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Persons involved in the desecration of a military memorial in Rzhev convicted

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The Rzhev city court on Friday sentenced 21-year-old Nikolai Sergeyev, 19-year-old Mikhail Berlizov and 18-year-old Nikita Kazaritsky, who were accused of desecrating a memorial to Soviet soldiers in Rzhev, said the court spokesman Elena Smirnova.


All three were found guilty of committing a crime stipulated by the article of the Criminal Code of Russia “Desecration of burial grounds and gravestones by a group of persons by prior agreement”, ITAR-TASS reports.

Sergeyev was sentenced to one year of imprisonment in a penal colony, Berlizova and Kazaritsky were sentenced to restriction of liberty on 1,5 each year.

As established by the court and the investigation, four young people, parkour lovers, one of whom did not reach the age of criminal responsibility at that time, used the Soviet soldiers who died during the liberation of Rzhev from the Nazi invaders to jump with elements of the acrobatics of the Obelisk plate.

At the same time, two of them committed indecent acts. All this was recorded on a video camera and placed on the Web.

The monument “Obelisk to Soviet soldiers”, including the Eternal Flame and fraternal burial places, belongs to the objects of historical and cultural heritage of federal significance.

Rzhev, the city-front on the closest approaches to Moscow, was given a special role during the war years: on the Rzhev bridgehead in 150 km from the capital, Soviet troops did not allow the fascists to make the last dash to the capital and deploy forces of the Army Group Center to Stalingrad to help the group Paulus Losses of the Red Army on the Rzhev bridgehead amounted to more than a million people.
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 17 August 2013 07: 33 New
    44
    They didn’t give much, I had to solder everyone for the most I do not want others to start thinking with their head.
    1. Apollo
      17 August 2013 07: 42 New
      20
      244 Article. Abuse of the bodies of the dead and their places of burial

      [Criminal Code of the Russian Federation] [Chapter 25] [Article 244]

      1. Violation of the bodies of the dead or the destruction, damage or desecration of burial places, gravestones or cemetery buildings intended for ceremonies in connection with the burial of the dead or their commemoration, -

      shall be punishable by a fine in the amount of up to forty thousand rubles or in the amount of the convict's wages or other income for a period of up to three months, or by compulsory labor for a term of up to three hundred and sixty hours, or by correctional labor for a term of up to one year, or by arrest for a term of up to three months.

      2. The same acts committed:

      a) by a group of persons, by a group of persons by prior agreement or by an organized group;

      b) for reasons of political, ideological, racial, national or religious hatred or enmity or for hatred or enmity with respect to any social group, as well as with respect to a sculptural, architectural structure dedicated to the fight against fascism or the victims of fascism, or burial places participants in the fight against fascism;

      c) with the use of violence or with the threat of its use, -

      shall be punishable by restraint of liberty for a term of up to three years, or forced labor for a term of up to five years, or by arrest for a term of three to six months, or by imprisonment for a term of up to five years.

      not only they gave little, in my opinion, the sanction indicated in the article should be increased, because the maximum punishment is up to five years, to make 10 so that others are not accustomed.

      Good morning Alexander hi
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 17 August 2013 08: 31 New
        45
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        They didn’t give much, I had to solder each to the most I do not want

        Quote: Apollon
        not only gave little, in my opinion the sanction indicated in the article should be increased

        Sasha, Apollo, hi ! This grandfather solved similar problems with the “golden” youth by his own methods, I can say, quite effectively ..
        1. VARCHUN
          VARCHUN 19 October 2013 13: 16 New
          0
          I completely agree, at one time I can shoot for 9-14 years for criminality and everyone knew and was afraid of it. What is 1 year is not for those who would have done to them in China? And I’ll tell you, they would show on TV, but in another format.
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        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 17 August 2013 10: 00 New
          +3
          sometimes you need to think
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            1. Apollo
              17 August 2013 10: 44 New
              +5
              Quote: Hon
              Me like a lawyer it becomes alarming from the increased number of illegal sentences; this is lawlessness.


              and therefore you have 3 warnings .........?! winked Another minus.
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              2. Arabist
                Arabist 17 August 2013 17: 17 New
                10
                As a lawyer, I am ashamed of such colleagues.
                1. Very old
                  Very old 17 August 2013 17: 45 New
                  +1
                  Thank you, Andrey. You all have lost
            2. builder
              builder 17 August 2013 11: 53 New
              0
              Why bother all in one pile.
            3. Edward72
              Edward72 17 August 2013 12: 21 New
              17
              But I’m worried that there are more and more such lawyers.
              1. Very old
                Very old 17 August 2013 14: 10 New
                +2
                Eddie, I'm not surprised. The sons of lawyers and the lawyers themselves
                1. Edward72
                  Edward72 17 August 2013 17: 14 New
                  +1
                  Valentine after this is sad at heart.
            4. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 17 August 2013 13: 09 New
              11
              Quote: Hon
              Me like a lawyer

              you don’t advertise it much, otherwise they’ll laugh
              Quote: Hon
              Is this memorial a burial place? If not, then the verdict is generally illegal!

              244 Article. Abuse of the bodies of the dead and their places of burial

              1. Violation of the bodies of the dead or the destruction, damage or desecration of burial places, gravestones or cemetery buildings intended for ceremonies in connection with the burial of the dead or their commemoration, -
              shall be punished by a fine in the amount of from fifty to one hundred minimum wages or in the amount of the convict's wages or other income for a period of up to one month, or by compulsory labor for a term of one hundred twenty to one hundred eighty hours, or by corrective labor for a term of up to one year, or arrest for up to three months.
              2. The same acts committed:
              a) by a group of persons, by a group of persons by prior agreement or by an organized group;
              b) based on national, racial, religious hatred or enmity, as well as in relation to the sculptural, architectural structure dedicated to the fight against fascism or the victims of fascism, or burial places of participants in the fight against fascism;
              c) with the use of violence or with the threat of its use - shall be punishable by restriction of liberty for a term of up to three years, or arrest for a term of from three to six months, or imprisonment for a term of up to three years.

              spawned lawyers in which even the brain does not have enough to re-read the law and delve into, not to mention, what would be kept in mind
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          2. builder
            builder 17 August 2013 11: 52 New
            +3
            Always think
        2. Apollo
          17 August 2013 10: 42 New
          11
          Quote: Hon
          Hon (3) Today, 09: 47 ↑
          Is this memorial a burial place? If not, then the verdict is generally illegal!



          Hooligans defiling a war memorial convicted in Rzhev
          16.08.2013 | Source: Pravda.Ru


          In Rzhev, a hearing was held on the case of the desecration of the main war memorial of Rzhev - the Obelisk of Glory on Cathedral Hill, which is also the mass grave of the dead participants in the Second World War.

          http://www.pravda.ru/news/districts/16-08-2013/1170290-mogila-0/

          Especially for you, highlighted the last sentence. Minus.
        3. Albert1988
          Albert1988 17 August 2013 11: 26 New
          16
          Excuse me, comrade, but insulting the monument to soldiers who fell for their homeland should be punished regardless of whether it is a burial place or not, this is my personal opinion, especially since this particular memorial is it!
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            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 17 August 2013 13: 15 New
              +1
              Listen, read the law, if you studied shitty, so at least now, before you write nonsense, read what you talk about
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              1. alone
                alone 17 August 2013 14: 36 New
                +2
                and spitting is not sorry for such a mug?
                1. Very old
                  Very old 17 August 2013 15: 07 New
                  +2
                  They suddenly felt sorry for themselves ... Are you people?
        4. Tersky
          Tersky 17 August 2013 12: 05 New
          19
          Quote: Hon
          Is this memorial a burial place? If not, then the verdict is generally illegal!

          Damn, wherever you spit - only Padva around. Have you read the news carefully? Monument "Obelisk to Soviet soldiers", including the Eternal Flame and mass graves .. Those. to these protrusions according to Art. 244 of the Criminal Code shone until five years. WWII memorials are monuments in gratitude to all the soldiers who died and went missing while protecting our Motherland and its interests, in practice realizing the slogan "Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten", also serves as a reminder to posterity who brought their lives to the altar of victory for their sake today. The descendants "thanked" .... the pigs .. "Lawyer" - MINUS
          1. Very old
            Very old 17 August 2013 14: 31 New
            +4
            Tersky Victor, my indignation overwhelms me. It doesn’t fit into my head - are it our people? I am the last of the men, then the last name stalls. And who is happy?
            1. VARCHUN
              VARCHUN 19 October 2013 13: 23 New
              0
              Whoever studied and remembers the Soviet Union, he wouldn’t do such a thing, but the dwellers who didn’t instill it do that.
          2. Very old
            Very old 17 August 2013 17: 29 New
            +1
            Vitenka, they want to destroy us. And try mine And forever and ever
          3. VARCHUN
            VARCHUN 19 October 2013 13: 22 New
            0
            And who else besides the normal ones knows the story of more than 1000 people in less than a year. There, the whole earth is saturated with blood, and the Russian judging for lawyers generally mopcha, a year in the colony. It’s just not a shaky Russian stupidity.
        5. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 17 August 2013 13: 22 New
          +7
          Quote: Hon
          as well as in relation to the sculptural, architectural structure dedicated to the fight against fascism or the victims of fascism

          Lawyers carefully study the Criminal Code
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 17 August 2013 13: 24 New
            0
            not one I re-read the article
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          3. Very old
            Very old 17 August 2013 14: 33 New
            +2
            In the Kolyma. In the Kolyma. To make it easier to understand
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 17 August 2013 18: 21 New
              +1
              I can take to my re-education, I need to bring hay from the field
            2. valerii41
              valerii41 18 August 2013 07: 02 New
              +2
              Dad and mom didn’t bring up the house. Kolyma can't fix the hunchback’s grave. Kolyma is Russia and there’s nothing to do to the bastards
          4. Very old
            Very old 17 August 2013 17: 34 New
            0
            Teddy, not a horse feed
        6. Very old
          Very old 17 August 2013 14: 04 New
          +5
          Listen, Mr. Lord, there are still photos from that war in our family. Dry, brittle ... And very expensive
        7. antiaircrafter
          antiaircrafter 17 August 2013 14: 32 New
          +2
          Quote: Hon
          Is this memorial a burial place?

          Is an.
          Monument "Obelisk to Soviet soldiers", including the Eternal Flame and mass graves
      3. valerii41
        valerii41 17 August 2013 13: 40 New
        0
        This is our future officials.
      4. waisson
        waisson 18 August 2013 22: 25 New
        0
        I’ll interrupt and tell you the pile. I may not be right for guys aged 18-19 where patriotic education is if they study but if not enter an article for parasitism as people in the USSR do not want to work, then you need to be forced to work for the good of society and then there will be no bad thoughts in your head like so addiction and alcoholism
    2. krasin
      krasin 17 August 2013 07: 54 New
      -7
      And they gave it normally. Young stupid ones, they don’t have to cut off their lives. The main thing is that there is a rather severe punishment, 1,5, years of youth from life.
      1. Captain Vrungel
        Captain Vrungel 17 August 2013 08: 28 New
        30
        Well planted. So what. There will be more for one potential criminal. He is seized by convicts of "concepts" and will be released "with freedom" with the stigma of "convicts" and employment problems. It will be weak in spirit, will go to local primates.
        To revive the frontal place and to carve it in public without burrs with rods so that it would burn out of shame and a couple of weeks on the ass could not. Very educational measure and memorable until the end of days and also instant action.
        Revive and legitimize. Russian traditions must be observed. (if a Muslim, then not on the ass, but on the heels).
        1. builder
          builder 17 August 2013 11: 59 New
          +7
          so that it burns out of shame and a couple of weeks

          It would be good if their parents burned out of shame. Who brings up these Coves? I, in the place of their parents, (God forbid, of course) poured legs to such sons before the trial!
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 17 August 2013 13: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: stroitel
            . Who brings up these Coves?

            Unfortunately, parents do not think about what their offspring do on the street. And then howls begin ...
            In general, for the first time, you can solder public works for 200 hours and a fine, you look and wiser
            1. builder
              builder 17 August 2013 15: 03 New
              0
              - There, in this video, everything is not so scary, - tried to convince judge Valentina, mother of Nikolai Sergeyev. - They didn’t even spit there, they didn’t swear. Here in our village there was a monument to a soldier at a military burial place - it was already breathtaking. And then what? Well, some kind of obelisk ... A soldier is needed there!
              “They just fooled in front of the camera,” smiled Mikhail Larisa, mother of Mikhail Berlizov.
              - Have you ever taken your son, say, on Victory Day, to the obelisk, to the Eternal Flame, told about this place? asked the prosecutor.
              “It’s not customary in our family to go to the monuments,” Larisa continued to smile. - The guys did not want to defile anything, but, yes - they did wrong.

              “I think the verdict will be guilty,” Nikolai Sergeyev’s lawyer Oleg Salamatin admitted to me. - Probably they are given three years in prison with a suspended sentence of two years.
              “Don't be a lawyer, what would you do?”
              - Yes, they would clean their faces! But, work is work. Now I am their protector.
              Parkers threw out of the court in a crowd. They laughed, on their faces - serenity.

              krasin Today, 07:54 ↑
              And they gave it normally. Young stupid ones, they don’t have to cut off their lives. The main thing is that there is a rather severe punishment, 1,5, years of youth from life.

              - Guys, you in March, when the video broke on the Internet, repented, promised to hold a community work day at the obelisk, but you didn’t ... - honestly, I hoped to see remorse in them.
              In response, they laughed and, dancing, hugging the girls went for a walk along Rzhev ...


              Quotes from KP
              1. Boa kaa
                Boa kaa 17 August 2013 16: 57 New
                +5
                Quote: stroitel
                - Guys, you in March, when the video broke on the Internet, repented, promised to hold a community work day at the obelisk, but you didn’t ... - honestly, I hoped to see remorse in them.
                In response, they laughed and, dancing, hugging the girls went for a walk along Rzhev ...

                WHO REQUESTS? This is a shifter! The invaders will come, they will become KAPOs, they will hand over our people for soldering so that they themselves “go hugging with the girls” to go for a walk! THIS IS THE FIFTH, UNPRECISED COLUMN!
                Simplicity is worse than theft, right.
              2. Very old
                Very old 17 August 2013 17: 41 New
                0
                Alyosha, and YOU tried to Explain
              3. VARCHUN
                VARCHUN 19 October 2013 13: 31 New
                0
                So such youth in this city is a hero. The normal would have been caught and shown without trial.
              4. VARCHUN
                VARCHUN 23 November 2013 18: 01 New
                0
                And what can mother say here she said everything about her upbringing and her awareness.
            2. Very old
              Very old 17 August 2013 15: 10 New
              0
              Michael, parents will work out, because they do not know how
            3. VARCHUN
              VARCHUN 19 October 2013 13: 28 New
              0
              Parents of fault only in the fact that from childhood they did not show what their homeland was and what happened before that gave birth to GOVNA.
          2. valerii41
            valerii41 19 August 2013 19: 19 New
            0
            Parents most likely burn from vodka
        2. zart_arn
          zart_arn 17 August 2013 12: 57 New
          +7
          In the old days, there was a good, instructive measure of influence - chained to a shameful pillar for a certain time with a sign “who”, “whose”, “what did”. I think there would be a good educational effect. Humane and edifying.
        3. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 17 August 2013 16: 47 New
          +5
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          There will be more for one potential criminal.

          Yura! I, and many of my friends, are ready to forgive simple "criminals" - someone stumbled, someone drunk committed indecent. BUT! No one will ever forgive the "shifters" spitting on the holy graves of the SOLDIER of the Fatherland.
          Therefore, in the dashing 90, the people believed more in "lads" than in the shifters from the former commies.
          "The principles are not teeth that fall out of a lack of vitamins in the camp diet" (Lieutenant General D. Karbyshev).
        4. Revolver
          Revolver 17 August 2013 18: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          Well planted. So what. There will be more for one potential criminal. He is seized by convicts of "concepts" and will be released "with freedom" with the stigma of "convicts" and employment problems. It will be weak in spirit, will go to local primates.

          I don’t think so. Even with criminals, grandfathers or great-grandfathers fought. If the convicts retained even the remnants of patriotism, then be him a rooster. And the cocks of urki are not taken into business.
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          To revive the frontal place and to carve it in public without burrs with rods so that it would burn out of shame and a couple of weeks on the ass could not. Very educational measure and memorable until the end of days and also instant action.
          Revive and legitimize.

          I support. And even a frontal place is not necessary, it can be carved at the crime scene.
          Actually, I'm not a fan of the Iranian ayatollahs, but I think it would be nice to adopt one custom. They publicly hang murderers and rapists at the crime scene - everywhere that would be.
        5. Combitor
          Combitor 18 August 2013 03: 18 New
          0
          <Captain Vrungel (1) Yesterday, 08:28>
          Sometimes in the press there are reports about how in the west judges when considering civil, administrative and criminal cases make non-standard decisions. Maybe we also have such a practice. And to punish such gentry ddoks not with a prison term, for the reason that you voiced, but, for example, with washing, painting, with a word, caring for all military monuments in the city for a certain period of time. And the order will be ensured by these idiots and the educational process will go ...
      2. Apollo
        17 August 2013 09: 14 New
        +5
        Quote: krasin
        And so they gave it normally. Young stupid, do not cut off their lives.


        Vladimir! hi
        Do you think this is normal ?! am

        Quote: krasin
        The main thing is that there is punishment


        and that you consider punishment ?!
        Quote: krasin
        and rather severe, 1,5 years of youth from life.


        harsh ?!
        I believe that precisely because of the liberalism of Russian law, such egregious cases take place + I don’t see angry and public censure at the general federal level. Such cases should be considered as state-of-emergency.
        I can’t imagine how such a thing could have happened when the USSR was in. I’d have put it right on the wall. And you are writing harsh. The minus to you is well-deserved.
      3. kotdavin4i
        kotdavin4i 17 August 2013 10: 02 New
        24
        Good morning, Vladimir, are you stupid? at the age of 21, many put on stars on shoulder straps and go home and defend such “stupid” ones, many graduate from universities, many plow in factories for 3-4 years, and now you see “young, stupid” ... and why the heck was a monument to climb and even shine * opami there .. Wanted extreme? would they sign up for contract, yes to the Caucasus, what is not enough in one place?
        And nefiga to protect such freaks - quite young people went crazy out of their minds.
        1. Very old
          Very old 17 August 2013 14: 42 New
          +2
          San Sanych. It hurts me, only one has returned from our family.
        2. Revolver
          Revolver 17 August 2013 18: 40 New
          0
          Quote: kotdavin4i
          Yes, and * opami shine there .. Extreme wanted?

          Here in the zone will be extreme, and it is in this place. They will tear what is called the British flag.
      4. Goldmitro
        Goldmitro 17 August 2013 10: 10 New
        13
        <<< At the same time, two of them committed indecent acts. All this was recorded on a camcorder and posted on the Web. >>>
        No compassionate regrets regarding these freaks, they say. why so much, young, stupid, why did they break their lives? Such reasoning in an overly compassionate society only contributes to the reproduction of this scum and adult scum grow out of young scum! They were well aware of what they were doing and why! They needed fame! Their moronic brains were only enough for this and they posted everything on the Internet and feel brave HEROES and, for sure, continue to feel even now, when they got the deadline!
        Surely video on the Internet would be much more popular on the Internet, where they would beat such cams for such cases in M ​​... DU right on the spot before being detained and convicted in court! But, unfortunately, the liberal market philosophy educating individualistic consumers who have different interests and values ​​today takes their and more and more cases when this happens openly in front of a large number of people and NO ONE is trying to STOP!
      5. Albert1988
        Albert1988 17 August 2013 11: 30 New
        +3
        I categorically disagree - a normal person at this age should already have brains in place and he should understand what's what - if not, then it must already be strictly punished, including so that others are not harassed, but the question is where do they plant for such crimes? Of course, they do not need to be planted with experienced prisoners, but this is already a headache for the government and the Ministry of Internal Affairs
      6. antiaircrafter
        antiaircrafter 17 August 2013 14: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: krasin
        the punishment is also quite severe, 1,5 of the year of youth from life.

        Nothing harsh. no deletion.
        They just have to be home on time and not go somewhere.
        For me, it would be better if they wrote out a fine for a couple of muleno. And they would pay it all their lives, like a mortgage, and remember what and why.
      7. Very old
        Very old 17 August 2013 15: 17 New
        0
        Volodya, of course, is young and stupid. But is it a lesson for the future? And this is more important than all reasoning. They will become even more embittered, and then they will create something else.
      8. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 17 August 2013 16: 35 New
        +5
        Quote: krasin
        . Young stupid, do not cut off their lives.

        I reached the general, but my mind didn’t increase! (with)
        Together with the sons, you need to judge the parents! It was they who raised such moral freaks! It was they who did not cultivate respect for those who gave their lives, so that they would live and give birth (but not bring up!) Such moral freaks. YES, I THINK THAT THIS IS MORAL FOR YOU!
        They need to be judged, but it is NECESSARY to organize social work for them at the memorial under the soundtrack of the story of the feat of those who covered Moscow with their own homeland! And then take the test on the knowledge that the SOLDIERS did so that they now live! It is impossible to forgive! Otherwise, we can assume that the Dulles doctrine has found its followers. And this is CRASH! IMHO.
      9. Very old
        Very old 18 August 2013 07: 58 New
        0
        So what do they crop? Suggest
      10. VARCHUN
        VARCHUN 23 November 2013 17: 58 New
        0
        When such stupid young people slaughter you over the top of my head I will see what you say, smart you are soft-bodied, move to Holland and you will live with people like you.
    3. Fantomac
      Fantomac 17 August 2013 08: 06 New
      +3
      Yes, you don’t need to blow it, it’s an all-out consequence, but to educate it from the cradle as it was in the USSR, they drove into the head from the kindergarten that there was a terrible war of liberation, I remember we guys from one group in kindergarten wore sweatshirts with a cap with earflaps with a red ribbon for the partisans .
    4. Edward72
      Edward72 17 August 2013 08: 20 New
      +9
      It was necessary to smear the one who taught them history, and the life-time uncles and aunts from the ministry for carrying out such reforms.
      1. builder
        builder 17 August 2013 12: 00 New
        +1
        I totally agree.
    5. Civil
      Civil 17 August 2013 09: 09 New
      +1
      and here is the famous "log in the eye"
    6. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 17 August 2013 10: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      They didn’t give much, I had to solder everyone for the most I do not want others to start thinking with their head.


      And it would be even more correct to sentence them to forced labor and force them to brush the monuments to the soldiers-liberators with toothbrushes for several years, cover it in the media, show them at work through all channels, and hang up their photos with comments throughout the city , then there will be a sense and edification to the other freaks who do not remember or do not want to remember the feat of our fathers and grandfathers. Then this shame will be remembered for a lifetime!
    7. Airman
      Airman 17 August 2013 11: 29 New
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      They didn’t give much, I had to solder everyone for the most I do not want others to start thinking with their head.

      And no matter how much you give them, everything will be small. If the brains are “imprisoned” only for pleasure, consumption, THEN IT'S ALREADY MORAL DEBILS.
    8. Mujahiddin777
      Mujahiddin777 17 August 2013 11: 32 New
      +4
      ... And attract parents so that they are engaged in upbringing and look after the kids!
      1. matross
        matross 17 August 2013 13: 44 New
        +2
        Quote: Mujahiddin777
        .And attract parents,

        It is good to. Yes late. They’re adults ... they’re only the minds of ten-year-olds, but they must already be responsible for themselves!
        1. valerii41
          valerii41 17 August 2013 13: 58 New
          0
          If dad and mom are crazy people, what can you do?
    9. Aryan
      Aryan 17 August 2013 12: 39 New
      -4
      convicted
      and now they will be omitted
      and here on the forum obroz * us
      1. valerii41
        valerii41 19 August 2013 19: 35 New
        0
        Do you think up patriots in the zone? These will be omitted if the solder from the nightstand is hidden or fingers spread out, or the authority likes red scarlet cheeks and buttocks in the ladies. Everything depends on the person’s spirit in the zone
    10. Very old
      Very old 17 August 2013 14: 01 New
      0
      For good behavior ... etc. Came out, and the old. We know how to forgive
      1. Airman
        Airman 17 August 2013 22: 21 New
        +4
        Quote: Old very
        For good behavior ... etc. Came out, and the old. We know how to forgive

        The desecration of monuments and graves cannot be forgiven. When I listen to news about vandals in the news, I want to tear off their hands. You can’t scoff at the memory of ANCESTORS.
        1. Very old
          Very old 18 August 2013 08: 01 New
          0
          Our legislation focuses on the values ​​of "universal people."
    11. does it
      does it 17 August 2013 15: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      They didn’t give much, I had to solder everyone for the most I do not want others to start thinking with their head.

      They will give, but to sense! Here the problem is the lack of patriotic education, respect for the people who fell for the liberation of our country.
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 17 August 2013 17: 38 New
        +4
        Quote: kvirit
        Here the problem is the lack of patriotic education, respect for the people who fell for the liberation of our country.

        THIS is a vivid picture of the failure of upbringing during the period of "democratization"; this is what the white-wingers with Bolotnaya are striving for. COMMON MAN, their mother in a swing! And as a beloved ISRAEL, so can’t say anything across!
        Correctly, Stalin called them DRUGLESS COSMOPOLITES.
        HOMELAND OR DEATH! - this is the slogan of BARBUDOS! Therefore, the CUBA stood under the very nose of the Yankees. (Plus our help!) They will break our national character (IT IS BETTER TO DIE STANDING THAN LIVING ON KNEES!) And you can "merge the material", as they say in the Air Force.
        1. does it
          does it 17 August 2013 18: 11 New
          +1
          Quote: BoA KAA
          this is what the white bellies with the Swamp are striving for.

          Are you sure that they are striving for something at all? For me, this is a performance, for the West, under a dense cap of special services in order to show that we have "democracy" in Russia.
          1. Airman
            Airman 17 August 2013 22: 26 New
            +1
            Quote: kvirit
            Quote: BoA KAA
            this is what the white bellies with the Swamp are striving for.

            Are you sure that they are striving for something at all? For me, this is a performance, for the West, under a dense cap of special services in order to show that we have "democracy" in Russia.

            And if under a tight cap, then this is no longer, but saboteurs, and the article should be different.
    12. yak69
      yak69 17 August 2013 15: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      They didn’t give much, I had to solder each to the most I do not want

      Not the wrong word! For this, it is necessary to deprive tubers so that they do not give birth to such scumbags.
      And also, it is necessary to screw up the parents of these hoopoes in full - it is they who are to blame for the fact that their children are like that.
      1. yak69
        yak69 17 August 2013 18: 23 New
        +1
        All these excesses, the result of the lack of a coherent state ideology, or rather, its complete absence. This is called INSPIRATION!
        And why be surprised if Putin asked the youth (at a meeting on Seliger) why the state does not care about cleanliness on television, he replied "and then they will not have a rating." Does everyone understand ?! The main thing is the economic benefit !!!! From everything: from TV, from medicine, from education, from science.
        An article about this is called: "Putin on the true causes of media negativity"
        http://politobzor.net/show-3507-putin-ob-istinnyh-prichinah-negativa-smi.html
    13. Very old
      Very old 17 August 2013 16: 51 New
      0
      Unfortunately, you can’t attach your head to them (can you?)
  2. Corsair
    Corsair 17 August 2013 07: 33 New
    +6
    Scourges of obscenity, and penal servitude (somehow the question of hard labor was raised, but everything "calmed down" request )
  3. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 17 August 2013 07: 39 New
    +9
    Why be indignant. As adults relate to memory, so is the younger generation. Only lazy people didn’t spit on Soviet history, that’s the result.
    1. DEMENTIY
      DEMENTIY 17 August 2013 08: 41 New
      +4
      Yesterday, one wise guy demic cool banged!
      Photo of captured Red Army soldiers under the escort of fascists and the inscription "UKRAINE ENTERS NATO"

      We set an example!
      1. The comment was deleted.
  4. Oskar
    Oskar 17 August 2013 07: 39 New
    +2
    A nightmare ... I look at them and I can’t understand what kind of rubbish can be in the heads of people who are capable of such actions. Any words are few, they cannot express the emotions that arise in relation to these "people". I wonder if their ancestors fought? Probably fought ... It's a shame for the War, shedding blood for the very possibility of the existence of these unbelted youths. The sentence is too soft, in my opinion.
    1. O_RUS
      O_RUS 17 August 2013 10: 07 New
      +7
      Quote: Oskar
      I look at them and I can’t understand what kind of rubbish can be in the heads of people who are capable of such actions.


      what parents, such and children
  5. Bosk
    Bosk 17 August 2013 07: 44 New
    +4
    This should not be news, it should be a system!, And secondly I want to tell the defilers ... Well, you guys got there, because almost every family has fought and died in the Great Patriotic War ... then you’re there " resorts "you will find out for yourself what is CONSEQUENCY, but it doesn't seem cool to you, although if you think about it ... it's hard to predict the behavior of inadequate situations in an inadequate situation.
    1. Krsk
      Krsk 17 August 2013 09: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Bosk
      . then you will find out at the "resorts"


      That's the paradox of this situation that none of them will visit the “resorts”. One year in the "village" where he will sit with the same ingots of Toko accident committed. Two and a half years of restraint of liberty is generally a “punishment beyond the limits” after 1,5 at home ... And that’s all ?! 22 TERIKU KRASLAG and count bounced ... Someone will say harshly? And I’ll say a little but come down ...
  6. aleksandr.k
    aleksandr.k 17 August 2013 07: 48 New
    -3
    Ideally, each pool in the head and bury like dogs.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 17 August 2013 08: 18 New
      -3
      Ideally, each pool in the head and bury like dogs.

      Something like this, now the "rebels" in Syria are doing.
    2. DEMENTIY
      DEMENTIY 17 August 2013 08: 30 New
      0
      + article and sentence!

      And you have a question for Alexander! “By the pool in the head” will you yourself perform or ask whom will you be?
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 17 August 2013 17: 17 New
        0
        Quote: DEMENTIY
        And you have a question for Alexander! “By the pool in the head” will you yourself perform or ask whom will you be?

        And why on earth are you interested in? Is it possible to give the geeks candy so that they do not worry much? You hide your pity a little deeper - it looks disgusting.
        1. DEMENTIY
          DEMENTIY 18 August 2013 06: 09 New
          0
          And why on earth are you interested in?


          But how to shoot the first - then you will find out.
          1. Hudo
            Hudo 18 August 2013 07: 05 New
            0
            Why are you poking? Somehow, I don’t remember that you and I from one pot were eating pearl barley. Or is rudeness your only way of proving the correctness of your own views?
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 17 August 2013 17: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: aleksandr.k
      Ideally, each pool in the head and bury like dogs

      For the 37 year - rightly so. For 2013 - too harsh.
      The secret of education is in the tale of A.S. Pushkin "On the priest and his worker Balda": "But Balda beat, but sentenced with reproach ..." So, read the classics!
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 18 August 2013 07: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: BoA KAA
        For the 37 year - rightly so. For 2013 - too harsh.


        I forgot what such an extraordinary and sentimental happened in 1937 from R.Kh. Do not deign to remind.
  7. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 17 August 2013 07: 48 New
    +9
    This is the omission of their parents. The child is raised primarily in the family. And if there every day they hear their parents blaspheming, blaspheming the Soviet past, scamming the country, or even just not saying anything aimed at patriotism, then such individuals grow that can dance on the bones of their ancestors
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 17 August 2013 08: 21 New
      +7
      I agree. "... educate yourself, because your children will be like you."
    2. Very old
      Very old 18 August 2013 08: 02 New
      0
      SPECIALS. It is individuals
  8. Delink
    Delink 17 August 2013 08: 08 New
    +3
    After the collapse of the USSR, amers instilled in us other values. As a result, now we get what we were striving for. Freedom and publicity. If you remember the 90s, but they all remember, then it is not surprising that the street became an educator for many.
    1. Very old
      Very old 18 August 2013 08: 04 New
      0
      IGOR, find Allen Dulles on the Internet. Since then, nothing has changed in USA policy.
  9. vitas
    vitas 17 August 2013 08: 19 New
    +6
    It infuriates such courage, it’s good that not all youth are like that, otherwise we have no future. sad
  10. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 17 August 2013 08: 24 New
    +6
    it is a product of democratic education in schools
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 17 August 2013 11: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: soldier's grandson
      it is a product of democratic education in schools

      So there was a new group trying to change the "childhood strategy", a very good start though I don’t really believe in their success. They have an official businessman in front of them, and education is business !!
      The business of retired ministers to their children and brothers.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 17 August 2013 18: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: soldier's grandson
      it is a product of democratic education in schools

      The school provides knowledge and preaches "values", and FAMILIES UPDATES! Remember this, and make your family (state unit) an unshakable fortress of moral values ​​in OUR SLAVIC CIVILIZATION!
      There are heights that cannot be surrendered!
      1. Very old
        Very old 18 August 2013 08: 07 New
        0
        Sasha, save the family.
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 17 August 2013 08: 29 New
    11
    Maybe I will express not quite typical opinion but nevertheless:
    I would give them 3 years of probation and 5000 hours of work to care for this burial.
    Let the flowers planted snow removed, sweep the trash and let at least one complaint, they immediately go to try the balance.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 17 August 2013 17: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: APASUS
      I would give them 3 years of probation and 5000 hours of work to care for this burial.


      Not that! As soon as the person controlling the execution of work is turned away, they bastards will spit on the monument immediately! Let me better spit in the face, and not at the monument. The dead will not be able to answer, I - can so that neither spit nor whistle until the end of life can.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 17 August 2013 18: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Hudo
        As soon as the person controlling the execution of work is turned away, they bastards will spit on the monument immediately!

        Do not spit. These are children of a modern formation raised by money.
        They understand only money and power! Calling them to conscience or respect for their ancestors is useless, they can only be held back by fear of a trip to Siberia.
  12. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 17 August 2013 08: 37 New
    +2
    Quote: soldier's grandson
    it is a product of democratic education in schools
    and the media including - military-patriotic films are shown only on big holidays and then selectively. These kinder surprises did not see the film "It was in intelligence" and others showing the war with a "child's face" when teenagers fought against Hitlerism in the same ranks as adults and also died ....
  13. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 17 August 2013 08: 58 New
    +5
    still to carve in the central square, and parents to a shameful pillar
    1. Zhenya
      Zhenya 17 August 2013 09: 34 New
      +3
      In perfect! Sich and that was broadcasted throughout the whole of Rosa. , there a million soldiers gave their soul to God in order to educate these geeks.
      1. sasha.28blaga
        sasha.28blaga 19 August 2013 09: 26 New
        0
        spread on the Internet, as they say wedge wedge
    2. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 17 August 2013 09: 43 New
      +2
      And conduct a course of lectures on patriotic education and watching Soviet classics dedicated to the Second World War. And all at the expense of parents
      1. dmit-xnumx
        dmit-xnumx 17 August 2013 10: 36 New
        +5
        - In addition to the Soviet classics, it would be possible (film) "We are from the future", there are also educational moments there.
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 17 August 2013 17: 20 New
          0
          Quote: dmit-52
          - In addition to the Soviet classics, it would be possible (film) "We are from the future", there are also educational moments there.


          Films of such gnaws can not be re-educated. If they do not respect, then let them be afraid, but in order to be afraid, they must be given not for a year and a half.
      2. valerii41
        valerii41 19 August 2013 20: 03 New
        0
        However, you are a dreamer. Parents are clearly drunks, the gyrus is jammed with somersaults so that there are no volunteers to read lectures, the main path to the garbage containers was chosen
  14. alone
    alone 17 August 2013 09: 41 New
    +5
    let them not forget those who walk the streets with a swastika and zygitsya at a meeting. These Nazis are worse than these brainless
    1. valerii41
      valerii41 17 August 2013 14: 32 New
      +3
      Those who walk with the swastika will not do such things, this is another parameter. In Georgia, in Armenia ,,,,, Japan does not go with a swastika, and nationalist states
  15. klip07
    klip07 17 August 2013 09: 41 New
    +3
    50 lashes to everyone and show in the news, so that it would be disgraceful for others ...
  16. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 17 August 2013 09: 57 New
    +1
    Well, at least not a conditional sentence was given, there will be time to think (if there is anything) about their actions.
    1. Apollo
      17 August 2013 10: 09 New
      +4
      Look at these creatures, not only have they defiled, they also photographed and laid out in YouTube am
      1. does it
        does it 17 August 2013 16: 02 New
        +2
        Quote: Apollon
        Look at these creatures, not only have they defiled, they also photographed and laid out in YouTube

        Creatures as creatures (all that is alive on earth are creatures) are affected by a lack of respect for the fallen, and it is not liberals who are to blame, but the current government with its beautiful propaganda of life, it is necessary to open more stadiums! Rather than close and crush with the subsequent construction of outlets.
        1. valerii41
          valerii41 18 August 2013 08: 38 New
          0
          The country was turned into stalls, they drove painted beauties with boyfriends and luxury cars around the box. The sufferings of the singers with their divorces and the mass shooting with one standard scene, a superhero and a disgusting villain under the gun trailers lead a business "bazaar", two noble and villainous hates. These teenagers are no more than 15 years old, their parents drink vodka, or they get divorced and gather in packs teachers who have 3-4 trips to the zone. The authorities are very busy with bribes, kickbacks with all kinds of diasporas reported to the people "PUT" and increased the number of criminals. Collect abandoned adolescents to attach physical education teachers, mathematics of physics, and tell the men to survive in the forest. After the forest of all in the cadet corps, the number of candidates for criminals will decrease sharply. In Rome during the time of Cicero, the lawyer himself chose who to defend, because he put his life on barrel with the accused, in case of loss, both were sewn up in sheep's clothing and thrown into the Tiber river. The billionaire lawyers were not enough. In Russia, a swindler is brought to court, a lawyer gathers journalists, we are informed, about procedural violations, not the lawfulness of arrest, and the crystal honesty of “Trial Court” in democratic Russia there are too many billionaire lawyers. This is also seen by adolescents, there is a psychological breakdown
          1. valerii41
            valerii41 18 August 2013 14: 05 New
            0
            I apologize not for the 15 year old teens, but for the very conscious boobies brought up with us. While the oligarchs divided Russia, an incomprehensible tribe grew up. Four years ago, a military registration and enlistment office with the police caught a neighbor's patriot in the army. I showed interest in catching a lot of patriots? It turned out to be a big secret. For an hour I explained, well, give the atomic bomb, will they whip at a dose, or will they smash your bomb where you throw it? Get into the river poison all fish, and the fishermen will scare you for a long time will curse you
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 17 August 2013 18: 15 New
        +3
        Quote: Apollon
        Look at these creatures

        By my naivety, I thought that as always: they waved a glass, tore off the roof ... HERE HOLINESS! YOU NEED TO PUNISH FOR THIS! THIS CANCER CELLS ON THE BODY OF THE PEOPLE!
        You bastards, they also packed all this with imported music! In the creature! Scum!
    2. alone
      alone 17 August 2013 13: 57 New
      +2
      it would be something to think, this would not have been done.
  17. bistrov.
    bistrov. 17 August 2013 10: 31 New
    +5
    The indecent actions of young people became possible due to the lack of military-patriotic and physical education, a huge saturation of the media with examples promoting the cult of violence, crime and unearned enrichment, a parasitic lifestyle, alcoholism and drug addiction. Look at these pimple "pop stars." Yes, in Soviet times, such would not even have been taken as a watchman to the seediest collective farm. And now he or she is grimacing on the stage under obscene movements, shaking unwashed patls, shoveling money with a shovel and the same "youth" applauding him noisily. It is necessary to return the Soviet system of youth education, to make them work, to revise the policy with regard to all kinds of "shows" and their participants, films should be taught good, kind, otherwise they simply should not be allowed to be shown. Then, maybe in 20 years, there will be no cases of vandalism and similar phenomena. In the meantime, alas, these are all the results of the so-called "reforms", when the socialist economy and the systems serving it were destroyed in the post-Soviet space and wild capitalism with all its "charms" was restored.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 17 August 2013 18: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: bistrov.
      due to the lack of military-patriotic and physical education,

      Respected! Watch how they roll somersaults and somersaults with a turn on 90 *.
      huge saturation of the media with propaganda examples
      To return the media to the fold of state policy is the business of our government: Parliament and the President. If this is not done, then we will not see victory on the ideological front. The question is: who does not understand this? Ahn, nothing is being done! So it turns out - the people demand one thing, and the authorities do the other ...
      But are they really servants of the people !?
  18. Seraph
    Seraph 17 August 2013 11: 19 New
    +4
    I summarize the softest suggestions for the education of Gopniks:
    1. It is publicly to carve on the main square of Rzhev (in advance throughout the city post ads with the date, place and name of the characters)
    2.5000 hours of community service, without payment. Work carried out in a special form, like a camp; 10 hours a day; in the most crowded places of the city; the guard with the dog so that they do not run away; for the attempt - shackles.
    3. For parents - a fine (how much is spelled out in the legislation?) And monthly deductions from the salary for the grocery maintenance of the corrected and salary guard.
    4. In universities, do not accept civil service, restrict rights for 5 years, prohibit registration and employment in million-plus cities.
    5. For life not to travel abroad.
    6. Birth at the city "wall of shame."
    7.News to turn the week on central TV, so that such naughty people diminished.
    1. does it
      does it 17 August 2013 16: 08 New
      0
      Quote: Seraphim
      .News turn the week on central TV, so that such naughty people diminished.

      Most likely it will increase. We have such time now.
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 17 August 2013 17: 23 New
        0
        Quote: kvirit
        Most likely it will increase. We have such time now.


        Maybe it will increase, at first. Then, if you do not stop, it will immediately decrease.
  19. Evgeniy46
    Evgeniy46 17 August 2013 11: 36 New
    +1
    The worst thing is that in the corresponding article of the Criminal Code, they will give the maximum - 3 of the year
    1. alone
      alone 17 August 2013 11: 46 New
      -1
      I would send them to uranium mines for 3 years. It would be a lesson for the rest
      1. valerii41
        valerii41 17 August 2013 14: 25 New
        -1
        In uranium mines they don’t wave Kyle, there are high-tech equipment, to sell watermelons on the market
  20. Sour
    Sour 17 August 2013 12: 34 New
    +2
    Our legislation is soft ... too soft. Unacceptably soft. sad
    Close these freaks for 5 years, no less. And no discounts on snotty age. And then all these jerks sincerely consider themselves adults. Try to call them kids - offended. So let them answer in an adult way. And seriously, about 5 years of general treatment plus a fine.
    The cormorants are 18, 19, 21. I had three dozen subordinates at the age of 19. And at the age of 21 he was already thinking about the first divorce. smile So the age for tough sanctions is completely nothing.
    1. shinobi
      shinobi 17 August 2013 14: 41 New
      0
      The fact of the matter is that these kids didn’t get accustomed to working with the brain and even vryatli understood what they got the deadlines for. They were just "bastards" and had nothing to do with it.
      1. Sour
        Sour 17 August 2013 14: 51 New
        +1
        Well, once in 20 years the brain does not work, then it will not work in 40. Then one sensible solution is to shoot. But this is not humane. But 5 years of imprisonment - this is the norm. And preferably, at the stage of investigation and trial, they are in the same cell with the "roosters". Although this is not spelled out in the code, but ...
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 17 August 2013 18: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: shinobi
        . They are just "bastards" and didn’t mean anything like that.

        A sort of innocent naivety! Then a logical question arises: And who should explain these algae. that they owe everything to those SOLDIERS who laid their young lives on the altar of the Fatherland, so that their mothers would give birth to such children who, in essence, abused the HOLY - the grateful memory of the people about their sons, who had completely fulfilled their military duty.
        And what did they mean when they scoffed at the memorial? French "13 Region"? PARKUR on the Coffins, even the HORIZONS would not forgive their nonsense!
      3. Corsair
        Corsair 18 August 2013 01: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: shinobi
        The fact of the matter is that these kids didn’t get accustomed to working with the brain and even vryatli understood what they got the deadlines for. They were just "bastards" and had nothing to do with it.


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  21. fluke
    fluke 17 August 2013 13: 54 New
    +1
    It is necessary to castrate, so that their own kind is not born.
  22. rks5317
    rks5317 17 August 2013 14: 11 New
    +1
    The grandparents of the Kazarlitsky and Berlizovs, who were destined for Auschwitz and the Buchenwalds, were saved by the RUSSIAN soldiers ... And their descendants shit in holy places ... Yes, a short historical memory of some peoples ...
  23. shinobi
    shinobi 17 August 2013 14: 32 New
    +3
    Breaking properly, and for obligatory work, wash public toilets. Clean mortuaries, departments unclaimed. I think a month is enough for the eyes.






    flax
    1. does it
      does it 17 August 2013 16: 06 New
      0
      Quote: shinobi
      for compulsory work, wash public toilets. Morgues to clean, departments unclaimed.

      I agree with that.
  24. V. Tarasyan
    V. Tarasyan 17 August 2013 14: 36 New
    +2
    At this age, our grandfathers took up arms and went to defend their homeland. And these ... am
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 17 August 2013 15: 41 New
      +3
      In my family, four people did not return from the front. The youngest of them was eighteen. For the sake of the experiment, he showed a video to his daughter (no comment), look at the reaction. She is twenty three. “What are they ... doing?” Was the answer. So all the same, not all young people here are so. Thank God. And at the expense of the sentence, they gave it right, but in my opinion it’s not worth it to go too far, giving ten years.
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 17 August 2013 18: 46 New
        +2
        Quote: novobranets
        but go too far, giving ten years in my opinion is not worth it.

        The prison didn’t do any better. What is needed is different: in order to reach the place where the brain should be located, what is HOLY, which no one is allowed to make fun of. This HOLY need to love more than your life. Raise it in their children and strictly monitor the ubiquitous performance on the ground. Then there will remain the soul of the people, the moral values ​​of Russian civilization. Then THIRD ROME will remain.
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 17 August 2013 18: 51 New
          0
          The prison, of course, did no better than anyone, for they are not being corrected there, but are serving their sentences. Probably still better forced labor. And the Third Rome is doomed to stay because the Fourth Rome will not happen.
  25. saha471
    saha471 17 August 2013 14: 40 New
    +6
    [quote = Apollon] [quote = Hon]Me like a lawyer becomes anxious from the increased number of illegal sentences, this is chaos. [/ quote]

    Lawyer, journalist, prostitute, all in one row. If there are no remains under the memorial plate, then it means you can arrange parkour there? A normal person will say NO! A "lawyer" will say, you need to look at the code of laws. AND WILL EXTEND the bastard so that these tricks will also be given a prize for dexterity. THAT'S Nonsense !!!! Lawlessness, dear LAWYER, is that everything is permitted that is not NAMED in the law. Is there a brain, but morality, but is there a conscience? Or should a lawyer have no such functions? Do they interfere with professional growth? Fry a live cat in the microwave and demand a million from the manufacturer for not writing “can not dry animals” in the instructions? These "lawyers" won the process, and ......... paid a lemon. We laugh that this is possible in America. But she’s not a Fool, she’s just scum. Perfectly calculated everything. And relied on lawyers, s.
    The fewer such legalists, the more sane the justice will be.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 17 August 2013 18: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: saha471
      Lawyer, journalist, prostitute, all in one row.

      Namesake! Lawyer - servant of the LAW. HE can not break out of the LAW. The jury trial is another matter! BUT! The civil position of judges (and lawyers) has not been canceled!
      Magazines are a special caste; they trade their conscience as the "priestesses of love" with their bodies. Moreover, they always justify their position with "freedom of sight on the subject of the dispute," or with their journalistic position.
      But she’s not a Fool, she’s just scum.
  26. Apollo
    17 August 2013 14: 40 New
    +5
    Dear visitors. I deleted some of the comments in this thread. The reason for the emotions is going through the roof. Write more correctly.

    Regards Apollo
    1. valerii41
      valerii41 18 August 2013 08: 55 New
      -1
      Read Gogol, especially one paragraph about the Russian language. I never delete comments, I am not a judge. People give an assessment to the comments, and everyone eats according to your Azerbaijani flag, you need to be more modest among Russians
      1. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 18 August 2013 20: 52 New
        -1
        We are all residents of one country, unfortunately destroyed by traitors. Therefore, there is no difference between the citizens of Russia, Azerbaijan, Armenia and the rest. All is required of one, to comply with the rules of the site.
  27. Alex 241
    Alex 241 17 August 2013 15: 19 New
    +3
    I read the news from May 23 and was numb! In Togliatti, LGBT activists laid condoms at the Eternal Flame.

    Last Sunday in Tolyatti, a group of young people, believe me, the language doesn’t dare to call them citizens, the Eternal Flame honored the memory of those who fell in the Great Patriotic War, there are not famous fellow countrymen who defeated the Nazis, but famous people who died from AIDS. In particular, the leader of the Queen group Freddie Mercury and other famous people were honored.

    The very choice of a place for such an action of memory causes a rash, but after it became known that the activists put the cones in the bowl in front of the portraits and the Eternal Flame, in which the locals identified the Togliatti LGBT party, it’s hard to feel the attitude they have nothing else but disgust. My opinion is to roll real terms for such acts! Write out a life-long wolf ticket, so that the fate of these scum would be a pick and a shovel.
    1. builder
      builder 17 August 2013 15: 30 New
      0
      This topic was discussed on the site.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 17 August 2013 19: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: Alex 241
      in a bowl that these activists put in front of the portraits and the Eternal Flame, in which local residents recognized the Togliatti LGBT party, put condoms on, it’s hard to feel anything else besides them

      I have a question for the Togliatti people: what, MUZHIKOV is no longer among you? In the face they have no one to give? Oh you! On your own land you don’t consider yourself masters, you cannot bring some perverts to the meridian.
      I am sure that our guys from the Department of Internal Affairs would support you.
      I am not a reactionary, and I would not say a word if these creatures had performed their ritual somewhere in their vile temple. But to desecrate the ETERNAL FIRE with portraits of those killed for the Fatherland is the height of blasphemy.
    3. valerii41
      valerii41 18 August 2013 09: 11 New
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      If for these people over 18 there is a need for article 244 on all counts, it is necessary to raise the term to 10 years, or maybe more, since they will fall into their native element. The table set is simple with a spoon, a mug, a bowl, cocks only cope with holes. There is no eternal flame, but you can always light a fire. The same people are in the zone, friendship is stronger, and good guarantees from any infection
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  29. darksoul
    darksoul 17 August 2013 15: 51 New
    +3
    one more geeks .. that a lot of these are becoming ... who are these deb ... silts and most importantly how are they raising and educating? where do they get into the light
  30. igor_ua
    igor_ua 17 August 2013 16: 01 New
    +2
    I’m all thinking: haven’t there really been / will not be anyone in Rzhev who just picked up and filled their faces? Before serving, after serving - it does not matter.
    PS
    Of course, it’s to fill their faces with it - you can "sit down" yourself, but if you approach the task wisely, you can be physically punished so that there will be no corpus delicti ..
  31. Vlaleks48
    Vlaleks48 17 August 2013 16: 23 New
    +1
    Now the spears are breaking about the freaks who defiled The memory of those who died for their homeland! The court quietly went and went. And they will remain freaks! There will still be a stench from the liberals, how the children were condemned!
    It would be simpler to flog publicly in a public place, so that it would be disgraceful and today it would be more effective than all these courts! And flogging the Internet for further glorification!
  32. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 17 August 2013 16: 25 New
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    They didn’t give much, I had to solder everyone for the most I do not want others to start thinking with their head.

    Well, I don’t know about the criminal punishment, but I won’t have to dump concrete ones, moreover, with my feet and hands! The criminal investigation has not led many to the true path, but specific pees ... for many have been taught life!
  33. Vtel
    Vtel 17 August 2013 17: 05 New
    0
    Here they are the fruits of liberal power, when everything is possible and they have nothing sacred. It is terrible for the souls of these people, but God is patient and punishes when he counts. Sooner they rejoice 1.5 years they say not a term, but what about eternity in ADU. God direct them to let them be true, so that they do not die at all, which cannot be said about their ancestors - by this they will answer twice to God and to those who perished for their carefree fat life.
  34. shpuntik
    shpuntik 17 August 2013 17: 08 New
    +2
    As established by the court and the investigation, four young people who love parkour,

    Here is a good place for parkour, near the Kolyma River: at the same time, mine gold for the country. Only a year is not enough, economically unprofitable. Five years should be planted, and instead of the fourth, if “small” yet, then let the parent work for him, he raised him.
  35. pogis
    pogis 17 August 2013 17: 11 New
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    Nits! You must press such!
    1. pogis
      pogis 17 August 2013 18: 34 New
      +2
      Some kind of pubic lice egg put a minus!
  36. dropout
    dropout 17 August 2013 17: 31 New
    +1
    Two days ago, we discussed an article on literacy. So the actions of these people and others like them to a large extent depend on their literacy. I do not mean the ability to write without errors. Literacy is exactly that with a capital letter, it implies mastering the largest possible mass of human culture This, of course, depends on the presence of brains, the environment, and upbringing. So, they didn’t get any kind of upbringing. They didn’t even imagine that having organized their games at the memorial, they commit a crime against society and the memory of those to whom they owe their existence. Although not knowledge I’m not exempt from laws. I represent the reaction of the parents: -Ah, they are so good, WE could not assume ..........., etc. I won’t blame them. But until we return everything that we have lost over the past thirty years (I didn’t make a reservation, this whore began even earlier with Nikita) we will not be able to save the Motherland and our children.
  37. Rico1977
    Rico1977 17 August 2013 17: 51 New
    +1
    Guys, please vote for the Kolomna Kremlin at 10russia dot ru You can vote 10 times, but it seems that on different days. Please help the guys - you will see - it is very necessary. it's about the miracles of Russia - well bl .. I don’t want the mosque in Grozny to be the main miracle of Russia. No offense to the Chechens said - served with them (excellent soldiers).
  38. Vladimir 9322
    Vladimir 9322 17 August 2013 18: 17 New
    +1
    Twenty years of criminal feudal capitalism and get the product fresh. Liberalism And the dibilization of the whole country. On this path, Russia will go to the world dump of history. "If you want to defeat the enemy, raise his children." ... Nathaniel Rothschild.
  39. 12345
    12345 17 August 2013 18: 20 New
    0
    Lifelong scrubbing public flush toilets.
  40. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 17 August 2013 18: 39 New
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    Morons. There are no other words.
  41. Roman_999
    Roman_999 17 August 2013 18: 48 New
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    Here it is the lost generation of the 90 years, for which, for various reasons, almost no one cared for a quarter of a century, a generation born on the ruins of the Greatest Power, people who do not know and do not want to know the Stories of their Homeland, which does not have God in their hearts. These are only flowers, fruits - to reap the same to us ...

    Russia has been rising and recovering from more difficult situations, I think we will pass this stage with honor. The dirt of lies and pain is already enough for my Motherland, it is time to live in my Country, with my head and my resources. We - deserve it for a long time and I think the time has come ...
    Thank you.
  42. Darth Revan
    Darth Revan 17 August 2013 18: 50 New
    0
    Or maybe abuse these? Send, say, to Amsterdam, in the same place 3,14s a dime a dozen! laughing But seriously, vparit each for ten years and at Kolyma! There was already a comment even with a photo of the "recreation area" for such idiots.
  43. Snoop
    Snoop 17 August 2013 19: 34 New
    +1
    They would tear off their legs, at the same time as their parents, if such morons were brought up.
  44. georg737577
    georg737577 17 August 2013 22: 28 New
    +1
    Let them sit. God forbid, someone else will lower his pants in the zone (I think it will), let them remember with their ass how they do not love their homeland.
  45. Anat1974
    Anat1974 17 August 2013 22: 33 New
    +2
    I am killed under Rzhev,
    In an unchanged swamp,
    In the fifth company, on the left,
    With a cruel raid.
    I did not hear the rupture,
    I did not see that flash, -
    Like a precipice from a cliff -
    And neither the bottom nor the tires.
    And in all this world,
    Until the end of his days,
    Neither loops, nor crochets
    From my tunic.
    And it’s more our fault. What goes around comes around. Have mother or father ever read to them these verses of Twardowski? Yes, probably NEVER. We grow b.dlo, and then we are surprised.
  46. tixon444
    tixon444 17 August 2013 22: 41 New
    +2
    I read the comments to the end. It is a shame for some reason ... Parkour instead of the military-patriotic club. Is there such a club in Rzhev? In a city of military glory, awarded the Order of the Patriotic War I degree? And what have the city administration and the public done and are doing for the patriotic education of youth? Every year they paint a memorial to the fallen Soviet soldiers and that’s all? But what, have all the dead soldiers been found and reburied in mass graves? Under Rzhev, where The losses of the Red Army on the Rzhev bridgehead amounted to more than a million people? ..

    I am where the roots are blind
    They look for food in the darkness;
    I am where with a cloud of dust
    Rye walks on a hill;
    I'm where the cry of a cock
    At dawn the dew;
    I - where are your cars
    The air is torn on the highway;
    Where a blade of grass to a blade of grass
    The grass river spins, -
    There, where at the wake
    Even the mother will not come.

  47. Spike
    Spike 17 August 2013 23: 29 New
    +2
    “Russians cannot be defeated, we have seen this for hundreds of years. But Russians can instill false values, and then they will defeat themselves ”- Otto von Bismarck
  48. viazma
    viazma 18 August 2013 00: 24 New
    +1
    Young and stupid? Such young people died during the war years, and these mockers. Little given!
  49. 55uaka
    55uaka 18 August 2013 04: 51 New
    -1
    The other day, I accidentally stumbled upon a site for checking fines in the traffic police, and by the way there you can dispute and pay online. For example, for 2 days I challenged 3 fines for a total of about 17 rubles. try it yourself, here is the link to the service - polis.2sms.ru
  50. valerii41
    valerii41 18 August 2013 09: 29 New
    0
    The son-in-law brought his grandson to kindergarten, took him in the evening, the Grandson calls on dad "YOU A Smelly Goat I WILL BREAK YOUR HORN" to go to kindergarten. Parents gathered here, the offspring gave thieves culture and demanded that the boy be removed, in short they threw him away ............... ???????