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The war of the future is lost yesterday

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The war of the future is lost yesterdayThe English newspaper The Guardian recently published a new revelation of the American Snowden, who had found refuge in Russia. He confirmed what experts have long known: the top-secret US National Security Agency (NSA) has 700 servers around the world that control all global information flows transmitted over the Internet. The system has the code name XKeyscore.


There is such a server in Moscow, presumably in the building of the American embassy. Moreover, the private American office, under the roof of which Snowden worked for the NSA, has its branch in Moscow already since 1991 of the year!


For the uninitiated, it can be explained that a server is a computer separated from a group of personal computers to perform any service task without direct human intervention. In other words, it is an automatic device that can control any computers connected to it and filter any information passing through these computers.

It would seem that there is something like an American server in Moscow and millions of computers in the apartments of Russian citizens, as well as on the tables of state officials of the government of the country, Rosatom, officers and generals of the FSB, the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs ... But what about?

The flow of information spread throughout the world, like water through pipes. First, a huge reservoir, such as a freshwater lake, then a smaller tank, then a district or village water tower - and so on to the end user. On the Internet, the role of the main storage and information distributor is performed by giant servers located in the USA. And since Internet users are becoming more and more every day and the flow of information is growing almost exponentially, the NSA is building in Utah (USA) another center for collecting and storing intercepted information on 5 Zettabyte. He will be commissioned in a month.

The next question is whether they intercept sensitive information in Russia? We have almost all of the country's leadership, including the president, left the walls of the KGB of the USSR, where they knew how to keep state secrets. But why the same Snowden literally said this: “I, sitting at my desk, can peek over the correspondence of anyone - from you or your accountant to a federal judge or president, if I have a personal email inbox”. And the thing is this.

All commands, e-mail, correspondence, and distribution of documents pass through devices called routers. These are devices that redirect computer traffic from one network to another. In fact, it is an analogue of a water distributing tank, when from one water flows into other tanks, and already from them, through small pipes it diverges to the end users. On the Internet, the flow of information from your computer first enters this same router, in which your destination is determined. And only after that, on other lines with your routers, does your mail reach its destination.

Here, as they say, the American dog is buried. The fact is that almost all routers installed throughout the world and throughout the Russian Federation were developed in the state of California (USA) by Cisco Systems, Inc. According to Igor Belov, an authoritative independent expert in the field of IT-technologies, these are “black electronic boxes”, stuffed with secret codes and control protocols for users. Moreover, according to US law, secret for anyone, but not for the NSA.

It is in these “boxes” that the primary analysis of the passing information is made, after which everything that deserves the attention of foreign intelligence comes to those storage servers. Even the computer networks of our defense and government organizations that are protected from outside interference do not bypass this American technology at some stage of information exchange: it is installed everywhere.

The question is - what to do? According to Mr. Belov, it is still too early to panic. There is time to rectify the situation. Russia has long developed a complete analogue of American technology that is compatible with all existing computer systems. The equipment is called "Rus M" and differs from products Cisco Systems, Inc. only secret codes and stitched protocols. This software is written by our specialists and is open to Russian special services. It is clear - closed to American. But one thing: "Russia M" does not interest anyone in Russia. Neither the FSB, nor the Defense Ministry, nor the government, nor the presidential administration. Although, according to Mr. Belov, the cost of refitting the most vulnerable Moscow computer networks is only a few tens of millions of dollars.

These organizations have long been notified of the development. Moreover, Russian routers are successfully operating in one of the largest districts of Moscow. In the meantime, our government departments are buying American spyware for state money, which is installed throughout the country. It has not happened, it is clear that in the event of a conflict brewing through the so-called remote access, our opponent will be given a command to completely block all computer networks in Russia. Or their work in the "glitch", which is even worse. The last war of Americans against Iraq took place just like that. First, the entire control system in the country, including air defense, was turned off, and only then the invasion began.

Something similar is already happening with us. For some reason, all super-reliable “Proton” missiles with GLONASS defense satellites, without which high-precision rocket weapon becomes useless, fall before reaching the calculated orbit. Our deputy prime minister blames the mechanics for this, without understanding the main reason.

Meanwhile, the Russian leadership continues to show the Americans a piece in their pockets. This Kremlin fig, backed by menacing words, sometimes looks rather menacing. But Big American Brother continues to brazenly sit at your home and knows everything about you: what you breathe, where you hide the loot stolen from the state, what kind of bomb you are preparing for it.

True, you can reassure yourself that there will be no hot war. Has it been lost for a long time?
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  1. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 17 August 2013 06: 32 New
    +4
    Well, I don’t know what Snowden said I knew before. It would be better if he gave people out of cyber troops and their work, it is really interesting here, especially to get samples of new computer viruses. And so there is no interesting!
    1. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 17 August 2013 06: 42 New
      23
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      Well, I don’t know what Snowden said I knew before

      Sorry, but deep doubts are gnawing at me that the media published everything that Snowden told ... PUBLISHED - this is just the tip of the iceberg! I am sure!
      1. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 17 August 2013 15: 55 New
        0
        Quote: KazaK Bo
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        Well, I don’t know what Snowden said I knew before

        Sorry, but deep doubts are gnawing at me that the media published everything that Snowden told ... PUBLISHED - this is just the tip of the iceberg! I am sure!


        Apparently not even the tip. Ibid. Talked about terabytes of data. Apparently showed a shadow from the visible part. No wonder the 314ndos are raging.
    2. Che
      Che 17 August 2013 07: 15 New
      +5
      True, you can reassure yourself that there will be no hot war.

      This statement is doubtful. Having weakened the state, it is easier to tear it apart; in this matter the amers will stop at nothing.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 17 August 2013 07: 28 New
        +9
        Quote: Che
        True, you can reassure yourself that there will be no hot war.

        To be hot is only a matter of time, the way the world is arranged. Only winners may not be.
        1. Che
          Che 17 August 2013 07: 34 New
          +8
          Alexander Romanov.
          Everything in this world is repeated. My thoughts arose after the excavation of Mohenjodaro in Pakistan. Molten buildings, the remains of radiation, corpses not buried. The man is still still beast.
        2. SPACE
          SPACE 17 August 2013 08: 26 New
          +7
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          To be hot is only a matter of time, the way the world works. Only winners may not be.

          Abama asks his supercomputer:
          -Will there be a war?
          -YES.
          -And how much will Coca-Cola cost after the war?
          -30 cents.
          Hot war is already a loss for them. Russia will be the winner!
          1. True
            True 17 August 2013 10: 23 New
            +3
            Great jokes! Both!
          2. patline
            patline 17 August 2013 10: 32 New
            +5
            Competent advertising article. Perhaps the routers "Rus M" and conquer the Russian market lol
          3. optimist
            optimist 17 August 2013 11: 56 New
            +3
            Quote: SPACE
            Hot war is already a loss for them. Russia will be the winner!

            Don’t give me a gop until you jump over! (Ancient Ukrainian proverb)
            1. SPACE
              SPACE 17 August 2013 16: 15 New
              +6
              "Russia is a country that has gone bankrupt in all respects, and which should plunge into chaos, poverty and continuous ethnic conflicts in the coming years. Russia is a black hole that does not have any geopolitical choice in its life ..."
              Z. Brzezinski, "Big Chessboard", 1997

              "If the West fails to conclude a long-term strategic alliance with Russia, then this may turn into global isolation for him ..."
              Z. Brzezinski, "Strategic Insight", 2012

              Here it is, the result of Putin’s policy ... And this result no longer depends on you or the Ukrainians with their sayings.
          4. Belogor
            Belogor 17 August 2013 13: 28 New
            +4
            in this case, there will be kvass instead of Coca-Cola.
        3. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 17 August 2013 15: 56 New
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Che
          True, you can reassure yourself that there will be no hot war.

          To be hot is only a matter of time, the way the world is arranged. Only winners may not be.


          There will be winners - worms, cockroaches ...
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 17 August 2013 15: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      Well, I don’t know what Snowden said I knew before. It would be better if he gave people out of cyber troops and their work, it is really interesting here, especially to get samples of new computer viruses. And so there is no interesting!


      What Snowden told was always known, the extent and some details were unknown. The scale was unimaginable, the details monstrous.

      Purely my opinion: People from American cyber military are unnecessary to us. Individual employees will be interested in highly specialized scouts for recruitment or terrorists for revenge. We, the country, need methods and facts in detail in order to be able to lead the enemy by the nose ad infinitum.

      Yes, now, why did you take that Snowden just like that, got a refuge on the ball and complied with the GDP conditions about silence?
  2. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 17 August 2013 06: 38 New
    +7
    One thing, however: “Rus M” does not interest anyone in Russia. Neither the FSB, nor the Defense Ministry, nor the government, nor the presidential administration.

    Is it really impossible to bring this information to the PRESIDENT ... bypassing the clerks of his administration ...
    I am sure if you bring it in a intelligible form ... the conversation will be short --- FIST AT THE TABLE AND "WHAT MAY BE DONE BY MORNING" !!!
    And they will do it!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 17 August 2013 07: 28 New
      12
      Quote: KazaK Bo
      Is it really impossible to bring this information to the PRESIDENT ..

      If the president is silent, this does not mean that he does not know.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 17 August 2013 12: 12 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        If the president is silent, this does not mean that he does not know.

        What does he not know?
        What Russia is technologically behind the West?
        That we do not produce competitive equipment or that we do not have our own technologies?
        Russia isn’t ubiquitous America - its own corrupt official will destroy it!
        But Putin will not have enough for everything, until the authorities and laws start to work, it will be so.
    2. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 17 August 2013 10: 18 New
      +4
      In Roscosmos, Serdyukovsky the savior is sitting. Continues Reforms
    3. patsantre
      patsantre 17 August 2013 12: 13 New
      0
      Do you think he doesn’t know what?
  3. shinobi
    shinobi 17 August 2013 06: 46 New
    20
    An article for dummies who knows about cinema and the yellow press about codes and hackers. Any server, router, computer can be broken if it is connected to the network. This is a matter of time and hardware. Therefore, all military networks are autonomous from the world. Our network still there is an additional trick in the form of a system mismatch. Well, the most primitive analogy, like they have a 127v socket. We have 220v. I don’t know the details, sorry. I know the current that it’s impossible to physically get into our military network from the Internet. Even some direct connection requires purely Russian lotions which are not publicly available. hi
    1. taseka
      taseka 17 August 2013 06: 54 New
      11
      And SINOBY FEW WHO KNOW that our power block hackers are the most hacker hackers in the world !!!
      1. shinobi
        shinobi 17 August 2013 07: 27 New
        +5
        Yes, they know that they are silent in a rag and are trying to catch it in a quiet place around the world, for personal use. In early 2000, there was a direct competition between our FSB / GRU and their NSA / CIA. Who is faster. yes

        PS: I wonder who so constantly minus me?
    2. Che
      Che 17 August 2013 07: 30 New
      +3
      Shinobi.
      There are countermeasures, but don't talk about them better. Let the amers sleep peacefully. Civilian networks are not military networks.
    3. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 17 August 2013 11: 35 New
      +1
      "System mismatch" is what the author writes about. Dummies should not comment on articles for dummies ...
  4. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 17 August 2013 07: 07 New
    10
    One thing can be said ... the article is normal..but we don’t have to rate our services quite so low..this America was discovered a long time ago ...
  5. Belogor
    Belogor 17 August 2013 07: 11 New
    +8
    The author has exaggerated, another horror story. In Russia there are structures (for example, FAPSI) that deal with such issues and I think that they were able to ensure the safety of those who need it. Media as usual inflates a bubble. Although no one denies certain concerns and problems in this area.
    1. Che
      Che 17 August 2013 07: 36 New
      +4
      It’s better to stay awake than not stay awake. Something like this. laughing
      1. dmit-xnumx
        dmit-xnumx 17 August 2013 10: 07 New
        +1
        - It is better to soberly, objectively consider the situation. And "overdoing it" is an ordinary reflection of a person unsure of himself.
      2. shinobi
        shinobi 17 August 2013 14: 52 New
        +2
        Che, quoting the wise folk aphorisms, reproduce them more accurately.

        It’s better to overdo it so you don’t overdo it later

        Respect to you.
    2. creak
      creak 17 August 2013 10: 34 New
      +3
      FAPSI was disbanded in March 2003.
      1. uhu189
        uhu189 19 August 2013 11: 05 New
        0
        This is the official version, it is disbanded.
  6. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 17 August 2013 07: 12 New
    +3
    Something reminds me of a widespread misinformation: we’ve already made you up, so don’t go round and round! If everything was as it is written in the article, then why is all this hype raised by the USA? The article is clearly provocative, but for what purpose? But is not all this fuss with Snowden part of some kind of CIA and NSA plan? Perhaps it’s even used "in the dark", it should be sorted out. And another question: are we really dead dumbasses sitting at our tops? I doubt however!
  7. nokki
    nokki 17 August 2013 07: 18 New
    +5
    Quote: tronin.maxim
    Well, I don’t know what Snowden said I knew before. It would be better if he gave people out of cyber troops and their work, it is really interesting here, especially to get samples of new computer viruses. And so there is no interesting!


    This is not important, although necessary. The problem is more global than we imagine. I'll start with an accessible example. Ubisoft Montreal recently unveiled a new Watch Dogs game. This is an action whose protagonist, connecting to a common urban information network, can keep the lives of millions of people under control, gaining access to any information. And all this with an ordinary smartphone!

    It is clear that such ideas are not born in the inflamed consciousness of developers, but have roots in the world around them. In fact, initially computer technology and the Internet were imprisoned by the Americans to solve just such problems. Of course, for yourself, relatives! In the USSR, they perfectly understood this and, so to speak, always separated flies from compote (North Korea and China are now perfectly using this experience).

    After the 90 year, we go for the NSA and the CIA, like a donkey for a carrot. Can this be fixed? Uglanov's article proposes one way to solve the problem. I know there are others. That is, with difficulty, but it is possible!

    The question again and again rests on one thing - a sharp-willed political decision. As in the case with Serdyukov, everything is clear to everyone, we know how to act, but ... We can only wait and wonder how it will turn out. And this uncertainty is most of all destroying Russia from the inside. But - this is my opinion ...
    1. optimist
      optimist 17 August 2013 12: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: nokki
      The question again and again rests on one thing - a sharp-willed political decision. As in the case with Serdyukov, everything is clear to everyone, we know how to act, but ... We can only wait and wonder how it will turn out. And this uncertainty is most of all destroying Russia from the inside. But - this is my opinion ...

      That's the whole problem. To the tales of an “honest and naive tsar” (damned ministers don’t report such as gdp), Russia is sinking deeper and deeper ... Most people do not understand that GDP is such a "cardboard dope", like humpbacked with fuck. I understand the sincere desire of some “peppercorns” to hope for the best, but we must take a sober look at things: brazenly Saxons only in the 20th century raped us specifically 5 times (in 1904, 14th, 17th, 41st and 91st). It is clear that it is not worth looking for a rope and soap, but hat-making is inappropriate.
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 18 August 2013 13: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: optimist
        impudent Saxons only in the 20th century we were specifically raped 5 times (in 1904, 14th, 17th, 41st and 91st). It is clear that it is not worth looking for a rope and soap, but hat-making is inappropriate.

        No need la la, arrogant Saxons had no significant relation to any of these 5 dates.
        Shoals of their domestic mudil do not need to shift to someone else's backs.
        It was the Russian arrogant Saxons who raped in 1904 and 1914, and especially in 1917, when the Chamberlins piled a bunch of pounds of sterling into the Social Revolutionaries led by A.F. Kerensky and the white generals, and as a result they were thrown out of Russia, from China, from Central Asia, from the Caucasus, from Afghanistan, from Africa.
        A revolution is only worth something if it is made with German money (IRA slogan).
        1941 also led by no means to the place where the arrogant Saxons wanted, it cost them all the surviving overseas colonies, including India, which threw out the battered Germans in 1949.
        Yes, and the 1991 operation has already brought the Naglosaks more losses than profits, and this is only the beginning.
        A Russian bear in Europe is much more dangerous than a bear behind the Iron Curtain, even if its color has changed.
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 17 August 2013 07: 31 New
    -9
    In Russia, there is no production of either hardware or software, so I agree with the author, this is possible.
    1. dmitrich
      dmitrich 17 August 2013 09: 41 New
      -2
      yes yes there is nothing but morons.
    2. Tretyakov
      Tretyakov 17 August 2013 17: 49 New
      +1
      Well, if you don’t work in this area, then there’s nothing to say! Everything is there, but maybe not at that level - with regards to hardware, but software is much better!
    3. Gardamir
      Gardamir 19 August 2013 08: 57 New
      -1
      Judging by the cons, we have a lot of hardware and software. That's just all this is a state secret.
  9. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 17 August 2013 07: 44 New
    +5
    I don’t understand one thing: well, the Americans picked up information ... And then what?

    Hire 300 million Chinese to process it?

    A search by keywords? If Russia still has a secret Soviet encryption technology - it’s not clear what to call tanks or planes (product No. 678-ap / kv)))), then this is too tough for the Americans ...

    And what about the magic Russian word "crap"?

    Well, they will intercept the encryption of the General Staff, such as "take a hundred of these crap, yes dig it in," and they will guess whether the generals are planting potatoes, or the mines are muddied, or the "Poplar")))

    Well Americans are stupid, they can only guess such riddles: "A bird that croaks?"
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 17 August 2013 12: 01 New
      +6
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      Well, they will intercept the general staff’s encryption, such as “take a hundred of these crap, don’t dig it in,” and they will guess whether the generals are planting potatoes, or the mines are muddying, or the “Poplar”))) Americans are stupid, they can only guess such riddles : "A bird that croaks?"


      That is the point.
      Intercepted, say, Yusovtsy uncoded non-secret negotiations from our mission control center:
      - Where's the log?
      - A plate of macaque scratches.
      - Then let the garbage count.
      They have no idea what this means:
      - Comrade dispatcher, what is Lieutenant Colonel of the Russian Space Forces Vladimir Yegorych Derevyanko doing?
      - Comrade General, Lt. Col. Derevyanko at the space-based radar tracking station, clarifies the position in orbit of the international space station Mir.
      - Comrade dispatcher, tell Lieutenant Colonel Derevyanko, let him then take care of tracking the position of spy satellites in orbit ...
  10. Betahon
    Betahon 17 August 2013 08: 01 New
    +4
    It has long been clear to everyone that the Internet is a Trojan horse in any country and any industry! Another thing is not clear why the people who are responsible for state security and defense are so careless ?! You can’t catch all the spies anyway, but information and technical protection, taking into account our remaining “brains,” can be provided at a high level!
  11. pahom54
    pahom54 17 August 2013 08: 19 New
    12
    Not so scary. It was said correctly above: our military and state networks with proper secrets are closed from the Internet. And our state began to prepare for information protection back in the 70s of the twentieth century, when we had not heard of personal computers and the Internet. And they forgot that the Kaspersky Lab, which operates at a fairly high level, in the past or the year before last, identified and blocked the network of American electronic spies ... In general, I do not think that the president knows anything about the existing threat, or knows, but does not take any measures . Accepts, sure ...
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 17 August 2013 10: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: pahom54
      Not so scary. It was correctly said above: our military and state networks with proper secrets are closed from the Internet

      I support. Radio networks exist much earlier than computer ones. Data interception, channel closure, encryption, disinformation were all there. Hack ALMOST everything is possible with a certain operating system, and when the password is stored under the mouse pad.
    2. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 17 August 2013 11: 44 New
      +6
      Quote: pahom54
      Not so scary. It was said correctly above: our military and state networks with proper secrets are closed from the Internet.

      Custom article, another enemy horror story from the series - The enemy is strong, it's time to give up.
      In fact, all electronic communications networks in the Russian Federation are isolated from the Internet, and even more so are defense, energy, and government.
      Since the days of the USSR, several supercomputers and their own fiber-optic communication lines (fiber-optic communication lines) are inaccessible to any users and electronic espionage tools in the Russian Federation. There are no articles in the open press about them, for obvious reasons, and they are constantly being updated.
      Several Soviet supercomputers are included in the Dead Hand system controlling the Perimeter.
  12. individual
    individual 17 August 2013 08: 23 New
    +4
    The author convincingly said that a worm is sitting in each of us, but how to get rid of it? May try dust.
    But seriously, then we must create our own electronic base and our Russian RUNET to ensure national security.
    And let the children and users like Me play on the Internet!
  13. vvvvv
    vvvvv 17 August 2013 08: 38 New
    10
    Gentlemen and comrades, there are even simpler and more effective things besides intercepting information. I’m sure that it’s no secret to anyone that an information war is being waged in Runet, aimed specifically at the Russians. Of course, the FSB is also aware of this and I heard it directly from an active officer of a fairly high rank. And the matter is not only in discrediting something (although the main pressure is on the authorities and Putin), and not inciting ethnic hatred or any other kind of hatred. And for a long time participating in discussions with provocateurs in the social. networks I made certain conclusions. The main threat does not come from obvious provocateurs, but from those who act subtly and who behave very nice in discussions, and the "trick" is to transfer hatred to a "third party", against which people do not particularly resist, especially the argument can be quite objective . It is noteworthy that provocateurs are most often foreign citizens, although many may have profiles from Russia. And now, for example, the situation in Pugachev begins to escalate ... Suddenly, the whole foreign country begins to worry about Russia that it was tormented by Muslims in general and Chechens in particular. And their argumentation and the opinion of Russians in this regard can be objective and coincide. It’s straightforward that there is complete agreement and bad Muslims, who, at least, should be separated from the Caucasus ... So you begin to think about the good intentions of foreigners who want Russians to gain insight and not love Muslims, and often there are more radical calls. In Libya, NATO bombing was used. In Syria, mercenaries, al-Qaeda and the Syrians were roused, in Egypt the military and the Muslim Brotherhood. Question: with whom in Russia do Muslims want to deceive? Why do these provocateurs themselves not fight with Muslims, but incite others?
    After all, one thing is a reasonable migration policy and the solution of the national question, and quite another is the incitement of hatred.
    These are my thoughts and questions. And this is only on one topic ...
  14. july
    july 17 August 2013 08: 39 New
    +7
    Interest in the situation with Snowden is in some kind of incompleteness, there is smoke, no fire is visible. It also seems to me that only the technical aspects of this matter are already known to everyone, but why are the states so annoyed, even furious? If you flip through history, they always had a manic passion for the destruction of our country, plans were always updated, a striking example is the atomic bombing of the Union in 49g. It's no secret that even now such plans exist. So, maybe this comrade just about this and told our specialists and passed amers with offal? Specific actions, time, etc.? And imagine, now Obama must meet with Putin, and the stone is no longer in his bosom, but at Putin's desk? And all of this is well understood, and what is it for Obama to appear before Putin as a "friend" with such arguments? After all, Obama’s analysts are not completely dumb, they should have perfectly calculated that Obama’s world rating would fall after that, and nevertheless took advantage of these far-fetched reservations.
  15. dmitrich
    dmitrich 17 August 2013 09: 40 New
    0
    another scarecrow, we saw them, minus the author, do not tell your glitches.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 17 August 2013 09: 44 New
      +1
      quote from the video- That is, in the hands of selected journalists are a kind of time bomb. And now the secret services can only guess when the next one will explode.

      really when ?! winked

  16. nokki
    nokki 17 August 2013 09: 59 New
    +1
    Quote: shinobi
    PS: I wonder who so constantly minus me?


    Click on the number of voices and see. For example, in a previous comment some
    Burkhan and Polar. This way you can see how they vote for others.
    1. Belogor
      Belogor 17 August 2013 11: 29 New
      +2
      Sorry, accidentally clicked wanted to set + but it turned out the opposite repeat
  17. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 17 August 2013 10: 05 New
    +2
    in the event of a conflict brewing through the so-called remote access, our opponent will be given a command to completely block all computer networks in Russia. Or their work in the "glitch" mode, which is even worse. The last American war against Iraq happened just like that. First, the entire control system in the country was turned off, including air defense, and only then the invasion began

    Double-edged electronic stick.
    In the same way, our special services can drive such bullshit and desu through the "routers" that the American moms and mice die in the American boxes, and all the remaining snowden run up in different directions.
    And through the same networks you can easily launch such a ruff into the pimple-striped Yusov ass and fix such glitches that they themselves will let all their aircraft carriers to the bottom.
  18. srha
    srha 17 August 2013 10: 25 New
    +3
    See the server definition on the wiki:

    "a computer (or special computer equipment) that is dedicated and / or specialized to perform certain service functions",

    Compare with the "clarification" of the term in the article:

    "an automatic device that can control any computers connected to it and filter any information passing through these computers"

    I hope the difference between the "service" and "which can manage any" caught.

    And don't bother with the rest of the noodles. Encryption according to GOST 28147-89 from 89 still reliably hides data from the curious.

    But with the organizational question, i.e. understanding and fulfilling by people of data security requirements even at the highest level - alas ...
  19. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 17 August 2013 10: 58 New
    +2
    <<< Moreover, Russian routers successfully operate in one of the largest areas of Moscow. Meanwhile, with government money, our agencies are buying American spy equipment, which is being installed throughout the country. Even the computer networks of our defense and government organizations that are protected from outside interference will not bypass this American technology at some stage of information exchange: it is installed everywhere. >>>
    If so, then it is AMAZING! What is it - the usual Russian gouging, bureaucratic complacency, or maybe everyone does not care (they are so good)? And suddenly, maybe someone needs this from us? Then it’s not clear what the gigantic Russian army of security service workers is doing, why these spy games, if the huge flows of information, including the secret, calmly, avalanche are flowing to the Americans and nobody cares?
  20. DAGESTAN333
    DAGESTAN333 17 August 2013 11: 11 New
    +3
    No, I don’t believe that we are such and you. Surely, in critical places, we strongly insured ourselves. And yet, there should be a mechanism to isolate the all-Russian network instantly and at minimal cost.
  21. Evgeniy46
    Evgeniy46 17 August 2013 11: 31 New
    +1
    I wonder if there is an opportunity to stick a server next to their embassy through which already developed information will go to them?
    It would be possible, for example, to arrange a local groundwater breakthrough with the threat of a collapse of the embassy, ​​after which they could be moved to another building, and repaired and modernized by themselves
  22. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 17 August 2013 11: 44 New
    +1
    The author is an ordinary naive Chukchi boy from techies. Well, it’s directly touching. They created a good device and they think that now buyers will come running! What is so incomprehensible, you miserable engineer ?!
    If the correspondence of our officials is read somewhere in Utah, this will primarily harm the country! So what? You think! Many of our officials are harming the country by their very existence, got up, haven’t cleaned their teeth yet and have already done the first damage today. But if in our own data centers there will be our own routers and drives, the data from which will be primarily analyzed by people with hateful names such as Petrov - Ivanov, this will primarily harm our officials PERSONALLY!
    Author, have you been killed yet? And your company didn’t go bankrupt to hell by an explosion in the central office? Wait soon ...
  23. gura
    gura 17 August 2013 12: 06 New
    -5
    From Minsk. Edward Joseph Snowden, the whistle-blower of wiretapping and espionage of the US intelligence services, received asylum in Russia, where the extent of wiretapping and espionage abuse by citizens is hundreds of times greater than the US. In Russia, wiretapping of all telephones and each Internet user is not only provided for by applicable laws, but is conducted practically without any regard to the rights of citizens and organizations. Where do human rights activists look? After all Snowden faces unjustifiably cruel punishment - a Russian passport for life!



    Formally, wiretapping of telephone conversations and Internet traffic should be carried out by Russian special services strictly on the basis of Federal Laws, departmental orders and instructions. However, in practice, everything turns out not to be what the legislator wanted and beautifully set out on paper, but as always in Russia.
    Absolutely all telephone exchanges for cellular and fixed communications, as well as all up to one Internet provider in Russia, are connected directly to control points of the operational search measures system (PU SORM) of the FSB of Russia. The SORM system is designed in such a way that no one, except the operators of this system themselves - FSB officers, has any information about the control being carried out. Therefore, the implementation of procedures and restrictions on wiretapping provided for by the Law in Russia remains exclusively an internal affair of the FSB officers themselves and their immediate superiors. Theoretically, the activities of the FSB should be controlled by special prosecutors. However, the prosecutor's office in Russia has neither the technical means nor the real political weight for this.
    Who cares - the continuation can be found on the Internet.http: //vitki.org/2013/08/02/where-popal- edward-
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  24. knn54
    knn54 17 August 2013 12: 31 New
    +3
    What a hot war. The Cold War continues, only in a new format.
    From Clinton's speech at the secret meeting of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on 24: ...
    - the dismemberment of Russia into small states through inter-regional wars, similar to those that we organized in Yugoslavia;
    - The final collapse of the military-industrial complex of Russia and the army;
    - Establishment of regimes in the republics detached from Russia that we need.
    Yes, we will allow Russia to be a power, but only one country will be an empire - the USA.
    The tasks set then are carried out today.
    WHO OWNS INFORMATION, THAT OWNS THE WORLD
    Without its own production of electronics: chips, etc. DO NOT create secure channels.
    PS WHY THAT the State Commission bypass the topic of purchased electronics, stuffed with bookmarks. It's time to wool and trash, which feeds near the Moscow Region and the Russian Space Agency. For by introducing their spy electronics into the Yankees control systems, they don’t give a damn about profitability.
  25. washi
    washi 17 August 2013 12: 53 New
    +3
    Under Comrade Stalin, our computers did not lag behind the western ones, and some models were ahead of them. In the future, in spite of individual breakthrough technologies (modern multi-core processors are theoretical and practical developments of the USSR), we lagged behind in civilian use of computers (in the military sphere - at least on an equal footing).
    The fact is that, on the basis of computers, back in the early 60s, it was proposed to create an all-Union electronic state management system. Those. one could, in real time, see production, trade, etc. This was not beneficial to the party "princes" who bred under Khrushchev. As a result, because of their opposition, the backlog began.
  26. Novoyur
    Novoyur 17 August 2013 13: 12 New
    +1
    All right, like a clear day. Full computerization of Russia, and in addition, which does not have its own servers and search engines, when everyone uses American ones. When the entire Internet in Russia is tied to American servers and American satellites, then of course everything Russian is controlled by Americans. See how many accidents when launching Glonass satellites, stations to Mars. But there are no accidents with astronauts or with Progress, because they are not touched, and all other launches are controlled and, if necessary, destroyed. That is why we also need to try to do this. It’s pointless to look for evidence of influence, but you need to answer, and then look. How sad and tragic it all is.
  27. VI Kacheev
    VI Kacheev 17 August 2013 13: 12 New
    0
    Good day to all. Let me offer you my interpretation of the "visit" of Snowden, as well as a different understanding of the situation in the country. Snowden arrived from China - a reliable fact. This subject gave rise to some Obama coming to St. Petersburg, not to meet with V.V. Putin - by the way, President of Russia. Consider the household analogy - you invite a family to visit - on your birthday. But the guest’s wife says: "I will come on his birthday, but with evoy I won’t talk with a woman! "Will you invite such a couple to your birthday ?! How else has China" distinguished itself "this year? Not without the knowledge of China at the extreme BRICS summit kicked out (didn’t let the meeting room) guard B. V. Putin and the Russian Foreign Minister? This is a direct insult to V.V. Putin, whom, without the knowledge of the rulers of China, COULD NOT BE !!! Next - before the G-20 summit, a certain civilian subject from USA "remembered" what V.V. Putin has a ring FIVE YEARS AGO, I put it in my pocket. This is another insult to V.V. Putin - they called a thief. So: 1. Someone obama from USA, as well as a number of other rulers, including Chinese, do not recognize themselves equal to V.V. Putin, i.e. they seem to consider him an imposter. 2. Names VV Putin is a thief, a civilian from USA. If we draw a historical analogy with the year 1613 and compare it with the current situation, we get that NOW called "impostor and thief" V.V. Putin, as in 1613, after the Romanov dynasty came to power, was called the "impostor and thief" Grishka Otrepyev. The following is important:NOT IN RUSSIA determine the ruler of our country, and in the USA, with which the rulers of other countries "sang" !!! It seems like a turmoil, STARTED in 1991, DO NOT FINISH in 2013 !!!
  28. Novoyur
    Novoyur 17 August 2013 13: 14 New
    +1
    Go to any office of officials at the federal or regional level, on a computer monitor Google search engine. all the operations that he does, everything goes through American servers.
    1. shinobi
      shinobi 17 August 2013 15: 13 New
      +3
      And what? Their officials, too. Hacking their NSA server is not more complicated than the Pentagon’s, which our homegrown hackers did just out of boredom.
  29. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 17 August 2013 14: 55 New
    +2
    the author is right. we need our own communication system. GLONASS is made not because it is super better than the American GPS, but because it is ours and cannot harm us.
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  31. darksoul
    darksoul 17 August 2013 16: 07 New
    +2
    Everything is so, however, cisco is by no means at all sites, competition from China, you understand, has long been cramped, but in most government agencies, yes, cisco stands ... the standard ... I have not heard about Russia M .... maybe we should pay more attention on their developments ... including a lot of equipment and software for access control of video surveillance, fire alarm systems (trsassir, macroscop, itv, bolid, gate, stilsoft, etc.) is made by a domestic manufacturer and stands on the vast majority of facilities True, the assembly is delivered to China, but all of our brains and I’ll say very good and worthy systems are produced by us ... we need to look more at our own ... we are not too fast-witted ... this is the country's prestige and security .... what can I say if from the internal subnet I can manage anything: a mini-automatic telephone exchange, a subsystem of video surveillance cells, access control. and burglar alarms .... that is, full control of the building’s engineering structures .. so, in my opinion, foreign developers cannot be allowed or changes to the program code in the form of firmware ... in a word, there is something to think about .... developers and we have enough worthy equipment .. the state does not have enough to change something
    1. Tretyakov
      Tretyakov 17 August 2013 18: 00 New
      +1
      Well, add to all this sensible operation engineers !!! And then all around only lawyers and economists. When talking with a HARRIS engineer, the following became clear - the communication in Iraq was not extinguished from satellites or using high technology - everything is simple! - There are service phone numbers and passwords that none of the service engineers have changed! Result - an engineer from the USA enters the PBX service number and gives the command to shut down! That's all!
  32. darksoul
    darksoul 17 August 2013 19: 22 New
    +1
    yes there is such a DISA theme called access to the internal functions of a PBX .... usually not protected even on standard office PBXs
  33. spirit
    spirit 17 August 2013 21: 48 New
    +1
    And how do they read the presidents mail? laughing
    But seriously. was in the data warehouse of Gazprom, and so there on the whole building 2 computers behind the meter door, which is guarded by 2 Automatics. AND NO INTERNET lol
    1. shinobi
      shinobi 18 August 2013 14: 31 New
      0
      And the software there is not Microsoft worth it for sure.
  34. michajlo
    michajlo 17 August 2013 23: 15 New
    0
    Quote: optimist
    Quote: nokki
    The question again and again rests on one thing - a sharp-willed political decision. As in the case with Serdyukov, everything is clear to everyone, we know how to act, but ... We can only wait and wonder how it will turn out. And this uncertainty is most of all destroying Russia from the inside. But - this is my opinion ...

    That's the whole problem. Under the tales of "honest and naive tsar "(like the gdp damn ministers do not report), Russia is getting deeper and deeper into a deep ... opa. Most people do not understand that GDP is such a "cardboard dope", like humpbacked with fuck. I understand the sincere desire of some “peppercorns” to hope for the best, but we must take a sober look at things: brazenly Saxons only in the 20th century raped us specifically 5 times (in 1904, 14th, 17th, 41st and 91st). It is clear that it is not worth looking for a rope and soap, but hat-making is inappropriate.

    You are absolutely right dear "optimist"! There is nothing to add. good
  35. michajlo
    michajlo 17 August 2013 23: 37 New
    0
    Quote: vlasov70
    There is no actual material for your link. Take the trouble to back up your allegations with real facts. .................

    Good evening, dear "vlasov70"! And I have a working link, perhaps the fact is that it was looking at 21:33 now and you tried at 19:42. good
    PS
    Here sometimes the SysAdmins remind of the polite treatment on the VO site. You used the turnover (quoted above), is it so-called "folk art", or what? sad
  36. 55uaka
    55uaka 18 August 2013 04: 50 New
    -1
    The other day, I accidentally stumbled upon a site for checking fines in the traffic police, and by the way there you can dispute and pay online. For example, for 2 days I challenged 3 fines for a total of about 17 rubles. try it yourself, here is the link to the service - polis.2sms.ru
  37. uhu189
    uhu189 19 August 2013 11: 50 New
    0
    Of course, I may not be the most knowledgeable person in the IT field, but somehow I don’t quite understand how miraculously any information from the Russian Federation can flock to a spy server in the American embassy. Nobody built them like reinforced fiber-optic lines, but I don’t understand a little how otherwise a monstrous amount of information can be sent to this server. Or is there a couple of geostationary satellites in orbit that collect information from each router and forward it to the embassy and then broadcast it back? It sounds somehow crazy ... And the second question to the author of the article is - who in the USA can analyze the information received ?, who is able to analyze all this and get useful information from this? Even if there are software algorithms - how adequately can they handle it all, and then, after processing, who can use 200 Russian officials for a week to make any meaningful conclusion from the processed data on personal correspondence? If all this is summed up, it is rather a very expensive and redundant system of targeted monitoring of specific people, but not like not the entire amount of Internet data ...