How not to punish Putin ("Foreign Affairs", USA)

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How not to punish Putin ("Foreign Affairs", USA)Given Putin’s political vulnerability, an open clash with the West because of the rights of homosexuals and Edward Snowden, which has become inevitable due to Washington’s cancellation of the summit of the American and Russian presidents, this is exactly what the Kremlin needs. The West should narrow its criticism of Russia, focusing on those issues on which its views coincide with those of the Russian people.

Punish Putin! Today it has become a general insanity. When Moscow provided temporary shelter to ANB secrets whistleblower Edward Snowden, US Senator John McCain proposed expanding the Magnitsky list, which includes Russian officials who are banned from entering the US, and speeding up the deployment of an anti-missile defense system in Europe and immediately admit Georgia to NATO. British actor Stephen Fry and numerous LGBT activists advocated a boycott of the Sochi Winter Olympics in 2014 in protest against Russia's recent actions against gays and lesbians. According to media reports, gay bars in the United States began to get rid of their stocks of Stolichnaya vodka.

But the most important event happened on Wednesday, when US President Barack Obama canceled a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, which was to be held in September in Moscow. At the same time, he, among other things, expressed his displeasure at the provision of asylum to the Kremlin by Snowden.

Indignation at Russia's actions is quite understandable. Snowden is accused of committing serious crimes, and Washington is naturally interested in bringing this man to justice. The recent law to ban “propaganda of homosexuality” in Russia has created an atmosphere of aggression, in which intolerant citizens attack Russians of nontraditional sexual orientation and post horrible images of violence against them on the Internet.

But before you rush into battle, those who want to punish Russia should think about two points. First, why does Putin behave in this way? And secondly, will these sanctions harm Putin or benefit him? Given that Putin is currently fighting for political survival, a public confrontation with the West will help him stay afloat. Therefore, Americans and Europeans who wish to change the course of Moscow should act carefully and carefully so as not to play along with Putin.

Unintended consequences

Back in 2012 for the presidency, Putin brushed aside all the reassuring conversations of former President Dmitry Medvedev about modernization. Thus, he exposed the contradictions within Russian society and in the ruling circles of the country. The president has lost the support of Russia's intellectual and cultural elite, as well as a significant part of the business community. His popularity ratings, which have exceeded 60% in recent months, create a deceptive impression of stability. We can expect a decrease in this rating, since it is closely related to the economic indicators of the country, and they have recently begun to deteriorate.

In such a situation, the Kremlin, conducting its campaign of enacting repressive laws, carrying out investigations with intimidation of the accused and speaking with anti-American remarks, has two objectives. First, he wants to intimidate and bring back into operation the administrative elite, which, under Medvedev, began to allow itself any liberties. The second goal is to drive a wedge between the liberal opposition, which is concentrated mainly in Moscow and St. Petersburg, and its remaining supporters in the more conservative and traditional provinces. On both fronts, the West, by its actions, can either complicate or facilitate the achievement of these goals to Putin.

The Kremlin, with its shameless homophobia, follows a simple political logic. As for gay rights, Putin is on the side of the Russian majority, while many of his liberal critics do not. As for LGBT rights, then in Russian society today there are practically the same mood as in the American one thirty years ago. When World Values ​​Survey asked Russian respondents in 2006, whether homosexuality is acceptable, 66 percent of respondents answered negatively. In 1982, exactly the same number of Americans gave the same answer to this question.

With the changing attitudes of the West, it is becoming increasingly difficult for American and European politicians to exploit homophobia. But in Russia, the situation is different. Since the central squares of Moscow filled 2011 in December with crowds of anti-government protests, Putin has begun to focus on sexual issues. In his first public comments on the demonstrations, he stated that he mistakenly took white ribbons for the condoms that the protesters wore. The goal was to create a sense of awkwardness when Russians think of democratic activists. To the extent that Kremlin PR people are able to portray the protesters as a culturally alien element, Putin succeeds and wins. His worst nightmare is that Moscow and the provinces will unite and oppose him on issues such as economic performance and corruption.

The boycott of the West Sochi Olympics may serve some purposes outside of Russia. He will show gays and lesbians in the West that the attitude towards them is respectful. In theory, he can also discourage populists and dictators in other countries from using hate for their own purposes. But such a boycott is unlikely to improve the plight of homosexuals in Russia. Putin's PR leaders will present such a boycott as a slap in the face not only to the Kremlin, but to the whole of Russia, and portray it as an arrogant attempt by the West to impose their postmodernist values ​​on Orthodox society. Such an intercession from the side will ultimately lead to the fact that Russian citizens from the LGBT community will seem to be even bigger strangers.

Recall the recent scandal with Pussy Riot. A campaign of international pressure was conducted with celebrities such as Madonna and Paul McCartney. But they did not achieve leniency for the performers who were left behind bars. But Putin, who was in an extremely vulnerable position, managed to restore the balance of power. Before the arrest of Pussy Riot participants, Moscow was swept by popular anger and discontent over the “stolen”, as many believed, elections. Suddenly, all conversations were transferred from voting rights to the right of feminist groups to speak without invitation in Orthodox churches.

In the Snowden case, the threats and sanctions of the West help Putin more than harm him. The Kremlin may point out that the United States refused to sign an extradition treaty with Russia, and that Washington is applying double standards. It is hard to imagine that Americans are deporting a Russian intelligence officer who arrived in New York after exposing the actions of his former superiors to secretly eavesdropping conversations of Russian and foreign citizens.

In such a situation, the reading of condemnatory notations to Putin for the fact that he did not betray a man who exposed the possibly illegal actions of the American spy agencies would only increase the president’s popularity among Russians. And the requirements of the West to expand transparency seem pure hypocrisy. If Putin had succumbed, he would have looked like a spineless leader.

What pressure is correct

On the whole, to punish Putin for inciting homophobia and harboring the whistleblower of American secrets is to strengthen his position in the domestic political struggle. But there are issues in which it is much weaker. If the West wants to put effective pressure on Russia, it should focus on those areas where its values ​​and priorities coincide with the values ​​and priorities of Russian society.

First of all, Western countries should speak more actively and convincingly about the unjust and politically motivated use of the judicial system in Russia. Most Russians feel insecure from the whims and whims of immoral and corrupt judges who pervert laws, ignore evidence and evidence in order to imprison critics of influential politicians or deprive the property of honest businessmen. The conviction of the opposition leader and anti-corruption blogger Alexei Navalny for embezzlement as a result of a trial that was marked by procedural irregularities is just one recent example of abuse by judicial authorities.

Meanwhile, Russians across the country have already become familiar with the tricks that have become a characteristic feature of the election under Putin. Western countries are in a position to find differences between those leaders who were elected more or less honestly, and those whose election was accompanied by credible reports of fraud. After that, they will be able to exclude such dishonestly elected officials from the delegations invited to events organized by the West.

Of course, Putin will condemn such measures, calling them foreign intervention. But since condemnations and accusations from the West will find a response from ordinary Russians in Moscow and the provinces, confirming their beliefs and discontent, they will cause real harm to Putin, and not strengthen his position.

One of the Western sanctions, which caused undoubted irritation among the Kremlin elite, is the “Magnitsky list”. The law adopted within its framework prohibits certain Russian officials from entering the United States, and also requires them to freeze their accounts in American banks. European countries should consider adopting similar laws in order to deprive officials involved in violation of laws and electoral procedures of the right to travel to Europe and to own property there.

The West cannot accelerate the development of civil society and democratic politics in Russia. This can only be done by the Russians themselves. But the West is able to intensify the split between the corrupt elements of the administrative elite, gradually convincing ordinary Russians that it is on their side in the struggle to improve the system of government.

The effectiveness of Western measures will depend not only on the issues put forward in the spotlight, but also on the time they are put forward. There are some indications that the Kremlin's repressions that began last year are running out of steam and are waning. The attempt of Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin to gain legitimacy through victory in fair elections suggests that there are still people in the highest echelons of power who want to do the right thing. At the same time, the deterioration of economic indicators reinforces the need to improve the business climate in order to ensure the resumption of growth.

Although the West criticizes Russia for its flagrant abuses and violations in its judicial and electoral system, it will have to pragmatically cooperate with Moscow on key issues of mutual interest. These are arms control, Syria, Iran, North Korea and so on. These topics are simply too important for the United States to refuse to negotiate with the Russian leadership. In fact, for the most part, these problems for Washington help Moscow more effectively than for Russia the assistance of the United States.

The main issue causing controversy between the West and the current Russian leadership is not whether it adopts homophobic laws, opposes Georgia’s membership in NATO or refuses to deport Snowden. The key problem is that Russian leaders have largely abandoned open and adversarial policies, governing a state without accountability. By taking action against the officials most involved in such violations, the United States and Europe will effectively punish Putin and push Russia in a democratic direction.
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  1. +41
    10 August 2013 07: 24
    the whole article is dedicated to the fact that the backdoors do not know how to deal with Putin. there are many words, but the meaning is one - a great confusion. in any case, as I understand this opus. if not right, I will accept criticism without objection
    1. +20
      10 August 2013 07: 50
      Totally agree with you. This masterpiece is an example of the subtle introduction of its "crap" wedge into the consciousness of people. If it doesn't work out in a snap, maybe something will come out by rolling. They understood that Russia is not afraid of brute force, all their screams, boycotts and ultimatums are on the drum. So the disrespectful Mr. Treisman (the name is indicative, isn't it?) Is trying to quietly, without slogans, "push Russia in a democratic direction." stop Although an interesting spark flashed - "... to prohibit in order to deprive officials involved in the violation of laws and electoral procedures of the right to travel to Europe and to own property there." In my opinion, this thought is worth coughing up. what
      1. +19
        10 August 2013 08: 56
        The thought of limiting the possibility of officials in Europe can not cough up. With good money you can live luxuriously in Russia, and the world is not limited to Europe and the States. In general, the author does not understand one thing - the United States itself is perfectly strengthening Putin's position. The way in which they understand democratic values ​​(and with respect to gays, in particular) causes disgust among normal people. We do not need democracy with beings of the middle kind! For the sake of the physical and mental health of our children!
        1. 0
          11 August 2013 07: 54
          Let me disagree. Of course, you can live with money in Russia, but you don't live. More precisely, they live during "mining", and by hook or crook they take assets over the hill, investing them in other people's banks and buying someone else's property. Thus, there is an outflow of finances from the state, along with them substantial funds are lost in the form of unpaid taxes, etc. So if, at least in Europe, the tail of the villains is pinned down, then for a start it is already quite good.
      2. aepocmam
        +1
        10 August 2013 15: 07
        Taking into account that tan has already been wiped off by Khodorkovsky and Magnitsky and Pussy Riots, and now by homophobia and Snowden, I think that he will eat and will not choke if our government imposes a ban on travel abroad for, let's say, those who They are very welcome in the West, and those who especially diligently pour slop into their homeland - all kinds of "bulk", "Kasyanov", "sobzdyachek", "Latin", "Ganapol", "Nemtsov" and the like.
        1. +8
          10 August 2013 18: 23
          Quote: aepocmam
          if our government imposes a ban on traveling abroad for, say, those who are very welcome in the West and who are especially diligent in pouring slop into their homeland

          What are you about !
          No way!
          I think prohibition of return after leaving the West I think many will support!
          Yes
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            1. +1
              10 August 2013 19: 41
              Quote: Anti
              burn bridges before

              Before ?
              What is it like ?
              It seems not before , behind them ! Before it's to aepocmam.
              Quote: Anti
              compatriots is .. to kill, I have no words ..

              They have the same thing, their position in life
              1. Anti
                +1
                10 August 2013 20: 34
                Quote: Cynic
                Before this to aepocmam.

                who or what?
                Quote: Cynic
                Before ?
                What is it like ?

                If they haven’t been burned yet, then before they return, yes ...

                and this vile picture of Western values, for what, why, how to understand this to a working person?
                1. 0
                  12 August 2013 16: 37
                  Quote: Anti
                  who or what?

                  Naturally who read a little higher
                  Quote: aepocmam
                  Taking into account that tan has already been wiped off by Khodorkovsky and Magnitsky and Pussy Riots, and now by homophobia and Snowden, I think that he will eat and will not choke if our government imposes a ban on travel abroad for, let's say, those who They are very welcome in the West, and those who especially diligently pour slop into their homeland - all kinds of "bulk", "Kasyanov", "sobzdyachek", "Latin", "Ganapol", "Nemtsov" and the like.

                  Quote: Anti
                  this vile picture of western values

                  That is what value is for them and they constantly use it in relation to everything Russian!
                  hi
    2. +11
      10 August 2013 08: 18
      If the West wants to put effective pressure on Russia, it should focus on those areas where its values ​​and priorities "COINCIDE" with the values ​​and priorities of Russian society.

      Now Comrade S_mirnov will come and in the wake of popular anger, will show everyone the right path to the truth, another link to YouTube, with the true exposure of corruption of power, and then Yarosvet will catch up with his collection of dermativators about the same. There is a whole office of phantoms of democracy introduced on the VO website of the Yenirals in the guise of Stalinists and primordially Russian patriots, in order to freely pour the true truth, strikingly coinciding with the truth from a Western democratically liberal society. As Comrade Stalin said, either traitors or fools.
      Z.Y. Although now they may not come ...
      1. +16
        10 August 2013 08: 55
        Good afternoon colleagues hi
        Quote: SPACE
        There is an entire office of phantoms of democracy introduced on the VO website of the Yenirals who came to be in the guise of Stalinists and primordially Russian patriots, in order to freely pour the true truth, strikingly coinciding with the truth from a Western democratically liberal society. As Comrade Stalin said, either traitors or fools.

        Well seen buddy, especially about
        Quote: SPACE
        There is a whole office of democracy phantoms embedded on the VO site

        Yesterday, an article appeared in the internet, which very clearly states that one of the main tasks in the destruction of Russia, as a state of the antipode to the world hegemon, is to cultivate a hostile attitude towards the authorities among the inhabitants of the Russian Federation. As we see, it was more recently successful (when the country was lying on its side in convulsions) and now (with obvious successes in many areas) this ideological pressure has increased even more and will intensify because the protest-anxious hamster class shrunk very significantly.
        As for the possible methods of pressure on Russia as a state, today in some news release with an interview with Obama about the possible steps of the states in relation to Russia, there were repeated "offenses" about the oppression of homosexuals and Snowden. But, which is indicative, the phrase - "We brought our position to the Russian leadership and now we will see WHAT RUSSIA WILL OFFER US to search for mutual understanding", says that in their hegemonic fervor, they never realized that Russia was offering them anything SHOULD NOT. The scandalous situation was generated by the states themselves, the shame fell on the heads of the states themselves and it is their task - to look for ways of mutual understanding in all areas. And then, as in the joke -

        “Abram, why aren't you sleeping.” Tossing and turning all night
        - Oh, Sarah ... I owe ten rubles to Ize. He demands to give. So I worry that already my head hurt ...
        Sarah walks up to the wall - the partition with Izi’s neighbor’s apartment and knocks on her with her fist:
        - Izya! Does Abram owe you money?
        - Yes, Sarah, I have to ..
        - So, he won’t give them to you!
        He lies down again and says:
        “Sleep well, Abram.” Now let her head hurt ...
        So here it is - attempts to shift their problems from a sore head to a healthy one.
        1. +9
          10 August 2013 10: 50
          Quote: esaul
          The main task of destroying Russia, as a state antipode to the world hegemon, is to cultivate among the inhabitants of the Russian Federation "a hostile attitude towards the authorities."

          This is key, it is impossible to break through Russia from the outside, Napoleon, Hitler confirmed this in their own skin! But there is another way to try to do this from the inside, through popular dissatisfaction with the government, and at the same time, having a relationship with the top and creating these problems, arrange a people's revolution. The first attempt to destroy the Russian Empire was destroyed in 1917, but Stalin created the USSR, the second attempt in 1991 destroyed the USSR, it was with difficulty that Putin managed to partially intercept, now they are trying to destroy the Russian Federation with the same methods. Human life and own memory are short, and here it would be time for new generations to turn their eyes to history and folk wisdom, which is the memory of the people and teaches: If the plans of enemies and the leadership of the state are opposite, and your own are EQUAL to the plans of enemies, then you become an enemy state. One should not confuse one's own mercantile philistine interests with the interests of the state-society, which, to some extent and time, may not coincide with their own, but this is only when the time vector tends to zero, and at infinity has the right direction. As Peter the Great said in the film "At the Beginning of Glorious Deeds": "Maybe our plans are great, but you know them?" It is like a hurricane that constantly moves in one direction, and many eddies that arise in the hurricane itself can have other directions. The main priority is the scale of action, some see ripples in the water, and some see a tsunami. Recently on the site someone quoted the words of the dissident Zinoviev, who, in his old age, grew wiser and said: "That they were aiming at communism, ended up in the USSR", it is probably scary at the end of life to see the light and realize the falsity of their own beliefs! And now, regretting the collapse of the Union and repenting of their own delusions. At 91, I immediately gave an unambiguous assessment of what was happening "ediots"! So today, many, out of hatred for some actions of the authorities, even if these actions really cause censure, in blind faith in good intentions and a better life, try to shoot at Power and end up in the Russian Federation, and in the end they will get into the Moscow principality and a half-starved life mongrels on a leash. Relevant, the question is who has always benefited from this and will benefit, who benefits from it? The answer to which is the understanding of who and who ultimately controls and cope. Gentlemen, Comrades, stop dividing Russia, Faith and History, decide on your priorities, for it is also true that “a friend of my enemy, my enemy”.
          In the end, as the age-old folk wisdom says, "you don't change horses on the crossing"!
          1. Jahn
            0
            11 August 2013 00: 46
            Decent answer
        2. +9
          10 August 2013 11: 11
          Quote: esaul
          one of the main tasks for the destruction of Russia .... is the cultivation of a hostile attitude towards the authorities among the inhabitants of the Russian Federation.

          You can recall the words of the Tatar-Mongol temnik Mamai (or, at least ascribed to him). According to the annals, he allegedly said how to destroy neighboring states:
          "Divide the people into friends and foes, scold the old people and glorify the youth, and then the rabble of the past. And then this state will look like an oak, eaten by worms."

          Scold old people - this is "scold power".
          The fact that we are divided "into friends and foes" can be seen even on this site. They "blacken the past", rewriting our history, for a long time, since the 18th century, starting with the Germans Miller and Schlözer with their Norman theory beginning. And we are so used to it that many begin to play along without even thinking.
          1. S_mirnov
            -3
            10 August 2013 11: 15
            “Scold old people - this is" scold power. "- It is unlikely that Mamai was stupid and got confused in the words" old people "and" power "!
            Russians need to unite, but it is of great importance around whom they unite. If you unite around thieves, there will be nothing good!
            1. rolik
              +7
              10 August 2013 17: 41
              Quote: S_mirnov
              If you unite around thieves, there will be nothing good!

              Tovarisch S-myrnov.
              Let me give you some irrefutable sayings.
              - Zyuganov the thief
              - Zyuganov a traitor to his people
              - Zyuganov populist
              - The whole party of Zyuganov’s thieves and former non-negotiating desks. workers who act on the promptings of the US State Department.
              - Zyuganov and his assistants have an account in American banks, to which the State Department transfers money to him.
              I can write so much more. And you refute please. Only now it seems to me that there will be no refutation, but they will minus Maxim in the rhythm of the machine gun.
              1. +3
                10 August 2013 22: 33
                rolik
                Nothing, but we will add to the rhythm of ShKAS ... :)))
                1. rolik
                  0
                  11 August 2013 20: 15
                  Quote: smile
                  Nothing, but we will add to the rhythm of ShKAS ... :)))
                  drinks
              2. +4
                11 August 2013 00: 56
                Quote: rolik
                Tovarisch S-myrnov.


                He is not "tovarisch". He is signed-ordinary, and a toadstool mushroom trying to pass itself off as edible and immediately minus the opponent with a line, since Goga, he is Zhora, he is Gosha, etc.
                1. S_mirnov
                  -1
                  11 August 2013 10: 11
                  Quote: alexneg
                  and immediately minus the opponent’s turn,

                  I almost do not minus, well, in very rare cases. And I feel sorry for you.
                  1. +1
                    11 August 2013 23: 13
                    Everything is fine with me: life is abundant, although I work as an engineer. I wish everyone to work for their own well-being, and not to rely on their uncle. I feel sorry for you. Sit out of work and therefore you have to look for food on the Internet trash. Maybe enough to eat leftovers? So you can catch some kind of chronic disease. Have pity on yourself. Garbage can not be brought to good.
              3. S_mirnov
                +1
                11 August 2013 10: 09
                The word "Comrade" is spelled without errors as I wrote.
                And about Zyuganov, I completely agree with you! Moreover to the syndromes described by you the majority of deputies of the State Duma are ill. and all the leaders of the Duma factions! +
                1. rolik
                  +1
                  11 August 2013 20: 18
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  The word "Comrade" is spelled without errors as I wrote.

                  Thanks for the grammar lesson. I specifically emphasized the sharpness of pronunciation, it sounds more serious soldier
                  Tovarisch !!! let's go hi ))))
            2. +2
              10 August 2013 22: 30
              S_mirnov
              Well, and why are the gentlemen of the opposition united solely around crooks and thieves, who, moreover, regularly go to Congress with reports, how is everything bad here and require tough measures against Russia? You, I see, are a fan of Yu-tuba, well, joke there the speeches of Nemtsov, Chirikova, and so on in front of the American congressmen (even I had such such eyes).
              do you really not notice who and how is trying to turn the people against "Vlast"? Who comes up with chants and slogans? For example, a swindler and a thief Navalny, who graduated from Yell's special courses preparing personnel for orange revolutions (poke around in the internet, you will find the name of the courses the full program of which this thief "passed") is terribly proud that it was in his headquarters that a chant about swindlers and thieves was invented.
              You see, our leadership has broken so much firewood that you can justifiably criticize it endlessly ... but not to notice its achievements is already a clinic ... let alone go to a swamp herd. rallying around crooks and thieves, yes. besides, foreign agents of influence are either direct betrayal or idiocy of pure water ... sorry.
              1. S_mirnov
                -1
                11 August 2013 10: 16
                Quote: smile
                let alone go to the swamp herd. rallying around crooks and thieves, yes. moreover, foreign agents of influence, either direct betrayal,

                Here I agree with you, so I don't go to the "swamp herd"! I understand very clearly that American agents of influence are fighting a crook who has seized power in the Russian Federation solely for the purpose of robbing and destroying the Russian people themselves.
                It’s just that you are being presented with the false choice of the media - either for the domestic crook or for the State Department. There are no other options.
            3. +1
              15 August 2013 15: 20
              Quote: S_mirnov
              ... It is unlikely that Mamai was stupid and got confused in the words "old people" and "power"!

              I agree, he did not confuse anything.
              It’s just that in those days the elders, respected by the people, represented real (not official) power. The opinion of the elders was necessarily taken into account by both the prince and the people.
              So there are no contradictions.

              And the fact that Mamai was expressing himself at the terminology that is not accepted now is so, it was different times ...
          2. S_mirnov
            -7
            10 August 2013 12: 47
            "" Divide the people into friends and foes, scold the old people and glorify the youth, and then the rabble of the past. And then this state will look like an oak, eaten by worms. "
            let's analyze the words of a wise person:
            "Divide the people into friends and foes" - officials, oligarchs and the Russian people (ordinary citizens) oppose them.
            "scold old people" - de-Stalinization, the position of WWII veterans
            "and glory to the youth," - Nashi, Seliger, EP.
            "and then the rabble of the past" - a scam with Katyn, denigration of the USSR. Recognition of Solzhenitsin and the dissidents.
            "And then this state will look like an oak, eaten by worms." - you can't say better!
        3. 0
          10 August 2013 22: 13
          esaul
          Greetings !!!
          Glad you are back! Mom didn’t tell you that skipping is bad? :))) Please visit the site more often - in my opinion, your position here is simply necessary. And not that we will swear at you with bad words ... :)))
    3. Constantine
      +5
      10 August 2013 08: 40
      Quote: andrei332809
      the whole article is dedicated to the fact that the backdoors do not know how to deal with Putin. there are many words, but the meaning is one - a great confusion. in any case, as I understand this opus. if not right, I will accept criticism without objection


      The article is more about that suddenly "The Matrix crashed." bully Their world, which they pulled into their eyes, began to fail due to serious inconsistencies with the real world smile
    4. +4
      10 August 2013 10: 12
      That is why we do not read articles in the Russian press with the title "How Not to Punish Obama"? Or, on the contrary, "How should Obama be punished?" And there are so many options:
      - send to Libya with the Democracy Inspectorate;
      - appoint a squad leader in the gang of the SSA;
      - require participation in an orgy of a gay club;
      In general, "sea of ​​proposals" wink
      1. Ruslan_F38
        +5
        10 August 2013 11: 03
        Yes, the Americans are apparently offended by the fact that Russia is pursuing an independent and independent policy, paying less and less attention to the howling of Western "democrats". They probably have panic there, you look at such a pace and the white flag will be thrown out.
        In general, Western civilization has exhausted itself, the crisis is obvious. Goodbye America.
      2. +6
        10 August 2013 12: 07
        Quote: seasoned
        That is why we do not read articles in the Russian press with the title "How Not to Punish Obama"?

        Lesha, adequacy is a sign of the absence of schizophrenia, that’s the whole reason fellow
      3. 0
        10 August 2013 22: 36
        experienced
        Sooooo, why didn’t you mention the most popular options - put on a stake, burn on a fire, or at least pull an eye on your ass? :))))
        1. rolik
          0
          11 August 2013 20: 23
          Quote: smile
          Sooooo, why didn’t you mention the most popular options - put on a stake, burn on a fire, or at least pull an eye on your ass? :))))

          That's right, but here's an eye on the ass is already (if you look closely) is not very severe. rather fun)))) At the same time glamorous, the white big eye pulled over to the black ass - it’s black and white right)))))
    5. S_mirnov
      -1
      10 August 2013 10: 48
      Quote: andrei332809
      the whole article is dedicated to the fact that the backdoors do not know how to deal with Putin.

      - as easy as pie! It is enough to confiscate the property of Russian officials and oligarchs overseas and arrest the account. Moreover, after the trial in Britain, AbrAmovich and AbramOvich, the legal framework was brought under this. And to top it off, offshore. That's all!
      1. +4
        10 August 2013 11: 33
        Quote: S_mirnov
        That's all!

        To further aggravate the state’s economy, and then you are the first to point out the consequences, modestly ignoring the reasons. Everything that happens today in the world on a global scale is very complex and not directly obvious, it is a bunch of broken lines and you shouldn't draw any conclusions on the basis of them, look at the main trend ...
        Those who have the highest power, are likened to the diviners of the Delphic oracle, are forced to confusely speak and do because their direct glory and action can cause consequences that change the essence of what is happening, and ultimately hinder the original essence.
        Z.Y. This is all done in fairy tales according to the pike command ... wassat
        1. S_mirnov
          -3
          10 August 2013 12: 01
          Quote: SPACE
          Those who have the highest power, are likened to the soothsayers of the Delphic oracle, are forced to confusely speak and do because their direct glory and action can cause consequences that change the essence of what is happening,

          This is what you have bent! It turns out that you need to talk confused and act with the back streets, otherwise you can influence something in life. And you need stability!

          As a rule, those who pursue criminal goals, those whose goals are open and positive, are cringing and dark - they don’t need to darken, the people will support them anyway!
          1. +4
            10 August 2013 16: 16
            Quote: S_mirnov
            This is what you have bent! It turns out that you need to talk confused and act with the back streets, otherwise you can influence something in life.

            Sorry, but from talking with you there is a feeling that you are talking with a child, if it’s true, if it’s a consequence of democratic conquest, the events of 91 of the year, for which they fought, they ran into something. But why do you think so primitively, directly, like the walking experiment of Professor Preobrazhensky, do you have a reflex to black or short-sighted color blindness? Google for what the soothsayers spoke confusing allegories. Words of authority can also “move the waves”.
            Quote: S_mirnov
            those whose goals are open and positive - you don’t need to darken, the people will support them anyway!

            This is ideal, but are you sure that only your people will hear the real words of power? Do you seriously believe that rulers can always speak directly? I have to disappoint you, this is not at all, not always, basically you are told only that you can understand, digest and not get too excited. In order to at least come closer to understanding the words and actions of the authorities, it is not enough to possess the brain of an ant, and even more so to drive senseless ripples in the water. Caesar's Caesar ... Let the beholder see, the hearer shall hear.
            1. S_mirnov
              -1
              11 August 2013 10: 23
              Quote: SPACE
              This is ideal, but are you sure that only your people will hear the real words of power?

              Stupid you do. The authorities cannot tell the truth to their people, because they are afraid that enemies will hear it?
              It seems you are simply afraid to admit that you are being deceived and come up with excuses for yourself about all kinds of allegories. And the ability to clearly and clearly state your thoughts has always been appreciated! Darken and blabber - those who want to deceive, deceive you!
              1. +1
                11 August 2013 21: 35
                Quote: S_mirnov
                Stupid you do. The authorities cannot tell the truth to their people, because they are afraid that enemies will hear it?

                Information can be different, something can be reported, but something can not, do you know what secret information is? Are you telling your children the bare truth too? But there is such information that you can’t talk about, but you can hint (allegory), for an intelligent and insightful person this is understandable, if not, then no.
                Quote: S_mirnov
                It seems you are simply afraid to admit that you are being deceived and come up with excuses for yourself about all kinds of allegories. And the ability to clearly and clearly state your thoughts has always been appreciated! Darken and blabber - those who want to deceive, deceive you!

                laughing
      2. Povit
        +2
        10 August 2013 18: 18
        It is enough to confiscate the property of Russian officials and oligarchs overseas and arrest the account.

        You probably think that the West for noble reasons does not want to throw this leash on our officials? If they had it, there would be no reason for this article. Now Putin would go on a short leash and say that they will allow it. Well, if this is not, draw conclusions. And do not trust the information coming from our Western well-wishers
        1. +1
          10 August 2013 18: 29
          Quote: Povit
          arrest tanned bills.

          Do you think that our thieves will be able to use these accounts?
          Aha schaz-zz !
          Neither they nor Russia will ever see this money!
          Example BB money, how much he has left at his departure ?!
          Exactly ! It will be the same with others! The only thing they can count on is interest or investment in the local business and that's it!
          bully
    6. +2
      10 August 2013 12: 07
      Quote: andrei332809
      zadapodusy do not know how to deal with Putin

      GDP, in their understanding, personifies only one part of Russia, bone, incapable of modern thinking. And this is good for us, let them "wander" in their delusions, and WE know our way ...
    7. +4
      10 August 2013 13: 59
      Mexican drug dealers hire US military to crack down on rivals

      For money and drugs, US Army personnel themselves engage in punitive operations or share combat experience.



      August 06, 2013 photo: © AFP

      “Recently, we often record cases where US Army soldiers are engaged in similar matters,” Fred Burton, vice president of Stratfor Global Intelligence, a private intelligence company, told Fox News. According to him, the fact that the American professional military is cooperating with drug cartels causes serious concern.

      The company's website has many examples of how US defenders become thugs in drug gangs. So, 22-year-old Michael Apodaka, who served at the Fort Bliss military base and in the 11th artillery missile defense brigade, became a mercenary in the Juárez cartel. For $ 5 thousand, he was supposed to eliminate Jose Daniel González Galeana, a member of a gang of competitors. The 29-year-old soldier Kevin Corley was offered $ 50 thousand and five kilograms of cocaine for the seizure of "goods" by competitors. In order to cope with the task, Corley had to use his own weapons.

      Recently it became known that the assassination of former Golfo cartel lawyer Juan Herero Chapa was also carried out by US troops. According to the FBI, as of April 2011, there were at least 53 Mexican Mafia mercenaries in the ranks of the US Armed Forces.

      Experts explain the current situation by the fact that during the war in Iraq, everyone was recruited into the army. Therefore, many former homeland defenders, using the acquired skills, do not disdain "earning on the side."
    8. kanevsvv
      0
      10 August 2013 16: 17
      I agree with you the little article smells of "shitty" and complete confusion
      1. alex popov
        +1
        11 August 2013 08: 39
        The article is a gold mine for a psychiatrist. Megalomania in every paragraph just rolls over! "We must punish Putin and save Russia!" The punishers are unfinished ... Are they taking too much on themselves? It's time for them to understand that they need to live according to their possibilities, and not according to their wishes. Wishlist already cracking right and left, but no, all again strive to "punish and save." Bruce Wilis complex?
        Interestingly, a "highly respected" professor can give at least one positive example of "saving the world in the American way", when "declared aloud" thoughts "to save everyone" corresponded to reality !? Where has pendostan's intervention benefited anyone other than a few "stakeholders" from the pendostan itself?
        In short, while in the West such pretentious-hysterical nonsense is in favor, we will not get closer. Russia's problems are Russia's problems. We must solve them without the help of such ... "specialists".
    9. Van
      0
      10 August 2013 22: 33
      After reading this article, there is a deja vu effect, as if you are listening to VoA radio and in the yard the beginning of the 80s ...
  2. +18
    10 August 2013 07: 32
    It will be curious if the Gay Europeans do not go to the Olympics in Sochi because of the "oppression" of sodomy. How will they then explain this to their children, "they say they oppress us pederasts", so what?
    1. +15
      10 August 2013 07: 51
      Quote: Fedor
      It will be curious if the Gay Europeans do not go to the Olympics in Sochi because of the "oppression" of sodomy.

      Obama blurted out even more curiously
      The Russian team at the Sochi Olympics may be weaker, since there are no representatives of sexual minorities among Russian athletes, US President Barack Obama said at a press conference on Friday.
      In short, I need to pile on fagots for the most I do not want in Sochi. Well, let him be proud of his gays. Each country is proud of something, culture, achievements, history, and the USA is nothing more to gays laughing
      1. mogus
        +7
        10 August 2013 08: 06
        In Qatar and CA sLGBT people are executed. To those who live with us, what is the business of the USA ..? There is nothing to cling to anymore.
        1. 0
          10 August 2013 22: 45
          mogus
          But there, as I understand it, as in some (let's say) countries of Central Asia, it flourishes ... how to put it ... goat or sheep ... livestock ... - bestiality, which, in principle, the same as pederasty, and nobody seems to execute them there for that ... :)))
      2. +7
        10 August 2013 08: 13
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        .Each country is proud of something, culture, achievements, history, and the United States is gay with nothing more

        So this is the main achievement of democracy, laughing !
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        In short, I need to pile on fagots for the most I do not want in Sochi.

        "I really don't want to" is their innermost desires in erotic fantasies wink laughing
        1. +4
          10 August 2013 09: 17
          Quote: Tersky
          "I really don't want to" is their innermost desires in erotic fantasies

          Hello Vit! Imagine only their commentators, they will quickly share gay athletes and normal men and will specifically seek out these in different teams. And if gays suddenly take second place, then he will immediately pour another medal in the USA laughing
          1. +14
            10 August 2013 09: 41
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            will specifically seek out such in different teams.

            laughing, easy -
      3. +9
        10 August 2013 08: 14
        Good morning, Alexander! hi
        Well, Barak Sarayev and annealed!
        The Russian team at the Sochi Olympics may be weaker, since there are no representatives of sexual minorities among Russian athletes, US President Barack Obama said at a press conference on Friday.

        What is it? They will exhibit in women’s sports individuals with male primary sexual characteristics, imagining themselves women like transgender people and similar nature errors ?? I don’t see another way to get an advantage due to gays
        1. +4
          10 August 2013 09: 22
          Quote: lewerlin53rus
          transsexuals and the like mistakes of nature?

          Trans will be their chip in 2018, the further the worse laughing
          Quote: lewerlin53rus
          I don’t see another way to get an advantage due to gays

          Yeah, they will forcibly remake the athletes' men in women, but then there will be a deficit in men's competitions, what should I do ??? Come up with a third floor IT wassat
          Eugene hi
          1. +7
            10 August 2013 10: 01
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yeah, they will forcibly remake the athletes' men in women, but then there will be a deficit in men's competitions, what should I do ??? Come up with a third floor IT

            Alexander hi
            See what infa is. So the process from "black" to "white" and vice versa (from boys - girls and vice versa) is already in full swing!

            ------------ As a result, today, according to the Williams Institute (UCLA Law School, UCLA Law School), about 700 000 Americans are transformed into transgender people and sodomites, and this figure will continue to grow - in including thanks to such “camps”.
            The degeneration of ordinary Americans is carefully maintained at the state level - a special National Center for Transgender Equality has been created .--------------

            http://communitarian.ru/novosti/obrazovanie/genocid_po_polovomu_priznaku_kak_iz_

            malchikov_delayut_devochek_kak_degeneraty_ubivayut_ameriku_svobodoy_gendernogo_v

            ybora_02082013 /
            1. +7
              10 August 2013 16: 06
              Quote: esaul
              about 700 Americans turned into transgender and sodomito

              If we have to fight them, I’m scared to imagine what their army will be like request The army of Satan himself is not otherwise.
              Valera hi
    2. +6
      10 August 2013 08: 10
      we only lost the battle, and europines ... we decided that we won the war, but the next operation is ours ..... But Putin is quite familiar with the concept of operational art and the West is furious that they are being replayed, and that’s the flow of bile , and lies from the fact that they could not finish ............
    3. +2
      10 August 2013 10: 00
      [quote = Fedor] It will be interesting if the Gay Europeans do not go to the Olympics in Sochi because of the "oppression" of sodomy. How will they then explain this to their children, "they say they are oppressing us homosexuals", so what? --- and in such a pedr ... m situation, how will they have children now? laughing
    4. mihasik
      +1
      10 August 2013 14: 24
      What children? How are they going to give birth to them, through ... well? They are also specially bred to reduce the world's population).
      1. +1
        10 August 2013 21: 42
        Quote: mihasik
        What children? How are they going to give birth to them, through ... well? They are also specially bred to reduce the world's population).

        Apparently the doctrine of the "golden billion" in action. They started to cut back in their countries ...
        This infection does not particularly extend to Russia! That freaks scum!
    5. +3
      10 August 2013 16: 07
      “No one is more offended than I am by some of the anti-gay and lesbian laws adopted in Russia,” the president said. Did I understand this statement correctly? Are you so worried about your "friends"? wassat http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/international/2013/08/130809_obama_russia_presser.s
      html
      1. S_mirnov
        -1
        11 August 2013 10: 26
        I read your comments and understand that the foes of Russia are to blame for fagots, pirates and American adoptive parents laughing
  3. lesnik340
    +17
    10 August 2013 07: 41
    No need to go to Russia with your charter !!! This is the first.
    Secondly, our judicial practice is quite worthy of our businessmen.
    Thirdly, Moscow and the region. not yet Russia and bet only on them
    initially be a loser.
    Putin is a smart leader and understands that the Russian people need to be kept in hedgehogs.
    For a simple person it’s violet to bleat America and Europe, we can’t baptize children with them.
    1. +3
      10 August 2013 10: 56
      unfortunately they have already climbed. The bottom line is how to throw them out of there. That's why the West is furious
  4. patriot464
    +8
    10 August 2013 07: 49
    What is this professor generally paid for? He doesn’t know a damn thing about us.
    1. +4
      10 August 2013 10: 57
      in principle, they don’t know much. confuse the Czech Republic and Chechnya, the stinger is called an anti-tank missile, etc.
    2. +1
      10 August 2013 11: 34
      Quote: patriot464
      He doesn’t know a damn thing about us.

      But barks loudly. Ah, Moska .... The main thing is to get more moseks so that there is more noise.
  5. Uncle Kostya
    +3
    10 August 2013 07: 49
    The only proposal they have is to support Navalny and his ilk in order to overthrow Putin.
  6. Dovmont
    +17
    10 August 2013 07: 54
    If Putin will fight against worldwide pederasty-then I will be on his side !!! (Pederasty is a scientific term)
    1. +8
      10 August 2013 14: 38
      + dear!
      By the way, as if the Yankees were not indignant - in Russia, it was the LGBT people who were granted some exclusive rights. proof - see the photo below:
      1. 0
        11 August 2013 10: 29
        And it would also be nice to give homosexuals some privileges like switching to red, everywhere without a queue, you look and there will be more order: "Where did you get something? Oh, you are one of these ..." and a nod at the sign "homosexuals are served out of turn.
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  8. +6
    10 August 2013 08: 02
    Instead of taking care of your economic situation, by joint efforts to pull the world out of the economic crisis and solve pressing social problems, etc. The West is only concerned about gay rights. And no one touched or oppressed them. Well, they laughed and twisted a finger at the temple. But you have to create a problem by getting some special rights for them. By doing this they only increase the negative attitude towards them. The West is only thinking about how to punish Putin. For what? for not dancing to the tune and bending his line. And by doing this they only add to his popularity. And this phrase directly killed
    By taking action against the officials most involved in such violations, the United States and Europe will effectively punish Putin and push Russia in a democratic direction.

    On the one hand, it’s kind of ridiculous (about officials, we don’t like them anyway, and it’s just people and officials who don’t give a damn about these problems) But the second part of the phrase causes a burning desire to take up the gun
    1. +3
      10 August 2013 08: 16
      Quote: lewerlin53rus
      Instead of taking care of your economic situation

      they are concerned about the economic situation, war is their way of well-being, so they set fire to where they can reach a match ......
    2. +1
      10 August 2013 09: 03
      And no one really touches gays here! Introduce this ... Brrrr !!!
  9. +7
    10 August 2013 08: 03
    British actor Stephen Fry and numerous LGBT activists advocated a boycott of the Sochi Winter Olympics in 2014 in protest of Russia's recent actions against gays and lesbians. According to media reports, gay bars in the US began to dispose of their Stolichnaya vodka stocks.
    1. +1
      10 August 2013 11: 30
      Well, let them boycott. Among пFedikov good athletes like no and not expected.
  10. +1
    10 August 2013 08: 08
    Quote: novobranets
    Totally agree with you. This masterpiece is an example of the subtle introduction of its "crap" wedge into the consciousness of people. If it doesn't work out in a snap, maybe something will come out by rolling. They understood that Russia is not afraid of brute force, all their screams, boycotts and ultimatums are on the drum. So the disrespectful Mr. Treisman (the name is indicative, isn't it?) Is trying to quietly, without slogans, "push Russia in a democratic direction." stop Although an interesting spark flashed - "... to prohibit in order to deprive officials involved in the violation of laws and electoral procedures of the right to travel to Europe and to own property there." In my opinion, this thought is worth coughing up. what
  11. +7
    10 August 2013 08: 09
    It's time for our industry to start producing dildos from pressed (cast) TNT to combat sodomites. A way to detonate your taste.
  12. +9
    10 August 2013 08: 20
    Davie Volodya of all these pi ... roars seized in power in the West. Normal people of all countries for you.
  13. Lukich
    +9
    10 August 2013 08: 24
    ... the most interesting thing is that the author correctly did a brief analysis of the risks for Putin - the article is correct so I put a minus (I do not like it) ...

    ... and the fact that the Americans are able to work in this field we see on the example of the USSR, now they want to ruin Russia ...

    ... you have to be careful - "THE ENEMY DOESN'T SLEEP" ...
  14. +4
    10 August 2013 08: 26
    Medvedev definitely said about Syria for the Americans: "They behave like an elephant in a china shop, they will do something, and then they don't know what to do about it." And this expression is also suitable in the situation with Snowder.
    Americans have become so tolerant that they no longer think anything.! I honestly humanly even feel sorry for them! fool
  15. +11
    10 August 2013 08: 28
    I liked the idea of ​​depriving property and accounts in the western banks of our officials. It’s high time, otherwise we’ve got used to holding everything abroad. And if the Americans would have adopted such a law to punish Putin, then in fact they would do a great service to all of Russia. And then many are used to grabbing here and skipping there ... (Example: Pekhtin, Knyshov and co.)
  16. +4
    10 August 2013 08: 39
    Photo "talking", "this is pi ... ts. There is no turning back." Only one has on his face "sadness from the" dead "hope for peace, and the other" khan of my peace prize ".
  17. -13
    10 August 2013 08: 43
    The opinion of the enemy is always interesting to know. It's funny that they in the West still consider Putin the leader of Russia and the guardian of the Russians. Although, in fact, Putin has long been an enemy of the Russian people. But a friend of anyone, from Tajiks to Arabs.
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    2. Peaceful military
      +1
      10 August 2013 20: 30
      My dear man, if, as you say, "Putin has long been an enemy of the Russian people," then who is not an enemy of the Russian people? On (temporary)? Nemtsov & Co? Prokhorov? Khodorkovsky? Berezovsky? Ah, sorry, he was killed by a "bloody gebnya". WHO? I'm embarrassed to ask, maybe you?
      1. -1
        11 August 2013 17: 22
        Peaceful military

        Lord! You are discussing a specific person - Putin V.V.
        So discuss it!

        And here Navalny and others like him?
  18. prophetic
    +7
    10 August 2013 08: 44
    I hope Medvedev will never become president again. Clowns in power are too dangerous for Russia
    1. +5
      10 August 2013 09: 12
      Yes, he de facto never was. Putin had to abide by the letter of the constitution. No more. And if in doubt, remember how at the congress of United Russia DAM asked the GDP to take the post of prime minister. Very revealing!
      1. prophetic
        +3
        10 August 2013 09: 47
        during the iPhone, Libya was defeated, Gaddafi was killed. We must admit that Dima is not suitable for the leaders of our country, because excessive peace is deadly in our time, now we need a tough leader, not a mumble who rejoices every time he sees a tablet. It’s better to make him an admin Smesharik site, there is good, there is modernization in the form of many gadgets
  19. +7
    10 August 2013 09: 05
    Quote: novobranets
    They understood - Russia is not afraid of brute force, all their cries, boycotts and ultimatums to her on the drum.

    I haven’t read more nonsense since a month. The professor clearly not only does not know Russia, but lives somewhere in the beginning of the 90's. Putin is like a scarecrow for him. And he seems to do nothing, for which he can yell and cheat, but on the other what a terrible side.
    Well, dear compatriots, it turns out we love gays and other perverts, but Putin forbids us from this ... And we simply adore pedophiles. It’s nice to read, when even overseas, they know more about us than we do.
    For that, it’s understandable why Abama in politics is like an elephant in a china shop. With such political scientists, there’s no other way.
  20. +1
    10 August 2013 09: 11
    How they (the West) want to learn Russia all the time, but all this is a rough game. It seems that in the West there are no smart people who can play a delicate game, all of their steps are already calculated in advance by the Kremlin (let alone the Kremlin, the common people.)
  21. +1
    10 August 2013 09: 12
    Processor of the crack got smoked by a balcony
  22. yuri p
    +1
    10 August 2013 09: 17
    The author of the article is a client of a psychiatric clinic.
  23. +4
    10 August 2013 09: 19
    And how touching it is that the West stands for "improving the system of public administration" in Russia!
    I just want to bow to them in their hooves ... laughing
  24. +4
    10 August 2013 09: 38
    Want to get Putin down? find his money. Plant, if possible, foreign oligarchs such as Abramovich and a hedgehog with them and prove that they stole money thanks to the GDP policy, include all Russian billionaires, including Chubais, in Magnitsky’s list. If the American gang does this, then there may be a result. But the Americans are not interested in this and their stink will remain a bourgeois stink.
  25. +4
    10 August 2013 09: 49
    Let the West give those who keep money and property there with an eye to go to permanent residence, stealing in Russia as much as possible. It would be real help in the fight against corruption, but they do not need it - on the contrary, they are just waiting for such. As for the LGBT people, what problems - let them move to Europe and the USA, now no one is holding anyone. Well, pi ... ry and others are not needed in Russia.
  26. +11
    10 August 2013 09: 53
    As the West did not understand Russia, it will never understand. I personally use both hands to ensure that all Russian officials are on Magnitsky’s list, that they can be safely in Russia and not be able to open a single foreign bank account. The West puts on our fagots, well what can I say, good luck!
  27. +2
    10 August 2013 10: 13
    The arrogant attempts of the West to punish someone (especially Russia!) Arbitrarily arouses the desire to "drag them over the bumps with their muzzle." For each such attempt, they must answer with unfavorable consequences for themselves. On hypocritical attacks on different rights, we need to expose a response "blizzard" about their rights. The West and amers have a lot to find fault with. And "mock" them with the same approach - include the same fool as theirs. - "Treatment" will be successful!
  28. poccinin
    +1
    10 August 2013 10: 13
    such a feeling about the article. a hundred of it was written by an alien. Dostoevsky wrote correctly. "RUSSIA CANNOT BE UNDERSTANDED WITH THE MIND AND CANNOT MEASURED WITH ARSHIN," but there’s not even a mind here. There are probably no worthy smart analysts in the West. RUSSIA IS A GREAT COUNTRY WITH A RICH (great) history that must be respected. if not RUSSIA. That would not be mattressnikov. In their civil war. navy RUSSIA. was off the coast of America. and England was afraid of a conflict with RUSSIA.
  29. Alexander borey
    +10
    10 August 2013 10: 20
    Punish Putin laughing fool This is a Zionist article, vomit from the media. I read a few lines of this diarrhea and that's enough. The author Daniel Traisman is a Russophobe and a dreamer. They say about such people - they get richer with a thought.
    His "works" are articles - "Russia is a normal country like Mexico", "Nobody knows how to modernize Russia without risking the elite, which is associated with the regime" and other abomination. In short, this ghoul Treisman is an ardent hater of Russia, Orthodoxy and everything that is dear and sacred to the Russian people.


    Punishing Putin is a pink dream for the Anglo-Saxons, but they messed up the times, at least 10 years. Soon we will punish you.
    How does this even appear on the VO site? BOLD MINUS. negative
  30. 6216390
    +1
    10 August 2013 10: 28
    The West is able to strengthen the split between the corrupt elements of the administrative elite, gradually convincing ordinary Russians that it stands on their side in the struggle to improve the system of public administration.

    Yes, the cunning of the West has no limits, but somehow we must fight this.
  31. +9
    10 August 2013 10: 40
    I do not care for Putin, this article or against. I know for sure that this article is against me, against our Russian traditions.
  32. 0
    10 August 2013 10: 47
    We are still about five pauses, and then we'll see who will teach whom and what. angry
  33. +2
    10 August 2013 10: 51
    The author of the article, in American opinion, is an expert on this issue, but on ours he does not swim at all in this topic. American action plan for NPOs. But if they have all such experts (Brzezinski left), then the result is predictable.
  34. +2
    10 August 2013 10: 59
    Article-dirty cheat sheet for the enemies of Russia.
  35. +8
    10 August 2013 11: 21
    Punish Putin ?! President of the Russian Federation ?! We have already seen quite a few such attempts. It’s enough to recall the G-8 recently. Everyone who is trying to do this hears behind them a friendly laughter above themselves. Personally, I am not an advocate or supporter of Putin, but I am impressed by how he makes idiots out of his own ill-wishers.
  36. +2
    10 August 2013 11: 23
    What pressure is correct

    I acknowledge any form of pressure expressed in suicidal form. The more such Western scribblers finish their speeches with suicide, the sooner everything will become clear.
  37. 12345
    +3
    10 August 2013 11: 23
    How not to punish Putin ...


    The key phrase here is "punish Putin."

    "With the naked eye" you can see HOW THEIR "hands itch"!

    But, alas, "the arms are short." And this is good!
  38. +3
    10 August 2013 11: 26
    What difference does it make there, across the ocean, who our president is, what our affairs are, how we live. It would be better if the deutroit were restored and the Gulf of Mexico was cleaned, but somehow we ourselves.
  39. +4
    10 August 2013 11: 50

    In such a situation, reading condemning notations to Putin for not betraying the person who exposed perhaps illegal actions of American espionage departments will only increase the president’s popularity among Russians. And Western demands for greater transparency seem pure water hypocrisy. If Putin lost, he would have looked like a spineless leader.
    Remove the highlighted words and the quote becomes true.
    deprive property of honest businessmen
    How, being an honest businessman, can you make such fabulous fortunes in a short period of time?
  40. 128mgb
    +1
    10 August 2013 11: 52
    Quote: Alexander Romanov

    Yeah, they will forcibly remake the athletes' men in women, but then there will be a deficit in men's competitions, what should I do ??? Come up with a third floor IT wassat
    Eugene hi

    I'll go further: organize their own Gay Olympics? Perhaps, but then the question arises - what will the sports be called? And I can imagine a "gay fight" - athletes gently touching each other are trying to knock the opponent on his shoulder blades. Or make you turn your back.
    1. +2
      10 August 2013 16: 12
      Quote: 128mgb
      And I imagine a "gay fight" - gently touching each other

      Whoever takes away, he won laughing
  41. +2
    10 August 2013 11: 56
    I read the article. I was surprised.

    I believed that Americans are still less "tolerant" than Europeans.

    It turned out that journalists are worried not so much about corruption and theft in Russia as (I quote): "the plight of homosexuals in Russia," "Putin incites homophobia," "Putin must be punished for homophobia," etc.

    Just crying Yaroslavna over the poor homosexual!

    Homosexuals do not like))) Is that a stick)))

    It is not clear why homosexuals showed themselves in such a way that their Europeans and Americans protect them so much. Tolerast, damn it ...

    PS As soon as possible, these homosexuals would die, or something ... We urgently need a "homosexual flu"!
    1. 0
      10 August 2013 13: 16
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      "Homosexual flu" is urgently needed

      To create such a disease, you need real scientists. Those scientists whom we have the opportunity to contemplate are able to cut loot, eat and remove worms, but are unable to create anything serious. They still have not learned how to seriously get rid of cancer, they can not do anything for the serious prevention of strokes. I am silent about my heart, even so it is a machine that has been working since the birth of man.
      Well, how does a homo scientist come across? He will nullify all the work! am
    2. +1
      10 August 2013 21: 51
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      PS As soon as possible, these homosexuals would die, or something ... We urgently need a "homosexual flu"!

      So it seems like AIDS, if there is, as a rule, a "professional-anal" disease of homosexuals, there is also some kind of sarcoma (cancer) in their ass! But the number of this cattle is not greatly reduced ... We need the flu! Or some kind of dysentery, specifically transmitted ... lol
      1. 0
        17 August 2013 21: 51
        Quote: AlNikolaich
        So it seems like AIDS, if there is, as a rule, a "professional-anal" disease of homosexuals, there is also some kind of sarcoma (cancer) in their ass!

        Ugum-s. At the dawn of AIDS, it was called cancer gay, like "fagot cancer". True, they, bitches, do not die from him at all.
  42. vitas
    +4
    10 August 2013 11: 58
    I like very much when the ass is burning very strongly in the West, Putin did well. The blue ones still have fun, maybe they can even burn balalaikas and punish the bears, how they can do it laughing. They don’t go to someone else’s monastery with their charter, they very much confuse their rotten EuroPU with Russia, which still has values ​​and a head on its shoulders.
  43. Ferocious Bambra
    +4
    10 August 2013 12: 10
    With this approach, they will repeat the story of Napoleon and Hitler .....
    ....... Napoleon was also surprised by the fact that the Russian peasants did not support him
  44. +3
    10 August 2013 12: 17
    So much noise from perverts!
    Scientists have proven that about 12% of the population are non-traditional.
    This number does not change over time and does not depend on nationality.
    SO WHY SHOULD I LIVE BY THE LAWS OF MINORITIES?
    1. 0
      10 August 2013 23: 06
      APASUS
      There are far fewer true incurable perverts.
      10-12 percent - latent, with different deviations, varying degrees. That is, the vast majority of them, with a normal upbringing, will never become fagots. The key word is "under normal upbringing" ...
  45. +6
    10 August 2013 12: 21
    "But the West ...................... is gradually convincing ordinary Russians that it is on their side in the struggle to improve the system of government."

    Yes, the West cannot eat or sleep, being on the side of ordinary Russians. Remember how in the 90s, thanks to the "paternal" care of the West, several tens of millions of Russians disappeared without a trace in the CIS.
  46. +7
    10 August 2013 12: 56
    I won’t even try to understand how THESE geyropeytsy are building relationships with pi.do.rami, as well as these ... Dorov and their Tolerasts in western Russia, but I know for sure that almost east of the Urals and in the Urals all 100% of Russian citizens towards these persons (muzzles) of a non-traditional orientation are unambiguous - .. sing at the stake and not a drop of sperm ... Let yourself bite themselves in the bouts.
    And in case of suspicion of molestation previously not involved - castration and count.

    Putin is doing everything right!

    And most likely even a lot of what I would do does not finish it ...
  47. mihasik
    +2
    10 August 2013 13: 02
    There is only one understanding of this opus: we are on the opposite political, ideological, etc. the poles. It's like + and -. On contact, a short circuit occurs and, as a result, a complete blackout or fire. And we are with them NEVER we will not find a mutually agreeing point of contact. All these negotiations, agreements and meetings boil down to one thing: to postpone or even stop the influence of the "PARTNER's" power pole and increase yours. Each of the parties is trying to increase its force field in different ways and one of: (due to such "antibodies" as Gorbachev, Yeltsin, etc. in our case), and when the + or - wins, then the WAR will end, which never ended, but the victory of one of the "magnitudes" will lead to a lack of movement, stagnation and collapse of the whole world. So the STRUGGLE CONTINUES GENTLEMARS, I CONGRATULATE ALL!
  48. 1712
    +2
    10 August 2013 13: 20
    How do Westerners want at least something to find against Putin. Well, they’re climbing out of the skin, an entire professor of political science at the University of California at Los Angeles builds his scientific work on this. Nothing more to do, the problems in this world are over.
  49. +2
    10 August 2013 13: 48
    Only one thing was said from the article: the author of the article considers the Russians stupid. And Putin for him is a competitor in the struggle for control over the Russians. And the fact that Putin’s intellect was recognized is a fact.

    For some reason, I personally do not consider the Americans stupid, they just have stupid authorities and the elections are fictitious ...
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  51. HAM
    +2
    10 August 2013 13: 55
    Mr. Onishchenko, prepare more dust, all sorts of infections creep in where they don’t ask for them.
  52. +2
    10 August 2013 13: 57
    "You can't understand Russia with your mind"! And if they don’t have it (mind), then they certainly won’t understand it.
  53. Vlad_Mir
    +2
    10 August 2013 14: 06
    Until the West stops meddling in its own affairs, there will be peace on Earth!
  54. +1
    10 August 2013 14: 11
    “How not to punish Putin” - the expression itself is not correct, but in general, what to take from motherfuckers...
  55. +3
    10 August 2013 14: 51
    .They just can’t admit a simple idea in general: the West no longer has effective levers of pressure on Putin. They missed the moment. But everything was on the surface. When they passed a law banning government officials from having foreign accounts and property. Even the idiots rejoiced. But IMF officials and Soros businessmen were mumbling about this back in the late 90s. fool
  56. Fedych
    +4
    10 August 2013 14: 56
    It is good that the majority understands as much as possible the position of V.V. Putin on the issue of Russia’s position regarding minorities. NOT clear - otherwise. All statements of support on this issue are mostly worldly, secular, atheistic and emotional and nothing more. I did not see or read the spiritual, consciously rational Orthodox position. And this is bad! - if in our confrontation with the West we limit ourselves to purely earthly, non-acceptance that is common today! - we will not stand for long and on a solid foundation with support from Above . What is this? - this is the ability to see this question, its causes, origins and transcendence through the prism of God’s truth. In Orthodoxy, this means in the entire context, the meaning of our teaching, namely, any passion that dominates a person is disapproved, including the lawful one for the reason and law of the flesh, the body and its feelings. Let’s say in an Orthodox marriage, during periods of fasting, it is desirable to abstain from marital cohabitation, voluntary and mutually acceptable, and not because it is sin, evil, a mistake in its purest form, but because the New Kingdom is from God, and higher, and newer, and more refined any other unity on earth, including the legal cohabitation of spouses, fully understood and approved by the Lord in its place and time. Without this, we are just pious pagans and nothing more. Both the hedonists and us. And they only live on earth and for the earth and according to the laws of animal life, and we - and only, And what are we, the Russian-Russian people, as God’s new creation? - in that, having solidified earthly love into flesh, we use our organs accordingly? Think......
    1. -7
      10 August 2013 15: 14
      Fedich, my friend, you have a gay bar there in Tallinn, you should go there with your sermons. By the way, they have already stopped drinking vodka.
      1. Fedych
        +5
        10 August 2013 15: 29
        Thanks for the advice! but let me clarify, not just vodka, but Russian only. And this is not enough for optimism. As a friendly and polite answer and advice, I respect it. But I don’t accept it! - I didn’t choose the place of residence, the time, its events, and it’s not for anyone to decide for me. Where there is Russian in spirit and according to the Spirit!? - there is peace in Russian in spirit. This might be. and Russia and the Baltic States and the Caucasus .. Other, private opinions (like yours) - some may like them, others may not, and that’s all. I’m only from Russia, and I can compare things here and there. And I will say, your position is yours, but not that of Deputy Fedorov and the patriots of Russia from Above.. Therefore, believe, know, wish as you see fit. But there are others with different knowledge and opinions. And I am one of them. With uv!
        1. -3
          10 August 2013 16: 11
          Fedich, with all due respect, I ask, come on, without preaching. Faith is a purely personal matter, and on the site there are people of different views. Just imagine what will happen if Jews, Muslims, sun worshipers, and old religions join our conversation
          1. -2
            10 August 2013 16: 31
            rows, etc.

            ABOUT! Here you are! While I was writing to you, some believer secretly spat on your back.
            (torn the comment when corrected)
            1. +3
              10 August 2013 16: 50
              Quote: chehywed
              some believer secretly spat on his back.

              Only believers from all over the world spit on the backs of the Orthodox. I’ll spill the beans on them so they won’t be called an anti-Semite. laughing
              1. 0
                10 August 2013 17: 04
                Quote: Hedgehog
                I'll talk about them so that anti-Semite were not named. laughing

                It’s great that you kept silent... Surely no one guessed. But, unfortunately, I “got it” from the Orthodox.
                1. +2
                  10 August 2013 17: 15
                  Quote: chehywed
                  But, unfortunately, I “got it” from the Orthodox

                  DO NOT take this to heart. There is a category of people who take all this seriously. Although there is only fun around.
                  1. 0
                    10 August 2013 19: 16
                    Quote: Hedgehog
                    Don't take it to heart


                    God forbid! But no one has explained yet...
          2. +3
            10 August 2013 22: 00
            Quote: chehywed
            Just imagine what will happen if Jews, Muslims, sun worshipers, and old people join our conversation.

            Sorry to interrupt, but as I know, homosexuality is condemned in any faith! (except for some forms of paganism).
            1. 0
              10 August 2013 22: 32
              Quote: AlNikolaich
              but as I know, in any faith homosexuality is condemned! (except perhaps some forms of paganism).


              So it is not encouraged among atheists either. Fedich believes that...
              It is good that the majority understands as much as possible the position of V.V. Putin on the issue of Russia’s position regarding minorities. NOT clear - otherwise. All statements of support on this issue are mostly worldly, secular, atheistic and emotional and nothing more. I didn’t see or read the spiritual, consciously rational Orthodox position. And that’s bad!

              So, is it bad that people condemn homosexuality without the name of God on their lips? Nowadays you can’t be a decent person without going to church? But I believe that there should be no religious propaganda on the site, because...
              Quote: chehywed
              .Faith is a purely personal matter, and on the site there are people of different views
              1. Fedych
                0
                11 August 2013 00: 18
                Is it possible to be an atheist? - then, how and why. What are they? - smarter, more reasoned than others. After all, they fought for Orthodox Russia despite all the inequalities and weaknesses for hundreds and hundreds of years. Comrade Stalin, having been hit in the neck, remembered his faith and opened churches, it might be. otteleva and legs of victory. Where is Comrade Khrushchev and the last pop?- the most powerful Power and its Army simply simply pro...s..r..li- debilitating the people with the impotence of personal irresponsibility and personal senselessness of understanding the essence and purpose of the global game and the role of the Personality in it in the face of Eternity. And now the priests and faith are to blame? - Yes, come to your senses! - if you can.
                1. 0
                  11 August 2013 00: 38
                  Quote: Fedych
                  Is it possible to be an atheist? - then, how and why. What are they? - smarter, more reasoned than others.


                  Fedich, where did you see in my or anyone else’s comments the statements that there is no God?
                2. +2
                  11 August 2013 05: 35
                  Quote: Fedych
                  And now the priests and faith are to blame? - Yes, come to your senses! - if you can.

                  Fedich, with all due respect, but the topic is not about Orthodoxy now and faith. Leave posts for the right time.
          3. Fedych
            0
            10 August 2013 23: 32
            Brother! - it will be so wonderful! - when directly and without intermediaries, you, like you, I, like me, and this or that Muslim, or Jew, with others, bypassing intermediaries from yourself, and for someone one of us will say how and why he is this or that, how and why he understands me, you, the other. This is people's diplomacy from below, from soul to soul, and from heart to heart. I know, it will be difficult! - As a long-time member of the forum of the Orthodox website A. Kuraeva, he has repeatedly participated in lively polemics with Muslims, and with Jews, and with Catholics, and with Protestants. I’m not talking about Rodnovers, Baptists and Pentecostals with SI.. You know? - whoever loves wants to know what, how and why.. In the USA there are millions of Orthodox Christians, others are kind, unselfish, sympathetic and sacrificial, just like us. So why do we equate everyone with the same brush, like some of them do - us? Let’s get personal and personal with the whole sum of our personal data - experience, knowledge, doubt, questioning and argumentation. I know it’s difficult, but who said that life is only peace and conflict-free? - so we learn to mutually resolve all this before we are ordered to cut each other’s throats. Watch out! - not everything is so simple in this complex world!
            1. 0
              11 August 2013 01: 10
              Quote: Fedych
              Brother! - it will be so wonderful! - when directly and without intermediaries, you, like you, I, like me, and this or that Muslim, or Jew, with others, bypassing intermediaries from yourself, and for someone one of us will say how and why he is this or that, how and why he understands me, you, others

              Well, thank God that at least you Fedych you believe in it.
              And I’ll outline the harsh reality for you. Look. It’s worth it Fedych and preaches. He came up chehywed, they say Fedych, we are not in church and pointed out the object for admonition. Well, in general we started talking. We came up Ezhaak и AlNikolaich, exchanged a few phrases and parted ways. And during this time that we were communicating, at least 9 more people passed by (and how many more will pass!!!) each of whom considered it their duty to kick me without entering into any controversy! Although I didn’t do anything bad to them and I don’t know them (I don’t already know some of them). And mind you, they are sure that they did the right thing! And they still consider themselves believers!

              All that remains is to transfer the situation from the Internet to the street. Yes, I would have already been torn to pieces Union Jack and despite the fact that I am also Orthodox and believe in God. One thing is calming. You would probably be able to sing what was left of me. laughing
              1. Fedych
                +1
                11 August 2013 04: 32
                Among our possible opponents there will be very different people from everywhere - I am familiar with this. Moreover, for one in a polemic with his arguments - pros and cons, dozens of them are still looking for something, comparing, doubting, etc., this is our possible positive. And there will already be the so-called. who have found and are stubborn in their unshakable arguments, and even their hidden missionaries. It’s the hardest thing with them! - they will explicitly and implicitly, knowing our teaching well, probe us, provoke us, and here it is important to answer them well, competently, with reason, avoiding possible trolls - obvious and hidden provocations. And this means not getting angry, and speaking as much as you can about the Truth, which you understand in one way or another. The rest is not important! - because we speak like people. And the Almighty Creator of everything, at a time pleasing to Him, when He deems it necessary, will do the rest. smile
  57. +3
    10 August 2013 15: 03
    Author Daniel Treisman is a professor of political science at UCLA and author of The Return: Russia's Journey from Gorbachev to Medvedev


    Why are they keeping this useless man? It seemed that he was pushed aside in the morning and asked the sacred question “what should I do?”, well, out of fear, he answered. The professor doesn't understand anything about Russia and Russians. In a purely American way, he reduced everything to money and homosexuals.

    But the GDP’s bedroom should be scanned. Yesterday they wrote that he had insomnia. Today they write that he has nightmares about a popular uprising. How do they know...? No, it’s not for nothing that Russia sheltered Snowden.
  58. +2
    10 August 2013 15: 04
    The author of the article is far from a stupid person, it is immediately obvious not from today’s American youth, but judging by the text of the article, one feels that Uncle Volodya has outplayed the United States at this stage, they do not have “real” levers of pressure on GDP, which in fact irritates them greatly, the visit of the Saudi prince with an unsuccessful attempt at bribery, the refusal of the MSC to extradite Eddie, a firm position on Syria, American society simply cannot understand that there is still a country not controlled by Washington’s decisions. Personally, I hope for the creation of a European magnetic list, expansion of the American one, let our elite understand that they have nowhere to run and all the loot will be taken away by other world pirates, then perhaps they will begin to think about their own country since there is nowhere to run.
    1. gura
      0
      11 August 2013 11: 08
      From Minsk. There cannot be only black or white paint in the world. In addition to the ass...for Markov, there are your other political scientists. And they reason quite sensibly. Russian political scientist Andrei Piontkovsky believes that Barack Obama’s refusal to meet with Putin is a forced decision:

      “This decision was made under pressure from both public opinion and the US Congress. Obama is very proud that he considers himself the architect of the “reset”: there was a bad President Bush, who spoiled relations with all countries, including Russia, a good Obama came, a Nobel Prize laureate, full of good intentions, who will correct the mistakes of the previous leadership and reset relations with Russia. It was a complete illusion, because it was not about Bush, but about the attitudes of the Russian leadership. The Kremlin needs America as an enemy. There is no other ideology for rallying the masses around a national leader than creating the image of an enemy, especially one as powerful as the United States. Everything that happens in the world is interpreted by the Kremlin as US intrigues directed against Russia. The Kremlin leaders have repeated this so many times that they themselves believe it. But they are dependent on the West: all the activities of the Russian regime are the robbery of their own country and the creation of “common funds” not in China, not in Venezuela, but in the USA and other Western countries. And the more they feel dependent on the West, the more they hate the West. This is a very complex combination of an inferiority complex and a grandeur complex.

      - Does it mean that Obama’s refusal to meet with Putin is another brick in creating the image of the enemy, as you said?

      - Of course yes. I think Putin is very happy with Obama’s decision and even proud. In his eyes and in the eyes of the people, this will be yet another proof of how Russia, led by Putin, is courageously and heroically resisting American imperialism. But at the same time, the attitude of the Kremlin and the Russian political elite towards the West is quite contradictory. This is hatred, the desire to aggravate relations, and at the same time – fear. As we now know, if we take this unfortunate Snowden, the American intelligence services, like the intelligence services of other countries in the world, listen to everything they can, and, naturally, they know the accounts of the top Russian leadership. And if they really want to, they can apply their own legislation to combat illegally acquired capital and mobilize the international organization FATF (Financial Action Task Force). This, of course, worries the Russian elite.

      - However, presidential aide Yuri Ushakov said the Kremlin was disappointed with Obama’s decision ...

      - Recently, the Kremlin has only been doing it by mocking the Americans in various forms. Look at the behavior of China and Russia in the Snowden situation. China took the necessary information from him and got rid of him instantly, putting him on a plane to Moscow, without engaging in any political shows. We have been dancing around Snowden for two months, arranging press conferences, hypocritically gasping about how bad the American special services are, how they listen to everyone. The same behavior was with the Tsarnaevs. After all, it is known that Tsarnaev spent the entire 2012 in Russia, in the Caucasus. And from the first to the last minute he was under the close supervision of the Russian special services. But I went back safely to the USA. And when the American senators came to clarify the circumstances of the Tsarnaevs case, they were brazenly lied to their faces that there was no Tsarnaev, although there were official statements from the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Dagestan. The behavior of the Kremlin, in modern terms, "trolling" the United States and Obama personally. And even such a "rag" as Obama is forced to reckon with American public opinion and take such a demonstrative step as refusing to travel to Moscow.
  59. 0
    10 August 2013 15: 48
    Democracy is the dictatorship of the majority. It is not clear why the LGBT minority dictates in countries of victorious democracy.
    1. +3
      10 August 2013 15: 53
      What is not clear here??? Because they are the majority there!
  60. +1
    10 August 2013 15: 59
    >>
    How many stupid people are there in the West? They will never understand that ordinary Russians have long understood whose side the West is on, when it applauded Hunchbacked Judas, awarding him the Nobel Prize for the collapse of the USSR, when it was approvingly silent in front of the drunk Bz...tsin, while the bandit-thieves division was going on property and wealth in Russia with the direct participation of State Department advisers with a complete disregard for any right and comprehensive corruption was an integral element of this process of theft called privatization, which cost Russia MILLIONS of human lives!!! So with such a pedigree, the West DOES NOT need to pose as defenders of the interests of the common people of Russia, which, as it itself determined, for example in the person of Mrs. Thatcher, should generally number no more than 45 million people! The extra ones, more than 100 million, are not needed by the West and must DISAPPEAR!
  61. ork
    ork
    +1
    10 August 2013 16: 05
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    The Russian team at the Sochi Olympics may be weaker, since there are no representatives of sexual minorities among Russian athletes, US President Barack Obama said

    Then let him propose holding “glamorous Olympics”, in order to “level up the strength”, the fagots already have a flag!!
    Something has changed dramatically in US foreign policy. Lately there has been an avalanche of topics in the media about all sorts of INSANE things - LGBT, pussies, femmes, etc. Just "ABOUT......th" RoOSSIYU already lacks imagination. terrible “European values” are being introduced into the consciousness. The world has turned upside down, the very foundation of society is being destroyed. this is where we are pulled and pushed: According to legend, the inhabitants of SODOM AND GOMORRAH “were wicked and very sinful before the Lord,” they were subject to “fornication and going after other flesh,” and God sends his angels to Sodom, but they were almost attacked the crowd wanting to “know them.” It came to this, they almost killed the angels. Only after this did GOD decide: “...And the Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah from the Lord from heaven and overthrew these cities, their surroundings and all the inhabitants.” I don’t really want to fall under this distribution because of the “anus”.
    It is necessary to force people to look openly at the world and stop the mysterious processes of degeneration, manifested in various types of mental illness and sexual perversions, which in the Bible are called the devil and the prince of this world, whose name is Legion.
  62. +2
    10 August 2013 16: 14
    Quote: Gardamir
    I do not care for Putin, this article or against. I know for sure that this article is against me, against our Russian traditions.

    Absolutely agree. At the same time, this is why we elect a president so that he can stand up for them. One of these traditions is the independence of Russia.
  63. +1
    10 August 2013 16: 16
    That liberals don’t like you to come out, we’ll get to all of you
  64. +1
    10 August 2013 16: 27
    In life it’s like in the rain: there comes a moment when it just doesn’t matter anymore...

    For Putin, and for all of us, such a moment has already arrived. We can no longer live, flinching at every sneeze of Uncle Sam. It’s time for him to tell us “be healthy.”
  65. +2
    10 August 2013 16: 35
    Regarding “...unfair and politically motivated use of the judicial system”: “And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not feel the beam in your own eye?” (Matthew's Holy Gospel, chapter 7, verse 3)
  66. +2
    10 August 2013 17: 04
    The first feeling from the article is that you cannot turn your back on the countries of victorious democracy. And in general it is better to be red and straight than blue in a bow.
  67. +1
    10 August 2013 19: 23
    One thing is clear, who does not speak Russian, and this someone is looking for ways to further destroy Russian civilization. This is evidenced by the reflections and advice of this professor from California. Throughout history, from Ivan the Terrible to the present day, peoples to the east of Europe have been destroyed, we must accept the challenge and swallow up Western civilization with soft power. Otherwise, we will even lose our language, not to mention our customs and way of life! Personally, I drew the following conclusions from this article.
  68. waisson
    +1
    10 August 2013 19: 32
    without entering into debate, the article is shameful
  69. +2
    10 August 2013 19: 34
    To be honest, the article was funny... smile
    This scribbler thinks that people do nothing but think about poor fagots and how the GDP spreads rot on them... smile
    Moreover, they are naive and do not even understand that rejection of the West arises primarily from their imposition of their own supposed “values.”
  70. Peaceful military
    +3
    10 August 2013 20: 38
    Yes, what a cavernous hatred towards us and absolute misinformation (“Considering that Putin is currently fighting for political survival”). It’s clear, because the anti-Russian information war, through the media, began already in the XNUMXth century
    ( http://www.russiapost.su/archives/2196 ) did not fade for a moment.
  71. +1
    10 August 2013 20: 50
    The West has completely gone crazy. There is no limit to his impudence. Interventions, bombings, forgeries and falsifications - this is not a complete list of measures used in the world politics of Western countries against the world community. And all this abomination is carried out under the guise of “human rights”. Hypocrisy, these are the characteristic features of Western diplomacy!
  72. +1
    10 August 2013 21: 23
    And I liked it
    "...and those whose election was accompanied by credible reports of fraud. They will then be able exclude such dishonestly elected officials from delegations invited to Western-sponsored events"
    this is beyond all measure
    And the text began decently - absolutely wretched ideas regarding the punishment of GDP were criticized, and then... an even more idiotic one was proposed, which has been exploited for a long time. Plagiarism, however
  73. 0
    11 August 2013 02: 06
    Let the West legalize pedophilia, incest, and drug addiction. Let them destroy themselves, I don’t feel sorry for them.
  74. 0
    11 August 2013 07: 45
    The West is in a position to widen the divide

    Forewarned is forearmed.
  75. 0
    11 August 2013 10: 16
    some crappy advisers there :) on the contrary, we should not pay attention to bribery, corrupt judges, etc.

    and so if the United States starts putting pressure on this, we will immediately have the necessary laws, and they will get down to business, carry out purges, and we will have grace again :)))
  76. gura
    +1
    11 August 2013 11: 15
    From Minsk. There cannot be only black or white paint in the world. In addition to the ass...for Markov, there are your other political scientists. And they reason quite sensibly. Russian political scientist Andrei Piontkovsky believes that Barack Obama’s refusal to meet with Putin is a forced decision:

    “This decision was made under pressure from both public opinion and the US Congress. Obama is very proud that he considers himself the architect of the “reset”: there was a bad President Bush, who spoiled relations with all countries, including Russia, a good Obama came, a Nobel Prize laureate, full of good intentions, who will correct the mistakes of the previous leadership and reset relations with Russia. It was a complete illusion, because it was not about Bush, but about the attitudes of the Russian leadership. The Kremlin needs America as an enemy. There is no other ideology for rallying the masses around a national leader than creating the image of an enemy, especially one as powerful as the United States. Everything that happens in the world is interpreted by the Kremlin as US intrigues directed against Russia. The Kremlin leaders have repeated this so many times that they themselves believe it. But they are dependent on the West: all the activities of the Russian regime are the robbery of their own country and the creation of “common funds” not in China, not in Venezuela, but in the USA and other Western countries. And the more they feel dependent on the West, the more they hate the West. This is a very complex combination of an inferiority complex and a grandeur complex.

    - Does it mean that Obama’s refusal to meet with Putin is another brick in creating the image of the enemy, as you said?

    - Of course yes. I think Putin is very happy with Obama’s decision and even proud. In his eyes and in the eyes of the people, this will be yet another proof of how Russia, led by Putin, is courageously and heroically resisting American imperialism. But at the same time, the attitude of the Kremlin and the Russian political elite towards the West is quite contradictory. This is hatred, the desire to aggravate relations, and at the same time – fear. As we now know, if we take this unfortunate Snowden, the American intelligence services, like the intelligence services of other countries in the world, listen to everything they can, and, naturally, they know the accounts of the top Russian leadership. And if they really want to, they can apply their own legislation to combat illegally acquired capital and mobilize the international organization FATF (Financial Action Task Force). This, of course, worries the Russian elite.

    - However, presidential aide Yuri Ushakov said the Kremlin was disappointed with Obama’s decision ...

    - Recently, the Kremlin has only been doing it by mocking the Americans in various forms. Look at the behavior of China and Russia in the Snowden situation. China took the necessary information from him and got rid of him instantly, putting him on a plane to Moscow, without engaging in any political shows. We have been dancing around Snowden for two months, arranging press conferences, hypocritically gasping about how bad the American special services are, how they listen to everyone. The same behavior was with the Tsarnaevs. After all, it is known that Tsarnaev spent the entire 2012 in Russia, in the Caucasus. And from the first to the last minute he was under the close supervision of the Russian special services. But I went back safely to the USA. And when the American senators came to clarify the circumstances of the Tsarnaevs case, they were brazenly lied to their faces that there was no Tsarnaev, although there were official statements from the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Dagestan. The behavior of the Kremlin, in modern terms, "trolling" the United States and Obama personally. And even such a "rag" as Obama is forced to reckon with American public opinion and take such a demonstrative step as refusing to travel to Moscow.
  77. user
    -2
    11 August 2013 17: 10
    Putin walked alone around St. Petersburg
    1. 0
      11 August 2013 18: 11
      Quote: user
      Putin walked alone around St. Petersburg


      So what if you walked alone?! Now explain to me how V.V. Putin’s walking alone (the video you posted) has to do with the topic of the thread How not to punish Putin ("Foreign Affairs", USA) (http://topwar.ru/31704-kak-ne-nado-nakazyvat-putina-ili-isterika-zapada.html#co
      mmment-id-1397250), that would be fine, but you posted the same video material in the topic During the exercises "Combat Commonwealth" will be fired from "Favorite" for the first time (http://topwar.ru/31750-na-ucheniyah-boevoe-sodruzhestvo-budut-vpervye-strelyat-


      iz-favorita.html#comment-id-1397259

      Do you write a comment for the sake of a comment or for the sake of a rating, or maybe both?! winked

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    11 August 2013 17: 56
    gradually convincing ordinary Russians that he was on their side in the fight to improve public administration.
    What well-wishers!!! Their mother...