Goodbye, American Dream!

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Goodbye, American Dream!The socio-economic situation in the United States began to deteriorate due to massive defaults at the grassroots, municipal level, which is carefully hidden from federal and international statistics.

Over the past two years, a strange migration trend has emerged: from 21 of my classmate, classmate, and acquaintance, who have long been safely settled for permanent residence in the US, more than half, 12 people, have unexpectedly returned to Russia. To the question "why," people say just awful storiesmore like a summary News from the poorest countries of Africa. “America is not the same at all!” Said Yura Istoyev, a programmer with whom I once hung out at the dormitory of a St. Petersburg university, and then in 2000 we heartily said goodbye to Pulkovo, seeing him off to the states. I looked at the US-RF migration statistics in recent years - indeed, the trend, as they say, is obvious: in 2012, 2 Russians returned to their homeland, which is almost three times more than in 102. Monitoring of macroeconomic indicators of the country of freedom is not He gave an answer to the question about the causes of this phenomenon: there is no recession, unemployment is stably high, but not critical, the industrial production index treads at zero. However, if you dig deeper, look at the problem from a regional perspective, it becomes clear where the dog is buried - as of August 2011, 1, 2013 cities had already declared bankrupt and stopped servicing their social obligations, 12 cities and 346 municipal districts were in pre-default state country. These stories are carefully hidden. And the world learned about Detroit only because there the socio-economic situation completely got out of control and could not be hidden.

San Francisco and stool

Nikolai Boev, an engineer returning from San Francisco, over a glass of delicious American Jimmy in a bar told me about the virtues of life in this once-thriving city: “There is a district called Hunters Point - an absolute nightmare. More than half of its population lives in poverty, and more than half of children live without fathers. I sometimes had to go there on business. My chief and I made our way through mud and concrete to the northeast of the building. Somehow we stopped to look around an unpopulated house, whose windows and doors were boarded up. The stream of shit, urine, tampons and toilet paper flowed from a dark hole in the sidewalk, flowed down a hill and near the street into a kind of crappy lagoon. Weeds grew in it twenty centimeters high. Fresh shit, understand? This is not a joke and not funny. I look at the WHO website for information on the "red dots" on the world map - San Francisco is marked with a thick line with a note: "high rates of viral infections among the population." The explanations of specialists are very clear: fecal masses are the shelter of dangerous bacteria, especially E. coli, a pathogenic microbe that causes illness or even death of people, especially infants. In the so-called developing world, according to the WHO, water polluted with feces is the main killer, on whose account 1,8 has millions of lives every year.

Child poverty, Detroit and darkness

Overall, however, San Francisco is in a better position than the rest of California. To the south along the coast, Los Angeles suffered the fate of a city with high unemployment and the ensuing rise in crime. In just the past three days, 54 arson and 8 rapes have been committed here (city police data).

The number of children living in extreme poverty in California from 2007 to 2010 increased by 30 per year. According to the National Center for Poor Children, in Philadelphia 36.4% children living in extreme poverty, 40.1% in Atlanta, 52.6% in Cleveland (!), And in Detroit 53.6%. According to the Brookings Research Institute, from 2000 to 2010 the year in the United States has increased the poverty rate from 15% to 40%.

About Detroit in general, monstrous numbers. Analysis of the census showed that 48.5% of all men living in the city at the age from 20 to 64 years are unemployed. The average cost of a house in Detroit right now is only $ 6000, and some of the houses are on display for a symbolic 1 dollar. Only 25 percent of school students finish high school. The city has become a very dangerous place to live. Recently, 100 bus drivers refused to go on the line, fearing for personal safety. The head of the drivers union, Henry Gafni, said that drivers “fear for their lives.” ... “Our drivers are scared, they fear for their lives. This security situation has been going on for a long time. I think that yesterday’s incident simply overwhelmed patience when one of our drivers on Rosa Parks was beaten by teenagers, and the police got there thirty minutes later, and this is in the center of Detroit, ”said Gefni. At the moment, Detroit is a city that thieves and vandals are tearing apart. Buildings are literally being taken apart by people who are looking for at least something that can be sold and stay afloat.

In Detroit, there is a serious war to ensure that street lighting works in the city. Thieves, outdated equipment and lack of funding prevent the authorities from solving this problem. City officials believe that 15-20 percent of 88.000 street lamps do not work, and recognize that in some areas this number can reach 50 percent. But street lighting has become a major disaster, not only in Detroit. In Highland Park, Michigan, most streetlights were removed because the city did not pay for electricity. In the city of Fresno, California, the theft of copper wires of street lighting has become a serious problem. Today, the repair of lighting lines and the loss of copper wire cost the city monthly 50 thousand dollars. Now about 2500 lighting poles stand without wires. An interesting comment about a trip to Detroit of the Belarusian Andrei Rogov, who now works in Canada as a truck driver: “A terrible abandoned city with a very high crime rate. There are many places where the police do not drive in at all. They are shot there from a corner. Once due to construction and the heavy snowfall turned into some side streets on the wagon. At each (!) intersection, negro drug dealers stand like guardsmen. "

This year, the United States again fell in the WHO ranking of growth rates of tuberculosis incidence (already 6 place in the world) and STDs (5 place). The rate of HIV infection in Washington is higher than in West Africa, said the director of the agency for the fight against HIV and AIDS of the District of Columbia:…. “We have a higher level than in West Africa,” says Shannon Heider, director of the agency who led the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Zimbabwe. “We are on par with Uganda and some parts of Kenya.” Canada has come up with very "unusual" ways to prevent the spread of disease. For example, in Vancouver, British Columbia provinces are distributing free pipes with a heavy crack drug to drug addicts to reduce the spread of disease. But there is a limitation - a person is allowed no more than one free pipe with a crack per day.

Stockton

The city of Stockton declared bankruptcy on 28 last June due to a downturn in the housing market and accumulated debts. Over the past few years, the city has cut more than $ 90 of millions of expenses, especially for the police department, which has predictably led to an increase in murder and general crime. Ruslan Bezhemsky, who returned to his native St. Petersburg in June, said: “The city dump in Stockton is just a few blocks from the city hall. There are a lot of suspicious people around, mostly black. And I have not seen such a large number of homeless people even in Moscow crossings - they are almost there more than ordinary passers-by. Constantly begging for trifles, and if you give one, then a few more immediately run up. On the streets hang signs about leasing offices in whole buildings, but there are none. Half of the buildings in the city or on chains, or boarded up. The only thriving business in Stockton is selling liquor. Later in the evening, the streets of the city are filled with drunken black teenagers, at the sight of whom it immediately becomes uncomfortable. For a whole day in the city, I never saw a single policeman, even in the center. But almost with every gateway there is a smell of marijuana. "

Unknown heroes

Below is a partial list of the largest US bankrupt cities, which the general public is not aware of.

Mammoth Lakes, California

On July 3, Mammoth Lakes filed for bankruptcy due to his inability to pay $ 43 million, filed by the city planner against the city, on a claim for compensation.

San Bernardino, California

San Bernardino filed for bankruptcy, becoming the third largest bankrupt American city. Instead of major cuts for the police and fire departments, as the Stockton did, the city chose to file for bankruptcy. City lawyer James Penman says that the documents submitted to the mayor and the city council, 13 of 16 years were falsified, and thus concealed the true expenses of the city, only aggravating its financial problems.

Rockland County, New York

The district already cut 412 jobs in the middle of last year, after Moody's gave him a negative outlook because of its budget deficit of 18 million dollars. This year, the authorities fired another 514 staff. All American analysts are unanimous in the opinion that the city has come close to default, which will inevitably come during the 1-1,5 year.

Scranton, PA

Scranton in the budget currently lacks about $ 16,8 million. To help reduce costs, the city has reduced around 400 state jobs. "The city has no money," said city council member Robert McGoff. "We live every day like the last." Bankruptcy Forecast: I quarter 2014 of the year.


Providence, Rhode Island

At the end of May, a judge appointed to the bankruptcy of Central Falls (a city in Providence District) declared, “I don’t know how else they can get out of it, except by declaring bankruptcy.” Forecast of default: Autumn 2013 of the year.

Santa Ana, California

According to Moody's, the city’s credit rating is only one unit higher than insolvent status. Bankruptcy forecast: 2014 year.

Long Beach, California

Long Beach revised contracts with police and fire unions to cut pension spending in an attempt to reduce overall costs and save 18,5 million dollars for the city budget. Projected bankruptcy: 2014 year

Costa Mesa, California

To save money, the city of Costa Mesa sold police helicopters and cut wages. Bankruptcy is expected in December 2013.

San Diego, CA

Pension problems have plagued the city for many years, and most of the proposed solutions have a negative effect on the new workforce, doing little to reduce all the growing debts. Default in 2014.

Los Angeles, CA

The city budget deficit is $ 238 million, it also has huge unsecured pension liabilities and an annual budget of almost 7 billions of dollars. Expected default (if the federal center does not save it): February 2014 of the year.

The Governor of Michigan, Rick Snyder, announced in January that, according to his calculations, in his state 235 of large and small cities that are functional bankrupt. One of these cities in Michigan is the city of Flint. At one time, Flint was called “the engine city of America” because there was a Buick assembly plant, a large spark plug manufacturing plant, and a Fisher Body. None of these units is functioning anymore. "Engine City" has become a "city of murders." Last year, 102 recorded these crimes in a city with a population of 66. The kill rate is even worse here than in Baghdad.

According to analysts, cities such as Chicago and Santa Fe (New Mexico) have alarmingly high retirement obligations compared to their incomes. Moody's singles out Santa Fe (New Mexico) among American high-cost US cities, whose net retirement obligations are six times its operating income — the worst among all cities. This is followed by Virginia (Minnesota), where this excess is 5.9 times. Las Vegas (New Mexico) is in third place with 5.5 times exceeded, while Chicago is fourth with 5.4. Moody's Investor Services downgraded Chicago's credit rating by three points to A3, and Cincinnati down to Aa2 because of rising pension costs. Like Detroit, Chicago experienced a 7 percent decline in population from 2000 to 2010 a year, but it’s still flowers, compared to the catastrophic 25-percent decrease in Detroit’s population over the same period of time.

World Bank expert Eric Schweitzern in an interview with Expert Online explained: "In the USA, many social obligations were transferred from the federal to the state level in recent years, and the states themselves, in turn, willingly gave them to municipalities. Suffice to say that from 22 social programs initiated since 2008 under the Anti-Crisis Pact, only 3 remained with the federal center and 7 - with state budgets. Distressed assets in the public administration system are also transferred to districts and urban settlements. hide the huge deficit of the consolidated budget of the country, which, when considered in combination, already has defaults. To cover the deficits with traditional transfers from Washington is no longer possible due to the law on sequestration. Over the next 3 years we expect an avalanche-like process of bankruptcies of US cities, which able to put the whole country on the brink of sovereign default. "

In conclusion, we only note that the United States, despite the titanic efforts of the government to return industrial enterprises to the country, is still faced with the migration of industries to Asia. According to the OECD, over the past 20 years, more than 43 of thousands of companies, or 76% of the US industrial potential, have moved their plants from the states to XNUMX. And the social obligations of the state remain at an extremely high level. The current political elite will have to go to unpopular measures to reduce social standards. But Americans are so accustomed to a comfortable life with large benefits and pensions that they cannot even accept this idea. Disturbances of the disgruntled are already taking place with enviable regularity with any significant reduction in budgetary obligations to the population. Barack Obama has a difficult share - to teach US citizens to live within their means and finally deprive them of the great American dream.
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  1. +79
    7 August 2013 08: 16
    It is somehow sinful to rejoice over the troubles of other people, especially since this will mainly affect the "common people of America", but I would very much like this crisis to moderate the "appetites" of many politicians from the United States and they finally stop "worrying about the prosperity of democracy in all over the world ", but would deal with the internal affairs of the country ... I think the United States and the whole world as a whole would only be better off ...
    1. Vasya Ivanov
      +41
      7 August 2013 08: 50
      Everything is more complicated here, politicians in the USA as well as around the world do not decide what puppets they are, sovereign politicians can be counted on the fingers. And for those who can solve social issues, they’ll fuck up with a single state, even if it’s the United States. They are facing global issues, reducing the world's population through the advancement of LGBT people, GMOs, global military conflicts, and a depressed economy can only do that to them.
      And laughing is really bad, but you see the bending economy of the United States somehow joyfully becoming a soul.
      1. +35
        7 August 2013 09: 33
        Quote: Vasya Ivanov
        And laughing is really bad, but you see the bending economy of the United States somehow joyfully becoming a soul.

        Enough to parasitize around the world, these fat simple peaceful people of the United States. Let them learn to live within their means and learn to respect other countries.
        It's time to go on a diet.
        1. +1
          7 August 2013 13: 44
          Enough to parasitize around the world, these fat simple peaceful people of the United States. Let them learn to live within their means and learn to respect other countries.

          And they live within their means, they work out all the loans in the course of their lives, who is to blame for the fact that our banks cannot make normal rates. And about respect for other countries, is it their business to respect or not, or do you think the crisis will make them love Russia? The United States was not driven into debt by ordinary citizens, they just plow more than ours there, but the government and those behind it, in particular, the Fed and its owners.
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          4. +19
            7 August 2013 14: 43
            hi
            And is this a country that prohibits us from picking our nose?

            And you know, colleagues, this is probably a sin, but it ... makes me happy, this article ...

            From the bastion of the world démocracy and liberty, it increasingly begins to blow out the stench of decomposition, and these are the first signs of the logical beginning of the end of an obese, snickering and completely rusty country - a mutant with voluptuousness transforming his men into pid.aras.
            1. +24
              7 August 2013 14: 47
              Even in the worst times of the fierce 90's under the patronage of P.indostan, in Russia there was no happening what is beginning to happen now in this outwardly well-fed, rosy and prosperous country - it's time to pay the bills for the robbery and innocent spilled blood.



              I repeat, but usually I am “tolerant of gnashing of teeth”, but now I will say frankly - I HATE P.indosia with the whole being of my Slavic and Orthodox soul and heart.
              The accursed country of the wbp and u.b.l.u.d.ko.v. in full understanding of these words.
              And all the comments on the events in this country only from this observation point!

              And I'm sure that I'm not alone in my addictions to this mutant country ...

              1. bilgesez
                +3
                7 August 2013 17: 51
                All this is true, but they are not to blame. They are simply sheep who gave wool, and now they are being driven to the slaughterhouse.
                1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                  +7
                  7 August 2013 19: 14
                  Yes, clever Jews found the American herd of sheep and drove to ark? And the rest of the world looks open, or is tied up too .... It's time to score this Jewish Jewish-Anglo-Saxon private Fed to score a POWERFUL traffic jam from RMB
          5. +3
            8 August 2013 04: 36
            Quote: Joker
            And they live within their means, they work out all the loans in the course of their lives, who is to blame for the fact that our banks cannot make normal rates. And about respect for other countries, is it their business to respect or not, or do you think the crisis will make them love Russia? The United States was not driven into debt by ordinary citizens, they just plow more than ours there, but the government and those behind it, in particular, the Fed and its owners.

            I’ll leave all this nonsense without comment ...
            But here is this line:
            Quote: Joker
            they just plow there more of ours

            The fact that neither plow more than yours is possible.
            But fear God! A country whose production is 80% transferred to other countries, simply by definition cannot "plow".
            And you don't have to tell me how they "plow" there ... Unfortunately, I have to work a lot with Exxon in the US (on business trips) and other large organizations.
            And I see (as the chief engineer of one of the research institutes of the Russian Federation) how ours and theirs work.
        2. 0
          8 August 2013 07: 11
          "Jumped" American democracy don't teach us, at first put things in order!
      2. Fire
        +12
        7 August 2013 11: 51
        It is sinful to laugh at the sick Americans, but for what they fought, they ran into something ...
      3. mnn_13
        +9
        7 August 2013 14: 52
        And you understand something else - why all these infections (GMOs, LGBT, drugs) they so persistently want to spread the world by weight!
    2. +19
      7 August 2013 09: 00
      I recommend this article for reading to this visitor, convinced of the incredibly high level of social support by ordinary US citizens by the authorities. And life in his words in the USA is much better than in Russia. Although yes, real estate has fallen in price wassat Yarosvet AU, you seem to have a friend in the USA and pensioners in France are booming lol
      1. +13
        7 August 2013 09: 16
        A freebie is not eternal, it is punishable in the form of received, future complications in every sense!
      2. fokino1980
        +1
        7 August 2013 11: 29
        Hello! I'm looking for this guy with a "direct link to the beacon of democracy"! Not yet drawn! We are waiting for a direct connection! drinks
      3. Yarosvet
        -3
        7 August 2013 14: 24
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yarosvet AU, you seem to have a friend in the USA and pensioners in France are booming

        Compared to us, they thrive.

        Once again: the consumer basket of the mattress consists of 300 tons of goods and services, the consumer basket in the Russian Federation has 156 names.

        The price of a consumer mattress basket is $ 700, a minimum wage of 1200.
        The price of a consumer basket for the able-bodied population in the Russian Federation is 7095 rubles, the minimum wage is 5205.

        Several dozen cities of the country are preparing to declare bankruptcy, which means writing off debts, the federal budget does not sponsor them.
        In the Russian Federation, out of 83 regions, 70 are subsidized, that is, de facto bankrupt (how many cities on their territory - consider it yourself).

        The example of the empty Detroit shows that the population has where and what to go, the population of the Russian Federation where to go, but nothing.

        Given the above, you risk asserting that we have better?


        And one more thing - I wrote that my friends LIVED in the USA and France - so do not distort. hi
        1. eplewke
          +3
          7 August 2013 16: 08
          where such data about 70 subsidized regions ??? data for 2010? have you read wikipedia? Read then the best budget list for 2013. We are somehow raising the regions! Out of 70, 50 regions remained, and they can serve themselves 80%! Consumer basket is taken into account taking into account the average income of the population. And the gap between the marginalized and the rich population of America is much larger. The number of unemployed is much larger. Given that we are only rising after the devastating crisis of the 90s, I would have thought 10 times before defending America so fiercely. Then change the Russian flag - a disgrace!
          1. Yarosvet
            0
            7 August 2013 21: 01
            Quote: eplewke
            have you read wikipedia?
            Do you have any refuting materials? Link.

            Out of 70, 50 regions remained, and they can serve themselves 80%!
            Link.

            Consumer basket is taken into account taking into account the average income of the population.
            What is the average wealth? A consumer basket is the minimum guaranteed set of goods and services - a consumer basket in monetary terms is called LIVING MINIMUM.

            And the gap between the marginalized and the rich population of America is much larger.
            Is your head bored? Gini coefficient look, genius.

            The number of unemployed is much more
            2%, and unemployment benefits are 5 times higher than in Russia.

            Given that we are only rising after the devastating crisis of the 90s, I would ...
            With such a policy you will rise for another 500 years (according to Zhenya Fedorov).
            1. Basil123
              -2
              8 August 2013 05: 44
              everything can be reduced to a number and it will turn out we earn a little worse, but in reality we earn as much as we want the possibilities of darkness and our cities grow and villages die out but they are usually not needed there what kind of land is enough for 20 people to process 2000 population there is no need ju VERY glad about the right path ............ wink
              1. Yarosvet
                0
                8 August 2013 12: 42
                Quote: Vasily123
                but in reality we earn as much as the desire for opportunities
                This phrase, my friend, comes from the adoption of the "norms" of social Darwinism - with which I congratulate you.
            2. eplewke
              -2
              8 August 2013 08: 39
              Why are you then living in Russia Genius ??? Go to your beloved states and throw mud at Russia! Until then, be so kind as to respect your country !!! Brrr !!! Amazing "patriots" ...
              1. Yarosvet
                0
                8 August 2013 12: 33
                Quote: eplewke
                what do you live in Russia then
                You have a FGM, huh? Well, it’s actually seen laughing
                Links come on.

                And, one more thing - I still do not respect my country a little bit and I’m fooling around with dirt - okay?
                I’m starting - just put the phrase "Moscow budget deficit" into a search engine - you will get the opportunity to declare me a traitor to the Motherland and an enemy of the people laughing

                Eh - FGMshchiki ...
        2. Ruslan_F38
          +2
          7 August 2013 20: 52
          The American Dream is a myth. There was no American dream and there never will be. For those who hope to dump there, you are already tired of it. Just don't come back - stink there. I would understand if they wrote praises about Germany or Austria, otherwise they found someone to admire - "well, stupid!" - you went under the table when Zadornov sang)).
          1. +1
            7 August 2013 21: 47
            Yes, not a myth, there was a dream, an ideology of a kind, until everything was taken away, as we have with communism. Only in our country communism has finally been cut out, and their capitalism has gone along a rotting path, and as a result, the country will rot. In short, the idea (Amer's dream) was good, in fact, only hypertrophied in
          2. Yarosvet
            -1
            8 August 2013 01: 09
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            My dear, what are you talking about?
        3. +1
          7 August 2013 23: 04
          Quote: Yarosvet
          The price of a consumer basket mattress

          If the whole world had also been robbed since the Second World War and printed money in unlimited quantities, the consumer basket and all other statistics would have been no worse. So the comparison is incorrect.
        4. 0
          7 August 2013 23: 04
          Quote: Yarosvet
          The price of a consumer basket mattress

          If the whole world had also been robbed since the Second World War and printed money in unlimited quantities, the consumer basket and all other statistics would have been no worse. So the comparison is incorrect.
          1. Yarosvet
            -2
            8 August 2013 01: 14
            Quote: Tverichanka

            Nina - please tell us about the connection of the Second World War with the distribution of benefits from current annual incomes - very interesting.
    3. artemiy
      +8
      7 August 2013 09: 14
      The money they spend on the pro system in Europe would be enough for needy cities!
      1. 77bor1973
        +4
        7 August 2013 13: 16
        They do not need to spend money, but develop the real sector of the economy!
      2. +2
        8 August 2013 01: 27
        This money cannot be spent in their cities - this is hyperinflation right away. Because they are not provided with anything. And they understand this very well. They only need to be exported, that is - missile defense and everything else is junk.
    4. +20
      7 August 2013 09: 19
      Quote: svp67
      It is somehow sinful to rejoice over the troubles of other people, especially since this will mainly affect the "common people of America", but I would very much like this crisis to moderate the "appetites" of many politicians from the United States and they finally stop "worrying about the prosperity of democracy in all over the world ", but would deal with the internal affairs of the country ... I think the United States and the whole world as a whole would only be better off ...


      To be completely honest, I would like this crisis to lead to the dismantling of the United States, so that there is no stone left. ... then maybe even my children will see the stars.
      1. d_trader
        +2
        7 August 2013 13: 20
        How would they finally leaving the door loudly slammed the door ..
      2. +1
        7 August 2013 22: 27
        And so it will be. As for the stars ... They had a natural, expected, planned "future". Once upon a time, the United States produced everything in the world that could be produced. But one day ... It's so simple - you don't need goods by and large! With them, with these goods and products, so much fuss! You just need money and you are the king. Here is a solution they came up with one day.
        And the money came. When financiers began to command instead of producers, money collapsed. That's just ... as it gradually became clear - the money is that people ... are not needed. All these inconvenient, nasty, nasty little people interfere with money, that is, their owners. All these workers, and employees ... we need only prostitutes of both sexes, convenient to use. Is there a better time and place for people to use for rape than general poverty? Well, they organized slowly poverty and complete hopelessness ...
        So what size "consumer basket" they have there at the moment is irrelevant. Soon, only bread will remain in it, and it will not be enough.
        But it doesn’t make us feel better. Bankers do not have a nationality, like bandits. For them, all people are food. That the Americans, that the blacks, that we ... The SGA will collapse - it will not make us feel better but worse. Piled up for real, in two ...
    5. +8
      7 August 2013 09: 24
      It is somehow a sin to rejoice over the troubles of other people, especially since this will mainly affect the "common people of America", but I would very much like this crisis to moderate the "appetites" of many politicians from the United States


      That is unlikely. American congressmen (such as John McCain) see the world exclusively from the window of a personal car. They would bomb someone instead of paying their debts.
    6. +7
      7 August 2013 09: 41
      "... cares about the flourishing of democracy around the world".
      Moreover, this "concern" is paid from the wallet of American taxpayers and is aimed at unseemly goals with criminal consequences.
    7. +15
      7 August 2013 10: 55
      It's time to take Alaska, there is still the indigenous population of RUSSIA.
    8. +9
      7 August 2013 11: 06
      [quote = svp67] Somehow it’s a sin to rejoice over the troubles of other people, but I’m happy. And I’m not ashamed
      1. DAEDALUS
        +7
        7 August 2013 14: 21
        I agree with you. We shit in the 90’s drank, it’s time for the Americans to slurp too.
    9. +9
      7 August 2013 11: 09
      Quote: svp67
      I would very much like this crisis to moderate the "appetites" of many US politicians

      Just the politicians and businessmen of the United States are happy with all this, now they have taken production to China ... now they are driving their population into a bestial condition ...
      and then they will arrange something similar as during the "Great Depression", when people did everything for a bowl of food and gold was seized for a penny ..
      US Presidential Order of April 5, 1933 to seize gold from the entire US population. For disobedience, a fine of $ 10000 is imposed, or a 10-year prison sentence, or both combined.
      + information on camps, burned camps and mass killings of people is still being cleared on the Internet
      and so here you can read it and, in general, maybe on the website how to post an article on this subject
      http://www.usinfo.ru/greatdepression.htm
      1. +6
        7 August 2013 11: 50
        and by the way 404 not found
        In American history, there is a crime against your people ...
        December 23, 2012 The beginning of the thirties - a real humanitarian disaster in US history. ... As we see, Mr. Borisov points out that in the generation of those born in the 30s, a shortage of 5 million 573 thousand is striking! ... In America, there were a large number of labor camps.
        pravda.ru ›World› North America ›USA and Canada

        and the link is no longer working and so with many links
        + information about American camps for prisoners of war in 1945 disappears ....
        During 1950, most of the materials relating to American prisoner of war camps were destroyed by the US Army.

        Eisenhower regretted the Germans useless defense of the Reich in the last months of the war due to useless losses from the German side. At least 10 times more Germans - at least 800, very likely more than 000, and quite possibly more than 900 million, have died in American and French camps than were killed in northwestern Europe since America entered in the war in 000 to April 1.

        http://www.dal.by/news/174/14-10-12-24/
    10. Uncle Serozha
      +5
      7 August 2013 12: 26
      Quote: svp67
      It is somehow sinful to rejoice over the troubles of other people, especially since this will mainly affect the "common people of America"

      +1 I also believe that hatred of the rulers who dictate US policy should not be directed at ordinary people. Moreover, remembering that many ordinary Americans tried to help us during the years of our post-perestroika crisis, I would like to believe that we have enough generosity and generosity to help them. Russia has always been famous for this.
      And as for those very rulers, it seems that the snake is once again changing its skin. Now it won't be the United States. And the question is: isn't it we who will be now? In any case, they will not just leave - as long as our life is dictated by "gastric" interests, they will continue to rule.
      1. Ferocious Bambra
        +1
        8 August 2013 08: 48
        And the responsibility for their crimes will have to ordinary mortal Americans, pay for a full life.
    11. +9
      7 August 2013 12: 36
      It is somehow sinful to rejoice over the troubles of other people, especially since this will mainly affect the "common people of America"

      Watch the news of the 90's when the Soviet Union collapsed, and how this simple people rejoiced, even in the afternoon they announced victories wherever they could arrange a procession, concerts, celebrations. So we don’t give a damn, their problems are not ours, nobody has solved our problems.
    12. +6
      7 August 2013 13: 03
      Quote: svp67
      I think that the United States and the whole world as a whole would only be better off ...

      The hitch is whether the US wants to decide their problems by peaceful means. Where are the guarantees that they will not go to unleash large military conflict with one of the states to solve these same problems?
      1. +7
        7 August 2013 14: 15
        they would have been saved by World War 3, in which they would not have participated, but would have delivered all sorts of crap to everyone, but I think they won’t succeed !!!
        1. 0
          7 August 2013 22: 15
          Quote: alekseinew
          they would have been saved by World War 3, in which they would not have participated, but would have delivered all sorts of crap to everyone, but I think they won’t succeed !!!

          at 39 it turned out! IDEA IS NOT BAD! GOLD OF THE UNION AND EUROPE IS END. IM NEEDS WAR
          1. +1
            7 August 2013 22: 30
            Well, now the world war with this is a bigger problem than 39, which states to set against each other? it’s a problem, no one wants to fight in Europe, I think the east is not so strong yet, fight for themselves, so kirdyk will be inevitable for them, as in principle for the whole world, even those countries that will not participate in the war will be covered by a radioactive cloud, to whom then money will be needed, a handful that will survive all this!
        2. Ferocious Bambra
          0
          8 August 2013 08: 50
          Before radiation, everyone is equal ...........
      2. +4
        7 August 2013 17: 14
        Quote: Corsair
        Where are the guarantees that they will not go to unleashing a major military conflict with one of the states to solve these same problems?

        Rather, there is a guarantee that they will do just that! There are no other options for getting out of the ..opa yet. Only they will not untie them themselves, but will try to provoke someone, but they will intervene, as it happened more than once towards the end ... So, as Comrade Stalin said - "do not succumb to provocations," however, one must prepare hastily! Now there is no time for any lyrics (read tolerance), the military industry should be developed at a frantic pace and the army-navy should be strengthened! In fact, the war has already begun, now its hot phase is already in full swing in the Middle East, and the Far one will soon flare up ... judging by the amerovskoy activity there.
    13. eplewke
      +10
      7 August 2013 15: 58
      600 billion bucks for the army !!! 20 billion dollars to support the Syrian fighters !!! another 10 billion to support various kinds of national organizations in different countries! 50 billion to support Egypt. 200 billion every year leaves in Afghanistan in a worthless operation! 300 billion spent on the bombing in Libya. I am still silent about how many grandmothers killed the CIA-bribes to bribe and bribe all kinds of terrorists and politicians. And in the cities themselves, they will live in poverty ... Yes, I am shocked by this government ... They spit on their people and other countries, too, for their political influence in the world.
    14. SASCHAmIXEEW
      +3
      7 August 2013 18: 57
      Everything is predicted ,,, Kagalu Khan ...
  2. +21
    7 August 2013 08: 18
    Damn, such articles, of course, are pleasing, but this is from a series: no matter how much you say "sugar", the mouth does not become sweeter. When is the end of the evil empire?
    1. +17
      7 August 2013 09: 10
      Quote: Vladimirets
      When is the end of the evil empire?

      And soon already. The other day, Americans have changed the methods of calculating GDP, because according to the old methods, their GDP is stable in the red. Industrial production, too. Again, according to recent data, about 50 million Americans receive food stamps.
      The only reason why they have not yet bent completely is because of the dollar. The dollar is still the main reserve currency. But printing paper no longer helps. The main buyer of US debt is the Fed, that is, they already borrow from themselves, and not from the rest of the world. China does not buy treasuries, Russia is the same. That is why, despite the printing press, the situation in their economy resembles the chronicles of a diving bomber. And the meeting with the earth is already visible with the naked eye.
    2. +24
      7 August 2013 09: 13
      America riding on a default avalanche rushes into the financial abyss. No wonder they buy plastic coffins, millions of rounds. There will be a civil war, a war of the rich states with the poor. In theory, America came to the throat of China, where the greedy Americans moved their production. America’s GDP is a myth, there is no production as such, except military. Some exchanges, banks, insurers, lawyers, printing presses, purchased ratings.
      1. +6
        7 August 2013 10: 39
        It’s just that the idiocy of the Americans had to grow in order to become noticeable to the rest of the world. It’s just time to pay for the troubles caused to the world.
        1. Alex 241
          +2
          8 August 2013 01: 19
          ..........................................
    3. Constantine
      +7
      7 August 2013 09: 26
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Damn, such articles, of course, are pleasing, but this is from a series: no matter how much you say "sugar", the mouth does not become sweeter. When is the end of the evil empire?


      Let them fight a bit instead of dealing with internal problems and then they will come. The top of idiocy is to sponsor thugs with weapons, pour tons of money into the overthrow of authorities in other countries, and at the same time not provide their cities with even bulbs, in the right amount, to illuminate the streets. sad At the same time, local politicians are also escalating the situation, simultaneously accusing Obama of not investing enough in foreign policy. Strange they somehow cherish their homeland. Played at all. lol

      The picture resembles a steam boiler, which worked to the limit of its capabilities and now rivets and jets of steam are flying out of it. smile
  3. +3
    7 August 2013 08: 29
    American Dream
    1. +6
      7 August 2013 15: 29
      like that from Ramstein

      In the text, in an ironic-satirical vein, the fact that the whole world “belongs” to the USA is ridiculed.
      The video clip sarcastically ridicules the globalization and penetration of American culture in all corners of the globe. So, a small tribe of Africans eats pizza, Buddhists choke on hamburgers and cola, a Bedouin takes off his sneakers in front of a prayer rug and prays in the direction of the gas-burning torch of an oil production unit, an Indian lights a Lucky Strike, and so on. At the same time, they all remember to watch one of the global channels on television, where Rammstein in the costumes of astronauts on the moon perform a song. All featured viewers with happy faces sing "We all live in America."
      By the end of the clip, the "astronauts" begin to rage, someone pulls out a pinball. And at the very end, the usual shooting everyday life - scenery, lighting, make-up artist - that is, the whole moon shooting from the beginning to the end is a fake. The video ends with the famous phrase "Houston, we have problems."
  4. waisson
    +9
    7 August 2013 08: 31
    I read and rejoiced at how Amer’s democracy is rotting, it says that it’s not .... n interfering in the personal affairs of other states, but it’s necessary to deal with their pressing problems
    1. +21
      7 August 2013 08: 50
      To be objective, it’s also possible to shoot a Tarkovsky film from Peter for 50 kilometers
      1. artemiy
        +3
        7 August 2013 09: 16
        It's about big cities, not about suburbs.
      2. +4
        7 August 2013 14: 50
        but they didn’t have the collapse of the country and the 90s ...
        besides, even with t.z. Infectious diseases, everything is not bad at all ...
  5. serge-68-68
    +26
    7 August 2013 08: 31
    Forecasts for the near death of the United States - a dime a dozen. Since the 50s of the 20th century, not only obscure current publishers, but also quite venerable scientists, were fond of this fantasy. And the collapse of capitalism was predicted almost from the 19th century. This trend and its effectiveness was even reflected in Soviet folklore (jokes). So what?
    Some of the municipalities in the United States are potential bankruptcy. And how many subjects of the Russian Federation are self-sufficient? Out of 83? And the municipalities? Do you have any idea what kind of "shishi" our villages live on, and most importantly - where do they get these "shishi" from?
    In 2008, the average house in the United States on the ocean cost as a three-room apartment in the district center (albeit large) in the Tambov region. And the budget of the Russian Federation - only two budgets in California (and California - only 13% of US GDP) And what?
    But cheers-patriots like such articles.
    No, dear ones. Remove the caps that are offensive. In order for the United States to really "be blown away" it is still necessary to work hard and hard. I think another 25-30 years.
    1. +16
      7 August 2013 08: 55
      Sergey, welcome!
      Add what I want:

      Los Angeles, CA
      City budget deficit is $ 238 million


      If in rubles, then about 7,5 billion rubles.
      I can imagine how the Financial Department and others like it would have been pulled up if there had been such a deficit in Tambov.
      I myself work in the financial sector, I know firsthand what and how. So here, these AH sizes of a hole in a budgetary pocket after 90th simply will not allow. Maybe we have less money, but financial policy is extremely cautious.
      As in other regions - I don’t know
      1. serge-68-68
        +7
        7 August 2013 09: 14
        Everything is relative. The budget of Los Angeles and the budget of the Tambov region, as they say in Odessa, are two big differences. The budget of the Tambov region - revenues (including federal money) - 24,441 billion rubles. expenses - 26,374. The deficit is almost 2 billion. It is covered by loans and savings. The region is very subsidized. In the middle of the year another 1,5 billion rubles unexpectedly fell out. The financial department is practically hung up. Together with all state employees of the region.
        In other regions, with the exception of a small number of profitable ones, the situation is equally deplorable.
    2. ed65b
      +7
      7 August 2013 09: 24
      Quote: serge-68-68
      In order for the United States to really "be blown away" it is still necessary to work hard and hard. I think another 25-30 years.

      You're right. But the work is on.
      America was killing its economy by bringing it to China and raising it. The small-town interests of the oligarchy led to this result.
      1. Ferocious Bambra
        +11
        7 August 2013 10: 05
        America will merge its own elite when it becomes profitable for them. They will announce that the USA is no more and that there is no country no debts.
    3. explorer
      +4
      7 August 2013 13: 53
      Quote: serge-68-68
      But cheers-patriots like such articles.

      The people rejoice not so much in decay, but in the confirmed dynamics of the onset of the expected retaliation for unjustified enrichment (robbery of the whole world).

      Quote: serge-68-68
      I think another 25-30 years.

      and we don’t need an instant collapse - we need time to gradually strengthen ourselves ... soldier
    4. +3
      7 August 2013 14: 23
      Yes, the point is not that everything is fine with us and we are on horseback, but that the greatest power (according to the Americans themselves), which has taught everyone to live for decades, has very serious problems!
    5. 0
      7 August 2013 23: 12
      Quote: serge-68-68
      to still a lot and hard work.

      And nobody argues with this. America’s main misfortune is the lack of industry. Enterprises long ago in China, Vietnam, India, Bangladesh. And again building your industry is an extremely difficult task. In addition (and here is an example of our country) personnel are lost, able to work. The people there have lost touch with the work of the machine ....... So the problem is huge and so far no one knows HOW it can be solved.
      1. 0
        7 August 2013 23: 28
        I would also add here a complete lack of desire to change something. Instead, hysterical behavior in the global political arena.
  6. +20
    7 August 2013 08: 32
    The same trends from Germany, quietly and quietly returning to Russia ... come from immigrants from the Middle East and Africa. There was no USSR, there was no need to fight for ideology ... because all the social achievements in the West were due to the confrontation.
  7. +5
    7 August 2013 08: 34
    Yeah .. I even felt sorry for the Americans (ordinary people)
    1. +1
      7 August 2013 23: 18
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Yeah .. I even felt sorry for the Americans (ordinary people)

      Well, it’s you in vain. They lived wonderful, ate, drank, traveled. Yes, and they constantly poked us in the face, like we all get h. ...Who does not work shall not eat!
  8. volkodav
    -9
    7 August 2013 08: 38
    "communism" with a human face comes to an end. We, too, the federal center has hung everything on the regions and municipalities, why would it be? Mr. Pu also wants to bankrupt the country and grab the Stub Fund and the National Welfare Fund
    1. volkodav
      0
      7 August 2013 14: 34
      again, fans of the sun threw such minuses, you are bred as rams on fu fu and you are being fooled hi
  9. +9
    7 August 2013 08: 41
    Damn her, with America! Let him continue to rot.
    When we cease to produce grandiose projects and when the money will be sent to the industry, where are they needed? And then all the olympiads, super exhibitions, extrasammites, high-speed roads. Then we don’t know how to maintain the rest and why we swell so much and with such quality. It is clear that the return on investments and kickbacks is almost instantaneous. Previously I believed that a rollback is at the gun and it is better not to be on the rollback line, but it turns out to be a dark self.
    1. Alejandro
      +3
      7 August 2013 12: 24
      Olympics World Cup and expressways is good for Russia. But thieves and traitors, starting with local chiefs and directors and ending with ministers, are a real disaster, which, if not fought, we will have neither good roads, nor a strong army. Yes, and the Olympics would be much cheaper IMHO.
  10. Soldier
    +4
    7 August 2013 08: 42
    Our 90s doesn’t resemble? But the Yankees are not Russians, most likely they’ll get out the hell. They have the same freedom and human rights
    1. MAG
      +2
      7 August 2013 18: 33
      I read and before my eyes was the movie Robocop) all around poverty crime corporations lacked only Murphy)))))
  11. volkodav
    0
    7 August 2013 08: 43
    in a pinch, they will cut the machine and print another dollars and give it to all those who suffer
    1. +5
      7 August 2013 09: 25
      Yes, it’s enough to repeat this mantra ... From the fact that it is repeated 100 times, the USA will no longer print because they have already printed if they could.
      1. volkodav
        +3
        7 August 2013 14: 31
        and whoever said that they couldn’t, they’ll just throw lenders and ordinary citizens first, and then they will give money to the cities, for the next elections, everything is like ours, or like ours laughing
        1. -1
          7 August 2013 23: 26
          Quote: volkodav
          and who said they could not

          And here it’s not necessary to speak. Besides domestic circulation, American dollars, as you hope, are also a reserve currency. As long as you could steam them all over the world, it made sense to print. And now many regions of the world are switching to mutual settlements in national currencies. That is, excluding the dollar. Well, where do you get the printed paper, if the turnover on international markets is sharply reduced? Have you forgotten our hyperinflation in the early 90's? It will be a disaster for America.
    2. +2
      7 August 2013 14: 28
      domestically, these dollars are not needed, they will become worse, they need to sell them to others, but here the question is whether the dollars are needed as they were before to third-party countries, I think that there is no place to throw a wedge everywhere, however
  12. +4
    7 August 2013 08: 47
    THIS IS GESTURE !!!
    I knew that there was no sugar, but soooo!
    I was especially impressed by something familiar when I read about alcohol and cut wires.
    No wonder they bought coffins, as well as cartridges in million quantities.
    Accordingly, the population rushed to arm themselves.
    Oh no good, that's all.
    Will they be a Hollywood action movie in a couple of years ...
    1. +9
      7 August 2013 09: 28
      Quote: timhelmet
      Will they be a Hollywood action movie in a couple of years ...

      This action movie was filmed in 1987, "Robocop" if you remember, the action takes place in Detroit.
    2. +8
      7 August 2013 10: 00
      Quote: timhelmet
      Will they be a Hollywood action movie in a couple of years ...

      As if the whole world was not a Hollywood action movie, 200 million armed people.
      1. +5
        7 August 2013 11: 37
        That’s true ... No matter how the war was .. Such bubbles burst with a great stink ..
      2. +3
        7 August 2013 14: 31
        I think it will be difficult for them to cross the ocean, so they will deal with each other
  13. Donetskiy
    -14
    7 August 2013 08: 48
    an article from the category of the Russian dream, the channel of nostalgia still runs news releases with reports from Soviet Union about the decaying west, but the main thing to believe!
    1. fokino1980
      +15
      7 August 2013 11: 23
      Oops !!! chki !!! Donetsk drew on !!!! Nobody steals your dream, calm down! And tell the boys sho all normul was a left schuher! We are going to Detroid, we will build Donetsk !!! good
    2. +4
      7 August 2013 14: 32
      All the tales of a paradise on earth haunt?
      It's time to grow up a little and throw off the noodles from the ears.
    3. +1
      7 August 2013 23: 29
      Quote: Donetskiy
      but most importantly believe it!

      Well, you also believe in the European Union. Why don’t we believe in the collapse of America?
  14. +3
    7 August 2013 08: 50
    Decaying capitalism has decayed not a single decade and can not rot everything.
  15. +9
    7 August 2013 08: 53
    Los Angeles, CA
    The city budget deficit is $ 238 million,

    Yes, for Hollywood, it's a penny! But who will give! And after all, in all the above cases, among the measures to combat financial difficulties, there was no "haircut" from the rich! Sell ​​the property of the city, fire employees - please! It is impossible to get into the pocket of businessmen using urban areas, infrastructure, resources, including human resources! Well, they themselves will never come to the rescue of the city. They will spread their hands and say: "All these are your problems! Everything is fine with me! Social responsibility of business? What are you talking about ??".
    1. +9
      7 August 2013 11: 19
      I feel the entrepreneur slammed the minus ... Today the news has passed. Deripaska closes aluminum plants. He says I’ll open it when a ton of aluminum will cost at least 1200 dollars. per ton. And where are the people? Not my problem says. Well, he actually said that he would open vocational reorientation courses. Schazz. Will open.
      1. +5
        7 August 2013 11: 43
        Once again ... An entrepreneur, a purely businessman, cares about staff only for profit .. When the staff is not needed, then the staff just quits and nothing personal .. People with sober thinking are capable of responsibility .. We don’t have many of them, but there seems to be no ... No.
    2. +3
      7 August 2013 11: 39
      They bring production to Asia ... What is the responsibility ?????????? Well thought ???
  16. +5
    7 August 2013 08: 59
    The United States deliberately omits — they consume too much — and the world's backstage is not at all needed for over-consumption.
    1. +5
      7 August 2013 17: 07
      US specifically omits - they consume too much
      But there is a rational grain in this! The USSR and the social bloc have been destroyed, there is no geopolitical rival, and there is no need to maintain such a costly project as "The American Dream", so this project is being merged quietly. hi
  17. +7
    7 August 2013 09: 07
    Soon people will trample on us (fleeing from gays)))) laughing
    1. +3
      7 August 2013 19: 20
      Jews will soon trample on us: Israel may not withstand the onslaught of the Arabs, and they have nowhere else to go. So get ready.
  18. +5
    7 August 2013 09: 18
    Dual sensuality.
    The fact that with a snickering face and a little amer unfolds to reality is good.
    And on the other - people feel sorry. They are purely children, they do not understand why it is becoming so shitty: ((
  19. +2
    7 August 2013 09: 21
    with what they fought for something and fought
  20. +8
    7 August 2013 09: 22
    I hope our generation will live to see the collapse of the United States .... history is cyclical :)
  21. ed65b
    +19
    7 August 2013 09: 26
    Yes, for a long time everyone was throwing at municipalities and regions.
    But we have not died and will not die. The resilience of the Russian person, the ability to survive is our main advantage. Only we dig a garden, go to the forest for mushrooms, raise chickens, pigs, cows. No again I come to the conclusion, We are not defeated. Imagine a 90 situation in America. Covered with a copper basin. And we slipped along the edge but slipped through, although the losses were terrible. let the Americans get ready now, study our experience. Returnees are typical "flyers". They ran where it was better, and now it has not grown together back rushed to tell the horrors. And later, everyone in the swamp will be demanding changes.
    1. +6
      7 August 2013 12: 39
      Quote: ed65b
      Returnees are typical "flyers". They ran where it was better, and now it did not grow together back rushed to tell the horrors. And later, everyone in the swamp will be demanding changes.

      Yes, my will would not allow them to return to their homeland. These people have already made a conscious choice, no one forced them to do so. And all this chamomile - "I'll leave, I'll come", in the words of Lenin, said to Trotsky, smacks of political and civil prostitution. Of course, the country has a difficult situation with demography, but the return of Russians who did not voluntarily find themselves in the Soviet republics after the collapse of the Union is one thing, but these returnees are completely different, we do not need such citizens negative .
      1. volkodav
        +1
        7 August 2013 14: 55
        in vain you are so, let them be better than uneducated wild Asians
    2. +5
      7 August 2013 14: 39
      Precisely, the gardens distributed to the population of Russia did their job free of charge, and food and stress were removed due to hard work. And blacks in the USA have no gardens and no one will give them land, and laziness is easier for them to go to marauding.
      1. ed65b
        +4
        7 August 2013 15: 28
        Quote: gecko
        Precisely, the gardens distributed to the population of Russia did their job free of charge, and food and stress were removed due to hard work. And blacks in the USA have no gardens and no one will give them land, and laziness is easier for them to go to marauding.

        And what work after the third jamb? Yes, and they are accustomed to track in Africa side under palm trees. laughing
    3. +1
      8 August 2013 07: 46
      Quote: ed65b
      . Covered with a copper basin.


      I think the Fed would no longer have it on a copper day ... Almost all of this "building" material is plywood there.
  22. +9
    7 August 2013 09: 39
    I'm going to listen to Nautilus Pompilius - Good-bue America!))
  23. -9
    7 August 2013 09: 42
    As far back as I can remember, the "west" is constantly rotting and stands on the edge of the abyss. But I’ve probably lived half my life, and I’m starting to doubt something: maybe the West is on the edge, but we ourselves seem to be looking at this picture from the abyss. And to directly compare us is insanity.
    1. fokino1980
      +2
      7 August 2013 12: 10
      Not and are you still sure that he is thriving ??? fool
      1. +4
        7 August 2013 12: 34
        In principle, I don’t care much about their decline, I doubt that we are flourishing.
        1. 0
          7 August 2013 23: 43
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          , I doubt that we are flourishing.

          And here, in no comments, no one claimed that we were prospering. The vast majority of people really appreciate the situation. The fact that we began to get out of the failure of the 90s is yes! But prosperity is still far away. But America is not very far from collapse .
          1. 0
            8 August 2013 07: 54
            Well, dashing years have passed ... there a candle burns on the window ... and without options
    2. 0
      7 August 2013 14: 39
      decay does not decay, but sweet they will not live like that anymore, this is a fact
      1. +1
        7 August 2013 16: 14
        It’s not good to gloat.
        I don’t remember which of the Decembrists said: "We wished that there were no poor, but the Bolsheviks did so that there were no rich". It’s the same here: you don’t need to drag others around into your swamp (this is a metaphor), and climb up yourself.
        1. +3
          7 August 2013 18: 00
          with the Decembrists clearly went too far ...
        2. +1
          7 August 2013 20: 07
          The Decembrists knew the Bolsheviks? This is a bearded joke about the old countess.
          1. -1
            7 August 2013 22: 19
            Well, yes, I’m stupid :-) they are certainly not more correct about them, I don’t remember the author. Maybe a bearded countess, maybe a daughter, maybe a son.
  24. +18
    7 August 2013 09: 52
    This is absolutely true: all the so-called "nishtyaks" for the commoners, whom the Western liberal-democratic pedagogue was so proud of and who so attracted our and other "residents", were worked out not as achievements of capitalist society, but in spite of it, in order to resist the Soviet bloc, so as not to anger their commoners, who might otherwise arrange something in the Western countries in the form of revolutions. But with the collapse of the Soviet bloc, the need for flirting with the people disappeared and capitalism is gradually returning to square one, that is, it becomes what it really is - a system in which there are few rich and many poor, a system in which profit rules, a system in which any morality is replaced by money, the system that "communism" builds for the rich, and harlem for everyone else.
    1. Yarosvet
      +5
      7 August 2013 14: 45
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      ... "nishtyaks" for commoners were developed not as achievements of capitalist society, but in spite of it, in order to resist the Soviet bloc ...
      ... capitalism is gradually returning to normal, that is, it becomes what it really is - a system in which there are few rich and many poor, a system in which profit rules, a system in which all morality is replaced by money, a system that builds "communism" to the rich, and harlem to everyone else.

      good

  25. +5
    7 August 2013 09: 54
    Another thing that bothers me is why they are ready to help Egypt 1,5 billion, literally that week, but they are not "patching up" their holes. In general, it is unrealistic for them to "get out", they are accustomed to a high standard of living. They are unlikely to want to tighten their belts for anything. The structure of their production is only 15-20% of production. the rest (see figure) finance, trade, services, etc. This just explains why they buy cartridges for the guard and build conc. camps. And yet, why don't they "turn on the printing press" for themselves?
    1. +5
      7 August 2013 10: 07
      Geopolitics is more important than your people ... so dear! UTB about Egypt! And so they print 29 million unsecured candy wrappers per hour!
    2. Kipish
      +3
      7 August 2013 10: 49
      Well, they will turn on the printing press and what to do with it, because now there are not very many who are looking at this money, but will turn away altogether, because people do not need pieces of paper, but what they can buy. and who will sell them for candy wrappers? After all, they turned it on and off because there was already an edge, or you continue to print and use it as toilet paper, or if you stop, and they at least stay a little afloat.
  26. +15
    7 August 2013 09: 56
    I wish I had pity on the Americans, but I can’t.
    Reagan called us the "Evil Empire" too. And the Americans were very happy that the USSR collapsed.
    I am not happy with their problems, but I can’t even regret it. Nothing personal.
  27. +8
    7 August 2013 09: 58
    The article put a minus. I am very sorry for the American kids, but as a child my mother told me: "They have their own parents." Therefore, I am more concerned about the social status of our fellow citizens in Russia, young and old. And I don't think this situation is particularly joyful, and there is no reason for joy: food security is in the anus, agriculture is in the same place, communal services are in the same place. Medicine, education, employment (like a Muscovite in Moscow, I might not be smart) - all these industries leave much to be desired (perhaps I did not name all of them).
    The article tells us to the readers: "Look, Russia is not alone in the ass - the Americans are no better! Well, now we will live!"
  28. +2
    7 August 2013 10: 04
    Everything in this world is cyclical! Now the states are changing places with the countries of the third developing world ...
  29. +6
    7 August 2013 10: 04
    It is necessary to adopt American children, to accept dissidents. Philosophers, scientists, technologists. Fortunately, many of them have Soviet roots.
    Reduce the number of European and Asian US populations. Reduce their scientific and analytical potential.

    Then return Alaska to the Tungus tribes.
    1. +8
      7 August 2013 17: 26
      Quote: KG_patriot_last
      accept dissidents. Philosophers

      But these are not necessary! There are enough of their starwalkers fool bully
  30. +5
    7 August 2013 10: 13
    a few years ago, in disputes about the United States, every time, proving that you can’t live beyond your means and that it will end soon, I have been beaten with an iron argument that this is all talk, and they live better than anyone else in the world .... I think very soon I don’t have to prove anything to anyone ...

    rightly so, I don’t feel sorry for them at all. they spare no one
  31. +6
    7 August 2013 10: 22
    Personally, in this whole story, I am concerned about the question: WAYS OF EXIT FROM F .. S? If cutting military spending and cutting aid to Israel and other Clients is one thing. If traditionally: bombing someone and bringing "democracy" is different. Now it is clear why the PRC, India, we are re-arming so quickly. The specter of the global crisis is becoming more and more real, and the world leader is not going to get out of it on his own, he wants, as always, at the expense of someone else. It seems due to the "Chinas". Maybe I'm wrong, but something says that it will be hot soon.
    1. 0
      8 August 2013 17: 03
      Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
      It is now clear why China, India, we are so rapidly rearming. The ghost of the global crisis is becoming more and more real, and the world leader is not going to leave it on his own, x

      I agree, the war is not far off, I hope that this cup of us, the Slovenes in Russia will pass! And they almost do not care about a political entity called the USA, they need the whole world and global dictatorship over it, and therefore such neglect of internal problems. but there are still forces inside the United States who want to rely on strong America, so I try to return my problems.
      Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
      It seems due to the "Chinas". Maybe I'm wrong, but something says that it will be hot soon

      no, you’re not mistaken, most likely it is precisely with China that the states will cling to, perhaps even business will come to nuclear weapons. The world conflict should not work, but they will have a real war, but not a long one. The forces will end quickly, the US will not have a strong desire to invade China, and bombing it quickly will end their technology. China, however, can only do something with their fleet and with the bases closest to it, and it’s impossible for America to reach it!
      Something like this I see the future, Alexander!
  32. Grigorich 1962
    +4
    7 August 2013 10: 23
    Yes, you must definitely help the States .... finally fall into three or four independent suburbs ..... and return our scientists, engineers and programmers to Russia ....
  33. +13
    7 August 2013 10: 36
    People, you are too optimistic. Put Russian names in the place of American cities and you will be amazed - how similar everything is! Where does the Russian village go? What do young people do? At what level is our medicine, education and other social sphere? And you all applaud and wait for the States to bend. It is enough to drop the oil price and we will shudder from the price level. Here, without any fall, gasoline "took off", the oilmen just wanted it so much. No need to rub your hands looking at others, we ourselves have problems - above the roof.
    1. +3
      7 August 2013 10: 59
      Quote: IRBIS
      Here, without any fall, gasoline "took off", the oilmen just wanted so much

      For the oil industry is not necessary! The simple people who produce oil in the fields deserve respect for their and difficult and even dangerous work. It’s not they who set the prices that you really are, but the owners ...
    2. +4
      7 August 2013 11: 50
      So where does the village go ???????? AND? Here in the Vladimir region, all the breeding factories open .. And the village leaves ... Probably there robots milk the cows, and robots feed the pigs too .. And the crap, for example Tsybeevo, a ghost ... Next time I wipe my eyes and cross myself, suddenly the obsession will disappear ... And medetsin ... And where is it good ??? AND? By the way, there are a lot of young people in Tsybeev and probably all are humps and earplugs. Distinguish the dynamics ...
      1. +2
        7 August 2013 14: 11
        What did you want to say with this example? What began the great revival of the Russian countryside? And again in the villages you can hear the mooing of huge herds of cows, and the village youth returned to their origins and are working in the fields and arable land? Have you traveled around Russia for a long time? Or do you draw conclusions from isolated examples? Where is this "dynamic" that I have to distinguish? What is it? All these dynamics are products on the market and in stores, which are 90% brought from overseas. Only grandmothers sell their own, and even then rarely. We passed the "market" relations and passed off the overbought goods as "our own, home", but they push with a surcharge. So where has the village gone?
        1. +4
          7 August 2013 14: 53
          well, it’s not all at once, everything can be destroyed quickly, but it’s a very big problem to recover, especially on a countrywide scale, I’ve been working as a store manager in a large retail network for a long time, and since I was completely overwhelmed, the dead shops were sent to reanimate me so I’ll tell you that the shops were ruined in a couple of months, and everything had to be put in order for a very long time, and here the whole state, I live in the Krasnodar Territory, not everything is good, but I see improvements very often!
        2. +5
          7 August 2013 15: 50
          Quote: IRBIS
          What did you mean by this example? What began the great revival of the Russian village? And again in the villages you can hear the mooing of huge herds of cows, and the village youth returned to their origins and works on the fields and arable land? Have you been to Russia for a long time?

          That's just what came from kmndr. Hang out in the area of ​​repairs - Saransk -Temnikov (Mordovia). Do not believe it: really
          Quote: IRBIS
          you hear the mooing of huge herds of cows
          I was stunned. Neatly mowed fields. Hay is rolled up. And they were in the very outback of Mordovia. Animals - the sea. Wheat (or Che there - not an agronomist) turns yellow everywhere. The houses are painted. Nizhny Novgorod, Yaroslavl region made a completely favorable impression. At least outwardly. Here is the Kirov region. - yes ... Destruction and poverty in the villages.
        3. +1
          7 August 2013 16: 12
          I will support the sadness on the issue of the village. Such gurts as before, we have not seen or heard for a long time. But where are 90% of the goods brought in stores from abroad, and even more so in the market? Write down the goods?
          1. -1
            7 August 2013 18: 23
            Quote: Gleb
            but where in the stores 90% of the goods brought in from over the hill? And even more so in the market? Write down for the goods?

            Kaliningrad region, absolutely any category of goods. Sometimes it’s its own (season), mainly Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, etc.
      2. 0
        7 August 2013 23: 50
        Quote: ariy_t
        . Distinguish dynamics.

        Thank. And plus. It's a pity that one.
      3. +1
        7 August 2013 23: 56
        Quote: ariy_t
        Here in the Vladimir region, all the breeding factories open .. And the village leaves ... Probably there robots milk the cows, and robots feed the pigs too .. And the crap, for example Tsybeevo, a ghost ... Next time I wipe my eyes and cross myself, suddenly the obsession will disappear ...

        V. I. Lenin noted: “At the head of these centers is the town of Orekhovo-Zuevo, in terms of the number of workers it is second only to the capitals.” (Lenin V. I. Complete collection of works. Vol. 3, p. 520.)
        Try to find how many plants and factories are left now? (I note with horror that the city is now in subsidies).
    3. +5
      7 August 2013 11: 54
      Quote: IRBIS
      Here, without any fall, gasoline "took off", the oilmen just wanted it so much.

      Soon, Chubais will also introduce a social rate of electricity consumption, and everything above the limit will be several times more expensive and we, the population, will pay for luminous advertising for domestic businesses and the like, despite the fact that the people of the USSR built power plants and power lines for a long time they paid for themselves, and electricity is only becoming more expensive.
      Let's see how the people will react to such tricks of the authorities and the lobbying of their interests by the oligarchs.
    4. +2
      7 August 2013 12: 18
      Quote: IRBIS
      Here, without any fall, gasoline "took off", the oilmen just wanted it so much.

      No, it’s not the oil industry, it’s our politicians who increased the excise tax and added a road tax to gasoline, although according to rumors the excise tax will increase and a liter of 92 (not 3-4 euro, but a simple one) will cost about 40-45 rubles ...
      1. volkodav
        -1
        7 August 2013 15: 19
        but Putin’s admirers will never say it in a rumor — he’s great! How will the people react? Yes, as always, they will hold together until the next election and again vote for EP and Putin
      2. 0
        7 August 2013 15: 55
        In our Crimea it’s worth it) and it’s nothing to drive a car) ... I’m pouring the second one exclusively, since the fifth bodyagi is somehow on additives ...
        1. +3
          7 August 2013 18: 44
          Quote: viktorR
          In our Crimea it’s worth it) and it’s nothing to drive a car) ... I’m pouring the second one exclusively, since the fifth bodyagi is somehow on additives ...

          You (in Ukraine) have very little of your oil.
          In Russia, a liter of gasoline should cost no more than 7 rubles per liter, all that goes higher is already theft and politics ... IMHO
          1. +1
            8 August 2013 06: 50
            Quote: PSih2097
            In Russia, a liter of gasoline should cost no more than 7 rubles per liter, all that goes higher is already theft and politics ... IMHO

            Was a week ago in Tunisia. They have absolutely no oil. True, the gas is free - they are unfastened for their transfer to the ports, why they do not drive gas from it, I don’t understand, but now it’s not about that.
            So, in Tunisia, official gasoline certainly stands in Europe. And closer to the Sahara - there is an unofficial one. It is brought by truck at night from neighboring Libya. They refuel at official gas stations, bring and sell at ... with our money 10,5 rubles. Quite nothing gasoline yourself. No duties, it’s clear, but with a fat! We, of course, are colder, the prime cost of 30 is higher, but still gasoline is more expensive than 13 - 15 rubles (and we have refineries less than 100 km and production - 400km) - it’s finally! especially compared to the USA, where it is cheaper, but imported for half the world
    5. +1
      7 August 2013 21: 51
      Quote: IRBIS
      People, you are too optimistic. Put Russian names in the place of American cities and there will be a reason to be surprised - how similar everything is!

      It’s in vain that you are so respected - the United States and Russia have too different pasts to simply put both countries on a par ... The United States has consistently pursued a policy of international financial intervention and open military aggression against other countries since the beginning of the 20th century ... Russia but (the USSR) in this sense, on the contrary, fought off external enemies ...
      Many of the current problems of the United States and the entire Western world are a legacy of the overstrain of forces during the Cold War and have been going on since Nixon times ... As well as a consequence of the domestic policy of Overconsumption ... The United States now consumes many times or maybe ten times more than other countries and this cannot continue indefinitely ... And if inside the country there is such a serious gap between rich and poor, then with a general crazy level of consumption, someone has already completely snickered and lost touch with reality !!!
      If everything is really as bad as it is written in the article, then
      The United States is a clear sign of the coming Depression ... And long periods of peace on the planet are clearly not good for them ...
    6. 0
      8 August 2013 17: 04
      Quote: IRBIS
      It is enough to drop the oil price and we will shudder from the price level. Here, without any fall, gasoline "took off", the oilmen just wanted it so much. No need to rub your hands looking at others, we ourselves have problems - above the roof.

      You "+" and my respect for the wisdom worthy of a snow leopard! hi
  34. +7
    7 August 2013 10: 43
    Let's see what will happen next. But there is a suspicion that with the fall of the United States it will shake so that neither the geyrope nor us will find it small. It is necessary to strengthen your economy.
  35. +3
    7 August 2013 10: 49
    Tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, the United States will not bend ... until the dollar is the world reserve currency and the printing press in their hands (if only there would be no shortage with paper!) ... But the idea is obvious! There are many reasons, but the main thing is that
    - AMers are successfully superseding cheap Chinese products from world markets. There is no sales, there is no income, but there is an overproduction of goods ... and the money was spent on it, the cat wept for working capital ... But in order to get stable profit according to the laws of the economy, it is necessary to invest 12-14% of the profit annually ... and she is in the cons ... Oh-oh-oh-oh, crisis, however! The crisis of overproduction!
    - the transfer of production to the "yellow countries" and high investment in these production ceased to give estimated income ... i.e. Since the temporary "free labor force", the need to make high social payments, free raw materials have passed ... All this has sharply increased the cost of production, which means you will lose in the competition ... it means a drop in sales and income ...
    - the low refinancing rate played a bad joke ... the lack of working capital led to a massive need to take loans ... and they were taken at once by many financial institutions and banks, in the hope that the crisis will go away and things will get better ... The economic crisis of 2008 , which was based on the crisis of the repayment of loans due to state investments and the inclusion of the printing press, was partially solved ... but the state cannot print money indefinitely (so as not to get superinflation) ... You can not live on indefinitely!
    - the habit of living in a big way --- there were super incomes ... there was also luxury - life! Revenues plummeted, but the habit of luxury living remained. And where is the money for this ... again - loans !! And it all starts again ...
    For the United States, the resolution of these problems is not visible in a positive way ... on the contrary ... with the loss of the status of the first economic power, all problems will only worsen ...
    Hence such a pessimistic conclusion ... but all this is not the case in the coming days ... and maybe even years ... but there are all the prerequisites for this!
  36. +6
    7 August 2013 10: 56
    Some kind of direct apocalypse is described :) In fact, with all due respect to the author hi , "the truth is somewhere nearby" :) Basically, everything is already reflected in the comments above and in the article itself.
    1) I will not say about all the States, but I myself have been in some cities. And if in LA the described nightmare did not notice, tk. in "Harlem" did not meddle :), then for San Diego I will say. This is generally the richest city in the world - if you count the specific money of the people living in it: the city of millionaires. They don't care about all these bankruptcies. And the bankruptcy of the mayor's office - it will affect a small number of "municipal government employees" and others like them. Fleet, etc. - this is the federal budget, they also pay for the city ... no difference. In general, everyone lives there as they lived, many of them do not even suspect about any crisis in their city.
    2) Well, the explanation of the entire article is described in its last paragraph. It's all elementary and natural, but who wanted otherwise? Began car production in Kansas - for example, "Lincoln" bent. They began to import cars from Japan - the whole Daytroit was bent. Moved production to China (from the 80s, by the way) - half of the country is bent. These are all the very first laws of international business and globalization that I studied 25 years ago :). And what else was to be expected?
    But this is all nonsense. Damn it to America.
    What is important is the analogy.
    Do not you think that 100% is the same thing happening in Russia?
    They began to import products - bent agricultural. The people fled from villages to nearby cities. They began to import more finished goods, switching to mainly the development of energy resources - people ran from regional centers to Moscow to those offices that rule this process. It is good that our oligarchs still rule and the state somehow still rules them. But when they drag their capitals abroad ...
    In general, there are a total of 6 stages of m / drug business. The USA is at 6, we, as a country as a whole, think of everything at 2. Therefore, the flow of the people-to us. But alas, everything is still ahead :(
    1. +1
      7 August 2013 11: 54
      The people from the village (after the revolution) always fled .. Agriculture did not bend over .. Always fled to Moscow .. Just now there is no concept of limits ... Yes, and production DOES NOT bend over the example of concern BEAR ..
      1. 0
        8 August 2013 06: 56
        [quote = ariy_t] The people from the village (after the revolution) always fled .. Agriculture did not bend .. Always fled to Moscow ..
        Dear Vladimir hi , I am not natural migration processes associated with the intensification and mechanization of labor, when in the countryside (and in factories) there are simply extra workers, with the same level of production. Or, when "woe from wits" :) - it’s over there and Lomonosov ran away :), and my parents too, and society only benefited from this :)
        I’m talking about the initial decline in production due to lack of demand by the market (due to non-competitiveness in turn), and only as a result of this is the outflow of labor.
        These are different things.
    2. +1
      7 August 2013 16: 00
      If the SH "bent" (as you fought), I think Russia would not be the leader in grain exports. Become familiar with the topic.
      1. +1
        7 August 2013 18: 27
        Quote: viktorR
        I think Russia would not be a leader in grain exports.

        Unfortunately, cereals are not all agriculture. And wheat is not all cereals.
  37. +2
    7 August 2013 11: 10
    If the states are gigantic, then it will not seem enough for everyone. The nuclear power, when it collapses, it is not known who will fall into the hands of nuclear weapons. Well, what is happening there now is again confirmation of the "golden billion" plan. They (the financial elite) do not need their own superfluous people. Remember the Big Crisis: the people of measure are like flies, and the bourgeoisie destroyed the crops so that prices did not fall. Now, if the people of the United States had lifted their oligarchs on the rotten aspen, that would be great.
    1. fokino1980
      +3
      7 August 2013 11: 26
      Well, we "giggled" and there is nothing nuclear weapons in reliable hands I will not say which department of the Ministry of Defense. The habit "darkened".
  38. Valery Neonov
    +4
    7 August 2013 11: 18
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    , The USA will no longer print because they have already printed if they could.

    Paper out ??? Help, and .... laughing Like "Nautilus" - "Farewell America, where I will never be .." - and what I have not seen there! hi
  39. +2
    7 August 2013 11: 32
    The crisis is new opportunities and prospects, we need a new Roosevelt and perhaps a big war outside the United States.
    1. +1
      7 August 2013 22: 08
      Quote: Semurg
      The crisis is new opportunities and prospects, we need a new Roosevelt and perhaps a big war outside the United States.

      US foreign policy is a continuation of the famous British policy of Pitt at one time ... According to this doctrine, Britain pushed together the strong countries of Europe in bloody wars thereby weakening all even potential competitors - and she acted either by intrigue, or by gold, or in the end of the conflict troops on the side of the winner ... A win-win...
      America developed the British strategy, but for the whole world - while the Russians and Germans were killing each other. The Americans were sitting on their continent and the British were on their island - when it became clear who the winner was, they actively intervened in the upcoming new section of the European Pie ...
      Now, having raised all this torment in the Middle East, the Anglo-Americans again wanted to apparently blow a strong fire and get warm from this - but something does not work out and this situation clearly works against them - so they are furious ...
      Therefore, I consider the main task of Russia so that the next major war would take place without its participation !!!
  40. Grenz
    +3
    7 August 2013 11: 38
    Quote: tronin.maxim
    A freebie is not eternal, it is punishable in the form of received, future complications in every sense!

    That's it! Freebies don't last forever. This is me about the author's friends, who first fled to the USA, and now running back. But among these "COMMON MEN" there will no longer be patriots of Russia. The rust of capital has already ruined their souls, but the CIA officers there also tried.
    In my opinion - he left for permanent residence, abandoned his homeland in difficult times, well, live there - eat the delights of wild capitalism. The ban at the state level.
    1. +2
      7 August 2013 12: 05
      I would not be so categorical. So you can get to the point that everyone who has left to work in Moscow will also be traitors. Germany accepted the Germans. who lived 300 years in Russia, there was a drop left from the Germans! Demographic issues should not be forgotten.
    2. sq
      0
      7 August 2013 15: 39
      It might be easier to categorize them as "gastropods" and "cephalopods" as one writer put it.
  41. +2
    7 August 2013 11: 44
    I noticed many cities from California ... How so? I don’t even know how the problems will be solved there, even if the iron Arnie could not cope ... Maybe now they need Chuck Noris? He must cope. With his then famous UCHNN (S) R .. If Chuck can’t cope, then things are bad with America.
  42. +2
    7 August 2013 11: 53
    For some reason, the symbol of prosperity of the country began to be considered not the quantity of goods produced, but speculative exchange capital. So we must now try to eat dollars, seizing stocks ...
  43. fastblast
    +2
    7 August 2013 11: 55
    Nothing new in fact, it already was.
    As I understand it, in bankrupt cities, there is a natural selection in which stubborn and booming blacks participate.

    [quote] In 1932, in Detroit, the police and the private security service of Henry Ford shot a march of starving workers who carried out a hunger march. Five people were killed, dozens injured, objectionable were subjected to repression. [/ Quote]

    Of course, if the situation worsens even more, will this not be a signal of the beginning of World War 3, if it doesn’t work through a rescue printing press?

    [quote] During the global financial crisis that began in 2008, the United States used very similar methods to deal with the course and consequences of the recession. There was a repurchase of government bonds, by the way, very high in price, as well as a constant decrease in the Fed rate. The money supply was no longer tied to the gold reserve, which made it possible to turn on the "printing press" .quote]
  44. USNik
    +1
    7 August 2013 12: 06
    Marx was right, capitalism "rotted". The main thing is that this half-corpse at the final death does not slam the door loudly.
    1. +1
      7 August 2013 18: 02
      Quote: USNik
      at the final death did not slam the door loudly.

      I would say coffin lid
  45. +1
    7 August 2013 12: 11
    Great Depression 2.0, start?
    1. +1
      7 August 2013 12: 22
      Quote: Coward
      Great Depression 2.0, start?

      the main thing is that the states did not have a way out of it like 1939-1945, otherwise they would unleash the world and weld up on it, and this is not counting the elimination of debts.
  46. +4
    7 August 2013 12: 12
    The worst part in this process is that it will pass through us with a steam rink and it won’t be enough for us! If the USSR was almost completely independent of the Western world and America, then this can not be said about today's Russia. Any cataclysms in America will provoke avalanche waves around the world, and it is known from physics that the wave grows from the center, and then damps. The main thing for us at this moment is not in shallow water (the danger of an economic tsunami and disaster), but somewhere in free navigation on a fully or at least as much as possible autonomous ship called Russia away from the western shores!
    1. Yarosvet
      -1
      7 August 2013 15: 02
      Quote: Old Warrant Officer
      The main thing for us at this moment is not in shallow water (the danger of an economic tsunami and disaster), but somewhere in free navigation on a fully or at least as much as possible autonomous ship called Russia away from the western shores!

      We will not find ourselves - the political course has been taken to occupy the niche of a raw materials appendage in the global world.
  47. Irtysh
    +5
    7 August 2013 12: 15
    It is time to begin deliveries to the suffering brothers of America of "Fire Water" from cheap rectification, expired drugs from military warehouses and Medvedev's legs.
    1. +1
      7 August 2013 16: 03
      Quote: Irtysh
      legs of Medvedev.

      !!!!!!! +++++++++ good Not long enough ...
  48. Irtysh
    +1
    7 August 2013 12: 17
    It is time to begin deliveries to the suffering brothers of America of "Fire Water" from cheap rectification, expired drugs from military warehouses and Medvedev's legs.
    1. +1
      7 August 2013 15: 02
      Quote: Irtysh
      and legs of Medvedev


      I have not heard that before! hi Why not! "+"! wink laughing
    2. +2
      7 August 2013 18: 16
      They poured sidewalks with Russian vodka
  49. +4
    7 August 2013 12: 17
    America can drown in its own feces, hopping anything. The main thing is that we don’t have such a mess stop
  50. +4
    7 August 2013 12: 31
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    It's time to go on a diet.


    not on a diet
    but just start eating from your plate
    and stop fumbling with strangers, and still teach how to hold a fork and spoon
  51. +3
    7 August 2013 12: 33
    So this is why Obamach is buying bullets for the National Guard, waiting for a color revolution?

    In general, it’s correct that when colossal budgets (not backed up by anything) are laundered from the people and the country for all sorts of F-35s and cruises of aircraft carrier groups (10 million per day), then it’s not strange that entire cities there are begging, starving, and getting sick. (They won’t even bandage you without medical insurance). And the dollar doesn’t have many prospects: it will become cheaper and multiply, or it will immediately default. There is another way out, which has already raised the economy several times - these are military rails. Only a major war, with the declaration of martial law in the country and mobilization, can pull out this mastodon with a huge stone of debt around his neck by the ears.
  52. +4
    7 August 2013 12: 33
    Barack Obama had a difficult fate - to teach US citizens to live within their means and finally deprive them of the great American dream.

    The arrogant Saxons inherited an untouched continent, with a favorable climate, with deposits of all minerals that come to the surface or lie at shallow depths.
    For 200 years, the Yusovites have rapaciously cut down forests, exterminated bison and other wild animals, ruined the deposits through illiterate mining, taking only rich ores, and pumped out rich oil deposits.
    The USA received colossal profits from free natural resources and spent them on the genocide of the indigenous population, on countless wars of conquest, on the maintenance of 1000 military bases, on the construction and maintenance of 80 aircraft carriers.
    But the freebie is over, the time has come not only to make a profit, but also to invest, and money is being printed by and by, the machine is printing, and the price of the dollar is tending to the cost of its production.
  53. +4
    7 August 2013 12: 38
    Guys! DO NOT let Israelis read this article. The Israelis will not understand it and will call it Putin’s propaganda. They, the Israelis, are sure that Statehood is their second promised land.
  54. +2
    7 August 2013 12: 59
    The effect of an avalanche is possible, everything is calm, but the sparrow has farted and America has died, a collapse can occur with insignificant trifles on the stock exchange, as in 29. Their main problem is derivatives, a time bomb, who knows when it will explode, but it will explode EXACTLY! Don't go to a fortune teller.
  55. +3
    7 August 2013 13: 02
    Detroit - The collapse of the USA in miniature.
    Currently, the main part of the city is almost completely destroyed and burned by the blacks living there. The industrial zones adjacent to Detroit, a major auto-industrial center, declare themselves financially bankrupt.
    Over the past 40 years, due to the exodus of white residents and the influx of blacks, the city's population has more than halved from 1 people in 849 to 568 in 1950.
    Next up are Las Vegas, Chicago, Philadelphia, New York and other cities, then the state of California, then all other states.
    Предлагаю ссылку:http://traditio.ru/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B5...BE%D0%B9%D1%82
  56. +2
    7 August 2013 13: 09
    There are already the first signs of impending underfunding. The US Navy will not restore the damaged submarine after the fire. The cost of repairs is 450 million dollars. http://news.rambler.ru/20472023/
  57. d_trader
    +2
    7 August 2013 13: 27
    This is the current situation in Germany
    1. +2
      7 August 2013 18: 28
      Great video!! Thanks a lot! And the guy - to our Foreign Ministry!!
  58. +1
    7 August 2013 14: 16
    The inscription on a poster in a US city - The American dream is over! - comments are unnecessary.
  59. mnn_13
    +2
    7 August 2013 14: 49
    In conclusion, we just note that the United States, despite the titanic efforts of the government to return industrial enterprises to the country, is still faced with the migration of production to Asia.


    Everything is clear - the most developed plutocracy in the world has begun to eat itself. The ruling circles are progressively moving further and further away from the problems and concerns of ordinary people. For me, there is nothing unexpected here - the shackles of society based on selfishness, lack of spirituality, and lack of heart are quite predictable. Now I understand more clearly why the United States stood on the path to world war.
  60. -2
    7 August 2013 14: 59
    Such articles, of course, delight the soul. The author saw, heard, read about how bad it is in America. But. If you believe what you see with your own eyes, questions arise.
    Why do the queues at the American Embassy in Moscow, on the Garden Ring, sometimes stretch for 2 blocks?
    I also don’t understand who goes to NBA or NHL games. When these games are shown on TV, you can see that the halls are crowded.
    And the American apparatus is working on Mars, and not some other one.
    1. +1
      7 August 2013 15: 18
      YOU are 100% sure of this. There is an old American film “The Tail Wags the Dog”, watch it, it’s very educational!
  61. Vlad_Mir
    +2
    7 August 2013 15: 25
    Everything seems to be true and correct! But as VVP said: “They have a printing press.” And as long as the world allows the United States to use this machine, nothing will change. You can write thousands of devastatingly critical articles, but the situation will remain the same!
    1. +2
      7 August 2013 15: 49
      A printing press, yes... But if the regime of military support for the authority of the dollar decreases (or collapses!), then it will be better (more profitable) to print sorting paper on this press! Soft. Let the drawing remain the same!!
  62. ed65b
    +5
    7 August 2013 15: 25
    the river begins with a stream. Who believed 50 years ago that Detroit would die safely? And now this is a Fact. so all the “good” things are ahead of them. The cat will shed the tears of a mouse. And why should I be sad about America's problems? Was it not under their strict leadership that my country ceased to exist and sipped on grief for 20 years? So I'm extremely happy.
  63. Lukich
    +2
    7 August 2013 15: 44
    ...the most interesting thing, friends, this American problem has a solution, but God forbid it be applied, but I think the Americans will still use it.

    ...Vikings, Cossacks, Stepchaks, etc., in order to cover the trade deficit, usually attacked their neighbors, went on long trips, raids, etc....

    ...America is a strong country as long as it has a chance to start and win...

    ...and who do you think will be the first victim???...
    1. +1
      7 August 2013 15: 50
      and who? according to your opinion!
  64. +3
    7 August 2013 15: 46
    Many commentators are right. It's no good to rejoice in other people's misfortunes. But in my soul I’m in high spirits. Why? Yes, simply because there is JUSTICE! It's starting to show up. Now they will try the pie they presented to the whole world, a pie made of shit. And this is good for people in the USA. And then “the best thing is AMERICA!” Fuck it! Clear your mind. They work better on an empty stomach!
    1. +2
      7 August 2013 17: 59
      The enemy's corpse always smells good! I personally don’t care about their problems, but I am not indifferent when America is engaged in subversive activities in MY country, through the Ponomarevs, Alekseevs, Rodionovs (Rabinovich), Nemtsovs, financing their foundations and feeding them with grants!
  65. +1
    7 August 2013 16: 38
    If only this bubble called the USA would burst sooner!
  66. +1
    7 August 2013 16: 54
    Americans have nothing to complain about, if they cannot live with modern civilization, they can always go back to the past, grow wheat, vegetables, and engage in cattle breeding, as in the good colonial times, then they will not starve, since the land is large.
  67. +2
    7 August 2013 17: 20
    The newspaper "Vzglyad" writes - Report: The US national debt is almost five times higher than stated by the authorities - http://vz.ru/news/2013/8/6/644518.html, the RT portal also reports that the US is in debt by 70 trillion . http://russian.rt.com/article/13607
    1. de bouillon
      +3
      7 August 2013 18: 50
      is:

      The budget deficit is 1.5 trillion.
      Trade deficit - 0.5 trillion.
      National debt - 15 trillion.
      State debts - 3 trillion.
      External debt - 15 trillion.
      Household debts - 15 trillion.
      The debts of companies are 19 trillion.
      1. 0
        7 August 2013 19: 14
        Quote: de Bouillon
        The budget deficit is 1.5 trillion.
        Trade deficit - 0.5 trillion.
        National debt - 15 trillion.
        State debts - 3 trillion.
        External debt - 15 trillion.
        Household debts - 15 trillion.
        The debts of companies are 19 trillion.

        This is how hard you had to work to owe so much...
  68. +1
    7 August 2013 17: 41
    We'll finally get Alaska back.
  69. volkodav
    +2
    7 August 2013 17: 44
    Come on, maybe in our cities poop has never flowed down the streets and sometimes it doesn’t flow now? Maybe we don’t have homeless people? Maybe we don’t have ethnic crime and corruption at all levels of government and business? Well, if we compare on equal terms, we have long been blown away, and our country has not only decayed, but has long since decayed into dust. And the latter, for those whose favorite phrase is “well, damn they are stupid,” it was they who ruined their state in the early 90s. THANK YOU to the generation of the 70s-80s, for jeans and chewing gum, the country about... or, low bow to you for this hi
    1. Tretyakov
      0
      18 August 2013 03: 58
      Quote: volkodav
      Maybe in our cities poop has never flowed down the streets and sometimes it doesn’t flow now?
      - the key word in this phrase is SOMETIMES! There are homeless people in every country! Regarding crime, it’s far from the 90s! The country is recovering, but slowly... The term “long gone” is categorically not acceptable!
  70. +1
    7 August 2013 18: 26
    Obama refused to come to Moscow because of Snowden, which confirmed my comments, as they say, “Maxim died, well, to hell with him, they put him in a coffin and fuck him like that.”
  71. +2
    7 August 2013 18: 39
    Over the past two years, a strange migration trend has been revealed: from 21 of my classmate, classmate and acquaintance, who have long been successfully settled for permanent residence in the USA, more than half of 12 people unexpectedly returned to Russia.

    But I wouldn’t let people like that in, you can’t make a mess with them anyway, it’s like a potential coward-deserter before a serious battle in the mainland, where the chances of victory are not great - or it’s better to immediately kick them out of the trench, so that at a critical moment they would be their own they didn’t run screaming and didn’t provoke others to panic or shoot! So here too, these are no longer citizens, but “prostitutes”, as soon as they run away again. They are unreliable!
    1. 0
      11 August 2013 13: 16
      Yes it is. After all, they fled to the USA amid cries of “It’s better to be poor in a rich country than to be poor in a poor country!” They sold their 5-room apartments and - wow! (I know what I’m talking about. That’s how my friend ran off to the USA) There, completely delighted that everything was clean and beautiful in the cities, they studied “the country’s foreign language and customs...” and rejoiced at receiving citizenship. They took the oath... Well, what is the price of such an oath? If it gets worse there, back to Russia - “WE are our own!!! Let us in!” What if things get worse in Russia again? What then? Then back to America - “We are our own!!! Let us in! We made a mistake!” These may not be traitors. They are ACCEPTS. And this isn't much better. And their morals are already like this: “It’s nothing personal - it’s business!”
  72. de bouillon
    +7
    7 August 2013 19: 02
    everyone loved to dig into other people's shit...

    don't forget about yourself


    and now let's go here http://www.bea.gov/international/index.htm#trade

    see

    that in July 2013, US exports reached a new all-time high, reaching $191 billion!!

    an increase in exports to the United States was recorded both in the service sector and in industry. At the same time, the export of goods greatly exceeds the provision of services (134 versus 57 billion)

    US imports are being reduced due to an increase in its own oil production, which is displacing imported hydrocarbons from the market. Back in 2008, the United States was forced to purchase $60-70 billion more goods and services abroad than it sold.

    By comparison, exports from China fell to $174 billion in June, and exports from Russia for the entire first half of 2012 amounted to just under $254 billion.

    oil production growth
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/869/iefw887.png

    It is clear that energy resources play a very positive role for the United States. Thanks to low prices.

    By the way, Gazprom will not develop the Shtokman field. Because no one needs it. Qatari gas flows to Europe..

    We think and wonder what we will do in a year? If prices collapse like they did 5 years ago.
    1. volkodav
      +1
      7 August 2013 20: 27
      Why think and scratch - the great Putin said that we need shale... and our Gazprom is the most Gazpromist Gazprom in the world! and our Urya patriots, clapping their hands, shout, “Well, now we’ll show them Kuzka’s mother.” Even in the Soviet army there was a joke that demobilization was inevitable as the collapse of capitalism, answer yourself - where is the Soviet army and where is capitalism now? Honestly an article in the spirit of the international ponarama of the 70-89s
  73. +5
    7 August 2013 20: 07
    The facts are listed quite plausibly (too lazy to check). But if you make a list of dead and dying villages, towns, and towns in Russia, and especially the entire former USSR, it would seem no longer.
    Most of these cities, such as San Diego, are quite viable, but the fact that they made too many promises to pensioners, especially in terms of health insurance - well, these pensioners got screwed. It’s not that they will be left without coverage at all - all normal retirees have Medicare. Of course, not all doctors take it (but almost all hospitals), and 20% from their own pockets, but the absolute majority live with it, which means that trade union members can do the same, otherwise they are used to “according to needs” - it’s not for nothing that grandfather Lenin said: “Trade unions - school of communism."
    And pensions for members of trade unions, in particular for civil servants, are something to be desired. They are entitled to 60% of their salary for the last year. Therefore, a year before retirement, if they have not completely quarreled with their superiors, they are promoted and allowed to work overtime as long as they can stand it. And these hours are paid double. So it wouldn't be surprising if a modest employee with an annual salary of $50000 a year before retirement retires with a salary of $150000. And police officers and firefighters retire at 40-45 years old, and then either rest for the rest of their lives with a stable income and health insurance for their family, or go to work part-time, or organize their own business, and at the same time continue to receive a full pension. This is where they will be hit, because eligibility for Medicare begins at age 62 or being recognized as disabled.
    The management and financiers miscalculated. People began to live longer in retirement, and investments that were supposed to cover pensions and insurance began to bring in less profit. If 20 years ago investing in Treasury bonds gave about 5% per annum, today, depending on the term, from a ridiculous 1.5% for 5 years and up to 3.77% for 30 years.
    Therefore, some cities are going to utter the sacramental phrase: “I forgive everyone to whom I owe.”
    Well, Detroit is a special article, and an explanation of why it is not viable requires a special article, which I have not yet matured to write.
  74. +1
    7 August 2013 21: 05
    I haven’t kept my savings in dollars for 5-7 years now. And finally, it started to work. Would anyone help?
    Hand over your dollars!!! Fuck P.endosia!!!
  75. GEO
    GEO
    -1
    7 August 2013 21: 11
    it’s good when America is bad and I don’t care whether it’s good or bad when I feel good that America is bad
    1. +2
      7 August 2013 21: 19
      Like “let my cow die so long as my neighbor’s house burns down”?
  76. 0
    7 August 2013 21: 23
    Yarosvet (1) RU Today, 14:24 ↑
    Compared to us, they thrive.
    Once again: the consumer basket of the mattress consists of 300 tons of goods and services, the consumer basket in the Russian Federation has 156 names.

    And who will fill this “BASKET”?
    Los Angeles, CA

    The city's budget deficit is $238 million and it has a huge unfunded pension liability and pensions have stopped being paid.

    And there are more than 300 such cities in the USA on the way! So what’s the point of this “basket”, putting a LIST of 3-HUNDRED items in there?
    1. Yarosvet
      0
      8 August 2013 01: 53
      Quote: ia-ai00

      Olya, before drawing conclusions, for a change, take an interest in the volume of LA’s budget, that is, the deficit in %%, and at the same time take a look at this - http://lenta.ru/news/2012/09/10/deficit - don’t forget to convert into cabbage rubles hi
  77. 0
    7 August 2013 21: 58
    Detroit is officially a bankrupt city

    http://www.rg.ru/2012/12/06/detroit-site.html
  78. Peaceful military
    0
    7 August 2013 22: 06
    The “Hegemon” is deflating, which is what needed to be proven in the WASP vs Russian World equation. Although, battles are still ahead, because there are no examples more insidious than WASP, except Carthage. So they seem to be spiritual twins and brothers. “God is not in power, but in truth!” (Reverend Prince Alexander Nevsky.)
  79. +1
    7 August 2013 22: 23
    Well, it’s impossible to say that America is about to collapse yet, after all, despite everything, it is the first economy in the world, but if the United States continues its foreign policy course, they will definitely collapse, but that won’t help us better, because if they crumble completely, they will drag the rest of the world, including us, into the abyss. Whether we like it or not, the USA is today the main country on the planet (I understand your indignation, these thoughts make me sick), the whole world is somehow tailored to the USA as a kind of foundation, and if this foundation begins to collapse, then the superstructures will fly together with her. America now urgently needs the policy of the founding fathers of the United States - isolationism, not to go anywhere further than its own state. borders. And we only need rapid, but at the same time calm development, and as quickly as possible free ourselves from the dependence of the processes taking place in the United States. He himself becomes the center of power, but don’t tear at a frantic rhythm, otherwise, in short...
    1. Peaceful military
      +1
      7 August 2013 22: 43
      And yet, unless, according to some suicidal scenario, the United States uses nuclear weapons towards the Russian Federation, then everything is completely solvable.
      Pax-Romana collapsed without burying humanity, Pax-Britannica, in general, also collapsed, and Pax-Americana is clearly collapsing, as part of the collapsed Pax-Britannica, and I don’t see any fatal problems. -suicide hawks from the Pentagon don’t count. IMHO.
      1. +1
        7 August 2013 23: 10
        I would really like it to be like this...
  80. BotaniQ
    +1
    7 August 2013 23: 08
    Quote: Nagan
    The facts are listed quite plausibly (too lazy to check). But if you make a list of dead and dying villages, towns, and towns in Russia, and especially the entire former USSR, it would seem no longer.


    I agree with Nagan. From myself: I don’t feel sorry for the Americans at all, we need to feel sorry for our own people. The faster they bend, the sooner we will make a left turn. There is nowhere for our red-haired liberals to wait for help and point to “successful” experience. Well, our “middle” class and other “good” people will shake their brains about the future of their Country and the correctness of the choice of leadership. Because it has long been known “that a bad government is chosen by good people who do not go to vote,” and also “that every nation deserves its own ruler.” On my own behalf, I wish you courage to survive the coming era of great changes.
  81. 0
    7 August 2013 23: 38
    The country of illusions and self-deception is collapsing. A society that has eaten itself... The brains are covered with fat. Pissing, the fun is yet to come...
  82. tol
    +1
    7 August 2013 23: 50
    Quote: DAEDALUS
    I agree with you. We shit in the 90’s drank, it’s time for the Americans to slurp too.

    We drank because of the government, do not confuse the government and ordinary ordinary people - they are not financiers or politicians, they are the same as us
    1. rodevaan
      +2
      8 August 2013 04: 26
      Quote: tol
      Quote: DAEDALUS
      I agree with you. We shit in the 90’s drank, it’s time for the Americans to slurp too.

      We drank because of the government, do not confuse the government and ordinary ordinary people - they are not financiers or politicians, they are the same as us


      - No, dear, let me mix it up. I remember well when in the 90s we sat without electricity, heating and without any water. I remember how tiny salaries were delayed for 3-4 months, I remember how people lived in debt, and in the stores, apart from raspberry gmosh sausage and other “goods” from over the hill, there was nothing normal. And I remember well how this whole Westernized bunch, looking at all this that was going on with us, quite rubbed their hands and tried to teach us about life and all kinds of crap. I remember well how in the West, among the stupid “civilizers”, we were not humiliated only by the lazy... We are a great people, to whom that herd of stupid sheep is no match! I remember it all well. And since I had a Soviet upbringing, and I never harbored any illusions about our real enemies, I really wanted us to bring this war, having started so shamefully, to its logical 45.
      And times change - and I will be very glad to see the opposite picture. And everything is moving towards this, albeit slowly but surely. In 41, we also started for peace. But in the end they stuck the Red Flag into the ruins of the enemy capital.

      It’s not good to gloat, of course, but the ever-increasing number of problems in the enemy’s camp makes me happy. Yes, it makes me happy. And the more of them there are, the better for us. And when they sit without electricity and deal with the consequences of the financial machinations of their state departments and corporations, I will be happy to watch how my guest worker nurse from Geyropa or the USA cleans up my shit in my old age, and our new GDP will teach them with a smart look democracy...
  83. +2
    7 August 2013 23: 57
    The following is alarming from the article. The shortage of funds began when a bunch of powers were transferred to the municipal level. In Russia there is now an active transfer of obligations to the level of municipalities, which leads to some thoughts. And the crisis in America is not only a reason for gloating, but also for learning from the mistakes of others. And besides. 20% of those who actually decide everything live the same way they always lived. It’s just that previously there was enough money for the rest of the biomass. but now it’s not enough. So the biomass simply decreases naturally. By the way, the same thing is happening in Russia, but we don’t shout about it anymore.
  84. NOBODY EXCEPT US
    +5
    8 August 2013 00: 20
    I haven’t been to Detroit, and I don’t have classmates in the states, so I can’t say anything about the article, but the fact is that in 5-10 years we won’t have any education if the state idiot passes the law on paid education for free in the 3rd reading there will be only a few subjects, what’s interesting is that physics and chemistry, drawing, etc. will be paid..... come to us in the villages of Vlad region or Ivanovo region, you will see something that will make Detroit seem like paradise to you, the promised land.... You can also look into Kostromskaya......
    1. Tretyakov
      0
      18 August 2013 04: 09
      Well, about education, I completely agree! It was the best in the world - and now it’s a complete g.. If this g.. is also paid, then the only thing left to do is hang yourself! Well, for the example of villages and agricultural development, I fundamentally disagree! There are many examples you can give! Where there are good business executives (and not effective managers), things are going well, and not too bad!
  85. +5
    8 August 2013 00: 34
    1. “Please consider the rumors about my death to be greatly exaggerated!” - this is America to us.
    2. How long has the author been outside the Moscow Ring Road?
    3. While the thick one dries, the thin one will die.
  86. rodevaan
    +2
    8 August 2013 04: 14
    Quote: Yarosvet
    Quote: Tverichanka

    Nina - please tell us about the connection of the Second World War with the distribution of benefits from current annual incomes - very interesting.


    - I’m not Nina, but I’ll answer the opus like this: I won’t pretend to be a thoughtful smartass, throw links like a victim, but I’ll say the obvious without any clever references: While the USSR was at war with all of Geyropastan with the Nazis at its head, S.Sh.P was supplied Lend-Lease for us... for gold, of course. All the tanks, guns, planes, as well as food, clothing and other goods also came to us not for free, but for gold, of course. S.Sh.P also collaborated with the Nazis quite a bit, and supplied them with a lot of things too. Not a single bomb fell on the territory of S.S.P., and their factories worked at full capacity to supply both sides of the world massacre with all their might. To whom there is war, and to whom, as they say, the mother is dear. During the war, Pin-Dostan grew fat and rich as he wanted, and at the end of the war he cut off a fat piece for himself. Their mouse fuss in the Pacific theater of operations with half-dead Japs is pitiful dust compared to what happened on the Eastern Front.
    Further, after the war, the USSR raised the national economy, which had been destroyed to the ground by Western enemies, on its own, without any humanitarian assistance from outside, and also kept on a short leash this entire pack of global parasitism, fattened up in the world wars, overseas, so that they would not come to us again...
    While the overseas hogs grew fat in the war, our people gave their last scrap to the front, left their last strength at the machine, raised the country and even made it a world power. And at the same time, do you think that it was possible to remain rich Pinocchios?
    The entire potential of the country was on the rise and the rapid restoration of the national economy from the invasion of pseudo-civilized subhumans from the West, and for the fact that the country in such a short period of time stood on its feet and became a prosperous state that the whole world knew, feared and respected, the same had to be paid a lot price in the form of giving up many benefits and wealth.
    Here's your answer.
    1. Yarosvet
      0
      8 August 2013 12: 53
      Quote: rodevaan
      And at the same time, do you think that it was possible to remain rich Pinocchios?
      Not to stay, but to become - which is what happened.

      I had to pay a big price in the form of giving up many benefits and wealth.
      This is interesting from which ones? An ordinary citizen of the USSR in the 70-80s generally lived better than an ordinary mattress worker.

      Now I ask again - how is the Second World War connected with the distribution of benefits from CURRENT annual incomes?
      Unclear? Let me rephrase - what is the connection between the Second World War and the distribution of money earned by the country over the past year?
      1. rodevaan
        0
        9 August 2013 02: 30
        Quote: Yarosvet
        Not to stay, but to become - which is what happened
        .
        Why repeat that oil is oil? The meaning doesn't change. You can say - to be.

        This is interesting from which ones? An ordinary citizen of the USSR in the 70-80s generally lived better than an ordinary mattress worker.
        - On what basis are such conclusions?

        Now I ask again - how is the Second World War connected with the distribution of benefits from CURRENT annual incomes?
        Unclear? Let me rephrase - what is the connection between the Second World War and the distribution of money earned by the country over the past year?

        - Only indirect. Because the war has already passed, and we are only reaping its fruits. Unclear? Let me paraphrase - if the USSR had not fought, but profited from the war as S.S.P. did, I am sure that the income of our population, both then and now, would have generally been greater.
        1. Yarosvet
          0
          9 August 2013 14: 17
          Quote: rodevaan
          Why repeat that oil is oil? The meaning doesn't change. You can say - to be.
          No - the meaning is very different: it was formation that took place, not preservation.

          On what basis are such conclusions?
          Based on a comparison of minimum social guarantees and the standard of living of the average citizen of the USA and the USSR.

          Only indirect. Because the war has already passed, and we are only reaping its fruits. Unclear? Let me paraphrase - if the USSR had not fought, but profited from the war as S.S.P. did, I am sure that the income of our population, both then and now, would have generally been greater.
          This is where the substitution of concepts begins.

          If we were talking about the volume of the economy, then yes - one could assume (although this assumption would be extremely doubtful) that the volume of the domestic economy is less than the volume of the US economy as a result of the brake that was the Second World War.
          But we are talking about the well-being of the population, that is, about the DISTRIBUTION OF MONEY EARNED BY THE COUNTRY OVER THE PAST YEAR (it is this distribution that determines the standard of living in comparison with other countries when calculated as a percentage).
          Calculate the minimum wage as a percentage of GDP per capita in the SOCIAL RF and the liberal mattress, and compare them - you will be very surprised.
  87. Backfire
    +2
    8 August 2013 05: 27
    America is a country that is trying to support falling demand. In many respects, all world demand now rests on America. As soon as this becomes impossible, demand will fall. And then... the price of oil flies to 30-40 dollars/barrel and, accordingly, in the same proportion for gas. Do you have any idea what this will lead to in Russia? Where most production facilities, technological cycles and trained personnel no longer exist?

    As soon as the QE-3 program is stopped, perhaps this will be already in September - oil will first dive to 90 dollars per barrel, then see what will happen with a slight lag in the Russian economy.

    As for production, data for July came out:
    So, who produces and exports more?
    $191 billion = US exports
    $174 billion = exports from China

    Data on the structure of exports from the USA:
    134 billion dollars = export of goods (not raw materials, like Russia!)
    $57 billion = services

    By import structure:
    The USA buys raw materials and exports high-tech products.
    Russia exports raw materials, imports everything: from computers to diapers!

    Is the difference clear?

    By the way, the Chinese are massively withdrawing deposits from Chinese banks. What is it for?

    And finally, the advice that “Black” gave here: Gentlemen, have you been outside the Moscow Ring Road recently?
    1. rodevaan
      +1
      9 August 2013 04: 19
      Well, they started, they started singing and moaning again and whining about “how bad everything is EVERYTHING with us” and how everything is crystal and smooth with the Westernoids....

      Enough already, I'm sick of this stupid one-sidedness and stupid stereotypes of the early 90s... Get out of this coma already, otherwise you've been sitting too long...

      By the way, in the pink dream - America, there is also this in abundance:
      - The number of Americans receiving food stamps reached a new record in August 2011, reaching 47, according to the latest data from the Department of Agriculture. In the United States, about 100 million people already live below the food security line; This is a jump from 50 million in 36; 2007 million children are hungry.
      The new measure puts California's poverty rate at 23,5, meaning nearly one in four residents of the nation's richest and most populous state lives in poverty. California, home to Hollywood and Silicon Valley, as well as underground garment factory sweatshops and labor camps for migrant farm workers, has some of the highest levels of income inequality in the United States.

      As of 2010, the number of poor people in the USP was estimated at 46,180 million people, which accounted for 15.1% of the total population. The number of poor people in the United States has increased for the fourth year in a row.

      In Russia in 2011 12,7% of the population, or 18 million people, lived below the poverty line.

      So where is the great and terrible gap between the USP and Russia? If you look at the numbers, the situation with poverty in Pin-Dostan is even worse than in Russia.

      Stop picking on the hunchback and whining like “EVERYTHING IS BAD IN RUSSIA”, I’m tired of this broken record. You feel bad? Do something to make things better, and don’t squeal like “EVERYTHING IS BAD.” Even your modest contribution in your work and social place, as a citizen and as a resident of our country, will benefit both you personally and society!
  88. +1
    8 August 2013 06: 25
    What is happening in this unclean country is still only a breeze. A storm is just around the corner. The point is different: how many of our compatriots have coveted the trinkets of this world and, like zombies, rushed overseas, instead of equipping their country. Nonentities, tumbleweeds. We had difficult times, which were aggravated by the outflow of people. How useful would they be in Russia?
  89. Su-9
    +3
    8 August 2013 06: 37
    In fact, in these strategic issues, as Capital taught, 2 things are important: Labor and Money.
    I know that many people here didn’t study political economy (and before, they didn’t give a degree without it), well, at least read some newfangled textbook (Macro?).
    There is money in the USA - in terms of investment from abroad, the states are in first place, both in absolute and relative terms, and they bring money there from China, and from India, and from us, and even from Venezuela. Labor too - firstly, the demographics are better than ours (the population is growing) and secondly, immigrants are also coming.
    So the main factors for decay are not visible in the states, no matter how much many would like to see them.
    The debt per state citizen is about 53.5 thousand. This is not enough. But at the same time, there are more than 300 tons per citizen. assets. So they have plenty to give from.
    That’s why, by the way, they give them a loan. But Ukraine, for example, is not very...
    For those interested, look here: http://www.usdebtclock.org/
    If anyone is familiar with accounting, then it is clear that everything is not so problematic.
    1. rodevaan
      +1
      9 August 2013 02: 45
      Quote: Su-9
      Labor too - firstly, the demographics are better than ours (the population is growing) and secondly, immigrants are also coming.


      - Well, at the expense of whom is the demographics there better, it’s hard to think about? At the expense of stupid, lazy blacks, who in the 10th generation have forgotten what it means to work, who trade in drugs, and create a huge crime rate? Due to the crowds of ordinary illegal Latinos from Mexico or Middle Eastern Arabs who don’t even know how to read and write? Do you seriously consider these invasions to be an influx of socially active and civilized masses? And the flows are not decreasing, but are only increasing, and will increase, both in S.S.P. and in Geyropastan - because whites are preoccupied with business careers, they are getting old and they don’t give a fuck about children, they live in abundance, and the level in which they live - after all, someone needs to support them? No one will refuse benefits and lower the social standard, no matter what nationalistic speeches are pushed by Western politicians. Migrants will still go there and multiply there exponentially, gradually absorbing whites. The white population, that is, the backbone of the state on which the state rests, is degenerating there in the same way as in gayropastan (look at the demographic reports in S.S.P.), and is actively being replaced by those whom I listed above. This is why the population there is growing. And this is not progress, but regression, and we must call a spade a spade. The brain drain from the former USSR has long lost its peak back in the 90s, when everything was completely bad. All the socially active layers who dreamed of the “pink dream of America” have already dumped there a long time ago and are hanging out there - some as a programmer or a scientist, and some as a floor scrubber (whoever managed to stick in general). And now there are much fewer such worthless fools, and they have already begun to look at Pin-Dostan much more realistically, and not as once in the 80-90s through the prism of stupid, pink and blind infantilism.

      PS - Just PLEASE! There is no need to immediately whine and lament, as in Russia, “EVERYTHING IS BAD,” because I’m tired of this already. We will sort out our problems ourselves. Who doesn’t like it, go to Pin-Dostan, get the pink dream with a pickaxe... We are discussing S.S.P.
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    8 August 2013 07: 10
    Quote: Su-9
    If anyone is familiar with accounting, then it is clear that everything is not so problematic.

    That's right, just one nuance: the debt is state, and the assets are private. And lately they haven't been quite friendly with each other :)