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A new suspect has appeared in the Oboronservis case

A new suspect appeared in the Oboronservis case; he was the former deputy director of Oboronstroi, Yuri Grehnev, who had previously been a witness in the case.



During the interrogation, Grekhnev admitted that he had been involved in the sale of the buildings of the 31 State Special Design Institute (31 GISS). The episode of selling 31 GPISS is one of the central ones in the Oboronservis case: the buildings were sold at low prices, as a result of which the damage amounted to about 500 thousand rubles.

A new suspect has appeared in the Oboronservis case


500 of thousands is certainly an obvious puncture for the Oboronservis case. Neither a normal brumen, nor a picture by Aivazovsky can be bought. And in general, it is interesting how much the buildings of this 31 GSPIS cost, if they were sold at a loss of as much as X thousand rubles in 500 ... For the price of the secondary housing in the quarter for demolition, perhaps ...

How exactly did the suspect become in this case Mr. Grehnev? It is not reported, nor is it reported whether it was a personal sin of Grehnev, or whether it was acting under the tune of more serious gentlemen.

By the way, about the serious gentlemen. During the week, investigators uncovered the “stop” hundred scam of such persons as Anatoly Serdyukov and Yevgeny Vasilyev. This time it turned out that the ex-Minister of Defense at the time when he was still directly the Minister of Defense, sold to private owners half of the tank farm near Bryansk. More precisely, the order concocted Serdyukov, and was already selling “General Zhenya”. The damage from this kind of sales is about 725 million rubles. 725 of millions is no longer 500 of thousands, of course, but in comparison with the total volumes of revealed sins - also the sum of “average”. A couple of pictures of Aivazovsky and a bag of diamonds, of course, will suffice, but no more ... To paraphrase a well-known quotation from the film of George Danelia, one can say: and when they only had time to dive into the fountains and trade in the Bryansk forest, and steer the defense ...

Comments from our readers:

Experienced:
Bugaga, it is necessary to settle all suspects in an apartment to Vasilyeva with compulsory registration of them with their families, and give their apartments to worthy officers.


Olegff68:
Circus and only !!! They are waving these rags in front of our eyes, so that we can see fewer real problems behind them !!! As suspects - frank "terpily", the figures involved are certainly large, but ridiculous compared with the real extent of theft.


IRBIS:
From the conversation of Vasilyeva and Serdyukov:
"Tolik, it seems to me that the investigative committee suspects something ..."
I, our bodies of investigation simply amaze with their insight.


Kovrovsky:
Year 211 ..., another suspect has appeared in the Oboronservis case!


Who flew past the "Combat Commonwealth-2013"?

The first phase of the joint exercises of the United Air Defense System of the CIS "Combat Commonwealth-2013" has begun, said on Wednesday Colonel Alexei Zolotukhin, a spokesman for the Office of the Press Service and Information on the Aerospace Defense Forces.



On the first day of the exercise, about 20 military units of the armed forces of the countries of the Commonwealth of Independent States were brought to the highest levels of combat readiness.

Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan are taking part in the exercises. The maneuvers involved more than 500 military personnel and more than 100 units of combat and special equipment of the EKR Troops, including C-400 Triumph, C-300 Favorit, Pantyr-S anti-aircraft missile systems.

Joint exercises "Combat Commonwealth-2013"


The composition of the ongoing exercises can immediately make a conclusion about which of the CIS member countries continue to harbor certain hopes that the NATO countries will ever attract them to their teachings, and they will show their full combat power there ... It is somewhat strange that military personnel from Armenia, which is included not only in the CIS, but also in the CSTO, do not take part in the exercises. Is it really a demarche about the recent visit of Vladimir Putin to Baku? Oh, they say so! - if you went to Baku, then our feet will not be on the “Combat Commonwealth-2013”.

Comments from our readers:

Peaceful military:
Let's guys, as often as possible, in different formats, but train, train and train. To the most likely "partners" and their gaskets from frustration and fear could not sleep.


Nitrid:
It is a pity that Ukraine aside, nervously smoking, is watching.


"Come to me in Baku ..."

Today is one of the most talked about News in the Commonwealth space is a fleeting visit of Russian President Vladimir Putin to Azerbaijan and negotiations with Ilham Aliyev. Against the background of the words that the presidents were gathering in order to discuss economic and humanitarian cooperation, a conspiracy theories regarding the presence of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu in the Russian delegation, and generally why Putin went to Baku right now, surfaced.



How Putin’s visit to Azerbaijan was demonized


From this visit, a number of Russian and foreign media managed to concoct a whole conspiracy sensation. Ideas, like pictures in a kaleidoscope, replaced and complemented each other with amazing speed. From the fact that Aliyev decided to buy support from Putin, allowing him to sign contracts for joint oil production, to the point that Putin decided to take with Aliyev a subscription that he is not going to merge the Azerbaijani and Turkish armies. There was also conspiracy in the style: “Putin turned away from Yerevan,” “Putin wants to donate Nagorno-Karabakh to Baku.” There was, perhaps, only “Putin on the maternal side, perhaps an Azerbaijani” ...

Comments of our readers (the percentage of civilized comments on the article was frankly minimal):

Treskoed:
The purpose of any visits of the president is the benefit for YOUR country! Everything else - materials for various media.


Dagestan 333:
It is necessary to reconcile the Azerbaijani and Armenian brothers, by all means. Stop speculating on this, the common people do not need to hate each other.


Huge such secret

In the heroic city of Moscow in Bolshoy Devyatinsky Lane, representatives of the National Security Agency at one time installed one of the 150 XKeyscore servers designed for cyber espionage. Other 149 similar electronic devices are located in other cities of the world, including Beijing, Kiev, Berlin, etc. About this world public told the protagonist of the last time, Edward Snowden. The server was supposed to accumulate information relating to the correspondence of Russian officials, and this information should have been analyzed by representatives of the NSA.



McFaul on the server

And Snowden opened our eyes to the true purpose of the American Embassy in Moscow. And before that, we all thought that they were doing there in their embassy: orchids are grown or with colored pencils are drawing posters "Peace to the World!" ... Now, apparently, we should expect Ambassador McFaul to take out this very server and send it to the receiving point tsvetmeta with the words "And Schaub you, Snowden, lived on one salary!"

Comments from our readers:

Serge-68-68:
How?????? Is the United States spying from its embassy in Moscow ????? Whole server ???? Nightmare!!!!! Thanks to Snowden - eyes opened ...


Morporg:
McFaul to the center: the chef lost everything, the client was given citizenship, left Sheremetyevo, learned about the server, I failed everything — turnout and agents (NPOs). What to do, chef ?!


Zvereok:
It occurred to me how many people around the world, having learned that they were being listened to, began to supply their letters with the posts like "I'm going to kill Obama."


Ukrainian hook

Ukrainian boxer, the leader of the UDAR party, Vitali Klitschko, during a meeting with the President of the World Boxing Council, José Suleiman, announced that he was going to take part in the Ukrainian presidential race in 2015.



True, the press service of the UDAR party, as ITAR-TASS reported, “declined to comment on this message by proposing to send a written request to the party’s press service.”

Vitali Klitschko wants to be president


Well, what, in fact ... Putin is a judoka, Lukashenko is a hockey player, and who is Yanukovych? .. No, Ukraine definitely needs to think about this. Well, at least Vitaly Klitschko understands what needs to be done so that the success of the head of state is guaranteed. Apparently, Vitaly Vladimirovich is witnessing a recent bright example with Dmitry Anatolyevich. These are the ratings that he had when he took up the badminton racket ... And then you don’t need to take anything extra: hryas from the left, hryas from the right - the rating is guaranteed. And so those who "hryas" - will be found quickly.

Comments from our readers:

MG42:
I saw Russian RTR news on cable TV yesterday, so there was a report on Ukraine’s integration, and in the end they said that Klitschko’s rating exceeded Yanukovych’s rating. It is obvious now that Yanukovych is not in favor with the Kremlin, and Moscow will not bet on him in the 2015 elections of the year in Ukraine.


Attention, orderlies! Saakashvili says!

Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili argues that at one time he offered Russia that Tbilisi abandon the policy of joining NATO in exchange for solving problems with South Ossetia and Abkhazia.



"We said that we are ready to abandon NATO and abandon progressive relations with the United States on the basis of an agreement if you (the Russian Federation), in turn, will help in the progress of territorial issues also on the basis of an agreement," Saakashvili said on the TV channel Rustavi 2 "on Wednesday in an interview on the fifth anniversary of the August war.

At the same time, the Georgian president said that at the height of the 2008 conflict, the Americans offered to evacuate him from the country.

Saakashvili said he offered Russia a rejection of rapprochement with NATO


Oh, this mister Saakashvili ... He manages to declare diametrically opposed things and at the same time does not even blush. He says that to negotiate with "occupant" Russia is generally a terrible betrayal for Georgia, then suddenly he himself asserts that he did not just speak with Russia, but also put forward proposals. He then declares that the conflict in South Ossetia was provoked by Moscow, then suddenly appears on Georgian TV and is frank in style: the entry of Georgian troops in Tskhinvali was supported by Washington.

Apparently, he feels the approach of the presidential election, which is why his verbal incontinence manifests itself. A sort of toy president-talker. Now on the Georgian shelves ...

Comments from our readers:

Constantine:
I do not leave the feeling that Mishiko is kept on strong psychotropic drugs


Remservis:
If you think a little about the future of Mishiko, for some reason, it seems that he will arrange all sides only as a carcass.


Persons involved in the desecration of a military memorial in Rzhev convicted

The Rzhev city court on Friday sentenced 21-year-old Nikolai Sergeev, 19-year-old Mikhail Berlizov and 18-year-old Nikita Kazaritsky, who were accused of desecrating a memorial to Soviet soldiers in Rzhev. Sergeyev was sentenced to one year of imprisonment in a penal colony, Berlizova and Kazaritsky were sentenced to restriction of liberty on 1,5 each year.



As established by the court and the investigation, four young people, parkour lovers, one of whom did not reach the age of criminal responsibility at that time, used the Soviet soldiers who died during the liberation of Rzhev from the Nazi invaders to jump with elements of the acrobatics of the Obelisk plate.

Persons involved in the desecration of a military memorial in Rzhev convicted


Interestingly, why did these gentlemen of the color of conscription age, who ran in their underwear obelisks and danced on the Eternal Flame, were engaged, God forgive me, parkour, and not drill or combat training in one of the military units of the Armed Forces? Perhaps, the investigation should have been digging more in this direction, and for the young people to be tried for evasion from service, add “a little more time” to think about their actions, and for other “Komsomol members-parkurovtsy” the lesson would be a serious one ... after all, how it turns out: if you need to go to the army, then many representatives of modern youth, then squint, then flat foot of the last stage, then God knows what, and how to run around the monuments in shorts in winter, everything turns out to be unexpectedly improved. Of course, one cannot exclude the fact that they are students of Russian universities, and therefore they had a legal reprieve. Well, then it remains to say only: what is the university, are the students ...

Comments from our readers:

Krasin:
And they gave it normally. Young stupid ones, they don’t have to cut off their lives. The main thing is that there is a rather severe punishment, 1,5, years of youth from life.


Vladsolo56:
And why resent. As adults relate to memory, so is the younger generation. Soviet history I didn’t spit just lazy, and that’s the result.


Grandson of a soldier:
It is a product of democratic education in schools.


Angry holidaymaker B.H. Obama

The American president publicly showed his lack of balance: he threw out frustration and resentment at the foreign policy level. Last week, he refused to meet with Vladimir Putin in Moscow, and then completely announced a “pause” in relations between the United States and Russia. Analysts are puzzled: not that Obama is nervous because of Snowden, a new resident of Moscow, is not worried about the "blue" oppressed in Russia, or the owner of the Oval Office was offended because of the democratic failure in Syria, which the Kremlin continues to support. On "Military Review" The hypothesis was put forward that Obama annoyed himself - on his own foreign and domestic political setbacks.



The reason for the cancellation of the Moscow talks were, as reported, not only the contradictions that arose between Russia and the United States because of Snowden. The White House complained about the tough stance of the Russian authorities on other issues, including the deployment of the US missile defense system, notes "Lenta.ru"referring to the Associated Press.

In Washington, they explained that Obama would come to Russia for the G20 summit, but he would not meet face to face with Putin. Instead of meeting with him, the American president will visit ... Stockholm. (By the way, the Swedes are already joking on this topic - they say Obama will give the government valuable advice on how to save Sweden from the bombing of Stockholm by the Russians).

Then the next episode went on the air. The US president said that he intended to take a "pause" in relations with Russia, without specifying what he had in mind.

Maybe he decided to take a break from the recalcitrant Russians. Maybe he just blurted out something wrong before going on vacation. Maybe he called the vacation "pause" - they say, while Obama is not, there is no geopolitics. Maybe Obama was completely misunderstood or even incorrectly translated, what happens.

However, they understood and translated Obama correctly. Since he said not only about the pause, but also about something else, he thereby made it clear to the Kremlin how great his annoyance and resentment was. It is even possible that he took leave to calm down.

The key moments of Obama's statement are as follows: 1) praising Medvedev in defiance of Putin (under Medvedev, they say, the relations between the United States and Russia have made great progress); 2) mention of anti-American rhetoric, returned to the Kremlin after the presidential election in the Russian Federation 2012; 3) Putin’s comparison with a “tired schoolboy”; 4) Recognizing that differences between the United States and Russia will persist.

Well, everyone understands: the ideal Russian politician for Washington is someone like Gorbachev. Yeltsin, as an unwitting follower of the ideas of Mikhail Sergeyevich, also fully corresponds to the spirit of “partnership” that the State Department preaches. When Russia is governed by such “leaders,” Russia is on the right track from the point of view of the White House: stumbling to the grave.

When Moscow gives shelter to a fighter with total American wiretapping Snowden, this seeker of truth and a staunch opponent of “Big Brother” (who knows “Brother” from the inside), this means that Russians, according to Obama, “roll back to the thinking and mentality of the Cold War ". This statement is not even a double standard; it is something of the inverted logic of the Bolshevik Pyatakov.

This twisted logic, when black is recognized as white because the party orders (or rather, it is not just recognized, but is recognized as true), and is fully inherent in the American administration.

Blaming the Russians for falling for the Cold War, Obama is doing precisely that which is spinning a new round of this very war. Bringing “peregruzka” instead of “reset” on the symbolic button, Obama seems to have really experienced a real overload. In the end, as you call a yacht, so it will float.

The White House was closed for menopause, or whatever you call a boat, it will float


Comments from our readers:

Refund_SSSR
Obama for another three terms in America!


Blackscorp
For amers who consider themselves the navel of the Earth, only one policy will always be true, a policy of submission to one's will, a policy of concessions to them ...
Almost all of the American political elite in general, and Comrade Obama in particular, are like children in a sandbox, from whom they stole a bucket ... Inflate lips, wave hands and complain about bad kids ... and, it seems, they do not even have levers ... In foreign policy, Putin is firm and confident and does not miss a single bit of significant error of the West - beats right away when with a word, and when with silence ...
Obama Medvedev’s support is clear: his own man!


Predator-74
Obama, frankly, is ridiculous, and even more. Instead of just keeping silent, he “drowns” himself more and more. He is a very weak politician, and this is a fact right now, when he has driven himself into such conditions that any action leads to new mistakes.


Voice of the CIA

Encouraging oppositionists in Syria — the very fighters for democracy and human rights that no-no and even appear under the green banner — the United States supplies them not only with “non-lethal equipment,” communications equipment, but, as is known, with weapons. All this is planned and done under the emblem of the CIA. More than once in the media there were reports that with the US weapons fighters from Dzhebhat an-Nusra and other branches of al-Qaida are fighting in their hands. No matter how the West and the Saudis strive to arm the "true democrats," for some reason, machine guns and rifles turn out to be bearded men. Some of these bearded men, prone to radical Islam, have arrived in Syrian cities from EU countries. With the defeat of the Islamist forces or at the end of the jihad holidays, they will return to their Stockholm, Brussels and London and will be engaged in the introduction of the basics of Sharia in the "homeland". That is why not so long ago, British Prime Minister Cameron refused to arm the "oppositionists" in Syria, noting that there are supposedly many different kinds of warfare. As for the United States, al-Qaeda has long promised to attack Washington - as soon as it establishes power in Damascus. But the United States, as you know, ignition later. And yet the other day, suddenly, “More clearly saw the light” of Mr. Morell - the former first deputy director of the CIA, who resigned and received it on August 9.



This man, who worked at the CIA for thirty-three years, recently gave an interview to the Wall Street Journal and stated bluntly: the fall of Assad would pose a threat to the national security of the United States. The cause of the threat is the increase in Syria of the number of mercenaries fighting under the flags of Al-Qaida.

The former deputy director of the CIA explained to a magazine correspondent that the “regime” of Assad has chemical weapons. Yes, and other types of weapons from him - at the level. And a lot of them. If terrorist fighters take possession of all this, Syria will become a “refuge”, a base for them, where they will both recuperate and strengthen. The victory of al-Qaida, of course, will cause a number of major problems for the United States.

It is curious that it was the representative of the CIA who spoke about the problems for the United States, and he was very experienced and high-ranking. Who, if not him, is aware of who fattens the fat meadows of terrorism in Syria? On the other hand, tseerushniki such rank rarely differ talkativeness in the air. (Well, here, really, we are dealing with a retiree).

It is also interesting that the interview appeared just now, when the whole world already knows about Islamist militants and cannibals in Syria. In the US Congress, there are not only the so-called "hawks" - supporters of the weapons of the Syrian "opposition" like McCain and Graham - but also relatively peaceful people who do not want to arm the bandits and notorious thugs. It may well be that the White House, which, under Obama, is pursuing setbacks, made an indirect attempt to save face and withdraw from the Syrian operation.

Mark Champion (Bloomberg) asks: what is Obama planning now?

The author notes that Morell, who did not comment on US policy as a whole, said a lot of things, but dropped one thing: President Obama could not cope with the situation.

Obama’s fiasco in the conflict in Syria will be seen as the biggest foreign policy failure. (Another failure, Champion considers the "monumental error" of George W. Bush with the invasion of Iraq).

One cannot say, the analyst notes, that Senator McCain was right in his desire to carry out the Libyan scenario in Syria.

Syria has never had “good choices” for the United States, but Obama had to follow the advice of the hosts of the Pentagon, the CIA and the State Department. These people last year recommended arming the Free Syrian Army in order to strengthen those forces on the battlefield, whose activities were as compatible as possible with US targets.

Thus, the “enlightened” Mr. Morell, most likely, not only demonstrates to the world community the lack of clear Syrian plans for the US administration, but also between the lines gives the reader a description of the failed foreign policy of Barack Obama and all his administrators.

Mr. Morell's Insight


Comments from our readers:

Garrin
Late to start. Rights, it turns out, Zadornov in respect amerikosov.


Predator-74
Somehow they are late in sight, very suspicious. Again, it seems, something started, but it is more like a "swan song."


Bigriver
Speaking of US political decisions, we see their power as something integral and non-contradictory, akin to the CPSU.
The note contains a nuance. There are two wings in the US Congress: moderate (pigeons) and hawks. Obama last year, as far as I know, was marked by a struggle with Congress, where he was crushed by the hawks.
Pay attention to Obama's latest appointment in the winter of 2012-13.
The new state secretary, the new minister of defense, the new head of the CIA ... All of them are characterized by many analysts as "moderate."
If you look at Mr. M's "Insight" from this point of view, then we see a gradual change in the balance of forces within the core of US decision-making power. And this new balance will probably lead to a change of course towards Syria.


British rock

Recently, residents of Cyprus built an artificial concrete reef in order to eradicate what they consider to be Spanish fish poaching. This was the beginning of a quarrel between Spain and the UK. Madrid introduced a meticulous border control at the border: now the cars are in customs for three hours or even six hours. Moreover, Spain threatens to impose a frontier "admission fee": 43 pounds (fifty euros) from the nose for "there" and the same amount for "back." This is reminiscent of the services of an Arab in Egypt, who helps a tourist climb a camel for a dollar, and then takes the money and get off. London also initiated a major naval exercises at the southern tip of the Iberian Peninsula, aloud, however, noting that these maneuvers have long been planned.



As can be learned from the Western media, the conflict started at the end of July. 24-th and 25-th in the Gulf of Algeciras seventy concrete blocks were dropped into the water. Reinforcing rods stick out of the blocks - a meter and a half long. In fact, it is an artificial reef blocking the passage of Spanish fishing vessels.

Spain responded with protracted checks at the border. In the queue, the machines stand idle for three to six hours, British newspapers say. Drivers complain that the customs officers are supposedly looking for smuggling.

Then the Spanish Foreign Minister Garcia-Margallo said that Spain plans to impose a tax on crossing the border with Gibraltar. The tax rate is Euro 50 (pounds 43). The tax, as they say in the press, is intended to compensate for the financial losses of Spanish fishermen. In addition, the Spaniards frightened Britain with a complaint to the United Nations.

Answers came from London. Madrid's border measures were called disproportionate and politically motivated on Downing Street, then they threatened to appeal to the European Court, and later, on August 12, ten ships of the Royal Navy fleet from Plymouth and Portsmouth went to Gibraltar as part of some "routine" planned exercises. True, it was publicly announced that Spain had been notified of these maneuvers ahead of time. The press also writes that Britain was going to defend Gibraltar "like the Falkland Islands." It is not surprising, therefore, that Argentina in this geopolitical quarrel showed solidarity with Spain ...

Fiona Govan ("The Telegraph") notes that many people at the border now abandon their cars and walk across the border on foot. Traffic jams at the Spanish border do not end.

Around 10000, the Spaniards cross this border every day, going to work in a self-governing British overseas territory, having an area of ​​just 2,6 square. miles and inhabited about 30000 people.

The Gibraltarians believe that the “checks” at the border are a retaliatory measure of Spain taken in protest against the creation of an artificial reef in the waters of Gibraltar, which are the subject of a dispute over the rights to fishing.

Fabian Picardo, the Chief Minister of Gibraltar, accused the Spanish government of distracting attention from its own internal problems with a new scandal. The Spanish government is accused of corruption, and these accusations also affect Mr. Rajoy (Spanish Prime Minister) himself, the Sky News politician said.

Pierce Go («Mirror») reports that the European Commission plans to send a group of investigators to the border of Gibraltar in the next two weeks. Their goal is to observe “new controls”. The planned investigation is a reaction of the EU to complaints from several deputies of the European Parliament, as well as from EU citizens dissatisfied with long delays at the border.

30000 residents of British overseas territory cling to their British roots, reminds the journalist. Pound currency, red mailboxes, recognizable British shops and banks, English - all this is a legacy of Gibraltar's longstanding ties with England. The results of several referendums held in Gibraltar over the course of many years (the last one in 2002) demonstrate the desire of the overwhelming majority of the population to belong to the British crown.

Shard of the British Empire


Comments from our readers:

xetai9977
As long as there is such a big gap in the living standards of Spain and Britain (read Gibraltar), the Spaniards do not shine. We need to raise our economy, and not to play in sovereignty. Yes, the time of colonialism has passed. But the Gibraltarians themselves hold a different opinion. Who would agree to lose material wealth due to political games?


Constantine
Catalonia thinks so too. Spaniards do not want to work. They have lunch, siesta, something else + all this is seasoned with a terrible bureaucracy and, as we say, “drink tea”. It is not entirely clear how this state functions at all. Well, about the sovereignty of the EU - of course, strongly, but not quite right.


MilaPhone
Gibraltar is the only place in Europe where half-wild monkeys live - magnets. According to local belief, Gibraltar will be British as long as at least one monkey is alive.


Kibalchish
Belief argues that as long as a colony of monkey magotov exists in Gibraltar, the territory will be under British rule. In the 1942 year (during World War II), after the population was reduced to just a few individuals (seven monkeys in total), British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill ordered that their number be immediately replenished by forest magots from Morocco and Algeria - in this regard, believe.


Buried by hackers

It is not for the first time that rumors are spreading about the death of Mikhail Gorbachev, Spiegel writes (the source of the material is "InoTV"). RIA Novosti reported the death of Gorbachev. However, it turned out: the information is false. The state news agency was ashamed of this mistake, emphasizes the German edition; the agency is justified by a hacker attack.

Results of the week. "Kazan ... took ... Astrakhan ... took ... Revel ... took, Shpak ... n-did not take"


The last Soviet ruler "died" quite often. Once information about the death of M.S. appeared even in the "Wikipedia".

Why do Russians hate Gorbachev so much? The politician himself believes that political circles are behind the dissemination of false information. He doesn't think he is hated.

But the Internet says the opposite, the journalist continues. News of the death of Gorbachev was accompanied by numerous comments, full of political contempt, bullying and insults.

Many reviewers believe that Mikhail Sergeevich acted on orders from the United States, and therefore they call him a traitor. Someone claims that Gorbachev is richer than Abramovich. Still others wish to move his rink. The following save up saliva: getting ready to spit on his coffin.

From the comments the German journalist understood: the Russian people cannot forgive Gorbachev for the collapse of the USSR.

We must add to this: he understood everything correctly.

Geopolitical mosaic: in Italy they sell wine “My Fuhrer”, and the next “duck” about the death of Gorbachev appeared because of the Russians' hatred for him


Comments from our readers:

ivshubarin
Why love him, Judas !!!


DEMENTIY
Why are rumors about the death of Gorbachev popular in Russia?
Why? Why?
Because because!
Drink the hunt for the rest of the selling soul!


Tersky
For what rest? And what kind of soul? This mold does not have a soul, but instead of rest it is destined to burn in hell. <…> I went to take the turn, and to the skating rink, and to spit. I hope that at least this queue will do without coupons ...


Cookies and sweets for Estonian soldiers

A few months later in the Estonian army will introduce a new power system, reports "Lenta.ru" with reference to DELFI.



As the head of the nutrition department, Karin Repp, says, soldiers will be fed more frequently. For breakfast, lunch and dinner two extra meals will be added.

Some time ago, the army conducted a survey. His results showed that many soldiers are unhappy with their diet. Interviewees stated that “lunch is too big, and dinner is not enough for everyone.”

Earlier in the food department reported that, in accordance with the wishes of the soldiers, the composition of the suhpayk was changed. Liver gravy and chili meat were excluded from them. There were more sweets in rations: chocolate, halvah, cookies, sweets.

Geopolitical mosaic: Estonian soldiers will eat five times a day, and in the West they talk about the revival of the “Russian bear”


Comments from our readers:

experienced
You should also make a quiet hour during the day, so that it is like in a sanatorium. And during the service every Estonian soldier must see the guarantor of freedom of the Baltic states and her hope and support - a tank, inherited from the USSR, one for three countries.


Peaceful military
... Thank you for having fun with the news about the Estonian army. That's right, these boys, about whom their own chief psychologist Urve Kaura says that “In the Estonian army, there are only“ inhibited ”and armless ...”, only cookies and halvah are not enough.


Good riddance

The idea of ​​a boycott of the Olympics in Sochi was first voiced by US Senator Lindsay Graham. Now the media published calls to boycott Sochi in protest against the infringement of LGBT rights in Russia. The Internet has begun collecting signatures on a petition demanding to transfer the Games from Sochi to Vancouver, reports "InoTV".



According to the German edition News.de, Russia is a real “hell” for gays: here they feel hostility from all sides. Germany's Minister of Justice, Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger, called the oppression of the sex minorities the next step for Russia in the direction of "pure dictatorship."

The rejection of sexual minorities in Russia has reached such a level, the British Financial Times writes, that the legal system treats corrupt officials more favorably than homosexuals.

The story of the oppression of gays in Russia went, as it turned out, even further. The LGBT issue has become a separate geopolitical topic, even involving the provision of the unfortunate persecuted "political asylum".

After the adoption of the law banning the propaganda of homosexual relations in Russia, German politicians began to discuss the possibility of granting political asylum to Russian gays. This proposal was made by the representative of the German government for human rights Markus Löning, newsbalt.ru.

“I urge the federal states to simplify the procedure for granting political asylum to gay applicants from Russia,” said Löning 11 in August in an interview with Welt am Sonntag.

The head of the Left Party’s faction in the Bundestag, Gregor Gysi, takes the same position. He says: "The federal government should provide asylum to all Russian gays who are persecuted or discriminated against in their homeland."

Finally, and according to Mariluise Beck, deputies of the Bundestag from the Union-90 / Green faction, in Germany there are legal opportunities for providing political asylum to representatives of the Russian LGBT community: “German discrimination provides for this opportunity in case of gender discrimination - with this prosecution does not have to come from the state. ”

There were voices from Canada. The Canadian Council for Refugees is likely to be favorably considered by applications for asylum from non-traditional sexual orientation from Russia, the Minister for Immigration of Canada said, reports "The Globe and Mail" (source abbr. translation - "Inopressa").

Journalists clarify: “On average, Canada arrives from 140 to 225 Russians per year applying for asylum, and about half of them receive a positive response. The Council on Immigration and Refugees does not keep accurate statistics on how many people are seeking asylum because of persecution on the basis of sexual orientation. ”

The policy of providing such "shelters" will end fatally for the West, we add from ourselves. The West has always been famous for its technology. He does not just step on a rake twice - he constructs and arranges this rake.

Geopolitical mosaic: Estonian soldiers will eat five times a day, and in the West they talk about the revival of the “Russian bear”


Comments from our readers:

avdkrd
I would be terribly happy if for gay people, but simply homosexuals, in Russia there really will be hell. For homosexuals wishing to emigrate, we should have rainbow-colored carpeting on our side. The mood was very good, that in Germany, Canada, etc., they lack their own, and they turned on the green light for our peid ... aces. I do not know how in Canada, but the Germans are already on the nose when the Turks and Arabs, having the majority, all the rainbow public are executed under Sharia law.


fzr1000
But this is correct. Thank. Take in bulk if you have enough of your own.


Seraph
Again, the topic of protecting the rights of homosexuals is in the center of the review. Even Syria is somehow obscured. You know, we stepped on the most painful western corn! Now we still need to trample and twist on it (on calluses), let their transgender schoolchildren and lesbians raped by a group suffer. It all comes together in one picture: pederastnya seizes Europe, it plunges into complete economic decline and hopelessness, the EU is falling apart, unemployment is growing, national conflicts begin to flare up, new dictators come, etc. And then we go back to tanks enter their capitals. So, at the same time we will introduce a ban on homos in Europe.


Submarine explosion

Specialists of the working group of the Zvezdochka ship repair center in Severodvinsk, where the submarine Sindurakshak, sunk in the port of the Indian city of Mumbai, was being repaired and modernized, is not allowed into the scene of the incident. About it ITAR-TASS correspondent Alexander Antipin told the representative of the Russian working group located in India.



“I was told that we would not be allowed in the near future,” he said. “All my attempts are in vain.”

According to the channel "IBN-EN", the process of pumping water from the submarine compartments can take from a day to two, and the whole rescue operation may take about a month. The operation continues to detect eighteen crew members who were aboard the submarine at the time of the accident.

Rescue operations are difficult due to poor visibility under water.

As noted by "Russian newspaper" With reference to RIA Novosti, an explosion on board a submarine could cause a powerful release of hydrogen when charging batteries. For this reason, there was already an explosion aboard the boat - in 2010.

According to an unnamed source in the Indian Navy, the Sindurakshak has 500 batteries and needs to be recharged every few months. Recharging requires a large number of technical staff. This just can explain the number of people that at night were on the submarine, who was not on duty.

Geopolitical mosaic: W. Klitschko wants to become president of Ukraine, in Estonia they will soon be banned from speaking, and the Russians killed Kennedy, organized Al-Qaeda and staged the “Arab Spring”


Comments from our readers:

experienced
100 poods, the Indians will try to blame Russia for technical malfunctions of the submarines, and therefore they do not allow, they “clear out” what ours do not need to see. Today, the info has already passed that it seems that Indians even invite our specialists to investigate a state of emergency. Apparently, everything is ready for claims ...


a52333
The batteries on the boat were Indian. Yesterday they showed "Vesti 24", to coz., I can not say who gave the interview, but someone from "Star".


Russ69
It is not yet clear what will happen ... But at the same time, the Indians are going to lease submarines in Russia. True, it is not clear which ones.


experienced
Somehow dumbly Hindu submarines leased to give ... Well, they can not normally maintain the equipment, and they have some sort of medieval order. The fact that they are decorating tanks (even the submarines) is their business, but these incense sticks when everywhere are burned and lamps in the compartments before the gods are burning, then you would have to think about what caused the fire.


Like with Mubarak

The Egyptian government announced a one-month state of emergency. The corresponding decree was signed by the interim president Adly Mansur, reports "RT" with reference to ITAR-TASS.



The Mansur’s decree notes that “due to deliberate acts of sabotage and attacks on public and private enterprises by members of extremist groups and organizations, as well as civilian deaths, the ARE military forces and the police must take all necessary measures to maintain security in the country, protect law and order, ensuring the safety of public and private property and protecting the lives of citizens ”.

The introduction of a state of emergency provides for unlimited powers of the army and security forces. The Cabinet of Ministers of Egypt ordered the introduction of a curfew in the country. He will operate from 21.00 to 6: 00 in the morning on the territory of Cairo and 10 more provinces of the country. However, tourist resort areas can be removed from its operation.

"RT" recalls that the state of emergency has operated in Egypt for thirty years and was canceled last year by the Mursi who came to power.

As for tourists, here, it seems, Egypt is waiting for an economic disaster.

As the "Voice of Russia", Russian travel agents and tour operators are advised to halt the promotion and sale of tourist products until the situation in Egypt normalizes. This is stated in the information letter "Rostourism".

Russian tourists have the unconditional right to demand termination of the contract with the tour operator. When returning the voucher, the full cost of the tour should be returned to the tourist before the start of the trip.

Geopolitical mosaic: W. Klitschko wants to become president of Ukraine, in Estonia they will soon be banned from speaking, and the Russians killed Kennedy, organized Al-Qaeda and staged the “Arab Spring”


Comments from our readers:

experienced
Such pride for compatriots yesterday was when the news passed that no Russian tourist had interrupted their holidays. Americans and Europeans hastily leave the Egyptian resorts, and our take advantage of the moment - cheapness ...


xetai9977
If Egypt falls into the abyss of civil war (and most likely it will), the internal Syrian conflict will seem like a petty war. A large country with a population of 85 million is able to blow up the entire Middle East. Terrorist attacks in Lebanon may turn out to be an overture on the involvement of this country in the Syrian conflict. There is clearly a foreign factor. Yesterday I wrote on the site that the same forces that control the world media stand behind the destabilization of the situation in the Middle East region, everywhere they stick their noses, implant their puppets and, by fooling the ordinary people, send troops to distant lands. And for this, I almost zaminusovali. Events seem to take a more serious turn than we imagined.


sergey32
He left Egypt on the thirteenth, just before the last exacerbation. Already wrote that the hotel in the last days of the rest settled full of Arabs, they behaved in a boorish way. Yesterday, the eldest daughter confessed, already before leaving, lay in a lounge chair by the pool, looked at the Internet on the phone, came a loose Arab of about thirty, grabbed her hand and said in English: "You must be my wife." My daughter was a karate woman, pulled out her hand, kicked him in the belly and kicked him into the pool and ran away. Why, I say I did not immediately say. You would say he crippled him (and I had a persistent aversion to them these days) and would be in the police, why?


Russians everywhere

In his last book, co-authored with the historian Ronald Rihlyak, who fled at the end of the 1970s. In the United States, the General of Romanian Intelligence, Ion Mihai Pachepa, theorizes about the fact that radical Islam and anti-American propaganda of the USSR in 70's were closely related. This tells "InoTV".



In the introduction to “Disinformation: a former spy reveals secret strategies to undermine civil liberties, unleash religious wars and encourage terrorism”, the USSR is said to support Islamic terrorism “and promote hostile anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism among Arabs in the Middle East.”

The authors of the book claim that Lee Harvey Oswald, John Kennedy’s murderer, was recruited by the KGB, and later implemented a plan to eliminate this president, who “was a liberal and opposed the Soviets in Cuba and authorized the overthrow of the Castro regime”.

Operation "Dragon", which was supposed to hide the guilt of the Communists, became "the most successful operation on disinformation in modern history."

Also, as the authors believe, there is evidence that the Soviet Union attempted the life of John Paul II. Moreover, the death of Yasser Arafat can also stand the KGB. At the same time, it is argued that the Palestine Liberation Organization, whose leader was Arafat, is also a fruit of the KGB’s activities.

Finally, the authors also know that the Russian special services are responsible for the death of Alexander Litvinenko. He was removed because he disclosed information about the creation of Islamic terrorism by the Russians and the training of the Soviet intelligence of al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri.

Well, it is logical to assert that this Russia brought Islamist regimes to power. “Arab Spring” is her brainchild.

Crowning this whole conspiracy theory is the assertion of a Romanian general that former KGB officer Vladimir Putin built in Russia “the first ever dictatorship of intelligence”. In addition, Pacepa has almost no doubt that Russia has already developed a new generation of nuclear weapons.

It’s very strange, let’s add, as the omnipresent KGB missed April 1985 and allowed the USSR to shrink down to the Russian Federation.

Geopolitical mosaic: W. Klitschko wants to become president of Ukraine, in Estonia they will soon be banned from speaking, and the Russians killed Kennedy, organized Al-Qaeda and staged the “Arab Spring”


Comments from our readers:

Locksmith
Thank you, good selection, especially about the Romanian general, I'm under the table.


alone
Remember the movie "Caucasian Captive"?
“Excuse me, did I ruin the fortress too?”


Oskar
Russia is also the birthplace of elephants.


Ruslan_F38
Stunned, well, of course, we and the twin towers blew up.


* "Kazan ... took ... Astrakhan ... took ... Revel ... took, Shpak ... n-did not take" - a phrase from the movie "Ivan Vasilyevich Changes Profession"
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  1. +29
    18 August 2013 06: 52
    thanks. Today right in the morning the mood was lifted, so the day will be successful.
    and so early because of "absenteeism"?
    PS Congratulations on the end of the vacation. although for site visitors this is for the better
    1. +17
      18 August 2013 09: 44
      Here is an excellent report, we would also have done an analysis of the domestic political situation) we would have laughed together)

      Klitschko has already given several Russophobic interviews; he is against the Russian language in particular!
      1. +8
        18 August 2013 10: 16
        Quote: Civil
        Look great report,

        Maybe the former deputy director of the CIA also moved to us? wink
        1. +5
          18 August 2013 12: 02
          Quote: Denis
          Maybe the former deputy director of the CIA also moved to us?

          The population of this US department in Russia is already redundant, the same clown Michael McFaul running to the Russian Foreign Ministry to explain the US espionage activities in the Russian Federation is no exception ... At your leisure, read A. Kolpakidi "The main enemy is the CIA against Russia" http: //modernlib.ru/books/kolpakidi_a/glavniy_protivnik_cru_protiv_rossii/read/ you will learn a lot of interesting things wink .
          1. Good Ukraine
            +5
            18 August 2013 16: 06
            hi
            I was most amused in the picture (in the article "Russians everywhere") flying over Putin's head a rooster-LGBT person. I wonder which country's coat of arms he jumped off? good
            1. -1
              18 August 2013 17: 25
              You need something like this))))
            2. 0
              18 August 2013 19: 12
              Well, what is not clear? From where he jumped, from there he jumped
            3. -1
              19 August 2013 07: 38
              What about the SS-dagger? Not impressed?
      2. +9
        18 August 2013 11: 45
        Quote: Civil
        Klitschko has already given several Russophobic interviews; he is against the Russian language in particular!

        The moment itself is also interesting in that he himself does not fully own it. Actually, there is a comment in Gazeta.ua of the leader of the Radical Party Oleg Lyashko about the knowledge of the Ukrainian language Klitschko. Where he noted that Vitali Klitschko is better for foreigners than Ukrainians.
        “Klitschko is sincere in this matter, because he himself does not really know the Ukrainian language. We hear his speeches in the Verkhovna Rada, they do not differ from the speeches of Mykola Azarov, despite the fact that Klitschko learned English, German. Those. he treats foreigners better than Ukrainians ”, Klitschko’s double standards are far from alien ... wassat .
        1. berimor
          +10
          18 August 2013 15: 50
          Lord, we still lacked the presidency of the Neanderthal nickname !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          1. 0
            18 August 2013 19: 43
            In the State Duma no better
        2. Good Ukraine
          +11
          18 August 2013 16: 13
          hi
          Quote: Tersky
          “Klitschko is sincere in this matter, because he himself does not really know the Ukrainian language. We hear his speeches in the Verkhovna Rada, they do not differ from the speeches of Mykola Azarov,


          Surprising:
          Kuchma - Threesome
          Yushchenko - also did not shine with his mind, even in comparison with the previous
          Yanukovych - just no words
          Klitschko - The culmination of the series "Dumb and Dumber" good

          Where do we find them? good
          1. +5
            18 August 2013 16: 58
            They are all from there ... like everyone else. There is no other place. And then everyone lives his own mind, if he, of course, is.
          2. +7
            18 August 2013 17: 59
            Quote: Dobryak Ukraine
            Where do we find them?

            Well, Ukraine is rich not only in bread but also ....
          3. +2
            18 August 2013 19: 16
            Cockroaches themselves find gaps
          4. SASCHAmIXEEW
            -1
            19 August 2013 11: 11
            In the same place where we are, in a Jewish overseas money bag! They overwhelmed the whole world with their fanatical muckulature !!!
        3. +1
          18 August 2013 19: 14
          Mova, Mova ... How hard are you for a true kilichko
        4. SASCHAmIXEEW
          0
          19 August 2013 11: 04
          Klitschko is akin to Schwarzenegger, but at least he grew up Sassa, and this pure traitor-policeman, is going to spread rot Slavs, it is not possible that reasonable people are worn out in Ukraine and they will allow the power of the bruised on the head !!! This cannot be !!! Such active on the Maidan- it is not possible only for the money go to the rights to download, well, purely like "ours" with Bolotnaya ...! The same venal scum !!!
      3. predator.3
        +7
        18 August 2013 12: 27
        cool humpback photo! hang on the wall.
        1. -6
          18 August 2013 12: 35
          On the wall is better than Putin in a helmet
        2. +11
          18 August 2013 16: 33
          Quote: predator.3
          cool humpback photo! hang on the wall.

          ... please specify ... what or whom to hang
          - photo on the wall
          --or time to hang ...
          Personally, I .. for both options!
          1. 0
            18 August 2013 19: 20
            Boris + Only next time do not get ahead of the Old
          2. 0
            19 August 2013 11: 22
            Anecdote to the topic (about 20 years ago):
            The president of one country stands in front of his portrait hanging on the wall and says:
            - Soon they’ll take off with you ...
            And the portrait answers him:
            “No, they’ll take me off, and they will hang me!”
        3. +3
          18 August 2013 19: 18
          Please specify WHAT to hang for
          1. 0
            20 August 2013 22: 51
            why they’ll catch for that and let them hang
      4. phantom359
        +11
        18 August 2013 16: 51
        Quote: Civil
        Here is an excellent report, we would also have done an analysis of the domestic political situation) we would have laughed together)

        Klitschko has already given several Russophobic interviews; he is against the Russian language in particular!

        He went fucking. In Ukraine, he practically does not live, hangs in Germany, so let him shake his rights there. How much he respected him before and how much I can’t stand it now, especially when the blacks spat on his face and he wiped himself off. Politician, damn it. Nehai heals Baska.
        1. +4
          18 August 2013 19: 22
          "Nehay heals the head" Do you remember how ALI (Cassius Clay) finished? The head is not being treated ...
          1. +1
            18 August 2013 19: 37
            Ali does not need to be compared here
            1. +1
              18 August 2013 19: 48
              Gleb, a man’s head is one. And we should be friends with her
        2. +4
          18 August 2013 20: 07
          I respect Klitschko, but to choose the presidency of a person who has been hit on the head for his whole conscious life ... it is annoying.
      5. +3
        18 August 2013 19: 09
        They are not Ukrainians for a long time. They forgot where the legs grow from.
      6. 0
        23 August 2013 01: 56
        Quote: Civil

        Klitschko has already given several Russophobic interviews; he is against the Russian language in particular!

        October 5, we all cheer for Povetkin! smile
    2. w.ebdo.g
      +8
      18 August 2013 11: 09
      a good T-shirt with the President!
      it’s clear what the army is worried about.
      The president really understands that the state is obliged to spend money on its army, otherwise it will spend on someone else’s ...
      1. w.ebdo.g
        +15
        18 August 2013 11: 13
        pay attention to how these two people stand ...
        one confidently and independently, and with the other two fingers sticks and with the other hand straight hugged the rack, apparently very afraid to fall ...
        the character of these personalities is not consciously manifested.
        one firm, mischievous and stubborn (and swindler smile ) and the second is soft and cowardly)))
        1. w.ebdo.g
          +32
          18 August 2013 11: 16
          no matter how bad they say, but still THESE two guys look like real men. Military uniform to suit them ...
          I respect my President.
          1. +12
            18 August 2013 12: 44
            if you compare these two photos, it becomes clear that the pike pecked at Kuzhugetovich’s hat (humor)
          2. eplewke
            0
            19 August 2013 11: 01
            two real Russian men ...
      2. Yarbay
        +6
        18 August 2013 13: 42
        Quote: w.ebdo.g
        The president really understands that the state is obliged to spend money on its army, otherwise it will spend on someone else’s ...

        Quote: w.ebdo.g
        pay attention to how these two people stand ...

        Quote: w.ebdo.g
        but still THESE two guys

        I would understand-Serdyukov would have shot for a long time !!!
        Again, three shafts)))))))))))))))))))))))))
        Not tired ??)))))))
        1. Oskar
          +2
          18 August 2013 14: 26
          And not only Serdyukov. Good people with us - they look at the photos and are touched, sing praises and do not need anything else. Guest channels have seen enough. Soon they will offer prayers, or maybe they will already offer prayers in religious ecstasy, judging by the rhetoric. Where Cases, Cases where?
    3. 0
      18 August 2013 12: 37
      I also love the RESULTS OF THE WEEK IN
    4. w.ebdo.g
      +22
      18 August 2013 13: 18
      All the bandits in Chechnya were afraid of these guys ...
      and rightly so that they were afraid.
      1. Yarbay
        -6
        18 August 2013 13: 46
        Quote: w.ebdo.g
        All the bandits in Chechnya were afraid of these boys.

        if you strive for death, then you are not afraid of any Rambo or Omsbr !!
        1. +12
          18 August 2013 20: 06
          Yes Yes Yes. All jihad warriors are not afraid of death and dream of accepting shahda, they cannot eat already. In words. But in fact, they absolutely do not want to personally testify to Allah how much he is an akbar.
          Fools do not live long. And a man who is not afraid of death.
      2. +14
        18 August 2013 14: 16
        so you spoke so flatteringly about "yourself" above, wrote
        really understands that the state is obliged to spend money on its army, otherwise it will spend on someone else’s
        and now ask yourself, where are these people now, what is on the video. where is this unit and their experience now. and what could they teach those who have to fight in the Caucasus today and suffer losses. And this is not the only unit that did not fit in a modern look ... (((
        1. -1
          20 August 2013 23: 03
          Alexei - the commander of this unit retires rabbits (in all seriousness) and raises his sons. Although I could somewhere transfer my invaluable experience
      3. +3
        18 August 2013 15: 13
        Quote: w.ebdo.g
        All the bandits in Chechnya were afraid of these guys ...

        Respect !!!
      4. 0
        19 August 2013 02: 02
        By the way, I also did not understand what the reconnaissance company and Chechnya had to do with it, I even searched using the "Edit / Find" function of the browser using the words "reconnaissance company" and "Chechnya", but in vain ...
        I join, of course, respect for them and all that, but I couldn’t find any connection ...
        IMHO, it’s the same as in the topic devoted to tanks to link the photo of the engine from SLBMs or, say, the accelerator video from the launch vehicle and enjoy it.
    5. strange and pretty meaningless
      +3
      19 August 2013 06: 43
      Dzneladze's facial expressions in the photo are "e..ny shame". Well ... as I understand it wassat
  2. +6
    18 August 2013 07: 04
    I always thought, what for Americans to promote the Ukrainian boxer? Well, why do they need a Slavic hero-boxer? Maybe I have paranoia? Nothing just happens. Politics...
    Russians everywhere
    Yes, the truth is ... The paper will endure everything.
    It’s very strange, let’s add, as the omnipresent KGB missed April 1985 and allowed the USSR to shrink down to the Russian Federation.
    The KGB did not miss anything, there was no "GOOD" from above.
    1. Hudo
      +10
      18 August 2013 07: 12
      Quote: Alexej
      I always thought, what for Americans to promote the Ukrainian boxer?


      About the same as the Georgian lawyer Mishiko Nikolozovich galstukoshvili.
    2. +14
      18 August 2013 07: 16
      why did you decide what the Americans are promoting?
      by the way the way to the top of the brothers was interesting

      Volodymyr Klitschko, crime boss Borovik (shot in August 2000 in Kiev), crime boss Rybka (shot in May 2005 in Kiev), Vitaliy Klichko. New York, 1996, photo taken before visiting Don King's office. From the personal archive of "Fish" declassified GUBOP Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7YHchT9s9s

      March 20, 2002. Klitschko brothers advertise the candidate for people's deputies in the 183rd district of Igor Bakay. Rivne, Ukraine
      1. Hudo
        +12
        18 August 2013 07: 24
        Quote: Gleb
        why did you decide what the Americans are promoting?


        And why would a normal person jump in the ring with an orange rag tied to his underpants?
        1. +3
          18 August 2013 07: 30
          not quite in the subject, please explain. orange is it like? in the ring saw the flag of Ukraine always
          1. +6
            18 August 2013 12: 11
            Quote: Gleb
            Please explain. Orange is how?

            Orange, ... the flag of Ukraine is yellow-black ...
            1. +1
              18 August 2013 12: 48
              Well, like what kind of orange he is. Well, yes. He seems to be not hiding.
              the truth about the Hudo shorts was probably a bit hot. I don’t remember the tied yellow rag to the shorts
              I hope Hudo confirms his words with a reference to this. Interesting
              1. +6
                18 August 2013 17: 56
                Quote: Gleb
                . Something I do not remember the tied yellow rag to underpants

                There was such a moment, December 11, 2004 Fight Klitschko-Danny Williams. Moreover, in shorts of the same color, he spoke with the inscription "So! Yushchenko!" : (http://www.expert.org.ua/?st=2&id=24752) So this is an old "orange" grown in Yuscha's garden ... more precisely, both of them.
                1. +4
                  18 August 2013 19: 00
                  thank you Victor! I’m not at all interested in what kind of an orange he is and his political commitment, but this moment with a rag is interesting news for me. Just like a sporting moment. Thank you!
                  1. +3
                    18 August 2013 20: 08
                    Quote: Gleb
                    It’s like a sporting moment. Thank you!

                    Not at all, Gleb. The work is small, and I myself am a big boxing fan, so, as they say, it was not difficult ..
      2. +12
        18 August 2013 11: 00
        Quote: Gleb
        why did you decide what the Americans are promoting?
        by the way the way to the top of the brothers was interesting


        I never even suspected that the brothers were directly involved in crime.
        After reading your comment, I decided to "dig" on the net myself, and this is what the search engine "issued":


        The leader of the Kiev Civil Asset, Alexander Pabat, says that Vitali Klitschko suffers from a loss of memory when he is asked questions about his work and friendship with the criminal authority Rybka and the odious oligarch Igor Bakai.

        According to Pabat, “in the 90's, only a person who arrived in Kiev did not know that Klitschko began his career with torpedoes at Rybka, the criminal authority Vitaliy Rybalko. They earned, so to speak, start-up capital and gained combat experience. There is a lot of information about this on the Internet, where not only photos are posted, but also videos of Klitschko and “Fish”. So I was surprised to read an interview with Vitali Klitschko, where he says that anyone could take a picture with him, and the photos with Rybka are random, and the Klitschko brothers came to Don King with the bandits Rybka and Borovik supposedly the composition of the delegation, and also purely by chance. These explanations are striking in their immobility. Klitschko accidentally solves business issues with bandits, travels the world, goes to restaurants - and all this is completely accidental. The most mysterious thing in this whole story is that the authority of Rybka and the authority of Borovik, with which the Klitschko brothers worked closely, were shot (in 2005 and 2000, respectively. - Ed). And they can no longer tell us on what conditions they collaborated with Klitschko, what share of the profit they received from the organization of his battles, and who ordered their murder and why. Obviously, today Klitschko begin to suffer from memory loss when they are asked questions about their friendship with Rybka, with the odious oligarch Bakai. I think the leader of the party, which is going to go to the Verkhovna Rada, should not show such deceit. The videos clearly show that the delegation that met with Don King included only the Klitschko brothers and two authorities, Rybka and Borovik. I think that these details of Klitschko’s biography, which he was embarrassed to tell in an interview with Ukrainian Truth, should be investigated. Because in European countries, relations with the mafia are an indelible stain on the reputation of a politician. Because these ties with the mafia are not broken to this day. I hope that Klitschko themselves did not take part in outright crime. But why lie about your biography? Let them repent, say yes, we were friends with Rybka, it was a mistake. But Vitali Klitschko lies like Clinton in the scandal with Lewinsky. Clinton was not condemned because he had cheated on his wife, but because he had lied under oath. Now Klitschko is stepping on this rake. ”
        URL:http://versii.com/culture/
        1. +9
          18 August 2013 15: 25
          Quote: Corsair
          Now Klitschko is stepping on this rake. ”

          In every region of Russia, all former authorities, if they are alive, are now presidents of sports federations, shareholders of enterprises, deputies, for Russia this is normal. If the same Rybka had not been shot in those years, then 100% would now sit in the Ukrainian Rada and "work" like everyone else, for the good of Ukraine. These are the realities.
          1. 0
            19 August 2013 01: 23
            Quote: Denis
            If the same Rybka had not been shot in those years, then 100% would now sit in the Ukrainian Rada and "work" like everyone else, for the good of Ukraine. These are the realities.


            I do not argue, but the "%" of the "non-fired" is extremely small, most of them "overwhelmed" themselves, some were "removed from the road" by the "organs" and finally drugs and "other bad excesses" completed the job ...

            As they say, in the USA up to 80% of a legal business was acquired at the time with criminal funds ...
            And where is the money there and politics. Therefore, in this case, we are no exception.
    3. +5
      18 August 2013 07: 47
      Quote: Alexej
      Nothing just happens. Policy...

      Pep in the morning is good! Despite the fact that politics ... even if you close the door in front of it, it crawls into all the windows and holes. So this is not paranoia ... this is politics. And drawing conclusions from modern politics you come to the conclusion:
      - if you want to be happy in RUSSIA - steal at least a billion ... like Serdyukov and Vasilyeva, then they will not put me ... but they will only threaten with a finger ...
      - if you want to be happy in EUROPE, go to, ugh, you can't even type this word, it’s so unpleasant ... but it’s necessary, otherwise the world community will not let into its happy "shitty community" ...
      - if you want to be happy and that life in the army is "chocolate", go serve in the army of ESTONIA ...
      And there are more and more such "DISCUSSIONS" of modern POLITICS every day! Inevitably, you start to think about the medical diagnoses of some politicians.
      But I don’t want anything at all ... something my SECOND CONSCIOUSNESS will tell me that it's time to take NOT ONLY KAZAN ... ASTRAKHAN ... (and further down the list), and SHPAK, that is, SERDYUKOV and K * , KNOW FROM THE COUNTRY OF ALL FANS OF UNIVERSAL SIN ... only then the RUSSIAN SOUL WILL BE HAPPY.
    4. Constantine
      +7
      18 August 2013 08: 49
      Quote: Alexej
      I always thought, what for Americans to promote the Ukrainian boxer? Well, why do they need a Slavic hero-boxer? Maybe I have paranoia? Nothing just happens. Politics...


      Yeah wassat So the Lord has not yet experienced Ukraine recourse

      The main slogan will be "Eeeeeeeeee ... well, you understand better. We will build many new stadiums, in! Eeeeeeeeee ..." lol Well, or something like that.

      In the case, it’s a pity to Ukraine. Very very sorry recourse
      1. +5
        18 August 2013 11: 32
        Constantine
        Hello. Unfortunately, you can’t name the tongue-tied nickname, and he gives the impression of a quite reasonable politician ... and against the background of the leading Ukrainian politicians who have paraffinized, he, in my opinion. there’s a chance for the presidency ... it’s a pity that he is an ardent supporter of European integration and a fairly obvious ill-wisher of Russia ... and our trouble is that, apparently, among the more or less significant politicians of Ukraine there is something unnoticed by a person who could maintain in the hope that he will truly develop good neighborly relations with Russia ....
        1. +3
          18 August 2013 12: 09
          Quote: smile
          Hello. Unfortunately, you can’t name the tongue-tied nickname, and he gives the impression of a quite reasonable politician ... and against the background of the leading Ukrainian politicians who have paraffinized, he, in my opinion. there’s a chance for the presidency ... it’s a pity that he is an ardent supporter of European integration and a fairly obvious ill-wisher of Russia ... and our trouble is that, apparently, among the more or less significant politicians of Ukraine there is something unnoticed by a person who could maintain in the hope that he will truly develop good neighborly relations with Russia ....


          For "Eurointegration" economic, financial, social ... besides, God knows how many "platforms".
          Until the contradictions are resolved, first of all in the Ukrainian civil society - to stand Ukraine as an "armored train" - "on a side track."
          And from the status of a loser "in the world it will not be relieved ..." neither God, nor the Tsar and not the Hero "should be dear to YOURSELF, YOURSELF! to European integration "forty years as a famous character in the Bible ...
          1. +5
            18 August 2013 12: 30
            Corsair
            Of course, they won’t take Ukraine anywhere just like that ... the question is the degree of this integration, and also that when voicing your choice in favor of becoming a European slave, Ukraine will move even further away from us ... of course, such a path is for Ukraine, the way to the trash ... but neither us nor the Ukrainians from this is easier.
            By the way, I am convinced that the admission of Ukraine to the European Union, which is breathable, is excluded in principle.
            1. +4
              18 August 2013 13: 44
              Quote: smile
              By the way, I am convinced that the admission of Ukraine to the European Union, which is breathable, is excluded in principle.


              But the "whistle" raised around the generally empty event began to excite "unstable" minds on both sides of the border. And it's annoying ...
            2. +2
              18 August 2013 20: 27
              Quote: smile
              just because they will not accept Ukraine anywhere ..

              Can and accept laughing , ask what does it mean in convict slang, for example, to play "point" not for money but "just like that" wink Valentine, hi !
              1. 0
                19 August 2013 01: 12
                Quote: Tersky
                but "just like that"


                "ON INTEREST"
        2. Constantine
          +3
          18 August 2013 12: 14
          Quote: smile
          Hello.

          hi

          Quote: smile
          and our trouble is that, apparently, among the more or less significant politicians of Ukraine, there is something unnoticed by a person who could be supported in the hope that he would really develop good neighborly relations with Russia ....


          So you need to grow it) At least it's time to start thinking and solving the issue with your own there. The EU and the USA have been doing this for 20 years. Although, it is quite possible that ours has its own calculation. Thiner. smile
          1. +4
            18 August 2013 12: 34
            Constantine
            Oh, how I would like you to be right ... but I got the impression that our work with Ukrainian politicians is not yet consistent ... we can only hope for a "fine calculation" ...: ((((
            1. +2
              18 August 2013 20: 35
              Quote: smile
              .but I got the impression that our work with Ukrainian politicians is not yet consistent ...

              Or, nevertheless, Ukrainian politicians do not differ in sequence winked ? Spin like a weather vane in windy weather ... Do not guess with any subtle calculation ..
              1. +1
                18 August 2013 21: 09
                Tersky
                Yes, you’re right here, alas, to hell with them ...
        3. +1
          18 August 2013 14: 54
          and quite obvious ill-wisher of Russia
          Well, guys, let me read about his corrupt little soul? Is there any interesting reading matter about his hostile attitude towards Russia? (I will have an argument in the fight against fila. Overcome))

          1. +1
            18 August 2013 16: 46
            Hleb
            I have such an opinion based on his interviews, which I came across, mainly on the topic of the Russian language, European integration and various controversial interstate issues .... forgive me, bastard, I don’t have such ready-made links, but to search- to scrap ... you need to turn to google or to the guys from Ukraine ... sorry again.
    5. +3
      18 August 2013 10: 41
      The KGB led this shrinking. Humpback Andropov moved
      1. 0
        20 August 2013 23: 13
        if moved then why it ended so quickly and suddenly
    6. +1
      18 August 2013 12: 29
      Quote: Alexej
      I always thought, what for Americans to promote the Ukrainian boxer? Well, why do they need a Slavic hero-boxer?

      Do you happen to be fishing? Remember, when a good crucian caught on a hook ... while swallowing deep ... it can be driven as you want ... it will be as nice to follow your movements ...
      Here in the role of "good crucian carp" and acts KLICHKO !!! Popular! Recognizable! He rarely speaks with his thoughts ... and even then, so-so ... not on fundamental issues ... He sits well on the hook! It's time to steer them! ...
    7. Yarosvet
      +2
      18 August 2013 16: 08
      Quote: Alexej
      The KGB did not miss anything, there was no "GOOD" from above.

      Its main function was to protect the country and the socio-political system from external and internal enemies and threats - for the performance of this function, "good" with the above is not a necessary condition.
      The Committee was one of the main (if not the main) persons involved in the process of destruction of the Union.
  3. waisson
    +2
    18 August 2013 07: 49
    RELATIVELY HAVE NOT BEEN IN THE NETWORK ON THE SITE LIKE MUCH LIKE MUCH MUCH FOR A COLLECTION I WILL MAKE A SOLID 5
  4. +12
    18 August 2013 08: 03
    Russians everywhere

    Being on business in Marseille, we went to the local supermarket, we go talking (in Russian, of course),
    thinking that since we are so far from the Motherland, nobody understands us)))) and suddenly the phrase is in pure Russian ..... EVERYTHING THESE RUSSIAN laughing
    1. +19
      18 August 2013 08: 30
      A friend told me that they went to England on business, go in the evening, drank a little, came up to them with four Arabian looks and said they were digging in the manger, a friend thought about a knife or something, and the friend was with a friend, so he In response, yes you went to ... That in response, Russian? Well, a friend answered with a proposal from the mat, after 4 seconds they went on.

      ps
      Of course, mate - this is extremely bad, since they use it too much, but the fact that Europeans are really afraid of Russians as fire, I judge not only on this occasion, is a fact. (Arabs who are in England, specially written with a small letter, are now also Europeans, they just have different values, build an Islamic state, etc., etc.)
      pss
      About the Islamic state, it’s funny enough, Christmas is banned in Sweden (in some cities), Germany introduces a law on paid religion, of course Catholicism, but not Islam. Soon Europe will really become Islamic, play out, and a good half are radically inclined.
      psss
      And do not blame me that I am opposed to Islam, but I am against the construction of mosques in Moscow, since this is the Orthodox part of the country, but in Kazan I am absolutely not opposed to either Grozny, Makhachkala, just the last 20 years, Islam has been very brightly radical and it’s faster a plague of peace than a peaceful religion. Only those who are real Muslims and those who use this religion for the good do not want to stop pseudo Islam and radical fanatics. All this is strange ...
  5. +10
    18 August 2013 09: 02
    Very happy for Russia! We rise slowly (although the problems are even higher than the roof ..) and yet With such people as we, we will turn mountains !! Now many mongrel tails are pressed so yapping from the bushes (for order) .. The article, as always, is a plus and many comments too !!
    1. fedorovith
      +10
      18 August 2013 12: 15
      As Alferov said, pessimists left Russia, but the optimists remained, here they are, and the rainbow will fall down, ++ definitely.
      1. Cadet787
        +1
        18 August 2013 14: 18
        As a sign of reconciliation with the pen-sami and their main brooding monkey, send all fagots and lesbians to permanent residence in the states.
  6. +9
    18 August 2013 09: 03
    Let the whole of Europe accept homosexuals, but we will not have them. No body, no business.
    1. +6
      18 August 2013 09: 07
      Slogan!
      "Gays of the world unite, Europe will accept you!"
    2. Constantine
      +2
      18 August 2013 09: 26
      Quote: Starshina wmf
      Let the whole of Europe accept homosexuals, but we will not have them. No body, no business.


      If he accepts, then immigrants from Russia will begin to punish the West not only morally, but also naturally. wassat
    3. 0
      18 August 2013 15: 59
      Quote: Starshina wmf
      Let the whole of Europe accept homosexuals, but we will not have them. No body, no business.

      Soon in Europe, only gays and Wahhabis will remain of the population.
      1. +1
        18 August 2013 21: 52
        Hobbits, wah, gays instantly multiply to zero
    4. +2
      18 August 2013 19: 15
      Quote: Starshina wmf
      May All Europe Take Homosexuals

      This is the right topic!
      Who abandoned our homeland, that - n ... races!))
  7. ed65b
    +15
    18 August 2013 09: 10
    Soon the battle Povetkin Klitschko, if Povetkin wins, the second will go to take revenge? It will be fun, Povetkin filled the face of the President of Ukraine and still received money for it laughing
    1. +6
      18 August 2013 11: 47
      ed65b
      We have a lot of Ukrainians in the Kaliningrad region, mostly builders ... I recently talked with such foremen ... although they are Westerners, they consider themselves moderate :))) - he says that they are sure of Klitschka's victory and perceive this battle, like - "Ukraine will punish Rossiyu" .... by the way, most of them quite negatively assess Russia, Putin is considered an imperialist, the majority of the people in the swamps, they do not want the vehicle, they are angry with our media, they believe that all these beating of veterans are provocations. .. moreover, ours, Tyagnibok is good, they just misunderstood him, and his words were perverted by the 1st channel .... they interrupted the conversation on these topics, noticing that I was boiling (I was surprised at myself - usually my emotions are invisible) ... painful impression ...
      1. +2
        18 August 2013 14: 24
        It was necessary to tell them that they would begin to learn a foreign language.
        And declare them to the migration service so that just in case they checked.
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          1. +4
            18 August 2013 17: 56
            Humanly, of course, is correct.
            Honestly, I don’t understand the hatred of Ukrainians for Russia,
            specifically grown territory, industry,
            wanted independence got it.
            Ireland nervously smokes on the sidelines.
            1. +3
              18 August 2013 19: 21
              Quote: gecko
              Honestly, I don’t understand the hatred of Ukrainians towards Russia, they specifically grew in territory, industry

              Do not help, and you will not help!))
              But seriously. You cannot help at your own expense those who are going to "just live")).
    2. +1
      18 August 2013 17: 34
      The leader of the party “BLOW”, the world champion in boxing heavyweight champion WBC Vitali Klitschko intends to run for president of Ukraine in 2015, according to the website of the World Boxing Council (WBC).

      According to the report, during a meeting with WBC President Jose Suleiman, V. Klitschko noted that he wants to continue to participate in politics and "run for president of his country in 2015."

      The athlete emphasized that boxing greatly helps him to be prepared to participate in political life, thanks to the fact that he develops strategic thinking, discipline, honesty, teamwork, which are necessary in order to be successful.
      1. Alex 241
        +7
        18 August 2013 17: 53
        Actress Maria Kozhevnikova, famous for the role of Alla Grishko in the comedy series "Univer", is the new deputy of the State Duma.
        Her father, a well-known hockey player in the past, Alexander Kozhevnikov, is now a regular partner in this game, Minister Sergei Shoigu and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin.
        1. 0
          18 August 2013 21: 44
          GIVE A NEW PARTY OF NATURALS! with Masha at the head ... although I like the Slav Senchukov closer.
  8. +21
    18 August 2013 09: 15
    The US President said that he intends to take a “pause” in relations with Russia, without specifying what he had in mind.

    Apparently decided to take advice
  9. +6
    18 August 2013 09: 15
    The key points of Obama’s statement are as follows: 1) Medvedev’s praise of Putin’s peak (under Medvedev, they say, US-Russian relations have made great progress) ...

    Yes, "progress" ... Still, they would not like Medvedev, lay in front of them for any reason, performed all their "Wishlist". I think I even tried to fulfill the "counter plan" in order to please the owners:
    Medvedev noted Gorbachev's outstanding services as Russia's highest award

    ... tried to spoil the country as much as possible, put the country on its knees in front of the whole WORLD, almost recognized the USSR as guilty of the Second World War.
    Together with Gorbochev, he must be constantly BURNED in the press, so that he would also know how the people "love" him!
    1. Yarbay
      +9
      18 August 2013 09: 50
      Quote: ia-ai00
      Still they would not like Medvedev, lay in front of them for any reason, did all their "Wishlist". I think I even tried to fulfill the "counter plan" in order to please the owners:

      So what then does Putin keep him in the Prime Ministers ??
      Honestly, you are like small children)))
      Medvedev has one boss and this is Putin !!
      There can be no other!
      1. +2
        18 August 2013 10: 35
        But what, then Putin has the CIA owners?
        1. grafrozow
          +3
          18 August 2013 13: 27
          I don’t know about the owners, but the friends in the photo.
        2. Yarbay
          +1
          18 August 2013 14: 12
          Quote: ia-ai00
          But what, then Putin has the CIA owners?

          Are you asking me or asked a question to yourself?
          Why is Medvedev at least not in exile, but caressed?))))))))))
          It’s just that you are really cool bred so that they pursue different policies and don’t understand each other)))))))))))
        3. +2
          18 August 2013 16: 01
          Quote: ia-ai00
          But what, then Putin has the CIA owners?

          What kind of nonsense, Medvedev played his role assigned to him.
        4. Yarosvet
          0
          18 August 2013 16: 18
          Quote: ia-ai00
          But what, then Putin has the CIA owners?

          They are not freeloaders the owners are partners.
      2. +2
        18 August 2013 11: 59
        Yarbay
        Greetings, a hundred years did not communicate! :))

        You know, I don’t think that Medved is Putin’s slave .... :))) I am more and more inclined to think that he is just a protege of a non-pro-Putin group ... Ascetic sets forth this version most justifiably here. In any case, during the presidency of the Lady, I am convinced that he was a completely independent figure — this is how he became a divisional commander, and the Chief of Staff, regardless of their relationship, the last word is still for the commander — a vivid illustration — the moment when he surrendered Libya Dam publicly quipped Putin like a cat, saying. that his opinion on foreign policy matters does not matter.
        So, in my opinion, maybe something else, maybe .... and I really don't like it ...
        1. Yarbay
          +2
          18 August 2013 14: 19
          Quote: smile
          You know, I don’t think that Medved is Putin’s slave ...

          Well, do not make yourself laugh!
          He was and remains a stooge of his Master, who made him out of nothing !! He is not a slave, but an obedient performer!
          Quote: smile
          In any case, during the presidency of the Lady, I am convinced that he was a completely independent figure, this is how he became a divisional commander, and

          No, they tried to label them like that!
          Naturally, he did not contact Putin on all issues, but he did not dare to solve the main issues without him!
          Quote: smile
          when surrendering Libya, Dam publicly quilted Putin like a cat

          Well, it wasn’t quite like that !!
          Also a game !!
          And when there was a war with Georgia, Putin answered the phones of Medvedev!
          When Putin needed Medvedev stood by and did not dare to utter a laugh !!
          It will always be that way, he's on a leash!
          Do not fall for ridiculous comparisons !!))
          1. +5
            18 August 2013 16: 22
            Yarbay
            And you have changed .... why would it ..... This is probably because we did not communicate for a long time? ...
            There is sound grain in your reasoning ... but only grain.
            1. Where does the information come from that Putin answered by phone to Medved? They themselves saw that he had squeezed out his cellphone from Dama? ... Or did someone tell you? Who!
            2. Putin’s public flogging, when the bear smugly omitted it in not very correct words (and if translated from diplomatic into Russian, it’s almost an area of ​​abuse), hit Putin’s image very well. Why did Putin need this? Especially. that when he commented on the statements of Medved, he could hardly save his face - this is obvious to everyone who saw it. Why is this for Putin?
            3. If the surrender of Libya is Putin’s cunning plan, why didn’t he surrender to Syria? Where does such inconsistency come from? Where is the logic? It would be interesting to hear a clear explanation.
            Since when did you begin to advise you not to make ridiculous comparisons - previously, did you relate to this completely differently? Why?
            4. Request - please try to explain, if you are not lazy, why is this a game. What are your reasons to think so.
            By the way, the fact that Putin at the beginning of the DAM presidency had a greater influence is understandable, DAM is less experienced, but here the war, he was just confused, you remember. how his voice trembled. when he stated that our troops went to force Georgian war criminals to peace?

            And yet, I won’t make myself laugh, I hope you will remember this and take it into account for the future.
            1. Yarbay
              +3
              18 August 2013 18: 13
              Quote: smile
              And yet, I won’t make myself laugh, I hope you will remember this and take it into account for the future.

              taken into account!
              Quote: smile
              1. Where does the information come from that Putin answered by phone to Medved? They themselves saw that he had squeezed out his cellphone from Dama? ... Or did someone tell you? Who!

              yes full of information!
              A day later, Saakashvili cries about it))
              Sarkozy wrote and Erdogan!
              Quote: smile
              Why did Putin need this?

              what a flogging ???
              He didn’t even name Putin with fear, but for pro forma he said that the government should let them do their own thing!
              Why is it for Putin so that you have no doubt that he has nothing to do with it !!
              Quote: smile
              3. If the surrender of Libya is Putin’s cunning plan, why didn’t he surrender to Syria?

              And where to take it further ??
              And Libya surrendered everything, not just Russia, but here you can fight, China is nearby, Iran!
              Quote: smile
              4. Request - please try to explain

              I already explained to mine!
              And the very first enemy is not given such a position, especially a person like Putin !!
              I would erase the powders of Medvedev !!
      3. Oskar
        +1
        18 August 2013 14: 09
        And Putin appointed Yeltsin and Co. as successor. All these are links of one chain ...
        1. +1
          18 August 2013 16: 04
          Oskar
          That. that .... proclaimed him on TV as his successor, does not mean that .... he picked up the candidacy. He could have been forced to this. In favor of this version is the fact that Putin almost immediately removed the rivalry and his family from power ... that Pu provided the criminal and his family with immunity quite understandably, probably this is part of a deal to peacefully transfer power ... just what or to explain otherwise it is impossible to abruptly change course and stop the collapse of the country — you yourself know that our potential friends, already in full swing plans to take control of our nuclear weapons, would only welcome the further collapse of Russia ... and we really hoped for it ....
          1. Oskar
            +5
            18 August 2013 17: 58
            smile
            While I see the change of one family to another, and its members seem to have an even more exorbitant appetite.
            Anything useful that has been done in 13 years could have been done in a year or two. The rest of the time, unnecessary laws were adopted, canceled, and again entered into force; services were renamed; ministries and departments were divided and merged again. And all this against the background of terrorist attacks in the country, the continuing "dark" privatization, the loss of science, education and science-intensive industry and the terrible growth of corruption, the constant appointment of inept ministers.
            The key failures of EBN's policy have not been corrected (the results of privatization, etc.), the situation with freedom of speech is awful (the only thing for which EBN could be respected is that he was never a coward, although he was a scoundrel, and the media did not afraid). Some loud slogans are heard. (here are the failed national projects; we are doubling the GDP, we are doubling it, but we cannot double it (if only inflation will help or it is possible to build an oil pipeline with a diameter of a kilometer) literally 20 years ago (with a tail) ago, we possessed the strongest army and a unique military-industrial complex. The greatest people are not even on the sidelines and enthusiastically follow the "success" of the "modernization" of the army and the fight against footcloths. We have been weaned from winning, killing, dying (dying An elephant constantly gives birth to a mouse. 13 years is a long time ... The USSR, after the Great Victory during this time, was the first in the world to launch an artificial satellite of the Earth (and they managed to restore the country). It is terrible that people are humiliated and forced to count (it already looks like unconscious level) that it is necessary to rejoice at the pitiful crumbs (which do not in any way correct the general situation.) No one even thinks to call the authorities to answer the questions: what was done, how was done, okay? Statistics are a terrible enemy of our government. It has become in the order of things with a clever look to abandon pre-election debates. They have nothing to tell us? A real man always has something to say !!!
            Sorry for the confusion-boiling.
            1. -3
              18 August 2013 19: 02
              Oskar

              1. If it is easy to list family members and positions. which replaced the Elbon clan. I personally do not know anything about members of the Pu family in power and am curious. So?
              2. Sorry, but you are clearly a man of genius, everything that has been done over 9 years (none of today's opponents of POCA has been able to make indisputable arguments in favor of the fact that Dam did not have his own policy, but was only obediently following Pu's orders) you could do it in a year and a half ... or didn’t you mean yourself? Then tell me, which of the existing politicians could cope with what Pu did in 9 years? This is an important question - I am really interested in your opinion.

              3. We have much more freedom of speech than in Europe and the USA ... much more. For example - In the year of the last elections, in winter in Vilnius, there was a liquid manifestation of poor people dissatisfied with the economic policy of the government - there the dynamics of the state of the state is inversely proportional to ours - the manifestation was dispersed with the use of violence. all detained ordinary Lithuanians received good fines from 20 thousand litas to 50 thousand ... all who could not pay the fine within the time limit established by law were instantly evicted from their apartments. addressed to the payment of the fine ... more recently, this spring, a person who at a rally shouted insults at the President of Lithuania scribbles complaints with a request to replace the fine with imprisonment, does not want his family to lose their apartment ... this is what I personally read in the local press ... for example in the newspaper "Lietuvos Rytas" .... Do you want such freedom of speech?
              In other words, your statement that we do not have freedom of speech is a lie ... I don’t know if you deliberately or you are mistaken in good faith, but a lie is a lie ...
              4. Not everything has been fixed .... now all the oppositionists are yelling that Pu-tyrant ... imagine what would happen in the country if he acted more harshly, moreover, illegally ... you know that is statute of limitations? Do you know that even with its increase, this change cannot have retroactive effect? You are aware that even in the most critical times of Soviet power, the country's leadership did not allow such violations of their own laws .... by the way, I do not say that I am not impressed by the idea of ​​deprivatization - I’m for! ... But by other methods and within the law...
              5. In addition to failures, mistakes and generally incomprehensible actions, Putin has a lot of achievements. which you can’t see only intentionally ....
              I understand your confusion and believe that your sharp and biased, in my opinion, estimates are caused precisely by emotions, and not by malicious intent or other reasons .... I also have a lot of things boiling .... and I don’t understand or like a lot ... but I try not to allow emotions when assessing any situation, including the situation in the country, otherwise the probability of error is high ...
              1. Oskar
                +6
                18 August 2013 19: 51
                smile
                1. In this context, not a family, but a "family" (according to the Sicilian type)
                2. None of the existing public politicians. I think Primakov, but he has not been a politician for a long time thanks to EBN, BAB and Dorenko. Regarding DAM: I think that of his own initiatives are time zones, ppm, and police-police. Dali steer, nothing to say))). Self-expressed))). No longer remembered by anything. The general course did not deviate one iota. What was his own policy then? Explain its identity.
                3. Europe and the United States for me are not an authority in any area, I am not even a supporter of democracy. Before the sinking of the Kursk nuclear submarine, there was freedom of speech, then appropriate conclusions were drawn. Look at the current Russian news - there are no analysts at all, many events are not covered at all. Some catastrophes (you can't get away from modern reality), United Russia congresses, soap operas, pseudo-historical films about ailing Soviet reality and DOM-2.
                4. If there was a desire and will, it was possible to fix it in the shortest possible time. Heart-rending cries that the revision of the results of privatization will lead to a civil war is simply ridiculous. Neither you nor I go to the barricades for the property of the "Abramovich" I think we will not go.
                5. There are achievements, I will not argue, of course. And I think that if it were not for Putin, in 2000 a man could have come who would have "drained" the country in one fell swoop. But for 13 years ... I am not talking about who could have done everything quickly and well, but about the fact that Putin did everything slowly and insufficiently (very much).
                1. Yarbay
                  +3
                  18 August 2013 21: 09
                  Quote: Oskar
                  If there was a desire and will, it was possible to fix it as soon as possible.

                  I completely agree with everything that you wrote !!!
                2. Yarosvet
                  -1
                  18 August 2013 21: 30
                  Quote: Oskar
                  In this context, not a family, but a "family" (according to the Sicilian type)
                3. 0
                  20 August 2013 12: 42
                  Quote: Oskar
                  Regarding DAM: I think that of his own initiatives are time zones, ppm, and police-police. Dali steer, nothing to say))).

                  - What is the innovation of the artist Petrov-Vodkin? ...
                  - That he had a snack with melted cheese ...
                  hi
            2. Alrid
              0
              18 August 2013 19: 32
              Everything that was done useful in 13 years could be done in a year or two.


              How do you know how and for how long? Still not invented a magic wand, so nothing happens right away.
              1. Oskar
                +3
                18 August 2013 19: 52
                Let's wait another 20 years? Busting cemeteries?
        2. 0
          18 August 2013 16: 05
          Quote: Oskar
          And Putin appointed Yeltsin and Co. as successor. All these are links of one chain ...

          The main thing is not who appointed and how (all means are good for achieving the goal, well, or almost all), the main goal is achieved, Putin is the president (thank God), and then he has his own head.
          1. 0
            18 August 2013 17: 42
            Denis
            I agree.
        3. 0
          19 August 2013 19: 03
          Your KO miscalculated a little, or, more simply, again, about the bosses
      4. +1
        18 August 2013 19: 27
        Quote: Yarbay
        Honestly, you are like small children))) Medvedev has one boss and this is Putin !!

        At one time, Putin Hodor planted with extreme stress)).
        Or do you sincerely believe that we won the Cold War?)).
        1. Yarbay
          +3
          18 August 2013 21: 10
          Quote: ctepx
          At one time, Putin Hodor planted with extreme stress)).

          Well yes...)))))))))))))
          Although I still think and believe in what you want))))
    2. +4
      18 August 2013 10: 21
      Medvedev, even as the president did what Putin told him. Do you really think that DAM acted at its discretion?
      1. +4
        18 August 2013 12: 03
        alone
        In my opinion, you are mistaken ... except for the widespread gossip on this topic and their peace-loving statements, there is no confirmation of your version ... I already wrote about this to Yarbai ... and if they are "One Satan", then why The West, being almost delighted with the Lady, is spitting in unison towards Putin?
        1. Yarbay
          +4
          18 August 2013 14: 22
          Quote: smile
          why is the West, being almost delighted with Dam, amicably spitting toward Putin?

          It’s just that the West emphasizes that they need another Putin!
          If Medvedev would be an enemy and at least somehow threaten Putin’s power, then he would already share the bunk with Khodorkovsky and others!
          1. 0
            18 August 2013 15: 55
            Yarbay
            Naturally. if DAM were such a terrible enemy like Hodor, he would not be in the government. But the fact that he and Putin have unbelievable views is obvious. It is also noticeable, in my opinion, that in the upper echelons of power there really are two groups with very different views on the country's development path.
            1. +3
              18 August 2013 16: 07
              Quote: smile
              It is also noticeable, in my opinion, that in the upper echelons of power there really are two groups with very different views on the country's development path.

              Healthy competition, no more.
              1. +2
                18 August 2013 17: 41
                Denis
                Possibly healthy, such competition and such groups were, are and will be in the governments of any country, up to the Mumbo-Yumbo cannibal tribe, whose president she barricades the entrance to the hut with a thorny bush so that the shaman or brother-prime minister does not eat him Minister ... :)))
        2. Anti
          +3
          18 August 2013 15: 39
          Quote: smile
          The West, being almost delighted with Dam, spits amicably towards Putin?


          This is something like, a bad good cop, but they do one thing.
          1. Yarbay
            +4
            18 August 2013 15: 43
            Quote: Anti
            This is something like a bad good cop, but I’m doing one thing.

            Totally agree!
          2. -1
            18 August 2013 15: 57
            Anti
            I do not think so. I suppose things are much more complicated. And the use of such a cliche is artificial primitivization, which interferes with the assessment of the situation.
            1. Anti
              +3
              18 August 2013 16: 18
              No, I just simplified, not primitized, I don’t think that there are different trends in the Kremlin, it can exist inside the confession, the Kremlin, it gets rid of such ballast pretty quickly. One team.
              1. +1
                18 August 2013 17: 36
                Anti
                I do not agree, this is contrary to common sense, even in any district administration there are various groups, someone is friendly with the prosecutor's office. someone with the chairman of the court, someone is supported by the cops ..... it has always been like that, back in the days of the Soviet regime .... why now it should be different? ... Despite the fact that removing the unwanted is no less easy and from the Kremlin, but in the massive state apparatus they are not? This can’t be in principle ... especially since, unlike the ebon, waving a saber and changing high-level officials like socks is not in Pu’s habits. There are always contradictions in any large team ... this is an axiom
                That is why I believe that you are wrong.
      2. 0
        18 August 2013 19: 43
        Quote: lonely
        Medvedev, even as president, did what Putin told him.

        And here, within the framework of my theme, I very clearly monitored that Medvedev, since the presidency and until now, has purposefully opposed Putin. Another thing is that he (Medvedev) ... a very stupid person)).
        Although ... and McFaul)) and Obama)) and Merkel and Sarkozy))
        Perhaps Putin is simply smarter than them. Much)).
    3. Alrid
      +4
      18 August 2013 19: 27
      I don’t understand, Medvedev, what did you do wrong? What Putin, that Medvedev is one politician, where do you get the differences?
  10. Yarbay
    +13
    18 August 2013 09: 16
    Very interesting review!
    Thanks to the authors!
    I was interested in the arguments of the Romanian General Pachep!
    Everyone knows that Zavahiri was arrested in Russia!

    On December 1, 1996, Ahmad Salama Mabruk and Mahmoud Nisham al-Hennawi, along with al-Zawahiri, went to Chechnya with fake passports. Al-Zawahiri introduced himself as a doctor under the name "Abdullah Imam Mohammed Amin."
    After entering Russian territory, they were arrested and spent five months in a prison in the city of Makhachkala awaiting trial.
    In April 1997 they were sentenced to six months in prison, and a month later they were released!
    For six months in the Dagestan prison I thought a lot. And when one of the brothers asked me why I remember this period so often, I replied that I had learned many lessons from it.
    - later recalled az-Zawahiri!
    1. Anti
      +8
      18 August 2013 10: 27
      Pachepa, this is the Romanian Rezun-Suvorov.
      “Truman was her tangible symbol. In our eyes, it was he who helped save civilization from the Nazi barbarians, it was he who helped restore our freedom after the war. ”
      pachepa.
      1. Yarbay
        +3
        18 August 2013 11: 27
        Quote: Anti
        Pachepa, this is the Romanian Rezun-Suvorov.
        “Truman was her tangible symbol. In our eyes, it was he who helped save civilization from the Nazi barbarians, it was he who helped restore our freedom after the war. ”
        pachepa.

        At first it seemed not a fool!
        If the words you cited then he is a complete sucker!
        Count Zavahiri, I think he could be persuaded to cooperate!
        Moreover, while all of you claim in Russia, the enemies of the country ruled!
        Received too little time!
        1. Anti
          +2
          18 August 2013 12: 00
          Quote: Yarbay
          Zavahiri, I think he could be persuaded to cooperate!


          This is a version of A. Zakayev. Was there a boy?
          1. Yarbay
            +2
            18 August 2013 13: 23
            Quote: Anti

            This is a version of A. Zakayev. Was there a boy?

            No, this is the normal version !!
            The charges were serious, the sentence too lenient!
            1. Anti
              +3
              18 August 2013 14: 54
              Will the recruited write a book in which the biggest enemy is Russia! Excuse? It is unlikely that the question is complicated, there are no reliable sources (protocol of detention, interrogation, photo, court verdict). Where did the wood come from, if not secret, the Internet does not count? winked

              Sheikh, dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri “Knights under the banner of the Prophet”
              1. Yarbay
                +3
                18 August 2013 15: 42
                Quote: Anti
                Will the recruited write a book in which the biggest enemy is Russia! Excuse?

                On the contrary, he will write like that))))))))))))))))))))))))
                Or do you think suckers are sitting in the security services?))))
                Quote: Anti
                Where the woods come from, if not a secret

                I think you guess)))
                1. Anti
                  +2
                  18 August 2013 15: 52
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  On the contrary, he will write like that))))))))))))))))))))))))
                  Or do you think suckers are sitting in the security services?))))

                  A really hostile little book, by the way, an oath on the Koran can remove a person’s suspicions?
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  I think you guess)))

                  Well, this is clear to anyone on the profile picture, Turkish Mafia !! lol
                  1. Yarbay
                    +4
                    18 August 2013 16: 19
                    Quote: Anti
                    Well, this is clear to anyone on the profile picture, Turkish Mafia!

                    I have never had and do not have a relationship with the criminal world, or rather, I have a negative attitude towards them !!
                    And the profile picture ??
                    1. Anti
                      +2
                      18 August 2013 16: 21
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      And the profile picture ??


                      Is it Michael Corleone? winked
                      1. Yarbay
                        +2
                        18 August 2013 16: 23
                        Quote: Anti
                        Is it Michael Corleone?

                        Of course not)))))
                        Look carefully and guess three times why?)))))))
                      2. Anti
                        +1
                        18 August 2013 16: 49
                        Washed winked The ring is not on that little finger.
                      3. Yarbay
                        +2
                        18 August 2013 17: 50
                        Quote: Anti
                        They washed the Ring on the wrong little finger.

                        mustache and beard))))))))))))
                      4. +1
                        18 August 2013 18: 42
                        Al Pacino is a real actor !!!
                      5. Alex 241
                        +3
                        18 August 2013 18: 50
                        Here is a photo.
                      6. +1
                        18 August 2013 18: 56
                        "this" in the sense?
                  2. Yarbay
                    +1
                    18 August 2013 16: 21
                    Quote: Anti
                    A really hostile little book, by the way, an oath on the Koran can remove a person’s suspicions?

                    It depends on whom and under what circumstances swear and who swears!
                    Zawahiri, I would not believe in any circumstances!
                    1. Anti
                      0
                      18 August 2013 16: 30
                      Well, it’s clear with you, but would his associates believe if they suspected him of double-dealing? Such to compromise, probably shooting a video will not be enough request
                      1. Yarbay
                        0
                        18 August 2013 17: 55
                        Quote: Anti
                        Well, it’s clear with you, but would his associates believe if they suspected him of double-dealing? Such to compromise, probably shooting a video will not be enough

                        I agree, therefore I’m sure that at least they tried!
                        And knowing that unique recruiters exist, I have no doubt that they recruited !!
                        6 months is a great time)))
  11. Valery Neonov
    +6
    18 August 2013 09: 18
    Russians everywhere-so, if not Russians, then Jews will take their place .... they have long been in the queue ...:
    Odessa 2000. Queue Talk:
    “Look at that citizen over there.” I think he is a Jew!
    - Can not be! All the Jews left long ago!
    - But it seems to me, a Jew. Let's ask.
    - Comrade, I’m sorry, you are by no means a Jew ?!
    - I AM?? Jew?? Pots I, not a Jew !!

    Angry holidaymaker B.H. Obama-

    A miracle walks around the apartment
    There is no his beloved in the world.
    Like saucer lakes - eyes,
    Little gnome from a fairy tale.

    He says: - Give me sweets!
    Mom answers: - No!
    Gnome affectionate gone
    The gnome became harmful crybaby!

    Who is so roaring?
    Maybe it's a ship?
    Maybe it's a water carrier
    Then he poured a bucket of tears.

    Who is stamping here
    With tears and snot?
    Crybaby - harm from where?
    And where did the miracle go?

    Mom will give him a toy
    sticks into the sweet crown
    Mom will sit nearby
    Turn it into a miracle again!
  12. +3
    18 August 2013 09: 31
    Kadyrov is already practicing gliding in the boxing ring, Klitschko will run all the deputies
  13. +21
    18 August 2013 09: 49
    Obama seems to have experienced real congestion. In the end, whatever you call a yacht, it will sail.


    This is how you clash with the Russians and instead of rebooting, you will experience overload. And McCain warned ... He is a downed pilot ... he knows. Even the favorite golf game did not work out.Obama is so tired that he forgot how to play golf.
    At the sight of his faces there are associations like the White House - the Black Ear or the chocolate hare and the affectionate bastard honestly

    1. Alrid
      0
      18 August 2013 19: 39
      Clowning, not democracy. 20 years ago there were separate seats in the bus for blacks, now you see the president they have a black. The next clown will probably put the Indian.
  14. +4
    18 August 2013 09: 52
    Quote: In his last book, co-written with the historian Ronald Ryhlyak, who fled in the late 1970's. in the United States, Romanian intelligence general Ion Mihai Pachepa theorizes that radical Islam and anti-American propaganda of the USSR in the 70's were closely related.
    Another bullshit in the general chorus of anti-Sovietism and anti-Russian hysteria. The United States generously pays for such libel, because the inexperienced western man in the street(people) bites on these "political delights". Any phrase written by this scribble does not stand up to criticism, does not have any common sense. And there is no theory here. There is a set of cliches and cliches used by the failed defector agent working out American handouts.
  15. +4
    18 August 2013 09: 54
    <<< “I call on the federal states to simplify the procedure for granting political asylum for homosexual applicants from Russia,” Löning said in an August 11 interview with Welt am Sonntag. Voices from Canada were also heard. The Canadian Refugee Council is likely to look favorably on applications for asylum by gay people from Russia, Canada's Minister of Immigration said. >>>
    This is great! At least some benefit from "partnership"! Take all this LGBTeshnoe de ... mo, finally, the air in Russia will become fresher! It would also be good, Messrs. Gameokrats, for you to take with you, thanks to your liberal-market philosophy, CRIMINALS whom you call PRISONERS of conscience! Well, "to the heap" it would be great if the "rebels", "fighters for independence", "mujahideen" are different Udugovs - Umarovs - victims of the totalitarian regime, too, would quickly use your gamemocratic freedoms! We are waiting, sir!
  16. +8
    18 August 2013 10: 03
    Photo with a hunchback managed!
  17. 0
    18 August 2013 10: 05
    Putin with a snake - beautiful
  18. +3
    18 August 2013 10: 10
    It is somewhat strange that military personnel from Armenia, which is included not only in the CIS, but also in the CSTO, take part in the exercises. Is this really a demarche about the recent trip of Vladimir Putin to Baku? Ah, they say so! - if you went to Baku, then our legs will not be on the “Combat Commonwealth-2013”

    Everything is much simpler - the Armenians do not have their own anti-aircraft gunners.
    1. +2
      18 August 2013 10: 27
      Jealous as small children.
  19. +4
    18 August 2013 10: 21
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Very happy for Russia! We rise slowly (although the problems are even higher than the roof ..) and yet With such people as we, we will turn mountains !! Now many mongrel tails are pressed so yapping from the bushes (for order) .. The article, as always, is a plus and many comments too !!

    gee gee and who minus ?? It’s just interesting .. (in the morning this usually happens ..) What kind of mole ??
  20. +5
    18 August 2013 10: 24
    Really the wishes of the Russians were heard and all the Sodomites would be taken away by Canada and Germany as quickly as possible. It's a pity only for normal people, but I think we will accept them and restore the German republic.
    Gorbachev could not understand that he had better come to the frontal place for public execution. And the main enemy of the West, Putin, in the photo is the terrible dream of the liberals of the Westerners of the Tolerasts who must constantly appear in their sleep in order to remember their end is close. smile
  21. +9
    18 August 2013 10: 40
    Obama is tired, urgently on vacation, it’s understandable how long his head is on concrete, but all is in vain, and his head is not rubber tea.
    1. smiths xnumx
      +17
      18 August 2013 11: 07
      No it's better.

      Yours! hi
  22. +3
    18 August 2013 10: 41
    Quote: antiaircrafter
    It is somewhat strange that military personnel from Armenia, which is included not only in the CIS, but also in the CSTO, take part in the exercises. Is this really a demarche about the recent trip of Vladimir Putin to Baku? Ah, they say so! - if you went to Baku, then our legs will not be on the “Combat Commonwealth-2013”

    Everything is much simpler - the Armenians do not have their own anti-aircraft gunners.

    I think everything is much simpler .. This conflict can last for tens of years .. Armenia and Azerbaijan do not negotiate ... But this problem needs to be solved .. Caucasus needs stability enough to fight In the world it’s not calm .. And insults and claims need to be forgotten for a while ..
    1. +4
      18 August 2013 10: 58
      Quote: MIKHAN
      And grievances and claims need to be forgotten for a while ..

      ... after which they break through a vile abscess ....
      All grievances and claims must be resolved radically and irrevocably!
    2. +6
      18 August 2013 11: 23
      Quote: MIKHAN
      And grievances and claims need to be forgotten for a while ..

      Yes, they generally need to be forgotten, And Armenia and Azerbaijan need to give Russia their "axes of war" so that we can reliably "bury" them ...
      Judge by what category, and Russia is the only mediator in the region capable of resolving the problem.
  23. aepocmam
    +6
    18 August 2013 10: 44
    I wonder if it is possible for members of the royal family of Great Britain to enter into same-sex marriage.
  24. Genady1976
    +3
    18 August 2013 11: 12
    I really liked this picture good
    1. 0
      21 August 2013 18: 51
      Here is:
      1. We have no stars on helmets.
      2. Order of Lenin hangs incorrectly
      3. There is no inscription on the order - USSR
      4. The Order of the Red Star is in the wrong place
      5. Wound patch in the wrong place
      6. Putin does not smoke
      7. The dagger, the Nazis, not ours
      8. The helmet is not ours
  25. +4
    18 August 2013 11: 24
    Queues of cars stand idle for three to six hours, British newspapers say. Drivers complain that customs officials seem to be looking for smuggling.
    Spanish customs officers are wimps! At the border with Ukraine, Russian customs officers, if they wish, can spend only one car 1,5 hours good
    1. grafrozow
      +1
      18 August 2013 13: 11
      Quote: Shesternyack
      ! At the border with Ukraine, Russian customs officers, if they wish, can spend only 1,5 hours on one car
      I do not agree, 5 minutes maximum + 1000rub. Belgorod-Sumy highway, customs post in Grayvoron.
      1. +3
        18 August 2013 13: 47
        it’s possible for less. in three minutes we missed the bus-bus Krasnodar from each passenger for 1000 rubles))
  26. +3
    18 August 2013 11: 43
    The Brita Conflict - The Spaniards are happy, I'm waiting for the collapse of NATO
  27. +4
    18 August 2013 11: 55
    sold at low prices, as a result of which the damage amounted to about 500 thousand rubles. 500 thousand - this is of course an obvious puncture for the Oboronservis case. You can’t buy either a normal brulik or Aivazovsky’s painting.

    But you can buy a rope with soap, and not one. In the USSR there was an article for the theft of state property on a large and especially large scale ... provided for in the 3 part - the death penalty ..
    Bring her back.
  28. +1
    18 August 2013 12: 25
    Sabakashvili has such a courageous face, straight Julius Caesar
    1. +1
      18 August 2013 21: 58
      I somehow had to work in one institution so there, too, almost all have courageous faces, to the question to the heads of the doctor "why is this?", He replied that this is a normal phenomenon for psychos. By the way, this institution is located on the street "Philosophers" ...
  29. Peaceful military
    +6
    18 August 2013 12: 26
    Yes friends, the week was fun smile
    As always, the "partners" did not disappoint, and the "fraternal" republics, too.
    By the way, here is fresh news from "fraternal" Estonia:
    The newspaper Nelli Teataja, which closely monitors the actions of all known people in Estonia, received information that the Minister of Economic Affairs and Communications, Johan Parts, who was returning from St. Petersburg to Tallinn by train, behaved inappropriately, which greatly embarrassed passengers.
    On the way back to Tallinn from Petersburg, Parts, traveling with two fellow travelers, was in high spirits, and this was noticed by many passengers traveling with him on the train. According to eyewitnesses, the slightly tipsy minister noticed two foreign girls in a restaurant car, with whom he and his companions went to get acquainted.
    The conversation was conducted in English, and so loudly that it was heard by everyone. Parts introduced himself as someone who was some sort of deputy prime minister and told the girls to be calm - they would be in civilization soon. He meant Estonia by civilization. What made the situation especially comical is that in this very “civilization” the train was just passing through the jammed building of Johvi station with the windows clogged.
    Many Estonians who were in the car were terribly uncomfortable and ashamed of the behavior of the minister. And Russian passengers speaking English sat with their mouths open. But the minister’s adventures did not end there.
    Parts asked the girls if they had any rubles left - in Estonia supposedly nothing to do with them anyway, we have the euro. The gentleman Parts added to the amount received the remaining rubles and brought everyone drinks from the bar. After talking with the girls for a while, Parts left them with his companions and left. The show is over.
    Interestingly, despite a rather long experience, Parts was able to so relax in a public place. After all, it is known that even the smallest wrong movement gives rise to a variety of rumors. For example, several days later, stories came to the newspaper that Parts on this very train got drunk to hell. But this does not correspond to reality, as eyewitnesses say, he was in fact only slightly tipsy.
    True, the story has another side: due to the fact that Parts was present on the train, the air conditioner was turned on, which usually does not work. In addition, the cars were clean and tidy: the minister was going after all.
    http://bublik.delfi.ee/news/glamour/gazeta-parts-inostrankam-v-poezde-peterburg-
    tallinn-ne-volnujtes-skoro-pribudem-v-civilizaciyu.d? id = 66602413
    laughing
  30. +16
    18 August 2013 12: 51
    Oleg +! good
    As I understood, Ukraine is not participating in the exercises of air defense, Commonwealth countries. negative It's a shame for the state.
    Nevertheless, all have a great day!
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    1. +13
      18 August 2013 12: 59
      Quote: Odessitka
      Ukraine does not participate in the exercises of air defense, Commonwealth countries.


      Ukrainian anti-aircraft gunners were simply not invited away from sin, otherwise, again, inadvertently a passenger plane would be shot down.
      1. +2
        18 August 2013 17: 13
        !!!!!!!!!! +++++++++ Well, the pilots to the heap ... And God forbid they fall in the wrong place again ... Good afternoon, Stanislav! How is it with an asymmetric response to the Amer’s missile defense? Is everything okay? I am not to anyone !!
    2. bask
      +7
      18 August 2013 13: 14
      Quote: Odessitka
      Nevertheless, all have a great day!

      Thank you for Esther’s wish.
      Question. Where sharing the penguin from the avatar. bully
      1. +5
        18 August 2013 16: 21
        Question. Where sharing the penguin from the avatar.

        As in the joke, the Penguins took the Bear hostage, slammed shut in the refrigerator, and demand fish and cold beer. drinks
    3. phantom359
      +1
      18 August 2013 16: 55
      Hmm, sorry Odessa. I also hoped that the regions would not only tongue wag. By and large, there is no one to choose from.
    4. 0
      19 August 2013 12: 30
      Ukrainian air defense is a weapon of mass destruction. And homing missiles are aimed wherever they want.
  31. +6
    18 August 2013 12: 59
    That's what I always like so much is humor and we can also laugh at others and laugh at ourselves .. laughing Humor will save the world !! ..
    1. +6
      18 August 2013 13: 15
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Humor will save the world


      Alas, humor is actually sad, especially since these jambs have become a trend rather than an accident.

      During the large-scale exercises "Marine Knot-2008", which the Armed Forces of the country conducted at a training ground 40 kilometers from Feodosia, an emergency occurred.

      Three rockets exploded near the starting positions, and not having time to hit air targets. Fortunately, there were no casualties, as the personnel of the combat crews were in shelters and control cabins.

      Two missiles of the most advanced S-300 air defense system self-destructed in the air.

      Ejected by a powder charge, they barely managed to get out of the launcher without ever starting the main engines.

      Most likely, according to experts, the ammunition is outdated in missiles - they are more than 25 years old. Although all the “winged shells” that are used in exercises and are on combat duty are regularly checked by automation.

      The third missile launched in the wrong direction turned out to be the Buk-M1 missile system of the land anti-aircraft missile system. She, according to the military, was eliminated by them themselves.

      As regards the sad experience of the S-200 air defense system, when in 2001, from this same firing range (according to one version), a missile hit a Tu-154 passenger plane, at these exercises the anti-aircraft missile system carried out only target tracking.

      link
  32. +6
    18 August 2013 13: 00
    Quote: Constantine
    At least it's time to start thinking and resolving the issue with your own there. The EU and the USA have been doing this for 20 years.


    And note YET without much noticeable success. Washington, through its lackeys in the Ukrainian government, counts on the inevitable change of generations, the emergence of a "layer" in Ukrainian society that does not remember kinship, does not know and fear Russia. We, in turn, will be criminal in front of history not to use the chance to reverse the current situation. our ideology, our Russian truth to the Ukrainian society and, first of all, to the youth. This is the easiest way to the soul of Ukraine ...
  33. predator.3
    +13
    18 August 2013 13: 01
    Quote: Alexej
    I always thought, what for Americans to promote the Ukrainian boxer? Well, why do they need a Slavic hero-boxer? Maybe I have paranoia? Nothing just happens. Politics...


    In fact, the Klitschko brothers do not differ in special respect (especially love!) For Russia, I look forward to when some of the Russians in the ring hang them up with stars!
    1. +3
      18 August 2013 13: 22
      many are waiting. but to do this is problematic. here you can hope for the lucky punch. well, or such an option. and about your attitude to the Russians, look at Vitali’s reaction during the extreme fight between Lebedev and Jones. and read what he later said about this
  34. +18
    18 August 2013 13: 08
    Rzhevsky morons:
    1. +8
      18 August 2013 14: 14
      [quote = Garrin] Rzhevsky morons:
      Hi tezzka! Maybe these guys should be sent to serve their sentences in search work, to the forests along Rzhev, oh there is still a lot of work, and their parents who brought up wine, I think Victory Day was celebrated in these families as a reason to drink
      1. +5
        18 August 2013 14: 32
        Quote: igor67
        Hi tezzka! Maybe these guys should be sent to serve their sentences in search work, to the forests along Rzhev, oh there is still a lot of work, and their parents who brought up wine, I think Victory Day was celebrated in these families as a reason to drink

        Probably yes. When they get the bones with their own hands, maybe it will reach, at whose expense they now live.
      2. +1
        18 August 2013 17: 48
        Quote: igor67
        Maybe send these guys to serve their sentences in search jobs in the forests along Rzhev, oh, there’s a lot more work


        I disagree with you. Such work "from under the stick" will not teach anyone anything. An acquaintance of mine every year goes on an expedition with a search detachment to the places of battles. He does this during his vacation, in his car, at his own expense. I think this is the only way to do this Holy Work, and not as a punishment. As a punishment, let the time that you received - they clean the snow, sweep the leaves, paint; but you never know more work ... And about their parents, you are right. Yours faithfully! hi
      3. 0
        18 August 2013 18: 26
        It is unlikely to help such. Only lobotamia.
    2. +3
      18 August 2013 15: 36
      Rzhevsky morons:

      Thank you very much! Looked to tears! A worthy answer To those who, under the music of Elvis, turn into a monkey!
      Many thanks to the participants in the events displayed in your film!
    3. +3
      18 August 2013 16: 43
      Enjoy the photo where the Colonel shows on the globe a point in North America!
  35. Raven
    +5
    18 August 2013 13: 25
    Hehe, if for "them" (well, you understand), we (RB and RF) have hell, then in Saudi Arabia what is there for them?
    They shout at us (RB) that we shot someone (for the first time in ten years, chtol? I don’t remember exactly). And the Saudis have executed more than 5 people in the 50 years that have passed, by chopping off their heads, in public. Sanctions were thrown at us for breaking the raging opposition with batons.

    And women have beaten women with a whip for driving a car. What sanctions do not show them?

    Justice and logic in their politicians, IN good Strange belay
    1. +1
      18 August 2013 13: 40
      You just do not have oil, and Old Man is a dictator, not blue
      1. +2
        18 August 2013 14: 13
        Quote: ivshubarin
        You just do not have oil, and Old Man is a dictator, not blue

        The * dictator * should be highlighted with "quotes" ...
        1. 0
          18 August 2013 15: 02
          I'm just learning to write
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    2. +3
      18 August 2013 13: 52
      Raven
      I will supplement it. Every year, on the US-Mexican border, Americans kill more than half a thousand illegal Mexicans (more than almost 40 years of the Iron Curtain on the German border), up to 700 corpses in some years. And Americans are executed more than 10 people a year (where the Saudis are there) ... including women. American batons also do not lie around in a closet .... I suppose that in a year all kinds of demonstrators are dispersed there, not quantitatively very different from the whole population of the Republic of Belarus ... :)))
      Ask what am I doing? I explain, when comparing, it is clearly visible that you have a continuous concentration camp there, in contrast to the holy democratic America ... :)))
      1. Raven
        0
        19 August 2013 09: 12
        it’s all but one punt, they have batons in warehouses, they like rubber bullets more, rubber grenades. It's democratic wassat
      2. 0
        19 August 2013 12: 55
        American patrols have also recently come under fire.
        Mexican drug mafia is not ,, humanist thieves ,,.
  36. HAM
    +7
    18 August 2013 13: 40
    A normal Russian has a headache in the morning, and a normal European ass.
  37. +5
    18 August 2013 13: 52
    Quote: Garrin
    Rzhevsky morons:

    Have not seen . Thank you very much that many of these Heroes who stood to their death remained in the status of "missing .." Eternal memory to you !! Thank you for everything !! Now we also have a cruel war for our souls .. (and the losses are also great) .. While we are fighting back .. I hope we will not shame Russia ..
    1. +4
      18 August 2013 14: 25
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Now we also have a fierce war for our souls .. (and the losses are also great).

      Greetings, Vitaliy! hi
      You said everything correctly. This should be transmitted from grandfathers and fathers, at school ... And now, at school, if my memory serves me, about 4 academic hours are allocated to studying the history of the Second World War plus the exam. So such ki grow up that mock the MEMORY of our WINNING FATFUL.
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  39. +1
    18 August 2013 14: 12
    commentary on Abama's photo - If pursed lips are tense, compressed, powerless anger is expressed in this way - from the theory of nonverbal communication)))
  40. MG42
    +6
    18 August 2013 14: 19
    The Chinese are in a hurry and keep their nose to the wind of popular brands >>

    The Beijing company filed an application for registration of the Snowden trademark in honor of a former CIA official who spoke about government surveillance of citizens. The South China Morning Post writes about this on August 16.

    According to Hong Yuan Lan Xiang (HYLX), a company that develops technologies for electric vehicles, the company made a breakthrough in its field, comparable in scale to the revelations of Snowden.

    The company intends to use the Snowden name in Chinese and English as the name for its “secret technology for environmental cars,” which Hong Yuan Lan Xiang hopes to sell to Chinese and foreign electric car manufacturers.

    It may take from a year to 15 months to consider an application. At the same time, experts polled by the South China Morning Post fear that the Beijing authorities will not allow Hong Yuan Lan Xiang to register a trademark in honor of Edward Snowden, as they may see political implications in the company's actions.


    http://lenta.ru/news/2013/08/16/snowden/
    1. +3
      18 August 2013 15: 16
      Quote: MG42
      The Chinese are in a hurry and keep their nose to the wind of popular brands >>


      Well, you can't refuse Chinese quickness and enterprise, let them try to extract commercial benefit from the Snowden brand, while Russia will "extract" POLITICAL DIVIDENDS ...
      1. MG42
        +4
        18 August 2013 15: 26
        Quote: Corsair
        Russia will "extract" POLITICAL DIVIDENDS

        Russia also receives not only watered. dividends >>> Snowden saved a bunch of "man-hours" of intelligence to reveal American secrets, and the Americans were seriously damaged by reprogramming and political reputations, not so much in the world, as inside the USA, since the scale of surveillance of their own citizens was made public .. hi
  41. Valery Neonov
    +6
    18 August 2013 14: 32
    Quote: Ascetic
    This is how you clash with the Russians and instead of rebooting you will experience overload

    And to such an extent, you can reboot that you lose a landmark .... or orientation ... laughing
    1. MG42
      +6
      18 August 2013 14: 42
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      And to such an extent, you can reboot that you lose a landmark .... or orientation ..

      This is Photoshop in your picture, there Obama's wife in another photo in general
      Here is a better quality clickable photoshop >>
      1. +3
        18 August 2013 16: 51
        ... and the rabbit is NAKED !!! All his lies are sewn with WHITE threads on BLACK. He tries to convince that black is white, and vice versa, and when he realizes that he cannot convince, he is not able to hide his annoyance and resentment for himself, that he "gave MAX" ... or that he did not ...
    2. HAM
      0
      21 August 2013 14: 59
      Oh, there’s no Leonid Ilyich. Well, not so young people are kissing!
  42. +2
    18 August 2013 14: 43
    The policy of providing such "shelters" will end fatally for the West, we add on our own. The West has always been famous for its technology. He doesn’t just step on the rake twice - he designs and arranges this rake.
    Well, they like to place this rake. And for themselves and others. Only in recent years has it gotten worse and worse. And the result is always the same ... What can you do about DEMOCRACY stop
  43. Alex 241
    +15
    18 August 2013 15: 12
    And the result of the week is one. On August 18, with Aviation Day, everyone who wore, wears, or will wear epaulets of the color of the sky. Happy friends!
    1. Alex 241
      +6
      18 August 2013 15: 13
      .......................................
      1. +3
        18 August 2013 17: 07
        Kowtow to you, AVIATORS!
    2. +3
      18 August 2013 15: 51
      I admire!
    3. phantom359
      +1
      18 August 2013 16: 57
      Quote: Alex 241
      And the result of the week is one. On August 18, with Aviation Day, everyone who wore, wears, or will wear epaulets of the color of the sky. Happy friends!

      Thank you.
  44. +4
    18 August 2013 15: 35
    The United States is preparing another trick in the Caucasus.
    That is the same Azerbaijani, Turkish and Georgian walkers are in formation in the American regional committee, to know the American plan in Syria has failed, begin a new adventure in the southern underbelly of Russia and the north of naughty Iran.
    1. +2
      18 August 2013 15: 52
      At our borders, floods and outbreaks of infectious diseases!
  45. +2
    18 August 2013 15: 51
    Quote: Corsair
    Quote: Constantine
    At least it's time to start thinking and resolving the issue with your own there. The EU and the USA have been doing this for 20 years.
    And note YET without much noticeable success. Through its lackeys in the Ukrainian government, Washington is counting on an inevitable change of generations, the emergence of a "layer" in Ukrainian society that does not remember kinship, does not know and fear Russia. We, in turn, will be criminal before history not to use the chance to reverse the current situation.
    It is necessary to carry our ideology furiously, creatively, our Russian truth to the Ukrainian society and first of all the youth. This is the easiest way to the soul of Ukraine ...

    Good afternoon, dear "Le Corsaire" or, as you name it, please!
    Totally agree with you. If the political elite in Kiev is still trying to get tea with Russians from the samovar and at the same time ask for European sweets, then sooner or later all these Ukrainian political prostitutes (V.I. Lenin), they’ll finish badly.
    And for my native Ukraine I need all her friends from the TS fight, both through the young and through the common people.
    Most Ukrainian citizens
    I am personally convinced for living together with everyone in the framework of the former USSR, since the idea of ​​autonomy and a solitary leap forward to the West are completely discredited!
    1. +5
      18 August 2013 16: 17
      Quote: michajlo
      Most Ukrainian citizens, I am personally convinced, for living together with everyone within the framework of the former USSR, since the idea of ​​independence and a solitary jerk forward to the West are completely discredited!


      Hello, it’s very nice to meet a person on the site whose opinion is somehow similar to your own. Ukraine and my pain, it’s not a stranger to me.
      The more people in Ukraine, Russia and the world who are rooting for the reconstruction of the renewed Union, the stronger the voice. A voice that no one dares to ignore ...
    2. grafrozow
      -1
      18 August 2013 23: 50
      Quote: michajlo
      all these Ukrainian political prostitutes (V.I. Lenin) will end badly.
      If I don’t know, then dagger ... This is where V.I. Lenin put it that way? You can link, with LD Trotsky not confused? Be careful.
  46. +6
    18 August 2013 16: 17
    Accusing the Russians of sliding down to the Cold War, Obama is engaged in precisely what is spinning a new round of this very war. By displaying “peregruzka” instead of “rebooting” on the symbolic button, Obama seems to have really experienced a real overload.

    By "blaming the Russians" Obama is clearly betraying his deep conviction that Russia should do as Barack Obama of the Oral Cabinet tells it.
    The Yankees do not recognize the rights of their own opinion to other countries - still! - The USA is the navel of the earth, the lamp of freedom, democracy, and the mentors and lords of the planet !!!
    1. HAM
      0
      18 August 2013 19: 53
      As for the office, you are at a point: Monica and Bill will confirm ..
  47. -3
    18 August 2013 16: 19
    Quote: Anti
    Quote: smile
    The West, being almost delighted with Dam, spits amicably towards Putin?

    This is something like a bad good cop, and one thing is done.

    Good afternoon, dear "Anti", or how to dignify you! You're right, good
    that they both do one thing,
    moreover, let me add that they are not doing what Comrade Putin wants, but both OBEYINGly follow the instructions of the "masters without a name" from behind the theater curtain.
    It's just that experienced directors have chosen and we are naively told that "a weak and submissive LADY" better emphasizes the strength and advantages of "iron and unbending GDP"!

    Although in my opinion both of them are SIMPLY corrupt and obedient politicians, because if you compare the menacing speeches and indications of GDP and the real situation inside Russia, and most importantly impunity for thieves and pests, then I really weakly believe in the real power of GDP!

    Or is he, as an experienced intelligence officer, still in the position of an IMMEDIATE ?, and Comrade Putin will show the real power later,
    after the PLANNED escalation of tension, introducing a state of emergency in Russia with a court and execution on the spot,
    - as pests of Russia,
    - and ordinary patriots of the country,
    who would call into question his PATRIOTISM and ORDER!?
    1. +5
      18 August 2013 17: 21
      michajlo
      Hello.
      And why do you think that someone rules Dam and Putin ... right from behind the curtain ... and theatrical one? And why doesn’t it seem to you that experienced directors suggest such cliches to you? And you, naive believe ... and really naive, forgive me, because only a super-naive person can present a situation so primitively in a country ...
      Your statements too smell like a swamp douche .... moreover, both statements and assumptions ... :)))
      Strange arguments about the impunity of thieves, while in this area there are quite real, although not as much as we would like, shifts in the positive direction ... and if we compare it with the time, as soon as Pu first became president, generally heaven and earth ....

      I was especially touched by the suffering about the patriots, whom Pu would probably be obligated to shoot .... yeah, after the insidious, systematically escalating tension ... agnicky broke a tear .... yeah .... out there, your like-minded people like Novodvorskaya , bulk, Kasparov and other chiriks together with the indignant western democratic community say the same thing .....

      I would be grateful if you could prove Putin’s corruption and obedience ... otherwise it would look like your patriotism, decency, honesty and just common sense left you and went into an illegal position .... what a mournful event and inspired write this your comment ..... :)))))
      1. Oskar
        +2
        18 August 2013 18: 40
        smile
        Why do you consider people who touch the "honest" name of Pu to like-minded people? Novodvodsky, bulk, Kasparov and other tweeters, together with the indignant western democratic community(the State Department forgot?). You tend to haste and one-sided conclusions. People should not prove anything to you, not Pu, but the government is obliged. Every day. Hourly. I want to remind you that Pu is not anointed with God's mercy, but a hired official, and this he must prove to me that it is not for nothing that he eats a bread with caviar. To prove OUR growth of well-being, OUR sense of security from external and internal enemies, increasing the level of education of US and OUR children and expanding prospects. You see, He owes to all of Us, and not we to Him. And we already in our places will break into a cake for the COUNTRY and PEOPLE, and not for him, but maybe for him (let him earn trust). In general, these conversations are superfluous, given the past 13 years and their results. Late trust deserve ...
        Are you by any chance with Constantin from more than one department? And then the style is one to one)))). If not with Pu, then it started: bulk, Kasparov, Novodvorskaya, the notorious swamp darling, the State Department, Massad, the CIA, FBI, the evil alien mind, boogeyman, babai, etc. etc.))) Did you study one manual?
        1. Arabist
          -4
          18 August 2013 18: 49
          Similarly, if you are for Putin, then you yourself are a thief, a criminal, a zombie propaganda and then a long list of obscene expressions. All even.
          1. Oskar
            0
            18 August 2013 19: 07
            Everything is correct. The split of opinions and insoluble contradictions are evident. It is very difficult to get out of this situation. I just notice the terrible intolerance on the part of Putin's adherents towards people who defend their opinion, which is different from theirs. It is not the people who are "not ripe" for democracy, but the government, which is afraid of the people, democracy, pluralism and freedom of speech. I am not an adherent of capitalism and democracy (I consider democracy and capitalism to be an evolved form of the slaveholding and feudal system (the instruments of subordination and influence on slaves have been transformed into other forms, more reliable and convenient for those with power and money). But let me, if this is our constitutional system, so be so kind - match. ”Otherwise, the game turns out.
            1. Arabist
              -1
              18 August 2013 19: 19
              Maybe you have any suggestions (other than the very obvious ones) for breaking the deadlock? Indeed, simply dissatisfied have already become irreconcilable.
            2. +2
              18 August 2013 20: 03
              Oskar
              May I explain my intolerance?
              It's simple.
              1. Exactly under the same slogans, the USSR was destroyed with the same conductors. Look who straddled the protest movement (which is in any state). compare their rhetoric with that. what sounded in 91m, just replace the officials with party apparatchiks, the USSR with Russia ... you were similar. on which is the propaganda company being built does not bother?
              2. The fanatical intolerance of the opposition (and the more liberal they consider themselves, the more intolerant they are, and the more deceitful their rhetoric) is the response of hostility and the fear of repeating the already tested scenario of the destruction of the country.
              3.When any opponent of Pu, will notice the obvious - that the fanatical intolerance of the opposition arose much earlier than it appeared among his supporters and look at the situation objectively - from this moment it will be possible to agree with him ... for now in the eyes a feverish brilliance of his own infallibility- the conversation is just useless ...
              1. Oskar
                +3
                18 August 2013 20: 11
                I absolutely agree regarding the conductors. The West is the original enemy of Russia. Wildly sorry for the death of the USSR. Bulk and others like him on the bunk. This does not even need to be discussed. It's just that I open my eyes to the fact that criticizing Putin does not always be with Navalny, etc.
                1. Arabist
                  0
                  18 August 2013 20: 14
                  Not always, of course, it's just a stereotype. And you yourself know how difficult it is to fight stereotypes.
                2. -1
                  18 August 2013 21: 30
                  Oskar
                  I don’t need to open my eyes to anything, I can see quite well. And I am quite capable of criticizing Putin, especially since there is a reason. and I criticize, but only in the society of the truly sighted, who also recognize his merits. At the same time, I do not use the rhetoric of the other, not for the night, the bulk will be remembered about "sold out, stolen and you are a puppet" ... alas, this shot of yours is into milk ...
                  And the rest, I see, we have common ground ... that's good.
        2. -2
          18 August 2013 19: 33
          Oskar
          1. Not all. but only those who say exactly what the characters listed by me say. if I assert that Deutschland is an Albert, you propagandize Nazi ideology with foam at the mouth, but say that I am not for Hitler. it’s just that our thoughts converge, who will I be? By the Nazi? I hope the direct analogy is clear? ... The State Department did not forget, just didn’t mention, they don’t hide that they are enemies, but enemies can be, they have such a job ... :)))
          2. People should not prove anything to me, but they must defend their loud, groundless statements ... all the more justify them because their statements are identical to those of our regular enemies ... or you think. that any, even the most stupid lie against the Pu-holy is not subject to criticism? You are a very objective, consistent and honest person ... talent, you might say ....
          3. Achievements of Putin, including the growth of wealth. a reduction in the number of serious crimes. birth rate increase, for the first time exceeding that in the US .... etc. etc. they aren’t noticeable only to someone who doesn’t want to notice them intentionally, it’s with them that he proves to all of us ... if you do not actively want to open your eyes, ask him to come to your home and report back, because you think. what is he obligated ....
          4. I did not quite understand why you told me trivial things about that. what should the president ... at the same time, I never argued otherwise ... wrote for the quantity?
          You are right - the talk is superfluous - most of the people see not only its shortcomings, but also achievements. Accordingly, it supports it ... by the way, 13-4 is 9. You did not know? Or can you confirm that Dam obeyed Putin during his presidency? If possible, confirm. otherwise it will be the same unreasonable lie. as well as some of your other statements ...
          5. Constantin's position regarding Pu-share. I suppose you don’t need to study for this - you can just honestly and objectively assess the situation - and that’s enough ...

          And the last thing, I ignore the personal attacks on me, but I warn you, in case of relapse, get it in full ... :)))
          1. Oskar
            +3
            18 August 2013 20: 04
            Statements by enemies, friends ... People just say the same shortcomings and problems. To give an analogy, I’ll also give an example: if sewage erupted in the house, both Navalny and Putin and Obama will speak about this in approximately the same words (it’s a pity that I have to explain it), except that Putin is sharper (he has a sore toilet topic, as I understand it)
            1. +1
              18 August 2013 21: 37
              Oskar
              I continue your analogy, if someone of these of them will try to take the place of a cleaning lady. then he will not pay attention to the fact that the cleaning lady is trying - just the garbage has accumulated too much earlier and the house is being destroyed, which they themselves litter in the house and prevent the cleaning lady from cleaning, overturning the bucket. they’ll yell that they don’t clean enough, that they don’t clean at all, but litter ... at the same time they will secretly bring garbage and secretly throw them in the corners ... for the money of a neighbor .... and when you consider that the brooms held, then certainly there will be a complete analogy ... :)))) It is a pity that you have to explain it ... :)))
          2. Yarosvet
            +3
            18 August 2013 22: 07
            Quote: smile
            Hope the direct analogy is clear?


            Hello Vladimir, I’m talking about analogies.

            At the forum, most of those who shout "hurray" to Putin have not even read the Constitution of their own country (to say nothing of federal laws), but at the same time they try to judge the topics in which they "understand" only from the words of old Fedorovs and the like.
            In this regard, let's go down to the household level and try to draw an analogy:

            Suppose that you want to build a private house for yourself, connect it to the sewer, gas, water supply, stretch electricity, install plumbing, lay floors, tiles in the bathroom, wallpaper, etc. etc.
            You choose one of several contractors that guarantees you for a certain time for a certain fee to perform a certain amount of work.

            Tell Vladimir - how do you feel about the fact that the contractor completed only 20% of the agreed volume with the estimated cost? Will you begin to delve into the reasons for this situation and enter the position of a contractor - or will you change it and file a lawsuit with the court demanding that you return the money and pay the penalty?
            1. 0
              18 August 2013 23: 18
              Yarosvet
              And you are hello!
              Let's go down ... now I will continue your analogy, since such a booze went ... :)))
              And how do you feel about the fact that:
              your blood neighbor, who diligently put your house into disrepair, scrubbed tiles, cracked tiles and generally beat the glass, threatening to destroy your home, sends you agitators who convince you that your builder is inept and a thief, and you need to conclude an agreement with another contractor which, according to your neighbor, is much better ....
              Further, other contractors constantly curl around you, praising yourself and groaning yours in the hope of getting a contract, and you know for sure that they are still more stupid than the one you chose ... you don’t know who their neighbor sent them, and who is he in himself ... at the same time, someone from this crowd quietly destroys what was restored by your builder, someone just tyrit and interferes with your builder ... yes, you see that your contractor does not always meet deadlines (about 20 percent of what is done, I think this is not true), something is doing inadequate quality, and something in altogether remodels .... but he got the house up and running, repair the complete collapse, and you cannot demolish it and build it again, you just have nowhere to live ... and you live on a construction site. knee-deep in construction waste, which also makes repair difficult ..... so I would not terminate the contract, because I clearly know this is the shortest way to completely lose it, and you? :)))
              By the way, I’m familiar with the Constitution firsthand ... and it’s not a stranger to the legislation of the Russian Federation ...

              I hope you will not make conclusions about answering a question with a question? :)))))
              But in general, thanks, laughed and cursed ... I love this thing ... :)))
              1. Yarosvet
                +4
                19 August 2013 00: 00
                Quote: smile
                And how do you feel about the fact that:
                your blood neighbor, who diligently put your house into disrepair, scrubbed tiles, cracked tiles and generally beat the glass, threatening to destroy your home, sends you agitators who convince you that your builder is inept and a thief, and you need to conclude an agreement with another contractor which, according to your neighbor, is much better ....
                Something from another opera, but let it be: it is assumed that during the construction the responsibility for the protection of the house under construction is borne by the contractor - hence regarding the stitched tiles, peeled tiles, etc. questions are also to the contractor.
                Moreover, it is not difficult to verify the information sent by agitators, and if it turns out to be correct, then it is all the more worth considering.

                Further, other contractors constantly curl around you, praising yourself and groaning yours in the hope of getting a contract, and you know for sure that they are even more stupid than the one you chose ...
                We cannot know this — we have not seen them in action. All that we have is a theoretical justification for what we did not see in practice, and practical conclusions that only 20% of the indicated volume was built in due time, that the estimate is growing, that it is being built basically not what was ordered.

                you don’t know who their neighbor sent them, and who they are by themselves ...
                Looking at how the construction is going on, thoughts periodically arise that it is the contractor that I hired that is in collusion with my neighbor.

                at the same time, someone from this crowd quietly destroys what was restored by your builder, someone just tyrit and interferes with your builder ...
                The contractor is responsible for the protection of the facility under construction.

                about 20 percent of what is done, I think this is not true
                Honor your election promises?

                In general, you have changed the conditions of the problem and left the answer)))

                The bottom line is, Vladimir, that when hiring a person to put the tiles in the bath, you will not be interested in the reasons for increasing the estimate and delaying the work, you will not be interested in the reasons why you put the wrong tile, you will not be interested in why the tile is crooked. In this case, you do not hesitate to part with such an employee, demand compensation for damage, or even pile on him - anyone will do so.
                And it is completely incomprehensible why one should act differently with respect to the same employee, but not laying the tile, but being the supreme coordinator of the state.
    2. Anti
      -3
      18 August 2013 17: 43
      Quote: michajlo

      Well, it's you in vain. I have my own truth, you have your own, in general I do not understand people who allow themselves to speak negatively about the supreme political leaders of the Power. Indeed, in fact, the country, so to speak, is at war and respect for Russia in the world is directly proportional to respect for its president in Russia itself (the example of Yeltsin). Correct me if it is not.
      1. +3
        18 August 2013 19: 59
        Quote: Anti
        Quote: michajlo

        Well, it's you in vain. I have my own truth, you have your own, in general I do not understand people who allow themselves to speak negatively about the supreme political leaders of the Power. Indeed, in fact, the country, so to speak, is at war and respect for Russia in the world is directly proportional to respect for its president in Russia itself (the example of Yeltsin). Correct me if it is not.

        Great statesmen are the property of the people, they must be deserved, they appear only when the people are ready for their appearance.
        What leader is worthy of the people who sold their great power and the memory of those who created and defended it, for 100 varieties of fake sausages, colored rags, smelly tins on wheels and other rubbish? We have such a leader.
        1. Anti
          0
          18 August 2013 20: 25
          Quote: Corsair5912
          Great statesmen are the property of the people


          I am a supporter of the president, I am not going to convince anyone, but he appeared then when the state, together with the people, were already more than one foot in the abyss, he restrained. Does not our people, in spite of their mistakes, deserve to be restrained from falling and not worthy of having such a Leader at the head? Moreover, if we look back, we will notice that at apocalyptic moments for the country there appeared a leader or regiment who pulled her out of the abyss (Kutuzov, Stalin, Zhukov, etc.).
      2. +3
        19 August 2013 00: 33
        Good evening dear "NIK"!
        Sorry to write late, just here "friendly congratulations" from the server IN "error", ate a lot of time.
        Since we are talking about something very important, I want to clarify yours. point of view and arguments critical or distrustful attitude towards Comrade Putin.
        1.
        As the political leader of Russia, especially when looking from the outside, that is, not from outside Russia, I not only agree with you, but I can confirm that here in Eastern Europe and Slovakia, Putin’s authority is increasing every year, especially from 2012.
        In 2000-2008, I somehow did not notice, maybe I was less interested in these issues then.
        In a word, President Putin, in recent times, citizens (not the political elite) of Eastern Europe have an envy of Russians. It is pleasant, and it pleases me, from the heart.
        2.
        But since life, alas, taught me to ask out of place and at the wrong time simple questions: "Why?" and by their answers, and most importantly by the RESULTS, to judge the policy, since I have heard plenty of promises, Decrees and Resolutions.
        3.
        And here, I have a personality of GDP, it doesn’t look so beautiful anymore, the gloss has worn out ...
        4.
        Now answer me please, 22 years have passed since the collapse of the USSR (1991), it has already opened a lot and went out.
        Why NOBODY has yet been PUNISHED for the collapse of the USSR.
        Well EBN, of course, hell is serving the hell.
        But why is MSG - UNTouchable? Was not tried, interrogated,
        - who and how led
        - who ordered
        - who advised
        - who covered
        - and most importantly "Where is Zin's money?
        5.
        Did he (MSG / Gorbacheau) even the AUTHORITY of Russia give the highest order?
        - It is possible that he would not decide to write in his old memoirs, to reveal everyone and everything and give them KODLO ...
        6.
        Regarding the conditions of war. By analogy with the Great Patriotic War, in my opinion, we all, Russia, are still constantly retreating, but only more slowly from 2000 under the pressure of the adversary.
        And we still need to STOP and START to attack !!!
        7.
        And what we see: What is the worry, all nishtyak, still need to take up the remnants of DO, live plenty,
        "muzzle in a basin with caviar".
        8.
        And why do you need to imprison, persecute, confiscate the property of these "as their dummy managers"?
        They are their own, they recommended to us they regularly share with us, in the "common fund" contributions regularly flesh! Are you patriots barefoot, ofanarali our authorities DEMAND something!
        Yes to you SMERD filthy, the AUTHORITY is content to us only to ASK !!!
        9.
        And time is running out, how many people, talents, with knowledge, experience and secrets have scattered around the world ...
        10.
        Tomorrow we won’t throw the hats with one hat, especially when everywhere in the CIS (I think less in Belarus) in all IMPORTANT places are pests / corrupt officials and traitors.
        11.
        If you recall the history of the Second World War, then tell me how, after the first months and all 2 years of the 1941-43 retreat, and then, when 1943-45 came, the GKO (state comm.obrony) resolved issues,
        how personnel ambiguities were immediately proved at the forefront, a fine battalion or by a court decision ...

        And for all 22 years, he will always find everywhere and VERY strictly punish the tractor driver Fedya and the shift guard Dusya.
        To ordinary and hungry citizens, they were afraid and utter a peep ...

        What do you tell me about these facts, not my unsubstantiated insults or maliciousness, answer comrades of 100% -defender Comrade Putin?

        Thanks for the exchange of views.
        1. Anti
          0
          19 August 2013 17: 53
          Hello, Michael!
          You know, Mikhailo, the windows of my house overlook the courtyard of the Kremlin, and on Fridays I meet with Vladimir Putin over a cup of coffee and discuss strategic issues with him. laughing
          But I allowed myself to fantasize a little about the awarding of the HMS with the Order of the Holy Apostle Andrew the First-Called. As comrade once said. A. Pushkin "A fairy tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it! Good fellows a lesson."
          Cavaliers were required to have a considerable fortune in order to "support the importance of this event." - and most importantly, "Where is Zin's money? The treasury is already tired of waiting .
          The order sign has two sides: the front one represents the image of St. Andrew hanging on the so-called St. Andrew's Cross, provided by an elongated image in the form of an oblique cross on which this holy Apostle was crucified. You will not return, grandmothers to the treasury will make the order of Judah Gorbachev, with your profile, and will award all traitors to the treasury posthumously, the first you will be awarded.
          In order to look at these clear signs of mercy and advantages, encourage others to brave and faithful services and other feats in wartime and peacetime. This applies to all embezzlers, repent before it is too late.
          Regards, Oleg. hi
          1. Anti
            -1
            19 August 2013 18: 01
            With regard to landings and ships, over those who collapsed, unfortunately it is not realistic. By law, any lawyer will oblige them. I looked briefly here, THE CONSTITUTION (Basic Law) of the UNION OF SOVIET
            SOCIALIST REPUBLIC
            Adopted at the Extraordinary Seventh Session
            The Supreme Soviet of the USSR of the ninth convocation October 7, 1977
            It was already adapted in 1977 to what happened.

            NATIONAL-STATE DEVICE OF THE USSR
            Chapter 8. The USSR - Union State
            Article 70. The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics -
            a single union multinational state formed on
            basis of the principle of socialist federalism, as a result
            free self-determination of nations and voluntary association
            equal Soviet Socialist Republics.
            USSR personifies the state unity of the Soviet
            people, rallies all nations and nationalities in order to jointly
            building communism.
            Article 71. In the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
            are combined:
            Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic,
            Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic,
            Belarusian Soviet Socialist Republic,
            Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic,
            Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic
            Georgian Soviet Socialist Republic,
            Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic,
            Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republic,
            Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic,
            Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic,
            Kyrgyz Soviet Socialist Republic,
            Tajik Soviet Socialist Republic,
            Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic,
            Turkmen Soviet Socialist Republic,
            Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic.
            Article 72. The right is reserved for each Union Republic
            free exit from the USSR.
            Consider this.
        2. Anti
          -1
          19 August 2013 18: 11
          Quote: michajlo
          And time is running out, how many people, talents, with knowledge, experience and secrets have scattered around the world ...
          You don’t throw an enemy tomorrow alone


          This is for you!! http://www.sdelanounas.ru/
    3. +2
      18 August 2013 19: 49
      such simple patriots of the country probably mean Khodorkovsky, bulk, daredevils, Ksenia-rabbit, Harry the chess player and other evil spirits ???
    4. grafrozow
      -6
      19 August 2013 00: 00
      Quote: michajlo
      The situation in Russia with the court and the execution on the spot,
      Who will shoot? Didn’t you shoot a bitch yet .. son. Did you spill a little blood? So you’re the first to go under the barrel and think, the shooter. What did the heroes of the revolution, Bukharin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Tukhachevsky .. ..
      1. +3
        19 August 2013 03: 29
        Good evening dear "NIK"! Or how to dignify you by name?
        About your e.ee. Remarks

        1.
        We have not poked yet.
        Let's get to know each other better, exchange opinions, argue, or agree, clarify our "resonant frequencies", then you are welcome. smile
        2.
        Wouldn't it be embarrassing for you, READ my Comment again, FIND in it the place where "I CALL for executions"?
        And point it here!
        3.
        Or you cited as an example, the history of the Second World War,
        IMMEDIATELY they arbitrarily ranked me among the "SMERSH-sheep with a charged Makarov, removed from the fuse"?
        4.
        May I hope you get an intelligible answer from you, or tell me where I made a mistake,
        or I CALL you all to GO to the Kremlin,
        or build a "firing squad" in a row?
        5.
        By the way, apologies for boorish behavior are also accepted!
        What does not happen on the weekend, especially at the end.

        Sincerely, Mikhailo. hi
  48. Valery Neonov
    +3
    18 August 2013 16: 28
    Quote: MG42
    Here is a better quality clickable photoshop >>

    Someone argues ... salt, matches, forgot nothing ... a.
    1. MG42
      +3
      18 August 2013 16: 39

      The gay rights movement threatened the institution of marriage, and if successful, it would irrevocably change American society. And President Obama has a key role in this attack on traditional America, The Washington Times commentator believes.

      Obama’s refusal to uphold the constitution of the Defense of Marriage Act is “not just a serious violation of his constitutional duties, but also a frank surrender to the homosexual lobby,” Kuner said. “Although the president claims he is still“ trying to solve ”the issue of same-sex marriage, he is a radical social liberal,” writes Jeffrey Kuner. - He supports the “strong” civil unions of homosexuals. He argues that restrictions on same-sex marriage are a manifestation of “discrimination” and “homophobia.” He favors abortion on demand, including the barbaric practice of aborting at a later date. He advocates the study of embryonic stem cells. He speaks only well of euthanasia. In short, he defends a culture of death. ”


      On the left it looks vaguely like a woman on the right, the transvestite in the photo>
      1. +1
        18 August 2013 20: 51
        Quote: MG42
        On the left it looks vaguely like a woman on the right, the transvestite in the photo>

        Awarding ceremony of the winners of combat sambo competitions in Sochi 2013.
        In the photo V.V. Putin and a sambo wrestler from South Africa.

        Clickable photo:

        Putin: "You Man,you FIGHTER, even if you didn't win, but you went to the end ... "

        P \ S: The outcome of the 4 -1 tournament in favor of Russian sambo wrestlers ... good
        1. MG42
          +3
          18 August 2013 20: 59
          I did not enter the flight of your thoughts Corsair, and here Putin to my comment with Babama photo above?
          1. -1
            18 August 2013 22: 15
            Quote: MG42
            I did not enter the flight of your thoughts Corsair, and here Putin to my comment with Babama photo above?

            In theory, my comment on the photo was supposed to make up the contrast of the photo laid out at the beginning of your comment (hugs Obama). It is a pity the idea was not understood, I will work on myself laughing .

            Putin is a MAN and appreciates COURAGE, not ...
            1. MG42
              +1
              18 August 2013 22: 28
              Quote: Corsair
              In theory, my comment on the photo was supposed to make up the contrast of the photo laid out at the beginning of your comment (Obama's hug)

              and with such a subtle plan, you quoted the very end of the comment where the photo and the transvestite are in a red topic with a grandmother what
              Quote: Corsair
              . It is a pity the idea was not understood, I will work on myself

              Yes
              Quote: Corsair
              Putin is a MAN and appreciates COURAGE, not ...

              Is this a photo with Putin and the broken-down face of a boxer-loser, in the background is the lady on the right with the makeup confused?
              Putin has a bunch of all sorts of photos, for example >>

              1. 0
                18 August 2013 23: 09
                Quote: MG42
                Is this a photo with Putin and the broken-down face of a boxer-loser, in the background is the lady on the right with the makeup confused?


                With the text "puncture" came out (but I said that I would fix it lol ), and the photo with the "broken face of a boxer-loser" just should contrast with the sleek and gay-like faces of Obama and his "friend" ...

                A marine from South Africa ("loser" in your opinion) will again and again storm the sports Olympus, despite the "broken face" - because he is a man and an athlete.

                Official I took the freshest photo. "Lady"in the photo on the conscience of the tournament organizers and the photographer, I am not a censor to Filter something.
                1. MG42
                  0
                  18 August 2013 23: 29
                  Thanks for the minus, corsair. hi I can thank you. lol By the way, I did not put on this thread, and in general in mosaics and week results I rarely put cons. They have a rest here.
                  1. 0
                    18 August 2013 23: 43
                    Quote: MG42
                    Thanks for the minus, corsair. I can thank you.

                    I am grateful that someone else has appreciated your pickiness and corrosiveness ...soldier
                    1. MG42
                      +4
                      18 August 2013 23: 49
                      Nevermind... drinks Apparently someone doesn’t like Putin in a kimono ..
                      1. +2
                        19 August 2013 00: 20
                        Quote: MG42
                        Nevermind...

                        Always "For" drinks wink

                        A selection of photos from GDP is good.
            2. MG42
              +5
              18 August 2013 22: 45
              GDP >>



        2. +1
          19 August 2013 07: 44
          The famous Russian MMA fighter Vyacheslav Vasilevsky defeated the highly experienced light heavyweight from South Africa Trevor Prangli in the main match of the match between the Russian and world combat sambo teams in Sochi.

          This fight has not in vain received the status of a central one. Over the course of his 40 years, Prangley has performed in many major MMA promotions, including UFC and Strikeforce. The South African has won over such famous fighters as American Chel Sonnen and Russian Andrei Semenov. Vasilevsky is one of the most promising domestic athletes, proven not only in his homeland, but also in the United States, where he was noted in the Bellator.

          The beginning of the first round took place in a double-edged struggle. However, two minutes before the gong, Vasilevsky missed a blow to the head and ended up on the floor of the ring. Prangley took advantage of this and began to finish off an opponent on the ground. But the Russian managed to lie down without serious consequences.

          In the second five-minute Vasilevsky had a noticeable advantage. At the beginning of the round, he brought down a hail of powerful blows at Prangli and eventually took a dominant position in the stalls. The battle ended in the middle of the third five-minute period. The Russian again flunked the South African into the stalls and confidently finished off him, having won by technical knockout.

          The veteran looked very dignified, several times he caught Vasilevsky with a "sore", but willpower was also at its best.
    2. -1
      19 August 2013 13: 22
      Eggs forgot ... and
  49. Valery Neonov
    +3
    18 August 2013 16: 29
    The trend however ... laughing
  50. +4
    18 August 2013 16: 46
    Quote: michajlo
    Or is he, as an experienced intelligence officer, still in the position of an IMMEDIATE ?, and Comrade Putin will show the real power later

    And here in the estimates of Uv. michajlo , we are not critical but we disagree.
    At the moment, Putin is the "Most TO" for Russia.
    From the middle of 80x to 2000, we did not have a president, and only with his arrival the state began to acquire real sovereignty. his domestic political decisions are not indisputablebut in foreign policy, he consistently upholds the interests of Russia. And he is impressed by his statement that the collapse of the USSR is a real historical tragedy.
    Another time will come, the state will get stronger, and the time will come for another politician at the national scale ... but for now, GDP.
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  51. +8
    18 August 2013 16: 46
    Summary of the week:
    "Russia's unemployment rate is 5,7%."
    What kind of worker is she?
    Men of the most able-bodied age vegetate as security guards.
    Moreover, many protect those who should be protected behind bars.
  52. +3
    18 August 2013 17: 01
    Thanks Oleg! As always, talented and witty.
    This is not the first time rumors have spread about the death of Mikhail Gorbachev.
    But we need to prepare for this joyful event. And first of all, public opinion must be adjusted in such a way as to under no circumstances allow the burial of the remains of this...(4 warnings, however...) in our homeland. Well, perhaps somewhere in a cattle burial ground.
    1. +3
      19 August 2013 17: 01
      Just so that the cattle burial ground is in Oklahoma or Kansas.
  53. +3
    18 August 2013 17: 04
    Quote: Corsair
    At the moment, Putin is the "Most TO" for Russia.
    From the mid-80s to 2000 we did not have a president.

    I agree entirely. Putin is not very well liked here. But in vain. There is something to compare with. Unfortunately.
    1. RSNV.
      -2
      18 August 2013 21: 46
      Unfortunately, there is someone to compare with, but in whose favor this comparison will be... But now, undoubtedly, GDP is our everything.
  54. +4
    18 August 2013 18: 48
    Russia at the World Athletics Championships took first place in the medal standings, ahead of the USA by 1 gold medal! Happy holiday to everyone who is connected by heaven. By screws!
    1. Alex 241
      +2
      18 August 2013 19: 00
      Happy holiday Boris! All the best! Here’s to you! drinks
      1. +2
        18 August 2013 22: 53
        The takeoff is very beautiful, but also extreme (already almost beyond the point of foul) good Another confirmation of the quality and durability of Soviet technology. drinksProfessionalism and partly the madness of the pilots.
      2. +2
        19 August 2013 07: 08
        Alexander, thank you! There is a catastrophic lack of time. I threw away the cognac for all the “winged” ones from the site. The takeoff is more than impressive!!! We just sat down like that. We flew to a summer camp, to a field airfield with the corresponding call sign “Champignon”. We sat down in the traffic. The crew of the political officer, board number 13. I don't know how the drive worked there. We were assured that we were on course and glide path. We've gone far. The commander and navigator did not observe the runway, so they called for help from the entire crew, with the exception of the gunner, who was praying to the tail. The strip was noticed by a technician about 20 degrees to the right. Turn to the right, left and three points wassat I found a handle from one of the long-distance radio switches (Neon or Granite) in the cockpit on the second day. But all the lamps remained intact. For Soviet technology and luck multiplied by skill! drinks
  55. +2
    18 August 2013 19: 06
    The review lifted my spirits! A big plus. And also, Happy Aviation Day! Hurray!
  56. +2
    18 August 2013 19: 06
    Quote: smile
    michajlo Hello. Why do you think that someone is controlling Dame and Putin... right from behind the curtain... and specifically the theatrical one? Why don’t you think that it’s experienced directors who instill such clichés in you? And you, naive believe...and really naive, forgive me, because only a super-naive person can present the situation in the country in such a primitive way...
    Your statements smell too much of a swamp....both statements and assumptions...:))) ... .... I would be grateful if you proved Putin’s corruption and obedience...otherwise In this case, it will look like your patriotism, decency, honesty and just common sense have left you and moved to an illegal position....which sad event prompted you to write this comment of yours.....:))))

    № 1
    Good afternoon, dear “smile”, or whatever you call your name!
    Thank you for your rating my naivety or controllability from the outside, and even the “swamp spirit”.
    I was very interested to hear someone else’s opinion (i.e., yours about my intentions), how you assessed my frank and open conclusions, and I assure you, without hidden intent.
    Let's take it in order, your entire assessment of my statements or how I look in your eyes.
    First I'm not ashamed of them, I say what I think.
    Second, if you and other forum members, patriots of the Union and Russia, convince me that I was wrong in my public conclusions, I will be VERY HAPPY to apologize to the forum members for my ERROR and NAIVETENESS!
    As the old proverb says: “Erare humanum est” / “Nothing human is alien to me”, in this particular case I mean the possibility of any person making mistakes.
    Thirdly. If your opinion is that I am mistaken or naive in judgment, easily inspired, we can discuss here, and if our mutual arguments are in vain, then Time will fully judge us, we can wait. It won't be long, only 4-6 years...
  57. +3
    18 August 2013 19: 11
    [b]№2[/b]
    [b]Fourth.[/b]
    Regarding the presence of a “swamp spirit...” in me, this is
    I was surprised and touched a nerve.
    Personally, I have a very negative attitude towards human rights activists or lovers of truth (probably like you).
    And this is because they do not protect someone weak or unfairly punished, who has suffered from arbitrariness, but using any convenient opportunity for them, someone else’s name, they pursue their PERSONAL goals and fulfill ANOTHER’S ORDER (paid for).
    I do not pursue such goals and have no intention tomorrow or the day after tomorrow to create or lead some current/movement and then offer my “Customers” (whose existence you so categorically deny) my POLITICAL SERVICES (for a fee, as usual).
    Do you understand what I’m writing about, or I still need to clarify.
    [b]Fifthly.[/b]
    Regarding politics and the behavior of politicians, I perceive them “as “representations for gullible and naive” voters and citizens at home and abroad. I will explain to you why this is so. I came to this essentially “very sad conclusion” already in my mature years (after 40-45) and comprehending the experience and comparing it with facts and documents that are new to me (not unfounded judgments, such as “Vasya told me how Fedya said that Petya heard THIS somewhere”)...
    Before that, like most naive and honest patriots of the Union, I believed without hesitation everything that was told to me, especially by those senior “in rank” and the leadership of our Union...
    [b]Sixthly.[/b]
    I personally really like that here on the VO forum, the majority of forum members defend Comrade Putin and his steps, instructions and resolutions.
    For my part, I can only confirm (from Eastern Europe/EU) [b]that from the outside of Russia, [[b]/b] Putin as president currently [/b]looks very good and dignified, especially compared to MSG, EBN and DAM.
    Don’t look for sarcasm or trickery in my statement of facts, this is a fact and for me personally it’s very pleasant!
    But if I compare his words, promises, actions and real results (for 13 years since 1999) and the critical statements of VO forum members and others, then excuse my frankness, I can only repeat the well-known expression “But the king has no clothes”!

    If you consider my statements and opinions to be the tricks of a disguised enemy of Russia and the Union and another “paid troll,” then I am sure that you will understand that you are wrong and perhaps over time, you and I will come to a similar general or similar opinion.

    And what is my humble voice
    does not fit into the [b]STREAM of odes and praises “for the glory of our father of the people,”[/b]
    So I am sure that a critical or doubtful look from the outside also has a positive meaning, and after a certain time, it is quite possible that you, in some ways, I don’t think in everything, will agree with me, or with the critical/disbelieving statements of other forum members.

    Ask more, or tell me what in my position, conclusions, seems inappropriate, insincere, imposed or fake/custom-made to you?

    I will be glad to exchange opinions with you, because I do not exclude the possibility that you will point out my mistakes or conclusions or assessments imposed on me.
    And be so kind as to indicate your name, unless of course you are an “illegal agent.” smile
    Sincerely, Mikhailo. hi
    1. 0
      18 August 2013 20: 50
      michajlo
      Greetings again!

      1. Just a tip: under the comment you want to respond to there is a virtual “reply” button. After activating it, a window will appear for your comment - and then your comment will be attached to the words of the person with whom you are talking - this is more convenient - the opponent will see that you answered him.
      2. You can call me whatever you want - it doesn’t matter to me. It’s probably more convenient for you to use a nickname - why open someone else’s profile every time and find out his name, and not everyone indicates it... my name is Vladimir - if I’m an illegal agent - consider that I lied to you - oh, sorry, I indicated a pseudonym ...:)))
      3. You simply amazed me with your peacefulness... I even felt ashamed for your rather caustic manner of communication... you put pressure on me... - you just shot the flight in one shot... I admit, it was done masterfully and worthy of respect.. ..In general, forgive me if I offended you....

      But in essence of the dispute.... it’s clear that time will judge us, as they say - we’ll see...:))) where to go...:)))

      I do not deny the existence of "customers". I deny that Putin and even Dame work under anyone’s external control (although, naturally, they must take into account the interests of their supporters and opponents, like the leaders of any other country, like the Politburo in its time). This, as well as the opinion that everything is bad with us, is essentially our main contradiction.
      And personally, God forbid, I certainly didn’t suspect you of anything, especially that you were someone paid there and were using some tricks.... I mentioned the swamp spirit, alas, because your statements really similar to their rhetoric...alas.

      Regarding criticism...you know, I’m not his ardent supporter, and if it weren’t for the swamp critics (I repeat, this is not about you), if the more or less organized opposition were objective in assessing his actions, the situation in Russia, and could If I were able to offer something truly sensible and useful, I myself would be happy to criticize him....especially since there is something to criticize him for. if I defend Putin, this does not mean that I do not see that he is not an ideal (by the way, there are no such people), or that I am satisfied with everything that is happening in the country...
      By the way, your voice is far from alone, and you know this very well...:)))

      In general, Mikhailo, once again forgive me for my harshness, make allowance for my youth - I’m 42 years old, that is, in your opinion, I have not reached the age of maturity... :))) We really have common ground in our views, and If we had communicated verbally, I am convinced that we would definitely have agreed...thanks for your extensive and comprehensive answer. It was just a pleasure talking to you. Goodbye!
      1. +3
        18 August 2013 23: 29
        Good evening Vladimir!
        Thank you for your answer, I read it, it was nice to read your words!

        Since you and I, here for the amusement of the forum members, like overheated roosters (in front of their hens), have already “pecked each other in the crown”, I believe that you and I have gotten to know each other a little better, and have received s.y.s. some idea about each other.

        I shake your hand, dear! good

        I hope we’ll discard tight hugs and lingering kisses in the “ala Leonid Ilyich” style. smile
      2. +2
        19 August 2013 01: 27
        Dear Vladimir!
        I would like to add a few more words. Because after re-reading your answer, I paid attention to your words: “..criticism”, “today there is no one more worthy than Putin.”
        In my opinion, you, like many others, are receiving the President as a God-given person, whom one is only allowed to “QUIETLY ask for something while lying on his knees...”
        In essence, Yarosvet and Oscar have already answered you here, if I’m not mistaken, that we are all ordinary citizens who comply with the Laws and regularly pay Taxes, we have the RIGHT from him and the authorities to DEMAND the priority fulfillment of OUR REQUIREMENTS, to take care of the country, the people, the children, the elderly etc.

        And when you read,
        - how many times has another military enterprise, design bureau, scientific institute, laboratory been RE-REFORMED before they were dispersed and the structure and surrounding territory were “slammed”,
        - how much was the cost of a new GERMAN non-Russian limousine and other NEEDS of ordinary Russian TECHNIQUES,
        - so, according to my common people, it’s time to not only clean it, but load magazines for the AK,
        - but first we need to CAST SILVER BULLETS for these multiplied werewolves!

        But explanations or excuses that Comrade Putin “didn’t personally steal”, “didn’t guard the thief”, “there’s not enough for everyone”... don’t work on me, it’s in his power to appoint, exact, reward, forgive and have mercy.

        In my opinion there can only be two options

        - or comrade Putin, this is the President of the people and the SON of Russia, a follower of Dzerzhinsky and the LEADER, gathering the Union for the 2nd time,

        - or he is a clever Shifter-TRAISON to the Motherland/ACCOUNTER of the enemies of the USSR/Russia.

        Perhaps my statements to you and other forum members will seem harsh or rude, but Comrade Putin did not become President yesterday, but has already served his 3rd term.

        IT IS TIME to present RESULTS - a REPORT on fulfilled PROMISES - to the Russian people.

        And everyone knows that any government in any country does only what its PEOPLE, its VOTERS (according to “democratic fashionable concepts”) allow it to do.

        Sincerely.
        1. +1
          19 August 2013 01: 34
          Quote: michajlo
          Dear Vladimir!
          I would like to add a few more words. Because after re-reading your answer, I paid attention to your words: “..criticism”, “today there is no one more worthy than Putin.”
          In my opinion, you, like many others, accept the President as a God-given person, whom you can only “QUIETLY ask for something while lying on your knees...”
          In essence, Yarosvet and Oscar have already answered you here, if I’m not mistaken, that we are all ordinary citizens who comply with the Laws and regularly pay Taxes, we have the RIGHT from him and the authorities to DEMAND the priority fulfillment of OUR REQUIREMENTS, to take care of the country, the people, the children, the elderly etc.

          And when you read,
          - how many times has another military enterprise, design bureau, scientific institute, laboratory been RE-REFORMED before they were dispersed and the structure and surrounding territory were “slammed”,
          - how much was the cost of a new GERMAN non-Russian limousine and other NEEDS of ordinary Russian TECHNIQUES,
          - so, according to my common people, it’s time to not only clean it, but load magazines for the AK,
          - but first we need to CAST SILVER BULLETS for these multiplied werewolves!

          But explanations or excuses that Comrade Putin “didn’t personally steal”, “didn’t guard the thief”, “there’s not enough for everyone”... don’t work on me, it’s in his power to appoint, exact, reward, forgive and have mercy.

          In my opinion there can only be two options

          - or comrade Putin, this is the President of the people and the SON of Russia, a follower of Dzerzhinsky and the LEADER, gathering the Union for the 2nd time,

          - or he is a clever Shifter-TRAISON to the Motherland/ACCOUNTER of the enemies of the USSR/Russia.

          Perhaps my statements to you and other forum members will seem harsh or rude, but Comrade Putin did not become President yesterday, but has already served his 3rd term.

          IT IS TIME to present RESULTS - a REPORT on fulfilled PROMISES - to the Russian people.


          A very specific comment! But, your last words:

          And everyone knows that any government in any country does only what its PEOPLE, its VOTERS (according to “democratic fashionable concepts”) allow it to do.

          cross out everything that was said above, because you yourself also allowed and are allowing what is happening to happen?
          1. +3
            19 August 2013 02: 57
            Good evening, dear!
            You re-read my words again, slowly, think about it.
            Why do you think that with my last sentence I crossed out EVERYTHING I wrote above?

            I'll explain it to you again. My thought is
            - that NOW it’s not enough jingoism and to rejoice that instead of a drunkard and a dirigent with someone else’s EBN orchestra, the savior “Saint Vladimir” came and expect alms from him,
            but we need to DEMAND the people (not the deputies) to fulfill their duties as PRESIDENT every month.
            In the meantime, we are all calming down on the fact that once in 4-6 years they will promise us that before the elections the dirt and ruins will be covered with posters, and then wait until the new elections...

            What else should I explain to you, dear,
            or now you are not satisfied with the FONT, the inclination of the letter, the grammar?

            Do you have any other questions ABOUT this topic?

            About:
            I PERSONALLY, in my youth and naivety in 1985-1991, obediently listened to the fairy tales and calls of the TRAITOR TO THE HOMELAND "Gorby and Co", without thinking about what his steps would lead to, why he was so protected, who PROMOTED him there, and even now after the incident decades, I began to pose the questions I wrote here.

            I do not absolve myself of my guilt for non-interference and simply observing from the sidelines the collapse of the Union!!!
            I am ashamed for my naivety and gullibility and NOW!

            I just want to tell you, those who remember those times from walking with my mother or stories, how now, from a distance of 20-30 years, I evaluate all this and why, at the age of 45-50, I changed my views and assessments, which I held at 20-30 years.

            How else can I be of assistance, dear?
        2. -1
          20 August 2013 14: 16
          Quote: michajlo
          In my opinion, there can be only two options - either Comrade Putin is the President of the people and the SON of Russia, a follower of Dzerzhinsky and the LEADER, gathering the Union for the 2nd time, or he is a clever Shifter-TRAISON of the Motherland / ACCIDENT of the enemies of the USSR / Russia .

          between white and black there are many shades of gray... today's politicians flock together there... and the majority fumble for their own pleasure... he is no exception... that's where you look for him... hi
  58. +3
    18 August 2013 19: 36
    Quote: Dobryak Ukraine
    Surprising:
    Kuchma - Threesome
    Yushchenko - also did not shine with his mind, even in comparison with the previous
    Yanukovych - just no words
    Klitschko - The culmination of the series "Dumb and Dumber"

    Where do we find them?

    All our (Ukrainian) rulers have a lack of brains that is visible at the genetic level, and in addition, the fangs are repulsed. In general, it’s a shame for Ukraine, I’m amazed myself. Why are there so many idiots per square meter in Ukraine? Maybe it’s some kind of virus????????
    1. Arabist
      +3
      18 August 2013 19: 41
      In this wonderful story, the miracle is not that it happened, but that Ukraine, despite all these miracles, still exists. All we can do is congratulate the courageous fraternal Ukrainian people.

      P.S There was no intention to offend any of the Ukrainians. If it does work out, I'm sorry.
  59. +2
    18 August 2013 19: 50
    Quote: Corsair
    Quote: michajlo
    Most Ukrainian citizens, I am personally convinced, for living together with everyone within the framework of the former USSR, since the idea of ​​independence and a solitary jerk forward to the West are completely discredited!


    Hello, it’s very nice to meet a person on the site whose opinion is somehow similar to your own. Ukraine and my pain, it’s not a stranger to me.
    The more people in Ukraine, Russia and the world who are rooting for the reconstruction of the renewed Union, the stronger the voice. A voice that no one dares to ignore ...

    support!
  60. Kovrovsky
    0
    18 August 2013 19: 50
    Quote: Civil
    Here is an excellent report, we would also have done an analysis of the domestic political situation) we would have laughed together)

    Klitschko has already given several Russophobic interviews; he is against the Russian language in particular!

    All hope is for Povetkin. I hope he will make Klitschko respect the Russians in the fall!
  61. +5
    18 August 2013 20: 04
    regarding the Romanian general...what do you want, Americans only know about Russia what THEIR media writes or their television shows. And their media, I tell you, is more sophisticated than ours in the seventies. so, no matter what crap they say about Russia (USSR), people eat it all. there is no other.

    It’s recently that Russia Today has somehow begun to open their eyes.
  62. +2
    18 August 2013 20: 12
    Quote: Arabist
    In this wonderful story, the miracle is not that it happened, but that Ukraine, despite all these miracles, still exists. All we can do is congratulate the courageous fraternal Ukrainian people.

    P.S There was no intention to offend any of the Ukrainians. If it does work out, I'm sorry.

    Good afternoon, dear “Arabist” (what would you like to call you?)!
    Thank you for supporting Ukraine and the Ukrainian people and believing in a common future! good

    To us patriots of Ukraine (not loudmouths and suck-ups of the authorities), NOTHING to be offended by friendly criticism from patriots of the Union real course of the "Kiei Titanic" and a vague statement of an impending catastrophe.

    This is, unfortunately, the unpleasant truth... As the saying goes: “There’s no point in blaming your face if your face is crooked.”
    I would like as quickly as possible for the forum members to evaluate the JOINT work of Ukraine in the CU, and not HOSTILE activity Kyiv political elite.

    Oh my fantasies and hopes!!! smile
  63. dpwPOL
    +2
    18 August 2013 20: 20
    Wow, today is my 6th wedding anniversary! and aviation day is just super-duper!!! )))
    1. +2
      18 August 2013 21: 48
      dpwPOL
      Congratulations! I wish you that your many grandchildren come to visit you on this day (not forgetting your great-grandchildren) and throw a huge feast at your place!.... and also that you have enough living space to accommodate them all, and enough health not to miss toast! :)))
  64. +1
    18 August 2013 20: 39
    Quote: smile
    michajlo Hello. Why do you think that Dame and Putin are controlled by someone... ... ...:))))

    Quote: Anti
    Quote: michajlo
    Well, you are in vain. I have my own truth, you have yours, in general I don’t understand people who allow themselves to speak negatively about senior political leaders...

    Quote: Corsair
    Quote: michajlo
    Or is he, as an experienced intelligence officer, still in the position of ILLEGAL?,...
    And here in the estimates of Uv. michajlo , we are not critical but we disagree. ...

    Good afternoon, dear forum users! Since I don’t know your names, I will address you as “nik-u”.
    1. 0
      18 August 2013 21: 52
      michajlo
      I answered you there above, right under your comment. addressed to me.
      If you click on a forum member’s nickname, his “profile” will open, where they usually indicate their name and place of residence if they wish.
  65. +1
    18 August 2013 21: 21
    P.S. to Admins, question or comment?!
    Some strange behavior of the pages on the site. After I write down my answer in the window, it is NOT recorded, the text of the answer is lost, and again I did not write down a copy of my answer with quotes at the top.
    Since I answered questions to me personally from three forum members, I will have to write the same thing again...

    Dear Admins! I will ask you for an answer or an assumption.
    What I described is:

    1. - a consequence of the server being overloaded by many forum users and simply browsing VO pages?

    2. - overload when connecting a PC to a VO server from Slovakia?

    3. - increased control over critical statements, since why only CRITICAL notes are “lost”?!

    4. - writing large text in the Notes window (without receiving a “Warning that a very large text has been entered)?

    5. - PC instability? (I haven’t noticed this anywhere except VO for many years).

    6. - the author’s crookedness, i.e. my humble person?

    Comrade Admins, I am very interested in your technical answer, since repeated errors are not random, but always have only ONE specific error.

    Thanks in advance, Michael.
  66. +2
    18 August 2013 21: 24
    No. 2 to my reply from 20:39
    No. 2 to my reply from 20:39
    Regarding your condemnation of my civic position, let me answer you one by one.

    First, to the “smile” comments:

    1. A question for you and the same “zealous cheerleaders and those praising the authorities for every step and vibration in the air”:
    - Why do you perceive critical statements of any citizen of the USSR/patriot of the Union addressed to the President of Russia regarding the RESULTS of his 13-year work in the Kremlin as “blasphemy of an infidel on the face of St. Vladimir”? Do you understand what I'm writing about? I specifically write about his affairs for the whole country. I do not intend to descend into gossip about his personal life and other things that are not related to his PERFORMANCE OF responsibilities as PRESIDENT (not rights or desires). Am I making myself clear? If not, I will describe my thoughts and conclusions in more detail.
    2.
    Why do you think that if I have my own DIFFERENT point of view on the “view and movements of the highest authorities before the common people” (i.e. GDP and LADIES), it was imposed on me, or is this a sign of my gullibility or suggestibility?
    1. RSNV.
      +4
      18 August 2013 22: 01
      For many jingoists, GDP is God and the last hope. Belief in a divine being is irrational, so you are unlikely to receive appropriate answers to your logical questions.
    2. Oskar
      +2
      18 August 2013 22: 11
      He accuses everyone like that. With “the fiery gleam of one’s own infallibility in the eyes”:)))
  67. The Indian Joe
    +1
    18 August 2013 21: 30
    Ukrainian boxer, the leader of the UDAR party, Vitali Klitschko, during a meeting with the President of the World Boxing Council, José Suleiman, announced that he was going to take part in the Ukrainian presidential race in 2015.
    - blows to the head have never made anyone smarter. A good boxer can easily become a bad politician, especially if all of Klitschka’s popularity as a politician rests on his popularity as an athlete.
    1. Yarosvet
      +5
      18 August 2013 23: 26
      Quote: Native American Joe
      blows to the head have never made anyone smarter


      At exactly
    2. 0
      19 August 2013 00: 01
      Quote: Injun Joe
      - blows to the head have never made anyone smarter. A good boxer can easily become a bad politician, especially if all of Klitschka’s popularity as a politician rests on his popularity as an athlete.

      A still from the popular Ukrainian comedy animated series "Fairytale Rus'" - "Bugai Vitalik"
  68. +2
    18 August 2013 21: 52
    No. 3 to my reply from 20:39 / AGAIN error and loss of what was written???
    (First to the “smile” comments:)
    3.
    In my youth, I believed without a doubt in the truthfulness and correctness of the statements and slogans of the party and government. Over the years, especially when the Union was systematically COLLAPSE before our eyes, I also accepted this as a “real historical fact” (your quote from Comrade Putin). But after 40-45, when I began to wonder why, the Union collapsed, there were wars, disasters, the most reliable Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant was blown up, neighbors were set against their own neighbors, and nothing happened...
    4.
    From the party elite and the KGB, some became the First and Last President of the USSR, others became Presidents of new INDEPENDENT COUNTRIES, they stole everything, even what was above ground and under the sea, ordinary people were turned into dumb laborers and nothing.
    No one was imprisoned (from the bigwigs, not the switchman uncles. Petya and Aunt Zina), they hung medals and orders on each other, they accepted Prizes (Nobel Prizes) from abroad, the kids of the bosses went to “improve their qualifications” in the West, to prepare for acceptance STEERING from senior tired executives.
    5.
    The large and all-powerful KGB, as well as the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense, the SVR, the GRU (just the mention of their names, ALL of our “democratic friends” in the West immediately broke out in a cold sweat or they ran to ask for advice and a psychologist),
    - did NOT see anything, did NOT hear anything, did NOT do anything,
    only quietly prepared and carried out a change of power in socialist countries with LIFETIME GUARANTEES to the party elites and secret services. Only in Romania alone, of all the socialist countries, did Ceausescu and his wife experience the wrath of the crowd, and even then perhaps precisely because they were too old-fashioned and were NOT imbued with the ideas and rules of PERESTROIKA???
    1. Arabist
      -1
      18 August 2013 22: 01
      The explosion at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant occurred because it was not that reliable. After that, all reactors of the RBMK system were seriously modified - they removed graphite displacers, installed a BAZ system, generally reduced the ability of operators to interfere too freely with the operation of the reactor, and increased the number of automation. In addition, the director was a turbine engineer by training, and the chief engineer was an electrical engineer, but not a nuclear scientist.
  69. Oskar
    +4
    18 August 2013 22: 01
    Quote: smile
    5. In addition to failures, mistakes and generally incomprehensible actions, Putin has a lot of achievements. which you can’t see only intentionally ....

    What are you talking about? The fact of the matter is that there are positions and professions in which mistakes are unacceptable. The President is one of them. “All people make mistakes” doesn’t work here! Doctor, pilot, nuclear power plant operator, etc. If you can't pull it off, get out!!! They do make mistakes, but the consequences are sad for the patient and for the unfortunate passengers and for the residents of the districts and regions where the nuclear power plant was located. And here is the Country. And Russia is now being repaired by a surgeon who, by mistake, cut out the liver instead of appendicitis and, instead of the surgical incision, sewed up an a..us.
    1. Arabist
      0
      18 August 2013 22: 16
      According to your version, are we already dead?
      1. Oskar
        +4
        18 August 2013 22: 24
        Can we come to our senses, in spite of the farrier? I want to live!
        1. Arabist
          0
          18 August 2013 22: 26
          Without liver? I wish you good luck in this difficult task. Although I myself think that, despite everything, we will be reborn like a phoenix from the ashes, because it has always been so.
          1. Oskar
            +1
            18 August 2013 22: 39
            That's all we hope for.
            1. Arabist
              +2
              18 August 2013 22: 41
              Well, we have seen much more difficult times and nothing.
              1. RSNV.
                +2
                18 August 2013 23: 14
                “There were worse times,

                But it wasn’t mean” (quote)
      2. waisson
        +2
        18 August 2013 22: 50
        don't lose heart senior
  70. +1
    18 August 2013 22: 03
    michajlo
    Our answers are attached to your comments, which move to the top as new comments arrive - go through the entire thread again - you have been answered a long time ago, and your answers are not lost. You start duplicating them.
  71. +1
    18 August 2013 22: 18
    No. 4 to my reply from 20:39
    (First to the “smile” comments:)
    6.
    In accusing me that I have a “swamp spirit” - you have gone a little far, dear “NIK”!
    Or is it according to the training manual from provocateurs from the circle of “people in civilian clothes”, you first try to rudely insult your opponent so that he is open and then give him a shot not in the gut but immediately a prohibited blow below the belt...
    And such petty tricks are repeated several times, though until you get change.
    Don't be alarmed, not from me. Life will teach you more, dear.
    And comparing decent people with paid political prostitutes and sent Cossack women, or the Western public, I will tell you openly, is not at all decent!
    Or is the main thing for you, dear “NICK”, that you complete your task from a superior THIEF and PESTS in ENAUGUSTS on time, and if you do it in mean ways, it doesn’t matter, in L**yanka, because everything will be hushed up as usual, not for the first time ...
    7. If you think that I am wrong, I am writing under someone else’s dictation, then we can continue the exchange of opinions.
    Or we’ll just stay with our opinions today, and time will judge us!
    We'll see in 4-6 years.
    By the way, if I am wrong about the “theater dolls” who are pulling the strings, I will be the first, personally here on the VO server, with great relief to apologize to the forum members that I was WRONG!
    The realization that the country is being led forward (following the course of the Titanic) does not add joy to any decent person.

    Especially if you’re not thinking about how to end today’s day, but are wondering what will happen to YOUR children, to your grandchildren, the unborn?
    1. Oskar
      +2
      18 August 2013 22: 38
      With both hands in favor: if in 6-8 years (I have a slightly different vision of the timing) it turns out that I am wrong regarding Pu and Co... On Putin’s knees I will ask for forgiveness on YouTube.
      1. 0
        19 August 2013 00: 55
        Quote: Oskar
        With both hands in favor: if in 6-8 years (I have a slightly different vision of the timing) it turns out that I am wrong regarding Pu and Co... On Putin’s knees I will ask for forgiveness on YouTube.


        Each of us may have our own requests to the authorities and our own vision of the timing of their implementation (although it is not a fact that exactly someone’s “wishes” will coincide with the course of the authorities and the requests of the majority of the population). How many people, so many questions and demands .

        I completely agree on one thing, TIME will tell everything...
        1. Oskar
          +3
          19 August 2013 05: 28
          If there is a sharp drop in oil prices, then the reserve money will be enough for 6-8 months (during this time many key figures will calmly retire and go into the shadows (everyone will find themselves in the West they curse, fortunately everything for this has long been ready) and government obligations will cease to be fulfilled. That's when we will immediately see who is who. And you and I will be left to disentangle a gigantic amount of crap... and after them.
    2. waisson
      +1
      19 August 2013 01: 25
      Our trip to Russia terrified us, but now people are friendlier
      How Russians have changed in 10 years
      I was in St. Petersburg. The attitude towards elderly people, mothers with strollers and disabled people is terrible. To get on the bus, my mother has to kneel on the bottom step and pull herself up on the handrails. Of course, no one thinks about keeping a stand on the bus for such cases, since they are so high. In the new buildings, tall, three-story high, overhead passages were built. It is impossible for elderly people and disabled people to get up. Of course, there are no elevators. In the metro, at modern stations, during transfers there are only stairs, no elevators are built. This happens in other countries, in London, for example, but only at old stations, where it is impossible to redo them. And in America there is simply a law obliging people with disabilities to have access to public places. There, without elevators and ski lifts, they don’t even allow you to open a restaurant.
      1. Oskar
        +3
        19 August 2013 05: 02
        We have such a law, but what's the point? We also have quotas for jobs for people with disabilities. Nothing gets done. Except, perhaps, for laws directed against the opposition. They'll put you in jail quickly...
  72. +1
    18 August 2013 22: 26
    To "smile"
    Quote: smile
    michajlo
    Our answers are attached to your comments, which move to the top as new comments arrive - go through the entire thread again - you have been answered a long time ago, and your answers are not lost. You start duplicating them.


    Thank you very much for the advice and clarification. good

    But I wrote about the "error" message, not a normal Record and Adding my answer according to the TIME it was added.

    I see all my notes received by the server in chronology, but the lost notes, NONE of them have made it to the site yet, and I haven’t found the texts anywhere in the “Cache”/OS...
    1. +1
      18 August 2013 22: 32
      michajlo
      Well, it means that slow-wittedness let me down...:))) I misunderstood you. But you go through the comments - I answered you.
  73. waisson
    -3
    18 August 2013 22: 49
    Yes, the guys were cackling like chickens on the roost, but if you sent my thoughts and sayings to the education of our youth, it would be useful, but here a woman with a cart is easier for a mare
    1. Arabist
      0
      18 August 2013 22: 52
      Don’t worry, no one thought of losing heart. The Russian spirit cannot be broken.
      1. waisson
        0
        18 August 2013 23: 04
        It's right good good good The Russian people are strong in spirit.
      2. waisson
        +1
        18 August 2013 23: 05
        sorry senior accidentally pressed the wrong button
      3. waisson
        0
        18 August 2013 23: 11
        thank you mutually grateful
  74. 0
    18 August 2013 23: 06
    Quote: smile
    michajlo
    Well, it means that slow-wittedness let me down...:))) I misunderstood you. But you go through the comments - I answered you.

    Thank you for your advice Vladimir!

    Yes, I was mistaken, I wrote again to one of your and other forum members’ remarks.
    But they are not copied and the second is only in a more developed form.
    Perhaps I will ask the Admins to remove one of them. I'll take a look.

    Regarding my lost “Notes” / with the receipt of the “error” message, alas, NOTHING was recorded ANYWHERE, and if I corrected my last Note, then the CHANGES were just as LOST...
    All that was left was a Note, “without correction of grammatical errors or stylistics.”

    By the way, I have now switched from Linux to Windows, the site pages are slowing down less, but the loss of Notes and the friendly “error” are exactly the same!
    Since writing the same Note 2-3 times within 1,5-3 hours, instead of 15-20 minutes, is already too much.

    In a word, what is there in VO, “only strangeness and fog in our Danish kingdom” (W. Shakespeare) ??? sad
  75. +1
    18 August 2013 23: 38
    Great, guys!
    1. MG42
      +2
      19 August 2013 00: 22
      Quote: Den 11
      Great, guys!

      Hi Denis! Where is the Deutsche Soldaten in the avatar? This is the actor Fillipov in the film > wink
      1. 0
        19 August 2013 00: 26
        Quote: MG42
        Hi Denis! Where is the Deutsche Soldaten in the avatar? This is actor Phillipov in the film > wink


        Hello Denis! I also want explanations... Yes
        1. -2
          19 August 2013 00: 38
          Hi Sanya! Deutsche Holdaten is in my blood (there's nothing you can do)
      2. -1
        19 August 2013 00: 35
        Great, Guys! I'm sick of these Uryaya-Patriots! Fascist-Fascist! I don't have to make excuses to them at all. And to hell with them! You know my story. I'm just tired of listening to the same thing. I'm the same
  76. TuKta
    0
    19 August 2013 05: 02
    the Spaniards lost, they could have thrown the English into the sea 100500 years ago, stupidly thrown their hats and controlled Gibraltar themselves
  77. +1
    19 August 2013 14: 12
    Angry holidaymaker B.H. Obama

    The Washington regional committee was confused...
  78. +3
    19 August 2013 15: 09
    "To 21-year-old Nikolai Sergeev, 19-year-old"
    At 19 and 21 during the war, their peers were already experienced soldiers and officers. And they play parkour and desecrate monuments. I might understand if they were 12-13 years old. But at 21...
  79. Molotov
    0
    20 August 2013 12: 22
    if I want to move to Germany... my wife and I say that we are gay and lesbian and we were forced to get married in our red homeland... we will be given a residence permit and other goodies there... or we will have to prove it somehow at customs ?))) with customs officers))
  80. rocketman
    0
    21 August 2013 10: 36
    Nitrid:
    It is a pity that Ukraine aside, nervously smoking, is watching.
    your lies. The first stage of the exercise is now underway. If nothing changed while I was on vacation, then in September the SU-27 flight from Mirgorod will join the exercises.