Persons involved in the desecration of a military memorial in Rzhev convicted

The Rzhev city court on Friday sentenced 21-year-old Nikolai Sergeyev, 19-year-old Mikhail Berlizov and 18-year-old Nikita Kazaritsky, who were accused of desecrating a memorial to Soviet soldiers in Rzhev, said the court spokesman Elena Smirnova.

All three were found guilty of committing a crime stipulated by the article of the Criminal Code of Russia “Desecration of burial grounds and gravestones by a group of persons by prior agreement”, ITAR-TASS reports.

Sergeyev was sentenced to one year of imprisonment in a penal colony, Berlizova and Kazaritsky were sentenced to restriction of liberty on 1,5 each year.

As established by the court and the investigation, four young people, parkour lovers, one of whom did not reach the age of criminal responsibility at that time, used the Soviet soldiers who died during the liberation of Rzhev from the Nazi invaders to jump with elements of the acrobatics of the Obelisk plate.

At the same time, two of them committed indecent acts. All this was recorded on a video camera and placed on the Web.

The monument “Obelisk to Soviet soldiers”, including the Eternal Flame and fraternal burial places, belongs to the objects of historical and cultural heritage of federal significance.

Rzhev, the city-front on the closest approaches to Moscow, was given a special role during the war years: on the Rzhev bridgehead in 150 km from the capital, Soviet troops did not allow the fascists to make the last dash to the capital and deploy forces of the Army Group Center to Stalingrad to help the group Paulus Losses of the Red Army on the Rzhev bridgehead amounted to more than a million people.

Comments

[Alexander Romanov]

They didn’t give much, I had to solder everyone for the most I do not want others to start thinking with their head.

[Apollo]

244 Article. Abuse of the bodies of the dead and their places of burial

[Criminal Code of the Russian Federation] [Chapter 25] [Article 244]

1. Violation of the bodies of the dead or the destruction, damage or desecration of burial places, gravestones or cemetery buildings intended for ceremonies in connection with the burial of the dead or their commemoration, -

shall be punishable by a fine in the amount of up to forty thousand rubles or in the amount of the convict's wages or other income for a period of up to three months, or by compulsory labor for a term of up to three hundred and sixty hours, or by correctional labor for a term of up to one year, or by arrest for a term of up to three months.

2. The same acts committed:

a) by a group of persons, by a group of persons by prior agreement or by an organized group;

b) for reasons of political, ideological, racial, national or religious hatred or enmity or for hatred or enmity with respect to any social group, as well as with respect to a sculptural, architectural structure dedicated to the fight against fascism or the victims of fascism, or burial places participants in the fight against fascism;

c) with the use of violence or with the threat of its use, -

shall be punishable by restraint of liberty for a term of up to three years, or forced labor for a term of up to five years, or by arrest for a term of three to six months, or by imprisonment for a term of up to five years.

not only they gave little, in my opinion, the sanction indicated in the article should be increased, because the maximum punishment is up to five years, to make 10 so that others are not accustomed.

Good morning Alexander

[Tersky]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

They didn’t give much, I had to solder each to the most I do not want

Quote: Apollon

not only gave little, in my opinion the sanction indicated in the article should be increased

Sasha, Apollo, ! This grandfather solved similar problems with the "golden" youth with his own methods, I can see - quite effectively ..

[VARCHUN]

I completely agree, at one time I can shoot for 9-14 years for criminality and everyone knew and was afraid of it. What is 1 year is not for those who would have done to them in China? And I’ll tell you, they would show on TV, but in another format.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

sometimes you need to think

[Apollo]

Quote: Hon

Me like a lawyer it becomes alarming from the increased number of illegal sentences; this is lawlessness.

and therefore you have 3 warnings .........?! Another minus.

[Arabist]

As a lawyer, I am ashamed of such colleagues.

[Very old]

Thank you, Andrey. You all have lost

[builder]

Why bother all in one pile.

[Edward72]

But I’m worried that there are more and more such lawyers.

[Very old]

Eddie, I'm not surprised. The sons of lawyers and the lawyers themselves

[Edward72]

Valentine after this is sad at heart.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Hon

Me like a lawyer

you don’t advertise it much, otherwise they’ll laugh

Quote: Hon

Is this memorial a burial place? If not, then the verdict is generally illegal!

244 Article. Abuse of the bodies of the dead and their places of burial

1. Violation of the bodies of the dead or the destruction, damage or desecration of burial places, gravestones or cemetery buildings intended for ceremonies in connection with the burial of the dead or their commemoration, -
shall be punished by a fine in the amount of from fifty to one hundred minimum wages or in the amount of the convict's wages or other income for a period of up to one month, or by compulsory labor for a term of one hundred twenty to one hundred eighty hours, or by corrective labor for a term of up to one year, or arrest for up to three months.
2. The same acts committed:
a) by a group of persons, by a group of persons by prior agreement or by an organized group;
b) based on national, racial, religious hatred or enmity, as well as in relation to the sculptural, architectural structure dedicated to the fight against fascism or the victims of fascism, or burial places of participants in the fight against fascism;
c) with the use of violence or with the threat of its use - shall be punishable by restriction of liberty for a term of up to three years, or arrest for a term of from three to six months, or imprisonment for a term of up to three years.
spawned lawyers in which even the brain does not have enough to re-read the law and delve into, not to mention, what would be kept in mind

[builder]

Always think

[Apollo]

Quote: Hon

Hon (3) Today, 09: 47 ↑
Is this memorial a burial place? If not, then the verdict is generally illegal!

Hooligans defiling a war memorial convicted in Rzhev
16.08.2013 | Source: Pravda.Ru

In Rzhev, a hearing was held on the case of the desecration of the main war memorial of Rzhev - the Obelisk of Glory on Cathedral Hill, which is also the mass grave of the dead participants in the Second World War.

http://www.pravda.ru/news/districts/16-08-2013/1170290-mogila-0/

Especially for you, highlighted the last sentence. Minus.

[Albert1988]

Excuse me, comrade, but insulting the monument to soldiers who fell for their homeland should be punished regardless of whether it is a burial place or not, this is my personal opinion, especially since this particular memorial is it!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Listen, read the law, if you studied shitty, so at least now, before you write nonsense, read what you talk about

[alone]

and spitting is not sorry for such a mug?

[Very old]

They suddenly felt sorry for themselves ... Are you people?

[Tersky]

Quote: Hon

Is this memorial a burial place? If not, then the verdict is generally illegal!

Damn, wherever you spit - only Padva around. Have you read the news carefully? Monument "Obelisk to Soviet soldiers", including the Eternal Flame and mass graves .. Those. these protrusions according to Art. 244 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation shone up to five years. Memorials of the Great Patriotic War are memorials in gratitude to all the soldiers who died and disappeared while defending our Motherland and its interests, in practice implementing the slogan "Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten", also serves as a reminder to the descendants who brought their lives to the altar of victory for their sake today. The descendants "thanked" .... the pigs .. "Advocate" - MINUS

[Very old]

Tersky Victor, my indignation overwhelms me. It doesn’t fit into my head - are it our people? I am the last of the men, then the last name stalls. And who is happy?

[VARCHUN]

Whoever studied and remembers the Soviet Union, he wouldn’t do such a thing, but the dwellers who didn’t instill it do that.

[Very old]

Vitenka, they want to destroy us. And try mine And forever and ever

[VARCHUN]

And who else besides the normal ones knows the story of more than 1000 people in less than a year. There, the whole earth is saturated with blood, and the Russian judging for lawyers generally mopcha, a year in the colony. It’s just not a shaky Russian stupidity.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Hon

as well as in relation to the sculptural, architectural structure dedicated to the fight against fascism or the victims of fascism

Lawyers carefully study the Criminal Code

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

not one I re-read the article

[Very old]

In the Kolyma. In the Kolyma. To make it easier to understand

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

I can take to my re-education, I need to bring hay from the field

[valerii41]

Dad and mom didn’t bring up the house. Kolyma can't fix the hunchback’s grave. Kolyma is Russia and there’s nothing to do to the bastards

[Very old]

Teddy, not a horse feed

[Very old]

Listen, Mr. Lord, there are still photos from that war in our family. Dry, brittle ... And very expensive

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Hon

Is this memorial a burial place?

Is an.

Monument "Obelisk to Soviet soldiers", including the Eternal Flame and mass graves

[valerii41]

This is our future officials.

[waisson]

I’ll interrupt and tell you the pile. I may not be right for guys aged 18-19 where patriotic education is if they study but if not enter an article for parasitism as people in the USSR do not want to work, then you need to be forced to work for the good of society and then there will be no bad thoughts in your head like so addiction and alcoholism

[krasin]

And they gave it normally. Young stupid ones, they don’t have to cut off their lives. The main thing is that there is a rather severe punishment, 1,5, years of youth from life.

[Captain Vrungel]

Well, they planted it. So what. There will be one more potential criminal. Will pick up prisoners "concepts" and come out "free" with the stigma of "prisoners" and problems of employment. Will be weak in spirit, will go to the priyates of the local authorities.
To revive the frontal place and to carve it in public without burrs with rods so that it would burn out of shame and a couple of weeks on the ass could not. Very educational measure and memorable until the end of days and also instant action.
Revive and legitimize. Russian traditions must be observed. (if a Muslim, then not on the ass, but on the heels).

[builder]

so that it burns out of shame and a couple of weeks

It would be good if their parents burned out of shame. Who brings up these Coves? I, in the place of their parents, (God forbid, of course) poured legs to such sons before the trial!

[Pilat2009]

Quote: stroitel

. Who brings up these Coves?

Unfortunately, parents do not think about what their offspring do on the street. And then howls begin ...
In general, for the first time, you can solder public works for 200 hours and a fine, you look and wiser

[builder]

- There, in this video, everything is not so scary, - tried to convince judge Valentina, mother of Nikolai Sergeyev. - They didn’t even spit there, they didn’t swear. Here in our village there was a monument to a soldier at a military burial place - it was already breathtaking. And then what? Well, some kind of obelisk ... A soldier is needed there!
“They just fooled in front of the camera,” smiled Mikhail Larisa, mother of Mikhail Berlizov.
- Have you ever taken your son, say, on Victory Day, to the obelisk, to the Eternal Flame, told about this place? asked the prosecutor.
“It’s not customary in our family to go to the monuments,” Larisa continued to smile. - The guys did not want to defile anything, but, yes - they did wrong.

“I think the verdict will be guilty,” Nikolai Sergeyev’s lawyer Oleg Salamatin admitted to me. - Probably they are given three years in prison with a suspended sentence of two years.
“Don't be a lawyer, what would you do?”
- Yes, they would clean their faces! But, work is work. Now I am their protector.
Parkers threw out of the court in a crowd. They laughed, on their faces - serenity.

krasin Today, 07:54 ↑
And they gave it normally. Young stupid ones, they don’t have to cut off their lives. The main thing is that there is a rather severe punishment, 1,5, years of youth from life.

- Guys, you in March, when the video broke on the Internet, repented, promised to hold a community work day at the obelisk, but you didn’t ... - honestly, I hoped to see remorse in them.
In response, they laughed and, dancing, hugging the girls went for a walk along Rzhev ...

Quotes from KP

[Boa kaa]

Quote: stroitel

- Guys, you in March, when the video broke on the Internet, repented, promised to hold a community work day at the obelisk, but you didn’t ... - honestly, I hoped to see remorse in them.
In response, they laughed and, dancing, hugging the girls went for a walk along Rzhev ...

Whom do you regret? These are shifters! The invaders will come, they will become KAPO, our people will be handed over for rations, so that they themselves "embrace the girls" to go for a walk! THIS IS THE FIFTH, UNPRINCIPLE COLUMN!
Simplicity is worse than theft, right.

[Very old]

Alyosha, and YOU tried to Explain

[VARCHUN]

So such youth in this city is a hero. The normal would have been caught and shown without trial.

[VARCHUN]

And what can mother say here she said everything about her upbringing and her awareness.

[Very old]

Michael, parents will work out, because they do not know how

[VARCHUN]

Parents of fault only in the fact that from childhood they did not show what their homeland was and what happened before that gave birth to GOVNA.

[valerii41]

Parents most likely burn from vodka

[zart_arn]

In the old days there was a good, instructive measure of influence - chaining to a pillory for a certain time with a sign "who", "whose", "what he did." I think it would be a good educational effect. Humane and edifying.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Captain Vrungel

There will be more for one potential criminal.

Yura! I, and many of my friends, are ready to forgive simple "criminals" - someone stumbled, someone drunkenly committed indecent. BUT! No one will ever forgive the "shape-shifters" who spit on the holy graves of the SOLDIER of the Fatherland.
Therefore, in the dashing 90s, the people believed the "lads" more than the shifters from the former commies.
"The principles are not teeth that fall out from a lack of vitamins in the camp diet" (Lieutenant General D. Karbyshev).

[Revolver]

Quote: Captain Vrungel

Well, they planted it. So what. There will be one more potential criminal. Will pick up prisoners "concepts" and come out "free" with the stigma of "prisoners" and problems of employment. Will be weak in spirit, will go to the priyates of the local authorities.

I don’t think so. Even with criminals, grandfathers or great-grandfathers fought. If the convicts retained even the remnants of patriotism, then be him a rooster. And the cocks of urki are not taken into business.

Quote: Captain Vrungel

To revive the frontal place and to carve it in public without burrs with rods so that it would burn out of shame and a couple of weeks on the ass could not. Very educational measure and memorable until the end of days and also instant action.
Revive and legitimize.

I support. And even a frontal place is not necessary, it can be carved at the crime scene.
Actually, I'm not a fan of the Iranian ayatollahs, but I think it would be nice to adopt one custom. They publicly hang murderers and rapists at the crime scene - everywhere that would be.

[Combitor]

<Captain Vrungel (1) Yesterday 08:28>
Sometimes in the press there are reports about how in the west judges when considering civil, administrative and criminal cases make non-standard decisions. Maybe we also have such a practice. And to punish such gentry ddoks not with a prison term, for the reason that you voiced, but, for example, with washing, painting, with a word, caring for all military monuments in the city for a certain period of time. And the order will be ensured by these idiots and the educational process will go ...

[Apollo]

Quote: krasin

And so they gave it normally. Young stupid, do not cut off their lives.

Vladimir!
Do you think this is normal ?!

Quote: krasin

The main thing is that there is punishment

and that you consider punishment ?!

Quote: krasin

and rather severe, 1,5 years of youth from life.

harsh ?!
I believe that precisely because of the liberalism of Russian law, such egregious cases take place + I don’t see angry and public censure at the general federal level. Such cases should be considered as state-of-emergency.
I can’t imagine how such a thing could have happened when the USSR was in. I’d have put it right on the wall. And you are writing harsh. The minus to you is well-deserved.

[kotdavin4i]

Good morning Vladimir, you say stupid? at the age of 21, many put on stars on shoulder straps and go to their homeland and defend such "stupid" ones, many graduate from universities, many plow in factories for 3-4 years, but here you see "young, stupid" ... but what the heck was monument to climb and even * opami there to shine .. Extreme want? would have signed up as contractors, yes to the Caucasus, which is not enough in one place?
And nefiga to protect such freaks - quite young people went crazy out of their minds.

[Very old]

San Sanych. It hurts me, only one has returned from our family.

[Revolver]

Quote: kotdavin4i

Yes, and * opami shine there .. Extreme wanted?

Here in the zone will be extreme, and it is in this place. They will tear what is called the British flag.

[Goldmitro]

<<< At the same time, two of them committed indecent acts. All this was recorded on a video camera and posted on the Web. >>>
No compassionate regrets regarding these freaks, they say. why so much, young, stupid, why did they break their lives? Such reasoning in an overly compassionate society only contributes to the reproduction of this scum and adult scum grow out of young scum! They were well aware of what they were doing and why! They needed fame! Their moronic brains were only enough for this and they posted everything on the Internet and feel brave HEROES and, for sure, continue to feel even now, when they got the deadline!
Surely video on the Internet would be much more popular on the Internet, where they would beat such cams for such cases in M ​​... DU right on the spot before being detained and convicted in court! But, unfortunately, the liberal market philosophy educating individualistic consumers who have different interests and values ​​today takes their and more and more cases when this happens openly in front of a large number of people and NO ONE is trying to STOP!

[Albert1988]

I categorically disagree - a normal person at this age should already have brains in place and he should understand what's what - if not, then it must already be strictly punished, including so that others are not harassed, but the question is where do they plant for such crimes? Of course, they do not need to be planted with experienced prisoners, but this is already a headache for the government and the Ministry of Internal Affairs

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: krasin

the punishment is also quite severe, 1,5 of the year of youth from life.

Nothing harsh. no deletion.
They just have to be home on time and not go somewhere.
For me, it would be better if they wrote out a fine for a couple of muleno. And they would pay it all their lives, like a mortgage, and remember what and why.

[Very old]

Volodya, of course, is young and stupid. But is it a lesson for the future? And this is more important than all reasoning. They will become even more embittered, and then they will create something else.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: krasin

. Young stupid, do not cut off their lives.

I reached the general, but my mind didn’t increase! (with)
Together with the sons, you need to judge the parents! It was they who raised such moral freaks! It was they who did not cultivate respect for those who gave their lives, so that they would live and give birth (but not bring up!) Such moral freaks. YES, I THINK THAT THIS IS MORAL FOR YOU!
They need to be judged, but it is NECESSARY to organize social work for them at the memorial under the soundtrack of the story of the feat of those who covered Moscow with their own homeland! And then take the test on the knowledge that the SOLDIERS did so that they now live! It is impossible to forgive! Otherwise, we can assume that the Dulles doctrine has found its followers. And this is CRASH! IMHO.

[Very old]

So what do they crop? Suggest

[VARCHUN]

When such stupid young people slaughter you over the top of my head I will see what you say, smart you are soft-bodied, move to Holland and you will live with people like you.

[Fantomac]

Yes, you don’t need to blow it, it’s an all-out consequence, but to educate it from the cradle as it was in the USSR, they drove into the head from the kindergarten that there was a terrible war of liberation, I remember we guys from one group in kindergarten wore sweatshirts with a cap with earflaps with a red ribbon for the partisans .

[Edward72]

It was necessary to smear the one who taught them history, and the life-time uncles and aunts from the ministry for carrying out such reforms.

[builder]

I totally agree.

[Civil]

and here is the famous "log in the eye"

[Ruslan_F38]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

They didn’t give much, I had to solder everyone for the most I do not want others to start thinking with their head.

And it would be even more correct to sentence them to forced labor and force them to brush the monuments to the soldiers-liberators with toothbrushes for several years, cover it in the media, show them at work through all channels, and hang up their photos with comments throughout the city , then there will be a sense and edification to the other freaks who do not remember or do not want to remember the feat of our fathers and grandfathers. Then this shame will be remembered for a lifetime!

[Airman]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

They didn’t give much, I had to solder everyone for the most I do not want others to start thinking with their head.

And no matter how much you give them, everything will not be enough. If the brains are "sharpened" only for pleasure, consumption, THIS IS ALREADY MORAL FUNCTIONS.

[Mujahiddin777]

... And attract parents so that they are engaged in upbringing and look after the kids!

[matross]

Quote: Mujahiddin777

.And attract parents,

It is good to. Yes late. They’re adults ... they’re only the minds of ten-year-olds, but they must already be responsible for themselves!

[valerii41]

If dad and mom are crazy people, what can you do?

[Aryan]

convicted
and now they will be omitted
and here on the forum obroz * us

[valerii41]

Do you think up patriots in the zone? These will be omitted if the solder from the nightstand is hidden or fingers spread out, or the authority likes red scarlet cheeks and buttocks in the ladies. Everything depends on the person’s spirit in the zone

[Very old]

For good behavior ... etc. Came out, and the old. We know how to forgive

[Airman]

Quote: Old very

For good behavior ... etc. Came out, and the old. We know how to forgive

The desecration of monuments and graves cannot be forgiven. When I listen to news about vandals in the news, I want to tear off their hands. You can’t scoff at the memory of ANCESTORS.

[Very old]

Our legislation is guided by the values ​​of "common people".

[does it]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

They didn’t give much, I had to solder everyone for the most I do not want others to start thinking with their head.

They will give, but to sense! Here the problem is the lack of patriotic education, respect for the people who fell for the liberation of our country.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: kvirit

Here the problem is the lack of patriotic education, respect for the people who fell for the liberation of our country.

THIS is a graphic picture of the failure of education in the period of "democratization", this is what the belolentochniks from Bolotnaya are striving for. GENERAL PEOPLE, their mother in a swing! And as a beloved ISRAEL, so can not say anything across the board!
Correctly, Stalin called them DRUGLESS COSMOPOLITES.
HOMELAND OR DEATH! is the slogan of BARBUDOS! Therefore, CUBA stood under the very nose of the Yankees. (Plus our help!) They will break our national character (IT IS BETTER TO DIE STANDING THAN TO LIVE ON KNEELS!) And you can "drain the material", as they say in the Air Force.

[does it]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

this is what the white bellies with the Swamp are striving for.

Are you sure that they are generally striving for something? For me, this is a performance, for the West, under the tight cover of the special services, in order to show that we have "democracy" in Russia.

[Airman]

Quote: kvirit

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

this is what the white bellies with the Swamp are striving for.

Are you sure that they are generally striving for something? For me, this is a performance, for the West, under the tight cover of the special services, in order to show that we have "democracy" in Russia.

And if under a tight cap, then this is no longer, but saboteurs, and the article should be different.

[yak69]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

They didn’t give much, I had to solder each to the most I do not want

Not the wrong word! For this, it is necessary to deprive tubers so that they do not give birth to such scumbags.
And also, it is necessary to screw up the parents of these hoopoes in full - it is they who are to blame for the fact that their children are like that.

[yak69]

All these excesses, the result of the lack of a coherent state ideology, or rather, its complete absence. This is called INSPIRATION!
And why be surprised if, when the youth asked Putin (at a meeting at Seliger) why the state does not care about cleanliness on television, he replied "and then they will not have a rating." Everyone understands ?! The main thing is the economic benefit !!!! From everything: from TV, from medicine, from education, from science.
An article about this is called: "Putin on the real reasons for the negative media"
http://politobzor.net/show-3507-putin-ob-istinnyh-prichinah-negativa-smi.html

[Very old]

Unfortunately, you can’t attach your head to them (can you?)

[Corsair]

Scourged for obscenity, and to hard labor (the question of hard labor was somehow raised, but everything "calmed down" )

[vladsolo56]

Why be indignant. As adults relate to memory, so is the younger generation. Only lazy people didn’t spit on Soviet history, that’s the result.

[DEMENTIY]

Yesterday, one wise guy demic cool banged!
Photo of captured Red Army soldiers under the escort of fascists and the inscription "UKRAINE JOINS NATO"

We set an example!

[Oskar]

Nightmare ... I look at them and I can not understand what kind of rubbish can be in the heads of people capable of performing such actions. Any words are not enough, they cannot express the emotions that arise in relation to these "people". I wonder if their ancestors fought? Probably they fought ... It's a shame for the Voinov, who shed blood for the very possibility of the existence of these unbelted youths. The verdict is too mild, in my opinion.

[O_RUS]

Quote: Oskar

I look at them and I can’t understand what kind of rubbish can be in the heads of people who are capable of such actions.

what parents, such and children

[Bosk]

This should not be news, it should be a system!, And secondly, I want to tell the desecrators to the guys ... Well, you guys got it, because almost every family has fighters and victims of the Great Patriotic War ... then you are there " resorts "on yourself you will find out what this is, desecration, but it does not seem cool to you, although if you think about it ... it is difficult to foresee the behavior of inadequate in an inadequate situation.

[Krsk]

Quote: Bosk

.that you are there at the "resorts" on yourself learn-

That is the pardon of this situation that none of them will visit the "resorts". One year at the "village" where he will sit with the same pigs that have committed accidents. Two to 1,5 years of restriction of freedom is generally a "transcendental punishment" after 22 at home ... And that's it ?! On 5 teriku KRASLAGA and count bounced ... Someone will say harshly? And I will say a little, but it will do ...

[aleksandr.k]

Ideally, each pool in the head and bury like dogs.

[novobranets]

Ideally, each pool in the head and bury like dogs.

Something like this, now the "rebels" in Syria are doing.

[DEMENTIY]

+ article and sentence!

And for you, Alexander is a question! Will you perform "a bullet in the head" yourself or ask whom will you?

[Hudo]

Quote: DEMENTIY

And for you, Alexander is a question! Will you perform "a bullet in the head" yourself or ask whom will you?

And why on earth are you interested in? Is it possible to give the geeks candy so that they do not worry much? You hide your pity a little deeper - it looks disgusting.

[DEMENTIY]

And why on earth are you interested in?

But how to shoot the first - then you will find out.

[Hudo]

Why are you poking? Somehow, I don’t remember that you and I from one pot were eating pearl barley. Or is rudeness your only way of proving the correctness of your own views?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: aleksandr.k

Ideally, each pool in the head and bury like dogs

For the 37 year - rightly so. For 2013 - too harsh.
The secret of upbringing lies in the tale of A.S. Pushkin "About the priest and his worker Balda": "And Balda beat him, but sentenced him with reproach ..." So, read the classics!

[Hudo]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

For the 37 year - rightly so. For 2013 - too harsh.

I forgot what such an extraordinary and sentimental happened in 1937 from R.Kh. Do not deign to remind.

[lewerlin53rus]

This is the omission of their parents. The child is raised primarily in the family. And if there every day they hear their parents blaspheming, blaspheming the Soviet past, scamming the country, or even just not saying anything aimed at patriotism, then such individuals grow that can dance on the bones of their ancestors

[novobranets]

I agree. "... educate yourself, because your children will be like you."

[Very old]

SPECIALS. It is individuals

[Delink]

After the collapse of the USSR, amers instilled in us other values. As a result, now we get what we were striving for. Freedom and publicity. If you remember the 90s, but they all remember, then it is not surprising that the street became an educator for many.

[Very old]

IGOR, find Allen Dulles on the Internet. Since then, nothing has changed in USA policy.

[vitas]

It infuriates such courage, it’s good that not all youth are like that, otherwise we have no future.

[soldier's grandson]

it is a product of democratic education in schools

[APASUS]

Quote: Soldier's grandson

it is a product of democratic education in schools

A new group has appeared trying to change the "strategy of childhood", a very good start, though I don't really believe in their success. After all, they are dealing with an official-businessman, and education is a business !!
The business of retired ministers to their children and brothers.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: soldier's grandson

it is a product of democratic education in schools

The school gives knowledge and preaches "values", and RAISES THE FAMILY! Remember this and make your family (cell of the state) an unshakable fortress of moral values ​​of OUR SLAVIC CIVILIZATION!
There are heights that cannot be surrendered!

[Very old]

Sasha, save the family.

[APASUS]

Maybe I will express not quite typical opinion but nevertheless:
I would give them 3 years of probation and 5000 hours of work to care for this burial.
Let the flowers planted snow removed, sweep the trash and let at least one complaint, they immediately go to try the balance.

[Hudo]

Quote: APASUS

I would give them 3 years of probation and 5000 hours of work to care for this burial.

Not that! As soon as the person controlling the execution of work is turned away, they bastards will spit on the monument immediately! Let me better spit in the face, and not at the monument. The dead will not be able to answer, I - can so that neither spit nor whistle until the end of life can.

[APASUS]

Quote: Hudo

As soon as the person controlling the execution of work is turned away, they bastards will spit on the monument immediately!

Do not spit. These are children of a modern formation raised by money.
They understand only money and power! Calling them to conscience or respect for their ancestors is useless, they can only be held back by fear of a trip to Siberia.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: soldier's grandson

it is a product of democratic education in schools

and the media including - military-patriotic films are shown only on major holidays and then selectively. These kinder surprises have not seen the film "It was in the intelligence" and others showing the war with a "childish face", when teenagers fought against Hitlerism in the same ranks with adults and also died ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

still to carve in the central square, and parents to a shameful pillar

[Zhenya]

In perfect! Sich and that was broadcasted throughout the whole of Rosa. , there a million soldiers gave their soul to God in order to educate these geeks.

[sasha.28blaga]

spread on the Internet, as they say wedge wedge

[lewerlin53rus]

And conduct a course of lectures on patriotic education and watching Soviet classics dedicated to the Second World War. And all at the expense of parents

[dmit-xnumx]

- In addition to the Soviet classics, there could also be (film) "We are from the Future", there are also educational moments there.

[Hudo]

Quote: dmit-52

- In addition to the Soviet classics, there could also be (film) "We are from the Future", there are also educational moments there.

Films of such gnaws can not be re-educated. If they do not respect, then let them be afraid, but in order to be afraid, they must be given not for a year and a half.

[valerii41]

However, you are a dreamer. Parents are clearly drunks, the gyrus is jammed with somersaults so that there are no volunteers to read lectures, the main path to the garbage containers was chosen

[alone]

let them not forget those who walk the streets with a swastika and zygitsya at a meeting. These Nazis are worse than these brainless

[valerii41]

Those who walk with the swastika will not do such things, this is another parameter. In Georgia, in Armenia ,,,,, Japan does not go with a swastika, and nationalist states

[clip07]

50 lashes to everyone and show in the news, so that it would be disgraceful for others ...

[tilovaykrisa]

Well, at least not a conditional sentence was given, there will be time to think (if there is anything) about their actions.

[Apollo]

Look at these creatures, not only have they defiled, they also photographed and laid out in YouTube

[does it]

Quote: Apollon

Look at these creatures, not only have they defiled, they also photographed and laid out in YouTube

Creatures as creatures (all that is alive on earth are creatures) are affected by a lack of respect for the fallen, and it is not liberals who are to blame, but the current government with its beautiful propaganda of life, it is necessary to open more stadiums! Rather than close and crush with the subsequent construction of outlets.

[valerii41]

The country was turned into stalls, painted beauties with boyfriends and luxurious cars are being driven on TV. Suffering singers with their divorces and mass shooting with one standard scene, a superhero and a disgusting villain under trailers of pistols are leading a business "bazaar", two hate a noble and a villain. These teenagers are no more than 15 years old, parents drink vodka, or divorced gather in flocks nearby. teachers who have 3-4 trips to the zone. The authorities are very busy with bribes, kickbacks with all sorts of diasporas reported to the people "PLANTED" and increased the number of criminals. Gather abandoned teenagers to attach teachers of physical education, mathematics, physics, and tell them men to survive in the forest. After the forest of all the cadet corps, the number of candidates for criminals will sharply decrease. In Rome, during the time of Cicero, the lawyer himself chose whom to defend, because he put his life on the barrel together with the accused, in the event of a loss, both were sewn into a lamb skin and thrown into the Tiber River. The billionaire lawyers were few. In Russia, a swindler is being taken to court, a lawyer gathers journalists, they bring to us about procedural violations, the illegality of the arrest, crystal honesty "PRE-TRIAL" In democratic Russia, there are a lot of billionaire lawyers. This is also seen by teenagers, a psychological breakdown occurs here

[valerii41]

I apologize not for the 15 year old teens, but for the very conscious boobies brought up with us. While the oligarchs divided Russia, an incomprehensible tribe grew up. Four years ago, a military registration and enlistment office with the police caught a neighbor's patriot in the army. I showed interest in catching a lot of patriots? It turned out to be a big secret. For an hour I explained, well, give the atomic bomb, will they whip at a dose, or will they smash your bomb where you throw it? Get into the river poison all fish, and the fishermen will scare you for a long time will curse you

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Apollon

Look at these creatures

By my naivety, I thought that as always: they waved a glass, tore off the roof ... HERE HOLINESS! YOU NEED TO PUNISH FOR THIS! THIS CANCER CELLS ON THE BODY OF THE PEOPLE!
You bastards, they also packed all this with imported music! In the creature! Scum!

[alone]

it would be something to think, this would not have been done.

[bistrov.]

Obscene actions of young people have become possible due to the lack of military-patriotic and physical education, a huge saturation of the media with examples promoting the cult of violence, crime and unearned enrichment, a parasitic lifestyle, alcoholism and drug addiction. Look at these pimply pop stars. Yes, in Soviet times, such would not even be taken as a watchman in the most seedy collective farm. And now he or she grimaces on stage under obscene movements, shaking unwashed shoes, rowing money with a shovel and the same "youth" loudly applauding him. It is necessary to return the Soviet system of educating young people, to make them work, to reconsider the policy in relation to all "shows" and their participants, films should teach good and kind things, otherwise they should simply not be allowed to be shown. Then, maybe in 20 years, there will be no cases of vandalism and similar phenomena. In the meantime, alas, these are all the results of the so-called "reforms", when in the post-Soviet space the socialist economy and the systems serving it were destroyed and wild capitalism with all its "charms" was restored.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: bistrov.

due to the lack of military-patriotic and physical education,

Respected! Watch how they roll somersaults and somersaults with a turn on 90 *.
huge saturation of the media with propaganda examples
To return the media to the fold of state policy is the business of our government: Parliament and the President. If this is not done, then we will not see victory on the ideological front. The question is: who does not understand this? Ahn, nothing is being done! So it turns out - the people demand one thing, and the authorities do the other ...
But are they really servants of the people !?

[Seraph]

I summarize the softest suggestions for the education of Gopniks:
1. It is publicly to carve on the main square of Rzhev (in advance throughout the city post ads with the date, place and name of the characters)
2.5000 hours of community service, without payment. Work carried out in a special form, like a camp; 10 hours a day; in the most crowded places of the city; the guard with the dog so that they do not run away; for the attempt - shackles.
3. For parents - a fine (how much is spelled out in the legislation?) And monthly deductions from the salary for the grocery maintenance of the corrected and salary guard.
4. In universities, do not accept civil service, restrict rights for 5 years, prohibit registration and employment in million-plus cities.
5. For life not to travel abroad.
6. Faces on the city "wall of shame".
7.News to turn the week on central TV, so that such naughty people diminished.

[does it]

Quote: Seraphim

.News turn the week on central TV, so that such naughty people diminished.

Most likely it will increase. We have such time now.

[Hudo]

Quote: kvirit

Most likely it will increase. We have such time now.

Maybe it will increase, at first. Then, if you do not stop, it will immediately decrease.

[Evgeniy46]

The worst thing is that in the corresponding article of the Criminal Code, they will give the maximum - 3 of the year

[alone]

I would send them to uranium mines for 3 years. It would be a lesson for the rest

[valerii41]

In uranium mines they don’t wave Kyle, there are high-tech equipment, to sell watermelons on the market

[Sour]

Our legislation is soft ... too soft. Unacceptably soft.
Close these freaks for 5 years, no less. And no discounts on snotty age. And then all these jerks sincerely consider themselves adults. Try to call them kids - offended. So let them answer in an adult way. And seriously, about 5 years of general treatment plus a fine.
The cormorants are 18, 19, 21. I had three dozen subordinates at the age of 19. And at the age of 21 he was already thinking about the first divorce. So the age for tough sanctions is completely nothing.

[shinobi]

The fact of the matter is that these kids are not accustomed to work with their brains and vryatli even understood what they got the term for. They just "lost it" and did not mean anything like that.

[Sour]

Well, once in 20 years the brain does not work, then it will not work even at 40. Then one reasonable way out is to shoot. But this is not humane. But 5 years of imprisonment is the norm. And it is desirable, at the stage of investigation and trial, in one cell with the "roosters". Although this is not spelled out in the code, but ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: shinobi

.They were just "bastard" and did not mean anything like that.

A sort of innocent naivety! Then a logical question arises: And who should explain these algae. that they owe everything to those SOLDIERS who laid their young lives on the altar of the Fatherland, so that their mothers would give birth to such children who, in essence, abused the HOLY - the grateful memory of the people about their sons, who had completely fulfilled their military duty.
And what did they mean when they sneered at the memorial? French "Region 13"? PARKUR on GRAVES even GUARDS would not forgive their misbegotten ones!

[Corsair]

Quote: shinobi

The fact of the matter is that these kids are not accustomed to work with their brains and vryatli even understood what they got the term for. They just "lost it" and did not mean anything like that.

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[fluke]

It is necessary to castrate, so that their own kind is not born.

[rks5317]

The grandparents of the Kazarlitsky and Berlizovs, who were destined for Auschwitz and the Buchenwalds, were saved by the RUSSIAN soldiers ... And their descendants shit in holy places ... Yes, a short historical memory of some peoples ...

[shinobi]

Breaking properly, and for obligatory work, wash public toilets. Clean mortuaries, departments unclaimed. I think a month is enough for the eyes.






flax

[does it]

Quote: shinobi

for compulsory work, wash public toilets. Morgues to clean, departments unclaimed.

I agree with that.

[V. Tarasyan]

At this age, our grandfathers took up arms and went to defend their homeland. And these ...

[novobranets]

In my family, four people did not return from the front. The youngest of them was eighteen. For the sake of experiment, he showed the video to his daughter (no comment), to see the reaction. She's twenty-three. "What are they ... doing?" Was the answer. So all the same, not all our young people are like that. Thank God. And at the expense of the verdict, they gave it right, but to go too far, giving ten years in my opinion is not worth it.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: novobranets

but go too far, giving ten years in my opinion is not worth it.

The prison didn’t do any better. What is needed is different: in order to reach the place where the brain should be located, what is HOLY, which no one is allowed to make fun of. This HOLY need to love more than your life. Raise it in their children and strictly monitor the ubiquitous performance on the ground. Then there will remain the soul of the people, the moral values ​​of Russian civilization. Then THIRD ROME will remain.

[Arabist]

The prison, of course, did no better than anyone, for they are not being corrected there, but are serving their sentences. Probably still better forced labor. And the Third Rome is doomed to stay because the Fourth Rome will not happen.

[saha471]

[quote = Apollon] [quote = Hon]Me like a lawyer becomes anxious from the increased number of illegal sentences, this is chaos. [/ quote]

Lawyer, journalist, prostitute - all in one row. If there are no remains under the memorial plaque, then it is possible to arrange parkour there? A normal person will say NO! And the "lawyer" will say, it is necessary to look at the code of laws. And he will turn the bastard so that these little guys will also be given a prize for dexterity. THIS IS RUNNING !!!! Lawlessness, dear LAWYER, is that everything is allowed that is not NAPIMSANO in the law. And there is a brain, but there is morality, but there is a conscience? Or should a lawyer not have such functions? Do they interfere with professional growth? Roast a live cat in the microwave and demand a million from the manufacturer for not writing in the instructions "you can't dry animals"? These are the "lawyers" who won the process, and ......... paid a lemon. We laugh that in America this is possible. But she's not a fool, she's just scum. I calculated everything perfectly. And relied on LAWYERS, sir.
The fewer such legalists, the more sane the justice will be.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: saha471

Lawyer, journalist, prostitute, all in one row.

Namesake! Lawyer - servant of the LAW. HE can not break out of the LAW. The jury trial is another matter! BUT! The civil position of judges (and lawyers) has not been canceled!
Journalists are a special caste; they trade their conscience as "priestesses of love" with their bodies. Moreover, they always justify their position by "freedom of view on the subject of the dispute," or by their journalistic position.

But she’s not a Fool, she’s just scum.

[Apollo]

Dear visitors. I deleted some of the comments in this thread. The reason for the emotions is going through the roof. Write more correctly.

Regards Apollo

[valerii41]

Read Gogol, especially one paragraph about the Russian language. I never delete comments, I am not a judge. People give an assessment to the comments, and everyone eats according to your Azerbaijani flag, you need to be more modest among Russians

[lewerlin53rus]

We are all residents of one country, unfortunately destroyed by traitors. Therefore, there is no difference between the citizens of Russia, Azerbaijan, Armenia and the rest. All is required of one, to comply with the rules of the site.

[Alex 241]

I read the news from May 23 and was numb! In Togliatti, LGBT activists laid condoms at the Eternal Flame.

Last Sunday in Togliatti, a group of young people, believe me, does not dare to call them citizens, at the Eternal Flame in honor of those who fell in the Great Patriotic War, they honored their memory, there are not heroic countrymen who defeated the fascists, but famous people who died of AIDS. In particular, the leader of the Queen group Freddie Mercury and other famous people were honored.

The choice of a place for such a memory action itself is shocking, but after it became known that these activists, in whom local residents identified the Togliatti LGBT get-together, put condoms in a bowl in front of the portraits and the Eternal Flame, it is difficult to feel the attitude to them anything else, except disgust. My opinion for such acts to roll in real terms! Write out a life-long "wolf" ticket, so that these scum would have a pick and a shovel.

[builder]

This topic was discussed on the site.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Alex 241

in a bowl that these activists put in front of the portraits and the Eternal Flame, in which local residents recognized the Togliatti LGBT party, put condoms on, it’s hard to feel anything else besides them

I have a question for the Togliatti people: what, MUZHIKOV is no longer among you? In the face they have no one to give? Oh you! On your own land you don’t consider yourself masters, you cannot bring some perverts to the meridian.
I am sure that our guys from the Department of Internal Affairs would support you.
I am not a reactionary, and I would not say a word if these creatures had performed their ritual somewhere in their vile temple. But to desecrate the ETERNAL FIRE with portraits of those killed for the Fatherland is the height of blasphemy.

[valerii41]

If for these people over 18 there is a need for article 244 on all counts, it is necessary to raise the term to 10 years, or maybe more, since they will fall into their native element. The table set is simple with a spoon, a mug, a bowl, cocks only cope with holes. There is no eternal flame, but you can always light a fire. The same people are in the zone, friendship is stronger, and good guarantees from any infection

[darksoul]

one more geeks .. that a lot of these are becoming ... who are these deb ... silts and most importantly how are they raising and educating? where do they get into the light

[igor_ua.]

I’m all thinking: haven’t there really been / will not be anyone in Rzhev who just picked up and filled their faces? Before serving, after serving - it does not matter.
PS
Of course, you can stuff their faces in - you can "sit down" yourself, but if you approach the task wisely, you can physically punish them so that there will be no corpus delicti ...

[Vlaleks48]

Now the spears are breaking about the freaks who defiled The memory of those who died for their homeland! The court quietly went and went. And they will remain freaks! There will still be a stench from the liberals, how the children were condemned!
It would be simpler to flog publicly in a public place, so that it would be disgraceful and today it would be more effective than all these courts! And flogging the Internet for further glorification!

[Prapor Afonya]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

They didn’t give much, I had to solder everyone for the most I do not want others to start thinking with their head.

Well, I don’t know about the criminal punishment, but I won’t have to dump concrete ones, moreover, with my feet and hands! The criminal investigation has not led many to the true path, but specific pees ... for many have been taught life!

[Vtel]

Here they are the fruits of liberal power, when everything is possible and they have nothing sacred. It is terrible for the souls of these people, but God is patient and punishes when he counts. Sooner they rejoice 1.5 years they say not a term, but what about eternity in ADU. God direct them to let them be true, so that they do not die at all, which cannot be said about their ancestors - by this they will answer twice to God and to those who perished for their carefree fat life.

[shpuntik]

As established by the court and the investigation, four young people who love parkour,

Here is a good place for parkour, the area of ​​the Kolyma River: at the same time, gold is mined for the country. Only a year is not enough, economically unprofitable. For five years it is necessary to plant, and instead of the fourth, if "small" still, then let the parent work out for him, he also raised him.

[pogis]

Nits! You must press such!

[pogis]

Some kind of pubic lice egg put a minus!

[dropout]

Two days ago, we discussed an article on literacy. So the actions of these people and others like them to a large extent depend on their literacy. I do not mean the ability to write without errors. Literacy is exactly that with a capital letter, it implies mastering the largest possible mass of human culture This, of course, depends on the presence of brains, the environment, and upbringing. So, they didn’t get any kind of upbringing. They didn’t even imagine that having organized their games at the memorial, they commit a crime against society and the memory of those to whom they owe their existence. Although not knowledge I’m not exempt from laws. I represent the reaction of the parents: -Ah, they are so good, WE could not assume ..........., etc. I won’t blame them. But until we return everything that we have lost over the past thirty years (I didn’t make a reservation, this whore began even earlier with Nikita) we will not be able to save the Motherland and our children.

[Rico1977]

Guys, please vote for the Kolomna Kremlin at 10russia dot ru You can vote 10 times, but it seems that on different days. Please help the guys - you will see - it is very necessary. it's about the miracles of Russia - well bl .. I don’t want the mosque in Grozny to be the main miracle of Russia. No offense to the Chechens said - served with them (excellent soldiers).

[Vladimir 9322]

Twenty years of criminal feudal capitalism and get the product fresh. Liberalism And dibilization of the whole country. On this path, Russia will go to the world's dustbin of history. "If you want to defeat the enemy, raise his children." ... Nathaniel Rothschild.

[12345]

LIFETIME scrub public toilets to mirror shine.

[Ilya Mikhalych]

Morons. There are no other words.

[Roman_999]

Here it is the lost generation of the 90 years, for which, for various reasons, almost no one cared for a quarter of a century, a generation born on the ruins of the Greatest Power, people who do not know and do not want to know the Stories of their Homeland, which does not have God in their hearts. These are only flowers, fruits - to reap the same to us ...

Russia has been rising and recovering from more difficult situations, I think we will pass this stage with honor. The dirt of lies and pain is already enough for my Motherland, it is time to live in my Country, with my head and my resources. We - deserve it for a long time and I think the time has come ...
Thank you.

[Darth Revan]

Or maybe abuse these? Send, say, to Amsterdam, in the same place 3,14s a dime a dozen! But seriously, sell everyone for ten years and to the Kolyma! There was already a comment, even with a photo of the "recreation area" for such idiots.

[Snoop]

They would tear off their legs, at the same time as their parents, if such morons were brought up.

[georg737577]

Let them sit. God forbid, someone else will lower his pants in the zone (I think it will), let them remember with their ass how they do not love their homeland.

[Anat1974]

I am killed under Rzhev,
In an unchanged swamp,
In the fifth company, on the left,
With a cruel raid.
I did not hear the rupture,
I did not see that flash, -
Like a precipice from a cliff -
And neither the bottom nor the tires.
And in all this world,
Until the end of his days,
Neither loops, nor crochets
From my tunic.
And it’s more our fault. What goes around comes around. Have mother or father ever read to them these verses of Twardowski? Yes, probably NEVER. We grow b.dlo, and then we are surprised.

[tixon444]

I read the comments to the end. It is a shame for some reason ... Parkour instead of the military-patriotic club. Is there such a club in Rzhev? In a city of military glory, awarded the Order of the Patriotic War I degree? And what have the city administration and the public done and are doing for the patriotic education of youth? Every year they paint a memorial to the fallen Soviet soldiers and that’s all? But what, have all the dead soldiers been found and reburied in mass graves? Under Rzhev, where The losses of the Red Army on the Rzhev bridgehead amounted to more than a million people? ..

I am where the roots are blind
They look for food in the darkness;
I am where with a cloud of dust
Rye walks on a hill;
I'm where the cry of a cock
At dawn the dew;
I - where are your cars
The air is torn on the highway;
Where a blade of grass to a blade of grass
The grass river spins, -
There, where at the wake
Even the mother will not come.

[Spike]

“Russians cannot be defeated, we have seen this for hundreds of years. But Russians can instill false values, and then they will defeat themselves ”- Otto von Bismarck

[viazma]

Young and stupid? Such young people died during the war years, and these mockers. Little given!

[55uaka]

The other day, I accidentally stumbled upon a site for checking fines in the traffic police, and by the way there you can dispute and pay online. For example, for 2 days I challenged 3 fines for a total of about 17 rubles. try it yourself, here is the link to the service - polis.2sms.ru

[valerii41]

The son-in-law brought his grandson to kindergarten, took him away in the evening, the grandson turns to his dad "YOU STINKY GOAT I WILL BREAK YOUR HORNS" to go to kindergarten like a prison. On this occasion, the parents gathered, the offspring gave out a thug culture, and demanded to remove this boy ............... ???????

[Ivanovich47]

The antics of these youngsters indicate large gaps in the education of the current young generation. What can we talk about if just recently the word “patriot” was almost a dirty word! Now the situation is improving a little, but problems remain. Our (foreign, of course) media play a great influence on the duping of young people. Banditry, atrocities, cruelty filled the niches of television screens. Home-grown “analysts” relish the questions of the “guilt” of the USSR, along with Germany, in starting the 2nd World War. In the wake of this lawlessness, the young generation of our country is left to the mercy of fate. I don't want to see everything in dark colors. We have worthy young people. But the fact that it is necessary to sharply intensify the educational impact on the younger generation is an undoubted fact!

[VladUrich]

They should be sentenced not to a restriction of freedom, but to a restriction of movement, even if these morally disabled people parkour in wheelchairs or in hospital beds. Since they have problems with their brains.

[valerii41]

It’s good that these stupid people are not from rich families. There is hope that they will become wiser by the age of 40, or maybe by 60, if they survive. Now there are fewer such fools, because I work with young people, and those under 50 are old alcoholic starters

[stalker]

Scum!! nothing is sacred to them, they sniff a beer cap and pervert as best they can, but this also depends on the parents, upbringing is instilled from the cradle, so to speak.

[1961NNN]

We are reaping the fruits of lack of ideas and moral deformity...pay attention to the ages of 18, 19, 21 years...and what does this case have to do with not the only missed generation!,

[studentmati]

Persons involved in the desecration of a military memorial in Rzhev convicted

I think it is right to issue tickets for the “non-smoking carriage” to the parents of the convicted and to everyone who passively observed what was happening.

[Colonelic]

Quote: APASUS

Maybe I’ll express a not entirely typical opinion, but still: I would give them a suspended sentence of 3 years and 5000 hours of work to take care of this burial. Let them plant flowers, remove snow, sweep away garbage, and let them have at least one complaint, and they’ll immediately go and try the gruel.

Dear APASUS!
Let me disagree with your proposal!
To my mind, These scumbags are unworthy of caring for the graves of Soviet soldierswho fell in the struggle for the freedom and independence of our Fatherland...
First, let them sit and think carefully, maybe one of them God will give, and will come to his senses.
However, I believe that the hope for such an outcome is, unfortunately, extremely small...

[FormerMariman]

These bastards didn't know that:
Rzhev-Vyazemsk operation (January 8 - April 20, 1942):
irretrievable losses of the Red Army - 272320 people,
sanitary - 504569 people,
total - 776889 people.
Rzhev-Sychevsk operation (July 30 - August 23, 1942):
irretrievable losses of 51482 people,
sanitary - 142201 people,
total -193383 people.
Rzhev-Vyazemsk operation (March 2-31, 1943):
irretrievable losses - 38862 people,
sanitary - 99715 people,
total - 138577 people.
In all three operations:
irretrievable losses - 362664 people,
sanitary - 746485 people,
total - 1109149 people.
Marshal of the Soviet Union V.G. Kulikov, a participant in these events, named the approximate figure for the total losses of the Red Army on the Rzhev Bulge - 2 million 60 thousand people.
What will happen in 30-40 years? In general, they will not know that there was such a war and the feat of the Soviet people, not to mention the monuments and obelisks!

[FormerMariman]

These bastards didn't know that:
Rzhev-Vyazemsk operation (January 8 - April 20, 1942):
irretrievable losses of the Red Army - 272320 people,
sanitary - 504569 people,
total - 776889 people.
Rzhev-Sychevsk operation (July 30 - August 23, 1942):
irretrievable losses of 51482 people,
sanitary - 142201 people,
total -193383 people.
Rzhev-Vyazemsk operation (March 2-31, 1943):
irretrievable losses - 38862 people,
sanitary - 99715 people,
total - 138577 people.
In all three operations:
irretrievable losses - 362664 people,
sanitary - 746485 people,
total - 1109149 people.
Marshal of the Soviet Union V.G. Kulikov, a participant in these events, named the approximate figure for the total losses of the Red Army on the Rzhev Bulge - 2 million 60 thousand people.
What will happen in 30-40 years? In general, they will not know that there was such a war and the feat of the Soviet people, not to mention the monuments and obelisks!