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Syria is not for sale

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Syria is not for sale Yesterday, the world's media vividly covered information about the alleged "deal" between Saudi Arabia and Russia. The information originated from anonymous sources, "Reuters" and went to roam on the Internet. It was reported that Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the chief intelligence officer of Saudi Arabia, allegedly offered to comrade Putin 15 billion dollars for weapon and promised that the monarchies of the Persian Gulf would not create competitive interference with the export of Russian gas to Europe. And Russia, in exchange for such generous promises, will have to stop vetoing resolutions on Syria in the UN Security Council. It was described in detail yesterday at "Military Review".


A day passed since the explosion of the “information bomb”. Fragments scattered, but neither killed nor wounded. Official denial neither from Russia nor from Saudi Arabia followed. There was, of course, no evidence.

As reported by the Syrian Agency SANAVitaly Naumkin, head of the Center for Arab Studies at the Institute of Oriental Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences, questioned the press that Saudi Arabia had offered the Russian Federation a deal to buy 15 weapons worth billions of dollars in exchange for changing Russia's position on Syria.

“It looks like trade, it is unprecedented to do such transactions,” the expert noted. - Negotiations were underway, but this option is not possible, because here we are talking about the Russian side about a long, reasoned enough and reasonable, supported by the position. The fact that it will be exchanged for a deal is very doubtful. ”

Comrade Naumkin added that there were precedents when certain agreements were reached with Saudi Arabia, but the Saudi side did not fulfill them.

As noted by newsru.com, rumors about the deal proposed by Saudi Arabia have not been confirmed. Nevertheless, Western media are confident that the proposal to Vladimir Putin was received.

As an unnamed high-ranking source in the field of military-technical cooperation said, Russian arms exporters did not receive offers from Saudi Arabia to buy weapons. "We do not know anything about such intentions of the Saudi side", - quotes the source of the RIA "News».

But the British newspaper «The Times» is sure of the opposite. According to some Middle Eastern sources, Saudi Arabia definitely offered Russia a large sum for the supply of weapons in exchange for ending relations with Assad. The Arabian state promised and not to compete with Russia in gas supplies to Europe. Prince Bandar bin Sultan supposedly made such proposals, being in Moscow at the end of last month.

However, Moscow is unlikely to change its position on Syria. Vladimir Sazhin, an expert at the Institute of Oriental Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences, says: “I don’t think that Russia will change its principled position in exchange for not entirely proven future deals.”

According to France Press, citing diplomatic sources, Russia has rejected a proposal by Saudi Arabia to conclude a deal involving Moscow’s refusal to support Damascus at the UN. According to a Syrian source agency, the Saudis did not take into account that Moscow has other interests in the region than financial ones, notes "Lenta.ru".

As France-Press sources told, Prince Bandar tried to explain to President Putin that there was only one way out of the current situation in Syria - the use of force. President Assad will be removed from power. The Saudi curator of foreign policy and intelligence services made it clear to the Russian partners that there would no longer be peace talks: the Syrian opposition would not participate in them.

“In this regard, Bandar asked Russia not to hinder the adoption of resolutions by the UN Security Council authorizing increased pressure on Assad. In exchange, he promised several preferences. Firstly, to help strengthen the influence of the Russian Federation in the Middle East region, from which the Americans are gradually leaving. Secondly, to ensure that under the new government Syria will not become the base for training Islamist militants going to fight in the North Caucasus. Thirdly, Bandar promised not to allow the construction of pipelines from the Persian Gulf, through which cheap hydrocarbons would go to Europe through Syrian territory, which could shake Russia's position on the European oil and gas market. And fourth, the prince offered to buy 15 billions of dollars worth of weapons in Russia. ”


"The Business Standard" referring to France-Press, notes that in 2009, Syrian President B. Assad refused to sign an agreement with Qatar on the construction of land pipelines from the Persian Gulf to Europe through Syria. Assad rejected the proposal in order to protect the interests of his ally Russia, which supplies natural gas to Europe.

The publication cites the words of an unnamed Syrian politician (a diplomat with contacts in Moscow). This man said: "President Putin listened politely to the interlocutor and let him know that his country will not change its strategy."

Responding to a question about the meeting of Bandar and Putin, the Syrian diplomat said: “As it happened before with Qatar and Lavrov (at the talks), Saudi Arabia believes that politics is a simple matter of buying people or countries.” He added that the Saudis do not understand: Russia is a major power, and it conducts politics differently. Syria and Russia, the diplomat noted, "have close ties for more than half a century in all areas, and the Saudi rials will not change this fact."

Arabamericannews.com writes with irony that theoretically, from now on, the Syrian opposition militants are subordinate to one commander: the Saudi prince Bandar bin Sultan. The man, previously involved in the “unsuccessful military adventure” in Beirut, today claims to change the balance of power in Syria.

Bandar is in itself, the newspaper notes, - "the problem for Saudi Arabia." Unlike Riyadh’s calm diplomacy, this prince has very high expectations, nothing to do with reality.

Bin Sultan’s latest military experience took place in Lebanon. After the 2006 events of the year (meaning the Lebanese-Israeli crisis), Prince Bandar convinced the Saudi king to finance the militia for Saad Hariri. There is evidence that Bandar spent more than $ 200 million to create paramilitary forces, which suffered, in May, 2008, a catastrophic defeat - in less than 20 hours.

As for Syria, then here Bandar bin Sultan did not deviate from his usual approach. He set the bar of his expectations too high. According to some people who have met him in recent weeks, he now does not see the question more important than the Syrian one.

Prince Bandar argues that it will take up to eight months to arm and consolidate the rebels and tilt the scales on the Syrian battlefield in favor of the opposition. Bandar does not say that he is going to drastically change the balance of forces; No, he only needs to overthrow the "Syrian regime." At the same time, Bandar complains that the weapon he sends to the opposition often ends up in the hands of al-Qaida fighters.

Iranian channel Press TV cites the opinion of Professor Rodney Shakespeare, in a comment about the "deal" who called the Saudis simply bankrupt - in moral and political terms.

The strange thing, the professor noted, is that this state goes to friends with the United States - a country that is also a moral and political bankrupt (the United States, in addition, is also a financial bankrupt). The saying “fisherman sees from afar” is not fully applicable here, because there is one difference between the United States and Saudi Arabia.

Americans can at least talk about freedom and democracy (while in fact they support autocracy, lead wars and kill every day), but the Saudis have nothing to talk about. They have no vision, no principle, no idea - no foundation. Saudi Arabia is based on the whip and the sword, and weapons are supported by totalitarianism. And this state is doing the only thing that rich people who live outside of morality always do: they offer money to make others do what they want.

The professor notes that Prince Bandar is a strong supporter of the United States and Zionism, and he makes it clear that with the fall of Assad, Syria will be "completely" in the hands of the Saudis. The victory of the opposition in Syria is the bloody dream of the Saudi prince ...

To summarize The Russian and Saudi authorities did not confirm and did not refute the initial report of Reuters on a proposed $ 15 billion “deal”. Today, the media are full of all sorts of guesses about what was and was not.

But in one, almost all experts agree: Russia will not “give in” Assad to the Saudis and the West.

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
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  1. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 9 August 2013 15: 19
    29
    According to newsru.com, the rumors surrounding the proposed Saudi Arabia deal were not confirmed.

    The stump is clear that this is one of the episodes of the information war against Russia, which "our" media were happy to replicate


    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 9 August 2013 15: 27
      10
      Well, someone started a rumor, and will walk on all sites.!
      1. Papakiko
        Papakiko 9 August 2013 15: 35
        +2
        Quote: xetai9977
        Well, someone started a rumor, and will walk on all sites.!

        Vernyak!
        And Oleg picked up this blotter too.
    2. alone
      alone 9 August 2013 15: 29
      20
      it’s not an information war. forgot how a hunchbacked bear sold green gadgets for green candy wrappers for less than 15 billion, or how did the EBN and his team destroy everything that the misha didn’t have time to kill? We just decided to try the old trick, which once worked !!
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 9 August 2013 15: 31
        13
        Quote: lonely
        just decided to try the old trick, which once worked !!

        Putin compare with the hunchback? Is it not noticeable even for the Arabs?
        1. alone
          alone 9 August 2013 15: 47
          +3
          the principle worked: what if it passes))) agree, after all, it happened once.
          1. Stiletto
            Stiletto 9 August 2013 16: 30
            21
            A man is studying a bill from a car service:
            So, oil change, yeah, filters, candles, well, yes, but ... here! Beloved! What is this point here: "Ride" with a price tag of $ 300?
            Where? Ah, this one ... well, cross out. Not a ride.
          2. Alone
            Alone 9 August 2013 18: 17
            +2
            It happened not once, but twice. They themselves wrote, EBN with a hunchback.
          3. Cynic
            Cynic 9 August 2013 19: 27
            +1
            Quote: lonely
            the principle worked: what if it passes

            No, here, by the principle of _ Spoons were found, but the sediment remained!
          4. avdkrd
            avdkrd 9 August 2013 21: 30
            0
            Well, yes, this is from the series: a ride - not a ride. Not a ride !!!!
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 10 August 2013 16: 58
              +1
              Quote: avdkrd
              Well, yes, this is from the series: a ride - not a ride.

              If so, information has appeared in the media! So there was a leak, because such things are not discussed in a street cafe.
              In general, Russia / GDP splashed slop _
              Wrap around, Do not know how - soak up! ...

              And interestingly, there are absorbent ones! Even on our forum!
              Quote: Kombitor
              There is no smoke without fire.

              there are others
              yes
              1. Cynic
                Cynic 10 August 2013 19: 45
                0
                Quote: Cynic
                there are others

                Intensively absorb, even prich.mokirovat from pleasure!
                Quote: waisson
                I’m wondering how much pu ...... will fall and the deal will
        2. APASUS
          APASUS 9 August 2013 19: 24
          +4
          Quote: GreatRussia
          Putin compare with the hunchback? Is it not noticeable even for the Arabs?

          And Syria in the place with Russia, they rated it weakly. Moreover, this is an order for armaments and not just money. The Arabs lose practically nothing.
          But Russia, after such somersaults, can lose a hundred times more.
          1. Sandov
            Sandov 10 August 2013 21: 04
            +1
            If Russia conspires with the Saudis, then it will be a kryndets as a power. This is clear to everyone, so it’s not a ride. Well, as lice climbed different shushera from the cracks. To the nail is a tribe.
        3. skeptic
          skeptic 10 August 2013 20: 28
          +1
          Quote: GreatRussia
          Putin compare with the hunchback? Is it not noticeable even for the Arabs?


          For the Saudi dolboklyuv and the like - the Russians, all the same (humpback), or rather, about others, are judged by themselves.
          If he’s corrupt ... then the whole world is request .
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 August 2013 15: 49
        +9
        Quote: lonely
        just decided to try the old trick, which once worked !!

        No, not proydit.Po Russian tradition is supposed to step on the same rake twice! The first Humpbacked, the second Borka drunk ... everything, atas hi
        1. alone
          alone 9 August 2013 15: 51
          +5
          say it right. but they don’t know this. Now they know
        2. svp67
          svp67 9 August 2013 18: 21
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          No, not proydit.Po Russian tradition is supposed to step on the same rake twice! The first Humpbacked, the second Borka drunk ... everything, atas
          Or maybe the account is somewhat different - Iraq, Libya ... and Medvedev can be added to the list of "rake lovers" ...
          1. alexdol
            alexdol 9 August 2013 19: 39
            0
            svp67 SU ".. and you can add Medvedev to the list of" rake lovers ".."
            --------------------------------------------------------------------
            That's right, Medvedev just forgot! But just another question: after all, Medvedev is not on his own, does he seem to work in tandem with Putin?
            And until now, his anti-Russian activities have not received the proper EVALUATION! So the questions remain ..
            1. mealnik2005
              mealnik2005 9 August 2013 20: 24
              +2
              If you recall how they dogged about Libya, then the team is just different.
            2. Cynic
              Cynic 10 August 2013 17: 07
              0
              Quote: alexdol
              Medvedev is not on his own, does he seem to work with Putin in tandem?

      3. Combitor
        Combitor 10 August 2013 02: 35
        +1
        <lonely (1) Yesterday, 15:29 ↑>
        There is no smoke without fire. We will never know all the details. But on the other hand, "decent women are not made obscene proposals."
        1. Bort radist
          Bort radist 10 August 2013 06: 46
          +3
          Quote: Kombitor
          "decent women are not made obscene proposals."

          They do, but they get a slap in the face.
        2. Cynic
          Cynic 10 August 2013 17: 03
          0
          Quote: Kombitor
          There is no smoke without fire.

          Each of us judges other people to the extent of our own corruption.

      4. UrraletZ
        UrraletZ 10 August 2013 13: 37
        0
        Medvedev also did not disappoint with Gaddafi. It remains to be seen how much this surrendered the leader of the Jamahiriya ...
        Thank God that Medvedev was briefly held on the throne, otherwise he would have bothered no less than a hunchback ... a worthy student! God didn’t give horns to a cheerful cow ...
    3. experienced
      experienced 9 August 2013 15: 35
      11
      Quote: GreatRussia
      The stump is clear that this is one of the episodes of the information war against Russia, which "our" media were happy to replicate

      Well, they have such a job, only along with the slogan "Syria is not for sale" is appropriate and another "Russia is not bought" winked
      1. Very old
        Very old 9 August 2013 15: 50
        14
        Alexei, just in the news they showed an episode: training of Kurdish women (full combat training) entering the regular Syrian army. Is this evidence of what? Syria will stand - IN! All the people stood up. Well, who will dump him?
        1. experienced
          experienced 9 August 2013 15: 55
          +1
          Quote: Very old
          just in the news showed an episode: training of Kurdish women (full combat training) entering the regular Syrian army. Is this evidence of what? Syria will stand - IN! All the people stood up. Well, who will dump him?

          Valentine, hi I would not like to draw parallels, but remember Gaddafi's "Libyan bodyguards" ... A woman and war are, in my opinion, incompatible things. Assad is saved by the fact that he has a "fist" in the country on which to rely on, the army is loyal to him, Russia and Iran provide international support, and women-warriors are an element of propaganda and nothing more. hi
          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 9 August 2013 16: 17
            27
            Quote: seasoned
            I would not like to draw parallels, but remember Gaddafi's "Libyan bodyguards" ... A woman and war are, in my opinion, incompatible things.

            You tell our grandmothers and grandmothers about incompatibility.


            http://zukaty.ru/news/11.jpg
            1. experienced
              experienced 9 August 2013 16: 29
              +5
              Quote: Papakiko
              You tell our grandmothers and grandmothers about incompatibility.

              I admire the Feat of our grandmothers and great-grandmothers, but you must admit that this heroism was not from a good life ... In the military and post-war collective farms, women plowed land, and 12-year-olds stood at the machine tools for 14 hours, the time was like that and the country was different there was nobody during times of danger and did not think to hide in Canaries, Turkeys and Greece ... hi
              And still I continue to believe that women and war are incompatible hi
              1. GreatRussia
                GreatRussia 9 August 2013 16: 36
                15
                Quote: seasoned
                And still I continue to believe that women and war are incompatible hi

                Man and war are not compatible. That will be more true.
                But what should a person do if her degenerates are constantly unleashing it?
              2. Papakiko
                Papakiko 9 August 2013 17: 17
                +9
                Quote: seasoned
                that women and war are incompatible

                Yes, it is, Life and Death, joy-suffering, etc.
                But when "to be or not to be" is at stake, there are no options "both young and old."
              3. Very old
                Very old 9 August 2013 17: 27
                +7
                I agree on something. "War does not have a woman's face." Alexey, today these women have no choice. Need, Need. And nothing else
              4. lewerlin53rus
                lewerlin53rus 9 August 2013 17: 50
                +8
                Quote: seasoned
                that this heroism was not from a good life ...

                Undoubtedly. But the Syrians are now in a similar situation. And they are well aware that if they do not stand, then Syria will have no future. This is their World War II.
              5. datur
                datur 9 August 2013 21: 31
                +3
                seasoned-And still I continue to believe that women and war are incompatible, when the MOTHERLAND is in danger, then everything that will help defeat the enemy is compatible !!!!!
          2. smile
            smile 9 August 2013 16: 23
            19
            experienced
            Well, our girls during the Second World War even being part of the army RDGs, perhaps, proved the opposite .... look, Jewish aunts even now serve in special forces ... when the existence of a country or people is at stake, women also get in line .... although there is no place for a woman in a war ...
            1. hollger
              hollger 9 August 2013 19: 50
              +3
              Sorry, but Jewish aunts do not serve in combat units ... if THAT, their task is to carry out police functions.
              1. smile
                smile 10 August 2013 18: 45
                +1
                hollger
                Find in the archive of the site an article about the Jewish army women's battalion of the special forces "Karakal" - it is the Jewish aunts who serve there. There were several articles.
                So that you have the wrong information, alas. It’s difficult to call a special forces battalion non-combat. :)))
          3. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 9 August 2013 18: 47
            +9
            Quote: seasoned
            I would not like to draw parallels, but remember Gaddafi's "Libyan bodyguards" ... A woman and war are, in my opinion, incompatible things.
        2. Aljavad
          Aljavad 10 August 2013 03: 12
          +3
          the news was ambiguous: they would train, and they would fight with dushmans, but there was no question of Assad’s entry into the army. After the massacre in the Kurdish village (450 victims, 120 children), the Kurds are no longer neutral. But they are building a free Kurdistan and Assad is not on their way. By the way, Kurds have long been characterized by women's units. And very fighting.
    4. eplewke
      eplewke 9 August 2013 16: 06
      +9
      The prince of Churkin was completely overwhelmed ... We definitely won’t sell Syria ...
    5. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 9 August 2013 17: 59
      14
      Fresh video from Syria

      Operation in Al Kabun. Bus station. The start of the assault.


      Operation in Al Kabun. Bus station. Continuation of the attack on the left flank.


      Operation in Al Kabun. Bus station. Courage against fire.


      Operation in Al Kabun. Bus station. Right flank.


      Operation in Al Kabun. Fire confrontation.
      1. Anatoli_kz
        Anatoli_kz 9 August 2013 21: 04
        +3
        I’m interested, but I don’t understand.
        Judging by these reports about the war in Syria, I see that a small group is fighting on one side and on the other - and a maximum of two three tanks of the Syrian army.
        They like fighting for their own pleasure slowly ??
        Shoot from the tanks.
        Where are the full-fledged military operations?
        Where is the total army offensive?
        Is it their war or what?
        1. alekseinew
          alekseinew 9 August 2013 21: 25
          +7
          damn this is not the Russian army, well, people are fighting as best they can, for themselves and their relatives, their national guard is not always there for everything and there is a form, but this does not beg their zeal and will
        2. Russ69
          Russ69 10 August 2013 00: 18
          +9
          Quote: Anatoli_kz
          I’m interested, but I don’t understand.
          Judging by these reports about the war in Syria, I see that a small group is fighting on one side and on the other - and a maximum of two three tanks of the Syrian army.
          They like fighting for their own pleasure slowly ??
          Shoot from the tanks.
          Where are the full-fledged military operations?
          Where is the total army offensive?
          Is it their war or what?

          They are fighting in the city, why on the same street 10 tanks. And what for a lot of people. Normal tactics, slowly moving forward, in front of this tank fire they crush everything that is possible, then the infantry cleans.
          1. eplewke
            eplewke 12 August 2013 10: 01
            0
            The tactics resemble the second Chechen one. Not without our specialists a campaign ... Tanks work competently. We learned how to crush fire points in the city ... in fact, the tanks do all the work here.
        3. Aljavad
          Aljavad 10 August 2013 04: 02
          +4
          ordinary conflict of low intensity, without a front line. There are assault groups with attached armored vehicles. Adequately.
      2. wk-083
        wk-083 10 August 2013 12: 31
        +2
        Thank you for the video! We would have to fight like that in the first Chechnya.
    6. Turner
      Turner 9 August 2013 21: 19
      -6
      These media throw their shit on the fan, and then we go all in their shit
    7. valokordin
      valokordin 10 August 2013 03: 21
      +4
      Well, how they want to defeat Assad, well, what did he do to these Pasquadites.
      1. stroporez
        stroporez 11 August 2013 12: 05
        +1
        Quote: valokordin
        Well, how they want to defeat Assad, well, what did he do to these Pasquadites.
        ----------------- did not bend .......... and now "civilization" will never forgive him for this
    8. Siberian German
      Siberian German 10 August 2013 06: 25
      +1
      But we need such a question Syria and for 15 we didn’t sell it. And here is Libya - where our firms began to work the Russian Railways to pave the way - why they betrayed it or how much they sold for - this is an interesting question.
      1. Very old
        Very old 10 August 2013 11: 00
        +1
        Such a question has already passed. Answer: NO AND NEVER Russia sold. Syria, Libya - these are different situations, events developed differently, although there was only one screenwriter. In the case of Libya, the script worked, with Syria- HORSE BAD! And it won’t work. On this, a mustache!
    9. sscha
      sscha 10 August 2013 18: 17
      +1
      I don’t want to discuss ... The one thing that struck me most in the article was the phrase of truth: AND THIS STATE IS ATTEMPTING TO DO THE ONLY THAT IT IS TRYING TO MAKE THE RICH PEOPLE LIVING OUTSIDE MORAL: OFFER MONEY, WELL WANT, ,, hi
    10. Sandov
      Sandov 10 August 2013 20: 59
      +1
      As France-Press sources told, Prince Bandar tried to explain to President Putin that there was only one way out of the current situation in Syria - the use of force. President Assad will be removed from power. The Saudi curator of foreign policy and intelligence services made it clear to the Russian partners that there would no longer be peace talks: the Syrian opposition would not participate in them.

      To zero this gangster opposition, along with the Saudis. It is time in Saudi Arabia to make a color revolution. The monarchs sat there.
  2. soldat1945
    soldat1945 9 August 2013 15: 21
    11
    The Western media no longer knows what nonsense to come up with; Russia was not befitting to lose face like that!
    1. Airman
      Airman 9 August 2013 15: 40
      +5
      Quote: soldat1945
      The Western media no longer knows what nonsense to come up with; Russia was not befitting to lose face like that!

      They would like so much that Russia would lose face, but ..... the rumor is up, and they look at the reaction.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 August 2013 15: 51
        +8
        Quote: Povshnik

        They would like Russia to lose face, but ...

        I’ll add, with your permission, how much they do not throw to Russia, but they always have to make excuses themselves. hi
        1. smile
          smile 9 August 2013 16: 26
          +7
          Alexander Romanov
          Hello!.
          No, not a boomerang, just the one who throws shit at someone, gets or not, it’s not clear, but he’s taken into it by his ears, for sure!
  3. Denis
    Denis 9 August 2013 15: 23
    11
    The Arab majors are completely fucked up, they think if Americans can be bought, then we are the same.
  4. Constantine
    Constantine 9 August 2013 15: 23
    14
    In my opinion, it is likely that the information was thrown on our side, or on the part of those who openly can not oppose the Western bloc and their Middle Eastern satellites. This information, from any normal person, will cause charity to the states supporting the militants, and we, in turn, again act as an incorruptible peacemaker, which has a beneficial effect on our image outside our country. soldier

    Personally, I think that the move was made correctly and on the eve of the G20 threw us the pluses in the piggy bank. Thus, there is a great chance that the G20 will end in our favor, and the negative effect for Western countries will exceed that which was the result of the meeting in Northern Ireland. It is excellent that ours began to beat Westerners on their own field. Information field. good
    1. Very old
      Very old 9 August 2013 15: 57
      +7
      It is very likely that this will be a 19 + 1 summit. But we have already met with such a situation. And Putin is not the first time, But in Suvorov: not a number, but ... you know. Do not peck.
      1. igordok
        igordok 9 August 2013 17: 00
        +4
        Quote: Very old
        It is very likely that this will be the summit 19 + 1.

        You forgot about China. Rather 18 + 1 + 1
      2. svp67
        svp67 9 August 2013 17: 57
        +4
        Quote: Very old
        But in Suvorov’s style: not a number, but ... you yourself know. Do not peck.

        Moreover, our politicians are already conducting preparatory work, not for nothing that they are courting Italy and are maintaining close relations with Germany and France ...
  5. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 9 August 2013 15: 25
    +3
    Not much, however !!! If SAUDI added a couple of zeros and in addition made a commitment to catch all these hirelings-oppositionists, they practically did it, and then ... they separated all dushmans and Basmachis ... their bad head from the body ... you might think more ... how to ensure the independence of SYRIA ...
    If they can agree on the first point, then they will never agree with the second!
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 9 August 2013 15: 35
      +6
      Quote: KazaK Bo
      Not much, however !!! If SAUDI added a couple of zeros and in addition made a commitment to catch all these hirelings-oppositionists, they practically did it, and then ... they separated all dushmans and Basmachis ... their bad head from the body ... you might think more ... how to ensure the independence of SYRIA ...
      If they can agree on the first point, then they will never agree with the second!


      In the second case, it’s their fighters and they are sponsored by them / through them.

      As for the first point, no matter how many zeros there are, this is not only the prestige of our state, but also the thousands of lives of civilians, women and children. They have no price and you can pay for it only in a known manner.
  6. Trailer
    Trailer 9 August 2013 15: 25
    16
    The moral of the whole fable is this
    Prince of fighters, go to ...
  7. Karlsonn
    Karlsonn 9 August 2013 15: 26
    17
    The best answer to Prince Bandar
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 9 August 2013 15: 35
      11
      Quote: Karlsonn
      The best answer to Prince Bandar

      - It seems that White Swan and SU-34 will do this business faster and more efficiently. Fly over the Caspian Sea, to the Persian Gulf through 600 km of Iranian land and further to Riyadh and Saudi fields. It's time, it's time, Qatar has changed its mind, and the gardeners are specifically stupid, why they need a little. IMHO maybe wrong.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 9 August 2013 15: 44
        26
        Quote: aksakal
        how much they need a little. IMHO, possibly wrong.


        Then this option, a call from the Kremlin to Riyadh:
        - the weapon has already been sent to you by the prince, transfer money.
        1. Stiletto
          Stiletto 9 August 2013 16: 31
          +9
          No, no, no, you can't! First money, then weapons. Otherwise, after such a "delivery" who will translate them? good
          1. stroporez
            stroporez 11 August 2013 12: 11
            0
            we’ll come and translate everything. There’s ------ why the dead people need money ........
        2. alekseinew
          alekseinew 9 August 2013 20: 35
          +3
          but the idea is great, "catch the heels with an ax, wieie, what did you catch or something"
        3. wk-083
          wk-083 10 August 2013 12: 33
          +1
          BUT MONEY FORWARD!
      2. Very old
        Very old 9 August 2013 16: 01
        +6
        Do not rush things. But aren't Arabs living in S. Arabia? And who said that in S. Ar. is impossible SPRING? Whoever invented spring is from her and ...
    2. Seraph
      Seraph 9 August 2013 15: 47
      +2
      Salute! With bmpd photo? I posted it on my VKontakte today too))
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 9 August 2013 16: 43
        10
        Quote: Seraphim
        Salute! With bmpd photo? I posted it on my VKontakte today too))


        Honestly, I don’t remember where I got it from, what since spring lies.
        If you like it - there’s one more:


        Both are clickable drinks
    3. The Indian Joe
      The Indian Joe 9 August 2013 19: 02
      +6
      And here is an even better option:
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 9 August 2013 20: 31
        +2
        Quote: Injun Joe
        And here is an even better option:



        Quote: Karlsonn
        Then this option, a call from the Kremlin to Riyadh:


        Weapons Prince delivered:
  8. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 9 August 2013 15: 29
    +5
    Just stupid. What would grandmas sell to someone, what would we look like then.
  9. strange and pretty meaningless
    strange and pretty meaningless 9 August 2013 15: 32
    +3
    Roast duck sucking. Was there a boy?
    1. sergey72
      sergey72 9 August 2013 15: 36
      +8
      Yes, there was. In the "Arguments of the Week" article "Moscow put a check on the Saudis and Qatar" ....
  10. buzuke
    buzuke 9 August 2013 15: 34
    +3
    well amers, but where are these shepherds?
  11. Arabist
    Arabist 9 August 2013 15: 41
    +4
    Spent 200 million and lost in less than 20 hours. This prince had to be deprived of his right to manage money for life, and not the one who left 300 thousand tips in America.
  12. alekseinew
    alekseinew 9 August 2013 15: 42
    +3
    Yes, I think it’s not worth trusting these Saudi Burgers, they will throw, and indeed a strange offer, the traders in a word, came to give a kickback, to be stunned!
  13. Seraph
    Seraph 9 August 2013 15: 44
    10
    A hundred years of abundance of petrodollars is too little for the transformation of sheep and sheep into people with a developed outlook and culture. They have, like a hundred years ago: "Eh, daragoy, vasma virblyuds - give me your wife." We decided to buy Russia for 15 billions of US euros. Poor, no imagination ...
    1. Very old
      Very old 9 August 2013 17: 38
      +4
      Seraphim, why are you like that? Do not deny them imagination. It is in this and the chip - imagination - is the richest.
  14. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 9 August 2013 15: 46
    +5
    But in one, almost all experts agree: Russia will not “give in” Assad to the Saudis and the West.
    And rightly so! hi
  15. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 9 August 2013 15: 46
    +5
    We will supply weapons and humanitarian aid for 15 billion ... not to the Arabian donkeys but to the legitimate government of Syria! The Anglo-Saxons decided to sow this insecurity with the Syrian people regarding Russia .. Funny ridicule and stupid sorry for them to me .. all banderlogs will not calm down .. Syria Russia will not sell you. !! Elena passed there the people of Syria let them calmly crush these obscurantists further ..
  16. faraon
    faraon 9 August 2013 15: 55
    12
    To summarize The Russian and Saudi authorities did not confirm and did not refute the initial report of Reuters on a proposed $ 15 billion “deal”. Today, the media are full of all sorts of guesses about what was and was not.

    But on one point, almost all experts agree: Russia will not “give in” Assad to the Saudis and the West
    The article put a plus.
    but the question is: was there a boy?
    one gets the impression that this information was not casual on the internet. Moreover, no one side confirms or refutes this proposal.
    If the information comes from Russia, then finally Russia began to conduct offensive operations in the information war that is being waged against Russia, and this will bring tangible results in the future, and the rivals will be defeated, because Putin is not Gorbachev and Yeltsin. on the sidelines, he made clear to his opponents that Russia was not selling its allies.
    Raising the image of Russia in the eyes of the whole world.
    if not (which I doubt), it will be a big mistake of Russia and a defeat on all fronts of world politics (God forbid.)
    The East is a delicate matter (as Comrade Sukhov said), the logic of a market trader lies in the mentality of the Middle East.
    1. beard999
      beard999 9 August 2013 17: 19
      +2
      Quote: faraon
      The Russian and Saudi authorities did not confirm or refute the original Reuters report.

      The Russian authorities have just denied! Presidential Aide Ushakov bluntly said that during the meeting of the Saudi prince with Putin, "specific issues on the development of military-technical cooperation and other aspects of bilateral cooperation were not discussed." Source: http://www.itar-tass.com/c12/835313_print.html.
    2. tttttt
      tttttt 9 August 2013 18: 56
      +3
      There's something about it. It seems to me that the main version with 15 yards is just an informational background. The conversation was about something else ... I’ll venture to suggest ... But did Saudi Arabia drop out of the orbit of the USA there at all?
  17. Double major
    Double major 9 August 2013 16: 02
    +8
    Trying to buy Putin ... Hmmm ... Insanity grew stronger ...
  18. knn54
    knn54 9 August 2013 16: 03
    +5
    "You serve as a petition, smerd!"
    PS This "bloody boy", "emir of slaves" (a slave mother because slavery in the SA was abolished in 1963) is Bush's best friend, who promised not to push NATO eastward ...
  19. Jarik56
    Jarik56 9 August 2013 16: 05
    +2
    No pasaran!
  20. Larus
    Larus 9 August 2013 16: 14
    +5
    There are still several countries in the world that look at us as guarantors of their independence from the jackal states and 6. As soon as we take this seriously, there will be more and more countries, because they will see that they don’t get kirdyk from what they say NO to the states !!! It’s a pity that our steps are small and long.
  21. morpogr
    morpogr 9 August 2013 16: 16
    +2
    This is a good example of how and why the United States conducts its policy both from the Saudi ally and the Qatar that joined them. They should already understand that not everything in this world is being sold.
  22. sergey72
    sergey72 9 August 2013 16: 25
    +6
    Last week, the semi-official visit to Moscow of the head of Saudi intelligence, Prince Band bin Sultan, went almost unnoticed. And although the official version was not very specific, the main issue was Syria and Egypt. Putin was able to checkmate both Saudi Arabia and Qatar. It is interesting that Band bin Sultan arrived even without preliminary preparation for the visit and, despite this, was accepted by the Russian president, whose schedule of meetings is scheduled by the minute. As the Russian military-diplomatic source told about King of Saudi Arabia Abdullah personally requested the meeting of the prince and president, so all ceremonial conventions were curtailed. At a meeting that was held behind closed doors, the issue of curtailing aid to militants in Syria was raised. After the success of the government forces in Homs and Aleppo, the Saudis decided to quit the game into which Washington got them involved. Newly, without losing face, while playing the Egyptian card to annoy Qatar, the source said. Riyadh asked Putin to support the Egyptian military, who overthrew the Qatari protege of the former president of the Mursi Muslim Brotherhood. As soon as expected, Putin will make a blitz visit to Cairo to overshadow the presence of arms deals between our countries. But since impoverished Egypt is for there’s practically nothing to pay for the weapon, the Saudis will finance the deal. Taken from the Academy of Sciences on August 8, 2013.
    1. Very old
      Very old 9 August 2013 17: 45
      +2
      More precisely, please, the link, it’s a very interesting question
      1. sergey72
        sergey72 9 August 2013 17: 51
        +1
        Sorry, I reprinted directly from the sheet, and not from the Internet ... Now I'll try to fill the second part ..
      2. sergey72
        sergey72 9 August 2013 18: 26
        +4
        So let's continue: "In principle, the support of the secular, albeit military, Egyptian regime, as opposed to radical Islamists, is also beneficial to Moscow. In Doha and Israel, after the meeting between Putin and the Bin Sultan's Gangs, they gnashed their teeth. Not long before this meeting, Qatar, which always shit on our country, suddenly supported the creation of a kind of gas OPEC (Russia, Ktar, Iran). To stabilize gas prices and prevent their fall, as stated in the final document of the second summit of the Forum of Gas Exporting Countries. In addition, Doha managed to shove the head of the sovereign wealth fund of the emirate, Ahmed Mohammed Al-Said a member of the international advisory council of the Russian Direct Investment Fund. As evil tongues say, it cost him dearly. Moreover, Doha plans to play the role of an offshore paradise for Moscow instead of Cyprus, which has tarnished its reputation. Tel Aviv's indignation is also clear. According to unofficial data, bin Sultan is finally confirmed that the US had previously provided Israel with details of the ro ssian S-300. These were the ones that were supplied to Syria under intergovernmental agreements. Possession of intimate knowledge could have allowed Israel to launch unpunished air strikes against Syrian air defense points. Now this is out of the question, since Russia will have time to take proactive measures. "AN August 8, 2012 ...
  23. T-73
    T-73 9 August 2013 16: 26
    +2
    this is panic. any straw is good, as long as it helps against Assad. Do not give a ride guys. I don’t think that Bashar had even a hair trembled from such a "cranberry", and Arabia and Qatar would have fallen into a coma in the opposite scenario. The prince on a white horse said ... Let them declare until the "White Swan" is seen)))
  24. RUkola
    RUkola 9 August 2013 16: 27
    +1
    we all know their promises
  25. Alexey M
    Alexey M 9 August 2013 16: 27
    +4
    In this regard, Bandar requested that Russia not impede the adoption by the UN Security Council of resolutions authorizing increased pressure on Assad. In exchange for this, he promised several preferences at once. First, to help strengthen the influence of the Russian Federation in the Middle East region, where the Americans are gradually leaving. Secondly, to guarantee that under the new government Syria will not become the basis for the training of Islamic militants who are going to fight in the North Caucasus. Thirdly, Bandar promised to prevent the construction of pipelines from the Persian Gulf, through which cheap hydrocarbons would go through Syrian territory to Europe, capable of shaking Russia's position in the European oil and gas market. And fourthly, the prince offered to buy weapons worth $ 15 billion in Russia. ”

    If the amers go away, then we have already come and why do we need the permission of some kind of ghoul who imagines himself to be a king and a god. And we will find someone to sell weapons to without a saud. Although I think they will not refuse to Iraq.
    We won’t hand over Syria to you, not the pipelines are already automatic, but there Iran will pull up with its oil, and if you want to block a couple of trifles, the main thing will be agreed with Egypt and let Saudi Arabia try to carry out its tankers.
  26. T-73
    T-73 9 August 2013 16: 31
    +4
    Quote: buzuke
    well amers, but where are these shepherds?

    in fact, rams and shepherds walk together)))
  27. dpwPOL
    dpwPOL 9 August 2013 16: 38
    +5
    Send them a pair of poplars for landscaping the desert)
  28. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 9 August 2013 17: 07
    +3
    in fact, questions of corrupt love are solved in brothels, and this one has been trampled upon by Putin. What kind of hell is it for? some simple, but at the same time incomprehensible prince.
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 11 August 2013 12: 17
      0
      but check it out -------------- what is the quality of their "grass", how does eva pins ...
  29. faraon
    faraon 9 August 2013 17: 10
    +8
    In this regard, Bandar requested that Russia not impede the adoption by the UN Security Council of resolutions authorizing increased pressure on Assad. In exchange for this, he promised several preferences at once. Firstly, to help strengthen the influence of the Russian Federation in the Middle East region, where the Americans are gradually leaving. Secondly, to guarantee that under the new government Syria will not become the basis for the training of Islamic militants who are going to fight in the North Caucasus. Thirdly, Bandar promised to prevent the construction of pipelines from the Persian Gulf, through which cheap hydrocarbons would go through Syrian territory to Europe, capable of shaking Russia's position in the European oil and gas market. And fourthly, the prince offered to buy weapons worth $ 15 billion in Russia. ”


    In this regard, Bandar requested that Russia not impede the adoption by the UN Security Council of resolutions authorizing increased pressure on Assad. In exchange for this, he promised several preferences at once. Firstly, to help strengthen the influence of the Russian Federation in the Middle East region, where the Americans are gradually leaving. Secondly, to guarantee that under the new government Syria will not become the basis for the training of Islamic militants who are going to fight in the North Caucasus. Thirdly, Bandar promised to prevent the construction of pipelines from the Persian Gulf, through which cheap hydrocarbons would go through Syrian territory to Europe, capable of shaking Russia's position in the European oil and gas market. And fourthly, the prince offered to buy weapons worth $ 15 billion in Russia. ”


    This is the true face of the East, the face of a merchant ready to sell his mother. As you can believe these stones. Now they are asking to humblely offer the golden mountains, and then they will begin to blame.
    What do they think that Russia is a corrupt girl with whom you can say so. Or they decided that you can and it's time to buy it as everything is bought and sold from them.
    I think that all this is empty talk and requests, and Vladimir Putin has long understood their bazaar mentality.
    Russia will still put all these Saudis into cancer, and show the whole world that Russia is a great country with which it is necessary to conduct conversations observing international etiquette
    1. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 9 August 2013 18: 41
      +5
      truth gutara Pharaoh (I wanted to say Aronych, but I will not, because I agree with the comment) my plus to you.
    2. Sandov
      Sandov 10 August 2013 21: 24
      +1
      Pharaoh overlay, repeated the paragraph twice. And the rest I said everything normally.
  30. vasiliysxx
    vasiliysxx 9 August 2013 17: 15
    +9
    Yes, it’s hard now for Putin, they got these demons. I’ll think that after the Olympics the conversation will be tougher.
    1. SPETSNAZ
      SPETSNAZ 9 August 2013 17: 35
      +2
      Wait and see.
  31. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 9 August 2013 17: 18
    +6
    "But almost all experts agree on one thing: Russia will not 'yield' Assad to the Saudis and the West." - it would be foolish to think otherwise. In the situation with Syria, we are not talking about the economy and all kinds of preferences, but about the global confrontation between the West and Russia, the confrontation of values, the two poles of this world, so bargaining is inappropriate here.
  32. faraon
    faraon 9 August 2013 17: 42
    +5
    Quote: smile
    experienced
    Well, our girls during the Second World War even being part of the army RDGs, perhaps, proved the opposite .... look, Jewish aunts even now serve in special forces ... when the existence of a country or people is at stake, women also get in line .... although there is no place for a woman in a war ...

    Jewish women have no choice, the country is constantly in a state of martial law, so they go on their own and serve without any discounts on the floor. Just like the guys do the service and bear all the hardships and hardships.
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 10 August 2013 21: 26
      +1
      On the Internet I watched a video of how your army ladies did striptease. They say the second time they already give out this work.
      1. igor67
        igor67 10 August 2013 21: 29
        +1
        Quote: Sandov
        On the Internet I watched a video of how your army ladies did striptease. They say the second time they already give out this work.

        Now for these works on the Internet will be strictly punished,
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 10 August 2013 21: 36
          0
          Quote: igor67
          Now for these works on the Internet will be strictly punished,


          ??

          I understand that the Main Ally even banned the sale of absolutely soldier's "Playboy" and "Penthouse" in their military stores in order to be in the trend of the struggle for the triumph of pederasty all over the world, but you should have at least some originality.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 10 August 2013 21: 37
        +1
        If not scary, then there is nothing wrong with that. Quite the contrary.
  33. treskoed
    treskoed 9 August 2013 17: 44
    +4
    But in one, almost all experts agree: Russia will not “give in” Assad to the Saudis and the West.

    I am glad that almost all experts do not doubt the decency and independence of Russia!
  34. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 9 August 2013 17: 47
    +3
    Saudi Prince .... "I beg your pardon" already the King has grown physiologically and structurally (career ladder), but judging by his behavior, the psychological side of his development "stuck" in childhood. As in childhood (which is inherent in everyone at this level of development), he wants to get everything at once and is very worried if something does not work out for him (how is he almost a god, and he is used to the fact that everything he does not want is like a prince here he receives). In addition, he perceives the world exclusively through the prism of his worldview (everyone thinks and acts the same way as I do), and is "wildly" surprised when others do otherwise.
    In general, the clinical case ..... is not treated.
    Sincerely.
  35. Gato
    Gato 9 August 2013 17: 51
    +2
    there will be no peace talks: the Syrian opposition will not participate in them.

    And, I hope, the reason will be that it is difficult to participate in negotiations with a bullet in your head and an aspen stake in w ..
  36. kmike
    kmike 9 August 2013 18: 44
    +4
    Only the USA and the Saudis could doubt another answer. tongue
  37. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 9 August 2013 19: 03
    +2
    There were more advantageous offers to Syria’s account of Russia .. All this artificial hype was not casual .. the Anglo-Saxons and Israel are clearly plotting some kind of powerful provocation .. bloody .. to drag Russia in. They are angry now and driven into a corner! In the fall, something will be decided radically .. Lord help Russia not get involved in another world massacre !! We are again framed ..
  38. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 9 August 2013 19: 08
    +4
    I remember a dozen "from reliable sources" that Assad is packing his suitcases to Venezuela, then to Russia, then to Iran. Now the same "sources" are reporting that Russia is surrendering Syria, tomorrow they will say that the Iranians and the Chinese surrendered it.
    1. JIaIIoTb
      JIaIIoTb 9 August 2013 20: 31
      +2
      And you fix who writes it, then compare with what they will write later. In this way, "sent Cossacks" are very well identified.
      Sincerely.
  39. olviko
    olviko 9 August 2013 19: 19
    +5
    Judging by what they write about Bandar bin Sultan, he is an experienced intelligence officer and diplomat, and he could hardly offer Putin such bullshit. Russia is slowly but surely winning the Syrian party, what for it these 15 billion, when a much more serious prize is at stake. After quitting the Qatar game, Saudi Arabia remained the only one watching this gang. Things are getting worse and perhaps the Saudis are testing the way for an honorable way out of the situation.
  40. an_ursus
    an_ursus 9 August 2013 19: 32
    +4
    They can also have tea in the negotiations ... Just say the weather is nice ... etc., etc. Direct contacts, if possible, will play a role. The rest is ordinary trepidation, as if it would somehow affect us. All right comrades, we are on the right track ... hi
  41. tixon444
    tixon444 9 August 2013 20: 01
    +8
    Russia will definitely leave Syria. With time. It is possible - to Saudi Arabia. soldier There, for example, women's rights are not respected. love They can’t even drive cars. Outrage. No.
    Saudi Arabia is a zone of interests of Russia. They get the wrong oil there. repeat
    1. svp67
      svp67 9 August 2013 20: 07
      +4
      Quote: tixon444
      Disgrace

      The fact is that

      Relations between Russia and Saudi Arabia have deteriorated. The formal reason for the diplomatic tension between the two countries was Moscow’s reaction to the suppression of Shiite demonstrations by the Saudi authorities.

      A recent Shiite mass rally against their rights was allegedly brutally suppressed by the Saudi police. During the reprisal of the US ally over its religious minority, two protesters died and over 20 people were injured. Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr, one of the Shiite spiritual leaders, was also arrested, the Russian Foreign Ministry said.

      “Recent reports of developments in the eastern province of Saudi Arabia are causing concern,” said Russian Foreign Ministry Commissioner for Human Rights, Democracy and the Rule of Law Konstantin Dolgov. He also expressed fears that such events could lead to disagreements among the inhabitants of the country and negatively affect its stability.

      “We hope that the Kingdom’s authorities will take all necessary measures to normalize the situation in its eastern regions, to prevent confrontation there, including on an inter-confessional basis, and, in general, to guarantee universally accepted human rights, including the right to freedom of expression, peaceful demonstrations and freedom of association, as provided by law, ”the Foreign Ministry concluded.

      Riyadh reacted aggressively to Konstantin Dolgov’s words, saying that with its commentary Russia “blatantly” interferes in Saudi Arabia’s internal politics. Particularly curious is the fact that Saudi diplomats dragged the situation in Syria to the scandal with Moscow.
      1. tixon444
        tixon444 9 August 2013 20: 19
        +7
        Middle Ages. It's like closing black flowers in a garden.
        1. JIaIIoTb
          JIaIIoTb 9 August 2013 20: 36
          +8
          A plus)))
          I demand to remove the burqa from all the beauties! Women of the East have equal rights with men! (It seems that he did not depart from the postulates of the western shit democracy?)
          And yet, give freedom to gay Saudis! Let them know all the charms of the Democrats!))))
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 10 August 2013 16: 48
            +1
            Yeah, down with the burqa, and then what?
            With desires you need to be more specific!
      2. Panikovsky
        Panikovsky 9 August 2013 20: 42
        +2
        in my opinion, the deterioration of relations between RUSSIA and the air-riad can be pissed off and forgotten, especially with regard to eras, smelly, riad. we don’t know what it is, and we don’t want to know.
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 11 August 2013 12: 25
      +1
      Well, their most extreme SIN ---- fat and vodka do not like ..... wassat
  42. Naval
    Naval 9 August 2013 20: 49
    +3
    It is strange that they proposed 15, not 33. It would be symbolic. Only such masters must remember what Judas ended up with. Selling friends is beyond morality.
    1. builder
      builder 9 August 2013 20: 59
      +2
      Probably 30 wanted to write
    2. alekseinew
      alekseinew 9 August 2013 21: 11
      +5
      it was necessary to offer more than 100, at least some kind of pont would have been, and 15 chickens to laugh, drink for a week laughing
  43. individual
    individual 9 August 2013 22: 17
    +3
    Syria is not for sale, but It is time for the Saudis to prepare for their Arab Spring. am
  44. Artillerist
    Artillerist 9 August 2013 22: 22
    +3
    Quote: Karlsonn
    Quote: aksakal
    how much they need a little. IMHO, possibly wrong.


    Then this option, a call from the Kremlin to Riyadh:
    - the weapon has already been sent to you by the prince, transfer money.


    It’s easier to ....
    Invite Prince Bandar on an excursion to the Kremlin toilet .... well, and dunk him there, as the GDP promised to all the terrorists.
  45. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 9 August 2013 23: 07
    +1
    Quote: JIaIIoTb
    And you fix who writes it, then compare with what they will write later. In this way, "sent Cossacks" are very well identified.
    Sincerely.

    They analyze and identify .. don’t worry ... the same ones are needed to comprehend what is happening in the world and the country ..
  46. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 9 August 2013 23: 12
    +4
    Strange public.
    The Americans have trillions of debts, with obligations to resolve them this fall, not to mention the end of the agreement / contract for the Fed, which will increase the debts many times over.
    And here they are trying to throw Russia a bunch of glass beads.
    This is how one should not respect the people and do not underestimate their country, so that they would openly try to breed ...
  47. White Russian
    White Russian 9 August 2013 23: 13
    +1
    kibalchish boy, unlike bad boy, is not for sale
  48. michajlo
    michajlo 10 August 2013 00: 41
    0
    Quote: tttttt
    There's something about it. It seems to me that the main version with 15 yards is just an informational background. The conversation was about something else ... I would venture to suggest ...But did Saudi Arabia drop out of the orbit of the USA there at all?

    Good evening everyone! The assumption from above is not without reality, although at first it is unusual by ear. But as they say: How much rope does not curl ...
  49. vlad.1924
    vlad.1924 10 August 2013 01: 37
    0
    In reality, this is not a rumor, but real politics and Russia have not yet been offered this ...
  50. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 10 August 2013 07: 02
    0
    Despite all these miserable attempts, Syria will win and Russia does not sell friends! And who let this not shaven camel driver to Moscow, what is another guest worker? And where is the FMS and face control?