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How not to punish Putin ("Foreign Affairs", USA)

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How not to punish Putin ("Foreign Affairs", USA)Given Putin’s political vulnerability, an open clash with the West because of the rights of homosexuals and Edward Snowden, which has become inevitable due to Washington’s cancellation of the summit of the American and Russian presidents, this is exactly what the Kremlin needs. The West should narrow its criticism of Russia, focusing on those issues on which its views coincide with those of the Russian people.


Punish Putin! Today it has become a general insanity. When Moscow provided temporary shelter to ANB secrets whistleblower Edward Snowden, US Senator John McCain proposed expanding the Magnitsky list, which includes Russian officials who are banned from entering the US, and speeding up the deployment of an anti-missile defense system in Europe and immediately admit Georgia to NATO. British actor Stephen Fry and numerous LGBT activists advocated a boycott of the Sochi Winter Olympics in 2014 in protest against Russia's recent actions against gays and lesbians. According to media reports, gay bars in the United States began to get rid of their stocks of Stolichnaya vodka.

But the most important event happened on Wednesday, when US President Barack Obama canceled a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, which was to be held in September in Moscow. At the same time, he, among other things, expressed his displeasure at the provision of asylum to the Kremlin by Snowden.

Indignation at Russia's actions is quite understandable. Snowden is accused of committing serious crimes, and Washington is naturally interested in bringing this man to justice. The recent law to ban “propaganda of homosexuality” in Russia has created an atmosphere of aggression, in which intolerant citizens attack Russians of nontraditional sexual orientation and post horrible images of violence against them on the Internet.

But before you rush into battle, those who want to punish Russia should think about two points. First, why does Putin behave in this way? And secondly, will these sanctions harm Putin or benefit him? Given that Putin is currently fighting for political survival, a public confrontation with the West will help him stay afloat. Therefore, Americans and Europeans who wish to change the course of Moscow should act carefully and carefully so as not to play along with Putin.

Unintended consequences

Back in 2012 for the presidency, Putin brushed aside all the reassuring conversations of former President Dmitry Medvedev about modernization. Thus, he exposed the contradictions within Russian society and in the ruling circles of the country. The president has lost the support of Russia's intellectual and cultural elite, as well as a significant part of the business community. His popularity ratings, which have exceeded 60% in recent months, create a deceptive impression of stability. We can expect a decrease in this rating, since it is closely related to the economic indicators of the country, and they have recently begun to deteriorate.

In such a situation, the Kremlin, conducting its campaign of enacting repressive laws, carrying out investigations with intimidation of the accused and speaking with anti-American remarks, has two objectives. First, he wants to intimidate and bring back into operation the administrative elite, which, under Medvedev, began to allow itself any liberties. The second goal is to drive a wedge between the liberal opposition, which is concentrated mainly in Moscow and St. Petersburg, and its remaining supporters in the more conservative and traditional provinces. On both fronts, the West, by its actions, can either complicate or facilitate the achievement of these goals to Putin.

The Kremlin, with its shameless homophobia, follows a simple political logic. As for gay rights, Putin is on the side of the Russian majority, while many of his liberal critics do not. As for LGBT rights, then in Russian society today there are practically the same mood as in the American one thirty years ago. When World Values ​​Survey asked Russian respondents in 2006, whether homosexuality is acceptable, 66 percent of respondents answered negatively. In 1982, exactly the same number of Americans gave the same answer to this question.

With the changing attitudes of the West, it is becoming increasingly difficult for American and European politicians to exploit homophobia. But in Russia, the situation is different. Since the central squares of Moscow filled 2011 in December with crowds of anti-government protests, Putin has begun to focus on sexual issues. In his first public comments on the demonstrations, he stated that he mistakenly took white ribbons for the condoms that the protesters wore. The goal was to create a sense of awkwardness when Russians think of democratic activists. To the extent that Kremlin PR people are able to portray the protesters as a culturally alien element, Putin succeeds and wins. His worst nightmare is that Moscow and the provinces will unite and oppose him on issues such as economic performance and corruption.

The boycott of the West Sochi Olympics may serve some purposes outside of Russia. He will show gays and lesbians in the West that the attitude towards them is respectful. In theory, he can also discourage populists and dictators in other countries from using hate for their own purposes. But such a boycott is unlikely to improve the plight of homosexuals in Russia. Putin's PR leaders will present such a boycott as a slap in the face not only to the Kremlin, but to the whole of Russia, and portray it as an arrogant attempt by the West to impose their postmodernist values ​​on Orthodox society. Such an intercession from the side will ultimately lead to the fact that Russian citizens from the LGBT community will seem to be even bigger strangers.

Recall the recent scandal with Pussy Riot. A campaign of international pressure was conducted with celebrities such as Madonna and Paul McCartney. But they did not achieve leniency for the performers who were left behind bars. But Putin, who was in an extremely vulnerable position, managed to restore the balance of power. Before the arrest of Pussy Riot participants, Moscow was swept by popular anger and discontent over the “stolen”, as many believed, elections. Suddenly, all conversations were transferred from voting rights to the right of feminist groups to speak without invitation in Orthodox churches.

In the Snowden case, the threats and sanctions of the West help Putin more than harm him. The Kremlin may point out that the United States refused to sign an extradition treaty with Russia, and that Washington is applying double standards. It is hard to imagine that Americans are deporting a Russian intelligence officer who arrived in New York after exposing the actions of his former superiors to secretly eavesdropping conversations of Russian and foreign citizens.

In such a situation, the reading of condemnatory notations to Putin for the fact that he did not betray a man who exposed the possibly illegal actions of the American spy agencies would only increase the president’s popularity among Russians. And the requirements of the West to expand transparency seem pure hypocrisy. If Putin had succumbed, he would have looked like a spineless leader.

What pressure is correct

On the whole, to punish Putin for inciting homophobia and harboring the whistleblower of American secrets is to strengthen his position in the domestic political struggle. But there are issues in which it is much weaker. If the West wants to put effective pressure on Russia, it should focus on those areas where its values ​​and priorities coincide with the values ​​and priorities of Russian society.

First of all, Western countries should speak more actively and convincingly about the unjust and politically motivated use of the judicial system in Russia. Most Russians feel insecure from the whims and whims of immoral and corrupt judges who pervert laws, ignore evidence and evidence in order to imprison critics of influential politicians or deprive the property of honest businessmen. The conviction of the opposition leader and anti-corruption blogger Alexei Navalny for embezzlement as a result of a trial that was marked by procedural irregularities is just one recent example of abuse by judicial authorities.

Meanwhile, Russians across the country have already become familiar with the tricks that have become a characteristic feature of the election under Putin. Western countries are in a position to find differences between those leaders who were elected more or less honestly, and those whose election was accompanied by credible reports of fraud. After that, they will be able to exclude such dishonestly elected officials from the delegations invited to events organized by the West.

Of course, Putin will condemn such measures, calling them foreign intervention. But since condemnations and accusations from the West will find a response from ordinary Russians in Moscow and the provinces, confirming their beliefs and discontent, they will cause real harm to Putin, and not strengthen his position.

One of the Western sanctions, which caused undoubted irritation among the Kremlin elite, is the “Magnitsky list”. The law adopted within its framework prohibits certain Russian officials from entering the United States, and also requires them to freeze their accounts in American banks. European countries should consider adopting similar laws in order to deprive officials involved in violation of laws and electoral procedures of the right to travel to Europe and to own property there.

The West cannot accelerate the development of civil society and democratic politics in Russia. This can only be done by the Russians themselves. But the West is able to intensify the split between the corrupt elements of the administrative elite, gradually convincing ordinary Russians that it is on their side in the struggle to improve the system of government.

The effectiveness of Western measures will depend not only on the issues put forward in the spotlight, but also on the time they are put forward. There are some indications that the Kremlin's repressions that began last year are running out of steam and are waning. The attempt of Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin to gain legitimacy through victory in fair elections suggests that there are still people in the highest echelons of power who want to do the right thing. At the same time, the deterioration of economic indicators reinforces the need to improve the business climate in order to ensure the resumption of growth.

Although the West criticizes Russia for its flagrant abuses and violations in its judicial and electoral system, it will have to pragmatically cooperate with Moscow on key issues of mutual interest. These are arms control, Syria, Iran, North Korea and so on. These topics are simply too important for the United States to refuse to negotiate with the Russian leadership. In fact, for the most part, these problems for Washington help Moscow more effectively than for Russia the assistance of the United States.

The main issue causing controversy between the West and the current Russian leadership is not whether it adopts homophobic laws, opposes Georgia’s membership in NATO or refuses to deport Snowden. The key problem is that Russian leaders have largely abandoned open and adversarial policies, governing a state without accountability. By taking action against the officials most involved in such violations, the United States and Europe will effectively punish Putin and push Russia in a democratic direction.
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  1. andrei332809
    andrei332809 10 August 2013 07: 24 New
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    the whole article is dedicated to the fact that the backdoors do not know how to deal with Putin. there are many words, but the meaning is one - a great confusion. in any case, as I understand this opus. if not right, I will accept criticism without objection
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 10 August 2013 07: 50 New
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      Totally agree with you. This masterpiece is an example of the subtle implementation of its "shitty" wedge in the minds of people. If it doesn’t work out in a flurry, perhaps a ride of what will come out. They understood - Russia is not afraid of brute force, all their cries, boycotts and ultimatums to her on the drum. So the disrespectable Mr. Treisman (a surname is indicative, isn’t he?) Trying silently, without slogans, "push Russia in a democratic direction." stop Although an interesting sparkle flickered - "... to ban in order to deprive officials involved in the violation of laws and election procedures of the right to travel to Europe and own property there." In my opinion, this little thought is worth coughing up. what
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 10 August 2013 08: 56 New
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        The thought of limiting the possibility of officials in Europe can not cough up. With good money you can live luxuriously in Russia, and the world is not limited to Europe and the States. In general, the author does not understand one thing - the United States itself is perfectly strengthening Putin's position. The way in which they understand democratic values ​​(and with respect to gays, in particular) causes disgust among normal people. We do not need democracy with beings of the middle kind! For the sake of the physical and mental health of our children!
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 11 August 2013 07: 54 New
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          I allow myself to disagree. Of course, you can live with money in Russia, but you don’t live. More precisely, they live during the "extraction", and by hook or by crook, they transfer assets over the hill, investing them in foreign banks and buying other people's property. Thus, there is an outflow of finances from the state, with them solid funds are lost in the form of unpaid taxes, etc. So if, at least in Europe, they press their tail to villains, then for a start this is already quite good.
      2. aepocmam
        aepocmam 10 August 2013 15: 07 New
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        Taking into account that the Tan has already been wiped out by Khodorkovsky and Magnitsky and Pussy Riots, and now by homophobia and Snowden, I think that he eats and does not choke if our government imposes a ban on going abroad for, say, those who already they are very welcome in the West, and who is especially diligently pouring slop into their homeland - all kinds of "bulk", "Kasyanovs", "self-dealers", "Latin", "Ganapol", "German" and the like.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 10 August 2013 18: 23 New
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          Quote: aepocmam
          if our government imposes a ban on traveling abroad for, say, those who are very welcome in the West and who are especially diligent in pouring slop into their homeland

          What are you about !
          No way!
          I think prohibition of return after leaving the West I think many will support!
          yes
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            1. Cynic
              Cynic 10 August 2013 19: 41 New
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              Quote: Anti
              burn bridges before

              Before ?
              What is it like ?
              It seems not before , behind them ! Before it's to aepocmam.
              Quote: Anti
              compatriots is .. to kill, I have no words ..

              They have the same thing, their position in life
              1. Anti
                Anti 10 August 2013 20: 34 New
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                Quote: Cynic
                Before this to aepocmam.

                who or what?
                Quote: Cynic
                Before ?
                What is it like ?

                If they haven’t been burned yet, then before they return, yes ...

                and this vile picture of Western values, for what, why, how to understand this to a working person?
                1. Cynic
                  Cynic 12 August 2013 16: 37 New
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                  Quote: Anti
                  who or what?

                  Naturally who read a little higher
                  Quote: aepocmam
                  Taking into account that the Tan has already been wiped out by Khodorkovsky and Magnitsky and Pussy Riots, and now by homophobia and Snowden, I think that he eats and does not choke if our government imposes a ban on going abroad for, say, those who already they are very welcome in the West, and who is especially diligently pouring slop into their homeland - all kinds of "bulk", "Kasyanovs", "self-dealers", "Latin", "Ganapol", "German" and the like.

                  Quote: Anti
                  this vile picture of western values

                  That is what value is for them and they constantly use it in relation to everything Russian!
                  hi
    2. SPACE
      SPACE 10 August 2013 08: 18 New
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      If the West wants to exert effective pressure on Russia, it should focus on those areas where its values ​​and priorities “MATCH” with the values ​​and priorities of Russian society.

      Now Comrade S_mirnov will come and in the wake of popular anger, will show everyone the right path to the truth, another link to YouTube, with the true exposure of corruption of power, and then Yarosvet will catch up with his collection of dermativators about the same. There is a whole office of phantoms of democracy introduced on the VO website of the Yenirals in the guise of Stalinists and primordially Russian patriots, in order to freely pour the true truth, strikingly coinciding with the truth from a Western democratically liberal society. As Comrade Stalin said, either traitors or fools.
      Z.Y. Although now they may not come ...
      1. esaul
        esaul 10 August 2013 08: 55 New
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        Good afternoon colleagues hi
        Quote: SPACE
        There is an entire office of phantoms of democracy introduced on the VO website of the Yenirals who came to be in the guise of Stalinists and primordially Russian patriots, in order to freely pour the true truth, strikingly coinciding with the truth from a Western democratically liberal society. As Comrade Stalin said, either traitors or fools.

        Well seen buddy, especially about
        Quote: SPACE
        There is a whole office of democracy phantoms embedded on the VO site

        Yesterday, an article appeared in the internet, which very clearly states that one of the main tasks in the destruction of Russia, as a state of the antipode to the world hegemon, is to cultivate a hostile attitude towards the authorities among the inhabitants of the Russian Federation. As we see, it was more recently successful (when the country was lying on its side in convulsions) and now (with obvious successes in many areas) this ideological pressure has increased even more and will intensify because the protest-anxious hamster class shrunk very significantly.
        As for the possible methods of pressure on Russia as a state, today in a news release with an interview with Obama about the possible steps of the states towards Russia, another “insult” was heard about the oppression of homosexuals and Snowden. But, indicatively, the phrase - “We have brought our position to the Russian leadership and will now look WHAT RUSSIA OFFERS TO US for a mutual understanding,” says that in their hegemonic fervor, they did not realize that Russia had nothing to offer them SHOULD NOT. The scandalous situation was created by the states themselves, the shame fell on the head of the states themselves and it is their task to seek ways of mutual understanding in all areas. And then, as in a joke -

        “Abram, why aren't you sleeping.” Tossing and turning all night
        - Oh, Sarah ... I owe ten rubles to Ize. He demands to give. So I worry that already my head hurt ...
        Sarah walks up to the wall - the partition with Izi’s neighbor’s apartment and knocks on her with her fist:
        - Izya! Does Abram owe you money?
        - Yes, Sarah, I have to ..
        - So, he won’t give them to you!
        He lies down again and says:
        “Sleep well, Abram.” Now let her head hurt ...
        So here it is - attempts to shift their problems from a sore head to a healthy one.
        1. SPACE
          SPACE 10 August 2013 10: 50 New
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          Quote: esaul
          the main task of destroying Russia as an antipode to the world hegemon is to cultivate a "hostile attitude towards the authorities" among the inhabitants of the Russian Federation.

          This is key, it’s impossible to break through Russia from the outside, Napoleon, Hitler have confirmed this on their own skin! But there is another way to try to do this from within, through popular discontent with the government, and moreover, having an hour to do with the tops themselves and create these problems, arrange a popular revolution. The first attempt to ruin the Russian Empire was ruined in 1917, but Stalin created the USSR, the second attempt in 1991 ruined the USSR, it was difficult to partially intercept Putin, now they are trying to ruin the Russian Federation by the same methods. A short human life and its own memory, and here it would be time for new generations to turn their eyes to history and popular wisdom, which is the memory of the people and teaches: If the plans of enemies and the leadership of the state are opposite, and your own are equal to the plans of enemies, then you become an enemy state. Do not confuse your own mercantile philistine interests with the interests of a state-society, which, to some extent and time, may not coincide with your own, but this only happens when the time vector tends to zero, but at infinity it has the right direction. As Peter the Great said in the film “At the Beginning of Glorious Deeds”: “Maybe our plans are great, but do you know them?” It is like a hurricane that constantly moves in one direction, and many vortices arising in the hurricane itself can have other directions. The main priority is the scale of action, some see ripples in the water, and some see the tsunami. Recently, someone quoted the words of a dissident Zinoviev on the site, who grew wiser under the age of years and said: “That they aimed at communism, fell into the USSR”, it’s probably scary to see and realize the falsehood of your own convictions at the end of your life! And now, regretting the collapse of the Union and repenting of their own errors. I at 91 immediately gave an unambiguous assessment of what is happening, "Ediot"! So today, many from hatred of certain actions of the authorities, even if these actions really cause reprimand, in a blind faith in good intentions and a better life, they try to shoot at the Authority and get into the Russian Federation, and in the end they will get the Moscow principality and half-starved life mongrel on a leash. Relevant, the question is who has always benefited from this and will benefit, to whom is it beneficial? The answer to which is the understanding of who and whom ultimately manages and controls. Gentlemen, Comrades, it’s enough to divide Russia, Faith and History, decide on priorities because it is also true that “friend of my enemy, my enemy”.
          In the end, as the centuries-old folk wisdom says, “horses do not change horses at the crossing!”
          1. Jahn
            Jahn 11 August 2013 00: 46 New
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            Decent answer
        2. Rink
          Rink 10 August 2013 11: 11 New
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          Quote: esaul
          one of the main tasks for the destruction of Russia .... is the cultivation of a hostile attitude towards the authorities among the inhabitants of the Russian Federation.

          You can recall the words of the Tatar-Mongol temnik Mamai (or, at least ascribed to him). According to the annals, he allegedly said how to destroy neighboring states:
          "Divide the people into yours and strangers, scold the old people and glory to the youth, and then blacken the past. And then this state will be like an oak tree eaten by worms."

          Scold the old people - this is "scold the authorities."
          The fact that we are divided "into friends and foes" is visible even on this site. “They blacken the past,” rewriting our history, starting long ago, starting in the 18th century, starting with the Germans Miller and Schlötzer with their Norman theory. And we are so used to it that many begin to play along without even thinking.
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 10 August 2013 11: 15 New
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            "Scold the old people - this is" scold the authorities. "- It is unlikely that Mamai was stupid and confused in the words" old people "and" power "!
            Russians need to unite, but it is of great importance around whom they unite. If you unite around thieves, there will be nothing good!
            1. rolik
              rolik 10 August 2013 17: 41 New
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              Quote: S_mirnov
              If you unite around thieves, there will be nothing good!

              Tovarisch S-myrnov.
              Let me give you some irrefutable sayings.
              - Zyuganov the thief
              - Zyuganov a traitor to his people
              - Zyuganov populist
              - The whole party of Zyuganov’s thieves and former non-negotiating desks. workers who act on the promptings of the US State Department.
              - Zyuganov and his assistants have an account in American banks, to which the State Department transfers money to him.
              I can write so much more. And you refute please. Only now it seems to me that there will be no refutation, but they will minus Maxim in the rhythm of the machine gun.
              1. smile
                smile 10 August 2013 22: 33 New
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                rolik
                Nothing, but we will add to the rhythm of ShKAS ... :)))
                1. rolik
                  rolik 11 August 2013 20: 15 New
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                  Quote: smile
                  Nothing, but we will add to the rhythm of ShKAS ... :)))
                  drinks
              2. alexng
                alexng 11 August 2013 00: 56 New
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                Quote: rolik
                Tovarisch S-myrnov.


                He is not a "comrade." He is an ordinary ordinary, moreover, an toadstool, trying to pass himself off as edible and immediately minus his opponent in turn, since Goga, aka Zhora, he is Gosh, etc.
                1. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 11 August 2013 10: 11 New
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                  Quote: alexneg
                  and immediately minus the opponent’s turn,

                  I almost do not minus, well, in very rare cases. And I feel sorry for you.
                  1. alexng
                    alexng 11 August 2013 23: 13 New
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                    Everything is fine with me: life is abundant, although I work as an engineer. I wish everyone to work for their own well-being, and not to rely on their uncle. I feel sorry for you. Sit out of work and therefore you have to look for food on the Internet trash. Maybe enough to eat leftovers? So you can catch some kind of chronic disease. Have pity on yourself. Garbage can not be brought to good.
              3. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 11 August 2013 10: 09 New
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                The word "Comrade" is written without errors as I wrote.
                And about Zyuganov, I completely agree with you! Moreover to the syndromes described by you the majority of deputies of the State Duma are ill. and all the leaders of the Duma factions! +
                1. rolik
                  rolik 11 August 2013 20: 18 New
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                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  The word "Comrade" is written without errors as I wrote.

                  Thanks for the grammar lesson. I specifically emphasized the sharpness of pronunciation, it sounds more serious soldier
                  Tovarisch !!! let's go hi ))))
            2. smile
              smile 10 August 2013 22: 30 New
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              S_mirnov
              Well, and why are the gentlemen of the opposition united solely around crooks and thieves, who, moreover, regularly go to Congress with reports, how is everything bad here and require tough measures against Russia? You, I see, are a fan of Yu-tuba, well, joke there the speeches of Nemtsov, Chirikova, and so on in front of the American congressmen (even I had such such eyes).
              don’t you notice who and how is trying to set the people against “Power”? Who comes up with chants and slogans? For example, a rogue and a thief Navalny, who graduated from Yell's special courses preparing shots for the orange revolutions (on the Internet, poke, you will find the name of the courses, this thief has “gone through”), he is terribly proud that it was in his headquarters that a chant about crooks and thieves was invented.
              You see, our leadership has broken so much firewood that you can justifiably criticize it endlessly ... but not to notice its achievements is already a clinic ... let alone go to a swamp herd. rallying around crooks and thieves, yes. besides, foreign agents of influence are either direct betrayal or idiocy of pure water ... sorry.
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 11 August 2013 10: 16 New
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                Quote: smile
                let alone go to the swamp herd. rallying around crooks and thieves, yes. moreover, foreign agents of influence, either direct betrayal,

                Then I agree with you, so I don’t go to the “swamp herd”! I understand very clearly that American agents of influence are fighting the crook that has seized power in the Russian Federation solely with the aim of robbing and destroying the Russian people themselves.
                It’s just that you are being presented with the false choice of the media - either for the domestic crook or for the State Department. There are no other options.
            3. Rink
              Rink 15 August 2013 15: 20 New
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              Quote: S_mirnov
              ... It is unlikely that Mamai was stupid and confused in the words "old people" and "power"!

              I agree, he did not confuse anything.
              It’s just that in those days the elders, respected by the people, represented real (not official) power. The opinion of the elders was necessarily taken into account by both the prince and the people.
              So there are no contradictions.

              And the fact that Mamai was expressing himself at the terminology that is not accepted now is so, it was different times ...
          2. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 10 August 2013 12: 47 New
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            "" Divide the people into friends and foes, scold the old people and glory to the youth, and then blacken the past. And then this state will look like an oak tree worm-eaten. "
            let's analyze the words of a wise person:
            "Divide the people into yours and strangers" - officials, oligarchs and the Russian people oppose them (ordinary citizens).
            "scold the elderly" - de-Stalinization, the position of WWII veterans
            "and glory to the youth," - Ours, Seliger, EP.
            "and then blacken the past" - a scam with Katyn, the blackening of the USSR. The recognition of Solzhenitsyn and dissidents.
            "And then this state will be like an oak tree worm-eaten." - you can’t say better!
        3. smile
          smile 10 August 2013 22: 13 New
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          esaul
          Greetings !!!
          Glad you are back! Mom didn’t tell you that skipping is bad? :))) Please visit the site more often - in my opinion, your position here is simply necessary. And not that we will swear at you with bad words ... :)))
    3. Constantine
      Constantine 10 August 2013 08: 40 New
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      Quote: andrei332809
      the whole article is dedicated to the fact that the backdoors do not know how to deal with Putin. there are many words, but the meaning is one - a great confusion. in any case, as I understand this opus. if not right, I will accept criticism without objection


      Rather, the article is suddenly "The Matrix failed." bully Their world, which they pulled into their eyes, began to fail due to serious inconsistencies with the real world smile
    4. experienced
      experienced 10 August 2013 10: 12 New
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      That’s why we don’t read an article in the Russian press entitled “How should Obama not be punished”? Or vice versa, "How should I punish Obama"? And there are so many options:
      - send to Libya with the Democracy Inspectorate;
      - appoint a squad leader in the gang of the SSA;
      - require participation in an orgy of a gay club;
      Vobschem "sea of ​​offers" wink
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 10 August 2013 11: 03 New
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        Yes, the fact that Russia pursues an independent and independent policy, paying less attention to the howls of the Western "democrats" seems to hurt the Americans. They apparently have a panic there, at that pace you look and the white flag is thrown out.
        In general, Western civilization has exhausted itself, the crisis is obvious. Goodbye America.
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 10 August 2013 12: 07 New
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        Quote: seasoned
        That’s why we don’t read an article in the Russian press entitled “How should Obama not be punished”?

        Lesha, adequacy is a sign of the absence of schizophrenia, that’s the whole reason fellow
      3. smile
        smile 10 August 2013 22: 36 New
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        experienced
        Sooooo, why didn’t you mention the most popular options - put on a stake, burn on a fire, or at least pull an eye on your ass? :))))
        1. rolik
          rolik 11 August 2013 20: 23 New
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          Quote: smile
          Sooooo, why didn’t you mention the most popular options - put on a stake, burn on a fire, or at least pull an eye on your ass? :))))

          That's right, but here's an eye on the ass is already (if you look closely) is not very severe. rather fun)))) At the same time glamorous, the white big eye pulled over to the black ass - it’s black and white right)))))
    5. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 10 August 2013 10: 48 New
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      Quote: andrei332809
      the whole article is dedicated to the fact that the backdoors do not know how to deal with Putin.

      - as easy as pie! It is enough to confiscate the property of Russian officials and oligarchs overseas and arrest the account. Moreover, after the trial in Britain, AbrAmovich and AbramOvich, the legal framework was brought under this. And to top it off, offshore. That's all!
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 10 August 2013 11: 33 New
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        Quote: S_mirnov
        That's all!

        To further aggravate the state’s economy, and then you are the first to point out the consequences, modestly ignoring the reasons. Everything that happens today in the world on a global scale is very complex and not directly obvious, it is a bunch of broken lines and you shouldn't draw any conclusions on the basis of them, look at the main trend ...
        Those who have the highest power, are likened to the diviners of the Delphic oracle, are forced to confusely speak and do because their direct glory and action can cause consequences that change the essence of what is happening, and ultimately hinder the original essence.
        Z.Y. This is all done in fairy tales according to the pike command ... wassat
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 10 August 2013 12: 01 New
          -3
          Quote: SPACE
          Those who have the highest power, are likened to the soothsayers of the Delphic oracle, are forced to confusely speak and do because their direct glory and action can cause consequences that change the essence of what is happening,

          This is what you have bent! It turns out that you need to talk confused and act with the back streets, otherwise you can influence something in life. And you need stability!

          As a rule, those who pursue criminal goals, those whose goals are open and positive, are cringing and dark - they don’t need to darken, the people will support them anyway!
          1. SPACE
            SPACE 10 August 2013 16: 16 New
            +4
            Quote: S_mirnov
            This is what you have bent! It turns out that you need to talk confused and act with the back streets, otherwise you can influence something in life.

            Sorry, but from talking with you there is a feeling that you are talking with a child, if it’s true, if it’s a consequence of democratic conquest, the events of 91 of the year, for which they fought, they ran into something. But why do you think so primitively, directly, like the walking experiment of Professor Preobrazhensky, do you have a reflex to black or short-sighted color blindness? Google for what the soothsayers spoke confusing allegories. Words of authority can also “move the waves”.
            Quote: S_mirnov
            those whose goals are open and positive - you don’t need to darken, the people will support them anyway!

            This is ideal, but are you sure that only your people will hear the real words of power? Do you seriously believe that rulers can always speak directly? I have to disappoint you, this is not at all, not always, basically you are told only that you can understand, digest and not get too excited. In order to at least come closer to understanding the words and actions of the authorities, it is not enough to possess the brain of an ant, and even more so to drive senseless ripples in the water. Caesar's Caesar ... Let the beholder see, the hearer shall hear.
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 11 August 2013 10: 23 New
              -1
              Quote: SPACE
              This is ideal, but are you sure that only your people will hear the real words of power?

              Stupid you do. The authorities cannot tell the truth to their people, because they are afraid that enemies will hear it?
              It seems you are simply afraid to admit that you are being deceived and come up with excuses for yourself about all kinds of allegories. And the ability to clearly and clearly state your thoughts has always been appreciated! Darken and blabber - those who want to deceive, deceive you!
              1. SPACE
                SPACE 11 August 2013 21: 35 New
                +1
                Quote: S_mirnov
                Stupid you do. The authorities cannot tell the truth to their people, because they are afraid that enemies will hear it?

                Information can be different, something can be reported, but something can not, do you know what secret information is? Are you telling your children the bare truth too? But there is such information that you can’t talk about, but you can hint (allegory), for an intelligent and insightful person this is understandable, if not, then no.
                Quote: S_mirnov
                It seems you are simply afraid to admit that you are being deceived and come up with excuses for yourself about all kinds of allegories. And the ability to clearly and clearly state your thoughts has always been appreciated! Darken and blabber - those who want to deceive, deceive you!

                laughing
      2. Povit
        Povit 10 August 2013 18: 18 New
        +2
        It is enough to confiscate the property of Russian officials and oligarchs overseas and arrest the account.

        You probably think that the West for noble reasons does not want to throw this leash on our officials? If they had it, there would be no reason for this article. Now Putin would go on a short leash and say that they will allow it. Well, if this is not, draw conclusions. And do not trust the information coming from our Western well-wishers
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 10 August 2013 18: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: Povit
          arrest tanned bills.

          Do you think that our thieves will be able to use these accounts?
          Aha schaz-zz !
          Neither they nor Russia will ever see this money!
          Example BB money, how much he has left at his departure ?!
          Exactly ! It will be the same with others! The only thing they can count on is interest or investment in the local business and that's it!
          bully
    6. Corsair
      Corsair 10 August 2013 12: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: andrei332809
      zadapodusy do not know how to deal with Putin

      GDP, in their understanding, represents only one part of Russia, bone, not capable of modern thinking. And this is good for us, let them "wander" in their errors, and WE know our way ...
    7. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 10 August 2013 13: 59 New
      +4
      Mexican drug dealers hire US military to crack down on rivals

      For money and drugs, US Army personnel themselves engage in punitive operations or share combat experience.



      August 06, 2013 photo: © AFP

      “Recently, we often record cases where US Army soldiers are engaged in similar matters,” Fred Burton, vice president of Stratfor Global Intelligence, a private intelligence company, told Fox News. According to him, the fact that the American professional military is cooperating with drug cartels causes serious concern.

      The company's website has many examples of how US defenders become thugs in drug gangs. So, 22-year-old Michael Apodaka, who served at the Fort Bliss military base and in the 11th artillery missile defense brigade, became a mercenary in the Juárez cartel. For $ 5 thousand, he was supposed to eliminate Jose Daniel González Galeana, a member of a gang of competitors. The 29-year-old soldier Kevin Corley was offered $ 50 thousand and five kilograms of cocaine for the seizure of "goods" by competitors. In order to cope with the task, Corley had to use his own weapons.

      Recently it became known that the assassination of former Golfo cartel lawyer Juan Herero Chapa was also carried out by US troops. According to the FBI, as of April 2011, there were at least 53 Mexican Mafia mercenaries in the ranks of the US Armed Forces.

      Experts explain the current situation by the fact that during the war in Iraq, everyone was recruited into the army. Therefore, many former homeland defenders, using the acquired skills, do not disdain "earning on the side."
    8. kanevsvv
      kanevsvv 10 August 2013 16: 17 New
      0
      I agree with you the article smacks of "crap" and complete confusion
      1. alex popov
        alex popov 11 August 2013 08: 39 New
        +1
        The article is a bonanza for the psychiatrist. The megalomania in every paragraph goes through the roof! "We must punish Putin and save Russia!" Punishers unfinished ... Do they take too much on themselves? It is time for them to understand that they need to live according to their capabilities, and not according to their wishes. Wishlist cracks already right and left, but no, everyone again seeks to "punish and save." The Bruce Willis Complex?
        Interestingly, the “esteemed” professor can give at least one positive example of “saving the world in the American way”, when the “declared aloud” thoughts of “saving everyone” corresponded to reality !? Where did the intervention of the pendostan benefit anyone else besides a few "interested parties" from the pendostan itself?
        In short, while in the West in favor of such a pathos-hysterical nonsense, we will not get closer. The problems of Russia are the problems of Russia. We must solve them without the help of like these ... "specialists."
    9. Van
      Van 10 August 2013 22: 33 New
      0
      After reading this article, there is a deja vu effect, as if you are listening to VoA radio and in the yard the beginning of the 80s ...
  2. Fedor
    Fedor 10 August 2013 07: 32 New
    18
    It will be interesting if the gay people do not go to the Olympics in Sochi because of the “oppression” of the husbands. How will they later explain this to their children, "they say that they say that they are oppressing us pederasts," so what?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 August 2013 07: 51 New
      15
      Quote: Fedor
      It will be interesting if the gay people do not go to the Olympics in Sochi because of the “oppression” of the husbands.

      Obama blurted out even more curiously
      The Russian team at the Sochi Olympics may be weaker, since there are no representatives of sexual minorities among Russian athletes, US President Barack Obama said at a press conference on Friday.
      In short, I need to pile on fagots for the most I do not want in Sochi. Well, let him be proud of his gays. Each country is proud of something, culture, achievements, history, and the USA is nothing more to gays laughing
      1. mogus
        mogus 10 August 2013 08: 06 New
        +7
        In Qatar and CA sLGBT people are executed. To those who live with us, what is the business of the USA ..? There is nothing to cling to anymore.
        1. smile
          smile 10 August 2013 22: 45 New
          0
          mogus
          But there, as I understand it, as in some (let's say) countries of Central Asia, it flourishes ... how to put it ... goat or sheep ... livestock ... - bestiality, which, in principle, the same as pederasty, and nobody seems to execute them there for that ... :)))
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 10 August 2013 08: 13 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        .Each country is proud of something, culture, achievements, history, and the United States is gay with nothing more

        So this is the main achievement of democracy, laughing !
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        In short, I need to pile on fagots for the most I do not want in Sochi.

        "I don’t want it at all" is their innermost desire in erotic fantasies wink laughing
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 10 August 2013 09: 17 New
          +4
          Quote: Tersky
          "I don’t want it at all" is their innermost desire in erotic fantasies

          Hello Vit! Imagine only their commentators, they will quickly share gay athletes and normal men and will specifically seek out these in different teams. And if gays suddenly take second place, then he will immediately pour another medal in the USA laughing
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 10 August 2013 09: 41 New
            14
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            will specifically seek out such in different teams.

            laughing, easy -
      3. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 10 August 2013 08: 14 New
        +9
        Good morning, Alexander! hi
        Well, Barak Sarayev and annealed!
        The Russian team at the Sochi Olympics may be weaker, since there are no representatives of sexual minorities among Russian athletes, US President Barack Obama said at a press conference on Friday.

        What is it? They will exhibit in women’s sports individuals with male primary sexual characteristics, imagining themselves women like transgender people and similar nature errors ?? I don’t see another way to get an advantage due to gays
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 10 August 2013 09: 22 New
          +4
          Quote: lewerlin53rus
          transsexuals and the like mistakes of nature?

          Trans will be their chip in 2018, the further the worse laughing
          Quote: lewerlin53rus
          I don’t see another way to get an advantage due to gays

          Yeah, they will forcibly remake the athletes' men in women, but then there will be a deficit in men's competitions, what should I do ??? Come up with a third floor IT wassat
          Eugene hi
          1. esaul
            esaul 10 August 2013 10: 01 New
            +7
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yeah, they will forcibly remake the athletes' men in women, but then there will be a deficit in men's competitions, what should I do ??? Come up with a third floor IT

            Alexander hi
            Look what info is. So the process of doing “white” from “black” and vice versa (from boys - girls and vice versa) is already in full swing!

            ------------ As a result, today, according to the Williams Institute (UCLA Law School, UCLA Law School), about 700 000 Americans are transformed into transgender people and sodomites, and this figure will continue to grow - in including thanks to such “camps”.
            The degeneration of ordinary Americans is carefully maintained at the state level - a special National Center for Transgender Equality has been created .--------------

            http://communitarian.ru/novosti/obrazovanie/genocid_po_polovomu_priznaku_kak_iz_

            malchikov_delayut_devochek_kak_degeneraty_ubivayut_ameriku_svobodoy_gendernogo_v

            ybora_02082013 /
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 10 August 2013 16: 06 New
              +7
              Quote: esaul
              about 700 Americans turned into transgender and sodomito

              If we have to fight them, I’m scared to imagine what their army will be like request The army of Satan himself is not otherwise.
              Valera hi
    2. edge
      edge 10 August 2013 08: 10 New
      +6
      we only lost the battle, and europines ... we decided that we won the war, but the next operation is ours ..... But Putin is quite familiar with the concept of operational art and the West is furious that they are being replayed, and that’s the flow of bile , and lies from the fact that they could not finish ............
    3. datur
      datur 10 August 2013 10: 00 New
      +2
      [quote = Fedor] It will be interesting if the gay people do not go to the Olympics in Sochi because of the “oppression” of the husbands. How do they later explain this to their children, "they say that they are oppressing us pederasts," so what? --- And in this ped ... situation, how will their children be now? laughing
    4. mihasik
      mihasik 10 August 2013 14: 24 New
      +1
      What children? How are they going to give birth to them, through ... well? They are also specially bred to reduce the world's population).
      1. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich 10 August 2013 21: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: mihasik
        What children? How are they going to give birth to them, through ... well? They are also specially bred to reduce the world's population).

        Apparently the doctrine of the "golden billion" in action. Started to cut back in their countries ...
        This infection does not particularly extend to Russia! That freaks scum!
    5. novobranets
      novobranets 10 August 2013 16: 07 New
      +3
      "No one is offended more than I am by some laws against gays and lesbians adopted in Russia," the president said. Did I understand this statement correctly? So worried about "their"? wassat http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/international/2013/08/130809_obama_russia_presser.s
      html
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 11 August 2013 10: 26 New
        -1
        I read your comments and understand that the foes of Russia are to blame for fagots, pirates and American adoptive parents laughing
  3. lesnik340
    lesnik340 10 August 2013 07: 41 New
    17
    No need to go to Russia with your charter !!! This is the first.
    Secondly, our judicial practice is quite worthy of our businessmen.
    Thirdly, Moscow and the region. not yet Russia and bet only on them
    initially be a loser.
    Putin is a smart leader and understands that the Russian people need to be kept in hedgehogs.
    For a simple person it’s violet to bleat America and Europe, we can’t baptize children with them.
    1. alone
      alone 10 August 2013 10: 56 New
      +3
      unfortunately they have already climbed. The bottom line is how to throw them out of there. That's why the West is furious
  4. patriot464
    patriot464 10 August 2013 07: 49 New
    +8
    What is this professor generally paid for? He doesn’t know a damn thing about us.
    1. alone
      alone 10 August 2013 10: 57 New
      +4
      in principle, they don’t know much. confuse the Czech Republic and Chechnya, the stinger is called an anti-tank missile, etc.
    2. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 10 August 2013 11: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: patriot464
      He doesn’t know a damn thing about us.

      But barks loudly. Ah, Moska .... The main thing is to get more moseks so that there is more noise.
  5. Uncle Kostya
    Uncle Kostya 10 August 2013 07: 49 New
    +3
    The only proposal they have is to support Navalny and his ilk in order to overthrow Putin.
  6. Dovmont
    Dovmont 10 August 2013 07: 54 New
    17
    If Putin will fight against worldwide pederasty-then I will be on his side !!! (Pederasty is a scientific term)
    1. dirty trick
      dirty trick 10 August 2013 14: 38 New
      +8
      + dear!
      By the way, as if the Yankees were not indignant - in Russia, it was the LGBT people who were granted some exclusive rights. proof - see the photo below:
      1. arkady149
        arkady149 11 August 2013 10: 29 New
        0
        And it would not be bad to give pederasts some privileges such as switching to red, everywhere without a queue, you look and there will be more order: "Where did you get? Ah, you are one of these ..." and a nod to the sign "pederasts are served out of turn.
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  8. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 10 August 2013 08: 02 New
    +6
    Instead of taking care of your economic situation, by joint efforts to pull the world out of the economic crisis and solve pressing social problems, etc. The West is only concerned about gay rights. And no one touched or oppressed them. Well, they laughed and twisted a finger at the temple. But you have to create a problem by getting some special rights for them. By doing this they only increase the negative attitude towards them. The West is only thinking about how to punish Putin. For what? for not dancing to the tune and bending his line. And by doing this they only add to his popularity. And this phrase directly killed
    By taking action against the officials most involved in such violations, the United States and Europe will effectively punish Putin and push Russia in a democratic direction.

    On the one hand, it’s kind of ridiculous (about officials, we don’t like them anyway, and it’s just people and officials who don’t give a damn about these problems) But the second part of the phrase causes a burning desire to take up the gun
    1. edge
      edge 10 August 2013 08: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: lewerlin53rus
      Instead of taking care of your economic situation

      they are concerned about the economic situation, war is their way of well-being, so they set fire to where they can reach a match ......
    2. 1976AG
      1976AG 10 August 2013 09: 03 New
      +1
      And no one really touches gays here! Introduce this ... Brrrr !!!
  9. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 10 August 2013 08: 03 New
    +7
    British actor Stephen Fry and numerous LGBT activists advocated a boycott of the Sochi Winter Olympics in 2014 in protest of Russia's recent actions against gays and lesbians. According to media reports, gay bars in the US began to dispose of their Stolichnaya vodka stocks.
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 10 August 2013 11: 30 New
      +1
      Well, let them boycott. Among пFedikov good athletes like no and not expected.
  10. novobranets
    novobranets 10 August 2013 08: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: novobranets
    Totally agree with you. This masterpiece is an example of the subtle implementation of its "shitty" wedge in the minds of people. If it doesn’t work out in a flurry, perhaps a ride of what will come out. They understood - Russia is not afraid of brute force, all their cries, boycotts and ultimatums to her on the drum. So the disrespectable Mr. Treisman (a surname is indicative, isn’t he?) Trying silently, without slogans, "push Russia in a democratic direction." stop Although an interesting sparkle flickered - "... to ban in order to deprive officials involved in the violation of laws and election procedures of the right to travel to Europe and own property there." In my opinion, this little thought is worth coughing up. what
  11. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 10 August 2013 08: 09 New
    +7
    It's time for our industry to start producing dildos from pressed (cast) TNT to combat sodomites. A way to detonate your taste.
  12. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 10 August 2013 08: 20 New
    +9
    Davie Volodya of all these pi ... roars seized in power in the West. Normal people of all countries for you.
  13. Lukich
    Lukich 10 August 2013 08: 24 New
    +9
    ... the most interesting thing is that the author correctly did a brief analysis of the risks for Putin - the article is correct so I put a minus (I do not like it) ...

    ... and the fact that the Americans are able to work in this field we see on the example of the USSR, now they want to ruin Russia ...

    ... you have to be careful - "THE ENEMY DOES NOT NAP"
  14. krasin
    krasin 10 August 2013 08: 26 New
    +4
    Medvedev accurately said about Syria for the Americans: “They act like an elephant in a china shop, they do it, and then they don’t know what to do with it.” And this expression also applies to the situation with Snowder.
    Americans have become so tolerant that they no longer think anything.! I honestly humanly even feel sorry for them! fool
  15. maxcor1974
    maxcor1974 10 August 2013 08: 28 New
    11
    I liked the idea of ​​depriving property and accounts in the western banks of our officials. It’s high time, otherwise we’ve got used to holding everything abroad. And if the Americans would have adopted such a law to punish Putin, then in fact they would do a great service to all of Russia. And then many are used to grabbing here and skipping there ... (Example: Pekhtin, Knyshov and co.)
  16. Coward
    Coward 10 August 2013 08: 39 New
    +4
    Photo "talking", "this is pi ... c. There is no turning back." Only one has “sadness from a“ deceased “hope for peace” on his face, and another “khan of my peace prize”.
  17. erased
    erased 10 August 2013 08: 43 New
    -13
    The opinion of the enemy is always interesting to know. It's funny that they in the West still consider Putin the leader of Russia and the guardian of the Russians. Although, in fact, Putin has long been an enemy of the Russian people. But a friend of anyone, from Tajiks to Arabs.
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    2. Peaceful military
      Peaceful military 10 August 2013 20: 30 New
      +1
      My dear man, if, as you say, “Putin has long been an enemy of the Russian people,” then who is not the enemy of the Russian people? On (VR) Nemtsov & Co? Prokhorov? Khodorkovsky? Berezovsky? Ah, sorry, he was killed by the "bloody gebe." WHO? Too shy to ask, maybe you?
      1. aviamed90
        aviamed90 11 August 2013 17: 22 New
        -1
        Peaceful military

        Lord! You are discussing a specific person - Putin V.V.
        So discuss it!

        And here Navalny and others like him?
  18. prophetic
    prophetic 10 August 2013 08: 44 New
    +7
    I hope Medvedev will never become president again. Clowns in power are too dangerous for Russia
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 10 August 2013 09: 12 New
      +5
      Yes, he de facto never was. Putin had to abide by the letter of the constitution. No more. And if in doubt, remember how at the congress of United Russia DAM asked the GDP to take the post of prime minister. Very revealing!
      1. prophetic
        prophetic 10 August 2013 09: 47 New
        +3
        during the iPhone, Libya was defeated, Gaddafi was killed. We must admit that Dima is not suitable for the leaders of our country, because excessive peace is deadly in our time, now we need a tough leader, not a mumble who rejoices every time he sees a tablet. It’s better to make him an admin Smesharik site, there is good, there is modernization in the form of many gadgets
  19. domokl
    domokl 10 August 2013 09: 05 New
    +7
    Quote: novobranets
    They understood - Russia is not afraid of brute force, all their cries, boycotts and ultimatums to her on the drum.

    I haven’t read more nonsense since a month. The professor clearly not only does not know Russia, but lives somewhere in the beginning of the 90's. Putin is like a scarecrow for him. And he seems to do nothing, for which he can yell and cheat, but on the other what a terrible side.
    Well, dear compatriots, it turns out we love gays and other perverts, but Putin forbids us from this ... And we simply adore pedophiles. It’s nice to read, when even overseas, they know more about us than we do.
    For that, it’s understandable why Abama in politics is like an elephant in a china shop. With such political scientists, there’s no other way.
  20. andrey777
    andrey777 10 August 2013 09: 11 New
    +1
    How they (the West) want to learn Russia all the time, but all this is a rough game. It seems that in the West there are no smart people who can play a delicate game, all of their steps are already calculated in advance by the Kremlin (let alone the Kremlin, the common people.)
  21. Krsk
    Krsk 10 August 2013 09: 12 New
    +1
    Processor of the crack got smoked by a balcony
  22. yurii p
    yurii p 10 August 2013 09: 17 New
    +1
    The author of the article is a client of a psychiatric clinic.
  23. polly
    polly 10 August 2013 09: 19 New
    +4
    And how touching it is that the West stands for "improving the system of government" in Russia!
    I just want to bow to them in their hooves ... laughing
  24. valokordin
    valokordin 10 August 2013 09: 38 New
    +4
    Want to get Putin down? find his money. Plant, if possible, foreign oligarchs such as Abramovich and a hedgehog with them and prove that they stole money thanks to the GDP policy, include all Russian billionaires, including Chubais, in Magnitsky’s list. If the American gang does this, then there may be a result. But the Americans are not interested in this and their stink will remain a bourgeois stink.
  25. svskor80
    svskor80 10 August 2013 09: 49 New
    +4
    Let the West give those who keep money and property there with an eye to go to permanent residence, stealing in Russia as much as possible. It would be real help in the fight against corruption, but they do not need it - on the contrary, they are just waiting for such. As for the LGBT people, what problems - let them move to Europe and the USA, now no one is holding anyone. Well, pi ... ry and others are not needed in Russia.
  26. tupolev-95
    tupolev-95 10 August 2013 09: 53 New
    11
    As the West did not understand Russia, it will never understand. I personally use both hands to ensure that all Russian officials are on Magnitsky’s list, that they can be safely in Russia and not be able to open a single foreign bank account. The West puts on our fagots, well what can I say, good luck!
  27. PValery53
    PValery53 10 August 2013 10: 13 New
    +2
    The arrogant attempts of the West to punish someone (especially Russia!) Arbitrarily provokes the desire to "drag them in the face in bumps." For each such attempt, they must respond with unprofitable consequences. For hypocritical attacks on different rights, we need to put up a response "blizzard" about their rights. The West and Amers have a lot to complain about. And “chew” them with the same approach - include the same fool as theirs .- “Treatment” will be successful!
  28. poccinin
    poccinin 10 August 2013 10: 13 New
    +1
    such a feeling about the article. one hundred aliens wrote it. correctly Dostoevsky wrote. “RUSSIA IS NOT UNDERSTANDED BY THE MIND AND DO NOT MEASURE ARSHIN” and here even there is no mind. In the West there are probably no worthy intelligent analysts. RUSSIA IS A GREAT COUNTRY WITH A RICH (great) story that needs to be respected. If it weren’t RUSSIA. That would not be, mattress workers. In their civil war. the fleet of RUSSIA. was off the coast of America. and England was afraid of a conflict with RUSSIA.
  29. Alexander borey
    Alexander borey 10 August 2013 10: 20 New
    10
    Punish Putin laughing fool This is a Zionist article, vomit from the media. I read a few lines of this diarrhea and that's enough. The author Daniel Traisman is a Russophobe and a dreamer. They say about such people - they get richer with a thought.
    His "work" is articles - "Russia is a normal country, like Mexico," "Nobody knows how to modernize Russia without risk to the elite that is associated with the regime," and other abomination. In short, this ghoul Treisman is an ardent hater of Russia, Orthodoxy and everything that is dear and sacred to the Russian people.


    Punishing Putin is a pink dream for the Anglo-Saxons, but they messed up the times, at least 10 years. Soon we will punish you.
    How does this even appear on the VO site? BOLD MINUS. negative
  30. 6216390
    6216390 10 August 2013 10: 28 New
    +1
    The West is able to strengthen the split between the corrupt elements of the administrative elite, gradually convincing ordinary Russians that it stands on their side in the struggle to improve the system of public administration.

    Yes, the cunning of the West has no limits, but somehow we must fight this.
  31. Gardamir
    Gardamir 10 August 2013 10: 40 New
    +9
    I do not care for Putin, this article or against. I know for sure that this article is against me, against our Russian traditions.
  32. a52333
    a52333 10 August 2013 10: 47 New
    0
    We are still about five pauses, and then we'll see who will teach whom and what. angry
  33. user
    user 10 August 2013 10: 51 New
    +2
    The author of the article, in American opinion, is an expert on this issue, but on ours he does not swim at all in this topic. American action plan for NPOs. But if they have all such experts (Brzezinski left), then the result is predictable.
  34. individual
    individual 10 August 2013 10: 59 New
    +2
    Article-dirty cheat sheet for the enemies of Russia.
  35. Marconi41
    Marconi41 10 August 2013 11: 21 New
    +8
    Punish Putin ?! President of the Russian Federation ?! We have already seen quite a few such attempts. It’s enough to recall the G-8 recently. Everyone who is trying to do this hears behind them a friendly laughter above themselves. Personally, I am not an advocate or supporter of Putin, but I am impressed by how he makes idiots out of his own ill-wishers.
  36. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 10 August 2013 11: 23 New
    +2
    What pressure is correct

    I acknowledge any form of pressure expressed in suicidal form. The more such Western scribblers finish their speeches with suicide, the sooner everything will become clear.
  37. 12345
    12345 10 August 2013 11: 23 New
    +3
    How not to punish Putin ...


    The key phrase here is "punish Putin."

    With the naked eye you can see HOW their hands itch!

    But, alas, "hands are short." And this is good!
  38. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 10 August 2013 11: 26 New
    +3
    What difference does it make there, across the ocean, who our president is, what our affairs are, how we live. It would be better if the deutroit were restored and the Gulf of Mexico was cleaned, but somehow we ourselves.
  39. Andrey KZ
    Andrey KZ 10 August 2013 11: 50 New
    +4

    In such a situation, reading condemning notations to Putin for not betraying the person who exposed perhaps illegal actions of American espionage departments will only increase the president’s popularity among Russians. And Western demands for greater transparency seem pure water hypocrisy. If Putin lost, he would have looked like a spineless leader.
    Remove the highlighted words and the quote becomes true.
    deprive property of honest businessmen
    How, being an honest businessman, can you make such fabulous fortunes in a short period of time?
  40. 128mgb
    128mgb 10 August 2013 11: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov

    Yeah, they will forcibly remake the athletes' men in women, but then there will be a deficit in men's competitions, what should I do ??? Come up with a third floor IT wassat
    Eugene hi

    I’ll go further: are they organizing their own gay olympiad? Perhaps, but then the question arises, what will the sports be called? And I imagine "gambling" - gently palpating each other, the athletes are trying to throw the opponent on the shoulder blades. Or make you turn your rear.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 August 2013 16: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: 128mgb
      And I imagine "gay fight" - gently palpating each other

      Whoever takes away, he won laughing
  41. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 10 August 2013 11: 56 New
    +2
    I read the article. I was surprised.

    I believed that the Americans are still less "tolerasts" than the Europeans.

    It turned out that journalists are not so much concerned with corruption and theft in Russia as (I quote): “the plight of homosexuals in Russia,” “Putin incites homophobia,” “Putin needs to be punished for homophobia,” etc.

    Just crying Yaroslavna over the poor homosexual!

    Homosexuals do not like))) Is that a stick)))

    It is not clear why homosexuals showed themselves in such a way that their Europeans and Americans protect them so much. Tolerast, damn it ...

    PS Hurry, these homosexuals would die, or something ... Urgent need "homosexual flu"!
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 10 August 2013 13: 16 New
      0
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      Urgent need "homosexual flu"

      To create such a disease, you need real scientists. Those scientists whom we have the opportunity to contemplate are able to cut loot, eat and remove worms, but are unable to create anything serious. They still have not learned how to seriously get rid of cancer, they can not do anything for the serious prevention of strokes. I am silent about my heart, even so it is a machine that has been working since the birth of man.
      Well, how does a homo scientist come across? He will nullify all the work! am
    2. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 10 August 2013 21: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      PS Hurry, these homosexuals would die, or something ... Urgent need "homosexual flu"!

      So it’s kind of like AIDS, if there is, as a rule, a “professional” disease of homosexuals, even sarcoma (cancer), which they have in their ass! But something is not greatly reduced the number of cattle ... Need flu! Or some kind of dysentery, specifically transmitted ... lol
      1. RDS-1
        RDS-1 17 August 2013 21: 51 New
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        Quote: AlNikolaich
        So it’s kind of like AIDS, if there is, as a rule, a “professional” disease of homosexuals, even sarcoma (cancer), which they have in their ass!

        Ugum s. At the dawn of the advent of AIDS, he was called Cancer (cancer gay), supposedly "fag cancer." True, they, s * ki, do not die from him at all.
  42. vitas
    vitas 10 August 2013 11: 58 New
    +4
    I like very much when the ass is burning very strongly in the West, Putin did well. The blue ones still have fun, maybe they can even burn balalaikas and punish the bears, how they can do it laughing. They don’t go to someone else’s monastery with their charter, they very much confuse their rotten EuroPU with Russia, which still has values ​​and a head on its shoulders.
  43. Ferocious Bambra
    Ferocious Bambra 10 August 2013 12: 10 New
    +4
    With this approach, they will repeat the story of Napoleon and Hitler .....
    ....... Napoleon was also surprised by the fact that the Russian peasants did not support him
  44. APASUS
    APASUS 10 August 2013 12: 17 New
    +3
    So much noise from perverts!
    Scientists have proven that about 12% of the population are non-traditional.
    This number does not change over time and does not depend on nationality.
    SO WHY SHOULD I LIVE BY THE LAWS OF MINORITIES?
    1. smile
      smile 10 August 2013 23: 06 New
      0
      APASUS
      There are far fewer true incurable perverts.
      10-12 percent - latent, with different deviations, of varying degrees. That is, the vast majority of them, with normal education, will never become fagots. The key word is "under normal education" ...
  45. Artillerist
    Artillerist 10 August 2013 12: 21 New
    +6
    "But the West ...................... is gradually convincing ordinary Russians that it is on their side in the struggle to improve the system of government."

    Yes, the West can neither eat nor sleep, being on the side of ordinary Russians. Remember how in the 90s, thanks to the "fatherly" care of the West, tens of millions of Russians disappeared without a trace in the CIS.
  46. Tartary
    Tartary 10 August 2013 12: 56 New
    +7
    I won’t even try to understand how THESE geyropeytsy are building relationships with pi.do.rami, as well as these ... Dorov and their Tolerasts in western Russia, but I know for sure that almost east of the Urals and in the Urals all 100% of Russian citizens towards these persons (muzzles) of a non-traditional orientation are unambiguous - .. sing at the stake and not a drop of sperm ... Let yourself bite themselves in the bouts.
    And in case of suspicion of molestation previously not involved - castration and count.

    Putin is doing everything right!

    And most likely even a lot of what I would do does not finish it ...
  47. mihasik
    mihasik 10 August 2013 13: 02 New
    +2
    There is only one understanding of this opus: we are on the opposite political, ideological, etc. the poles. It's like + and -. On contact, a short circuit occurs and, as a result, a complete blackout or fire. And we are with them NEVER we will not find a mutually agreeing point of contact. All these negotiations, agreements and meetings boil down to one thing: to postpone or even terminate the influence of the PARTNER’s power pole and increase its own. Each of the parties is trying to increase its force field in different ways and one of: (due to such “antibodies” as Gorbachev, Yeltsin, etc. in our case), and when + or - wins, then the WAR will end never ended, but the victory of one of the "values" will lead to a lack of movement, stagnation and collapse of the whole world. So THE FIGHT CONTINUES THE LORD-COMRADES, I CONGRATULATE ALL!
  48. egor 1712
    egor 1712 10 August 2013 13: 20 New
    +2
    How do Westerners want at least something to find against Putin. Well, they’re climbing out of the skin, an entire professor of political science at the University of California at Los Angeles builds his scientific work on this. Nothing more to do, the problems in this world are over.
  49. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 10 August 2013 13: 48 New
    +2
    Only one thing was said from the article: the author of the article considers the Russians stupid. And Putin for him is a competitor in the struggle for control over the Russians. And the fact that Putin’s intellect was recognized is a fact.

    For some reason, I personally do not consider the Americans stupid, they just have stupid authorities and the elections are fictitious ...
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