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Grenade launcher "soldier of the future" adopted

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The most perfect sample of personal weapons an infantryman, an 25-mm XM25 grenade launcher, will launch into the series. The use of these weapons in Afghanistan was so successful that the American army plans to begin mass purchases.



A Pentagon spokesman said that in the near future the XM25 grenade launcher would drop the letter “X”, which means that the product is experimental. In other words, the XM25 will go into the series, albeit initially in small batches - the first series will consist of 1100 grenade launchers and their ammunition. Currently, the US Army is working to introduce some improvements regarding the fire control system, battery life, weight and grenade size. Upon completion of this work, the US Army will receive weapons ready for widespread combat use.

The XM25 grenade launcher is a 5,5-kg semi-automatic four-shot grenade launcher equipped with a “smart” sight with a built-in thermal imager, ballistic computer and rangefinder. The sight allows you to detect the enemy at any time of the day and in any weather, determine the range to the target and program a 25 mm grenade to detonate in a specific place near the enemy, for example, above a trench, a hatch tank, in a window opening, etc. This allows you to reliably hit the target behind shelters that protect against conventional small arms fire. Based on several hundred episodes of the use of the XM25 in Afghanistan, the military concluded that the new weapon is much more effective than most portable support weapons. A shot from the XM25 usually stops the Taliban attack, and the grenade launcher provides high accuracy at a distance of up to 500 m, that is, further than the Kalashnikov assault rifle.

Grenade launcher "soldier of the future" adopted


Guidance is as follows: the soldier first finds the target with the help of a perfect 4-multiple thermal imaging sighting system integrated into the weapon, then the laser range finder is turned on and information about the distance to the target appears in the eyepiece of the sight. The soldier needs to choose a point near the enemy's position: from the side, from above, from behind and press the trigger - the grenade will explode behind, above, below or on the side of the shelter. With the explosion of a grenade strikes a living force in a radius of 6 meters.

In one episode of XM25, a foot patrol member, Sergeant Carlos Smith, discovered the ambush with an XM25 sight. Usually, the Taliban hide behind rocks, hills, ruins, and other shelters that protect them from bullets. But in this case, the fighter was XM25, and the 25-mm grenade exploded directly above the enemy's machine gunner. As a result, the ambush was broken - the enemy fled, taking with him the wounded. In general, the use of "smart" grenade reduced the battle with conventional 15-20 minutes to 5-7. Thanks to XM25, the soldiers didn’t have to reach the enemy from the flanks - the XM25 grenades simply smoked the enemy out of the shelter, showering him with shrapnel. For its high fighting qualities, XM25 received the nickname Punisher ("Punisher"). Interestingly, most soldiers dream of getting such a weapon, despite the fact that sometimes, in addition to the already difficult XM25, you have to carry an automatic weapon. But on foot patrol, a soldier usually has only XM25 and a pistol - the fighters are confident that with the new weapons of the enemy it will be possible to destroy from a safe distance.



The wide distribution of the XM25, albeit in the ranks of the same army, is of great importance for the entire military science. For centuries, soldiers have honed their skills in using cover to protect against direct small arms fire. Now there is a weapon from which you cannot hide even behind a two-meter concrete wall. Until now, high-precision ammunition with programmable fuses has been the forefront of heavy artillery and aviation calibers, but with the advent of the XM25, individual infantrymen received similar highly effective weapons.



The first thousand XM25 is likely to go to the US Army already in 2014, and most of 2015 will be spent on large-scale tests of the new weapons, including in combat conditions. XM25 will be transferred to all combat brigades, as well as to units of special operations forces. The cost of one XM25 grenade will amount to $ 35 thousand, and one grenade with a programmable fuse will cost about $ 55.
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  1. alma
    alma 16 August 2013 07: 37 New
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    Greetings to all.
    I give an introduction: urgently to slam and study ...
    1. Edward72
      Edward72 16 August 2013 07: 57 New
      +1
      Well, if on the contrary, the run-in took place in Afghanistan, then maybe already in one of the research institutes they already dismantled the cogs. Yes, I hope Aveli does not sleep.
    2. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 16 August 2013 08: 01 New
      0
      Quote: alma
      urgently slam and study ..

      What for? He has not yet completed the full tests, how many jambs will be typed! We have wonderful designers who can make the cube a better granotometr!
      1. Joker
        16 August 2013 10: 33 New
        +3
        he has not yet completed the full test

        He has been in Afghanistan for a year now, 3 for sure, I think all the main shoals have already been finalized.
      2. Astrey
        Astrey 16 August 2013 11: 15 New
        0
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        slam and explore ..


        Reengineering will be more expensive than its own development and the result is unlikely that it is close in terms of everything - execution, use, direction to the hands of special forces and not bandits ...
    3. Nayhas
      Nayhas 16 August 2013 08: 03 New
      +7
      Quote: alma
      I give an introduction: urgently to slam and study ...

      So this is not a shovel, even after receiving a full set of documentation, it is necessary for the industry to be able to repeat ...
    4. eplewke
      eplewke 16 August 2013 08: 22 New
      -1
      AGS - 30 on it !!! Here is the best grenade launcher! But for the development, let’s say so amers can put a plus. The right weapon to say so.
      1. Hedgehog
        Hedgehog 16 August 2013 08: 52 New
        16
        Yes? You AGS-30 will also carry in your hands and shoot from the hands? And the AGS will be able to detonate a grenade right above the enemy’s head? AGS - easel grenade launcher.
    5. the polar
      the polar 16 August 2013 10: 05 New
      -5
      Quote: alma
      Greetings to all.
      I give an introduction: urgently to slam and study ...

      Who needs it, such a caliber and for such a price, and how is it better than a standard grenade launcher, without “intelligence”, but in the hands of an experienced fighter.
      1. Joker
        16 August 2013 10: 38 New
        10
        Who needs it, such a caliber and for such a price, and how is it better than a standard grenade launcher, without “intelligence”, but in the hands of an experienced fighter.

        Let's argue, after a little preparation with HM25, any fighter can effectively shoot and hit shelters with one or two shots, and now let's think about how many ordinary grenades you need to get into the trench? And if you need to shoot for 2-meter shelter? It is necessary to shoot from an even greater height, so that the grenade would fly there, but with hm25 it is not necessary; The caliber is too small, but the grenades there are not standard, under it already 6 different grenades were washed down, for all occasions. For the price of course expensive, BUT, where did you see the analogue cheaper? It simply does not exist, it is the first and only such grenade launcher, if the Americans succeed in combining it effectively with a machine gun, it will be something.
      2. Ivan_Ivanov
        Ivan_Ivanov 16 August 2013 11: 31 New
        +2
        and why is it better than a standard grenade launcher

        More beautiful laughing laughing
    6. Aryan
      Aryan 16 August 2013 11: 09 New
      0
      I just didn’t understand how he e-mailed
      this mega-grenade farts
      potential enemy
      at what speed in megabytes? soldier
    7. Rebus
      Rebus 16 August 2013 12: 05 New
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      Quote: alma
      I give an introduction: urgently to slam and study ...

      Why copy garbage, we need to create similar ammunition and that’s it ...
      KS-23K, comparable caliber (http://gunh.ru/ks23k.htm):
    8. koosss
      koosss 16 August 2013 16: 33 New
      0
      the main thing is not to give the Chinese in their hands!
  2. NOMADE
    NOMADE 16 August 2013 08: 04 New
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    Great stuff, albeit expensive. But the lives of soldiers are more expensive. We need something similar, at least in special forces and advanced units. In a Chechen company, it would be great ...
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 16 August 2013 08: 49 New
      13
      he would have appeared before the Chechens
  3. valokordin
    valokordin 16 August 2013 08: 06 New
    -6
    What about us? The idea is very good, maybe the Amers have slammed it with us?
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 16 August 2013 08: 31 New
      -1
      It may very well be. Such a gadget is simply obliged to be in our troops.
    2. Scoun
      Scoun 16 August 2013 10: 22 New
      +7
      Quote: valokordin
      The idea is very good, maybe Amera we have slammed it

      Unfortunately no. (the only programmer could be from the Russian Federation)
      Not like that in the ancient game Soldier of Fortun (Soldier of Fortune) they had ....
      I remember playing when as in the described case ... you draw a point .. shoot ..... brought to life .. that's how the "fiction" game becomes a reality.
      The soldier needs to select a point near the enemy’s position: from the side, from above, from behind and press the trigger - the grenade will explode behind, above, under or to the side of the shelter.
  4. gal
    gal 16 August 2013 08: 46 New
    +3
    So far, only like that - GM-94
  5. Dangerous
    Dangerous 16 August 2013 08: 48 New
    11
    All the same, I am surprised at how often the latest military developments appear in America. And not just the "modernized" old ones, but fundamentally new ones. It’s envious, what else to say ... Take at least the same fleet - while our Sarychi who are afloat are being repaired and modernized, the amers will launch the newest Zumwaltes ...
    1. Hedgehog
      Hedgehog 16 August 2013 08: 51 New
      +4
      It always has been that 50 years ago, now.
    2. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 16 August 2013 09: 33 New
      +6
      and who is sitting in Rosnano? a member of some club there
    3. Ivan_Ivanov
      Ivan_Ivanov 16 August 2013 11: 26 New
      0
      "Still wondering"

      ---------------------------
      And what's so surprising ??? Amer every year spends more just not earned, credit money than Russia TOTAL.
      America alone occupied in 2012 more than 32 (trillion rubles (in terms of)). While the entire budget of Russia amounted to 000 trillion. rubles. America spent ONLY not earned, borrowed money more than 000 times more than Russia in general.

      What's so surprising for you ???
  6. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 16 August 2013 08: 50 New
    +1
    we have such tank shells
    1. Edward72
      Edward72 16 August 2013 09: 04 New
      +4
      Quote: soldier's grandson
      we have such tank shells


      Shells, that is, but a shot from a grenade launcher costs 55 green candy wrappers, and how much a tank shot costs and fuel and lubricants how much an iron beast will eat.
    2. ale-x
      ale-x 16 August 2013 09: 15 New
      +1
      labeled OSh, it seems?
  7. Wedmak
    Wedmak 16 August 2013 09: 05 New
    +2
    Well, why is this grenade launcher better than our hand-held flamethrowers? The Lynx and Bumblebee jet flamethrowers, the new PDM-A (Bumblebee-M) - the maximum firing range is 1700 m, sighting - up to 800 m. I think there is no need to explain the difference between the buckshot, from which you can still hide behind a steel sheet and thermobaric explosion, after which it is still necessary to find what remains of the enemy.
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 16 August 2013 09: 30 New
      10
      Well, if so, then you can also drag Javelin here - also portable, and also destroy tanks 100%. XM25 and Bumblebee - weapons of different weight categories. In addition, the XM25 is almost no different from conventional small arms in terms of ease of use, not to mention the most sophisticated optical sighting properties.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 16 August 2013 10: 06 New
        -6
        Well, if so, then you can also drag Javelin here - also portable, and also destroy 100% tanks

        Come on? Javelin cumulative ammunition, how will you destroy the infantry with them? Heavy, big, and the price of this complex is very high.
        In addition, the ХМ25 is almost no different from conventional small arms in terms of ease of use, not to mention the most sophisticated optical sighting properties.

        With the convenience of almost agree.
    2. Dmitry 2246
      Dmitry 2246 16 August 2013 09: 49 New
      +6
      "a soldier first finds a target with perfect 4x thermal imaging sighting system integrated into the weapon, then the laser range finder is turned on and information about the distance to the target appears in the eyepiece of the sight. "
      With World War II problems with optics and aiming devices. And so the caliber is really small.
      I always, if possible, used RPO - a wonderful thing.
    3. Scoun
      Scoun 16 August 2013 11: 23 New
      +5
      Quote: Wedmak
      Well, why is this grenade launcher better than our hand-held flamethrowers?

      Don't you think that you are comparing completely different things?
      grenade launcher = flamethrower? and the conversation is about a grenade launcher which compare grenade launcher rather than RPG-7 or something similar ...
      Read again ..
      Until now, precision-guided munitions with programmable fuses have been at the forefront of heavy artillery and aviation calibres.but with the advent of the XM25, individual infantrymen received similar high-performance weapons.

      hi
      it turns out Carlos discovered them thanks to a thermal imager and shmalnul before the Taliban opened fire ..
      In one episode of the XM25 application, a member of the walking patrol sergeant Carlos Smith Detects Ambush With XM25 Sight. Usually the Taliban hide behind stones, hills, ruins and other shelters, which protect against bullets. But in this case, the fighter had an XM25, and 25 mm grenade exploded right above the enemy machine gunner. As a result, the ambush was foiled

      and the cost of the grenade itself ..
      The cost of one XM25 grenade launcher will be $ 35 thousand, and one grenade with a programmable fuse will cost about $ 55.

      I hope you just did not take into account the cost of one charge of the flamethrower with the cost of this grenade. The "Bumblebee" is certainly cool .. but they are just different and the "Bumblebee" is one-time.
      Personally, I would not mind seeing a similar weapon in our troops. not even averse to kicking with all hands.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 16 August 2013 12: 17 New
        0
        grenade launcher = flamethrower? and the conversation is about a grenade launcher which compare grenade launcher rather than RPG-7 or something similar ...

        Well no. I did not compare them by name, but by action. After all, what is the difference than shooting with shrapnel or thermobaric ammunition (with equal impact)? Unless the second has a higher explosive effect with the same dimensions.
        In my opinion, this ХМ25 is a very limited weapon.
        In one episode of the XM25 application, a member of the walking patrol sergeant Carlos Smith spotted an ambush with an XM25 scope.

        Successfully he discovered them. Very successful. Americans are masters of promoting successful episodes of using their weapons and hushing up unsuccessful ones.
        But in this case, the fighter had XM25, and the 25-mm grenade exploded right above the enemy's machine gunner.

        Question: Which grenade exploded over a Taliban machine gunner? Something I doubt that the first.
        In the case of the use of the Bumblebee, the whole ambush would have left a wet place.
        and one grenade with a programmable fuse will cost about $ 55.

        Something is hard to believe.
        but they’re just different and the Bumblebee is disposable.

        You can’t take too many grenades to this crossbow.
        Again ... aims and program the detonation, it takes time, even 5-10 seconds, but still.
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      2. Ka-52
        Ka-52 16 August 2013 18: 47 New
        +2
        Personally, I would not mind seeing a similar weapon in our troops. not even averse to kicking with all hands.


        Support!

        К The Witcher

        After all, what is the difference than shooting with shrapnel or thermobaric ammunition (with equal impact)? Unless the second has a higher explosive effect with the same dimensions.
        In my opinion, this ХМ25 is a very limited weapon.


        I will provide excerpts from an article by Sergey Evtekhov from the site
        http://rudocs.exdat.com/docs/index-83120.html
        There he writes about RPGs, but since the principle of using RPOs, like RPGs, is the same, and the sights are the same, everything is obvious.

        RPGs have insufficient accuracy and excessive power to solve problems during anti-terrorist operations. By the way, the high cost of training personnel in shooting from RPGs and frequent misses are also due to the lack of VOCs and other imitators. The weight of the RPGs or RPGs themselves, their rate of fire, wearable BC do not allow the full use of the capabilities of weapons in a fleeting street battle. The simplest, most reliable and cheapest way to destroy this enemy will be the use of AGS-17 (30). But, unfortunately, the AGS is not a hand weapon, and not every department has it. And preparing and putting together a calculation for instant deployment of a weapon requires a lot of time.

        Successfully he discovered them. Very successful. Americans are masters of promoting successful episodes of using their weapons and hushing up unsuccessful ones.


        It should be noted that we do not have such sights at all!

        Question: Which grenade exploded over a Taliban machine gunner? Something I doubt that the first.
        In the case of the use of the Bumblebee, the whole ambush would have left a wet place.


        This question is for logic :). What is more convenient to shoot ?! From Bow or Crossbow? wink

        Something is hard to believe.


        Even if it’s 100 bucks, it’s still 10 times less than RPO.
        1. Ka-52
          Ka-52 16 August 2013 18: 49 New
          +1
          You can’t take too many grenades to this crossbow.
          Again ... aims and program the detonation, it takes time, even 5-10 seconds, but still.


          The article also says 4 grenades per clip. + 1 reserve at a minimum. Total 8 shots. And all this 1 fighter carries. How many bumblebees will one fighter take away without losing combat capability ?!

          And finally, again from the article:

          From the foregoing, the following conclusions can be drawn:
          1. The troops are in urgent need of the urgent creation of a multi-charged hand grenade launcher for a VOG-17M (30) shot with an increased barrel length for greater trajectory and accuracy. The effectiveness, power and reliability of the firing of the VOG-17 (30) for solving most typical fire missions during anti-terrorist operations are quite sufficient. And if, in addition to GP-25 (30), in the department there were a pair of hand-held multi-charged grenade launchers, then many tactical problems could be solved. Yes, and enemy fire damage from long ranges is beneficial to us, since we will substitute people under enemy fire less. Moreover, there are already real samples under VOG-17M, for example, V.N. TKB-0249 "Crossbow" Telesha. In extreme cases, the following anti-sabotage weapon can be borrowed from the Navy (with the corresponding refinement of ammunition): a double-barreled grenade launcher DP-64 "Nepryadva" (caliber - 45 mm, weight - 10 kg, range - up to 400 m, was put into service in 1990). );
  8. erased
    erased 16 August 2013 09: 05 New
    +3
    Interesting weapon. We should take a closer look at it. We still have only GM-94, but without an aiming system, and the ammunition does not have an undermining control. The weight is comparable, but the caliber is larger. In a word, someone else's combat experience should be studied.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 16 August 2013 11: 46 New
      0
      The weight is comparable, but the caliber is larger. In a word, someone else's combat experience should be studied.

      Especially American: their tactics of infantry and especially light infantry have never been neglected.
  9. user
    user 16 August 2013 09: 11 New
    +6
    The most interesting in this development:

    equipped with a “smart” sight with built-in thermal imager, ballistic computer and range finder

    That's where we lag behind specifically and much.
    If every fighter. . .
  10. WAN
    WAN 16 August 2013 09: 13 New
    +2
    And if you drag him through the mud, in a downpour, in a frying pan, and in the cold, under the snow, throw, beat and still twist him in every possible way? Will he shoot? A grenade will explode where necessary? And not over the head of a fighter? Question.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 16 August 2013 11: 50 New
      +1
      And if you drag him through the mud, in a downpour, in a frying pan, and in the cold, under the snow, throw, beat and still twist him in every possible way?

      We got such comments. You tell this to our Special Forces, where people sometimes bought for their TPV or PNV.
      Technique in the hands of a savage - a piece of iron.
      With your approach, the need to make fire, to preserve optics is a disadvantage, but
      Welcome to the 21st century laughing
      1. Alrid
        Alrid 16 August 2013 17: 01 New
        +1
        And here is the 21st century? The main thing is reliability, so that at the most crucial moment the “smart” sight does not fail.
  11. xxxMYSTICxxx
    xxxMYSTICxxx 16 August 2013 09: 16 New
    +7
    The thing is really useful, although a lot of articles on the Internet go for a walk about the low power of a grenade for these toys, but in my opinion it’s possible to put a grenade in a window at a distance of 500 meters with a radius of destruction of manpower of 6 meters ... definitely a very useful toy, our infantry units would certainly not hurt, at least a couple of platoon.
    1. p-159
      p-159 16 August 2013 10: 06 New
      +1
      gp also has a claimed defeat of 10 meters, but in fact a confident defeat of 5
    2. cdrt
      cdrt 16 August 2013 11: 54 New
      0
      but in my opinion the ability to lay a grenade in a window at a distance of 500 meters with a radius of destruction of manpower of 6 meters

      1. It seems like exactly the Americans SG and grenade launchers were the first to create and have very good experience in their application
      2. yes, 25mm is less than 40mm, but an infantryman without equipment can carry away more shots
      3. They have a similar sighting system (TV / TPV + LD + ballistic computer + electronic fuse installer) was created for the 40mm easel, for quite some time. To each his own niche - this (25mm) for infantry in a hurry. Our analogue is probably GP-94, but there is neither TPV, nor a normal sight, nor a remote detonation. Actually in the states, something like that has been since the 1950s in my opinion.
  12. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 16 August 2013 09: 29 New
    +2
    The Yankees tried to adopt this idea about 10 years ago. Then it was a rifle complex consisting of an assault rifle (aiming range of 300 m) and an under-barrel with a programmable grenade. The complex then cost $ 11. They didn’t take it into service at the time, since there is a weak spot — programmers and radio electronics engineers can get into the guidance equipment and undermine it. We have such specialists. wink
    In short, it is applicable against wild Indians. You cannot defeat us with these grenades in World War III, there are countermeasures. We need our own counterpart against our Native American terrorists, for special forces and local wars. soldier
    1. alone
      alone 16 August 2013 09: 41 New
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      Quote: Sergey Medvedev
      You cannot defeat us with these grenades in World War III, there are countermeasures.


      in the third world, these grenades are not what. Do you think the 3rd world will be like the second? they would rather use nuclear weapons and that’s all. and those who survive will fight with batons
    2. heruv1me
      heruv1me 16 August 2013 09: 55 New
      +8
      "programmers and radio electronics will be able to climb into the guidance equipment and undermine", for nonsense.
      1. Joker
        16 August 2013 10: 43 New
        +1
        "programmers and radio electronics will be able to climb into the guidance equipment and undermine", for nonsense.

        + then they can also control tanks and cars laughing
    3. cdrt
      cdrt 16 August 2013 12: 04 New
      +2
      In short, it is applicable against wild Indians. You cannot defeat us with these grenades in World War III, there are countermeasures.

      Of course, all of their weapons from aircraft carriers to grenade launchers are against the Papuans.
      The parables of the "white masters" of Russians are not suitable laughing - because we have a "magic wand"
      About programmers and radio electronics - hmm ... to school and institute immediately.
      To study physics. Start with the mechanics section, continue until electricity.
      Electrodynamics, quantum physics do not need to be taught - fragile children's mosk will be destroyed laughing

      I got nonsense of such comments.
      Weapons are actually much more effective than analogues. The dismounted infantry was given a very good and accurate means of defeating group targets.

      Well, and the story - indeed, about 10 years ago they made a complex of infantry weapons:
      1. A rifle with a similar grenade launcher
      2. KKP / AGS caliber - 12,7 / 25mm

      They didn’t manage the infantry complex, it was too expensive and hard. To begin with, we made a separate grenade launcher, leaving the rifles the same (everything seems normal there)
      KKP made separately - I think it weighs 17-18 kg on the machine. AGS - it seems they also made it separate
  13. NOMADE
    NOMADE 16 August 2013 09: 52 New
    +3
    Quote: Sergey Medvedev
    The Yankees tried to adopt this idea about 10 years ago. Then it was a rifle complex consisting of an assault rifle (aiming range of 300 m) and an under-barrel with a programmable grenade. The complex then cost $ 11. They didn’t take it into service at the time, since there is a weak spot — programmers and radio electronics engineers can get into the guidance equipment and undermine it. We have such specialists. wink
    In short, it is applicable against wild Indians. You cannot defeat us with these grenades in World War III, there are countermeasures. We need our own counterpart against our Native American terrorists, for special forces and local wars. soldier


    No, it won’t work out with this instance. The main reason is a shell with a programmable blasting time interval. That is, the fighter pointed, the laser rangefinder - transmitted the data about the distance. a ballistic calculator on the basis of data (climatic conditions, range, estimated ballistic of a grenade) and voila - a shot and in the right place - an explosion.
    So what about the "specialists" and hackers - in this case - tales wink
  14. heruv1me
    heruv1me 16 August 2013 09: 55 New
    +7
    Friends, what would we build such a thing, with the current pace of development of domestic radio electronics, it will take us about 15 years. I’m telling you this as a specialist. Or you can now, but one fighter will not be able to drag such a domestic grenade launcher.
    1. AlexAl
      AlexAl 16 August 2013 11: 09 New
      +1
      If as a specialist, then yes - 15 years, more likely that never. And if as a developer, then for 5 you can. The main will of certain persons responsible for financing and complete isolation from persons interested in cutting the allocated funding.
      On the basis of domestic microelectronics, this will be a kind of cabinet, on the basis of foreign components, you can keep within the same overall dimensions as the XM25.
      We are developing thermal imaging sights, and sticking a ballistic computer into the software for the thermal imager is not a lot of problems. Another thing is that the matrices for thermal imagers are weak.
      Naturally, this is not so simple as described above, but there are no insurmountable, fundamental problems here.

      About any weather conditions when using XM25 - I do not believe. Take the fog and shrubs, and you will not see anything in the thermal imager. And driving through the desert, yes, it’s convenient.

      The biggest problem we will have in the battery life of this device at the time of hostilities - sometimes the bug is brought up with great delays, and then the battery. (Battery is a joke, and in every joke there is a joke share).
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 16 August 2013 12: 08 New
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        The biggest problem we will have in the battery life of this device at the time of hostilities - sometimes the bug is brought up with great delays, and then the battery. (Battery is a joke, and in every joke there is a joke share).

        About batteries - see Generation Kill.
        About the state marines in the Iraq war 2003.
        There, batteries for the NVD - they had the most valuable currency, more valuable than drinks, food and water, they ordered by mail themselves, bought where they could.
        What to do - if you want to fight at night - carry a battery with you
  15. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 16 August 2013 09: 57 New
    -1
    This plasmogan certainly looks good, but how great is its reliability in conditions such as freezing temperatures, dustiness, maintainability on the knee, and so on, it seems to me that it will be several times less than ags30, and the bullets will probably not be worth a ruble.
    1. p-159
      p-159 16 August 2013 10: 09 New
      +1
      the enemy is fighting in comfort, for which he has such stupid and unpleasant thoughts
    2. Dangerous
      Dangerous 16 August 2013 10: 09 New
      +6
      I do not think that before launching into mass production, these weapons did not pass a set of tests in an aggressive environment. Not only do we have assault rifles and rifles in the dust chamber and refrigerator
  16. Kowalsky
    Kowalsky 16 August 2013 10: 06 New
    +8
    The soldiers, of course, overestimate him. Going on patrols with a gun, relying on a 4-charge grenade launcher is too much. Although in general the weapon is probably excellent, and when it becomes mass, it will become cheaper, it may well make the superiority of the Amer infantry on the battlefield total.
    Well, nothing, you will soon come up with an analogue in Skolkovo. It would be funny if it were not sad.
  17. olegff68
    olegff68 16 August 2013 10: 33 New
    +2
    Copy the grenade launcher itself is not a problem, the chip in the sighting system and in the ammunition. Amers have been developing it for quite some time now and it was necessary to think about analogues for a long time too.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 16 August 2013 12: 10 New
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      On the other hand laughing
      The Italians seem to have made the same sighting system (without grenades with dist. Detonation), it’s like the "cursed" Serdyukov and tried to negotiate with these things
  18. Mails
    Mails 16 August 2013 10: 35 New
    +3
    Sniper border. Great thing)
  19. Sobol
    Sobol 16 August 2013 10: 40 New
    +5
    Yeah! Chubais will come up with another “nano-tank” - no one sees him, but he IS! Only ginger money and strew. Here he will master them, so master. We’ll remain without a grenade launcher and without money!
  20. IRBIS
    IRBIS 16 August 2013 10: 56 New
    +4
    Great weapon! For its class - lightweight and with amazing combat characteristics. And we don’t have to deal with “malice” in his attitude, we have nothing of the kind at all. The small caliber is more than compensated by the "brains" of the weapon.
    And to teach a "competent" fighter to shoot from a simple GP and at the same time to get there - you need to try.
  21. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 16 August 2013 11: 14 New
    -3
    It is necessary to make a grenade with EMP on our AGS and grenade launchers. So that in a radius of 100-200 m from the place of detonation of the ammunition, all the electronic fuck is burned. And there we’ll see what their 4-charger + gun will cost against our machine with zinc ammunition in stock. And everything else wearable electronic equipment.
    Or will they run across the field in a grounded Faraday cage?
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 16 August 2013 13: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: abrakadabre
      what will their 4-charger + gun cost against our machine with zinc ammunition in stock

      Well, suppose the power supply for this grenade launcher is not limited to four grenades. Our grenade launchers also, by state, have an APS.
      By the way, carrying zinc cartridges to the machine is very troublesome, the navel can get loose.
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 16 August 2013 14: 27 New
      +1
      Or will they run across the field in a grounded Faraday cage?

      Electronics are easily shielded. The same Faraday cage integrated into the body. The question is interference power.
  22. Boot under the carpet
    Boot under the carpet 16 August 2013 11: 41 New
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    The toy is impressive! The Marines will certainly be strengthened by him.
  23. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 16 August 2013 12: 39 New
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    Malicious contraption! Now you can not dig trenches? Time to start producing an individual armored capsule to protect the fighter.
  24. Alrid
    Alrid 16 August 2013 17: 18 New
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    "the grenade exploded right above the enemy machine gunner. As a result, the ambush was broken - the enemy fled, taking the wounded with him."

    Maybe I don’t understand something, but if a grenade explodes over you, is it possible to escape after this? Something is not clear power grenades.
  25. Michael_59
    Michael_59 16 August 2013 19: 42 New
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    All ingenious is simple.
    This device is a simple and effective thing (at the current level of technological development). And a vile thing, like a mine. It’s more difficult for a man to survive.
    I would not like to fight against such.
    What are the remedies against her? Interference setting ??? EMR grenades? Smoke, dust, fog?
  26. Cristall
    Cristall 17 August 2013 17: 35 New
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    So I was right, including this weapon in the arsenal of Americans in the game (more precisely mods) C&C Generals Reborn and C&C Generals Revolution. Awesome thing, first found out about it there many years ago. He took an interest, then there were tests, but we as if attributed it. And they were right - already in service.
  27. mib-alex
    mib-alex 18 August 2013 21: 07 New
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    CLASS PIECE WILL BE IN GOOD IN SKILLLY HANDS.