Media: The Ministry of Defense has postponed the signing of a contract for the supply of MiG-35 to 2016 year

The Russian Ministry of Defense, at the request of the Ministry of Finance, has postponed the signing of one of the largest defense contracts with the Russian Aircraft Corporation (RSK) MiG for the supply of 37 MiG-35 fighters for three years, a high-ranking military official said.

According to the source, the Ministry of Defense and RSK MiG really planned to conclude a contract for 37 aircraft with a total amount of about 37 billion rubles back in June of this year. However, due to the protracted work on the provision and justification of calculation and calculation materials, the government could not sign an order on the definition of a corporation as the sole performer of this task.

“At the same time, we received a proposal from the Ministry of Finance to transfer part of the expenditures allocated under the state armament program to 2014-2016 for the year 2016,” a source told Kommersant in the Ministry of Defense. “After the analysis, we decided to shift the purchase of the MiG-35 to the right.” At the same time, the total number of fighters assigned for procurement in the state armaments program - 37 units - will remain unchanged.
As stated earlier by the Deputy Minister of Armaments Yuri Borisov, the funds allocated for the purchase of some samples of military equipment, "just return to the budget with a request to give them back to us after 2016 of the year." According to Mr. Borisov, the total amount of expenses transferred in this way can be a maximum of 100 billion rubles.

The first official information about the purchase of military fighters MiG-35 appeared in 2012 year. Then the CEO of the corporation Sergey Korotkov, without mentioning the exact number of aircraft, stated that the supply of new fighters to the Air Force will begin in the 2014 year. It should be noted that President Putin promised to bring the cars of this type to the troops soon, during his direct line on 13 TV this April.

Sources close to the United Aircraft Building Corporation (it includes the RSK MiG), argue that the adoption of such a decision rests with the customer: "We must reckon with this." According to one source, for RSK MiG, concluding a contract with the military this year would be a great help for the future - this would make the work of the enterprise more stable by adding additional capacity to its facilities.

The chance for recharging capacity was at RSK MiG in case of winning the Indian tender for the supply of a medium multipurpose combat aircraft (MMRCA), for which Russia put out its MiG-35. The deal included the supply of 126 fighters and was valued at more than 10 billion dollars. However, the MiG-35 eventually dropped out of the competition.

Despite this, to date, RSK MiG fulfills several foreign contracts for the supply of MiG-29 Myanmar and MiG-29K / KUB fighters in India, for upgrading the Indian MiG-29, as well as 1 in June, is preparing to transfer the first batch of six MiG-2013М / М29 to Syria (the entire contract from 2 of the year is designed for 2007 machines).

In terms of the Ministry of Defense, the package is less impressive: in 2012, a contract was signed for 20 MiG-29K fighters and four MiG-29KUBs for the needs of the Naval fleetwhose deliveries are due to be completed in 2015. The current portfolio of orders, numbering about 50 aircraft, is enough to load the corporation for the next two to three years, predicts the director of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies Ruslan Pukhov. “Therefore, the transfer of this contract for 2016 for RSK MiG is not so terrible,” he added.

However, until the conclusion of the contract for the MiG-35, the RSK MiG may receive additional workload in the form of a contract for the MiG-29CMT fighters. According to sources in both the aviation industry and the Ministry of Defense, the parties are ready to consider the possibility of purchasing a batch of aircraft of this type with a delivery time of up to 2016 of the year. Now in service with the Russian Air Force is 28 MiG-29SMT. They were transferred to them in the 2008 year after Algeria’s refusal to accept them due to quality claims. After the contract with Algeria, concluded in 2006, with the participation of Vladimir Putin, was canceled, Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov agreed to take the planes, but they had to be seriously refined, as the Defense Ministry put forward even more serious demands than Algeria. But now the project "SMT" can be resumed.

Comments

[Denis]

Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov

Here, hang him by the legs and shake like Pinocchio, the necessary amount will be found

37 aircraft totaling about 37 billion rubles back in June this year

And if you add to it and at least 37 deputies, the world will obviously lose nothing, and

37 aircraft totaling about 37 billion rubles

definitely with too much to find

[Sirs]

Most likely they got there the acquisition of the necessary equipment, the manufacture of equipment, etc. In short, modernization of production facilities - although this is hard to believe. Just as usual, tomatoes are digging through the back door.
And although what kind of back door is here, everything is directly included in the estimate.

[Edward72]

Most likely, the Ministry of Finance conducted a quiet check

[Geisenberg]

Quote: Edward72

Most likely, the Ministry of Finance conducted a quiet check

Very similar. And then the price is interesting 1 plane 1 billion rubles ... At this price, you can buy raptors.

[Alexander Romanov]

Damn is a little more than a billion people can not, when we write off debts of tens of billions? The IMF transferred 10 billion and nothing stood the budget.

[Constantine]

For starters, you would not have to go straight to what was written, but to look a bit at news feeds. The information in the article is out of context since in exchange for the Mig-35, the military, with a high degree of probability, will take the Mig-29SMT with a delivery time until 2016.

You can read here - http://www.military-informant.com/index.php/airforce/3395-1.html

Now we look at the source of the news, the newspaper Kommersant.
http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2257997?isSearch=True
Who informed them about the postponement?

A high-ranking source in the military department told Kommersant that the contract for the MiG-35 fighters will not be signed in the coming years.

Those. the statement is not official and whether it was a question, but the businessman received the benefit from the fact that everyone, against the general background, began to replicate the news with a reference to it. There is no one except the Merchant, who, in the meantime, serves foreign interests in the information space.

Therefore, your panic is premature and based on rumors that no one, not even Kommersant himself, has been confirmed, by and large, Such changes, as a rule, are officially reported.

It's like believing the "anonymous sources" of Echo of Moscow and their closest associates that the Chekists in interviews with them cried and complained about Putin, for example.

[NickitaDembelnulsa]

Again, something muddied.

[Airman]

Quote: NickitaDembelnulsa

Again, something muddied.

It’s just that the Ministry of Finance decided to show who is who, formally found fault with the prolonged deadlines for the provision of materials. And Poghosyan put his paw, all is not enough for him. STALIN is not on them, but a pity.

[Constantine]

You do not confuse Poghosyan with Rothschild. Or justify your words. If everything is transparent regarding the Ministry of Finance, then it’s not worth using Poghosyan as a plug in each aviation barrel. It’s even getting ridiculous.

[Sirs]

Well, it began, blink then the T-50, armata, etc. etc.
And how you want everything to be as planned and beyond.

[Constantine]

Quote: Sirs

Well, it began, blink then the T-50, armata, etc. etc.
And how you want everything to be as planned and beyond.

Verbiage is not the best quality. "Again prospolipolymers", etc. need to be discussed in LJ. There the audience will welcome it warmer

[Garrin]

However, due to the lengthy work on the provision and justification of settlement and calculation materials, the government could not sign the order to determine the corporation as the sole executor of this task.

They are pulling time to raise prices later.

[Ruslandeth]

It looks like a disruption to the state defense order .. And in general, such preturbations always stink very strongly, especially when the Ministry of Finance's donkey ears stick out. Excuse me, a reflection on the Ministry of Finance (Kudrin) and the "shift to the right" (liberals).

President Putin also promised

But Vova doesn’t know, come on?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Ruslandeth

But Vova doesn’t know, come on?

Of course not, are you

[Su-9]

Being a big fan of Sukhoi fighters (but not Poghosyan) ), it would be very interesting to know about unbiased opinions about the Mig-35.
In simple terms - why does Russia need this plane? What is it about having two or three main fighters in the park again?
I see one reason - MiG support to make it easier to sell 35th abroad.
And so - if there is a Su-27/35 family, and Teshka is approaching, what tasks will the MiG-35 solve? And isn’t it easier / cheaper to upgrade the existing 29e to SMT?
I'm not saying that the MiG-35 is a bad plane. But in my opinion, the Mig-35 is easier to dry. If it is already necessary to have two main fighters, then the second (light and cheap) should be made single-engine and easy to operate (ala Gripen for example).
And if it is necessary to update Park 29x and Sukhoi will not do so much quickly, is it not easier / cheaper to upgrade the existing 29e to SMT? I understand that SMT is a very competitive machine - in any case, it will perform well against everything that all neighboring neighbors have (I don’t speak about everyone who has at least Gripen / EF / Rafal).

How is it really?

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Su-9

In simple terms - why does Russia need this plane? What is it about having two or three main fighters in the park again?

It is simpler and cheaper and should not be purchased in the amount of 37 pieces, but in hundreds.

[Wedmak]

In simple terms - why does Russia need this plane?

Light fighters are needed if only because they are easier to base on aircraft carriers, they are almost 2 times cheaper, they can be used to perform tasks where heavy Su will be redundant. MiG is more of a fighter, and Su is already a multi-functional aircraft.
And the MiG-gi is an excellent cover for Sushki - who will make out from a distance where MiG and Su are? And they can pay for it very quickly.

[Su-9]

And why is SMT much worse than the 35th? Why can't CMT be used where the 27th is redundant?

And again, how many types of aircraft can the Air Force allow?
I think 11 types are very wasteful.
Su-24, Su-25, Su - 27, Su -33, Su -35, Teshka; Mig-29, Mig-35, MIG-31; Yak-130; L-39?
With tanks / self-propelled guns, they realized that you need to have 1-2 models ...
As for me, such a spraying means localism and wrecking.
minusers do not understand this.

[Wedmak]

I think 11 types are very wasteful.
Su-24, Su-25, Su - 27, Su -33, Su -35, Teshka; Mig-29, Mig-35, MIG-31; Yak-130; L-39?

Well, you’ve mixed everything right ... and not the whole list
Su-24 and Tu-22М3 is gradually being replaced by Su-34
Su-25 is being upgraded to Su-25СМ
Su-27 (which one?) Is also waiting for modernization and possibly a replacement for Su-35
Su-33 will serve their time and at rest, they will be replaced by MiG-29K or MiG-35K (if they like to do this)
There are no competitors for the MiG-31, this is our only long-range interceptor.
L-39 will be replaced by Yak-130 and L-410 for transporters.
Total, with all updates, charged with optimism, we get:
Su-25СМ (attack aircraft),
Su-34 (front-line bomber),
Su-35С (multifunctional),
Su-30СМ (multifunctional + educational),
MiG-29K (ship),
MiG-35С (multi-functional light),
T-50 (multi-functional, the near future, it is possible to replace the entire line of Su-27 / 30),
MiG-31BM (the interceptor, unfortunately, will also soon leave the stage),
Yak-130 (training),
L-410 (training).
Total: 9 types. And everyone has their own purpose. Not wasteful at all. Although the Americans are trying to engage in two types. Let's see what they do.
T-50 do not believe he will not yet enter the army.
And so on, strategists, shipping, transportation ...

[TSOOBER]

I respect your point of view, but all the same, the MIG-35 turned out to be a multifunctional aircraft (working both on land and by sea, let alone in the air, and most importantly, the MIG armament is out of competition) there is simply no money! Super duper gobbled up everything!

[Odysseus]

Quote: Su-9

In simple terms - why does Russia need this plane?

In the number of 37 aircraft, it really is not really needed. Imho, either to produce a large series, or not to produce at all.
Purely from a military point of view, the EPR is no more than that of the Su-35, and the radar with AFAR is at a lower cost. If you modify the engine and produce it in mass would be optimal.
But there are issues with the completion of the radar and with the narrowness of the production base in Lukhovitsy. This is why the contract is postponed.

Quote: Su-9

I see one reason - MiG support to make it easier to sell 35th abroad.

It’s just that Mig’s is doing well. There are already contracts with two countries (Syria, India), a third is coming up. The Su-35 is more difficult to sell.

Quote: Su-9

And so - if there is a Su-27/35 family, and Teshka is approaching, what tasks will the MiG-35 solve?

Indeed, the fluctuations with the "intermediate type" have already tired a little. If we cannot afford two different aircraft now, we need to buy one in normal quantities.

Quote: Su-9

And isn’t it easier / cheaper to upgrade the existing 29e to SMT?

No, there are problems with gliders. Plus SMT is out of date.

Quote: Su-9

But in my opinion, the Mig-35 is easier to dry.

Not really. Mig-29 was originally a mass plane for gaining air supremacy directly over the theater of operations. But now we just do not have large ground groups, and the probability of a large ground invasion from Europe is small. And the Su-27 was originally a fighter interceptor, which is now in great demand.

[lotar]

Gentlemen, the officers do not take into account the fact that with the postponement of the time, this military weapon, taking into account inflation and other factors, will already cost not 1 billion, but 1,5 - 2 billion rubles. I would like to be mistaken, but in our country I know little examples of reducing the cost of goods . And how many more transfers there will be, and how much the amount of the State program will increase as a result. And how many people who still want to join the feeder of the State program will even be afraid to think. How would the money again not go to the pockets of the military and not just officials.

[TRex]

... postponed the signing of one of the largest defense contracts with the Russian MiG Aircraft Corporation (RSK) for the supply of 37 MiG-35 fighters ...
... Now the Russian Air Force is armed with the 28 MiG-29СМТ ...

Pancake! Are we talking about front-line fighters or strategic bombers?
We can't buy a regiment of MiGs - "where's the money, Zin?"

[mogus]

"where is the money, Zin?"

Sochi Olympics, APEC Summit, 2018 World Cup, expansion (and, of course, arrangement) of Moscow ...

But then the Chinese are attracted to the Far East and Siberia to invest $ 5 billion ...

[avt]

Quote: mogus

Sochi Olympics, APEC Summit, 2018 World Cup, expansion (and, of course, arrangement) of Moscow ...

Who about what, and lousy about the bath. So on the contrary should be happy. The plant is located in the Moscow region, and the design bureau in Moscow. So you have a gracious holiday - Moscow and the region did not get any money. For once lucky and again a comment like from a fairy tale - "More than ever, the old woman scolds, you fool, you simpleton." In general, Pushkin is our everything.

[mogus]

svpressa.ru/economy/article/68447

Your attitude: Muscovites and the rest - is understandable.

Explain why those living inside the MKAD should get more for the same work than in the regions?

[avt]

Quote: mogus

Your attitude: Muscovites and the rest - is understandable.

It’s nice. Who among us is happy with this division? And look in the mirror is not hunting?

Quote: mogus

Sochi Olympics, APEC Summit, 2018 World Cup, expansion (and, of course, arrangement) of Moscow ...

Himself from anger, everything with a capital letter writes an acre of the geographical name of the city, contrary to the rules of spelling, but of course someone else is to blame. The campaign is rooted in Ukraine, judging by the Svidomo stubbornness in rejecting the arguments of others.

[mogus]

It’s nice. Who among us is happy with this division?

Communication takes place not only in this forum ... Caught sometimes.

Himself from anger, everything with a capital letter writes an acre of the geographical name of the city, contrary to the rules of spelling, well, of course, someone else is to blame

There is no malice. There is resentment for such an attitude towards the country.

The campaign is rooted in Ukraine, judging by the Svidomo stubbornness in rejecting the arguments of others.

I wrote earlier that the roots are in Siberia.
Russians do not give up.

Last time, on the same topic, you still did not give a direct answer to the question: do you support the relocation of companies to the regions?

[avt]

Quote: mogus

Last time, on the same topic, you still did not give a direct answer to the question: do you support the relocation of companies to the regions?

More than once already he answered everything specifically, not horse feed, if you want to hear only what you want, then medicine is powerless it is not treated.

Quote: mogus

Explain why those living inside the MKAD should get more for the same work than in the regions?

Here’s how to deal with this, because Moscow specifically ordered everyone pay less There is probably a secret secret decree of the president and a government decree, and Muscovites specifically hide it from the country. Well, there couldn’t be anything else to explain, and to understand on the spot how the salary is calculated, naturally there is no need. By the way, recently, Ishayev’s GDP demanded by the fall to fulfill the promised and paid more than the current 30% of what was planned for the year, but the rains were charged in time for Ishayev’s campaign, now it’s not up to the federal plans for the Far East. Quite another year old, the rubber will be extended to the Local Chiefs for joy, and of course to the Shuvalov’s in Moscow, not without it, they’re nowhere without each other. But here, in general, the answer is clear - the 18th World Cup is to blame, the Ring Road in the suburbs, well, in general Moscow, in fact of geographical existence.

[mogus]

Here's how to deal with it, specifically Moscow ordered it to pay everyone less. There must be a secret secret decree of the president and a government decree and Muscovites specially hide it from the country.

humor appreciated

. But here, in general, the answer is clear - the 18th World Cup is to blame, the Ring Road in the suburbs, well, Moscow in general, because of its geographical existence.

The essence of the claims: Muscovites believe that such a distribution of money across the country is normal, but the president and the regions svpressa.ru/economy/article/68447 do not agree

[avt]

Quote: mogus

There is no malice. There is resentment for such an attitude towards the country.

I don’t believe it, and all, just because of such a division into capital and the rest, urban and rural, and so on, the list goes on.

[mogus]

Case in point.
Social network "classmates".
Comment with a humiliating grin to my photo. Muscovite. A dispute ensued, which turned into conversation (Sometimes I dabble in poetry). After six days of such an acquaintance - a question (the name of the settlement coincides with the Moscow region), address clarification (house, street), well, I specified - Siberia. Immediately deletes the correspondence and the blacklist ... Let me, but a couple of minutes ago I wanted to come ...
It is not necessary to think that because of one, it was taken over by everyone - not an isolated case of the attitude of the capital to the regions.

[Black Colonel]

Per picture +.

[Grigorich 1962]

I don’t like all this ..... right away the parable comes to mind about the donkey and his speaking teacher ......
if this goes on then all our euphoria about the revival of our sun will melt like a hedgehog in the fog

[soldier's grandson]

and she didn’t have this euphoria, it’s just a duck or the Chinese give more for them

[klimpopov]

Mdaaaaa! All with the past!
At first they announced loudly, everyone was happy, now everything has been canceled. The owners of his word ... He gave the word, he took the word back ... It's a shame.

[Dwarfik]

Kind! I didn’t understand a few! The departmental affiliation of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Finance is clearly different, what does it mean at the request? The State Budget has pledged money until 2020, what are our requests! and even 3 years in advance! Leave parts without planes? ......

[Mizhgan]

The article is very similar to the next "in br o s". Against the background of the recent large embezzlement of state. budget, this article text is easy to swallow. "They profuked again, stole again, drank, etc." Although, in fact, the sources of this news are not official, veiled under "loud" terms. No more. Minus.

[slavik_gross]

Very, very bad news, 100 pounds in the budget there is no money ... But by the way, for development, this order is needed by Migu.

[kartalovkolya]

Well, let's go! Guys, what the hell are you ... and? Are we stupid people or what? And where is Comrade Lavrenty Pavlovich?

[kartalovkolya]

Well, really oh ... l! Are you gentlemen out of your mind? The best apparatus in the world and such "reflections"! Who do you work for? Where is your parachute? No words !!!!!

[Apollo]

Complement
Instead of MiG-35, the Ministry of Defense will order MiG-29СМТ fighters with a delivery time of up to 2016 year
Instead of a contract for MiG-35, Kommersant’s interlocutors told, MiG RSK may soon receive an order from the Ministry of Defense for MiG-29СМТ fighters with a delivery time of up to 2016. Now the Russian Air Force is armed with 28 MiG-29СМТ aircraft, which were originally manufactured for Algeria.

However, in 2008, Algeria refused to accept these aircraft because of claims to their quality, and the fighters were handed over to the Russian Ministry of Defense, which sent them for revision.

The agreement on the purchase of fighters of the Ministry of Defense and the Russian aircraft manufacturing corporation MiG (RSK MiG) were to be signed before the end of the 2013 of the year. The amount of the contract was estimated at 37 billion rubles.

However, as it became known to Kommersant, due to the lengthy work on the provision and justification of calculation and calculation materials government could not sign the order as defined by RSK MiG as the sole executor of this task.
http://www.military-informant.com/index.php/airforce/3395-1.html


government.............?! Clearly, who was responsible ?! As always, no one!

[Cpa]

New MIGs are needed as massive, cheap , serial cars, which in case of war can be made in large numbers. You need at least one multipurpose, which is being built in large series, to make up for losses in the event of war. Let at least one plant be capable of it.