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Shoigu summed up the surprise checks of the army

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During a series of surprise inspections of the Central and Eastern military districts, more than 150 combined-arms and special exercises were conducted with various types and types of troops.


Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, along with his deputies and representatives of the troops on Thursday, summarize a series of surprise inspections of the Central and Eastern military districts.

“In general, the tasks have been accomplished,” noted Shoigu. At the same time, he announced a number of shortcomings.

According to the minister, once again problems with communication and control were detected at the tactical level. In the near future, the priority task of the Ministry of Defense will be to eliminate this drawback.

In addition, Shoigu noted the lack of individual combat training in the composition of combat crews and platoons, especially when firing from regular weapons. According to him, there were also equipment failures when making marches over long distances. Nevertheless, all the marches were completed successfully: the repair and technical divisions quickly eliminated all failures.

As another flaw, Shoigu noted the incomplete compliance with modern engineering requirements. One of the reasons, he said, is that the engineering units have recently been engaged in the disposal of obsolete and unusable ammunition.

There are also problems with the arrival of new equipment to the troops, Shoigu said. The Minister did not specify what technique he has in mind.

The chief of the General Staff, Valery Gerasimov, in his report noted that they require updating the equipment and equipment of mobile field stations. In particular, he attributed the reduced results that the personnel showed to insufficient preparation of the young recruits, who arrived at the troops shortly before the inspections.

Particular attention during the exercises was paid to the Pacific the fleet, said Gerasimov. It also revealed shortcomings in the preparation and functioning of rescue forces. Measures will be taken for their technical equipment, said the chief of the General Staff.

There are other drawbacks, he concluded. All of them will be summarized, a set of measures will be prepared for each of them, aimed at eliminating all the shortcomings.

During a series of surprise checks, more than 150 combined-arms and special exercises were conducted with various types and types of troops.

A series of sudden inspections of the Russian army began in the winter of this year - for the first time in the post-Soviet years. During this time, the command evaluated the combat readiness of the units of the Central and Southern military districts, airborne forces, military transport aviation and the Navy and, according to the chief of the General Staff of the Army General Valery Gerasimov, revealed a number of systemic shortcomings.
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  1. Airman
    Airman 15 August 2013 12: 31
    +7
    The shortcomings are revealed during the exercise, and therefore there are no limits for improving the army, especially with the arrival of new weapons.
  2. Alexey M
    Alexey M 15 August 2013 12: 34
    +5
    Well done, comrade Shoigu, now we need to draw the right conclusions and punish the guilty, preferably openly by the surname and with the deprivation of all ranks, posts and confiscation of unrighteous property. And we have ONE MILLIONED systemic flaw !!!!
    1. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 15 August 2013 20: 42
      0
      Quote: Alexey M
      Well done Comrade Shoigu

      You drew on the difference in tonality and semantic load of the speeches of the leadership of the Armed Forces from our past army leaders! In the troops, real measures were taken to improve combat skills ... and, accordingly, this is the result of the fact that they began to approach the development of "military affairs" in a "real way"!
      The direction of the forum’s commentary regarding what is happening in the army and navy has also changed radically.
      And it's nice!
  3. Apollo
    Apollo 15 August 2013 12: 39
    +6
    stock footage in the topic
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  5. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 15 August 2013 12: 41
    +5
    There are drawbacks, of course, but who has them?
    The main thing after an in-depth analysis is to focus on their effective solution, with the appointment of deadlines and responsible persons.
    At the next exercise on the results to draw conclusions and correction.
  6. Airman
    Airman 15 August 2013 12: 43
    15
    Communication is the most painful place in our aircraft. I have already written several times that the absence of a ZAS (secret communications equipment) in the battalion-company-platoon-crew link leads to unnecessary losses due to the enemy listening on open networks. So it was in the Afghan and Chechen wars. And you must be able to work on communications.
    1. torry
      torry 15 August 2013 17: 53
      0
      Why is she missing? A classmate was the communications chief of a battalion in the second Chechen one, the ZAS was in the form of additional attached blocks to radio stations, everything worked.
  7. svp67
    svp67 15 August 2013 12: 47
    +4
    During a series of surprise checks, more than 150 combined-arms and special exercises were conducted with various types and types of troops.
    Only one number already commands respect. The army should not resemble the "Spokiino Zhitya" collective farm. " "Study, study and once again study military science in a real way ..."
  8. taseka
    taseka 15 August 2013 12: 57
    0
    Bravo! You gradually give the bar of the USSR Army - And NATO and all the terrorists are rocking !!!!!!!!!!
  9. zart_arn
    zart_arn 15 August 2013 13: 07
    +2
    Shoigu summed up the surprise checks of the army


    And in the army only such checks should take place. The enemy, he will not publish schedules and plans! laughing
    1. vilenich
      vilenich 15 August 2013 14: 44
      0
      Quote: zart_arn
      And in the army only such checks should take place.

      The direction is taken right, now we would still draw the right conclusions and achieve the elimination of shortcomings.
      But one thing is not clear, why is the Minister of Defense dealing with this issue? He is a political person, and with all due respect to him, he is not a specialist in military affairs. To speak according to a text written by someone, it seems like he didn’t bother, but to understand the intricacies of the use of types and types of troops, the combat and mobilization readiness of troops (forces), like it would have been necessary before.
      So I would have traveled with these inspections of the NGS with the vidoviks, and he would have to deal with systemic issues, since he is well versed in this. Something like this ...
  10. NickitaDembelnulsa
    NickitaDembelnulsa 15 August 2013 13: 15
    +3
    There are not enough airfields on the Far East. This is the main disadvantage.
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 15 August 2013 13: 52
      +3
      Quote: NickitaDembelnulsa
      There are not enough airfields on the Far East. This is the main disadvantage.

      Conclusions have already been made and the situation has begun to rule.

      Starting January 1, 2014, military aircraft will be able to land at all civilian airfields of Russia without any payment for the use of the runway, Deputy Defense Minister of the Russian Federation, Army General Dmitry Bulgakov told reporters on Wednesday.

      RIA Novosti http://www.ria.ru/defense_safety/20130814/956361049.html#13765638313953&message=

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      The Ministry of Defense is considering expanding the capabilities of aerospace defense in eastern Russia, said Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, First Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Army General Valery Gerasimov in a report on summing up the results of a sudden readiness test of the troops of the Eastern and Central military districts with the leadership of the Ministry of Defense.
      "The expediency of the decision to reorganize the basing of aviation with the formation of aviation regiments at separate airfields was confirmed. In addition, the issue of expanding the capabilities of aerospace defense in the east of the country by building up the aviation group and airspace reconnaissance systems is being worked out "- said Gerasimov.

      RIA Novosti http://www.ria.ru/defense_safety/20130814/956318036.html#13765639857863&message=

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    2. vilenich
      vilenich 15 August 2013 14: 47
      +2
      Quote: NickitaDembelnulsa
      There are not enough airfields on the Far East. This is the main disadvantage.

      Airfields are a special case. The system as a whole does not work here. It is necessary to make decisions at the legislative level.
  11. PPL
    PPL 15 August 2013 13: 30
    +1
    Shoigu noted the lack of individual combat training, as part of combat crews and platoons, especially when firing from standard weapons.

    But recently, every Soviet schoolchild had the skill of owning firearms and basic military training.
    It only remains to say "many thanks" to those who destroyed and then plundered DOSAAF, and then ROSTO.
    1. Lomikus
      Lomikus 15 August 2013 18: 42
      -1
      Tell me, as a servant, what does a soldier do in the daytime?
      How is skill different from experience? In my opinion, in battle, the skill will help little against an experienced fighter.
      More than half of the time (> 60%) the soldier is engaged on the parade ground. Are we living in the XNUMXth century to march in formation against the enemy?
      My friend returned from the army, served under the Lower driver of Kamaz, so he sat behind the wheel 4 times in his entire service. So he told me that during the exercises for building 1 soldier, 8 Kamaz had kicked out! There was no one in the unit.
  12. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 15 August 2013 13: 31
    +6
    Well, finally, I saw the position of the highest military command regarding communications in tactical links. I hope that these are not just words, but the beginning of the creation of a real combat network at the level of each soldier-squad, etc.
    Everything else is clear. GOOD LUCK!
    1. Very old
      Very old 15 August 2013 14: 28
      +2
      Peaceful ANDREW. I noticed your "marks" on the site - always correct and efficient. Good to you. Why not add 50 points to the rating?
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 15 August 2013 17: 13
        0
        Thank you, dear Valentine! hi smile
    2. S-200
      S-200 15 August 2013 18: 16
      +1
      Quote: Peaceful military
      Well, finally, I saw the position of the highest military command regarding communications in tactical links.

      Obviously, you inattentively followed the comments of the top leadership of Russia and the Russian Defense Ministry after forcing Georgia to peace.
      When analyzing the hostilities (5 years ago), at all levels of the country's leadership and the army, poor communication was noted at the level of the tactical level ... Statements were made about the development "on their own", procurement ("at the initial stage ..." ) abroad "the best analogues ..."
      and WHAT? ... no more than - CHAT!
      " And nothing has changed !".... negative
  13. leon-iv
    leon-iv 15 August 2013 13: 50
    -3
    That's what "bloody serdyukov" tm brought that. The military became better at fulfilling their duties.
    1. konvalval
      konvalval 16 August 2013 00: 34
      0
      The military just began to perform their duties better after they kicked out your beloved Serdyukov.
  14. Stiletto
    Stiletto 15 August 2013 14: 13
    0
    Hard to learn - easy in battle! Keep it up, well done!
  15. KononAV
    KononAV 15 August 2013 14: 18
    0
    Where is the verdict?
  16. IRBIS
    IRBIS 15 August 2013 14: 36
    +1
    I will reveal a terrible secret: in the Kaliningrad region, troops are being prepared for the next "surprise" check.
  17. yan
    yan 15 August 2013 14: 40
    0
    There is an understanding that combat readiness is at the forefront, and the leadership's judgments about this process pleased me, not "about managerial" nonsense, but a clearly structured vision of the problem. Good luck with your combat training.
  18. Stalingrad
    Stalingrad 15 August 2013 15: 01
    +1
    Nevertheless, all marches were completed successfully: repair and technical units quickly eliminated all breakdowns.
    Fun! All repair departments were disbanded, some of the workshops were put into storage, some were written off. Most of the specialists were dismissed. Question: who repaired? "Slav"?
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 15 August 2013 15: 47
      0
      Quote: Stalingrad
      Question: Who repaired? "Slav"?

      Ltd! You should have seen the toilets in the Marine Brigade, "repaired" by the specialists of their "Slavyanka" - the village outhouses are nervously smoking!
      If this can be done with latrine, then I'm just afraid to imagine what they can do with the equipment ... Specialists-repairmen, their mother ...
  19. lelikas
    lelikas 15 August 2013 15: 22
    +2
    I was more surprised by Shilka in the columns, they continue to serve, while they are writing off the Tunguska.
  20. individual
    individual 15 August 2013 16: 21
    0
    The larger and larger the exercises, the more shortcomings are eliminated and the organizational and technical readiness of the troops increases.
    Keep it up!
  21. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 15 August 2013 18: 25
    0
    I think for the lower level there will be enough speech decoders of temporary stability and rst with a programmable frequency change, but from a battalion and higher it will be much more complicated than that, because it would be possible to go to departmental networks and lines and to cellular - if Rossvyaznadzor allowed to use the equipment only certain protocols. How in the UK MRI -....
  22. AleksUkr
    AleksUkr 15 August 2013 18: 51
    0
    The problem is the brainchild of Serdyukov - outsourcing!

    Colonel General Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, speaking at the General Meeting of the Academy of Military Sciences (AVN) of the Russian Federation on January 26, said that the Russian Armed Forces are ready for a large-scale war.
    "Nobody denies a large-scale war, and there can be no talk of unpreparedness for it," the head of the General Staff stressed. Speaking about outsourcing, Colonel-General Gerasimov noted that it is needed to relieve the soldiers from their unusual functions. "But outsourcing is needed only in peacetime and only in points of permanent deployment," he explained, adding that at all exercises and during the conduct of hostilities, these functions will be performed by troops. "

    %%%%%%%% Only he didn’t say, and when will they be prepared to carry out their duties? %%%%%%%

    AVN President, General of the Army Makhmut Gareev, believes that the outsourcing system in the RF Armed Forces needs to be radically revised. "In our opinion, the system of these outsourcing needs to be fundamentally revised: to issue laws providing, in the event of war, their transfer to martial law and full subordination to unit commanders," General Gareev said, adding that otherwise logistical and technical support would be disrupted ...

    http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1617729.html

    QUESTIONS MORE THAN ANSWERS ,,,,,, HOPE DIES THE LAST. BUT DAMNED FRIENDS ....
  23. erased
    erased 15 August 2013 19: 09
    0
    Well, let's see how and what will be done in 2-3 years. But will the enemy give us this time?
  24. yurii p
    yurii p 15 August 2013 19: 49
    0
    what a sudden check? you didn’t serve in the army, when I was in service, we knew about the check in a week, and now even more so. Examinations on the exam are published a week or earlier. In short, all these checks are filkin diplomas it hasn’t improved, if it hasn’t worsened. All these checks are a way to cover the eyes of the people with the president, and finally with the minister himself, maybe I’m mistaken. Information flowed from headquarters to telephone operators.
    1. svp67
      svp67 15 August 2013 19: 52
      0
      Quote: yurii p
      What a sudden check? You didn’t serve in the army, when I served, we knew about the check in a week, and now even more so. Examinations on the exam in a week or earlier are published

      I don’t know when and where you served, but during my service, especially in the GSVG, an SUDDEN alarm was normal. Who or what prevents the return of this sound tradition?