Russian military police: first photos

He was at the opening of the tank biathlon in Alabino, where he first saw officers and soldiers of the Russian military police. Actually, this is the first event, the protection of which was provided by the Main Directorate of Military Police of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

PS Some thoughts about what he saw:

1. Chest badges for VP must be ordered at the Moscow Mint - it will be much more solid and more impressive.
2. Not weapons and special equipment. VP officers should be with pistols, privates and sergeants of VP - with PP-2000 + stun guns (to pacify "dzhigits" who show malicious insubordination).
3. Green takes - not the color. It should be black.
4. Portable communications should be available to all military police.
5. Transport for VP - you need to "Lynx" (IVECO) in the coloring of VP + machine gun (useful for the detention of armed deserters).

Comments

[Ruslandeth]

Green beret is not the right color. Must black

Black is all the more wrong. Marines are not respected. Here is gray - it’s the very thing that it doesn’t take even better, but a green cap, such as that of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

PS: and the guys have some kind faces

[Hleb]

Yes, black has long been worn by anyone. And in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and infantrymen today you can often meet. They say the tankers have or were. They need yellow, so that you can see like a blinker))

[def89]

takes black, and the lining is different.

[Vened]

Is it conscripts?

[Hleb]

the photo also shows that officers and contractors (although they are somehow strange)

[klimpopov]

Half are not shaved. And I agree strange ...

[KazaK Bo]

It is high time! Only the VP will work as intended, when our "military leaders" understand that such a contingent is sometimes called up into the army and navy that they do not want to take them to prison. It's time for them, the leaders, to hand over their checkers to the museum! Therefore, it is necessary to stop counting "sticks and similar designations" of crimes and violations, and on this basis, "MORDOVATE" commanders of all levels. Then they will contact the VP. And the degree of guilt of commanders and chiefs should be determined only after an investigation by the military commander of an incident or violation.
And it will be differently - "they wanted the best, but it turned out as always"!
And the color ... It doesn’t matter what color the cat ... the main thing is that she catches mice ... and with VP!

[O_RUS]

Quote: KazaK Bo

that such a contingent is sometimes drafted into the army and navy that they don’t want to take them to prison.

"+" maybe someone runs from the article

[Larus]

I do not agree because VERY much depends on the officer how he knows who and what he does in his unit.
And rightly here they wrote above that the VP should be fully equipped (walkie-talkie, weapons and other special equipment) and subordinate to completely different bosses, then independence will be an order of magnitude greater.

[vladsolo56]

And how did they live in the USSR without the police, and without the military police? I can’t imagine, but now everything is civilized, and the police are in our best houses, and the military police. The number of civil servants will soon be doubled in comparison with the USSR, but the benefits are only not expected to be doubled. Or maybe I don’t understand what?

[common man]

Well, in the USSR there were also WAIs, and curfew companies, and commandant’s offices. Functions are basically the same. only the name is different. But as for the number of civil servants, I agree to all 100.

Quote: omsbon

I don't like the word "police"

Similarly. It’s not ours. And how did the police not please them?

[Hleb]

and the commandant’s and commandant’s offices do not cause any analogies with Germany, for example? or brigades?

[Obliterator]

Quote: man in the street

Similarly. It’s not ours. And how did the police not please them?

The fact that this is the wrong name for the organs of the VD. Militia is not law enforcement at all, but a military militia.

[Hort]

all with a severe squint :)

[TRex]

I don’t know about special tasks and about how they are framed by the Law of the Russian Federation, what rights and obligations ...
But about the uniform, there is an opinion that the police (both the military and the Ministry of Internal Affairs) should not hide from the people and their contingent in camouflage - they are not working on the battlefield. "Partners" paint white stripes on their policemen so that they can see from a distance - and be afraid ...
About weapons, special equipment and communications - I agree. About "Lynx" - no (enough of a domestic manufacturer).

[Bum]

But about the uniform, there is an opinion that the police (both the military and the Ministry of Internal Affairs) should not hide from the people and their contingent in camouflage - they are not working on the battlefield. "Partners" paint white stripes on their policemen so that they can see from a distance - and be afraid ...

Yeah, who is self-propelled! Seen from afar! Wow!

[TRex]

And the main purpose of the VP is to catch self-propelled vehicles? Think for yourself: a policeman, as such, is a representative of the authorities. Who should he hide from and why? I am touched by our riot police when in his "shadow" or "city" suit he is engaged in the protection of law and order, conducts special events, etc. Who are we "camouflaging" from? From taxpayers? Have you seen at least one policeman in camouflage in an imported movie? There are even special forces in their "spetsukha", but not in camouflage ...
At the end of the 80’s, as an MP officer, I found the Marine Corps switching to camouflage uniforms, which I wholeheartedly welcomed because it was really awkward to trample dust in our black one.
Then, suddenly, he discovered that everything was in camouflage: from the janitor to the Minister of Defense.

[omsbon]

I don’t like the word "police" in relation to our country, and naturally I don’t like "military police". The police were hanged during the war for treason, hence not love.

[Ruslandeth]

Yes, it would be more traditional to name it in Feng Shui. "Commandant's office" or something

[vladimirZ]

I agree with you. The word "policeman" and "police" in Russian is associated with the words "traitor", "enemy's accomplice".
How could one accept it in the name of the law enforcement bodies of Russia? Only, in the case of the subordinate position of Russia, the USA and the West, nothing else.
Even the address "comrade" and "master" in relation to the policeman is disgusting. Brr, disgusting.

[svp67]

Well, let's return to the "origins" and call this emerging branch of the armed forces - ZHANDARMERIA.
And then you don’t have to think much about the colors of the form - traditional, blue

[Serg 122]

From blue they probably stirs up ...

[Doctor71]

Not not not. The GENDARMERY is the Ministry of Internal Affairs. But not VP.

[Hey]

Military police are also field gendarmerie. I wonder why they didn’t call it that? Interesting gendarmes in the photo.

[Doctor71]

Yes, not the Gendarmes! This is MR (i.e. military police). And not badges are necessary, but gogzhetki on flat chains with a 2nd eagle. (Dog plaque )

[Kunar]

And in the Urals with a PC in the cradle

[Sochi]

The odd police ... Despite the fact that there is a regular one, so will they perform the same functions? What for? If I am not mistaken, then we have more police officers than military personnel. If the military does not fall under civilian jurisdiction, then the military police are needed, and those structures were enough.

[Niecke]

It seems that the authorities are sorely lacking Mycopov? and even 3 full divisions of the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs-created this year-did not reassure the gentlemen

[garpastum75]

what kind of 3 full divisions of the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs?

[yan]

It’s an absolutely correct decision, and you can think about external attributes later. The main thing is to determine the functionality

[Hey]

I did not know that the military police make up the arsenal of the Russian Army.
Why is this article in the section ARSENAL.

[user]

The police should not have conscripts (only contract soldiers) and privates (not lower than warrant officers). Otherwise, the meaning of such a service is lost, well, of course, the quantity, otherwise it will unfold as in the Ministry of Internal Affairs (the world norm is by an amount less than our amount by almost 5 times).

[yan]

I agree on the staffing. A functional responsibilities to prescribe more clearly. The experience of the Special Police was already when it is not clear who is responsible for what and where whose jurisdiction ends.

[Kovrovsky]

Quote: man in the street

Well, in the USSR there were also WAIs, and curfew companies, and commandant’s offices. Functions are basically the same. only the name is different. But as for the number of civil servants, I agree to all 100.

Quote: omsbon

I don't like the word "police"

Similarly. It’s not ours. And how did the police not please them?

As Medvedev explained (the Law on the Police was adopted under him), the police were created from unprofessional people, hence all its troubles, but the police will be created from completely professionals who have passed certification. How it actually turned out, probably, they themselves are in the know!

[common man]

Thank you, in the know. It would be so if it weren’t !

[1961NNN]

Another show of Shoigu ... are the military personnel of the Moscow military commandant’s office ... see chevron

[lilit.193]

Quote: 1961NNN

Another show of Shoigu ...

Stopudnyak!

[ed1968]

they can be judged only by the results of work

[lilit.193]

But tell me, in general, why are they needed? What, for example, the internal troops will not be able to ensure order? Or have you already completely gone crazy with your departmental affiliation?

[svp67]

Quote: lilit.193

What, for example, the internal troops will not be able to ensure order?

Where? Inside the military units of the MO. Yes, not one commander of explosives there, without a special order does not climb ...

[lilit.193]

Quote: svp67

Where?

At all kinds of events, for example.

Quote: svp67

Where? Inside the military units of the MO. Yes, not one commander of explosives there, without a special order does not climb ...

It will be necessary to climb. And it will be necessary to launch it there. Yes, and in general, in the USSR they did without this military police. The VAI and the commandant’s office were quite enough. And the discipline was higher than now.

[svp67]

Quote: lilit.193

It will be necessary to climb

Armed formations of different departments will "climb" into each other's internal affairs only in cases of a threat of mutiny ... I don't know your life experience, but on my own behalf I will tell you - God forbid you to get into a "showdown" of two different departments ... but here alone from the MO, others from the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

[RoTTor]

And this is what the Americans had to say. It would be better if useful ...

[krpmlws]

Tired of these infantile conversations: it’s good or bad that the police were renamed the police and so on. Fuck this is our government, who will vote for it in the next election is that traitor. How much you can sift everything and everything, it’s time to finally come back from hibernation and remember that we are Russian, we have a national dignity and a duty to protect our Fatherland.

[studentmati]

The need to restore order within the army units can only say that the army has degraded: commanders are nothing, orders are not law. This is already becoming a complete collapse. Nonsense...

And for the protection of any army events, the rank and file is quite enough. On the contrary, at all times, army units were involved in helping civil law enforcement agencies.

[Leader]

Both tank biathlon and military policemen are just another window dressing, "sawing the dough", a senseless undertaking, stupidity ...
And those who will serve as "military policeman" will have a hard time in life. We traditionally do not like cops, but they will generally be despised, especially by the military.

[Serg 122]

Yes they will not. From whom did they pick them up? Of those who were at the disposal, or at the state were. Flesh from the flesh is called ...

[HINO]

The number of punishers is growing near the beloved Motherland ... He is very afraid of the power of his people, whether they are in uniform or without ... In vain, in general ... The fact that Kvachkov is sitting, and the army is silent, clearly indicates that that we don’t have an army. So ... rabble in the form, under the management of Art. reserve lieutenant who had not served in the army for a day.

[albanech]

It’s better to remove everything and leave the military police flag and inscription on a red background! Beret let it be gray or brown with a brown belt!

[itr]

I still don’t understand. Well, they renamed the command and something has changed?

[xomaNN]

It smacks of some kind of new campaign, like Fazil Iskander's in "Constellation Kozlotur"

[Roman1970]

Here are the big letters "VP" clearly licked off the American band "MR" of a similar department.

[Roman1970]

Here are the big letters "VP" clearly licked off the American band "MR" of a similar department.

[akmoa781]

I categorically agree with my colleagues, the VP should be armed with personal weapons and special means, as well as means of amplification.

[Varly]

In units, the commander puts things in order! And if the commander does his job, then outside the unit, his subordinates will keep order!

[Swetly]

Why then the commandant’s office and patrol?