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Shoigu dressed civilian personnel of the Ministry of Defense in military uniform

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Color Tanks and shift caps with "cabbage" became the "know-how" of the next generation of heads of the military department


They say that the weaker the army, the higher the crown on the caps, the more “cabbage” on the visors and the icons on the chest. Now our army, alas, is no longer as strong as in the old days. Technique in the troops mainly Soviet projects, the fleet does not depart far from the walls. But the uniform of our military never ceases to amaze the man in the street, as, indeed, the military itself. Either shoulder straps on the belly will be spiked, then premium slats on shirts. Not all officers liked the innovation, since on the shirts such strips look like a foreign body.

More recently, another form has appeared in the leadership of the Ministry of Defense. There are no ties in her that squeezed her neck, and her tunics, which hinder movement. According to the statement disguised, it is shorter, brighter. The uniform is designed for employees of command centers and administration departments, as stated in the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation, as an office suit that will be the same for military and civil servants and will replace the so-called everyday uniform - a woolen jacket with trousers and a shirt and tie.

Life will show whether the form will take root and whether it will be launched into a series. But now the number of “cabbage” on peaks and caps of forage caps raises questions: an obvious search. Literally the other day in the new form in public (at the training ground in Alabin) not only acting officers, generals of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation, but also, as they say, civilian deputy ministers appeared. For example, the deputy defense ministers Ruslan Tsalikov and Yuri Borisov are in uniform and with shoulder straps for Army General and Colonel-General respectively. Tsalikov, like some others, has a black color, which emphasized his status as a government official. But the most interesting thing is that, on an equal basis with men, S. Shoigu ordered a change of clothes for the so-called “women's battalion” of the Ministry of Defense, the remnants of which were still preserved within the walls of the military department. These ladies with lacquered nails and expensive perfume at Serdyukov disdainfully called the officers of the General Staff, as well as all military men, "green men." And now themselves, as they say, turned out, figuratively speaking, in their own skin. One of them has already complained that, they say, the form does not breathe, it is stuffy, and the material is rough.

In dressing up in a form, including women, there is, I think, a certain positive meaning - after all, it is somehow easier and more understandable to communicate with a person in uniform. You understand what rank and military rank he would roughly correspond to, being really in military service. Moreover, some people are very fit. For example, Deputy Defense Minister Tatiana Shevtsova (“Colonel-General”), Advisor to the Defense Minister Tatiana Zavyalova (“Lieutenant-General”). But on some ladies she sits, alas, baggy and not organic.

But the main thing, they say, is not the form, but the content. It is important that all this benefits the strengthening of defense capability, as well as the new image of the Armed Forces. By the way, as well as multi-colored tanks.
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  1. SmacXnumx
    SmacXnumx 19 August 2013 09: 39 New
    +5
    Now our army, alas, is not as strong as in the old days. The equipment in the troops is mainly Soviet projects, the fleet does not depart far from the walls.

    How not to depart? The author of the news does not read, the telly does not watch?
    1. Col.
      Col. 19 August 2013 09: 52 New
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      Quote: Smac111
      The author of the news does not read, the telly does not watch?

      Telly and news to order - this is for the layman. Talk to staff officers of the Navy - be very surprised! Window dressing is continuous on TV.
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 19 August 2013 10: 17 New
        +3
        Quote: Colonel
        Telly and news to order - this is for the layman

        Those. boat trips in the Mediterranean, to Cuba, to Nicaragua, the Panama Canal, this is an order for the layman. So you, my dear, to understand?
        And the fact that the fleet is full of problems, wait a bit. Here Putin and Shoigu will get there, take a mop, tear off the decks and put things in order.
        1. Col.
          Col. 19 August 2013 10: 43 New
          17
          Quote: Hedgehog
          Those. boat trips in the Mediterranean, to Cuba, to Nicaragua, the Panama Canal, this is an order for the layman. So you, my dear, to understand?

          Вот именно, что "прогулки", это Вы, милейший, точно подметили. По сравнению с нормальной практикой СИСТЕМАТИЧЕСКОЙ боевой службы в передовых зонах в составе ОПЭСК эти эпизодические "прогулки" отдельных кораблей (одних и тех же, кстати!) - жалкие потуги выдать желаемое за действительное. Я 28 лет прослужил в ВМФ (морской авиации), в том числе в "верхних штабах" и мне есть с чем сравнивать нынешнее состояние флота.
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 19 August 2013 10: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: Hedgehog
          Those. boat trips in the Mediterranean, to Cuba, to Nicaragua, the Panama Canal, this is an order for the layman. So you, my dear, to understand?


          And without pathos? The fact that the ships fulfilled the tasks is yes, only their number in these exercises and the years of construction depress

          Mediterranean Sea exercises 2012

          Северный флот БПК "Адмирал Чабаненко", БДК "Александр Отраковский", "Георгий Победоносец", и "Кондопога", суда обеспечения "Николай Чикер" и "Сергей Осипов"

          От Черноморского флота БДК "Николай Фильченков" и "Цезарь Куников", сторожевой корабль "Сметливый".
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 19 August 2013 14: 50 New
            +1
            Quote: Vadivak
            only their number in these exercises and years of construction depress

            Perestroika, Vadim, you yourself understand, for none of us has passed in vain. Everywhere she left her mark. Even in our souls.
        3. military
          military 19 August 2013 13: 48 New
          +4
          Quote: Hedgehog
          Here Putin and Shoigu will get there, take a mop, tear off the decks and put things in order.

          and what ... perhaps this couple would look nice ... in sailor robes ... repeat
          1. soldier's grandson
            soldier's grandson 19 August 2013 15: 41 New
            +3
            Peter 1 began with this
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 19 August 2013 15: 55 New
              +5
              Quote: Soldier's grandson
              Peter 1 began with this


              On a Dutch ship. But in the homeland was not. The whore his German empress became, it was.
              1. soldier's grandson
                soldier's grandson 19 August 2013 16: 03 New
                +2
                in the Netherlands he studied naval art, construction, and in Russia he was in the rank of scorer under the command of Pamburg, it seems a former pirate
                1. Vadivak
                  Vadivak 19 August 2013 16: 45 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Soldier's grandson
                  and in Russia he was in the rank of scorer under the command of Pamburg


                  He had a maritime rank - Schautbenacht, Peter Mikhailov, admiralty naval rank in the Netherlands, according to our major general.
                  1. Yuri Y.
                    Yuri Y. 19 August 2013 18: 06 New
                    +2
                    It makes no difference, the main thing is that we have a fleet. This is the greatness of Peter.
            2. Genur
              Genur 19 August 2013 21: 32 New
              0
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          2. bilgesez
            bilgesez 19 August 2013 21: 25 New
            +3
            Better in prison
        4. Volkhov
          Volkhov 19 August 2013 17: 55 New
          0
          Quote: Hedgehog
          to Cuba, to Nicaragua, the Panama Canal,

          If you listen - the cruiser Moscow came to Cuba, in Nicaragua ...
          If you look - in Cuba he was not in Nicaragua Varangian and he is in the Panama Canal in the opposite direction ...
          For the brain in front of the TV, you need a filter such as a tap, or else one dregs.
      2. Sandov
        Sandov 19 August 2013 12: 54 New
        +4
        We continue to destroy the remnants of former power. The cocksucker form is of course an indicator of our defense. But the planes began to fly and shoot the tanks, this is bread. The fact that in many ways window dressing is the cost of past years. I hope the current military will turn the tide for the better.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 19 August 2013 09: 53 New
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      Quote: ...
      Uniform ..... According to the disguised, she is brighter, brighter.


      Gift to the sniper.

      Quote: .....
      the uniform is even to face Tatyana Shevtsova (“Colonel General”), adviser to the Minister of Defense Tatyana Zavyalova (“Lieutenant General”).


      How well, heard. Women's regiment Serdyukov

      Tatyana Shevtsova Since 1991, she worked in the tax authorities. She moved from a tax inspector in the Central District of St. Petersburg to the head of the department of the largest taxpayers of the Ministry of Taxes and Duties of the Russian Federation.
      In May 2010, she was appointed Advisor to the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation.
      On August 6, 2010, by decree of the President of the Russian Federation, she was appointed Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation.
      Татьяна Завьялова - советник министра, занимается созданием медиа-холдинга Минобороны под названием "Звезда", в который должны войти телеканал "Звезда", газета "Красная звезда", агентство "Военинформ" и другие профильные активы военного ведомства.

      Just why are they in the ranks? Which place?
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 19 August 2013 10: 10 New
        +1
        Quote: Vadivak
        Just why are they in the ranks? Which place?

        Perhaps this is still from the USSR, although not only from there. In the USSR, all senior officials, including enterprise directors, had ranks. In case of war, I guess.
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 19 August 2013 12: 26 New
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          "Только почему они в званиях? Каким местом?"


          In general, there is some sort of wachcanalia with these undeserved ranks, epaulets, uniforms.
          Как началось с алкаша Ельцина раздававшего звания кому попало, так до сих пор и продолжается. Гражданским лицам, тем более не носившим до этого даже погон рядовых офицеров, цеплять погоны "генерал-полковников", это из вон выходящие действия.
          Well, what about
          "В СССР все высокопоставленные руководители, включая директоров предприятий имели звания".

          In the USSR, as part of the mobilization reserve, there were all those liable for military service, officers on seniority in the reserve, military training, and assigned assignments in the reserve were assigned regular military ranks, including depending on the civilian position. But this did not mean that a person with the rank of lieutenant could be assigned a general with the right to wear a military uniform.
          В СССР воинскими званиями не разбрасывались, поэтому они и ценились, не то что в нынешнее время "опереточно-попугайчатых генералов".
          1. vilenich
            vilenich 19 August 2013 12: 36 New
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            Quote: vladimirZ
            In general, there is some sort of wachcanalia with these undeserved ranks, epaulets, uniforms.

            I don’t understand what the author of the article admires and touches:
            In dressing up in a form, including women, there is, I think, a certain positive meaning - after all, it is somehow easier and more understandable to communicate with a person in uniform. You understand what rank and military rank he would roughly correspond to, being really in military service. Moreover, some people are very fit. For example, Deputy Defense Minister Tatiana Shevtsova (“Colonel-General”), Advisor to the Defense Minister Tatiana Zavyalova (“Lieutenant-General”). But on some ladies she sits, alas, baggy and not organic.

            As Brezhnev-Churbanov’s son-in-law criticized when he was from the police, having special. rank, transferred to internal troops with a promotion. And here the general epaulettes easily cling to civilians, except for annoyance and bewilderment, what other feelings this circus with mummers can cause!
          2. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 19 August 2013 14: 57 New
            +1
            Quote: vladimirZ
            handed out the ranks to anyone, it still continues. For civilians, especially not even wearing the epaulettes of ordinary officers before, cling epaulets

            Well, what can you do if, for example, the Tax Inspectorate and my nephews appeared with us, wearing uniforms corresponding to their rank of advisers, and if they are similar to the major or lieutenant colonel, we are not to blame.
            Quote: vladimirZ
            the assigned posts in the reserve were assigned regular military ranks

            As I remember right now, the director of our cool factory had the rank of colonel, and during the war he would immediately put on his uniform. Anyone who took his place, and this in my memory was 2 times, received this title.
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 19 August 2013 16: 50 New
          +9
          Quote: Hedgehog
          In the USSR, all senior officials, including company directors, had ranks.


          Not all. For this, it was necessary to finish at least the military department at the university. And not all directors and managers graduated from universities in person.
      2. Airman
        Airman 19 August 2013 10: 14 New
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        Quote: Vadivak
        .

        Just why are they in the ranks? Which place?

        Thus, it is evident that many of them were noted. As is customary with us: Vanka for attacking a bolt into .raka, Manka for ... do Red Star. How can you compare and equate a military general or colonel who went through the war, and these m .... lice? And who awarded them the title?
        1. military
          military 19 August 2013 13: 59 New
          +5
          Quote: Povshnik
          And who awarded them the title?

          Well, how is WHO? ... repeat конечно, ОН... это для нас все они "буратины", а для папы Карло - опора в старости...
      3. ramzes1776
        ramzes1776 19 August 2013 10: 15 New
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        Quote: Vadivak
        For example, Deputy Minister of Defense Tatyana Shevtsova (“Colonel General”), Advisor to the Minister of Defense Tatyana Zavyalova (“Lieutenant General”).

        Это за какие такие заслуги они такие звания получили???А зачем тогда институты военные с академиями заканчивать,если и так генерала можно получить.Ещё осталось по "звезде героя" каждой вручить на 8 марта!!! Твари!!!
      4. svp67
        svp67 19 August 2013 10: 18 New
        +7
        Quote: Vadivak
        Just why are they in the ranks? Which place?
        Ну надо же показать, что они "ДЖЕНЕРАЛЬ". Много всегда было разговоров о "придури" военных, но смотрю у "гражданских" этой "придури" в десятки раз больше..., что не "босик", то уже "дженеральчик..."
      5. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 19 August 2013 10: 28 New
        +5
        Quote: Vadivak
        Just why are they in the ranks? Which place?

        Я подозреваю, что официально у них не армейские звания, а чины госслужбы, к примеру "действительный государственный советник РФ" или "референт 2 класса". Другое дело, что погоны госслужащих, а их таскают и налоговая, и роспотребнадзор, и росприроднадзор и многие другие, не похожи на погоны армейские. А здесь они практически, один в один копируют армейские знаки различия. А на фото у дамы на переднем плане вообще звезд нет или мне показалось? С одним просветом что это за звание? Штабс-капитан?
      6. Tersky
        Tersky 19 August 2013 10: 34 New
        +8
        Quote: Vadivak
        Just why are they in the ranks? Which place?

        Vadim hi ! Well, for a place and not worth talking. Vasiliev will definitely enlighten that through him not only titles but also money as from a cornucopia. wink.
        1. Che
          Che 19 August 2013 19: 20 New
          +2
          Yes, as they say h..m this is not naraoesh. Outfit form down and get down to work. Its endless edge. Why not spin in front of a mirror like a little girl?
      7. Airman
        Airman 19 August 2013 10: 54 New
        +8
        Я думал, что Шойгу "гарем" разогнал, а они здесь. За что их держат, за какой "бесценный боевой" опыт?
        1. military
          military 19 August 2013 14: 05 New
          +6
          Quote: Povshnik
          Я думал, что Шойгу "гарем" разогнал, а они здесь. За что их держат, за какой "бесценный боевой" опыт?

          это те самые "амазонки", что потом вспоминают "...А я всю войну прошла... под полковником..."
      8. antiaircrafter
        antiaircrafter 19 August 2013 12: 57 New
        +3
        Quote: Vadivak
        Gift to the sniper.

        Duc form office. What are snipers?
        It’s only if the pizza delivery man didn’t miss!

        But the form of clothing is not good to break. What is a woman without a hat?
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 19 August 2013 16: 52 New
          +1
          Quote: antiaircrafter
          Duc form office. What are snipers?


          And what about the sniper on the roof is no longer relevant?
          1. antiaircrafter
            antiaircrafter 19 August 2013 20: 08 New
            0
            Quote: Vadivak
            And what about the sniper on the roof is no longer relevant?

            This is when the official sniper failed us?
      9. Sandov
        Sandov 19 August 2013 12: 57 New
        +6
        Just why are they in the ranks? Which place?

        Well, how not to please a dear little man.
        Puffer.
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 19 August 2013 11: 56 New
      +7
      Quote: Smac111
      Now our army, alas, is not as strong as in the old days.


      As I recall, these trucks, sewn to order, with a ten-centimeter tulle, I really want to cry. Although someone came up with the idea of ​​the complete idiocy of the headgear that prevented walking.
    4. bereg
      bereg 19 August 2013 13: 02 New
      +1
      the author and you I look at life offended!
  2. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 19 August 2013 09: 41 New
    +7
    I think that ministers (not only in the Moscow Region) were somehow carried away by various new forms of clothing .... this is an extremely costly affair. Do we not have more pressing costly articles ?? .... I am sure that there are .....
    1. Airman
      Airman 19 August 2013 10: 15 New
      15
      Quote: Grigorich 1962
      I think that ministers (not only in the Moscow Region) were somehow carried away by various new forms of clothing .... this is an extremely costly affair. Do we not have more pressing costly articles ?? .... I am sure that there are .....

      But there is no money for the MiG-35.
  3. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 19 August 2013 09: 41 New
    18
    the weaker the army, the higher the tops on the caps, the more “cabbage” on the visors and the badges on the chest. Accurately noticed .. all this is sad
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 19 August 2013 11: 04 New
      +6
      Quote: MIKHAN
      the weaker the army, the higher the tops on the caps, the more “cabbage” on the visors and the badges on the chest. Accurately noticed .. all this is sad


      Photo to confirm your comment:

      Illustrious pilot, Three times Hero of the Soviet Union A.I. Pokryshkin at the 1945 Victory Day parade as the Standard Bearer of the 1 th Ukrainian Front.

      Разница - "на лицо"...
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 19 August 2013 11: 08 New
        +9
        Quote: Corsair
        Разница - "на лицо"...


        Marshals Budenny and Zhukov
        1. military
          military 19 August 2013 14: 17 New
          +2
          Quote: Corsair
          Marshals Budenny and Zhukov

          good but ... still ... WILLNNOH ... drinks
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 20 August 2013 01: 14 New
            +1
            Quote: military
            but ... nevertheless ... WAKE-UP


            Извиняюсь," оЧenЯweaving" recourse
  4. Ruslandeth
    Ruslandeth 19 August 2013 09: 42 New
    +1
    the gimmick of cunning)
    1. Airman
      Airman 19 August 2013 10: 44 New
      +7
      Сердюковщина живет и процветает махровым цветом. И что эти "советницы и замы" могут насоветовать МО? Как лучше "распилить" бабло?
  5. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 19 August 2013 09: 45 New
    14
    Well, as children, the word is right ... More than any baubles, brighter stripes, to show off all sorts ... And what's the point? It seems that they forgot in MO what the form exists for and what functions it should fulfill. This is not a suit for a promenade with a girl on the boulevard. This makes no sense. It’s as if there’s nowhere else to put money.
    1. Col.
      Col. 19 August 2013 10: 03 New
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      Quote: Stroibat stock
      Well, as children, the right word ...

      Это точно. ДАМ, будучи Президентом, 4 года играл в страну. Эти "руководители военного ведомства" играют в солдатиков. То портянки на носки меняют, то танковый биатлон придумают... Теперь ряженых делают из офицеров и служащих РА. А всё почему? Потому что не знают, ЧТО и КАК надо делать, чтобы армия отвечала своему главному предназначению. Шойгу, может быть, хороший человек, но "хороший человек" - это не профессия! Его, как сына своего давнего друга, Ельцин в 1992 году произвёл сразу из старлея запаса в генерал-майоры! За какие заслуги? Даже во время войны самым выдающимся полководцам и не снился такой дикий рост. Вот такие "дикорастущие" "специалисты" и руководят сейчас всем: от государства до детского сада...
      1. creak
        creak 19 August 2013 10: 13 New
        +6
        The quieter the success, the louder the timpani ...
      2. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 19 August 2013 11: 55 New
        +2
        A tank biathlon than you did not please? It seems to me a very useful thing to practice shooting at speed and accuracy. In a real battle they will not let you calmly smoke while aiming for 10 minutes. In addition, according to crew reviews, such competitions are very good for working out interaction in the crew.
        1. Col.
          Col. 19 August 2013 12: 36 New
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          Quote: Stroibat stock
          A tank biathlon than you did not please? It seems to me a very useful thing to practice shooting at speed and accuracy.

          Этот "биатлон", который сейчас взахлёб раскручивают как ноу-хау Шойгу, всегда был обычным упражнением из КБП (курс боевой подготовки). У нас в последнее время всё чаще серъёзные вещи превращают в шоу на потребу публике. Отсюда и отношение к этим вещам соответствующее.
          1. military
            military 19 August 2013 14: 23 New
            +3
            Quote: Colonel
            Этот "биатлон", который сейчас взахлёб раскручивают как ноу-хау Шойгу, всегда был обычным упражнением из КБП (курс боевой подготовки).

            well how ... repeat the hippopotamus was seen many times ... and here they are excited to look at the living hippo ... winked Well, how not to look? ...
      3. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 19 August 2013 13: 17 New
        +6
        Quote: Colonel
        Эти "руководители военного ведомства" играют в солдатиков. То портянки на носки меняют, то танковый биатлон придумают... Теперь ряженых делают из офицеров и служащих РА.
        good
        And also, at the end of the year, we will listen to high assurances that showers are in all parts.
        Послушаем и ... "поверим" laughing

        P.S. Над "красивыми", гламурными танчиками, "работали" не эти... (слова не подобрать), из "женского батальона", что с Хенеральскими погонами на фото?
    2. Che
      Che 19 August 2013 19: 24 New
      +1
      The right word as a demobilization went home. Well, the level. Everything can be forgiven - if only the defense was strong. I hope there is success in this. It’s like going to the sea, and flying and shooting.
  6. user
    user 19 August 2013 09: 46 New
    +5
    They say that the weaker the army, the higher the tops on the caps, the more “cabbage” on the visors and badges on the chest.
    There are no ties that squeezed the neck, and tunics, fettering movement.

    Sometimes you look at our generals, and nothing is fastened to them on the belly
  7. svp67
    svp67 19 August 2013 09: 50 New
    +6
    Просто уже - "НЕТ СЛОВ..." Похоже скоро сами начнем путаться увидав человека в "типа военной форме", он кто? Солдат? Если Да, то какой армии. А может это просто человек в одежде "а,ля милитари...". Лучше бы подумали об удобной и красивой форме для простых солдат и офицеров,а штабные и так не пропадут...
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 20 August 2013 01: 58 New
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Просто уже - "НЕТ СЛОВ..." Похоже скоро сами начнем путаться увидав человека в "типа военной форме", он кто? Солдат? Если Да, то какой армии.


      Как на мой "цвет и вкус" у северокорейцев форма и то менее пафосная...

      The official portrait of former DPRK leader Kim Jong Il in the form of the commander in chief of the DPRK army.

      Clickable Image:
  8. kotdavin4i
    kotdavin4i 19 August 2013 09: 51 New
    +3
    Yes, even if they go in gas masks, if only they would not plunder the funds allocated for soldiers, equipment, and training. Have a nice day everyone.
    1. military
      military 19 August 2013 14: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: kotdavin4i
      if only they would not plunder the funds allocated to soldiers, equipment, and training.

      this is more difficult ...
      "Привычки сила очень велика
      And sometimes it commands us ...
      Another in a cafe is a bottle of milk
      Из-под полы в стаканы разливает..."
  9. Tersky
    Tersky 19 August 2013 09: 52 New
    19
    But the main thing, they say, is not the form, but the content. It is important that all this benefits the strengthening of defense capability, as well as the new image of the Armed Forces. By the way, as well as multi-colored tanks. Кино, блин.. .., в ВС России больше нет нерешенных проблем кроме какую бы ещё загогулину к форме пришпандорить. Все эти танцы с формой напоминают девицу крутящаюся у зеркала у котороой в доме жрать нечего. Чего заморачиватся то , есть готовое, осталось только "содержание" из него вытряхнуть..
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 19 August 2013 10: 02 New
      +6
      Quote: Tersky
      the main thing, they say, is not form, but content

      From the photo you can see from the distance that in the center of the frame is a rooster!
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 19 August 2013 10: 19 New
        +6
        Greetings, Eugene !!! Now it’s fashionable to call the representatives of the chicken coop representatives of the gay community. The poor physicist Gay (remember the Gay-Lussac law from the physics course?), I suppose he would turn over in a coffin. I would know that he would name the dregs of society.
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 19 August 2013 10: 32 New
          +3
          Quote: xetai9977
          Poor Physicist Gay

          Hello Rauf. He probably doesn't just roll over. Spinning, poor fellow, Gay-Lussac. A normal person with that first name and surname would have committed suicide, unhappy at the age of 12.
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 19 August 2013 10: 14 New
      10
      Victor, good day to you! ”He laughed for a long time, looking at the Colonel General of the beast! laughing laughing laughing
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 19 August 2013 10: 40 New
        +4
        Quote: xetai9977
        Victor, good day to you!

        And good to you, Rauf!
      2. svp67
        svp67 19 August 2013 19: 56 New
        0
        Quote: xetai9977
        Victor, good day to you! ”He laughed for a long time, looking at the Colonel General of the beast! laughing laughing laughing
        Вообще то он под Адмирала "косит"...
    3. Sandov
      Sandov 19 August 2013 13: 06 New
      +5
      wassat It is something. Pederglavkom?
  10. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 19 August 2013 10: 00 New
    11
    One of them has already complained that, they say, the form does not breathe, it is stuffy in it, and the material is rough.

    Подлиннее разрезы на юбке, спереди, сзади и по бокам. Поглубже декольте как спереди, так и на спине, до пояса и всё будет "ОК".
    Dear ladies, you need to wash more often, and not to air! good
    1. Airman
      Airman 19 August 2013 10: 22 New
      +9
      [quote = Hedgehog] [quote]
      Dear ladies, you need to wash more often, and not to air! good[/ Quote]
      Подмываться после "заседаний".
    2. military
      military 19 August 2013 14: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Hedgehog
      Dear ladies, you need to wash more often, and not to air!

      laughing good + + + + + +
  11. Naval
    Naval 19 August 2013 10: 00 New
    +5
    Да, с "капустой" на фуражках они явно переборщили, но зато освоили и распилили еще какую то часть бюджетных денег, а пока
    Former Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov safely avoided the first opportunity to become a defendant in a criminal case.

    It seems corruption in Russia is immortal
    A source close to the investigation into the multi-volume case of corruption in the Ministry of Defense said that the prospects for bringing Anatoly Serdyukov to criminal responsibility remain very vague.
  12. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 19 August 2013 10: 00 New
    -5
    Now our army, alas, is not as strong as in the old days. The equipment in the troops is mainly Soviet projects, the fleet does not depart far from the walls. - what kind of mud..k wrote? further reading uninteresting
  13. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 19 August 2013 10: 06 New
    +5
    I don’t understand in any way what title does an aunt have without a headdress and glamorous glasses? I see a clearance on the chase, but there are no stars. Everything, a dead end ... has begun to boil. fool Or is she the captain of the imperial army? Well preserved.
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 19 August 2013 10: 23 New
      +5
      Ilya, her face would have been nicer, but they would find a rank or calling, a career was provided to her good
    2. Airman
      Airman 19 August 2013 11: 06 New
      +6
      Quote: Dr. Evil
      I don’t understand in any way what title does an aunt have without a headdress and glamorous glasses? I see a clearance on the chase, but there are no stars. Everything, a dead end ... has begun to boil. fool Or is she the captain of the imperial army? Well preserved.

      Joke. QUESTION. Can a woman be a lieutenant colonel?
      ANSWER. Maybe not only under the colonel, but also under the general.
  14. 128mgb
    128mgb 19 August 2013 10: 08 New
    -5
    А почему бы и нет? Форма дисциплинирует всё таки. Насчёт "рюшечек" помню в Советское время все жаловались что форма серая, однообразная. Теперь жалуются что она слишком броская? И какие могут быть снайпера на параде? Или в зоне ЧП?
  15. Waroc
    Waroc 19 August 2013 10: 11 New
    +4
    No words, some mats in the language. Damn, well, really again (((
  16. Regis
    Regis 19 August 2013 10: 15 New
    +5
    Well, as I understand it, there will be no more ugly Grachev cap-aerodromes. This is already good. But of course they went too far with gold, like gypsies, by golly))
  17. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 19 August 2013 10: 22 New
    11
    ей Богу, точно подмечено по поводу "капусты".... я их как увидел толпой в Алабино, сразу пошли ассоциации с какими то африканскими, южно-американскими диктатурами... "Короли и капуста"...

    Считаю, что покрой, состав , материалы формы следует менять, а знаки отличия и прочий "тюнинг" следовало бы оставить от советского периода. Четко, конкретно, корректно. В то время думали не о финтифлюшках цыганских а о боеспособности. У нас такое время настало вновь, аж подпирает !
    1. Col.
      Col. 19 August 2013 10: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: Silkway0026
      ей Богу, точно подмечено по поводу "капусты"....

      Да не подмечено это. Например,моряки, всегда называли капустой или "дубами" накладные элементы на козырёк фуражки в форме веток с листьями.
  18. Hey
    Hey 19 August 2013 10: 53 New
    +1
    I'm for it. Form brings up.
    Возмите советские времена. В школе форма, до сих пор на последний звонок девченки советскую школьную форму с белым фартуком одевают, ремесленные училища все в форме были, железная дорога, авиация вспомните стюардес "Аэрофлота". Даже в том же ресторане официантки свою форму имели.
    Many mumble. Take the story of someone grumbling that budenovki gone, someone grumbling that shoulder straps returned, etc. etc. It was and will be. Normal process
    1. svp67
      svp67 19 August 2013 20: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: MUD
      I'm for it. Form brings up.

      Как то упускается еще один момент. В МО очень много гражданского персонала, особенно на местах в глубинке,в тех же воекоматах. зарплаты у них далеко не генеральские,и знаю,что многие бы были рады получить от МО возможность получить форменную или лучше офисную одежду... Во всем надо подходить с головой и без "лишнего фанатизма", а то в данном случае,судя по фото он явно присутствует...
  19. zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 19 August 2013 11: 01 New
    +8
    уважаемые коллеги у меня сложилось мнение что руководство РА просто завидует молодежной лихости Дембелей (последнее время в поездах складывается впечетление что попал на маскарад).Как наши дембеля едут домой как ПЕТУХИ(другое название может быть только воиска Мабуту)ветеранов аж трясти начинает ,так и "господа"хенералы тудаже.Есть старый анегдот :едет в трамвае дедок и панк ,дедок все на панка посматривает - что дед мой хаер прикалол-да нет сынок ,я в юности на флоте служил и как то на Кубе перепив рому с попугаем переспал вот и прикидываю может ты и есть мой наследник.
  20. maxvik
    maxvik 19 August 2013 11: 24 New
    +3
    Over the past 20 years I have been in shape 4-5 times.
    I think replacing a form is a way to make money.
    Otherwise, why?
  21. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 19 August 2013 11: 43 New
    14
    The lady in black has a negative rating, as many as four skulls on uniform. Our Minister of Defense turns the Armed Forces into the Ministry of Emergencies, only green, if you look at the new form. Apparently, he is so familiar and sweeter. And the generals, in my opinion, do not look pathetic enough. I propose to introduce camouflaged cocked hat with gold embroidery for them, epaulettes, sabers on the tape over the shoulder and certainly spurs. Adjutants of their excellencies will certainly be given out. Then the seamstress will die of envy, and everyone else will be imbued with power lol
  22. Navuxonastupil
    Navuxonastupil 19 August 2013 11: 53 New
    +3
    Jackets with t-shirts are probably convenient, but it painfully looks like a hybrid of Chinese and Vietnamese forms, and caps in general smell like Latinos ... lol
  23. awg75
    awg75 19 August 2013 13: 44 New
    +5
    to each shmara with a big lip on an asterisk ... somewhere I already saw it
  24. Michael_59
    Michael_59 19 August 2013 17: 43 New
    -1
    Quote: Povshnik
    Подмываться после "заседаний".

    Did you now demonstrate your best masculine qualities?
  25. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 19 August 2013 18: 00 New
    +2
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  26. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 19 August 2013 18: 44 New
    +2
    You guys forgot that there is a field and front door. Although the high tulas are annoying, I agree.
  27. bilgesez
    bilgesez 19 August 2013 21: 28 New
    +2
    Licked form with Latin American dictators. Parrots right word. This is the ceiling of Minister of Defense Shoigu.
  28. tixon444
    tixon444 19 August 2013 21: 53 New
    +2
    Someone has a cap, and someone has a wallet.
  29. Nayhas
    Nayhas 19 August 2013 22: 03 New
    +2
    It seems that Russian generals are envious of Russian demobilization, there are clearly not enough accelerants!
  30. Egen
    Egen 20 August 2013 06: 58 New
    +1
    To the right in black is Shevtsova ?! Mmm, good photo love :) And then on the official woman in 40 with a ponytail of everything, it looks not so hot :(
    Only I did not understand about shoulder straps. She’s an economist, is this the epaulettes of new economic troops? :) Damn, but I ... stupid :) for some reason, at first I thought of rising to the rank of army to become a general, I’ve only been working in economics for the last 20 years, but I had to, it means, right away, I would have been a marshal :( :))
  31. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 20 August 2013 17: 10 New
    +2
    That's really funny, sorry, I don’t want to offend anyone, that seriously there are people who believe that these are the truth that walks for the adversary. Well, no, dear adversary, he probably does not even pay attention to this already. This is for us for our TV so that we can see how much the fleet is being made again at sea. This is the first few years, you can nod your head back and when you’re 15 years in power, then people need to show results, otherwise people will start to think of something good, and the remnants of former power go along the seas and oceans and the truth is the same.
    Oh yeah, forget to write to me as an example how the entire 6th fleet saw (here already without irony but seriously) some of our actually heroic troughs and fled from the Mediterranean already into the Atlantic, so apparently scared so much. About this with such solemnity broadcast the first channel.
  32. Furnace driver
    Furnace driver 20 August 2013 19: 50 New
    +1
    the shape somewhat resembles the NATO form ... unification, albeit with slight deviations, the colors are not the same, but basically the trend is present.
  33. MOSKVITYANIN
    MOSKVITYANIN 28 January 2018 00: 49 New
    0

    In dressing up in uniform, including women, there is, it seems, a certain positive meaning - after all, it is somehow easier and more understandable to communicate with a person in uniform. You understand what rank and military rank he would roughly correspond to, being actually in military service.

    "DMB" was remembered about the subordination and length of service ....
    In general, the article is anti-Soviet ...
    the fleet does not depart far from the walls.

    According to the "zombie box" they said that more than 70 ships of the Russian Navy celebrated a new year at sea ...
    http://www.garnizon13.ru/news/x12156913x.html
  34. Note 2
    Note 2 23 October 2018 02: 15 New
    0
    And the attempts are pathetic and the exercises are ostentatious. On May 9, our warriors left for the BMD and BMP parade of 82-84 years of manufacture, oil poured from all the cracks, the chassis is skewed, the wires hang without metal hoses. And against this background are 4 brand new Iskander. Yes, and even rags new only when interviewing warriors complain about the quality of this rag.