The plane crashed the Brazilian Air Force: the pilots ejected, but died when landing

The Brazilian Air Force Super Tucano A-29 double crashed and crashed in the state of Sao Paulo.

Both pilots - officers of the smoke squadron elite aerobatic team - managed to eject but died when they landed, ITAR-TASS reports, citing the press service of the air force.

The tragedy occurred close to the runway of the Pirasunung airbase. According to available information, no one was injured on earth. An investigation into the circumstances of the crash.

Now, the squadron of smoke squadron is transferring to more powerful and heavy Super Tucano after relatively light and maneuverable Tucano T-27 aircraft.

The Brazilian turboprop attack aircraft Super Tucano is actively used by the air forces of the South American country to patrol vast territories of the Amazon and to fight drug trafficking.

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[experienced]

Both pilots - officers of the elite aerobatic team "Smoke Squadron" - managed to eject, but died on landing

Who can clarify the details?
All I could find

Perhaps there was not enough time to open the parachute.

taken from here: http://www.24news.ru/news/world/1451707916s.html

[ShturmKGB]

How could they die on landing? Fell into the Amazon and were eaten by piranhas?

[wow]

When bailout, you can die in many cases: the seats went out, but their release did not work, maybe the stabilizing parachutes didn’t come out, the bailout order machine didn’t work out (the second cabin comes out first, and then the first one) and other and other.

[svp67]

Quote: seasoned

Who can clarify the details?
All I could find

I’m more interested in the question - is there a catapult in general, it’s very light ... Most likely, the pilots left the emergency plane in the usual way and they simply did not have enough time and height to deploy parachutes ...

[experienced]

Quote: svp67

I’m more interested in the question - is there a catapult on this plane at all, it’s very light ...

Sergey, hammer Damn, stereotypes work, but you really surely opened the lamp yourself, unfastened and fell out, and this time ...
Thanks, opened your eyes
"plus"

[Lopatov]

There are catapults there. http://www.airwar.ru/enc/other/stucano.html

[Corsair]

Quote: Spade

There are catapults there.

But, alas, unfortunately did not help ...
I would risk being accused of bias, but in my opinion, if the planes were equipped with ejection seats developed by NPP Zvezda, the result would be different ...

Gai Ilyich Severin - General Director and General Designer of NPP "Zvezda" in the field of development of rescue equipment in the aerospace industry.
Date of Birth:
24 July 1926 - Date of death:
February 7 2008

[Lopatov]

Not the fact that you can put heavy chairs there. Although in this I am not special.
In theory, on such aircraft, they squeeze for every gram.

[VAF]

Quote: seasoned

Damn, stereotypes work, but you really surely opened the lamp yourself, unfastened and fell out, and this time ...

Lyosha, hello, my friend! My namesake is wrong, or rather, in fact. in theory, of course, there are times when you can try to unfasten yourself from the seat and try to jump out of the upside down position of the aircraft while creating a positive overload. but .. not on all seats, only on those where the parachute is under ... boot (Type C3, ser. 3) or in the headline (a chair of the type KT-1km), but on the K-36 already ... nizya.
Plus, do not forget 0 to 0, this is only in the horizon, and with negative V vertical, in general, the minimum safe ejection height approaches a hundred meters, so the height might not be enough to completely open the parachute canopy, plus they could not "go" vertically. but in any other position, so there can be many reasons.
To "defuse the situation" I ask for a film that tells how the "sparks" were used for their intended purpose !
And then, when I tell you, the Avenger (for example, says that this can not be), but when someone else or a fact then somehow exposes it, then the Avenger is in the ... better ... and it is always nice!



Well, now "hero of the occasion "cockpit on twin it was possible ... hoo to "load", because the technical compartment was not heated

[sub307]

So - there are catapults, like many other things. Brazilians should not be considered "medieval peizans" concerned only with "festival tinsel". By the way, the USA, as of 2012, ordered 20 A-29 Super Tucano for their needs.
"In January 1991, the development of a new modification of the aircraft, called EMB-312H Super Tucano, began. The machine had a reinforced airframe with an elongated fuselage, a more powerful power plant (Pratt-Whitney TVD Canada RT6A-68-1 with a capacity of 1600 hp with a five-blade propeller), a new canopy, cockpit instrumentation using liquid crystal displays, allowing the use of night vision goggles, a satellite navigation receiver, five external suspension nodes, pressurizing the cabin and protecting it with Kevlar armor barriers, new ejection seats, onboard oxygen equipment with an oxygen generation system , anti-overload suits for pilots and a number of other improvements. "

[Corsair]

Quote: sub307

So - catapults are present there, as well as much more.

"Tukan" is an interesting airplane and it CAN BE, such a technique would "find" a "place" in the RF Armed Forces? The concept of a turboprop attack aircraft has not become obsolete ...

[crazyrom]

Yes nafig necessary, we have a Yak-130. Toucans are light, simple, but I don’t see any sense beyond training and aerobatics. And they patrol them and attack drug trafficking ...

[Andrey77]

The catapults are not there. This is approximately our YAK in the Second World War. You can take a parachute, or you can put it under the seat ...

[Volkhov]

Catapults are visible on the plane in the photo.

[wow]

There are ejection chairs on Tucano. This can be seen even in the photo.

[APASUS]

Quote: svp67

I’m more interested in the question - is there a catapult in general, it’s very light ... Most likely, the pilots left the emergency plane in the usual way and they simply did not have enough time and height to deploy parachutes ...

Pay attention to the ejection seats there are present

The aircraft is made according to the normal aerodynamic scheme with a low-lying trapezoidal two-spar wing, which has single-slot flaps and ailerons with electrically controlled trimmers. The fuselage is a half-monocoque type. The wing and fuselage are made of aluminum alloys. The cabin is double, with a single-section lantern, reclining to the right, and catapult seats. The control of the pitch of the propeller and the engine speed is displayed on one handle. At the rear of the fuselage there is a luggage compartment with a volume of 0,17 m3.

[s1н7т]

Quote: seasoned

Who can clarify the details?

This is not K-36 for you, it might not be enough height.

[Alex 241]

Valentine on Tucano installed Martin-Baker Mk 10LCX ejection seats, providing the crew the ability to leave the aircraft at zero speed and altitude. Pilots are equipped with anti-loading suits.

[Alex 241]

Maximum working height: 50000 feet (15240 m)
Minimum Operating Height: Zero
Minimum Operating Speed: Zero
Maximum operating speed: 630 knots of instrument speed

[s1н7т]

British, so ... I wonder if their pins can be forgotten in the catapult? Not upside down on low level "came out"?

[SmacXnumx]

Sorry for the flyers, let the earth rest in peace.

[Poruchik 90]

They could just catapult from a low altitude, hurt, rotation, not disclosure. Rest in peace.

[Andrey77]

Just catapult - about the lantern head. Not to mention the fact that ejection seats and Brazil are incompatible things.

[lelikas]

Memory to all
Climb as high as possible
Losing speed - just to hold on!
Then with your foot on the pedal, to the void
And you can fall, spinning fast,
Spinning corkscrew turns.
Watch like crazy land
Flies to you, dangling the horizon
And control, losing yourself too
Become completely unfree in the sky
Replacing by fall, flight ...
It's not too late: Align the steering wheels!
And the handle away from you in the center,
Stopping the dangerous game
Moments of death
Sheer to go in peak ...
And if you had enough height
And the overload didn't break the farms,
Salvation will be easy
And a safe maneuver in the air
For the right, love this sky!
Valery Aleshkov

[smiths xnumx]

Everlasting memory. May the earth rest in peace. It seems that the "Super Tucano" turboprop aircraft with a maximum speed of 557 km / h (like the fighters of the Second World War) has a reinforced airframe with an elongated fuselage, a more powerful power plant (Pratt-Whitney TVD Canada RT6A-68-1 with a capacity of 1600 liters with a five-blade propeller), a new canopy, cockpit instrumentation using liquid crystal indicators, allowing the use of night vision goggles, a satellite navigation receiver, five external suspension nodes, pressurizing the cabin and protecting it with Kevlar armor barriers, new ejection seats, onboard oxygen equipment with an oxygen generation system, anti-overload suits for pilots and a number of other improvements. And yet. Sorry for the men ... Best regards

[xczszs]

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[fzr1000]

Get out!

[Lopatov]

Clear evidence of the site’s popularity.

[Corsair]

Quote: fzr1000

Get out!

Sounds like GO!

[kostyan77708]

Sorry for the pilots, let the earth rest in peace ... The plane really looks as if from the battlefields of the 2nd World War or the Museum of the History of Aircraft Engineering))) They also say that our people ride junk, shoot, fly ...

[Andrey77]

It's a pity for the pilots, but the plane, to put it mildly, antediluvian:

[Revolver]

On such antediluvian gangs in the woods to drive the very thing. Yes, and the USSR Air Force could also have come in handy to intercept Matthias Rust in 1987. By the way, drugs are often transported on airplanes of about the same class as Rust's Cessna, and hunting for them is one of the tasks of Tucano.

[s1н7т]

And what does not suit you with a helicopter to intercept such goals? It can handle it.

[Revolver]

I did not check the figures, but I think that both the unit price and the operation of such an airplane are several times cheaper than the same "Apache". Note that it is mainly in service with not the richest countries. But now that the rich have started counting their money, this and similar light attack aircraft have good prospects.

[novobranets]

It may not look very modern, but it seems to me that this is what you need to patrol the jungle. The ability to keep speed is not high. Jet planes have a high stall speed, you can slip over a target without even noticing it. The pilots are sorry, peace be upon them.

[Tambov we ...]

Quote: Andrey77

Just eject - about the lantern head

When ejecting, the lantern is first reset, and only then the chair is fired.

[Andrey77]

In theory. But in practice - review the Top Gun (such a film). And crash, and perish ...

[VAF]

Quote: Andrey77

But in practice - review Top Gun

Give a very incorrect example, dear ... speak in practice, and give a link to view Amer’s movie.

In the history of our aviation, there are quite a few cases of death of pilots due to a failure of a lamp or incorrect operation (forced ejection systems) - the front lights go first ....

So here is one example ... "bailout" on the ground, in a parking lot, after starting the engines, checking control ... right before taxiing out ... they checked the emergency ones, released the trigger and ... Ivan Kornev "left" through the lantern, and then from the front cockpit Vanya Laktyushin ..... squadron commander and deputy squadron commander of the 2nd squadron.
Yes, I forgot to write, Mig-29UB (9-51), Smolensk-Severny airfield

[Andrey77]

Sincerely, there are no armchairs in the Brazilian version! Armchairs are for the USA and Canada.

[VAF]

Quote: Andrey77

but in the Brazilian version there are no seats!

Andrei. Same with respect. But you are fundamentally wrong .. there are ejection seats for all Super Tukans ... FOR ALL !!!!!

Especially for you, I picked up a photo BIG and with BIG resolution. so that all questions disappear

[Bugor]

Why didn't the plane please you? A normal attack aircraft for those operations under which it is imprisoned - the fight against unarmored objects such as the "school of rastomaniacs and cocaine producers", as well as caravans of lamas (or who is there in Brazil? Well, not camels, I think), carrying overwhelmingly acquired drugs. What is there to do to the same Su-24, to incinerate the jungle? And this one is both cheap and powerful enough armed. Police stormtrooper :).

[ICT]

Quote: svp67

How could they die on landing? Fell into the Amazon and were eaten by piranhas?

a little higher they said that a lot of things could happen, I think it’s understandable. (You can add a couple of three versions).

yes P.S.

ShturmKGB

to the Amazon and they were eaten by piranhas?

PRANRANIA in the Amazon is the most harmless species.

[Siberian]

ShturmKGB

How could they die on landing? Fell into the Amazon and were eaten by piranhas?

Or maybe both parachutes did not open? It’s even strange.

[094711601]

If such a misfortune happened with us, God forbid anyone, would some practice wit?

[Siberian]

Quote: 094711601

If such a misfortune happened with us, God forbid anyone, would some practice wit?

Kodga people die JOKING NOT WORTH. You're right.

[qx56v8]

A hitherto unknown (In any case to me) board surfaced from the last batch in Borisoglebsk ... Two of the 3 were 50, 53 White. But boat "X" turned out to be 52 White !!!

[solomon]

The plane only in appearance resembles the established stereotypes of the XNUMXnd MV.
In fact, the aircraft meets all modern requirements and is capable of performing combat missions assigned to it. Such aircraft are classified as light attack aircraft and are also called "special operations aircraft".

[lazy]

not the topic, but why did the commander of the Russian Knights die during the bailout, what happened there? who knows?

[VAF]

Quote: lazy

but why did the commander of the Russian Knights die during the bailout, what happened there? who knows?

You would not fiddle with this topic and .. "did not tear your soul" .....
This is a very BIT case, very .....

If only in short. August 16, 9 years preparation for the holiday. the collection after the dissolution of Tkachenko and Kurilenko at spark No. 18, the leader, the slave Melnik at battle No. 18 ... after the tulip they started collecting ... The miller slipped the whole three, jumped forward and abruptly started to slow down and ... with his nozzles hit an overlap from top to bottom on the cab sparky.
The blow fell right into the front cockpit (then on the ground and using the means of the JMC we determined that the blow swept everything from the chair and the headrest and ... in short Igor landed ..... not alive
The rear cockpit is whole, so Kurilenko pulled the handles, the lantern left and then went out by himself, after 0,6 seconds Igor’s chair shot, but it flew to the ground, because. the parachute was no longer there .......

I will not upload photos .. Well, the movie ...

[lazy]

I apologize for touching on this topic. it’s just here that we are talking about catapulted pilots but not survivors, and then too, the earth to them all in peace and eternal memory

[Digston]

Sorry for the pilots. Everlasting memory