Weirdness with the presence of American meat on the Russian shelves

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While American partners are looking for ways to kick Moscow for the obvious intractability of Snowden, in Russia the ways of bringing the US to a white-hot, apparently, have long been found. One of these ways is the use of Russian sanitary services, which, at the moment of acute heat of Russian-American political relations, “unexpectedly” find some nasty things in American products entering the Russian market. At the same time, the main "search engine" of banned substances in the American "food", imported into Russia on a large scale, is an analogue of the Russian nuclear potential - Chief Sanitary Doctor Gennady Onishchenko. Already someone, and he can say for sure that a declaration of war to the United States is for him to spit and grind ... And yet he announced again with the Rosselkhoznadzor.



Not later than in the last decade of July, the Rosselkhoznadzor reported that the Russian side was ready to discuss with the American side the options for returning American meat (turkey, beef and pork) to the market of the Russian Federation. A spokesman for the Rosselkhoznadzor, Mr. Alekseenko, noted that the path for American meat would open to Russia only when the American side would provide documents guaranteeing product safety and the absence of additives in it that are prohibited in our country.
Negotiations with the United States continued on this issue for several months, and Alfred Almanza, a representative of the Pacific Ocean Ministry of Agriculture, in a telephone conversation with the head of the Rosselkhoznadzor, Sergey Dankvert, said that the United States was ready to “think over” Russia's proposals.

An interesting person is Almanza ... It turns out that before our Rosselkhoznadzor, under the vigilant control of the chief sanitary doctor, blocked access to the Russian market for American meat suppliers, the American side didn’t bother to provide documents confirming the quality of products. And we have this meat in various forms, forgive me, hawali, without even remembering that it can contain some kind of steroid ractopamine or other rubbish.

True, questions here can be addressed not only to representatives of the American Ministry of Agriculture (after all, if only they could sell more and more expensively), but also to our supervisory authorities. It turns out that if the “Magnitsky law” had not been adopted in the United States at the time and other acts of “democratic friendship” against the Russian Federation had not been demonstrated, then we would continue to eat for lunch semi-finished products of “meat”, which God knows Satisfied the star-striped maker. Yes, and the more saturated these semi-finished products we eat now is also a question! On the one hand, you seem to realize that Gennady Onishchenko along with Sergey Dankvert care about you, but, as they say, they do not leave vague doubts ...

But back to our American "friends" and "our answer." Whether Obama with his gay protection against Russia overdid it, or someone from the Rosselkhoznadzor once again revised the performance of Lady Gaga at a concert in a dress made of beef, which (Lady Gaga, and not beef) is now also voting against Russian law banning gay propaganda, but the fact remains: representatives of the Russian agricultural supervisory authority once again decided to resent the state of American meat. This time, representatives of the service of Sergey Dankvert found strains of E. coli in the boneless veal of American production, and attention: they decided to withdraw a large batch of this meat from the Russian retail chains.

A somewhat strange turn of events, especially after the representatives of the Rosselkhoznadzor themselves, that there is no American beef (veal) in one form or another on the Russian shelves for several months (since February), and that talks about its return with the US Department of Agriculture are on the phone. It turns out that such meat in the stores was not easy, but it was also in large quantities, since it was precisely the large lots that were gathered from the retail chains. Or, the mentioned boneless veal was still not included in the list of banned sorts of meat coming from the US ... And how much more such “ractopamine” raw material is in Russia and is quietly sold through large retail chains? .. Another question.

The American side was forced to respond to the new claims of the Rosselkhoznadzor and sanitary services, and not by telephone at all. Gentlemen from the US Department of Agriculture Development said that Russia is again trying to violate the rules of the WTO game (a new lever for our "partners"). At the same time, in the USA they stated that E. coli strains are present in almost any meat that goes on the shelves, however, this stick is not at all dangerous for a person if he, of course, is not going to eat beef and pork with raw materials. Like, cook meat, and the whole business ... Yeah, schazz! - our Rosselkhoznadzor answers them. Not for that sticks were found to take and cook like that ... Especially since the stars of your show business are so uncooked in beef and walk ...

In general, the Rosselkhoznadzor argues that it can respond to any political byak from abroad asymmetrically. The main thing is that such asymmetry be realized not only on paper, but also in reality, but it turns out that they were banned in the newspapers, but they were laid out on the shelves ...
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  1. +19
    16 August 2013 08: 30
    One of these ways is the use of Russian sanitary services, which at the time of the acute heat of Russian-American political relations “unexpectedly” find some nasty things in American products entering the Russian market. I would rather believe that my dog ​​will speak obscenely than Americans to us normal meat will be delivered. Better I’m going to buy meat from a neighbor or I’ll get livestock myself, it’s more reliable!
    1. +34
      16 August 2013 10: 21
      Gennady Onishchenko - How I Love Him))) Minister of Agricultural Defense ....
      1. Turik
        +7
        16 August 2013 10: 54
        Onishchenko - the shaggy paw of the Kremlin in the view of the West.
      2. +6
        16 August 2013 10: 59
        Quote: T-100
        Gennady Onishchenko - How I Love Him))) Minister of Agricultural Defense ...

        You just don’t know much about him .... if you knew what was happening in their inner kitchen, you would be discouraged .... and yes it sounds loud .. Onishchenko banned the import of wine! beef import! part of this, of course, is useful ... but it’s a drop in the ocean of what they could do .. (I will not say anything about Onishchenko himself and his relatives) for business is business in our valiant sanitary service.
        1. The State Sanitary and Epidemiological Service of the Russian Federation is a system of bodies, enterprises and institutions operating in order to ensure the sanitary and epidemiological well-being of the population and the prevention of human diseases.
        The main task of the State Sanitary and Epidemiological Service of the Russian Federation is to ensure the sanitary and epidemiological welfare of the population, prevention, identification and elimination of the dangerous and harmful effects of the human environment on his health.

        http://www.zakonprost.ru/content/base/part/92997
        I won’t write about stories with pigs and other outbreaks of diseases .. but what’s going on in the food production system and their sale ... you better not know ... because you will stop buying most products in the store.
        1. +1
          16 August 2013 11: 19
          Onishchenko banned the import of wine! beef import!
          Roman, I wanted to remind about sweets. wink
      3. Seraph
        +4
        16 August 2013 11: 30
        I join! How not to love such a wonderful character and newsmaker of half of the "hurray-patriotic" news. Zhirinovsky and Onishchenko - decorations of gray everyday life
        1. 755962
          +2
          16 August 2013 11: 56
          in Russia, the ways to bring the United States to white heat, apparently, have long been found.


          What did you want!? As they say
          In war as in war
      4. Good Ukraine
        +1
        16 August 2013 13: 53
        hi
        Quote: T-100
        Gennady Onishchenko - How I Love Him))) Minister of Agricultural Defense ....

        good
        Onishchenko is simply beautiful good

        I remember the relations between the USSR and the USA 30 years ago. In the USSR, "red propaganda" was working in full force, inside the country everyone thought that everything was fine, and the United States imposed various kinds of sanctions against the USSR.
        Now everything has changed. The United States has turned into a totalitarian country with flawlessly working propaganda against its own population and the whole world, and Russia is introducing all kinds of sanctions against the “democratic” “country, poking a finger in the eye every time, including with the help of Gennady Onishchenko.
        And Onishchenko’s fingers have thin, sharp nails. good
        The most interesting thing is that the USA cannot do anything.
  2. +4
    16 August 2013 08: 37
    onishchenko for zadapodusov worse than any weapon
    1. 0
      16 August 2013 14: 40
      Well, given that the United States makes huge money on meat, it’s a blow to their pockets, and who nowadays loves to lose losses from scratch? The United States has become a hostage to its policies.
  3. +2
    16 August 2013 08: 42
    Not for that they found sticks to take and cook like this ...


    That's for sure. Not for that!
  4. +11
    16 August 2013 08: 57
    You need to develop your livestock! rather than buying from a potential adversary. it is a matter of national security! I personally would gladly feed the enemy with some rubbish, even to the detriment of myself, so that after a while he would bend down. and if someone believes that they are friends to us, then he is deeply mistaken ...
    1. 0
      16 August 2013 09: 07
      Unfortunately, they develop according to their principles - with steroids, antibiotics and other crap ..... request
    2. stroporez
      +3
      16 August 2013 10: 02
      Quote: botsman80
      You need to develop your livestock!
      this is the most correct thing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if it would be okay there weren't those who know how and want to do this, and then there are people who understand this, and, most importantly, they want to make a shoto, but ... they simply do not give them. such a feeling that she was not interested in "their" manufacturers.
      1. +11
        16 August 2013 10: 40
        Guys, think it over.
        After half the world, meat is being brought to us.
        And here it costs less than that produced in Russia.
        It can be in a normal economy ?????

        means ..., this "interest" is subsidized by someone, and obviously not to the detriment of himself ....
        Maybe the "benefit" is not momentary, but it IS, otherwise what's the point.
        I buy meat, eggs, milk, only from local grandparents.
        And my children still do not get sick and "our old people" have a pretty penny ...
        And We show respect to PEOPLE earning LABOR, not schemes ...
        Start each act like Onishchenko))))
        Support each other and we are not afraid of the WTO)))
        1. +1
          16 August 2013 11: 22
          Quote: Asgard

          I buy meat, eggs, milk, only from local grandparents.
          And my children still do not get sick and "our old people" have a pretty penny ...
          And We show respect to PEOPLE earning LABOR, not schemes ...
          Start each act like Onishchenko))))
          Support each other and we are not afraid of the WTO)))

          Comment +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++ and another 100 times for so much !!! Buy (at least try to do it) products from those people or manufacturers you know, thereby supporting ordinary people, responsible, clean, environmentally friendly manufacturers, and it’s not clear to whom owned corporations specializing in GM products !!!
        2. +1
          16 August 2013 12: 22
          Quote: Asgard
          I buy meat, eggs, milk, only from local grandparents.
          And my children still do not get sick and "our old people" have a pretty penny ...

          It is so. But who will force manufacturers of semi-finished products and sausages to buy meat of Russian origin? You understand that mainly imported meat goes to refrigerators in a processed form.
          And about cheaper ... I don’t know. Argentinean beef is also a rod across the ocean. Not the fact that there is a different, non-economic, background here. Though thoughts suggest themselves ...
        3. zmey_gadukin
          +2
          16 August 2013 13: 52
          As always, a cool comment from Asgard ... +++++++
          1. +1
            17 August 2013 06: 03
            only Asgard doesn’t say for some reason that at the first attempt to ban the import of chicken from the USA, they banned our rolled steel in the same manner. From which the losses of metallurgists came out much more. After that, we were in 90- x getting out of bondage is not so simple. Everything is tied up. Today, for example, I have no problems buying domestic meat. I do not need to buy imported meat
    3. +2
      16 August 2013 10: 54
      Quote: botsman80
      You need to develop your livestock! it is a matter of national security! I personally would love to feed the enemy some rubbish,

      Already developed - nowhere else! The Rusagro company literally stuffed the middle zone of Russia with "modern" pig farms, where genetically modified pigs are raised in 2 months (!!!!), under a high dose of hormonal injections, on genetically modified feed !!!
      The situation is similar with poultry farms. And they are poisoning with this "product" not enemies, but us !!! The peasants, of course, cannot withstand such competition and are bent over.
      So whose Onischenko protects corporate interests there - a question !!!
      1. +1
        16 August 2013 17: 10
        Quote: olegff68
        breed genetically modified pigs !!!

        Now it is called "Bacon Pork", "Chicken Broilers" wassat
  5. Tatar
    +6
    16 August 2013 09: 07
    in Russia, millions of kilometers of land on which livestock breeding can and must be developed, no, America must be imported, but there is nano technology. At least the electronic components learned to rivet, and the descendants would already talk about nano-technologies.
    1. +6
      16 August 2013 09: 11
      ... nano-technology is a separate conversation ... I saw nano-brick, turned it in my hands for a long time and looked for where nano-. then he looked at the price tag and immediately found the nano as an extra zero ...
      1. 0
        16 August 2013 17: 22
        Quote: botsman80
        ..nano-technology is a separate conversation ... saw nano-brick

        Day after day our society
        Becomes a society of "nanists":
        Everything around became "nano":
        nano-technology, nano-faces,
        And even in the gateways
        Nano-gopniks beat with a shout: "Nnnna-na!"
        And the nano prime minister, enthusiastic as a puppy,
        Broadcasts from the nano screen:

        "This is our nano future -
        We are waiting for solid nano! "
        And nano projects flow down rivers
        To Skolkovo nano-pockets.
        And each of us gets
        small nano-happiness:
        Nano-work, nano-salary, nano-family,
        Nano-pension, nano-education, nano-medicine. Nano housing ...

        But I think that all this has been a long time
        Turned into a foul-smelling nano.
        D. Stepanov
    2. +2
      16 August 2013 09: 56
      you are talking about livestock breeding, I recently read here how aircraft carrier steam boilers were insulated with Chinese-made refractory bricks, which could not withstand the temperature and crumbled. The result was the failure of the entire system on the ship and multimillion-dollar losses. In the Soviet Union, our refractory was considered the best.
  6. +3
    16 August 2013 09: 30
    An analogue of the Russian nuclear potential is the chief sanitary doctor Gennady Onishchenko.

    Bravo!!! MFA - envy and learn from the fearless man deeply respected by me - the patriot of the Motherland!
    1. fartfraer
      +4
      16 August 2013 09: 38
      found and banned? no question. but if you received an instruction from the Kremlin and only after that found some "byaka", then such a "patriot"
      1. +1
        16 August 2013 11: 14
        Quote: fartfraer
        found and banned? no question. but if you received an instruction from the Kremlin and only after that found some "byaka", then such a "patriot"

        They receive many instructions from the Kremlin - and about eradicating corruption, bribery, raising living standards, etc. etc. What's the point? And where is the Foreign Ministry looking? No, well done Onishchenko! And a patriot!
  7. Oskar
    0
    16 August 2013 09: 30
    It is necessary to develop your own agricultural complex, otherwise in 20 years two-headed children will be born, and everywhere. GMOs are poison.
    And so Onishchenko is very expensive for the US budget (and not only)))))
    1. +1
      16 August 2013 14: 24
      Quote: Oskar
      It is necessary to develop your own agricultural complex, otherwise in 20 years two-headed children will be born, and everywhere. GMOs are poison.
      (and not only)))))

      We have already developed our agro-complex to such an extent that the need for imported meat and poultry has disappeared !!! That's just with us, like they have everything on GMOs !!!
      At newly opened poultry farms and pig farms, "emergency situations" often occur - inexperienced "laboratory assistants" who do not correctly calculate the daily dose of growth hormone in injections, make an "overdose", from which the bird and animals EXPLODE within 1-2 days, ie. their bodies begin to grow so quickly that the skin, not keeping up with the growth, bursts on the trunk and limbs !!!
      This is the reality of Russian "agrarians" and looking around at the crowd of fat children it becomes really scary !!! АУ Anischenko WHERE ARE YOU?!?!?!?!
  8. +2
    16 August 2013 09: 43
    Have they already included him (onishchenko) in the Magnitsky list?
    1. +8
      16 August 2013 09: 55
      No, they included him in the START-3 treaty list as a strategic weapon.
  9. +1
    16 August 2013 10: 14
    Onishchenko is the most important in our country!
    1. +1
      16 August 2013 11: 18
      Quote: omsbon
      Onishchenko is the most important in our country!

      And brave! And patriotic! I don’t give a damn what different media will say, I decided - and that’s it! And after all, they wipe themselves off and perform, which is certainly pleasing!
  10. solomon
    +3
    16 August 2013 10: 17
    For the first time, you can "live with wolves - howl like a wolf," and then you need to turn into a wolfhound.
  11. +2
    16 August 2013 10: 20
    Quote: botsman80
    You need to develop your livestock! rather than buying from a potential adversary. it is a matter of national security! I personally would gladly feed the enemy with some rubbish, even to the detriment of myself, so that after a while he would bend down. and if someone believes that they are friends to us, then he is deeply mistaken ...

    I completely agree with botsman80 that this is a matter of national security. Just the other day, in one of the articles, the possibility of using biological weapons in the modern world was voiced, not long before the declaration of war and was completely secretive ... just think about what a magnificent adversary the delivery channel for biological weapons to our western and central parts of the country is ... USA have already built one of their viral laboratories in Georgia .. in general, most of the laboratories that can, in case of trouble, develop a response to the viral threat are located in Europe and North America ... in Russia the only one ... Judge for yourself how we got these bird flu, animal diseases and all kinds of meningitis in strange forms from the south?
    As long as there is no human relations with this country and there is no documentary evidence of the quality of the goods used in food, it is necessary to check it and prohibit it forever at the slightest suspicion ... and meat can be purchased from more friendly Brazil and other countries of Latin America ... until its own volumes ..
    1. +2
      16 August 2013 11: 09
      Quote: denson06
      and meat can be purchased from more friendly Brazil and other countries of Latin America ... as long as there is none in the required volumes ..

      I’ll tell you a secret - the times when Russia needed to buy meat and poultry abroad are long gone !!! Soon, in addition to blocking our market, we will be ready to supply ourselves. Cattle production is still lagging, but only for now. The trouble is that meat and poultry produced in Russia are no better than imported ones - the same GM cattle and poultry grown on GM feed and hormone injections !!!
  12. Hel
    +4
    16 August 2013 10: 37
    Onishchenko is not a sanitary doctor, but just a dog who barks at the one whom the owner points to and that he will be our health. IPhone won’t even agreed that there was no meat industry in the USSR. All over the region (and we have a small one) You can’t count the cowsheds collapsed! Of course, you need to develop your livestock husbandry, and what kind of interest do you take for loans? We survived, you won’t find a day out in the markets of your own rustic meat, but a dime a dozen ...
  13. 0
    16 August 2013 10: 52
    It’s scary to even think of what kind of torture the American authorities came up with for Onishchenko in case he got into the United States. Probably he should not once again go abroad the Russian Federation. laughing
    1. 0
      16 August 2013 11: 20
      Quote: Predator-74
      It’s scary to even think of what kind of torture the American authorities came up with for Onishchenko in case he got into the United States. Probably he should not once again go abroad the Russian Federation. laughing

      Or, on the contrary, they will cover a gorgeous clearing !!!
  14. +1
    16 August 2013 10: 53
    An analogue of the Russian nuclear potential is the chief sanitary doctor Gennady Onishchenko. Well, someone, and he can definitely say that declaring war on the United States for him is to spit and grind ...ha ha ha that's for sure! Article plus .. written with humor
  15. +2
    16 August 2013 11: 09
    to be honest - no article ... no specific documents, facts, references ... many emotional passages and messages in one direction and the other. let's just say - I did not learn anything new in the article for myself.

    (But sticking to the Americans - certainly worth it, here I’m 100% FOR!)
  16. Dyukha Siberian
    +5
    16 August 2013 11: 19
    everything is correct in the article! you need tight control over the import of products from abroad, not only from the states, but in general! Can't Russia really feed itself without these "zaslanets"? think it can! sure! Our farms have been pounded, now we are buying all kinds of rubbish !!!! disgraceful !!!
  17. Nick_1972
    0
    16 August 2013 11: 24
    Oddities with American meat on the shelves? Nothing strange. A batch of meat is purchased, imported into the Russian Federation, declared as "cheek" or something like that. Further "negotiations" with customs officials and representatives of the same Rospotrebnadzor. And that's all. The product was released for domestic consumption. And let Mr. Onishchenko be looking for the next drug-containing plants, otherwise the parsley has somehow been forgotten.
  18. Dyukha Siberian
    0
    16 August 2013 12: 06
    and stop Onishchenko spread rot! Does he check every truck? how many tons are imported along the entire border of any crap? border guards do not even know on the spot! if the documents for the goods are in order, what can they do? there are big claims on the goods - import bans appear, it is a pity that it turns out later! but everyone knows that not only Russia is faced with this problem! and Europe, and the states are there too! this is a business, and alas, in addition to profit, he does not consider losses in our lives and health (((
  19. +2
    16 August 2013 12: 20
    In general, the Rosselkhoznadzor proves that it can respond asymmetrically to any political issue from abroad. The main thing is that such an asymmetry should be realized not only on paper, but also in reality

    probably we have strict standards for food products since the old days ..
    we used to make food to feed the people. and now to earn, and mattresses before to earn

    because of all nasty things everywhere there is more, more profit
    and our eyes open only when you need to punish

    ice cream before- from eggs of milk cream butter, and now? brrrrr, but cheaper, and stored for almost years
    1. 0
      16 August 2013 13: 37
      Well, why ... I'm about ice cream, we have Altaiholod makes three types of ice cream in cups, everywhere it seems like ice cream, but No. 1 for 14 rubles., No. 2 (the USSR is called) for 20 rubles., No. 3 GOST for 22 rubles. ... buy what you want, No. 3 is great ice cream! If anyone wants to take a shit, they’ll get cheaper! And not just food. hi
  20. -1
    16 August 2013 14: 31
    Quote: Tatar
    in Russia, millions of kilometers of land on which livestock breeding can and must be developed, no, America must be imported, but there is nano technology. At least the electronic components learned to rivet, and the descendants would already talk about nano-technologies.

    Millions km. land to these traits is not profitable to maintain for your personal pocket. They will crush their manufacturers (TYPE YES AT LEAST YOU ARE LIFE if only we were well). But then the American Farmers and livestock breeders will also be raised and have their own fat.
  21. Valery Neonov
    0
    16 August 2013 14: 36
    Quote: T-100
    Gennady Onishchenko - How I Love Him))) Minister of Agricultural Defense ....

    So it is! The real one! good
  22. +2
    16 August 2013 16: 58
    I buy pork from my Kuban farmer for 220r kg. entrecote and neck, the perfect taste and aroma of homemade meat, meat in supermarkets sucks, tasteless, like cotton wool and sweet brrrrr! And the same with homemade chicken, broth "I'll give you, swing!"
    1. 0
      17 August 2013 01: 54
      you would be interested in what kind of feed he feeds the animal. above have already developed this topic.
  23. 0
    17 August 2013 02: 30
    By the way, for those who are not in the know, here is the Lady Gaga's beef dress mentioned in the news:

    1. 0
      17 August 2013 11: 58
      To Siberia, her to the shift facility, even better to the zone. And the locals will have fun and devour.

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