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Putin and Erdogan agreed on cooperation of the highest level

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Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan agreed to hold a regular meeting of the High Level Cooperation Council between Russia and Turkey in the fall in Moscow in a telephone conversation, as well as continue communication at the G20 summit in St. Petersburg. The conversation took place on the initiative of the Turkish side.


Putin and Erdogan agreed on cooperation of the highest level


The Kremlin’s press service told ITAR-TASS that during the conversation the leaders of Russia and Turkey discussed topical issues on the international agenda, in particular, the Syrian conflict and the situation in Egypt. The importance of coordinated actions of the world community with a view to preventing further escalation of the crisis in the Middle East region was stressed.

The Russian-Turkish High Level Cooperation Council was established in May 2010 by the then Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Tayyip Erdogan with the aim of creating "a governing body developing a strategy and main directions for the development of relations between Russia and Turkey." The Council will coordinate the implementation of important projects of political, trade, economic, cultural and humanitarian cooperation.

Within the Council, a joint strategic planning group was established under the leadership of foreign ministers to discuss the main issues of Russian-Turkish cooperation in international affairs. Meetings of the High Level Cooperation Council are held once a year.
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  1. Uncle Serozha
    Uncle Serozha 6 August 2013 13: 40
    32
    I wonder what it is. Erdogan's disappointment with US collaboration? ;)
    In any case, it pleases that there is some kind of cooperation. It is unlikely that it can overcome the fundamental problems of Russian-Turkish relations (the Caucasus in general and Armenia in particular, the ways of transporting energy to Europe), but it can still be useful.
    A thin peace is better than a good quarrel.
    1. eplewke
      eplewke 6 August 2013 14: 25
      15
      Erdogan was apparently completely pinned to the wall, since he was squinting in our direction. Although talking about the deterioration of US-Turkish relations in a NATO member country is like planting potatoes on concrete ...
      1. Uncle Serozha
        Uncle Serozha 6 August 2013 14: 38
        +6
        Quote: eplewke
        talking about the deterioration of US-Turkish relations in a NATO member country is how to plant potatoes on concrete ...

        Otozh! yes And the problems in Russian-Turkish relations will not go anywhere. It is clear that it is beneficial for Turkey to become an alternative way of supplying hydrocarbons to Europe, which will immediately drop our state budget.
        It is also clear that in relation to Iran we will draw a different line. The defeat (and dismemberment) of Iran is beneficial to them. Suffice it to recall that the three most northern ostans (provinces) of Iran are called West Azerbaijan, East Azerbaijan and Ardabil (the latter is just a highlighted piece of East Azerbaijan). We have our own views on this region.
        Nevertheless, it is necessary to work. Diplomacy is an art the possible.
        1. Very old
          Very old 6 August 2013 15: 45
          +2
          A sober assessment. And + and rate uphill!
        2. Jurkovs
          Jurkovs 7 August 2013 13: 34
          0
          The main thing is the Kurdish problem. Kurds live in heaps in Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria. In Iraq, they have already achieved autonomy; in Syria, they are promised this. What kind of collapse of Iran is worth talking about if the Kurdish state is formed immediately, including from part of Turkey.
      2. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz 6 August 2013 15: 46
        +8
        During Erdogan, trade with Russia rose almost 10 times!
        1. valerii41
          valerii41 6 August 2013 21: 35
          0
          Switches with sockets for European licenses such shit
    2. Botanologist
      Botanologist 6 August 2013 14: 34
      +8
      Quote: Uncle Seryozha
      Erdogan's disappointment with US collaboration? ;)


      It is much more interesting to find out how much and why Erdogan leaked to Putin. I do not think that the GDP invited him to just tryndet. If you already agreed to take cooperation to a new level, then the opposition’s bones in Syria will soon crackle.
      1. Uncle Serozha
        Uncle Serozha 6 August 2013 14: 40
        +1
        Quote: Botanologist
        If you already agreed to take cooperation to a new level, then the opposition’s bones in Syria will soon crackle.

        I would like to believe. But it seems to me painfully harsh from the start ... wink
        1. Very old
          Very old 6 August 2013 16: 03
          0
          And where ERD to go, you need to look for doors, where else you can enter
        2. Botanologist
          Botanologist 6 August 2013 19: 03
          0
          Quote: Uncle Seryozha
          But it seems to me it’s painfully harsh from the start


          And who is easy now belay
      2. Very old
        Very old 6 August 2013 16: 02
        0
        And thanks again for a sober assessment
    3. Beibit
      Beibit 6 August 2013 15: 41
      +2
      http://news.nur.kz/275757.html
    4. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 6 August 2013 15: 54
      0
      Quote: Uncle Serezha
      I wonder what it is. Erdogan's disappointment with US collaboration? ;)


      He hopes in the same way to correct the shaken authority within the country, like "I made a decision for cooperation with the GDP" ... yeah laughing schaz ...
    5. Vadivak
      Vadivak 6 August 2013 15: 58
      14
      Quote: Uncle Seryozha
      In any case, it pleases that there is some kind of cooperation.


      I don’t believe Georgians helped and are helping, the ships of the American Dallas patrol boat destroyer McFaul and the command ship of the 6th US fleet Mount Whitney were allowed into the Black Sea, militants are treated and armed, a lot of things
      1. Uncle Serozha
        Uncle Serozha 6 August 2013 16: 14
        +3
        Quote: Vadivak
        I don’t believe Georgians helped and are helping, the ships of the American Dallas patrol boat destroyer McFaul and the command ship of the 6th US fleet Mount Whitney were allowed into the Black Sea, militants are treated and armed, a lot of things

        Who is arguing? That's why I wrote that Russian-Turkish differences are fundamental and are unlikely to go anywhere. But I repeat: diplomacy is an art the possible.
      2. Remko
        Remko 6 August 2013 17: 59
        +5
        It would be better to clarify why the Turks held American horses (read ships) before entering the Black Sea. Otherwise, the devil knows what the 8-day war in Georgia could turn into. Putin has not forgotten this.
    6. xetai9977
      xetai9977 6 August 2013 18: 46
      +4
      Not everything is so simple in politics. The history of American-Turkish relations bears the imprint of the alignment of forces of the late 40s. On both sides of the Iron Curtain, the sides were seriously preparing for war, and the Americans took upon themselves the obligation to defend Turkey. Moreover, the country received billions of dollars under the Marshall Plan, which for a country not rich at that time was significant support. Taking into account the measures to restore Germany, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Turks received long-awaited jobs in Europe. Turkey, in response, joined NATO (or was forced to join, given the policy of "twisting hands", depending on from what angle), sent troops to Korea, where they suffered very heavy losses. In addition, until recently, the Turkish army was a "guarantor of the secular path" (read pro-Western orientation) and could overthrow governments at its discretion, which was not like democracy So Erdogan faced enormous problems, and we must admit that he did a good job overall. He eliminated the constant threat from the generals, pp. Ana made a HUGE breakthrough in the economic sphere, built a rule of law. My close relative works there as a chief engineer at a large enterprise, and a student friend opened a large company there. So, according to them, the country began to live not according to concepts, but according to the law. Now I will not speak , but what they tell is difficult for the citizens of the post-Soviet countries to understand. The fact that foreign citizens are in a hurry to open a business there says a lot. Again, according to them, the overwhelming majority of citizens support Erdogan, and various organizations, from anarchists to ultra-radicals, go to the demonstration, but they are supported by no more than 10% of citizens. It seems to me that the fact that father Assad and after him his son actively supported the Kurdish separatists for a long time also played a role. But it is difficult for me to form a complete picture, since I do not have information from the inside. The policy of a country is influenced by the tasks that a given country faces, and not what is closer to us or how we want.
      1. Very old
        Very old 6 August 2013 19: 18
        +1
        In many ways you are right, Rauf. In the 40s in Turkey, the land of wooden plow was picked in some places. The empire left bare memories. Yes, and it was necessary to make amends for cooperation with Germany, had to turn around already. In subsequent years, too, on a NATO leash ... Maybe she will have her own policy? Wait and see
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 6 August 2013 19: 45
          +5
          Valentine, the world is gradually moving towards multipolarity. Those days are leaving when 1-2 states ruled by the fate of nations. Not everything is done soon, but the next generation (maximum) will finally be able to CHOOSE the development model that suits the given country, and not the one that is IMPOSED on it. Turkey and Russia are MANDATORY to closely cooperate for the benefit of their peoples. What happened in history 100,200,300 years ago is left to historians. We need to look to the future and build bridges to mutually beneficial cooperation.
          1. Uncle Serozha
            Uncle Serozha 6 August 2013 22: 38
            +2
            Quote: xetai9977
            What happened in history 100,200,300 years ago is left to historians. We need to look to the future and build bridges to mutually beneficial cooperation.

            +1 good
      2. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz 7 August 2013 10: 53
        +1
        Quote: xetai9977
        Moreover, the country received billions of dollars under the "Marshall Plan"

        Unfortunately, this aid also killed the Turkish military-industrial complex at that time!
    7. wow
      wow 6 August 2013 19: 10
      +2
      It is imperative to speak directly with Turkey, with its leadership. How many times in history have the Anglo-Saxons knocked our heads together, how much blood has been shed on both sides !? Why did the "intermediaries" like the amerikos and the Anglocos surrender?
    8. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 6 August 2013 19: 14
      +1
      no, it's easier .... Erdogan’s chair was smoking and he lit the fifth point. Now he is looking for allies even in someone ... and before that we were by no means friends ... No.
    9. Rink
      Rink 6 August 2013 22: 36
      -2
      Quote: Uncle Seryozha
      A thin peace is better than a good quarrel.

      But if you think about it, at the same time, Erdogan will create joint military units with Azerbaijan, and in the future - a joint army. This can be perceived as the expansion of NATO to Azerbaijan with access to the Caspian.

      Against this background, attempts at ingratiating themselves and seeking "cooperation" look like duplicity. This is an attempt to smooth over Moscow's reaction to the games with Azerbaijan and provocations in Armenia. Just so as not to get in the head right away.

      I do not think that Putin took his initiative as a sincere desire ...
      1. alone
        alone 6 August 2013 22: 41
        +1
        Azerbaijan cannot become a member of NATO, our country is a member of the Non-Aligned Movement organization. The creation of a joint army is only one word from one of the deputies of Azerbaijan. The deputy can say anything, the main decision of the leaders of the countries
        1. Uncle Serozha
          Uncle Serozha 6 August 2013 23: 18
          0
          Quote: lonely
          .Creation of a joint army of all the words of one of the deputies of Azerbaijan. The deputy can say anything, the main decision of the leaders of the countries

          +1 I also got exactly that impression when I looked at the link provided by a colleague above.
          There is something slurred on this link.
          - There is no clear name for the source of information
          - There is no clear list of signed documents and organizations whose representatives have signed them (Ministry of Defense? Headquarters? Presidents?)
          - There is no clear list of these joint units, their subordination, command structure, strength.
          Just OGG © (one citizen said)
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz 7 August 2013 00: 39
            +2
            Quote: Uncle Seryozha
            Just OGG © (one citizen said)

            He’s not an ordinary deputy, but a member of the security committee. And he practically said that, in Turkey a huge number of military students are studying, everything is built according to the Turkish model, internal troops are especially distinguished. Turkish officers are often very strong, and the only connections are new. it’s sensational to say that a common center is being created, of the control of both troops, that it’s impossible to imagine or if Azerbaijan is coming under Turkish control, which is also stupid. In our country, everything is synchronized in many ways, Azerbaijan is part of Turkey, Turkey is part of Azerbaijan dzhana.Prosto sometimes not in the power of the people and some poke their nose, MFA should be a long time overall.
    10. SmacXnumx
      SmacXnumx 7 August 2013 09: 39
      0
      The main Turk felt that the armchair under him was swaying and the amers were in no hurry to save, as always they were looking for their own benefit.
    11. Jurkovs
      Jurkovs 7 August 2013 13: 30
      0
      Quote: Uncle Seryozha
      I wonder what it is. Erdogan's disappointment with US collaboration? ;

      Rather, sobering up. Moderate opposition in Syria comes to naught, while the radical is a threat to Turkey itself.
  2. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 6 August 2013 13: 40
    0
    Cooperate with modern Turkey in the person of Erdogan, do not respect yourself.
    1. dirty trick
      dirty trick 6 August 2013 14: 15
      24
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Cooperate with modern Turkey in the person of Erdogan, do not respect yourself.

      cooperation with a strong state located next to our borders and the borders of our interests (Syria) necessary. and cooperate regardless face the shape of the face representing him. time will pass - Erdogan will disappear, but Turkey will remain.
      1. Akhtuba73
        Akhtuba73 6 August 2013 14: 28
        +5
        An important clarification - "on the initiative of the Turkish side." Putin always clearly catches a change in the direction of the wind ... Erdogan squeezed the behavior of the Americans a little and alerted the behavior of the Arabian monarchies regarding the "Arab spring." The main Turk is also not a d.u.rak (it is not for nothing that he is compared to the GDP), he realized that they would merge him first in an unfavorable scenario ... and on his political grave Russian and Iranian would dance "seven-forty"
      2. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 6 August 2013 15: 01
        0
        This is your opinion, my opinion is different, you might think that besides Turkey there are no countries with which you can deal with, cooperate in many areas, can you say that you need to cooperate with Qatar?
        1. Artyom
          Artyom 6 August 2013 22: 01
          +2
          you can with Qatar, but first bomb soldier
    2. knn54
      knn54 6 August 2013 14: 50
      +6
      Vladimir. The virus of the "Arab spring" is practically transferred to Turkey. Erdogan in solitude (given the discontent of the generals) is facing a split in the country. But does the Russian Federation and the whole Transcaucasus need CHAOS on the border?
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 6 August 2013 15: 02
        0
        If Turkey falls apart then it will not be worse for sure.
        1. Akhtuba73
          Akhtuba73 6 August 2013 17: 06
          +4
          Quote: vladsolo56
          If Turkey falls apart then it will not be worse for sure.

          And if the Syrian version moves 700 km closer and the savages frolic right on our border? (almost) And Sochi is within walking distance ... Let Turkey be stable. And flirting with the Islamists is already burping Erdogan, and that's climbing kisses
          1. vladsolo56
            vladsolo56 6 August 2013 17: 36
            +1
            You are so naive, so sure that Erdogan is directly disappointed in the Islamists, and that he is ready to cede his positions to Russia. I am surprised how much people do not want to understand the essence of what is happening, they simply believe in what they want to believe.
            1. Akhtuba73
              Akhtuba73 6 August 2013 18: 11
              +3
              A serious conversation about naivety began ...
              I'm not saying that Erdogan was "directly disappointed". But he saw a hint for himself, not everyone liked the Islamization of Turkey, you see it too. Ataturk managed to instill in some of the people the desire to live according to secular laws, and even more - tolerate issues of religion. It is not a fact that Erdogan immediately rushed to abolish and eradicate the idea of ​​the revival of the great Ottoman Empire, so instilled and loved by him. But he heard the bell ... stupid to deny. He is not going to give up the position and no one expects this from him (me and you), but Erdogan comes to the idea of ​​a big and growing neighbor more and more often, and not with a desire to shit, but to get along peacefully. Yes NATO, yes a vassal of the United States, but stupidly barking at Russia the hunt disappears.
      2. Hug
        Hug 6 August 2013 19: 13
        +2
        Quote: knn54
        Vladimir. The virus of the "Arab spring" is practically transferred to Turkey. Erdogan in solitude (given the discontent of the generals) is facing a split in the country. But does the Russian Federation and the whole Transcaucasus need CHAOS on the border?



        The collapse of a potential enemy state into several parts, a civil war in it, a revolution, etc., i.e. any destabilization leading to the weakening of this enemy is always good! Turkey is the enemy! The enemy was, the enemy will remain! Moreover, Turkey is an Islamist Erdogan.
  3. S-200
    S-200 6 August 2013 13: 47
    15
    Turkey is a serious partner that controls strategically important straits, and Erdogan is not Mishiko Stsukoshvili ...
    nevertheless, officially Turkey did not get involved in the war with Syria after Putin’s call ...
    It is possible and necessary to work constructively with Turkey!
    especially since a serious army tandem of Turkey and Azerbaijan is planned ...
    and the genetic predisposition of Kazakhstan to pan-Turkism is not discounted from history!
    1. Conepatus
      Conepatus 6 August 2013 13: 52
      21
      In addition, during the Ossetian conflict, Turkey hindered Amer’s ships and missed only when it was all over.
      1. alone
        alone 6 August 2013 14: 16
        +5
        and they say that Turkey does not interfere with the amers. as you can see, and how
      2. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 6 August 2013 15: 03
        -2
        Do you believe that? I doubt however. Turkey is a member of NATO and would never interfere with the Americans.
        1. Conepatus
          Conepatus 6 August 2013 15: 28
          +7
          Why believe, or disbelieve, if the facts are clear? Turkey braked 4 Amerian ships, led by the flagship of the 6th US fleet.
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        2. cdrt
          cdrt 6 August 2013 16: 04
          +8
          Do you believe that? I doubt however. Turkey is a NATO member and would never interfere with the Americans

          They fulfilled the Montreux Treaty in 888, despite NATO and despite US pressure ...
          1. vladsolo56
            vladsolo56 6 August 2013 17: 38
            -1
            nonsense if the US pressed it wouldn’t go away how nice they missed, everyone seemed to forget how they landed a passenger plane, how they confiscated the cargo.
            1. Conepatus
              Conepatus 6 August 2013 18: 27
              +3
              Landing a passenger plane is one thing. Unleashing the 3 World at your side is quite another.
              1. Hug
                Hug 6 August 2013 19: 25
                0
                It is the fear of a major military conflict (and it is quite possible that WOULD lead to a nuclear confrontation), in which one can get hit in the face, and kept Turkey in relative "neutrality." And it was not at all because of goodwill that she then intervened on 08.08.08
                1. Conepatus
                  Conepatus 6 August 2013 19: 36
                  +3
                  This is not fear, it is called - common sense.
                  It's just that people are friends with the head. It is not a sin to cooperate with such people.
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 7 August 2013 01: 42
                    +1
                    + everything is correct, the Turks have shown themselves more than once as a country with rules, contrary to the wishes of the American outlaws, for which they received the riots from their "friends".
  4. alone
    alone 6 August 2013 13: 49
    15
    The good news is that the two countries have a desire to cooperate. Still, cooperation is better than stupid war
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 6 August 2013 15: 49
      +4
      No one is hostile, just Turkey is pursuing its own interests and Russia is its own!
      1. alone
        alone 6 August 2013 16: 17
        +4
        I didn’t doubt it even for a second.
  5. Alikovo
    Alikovo 6 August 2013 13: 49
    +7
    Erdogan is sure that the unrest on Taksim faked amers so he called Putin.
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 6 August 2013 15: 50
      +4
      As if they had not called up before!
    2. Very old
      Very old 6 August 2013 16: 10
      0
      Definitely. Name an area on the Planet that the USA has not yet declared its "sphere of national security" or interests ...
  6. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 6 August 2013 13: 50
    +5
    It seems that Erdoетan is baking ... he’s definitely baking
  7. rugor
    rugor 6 August 2013 13: 52
    +3
    It will be much easier for us to cooperate with Turkey after the restoration of the Black Sea Fleet. Now we are clearly behind.
  8. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 6 August 2013 13: 56
    +9
    Putin broke off Erdogan (otherwise he nearly rocked the Syria). How he gently holds Putin’s hand with both hands .. laughing That's how you need them!
    1. S-200
      S-200 6 August 2013 14: 09
      +7
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Putin broke off Erdogan (otherwise he nearly rocked the Syria). How he gently holds Putin’s hand with both hands ..

      Always respected - strength, independence, perseverance and fidelity to the word! ...
      that Putin is constantly demonstrating to all world rulers ..
      therefore, they try to do business with a partner whose words do not diverge from the deed ...
      Well, and - oil, gas, turYsty ... this is already a "pleasant" addition to a good person - the President of All ... laughing
  9. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 6 August 2013 13: 57
    +4
    It’s more convenient to work with any partner when you have a charged Colt45 caliber or better GSh-18 in your pocket
  10. a52333
    a52333 6 August 2013 14: 03
    +1
    I wonder what it is. Erdogan's disappointment with US collaboration? ;)
    this cooperation will not go far. Until the US collapses, farther than
    discussion main issues of Russian-Turkish interaction
    work will not work. Turkey at the moment is not ready to go even to a partial confrontation with the UShists.
    1. alone
      alone 6 August 2013 14: 14
      +6
      Dear Alexei, in the world 80% of countries can not afford to go on a partial confrontation with the amers. Now what, do not cooperate with these countries?
      1. Conepatus
        Conepatus 6 August 2013 14: 34
        0
        Turkey has only 1 headache. The straits. She herself will not hold them. That is why she is looking for a "roof" from more powerful countries. In the 19th, early 20th centuries, it was England, from the middle of the 20th century-pin-do-this. -do-this, China will immediately take its place (and there is no one else). Turkey will cooperate with Russia as closely as possible, but not along the straits and St. Sophia Cathedral.
      2. a52333
        a52333 6 August 2013 15: 35
        0
        So, yes, I agree with you, Omar. It’s worth (almost) trying, but you should not count on a radical change in the vector of politics, except for an adjustment.
        1. alone
          alone 6 August 2013 17: 02
          +1
          where there is economic profit, a cardinal change of vector usually goes by the wayside. do you think that Putin does not know what he is doing? Just the same, Putin is pragmatic in foreign policy and does not throw empty words
  11. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 6 August 2013 14: 09
    +1
    The fact that the initiative comes from the Turkish side is, of course, encouraging. And they obviously didn’t do this from a good life. But in any case, they should keep an eye on them. Official statements are one thing, another thing is that they will make secretly in the same Syria.
    1. eplewke
      eplewke 6 August 2013 14: 28
      0
      Maybe what a good trend will go in Syria. 80% of militants enter Syria through Turkey. And there Kurdistan autonomy loomed on the horizon. It smelled of fried, so now help Russia to rake shit ...
  12. vitas
    vitas 6 August 2013 14: 10
    +2
    We realized that the Americans threw them and fled to Russia, to the same Americans, to evil.
    1. Remko
      Remko 6 August 2013 18: 10
      +1
      The Americans were behind the arrested generals; they wanted to sweep Erdogan and retain secular power. But from this secular authority, Turkey itself suffered first of all. Let us recall how in the recent past, the words did not leave the lips of the Turks: billions, millions, trillions. Inflation was terrible and the number of zeros was added every year. Therefore, the Turks chose Erdogan. He stopped this chaos and permissiveness of the General Staff, which officially had their concerns, factories and factories. It was a state in a state. A strong hand was needed to stop them, so the example of Putin, who famously coped not only with separatism, but also with the oligarchs, was closer to Erdogan.
  13. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 6 August 2013 14: 12
    +3
    You know, it seems that many representatives of the non-Amerian and British establishment are bored with the attitude of mattresses to them as Vasals. And the more aggressive the policy of Russia in this direction will be, the better. But the person who wrote above about the Black Sea Fleet is right. More and more will be friends with us as Russia itself strengthens. We are the only alternative in this regard.
  14. APASUS
    APASUS 6 August 2013 14: 19
    +3
    Erdogan is probing possible allies. Although Turkey is a strong player in the east, they do not need such an enemy as Russia. They are trying to maneuver between problems with the United States and the revolutionary movement.
    Erdogan in a certain sense can be Russia’s ally, not for long of course .... as long as our goals coincide
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 6 August 2013 14: 36
      +1
      We will have to choose, either with the Turks or with the Armenians laughing
      1. alone
        alone 6 August 2013 14: 42
        +5
        )) uneven choice
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 6 August 2013 14: 49
        +1
        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        We will have to choose, either with the Turks or with the Armenians

        You won’t have to. As long as the chair staggers under Erdogan everything will be fine. He probably doesn’t want problems from the north, he has enough of his own. As long as Turkey has its own problems playing a map with Armenia is not reasonable for them.
        1. alone
          alone 6 August 2013 15: 10
          +4
          Do you think Armenia will play cards with Turkey? Is it enough for the Turks to deport 100 thousand Armenian citizens to their country who illegally live there and earn a living)) do you think the current Armenian authorities need this?
      3. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz 6 August 2013 16: 03
        +4
        The Turkish market is the most dynamically growing market for Gazprom's supplies, Gazprom CEO Alexei Miller said at a press conference.

        “Today Turkey is stepping on the heels of Germany,” Miller said. “Turkey is interested in increasing the purchase of Gazprom’s gas.” In the near future, the supply volumes may reach 30 billion cubic meters.

        "In the future, Turkey can become our largest importer and even bypass Germany," Miller said.
        CHOICE AND SO CLEAR
        1. Garrin
          Garrin 6 August 2013 22: 08
          +1
          Quote: ayyildiz

          "In the future, Turkey can become our largest importer and even bypass Germany," Miller said.

          Happiness overwhelms the well-being of Gazprom shareholders. Dreams Come True!
      4. poquello
        poquello 7 August 2013 02: 03
        +1
        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        We will have to choose, either with the Turks or with the Armenians laughing


        Maybe it is the Armenians rushing between the settlement of Karabakh and the withdrawal from Russia. Russia is probably crushing on closing hot spots.
  15. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 6 August 2013 14: 22
    +1
    Healers always as long as the goals coincide
  16. JonnyT
    JonnyT 6 August 2013 14: 22
    0
    Putin is cunningly happy in the photo - he tamed Erdoganchik on a campaign!
  17. pensioner
    pensioner 6 August 2013 14: 27
    -1
    Putin and Erdogan agreed on cooperation of the highest level
    And I think Erdogan said goodbye tinkled ... It seems to him not long left ...
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 6 August 2013 14: 36
      0
      It does NOT sit tight, the army does not rebel, but it really feels the soil for the campaign.
  18. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 6 August 2013 14: 30
    +5
    I’m probably going to write bullshit now. Strongly do not scold, but for some reason I want to see the foreign policy unification of Germany, Russia and Turkey, I do not know why.
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 6 August 2013 14: 35
      0
      Amer immediately stick the label Axis of Evil.
      1. Very old
        Very old 6 August 2013 16: 19
        0
        Yes big-big on them
    2. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 6 August 2013 14: 38
      +2
      I know why: Germany - you can ask for some technology; Turkey is the same, plus an inexpensive vacation to stay (maybe on our coast they will think better of why people go abroad ...).
    3. Ivan.
      Ivan. 6 August 2013 14: 40
      +1
      Quote: kapitan281271
      I want to see the foreign policy unification of Germany between Russia and Turkey; I don’t know why.

      It’s obvious that these countries have always been set up by the Saxon against Russia, so I don’t want to step on the same rake again.
    4. Very old
      Very old 6 August 2013 16: 19
      0
      Delirium, delirium, delirium ... What if not?
    5. Remko
      Remko 6 August 2013 18: 19
      -1
      It would be nice, especially if this would happen in 1914. A lot of things would change for the better.
    6. family tree
      family tree 6 August 2013 22: 15
      +1
      Quote: kapitan281271
      I’m probably going to write bullshit now. Strongly do not scold, but for some reason I want to see the foreign policy unification of Germany, Russia and Turkey, I do not know why.

      God forbid. There are enough of our own. The Germans are already almost sobbing from the fact that the Turks in Germany "united"
  19. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 6 August 2013 14: 33
    +1
    Islamists today executed 450 hostages, women, children, the elderly, they were all Kurds, part of the blame for this lies with Edrogan, surrendered to me, the Kurds will not forgive him for this.
    1. alone
      alone 6 August 2013 14: 47
      +3
      Americans killed 500 thousand Japanese with two bombs, women, children, the elderly. All were Japanese, the blame lies entirely with the Americans, it seems that the Japanese will not forgive the Americans !! ---- but they forgave, and moreover, the current youth of Japan believes that bomb dropped the ussr. here so))
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 6 August 2013 14: 51
        0
        So YAPI then take something from them.
        1. alone
          alone 6 August 2013 15: 06
          +2
          most likely the Kurds will attack the Islamists and avenge the murdered tribesmen. striking stupidity of the Islamists. after that, they will be between a rock and a hard place. Well, I’m not particularly sorry for this.
    2. Essenger
      Essenger 6 August 2013 15: 13
      +3
      Quote: tilovaykrisa
      The Islamists today executed 450 hostages, women, children, the elderly, they were all Kurds, part of the blame for this lies with Edrogan,

      And here Erdogan?
      1. avt
        avt 6 August 2013 15: 29
        +1
        Quote: Essenger
        And here Erdogan?

        And here it is just when he was doing business, or rather his special services, that they really had everything under control, and there they were fighting quite openly and rude the Kurds - to warn that in the event of a sharp statement of their question, the war would be completely annihilated, according to humanity - genocide.
  20. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 6 August 2013 14: 36
    0
    Fuck yourself no news
  21. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 6 August 2013 15: 03
    0
    I am more interested in what was delivered and who was sold. I hope they sold the "opposition", and Edrogan bet on friendship with Russia. On the other hand, if none of the "friends of Syria" intervenes, then Assad will put pressure on the "terrorists" by the end of this year.
  22. ed65b
    ed65b 6 August 2013 15: 05
    +5
    we, as a neighbor of Turkey, need it only as a stable and friendly state. Russia and Turkey solve all problems, even omissions are successfully overcome, and dead-end directions remain in the status quo position and do not swell. Everything is coordinated between the Foreign Ministries and the Prime Minister and the President personally. The exception is perhaps Syria, but even here I think Turkey will reconsider its approaches when the situation in Syria improves. Now she needs to beautifully leave the game without reputational losses for the prime minister and the country. I wish Turkey prosperity and stability.
    1. alone
      alone 6 August 2013 15: 15
      +2
      reason correctly edward! plus for you.
    2. Anti
      Anti 6 August 2013 23: 11
      0
      Quote: ed65b
      I wish Turkey prosperity and stability


      Everything is right about the Turks either good or nothing, otherwise he will come ... lol
  23. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 6 August 2013 15: 09
    0
    That the beaten unbeaten is lucky, he probably bridled the GDP of this proud Ottoman! In general, you need to keep your ear to these Turks, because they still have not calmed down from the received Russian "lyuly" and are hatching plans for revenge.
  24. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 6 August 2013 15: 12
    +1
    Erdogan is like a normal kid with two hands shaking another normal kid. Respects =)
    1. alone
      alone 6 August 2013 15: 16
      +4
      and another normal kid respects him. once gave him a hand)))) wink
  25. Andrey77
    Andrey77 6 August 2013 15: 32
    +1
    The dialogue will not hurt anyone. Turks replenish the budget at the expense of our tourists, moreover, they are already selling property to our citizens. Formally, they are part of NATO, yes. But in the mess, they were limited to providing air bases.
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 6 August 2013 16: 09
      +2
      Like in Russia, a lot of Turkish tourists began to come!
  26. ed65b
    ed65b 6 August 2013 15: 38
    0
    The current situation in the world has changed so much that Turkey does not hurt that it seeks to go about the head of the Anglo-Saxon column, especially after it was frankly dragged into Syria and "thrown". The joint business of russia and turkey does not allow making sudden moves from either side. Putin deftly dragged Turkey into an economic partnership (yes, Turkey itself was ready) and this partnership allows it to solve almost any issue. Here is the result of the movement in 90g. shuttles and tourists. Articles like the Turks will conquer, the Turks will attack, nothing more than cheap PR of journalists on "fried" facts.
  27. Essenger
    Essenger 6 August 2013 15: 43
    +4
    If Erdogan tries to change the vector in his politics, he will be immediately replaced by the military with the support of the Americans. Moreover, President Gul is playing a double game.
  28. Alexandr0id
    Alexandr0id 6 August 2013 15: 52
    0
    and what's the news? agreed to talk.
  29. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 6 August 2013 15: 56
    0
    In short, let him come if with good intentions ... (if with us on good we are with all our souls open)
  30. HAIFISCH
    HAIFISCH 6 August 2013 15: 59
    +1
    Well, the ice was slowly breaking, Tayyip looked at what was happening in Syria, looked at what was happening in Egypt, sniffed what was happening on Taksim, figured out the cards and decided not to wake it up. In general, we are waiting for September.
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 6 August 2013 16: 10
      +1
      Not the first to come to Russia!
  31. Siberian
    Siberian 6 August 2013 16: 03
    0
    Quote: eplewke
    Erdogan was apparently completely pinned to the wall, since he was squinting in our direction. Although talking about the deterioration of US-Turkish relations in a NATO member country is like planting potatoes on concrete ...

    Yes, they have a little stress with USA. Only it is as if imperceptibly.
  32. Yeraz
    Yeraz 6 August 2013 16: 19
    +6
    Well, let’s see it right, Turkey is an important player in the region. Turkey also tries not to depend on amers, it is not in vain that Russia won the multi-billion dollar contract for nuclear power plants and there are so many things where interests are in touch and it’s better to decide together.
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 6 August 2013 17: 00
      +4
      Quote: Yeraz
      Russia won a multi-billion dollar contract for nuclear power plants


      They almost gave this contract to Russia!
    2. Garrin
      Garrin 6 August 2013 17: 39
      +3
      Quote: Yeraz
      Russia won the multi-billion dollar contract for nuclear power plants

      For such a contract, do not even shoot, but you need to hang up the representative of the Russian side, who signed it. 100% unprofitable for Russia. Apparently, not a small rollback was received.
      1. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz 6 August 2013 17: 46
        +3
        It is not unprofitable in the long run! The Russian side was given a guarantee that the state would buy energy for 25 years!
        1. Garrin
          Garrin 6 August 2013 17: 56
          +2
          Quote: ayyildiz
          It is not unprofitable in the long run! The Russian side was given a guarantee that the state would buy energy for 25 years!

          I might have agreed if our VORYUGI had not started to impose limits on the consumption of e-mail. energy for the population. What's this? "Give me back to the splinter?" And in 25 years, either the donkey dies ... or we write off the debt for the next rollback.
          1. ayyildiz
            ayyildiz 6 August 2013 18: 33
            +4
            I advise you to read the terms of the contract! The 25 states are not long years, see the gas agreements between Turkey and Russia! Moreover, every month they will pay for the purchased energy! You do not compare Turkey with banana countries hi
            1. Garrin
              Garrin 6 August 2013 19: 54
              +3
              Quote: ayyildiz
              You do not compare Turkey with banana countries hi


              And you know, Zhirinovsky’s forecasts, whoever they hold him for, mostly come true.
              1. ayyildiz
                ayyildiz 6 August 2013 20: 54
                +2
                Zhirinovsky wants to sell but doesn’t want to buy anything, who doesn’t exist in state relations, first see how many Turks invested in Russia and how many Russians in Turkey
                1. Garrin
                  Garrin 6 August 2013 21: 29
                  0
                  Quote: ayyildiz
                  Zhirinovsky wants to sell but doesn’t want to buy anything, who doesn’t exist in state relations

                  Firstly. What's bad about it?
                  Secondly. Why doesn’t it happen? When the leaders of the state care about its good, it even happens.
                  1. ayyildiz
                    ayyildiz 6 August 2013 22: 29
                    +1
                    You probably didn’t understand a day! What is the point of only buying Turkey from Russia when it does not want to buy anything? Not only Russia is building nuclear power plants do not forget!
                    1. Garrin
                      Garrin 6 August 2013 22: 43
                      +1
                      Quote: ayyildiz
                      Not only Russia is building nuclear power plants do not forget!

                      Americans in Japan built reactors. Fukushima is a prime example.
                      Quote: ayyildiz
                      What is the point of only buying Turkey from Russia when it does not want to buy anything?

                      So they don’t buy, they take freebies from the next creatures that are for sale.
                      1. ayyildiz
                        ayyildiz 7 August 2013 00: 11
                        0
                        Quote: Garrin
                        So they don’t buy, they take freebies from the next creatures that are for sale.


                        Yes, Russia every year to give 25 a billion dollars of energy
                        Turkey!
                    2. Misantrop
                      Misantrop 6 August 2013 22: 43
                      +1
                      Quote: ayyildiz
                      Not only Russia is building nuclear power plants
                      But ONLY Russian nuclear power plants explode ONLY by personnel errors, and not by themselves. For one simple reason: ONLY Russia is preparing competent personnel for the operation of nuclear power plants, all the rest on the planet are limited to memorizing technological instructions, they DO NOT have a SYSTEM for training personnel ... As there is no understanding, for what it is necessary
                      1. ayyildiz
                        ayyildiz 7 August 2013 00: 01
                        +1
                        The authorities of Turkey and Japan have signed an agreement that provides for the construction of a new nuclear power plant on the Black Sea.

                        According to a document signed in Ankara by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his Japanese counterpart Shinzo Abe, the construction of the station will be entrusted to the Japanese-French consortium.

                        The territory where the power plant will be located belongs to Turkey. Erdogan believes that signing the deal, estimated at 22 billion dollars, is a serious step for Japan to become a strategic partner of Turkey.

                        Controversy erupted around the project, as Turkey is located in a seismically dangerous region. Japanese companies have vast experience in building nuclear power plants in such conditions
              2. alone
                alone 7 August 2013 00: 14
                +1
                Zhirinovsky during the Soviet Union was in a Turkish prison. he always opposes Turkey.
                1. Essenger
                  Essenger 7 August 2013 02: 41
                  +2
                  Quote: lonely
                  Zhirinovsky during the Soviet Union was in a Turkish prison. he always opposes Turkey.

                  He always opposes the Türks.
  33. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 6 August 2013 16: 57
    +3
    Turkey is our neighbor, claiming a leading role in the Islamic world. Relations with him are important not only for us, but also for the mn situation in the region. It’s hard for Erdogan now. Apparently it will ask the GDP to influence the opposition through its channels. In exchange - non-interference in the Syrian issue, cooperation on the Caspian. Economic ties are also important.
    So we are far from indifferent to what kind of neighbor we have and what is on his mind, the more we are more loyal and friendly to him than amers.
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 6 August 2013 17: 04
      +2
      Inside the country, Erdogan is feeling very nothing!
    2. Essenger
      Essenger 6 August 2013 18: 19
      +6
      Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
      It’s hard for Erdogan now. Apparently it will ask the GDP to influence the opposition through its channels.

      Yes, quit. Putin has no influence in Turkey. There are three forces in Turkey, the Islamists led by Erdogan. Republicans are the leader of Kılıçdoroglu and Pan-Turkists from the National Action Party. Putin has no way to influence them. Be realistic.
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 6 August 2013 22: 37
        +1
        I had in mind Kurds, other pro-Syrian forces, which certainly do not stand aside from the problems of the region.
        1. ayyildiz
          ayyildiz 6 August 2013 22: 40
          +3
          If you think the Kurds are pro-Syrian, then you are deeply mistaken!
      2. Misantrop
        Misantrop 7 August 2013 10: 28
        0
        Quote: Essenger
        Putin has no way to influence them.

        Easy and laid back. Two ways - through a stream of Russian tourists, or Turkish builders (there are VERY many in the Russian Federation). A financial argument is more powerful than political wink
        1. ayyildiz
          ayyildiz 7 August 2013 10: 48
          0
          Turkey and Russia have long agreed not to confuse the economy with geopolitics, and rightly so! And if you think Turkey also eats a trump card in his hand! hi
          1. valerii41
            valerii41 7 August 2013 11: 16
            -1
            Yes, there is Kremlin blindness. With the drunk Borka, many Turkish firms worked, part of the proceeds went to feed the militants. Blindness Continues
            1. ayyildiz
              ayyildiz 7 August 2013 12: 38
              +1
              And the facts are that the construction companies helped the Chechens? Just don’t say that the ENKA helped! She later asked for an apology!
  34. sergej30003
    sergej30003 6 August 2013 17: 29
    +2
    Well, Erdogan does not want to participate in the war against Syria, somehow he condemns Bashar sluggishly, realizing that this war is not his, the West does not want to be a puppet in their hands. offended that his partners had tuned the buzu, so he was looking for support from Russia
  35. Yeraz
    Yeraz 6 August 2013 17: 30
    +3
    This is understandable to you, and people from Russia think that almost half of the country is against him and the poor don’t know what to do. It’s like a series of 300 million US dollars 25 thousand debits figs understand where we want independence and everything went to ruin America etc.
  36. Hug
    Hug 6 August 2013 19: 29
    +1
    Quote: Alikovo
    Erdogan is sure that the unrest on Taksim faked amers so he called Putin.

    Brad!
  37. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 6 August 2013 20: 18
    +4
    Syrian conflict gave Erdogan hope to solve several problems
    --To follow the Kurds with their idea of ​​a sovereign state
    --Solve a number of territorial issues
    - affirming support for its movement in Islam
    - to establish itself as the leader of Wed. East
    - On the basis of the anti-Syrian front, improve relations with Israel ...
    Based on the solution of these foreign policy problems, strengthen our position in TURKEY itself.
    Earlier this year, GDP in a telephone conversation explained in rather sharp form that ERDOGAN was wrong when he took the anti-Syrian course ... The latter even dropped the phone ...
    A month later I had to go, passing east, to Turkey and personally explain that ERDOG was very, very wrong! The clarification did not help again.
    But only 3-4 months passed and TURKEY realized that she had been framed and she had already "broken her teeth" on the anti-Syrian course (why this happened is another topic). The support of bandits rather than oppositionists did not increase TURKEY's authority in the world, in the Islamic world, and ERDOGAN himself is more likely to face the role of "not shaking hands" than the title of the leader of the East.
    What did ERDOGAN have to do? It’s more likely to call PUTIN in order to improve his affairs in alliance with RUSSIA. So ERDOGAN gathered in RUSSIA, but already suck with a different mood.
    1. fedorovith
      fedorovith 6 August 2013 22: 45
      +1
      But Putin warned him: "Don't get into this swamp," he didn't listen, now we need to shovel it off.
  38. Siberian
    Siberian 6 August 2013 20: 21
    0
    during the conversation, the leaders of Russia and Turkey discussed current issues international agenda, in particular, the Syrian conflict and the situation in Egypt.
    The Turks were tired of this whole war near them, all the more so in their country there was tension. So they are discussing with Russia "topical issues". If these troubles were far away from them, the Turks "topical issues" c RUSSIA and would not discuss.
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 6 August 2013 20: 59
      0
      The conversation will mostly be about economic cooperation!
    2. alone
      alone 6 August 2013 22: 51
      +2
      who wants to have a crowd of Wahhabis armed to the teeth next to them? as soon as the Turks appeared they realized what they were facing, they quietly stepped aside. because this rabble is being wet, the whole region will benefit from it
  39. ed65b
    ed65b 6 August 2013 21: 03
    +2
    Today, the news reported the destruction by the Syrian opposition of 400 Kurds, women and children, many were burned alive. Chechens are held hostage for about the same amount. Here is democracy and freedom from Jihadists.
  40. Siberian
    Siberian 6 August 2013 21: 12
    0
    Quote: ed65b
    Today, the news reported the destruction by the Syrian opposition of 400 Kurds, women and children, many were burned alive.

    The lawlessness is complete. Fascism sips.
  41. armandos
    armandos 6 August 2013 21: 14
    +1
    Here I read comments and I am surprised ... Indeed, in order to understand Turkey’s policy it’s not necessary to understand the intricacies of diplomacy. With Turkey, everything has long been clear. For God's sake, well, read the story. This country has never been an ally of Russia, it is a country that understands only power. If we are strong, they will, as nice ones, dangle at the gates of the Kremlin. If we give slack, they, like hordes of locusts, will close the sky of Russia. I never hid my sharply negative attitude and even to some extent squeamishness towards everything Turkish, be it their politics, their resorts, their morals, etc. But the fact is, friends must be kept close and enemies even closer!
    PS Watch the movie "Midnight Express", it says it all ... especially about Turkish justice.
    1. Conepatus
      Conepatus 6 August 2013 21: 23
      +4
      USSR, was a strong country? Then why didn’t Turkey wriggle around the Kremlin gates?
      Not only Turkey understands the force, ALL countries understand the force.
      It seems to me that a better relationship is better than rattling (unpromising on both sides) with a weapon in front of the nose.
      1. armandos
        armandos 6 August 2013 21: 56
        0
        Is that Turkey not wriggling? Turks didn’t directly fight the USSR, it’s true, guess why? Correctly one place they played ... But!
        "How was the message about the German attack on the Soviet Union perceived in Turkey? Kochak writes:" The German-Russian war created a holiday atmosphere in the country. All hearts, remembering five centuries of history, began to beat in unison with German victories. Everyone congratulates each other, They say: “Happy holiday to you, the war has moved aside.” The author also cites the following passages from the memoirs of Barutchu, his contemporary: “In the corridors of the Mejlis, I saw Minister Sarajogu and said:“ Congratulations on the political gazavat ”, and in response I heard:“ We congratulate everyone Inonu was also happy, and a certain marshal, smiling, said: “It will be just a shame if the war does not end in a week.” Papen's report to Berlin on June 22 said that Sarajoglu called him and wished him a good chance. the day of the attack in the Cumhuriyet newspaper on June 22, 1941, it was claimed that Hitler was the only leader who understood Ataturk "
        PS Do not make me list all the villains that this country committed against Russia.
        1. Conepatus
          Conepatus 6 August 2013 22: 48
          +2
          Quote: armandos
          Is that Turkey not wriggling? Turks didn’t directly fight the USSR, it’s true, guess why? Correctly one place they played ... But!
          "How was the message about the German attack on the Soviet Union perceived in Turkey? Kochak writes:" The German-Russian war created a holiday atmosphere in the country. All hearts, remembering five centuries of history, began to beat in unison with German victories. Everyone congratulates each other, They say: “Happy holiday to you, the war has moved aside.” The author also cites the following passages from the memoirs of Barutchu, his contemporary: “In the corridors of the Mejlis, I saw Minister Sarajogu and said:“ Congratulations on the political gazavat ”, and in response I heard:“ We congratulate everyone Inonu was also happy, and a certain marshal, smiling, said: “It will be just a shame if the war does not end in a week.” Papen's report to Berlin on June 22 said that Sarajoglu called him and wished him a good chance. the day of the attack in the Cumhuriyet newspaper on June 22, 1941, it was claimed that Hitler was the only leader who understood Ataturk "
          PS Do not make me list all the villains that this country committed against Russia.

          Quote: armandos
          Is that Turkey not wriggling? Turks didn’t directly fight the USSR, it’s true, guess why? Correctly one place they played ... But!
          "How was the message about the German attack on the Soviet Union perceived in Turkey? Kochak writes:" The German-Russian war created a holiday atmosphere in the country. All hearts, remembering five centuries of history, began to beat in unison with German victories. Everyone congratulates each other, They say: “Happy holiday to you, the war has moved aside.” The author also cites the following passages from the memoirs of Barutchu, his contemporary: “In the corridors of the Mejlis, I saw Minister Sarajogu and said:“ Congratulations on the political gazavat ”, and in response I heard:“ We congratulate everyone Inonu was also happy, and a certain marshal, smiling, said: “It will be just a shame if the war does not end in a week.” Papen's report to Berlin on June 22 said that Sarajoglu called him and wished him a good chance. the day of the attack in the Cumhuriyet newspaper on June 22, 1941, it was claimed that Hitler was the only leader who understood Ataturk "
          PS Do not make me list all the villains that this country committed against Russia.


          Most of all, she rejoiced at the German attack on the USSR, Britain. And England did more evil for Russia than all the others combined. And what, have no relations with England?
          But if America clinged to China, would you not be happy? A guarantee that you would be happy. Well, and how are you better than them?
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          2. armandos
            armandos 8 August 2013 00: 13
            -1
            Young man, read carefully ... You need to communicate with everyone, unfortunately and with the Turks, you can’t get anywhere from this ... but the British and Yankees always reacted negatively to the Russian Federation and did not hide it. And the whole abomination of the Turks lies precisely in the fact that they look in the eyes, smile, swear friendship, and waiting for their time without hesitation they will stick a knife in the back. This is the essence of Turkish politics! The worst enemy is not the one who shows his teeth, but the one who hides the jackal grin behind a smile. So let's not generalize! Turks separately, and Saxons separately!
    2. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 6 August 2013 22: 23
      +3
      Propaganda did not work badly in this film! In Turkey, justice works a lot
      than in the former social camp! hi
    3. Setrac
      Setrac 6 August 2013 23: 07
      -1
      Quote: armandos
      This country has never been an ally of Russia, it is a country that understands only power.

      However, it was not an enemy of Russia either, the Romanov Dynasty PERSONALLY sowed enmity between Russia and Turkey, the Romanovs left, the enmity left.
      1. armandos
        armandos 8 August 2013 00: 16
        -2
        Learn the story.
  42. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 6 August 2013 21: 21
    +2
    Ohohoho, the Islamists not only killed 450 women and Kurdish kids, but took 400 more as hostages, well, the Kurds got under the distribution, my mother don’t cry, but because they wanted to sit out, they wanted to speak on the side of the winners, well now they understand what’s with the animals it doesn’t work out, it’s time to create a free Kurdistan.
    Who is in the know about the history of the Kurds, throw in a personal link about Great Ukrov, Khetov, Uighurs, I already read)

    Throw off pliz (something like this according to slang), or else I'll fly tomorrow to a team in the glorious DPRK) there will be something to read on the road.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 6 August 2013 21: 34
      +1
      Quote: tilovaykrisa
      Ohohoho, the Islamists not only killed 450 women and Kurdish children, but took 400 more as hostages,

      Did ??? They seem to have killed just the hostages they took.
      Quote: tilovaykrisa
      well, the Kurds got under the hand of mother don’t worry,

      Without American support, they will be crushed under the Turks, Persians and Arabs.
      Quote: tilovaykrisa
      and all because they wanted to stay, they wanted to speak on the side of the winners,

      Wrong done, it means you had to immediately choose one side.
      Quote: tilovaykrisa
      otherwise I’m flying tomorrow to the team in the glorious DPRK

      Really ???? Damn it is very interesting to know first hand how everything is there.
  43. Olegovi4
    Olegovi4 6 August 2013 22: 52
    0
    Quote: xetai9977
    Americans have committed themselves to protecting Turkey. Moreover, the country received billions of dollars


    From your words, it may seem that amers are directly altruists and guardians of mankind, decided to protect poor Turkey from the "evil empire". In fact, they needed territory - the deployment of military bases, the deployment of nuclear weapons, and of course the straits.
  44. Michael_59
    Michael_59 7 August 2013 00: 27
    -3
    Quote: Conepatus
    Most of all, she rejoiced at the German attack on the USSR, Britain. And England did more evil for Russia than all the others combined. And what, have no relations with England?
    But if America clinged to China, would you not be happy? A guarantee that you would be happy. Well, and how are you better than them?

    You have no arguments and there is nothing to answer, so it would be better if you were silent, since there is no sense in recognizing the truth, or even the face is completely lost ... 8 (
  45. pinecone
    pinecone 7 August 2013 06: 11
    0
    Quote: xetai9977
    . Moreover, the country received billions of dollars according to the Marshall plan ", which was significant support for a poor country at that time.


    The volume of American aid to Turkey under the Marshall Plan for the period of its operation from 1948 to 1951 amounted to 137 million dollars. For comparison: Britain 3.3 billion dollars, France 2.3 billion dollars.
  46. USNik
    USNik 7 August 2013 10: 22
    0
    The conversation was initiated by the Turkish side.
    Erdogan is not afraid that for such masterful behavior, the landlord will arrange in his country some name of the square-revolution? Or will it be another persuasion with threats to step back from Syria? Unclear...
    1. alone
      alone 7 August 2013 10: 58
      +1
      so the attempt to arrange revolutions in Turkey failed. the people there just the same support the government.
  47. Micex
    Micex 7 August 2013 10: 25
    0
    here's another minus one participant in the Syrian conflict! Now the Syrians can no longer worry about the Turkish invasion, perhaps even a few bandyuk on the Turkish side will be squeezed. The Americans have less and less moves in Syria, the climax with the participation of the West there is getting closer.