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Shoigu dressed civilian personnel of the Ministry of Defense in military uniform

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Color Tanks and shift caps with "cabbage" became the "know-how" of the next generation of heads of the military department


They say that the weaker the army, the higher the crown on the caps, the more “cabbage” on the visors and the icons on the chest. Now our army, alas, is no longer as strong as in the old days. Technique in the troops mainly Soviet projects, the fleet does not depart far from the walls. But the uniform of our military never ceases to amaze the man in the street, as, indeed, the military itself. Either shoulder straps on the belly will be spiked, then premium slats on shirts. Not all officers liked the innovation, since on the shirts such strips look like a foreign body.

More recently, another form has appeared in the leadership of the Ministry of Defense. There are no ties in her that squeezed her neck, and her tunics, which hinder movement. According to the statement disguised, it is shorter, brighter. The uniform is designed for employees of command centers and administration departments, as stated in the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation, as an office suit that will be the same for military and civil servants and will replace the so-called everyday uniform - a woolen jacket with trousers and a shirt and tie.

Life will show whether the form will take root and whether it will be launched into a series. But now the number of “cabbage” on peaks and caps of forage caps raises questions: an obvious search. Literally the other day in the new form in public (at the training ground in Alabin) not only acting officers, generals of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation, but also, as they say, civilian deputy ministers appeared. For example, the deputy defense ministers Ruslan Tsalikov and Yuri Borisov are in uniform and with shoulder straps for Army General and Colonel-General respectively. Tsalikov, like some others, has a black color, which emphasized his status as a government official. But the most interesting thing is that, on an equal basis with men, S. Shoigu ordered a change of clothes for the so-called “women's battalion” of the Ministry of Defense, the remnants of which were still preserved within the walls of the military department. These ladies with lacquered nails and expensive perfume at Serdyukov disdainfully called the officers of the General Staff, as well as all military men, "green men." And now themselves, as they say, turned out, figuratively speaking, in their own skin. One of them has already complained that, they say, the form does not breathe, it is stuffy, and the material is rough.

In dressing up in a form, including women, there is, I think, a certain positive meaning - after all, it is somehow easier and more understandable to communicate with a person in uniform. You understand what rank and military rank he would roughly correspond to, being really in military service. Moreover, some people are very fit. For example, Deputy Defense Minister Tatiana Shevtsova (“Colonel-General”), Advisor to the Defense Minister Tatiana Zavyalova (“Lieutenant-General”). But on some ladies she sits, alas, baggy and not organic.

But the main thing, they say, is not the form, but the content. It is important that all this benefits the strengthening of defense capability, as well as the new image of the Armed Forces. By the way, as well as multi-colored tanks.
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  1. SmacXnumx
    SmacXnumx 19 August 2013 09: 39
    +5
    Now our army, alas, is not as strong as in the old days. The equipment in the troops is mainly Soviet projects, the fleet does not depart far from the walls.

    How not to depart? The author of the news does not read, the telly does not watch?
    1. Col.
      Col. 19 August 2013 09: 52
      17
      Quote: Smac111
      The author of the news does not read, the telly does not watch?

      Telly and news to order - this is for the layman. Talk to staff officers of the Navy - be very surprised! Window dressing is continuous on TV.
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 19 August 2013 10: 17
        +3
        Quote: Colonel
        Telly and news to order - this is for the layman

        Those. boat trips in the Mediterranean, to Cuba, to Nicaragua, the Panama Canal, this is an order for the layman. So you, my dear, to understand?
        And the fact that the fleet is full of problems, wait a bit. Here Putin and Shoigu will get there, take a mop, tear off the decks and put things in order.
        1. Col.
          Col. 19 August 2013 10: 43
          17
          Quote: Hedgehog
          Those. boat trips in the Mediterranean, to Cuba, to Nicaragua, the Panama Canal, this is an order for the layman. So you, my dear, to understand?

          Exactly, that "walks", it is you, my dear, just noticed. Compared to the normal practice of SYSTEMATIC combat service in the forward zones as part of the OPESK, these episodic "walks" of individual ships (the same ones, by the way!) Are pitiful attempts to pass off the wishful thinking. I served in the Navy (naval aviation) for 28 years, including in the "upper headquarters" and I have something to compare with the current state of the fleet.
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 19 August 2013 10: 45
          +1
          Quote: Hedgehog
          Those. boat trips in the Mediterranean, to Cuba, to Nicaragua, the Panama Canal, this is an order for the layman. So you, my dear, to understand?


          And without pathos? The fact that the ships fulfilled the tasks is yes, only their number in these exercises and the years of construction depress

          Mediterranean Sea exercises 2012

          Northern Fleet BOD Admiral Chabanenko, BDK Alexander Otrakovsky, Georgy Pobedonosets, and Kondopoga, support vessels Nikolai Chiker and Sergey Osipov

          From the Black Sea Fleet large landing craft "Nikolay Filchenkov" and "Caesar Kunikov", patrol ship "Smetlivy".
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 19 August 2013 14: 50
            +1
            Quote: Vadivak
            only their number in these exercises and years of construction depress

            Perestroika, Vadim, you yourself understand, for none of us has passed in vain. Everywhere she left her mark. Even in our souls.
        3. military
          military 19 August 2013 13: 48
          +4
          Quote: Hedgehog
          Here Putin and Shoigu will get there, take a mop, tear off the decks and put things in order.

          and what ... perhaps this couple would look nice ... in sailor robes ... repeat
          1. soldier's grandson
            soldier's grandson 19 August 2013 15: 41
            +3
            Peter 1 began with this
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 19 August 2013 15: 55
              +5
              Quote: Soldier's grandson
              Peter 1 began with this


              On a Dutch ship. But in the homeland was not. The whore his German empress became, it was.
              1. soldier's grandson
                soldier's grandson 19 August 2013 16: 03
                +2
                in the Netherlands he studied naval art, construction, and in Russia he was in the rank of scorer under the command of Pamburg, it seems a former pirate
                1. Vadivak
                  Vadivak 19 August 2013 16: 45
                  +4
                  Quote: Soldier's grandson
                  and in Russia he was in the rank of scorer under the command of Pamburg


                  He had a maritime rank - Schautbenacht, Peter Mikhailov, admiralty naval rank in the Netherlands, according to our major general.
                  1. Yuri Y.
                    Yuri Y. 19 August 2013 18: 06
                    +2
                    It makes no difference, the main thing is that we have a fleet. This is the greatness of Peter.
            2. Genur
              Genur 19 August 2013 21: 32
              0
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          2. bilgesez
            bilgesez 19 August 2013 21: 25
            +3
            Better in prison
        4. Volkhov
          Volkhov 19 August 2013 17: 55
          0
          Quote: Hedgehog
          to Cuba, to Nicaragua, the Panama Canal,

          If you listen - the cruiser Moscow came to Cuba, in Nicaragua ...
          If you look - in Cuba he was not in Nicaragua Varangian and he is in the Panama Canal in the opposite direction ...
          For the brain in front of the TV, you need a filter such as a tap, or else one dregs.
      2. Sandov
        Sandov 19 August 2013 12: 54
        +4
        We continue to destroy the remnants of former power. The cocksucker form is of course an indicator of our defense. But the planes began to fly and shoot the tanks, this is bread. The fact that in many ways window dressing is the cost of past years. I hope the current military will turn the tide for the better.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 19 August 2013 09: 53
      18
      Quote: ...
      Uniform ..... According to the disguised, she is brighter, brighter.


      Gift to the sniper.

      Quote: .....
      the uniform is even to face Tatyana Shevtsova (“Colonel General”), adviser to the Minister of Defense Tatyana Zavyalova (“Lieutenant General”).


      How well, heard. Women's regiment Serdyukov

      Tatyana Shevtsova Since 1991, she worked in the tax authorities. She moved from a tax inspector in the Central District of St. Petersburg to the head of the department of the largest taxpayers of the Ministry of Taxes and Duties of the Russian Federation.
      In May 2010, she was appointed Advisor to the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation.
      On August 6, 2010, by decree of the President of the Russian Federation, she was appointed Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation.
      Tatyana Zavyalova, adviser to the minister, is creating a media holding of the Ministry of Defense called Zvezda, which should include the Zvezda TV channel, the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper, the Voeninform agency and other core assets of the military department.

      Just why are they in the ranks? Which place?
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 19 August 2013 10: 10
        +1
        Quote: Vadivak
        Just why are they in the ranks? Which place?

        Perhaps this is still from the USSR, although not only from there. In the USSR, all senior officials, including enterprise directors, had ranks. In case of war, I guess.
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 19 August 2013 12: 26
          11
          "But why are they in the ranks? What place?"


          In general, there is some sort of wachcanalia with these undeserved ranks, epaulets, uniforms.
          As it began with the drunk Yeltsin distributing titles to just about anyone, so it still continues. For civilians, especially those who had never even worn the shoulder straps of rank-and-file officers, to cling to the shoulder straps of "colonel-generals" is an extraordinary action.
          Well, what about
          "In the USSR, all high-ranking leaders, including directors of enterprises, had titles."

          In the USSR, as part of the mobilization reserve, there were all those liable for military service, officers on seniority in the reserve, military training, and assigned assignments in the reserve were assigned regular military ranks, including depending on the civilian position. But this did not mean that a person with the rank of lieutenant could be assigned a general with the right to wear a military uniform.
          In the USSR, military ranks were not scattered, therefore they were valued, not like at the present time "operetta-parrot generals".
          1. vilenich
            vilenich 19 August 2013 12: 36
            11
            Quote: vladimirZ
            In general, there is some sort of wachcanalia with these undeserved ranks, epaulets, uniforms.

            I don’t understand what the author of the article admires and touches:
            In dressing up in a form, including women, there is, I think, a certain positive meaning - after all, it is somehow easier and more understandable to communicate with a person in uniform. You understand what rank and military rank he would roughly correspond to, being really in military service. Moreover, some people are very fit. For example, Deputy Defense Minister Tatiana Shevtsova (“Colonel-General”), Advisor to the Defense Minister Tatiana Zavyalova (“Lieutenant-General”). But on some ladies she sits, alas, baggy and not organic.

            As Brezhnev-Churbanov’s son-in-law criticized when he was from the police, having special. rank, transferred to internal troops with a promotion. And here the general epaulettes easily cling to civilians, except for annoyance and bewilderment, what other feelings this circus with mummers can cause!
          2. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 19 August 2013 14: 57
            +1
            Quote: vladimirZ
            handed out the ranks to anyone, it still continues. For civilians, especially not even wearing the epaulettes of ordinary officers before, cling epaulets

            Well, what can you do if, for example, the Tax Inspectorate and my nephews appeared with us, wearing uniforms corresponding to their rank of advisers, and if they are similar to the major or lieutenant colonel, we are not to blame.
            Quote: vladimirZ
            the assigned posts in the reserve were assigned regular military ranks

            As I remember right now, the director of our cool factory had the rank of colonel, and during the war he would immediately put on his uniform. Anyone who took his place, and this in my memory was 2 times, received this title.
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 19 August 2013 16: 50
          +9
          Quote: Hedgehog
          In the USSR, all senior officials, including company directors, had ranks.


          Not all. For this, it was necessary to finish at least the military department at the university. And not all directors and managers graduated from universities in person.
      2. Airman
        Airman 19 August 2013 10: 14
        20
        Quote: Vadivak
        .

        Just why are they in the ranks? Which place?

        Thus, it is evident that many of them were noted. As is customary with us: Vanka for attacking a bolt into .raka, Manka for ... do Red Star. How can you compare and equate a military general or colonel who went through the war, and these m .... lice? And who awarded them the title?
        1. military
          military 19 August 2013 13: 59
          +5
          Quote: Povshnik
          And who awarded them the title?

          Well, how is WHO? ... repeat of course, OH ... for us they are all "Buratin's", but for Pope Carlo - a support in old age ...
      3. ramzes1776
        ramzes1776 19 August 2013 10: 15
        15
        Quote: Vadivak
        For example, Deputy Minister of Defense Tatyana Shevtsova (“Colonel General”), Advisor to the Minister of Defense Tatyana Zavyalova (“Lieutenant General”).

        For what such merits did they receive such titles ??? And why then graduate from military institutes with academies, if you can get a general anyway. There is still a "hero's star" to give to each on March 8 !!! Creatures !!!
      4. svp67
        svp67 19 August 2013 10: 18
        +7
        Quote: Vadivak
        Just why are they in the ranks? Which place?
        Well, you have to show that they are "GENERAL". There has always been a lot of talk about the "fool" of the military, but I look at the "civilians" of this "fool" dozens of times more ... that not "barefoot" is already "general ..."
      5. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 19 August 2013 10: 28
        +5
        Quote: Vadivak
        Just why are they in the ranks? Which place?

        I suspect that they officially do not have military ranks, but civil service ranks, for example, "actual state adviser of the Russian Federation" or "class 2 assistant". Another thing is that the shoulder straps of civil servants, and they are dragged by the tax office, and the Federal Service for Supervision of Consumer Rights Protection and Human Welfare, and the Federal Service for Supervision of Natural Resource Usage and many others, do not look like army shoulder straps. And here they practically, one to one copy the army insignia. And in the photo, the lady in the foreground has no stars at all, or did it seem to me? With one gap, what is this title? Head captain?
      6. Tersky
        Tersky 19 August 2013 10: 34
        +8
        Quote: Vadivak
        Just why are they in the ranks? Which place?

        Vadim hi ! Well, for a place and not worth talking. Vasiliev will definitely enlighten that through him not only titles but also money as from a cornucopia. wink.
        1. Che
          Che 19 August 2013 19: 20
          +2
          Yes, as they say h..m this is not naraoesh. Outfit form down and get down to work. Its endless edge. Why not spin in front of a mirror like a little girl?
      7. Airman
        Airman 19 August 2013 10: 54
        +8
        I thought that the "harem" broke up Shoigu, and they are here. For what they are being held, for what "invaluable combat" experience?
        1. military
          military 19 August 2013 14: 05
          +6
          Quote: Povshnik
          I thought that the "harem" broke up Shoigu, and they are here. For what they are being held, for what "invaluable combat" experience?

          these are the same "Amazons" who later remember "... And I went through the whole war ... under the colonel ..."
      8. antiaircrafter
        antiaircrafter 19 August 2013 12: 57
        +3
        Quote: Vadivak
        Gift to the sniper.

        Duc form office. What are snipers?
        It’s only if the pizza delivery man didn’t miss!

        But the form of clothing is not good to break. What is a woman without a hat?
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 19 August 2013 16: 52
          +1
          Quote: antiaircrafter
          Duc form office. What are snipers?


          And what about the sniper on the roof is no longer relevant?
          1. antiaircrafter
            antiaircrafter 19 August 2013 20: 08
            0
            Quote: Vadivak
            And what about the sniper on the roof is no longer relevant?

            This is when the official sniper failed us?
      9. Sandov
        Sandov 19 August 2013 12: 57
        +6
        Just why are they in the ranks? Which place?

        Well, how not to please a dear little man.
        Puffer.
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 19 August 2013 11: 56
      +7
      Quote: Smac111
      Now our army, alas, is not as strong as in the old days.


      As I recall, these trucks, sewn to order, with a ten-centimeter tulle, I really want to cry. Although someone came up with the idea of ​​the complete idiocy of the headgear that prevented walking.
    4. bereg
      bereg 19 August 2013 13: 02
      +1
      the author and you I look at life offended!
  2. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 19 August 2013 09: 41
    +7
    I think that ministers (not only in the Moscow Region) were somehow carried away by various new forms of clothing .... this is an extremely costly affair. Do we not have more pressing costly articles ?? .... I am sure that there are .....
    1. Airman
      Airman 19 August 2013 10: 15
      15
      Quote: Grigorich 1962
      I think that ministers (not only in the Moscow Region) were somehow carried away by various new forms of clothing .... this is an extremely costly affair. Do we not have more pressing costly articles ?? .... I am sure that there are .....

      But there is no money for the MiG-35.
  3. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 19 August 2013 09: 41
    18
    the weaker the army, the higher the tops on the caps, the more “cabbage” on the visors and the badges on the chest. Accurately noticed .. all this is sad
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 19 August 2013 11: 04
      +6
      Quote: MIKHAN
      the weaker the army, the higher the tops on the caps, the more “cabbage” on the visors and the badges on the chest. Accurately noticed .. all this is sad


      Photo to confirm your comment:

      Illustrious pilot, Three times Hero of the Soviet Union A.I. Pokryshkin at the 1945 Victory Day parade as the Standard Bearer of the 1 th Ukrainian Front.

      The difference is "on the face" ...
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 19 August 2013 11: 08
        +9
        Quote: Corsair
        The difference is "on the face" ...


        Marshals Budenny and Zhukov
        1. military
          military 19 August 2013 14: 17
          +2
          Quote: Corsair
          Marshals Budenny and Zhukov

          good but ... still ... WILLNNOH ... drinks
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 20 August 2013 01: 14
            +1
            Quote: military
            but ... nevertheless ... WAKE-UP


            I'm sorry, " оЧenЯweaving" recourse
  4. Ruslandeth
    Ruslandeth 19 August 2013 09: 42
    +1
    the gimmick of cunning)
    1. Airman
      Airman 19 August 2013 10: 44
      +7
      Serdyukovshchina lives and flourishes in double color. And what can these "advisers and deputies" advise the MO? What is the best way to "cut" the loot?
  5. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 19 August 2013 09: 45
    14
    Well, as children, the word is right ... More than any baubles, brighter stripes, to show off all sorts ... And what's the point? It seems that they forgot in MO what the form exists for and what functions it should fulfill. This is not a suit for a promenade with a girl on the boulevard. This makes no sense. It’s as if there’s nowhere else to put money.
    1. Col.
      Col. 19 August 2013 10: 03
      13
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      Well, as children, the right word ...

      That's for sure. DAM, being President, played for the country for 4 years. These "leaders of the military department" are playing soldiers. Either they change footcloths for socks, or invent a tank biathlon ... Now, mummers are made from officers and employees of the RA. And why? Because they do not know WHAT and HOW should be done in order for the army to meet its main mission. Shoigu may be a good person, but a "good person" is not a profession! As the son of his longtime friend, Yeltsin in 1992 promoted him straight from the senior reserve to major general! For what merits? Even during the war, the most outstanding commanders never dreamed of such wild growth. These "wild-growing" "specialists" are now in charge of everything: from the state to kindergarten ...
      1. creak
        creak 19 August 2013 10: 13
        +6
        The quieter the success, the louder the timpani ...
      2. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 19 August 2013 11: 55
        +2
        A tank biathlon than you did not please? It seems to me a very useful thing to practice shooting at speed and accuracy. In a real battle they will not let you calmly smoke while aiming for 10 minutes. In addition, according to crew reviews, such competitions are very good for working out interaction in the crew.
        1. Col.
          Col. 19 August 2013 12: 36
          15
          Quote: Stroibat stock
          A tank biathlon than you did not please? It seems to me a very useful thing to practice shooting at speed and accuracy.

          This "biathlon", which is now enthusiastically promoted as Shoigu's know-how, has always been an ordinary exercise from the KBP (combat training course). Recently, we have increasingly turned serious things into a show for the public. Hence the attitude to these things is appropriate.
          1. military
            military 19 August 2013 14: 23
            +3
            Quote: Colonel
            This "biathlon", which is now enthusiastically promoted as Shoigu's know-how, has always been an ordinary exercise from the KBP (combat training course).

            well how ... repeat the hippopotamus was seen many times ... and here they are excited to look at the living hippo ... winked Well, how not to look? ...
      3. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 19 August 2013 13: 17
        +6
        Quote: Colonel
        These "heads of the military department" are playing soldiers. They change footcloths for socks, or invent a tank biathlon ... Now, mummers are made from officers and employees of the RA.
        good
        And also, at the end of the year, we will listen to high assurances that showers are in all parts.
        Let's listen and ... "believe" laughing

        PS Above the "beautiful", glamorous dances, not these "worked" ...
    2. Che
      Che 19 August 2013 19: 24
      +1
      The right word as a demobilization went home. Well, the level. Everything can be forgiven - if only the defense was strong. I hope there is success in this. It’s like going to the sea, and flying and shooting.
  6. user
    user 19 August 2013 09: 46
    +5
    They say that the weaker the army, the higher the tops on the caps, the more “cabbage” on the visors and badges on the chest.
    There are no ties that squeezed the neck, and tunics, fettering movement.

    Sometimes you look at our generals, and nothing is fastened to them on the belly
  7. svp67
    svp67 19 August 2013 09: 50
    +6
    Simply already - "NO WORDS ..." It seems that soon we ourselves will start to get confused seeing a man in "type of military uniform", who is he? Soldier? If yes, which army. Or maybe it's just a man in clothes "a, la military ...". It would be better to think about a comfortable and beautiful uniform for ordinary soldiers and officers, and the staff ones will not be lost anyway ...
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 20 August 2013 01: 58
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Simply already - "NO WORDS ..." It seems that soon we ourselves will start to get confused seeing a man in "type of military uniform", who is he? Soldier? If yes, which army.


      As for my "color and taste" the North Koreans have a form and even less pretentious ...

      The official portrait of former DPRK leader Kim Jong Il in the form of the commander in chief of the DPRK army.

      Clickable Image:
  8. kotdavin4i
    kotdavin4i 19 August 2013 09: 51
    +3
    Yes, even if they go in gas masks, if only they would not plunder the funds allocated for soldiers, equipment, and training. Have a nice day everyone.
    1. military
      military 19 August 2013 14: 29
      +1
      Quote: kotdavin4i
      if only they would not plunder the funds allocated to soldiers, equipment, and training.

      this is more difficult ...
      "Habit strength is very great
      And sometimes it commands us ...
      Another in a cafe is a bottle of milk
      From under the floor he pours into glasses ... "
  9. Tersky
    Tersky 19 August 2013 09: 52
    19
    But the main thing, they say, is not the form, but the content. It is important that all this benefits the strengthening of defense capability, as well as the new image of the Armed Forces. By the way, as well as multi-colored tanks. Cinema, damn it .. .., in the Armed Forces of Russia there are no more unsolved problems except for what else squiggle to the form to sprinkle. All these dances with the form resemble a girl spinning by the mirror, who has nothing to eat in the house. What is bothering that is ready, it remains only to shake the "content" out of it ..
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 19 August 2013 10: 02
      +6
      Quote: Tersky
      the main thing, they say, is not form, but content

      From the photo you can see from the distance that in the center of the frame is a rooster!
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 19 August 2013 10: 19
        +6
        Greetings, Eugene !!! Now it’s fashionable to call the representatives of the chicken coop representatives of the gay community. The poor physicist Gay (remember the Gay-Lussac law from the physics course?), I suppose he would turn over in a coffin. I would know that he would name the dregs of society.
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 19 August 2013 10: 32
          +3
          Quote: xetai9977
          Poor Physicist Gay

          Hello Rauf. He probably doesn't just roll over. Spinning, poor fellow, Gay-Lussac. A normal person with that first name and surname would have committed suicide, unhappy at the age of 12.
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 19 August 2013 10: 14
      10
      Victor, good day to you! ”He laughed for a long time, looking at the Colonel General of the beast! laughing laughing laughing
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 19 August 2013 10: 40
        +4
        Quote: xetai9977
        Victor, good day to you!

        And good to you, Rauf!
      2. svp67
        svp67 19 August 2013 19: 56
        0
        Quote: xetai9977
        Victor, good day to you! ”He laughed for a long time, looking at the Colonel General of the beast! laughing laughing laughing
        Actually, he "mows" under the Admiral ...
    3. Sandov
      Sandov 19 August 2013 13: 06
      +5
      wassat It is something. Pederglavkom?
  10. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 19 August 2013 10: 00
    11
    One of them has already complained that, they say, the form does not breathe, it is stuffy in it, and the material is rough.

    More authentic slits on the skirt, front, back and sides. Deeper neckline both in front and on the back, up to the waist and everything will be "OK".
    Dear ladies, you need to wash more often, and not to air! good
    1. Airman
      Airman 19 August 2013 10: 22
      +9
      [quote = Hedgehog] [quote]
      Dear ladies, you need to wash more often, and not to air! good[/ Quote]
      To wash away after "meetings".
    2. military
      military 19 August 2013 14: 34
      0
      Quote: Hedgehog
      Dear ladies, you need to wash more often, and not to air!

      laughing good + + + + + +
  11. Naval
    Naval 19 August 2013 10: 00
    +5
    Yes, with the "cabbage" on their caps, they clearly went too far, but they mastered and sawed up some part of the budget money, but for now
    Former Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov safely avoided the first opportunity to become a defendant in a criminal case.

    It seems corruption in Russia is immortal
    A source close to the investigation into the multi-volume case of corruption in the Ministry of Defense said that the prospects for bringing Anatoly Serdyukov to criminal responsibility remain very vague.
  12. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 19 August 2013 10: 00
    -5
    Now our army, alas, is not as strong as in the old days. The equipment in the troops is mainly Soviet projects, the fleet does not depart far from the walls. - what kind of mud..k wrote? further reading uninteresting
  13. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 19 August 2013 10: 06
    +5
    I don’t understand in any way what title does an aunt have without a headdress and glamorous glasses? I see a clearance on the chase, but there are no stars. Everything, a dead end ... has begun to boil. fool Or is she the captain of the imperial army? Well preserved.
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 19 August 2013 10: 23
      +5
      Ilya, her face would have been nicer, but they would find a rank or calling, a career was provided to her good
    2. Airman
      Airman 19 August 2013 11: 06
      +6
      Quote: Dr. Evil
      I don’t understand in any way what title does an aunt have without a headdress and glamorous glasses? I see a clearance on the chase, but there are no stars. Everything, a dead end ... has begun to boil. fool Or is she the captain of the imperial army? Well preserved.

      Joke. QUESTION. Can a woman be a lieutenant colonel?
      ANSWER. Maybe not only under the colonel, but also under the general.
  14. 128mgb
    128mgb 19 August 2013 10: 08
    -5
    Why not? The form disciplines all the same. As for the "ryushechek", I remember in Soviet times everyone complained that the uniform was gray, monotonous. Now they complain that she is too flashy? And what kind of sniper could be in the parade? Or in an emergency zone?
  15. Waroc
    Waroc 19 August 2013 10: 11
    +4
    No words, some mats in the language. Damn, well, really again (((
  16. Regis
    Regis 19 August 2013 10: 15
    +5
    Well, as I understand it, there will be no more ugly Grachev cap-aerodromes. This is already good. But of course they went too far with gold, like gypsies, by golly))
  17. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 19 August 2013 10: 22
    11
    By God, just noticed about the "cabbage" .... I saw them as a crowd in Alabino, immediately went associations with some kind of African, South American dictatorships ... "Kings and Cabbage" ...

    I believe that the cut, composition, materials of the form should be changed, and insignia and other "tuning" should be left from the Soviet period. Clearly, specifically, correctly. At that time, they were not thinking about gypsy tricks, but about fighting efficiency. We have such a time has come again, it already supports!
    1. Col.
      Col. 19 August 2013 10: 51
      +2
      Quote: Silkway0026
      By God, just noticed about the "cabbage" ....

      Yes, it is not noticed. For example, sailors have always called cabbage or "oaks" overlaid elements on the peak of a cap in the form of branches with leaves.
  18. Hey
    Hey 19 August 2013 10: 53
    +1
    I'm for it. Form brings up.
    Take the Soviet era. At school, the uniform is still on the last call of the girl, the Soviet school uniform with a white apron is being worn, the vocational schools were all in uniform, the railway, aviation, remember Aeroflot stewardes. Even in the same restaurant, the waitresses had their own uniforms.
    Many mumble. Take the story of someone grumbling that budenovki gone, someone grumbling that shoulder straps returned, etc. etc. It was and will be. Normal process
    1. svp67
      svp67 19 August 2013 20: 00
      +2
      Quote: MUD
      I'm for it. Form brings up.

      One more moment is somehow missed. There are a lot of civilian personnel in the Ministry of Defense, especially on the ground in the outback, in the same military commissaries. Their salaries are far from being generals, and I know that many would be happy to receive from the Ministry of Defense the opportunity to get uniform or better office clothes ... In everything, you need to approach everything with your head and without "unnecessary fanaticism", otherwise in this case, judging by the photo he is clearly present ...
  19. zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 19 August 2013 11: 01
    +8
    Dear colleagues, I have the opinion that the RA leadership is simply jealous of Dembely's youthful daring (lately there is an impression on the trains that he was at a masquerade). As our demobels go home like COCKS (another name can only be the Mabutu military), veterans are already starting to shake There is an old anegdote: a daddy and a punk rides a tram, the daddy keeps looking at the punk - that my grandfather has pinned it, no sonny, I served in the navy in my youth and somehow in Cuba, having drunk rum with a parrot, I slept here and I'm guessing maybe you are my heir.
  20. maxvik
    maxvik 19 August 2013 11: 24
    +3
    Over the past 20 years I have been in shape 4-5 times.
    I think replacing a form is a way to make money.
    Otherwise, why?
  21. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 19 August 2013 11: 43
    14
    The lady in black has a negative rating, as many as four skulls on uniform. Our Minister of Defense turns the Armed Forces into the Ministry of Emergencies, only green, if you look at the new form. Apparently, he is so familiar and sweeter. And the generals, in my opinion, do not look pathetic enough. I propose to introduce camouflaged cocked hat with gold embroidery for them, epaulettes, sabers on the tape over the shoulder and certainly spurs. Adjutants of their excellencies will certainly be given out. Then the seamstress will die of envy, and everyone else will be imbued with power lol
  22. Navuxonastupil
    Navuxonastupil 19 August 2013 11: 53
    +3
    Jackets with t-shirts are probably convenient, but it painfully looks like a hybrid of Chinese and Vietnamese forms, and caps in general smell like Latinos ... lol
  23. awg75
    awg75 19 August 2013 13: 44
    +5
    to each shmara with a big lip on an asterisk ... somewhere I already saw it
  24. Michael_59
    Michael_59 19 August 2013 17: 43
    -1
    Quote: Povshnik
    To wash away after "meetings".

    Did you now demonstrate your best masculine qualities?
  25. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 19 August 2013 18: 00
    +2
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  26. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 19 August 2013 18: 44
    +2
    You guys forgot that there is a field and front door. Although the high tulas are annoying, I agree.
  27. bilgesez
    bilgesez 19 August 2013 21: 28
    +2
    Licked form with Latin American dictators. Parrots right word. This is the ceiling of Minister of Defense Shoigu.
  28. tixon444
    tixon444 19 August 2013 21: 53
    +2
    Someone has a cap, and someone has a wallet.
  29. Nayhas
    Nayhas 19 August 2013 22: 03
    +2
    It seems that Russian generals are envious of Russian demobilization, there are clearly not enough accelerants!
  30. Egen
    Egen 20 August 2013 06: 58
    +1
    To the right in black is Shevtsova ?! Mmm, good photo love :) And then on the official woman in 40 with a ponytail of everything, it looks not so hot :(
    Only I did not understand about shoulder straps. She’s an economist, is this the epaulettes of new economic troops? :) Damn, but I ... stupid :) for some reason, at first I thought of rising to the rank of army to become a general, I’ve only been working in economics for the last 20 years, but I had to, it means, right away, I would have been a marshal :( :))
  31. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 20 August 2013 17: 10
    +2
    That's really funny, sorry, I don’t want to offend anyone, that seriously there are people who believe that these are the truth that walks for the adversary. Well, no, dear adversary, he probably does not even pay attention to this already. This is for us for our TV so that we can see how much the fleet is being made again at sea. This is the first few years, you can nod your head back and when you’re 15 years in power, then people need to show results, otherwise people will start to think of something good, and the remnants of former power go along the seas and oceans and the truth is the same.
    Oh yeah, forget to write to me as an example how the entire 6th fleet saw (here already without irony but seriously) some of our actually heroic troughs and fled from the Mediterranean already into the Atlantic, so apparently scared so much. About this with such solemnity broadcast the first channel.
  32. Furnace driver
    Furnace driver 20 August 2013 19: 50
    +1
    the shape somewhat resembles the NATO form ... unification, albeit with slight deviations, the colors are not the same, but basically the trend is present.
  33. MOSKVITYANIN
    MOSKVITYANIN 28 January 2018 00: 49
    0

    In dressing up in uniform, including women, there is, it seems, a certain positive meaning - after all, it is somehow easier and more understandable to communicate with a person in uniform. You understand what rank and military rank he would roughly correspond to, being actually in military service.

    "DMB" was remembered about the subordination and length of service ....
    In general, the article is anti-Soviet ...
    the fleet does not depart far from the walls.

    According to the "zombie box" they said that more than 70 ships of the Russian Navy celebrated a new year at sea ...
    http://www.garnizon13.ru/news/x12156913x.html
  34. Note 2
    Note 2 23 October 2018 02: 15
    0
    And the attempts are pathetic and the exercises are ostentatious. On May 9, our warriors left for the BMD and BMP parade of 82-84 years of manufacture, oil poured from all the cracks, the chassis is skewed, the wires hang without metal hoses. And against this background are 4 brand new Iskander. Yes, and even rags new only when interviewing warriors complain about the quality of this rag.