In Russia, utilize rocket fuel from Ukraine

Ukraine sent for recycling to the Russian Federation another batch of rocket fuel component - melange of about 750 tons.

As the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the country reported today, the oxidizer was removed from the warehouse of the ground forces of the armed forces of Ukraine in the Odessa region. “In total, a third of the melange stored here was sent to Russia from this warehouse. The poisonous substance in 15 special railway tanks intended for transportation of chemically aggressive liquids was taken to the Russian Federation for further disposal at one of the enterprises of the military-industrial complex near the city of Nizhny Novgorod, ”said Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Yatluk, commander of the military unit. He assured that when loading rail tankers, all necessary safety measures were observed, this allowed to avoid the ingress of hazardous fluids into the environment. The dispatch of melange was observed by representatives of the OSCE, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine and the Russian plant, where fuel will be disposed of. The warehouse in the Lyubashevsky district of the Odessa region contained 3,5 thousand tons of rocket fuel. He began to export 2013 to Russia in early July. In June, Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych promised that this year all the melange would be taken out of the country’s territory, although the government had previously intended to do this before the end of 2012. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, 16,7 thousands of tons of surplus and sub-standard rocket fuel components remained in Ukraine. According to the end of 2012 of the year, about 2,3 thousands of tons of melange and about 150 tons of other hazardous substances are stored in the ground forces rocket fuel warehouse. The removal of melange from Ukraine takes place as part of a joint project with the OSCE. This hazardous component of rocket fuel is disposed of in the Russian Federation by the Sverdlov Plant in Dzerzhinsk, the Biysk Oleum Plant and ZAO Tehnoazot. Melange is a multicomponent mixture of nitric acid, nitric oxide and corrosion inhibitors. This volatile, aggressive, highly toxic and hygroscopic liquid is used as an oxidizing agent for rocket fuel in liquid-fuel rocket engines. Nitric acid-based oxidizers do not burn or explode, but they cause spontaneous combustion of some combustible materials, in particular rocket fuel.

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[experienced]

Melange export from Ukraine is part of a joint project with the OSCE

Surprisingly, two countries that have recently been united need the OSCE to resolve issues, sadness

[svp67]

Quote: seasoned

Surprisingly, two countries that have recently been united need the OSCE to resolve issues, sadness

Here, in addition to everything, as I understand it, financial issues. The OSCE is easier and cheaper to use the equipment available in Russia than to buy new ...

[klimpopov]

Speaking of melange. In our factory, the workshop on its production will be closed for the campaign, and the factory itself is slowly being reduced ... It's kind of sad ...

[Ezhaak]

Quote: klimpopov

Speaking of melange. In our factory, the workshop for its production campaign will be closed

Klim, no matter what is done, all for the better. Believe me. There is no nitrogen, the environment is noticeably improving. Over the past 8-10 years, so many different birds have appeared under my windows. In the city, partridges in winter began to walk under the windows. There is photo evidence!

[klimpopov]

I understand that the environment and so on. Here the fields have stopped plowing and the living creatures in them have bred.
And about the production. Well, what are we going to eat? The plant is a city-forming one, or it was ... Regarding the same "nitrogen", there are technologies and it is possible to "negotiate" with the environment. The question is what they do not want to invest in the long term. The return is long. For businessmen and not breeders. So they squeeze out the last of the equipment of the 70s. So with PVS, too, everything is in limbo, the equipment is old, there is no replacement, that is, there is but expensive (with their profit). And what are we going to do without methanol? Melamine is a separate topic, there you can't say without laughing through tears. Even when they started building it, my father said "there will be no business" ... So the plant is heading towards a slow closure. Re-equipment of production is out of the question. So far, there are no conversations only on nitroamofosk and the 18th is not eternal ...
And another important factor, we are almost the only city where 99% of the population are Russians and many workers, but the situation is constantly changing. Without production, the Russians have nothing to do here. This is already my IMHO

[Vlad_Mir]

The OSCE seems to be paying the costs.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Must be taken out! They’ll sell it to the left ..

[Ezhaak]

Quote: MIKHAN

Must be taken out! They’ll sell it to the left ..

Question. Why does Russia have so much oxidizing agent? There it is clearly more than 10 thousand tons. And all this Ukraine crushed under itself when parting with Russia. From greed. For me, so let them suffer. There was a proposal on their own to utilize that melange, but the Russians offered a cheaper option. The government decided to save. Now in Ukraine they are worried: Well, how is the tank on the way, the other will lose weight, what will happen to Ukraine?

[zmey_gadukin]

Quote: Hedgehog

Why does Russia have so much oxidizing agent?

for disposal
or do not read the article?

[Ezhaak]

A forum to read is not fate? This oxidizer of Russia is not needed. Let Ukraine do it itself. Greedy, grabbed, yourself and understand.

[Alexander D.]

Quote: Hedgehog

A forum to read is not fate? This oxidizer of Russia is not needed. Let Ukraine do it itself. Greedy, grabbed, yourself and understand.

Russia declared itself the assignee of the USSR. This melange is a legacy of the USSR - TAKE IT!

[svp67]

Quote: Alexander D.

Russia declared itself the assignee of the USSR. This melange is a legacy of the USSR - TAKE IT!

And do not be afraid that the HERITAGE list can be SIGNIFICANTLY expanded and claimed to be returned free of charge ... Let's start with the unfinished cruiser Admiral of the Fleet Lobov

[VseDoFeNi]

And, in fact, Crimea must be remembered.

[svp67]

Quote: MIKHAN

Must be taken out! They’ll sell it to the left ..

Right. We need to lead this business. We take the "milange" and quietly, quietly, but smartly, we send it to the DPRK, they are experimenting with a similar fuel there ...

[olegff68]

All rubbish is brought to us, from some radioactive waste, from others now this melange. Questions involuntarily arise: 1) whether after this disposal there will not be recyclable components that are simply rolled up in barrels and buried in vast expanses, are there any threats to the ecology of our country from this recycling; 2) do we and our country generally need this ??? they pay for it ??? (Ukraine is unlikely), is there any benefit to the country from this ???

[El13]

The oxidizing agent is not very scary, if it is agreed that UDMH (heptyl, fuel) will be disposed of, then it will be shitty ... although Ukraine itself can hardly do anything without it ...

[Algor73]

The OSCE representatives are present not because Ukraine and Russia cannot agree, but because they make sure that the fuel has been removed, that they have not been deceived, and that the money has not been stolen.

[Max otto]

And on the tank man without a gas mask stands - a scumbag. Oh, why are we like that

[TS3sta3]

Well, the person wanted to smoke, what is it?

[Wedmak]

Why dispose of it? What can not be used?

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Wedmak

What can not be used?

Can. But where is so much oxidizer, if Ukraine almost does not produce missiles, storage tanks are gradually becoming unusable, and Russia does not use this fuel very much. At the same time, new technologies are being worked out, with safer fuel. Then Geyropa is shaking for his butt. How would she get the "fox's tail" on occasion

[Niecke]

as far as I know, EVERYTHING! fuel components of rockets-Poison !!! the same melange-1 drop per 100 cubic meters of air-death-worse than mustard gas !!!

[Locksmith]

How poor we lived, then we’ll poison a plaque in the oxidizer, or some crap like a printed circuit board, it’s essentially nitric acid, very strong, any volatile acids are inhaled when inhaled vapors are toxic and cause pulmonary edema, the same acetic acid, but they are far from mustard gas

[xczszs]

The other day, I accidentally stumbled upon a site for checking fines in the traffic police, and by the way there you can dispute and pay online. For example, for 2 days I challenged 3 fines for a total of about 17 rubles. , try it yourself, here is the link to the service - http://krz.ch/mbaza

[VVooVVaa]

But the processed melange is an excellent nitrogen fertilizer. So, Russia will report to Europe as well, utilized + wheat will give more crop!

[kind]

I know this warehouse near Odessa, this is Limanskoe. There were stored fuel components for the 8K14 missiles, the 9P117 Elbrus missile system, according to the NATO classification "SKAD"

[Gromily4]

Quote: olegff68

All rubbish is brought to us, from some radioactive waste, from others now this melange. Questions involuntarily arise: 1) whether after this disposal there will not be recyclable components that are simply rolled up in barrels and buried in vast expanses, are there any threats to the ecology of our country from this recycling; 2) do we and our country generally need this ??? they pay for it ??? (Ukraine is unlikely), is there any benefit to the country from this ???

They don’t carry rubbish to us.
Regarding radioactive waste, they are not being brought to us, but SNF (spent nuclear fuel). And since we can process it, we end up with fuel for thermal neutron reactors, and depleted uranium for fast neutron reactors. A certain amount of radioactive waste is burned, something vitrifies and is buried. And we are not martrasniks, they are radioactive waste in liquid form into barrels and to the bottom of the ocean, or where they store it all. And the barrels are rusting and this shit is flowing the hell knows where. We have all that kindness in glass, in cement, and in high-strength barrels.
We are one of the countries, probably the only country that will soon have a closed nuclear cycle.
Americans are scattered by a valuable resource depleted in uranium. And we do not use it for military purposes, tungsten is used.
There is such a rule, a country that sells fuel rods takes them after they go out of service.

[Zomanus]

Exported and excellent. I would still be fucked from Ukraine. All defense KB in full force ...

[Alexander D.]

Quote: Zomanus

Exported and excellent. I would still be fucked from Ukraine. All defense KB in full force ...

After the collapse of the USSR, you had more design bureaus than in the other union republics combined. And then half managed to pohh.e.r.i.t. !!!

[Siberian]

Quote: niecke

as far as I know, EVERYTHING! fuel components of rockets-Poison !!! the same melange-1 drop per 100 cubic meters of air-death-worse than mustard gas !!!

In China, all this was heated to sell. Stoves in the villages to heat. They still take nothing. (Of course, this is not a good joke, but it really is.) They poison us with their chemical tomatoes and cucumbers. And at the same time they smile.

[zennon]

Melange, also known as IRFNA (Inhibited Red Fuming Nitric Acid), is a complex mixture of extremely active chemicals; it easily evaporates, is highly toxic, hygroscopic and consists of concentrated nitric acid, nitrogen tetraoxide and various additives.
Pairs of melange - orange color. When inhaled, the larynx and lungs literally burn out. Melange is a concentrated nitric acid with amyl dissolved in it. Melange is one of the components of rocket fuel. Ukraine inherited 16339.36 tons of melange. Now the weight is stored in warehouses in six regions. In Vinnitsa -1016 tons, Kiev - 1520.99, Ivano-Frankivsk - 2267,054 tons, in Lvov - 3101,128 tons, Odessa - 3264,096. Ukraine, lacking sufficient funds and technological capabilities for recycling and melange, submitted an application to the OSCE in 2004. On March 5, 2008, the Ukrainian side signed a memorandum of understanding between the Cabinet of Ministers and the OSCE regarding the disposal of stocks of melange. On August 13, 2009, the OSCE tender for the disposal of 3 thousand tons of melange was completed. On September 16, 2009, during a working visit to Kiev, OSCE Secretary General M. Brichambaut, a contract was signed for the implementation of this project, and on November 13, the first tank of melange began to be pumped from a warehouse in Vinnitsa region - this is Kalinovka. According to the deputy director of the Tekhnoazot enterprise, the tanks with melange will arrive in Russia to their destination in 10 days. The money for recycling is allocated by the OSCE, Ukraine pays nothing. Melange will be processed into nitric acid and industrial explosives. Ukraine will export 360 tons of liquid rocket fuel components to Russia each month, Defense Minister Mikhail Yezhel said. Two federal treasury enterprises of the Russian Federation utilize the dangerous component of rocket fuel: Sverdlov Plant in Dzerzhinsk and Biysk Oleum Plant.
It is no longer a secret that rocket fuel has become the object of transnational shadow operations. One of the channels leads in the direction of Kazakhstan, others in the direction of the Caucasus and the Middle East. Moldovan rocket fuel also became the object of such operations. It has been reliably established that out of 28462 kg of Samina, only 24100 kg are destroyed in violation of environmental safety. It has not yet been possible to establish the position of 4362 kg of Samina ...
Samin - a highly effective fuel consisting of triethylamine and xylidine in a ratio of 1: 1. Triethylamine (C2H5) 3N Toxic, clear yellowish liquid with an unpleasant pungent odor. It is a flammable combustible component that can ignite due to heat, sparks or flame. Vapors are heavier than air and form explosive mixtures in combination with air. Upon contact with concentrated acids, a violent reaction occurs. Contact with triethylamine has a mainly local effect. Eye contact causes severe burns. When penetrated through clothing, triethylamine also causes skin burns. It is a carcinogen (skin), causes short-term pain in the eyes; vapors irritate the nose, throat, lungs and cause coughing, choking, and breathing difficulties.

[faint27]

Missile fuel from Ukraine, radioactive waste from US nuclear power plants, maybe enough to turn the Russian Earth into a garbage dump?

[Gromily4]

This is what kind of radioactive waste from US nuclear power plants, the first time I heard about it.

[faint27]

Here read http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/628716/

[faint27]

but about the waste from Europe http://www.svoboda.org/content/article/395144.html

[Gromily4]

If a person is a sucker and is not taught to think with his brain, then he begins to panic, which I am observing here.
Have you ever wondered why everyone is making such a cry, although again we are brought NOT WASTE, but WASTE NUCLEAR FUEL. NAFIGA we build fast neutron reactors. That is, if we stop driving oil west and leave it for our chemical enterprises, then we will generate energy from reactors, the fuel of which will be valuable isotopes extracted from that SNF. And when those suckers run out of fissile materials, WE will sell them for BIG MONEY and energy from OUR nuclear power plants and the fuel that we will produce. A closed nuclear cycle, read if you are not banned in Google.
And the fact that in those articles I do not see the rational, but only the panic that is not substantiated by anything.
Again, they raise the green butch, but everything is clear with them, they are the western pacifier, especially the Amer. That was a lot of questions, and why they did not yell when the northern furry animal came into the waters of the Gulf of Mexico, it is so clear that this is a problem for the mother, which means that it does not concern us.
Stop the panic and start thinking. Uranium is not enough for a long time, and now they are thinking about what to do, and the fact that we will get fuel and other valuable raw materials from spent nuclear fuel gives us an advantage in the future. And you need to think about him now.

[faint27]

Bury nuclear fuel in your yard, and then talk about suckers and alarmists.

[Iraclius]

The article has a strange phrase -

batch of rocket fuel component - melange

.
There is rocket fuel, for example, TM-185. There is a rocket oxidizer - for example, a family of nitric acid of various brands. All together is rocket fuel.
I can’t imagine how nitrogen fertilizer is made of it, because the melange contains toxic additives.
I remember that we were tortured to neutralize the cubes of three non-codnets of this hellish slurry with ammonium hydroxide. "Fox tails" were - you will admire!

[zennon]

How to make nitrogen fertilizer out of it - I can’t imagine,

So I can’t imagine why you were suddenly talking about nitrogen fertilizer. But here I’ve written earlier (zennon at 15:27):

Melange is processed into nitric acid and industrial explosives.

Check out ...

[solomon]

There would have been such a danger, they would not have brought it.
As for the OSCE, they would not mind once again sniffing something, exploring it.

[Siberian]

Why shouldn’t they recycle this waste themselves? There, the population will arrange such meetings with posters.

[zennon]

Why shouldn’t they recycle this waste themselves?

Take the trouble to read the comments above. I wrote:

Ukraine, lacking sufficient means and technological capabilities for recycling and melange, back in 2004, filed an application with the OSCE. On March 5, 2008, the Ukrainian side signed a memorandum of understanding between the Cabinet and the OSCE regarding the disposal of stocks of melange.

In my opinion everything is very clear ...

[Lecha57]

Of course, it’s better to recycle into something you need than to dispose of or throw it away.

[Betahon]

I heard that it seems that rocket fuel was added to the rocker earlier for greater power ... Maybe that's why Smerdyukov & So. and decided to destroy it for their own benefit ....

[APASUS]

Quote: Vlad_Mir

The OSCE seems to be paying the costs.

The OSCE apparently also exerts political pressure, as in Ukraine’s nuclear weapons. The West is easier to negotiate with Russia than to search for rocket fuel stocks throughout the former USSR. The West does not want Ukraine to trade fuel components from poverty.
After all, the Americans paid for the cutting of our submarines, and these pay for the disarmament of Ukraine.

[Aryan]

Quote: seasoned

Melange export from Ukraine is part of a joint project with the OSCE

Surprisingly, two countries that have recently been united need the OSCE to resolve issues, sadness

not two but also Moldova
there was also one problem with the disposal of fuels
but NATO squeezed our politicians' hands in one place and became puppeteers
"Nothing inconspicuous village in the suburb of Chisinau. In 2002, it became the site of tragedy and death of more than 700 residents of the Ialoveni district. An odious crime of the democratic era of Moldova, is still classified and is hiding from the world community and its own people."

here more
http://www.patriotism.md/?p=8286

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Alexander D.

This melange is a legacy of the USSR - TAKE IT!

More than twenty years ago, Ukraine got a train with apples. All Ukrainians could not eat them, but they bit them. Today, these apples began to deteriorate. And Ukrainians like Alexander D shout: TAKE!
And what did your fathers not want to give earlier? They knew that they’ll get stuck in the throat!
The ships that were built in Ukraine should have been given to Russia, as the legal successor, sold unfinished right and left. Although the metal was paid for by the USSR, the work of shipbuilders paid for by the USSR, the shipbuilding yards of the entire USSR were built by Ukraine. Why didn’t you give away the sawn planes? Greed prevented. I won’t eat, so I bite.