Chinese combat lasers and laser rifles

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The Chinese defense industry, developing the traditional directions for the armed forces, also seeks to engage in promising projects. Back in the eighties of the last century, it began work on the development of advanced weapons designed to destroy optical devices and organs of vision of the enemy with the help of a laser beam. For obvious reasons, most of the information on this topic is closed, but some of the information from time to time gets into free access. Based on these data, there are a variety of assumptions regarding the technologies used, applications and prospects. weapons such a class.

The lack of official information does not prevent specialists and weapons lovers from drawing appropriate conclusions and leading discussions. The strange situation with some kind of new laser “rifles” or similar systems is aggravated by the fact that previously such systems were already in service with some Chinese power units. However, due to the nature of the work, the old Chinese-made laser systems fell under international conventions and were banned. According to official data, China has completely abandoned the use of already created and promising laser weapons, the action of which is contrary to the UN convention, which entered into force in the 1995 year.

The ZM-87 combat laser became the subject of numerous disputes, and then a ban. This weapon, despite the official Beijing statements about the cessation of operation, still appears from time to time in controversial the news and therefore is the subject of controversy. The main premise for controversy is the secrecy that covers most of the parties to this project. Very little is known about the ZM-87 project. There is information about the approximate time of development of this type of weapon: it appeared at the very end of the eighties and for several years was a secret. For the first time, the ZM-87 was shown to the general public only at international arms exhibitions in 1995, i.e. already during the development and signing of banning international documents. Probably, the Chinese military and scientists decided to seize the moment and show the weapons that would soon have to be written off and destroyed.

As can be seen from the few available images, the Chinese system ZM-87 outwardly resembled a heavy machine gun. On the machine-tripod placed the main unit with a laser and sighting devices. The complex also included batteries, allocated in a separate module. According to some sources, the ZM-87 could be connected to the power grids of armored vehicles or ships. The laser block of the weapon weighed about 35 kilograms. Presumably the neodymium laser with a power of 15 milliwatts in combat mode gave five pulses per second. According to reports, these characteristics allowed the ZM-87 to cause the enemy a temporary loss of vision at a distance of about 10 kilometers. At distances of about 3-5 km (depending on the mode of operation of the laser), irreversible damage to the retina of the eye was possible. Also, this combat laser system could be used to destroy or destroy the optical systems of enemy machines, including thermal imagers.

According to official Chinese information, the production and operation of laser weapons such as the ZM-87 completely stopped several years after the entry into force of the prohibition documents. During production, the defense industry managed to assemble 22 units of such complexes. The distribution of these weapons by units of the armed forces and special services remains a mystery. Even after the official decommissioning, China did not disclose such information. Perhaps it was this secrecy, which was all the time surrounding a promising project, which caused the appearance of numerous rumors of various kinds.

Perhaps the most famous incident in which the ZM-87 laser system was supposedly used was the events of April 1997 of the year near the territorial waters of the United States and Canada. The Canadian Coast Guard noticed that the cargo ship’s antennas have an unusual configuration. Suspected ship scout ship, Canadians and Americans sent him a plane with photographic equipment. The task of the pilots was shooting a suspicious vessel. The result of this photographing, according to some sources, was burns of the retina in two crew members of a coast guard aircraft. The version, according to which Chinese-made laser weapons were on board, quickly appeared. Soon the ship was searched, but no trace of the ZM-87 or similar systems was ever found.

Later, the ZM-87 combat laser was repeatedly mentioned in the context of various incidents, but direct evidence of its use was never provided. It is possible that the blinding laser weapon was a project that had great prospects, but was closed due to the reluctance to have problems with the international community. However, the achievements obtained during the creation of ZM-87, are not lost. In the middle of the two thousandth, the first images of the new design began to appear.

At this time, the Chinese defense industry has created a laser weapon, suitable for use without additional funds like a machine. The new "laser rifle" is fully consistent with the chosen name. This laser system is made in a compact case, the shape of which resembles small arms bullpup schemes. A small interchangeable magazine, like rifles or machine guns of this layout, is placed in the bay in the butt of a laser weapon. Thus, the new model of the "laser rifle" is much more convenient to handle compared to the old type of ZM-87. A new weapon is equipped with an open or telescopic sight (for "shooting" over long distances). In addition, in the existing photos of the complex there is a certain expanding nozzle. Its purpose is unknown, but there are several versions. For example, some experts believe that inside this nozzle there is a group of diverging light guides, and the device itself is intended to separate the light flux and "shoot" at large clusters of enemy personnel.

Chinese combat lasers and laser rifles




There is information about the adoption of a new "laser rifle" for the armament of the power structures of China. From this it follows that the non-lethal laser weapons of the new model can be used also to suppress riots. Based on this fact, you can make some assumptions about the characteristics of the weapon. Probably, the power of the emitter is designed in such a way that when operating at distances of up to several tens of meters the laser beam does not cause irreparable damage to the eyes of people who have come under fire. At the same time, the beam must be powerful enough to cause temporary blinding or at least discomfort. The ability to cause fatal damage, apparently, is not provided. This assumption is supported by the absence of any switches or regulators on the body of the new “laser rifle”.

Regardless of the characteristics of a particular sample of laser weapons, you can make the most important conclusion. China is actively engaged in the direction of combat lasers and does not seem to be going to leave it. Despite the difficulties of a legal or technical nature, the creation of new systems continues. So, a few years ago, information and a few photos of a new laser weapon made in a pistol form factor appeared. The year of creation, characteristics and intended uses of this sample remain unknown. However, by the very fact of his existence he can tell a lot about the plans of Chinese scientists and the military.


On the materials of the sites:
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http://defense-update.com/
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  1. Constantine
    +2
    14 August 2013 08: 21
    Interesting article, thanks! ) By and large, for me this is a Chinese weapon - a discovery smile
  2. 0
    14 August 2013 09: 02
    interesting topic, what is our thread doing? or also by agreement nothing ...
    1. +1
      14 August 2013 16: 57
      Something similar happened in our army in the late eighties and was called a "laser rangefinder", the purpose - shooting at optics
      1. vkrav
        +2
        15 August 2013 02: 32
        I don’t know about optics, but a crow with 500 meters fell :).
        1. +3
          15 August 2013 09: 48
          They have dazzling lasers burning optics on new tanks.
  3. 0
    14 August 2013 09: 59
    They probably copied a thread from someone again ... copying in their manner
  4. +18
    14 August 2013 10: 06
    In the second photo, where the fighter is standing with a laser rifle, a laser sword is needed instead of a bayonet-knife. And it’s not harmonious somehow.
  5. +5
    14 August 2013 10: 23
    Interesting article. Immediately "Erolash" remembered ... and here are the batteries for you (and gives 2 suitcases to the clock) laughing And it was declassified, probably because there are already Chinese laser "pointers" that are used to blind planes. And in general, this is a hit of the year after mass use in Egypt. They can also burn out chaff, but the size is incomparably smaller!
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  7. 0
    14 August 2013 10: 29
    We had such tanks
  8. +5
    14 August 2013 10: 37
    such heavy batteries can kill without lasers laughing
  9. +1
    14 August 2013 10: 45
    Quote: Nester
    In the second photo, where the fighter is standing with a laser rifle, a laser sword is needed instead of a bayonet-knife. And it’s not harmonious somehow.

    The Jedi sword will be just in place!))
  10. yan
    +1
    14 August 2013 11: 02
    Quietly quietly, inconspicuously, China has reached the highest technology. And, if you have declassified, there is something more powerful most likely.
    1. +2
      14 August 2013 16: 06
      Yeah, you generally used Chinese technology, even from the one for shsha, huh ??
      So, in my opinion, a mallard duck of clean water (or dirty from the Yellow River)
  11. MAG
    +2
    14 August 2013 11: 06
    I have glasses for metal cutting with a laser. Will they save my eyes? Who in the subject answer.
    1. +2
      14 August 2013 16: 26
      If, they are not Chinese
    2. +1
      14 August 2013 18: 36
      I think even high-quality sun glasses should help.
    3. 0
      15 August 2013 19: 35
      They will not help. This is a dishonest weapon.

      True our art. rangefinders can burn eyes no worse.
  12. ed65b
    +6
    14 August 2013 11: 15
    The Brothers Grimm have a rest from the Chinese storytellers. I haven’t read such crap for a long time laughing
  13. +1
    14 August 2013 11: 18
    China is slowly but surely becoming a manufacturer of high-tech weapons from the category of "piu-piu".
    There was information that on Chinese tanks of the latest modifications laser systems were installed for detecting and incapacitating enemy optical devices. The question is whether it is planned to install any protection against this effect on the optical devices of our armored vehicles.
  14. vasily1990
    +1
    14 August 2013 11: 33
    What a bottle in the barrel of a laser rifle
  15. Akim
    +2
    14 August 2013 11: 34
    Quote: Aryan
    such heavy batteries can kill without lasers


    Batteries are optional. You can have a gas cartridge, but such things are very dangerous, although you can turn gases into crystals. Of course, the combat effect of such a laser is low, but it’s good for the eyes to hit the optics, night vision devices.
    1. 0
      15 August 2013 19: 37
      Quote: Akim
      Of course, the combat effect of such a laser is low, but it’s good for the eyes to hit the optics, night vision devices.


      Moreover, they are now being put on Chinese tanks to protect BM from ATGM operators.
  16. +4
    14 August 2013 11: 55
    Quote: vasiliy1990
    What a bottle in the barrel of a laser rifle


    silencer system Danila Bagrova
  17. +3
    14 August 2013 14: 20
    According to the presented photo with a laser on a tripod, the question is:
    I understand that the laser beam will burn the retina. But you still have to get into the eye. At a distance of 500-1000 meters, and even 100 meters, how was it planned to get into such a small target as the pupil of the eye? Especially for a moving object.
    The photo does not show any sighting devices or machine guns, much less drives for automatic guidance. "Shooting" in the Rambo style from the hip or fanning from the machine will be laughable by the results. Moreover, considering that more powerful lasers generate a beam often in the invisible part of the spectrum.
    The same goes for the rifle.
    Who in the subject, clarify?
    1. 0
      14 August 2013 15: 50
      According to some sources, the result of this photograph was retinal burns in two crew members of the coast guard aircraft.

      Judging by this phrase, a combat laser does not function as a laser.
      I understand that the beam must be wide enough: to effectively shoot shine on the squares.
      1. +2
        14 August 2013 17: 13
        if you drive a barrel quickly enough around the target area, then it will fly to someone. On this approximately principle our anti-optical installation worked. she scanned the area with a beam of small fusion, and when she received it she flashed at the same point with all her might. optics - the end, the observer - how unlucky belay
  18. biglow
    0
    14 August 2013 15: 56
    maybe the Chinese are once again promoting a non-existent device. Something is not heard about the achievements of the Chinese in the field of lasers. China does not seem to do machines for laser cutting of metals, but buys from the Koreans
  19. vitek1233
    +1
    14 August 2013 15: 57
    laser rifles Jedi swords and also Chinese starships with attack aircraft and the Chinese lord of the Sith laughing
  20. 0
    14 August 2013 16: 42
    The Chinese have so far simple cars r ... but r .... nom. AL-31 F can not copy. What are lasers? While this is not serious.
    1. +1
      14 August 2013 17: 16
      but in vain. they have recently raised the quality of weapons seriously, in any case hunting and pneumatic. They quickly learn and underestimate it in any way.
      1. +1
        14 August 2013 17: 40
        But their machines, g ... but.
    2. +2
      14 August 2013 19: 42
      Quote: fzr1000
      The Chinese have so far simple cars r ... but r .... nom. AL-31 F can not copy. What are lasers? While this is not serious.


      Here is also Hitler thinking about our technology ...

      But the prospects for such technology are very large. Both the optics of spy satellites and drones, and the optics of robotic, self-guided weapons will not complain about spoiled vision.

      Tricky question.
      Any firearms, weapons are "human", and the laser is inhuman. burns the retina without death. How to understand?
      Most likely, the West at that time had no corresponding developments. Therefore, as always, when they have an effective, laser weapon, there will be a usual way out of treaties that no longer correspond to the threats to peace.
    3. 0
      15 August 2013 03: 25
      it’s just in vain. no matter what, there wouldn’t be any more, and Chinese cars on our streets are becoming more and more.
  21. -1
    14 August 2013 18: 35
    If these photos are not a hoax, then the "Chinese brothers" have rubbed their noses for us and the Americans. Remembering how a large steamer with a special power turbine worked at the Black Sea Fleet as a "laser pilot" with varying success, here is a breakthrough!
    1. +2
      14 August 2013 20: 05
      Quote: xomaNN
      If these photos are not a hoax, then the "Chinese brothers" have rubbed their noses for us and the Americans. Remembering how a large steamer with a special power turbine worked at the Black Sea Fleet as a "laser pilot" with varying success, here is a breakthrough!

      Oh, I beg you - we had this breakthrough 30 years ago - and much more powerful. Google things like "Stiletto" and "Compression" at your leisure, below are their photos ...

      this is a stylet

      but this compression
      as far as I know - Compression could burn optics from several tens of kilometers, but the direction was considered unpromising and closed (extremely dependent on weather conditions, only direct fire is possible) agree to the Chinese pistols to this level as far as we do before China lol ...
  22. +1
    14 August 2013 21: 35
    Tales of Chinese storytellers laughing
  23. 0
    14 August 2013 23: 46
    Quote: abrakadabre
    According to the presented photo with a laser on a tripod, the question is:
    I understand that the laser beam will burn the retina. But you still have to get into the eye. At a distance of 500-1000 meters, and even 100 meters, how was it planned to get into such a small target as the pupil of the eye? Especially for a moving object.
    The photo does not show any sighting devices or machine guns, much less drives for automatic guidance. "Shooting" in the Rambo style from the hip or fanning from the machine will be laughable by the results. Moreover, considering that more powerful lasers generate a beam often in the invisible part of the spectrum.
    The same goes for the rifle.
    Who in the subject, clarify?

    there is an article about a beating geyts, when he bought an old dvdrezak on an ebay and with one coder drew a program "perimeter" for the destruction of mosquitoes with lazir - the cost of their whole thought is a pound of bucks
    the laser fired hundreds of mosquitoes in a minute, and then who needs such unmanned bloodsuckers?
    but for your attention, five death stars as a gift wassat
  24. georg737577
    +1
    15 August 2013 00: 22
    Each laser "shot" from such a rifle with the help of optical scanning systems (something similar has long been used in high-speed filming, for example) can be converted from a "point prick" to an area-specific defeat, when a beam in a pulse at a distance of, say, 1500 meters "processes" the area 30x30 cm, with a power quite sufficient for irreversible loss of vision from the enemy. It is clear that a soldier suddenly blinded in the middle of a battle is worse than a killed one, given the psychological factor of influence. In addition, the weapon is silent and the beam is invisible. Personally, I would not refuse such a tool ...
  25. vkrav
    0
    15 August 2013 02: 42
    Sic transit completely gloria mundi ... They forgot their own and admire the Chinese attempts ... Watch at your leisure the film Lords of the Ray:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc2bTsI3wfQ