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Russians are not afraid of anyone ("Rzeczpospolita", Poland)

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Interview with Andor Shandor, former head of Czech military intelligence

Rzeczpospolita: General Czeslav Kiszak (Czesław Kiszczak), Minister of the Interior during the era of the Polish People's Republic, once said that “the task of agents of influence is the processing of public opinion or certain circles in a given country. Processing in different directions. There are more complex combinations, for example, creating an atmosphere of hatred around a person or phenomenon. ” Is today's Russia?

Andor Šándor: The Soviet Union has used similar methods and has gained a great deal of experience in this area, which Russia is now turning to. Russians know how to influence public opinion - this is the main occupation of their intelligence. AT stories There were quite a few episodes confirming this; it is enough to look closely at the organizations that in 80s protested against the deployment of American missiles in the UK.

- Have you noticed signs of such activity of Russians in the Czech Republic after the collapse of the USSR?

- Three years ago, the Czech Republic was close to agreeing to host an American radar - an element of the American missile defense system. However, the public reacted to this idea remarkably critical. We have organizations that were called, for example, "Bazam - no" or "League of elders against the radar." Their activity turned out to be very effective: at a certain moment, politicians (first of all, leftists) picked up their slogans, and our country did not agree to construction. The topic of the radar in the Czech Republic was closed by Barack Obama, who said that the United States would abandon its previous plans and transfer the radar to another place. Obama can understand: what is the point of putting so much effort on this project, since it will not pass in our parliament?

- That is, the Russians manipulated Czech public opinion?

- Of course. This is done in the following way: for example, information is disseminated that shale gas is dangerous — if it is extracted, contamination of underground water sources may occur. I am far from underestimating environmental problems, however, if such information is spread in environmental organizations, then the same words will be repeated by the media. After that, everything is simple: the public will know that irreparable harm will be inflicted on nature, water will be poisoned, and the consequences of shale gas extraction are unknown to anyone. As a result, people oppose this gas.

- However, the final decision is made by the government, which is aware of the possibility of such manipulations.

- Now there are no statesmen of the scale of Churchill or Thatcher. There are just politicians who see nothing further than the next election. Most of all they are afraid of losing and therefore do not make unpopular decisions. Hearing from everywhere that shale gas is evil, and the majority of citizens are against it, they say the same thing with fear.

- If, as you say, the mechanism of the formation of influences is so well known, why is it so difficult to fight it?

- Foreign intelligence services conduct their activities in each country. The worst thing you can do when you notice that the political decision-making process is influenced from outside is to accept this state of affairs. We must do everything possible to prevent the Russians (and not only them) from interfering in the actions of our politicians. However, do not succumb to anti-Russian phobias. Only a stupid person multiplies his enemies. It should, on the contrary, increase the number of friends.

- In Russia, we, perhaps, will not find many of them ...

- Russia has its own interests, and it will implement them. We need to look at this country soberly and without unnecessary emotions. I know that this is not easy, especially in the context of Polish-Soviet history. Czech-Soviet history was also not easy, especially after the 1968 year. But such is the reality. It is necessary to see what Russians are doing in Europe, how they realize their geopolitical goals. If we do not notice this, we will make erroneous political decisions and will eventually fail.

“But will it turn into mania and the search for all kinds of conspiracies?”

“The James Bond novels are fun to read, but they have little to do with reality.” And here we are talking about the interests of states and geopolitics. Gazprom is interested in selling gas. What do Russians think when they hear that the Poles have found more gas fields and are going to develop them? Does this fact please them? Of course not, because it hurts their interests. Whether they will succeed in stopping gas exploration is another question, but they will surely do everything possible to prevent you. And they will try to influence public opinion.

- Maybe the EU will help us cope with the problems?

- We are entering the Russian sphere of influence. The fact that the Soviet empire collapsed does not mean that Russia has no interests in this part of the world. In general, the European future largely depends on the development of the situation in two countries: Russia and Turkey.

Let's look at the Americans: they produce shale gas. Prices for it have decreased, so this gas has become possible to export. Russians are watching this. They have their own deposits (still large), but in order to survive, they need to retain buyers. They are pursuing a clever policy, for example, by building gas pipelines that bypass Poland and the Baltic countries — this is a foreign policy tool. This is the tool that Nord Stream serves. The actions of the Russians do not surprise me: if I were in their place, I would do the same.

- In Poland, when the word “ecologist” is concerned, people imagine a young man in mint-colored clothes, with a backpack, dreadlocks on his head, and certainly an empty wallet. Meanwhile, environmental organizations are increasingly occupying beautiful offices in the center of Warsaw, where lawyers and secretaries sit.

- And who pays for it?

- Exactly who?

- Someone pays, but this does not automatically mean that it is Russian intelligence. There may be involved some business structure: coal mining, supplying energy from alternative sources. They are not interested in gas. Do not forget that Poland, independent of the supply of foreign gas, is a disaster for your suppliers.

- For a senior intelligence officer, you are quite open about Russian influences in Central Europe.

- I stopped working in military intelligence, which I headed, in 2002. Since then I am a private person, I work as a business consultant. And when people ask me what I think, I try to answer the truth. I am sure that Russians are ready to use all the tools available to them to achieve their goals. And influence on public opinion is an essential part of intelligence and foreign policy. The Russians began this activity between the First and Second World War and have not left it until now. The only difference is that now we are dealing not with the KGB, but with the FSB, but the name does not matter.

- Where in Poland can there be centers of Russian influence?

- That's a very difficult question. I once publicly stated that the Russians did not support the organization “No to the radar”, and they answered me: “Show the invoice to which the money was transferred”. But the Russians are not fools, they will not do that.

Among the staff of any embassy, ​​not only Russian, there are intelligence officers working under the guise of diplomats or attendants. There are those who officially appear as intelligence officials, so the opposite side knows that Mr. N came from the FSB. This is the first group. But there are also a number of ordinary companies. For example, Polish-Russian or simply Russian, who can easily send people somewhere. At first glance, they are doing business as usual, but at the same time they are engaged in something else, that is, they use their business as a cover. Often journalists work directly or indirectly for intelligence. I hope that this does not surprise you: among the representatives of literally every profession, you can find someone who doesn’t do what it seems.

“Poland and the Czech Republic are blocking Russia from entering Europe.” How do we reflect attempts to restore the Russian sphere of influence in Central Europe?

- Look at what NATO is now: this is not at all the organization that was intended to protect Europe from Russia, and not the one that Poland, the Czech Republic, and Hungary joined. It remains a strong military alliance, I’m a big supporter of the Alliance, but I don’t have 100% certainty that the 5 article of the Washington Treaty will be respected by all its members always and under any conditions.

If you look at the discussions on the topic of European defensive strategy or a joint European security policy, they look smooth only on paper. In practice, there are no such general strategies. What should we rely on today? Countries such as Poland or the Czech Republic need real partners who, for strategic reasons, will choose to defend them for good reason or for other reasons. The ABM radar was a symbol of the American presence on Czech territory, but we missed this opportunity. Half of the Czechs said: “we shall drive the Americans away,” and politicians could not convince them.

You ask whether we are already in the sphere of Russian influence. I think we have already lost or look ahead and lose. This will happen within five years, possibly 20-30 years. Europe has lived 70 peaceful years, but there are no guarantees that the next 70 years will be the same. Unfortunately, many people think that everything is in order, and in the next 1000 there will be no war.

- As Marshal Jozef Pilsudski said, “war is always ahead, never behind.”

- Exactly.

- How important are close relations with the United States for the security of the Czech Republic and Poland?

- This is a key question. Someone could say that this is a blind faith in America, but do not pay attention to it. I know what restrictions Americans have, but this is the country that came to the aid of Europe in two world wars. We must maintain their interest in Europe. Russia would like to oust Americans from our continent, because here it is not afraid of anyone. There is only one country that Russians take with all seriousness, maximum two ...
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  1. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 6 August 2013 16: 57
    32
    Who has what, but among the Poles / Chekhov / Baltic states Putin is still to blame.
    1. waisson
      waisson 6 August 2013 17: 08
      45
      Yes, not Putin but RUSSIAN
      1. waisson
        waisson 6 August 2013 17: 17
        31 th
        shameful vasserman am fool fool fool angry good soldier
        1. ATATA
          ATATA 6 August 2013 17: 35
          18
          Quote: waisson
          shameful vasserman

          Something the meaning of your remark is slipping away from me.
          Do you clarify your point clearer?
          1. The comment was deleted.
        2. waisson
          waisson 6 August 2013 18: 48
          14
          I answer: shame I put a remark in the wrong article - I apologize low sorry, sorry for introducing you to disonformation off topic and in general the article is weak
    2. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 6 August 2013 17: 13
      +1
      Quote: ShadowCat
      Who has what, but among the Poles / Chekhov / Baltic states Putin is still to blame.

      I do not agree, the above countries are to blame for the whole of the USSR, and the Russians should pay. And GDP is the best friend for them, judge for yourself:
      - supports a scam with Katyn, even lays wreaths at the Poles, repents.
      - zero oppression of the Russian-speaking population in the Baltic states could even ban the export of Baltic products to the Russian Federation, since liberalism is not, as it is possible.
      - De-Stalinization supports.
      - reduces the army, destroys military education.
      What else to dream about?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 6 August 2013 17: 38
        39
        Quote: S_mirnov
        And GDP is the best friend for them, judge for yourself:

        Well, Smirnov, my favorite topic is how to live a day and don’t throw a stone in Putin wink
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 6 August 2013 17: 50
          0
          No stones, this is extremism, but I like your site good .
          Just voiced his position, and with reason. hi
          1. fokino1980
            fokino1980 6 August 2013 20: 58
            15
            This is not a position! This pose is rather vile!
            1. alexng
              alexng 6 August 2013 22: 55
              +3
              Quote: fokino1980
              This pose is rather vile!


              And from the modern Kama Sutra.
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 7 August 2013 00: 25
                13
                Quote: alexneg
                And from the modern Kama Sutra.

                I argued at one time, then stopped and I advise you -)))). Well, people are not indifferent to Putin, but he dares not even know about him! That's the tragedy, hence the uncomfortable poses. Everything is fine, we pass by, we hide smiles, so as not to provoke us once again laughing
                1. Bort radist
                  Bort radist 7 August 2013 05: 52
                  +1
                  Quote: aksakal
                  hence the uncomfortable postures.

                  This is inconvenient for you, and some only in such positions receive satisfaction.
                2. eplewke
                  eplewke 7 August 2013 10: 35
                  0
                  some individuals are easy to read. if a goat is told twenty times that he is a cock, he crowes at 21. So you can leave such opinions to yourself .. Would you rather leave Yeltsin instead of Putin? I do not understand you. Thank you should say that such a strong politician has appeared. so that it is necessary to argue and convince faraway people!
                  1. alexng
                    alexng 7 August 2013 10: 43
                    +1
                    It is no longer possible to persuade such people - this is for life, and even more so if a person is a specialist "looking at it".
            2. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 6 August 2013 23: 19
              0
              70 kWh is a social norm. Or here
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI5CFZ82xb8
              This is a nasty pose! And I have a position.
            3. vjhbc
              vjhbc 7 August 2013 00: 47
              -3
              this is your pose of admiration for GDP
              Quote: fokino1980
              This is not a position! This pose is rather vile!
        2. Shadowcat
          Shadowcat 6 August 2013 18: 40
          +3
          And I'm not even going to argue with him. We have a free country and anyone can think about anything and even google what he wants;)
        3. The comment was deleted.
        4. does it
          does it 6 August 2013 22: 41
          +7
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Well, Smirnov, my favorite topic is how to live a day and don’t throw a stone in Putin

          I ALREADY WATERED! Uncle Vova is old and experienced CHEKIST (I put positive emotions in this phrase !!!) if HE, and his entourage, would like that around and their personalities was strict censorship then she would be! And then Mikhail Zadornov would hardly have said in an official:"lilliputin"..
          1. shinobi
            shinobi 7 August 2013 04: 46
            -4
            Back in the USSR, for the release of a couple of people's discontent through the whistle in the political department of the Central Committee of the Communist Party, someone very smart made a visionary move. I’m talking about the same maaaalenky collective who wrote all the political jokes about the top of the country! And the KGB counterintelligence supervised and covered the roof. accordingly, the working methods are the same. hi
        5. kotvov
          kotvov 7 August 2013 09: 49
          -3
          and why throw it at him, he reveals his essence. Every day shows how he worries about people (raising tariffs, introducing a consumption rate, covering criminals)
      2. rolik
        rolik 6 August 2013 18: 39
        27
        Quote: S_mirnov
        - supports a scam with Katyn, even lays wreaths at the Poles, repents.
        - zero oppression of the Russian-speaking population in the Baltic states could even ban the export of Baltic products to the Russian Federation, since liberalism is not, as it is possible.
        - De-Stalinization supports.
        - reduces the army, destroys military education.

        I’ll try to argue a little. But, since the followers of the GREAT ZYU are unshakable and firm in their positions, it comes to understanding that you are writing against the wind))))))))))
        The responsibility of the communist regime for the crime in Katyn was recognized only in 1990 by USSR President Mikhail Gorbachev.
        By visiting Katyn, Russian Prime Minister Putin distanced himself from his usually sympathetic statements about Stalin's rule, The Financial Times believes, and yet he did not apologize. The newspaper considers Putin's call to avoid "dividing peoples into right and wrong" as a hairpin about Russophobia in Poland. "This is perhaps a little strange on the part of a leader who encourages nationalist nostalgia for Stalin and takes off the rise of historical revisionism in Russia, including with regard to Katyn," the editorial says. "In 1993, Vice President Alexander Rutskoi asked for forgiveness from the relatives of the victims. If such a request for forgiveness came from Vladimir Putin, a former KGB officer - the successor to the NKVD, the Poles would greatly appreciate it," Viatto said. If Gorbachev and Yeltsin gave Russian and Polish investigative bodies the opportunity to work with archives and exhume the victims of Katyn, then recently Moscow has taken a step back, reclassifying these murders as "common crimes." Another sign of the campaign unfolding in the country is the creation of a commission to counter attempts to falsify history to the detriment of Russia's interests, Viatto believes. Poland expects Dmitry Medvedev to confirm Putin's position, Russia will apologize, pay compensation to the families of the victims, change the name of the commission, removing the words "to the detriment of Russia's interests." But the most important step would be to declassify 116 volumes of archives, qualify the Katyn murders as "war crimes" or even "crimes against humanity," and prevent a new wave of negationism, the historian believes.
        But from Dimuli this could be expected.
        And the very main topic of all claims is repent and give dough in compensation. Poles - what to take from them. As they were burping monkeys, so they stayed.
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 6 August 2013 18: 55
          12
          First of all, it’s nice that the other three arguments you didn’t object! (with a Georgian accent, waving the phone) Joke smile
          In brief, I do not separate DAM from GDP as an independent political figure (one berry field).
          Thirdly, I consider the position of GDP in Katynsky (not ours not yours) for the president of the Russian Federation!
          Here I fully support the opinion of V.I., Ilyukhin
          "The Katyn tragedy is a vivid confirmation of this. The Poles would never have imposed their version so boldly - the shooting of Polish officers by the Soviets, if they had not found assistants and lawyers inside our country. Under Gorbachev, under Yeltsin and after his rule, Russia turned out to be too weakened, in front of everyone repenting even of what she did not commit. Therefore, in the West they decided that we could make claims for damages even in a million US dollars for each shot Pole (and there were more than twenty thousand of them). NATO, Poland was “uncomfortable.” But Russia can, there they have already got used to revising history in recent years. "
          http://katyn.editboard.com/t515-topic
          Covering the falsifiers of the Katyn case, the GDP causes direct harm to the Russian Federation.
          1. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 6 August 2013 19: 21
            +2
            Quote: S_mirnov

            Covering the falsifiers of the Katyn case, the GDP causes direct harm to the Russian Federation.



            Well, he (GDP) took revenge and calmed down, or do you think planes with presidents screaming to the whole world about the tragedy of Katyn just fall? He is just an old special officer and his methods are different.
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 6 August 2013 22: 19
              +2
              It would be cool if it really is. But honestly, I doubt it.
        2. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 6 August 2013 18: 59
          +1
          Just an interesting (in my opinion) video, not a topic. Fursov about Stalin and his opponents.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCVDAXv30s
          ps No need to evaluate. I do not chase the pluses.
          1. Blackgrifon
            Blackgrifon 6 August 2013 22: 31
            +3
            Comrade, S_mirnov! Write a separate article and we will read, discuss and argue it. But now the topic is different - so let's talk about it :)
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 7 August 2013 13: 08
              -2
              Quote: Blackgrifon
              Ovaryshch, S_mirnov! Write a separate article

              I repeat the second time, well, I don’t have time to write articles. To write a good article, it’s necessary to shovel a lot of things, but I don’t want to write garbage. And there’s no time for bullshit either.
      3. fokino1980
        fokino1980 6 August 2013 20: 56
        +2
        Mr. S_mirnov especially for you and about you like from F.M. Dostoevsky http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oFcNosH9ls watch until the end! If you can!!!
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 6 August 2013 22: 33
          +7
          Such a good video is relevant now. Only now we have some kind of ugly liberalism.
          The interests of the individual above the social - this is (oligarchs, uneven distribution of wealth). - liberalism
          But the rule of law and the equality of all before the law is not liberalism.
          A market economy, transparent borders - liberalism again.
          In short, it is necessary to sweep away all the filthy broom and liberals and oligarchs and corrupt officials. To cleanse the state of this abomination.
          Return to socialism!
          But those who grabbed at the time of privatization themselves will not leave, and foreign capital also has a lot of things in the Russian Federation, I'm afraid it will not do without intervention. The choice is not rich ...
      4. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon 6 August 2013 22: 29
        +4
        Quote: S_mirnov
        - supports a scam with Katyn, even lays wreaths at the Poles, repents.


        This was recognized in 91 for the sake of "American friends" and the triumph of "democracy." Although the story is very muddy and there are many German traces in it. But we must not forget that the first death camps (aimed precisely at the destruction of prisoners) were invented by the Poles and used against Soviet prisoners.
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 6 August 2013 22: 36
          +6
          Quote: Blackgrifon
          But we must not forget that the first death camps (aimed specifically at the destruction of prisoners) were invented by the Poles and used against Soviet prisoners.

          Very accurate remark! So why are we not going to roll back the lawsuit?
        2. luka095
          luka095 7 August 2013 01: 04
          +3
          The primacy in creating camps belongs to the British. At the beginning of the 20th century, during the Boer War.
      5. eplewke
        eplewke 7 August 2013 10: 33
        0
        if you look for evil - it will always be found in any actions of even the most white and fluffy politician. And in order to find good and benefit in actions, it’s just to love your country ...
      6. valokordin
        valokordin 7 August 2013 11: 54
        +2
        Quote: S_mirnov
        Quote: ShadowCat
        Who has what, but among the Poles / Chekhov / Baltic states Putin is still to blame.

        I do not agree, the above countries are to blame for the whole of the USSR, and the Russians should pay. And GDP is the best friend for them, judge for yourself:
        - supports a scam with Katyn, even lays wreaths at the Poles, repents.
        - zero oppression of the Russian-speaking population in the Baltic states could even ban the export of Baltic products to the Russian Federation, since liberalism is not, as it is possible.
        - De-Stalinization supports.
        - reduces the army, destroys military education.
        What else to dream about?

        Yes, GDP is the best friend of the European oligarchy as well as Russian.
    3. Siberian German
      Siberian German 6 August 2013 18: 44
      +3
      Maybe so, but I liked it - a sober analysis and he does not yell that the Russians are influencing - he acknowledges this fact and leaves us the right to do so
      1. 755962
        755962 6 August 2013 20: 15
        +3
        There is only one country that Russians take with all seriousness, a maximum of two ..


        recourse ....

    4. Constantine
      Constantine 6 August 2013 21: 45
      +8
      Quote: ShadowCat
      Who has what, but among the Poles / Chekhov / Baltic states Putin is still to blame.


      However, despite Russophobia, the former intelligence officer treat Russia with respect that there is a competent move. Fortunately, there are not many who can soberly assess the capabilities of an opponent. This is, in fact, to us smile
    5. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 6 August 2013 22: 26
      +1
      Quote: ShadowCat
      Who has what, but among the Poles / Chekhov / Baltic states Putin is still to blame.


      Nah - the Czechs are more offended because of Prague, but there is no Russophobia there, as in Poland or the Baltic states. Here are the last ones - YES - the former dream of the borders of 1772 (at least), and the latter dream of a complex (they were able to build their state only in the XNUMXth century (Lithuania is an exception)).
    6. Zhenya
      Zhenya 6 August 2013 22: 30
      +3
      I personally was very interested to read the article, the more weight we have, the louder whine countries, a good sign.
    7. Aryan
      Aryan 7 August 2013 01: 10
      0
      in the old days, when the enemy came to the lands of the Slavs,
      then the strongest warrior came forward to meet the enemy and said so ...
      and vrazhin immediately left without fighting
      it’s a pity that modern historians have not yet completely deciphered all those tech messages request
  2. Vadivak
    Vadivak 6 August 2013 16: 57
    43
    Russians are not afraid of anyone ("Rzeczpospolita", Poland)


    We are afraid. Decisions of own government

    Yesterday at 10:10, the former head of the Ministry of Defense, Anatoly Serdyukov, was left the right to use a Mercedes official car equipped with special signals. the military department noted that Serdyukov, as a former permanent member of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, still retains the status of a person who is entitled to state protection. And according to the law, “transport services for protected persons are organized by state security bodies as part of the exercise of their powers”,


    1. waisson
      waisson 6 August 2013 17: 14
      +2
      I READ A SHADOW YES AND ONLY, and why I used to say there’s nothing to be there. Paw. Paw warms up.
      1. ATATA
        ATATA 6 August 2013 17: 40
        +1
        Quote: waisson
        I READ A SHADOW YES AND ONLY, and why I used to say nothing, there won’t be Paw Paw warms

        What is shame on, then a yeshkin cat?
        What kind of statement of thought ?!
        Explain!
    2. Lech from ZATULINKI
      Lech from ZATULINKI 6 August 2013 17: 36
      +7
      THIS Mr MEDVEDEV covers his protege.
      He recently crucified about his merits in 2008.
      And I have a video from soldiers - peacekeepers - seven corpses of our soldiers, and HEAD OF MEDVEDEV still thinks what to do.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 7 August 2013 04: 05
        +1
        Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
        THIS Mr MEDVEDEV covers his protege.

        Serdyukov put on the post of Minister of Defense PUTIN!
    3. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 6 August 2013 17: 38
      +3
      "... left the right to use a Mercedes official car equipped with special signals"
      ... and tires regularly pumped with hydrogen. wassat
      1. Danash I
        Danash I 6 August 2013 19: 05
        +1
        ... and put something on the bus and allow it to warm up ... But, nevertheless, in this case, what did this service do wrong?
    4. ATATA
      ATATA 6 August 2013 17: 38
      +6
      Quote: Vadivak
      Serdyukov, as a former permanent member of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, still retains the status of a person who is entitled to state protection.

      Of course, while he is free, you need to protect!
      He is a bearer of state secrets. Well, imagine tomorrow, somewhere in the gateway to him a knife under his throat and like, let’s lay out the TTX, some kind of miracle, weapons of arms ?!
      Such nizya.
      1. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 6 August 2013 17: 56
        -2
        Quote: ATATA
        Well, imagine tomorrow, somewhere in the gateway to him a knife under his throat and like, let’s lay out the TTX, some kind of miracle, weapons of arms ?!

        A stool so cringed:
        This is Gorbachev ......
        So be afraid of mattress covers, or the humpbacked cock will come to rebuild you ....
        1. ATATA
          ATATA 6 August 2013 18: 05
          +2
          Quote: ziqzaq
          A stool so cringed:

          It seems to me that you simply do not understand what you are writing.
          1. ziqzaq
            ziqzaq 6 August 2013 21: 50
            +1
            Quote: ATATA
            It seems to me that you simply do not understand what you are writing.

            I wanted to express the idea that the most destructive weapon is betrayal, and Gorbachev is an example of this. Perhaps he expressed himself clumsily and was not understood ... Or, perhaps you consider Mikhail Sergeyevich as a liberator .....
            PS
            For all fans of the hunchback, a portion of brain-fluidizing chatter:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VMkt5dJLOG8
      2. sasha.28blaga
        sasha.28blaga 7 August 2013 03: 23
        +1
        But how then to put him in jail? There he is not only a knife and not only put to the throat.
    5. Russ69
      Russ69 6 August 2013 19: 21
      +5
      Quote: Vadivak
      Yesterday at 10:10, the former head of the Ministry of Defense, Anatoly Serdyukov, was left the right to use a Mercedes official car equipped with special signals. the military department noted that Serdyukov, as a former permanent member of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, still retains the status of a person who is entitled to state protection. And according to the law, “transport services for protected persons are organized by state security bodies as part of the exercise of their powers”,

      In general, that is, the posts that security is supposed to rely on after the resignation. In view of the fact that they are a carrier of secrets. and so in almost all countries. I also do not like stools and I wish him a place on the bunk, but before shouting the guard, maybe it’s worth a little thought.
    6. biglow
      biglow 6 August 2013 19: 27
      +2
      Quote: Vadivak
      Russians are not afraid of anyone ("Rzeczpospolita", Poland)


      We are afraid. Decisions of own government

      Yesterday at 10:10, the former head of the Ministry of Defense, Anatoly Serdyukov, was left the right to use a Mercedes official car equipped with special signals. the military department noted that Serdyukov, as a former permanent member of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, still retains the status of a person who is entitled to state protection. And according to the law, “transport services for protected persons are organized by state security bodies as part of the exercise of their powers”,

      And what's wrong with that. But this car is under full control, probably stuffed with all sorts of bugs and sensors on the canyons., And Serdyukov has no other cars. So Comrade Serdyukov lives in a golden cage. The lady most likely also has ravines everywhere laughing
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 6 August 2013 20: 10
        +3
        We already had one Pasha Mercedes, that's enough)
    7. Ulysses
      Ulysses 6 August 2013 20: 21
      +3
      Security, or honorary escort?
      Such persons, and even under the article, are usually not allowed out of sight.
  3. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 6 August 2013 17: 00
    +7
    "Russia has its own interests, and it will implement them. We need to look at this country soberly and without unnecessary emotions."

    Well, well done, well done, but not everyone is smart enough to do this.
  4. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 6 August 2013 17: 01
    12
    An interview was given by an ardent Russophobe.
    The mention of PILSUDSKY (the enemy of all Russian) confirms this.
    As for the topic of the article, it is partially true, however, there are moments that try not to emphasize in this article.
    For example, how dangerous is shale gas production and what price are CZECH REPUBLIC and POLAND ready to pay in order not to let RUSSIA into EUROPE.
    1. wellins
      wellins 6 August 2013 18: 11
      +1
      The correspondent mentioned Pilsudski
  5. Alez
    Alez 6 August 2013 17: 02
    14
    Years go by, and in Poland under each bush are Kremlin agents. It is necessary to be treated for paranoia by inhaling shale gas. If it does not help, drink the capital, you see, let it go. Although they drink vodka zapadlo, pedikoobraznyh need to support.
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 6 August 2013 17: 43
      +1
      Worthy Last McCarthy
    2. sasha.28blaga
      sasha.28blaga 7 August 2013 03: 28
      +1
      The Poles Russophobia, paranoia is incurable. They have it constantly in the blood to prove that they are not Russians and that they are better.
  6. a52333
    a52333 6 August 2013 17: 05
    +5
    Nevertheless, it’s nice to read the article!
  7. Manager
    Manager 6 August 2013 17: 07
    12
    I do not know who the Russians are .... it's probably some kind of rabble. I am Russian and I know only the Russian people. I am disgusted by the word coined by the drunk. I urge everyone on the site to pay attention to this too. We have already taken the nationality in the passport. Do not let this happen in our minds.
    The author of the article is a minus.
    1. experienced
      experienced 6 August 2013 17: 09
      +1
      Quote: Manager
      I do not know who the Russians are .... it's probably some kind of rabble

      I am a Russian and if you are ok in my face you will say that I am a rabble ... winked
      1. Manager
        Manager 6 August 2013 17: 12
        -5
        if you do not have a nationality, then yes you are rabble. For the Russian is not a nationality.
        this Russian who does not have a nationality, thumps and shit wanted to everything that happens in the country. If you relate to these and try to protect their interests, then you are the same rabble as they are.
        1. sasha.28blaga
          sasha.28blaga 7 August 2013 03: 50
          0
          I think that when the Russians speak, they mean the people as a whole living in this territory, when they speak Russian, Dagestanets, Chechens, they mean nationality. But Russia is a multinational country and talking about the people as a whole as about Russians is the height of indecency. Moreover, not all politicians, businessmen and other authorities who have and are making politics, both internal and external Russians. The word Russians hurt me the same thing, but there was a time when most of the local website users were just Soviet citizens with a nationality in their passport. Do not forget that you are Russian and do not let your children forget about it and that will be enough. We are not Americans.
          1. gazovic
            gazovic 7 August 2013 05: 30
            +3
            Good afternoon, dear! I will cite an excerpt from the book "Myths about Russia". It was at a reception at the Emperor Alexander I, the Emperor approached the newly appointed British ambassador and asked him a question: How does he like the reception? The ambassador replied that he really liked it, he just didn’t understand why the highly placed Russian officials present here had such a different appearance and accent. The emperor replied that there are many nationalities in Russia, for example, that Georgian prince, that Pole, and that Dagestani, there are Lithuanians, Germans, and there are many others. The ambassador asked, bewildered, who is Russian here? The emperor replied, "THERE ARE ALL THEY TAKEN TOGETHER - RUSSIAN" Russia has always been and I hope will always be a huge melting pot in which each nation enriches other nations living nearby and takes from others a lot of useful things for itself not to its own detriment.
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 6 August 2013 17: 19
      20
      Quote: Manager
      I do not know who the Russians are .... it's probably some kind of rabble. I am Russian and I know only the Russian people.

      Not all Russians are Russians
      not all Russians are Russians.
      1. Manager
        Manager 6 August 2013 17: 22
        +2
        Quote: Setrac
        Not all Russians are Russians
        not all Russians are Russians


        For me, Russians are those who in Turkey and so thumps and dishonors the country, these are those who defile our history. The one who did not care about nationality. One who offends our religion. Anyone who is happy to emigrate to any country where he seems warmer. These are those who thump in the villages so that they sell their children! Russian is not a nationality but a character trait!
        We all live in Russia. And Russian and other peoples. But it is unnecessary to call everyone Russians.
        1. Uncle Serozha
          Uncle Serozha 6 August 2013 17: 39
          10
          Quote: Manager
          For me, Russians are those who in Turkey and so thumps and dishonors the country, these are those who defile our history.

          But how then do you propose calling citizens of the Russian Federation who are not Russian? I have a friend, he is a Mordvin. And at the same time - a patriot of Russia. He is not Russian, but he is Russian.
          The fact that this word was invented by Yeltsin is not true. It existed long before him. And if he used it, it still does not make the word bad. He used the word "mom" too. So now - don't we say that?
          1. Manager
            Manager 6 August 2013 17: 43
            +6
            Quote: Uncle Seryozha
            But how then do you propose calling citizens of the Russian Federation who are not Russian?

            Call it what you like. Why, for example, in Ukraine there is no problem with this. There are all Ukrainians. There are no Ukrainians, etc. Similarly, in Belarus there are no Belarusians there, I do not know. But is this a direct problem in Russia? Do not smack nonsense and turn on the brain please.
            1. Uncle Serozha
              Uncle Serozha 6 August 2013 17: 49
              +6
              Quote: Manager
              Call it what you like.

              Fine. So I call them Russians. Russians are citizens of the Russian Federation. Whether they are Bashkirs, Tatars, or Mordvinians by nationality.
              Quote: Manager
              Why, for example, in Ukraine there is no problem with this. There are all Ukrainians.

              This is not true. There are all citizens of Ukraine, but not all Ukrainians. Crimean Tatars, for example, are citizens of Ukraine, but not Ukrainians (although this word may be mistakenly used).
              When you say "Russians" you refer only to of the population of the Russian Federation. What can be offensive to the other part.
              1. Manager
                Manager 6 August 2013 17: 52
                +2
                Quote: Uncle Seryozha

                This is not true. There are all citizens of Ukraine, but not all Ukrainians. Crimean Tatars, for example, are citizens of Ukraine, but not Ukrainians (although this word may be mistakenly used).
                When you say "Russians" you are referring only to a part of the population of the Russian Federation. Which could be offensive to the other part.

                You yourself have just answered your question! Bravo! Why not call it the same. Russian-Tatars, Russian-Jews, Russian-Bashkirs, etc.
                See how simple it really is!
                1. Uncle Serozha
                  Uncle Serozha 6 August 2013 17: 56
                  +6
                  Quote: Manager
                  You yourself have just answered your question! Bravo! Why not call it the same. Russian-Tatars, Russian-Jews, Russian-Bashkirs, etc.
                  See how simple it really is!

                  I did NOT write that the citizens of Ukraine are Ukrainian Tatars. Do not distort my words. I wrote that they are - citizens of Ukraine. And the Bashkirs, Tatars and Kalmyks are Russian citizens. I.e Russians. The fact that you do not like this word personally is not a problem for the rest.
                  But "Russian-Tatars, Russian-Jews, Russian-Bashkirs, etc." is nonsense. A person cannot have two nationalities at the same time.
                  1. Manager
                    Manager 6 August 2013 17: 58
                    +4
                    Quote: Uncle Seryozha

                    I did NOT write that the citizens of Ukraine are Ukrainian Tatars. Do not distort my words. I wrote that they are citizens of Ukraine. And the Bashkirs, Tatars and Kalmyks are Russian citizens. That is, the Russians. The fact that you do not like this word personally is not a problem for the rest.
                    But "Russian-Tatars, Russian-Jews, Russian-Bashkirs, etc." is nonsense. A person cannot have two nationalities at the same time.


                    Yes Lord, call everyone what you want, I don’t care. Only Russians call Russians, not Russians.
                    1. Uncle Serozha
                      Uncle Serozha 6 August 2013 18: 03
                      +5
                      Quote: Manager
                      Yes Lord, call everyone what you want, I don’t care. Only Russians call Russians, not Russians.

                      And I never did. If we talk about Russians, then I say “Russians”. But speaking about everything the people of Russia are "Russians". Since they are not all Russian. What I'm talking about.
                      1. Boa kaa
                        Boa kaa 6 August 2013 23: 39
                        +1
                        Quote: Uncle Seryozha
                        But if we talk about all the people of Russia, then the "Russians"

                        Good Lord! Yes, call them "citizens of Russia" and calm down. Just don't touch the Russians! It is - after all - a state forming a nation, to which, for its hard work, the Georgian Koba at a reception on the occasion of the Victory of the Soviet people in the Great Patriotic War expressed special gratitude and raised a toast personally.
                        "Learn from the greats, maybe something worthwhile will come out of you" ... (c)
                  2. Mikhail m
                    Mikhail m 6 August 2013 21: 02
                    +1
                    African American.
              2. FREGATENKAPITAN
                FREGATENKAPITAN 6 August 2013 18: 27
                12
                ... Yeah ... in the days of the USSR I don’t remember what they would call someone the Allies or sesserics ............WE ARE RUSSIANS , and Mordovians and Tatars ... when we represent the country! And we are Mordovians, Chuvashs, Kalmyks when we honor the traditions of our people, we celebrate national holidays (Easter, Sabantuy .......), etc. ................. ........ What did you attack the person? He is right!
                1. Vladimirets
                  Vladimirets 6 August 2013 18: 42
                  +6
                  Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
                  .in Soviet times, I don’t remember what would be called allies or seseriks

                  All were Soviet, if anything. wink
                  1. Ivan.
                    Ivan. 6 August 2013 19: 06
                    +4
                    Quote: Vladimirets
                    All were Soviet, if something

                    Firstly, by force, secondly only within the country, thirdly outside we were all called Russians.
                  2. Anatolich
                    Anatolich 6 August 2013 21: 50
                    -2
                    Citizens of the Soviet Union
            2. alex13-61
              alex13-61 6 August 2013 18: 03
              +7
              Quote: Manager
              Why, for example, in Ukraine there is no problem with this.

              This is just some kind of nonsense, Dear ... I am a Russian, living in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea - Ukrainian ????
              Quote: Manager
              .There is all Ukrainian
              1. Uncle Serozha
                Uncle Serozha 6 August 2013 18: 10
                +6
                Quote: alex13-61
                This is just some kind of nonsense, Dear ... I am a Russian, living in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea - Ukrainian ????

                +1. The people of Ukraine are also multinational, like the people of Russia. There are Greeks, Moldavians, Tatars, and Russians. In the west, there is generally a mess. Up to Hungarians and Poles. To call them all together "Ukrainians" is wrong. But they are all citizens of Ukraine
                1. Ivan.
                  Ivan. 6 August 2013 18: 38
                  0
                  Quote: Uncle Seryozha
                  To call them all together "Ukrainians" is wrong. But they are all citizens of Ukraine

                  Citizens of Russia live right in Russia and it’s also wrong to call them all in a crowd Russians.
                2. Corsair5912
                  Corsair5912 6 August 2013 19: 26
                  0
                  Quote: Uncle Seryozha + 1. The people of Ukraine are also multinational, like the people of Russia. There are Greeks, Moldavians, Tatars, and Russians. In the west, there is generally a mess. Up to Hungarians and Poles. To call them all together "Ukrainians" is wrong. But they are all citizens of Ukraine [/ quote

                  Russia, Ukraine, Belarus are mono-ethnic states, in them more than 2/3 of the population have one nationality - Russian.
                  It should not be confused with the USSR, which to some extent was a multinational state, in terms of administrative structure.
              2. rolik
                rolik 6 August 2013 18: 45
                +3
                Quote: alex13-61
                This is just some kind of nonsense, Dear ... I am a Russian, living in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea - Ukrainian ????

                No, in this case - you are a RESIDENT and CITIZEN of Ukraine (unless of course you have a Ukrainian passport). if he is not, just a resident of Ukraine. And by nationality - Russian.
          2. hrych
            hrych 6 August 2013 18: 16
            16
            Do not argue, Yeltsin is already in hell.
            1. sergey72
              sergey72 6 August 2013 18: 46
              +9
              Quote: hrych
              Do not argue, Yeltsin is already in hell.
              So that he got a frying pan with a turbo!
              1. Dovmont
                Dovmont 6 August 2013 22: 59
                +3
                This makes us no easier! Great power is gone!
        2. ATATA
          ATATA 6 August 2013 17: 45
          -2
          Quote: Manager

          And who is Manager?
          You (say YOU do not turn your tongue), in general insolent.
          The word was invented by the Russians, not Eltzman, but under Peter 1 (the tsar used it).
          Snack and sleep.
          1. Manager
            Manager 6 August 2013 17: 50
            -6
            Quote: ATATA
            Snack and sleep.

            Go another 300 grams of machany Russian ... with this attitude of the USSR profuca. Let's continue to support the collapse of Russia.
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              1. Manager
                Manager 6 August 2013 17: 54
                +7
                Quote: seasoned
                Go away judah

                Judah is a Jew. But I am Russian. And no matter how much you want it, I’m proud of it. And I will always insist that the state-forming people in Russia are Russians.
                1. experienced
                  experienced 6 August 2013 17: 58
                  -5
                  Quote: Manager
                  Judah is a Jew. But I am Russian. And no matter how much you want it, I’m proud of it. And I will always insist that the state-forming people in Russia are Russians.

                  I remember your cry for the spaceport .... But because for me you are a handshake negative
                  1. Manager
                    Manager 6 August 2013 18: 00
                    0
                    Quote: seasoned
                    I remember your cry for the spaceport .... But because for me you are a handshake


                    OK! Everything is clear what has become of the site. "Respect" you Russians.
                  2. Manager
                    Manager 6 August 2013 18: 01
                    -1
                    Quote: seasoned
                    I remember your cry for the spaceport .... But because for me you are a handshake


                    I ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO DELETE MY PROFILE.
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                      2. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 6 August 2013 18: 17
                        13
                        And I do not care who and what he thinks, I'm not Russian - I live in RUSSIAN RUSSIA.
                      3. ATATA
                        ATATA 6 August 2013 18: 22
                        +4
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        And I do not care who and what he thinks, I'm not Russian - I live in RUSSIAN RUSSIA.

                        Well, okay...
                        And the Russians are citizens of the 2nd grade?
                        Or they should be told that I’m supposed to be Tatar, but I live in Russia.
                        Do you know that Gumilev (do you know who this is?) Considers Tatars to be the Russian partner for the people?
                        And what is offensive in the word Russian, Peter 1 used it.
                      4. ATATA
                        ATATA 6 August 2013 18: 31
                        +1

                        And I do not care who and what thinks

                        Great answer for the moderator.
                        That's how you respect those who disagree with you.
                        I’ll take it into account.
                        Equal to Moderators !!!!
                        But besides the minus, will Comrade Marshal the administrator have more weighty arguments?
                      5. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 6 August 2013 19: 01
                        +4
                        Quote: ATATA
                        That's how you respect those who disagree with you.

                        Do not pose the question correctly, I have my own self and I will not adapt to someone else’s opinion.
                        Quote: ATATA
                        But besides the minus, will Comrade Marshal the administrator have more weighty arguments?

                        Miss, minus you did not set wink
                      6. ATATA
                        ATATA 6 August 2013 19: 10
                        +6
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Miss, minus you did not set

                        Well, I'm not a moderator, I can’t check.
                        I believe in the word.
                        But I did not understand who to call myself someone who is not Russian, but lives in Russia and considers himself her patriot?
                        Or Russians to the right, not Russians to the left?
                      7. psv910
                        psv910 6 August 2013 20: 33
                        12
                        Quote: ATATA
                        But I didn’t understand who to call myself someone who is not Russian,


                        For example, I am not Russian by origin. Among my ancestors - Tatars (baptized), Mari, Poles, Hungarians and God knows who else.
                        But I am more RUSSIAN than some of the ethnic Russians. And I do not want to be called a Russian. Because the drunk Borya brought so much negativity into this word that he would not be forgotten soon.
                        You come to Geyrope - there we are all Russians. And Tatars, Jews and Chechens - all without exception. "Russo-tourist" in one word. It doesn't matter who is behaving there, this is another matter. And there it is normal, no one is indignant why they call him Russian.
                        But if we still can not have a different name than to be called a Russian, then let's call the Poles Polish, the French - the French, the Swedes - the Swedes. But in the same Sweden already the percentage of migrants is equal to the indigenous population, but they are all called Swedes.
                        France national football team. Who is in the lineup? Half of the players are black. Who are they? That's right - the French. Français in theirs, französisch in German. So we all who are citizens of Russia are Russians. Do you want it or not.
                      8. Ivan.
                        Ivan. 6 August 2013 20: 48
                        +3
                        Quote: psv910
                        You come to Geyrope - there we are all Russians. And Tatars, Jews and Chechens - all without exception. "Russo-tourist" in one word. And there it is normal, no one is outraged, why they call him Russian.

                        That the "lapotnik" is forbidden is easy for a gay European. A German who moved to Germany is still Russian, a Bulgarian to Bulgaria is still Russian, etc.
                      9. Corsair
                        Corsair 6 August 2013 23: 39
                        0
                        Quote: psv910
                        . And I do not want to be called a Russian. Because the drunk Borya brought so much negativity into this word that he would not be forgotten soon.

                        How many people - so many opinions ...
                    2. shpuntik
                      shpuntik 6 August 2013 23: 43
                      +4
                      Colonel-General
                      ATATA SU Today, 19:10 ↑
                      But I did not understand who to call myself someone who is not Russian, but lives in Russia and considers himself her patriot?
                      Or Russians to the right, not Russians to the left?

                      I agree with the psv910 RU Today, 20:33 ↑.
                      I honestly do not understand the reason for the dispute and the basis for the upset. If a Russian does not want to call himself a Russian, this does not mean that you are deprived of the right to call himself a Tatar. On the contrary, the Russians are deprived of the right to call themselves Russian, they called them "Russian", and Pushkin was also dragged here. Alexander Sergeevich has such rhymes that you will not find such a thing.
                      If abroad you say that you are Russian, in the sense of Russia, what is wrong with that?
                      Russian for some time now, this is more than nationality, it is a state of mind. These are Christian values, the search and protection of the truth, that’s what Russian is.
                      Compare the description of Sich at Gogol, the smartest person was:
                      It seemed extremely strange to Ostap and Andria that with them the death of the people came to Sich, and if only someone would ask: where are these people from, who are they and what is their name. They came here, as if returning to their own house, from which they had left only an hour before. The one who came appeared only to the koshev; who used to say:
                      - Hello! What do you believe in Christ?
                      - I believe! - answered come.
                      - And you believe in the holy trinity?
                      - I believe!
                      - And go to church?
                      - I go!
                      - Well, cross!
                      The one who came was baptized.
                      “Well, well,” replied Koseva, “go to that one, and you know the hen.”
                      This ended the whole ceremony.
                    3. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 7 August 2013 03: 44
                      +1
                      Quote: ATATA
                      But I did not understand who to call myself someone who is not Russian, but lives in Russia

                      And you know, many of them call themselves Russian. This is often heard; here is something that someone would say in a conversation he called a Russian I did not hear.
                      Quote: ATATA
                      Or Russians to the right, not Russians to the left?

                      You want to divide me by nationality about this, but whatever our government decides, each of us has a nationality and always has!
                    4. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 7 August 2013 04: 09
                      +2
                      Quote: ATATA
                      I believe in the word.

                      In that koment did not set, put higher in koment
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      I join the request of Manager.
                      You do not want to delete yourself?
              2. Ivan.
                Ivan. 6 August 2013 18: 51
                +9
                Russians do not exist, there are citizens of the Russian Federation, if you show me a specific living Russian, then we will break spears. The Russian is a fiction - "undermining" under the Russian mentality, an embedded provocation. If a Tatar who no one bothers to be a Tatar and be Russian, they say, it insults his national identity, then he is superfluous in Russia. According to my observations, everyone who speaks Russian is Russian, except for the fifth column with homosexuals.
              3. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 6 August 2013 19: 23
                -2
                Quote: Ivan.
                If the Tatar, whom no one bothers with being a Tatar, is vainly also a Russian, they say this offends his national identity, then he is superfluous in Russia.

                Can I find out why? As far as I know, the Volga Tatars are the heirs of the Great Bulgaria and live on the middle Volga almost 500 years earlier than the Russians.
              4. Ivan.
                Ivan. 6 August 2013 19: 50
                0
                When two peoples live in one country more than peacefully, we can say that these are fraternal peoples, in the USSR everyone was happy about the success of their fellow citizens and their nationality did not infringe on anyone, on the contrary, everyone felt a little Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, Kazakh, Tatar, Georgian, Azeibardjan and etc. Rejoicing and empathizing for their fellow citizens. Perhaps and even probably there were exceptions confirming the rule. Your tribe will not understand.
        3. rolik
          rolik 6 August 2013 18: 49
          +6
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And I do not care who and what he thinks, I'm not Russian - I live in RUSSIAN RUSSIA

          I fully support. And I want to add that I am proud that I am RUSSIAN. Because my parents, grandfathers and great-grandfathers were RUSSIAN.
        4. I am a Russian
          I am a Russian 6 August 2013 19: 12
          +5
          Quote: rolik
          I fully support. And I want to add


          I AM RUSSIAN !

          ... but I'm tired of the lies, the hypocrisy of meanness, the theft of the former republics, and now foreign states. Bored with black faces on the streets of cities and villages. We got the scribbles of the "friends" of the Russians, carrying a knife in their bosom.
        5. ATATA
          ATATA 6 August 2013 19: 13
          +1
          Quote: rolik
          Because my parents, grandfathers and great-grandfathers were RUSSIAN.

          Have you done a genetic examination?
          Or Russians in spirit, but that’s the difference.
          The dictionary of the Russian language, for example, was Dahl.
          And who is he Russian, or not?
          And who is Vysotsky?
        6. Ivan.
          Ivan. 6 August 2013 19: 28
          +3
          Quote: ATATA
          Have you done a genetic examination?

          I doubt that Russian can be distinguished from Tatar by genes, except as an exception, in Russian genes there are many peoples and in Tatar more likely as well. There will be no struggle for the purity of ranks in Russia.
          Quote: ATATA
          Or Russians in spirit,

          In my opinion, this is enough, and if children are raised in the Russian spirit, they will be hereditary Russians. In my opinion, consciousness determines being.
        7. sasha.28blaga
          sasha.28blaga 7 August 2013 04: 07
          +1
          And forgive Pushkin, probably the most important Russian.
    3. Corsair
      Corsair 6 August 2013 23: 54
      0
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      And I do not care who and what he thinks, I'm not Russian - I live in RUSSIAN RUSSIA.

      And to assume (so far purely hypothetical) that the "fugitive" Snowden will receive Russian citizenship, you will name him in a new status RUSSIAN?
      And don't you think that the phrase "Russian citizenship"best suited"Russian"?
    4. Ivan.
      Ivan. 7 August 2013 11: 09
      +2
      Quote: Corsair
      Will you name it in the new status RUSSIAN?
      And don't you think that the word combination "Russian citizenship" is best suited to "Russian"?

      I will have to be too lazy to answer, he will remain an "American" (the essence cannot be changed instantly) but will acquire Russian citizenship. He made this mess for the sake of his country, in Russia he only "hid".
  8. Anti
    Anti 7 August 2013 13: 39
    -1
    Quote: ATATA
    I join the request of Manager.


    I need to satisfy the request, I join. winked
  • Uncle Serozha
    Uncle Serozha 6 August 2013 18: 18
    11
    Quote: Manager
    I ASK THE ADMINISTRATION DELETE MY PROFILE

    So fast, impulsive and thoughtless reaction is hardly justified.
    What exactly do you want to delete your profile for? Just because some forum members use the word "Russians", which you personally do not like? Is that all?
    Have mercy, but arguing over words is nonsense. For you, this word carries negative emotions because it was used by Yeltsin. Excellent - do not use it. But why self-destruct?
    And to the question "what happened to the site" I will answer that he (the site) has clearly grown wiser. And impulsive-emotional-patriotic slogans have clearly become less popular. IMHO.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 6 August 2013 20: 04
      +1
      Quote: Uncle Seryozha
      Have mercy, but arguing over words is nonsense. For you, this word carries negative emotions because it was used by Yeltsin. Great - don't use it

      The argument is not about words but about concepts that shape the worldview. Yeltsin used this word because he was advised, but what it carries, I often hear about Russians from the SMD in connection with extremism, and so ... Russians ...
    2. sasha.28blaga
      sasha.28blaga 7 August 2013 04: 12
      +2
      Uncle Seryozha, do not speak for everyone, for example, I have not grown wiser and I do not want to grow wiser in those cases when it comes to infringement of rights, freedom (by the way, I like the word "WILL" instead of freedom-to be free from something, WILL-to be free actions in their convictions for which you will be appreciated in the end) of my Motherland, my fellow countrymen, regardless of the nation.
  • Manager
    Manager 6 August 2013 19: 23
    +5
    Quote: Manager
    I ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO DELETE MY PROFILE.


    I ask you to cancel the petition!
    Thanks to everyone who supported me!
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 6 August 2013 19: 56
      +6
      Quote: Manager
      Thanks to everyone who supported me!

      It is necessary to be more careful with emotions; it came to mutual insults in my opinion that are unfounded. It would be nice if you forgave each other and tried to understand each other.
    2. 12345
      12345 6 August 2013 21: 19
      0
      Quote: Manager
      Quote: Manager
      I ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO DELETE MY PROFILE.


      I ask you to cancel the petition!
      Thanks to everyone who supported me!


      Manager, come on, catch your breath while changing a smashed computer? Hot guy...
    3. ATATA
      ATATA 6 August 2013 21: 31
      0
      Quote: 12345
      Manager, go catch your breath

      100500 drinks good
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  • Uncle Serozha
    Uncle Serozha 6 August 2013 18: 00
    +4
    Quote: Manager
    And I will always insist that the state-forming people in Russia are Russians.

    And no one claimed that this is not so. Do not replace the subject of the dispute. It was said that with the state-forming role of Russians, there are other peoples in Russia. And therefore, collectively, citizens of the Russian Federation are not called Russian. Russians are a perfectly normal word. The fact of the use of this word by Yeltsin does not take it beyond the framework of Russian speech.
  • ATATA
    ATATA 6 August 2013 18: 09
    +3
    Quote: Manager
    Judah is a Jew. But I am Russian.

    Judah is not a nationality, but a state of mind.
    You (well, I can’t write you after these posts) have black, from anger.
    Morally healthy Russian, this is not peculiar.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 6 August 2013 18: 58
      +2
      Quote: ATATA
      Judah is not a nationality, but a state of mind.

      It is both.
      Quote: ATATA
      You (well, I can’t write you after these posts) have black, from anger.

      And on the contrary, I can’t speak to good people, but only to you with bad people (you are a distance, you are an appeal to a friend) Here you obviously went too far, and both of them. Emotion is a bad adviser.
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 6 August 2013 18: 39
    -3
    Quote: Manager
    Judah is a Jew. But I am Russian

    then answer such a question Russian is who ?!

    Well, how to determine this is Russian, but this is not
    1. Proud.
      Proud. 6 August 2013 23: 07
      +7
      Be russian
      (author of the poem - Evgeny Skvoreshnev)

      Being Russian is not a merit, but a burden.
      When the alarm is on the run,
      Hold the belly of kurguzo,
      We grab hold of it and take it down.

      Forget about your own trouble and pain,
      Not getting smarter at all until gray ...
      To be Russian means to be a warrior in the field,
      Even if you are alone in this field.

      Being Russian is not a reward, but a retribution.
      Because the world’s soul is rebellious,
      You stand up for a stranger, like a brother,
      And then he will sell you ...

      Being Russian is shameful and shameful,
      When we are behind the barbed line
      They used to harvest their grain
      For children not a Russian, but a stranger.

      We are Russians. We fool around and pamper
      When grabbing the snow with a hangover mouth
      To any hell we climb with a kiss
      Expecting a bloodstream then ...

      The people live, guided by a gloomy fate,
      For the fatherly way and his image
      Trustingly paying for the skin,
      Although, more often - the head.

      We are Russians. We are with unholy love
      Breaking fraternally poor loaf,
      And in gratitude we hear above ourselves
      Just two words: “it is necessary!” And “come on!”

      Being Russian is not a joy, but a poison,
      With unproductive sadness on the brow
      Paying from ancient times - generously and bloodily -
      Because you live on your own land.

      Being Russian means blocking the way for bandits,
      That trample our land with a boot.
      To be Russian means to be killed
      Fellow more often than the enemy.

      To be Russian means to stand against the wall,
      And let the whole bastard shoot you
      But before her don't fall on her knees,
      Mercy, grabbing the boot, asking.

      Being Russian is a job, duty and share
      Protect the holy honor of the earth
      From the aliens that their Talmud is musol,
      Two thousand years led us to the abyss.

      We are Russians. We are on the chopping block
      Casting an eye over my father’s eye,
      But the beggar’s last shirt,
      Without delay, we habitually give.

      To be Russian is providence and right,
      Not fearing either a bullet or a knife,
      Stubbing stubbornly and rough,
      Not inferior to the mates of the line.

      To be Russian means to grow bread in bad weather.
      And there is no rain - even with blood drizzle.
      But still, what happiness is it -
      Be Russian! Among the Russians! In Russia!

      I grow Russian and tender seed
      Not because someone else’s clan is filthy,
      But let the tribe describe it like this
      Some Jew or gypsy.

      To be Russian means to be in reliable strength.
      And despise the native land bargaining.
      It’s not for nothing that the Suvorov rivers under Izmail:
      - We are Russians! Hooray! What a delight! ..

      I am Russian! Heart, spirit, jerk of the skin.
      I am proud of my ancient nickname.
      Don’t give me at least for a moment, at least in some way, God,
      Not to become Russian, but someone else! ..
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 6 August 2013 19: 15
    +2
    Quote: Manager
    Quote: seasoned
    Go away judah

    Judah is a Jew. But I am Russian. And no matter how much you want it, I’m proud of it. And I will always insist that the state-forming people in Russia are Russians.

    Judas is a transcription of the Hebrew name Yehuda. And a Jew is a transcription from the word "Hebrew". Generally self-designation of Jews in Hebrew yehudim.
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  • Povit
    Povit 6 August 2013 18: 52
    +2
    There are more than a hundred nations and nationalities in Russia. And we are all Russians. There is nothing offensive here, you can only be proud. We are citizens of Russia. Belonging to the country is not a nationality.
  • Setrac
    Setrac 6 August 2013 20: 16
    +2
    Quote: Manager
    We all live in Russia. And Russian and other peoples. But it is unnecessary to call everyone Russians.

    We will not call everyone Russians, there are many foreigners in Russia, they are definitely not Russians. Not everyone deserves such an honor - to be called the citizens of our great country - Russia - Russians.
  • Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 6 August 2013 21: 01
    +2
    Is your religion only Orthodoxy? Muslims, Catholics, Buddhists and atheists where do you get away from Russia?
  • Ivan.
    Ivan. 6 August 2013 18: 02
    +6
    Quote: Setrac
    Not all Russians are Russians
    not all Russians are Russians.

    The first half is true, but the second ...
    We had a Russian Georgian (Stalin), a Russian half-African Pushkin, a bunch of others to list too much. As Moscow is not only a city, not only a river, but also a capital and much more. (Maybe an unfortunate example, but it’s clear what I wanted to say) So with the word Russian - this is a block of concepts stretching back into the depths of centuries and nationality is not in the first place there (never The Russian people did not consist of one single people, it was always a family of peoples and therefore there is an expression - "brothers Slavs"). If Satan who almost subdued the whole world is afraid of Russians, then it is an honor to be Russian. Russian is a superficial word that does not carry the proper semantic load.
    1. urganov
      urganov 6 August 2013 19: 47
      +4
      Russian, it’s not a nationality, it’s a state of mind, it’s a way of thinking, it’s belonging to a certain cultural layer in the history of mankind. And nationality (belonging to certain tribal unions, Slavs, Finno-Ugric peoples, Turkic-speaking nationalities, etc.) are not important, as Russian history shows. A Russian is an old word meaning a citizen of Russia living on its territory.
      1. Ivan.
        Ivan. 6 August 2013 22: 52
        +1
        Quote: urganov
        A Russian is an old word meaning a citizen of Russia living on its territory.

        But at the same time, the difference is both between the concepts of PEOPLE and ELECTORATE, when “Russians” refer to the electorate, to the population. This word may be legitimate, but it does not unite people. Turning to the Russians means not turning to anyone, no one considers himself a Russian, anyone - a Tatar, a Russian, a Chuvash ... but just not a Russian, although we do not forget for a moment that we are citizens of the Russian Federation. Russians were a unifying nation, it would be good for them to become it again and not to do this drinks
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 6 August 2013 23: 38
          +2
          But this is nonsense. No matter how loyal and well-deserved officers of the USSR the Israel Fisanovich or Isaac Presaisen are, even all their exploits cannot be made Russian from these Jews. Just as Bagramyan or Lesilidze did not become Russian. Although their merits to the Fatherland are somewhat higher than that of General Vlasov.
          1. Ivan.
            Ivan. 7 August 2013 00: 08
            0
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            No matter how loyal and well-deserved officers of the USSR the Israel Fisanovich or Isaac Presaisen are, even all their exploits cannot be made of these Russian Jews

            These yes, they won’t.
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Just as Baghramyan or Lesilidze did not become Russian

            Although I don’t really know about them, I’m sure that they considered Russians (at least one) to be brothers and other people could not be brothers. Just as Baghramyan became a Russian, so his Russian friend became an Armenian, the Russians absorb the inner wealth of other peoples, they are not closed.
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 7 August 2013 10: 38
      +4
      Quote: Ivan.
      If Satan, who has almost subjugated the whole world, is afraid of Russians, then it is an honor to be Russian.
  • Warrawar
    Warrawar 6 August 2013 17: 37
    +3
    Quote: Manager
    I do not know who the Russians are .... it's probably some kind of rabble. I am Russian and I know only the Russian people. I am disgusted by the word coined by the drunk. I urge everyone on the site to pay attention to this too. We have already taken the nationality in the passport. Do not let this happen in our minds.
    The author of the article is a minus.

    Plus!
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 6 August 2013 20: 24
      +7
      There is a Russian proverb: "even call it a pot, just don't put it in the stove." Everyone can position themselves as they want, as long as they love their homeland, and we have it in common for everyone, regardless of nationality. And beyond the hill they call us all Russians.
  • Anti
    Anti 6 August 2013 21: 46
    +5
    Quote: Manager
    I don’t know who the Russians are ...


    Oh, a great century of military disputes, a witness to the glory of the Russians. A. Pushkin.
  • pensioner
    pensioner 6 August 2013 17: 09
    +3
    However ... As all the same, everything is started at the psheks in the head! It seems that God created them for ridicule. And empathy ...
    1. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 6 August 2013 18: 00
      +2
      Quote: retired
      However ... As all the same, everything is started at the psheks in the head! It seems that God created them for ridicule. And empathy ...

      When the Lord wants to punish - he deprives the mind ....
      1. tomas.09
        tomas.09 6 August 2013 18: 44
        +1
        Psheki just a sanitary pad, no more. Use them and throw them away (divide the territory). Russia has many methods of pressure on them; another question is the use of these methods.
    2. grafrozow
      grafrozow 6 August 2013 18: 55
      +1
      Quote: retired
      However ... As all the same, everything is started at the psheks in the head! It seems that God created them for ridicule. And empathy ...

      Good evening, Yuri. Why so about all the Poles, I am Russian, and my first wife was Polish, our son is again confusing power with the people.
      However, do not give in to anti-Russian phobias. Only a stupid person multiplies his enemies. It should, on the contrary, increase the number of friends.
      Notice, he gives an interview not to our correspondents, but to Western ones.
      Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
      An interview was given by an ardent Russophobe.
      The mention of PILSUDSKY (the enemy of all Russian) confirms this.
      Lech does not know that Pilsudsky’s brother was involved in the attempted assassination of Alexander the third together with his brother Lenin, Alexander, and received 15 years of hard labor. And what does our GAZPROM have its own interests there, everyone knows, and here is Russophobia? hi
  • Garrin
    Garrin 6 August 2013 17: 11
    +5
    I once publicly stated that the organization “No Radar” was supported by the Russians, and they answered me: “Present the account to which the money was transferred.”
    I begin to respect "logs"
  • alone
    alone 6 August 2013 17: 11
    14
    interesting thoughts from these political scientists! if the Czech population spoke out against pro, then they are being manipulated. Or maybe ordinary Czechs do not want to live in the atmosphere when a pro is deployed near your house, and a rocket is aimed at your house? Let me ask, what kind of reasonable person wants this?
  • nokki
    nokki 6 August 2013 17: 12
    +5
    Quote: Vadivak
    We are afraid. Decisions of own government


    We have Fursenko and Serdyukov such a thing that they are not suitable for NATO soles!
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 6 August 2013 17: 28
      +5
      Quote: nokki
      We have Fursenko and Serdyukov such a thing that they are not suitable for NATO soles!


      They had a gene to learn from. Hunchback started it all
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 7 August 2013 10: 42
        0
        Quote: Vadivak
        They had a gene to learn from. Hunchback started it all

        OTHERS are now learning from his "Talmuds" lol .
    2. Garrin
      Garrin 6 August 2013 18: 30
      +1
      Quote: nokki
      We have Fursenko and Serdyukov such a thing that they are not suitable for NATO soles!

      With your permission, I’ll edit a little:
      "We have Fursenko, Serdyukov and further down the list they've done this ... "
  • Pacifist
    Pacifist 6 August 2013 17: 18
    +5
    The normal position of a smart opponent. It was interesting to read.
    1. grafrozow
      grafrozow 6 August 2013 19: 03
      0
      Quote: Pacifist
      The normal position of a smart opponent. It was interesting to read.

      A sensible interview and calm without hysterics, like "Russians are coming", you also need to know someone else's opinion.
  • sined0707
    sined0707 6 August 2013 17: 27
    0
    he is not a scout, but a mattress litter, how can one say that ....
  • igorek451
    igorek451 6 August 2013 17: 28
    +1
    ..! Well, of course, their public opinion was against the deployment of the US radar on their territory, Russia is to blame .. Well, and also .. and the fact that a sensible part of the population may simply not want this, so this does not count ..
  • Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 6 August 2013 17: 29
    -1
    POLISH POSTER - not a brother, you are my Mongolian face
    1. Povit
      Povit 6 August 2013 19: 12
      +5
      Our ancestors once offended them very much. If their ancestors had won, now, in the greater territory of Russia, there would have been the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, we would have quietly and in every possible way hated them as they are now. I think this is a simple human .
    2. grafrozow
      grafrozow 6 August 2013 19: 23
      +5
      Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
      POLISH POSTER - not a brother, you are my Mongolian face
      Lesha is not a poster, this is the cover of the magazine "In Life" The headline is a spy in Warsaw. It is written in small print: about a film about the Smolensk tragedy, about some kind of carnival. There is nothing about my brother. Do not slip misinformation.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 6 August 2013 22: 40
        0
        Quote: grafrozow
        Lesha is not a poster, this is the cover of the magazine "In Life" The headline is a spy in Warsaw. It is written in small print: about a film about the Smolensk tragedy, about some kind of carnival. There is nothing about my brother. Do not slip misinformation.

        But the poster is a reminder ...

        Clickable Image:
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 7 August 2013 00: 33
          -1
          Quote: Corsair
          But the poster is a reminder ...
          1. grafrozow
            grafrozow 7 August 2013 01: 46
            0
            Quote: Corsair
            But the poster is a reminder ...

            From the same opera, friendship the Polish-Soviet is peace, independence, a happy morning of our homeland. What is the attitude to the article?
            1. Corsair
              Corsair 7 August 2013 03: 01
              0
              Quote: grafrozow
              From the same opera, friendship the Polish-Soviet is peace, independence, a happy morning of our homeland. What is the attitude to the article?

              Quote from the article:
              Rzeczpospolita: General Czesław Kiszczak, Minister of the Interior at the time of the Polish People’s Republic, once said that “the task of agents of influence is to process public opinion or certain circles in a given country. Processing in different directions. There are more complex combinations, for example, creating an atmosphere of hatred around a person or phenomenon. ” Does today's Russia act like that?

              You probably missed what I "laid out" TWO Polish poster of the end of the 40x - the beginning of the 50x ...
              So, the FIRST depicts the President of the People's Republic of Poland Boleslav Bierut and the Soviet Marshal Konstantin Konstantinovich Rokosovsky in a Polish uniform, with a full "iconostasis" on his chest. Being sent by I.V. Stalin to Poland in 1949, and having occupied the key post of Minister of Defense of the People's Republic of Poland, he conducted activities aimed at keeping Poland moving in the "right" direction.
              Can he be called an "agent of the Kremlin's influence"?
              In my opinion, you can! Mustard gas "agent" is very valuable, influential and effective ...
              At the SECOND, also the President of Poland, but already "in company" with I.V. Stalin, the creator and inspirer of this "implementation" operation.
              The slogans under the posters reflect the then ideological choice of Poland, to which K.K. Rokosowski "unobtrusively" pushed it ...
        2. grafrozow
          grafrozow 7 August 2013 01: 41
          -1
          Quote: Corsair
          But the poster is a reminder ...

          I don’t understand what this is for. Posters of the Soviet period, we bring prosperity to our homeland.
  • Micex
    Micex 6 August 2013 17: 30
    +2
    "" "" "" "" "" We have organizations that were called, for example, "Bazam - no" or "League of elders against the radar." "" "" "" "" "" "
    "
    If such organizations are able to turn the state’s policy in a different direction that is disadvantageous for the country, then, unfortunately, Europe will soon cease to develop completely ... It is strange that the interviewee could not fantasize that the Fukushima accident and the refusal of Europeans from nuclear power plants were FSB intrigues.
  • IRBIS
    IRBIS 6 August 2013 17: 44
    +4
    "Comrade" assessed the actions of Russian intelligence. And if he speaks the truth, then I again begin to believe that the former might of the country is being revived. After all, earlier, at the mention of the KGB, the Westerners shuddered through their bodies. Then they relaxed, thinking the dragon had died. But here is an example of the fact that the rumors about his death are greatly exaggerated. New personnel grow, experience appears. An excellently executed influence operation, even as judged by the enemy.
    1. mejik
      mejik 6 August 2013 18: 51
      +1
      but it seemed to me that this interview is like looking for a black cat in a black room when she is not there. In particular, radars, in particular.
  • kush62
    kush62 6 August 2013 17: 45
    +5
    - We are entering the Russian sphere of influence. The fact that the Soviet empire collapsed does not mean that Russia has no interests in this part of the world.

    Absolutely.
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 6 August 2013 17: 51
    +5
    This is what I noticed in the last six months of the year .. How dramatically the attitude towards Russia in the world has changed .. Many mongrels have been silenced both in our country and in the West .. I have been "rolling back" for now and I think this is for our firm position in relation to "tearing apart" Syria pieces like other countries .. But the most difficult thing for Russia is ahead .. (and the main problem is the fat cats sitting in grain positions ..) I am very happy about all this .. but ...
    1. Anatolich
      Anatolich 6 August 2013 22: 10
      +2
      Yes, now it seems to me that "fat cats" is one of the main problems within the country. It is necessary to toughen the law against them ... But unfortunately they also adopt laws.
  • nekromonger
    nekromonger 6 August 2013 17: 52
    0
    - How important are close relations with the United States for the security of the Czech Republic and Poland?

    - This is a key question. Someone could say that this is a blind faith in America, but do not pay attention to it. I know what restrictions Americans have, but this is the country that came to the aid of Europe in two world wars. We must maintain their interest in Europe. Russia would like to oust Americans from our continent, because here it is not afraid of anyone. There is only one country that Russians take with all seriousness, maximum two ...
    Hitler attacked them in 1939 and who defended their heart as an ally? England? no. America? no. wait, they will protect you now ...
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 7 August 2013 00: 34
      +1
      Quote: nekromonger
      There is only one country that Russians take with all seriousness, a maximum of two ...

      This is Germany and possibly Britain. The first, in spite of all the grief that she brought to Russia, we respect and appreciate as real warriors who know a lot about this matter and know how to fight. All the more valuable is our victory: not the pasta or the paddling pool overpowered but the real "militia professionals".
      We have always disliked the British, due to their corrupt, Jewish commercial corruption, "intrigue". About which Alexander 1 spoke openly. I think he was not far from the truth, because he knew the subject of the conversation very well.
      I was pleasantly surprised by the recognition in the article that the weather in Europe is done by Russia and Turkey. And not a word about the old democracies. And Poland loves England so much! Again at the zhekom bummer! Again the machinations of Moscow.
  • nokki
    nokki 6 August 2013 17: 53
    0
    Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
    An interview was given by an ardent Russophobe.


    And he took it too. By the way, an anecdote in the subject (not quite decent, but suitable for this Polish-Czech "fraternization").

    Sudentka journalism in practice in the regional newspaper.
    Editor:
    Have you ever taken an interview?
    Student:
    -Many times! What right now? Can I then brush my teeth quickly? ..
  • Alikovo
    Alikovo 6 August 2013 18: 07
    0
    Eastern Europe, the sphere of interests of Russia.
  • Gato
    Gato 6 August 2013 18: 07
    0
    There is only one country that Russians take with all seriousness, a maximum of two ..

    What country is it? Germany? And the second?
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 6 August 2013 18: 14
      -3
      This is unlikely, maybe uncle meant China? And beaten - broken Hans are unlikely to pose a great danger, but economic relations with them are a good deal. (It seems the Germans learned the lessons of the Second World War taught by Russian Vanya).
      1. saag
        saag 6 August 2013 18: 35
        +3
        In vain you are, they are the only ones who know how to fight, although they were always beaten. but nevertheless every time they climbed
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 6 August 2013 20: 33
          +2
          Quote: saag
          In vain you are, they are the only ones who know how to fight, although they were always beaten. but nevertheless every time they climbed

          For one beaten they give two not beaten. And so it is time for the Germans to start singing military marches for 70 years, probably sitting quietly for the first time in their history.
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 7 August 2013 00: 47
            +2
            Quote: Semurg
            it’s time for the Germans to start singing military marches for 70 years, probably sitting quietly for the first time in their history.

            The material prerequisites for the creation of the 4 Reich have already been created, but the nation has not been brought up in the spirit of militarism. This became especially noticeable after the reunification of Germany. The deutschers do not want to fight anymore, they do not have a national idea to return Prussia and their other lands. As a new Fuhrer appears with such slogans, then Europe will hear the drumming of marching assault squads. That's just bad luck: NATO members do not have territorial claims against each other. And the Poles 2 / 3 Prussia. We'll have to either get out of NATA ourselves or expel RP! Here's the dilemma ...
            1. sasha.28blaga
              sasha.28blaga 7 August 2013 04: 32
              +2
              So there’s no one to fight, half of Germany is Turks.
    2. grafrozow
      grafrozow 6 August 2013 19: 30
      -1
      Quote: Gato
      What country is it? Germany? And the second?
      Probably England
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 6 August 2013 18: 09
    +1
    Well, what could you expect from a rabid Russophobe? Of course, Russians are vodka, balalaika and dancing with bears, but this is purely gypsy fun (yes, the gypsies forgive me no offense). But no, it turns out there is another Russian fun to fool the public opinion of the Czech Republic and Poland .It is necessary to disrespect your people in such a way as to render them incapable of thinking independently. One of the comments correctly noted: the people against the American radar ABM come out of a sense of their own security. After all, the most stupid thing is clear, the deployment of an American missile defense system in Europe is like smoking in a powder warehouse. It will bounce and not sickly!
  • Manzevityj
    Manzevityj 6 August 2013 18: 16
    +1
    Andor Shandor (Andor Šándor) - Russophobe, he does not even hide it. At the same time, he is trying to pass off Russophobia as patriotism and concern for his homeland.
    Does Russia have interests in eastern Europe, does Russia manipulate people's minds? Yes, I hope this is so, because if Russophobia flourishes in this country, and the Americans turn out to be saviors who came to the rescue, then this only says that they have been brainwashed and manipulated for a long time.
    What I don’t understand, since it is possible to openly say that it is normal for the Czech Republic to fall under the zone of influence and interests of the USA, but is it bad for the zone of interests and influence of Russia?
    Well, if you are a patriot, then defend the independence and interests of the country.

    "- Poland and the Czech Republic block Russia's path to Europe. How can we repel attempts to restore the Russian sphere of influence in Central Europe?"
    them, what Central Europe asked about this, and therefore builds the northern stream bypassing?

    That's who exactly could ask for it, so the United States, and they do not skimp on money in their requests.
    “Present the account to which the money was transferred.” But the Americans are not stupid, they will not do that.
  • Krsk
    Krsk 6 August 2013 18: 18
    0
    . Do not forget that Poland, independent of foreign gas supplies, is a disaster for your suppliers.


    Of course I'm not special in gas matters, but something tells me that he will smack nonsense. and she squeals with pleasure
  • Slavs69
    Slavs69 6 August 2013 18: 19
    0
    "that this is blind faith in America, this is the country that came to the aid of Europe in two world wars."
    Comments are redundant.
  • Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 6 August 2013 18: 19
    10
    Here is my debut on this resource smile
    And I liked the article. Everything is extremely laconic and simple. We, Russians, a priori their enemies, those Anglo-Saxons, a priori their defenders, they themselves, a priori Russophobes. I was born and, with interruptions, for 50 years now, since I live, in the now former ESSR, and I have heard enough of all this and seen enough from local (titular) ex-party leaders. There, as in the article, "even s.y in the eyes, everything ... dew" History, etc. does not count.
  • viruskvartirus
    viruskvartirus 6 August 2013 18: 20
    +2
    ))) long neighing, if you briefly voice the meaning of the article, in no case should you be allowed to tell the truth. But the fact that the deployment of Amer’s radars is not a direct danger or the production of shale gas is harmless ... Let them ask themselves why the popularity of Russia Today is growing.
  • mushtuc
    mushtuc 6 August 2013 18: 22
    +2
    The Poles fantasize as usual.
  • MREDBEST
    MREDBEST 6 August 2013 18: 31
    +1
    I don’t know what it takes to be a naive person to believe in this fairy tale)))))) America helped Europe during World War II laughing America may have organized these wars, and they say it helped Europe)))
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 6 August 2013 18: 35
    0
    however, this is the country that came to the aid of Europe in two world wars

    Does he really believe in his words or is this just another PR syshya ??? in principle, I would not be surprised that Comrade General Cheslav Kishchak seriously believes in this. And if he doesn’t believe. He plays in public and knows the truth, then why is he propagating a lie ???
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 6 August 2013 18: 51
    +1
    The United States in the 30-40s was in a deep crisis .. bankruptcy unemployment .. only after the Second World War it suddenly became a world power with a lot of money and technology .. Japan "sponsoring" Europe .. threatening the USSR ..
    Quote: MREDBEST
    I don’t know what it takes to be a naive person to believe in this fairy tale)))))) America helped Europe during World War II laughing America may have organized these wars, and they say it helped Europe)))

    The United States in the 30-40s was in a deep crisis .. bankruptcy unemployment .. only after the Second World War it suddenly became a dramatically world power with a lot of money and technology .. Japan "sponsoring" Europe .. threatening the USSR with nuclear bombings .. etc Where does the money come from Zin ?? angry
  • tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 6 August 2013 19: 05
    +3
    Three years ago, the Czech Republic was close to agreeing to host an American radar - an element of the American missile defense system. However, the public was astonishingly critical of this idea.

    Well, what wants to be the goal number 1 for striking nuclear weapons.

    for example, information is disseminated that shale gas is dangerous - when it is extracted, groundwater sources may be contaminated

    Strange, pumping toxic chemicals into the soil with a huge risk of contamination of groundwater is so nonsense, and why are Czechs reluctant to drink toxic water?

    The actions of the Russians do not surprise me: if I were in their place, I would do the same.

    You are not in our place, therefore you cannot, and that is why you are giving such an interview.

    Poland, independent of foreign gas supplies, is a disaster for your suppliers.

    If we are so proud, why are we so poor? Well, okay, maybe he went too much)))

    Maybe the EU will help us cope with problems?

    Already helped to destroy all production and agriculture.

    Poland and the Czech Republic block Russia's path to Europe
    Do not flatter yourself, for us there are no barriers, and we break the flimsy fences resembling but only in case of emergency.

    but I have no absolute certainty that Article 5 of the Washington Treaty will be respected by all its members always and under any conditions
    Britain has once complied with such obligations under a similar agreement, remember how it ended for you, history will repeat itself.

    I think we have already lost, or look and lose. It will happen within five, perhaps 20-30 years
    5 years is more real than 30.

    Americans have limitations, but this is the country that came to the aid of Europe in two world wars.

    After that, it becomes clear to me what kind of person this is, or a blind fool or a paid traitor to the interests of his country.
    1. alone
      alone 6 August 2013 23: 33
      +1
      a person fulfills the money received. a political scientist. sweeps the language as a broom
  • Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 6 August 2013 19: 07
    +1
    Russians know how to influence public opinion - this is the main occupation of their intelligence. There have been many episodes confirming this in history; it’s enough to take a closer look at organizations that protested against the deployment of American missiles in the UK in the 80s.


    What a nonsense! in the 80s, Russians were not up to Small Britain. In the 80s, spotted Gorbi betrayed the USSR and the ATS, surrendered to NATO the entire zone of Soviet occupation. NATO and the United States did not liquidate a single military base and moved east, to the borders of the USSR.

    You need to look at this country soberly and without unnecessary emotions. I know that this is not easy, especially in the context of Polish-Soviet history. Czech-Soviet history was also not simple, especially after 1968.

    The Czechs fought against the USSR on the side of Hitler and were in the zone of Soviet occupation, in addition, they were in the police department and had no right to any coups. In 1968 there was a criminal fascist rebellion, and, speaking without hypocrisy, the Czechs were treated too gently. Aggressors and traitors deserve stricter punishment.
  • velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 6 August 2013 19: 13
    +2
    Either the author is not mentally healthy, or frankly plays and says nothing at all what he thinks, trying to do through the press what he says in the article - to manipulate public opinion. It is unlikely that such nonsense was sincerely expressed by people who previously held similar posts.
    1. sergey72
      sergey72 6 August 2013 19: 18
      +1
      Quote: velikoros-xnumx
      Either the author is not mentally healthy, or frankly plays and

      Have you noticed too? For me, one client of a psychiatric hospital with delusions of grandeur is interviewing another with delusions of persecution ..... Get out of bed ... belay
  • pamero
    pamero 6 August 2013 19: 15
    0
    Interests in Europe are undoubtedly, but as a springboard for action, Europe as a testing ground! Ask yourself what is in Europe? Nothing, they all ended in the 14th century! They are beggars! Garbage houses are built and land in Holland is reclaimed by the sea. Just think, they don't even have land. Which one or two countries does Russia take seriously (is it afraid)? Europe is a puppet in the hands of the United States. The United States is now "bent" and Europe with its multiculturalism is a pipe! They unleashed a war in the Middle East in order to wash everyone in blood, push each other against each other, and climb up over their heads. It's true Russians are not afraid of anyone, article of a sober person.
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 6 August 2013 19: 18
    +1
    That's the question always gnaws .. Why on the continent of North and South America there are practically no major military conflicts .. ?? The ocean behind the ocean in front ... and there are not enough natural resources there ... Hugo Chavez tried to restore justice there (he suddenly fell ill) Well, everyone knows about Cuba ... Amer agreed on everything if only our bases were not there .. But in at the same time, the whole Old World is shrouded in their bases and local conflicts .. religious political wars bombing .. crises ... and all this after 45 years .. What is the reason .. ?? On the American continents there are no such problems as ours .. everyone lives richly .. ??? It feels like Amer over our countries are deliberately plotting it all ... so that we again begin to destroy ourselves in the Old World .. Their continent protects the oceans .. and brains, finance, resources are pumping like in the Second World .. !! very profitable .. and safely the main thing .. Here is such a reflection (((
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 6 August 2013 20: 09
      +1
      It all started with the fact that certain families moved from the Middle East to Europe and they strengthened well in the beginning in London.
  • Manager
    Manager 6 August 2013 19: 21
    +3
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    then answer such a question Russian is who ?!

    Well, how to determine this is Russian, but this is not


    Good evening, I'm back. As I can see, they still supported me, and by this request I ask you to cancel the removal request.

    Regarding your question. Russian is primarily a nationality. And we will not go into details of a centuries-old history and incest (Tatar-Mongol yoke, etc.). A pure nation does not exist now. But there are peoples who honor their roots and history. Believe it or not, I have it in my blood. I don’t know how to become a Russian in adulthood, maybe it’s possible, but basically they need to be born. The Russian people are a hero people, a martyr people. This is an inexplicable nation that has been crushed by the government throughout history, but this people went to their homeland overnight! This is the people who, having defeated in the Second World War entering Berlin, shared the last piece of bread with local old people. This is the most deeply religious people. The only people in the world who do not let all the dirt from the west. This is a people who brought other nations education, science, medicine, and in return received disrespect and persecution after some time. But this people also forgives. You can continue for a long time. Therefore, it offends me when a Russian is deprived of nationality. Even in the USA there are AFRO-Americans. So why can’t we do something similar?
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 6 August 2013 20: 26
      +2
      Quote: Manager
      This is the most deeply religious people. The only people in the world who do not let all the dirt from the west

      This is superfluous, you do not belong to the "chosen of God", and + you can find people who are less mired in the western mess.
      Quote: Manager
      Even in the USA there are AFRO-Americans. So why can’t we do something similar?

      ... African-American or Russian-American? smile It's okay to be Russian enough. But the law isn’t all right, I don’t remember the details, but in Soviet times and now some provisions on national entities in the field of culture, science, etc. are not legislatively drawn up. The article was a couple of three months ago about the situation of the RSFSR in relation to other republics, the title I do not remember.
      1. Manager
        Manager 7 August 2013 09: 36
        0
        Quote: Ivan.
        ... African-American or Russian-American?

        No, of course. I just said it by the way. Like, if the American prefix is ​​still required there, then why is everything against the Russian prefix.
        1. Ivan.
          Ivan. 7 August 2013 11: 20
          +1
          Quote: Manager
          No, of course. I just said it by the way. Like if there is still an American prefix

          Joke smile and their experience of tolerance is superfluous to us.
          Quote: Manager
          that's why everything is against the Russian prefix.

          The fight against Russianness has been going on for a long time and competently lead it and it did not stop.
    2. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 7 August 2013 00: 20
      -1
      So I did not understand why you decided that "Russian people are deprived of their nationality." The meaning of the word often depends on the community where it is used. If our Tatar is Russian abroad, then they speak about the country. Well, they do not have another spov (country and nationality means one word) to designate the country from which he came, also in this sense they can talk about you (and not about nationality). That is why we say American or French, regardless of color or nationality ( it will be Afro at home). When a Tatar comes home to the country (Russia), he will become a Tatar, and you are Russian by nationality. And he wants to be who he is, otherwise he will not respect himself. You, judging by your nervousness (to put it mildly), think so too. And at home we know that our country is called Russia and not Russian, therefore, speaking about our belonging to it, we use the word Russians. It's just Russian. EBN spoke a lot in Russian, why not use it or something. Otherwise, mindless tension will be created, but do we need it?
  • Russ69
    Russ69 6 August 2013 19: 23
    +4
    And Th, they zipped the article, I was so neighing ... smile
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 6 August 2013 20: 53
      +2
      Quote: Russ69
      And Th, they zipped the article, I was so neighing ... smile

      By the way, I agree. hi
  • edeligor
    edeligor 6 August 2013 19: 29
    +1
    My compliments to all present. I read the article, though I did not read the comments. I'll tell you from myself. Now it became clear to me that the Poles' hatred of everything Russian as it was at the European Football Championship. The funniest thing in this case is to start proving, they say, "we are good, we respect everyone." There is no need to prove anything to anyone! Such diseases have been treated for generations. And now you need to follow the old Eastern proverb - "the dog barks, the caravan moves on."
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 6 August 2013 19: 35
    +3
    Quote: Russ69
    And Th, they zipped the article, I was so neighing ... smile

    And you're right !!! By the way, you need to rejoice at such articles (they stepped on the tail and it’s good for someone ..) I’ll go plus.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 6 August 2013 19: 53
    0
    Article net ordering.
    A person writes about some things that he does not understand.
    - That is, the Russians manipulated Czech public opinion?
    - Sure. This is done this way: for example, information is circulated that shale gas is dangerous - when it is extracted, ground water sources may be contaminated. I am far from underestimating environmental problems, however, if you spread this information in environmental organizations, then the media will begin to repeat these words. Then everything is simple: the public learns that nature will be irreparably harmed, the water will be poisoned, and the consequences of shale gas production are unknown to anyone. As a result, people oppose this gas.

    You should at least bother to read the information a bit so as not to write nonsense.
    BASIC PROBLEMS AND PROSPECTS FOR SHALE GAS PRODUCTION
    Sorokin S.N., Goryachev A.A.
    Institute for Energy Research RAS (INEI RAS), Moscow
    Groundwater pollution
    The most commonly discussed issue is groundwater pollution. The essence of the problem is that during hydraulic fracturing, microcracks can occur in deep shale formations through which methane and hydraulic fracturing fluids can migrate to overlying aquifers designed for drinking water withdrawal.
    Source: Mark Zoback (Stanford Department of Geophysics), Saya Kitasei (Worldwatch Institute), Brad Copithorne (Environmental Defense Fund), Briefing Paper 1, Addressing the Environmental Risks from Shale Gas Development, July 2010; GWPC

    And such controversial places in the article are full
    1. Locksmith
      Locksmith 6 August 2013 20: 23
      +2
      And after reading the article, I still have such an associative series = some have learned to rave aloud and the second = "sorry we are not allowed to lick the Americans' ass on the air" fool
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 6 August 2013 20: 48
        0
        Quote: Locksmith
        "sorry we are not allowed to lick the butt of Americans on the air"

        competently so when kicked to the wall, hold +
  • AnpeL
    AnpeL 6 August 2013 19: 57
    +1
    If you look at the discussions on the topic of the European defense strategy or a joint European security policy, they look smoothly only on paper. In practice, none of these common strategies exist. What should we rely on today? Countries such as Poland or the Czech Republic need real partners who, for strategic reasons, decide to protect them of their own free will or for other reasons.

    So maybe it's time to think about the fact that Russia can be a real partner, which, by the way, unlike "overseas friends", does not need wars and instability in Europe (count it at all), it seems like
  • MREDBEST
    MREDBEST 6 August 2013 20: 02
    -4
    Apparently, corrupt people got to this site. what
    So many pluses are not the topic, at least for the moment, apparently they work out the words dollar per hour)))
  • starhina01
    starhina01 6 August 2013 20: 05
    +2
    as I understand it, they are afraid they mean respect request
  • Terner38
    Terner38 6 August 2013 20: 16
    +3
    I liked Tati and smiled strongly. Glad for our counterintelligence, glad that the Czech Republic! is under Russian influence. I am glad that Russians are not fools and do not transfer money to accounts directly, this is complete proof that American are fools and money is transferred directly to all kinds of "foreign agents." I am glad that they have such amateurs in power - let them pump shale gas - it may get bad, then they will buy water from us at the price of gas!
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 6 August 2013 20: 20
    0
    Quote: starhina01
    as I understand it, they are afraid they mean respect request

    Plus you .. understood the political moment correctly .. (the title of the article speaks for itself ..))) and the rest ... "The war plan will show .."
  • asbaev
    asbaev 6 August 2013 20: 26
    +3
    I'd love to believe that we really can do what they are afraid of.
  • lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 6 August 2013 20: 37
    +1
    Someone might say that this is a blind faith in America, but you should not pay attention to it. I know what Americans have limitations, but this is the country that came to the aid of Europe in two world wars. We must maintain their interest in Europe.

    This alone puts an end to the adequacy of this person as a patriot of his country. Deflection offset.