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Russia should not be afraid of the new cold war with the United States

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Russia should not be afraid of the new cold war with the United StatesThe Snowden casus makes it impossible for Moscow to evade the answer to the question: “Are you with or against America?”


There are not enough keyboard keys for Russian diplomats to express the depth of their disappointment at the refusal of Barack Obama to meet with Vladimir Putin on the margins of the next G-20 summit. The reaction of the Russian side to, in general, the expected gesture from the outside seems painfully hypertrophied. Of course, diplomacy is first of all the science of politeness, and when the mother-in-law calls and informs that she changed her mind about going to dinner, you need to be able to portray sincere disappointment. But do not throw in the legs, do not wring hands and do not pester the old woman bewilderment - it can in fact change her mind.

We are trying with all our might to convey to our “in spite of everything” partners that we are extremely upset, disappointed and simply defeated by the refusal of Barack Obama. Probably, it flatters someone in the White House, but obviously it does not fit well with the strict anti-Americanism that is issued through loyal media channels. But would it not be more honest to accept the facts and not try to revive the cooling body of the “reset”, which, to be honest, was born prematurely. Obama’s refusal to meet with Putin cannot even be called an act of disrespect (and Baak Obama’s respect for a person who once said the famous Munich speech is a third-rate thing). This is a simple continuation of the logic of the modern world order, where the US decides the fate of one and all, and there bother with questions of diplomatic ethics to the extent that.

Although the picture was somewhat complicated by 30-year-old boy Snowden - exactly one of those whom the Russian viewer was used to seeing in the dumb American comedies about students. His abilities are clearly underestimated at home, but now, through various channels, they make it clear to us that it was the provision of a political asylum to the former CIA employee (albeit temporary) that was the last straw that persuaded Obama not to communicate with his Russian counterpart. But it was precisely that “last straw”, but no reason: Washington in every way convinces us (yes, it seems, itself) that Snowden is generally some sort of stupidity and misunderstanding, but then he is perplexed - why did he give up to us why not return?

It can be seen that the scale of the White House’s demarche does not correspond very well to our overblow reaction. Moreover, the American president is not going, in principle, to boycott communication with Putin. And will not meet. Because it is not necessary first of all to him. In general, in today's situation for Washington, Putin’s refusal to communicate with Obama would be a far greater disappointment. If only because such a turn would already be a signal. Washington is ready to endure audacity from the mouth of the head of the state, a “partner,” but direct demarches are too much. Fear of uncertainty, uncertainty is one of the strongest.

But even in this case, the reaction of the United States would appear to be less humiliating for the country itself.

Valery Korovin, political analyst, director of the Center for Geopolitical Expertise, deputy head of the Center for Conservative Research, Department of Sociology, Moscow State University, said that in current circumstances Russia has good chances to “reformat” current geopolitics.

- Russia continues to demonstrate to the world that it is strictly in the field of international law and calls on everyone to be in this legal field. In this regard, we express bewilderment, since there were no formal reasons for such a demarche on the part of Barack Obama. But in fact, the Americans proceed from a completely different logic: they have long seen in the grave international law and proceed only from the fact that they are a hyperpower that rules the world. And the only thing that prevents them from stating it openly is the absence of legal grounds.

So it turns out that Russia is perplexed, because from a legal point of view there are no grounds for canceling the visit of the American president, and America is perplexed because it considers itself the mistress of the world, to the will of which everyone must obey and therefore sees no reason for the meeting, since Russia behaves "Rebellious" does not fulfill American requirements. For America, this alone is a fatal event in itself. We are in completely different coordinate systems and they do not converge, but diverge. We insist on the multipolarity of the world and the right of nation states to sovereignty. America, on the other hand, proceeds from the fact that the world is unipolar, that it is itself a hegemon, that it is an indisputable fact, an axiom and the world simply must live with this truth. Over time, these two conflicting models diverge further and further.

We have two options: either accept the American point of view, American logic and capitulate, giving up sovereignty and the agenda itself, or begin to increase its influence in the world. This can be done only by attracting allies and creating strategic military blocs. That is, by increasing our geopolitical weight. And this can be done not by increasing internal capabilities, but by creating civilization blocs.

And in fact, Russia today is on the path of creating such a bloc, on the path of restoring the Soviet space, which is very painfully perceived by the American side. After all, if this process develops successfully, the United States will eventually be forced to admit the fact of the presence of this Eurasian supranational bloc, which will synchronize the strategic, political and military positions of the states included in this bloc. This, in effect, will open the era
multipolarity.

The created Eurasian bloc itself will become a precedent for the formation of the same military-strategic blocs, poles. A multipolar world will become an absolute reality that America will have to recognize and inevitably reconsider its approaches to foreign policy. Only in the conditions of multipolarity will we be able to change the overall situation in the world, pay off conflicts, increase our influence by involving new states in our orbit and creating both geopolitical civilization blocs.

Snowden just helped to raise the issue of a multipolar world, he forced Russia to take the path of forming its own agenda. All previous years, starting with Putin’s coming to power and before the advent of Snowden, Russia tried to sit more and more in the shadow of global processes, to avoid defining its position. The world asked us: "So are you with America or are you against America?" I had to shy away from the answer to such a simple question: “Well, what does“ with America ”mean? What does "not with America" ​​mean? We have our own interests there, we will defend them, but at the same time do not insist, and if we insist, then not much, we can bargain, retreat or advance (but not for long!). ”

Snowden sharpened the situation so much that it became impossible to shy away from the directly posed question and the situation began to develop rapidly. Our side showed perseverance in matters of sovereignty and generally following the letter of international law, while the American side increased pressure by refusing to take it for granted. This may well turn into a “cold war”, but it is not necessary to be afraid of it. Either we capitulate without a war, without a fight and without suffering, or "we will still fight" and, perhaps, even come out of this war as winners, because once they have already suffered defeat ...
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  1. makst83
    makst83 14 August 2013 09: 14 New
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    The behavior of the United States (moaning and offended) is like a kindergarten: "-Give me a candy! - I won't give it! -Well, let me, eh !? - Said no!" Honestly, funny! Russia sample 1999-2013, not Russia 1991-1999! We have our own opinion, our own policy, in the end we are a self-sufficient state and do not care about the opinion of the "hegemon" and the rest of the "advanced" world! Why be afraid of the Cold War? And we are not afraid, the West is afraid of it, because in a deep priest and to begin, under no circumstances, it will not be! We only pursue our sovereign policy and care about our interests!
    1. experienced
      experienced 14 August 2013 15: 09 New
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      It’s time to start to the States to be afraid of Russia. I recall the events of 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX when many Americans thought that Russian tanks plowed Georgia laughing It was ridiculous to read the comments from the American forums with puzzled questions: "What have we done to the Russians, that they have begun to seize us?" laughing
      1. Zlodeey
        Zlodeey 14 August 2013 21: 41 New
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        Quote: seasoned
        I recall the events of 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX when many Americans thought that Russian tanks plowed Georgia

        I read, several of them, was it a joke or was it serious?

        - Georgia? I don’t know where the Soviet troops are in Georgia.
        “These are all the results of the political game that Bush started.”
        - But Carter would never let Russian units into his native state.
        “I wonder when Clinton let Russian troops into Serbia, was that a better idea?”
        - If the Russians withdraw their troops from Georgia, terrorism will begin to rise there and American forces will have to be sent to fight it. And this is again the victim.
        - Russians, get out of the USA immediately !!!!
        “Georgia today ... who's next?” Florida? And then?? This must be stopped !!!!
        - Listen, when was the last time you defined your i-c?
        - What do you think is like a moron ???
        - Why are Putin’s troops in Atlanta? Just shizeyu, how terrible it is! ..
        - Russian troops must be withdrawn to New Mexico and Arizona, to defend our borders. In Georgia, they are no longer needed.
        - Why the Russian army in Atlanta? I'm waiting for an answer, damn it!
        - I won’t know why Russia is holding troops in Georgia. This is really terrible, it would be better if they left.
        - Our senator said that the Russians promised to withdraw the troops in three years, but he would not give a broken cent for this promise.
        - American troops in Europe, and Soviet troops in the USA. This is destiny.
        “As far as I remember, Bill Clinton let them in.” !
        - Americans, are you stupid? Do you seriously think that in the article about Georgia in the USA?
        - This opens up Georgia for invasion. They will invade Florida from the south, and Tennessee and South Carolina from the north. Without Russian troops, Atlanta will fall, as Athens fell. The era of a new reconstruction of the world begins.
        “Bush, how dare you!” How did you decide to give Georgia to the Russians?
        - Oh no!!! I hope they do not attack Atlanta !!!
        “My sister lives in Georgia.” In Columbus. I hope that she will be all right.
        - Send attack aircraft to Atlanta! Breast Protect Georgia!
        “Why Georgia?” Is this a new cold war with the Russians? And why exactly Georgia? I also understand - New York, but Georgia?
        “Why didn't they tell us anything?” No one said a word that the communist soldiers settled in one of our southern states. And how to get them out of there now?
        - I went to Atlanta. I hope to find some Russian troops intact there before they get out.
        - My heard, Georgia is Russia. Sometimes.
        - Atlanta is ready - serve Russians here! We will lower the crowds of our barbs on their asses !!!
        “Georgia first, Alabama tomorrow!” We must protect ourselves. Russians are coming!!!
        “Why did we allow one of the states to do this?” All international treaties must be approved at the federal level!
        - North Carolina is also in a panic.
        - It is possible that Russia will attack Crawford.
        - Gee! Just think, the Americans got pierced with Georgia. I would never have thought. They probably will not find Georgia on the map of the USA. To giggle.
        - Read to all stupid asses. They write about the Republic of Georgia, which separated after the collapse of the USSR, and not about the American state. Try to rise above the fifth grade.

        Full article here: http://kowmap.livejournal.com/2356.html
    2. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru 14 August 2013 18: 14 New
      +2
      hi
      Doesn't Obama want to date?
      Well, I drink to him.
      There in his place the remaining 17 presidents are bursting in line to take.
      As an adult, you need to refer to this "kindergarten", namely - NOT to pay attention ...
  2. andrei332809
    andrei332809 14 August 2013 15: 16 New
    +7
    in the Cold War, but you don’t need to be afraid of it.

    But were we once afraid? No matter how the Communist Party of the USSR washed our brains, it still left us the opportunity to think for ourselves. but in the West, this opportunity was taken away after the First World War, they shut up their mouths and lazed the brain with almost free (debt) grub. and now it’s necessary to pay for everything eaten by previous generations, but the brain can’t think of something like that. Let them be afraid, otherwise we’ll be offended and start repairing the analysis.
    1. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 14 August 2013 16: 17 New
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      Quote: andrei332809
      But were we once afraid? No matter how the Communist Party of the USSR washed our brains, it still left us the opportunity to think for ourselves. but in the West, this opportunity was taken away after the First World War, they shut up their mouths and lazed the brain with almost free (debt) grub. and now it’s necessary to pay for everything eaten by previous generations, but the brain can’t think of something like that. Let them be afraid, otherwise we’ll be offended and start repairing the analysis.

      You are absolutely right, I will say even more - I would welcome the "cold" war with the United States for the simple reason that it will leave less chances for our liberals to support the people ...
      1. Natalia
        Natalia 14 August 2013 17: 32 New
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        Quote: ziqzaq
        You are absolutely right, I will say even more - I would welcome the "cold" war with the United States for the simple reason that it will leave less chances for our liberals to support the people ...

        Yes, liberalists (masturbation) in general should be excluded as a class, since these are the first pests of Russia's sovereignty.
        At the helm of Putin, he is not a liberal, he is supposedly a dictator (as he is called in the west), but thank God, but I'm sure he will not include the back one. But now there is a chance to expand the situation globally.

        . wink well, tear them)
  3. ariy_t
    ariy_t 14 August 2013 15: 19 New
    +1
    In principle, it’s true ... And if you also analyze the financial system ........ What for do you need rogue citizens with parasites who have a bunch of benefits ???? This is me about Europe .. Soon they will be FORCED to sell or die .. Although of course it is always insulting and unpleasant to run into a tough answer, then I understand Babam .. However, politics is not a kindergarten ...
  4. artemiy
    artemiy 14 August 2013 15: 24 New
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    Putin made fun of a dumb question!
    1. alex21411
      alex21411 14 August 2013 16: 44 New
      +1
      Thanks, made laugh)
  5. smart ass
    smart ass 14 August 2013 15: 26 New
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    As if we were once afraid of the Cold War!)) Do not make me laugh ...
  6. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 14 August 2013 15: 27 New
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    We are no stranger to Russia during its history has always been in a state of "hot" or "cold" war. We can see a piece (1/3) of land stuffed with natural resources and we are constantly fighting back as we can from jackals of different ... We will stand as always !!
    1. MG42
      MG42 14 August 2013 18: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Throughout its history, Russia has always been in a state of "hot" or "cold" war. We can see a piece (1/3) of land stuffed with natural resources

      Russia 1 \ 7 part of the land, and the USSR was 1 \ 6 part of the land .. it is necessary to protect the territory but also to expand ..
      If you recall Alaska = then the territory was very, very ..
  7. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 14 August 2013 15: 28 New
    +5
    The situation with Snowden was "sharpened" by the United States. By leading it to a standstill, they put a bunch of states in an uncomfortable position, forcing them to make unfavorable decisions. Including Russia - she does not need Snowden. Already because the state of uncertainty in Russian-American relations is primarily beneficial for the Russian Federation, every day of such a muddy waltz is beneficial to the growing (very slowly, unfortunately) Russia and disadvantageous to the weakening United States. Being in the legal field is exactly the same advantageous position for a country that cannot afford the "luxury" of violating its borders.
    Today, a clear anti-American policy is dangerous for Russia. The Cold War, which almost inevitably follows from tough anti-Americanism, even in the legal field, though not in the legal field, in the current state of our country is unprofitable and unprofitable. Moreover, the second defeat in the new Cold War will have catastrophic consequences for Russia.
    Pulling time is the only strategy.
    1. Egen
      Egen 15 August 2013 11: 51 New
      0
      Exactly. Already wrote the version. That aggravation of relations may be beneficial to someone in the United States. For example, arms manufacturers and politicians supporting them. Well, to bungle the operation with Snowden or even use it in vain - a couple of trifles, a million or two bucks where the contracts for billions are also a trifle.
      I did not see the information that he possesses and partly transmitted. Part of it may already be known to the whole world, part of desa, and only a piece for verification - the truth, which tomorrow could already have been stolen. Like, nobody knew anything about eavesdropping on telephone conversations ... :)
      The usual trick. We will wait - but we are unlikely to see who benefits from it.
  8. runway
    runway 14 August 2013 15: 30 New
    +3
    You don’t need to be afraid at all, but you should not refuse from common sense. Why are they preparing us for the Cold War, forgetting yet another popular wisdom that a bad world is better than a good quarrel (a cold or hot war). Who will benefit from the current aggravation of relations? Particularly active talk about a preventive nuclear strike on the states as if they themselves just rest in the epicenter of a nuclear explosion. Hard to believe. But what is beyond doubt is that in these, on the basis of overheated patriotism, their last brains flowed out completely. To wish any war, cold or hot, in my opinion, a person in his mind CANNOT.
    1. ramsi
      ramsi 14 August 2013 20: 35 New
      +1
      here you are wrong, the cold war is the "bad world". Otherwise, we are partners. Do you want to be their partner? .. I don't!
  9. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 14 August 2013 15: 31 New
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    I absolutely agree with this position. It's time to get out of the "twilight". As O. Bender said: "It's time to touch citizen Koreiko's udder."
    IT'S TIME!
  10. Stiletto
    Stiletto 14 August 2013 15: 37 New
    +7
    If you want peace, get ready for war. To be ready does not mean to fight. America is fighting only with those who are not ready for this.
  11. a52333
    a52333 14 August 2013 15: 40 New
    +4
    Snowden just helped put the question of a multipolar world on edge, he forced Russia to embark on the formation of its own agenda.
    ??????????????? Come on! And what, this boy opened his eyes to us? And before this GDP (and you and I) were not in the know? Chet not believe it.
    1. vadson
      vadson 14 August 2013 21: 22 New
      0
      Not for us, but for the western man in the street
  12. pa_nik
    pa_nik 14 August 2013 15: 46 New
    +5
    "Russia should not be afraid of a new cold war with the United States"

    I would paraphrase: "Russia does not need a war with the States." (And with no other country wink ).

    Quote: piston
    To wish any war, cold or hot, in my opinion, a person in his mind CANNOT.


    Exactly... good
    1. ariy_t
      ariy_t 14 August 2013 16: 13 New
      +3
      Want peace, get ready for war (Si vis pacem, para bellum) .. hi
    2. zart_arn
      zart_arn 14 August 2013 18: 31 New
      0
      Russia does not need war with the States. And with no other country

      Precisely, they have already fought. Remember the words of the song "Do the Russians want war?"
      Thirsty for all kinds of conflicts, either non-Russian or ... smile

      But this does not mean that conflicts do not need to be prepared.
  13. pa_nik
    pa_nik 14 August 2013 15: 53 New
    +7
    On May 5, 1941, at the reception of graduates of military academies in the Kremlin, the following happened:

    "I got up in the hall General Sivkov and said in a loud bass:

    - Comrades! Offer a drink for peace, for the Stalinist policy of the world, for the creator of this policy, for our great leader and teacher Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin.

    Stalin waved his hand in protest. The guests were bewildered. Stalin said something to Tymoshenko, who announced: "Comrade Stalin is asking for the word." There was applause. Stalin gestured for everyone to sit down. When the hall became quiet, he began his speech. He was very angry, stuttered a little, a strong Georgian accent appeared in his speech.

    “This general didn't understand anything.” He didn’t understand anything. We Communists are not pacifists, we have always been against unjust wars, imperialist wars for the redivision of the world, for the enslavement and exploitation of the working people. We have always been for just wars for the freedom and independence of peoples, for revolutionary wars for the liberation of peoples from colonialism, for the liberation of working people from capitalist exploitation, for the fairest warrior and the defense of the socialist fatherland. Germany wants to destroy our socialist state, conquered by the working people under the leadership of the Communist Party of Lenin. Germany wants to destroy our great homeland, the homeland of Lenin, the conquest of October, to exterminate millions of Soviet people, and turn the survivors into slaves. Only the war against fascist Germany and the victory in this war can save our Motherland. I propose that we drink for the war, for the offensive in the war, for our victory in this war.

    Stalin drained his glass, everyone in the audience did the same. There was silence. The concert continued. "

    drinks
    1. kush62
      kush62 14 August 2013 16: 27 New
      -2
      Apparently 45 confused with 41 years?
  14. Siberian
    Siberian 14 August 2013 16: 10 New
    +2
    Quote: Stiletto
    If you want peace, get ready for war. To be ready does not mean to fight. America is fighting only with those who are not ready for this.

    Only they can fight (as if to fight) and they can. And then with pride they lift their nose, such as the most powerful and not victorious.
  15. 12345
    12345 14 August 2013 16: 20 New
    +3
    ... actually the Americans ... they saw international law in the grave ...


    And, the rest of the world desperately hopes, someday, one day, to see themselves in the grave ...

    Yellowstone volcano, wake up! Wake up yourself!

    Ah, then - wake up ...
  16. knn54
    knn54 14 August 2013 16: 28 New
    +4
    “Are you with or against America?”
    And who is with America? This country DOESN'T HAVE ANY concept of friendship. She has no PARTNERS / ALLIES, but only vassals.
    The question is: are you under America or not.
    It's time to regain the lost honor and self-esteem, because even Cuba and the DPRK are too tough for the United States, because there is a great sense of self-esteem, up to self-sacrifice.
    After the collapse of the USSR, the Cold War ended, but the United States pushed NATO close to Russian borders, including the former socialist countries and even the former Soviet republics of the Baltic states.
    I wonder how the Yankees would take the military block of Russia with Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, etc., created after the Cold War?
    In addition, in the USA they can no longer live without the image of an enemy, CONSTANTLY inventing / appointing enemies from anyone. But there is no method other than scrap against scrap. The main thing is that ALL of us (and our government) will be cleansed of the infection of greed, profit and other perverted values .
    PS Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden, Patrick Buchanan - a flame will ignite from a spark.
  17. shinobi
    shinobi 14 August 2013 16: 36 New
    +3
    A comparison of the USA with the old mother-in-law was delivered! American officials from the State Department can’t forget 90 in any way, but they went into oblivion like their favorite drunk EBN. If German financiers are right, then they will soon go there too.
  18. pa_nik
    pa_nik 14 August 2013 16: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: kush62
    Apparently 45 confused with 41 years?


    Not confused. This meeting was before the war. In 1941.

    Memoirs of Muratov Enver "Six hours with IV Stalin in the Kremlin"

    So there is no point in speculating about Stalin’s unpreparedness for war, that he did not see its approach. hi
  19. MG42
    MG42 14 August 2013 16: 48 New
    +4
    For some reason, I recalled a joke about the hero and the Serpent of Gorynych, to fight so to fight ..
    And in fact, Russia today is on the path of creating such a bloc, on the path of restoring the Soviet space, which is very painfully perceived by the American side. After all, if this process develops successfully, the United States will eventually be forced to admit the fact of the presence of this Eurasian supranational bloc, which will synchronize the strategic, political and military positions of the states included in this bloc. This, in effect, will open the era
    multipolarity.

    Therefore, the United States will in every possible way put sticks in the wheels of integration processes in the post-Soviet space, when the Warsaw Pact existed, it was a real counterbalance to the NATO bloc, they reckoned with it and respected, and only wiped their feet on wimps ..
  20. Turner
    Turner 14 August 2013 17: 04 New
    +1
    And I liked the mother-in-law
  21. IRBIS
    IRBIS 14 August 2013 17: 12 New
    +1
    Snowden did not define anything; he is only a pawn in the big game. He voluntarily or involuntarily gave a unique chance for the Russian leadership to kick the States without leaving the legal field of international relations. The Americans, by refusing to meet with the presidents, put themselves even more vulnerable. We are waiting for our next move. The sequel will be more interesting. In my opinion, the pieces are already placed and all the moves are defined. The impotent anger of the United States and the majestic silence of Putin create a sharp contrast, and this is in our hands. What is happening can change the attitude of many countries towards the States not for the better and give us the opportunity to conclude certain alliances and agreements with them.
  22. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 14 August 2013 17: 18 New
    -1
    How did this snowden already get.
  23. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 14 August 2013 17: 33 New
    +2
    There is probably no need to be afraid of the "cold war" ... but there is no need to start it either. Now is not the time of Tsar Ever-drunk. It will bring little good ... but our rebirth from the ashes, like the PHOENIX bird, will significantly slow down. Having already passed one stage of handing over positions, I hope that the lessons have been learned and the second time we will not fall for big words. We must still stand firm in our positions ... not to give slack. Our positions are based on well-reasoned behavior. The Amers - they got overboard and they lost the essence of what was happening ... they have no arguments to argue with us ... so they took a break to gain time ... and take a breath ... and think about new ideas ... And yet there are no new ones ideas and arguments aMers are engaged in elementary blackmail and cheap public play.
    The main thing is not to succumb to provocations ... not to curry favor ... but to wait in the wings. The TRUTH is behind us ... and IN HER POWER!
  24. mole
    mole 14 August 2013 17: 33 New
    +2
    They will not fight with us. They cannot win, there is no spirit. They can only share, breed, buy and win victories in conflicts. Despite all the PR of the new Amer’s weapons to oppose spirit wink with AK they can not do anything significant, not to mention the solution of the issue with North Korea. The main thing is not to allow yourself to "ripen" for invasion, to remain a sovereign state, independent of external pressure, and then at most, amers can only do small nasty things to us. Let them inflate their military budget, especially on fantastic developments (the more expensive and fantastic, the better), since they also have corruption. As a result, they will eat themselves.
  25. chenia
    chenia 14 August 2013 17: 47 New
    +6
    Quote: piston
    But what is beyond doubt is that in these, on the basis of overheated patriotism, their last brains flowed out completely. To wish any war, cold or hot, in my opinion, a person in his mind CANNOT.


    "Peacocks are talking."
    No guys in a passive position will not be able to sit out. In “love and friendship” with the West, we lost up to 60 million people, ruined everything that could be broken up. And most importantly, they lost respect for themselves in the West (Russia has just begun to restore its former prestige, and Ukraine continues to bow to all the gatekeepers at the entrance of the EU).

    The West (as in the days of the USSR) is no longer humiliatingly asking, but strictly demanding the implementation of profitable (for themselves) their own decisions (and our (it is still unknown how OUR it is) sales elite convinces us of the profitability of these decisions).

    The Cold War, which means in the Magnitsky list, all our officials, and all our businessmen. They do not have islands of salvation and nest egg beyond the hillock - the effect of a submarine (we are all drowning, or we are all being saved - another psychology becomes). All money remains in the country.

    Business will have to toughly protect the interests of the country abroad, as this coincides with their interests. The fear of a social explosion (and the loss of everything) will force a completely different social policy to be taken into account with the interests of society.

    And when love and friendship with the West, and “our” elite have where and with which to blame, we turn into a country of ONCE-time use.
  26. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 14 August 2013 18: 20 New
    +1
    Since the United States is a global empire, it is forced to keep under the supervision of thousands of positions on the global map, to monitor the army of corrupt officials and politicians they bought, terrorist organizations created by them, a huge bureaucratic apparatus of all sorts of pro-American UN., IMF, etc. And now also instead of the USSR alone, keep an eye on Russia and China, which, moreover, follow different paths and agree only in their rejection of a unipolar world in the American way, which puts Russia and China on the same side, at least in the eyes of the Americans. The Americans did not leave Vietnam because that they lost in an open battle, they just never lost, but because it became unbearable and they gave up on this Vietnam of yours, leaving South Vietnam to its fate. We should arrange the United States not military, but diplomatic Vietnam, but this is mean and it is dishonest to beat stealthily and in the back, finish off the wounded and lagging behind, and so on. Having poured on the Americans with the entire army of North Vietnam and the Viet Cong, they could not win, but the guerrilla tactics justified themselves. It is necessary to make the ground under their feet burn in the space of the former USSR and in the zone of our interests, bite them here and there and immediately leave into the "jungle", slaughter American henchmen and outbid officials, make an innocent face for any American accusations and say that we have nothing to do with it, these are all terrorists. And then the Americans will become unbearable and they will either reveal their true wolf being, than they will forever bury their myth about a "knight without fear and reproach" but they will not do it because this is the collapse of everything, or they will throw the cards and leave, it is very painful for them, but not fatal, you can retreat and accuse the Russians of revanchism and "chronic rejection of progressive values."
  27. Dboshnik
    Dboshnik 14 August 2013 19: 07 New
    +2
    Comrades, have you ever thought about what the United States usually does? Namely, he uses fraudulent provocation, remember at least September 11, what sacrifice had to pay for the "World War on Terrorism", you must admit the game was worth the candle, and Snowden is the same provocative mine, which, as it was supposed, Russia stepped on, or Edward Snowden is a distracting target , which was so diligently and very magnificently inflated by the media, which was also strange, it seemed such a scandal, they will try to hide everything, hence the conclusion that something really requiring incognito status is going on behind the curtain.
  28. user
    user 14 August 2013 21: 53 New
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    The dream of the Kazakh teenager is to return Soviet power. The nationalists, liberals and other democrats are in shock. Listen to what this Kazakhstani schoolboy says. Indeed, startlingly adult judgments are essentially boys. This kid’s name is Yersain, his last name is Kabdullin.

  29. michajlo
    michajlo 14 August 2013 22: 47 New
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    Quote: DBOshnik
    Comrades, have you ever thought about what the United States usually does? Namely, he uses fraudulent provocation, remember at least September 11, what sacrifice had to pay for the "World War on Terrorism", you must admit the game was worth the candle, and Snowden is the same provocative mine, which, as it was supposed, Russia stepped on, or Edward Snowden is a distracting target , which was so diligently and very magnificently inflated by the media, which was also strange, it seemed such a scandal, they will try to hide everything, hence the conclusion that something really requiring incognito status is going on behind the curtain.

    Good evening, dear "DBOshnik"! Regarding the sad grotesque called "the September 11 attacks against the United States," I completely agree with you. good
    If the doubts of the critics of "11/XNUMX staging" were only inventions of conspiracy supporters, they would have melted into the sand long ago, but in this "tearful story" about the death of innocent American citizens, a lot of inconsistencies and stretches.
    Especially those of us who remember how for the first time in 2001, showed on TV a fire and the subsequent "technically unmistakable" fall of a high-rise down floor by floor from top to bottom, as happens ONLY with a controlled explosion of a high-rise structure.

    Regarding your guess about a former NSA specialist, I also agree with you, good only this action itself has not yet ended.
    Since the thoughts "about the double purpose of the Snowden case" are expressed by seriously thinking people, from the very beginning of this story, even when he just arrived in Hong Kong and said that it not just a man of conscience but perhaps a "sent Cossack".
    Since in time, his escape from the USA to Hong Kong and from there to Russia, Well, very harmoniously fit into the tense period in the geopolitics of BV and Asia (Muslim intervention in Syria, turmoil in Egypt, Turkey, preparation for the withdrawal of fluffy and innocent "interethnic forces" from Afghanistan).
    So, it is very possible that Snowden himself, even with his personal naivety and misunderstanding of the whole, is only competent distraction in a multi-way game called "at the beginning of the combustion process of TMV (3rd World War)".
  30. Russkiy_Prapor
    Russkiy_Prapor 15 August 2013 07: 58 New
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    The US leadership understands that the plan of Alain Dales (based on the Ost plan), which worked so successfully in the late 80s and early 90s, is currently bursting at the seams. The initiative has already escaped the hands of the United States. Russia is getting stronger every day and our power is growing. Putin's CIA slept and all they have to do now is to express their dissatisfaction with policies that run counter to the interests of the West and the United States in particular. Distinguishing the right president of Russia from a traitor is quite simple: you just need to monitor the US reaction to his actions. The Cold War will no longer help the United States, but they will expose themselves to ridicule. In addition, China, India and a number of European countries will not spoil the well-established and very profitable relations with Russia for the sake of America, the world is already fed up with the politics and "friendship" of the Arsenal of Pidorocracy. There are almost no fools left.
  31. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 15 August 2013 08: 39 New
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    It's time for everyone to understand that in the entire history of mankind there has never been a more aggressive, unprincipled and vile state that has violated not only international law, but all God's commandments! All their "power over the world" rests on intimidation (smashing small countries) but it's time to understand that we have seen even greater "intimidators" and where are they?
  32. discord
    discord 16 August 2013 21: 22 New
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    article came out good