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The US is ready to destroy Russia?

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Rocket RGM-165 SM-4 for striking ground targets.



“Tomorrow” questions are answered by a military expert.

"TOMORROW". Sergey Evgenievich, it is known that the deployment of the American antimissile defense system in Europe makes it possible to intercept our strategic missiles. US anti-Russian orientation of its missile defense categorically deny. There is a protracted diplomatic push-pull. However, there is a feeling that the situation is much more dramatic than it seems at first glance.

Sergey ANUCHIN. You can say so ... The missile defense system developed by the Americans literally before our eyes has evolved from a defensive to an offensive system, into an effective tool of the first crushing blow. Indeed, until recently in Russia there was no meaningful idea of ​​the level of danger of the American missile defense system. There was only some kind of intuitive alarm ... The United States, developing anti-missile systems, hide, primarily from their European allies, that these weapons are also shock. Thus, the allies are used "in the dark." Pumping psychosis, the United States intimidates Europeans with false threats. In fact, under the guise of an “umbrella”, a shock system is being dragged in, which should be as close as possible to our territory. The weapons used by the Americans in the missile defense system have fundamentally different possibilities than is commonly believed.

"TOMORROW". What does "other opportunities" mean?

Sergey ANUCHIN. Take, for example, the integration of the Patriot PAC-3 MSE missile defense into the F 15C fighter. Mike Trotsky, Vice President of Lockheed for Air Defense and Missile Defense Systems, supervised the work. The launch of the rocket from the F-15C fighter must be carried out from a container mounted on a pylon designed for outboard fuel tanks. At the same time, the container repeats itself as an outboard fuel tank, which allows it to be suspended under any aircraft carrying such tanks. Studies have also been conducted on the feasibility of integrating Patriot missiles into fifth-generation fighters F-22 and JSF. The most massive F-16 fighter was not forgotten. Moreover, it was proposed to equip with such missiles even basic patrol aircraft aviation P 8A "Poseidon". The placement of anti-missiles aboard unmanned combat aircraft, for example, Northrop Grumman X-47B, was ideal. But when placing anti-missiles on such carriers, there can be no talk of any interception of enemy missiles. Simply put, these are missiles for use from the air at specific objects on earth.

"TOMORROW". What are the tasks Americans were going to solve this way?

Sergey ANUCHIN. There is, for example, the task of winning air supremacy. In general, it is mainly solved during the air battles. However, in 1967, Israel managed to destroy a large part of the enemy’s aviation at airfields with sudden air strikes. An example of a seductive. Tempted by the blitzkrieg, the Americans are constantly working on various options for delivering a sudden disarming and unanswered blow.
13 June 2002, the United States withdrew from the Treaty on the limitation of missile defense systems from 26 in May 1972, according to which they could place anti-missiles, as well as all means for aiming and targeting weapons PRO, only in its territory. Now in Europe, the United States has already planned a third missile defense position area with silo launchers with GBI antimissiles in Poland.
Just as our Pioneer medium-range rocket was created on the basis of an intercontinental rocket, so the GBI intercontinental rocket Minitman became the basis of the antimissile. In fact, this is a medium-range missile, which was also tasked with intercepting missiles. Even from the mine launchers, the Americans did not refuse. Located in Poland, this GBI anti-rocket would be able to reach even to Novosibirsk. What did Colonel Vladimir Vasilyev pay attention to in 2008, which is half a century like a missile defense issue, starting with work on a graduation project at the Korolev Design Bureau.
After the visit of 6 – 8 in July 2009 of the US President Obama to Moscow, the Americans, proceeding from the arguments of the Russian side, abandoned the third missile defense position region with the heavy GBI “interceptors”. 17 September 2009, Obama said that now the main focus is on the mobile missile defense system deployed in the Mediterranean, Baltic and Black Seas and on the territory of several European countries. The problem is that as a result of the American "concessions", the shock distances to Moscow were further reduced. The flying time of the SM-3 missiles of the mobile missile defense system is even less than that of the GBI interceptors. From the leading positions at the borders of Russia, American "anti-missiles" can perform strategic tasks incomparably better than intercontinental missiles. Their flying time (5 – 6 minutes) makes the Russian retaliatory counter strike almost impossible, since the decision time for a retaliatory strike is at least 4 minutes. A massive blow to the decision-making centers, command and control points and points of deployment of our missiles will almost guaranteed to disable their critical part. According to Admiral Vladimir Komoyedov, chairman of the defense committee of the State Duma, "a group of American scientists prepared a report that bombing all of Russia is not necessary: ​​there are 12 main goals to be hit - and the state will be defeated." The American mobile missile defense system is a carefully concealed means of inevitable destruction of Russia. The situation is much worse than in 1941 year.

"TOMORROW". How can SM-3 anti-missiles be used to strike ground targets?

Sergey ANUCHIN. Over the past decade, there has been a qualitative breakthrough in rocket and other technologies. Tactical missiles have been transformed into strategic ones, they are capable of hitting targets both in space and on earth. History Standard Missile (SM) family originates from the Tartar anti-aircraft missile. Work on the SM-1 rocket began in the 1963 year. In this case, initially all modifications of the SM-1 could be used for firing at surface targets within the radio horizon of the ship. Also, modifications of the SM-1 were specially developed for use on land or surface objects beyond the horizon. On the basis of the SM-1 anti-aircraft missile, the Standard ARM air-to-radar missile was also created. The next SM-2 rocket could also be used for targets on the surface. However, at that time, preference was given to the “Harpoon” subsonic rocket with a greater range of fire. But in 1998, the United States based on the Standard-2 rocket began developing a LASM rocket for strikes against ground targets with the goal of adopting it by 2004. According to the developers, such a ship-to-earth missile could play a new role in attacks from the sea with a radius of up to 200 nautical miles (370 km), providing flexible point fire support for the US Marine Corps. The missile guidance system is inertial in combination with satellite navigation. In addition to the standard high-explosive fragmentation warhead, the missile is also equipped with a penetrating warhead. Tests have fully confirmed the ability of the LASM rocket to perform assigned combat missions. The US Navy was to receive 1200 LASM missiles. Reach initial operational readiness planned for 2003. But in 2003, the program was allegedly stopped due to lack of funding?! ... And this is in such "fat" years for the Pentagon ... Why would it be ?! LASM tests were successful. Why does the Pentagon not brag about success? And it is only sometimes that information slips out that, as it turns out, for more than a year, SM 2 missiles can destroy targets on the surface of the sea and land at a distance of 500 km. It turns out, the task was completed and over-fulfilled!

"TOMORROW". Amazing modesty!

Sergey ANUCHIN. This is not modesty - this is stealth !!! Ground targets can be struck by a LASM rocket at a range that is 3 – 4 times as far as the interception range of aerial targets with a common SM 2 anti-aircraft missile. 21 February 2008 at 245 km altitude and 450 km removal rocket SM-3 Block IB struck with a direct hit ("hit-to-kill" - "bullet in a bullet"), a failed US military satellite. At the same time, the SM-3 Block IB rocket did not even demonstrate the maximum capabilities - 320 km in altitude at a distance of 780 km. And the SM-3 Block II rocket will have even higher data - it will be able to intercept targets at an altitude of 1000 km at a distance of 1500 km - this is an order of magnitude (10 times) further than it hits SM 2 Block II / III, from which it was made LASM. The technologies developed for the creation of the LASM rocket are also suitable for a different role of the new family of significantly more sophisticated SM 3 rockets. The whole European part of Russia at gunpoint, and even further. The treaty on medium-range and shorter-range missiles has in fact been broken by the United States for a long time!

"TOMORROW". Well, let's say. But how can we hit our secret highly protected targets, even if there are only twelve of them?

Sergey ANUCHIN. With highly accurate destruction of targets, small enough nuclear charges are enough to equip penetrating warheads. The satellite positioning system provides navigation accuracy in 20 – 30 cm horizontally and 50 cm vertically. The penetrating warhead was developed for the SM 2 (LASM) rocket. Recall that in the “Pershing-2” missiles, combat units could penetrate deep into the ground on 50 – 70 m. When a nuclear charge detonates at a depth, a seismic wave will destroy bunkers within a radius of tens of meters. Nowhere not hide. The sheer number of goals - twelve - says that a war can start at any convenient time when a situation arises in which you can guaranteedly remove the first persons from the game in order not to get a retaliatory strike with unacceptable damage for the United States.

"TOMORROW". What else does the world not know about the US strategy in Europe?

Sergey ANUCHIN. The missile defense deployment option in Romania and Poland is the most dangerous for Russia. Cruiser or destroyer missile defense is not easy to quietly closer to the borders of Russia. But the "anti-missiles" in the standard blocks of universal vertical launchers Mk 41 from the territory of these countries will be constantly aimed at us. Moreover, launchers can be mounted, for example, in a standard 40-foot sea container. And such "containers" can be anywhere, for example, in the Baltic States. The container can not be controlled. Ships carry a myriad of them. Any freight train can carry rockets. Shipping containers are transported by cars. Such "containers" can be placed in any transport terminal or simply in stock. Options do not count.
According to political analyst Sergei Markov, according to a secret dispatch of the State Department on the new US military strategy promulgated by WikiLeaks, in the near future only from Germany about 15 thousands of US troops will be redeployed to the territory of Poland and the Baltic States. In total, nine divisions from the USA, Great Britain and Germany will be launched to Poland and the Baltic countries. And in response to the "aggressive actions of Russia", the United States is ready to start building up a naval group in the Baltic Sea. There are already plans to relocate the F 16 fighter jets to the air base in the town of Lask in Poland from the Aviano air base in Italy, which had the main burden of air strikes on the former Yugoslavia. Seven NATO airfields equipped in accordance with NATO standards in Poland are capable of increasing the size of the air force. The Zokniai and Lielvarde airbases were upgraded in Lithuania and Latvia. In February, 2012 of the year in NATO stated that they were ready to conduct military operations from the Emari airbase in Estonia. To ensure the actions of the NATO grouping, another appropriate infrastructure is being created. At the initiative of the Pentagon, NATO Cyber ​​Defense Center was established in Tallinn in 2011. The Energy Security Center in Vilnius was established in 2012. In the plans of 2013, the NATO Center for Strategic Communications in Latvia. In Lithuania, an interdepartmental committee has been established in the interests of the reception and deployment of NATO troops in the country. The exercises are held with the buildup of NATO force groups in Poland, Lithuania and Latvia. All this is in the provision of offensive operations following a sudden first strike.

"TOMORROW". And what, no one sees and does not understand?

Sergey ANUCHIN. Americans act alone - no one, except specifically insiders in the US, knows all the capabilities of missile defense. In no case should the allies know the truth. Perhaps this information Americans hide even from the first persons of Great Britain. Pumping psychosis about the "Russian threat" and, above all, among the eastern members of NATO, the United States uses the allies "in the dark." All before my eyes - "Russian bear". American missile defense - behind the scenes. Moreover, no one thinks about other possibilities of missile defense. The aggressor always carefully conceals the true intentions - without this it is impossible to inflict a sudden crushing first and unanswered blow.

"TOMORROW". What is the possible strategy to protect our territory and our statehood?

Sergey ANUCHIN. 19 June 2013, Putin said that "the first so-called disarming, decapitating strike is possible, and even against nuclear powers." Information he still has. The president set the task: "We cannot allow the balance of the strategic deterrence system to be upset, the effectiveness of our nuclear forces to be reduced." Before that, 17 – 18 of June, was the G8 summit, at which Russia was to be rubbed so that only G7 was left. About this vyaknul to the whole world Canadian. And suddenly silence. Perhaps, our president used in his conversation with Obama lethal information on missile defense? ... But in such a question, you cannot act behind the scenes in the President – ​​President mode and exchange something for something. President Putin is simply obliged to bring information on the so-called American missile defense system to the whole world with extreme clarity. Neither Poland, nor Romania, nor the Baltic countries are likely to want to be the first to burn in a nuclear fire for the sake of the United States. This is the first.
And the second. In the “reform” times in Russia, only two of the four arithmetic actions became “division” and “subtraction”. So we’ve come to the "12 main goals" and the war at any moment! Only once you have mastered the "addition" and "multiplication", you can multiply the number of main goals - only this will save the US from the temptation of unpunished aggression. You can forget about missile defense and you don’t have to agree on anything in your head with anyone. In matters of war and peace, there are no treaty aggressors.

The conversation was led by Andrey FEFELOV


Note Sergey E. Anuchin - aircraft designer.
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  1. Corsair
    Corsair 12 August 2013 07: 56 New
    49
    For a start, Happy Holiday!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 August 2013 08: 16 New
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      Quote: Corsair
      For a start, Happy Holiday!

      Yeah, Serge VAF will come, it will be necessary to congratulate.
      The title of the article is interesting, only the question from the region was smooth on paper ... and the US is ready to be destroyed belay
      1. afire
        afire 12 August 2013 09: 07 New
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        Quote: Corsair
        For a start, Happy Holiday!

        Join drinks
        The article ... let's say this - interestingly, there is an attempt to intimidate, but in vain.
        What do people talk about in the article? About guesses.
        All the cards are in the hands of the heads of state and they are unlikely to tell us about them, the hope for GDP is huge, it is adequately functioning, they are afraid of it, it is cunning, it has emergency moves and options. Therefore, there is nothing to say under the article, because the roots are not visible.
        1. Very old
          Very old 12 August 2013 10: 39 New
          10
          He is the Supreme Commander. In its place. We hope for him. In foreign policy showed confidence and will. It can support the army, contributes to its revival.
        2. strannik595
          strannik595 12 August 2013 10: 51 New
          +9
          I think that in our area of ​​the Arctic Circle, missile mines are both being developed and are being developed, therefore, the US mobile and stationary missile defense systems in Europe will help them a little ...... when the strike goes through the Arctic, especially since they are constantly under ice on alert duty our submarines. Rather, they will twist our hands through the WTO than through the threat of a missile strike
          1. Very old
            Very old 12 August 2013 19: 22 New
            +3
            I can’t forget the "meat-sausage" setting. That was a real headache for the Americans. Yes, the drunk for a glass gave an advantage. It was brilliantly simple, reliable and elusive. It is a pity that it is already impossible to return to the "iron"
            1. Nick
              Nick 12 August 2013 21: 53 New
              +5
              Quote: Old very
              It is a pity that it is already impossible to return to the "iron"

              Studies are underway again on the BZHRK, it is possible that they will return to the "iron"
              1. 77bor1973
                77bor1973 12 August 2013 22: 43 New
                +2
                There, only a suitable rocket needs to be developed and PPD restored.
              2. Very old
                Very old 12 August 2013 23: 37 New
                +3
                Let's hope. The wheel re-wheel did not bother me- SONG!
          2. Igor39
            Igor39 12 August 2013 19: 44 New
            +4
            There is still a system of retaliation "PERIMETER" This is a guaranteed blow to the United States. Nobody knows whether the system works or not, it makes an additional intrigue.
          3. poquello
            poquello 12 August 2013 20: 12 New
            +1
            Quote: strannik595
            I think that in our area of ​​the Arctic Circle, missile mines are both being developed and are being developed, therefore, the US mobile and stationary missile defense systems in Europe will help them a little ...... when the strike goes through the Arctic, especially since they are constantly under ice on alert duty our submarines. Rather, they will twist our hands through the WTO than through the threat of a missile strike

            There are not mines there is even more fun shovel.

            Military aviators with a holiday!
      2. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 12 August 2013 10: 46 New
        +5
        It surprises me more that no one thinks that if a vigorous bomb explodes in the atmosphere, everyone will be raked. Absolutely. those. with their missile defense the Yankees sign a verdict to the whole world.

        P.S. If someone does not understand - try to drop a drop of paint in a glass of water and see how it will blur.
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 12 August 2013 14: 23 New
          +5
          Quote: ShadowCat
          if a vigorous bomb explodes in the atmosphere, they will rake everything.

          They will rake everything, this is not an undeniable fact, only the raids will be different in their effects. Therefore, they do not franticly wave a nuclear club, but consider how much they can use nuclear weapons charges in a minimum and achieve the rest with conventional weapons.
      3. Straus_zloy
        Straus_zloy 12 August 2013 10: 48 New
        10
        who goes for wool runs the risk of returning shorn

      4. eplewke
        eplewke 12 August 2013 14: 44 New
        +2
        no backlash does not exist! Any preventative strike is doomed to failure. A dozen missiles will break through and retaliation will be unacceptable for the United States ... That way, 100 million dead. I don’t think they are ready to sacrifice this. Although I know their government, here you might think ...
        1. Basil123
          Basil123 12 August 2013 19: 36 New
          +4
          no unrequited blow does not exist. Yes, the answer of course will be, but what? in the west layered about the pole ........ and why the heck in Alaska harp. And if you haven’t noticed, we are now trying to be very good and honest, and we are constantly trying to provoke the question. Are they looking for a reason? And the process is accelerating at the same time we begin to pump up the army. It seems that they are carefully confusing us to drag us into Syria now why? And China will not intervene for us in such a conflict, they will try to sit out well and bargain for themselves a bit, by the way, China is also arming sooooo fast. on a horse then they may not have such a chance! hi
          1. Basil123
            Basil123 12 August 2013 22: 24 New
            0
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k4Z541YW3w про обамку прикольно
    2. Very old
      Very old 12 August 2013 10: 33 New
      +6
      And continue: Happy Holiday! AVIATORS, we respect YOU. We hope for YOU!
    3. ilia_narodn
      ilia_narodn 9 February 2015 14: 34 New
      0
      In the event of an attack on us, we will strike at one point in the United States. Just one - to Yellowstone Volcano. Our missiles are already aimed. And ... "goodbye America oh where I will never, goodbye forever" ...
      Therefore, with absolute certainty we can say that there will be no direct attack on us, neither ordinary nor nuclear. It is foolish to start the “big game”, knowing that you will inevitably lose.
  2. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 12 August 2013 07: 58 New
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    hi Dear ... you can talk about the beginning for a long time, and someone asked himself about the "END OF THE PROJECT." And the geyropa will "fall" first ... hi
    1. Very old
      Very old 12 August 2013 10: 42 New
      +1
      Sometimes perplexity slips: they know both in Poland and Romania - the shortest distance, the shortest flight time to THEIR countries
      1. eplewke
        eplewke 12 August 2013 14: 46 New
        +1
        The regiment of iskanders in Kalingrad solves the problem tightly ...
  3. alexng
    alexng 12 August 2013 08: 14 New
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    The US Cala hatched plans for the first disarming strike for a long time and each time these attempts failed, since there are no invulnerable systems. So jackals are rushing about, because there is no certainty that everything will go smoothly and that they themselves won’t get a hat. Moreover, Russia has long been aware of their plans, and is aware, therefore armed.
    1. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 12 August 2013 10: 36 New
      +6
      Quote: alexneg
      The US Cala hatched plans for the first disarming strike for a long time and each time these attempts failed, since there are no invulnerable systems. Here jackals rush about

      The solution to this problem fits into two "OR .. OR."
      OR we will be the first to strike a preventive strike ... which is hardly acceptable ... first of all for Russia ... unless only in case of emergency.
      OR will put Europe on EARS ... as it was done in due time with PERSHINGS .. or more recently in CZECH REPUBLIC. Public opinion, no matter how skeptical they talked about it, is an instrument of public pressure on the power of those who hold ... all the more so under Western democracy ... It is on this "ridge" that we must fight against the militaristic plans of the Amer! And do not spare money on our agents of influence ... to issue the same POLAND or ROMANIA economic proposals of such a level that it is impossible to refuse ... and many more other tools to attract the sympathies of a simple electorate to the idea of ​​not allowing the deployment of missile defense on its territory .... you just need to think carefully, taking into account the local specifics ... the mentality of local residents.
      But the third OR - this is a purely internal matter - to improve defense despite the objections from the liberals, led by KUDRIN!
    2. Airman
      Airman 12 August 2013 11: 15 New
      +9
      Quote: alexneg
      The US Cala hatched plans for the first disarming strike for a long time and each time these attempts failed, since there are no invulnerable systems. So jackals are rushing about, because there is no certainty that everything will go smoothly and that they themselves won’t get a hat. Moreover, Russia has long been aware of their plans, and is aware, therefore armed.

      Want peace, get ready for war. And why don't we put the same missile defense system in the form of Iskanders with new missiles in Cuba? Flight time will be minimized.
      1. matross
        matross 12 August 2013 11: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: Povshnik
        And why don't we put the same missile defense system in the form of Iskanders with new missiles in Cuba?

        So already tried something similar. The Caribbean crisis, a world on the brink of nuclear war and all that ... The idea is not new. It would be nice, but the amers will not allow this. It would have been possible, would have long been located in Cuba and Venezuela and Nicaragua ...
        1. alexng
          alexng 12 August 2013 14: 37 New
          +5
          Duc, probably already in the form of sea containers. And on the way, the bottom blue-eyed. So ... not all cats are Pancake week.
        2. Airman
          Airman 12 August 2013 20: 20 New
          +1
          Quote: matRoss
          [
          So already tried something similar. The Caribbean crisis, a world on the brink of nuclear war and all that ... The idea is not new. It would be nice, but the amers will not allow this. It would have been possible, would have long been located in Cuba and Venezuela and Nicaragua ...

          they were our first missiles, and, in my opinion, they didn’t hide them especially, since they were not even covered with camouflage nets. And Iskander can also be packaged in a sea container.
  4. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 12 August 2013 08: 15 New
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    Neither Poland, nor Romania, nor the Baltic countries are likely to want to burn first in a nuclear fire for the sake of the United States.

    Yes, they know it perfectly. That's just the greed and hatred of these American puppets for Russia outweighs everything and nullifies all human common sense.
    1. Jrvin
      Jrvin 12 August 2013 12: 46 New
      +6
      Well, the countries of Europe are corrupt women who have the money and have it ... that’s all explained and said.
    2. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 12 August 2013 13: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: lewerlin53rus
      Neither Poland, nor Romania, nor the Baltic countries are likely to want to burn first in a nuclear fire for the sake of the United States.

      Yes, they know it perfectly. That's just the greed and hatred of these American puppets for Russia outweighs everything and nullifies all human common sense.


      I do not think that we can speak in the plural. In power in these countries are American puppets, people without their own opinions and voices. They are clearly written to the brain that everything will be fine for the Inkh, and they, in turn, are pursuing an internal policy so that the population does not excite. Correctly the person said - allies are used in the dark.
  5. PPL
    PPL 12 August 2013 08: 19 New
    +5
    Note Sergey E. Anuchin - aircraft designer.

    Thank you for making a note ... lol
    Looks like some aviators already before the holiday began to demolish the roof.
    The Americans act alone - no one except specifically insiders in the United States knows all the capabilities of missile defense. Allies should never know the truth.

    It is amazing, but how then did the probable opponents in the person of the "arrogant" (?) Military expert Anuchin know about this in detail?
    1. Enjoy
      Enjoy 12 August 2013 10: 35 New
      +3
      That's it, why the leadership of Great Britain, France, Germany, Turkey doesn’t know this, what does our “expert” know?))
    2. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 12 August 2013 12: 16 New
      +5
      From there. We have such a place ... We instructed the person to highlight the information so that it became clear - it’s no secret, guys. If something like this is declared by a person in heavy uniform or from the administration, you will have to unwind the flywheels of international reaction, officially write large documents, and so ...
      In general, one or two units of autonomous-based offshore missile systems should be shown, not at the factory, but right on duty. Demonstratively raise them, for example, for prevention. To see. I think it will help a lot ... Well, shake off the dust from the plans (and the corresponding maps) for laying the landmines along the coast of a famous power. Check codes, run tests ... raise the project, in general. We, of course, didn’t lay anything like that! No no no! But ... since there is such progress ...
  6. Gray-haired Siberian
    Gray-haired Siberian 12 August 2013 08: 21 New
    +6
    As a matter of urgency, the Armed Forces and the country must be strengthened! Now, like Stalin, we have no more than 10 years.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 August 2013 08: 46 New
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      Quote: Gray-haired Siberian
      Now, like Stalin, we have no more than 10 years.

      And Stalin didn’t have 10 years before the Second World War, and now looking at how the world goes crazy, we don’t have exactly 10 years.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 12 August 2013 09: 07 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And Stalin didn’t have 10 years before the Second World War, and now looking at how the world goes crazy, we don’t have exactly 10 years.

        And this is alarming, the pace of development in our country so far (?) Is also not "Stalinist"
        1. AleksUkr
          AleksUkr 12 August 2013 17: 11 New
          +5
          10 years we don’t have exactly ...
          Corruption in the country has spread from the top to the very bottom. Fighting corruption - it means for the authorities, to begin to imprison themselves for misconduct. Which is essentially impossible, therefore, the fight against corruption is only declared and imitated.
          You can’t do anything by persuasion, as well as laws like ay-ay-ay for economic crimes. A thief robbing his people, his country, regardless of ranks, ranks and merit, must be in prison!

          BUT THIS RUSSIA DOES NOT CONCERN. DO WE HAVE NO SAME? YEAR!!!

          The defense of the country was strengthened in a peculiar way by serf-servant Serdyukov. Serdyukov and his faithful companion, General Makarov, expelled almost 30% of the officer corps from the army. In the army, completely illegal mass repressions were carried out ... the defense ministry plundered completely, and the investigation has no complaints against Serdyukov.
          1. Naval
            Naval 12 August 2013 18: 29 New
            +5
            A thief robbing his people, his country, regardless of ranks, ranks and merit, must be in prison!

            I would correct a little: "A civil servant robbing his people, his country, regardless of ranks, ranks and merits, should be accused of treason, with all the conclusions and punishments that come from here!
      2. Nitup
        Nitup 12 August 2013 13: 05 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        the world is going crazy

        The world is not going crazy, it is being carefully pushed out of it.
      3. IRBIS
        IRBIS 12 August 2013 13: 54 New
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And Stalin didn’t have 10 years before the Second World War, and now looking at how the world goes crazy, we don’t have exactly 10 years.

        Unfortunately, we do not have Stalin ...
  7. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 12 August 2013 08: 22 New
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    It is unclear why the missile defense system in Europe. it’s nonsense to suggest a blow to the United States through Europe. Assuming a nuclear conflict, a blow to the United States from Russia is much more profitable to strike from the Far East and Siberia through the Pacific Ocean. Or directly from under the water of the submarine. Because the European missile defense is a bluff. Rather, a political game.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 August 2013 08: 48 New
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      Quote: vladsolo56
      . Because the European missile defense is a bluff.

      With a direct warrior between Russia and the USA, some European countries will think 100 times about whether to fight with Russia. And when our missile defense is hit in Europe, Europe will have no choice. Kazlov is dragged to slaughter and that’s it.
      1. vvvvv
        vvvvv 12 August 2013 14: 08 New
        +3
        DO NOT THINK ... In the EU, at all posts, US henchmen such as Saakashvili and Sarkozy, having studied in the United States and then recruited. They will put the EU under attack easily, themselves having dumped a small handful of p.i.ndosia. Or maybe they themselves will be framed - pawns.
    2. a52333
      a52333 12 August 2013 08: 51 New
      +8
      Far East and Siberia across the Pacific
      The shortest is from the north through the north pole. Their own air defense is full of holes.
    3. Tersky
      Tersky 12 August 2013 09: 35 New
      +5
      Quote: vladsolo56
      It is not clear why the missile defense system in Europe

      About two years ago, the journal Foreign Affairs published an article, "The Inevitability of Overwhelming US Nuclear Supremacy." According to this article, the United States, using holes in the Russian system of warning about a nuclear attack, can deliver a disarming strike, while EuroPRO and the US national missile defense intercept 10% of the surviving missiles when they strike back on the continental United States. "According to the logic of this article, there is no EuroPRO the need to be protected from a nuclear attack, and if it can be used to protect against Iran’s dubious nuclear threat, then this is just a free bonus to a rather expensive toy designed for a completely different purpose. ethno, I think you do not need to explain.
    4. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 12 August 2013 12: 23 New
      +3
      No one wants to die duck. There is an option - to play the game in Europe, since they are all ready-made proformatsets. Well, it’s up to the results to decide whether to attack the enemy for destruction or to agree. The transformation of all this abscess of mankind into radioactive slag does not sadden either the Americans or us. A convenient reason to compare - who has more and thicker. And these ... subjects of world politics, yeah ... snatch ...
    5. Nitup
      Nitup 12 August 2013 13: 41 New
      +6
      Quote: vladsolo56
      It is unclear why the missile defense system in Europe. it’s nonsense to suggest a blow to the United States through Europe. Assuming a nuclear conflict, a blow to the United States from Russia is much more profitable to strike from the Far East and Siberia through the Pacific Ocean. Or directly from under the water of the submarine. Because the European missile defense is a bluff. Rather, a political game.

      That is the shortest path for striking the United States - through the North Pole.
      The fact of the matter is that deploying a missile defense system in Europe is not logical. And when some things seem illogical to us, we need to ask ourselves: do we understand the goals of such actions. Maybe there is not a missile defense, but, most likely, not only a missile defense, most likely, this is a continuation of the story with the deployment of Pershing in Europe. Just now the missiles are more advanced and the location is closer to our borders. And about it, it’s necessary because our missiles, if necessary, can fly not only through the North Pole. That is what surrounds us and China from all sides.
      But something tells me that our recent test of supposedly ICBMs, not ICBMs at all, but BRBMs, and it is necessary just for the destruction of missile defense facilities and NATO military infrastructure on the continent.
      MZKT-79291 chassis for a new missile system
  8. darksoul
    darksoul 12 August 2013 08: 22 New
    +6
    No matter how much they build their pro, a point will always play with them. Everyone understands a part will bring down a part will fly, and nobody wants to be the second cherosim
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 August 2013 08: 49 New
      12
      Quote: darksoul
      Everyone understands a part will bring down a part will fly, and nobody wants to be the second cherosim

      Ordinary people understand this, and those who give orders are sitting in powerful bunkers and they do not care what the people of the United States want.
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 12 August 2013 10: 08 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        and those who give orders sit in powerful bunkers

        Yes, they don’t even have to sit in the bunker .. they will be in Switzerland or at that time or somewhere else in their created “island” of no conflict participant ..
        1. Airman
          Airman 12 August 2013 11: 20 New
          +6
          Quote: Scoun
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          and those who give orders sit in powerful bunkers

          Yes, they don’t even have to sit in the bunker .. they will be in Switzerland or at that time or somewhere else in their created “island” of no conflict participant ..

          Switzerland at the same time will fall under the "distribution", neutrality will not help here.
          1. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 12 August 2013 14: 14 New
            +2
            with full exchanges of nuclear weapons in the world there will not be a single place where you can live on the surface so that all this blah blah blah at the expense of unrequited preventive strikes - 5-6 warheads that exploded anywhere in the world will be enough so that in a year two will land on the earth only rats with cockroaches
            1. Nitup
              Nitup 12 August 2013 15: 05 New
              +1
              Quote: zadorin1974
              5-6 warheads rushing anywhere in the world will be enough so that in a year two on the ground only rats with cockroaches will dominate

              You say so, as if there were never nuclear tests in the world, and nothing, we live
  9. shinobi
    shinobi 12 August 2013 08: 22 New
    0
    An article from the category of Sheuv! The mustache is gone! The client leaves, the plaster is removed! In other words, give more money!

    PS: To give money, to punish the spread of alarmist moods.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 August 2013 08: 50 New
      +9
      Quote: shinobi
      punish for the spread of alarmist sentiments.

      In June, 41 were already punished. Or we again stomp to Moscow.
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 12 August 2013 14: 25 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Or we again stomp to Moscow.

        And now we won’t have time to retreat to Moscow, on the “places” we heroically quack from “limited nuclear strikes”. If we miss the moment, when they start to shoot at us.
        1. Naval
          Naval 12 August 2013 18: 48 New
          +3
          Most likely "heroically quack" will have to precision weapons. Europeans are unlikely to let nature spoil. In Libya, they did without nuclear weapons, and a lot of stuff stuffed.
    2. Stiletto
      Stiletto 12 August 2013 09: 23 New
      12
      "Give money, punish the spread of alarmist sentiment."

      ... BuZhRK build, "Perimeter" to modernize, "Iskander" put forward in position. You won’t take Russian "weakly", but here we are, if anything, into the next world we’ll not only grab SysShyA and Geyrope.
      1. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr 12 August 2013 17: 45 New
        +2
        The point is not alarmism, as I understand it. Forecasts are an ungrateful thing, especially in Russia after the Serdyukov reforms. Let us hope that the new military leadership is soberly approaching the assessment of the military-political situation in the world, the situation around Russia ... There is hope that the country's political leadership is looking in the right direction. And the main hope for our soldier, an officer faithfully serving the motherland. EVEN THE ENEMY UNDERSTANDS THIS.
  10. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 12 August 2013 08: 27 New
    +9
    The situation is really like at the beginning of the 41st .. The Anglo-Saxons will not calm down. But they won’t start first. Someone will incite us first .. and that’s a well-known scenario ..
  11. Ivan79
    Ivan79 12 August 2013 08: 34 New
    +7
    In any case, warned - means armed! Or do not need to evaluate the probable opponent.
  12. sasha.28blaga
    sasha.28blaga 12 August 2013 08: 34 New
    +7
    It seems to me that how to do without a ground operation in a war with a state such as Russia. At one gas station you will not pass and you will not fly over the whole territory. Of course, missiles are a good weapon when there are no enemy missiles, and the enemy has missiles and is no worse than the Amer’s, and although the article contains some praise of the enemy’s weapons, Russia has something to answer. Placement of missiles not only on the chassis, but also under water and above water, as well as in the air.
    1. xmel2003
      xmel2003 12 August 2013 09: 06 New
      +5
      And there will be no ground operation ... and there will be no missiles, radars, and decision centers. And even better if several Russian missiles reach their goal, it will be easier to explain to the Western public why a preventive nuclear strike was needed. And in a year or two, the remaining population will be glad to accept foreign aid ... and in front of course there will be "UN" "peacekeeping".
    2. runway
      runway 12 August 2013 09: 11 New
      14
      Why send troops? It is enough to weaken the country, make it dependent on foreign imports, put its leadership at the head of the country and adjust the punitive system within the country in such a way as to neutralize any resistance.
      The system has been tested in many countries around the world. You can live on dividends.
      1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 12 August 2013 09: 49 New
        0
        And they themselves after a retaliatory strike will not go around the world?
        1. vvvvv
          vvvvv 12 August 2013 14: 15 New
          +5
          There is an important plus that you have come across with your thoughts ...
          if there is an exchange of US-Russia attacks, the US will suffer damage and then China will become a leader, which is not in the interests of the United States. Those. the presence of three forces holds back the war between the other two. And we and China have some cooperation and not the fact, what other arrangements are on the sidelines. China will understand that if it does not support Russia, then it will be China's turn ... I believe that the Chinese factor is also significant.
          1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
            GELEZNII_KAPUT 12 August 2013 15: 40 New
            0
            It seems to me that in the event of a nuclear war, strikes will be inflicted on all slightly more technically developed countries, or rather, on objects in these countries! hi
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 12 August 2013 10: 34 New
        +3
        Quote: piston
        Why send troops? It is enough to weaken the country, make it dependent on foreign imports, put its leadership at the head of the country and adjust the punitive system within the country in such a way as to neutralize any resistance.
        The system has been tested in many countries around the world. You can live on dividends.

        Already been ... what
  13. xmel2003
    xmel2003 12 August 2013 08: 41 New
    +8
    This is the first publication on this subject that I meet.
    Already after the SM-2 tests, it was clear that these missiles violated the agreement on intermediate and shorter-range missiles, that they were capable of striking the ground, that they were capable of carrying nuclear blocks, that the improvement of missiles would allow to keep the entire European part of Russia from Barintsev’s waters at gunpoint , Baltic and Black Seas with a minimum flying time, which is already deployed so many missiles that can not intercept the existing air defense system (stupidly missed air defense missiles).
    Why just now talking about it?
    Or in the leadership of the country, stupid people or people are doing something else.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 August 2013 08: 53 New
      +9
      Quote: xmel2003
      Or in the leadership of the country, stupid people or people are doing something else.

      Yes, everyone understands there, but it’s not so simple to restore what was destroyed by Gorbaty, Yeltsin. Plus Serdyukov made his contribution, not to understand what Putin thought appointing him to the post of Defense Ministry.
      1. Nitup
        Nitup 12 August 2013 14: 02 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Plus Serdyukov made his contribution, not to understand what Putin thought appointing him to the post of MO

        I think Putin was wrong and that’s it. Just as Stalin was mistaken, appointing Yezhov to the post of head of the NKVD. After Putin left the presidency, Serdyukov decided that it would go to the edge forever. My version is this
    2. Windbreak
      Windbreak 12 August 2013 10: 26 New
      +2
      How shipborne missiles violate the agreement on missiles of medium and shorter range ground based?
    3. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 12 August 2013 10: 47 New
      +8
      Quote: xmel2003
      Already after the SM-2 tests, it was clear that these missiles violated the agreement on intermediate and shorter-range missiles

      Confused nothing?
      Excerpt from the contract:
      In accordance with the agreement, the parties had to destroy all launchers within three years ground-based installations and missiles with a range of 500 to 5500 kilometers, including missiles in both European and Asian territories of the USSR. This was the first ever agreement on a real reduction of existing weapons. The treaty also provided for inspection procedures for inspectors who were required to monitor the destruction of missiles on the opposite side.

      If you believe what they say about SM-2, then this:
      SM-2 (eng. Standard missile SM-2) - American family anti-aircraft missiles (SAM).
      These missiles are in service with the US Navy's Aegis anti-aircraft missile system.

      (I didn’t lie)

      Again, according to the United States, their missiles are monstrously effective, but as practice shows ... Well, you understand, yes, that it’s hard to believe in the characteristics of US weapons they lie godlessly and Constantly about their characteristics.

      Why am I:
      Firstly, you mixed both cutlets and flies and dog-with-booths in one plate with words about the violation of the contract.
      Secondly, there is no reason to panic - there is a reason for a balanced answer from our side. And this answer is in the form of Yars as well. and in the form of developing a new ICBM.
      And it is precisely according to Yars that there is a violation of the mentioned treaty. But the earpick is drawn to this topic. If the range of the rocket (declared 11000)

      About ships in the seas ... Well, for the umpteenth time!
      Now with one cruise missile strike from the face of the earth all over Russia, now there is a monstrous amount of missile defense ships.

      People! To concentrate such a number of ships capable of intercepting all ICBMs and others like them, you need a very large fleet ..
      And how to hide it? This is not a bag of nuts!
      And bearing in mind the escalation of the forces of a potential "partner" in the waters of the surrounding seas, you can also concentrate your Navy in some interesting places, such as the coastal waters of a "friendly" state.
      1. xmel2003
        xmel2003 29 August 2013 23: 37 New
        0
        Balabol. Learn the materiel. In particular, the performance characteristics of missiles.
  14. optimist
    optimist 12 August 2013 08: 54 New
    10
    Article plus. But there is a lasting impression of deja vu: in the 80s, the USSR was "bred" with "star wars" in exactly the same way. How it ended, I hope everyone remembers ... To hell with the Americans, fight with us, when everything is so done according to their wishes? (In the sense: Russia plays completely according to their rules in the economy, and even our “guarantor” publicly admitted that in the 90s the government was full of CIA agents. He just didn’t specify for some reason where they had gone and who was responsible for it. laughing ) The war is an unpredictable thing: and how the 2nd World Amer ended so far. So, quite possibly, all this noise is for fear. Even if we assume that our “partners” manage to strike and remain unharmed, our country will still need to be occupied. And this, in principle, is impossible, given our territory and population. So everything will continue, as well as the last 22 years: the sale of our resources for candy wrappers and the further degradation of industry, population, infrastructure, etc.
    1. Nitup
      Nitup 12 August 2013 14: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: optimist
      So everything will continue, like the last 22 years: the sale of our resources for candy wrappers and the further degradation of industry, population, infrastructure, etc.

      Well, yes, probably so that things go on like this and we begin to strengthen the army, create fifth-generation aircraft, build submarines, etc. Americans understand that we are doing this for a reason. And in order to get out of the system when there is a “sale of our resources for candy wrappers and further degradation of industry, population, infrastructure, etc.”, you must first, at a minimum, restore the power of the army, which was killed by Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
      1. optimist
        optimist 12 August 2013 15: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Nitup
        Well, yes, probably so that things go on like this and we begin to strengthen the army, create fifth-generation aircraft, build submarines, etc. Americans understand that we are doing this for a reason.

        Not everything is so simple, Dear ... You probably noticed that this “amplification” began to happen after the whole world went around frames with the participation of Hussein and Gaddafi. It seems that it was under their impression that the gdp and K "remembered" about the defense. So it seems that the tops are not worried about the people, but about themselves, their loved ones ... As a staff officer, I can assure you that the scale of the "modernization" of the army is greatly exaggerated And the fact that they show you a zomboyaschik is not entirely true.
        1. Nitup
          Nitup 12 August 2013 15: 34 New
          +1
          Quote: optimist
          Not everything is so simple, Dear ... You probably noticed that this “amplification” began to happen after the whole world went around frames with the participation of Hussein and Gaddafi. It seems that it was under their impression that the gdp and K "remembered" about the defense. So it seems that the tops are not worried about the people, but about themselves, their loved ones ... As a staff officer, I can assure you that the scale of the "modernization" of the army is greatly exaggerated And the fact that they show you a zomboyaschik is not entirely true.

          I do not agree with you, because GPV-2020 was adopted before they overthrew and killed Gaddafi. So, wait and see.
          1. optimist
            optimist 12 August 2013 16: 11 New
            +1
            Quote: Nitup
            I do not agree with you, because GPV-2020 was adopted before they overthrew and killed Gaddafi. So, wait and see.

            You are probably one of those who still believe about the "housing of every Soviet family by the year 2000"?
            Personally, I very much doubt that in the current situation, Russia by 2020 will generally remain within its current borders ...
            1. Nitup
              Nitup 12 August 2013 17: 25 New
              +2
              No, I'm not one of those. And I doubt it, so the alignment must be changed. This is a matter of survival.
  15. niecke
    niecke 12 August 2013 08: 54 New
    12
    as I understand from the article-amers deploy a missile defense system to protect Russia from Europe and Asia !!! all our borders are reliably covered by a missile shield !! and therefore we don’t need deterrence forces! and the army in general is also unnecessary, because ours There are so many good friends in the country who have repeatedly confirmed their good intentions! China (Daman) Japan (Khalkhin Goal) Germany (1914,1941) Italy (...) Romania, Poland, Hungary, Austria, France - in short, solid FRIENDS !!!
  16. Arabist
    Arabist 12 August 2013 08: 54 New
    +3
    Such "experts" should not be allowed close to the military. Too emotional and something, I have very big doubts that the air defense systems can be used on ground and almost all missile defense tests do not cause any particular worries. Downed the satellite? So he moved along a previously known trajectory and never deviated from it. But to intercept the same “Yars” will be more difficult.
    1. Sobol
      Sobol 12 August 2013 10: 52 New
      +5
      Some air defense systems on land can operate in the RK regime - S-300, for example.
      1. Nitup
        Nitup 12 August 2013 14: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: SoboL
        Some air defense systems on land can operate in the RK regime - S-300, for example.

        And the shells can also work on ground targets.
  17. Hort
    Hort 12 August 2013 09: 01 New
    11
    But what about the Perimeter system? It seems that it was said that even in the case of the destruction of command posts and the first persons capable of “pressing a button”, a retaliatory strike is guaranteed?
  18. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 12 August 2013 09: 06 New
    11
    But there are some benefits to a nuclear war? What will the winner get? A radioactive desert? But no one needs rats and cockroaches except for radioactive land, you can’t build any mansions for your girlfriend, you won’t grow potatoes, and no one in your right mind will go there useful extract fossils, because something can fall off from radiation. Yes, even the so-called the "elite" will wait out the nuclear war in comfortable bunkers with guards, clean food, water, etc. Even if they sit there for 20-30 years, but you can’t always rot in the shelter forever, here comes the representative of the "elite" from the bunker and understands what:
    1. There is no more "elite";
    2. Around the desert and devastation;
    3. Neither the police, nor doctors nor psychiatrists are no longer surrounded by anarchy;
    4.No your tricked out Merc with state numbers and a bank account, like a bank either;
    5. A surviving population that has rolled into the Stone Age and who will gladly cut off your head and no “crusts” will help them just wipe off;
    6. In the forest, if you don’t eat it, or if you don’t sunbathe on the beach, because something can come out of the sea and eat you, etc. ...
    Then, perhaps, the "winners" will envy the dead and the "vanquished."
    1. xmel2003
      xmel2003 12 August 2013 09: 26 New
      +5
      1. no need to shoot you in the head to take the wallet, just poke the barrel in the stomach - you will give it yourself.
      2. no one has canceled the "golden meliard."
      3. After Chernobyl, Japanese bombing, the land cleared for decades - low-power nuclear charges lead to less pollution than Chernobyl.
      4. there will be no nuclear war as a current one - there will be a disarming strike - 50 - 80 explosions of 10 kT each (less pollution or comparable to Chernobyl) plus conventional high-precision weapons.
      1. max702
        max702 12 August 2013 13: 24 New
        +4
        But I do not agree! In Chernobyl, the roof of one of the reactors was leaky, and what didn’t seem to happen? And if all 4 blocks fell apart (which is very likely to be bombed even with conventional weapons), will the earth be cleared? But will you live there? Yes, and with your family? Watch the old Soviet film "Letters of a Dead Man", such a picture will be applied. Yes, and who will restore everything, again remember Chernobyl, a huge country at the peak of its power in peacetime was bothered to do that or with this problem, and here you expect to solve these problems are much more numerous in the conditions of complete devastation and military conflict! How do you imagine that? Truly the living will envy the dead ...
        1. xmel2003
          xmel2003 29 August 2013 23: 46 New
          0
          I live. Understand the reactors no one will shoot. And nobody will restore anything. They will take control of what is possible, but with an infected person they will wait 10-20 years until the "dust" settles.
      2. Nitup
        Nitup 12 August 2013 14: 30 New
        +4
        Quote: xmel2003
        there will be no nuclear war, as there is a current one — there will be a disarming strike - 50 - 80 explosions of 10 kT each (less pollution or comparable to Chernobyl) plus conventional high-precision weapons.

        In addition, nuclear strikes will not be at the places of mining, which are of the greatest interest to our "partners".
    2. Stiletto
      Stiletto 12 August 2013 09: 28 New
      13
      [quote = Standard Oil] Does nuclear war have any benefits? What will the winner get? Radioactive desert?

      Unfortunately, the Amer is prettier than another hypothesis - the example of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The bombing was, yes. But now people who are ready to kiss their "benefactors" in the ass live on the site of the former nuclear ashes. With Russia, they want a repetition of something like that. However, the Yankees mentality is not taken into account. In a case of trouble, we will confidently proceed to the "reduction of the States." In any case, I really want to hope so.
      1. Arabist
        Arabist 12 August 2013 09: 50 New
        +2
        Not only does the mentality not be taken into account, but the fact that the power of nuclear weapons after Hiroshima and Nagasaki has grown dozens, and in some missiles, a hundred times.
      2. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil 12 August 2013 09: 52 New
        +7
        In my opinion, no one can accurately say about the consequences of massive nuclear bombing, only theoretically. Yes, you should not forget about the retaliatory strike against the United States, roughly speaking, they will launch 100 charges, they will hit 90, but 10 will fly and 10 American cities will multiply by zero, and for Americans who are not accustomed to the ruins on their own land are a shock and most likely the collapse of the entire economy. Yes and there are different bombs, maybe there are some, after which it’s enough to sweep it all, but there are those who are better off not to approach the epicenters of the explosion for another 200-300 years at least. The Germans have nothing to do with their country, everything has to be reconciled, one has to put up with the consequences of "democratization", and the fact that Mr. Truman is not recognized as a war criminal in Japan at least is really strange. Although the Japanese, as a nation, "broke" like the French used to be carefully licking the butt of Adolf and not daring to blather against any tricks of the Germans, in particular the relationship of German soldiers with French women, although maybe they just liked it ...
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  20. pensioner
    pensioner 12 August 2013 09: 10 New
    +7
    Oh, Ascetic is gone! Could great comment on this article. Maybe just asymmetrical sculpt something ...
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 12 August 2013 14: 48 New
      +5
      Quote: retired
      Oh, Ascetic is gone! Could great comment on this article.

      Yes, we are missing him today, for a generalization of the general aspirations of a conclusion. Ahhh! ASKET where are you? give us a quick one, otherwise we are all tired of trying on our deaths here. crying request what
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 12 August 2013 14: 55 New
        +2
        Well ... Cosmos also commented great on the article. Thank you so much! But Ascetic is still not enough! request
  21. Nitarius
    Nitarius 12 August 2013 09: 14 New
    +7
    Getting ready! Not just because the GDP drove the troops east!
    It feels like the calm before the storm!
    The Chinese and America concluded a non-aggression pact until 2022! therefore, it is necessary to hurry with the re-equipment.
    Tanks with new weapons, nuclear submarines, etc.
    1. Nitup
      Nitup 12 August 2013 14: 33 New
      +3
      Quote: Nitarius
      The Chinese and America concluded a non-aggression pact until 2022! therefore, it is necessary to hurry with the re-equipment.
      Tanks with new weapons, nuclear submarines, etc.

      Can I link to an article about the pact?
  22. valokordin
    valokordin 12 August 2013 09: 19 New
    +1
    An asymmetric response is needed, mobilization of industrial and defense resources is necessary, which our "democratic" authorities are not capable of. They can only plant patriots and fine corrupt officials.
  23. Krsk
    Krsk 12 August 2013 09: 22 New
    +4
    So it was already ... They also considered them invincible, but what ended? Pisses want the next 700 years to live in bunkers? Well, we don’t need someone else’s, but we won’t give up ours either ...
  24. Nayhas
    Nayhas 12 August 2013 09: 25 New
    10
    The question itself is "Are the US ready to destroy Russia?" gives rise to a counter question, “Why?”, to which no one will answer. If the United States decided to “destroy” Russia, then economic leverage would be enough. Enough to carry out a trade embargo and Russia will collapse. Agriculture is destroyed and Russia itself will not feed itself, industry will finally wither away, the lack of petrodollars will put an end to the ambitions of the so-called elite, which is so used to luxury in any part of the world that the prospect of repeating the fate of the DPRK Jucheists will force them to whiten Obama’s ass with their own tongues.
    PS: As Z. Brzezinski said, “Russia can have any number of nuclear suitcases and nuclear buttons, but since the 500 billion dollars of the Russian elite are in our banks, you still figure it out: is it your elite or ours already? I don’t see a single situation in which Russia will use its nuclear potential. " I think this phrase answers many questions, so breaking the spears at the expense of missile defense makes no sense.
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 12 August 2013 09: 46 New
      +7
      Rumors of my death are greatly exaggerated (c)
      The same China will put on the embargo as nefig do.
      And Europe will begin to degrade without our hydrocarbons.
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 12 August 2013 09: 49 New
        +3
        How China uses the embargo for its own purposes is visible to everyone in Iran. Suppose Russia can sell oil and gas to China on their terms, but who will feed Russia? China itself buys food, he will not feed Russia. Otherwise, Russia loses its sovereignty and becomes a province of China, i.e. same.
    2. optimist
      optimist 12 August 2013 10: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: Nayhas
      The question itself is "Are the US ready to destroy Russia?" gives rise to a counter question, “Why?”, to which no one will answer. If the United States decided to “destroy” Russia, then economic leverage would be enough. Enough to carry out a trade embargo and Russia will collapse. Agriculture is destroyed and Russia itself will not feed itself, industry will finally wither away, the lack of petrodollars will put an end to the ambitions of the so-called elite, which is so used to luxury in any part of the world that the prospect of repeating the fate of the DPRK Jucheists will force them to whiten Obama’s ass with their own tongues.

      Gold words! Amer did everything 22 years ago, destroying the USSR, Soviet Power and setting his watchmen: ebna, and then gdp. So let the forum relax: there will be no war, for we have already lost it a long time ago. And the fact that NATO tanks (so far!) Do not drive NATO tanks means nothing ...
    3. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 12 August 2013 14: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: Nayhas
      : is it your elite or is it already ours?

      So take it (the elite) with billions of these candy wrappers for yourself and with the fact that they bought these candy wrappers from you there, and OUR will remain with us in Russia. lol
  25. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 12 August 2013 09: 30 New
    +8
    Judging by how the US screams louder and louder that Russia is returning during the Cold War, the Yankees are embarrassing. They are intensively developing hypersonic missiles, which no one can fight with now. Improving high-precision weapons, which in its parameters approaches nuclear weapons. And at the same time it creates a missile defense, the elements of which they are trying to deploy throughout the globe. If the confrontation between the USSR and the USA was based on an ideological front, then in the 21 century, Americans are trying to eliminate Russia from participating in the solution of all controversial issues in world politics. There is only one conclusion: America wants to rule the world and personally decide the fate of the world. Hitler dreamed the same thing. Everyone knows how it ended.
  26. Shep
    Shep 12 August 2013 09: 36 New
    +2
    Interesting! But there are twigs of submarines that probably walk regularly around North America. They have no nuts to twist on the forest :)
  27. mabuta
    mabuta 12 August 2013 09: 37 New
    +4
    And in response to "Russia's aggressive actions"

    Here he is right. For all our progress, in re-equipping the Armed Forces, for brainwashed Geyropei brains, this is “Russian aggression”. We need articles in the euronet: "who will burn first" The Czech Republic changed its mind.
  28. bootlegger
    bootlegger 12 August 2013 09: 43 New
    +8
    An interesting article, but the capabilities of the SM 3 missile are clearly overrated.
    It can’t effectively hit ground targets at 1000 km and that’s why.
    With their dimensions: with a diameter of 0,343 and a length of 6,55 m, it will have a starting mass of a maximum of 1,5 tons, which is clearly not enough to strike a high-speed hyperballistic trajectory, and even with anti-aircraft maneuvers.
    Rocket Iskander, its performance characteristics, is enough only for such a strike at 500 km.
    TTX OTRK Iskander
    Rocket launch weight: 3 kg
    Warhead Weight: 480 kg
    Length 7,2 m
    Diameter 920 mm
    Of course, SM can hit a ground target at such a distance, but it will hit an economical ballistic trajectory. In this case, the warhead of the missile will be small and the flight time, like a conventional medium-range missile, will be about 15 minutes.
    But the article is in principle correct.
    1. Sobol
      Sobol 12 August 2013 11: 04 New
      +1
      But what about the P-500 for the Iskander? It seems they are talking about 2500 km range.
      1. bootlegger
        bootlegger 12 August 2013 11: 14 New
        +3
        There, we are already talking about Iskander in the version of the Kyrgyz Republic, and about subsonic speed.
        Judge for yourself the Tomahawk with mass-dimensional parameters comparable to SM beats a maximum of 1600-2500 km. And of course on the sound.
        And the author is trying to assure us that similar range parameters are achievable on supersonic and hyper-ballistic trajectories.
    2. xmel2003
      xmel2003 30 August 2013 00: 07 New
      0
      And it is unnecessary for her to carry a warhead of 500 kg - 100 kg is enough. With its power-to-weight ratio, it will easily throw at 1000 km. So for this purpose, it was designed to destroy KP and launch sites. I am sure of this and there is its anti-missile defense.
  29. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 12 August 2013 09: 46 New
    10
    "Moreover, launchers can be mounted, for example, in a standard 40-foot sea container. And such" containers "can be found anywhere, for example, in the Baltic states. It is impossible to control the container. Vessels carry a myriad of them. Any freight train can be missile carrier. Sea containers are also transported by automobiles. Such "containers" can be placed in any transport terminal or just in a warehouse. There are no options. "
    We have also developed such "container transportation". And it would not hurt to deploy its “asymmetric response” in Cuba and Venezuela, and restore the status quo in Kamchatka, as in Soviet times.
    "... about 15 thousand US troops will be redeployed to Poland and the Baltic states. In total, nine divisions from the USA, Great Britain, and Germany will be advanced to Poland and the Baltic countries."
    It is necessary to deal with deliveries of modified meat products to these areas so that American soldiers are smashed to such an extent that they cannot squeeze into the cockpits of control centers and launch complexes - this would also be an "asymmetric response" to possible threats wassat
  30. Alexander borey
    Alexander borey 12 August 2013 09: 49 New
    10
    Disarm Russia for a retaliatory nuclear strike at this stage as a result of BSU can no one, not a single country, not a single weapon. The USA is no exception. A significant part of strategic objects, but not all, can be destroyed. And the remaining forces will be enough to erase the States from the face of the Earth. But you need to beat the alarm now, then it will be too late. Quit the START Treaty and the INF Treaty and the Seabed Treaty.
    To begin mass production of the INF and to send them to NATO bases in Europe and Asia. With JLL itself, so as not to entertain themselves with the illusions of impunity. On ICBMs, increase the power of warheads and the number of nuclear units. Our long-range strategists should also be on combat duty with full combat load (now, according to the START, one of our long-range bomber can carry no more than 1 (one !!!) RC with nuclear warheads. go out and use our defense and strike potential to its full potential. As they say - to avoid. The first persons of Russia in any case will have time to hide in the bunker and give the order for return destruction. To secret all information about the number of our nuclear warheads and carry them s, including tactical nuclear weapons.
    This is an incomplete set of measures to prevent the temptation of the enemies of Russia (the United States, the English and the Saxon) to try to destroy our homeland and you and me.
    PS We look forward to the new BZHRK and PAK YES. They will become an additional weighty argument for Russia and will strengthen the defense-strike potential of our Fatherland. Happy Russian Air Force holiday! soldier
    1. Egen
      Egen 12 August 2013 10: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: Alexander Borey
      This is an incomplete set of measures to prevent the temptation of the enemies of Russia (the United States, the English and the Saxon) to try to destroy our homeland and you and me

      In, at least offers! and then in the article only threats, and why do something, is not clear.
      In principle, combat patrols are the Americans themselves, yes, have they come up with? Well, it doesn’t matter who, it has not been canceled, well, the approach time has been reduced, the new introductory ones, to rework our measures to accelerate the answer, what revolutionary happened here, that the article almost panic ...
      1. Alexander borey
        Alexander borey 12 August 2013 10: 51 New
        +2
        Exits from the above Treaties are a huge component of strengthening Russia's defense capabilities. Because of them, we CANNOT PROTECT OUR COUNTRY as required by the current situation in the world. We are in chains.
        Threat assessment should be carried out at least once a year and not be disclosed. Do missiles and nuclear weapons for anything (protection from UFOs, meteorites, etc.). Turn on the fool, in other words. Formally - do not complain, let them think what they want. In an extreme case, directly call the United States and its satellites ENEMIES.
    2. a52333
      a52333 12 August 2013 13: 15 New
      +3
      In any case, the first persons of Russia will have time to hide in the bunker and give the order for reciprocal destruction.
      It's not obligatory:
      PETER BELOV, Doctor of Engineering: In the Soviet Union, the so-called “dead hand system” was developed. What does it mean? In case the country becomes the target of a nuclear missile attack and the commander-in-chief cannot make a decision, among the intercontinental Soviet missiles were those that could be launched by the signal of the radio command system.

      With the help of a complex network of sensors for seismic activity, air pressure and radiation, a “dead hand system" could trigger a nuclear arsenal in the event of a nuclear strike against the USSR - without anyone having to press the red button.
      If there was no connection with the Kremlin, and computers were diagnosed with a deadly atomic strike, the missiles would still be launched, giving the Soviet Union the opportunity to strike back post mortem, that is, posthumously.
      1. Alexander borey
        Alexander borey 12 August 2013 13: 53 New
        0
        Quote: a52333
        With the help of a complex network of sensors for seismic activity, air pressure and radiation, a “dead hand system" could trigger a nuclear arsenal in the event of a nuclear strike against the USSR - without anyone having to press the red button.
        Keyword - could.
        The "dead hand" is the same system "Perimeter" ceased to exist in 1995.
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 12 August 2013 18: 59 New
          +1
          The perimeter was revived in 2008 and went through modernization in 2011. so it could not, but maybe.
          1. Alexander borey
            Alexander borey 12 August 2013 20: 08 New
            0
            This information is incorrect, to say the least. The Perimeter system was destroyed, command missiles were cut, nobody revived it. Here, even a dispute is inappropriate. Unfortunately, but it is.
            1. Rus2012
              12 August 2013 20: 19 New
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Borey
              This information is incorrect, to say the least. The Perimeter system was destroyed, command missiles were cut, nobody revived it. Here, even a dispute is inappropriate. Unfortunately, but it is.

              .
              no need to escalate!
              A whole regiment of command missiles is in Yurye!
              "In December of the 1990 year, in the 8th missile division (Yurya village), a regiment (76th RP, military unit 49567, BSP-3) took command under the command of Colonel S. I. Arzamastsev with a modernized command missile system, "Perimeter-RC", which includes a command missile, created on the basis of the ICBM RT-2PM "Topol." - http://www.russianarms.ru/forum/index.php/topic,8727.0.html

              And that’s it! We won’t discuss this topic anymore !!!
              The guys are on duty, the system is armed ... and everything is under the stamp!
              1. Alexander borey
                Alexander borey 12 August 2013 20: 46 New
                0
                I am not escalating, but stating a fact that has long been known to everyone. But you are misleading people. You have data for 1990.
                The command missile system with the 15A11 missile was on combat duty until 1995, when, as part of the START-1 agreement, the complex was withdrawn from combat duty. This happened on September 1, 1995, when the 7th missile regiment, armed with command missiles, was removed from duty and disbanded in the 510th Missile Division (Vypolzovo town). On this, the fate of the "Perimeter" was cut short, there are no "vultures", no need to invent. The execution of DSNV-1 was strictly and vigilantly monitored by American inspectors, first of all they demanded the destruction of command missiles, all to one. Which was done under the vigilant control of the United States. Without them, the "Perimeter" cannot exist. Yeltsin’s team readily made all concessions. After this, to this day, there are no projects to revive this system. I don’t need to give different links, I know what I'm talking about.
                Quote: Rus2012
                The guys are on duty, the system is armed

                What kind of guys? What is the duty? What are you speaking about? Do not fantasize.
                1. Arabist
                  Arabist 12 August 2013 21: 13 New
                  +1
                  Oh really? Have you checked everything yourself?
                2. Rus2012
                  13 August 2013 20: 52 New
                  0
                  Quote: Alexander Borey
                  What kind of guys? What is the duty? What are you speaking about? Do not fantasize.

                  ... and follow the link weakly?
                  http://www.russianarms.ru/forum/index.php/topic,8727.0.html
                  "3 rp with BSP-76 and 304 rp with BSP-31 were additionally transferred to BSP-776 (18 rp), and 79 rp (BSP-17) and 107 rp (BSP-41) were disbanded.
                  At the site, only the shift on duty, everything else on the territory of the former Higher School of Management, is carried only on a monthly schedule.
                  They are on duty, go to the fields, though to close training positions.
                  Command missiles, which is probably why in all sources the Yuryansk division has been removed from the strategic nuclear forces. "

                  Composition of the 8-th rd, military unit 44200, according to the state of 2012 of the year
                  :
                  76 missile Kirov regiment, military unit 49567, call sign "Touch":
                  1 and 2 GPP - 1 Division
                  3 GPP and GBU - 2-th division
                  304 Guards Red Banner Missile Regiment, military unit 21649, callsign "Graduate":
                  4 and 5 GPP - 1 Division
                  6 GPP and GBU - 2-th division
                  776 missile regiment, military unit 68546, call sign "Galtel":
                  7 and 8 GPP - 1 Division
                  9 GPP and GBU - 2-th division
                  93 one (separate support division), military unit 31524
                  20 mustache, military unit 42800
                  2434 tank, military unit 12829
                  1754 ISB, military unit 44185
                  N-th rifle (separate guard and reconnaissance battalion), military unit 66593
                  809 Parm, military unit 44200-T
                  866 ogrsbus, military unit 44200-С
                  1762 vg (military hospital), military unit 41464
                  N-th military base (logistics support base), military unit 44200-B
                  45 etk (operational-technical commandant's office), military unit 61684


                  and that's it! Basta! Further this topic is TABU !!!
                3. Rus2012
                  13 August 2013 22: 19 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Alexander Borey
                  The command missile system with the 15A11 missile stood on alert until the 1995 of the year

                  ... and you know, dear colleague, that besides 15A11 there are other command missiles?
                  For example, there was the 15P656 "Horn" - a mobile ground missile complex of command missiles 15Ж56 based on the "Pioneer".
                  And there is - PGRK 15П175 "Siren" based on the "Poplar" of the Kyrgyz Republic 15Ж75, which even now stands on the database. Source - http://www.russianarms.ru/forum/index.php/board,233.0.html
  31. Manager
    Manager 12 August 2013 09: 50 New
    +9
    Hello everyone! We must not forget that the United States is quite strong in attack, but not in defense. They practically do not exist on the territory of air defense (someone said that they have all air defense along with the army traveling around the planet). Therefore, a blow to the United States through Europe does not make sense. The main thing here is competent intelligence work and timely information about the beginning of the US offensive. In this case, our submarines would be enough to turn North America into hell, and then the countries of South America will be happy to help us. At the same time, point strikes must be destroyed, the whole missile defense system in the European part, and the Amer fleet destroyed. This is essentially all. And with something back, I feel that this is exactly what will happen if something happens. Oh yes, I forgot about China. These guys at this moment will be busy with the Japanese.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 12 August 2013 10: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: Manager
      Oh yes, I forgot about China. These guys at this moment will be busy with the Japanese.

      With great pleasure. And the Japanese should like it ...
    2. silver_roman
      silver_roman 12 August 2013 11: 04 New
      +1
      I agree. I will support the idea with their fleet. It is well known that its backbone is AUG. there are 10 of them today. A couple in the Gulf region, sometimes in the Mediterranean or the Atlantic sometimes, a couple under the belly of China, a couple floundering at home. so it’s necessary to suppress such “fish” with dynamite ... 20-50 kilotons of dynamite per head is enough, considering that in fact they swim closely with the whole movement closely.

      and by the way about the defense of the states, I also wrote somehow that they were not used to it. about 2 weeks ago he raised the topic for the creation of an independent shock group that would work directly across the states. it is clear that she would meet fierce resistance, but a blow to the enemy’s heart would already cause a certain panic. it’s one thing to bomb Libya when order is on your continent, and it’s another thing to fight a nuclear Great Power when a couple of divisions land somewhere on the Pacific coast.
    3. alekseinew
      alekseinew 12 August 2013 12: 23 New
      +4
      oh, I don’t know, in your words, but I think these donkeys overseas are also not stupid, but I think that in such a situation only the total destruction of missile defense in Europe will help better with the countries where it is located so that they would not interfere then live looking at the casualties among the civilian population, its own skin is more expensive and at the same time a massive response in the direction of the United States, if only we could do it all
    4. a52333
      a52333 12 August 2013 13: 26 New
      +3
      http://topwar.ru/18852-raketnyy-kompleks-club-k-kritika-i-perspektivy.html
      Asymmetric response,
  32. Egen
    Egen 12 August 2013 10: 00 New
    +5
    And what?
    About the possibility of offensive use of missile defense and the fool was clear. About the capabilities of specific missiles - not everyone, but who knows the possibilities - 1 + 1 could be folded for a long time. The article put a few on the shelves, although again not all, confirmations by TTX, availability, etc. no, therefore the degree of threat is not clear. Simply, you can’t fight with one missile :) Well, these are trifles.
    The most important thing from here is what to do? Why are xnumx goals and the rest? Is everything so centralized here? But what about mobile complexes, for example? And our "container" answer why can not it be? In general, there are some facts that give rise to questions for which there are no answers.
    The only thing I definitely understood :)
    In any case, in response to 12 attacks from Europe, we at least have time to answer from Siberia. Then from Europe there will be only Canaries :). I realized that the US doesn't give a damn about Europe. Tsk, sacrifice a knight to get the queen down.
    But so what next? The United States will remain 1 at 1 with China - which is even worse than a multipolar world. Well, you can also fill up China. But then the field will generally remain empty - what should America do on it? There are no people to point out external enemies, there is nowhere to put production - the primitive communal system will be shorter :)
    In general - garbage turns out. As Ivanovitch correctly pointed out, then it’s better to erase North America from the map than such a big mainland :) I think, those who pull the strings, they understand it ... Although, maybe they are just sick there, they have power over the world who you want crazy It’s not for nothing that there are so many Napoleons and Hitlers in the wards :))
  33. Nevsky
    Nevsky 12 August 2013 10: 14 New
    +4
    After reading the article, I remembered the good old Soviet film.

    laughing Song about world hooligans of the USA, England and Israel:

  34. yurii p
    yurii p 12 August 2013 10: 23 New
    +2
    Indeed, until recently, in Russia there was no meaningful idea of ​​the level of danger of the American missile defense system. There was only a certain intuitive alarm ... -.............. this indicates the level of our military advisers to the president and the level of representatives of the general staff, and if the level of these officials is consistent, then the question is whether this is subversive activity, to the detriment of Russia.
  35. Stahlegewitter
    Stahlegewitter 12 August 2013 10: 45 New
    -1
    Too yellow article. Many arguments are far-fetched.
    Similar attacks in the style of "everything is lost, the enemy near the borders" have long been countered by one argument. To identify the concentration of striking forces at dangerous lines is a regular task for scouts. Moreover - to identify preparations for this concentration. Based on the fact that this site is a military and not a political review, we assume that in case of opening preparations for an attack, our general staff will make a strong-willed decision and transfer the troops to the desired degree of combat readiness, give an order for a preventive strike. The enemy understands this logic, and therefore does not dare to aggression.
    Blind intelligence? Please, but immediately get the full response.
  36. Perch_xnumx
    Perch_xnumx 12 August 2013 10: 47 New
    +5

    In Soviet historical sources, as a rule, the name "Dropshot" was used in Russian letters without translation:

    At the direction of the government, a committee of chiefs of staff since 1949 developed a war plan code-named "Dropshot", in the interest of secrecy, the name is intentionally meaningless. [1]

    However, in our time sometimes there are also translations of the name: Instant strike, Short strike, Last shot.
    Plan Details [edit | edit source]

    The plan was based on the assumption that "Soviet aggression" would occur in 1957.

    He envisaged four phases of the war:

    1) Defense against the Soviet offensive in Western Europe at the Rhine-Alps-Piave border, defense against the Soviet invasion of the Middle East through Iran and Turkey, defense against the Soviet invasion of Japan while simultaneously bombing with atomic and conventional bombs on objects in the USSR, allies in the occupied territories of the USSR.

    On April 1, 1949, the United States planned to launch a massive nuclear strike against the USSR. It was planned to drop 300 nuclear bombs on 70 Soviet cities and 250 thousand tons of conventional bombs. It was planned to drop 8 nuclear bombs into Moscow. Attacks were planned in Omsk, Krasnoyarsk, Tashkent, Alma-Ata, Tbilisi, Novosibirsk. According to American generals, 2.7 million people were supposed to die after the first bombing. The country should have lost 30-40% of its economic potential. American experts recognized the inefficiency of atomic strikes against the Army, so the main blow should have been directed primarily against the civilian population.

    2) Continuing air strikes, continuing defense, intensifying psychological and economic war, underground struggle in the Soviet rear.

    3) A massive offensive in Europe with the aim of cutting off and destroying Soviet troops, continuing the offensive for forcing the USSR to surrender.

    4) The occupation of the territory of the USSR and its allies. [2]


    Has anything changed since then? You need to remember who is in power, people are the same as before and after World War II. As before, Russia is the number one enemy for the United States and NATO. The Americans are building an infrastrura to protect themselves from a retaliatory nuclear strike: these are elements of a missile defense system, as well as the first sudden and lightning strike. Anti-missiles are actually ballistic missiles, the option of equipping them with nuclear warheads is a completely viable option that you need to keep in mind. Winners are not judged if the world suddenly wakes up and faces a fact.
  37. SPACE
    SPACE 12 August 2013 10: 49 New
    11
    Here in this article there is something to seriously think about and reason ...
    What is the American missile defense? This is a missile defense system, with the ability to work on airplanes, satellites i.e. to carry out the functions of including and air defense. The Aegis, Thaad missile defense systems are based on the principle of kinetic interception, i.e. instead of the warhead is a blank, which is supposed to hit exactly on target. Look at the parameters of the SM-3 rocket, diameter 30cm, length 6m, three stages and altitude 250 km, what weight can the disc have? I think no more than 30-50 kg.
    Suppose there are three options for its use:
    1. Intercepting an attacking warhead from near space. No one canceled the problems, very high rates of convergence and the reaction time of the system, or lag. It is necessary to constantly calculate the trajectory and speed, transmit a signal to the rocket and still time to adjust the rocket itself. Not a single system, even the fastest, has the ability to predict the behavior of the target, unless we are dealing with linear laws, this is when the speed is constant and the trajectory is known, then the place and time of the meeting can be predicted, this is the physics of the 5 class. And if the target is maneuvering, not linear parameters, then everything becomes complicated many times over, and if there is also a massive attack, then put out the light. And there are still problems of radar, guidance is due to ground-based radars, space systems and a homing head, Americans do not have exclusive rights to electromagnetic waves, there are many ways to insert sticks into wheels, these are electronic warfare equipment, etc. The possibility of this interception is mathematically very close to zero. And they know about it both here and there. If anyone is not in the know, explain the problems of creating A-35 and 135, and their conclusions, by the way, the first interception is still 1961.
    2. The second follows from the first: Understanding the low efficiency and reliability of intercepting BBs, they began to move anti-missiles closer to the borders and develop the marine component, so that they could no longer intercept warheads but launch missiles, here the chances increase, but again, large distances to the location of missile silos and on its territory it is even easier to provide radio suppression. This creates big problems for the strategic submarine fleet, but even on takeoff it is possible to nullify the missile defense, before launching, provide for the detonation of an electromagnetic bomb at altitudes of 50 km, which will lead to a malfunction in the operation of all electronic guidance systems and allow the missiles to freely ascend to the stage of separation of the RFM.
    3. And the second follows from the second, but it seems to me the main and planned from the very beginning. This is an opportunity to replace tactical warheads and interceptors with a tactical warhead and strike already directly at the object of strategic defense. There is no point in talking about replacing with a conventional warhead, such a small amount of explosives is capable of scratching the shaft cover. It is precisely this danger, including, especially when deployed in Europe, and this “easy movement of the hand” that turns this complex from defensive to offensive and brings us back to the time of 80 to deploy the Pershing and the problem of flight time. As a result, we have a dual-purpose system and no guarantees, who knows what they have loaded in the cells on ships and mines, and the mosquito will not undermine the nose, since the system actually has defense properties, which is officially announced and promoted. I believe the military has always been aware of this, maybe it’s why Voronezh is being built ...

    Z.Y. If thieves pick up keys in your open door, what is their intention? What to do? Change locks or go out and give mounting on the head?
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 12 August 2013 15: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: SPACE
      give mounting on the head?

      I like commercials more. angry
  38. silver_roman
    silver_roman 12 August 2013 10: 57 New
    +8
    I am always anxious about rumors, especially such rumors.
    the stump is clear that most of the information in this article is designed to be intimidating, but as they say: "there is no smoke without fire."
    and yet for Monday morning infa is not much depressing.

    and on the topic: if you look at history, then our country, all our statehood, foreign policy has always unconditionally carried a defensive position. It is extremely rare and then - locally we took any action. In the opposite vein, we can say about our overseas "partners and friends."
    We can have arbitrarily powerful air defense and the most advanced ballistic missiles, but still somewhere, on the sidelines of the Moscow Region and the General Staff there should be a directive that will not give the enemy a chance of survival in the event of a global war.
    how at one time in the USSR there was an idea to send a civilian tanker - a hydrogen bomb to destroy syshya. maybe it's a fairy tale, maybe not, but the idea, and most importantly, a plan for a crushing blow should be.
    If the aggressor has repeatedly manifested itself, trained in small, truly independent states, then he may well do it again, but with us.
    As for me, the solution to this issue could be newly launched trains with nuclear weapons, which, like the Voivode, plunged Amer hawks into horror. and then there will be at least 12 goals.
    ps I didn’t want and I’m not going to panic, but nevertheless there is alarm for my Homeland ... especially against the backdrop of the militarization of the entire planet.
  39. chenia
    chenia 12 August 2013 11: 01 New
    +7
    NOT, America will not fight with Russia, yet. As long as there is China. Here is the primary goal. And the star-strikers will do everything to collide Russia and China, This is in English-skunsky.
  40. gregor6549
    gregor6549 12 August 2013 11: 03 New
    +2
    Another bullshit. No “super duper" missile defense is capable of protecting either the United States or Russia from a massive raid of all types of missiles in service with Russia and the United States.
    Some single missiles of the missile defense system may be intercepted, but the remaining ones will be enough to finish off each other and stop such discussions forever.
    And those who are supposed to understand this in both countries understood and understand this. Therefore, all these horror stories about what the missile defense allegedly violate the strategic balance, parity, etc. come up with for one purpose: to frighten the taxpayer to death and make him fork out. And there is someone to cut the money. And sawing. It always has been, it is happening now, it will continue to be so.
    Therefore, it is not necessary, as Misha Zhvanetsky, the person on duty in the country, said, to exhaust either side of the fearlessness of his fearlessness. Useless!!! You just need to live by yourself and let others live. And the fact that someone in the Barack or in the Kremlin from time to time begins to quarrel and scare each other is because of the thoughtlessness of the arrogant and naive faith in science fiction stories of their military and other advisers. And with naivety, as well as with innocence, you need to leave on time.
    1. mihasik
      mihasik 12 August 2013 12: 12 New
      +6
      And the fact that someone in the Barack or in the Kremlin from time to time begins to quarrel and scare each other is because of the thoughtlessness of the arrogant and naive faith in science fiction stories of their military and other advisers. And with naivety, as well as with innocence, you need to leave on time.

      What is it all about? If Saak’s tower was torn off in 2008 with his microscopic army (he doesn’t even have a hint of nuclear weapons), do you think that there aren’t such people in the States and they all apprehend the reality? Truman bombed in Japan only for impunity? Judging by your words, it’s possible to ruin our missile defense / air defense system, why spend money if they fail anyway? Then the question is: Why did the Caribbean crisis begin?
  41. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 12 August 2013 11: 10 New
    +3
    Replacement is underway, but unequal. I'm talking about ours, of course. Let's say they build 15 PACK YES. But at the same time they will write off 200 Tu-22М3, all Tu-95. Formally, this is a modernization, but in fact there will be 15 PACK YES and, at best, the same 15 Tu-160. The same is true for land-based ICBMs. I don’t know how it is in the fleet with the Boreas.
  42. SPACE
    SPACE 12 August 2013 11: 10 New
    +5
    What are the fundamental differences between the 3 anti-aircraft missile and for example ballistic poplar, from the point of view of the carrier, in nothing, only in the scales. In any case, they remain rockets. The difference in specialization, in different control systems and warheads, in poplar is autonomous on gyroscopes, in cm3 there is a radio command. The royal first r7 ICBM in the world, by the way, also at the beginning, due to deficiencies in the internal control system, had a radio flight correction at the stage of carrier operation. The task was to bring the rocket to the point of separation of the BB. Then he flew by inertia, according to the laws of ballistics. The SM3 anti-aircraft missile is also guided by the Aegis radio command system and, in principle, can also be directed and fly along a ballistic trajectory to the BB drop point, if one is placed on it. There are no exact parameters of the rocket, but there is information on the range and height of interception, not to be confused with the range along the ballistic trajectory, and these are the parameters of the rocket's operation in the active section. Those. the working range of the anti-aircraft missile falls on the active phase, and the ballistic one has two, the active phase is lift, acceleration and passive is BB flight.
    Facts: cm3 can climb to 250 km of altitude while it has a speed of 2km / s, which will happen with warhead if it does not hit the satellite, it does not stop, but will fly by inertia for a while until it hits the ground, depending on angle of elevation, well, and what may be the range of casting such a missile BB. 500 KM? Ten minutes of free flight on top of the ballistic trajectory in almost airless space already gives 1000 km, and this already falls under the INF to 5000 km. The range of the rocket and its height are derivatives of rocket energy (dimensions), its payload and trajectory. So the difference between the defensive and strike system is the same as that of the bread cutting knife and the paratrooper's cleaver, that is, in what and what you want to use. And where are the guarantees?
    Z.Y. About five years ago, there were already military statements about the use of aegis as a weapon of the first strike. Place on ships a lot of UPV Arkov and Tikov with missiles with a small nuclear charge and you can continue to propose a reduction in START 3,4, etc.
  43. Genady1976
    Genady1976 12 August 2013 11: 44 New
    +1

    "TOMORROW". And what, nobody sees and understands anything?
  44. rereture
    rereture 12 August 2013 11: 49 New
    +2
    You can, for example, play on the contradictions of China and the United States, for example, if the United States goes to war with us, we unite with China. If China is a war on us, then the United States.
  45. Aryan
    Aryan 12 August 2013 11: 50 New
    +2
    he had one song ...
    true a long time ago
  46. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 12 August 2013 12: 02 New
    +3
    To recreate the “Perimeter” system and the BZHRK, with the aiming of all strategic missiles on the territory of the likely enemy. For European "friends" other missile systems will be enough. And we need rockets reaching satellites, with their placement on the path of the flight of "partner" satellites over the territory of Russia. You can also satellites with the functional purpose of defeating the satellites of the GPS system (even by ramming so that there is no disturbance about the launch of weapons into space).
    I think if Russia will have something like that, then maybe overseas "friends" will think about it?
  47. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 12 August 2013 12: 11 New
    +8
    Hoping for adequate solutions to Europe is not necessary all the more Eastern. After all, I hope there are no people who seriously believe in their so-called sovereignty. This is Vasala, and the sovereign makes decisions. How many Poles of the Romanians and the Baltic states will actually die these guys do not give a damn about this even gun meat, this empty place doesn’t feel sorry for him. Now further the probability of a first strike is very high, especially now there is no need to experience illusions. Through the north or south it doesn’t matter, the interceptors should be brought as close as possible to the launch sites. It is true that with a certain change in the parameters, interceptors can be turned into BRMD or BRDS. We add here, according to various estimates, from 2500 to 7000 tomahawks and we get an oil painting. I don’t remember the project of the roofing felts converted Los Angeles roofing felts what kind of crap takes on board up to 150pcs of boat tomahawks say up to 30pcs are generally fun. From the northern direction of air defense there is simply no hole up to 1000 km. But THE MOST GLORIOUS AND DANGEROUS EVERYTHING THIS CREATES AN ILLUSION OF THE UNPUNISHED BLITZKRIG AND HOW MUCH WE HAVE BURNED FOR HIS HISTORY HOPPING FOR "THAT THEY ARE FOOL IF IT WAS EXACTLY WORSE. We must be prepared so that no one even gets the illusion of impunity then there will be no blood.
  48. user
    user 12 August 2013 12: 25 New
    +1
    We need strike platforms (Submarines, submarine platforms lying at the bottom, aircraft, satellites) capable of carrying nuclear weapons located on the strike position near North America. If you look at the map, in this case no America is able to protect its territory. Since even they do not have that kind of money, and We always come out from the position of protecting our territory. It has long been clear that the defense strategy needs to be fundamentally changed.
  49. Grbear
    Grbear 12 August 2013 12: 26 New
    +2
    Quote: Nayhas
    but since the 500 billion dollars of the Russian elite are in our banks, you still figure it out: is it your elite or already ours? I don’t see a single situation in which Russia will use its nuclear potential "


    The old Pole is right, as always. But you can’t take and pinch the “elite” at once. These same lardy rush to Russia in the form of ... God knows what. While the GDP is pressing them carefully.

    Regarding the survival of the Russians and the ground phase. Millions of people go through a daily survival school. Until the next spring, I will survive anyway, but in the spring I will not die, etc. Let them come - let's talk.
  50. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 12 August 2013 12: 32 New
    +3
    Given our vast territories and low population density in a nuclear war, they have no chance.
    1. gregor6549
      gregor6549 12 August 2013 13: 24 New
      +1
      This idea was voiced by Nikita Khrychev at one of the congresses of the CPSU (like at 22m). So the thought is neither original nor sound. And what kind of victory in a nuclear war are we talking about?