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When Shoigu in the army began to line up

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When Shoigu in the army began to line up The number of draft dodgers and sick conscripts has drastically decreased, and queues are lined up for scientific and sports companies, the Defense Ministry generals said following the spring draft, seeing a steady positive trend in improving the image of the army. The main person in the General Staff, responsible for recruiting recruits, Colonel General Vasily Smirnov told RBC daily that foreigners who had previously served in their homeland, but decided to obtain Russian citizenship, were called into the Russian army for the first time.


Sergei Shoigu - one of the most popular politicians in the country - became the first in the newest stories Russia's defense minister, in which the number of draft dodgers has ceased to grow. On Thursday, the generals responsible for the last spring draft reported to the journalists and announced that 153,2 thousand young men were called up for military service. Thus, the first call at Shoigu is made on 100%.

“More than half of all conscripts went to serve in military units stationed in the regions from which they are called,” said Colonel-General Vasily Smirnov, head of the General Organization and Mobilization Directorate of the General Staff. “The number of draft dodgers from the army decreased by 18% (those who did not arrive at the recruiting station. - RBC daily), by 15% - the number of those who are hiding so that they would not be handed a subpoena.” In Moscow, the entire 24 youth did not show up to be sent to the troops in this call, although this figure had previously reached 300 — 500 people. According to the general, this indicates that the attitude of society towards the army is changing in a positive direction. Earlier, Minister Shoigu said that the number of refuseniks during the spring draft in Russia was 30 thousand. General Smirnov has headed this department since 2002 of the year, but under the previous ministers, Anatoly Serdyukov and Sergey Ivanov, he was unable to fulfill the call so successfully.

The military continued to praise the modern army, where soldiers are now allowed to use mobile phones, not work in the kitchen, play sports not in the military, but in a special form, and by the end of the year they are promised showers in all parts of the soldiers. Other generals did not lag behind Smirnov - the head of the Main Medical Department, Alexander Fisun, said that they no longer called upon the HIV-infected and patients with chronic hepatitis to join the army. At the same time, the overall health of the recruiting force has improved. Drug-addicted soldiers, who, according to the chief military physician, identified 1 — 1,5%, are now prohibited from being assigned to positions of responsibility, for example, in the Strategic Missile Forces.

In this call, for the first time, the recruit's parents were allowed to be present at military registration and enlistment offices and at assembly points when the issue of the distribution of a soldier to certain troops and units was decided. More than 12 thousand fathers and mothers took advantage of the opportunity.

The know-how of Shoigu - scientific and sports companies - are in great demand. Athletes through the CSKA system can easily get into the Olympic team, and scientists live in comfortable student conditions. “We placed an advertisement on the recruitment to a scientific company on the Academy’s website, so students bombarded us with their resumes,” said the head of the Voronezh Air Force Academy, Gennady Zibrov. “We are entering a serious competitive basis, we already have three or four people in place, in the fall after graduation from Russian universities, we expect 10 — 12 people to take place.”

“Indeed, the army has ceased to be a scarecrow for the Russians,” summed up the leader of the “Officers of Russia” movement, Anton Tsvetkov. “Earlier, conscripts and their parents addressed us with one question, how to hang out, and now they ask which part is better to choose, which troops to go to serve.”

In this spring call, the Russian army for the first time joined yesterday’s foreigners. The law came into force, which does not exempt from military duties men aged from 18 to 27 years who have already served in their homeland, but have decided to obtain Russian citizenship. “At present, Russia has an intergovernmental agreement only with Turkmenistan and Tajikistan,” General Vasily Smirnov explained to RBC Daily, adding that it is not planned to conclude such agreements with other states. This means that only Turkmen and Tajiks can not be afraid of our army in obtaining Russian citizenship. According to the FMS, most of all in recent years, citizens of Ukraine, Moldova, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan have become the new Russians. According to Mr. Smirnov, about a thousand such recruits joined the army’s ranks. Many of them went to serve the second time. But Belarusians, as citizens of the Union State, are not threatened by the army in the second round.
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  1. leon-iv
    leon-iv 5 August 2013 14: 57 New
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    And where does Shoigu have to do with it?
    It was under the "Bloody Serdyukov" that the popularization and humanization of the service began. Say thanks to the Star.
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 5 August 2013 15: 00 New
      +2
      This process even under Serdyukov began and in the army already with him, everything went fine. Just given the command to lick ass Shoigu, everything is as always.
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 5 August 2013 15: 07 New
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        It's just that everything is built on the opposition of "bad" Serdyukov and "good" Shoigu. Like, look how bad it was and how it is getting better now ...
        Just given the command to lick ass Shoigu, everything is as always.

        Well, that too.

        And of course, for the positive trends in the army. But then all kinds of licking again hang the medals and ...
        1. Genera
          Genera 6 August 2013 06: 40 New
          +3
          Looks like they are here a gang, "ENLIGHTED"
      2. svp67
        svp67 5 August 2013 15: 20 New
        17
        Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov
        This process began under Serdyukov and everything was normal with him already in the army.

        Well, well ... Of course, you cannot compare with the nineties and zero, but do not flatter yourself ... Under Serdyukov, they did not go normally to the Army, everything was as usual, and worse, the "fighters" returned - they carried out a strong counter-propaganda ... engaged in combat training ... And with the "contract soldiers" there was a complete horror, then they recruited, then almost all of them will be cut, then they will recruit again, again they will be reduced, and as a result, every time there was less and less willing. It got to the point that the FSB decided to recruit "counterattackers" in PV on its own, almost completely excluding the military enlistment offices subordinate to the Ministry of Defense from this process
        1. StolzSS
          StolzSS 5 August 2013 20: 15 New
          +6
          Yes sir. In our border guards, in order to get there, we need the recommendation of the current border guard or one of the FSB.
      3. valton
        valton 5 August 2013 19: 22 New
        21
        In any case, Shoigu commanders before the system does not humiliate, unlike the stool.
        1. fokino1980
          fokino1980 6 August 2013 10: 48 New
          +1
          That's for sure! And military officers do not spit on him !!!
      4. Anat1974
        Anat1974 5 August 2013 21: 38 New
        0
        It is said of course rude, but essentially correct.
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      7. Combitor
        Combitor 6 August 2013 07: 15 New
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        Alexey Prikazchikov (4) Yesterday, 15:00 ↑
        You be careful with such comments. And then you will be "demoted" to the rank and file with minuses.
        An extremely positive image of the Shoigu reformer is being actively created and replicated in the country. When Serdyukov was put on the defensive, it all began exactly the same, but what ended with? So that time will put everything in its place and show who is who.
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 6 August 2013 08: 38 New
          +5
          I do not agree with you dear Combinator. Serdyukov, even when being appointed to the post, had a nasty reputation for the warehouse. The military took up their heads instantly. Maybe Shoigu is not an angel in the flesh, but it was he who asked the president to separate the defense ministry from financial flows in the field of non-defense of the country and it was with him that they finally began to put things in order in the procurement of the military-industrial complex. For all that I do not love Shoigu (I treat him neutral ) We must pay tribute to him.
    2. svp67
      svp67 5 August 2013 15: 05 New
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      Quote: leon-iv
      It was under the "Bloody Serdyukov" that the popularization and humanization of the service began. Say thanks to Star
      Yeah, and he conducted such massive and large exercises? Understand, ordinary guys more believe their peers who returned from the army and participated in such exercises, that is, DOING what they went there for, and not "hap-build work" and no "Star" will change that much .. ...
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 5 August 2013 15: 22 New
        +4
        Serdyuk changed the structure of interaction with industry and finance. He created an interaction structure. At the same time, according to the old bureaucratic habit, I was late for all sorts of Vasilievs to earn money. But there is a structure.
        Even for one RCC, you need to say thank you for how many dates stole Vasilyeva nervously smokes on the sidelines.
        1. svp67
          svp67 5 August 2013 15: 37 New
          +9
          Quote: leon-iv
          Serdyuk changed the structure of interaction with industry and finance. He created an interaction structure
          Yeah, there was a case, but for some reason, it is not clear why, all these changes in the results "increased" the well-being "of the ignorant minister" and his "Baba battalion", but for defense, it was more often with the sign "-"
          1. leon-iv
            leon-iv 5 August 2013 15: 49 New
            +4
            it is not clear why, all these changes in the results "increased" the well-being "of the ignorant minister" and his "baba battalion", but for the defense capability - more often with the sign "-"
            Have you implemented projects in life?
            What stole Serdyuk and Co. This is a drop in the bucket, but we don’t know how much the other generals and nachfins drank to the DD. And it was more than once.
            1. svp67
              svp67 5 August 2013 15: 58 New
              +6
              Quote: leon-iv
              Have you implemented projects in life?
              Imagine YES. But I was very lucky to retire on time and not have time to "get dirty", those who were not lucky - some of them somehow "unexpectedly" turned out to be "weak in health" and left for another world, the rest became regulars of the prosecutor's office and "sc" ...
              Quote: leon-iv
              This is a drop in the bucket, but we don’t know how much the other generals and nachfins drank to the DD.
              By the number it may well be, since there are definitely more generals and nachfins, but in terms of quality and volume, Serdekov and his bat are not competitors. And for that matter, SUCH theft, which began, and at all levels, under Serdyukov, never happened and God forbid never ...
              1. leon-iv
                leon-iv 5 August 2013 16: 07 New
                +8
                that SUCH theft that began, and at all levels, under Serdyukov never happened and God forbid never will be ...
                I do not argue that they were tyrily on a lot. BUT lards were basically sawed off at the military-industrial complex when the general supplier's criminal scheme was worked out and we were shoved without "having analogues." Here is an example with Kalistratov and his ash that the price was reduced by 2 times. to EMNIP 17 lards (I can be mistaken) with 36 lards and there are many examples. So I'm not ready to say who would have cut off the Serdyuk-Babtsy / Generali / VPK bunch more.
                Further food soldiers. No matter how they slandered the Slav, they became much better in the army. So the structure is necessary to tear and flog it, so that it works.
                1. svp67
                  svp67 5 August 2013 16: 12 New
                  +2
                  Quote: leon-iv
                  Further food soldiers. No matter how they slandered the Slav, they became much better in the army. So the structure is necessary to tear and flog it, so that it works.
                  It is what it is. And here we need more CONTROL, otherwise they steal a lot, almost from trays ...
                  1. leon-iv
                    leon-iv 5 August 2013 16: 17 New
                    +9
                    That is yes. In the n-th part of the cook went out on bending legs. And the chicken chakhokhbili consisted of tailings and wings. After the Military Prosecutor's Office, meat became the norm. And at the field exits, people generally overeat.
                    Since 2009, more and more are engaged in BP. I remember Murakhovsky wrote that our army is once again learning to fight. First, it is necessary at the Department-Platoon level, then how did the first exercises go then the level of the bat-regiment.
                    Now we have seen the brigade / district exercises. I think you can’t argue with that either.
                2. svp67
                  svp67 5 August 2013 16: 14 New
                  +1
                  Quote: leon-iv
                  So I'm not ready to say who would cut the bunch of Serdyuk-Babtsi / Generali / VPK more.
                  Yes, everything was simple there - the generals would "saw" - for Serdyukov, well, they would not forget themselves. It was not for nothing that at that time the saying "To be by the stream and not get drunk ..." became very popular.
                3. pevpa
                  pevpa 6 August 2013 07: 17 New
                  +3
                  As for nutrition and Slav. Before the Slav, we had civilian cooks and fed very well. After the Slav was given food, I constantly bought doshiraki and other crap for the soldiers, because it was impossible to eat the Slav. And when one of the units was hampered openly indignant, the commission arrived immediately and he was fired due to non-observance of the secrecy regime.
            2. Lopatov
              Lopatov 5 August 2013 16: 50 New
              +5
              There was a case, I agree. A new car for a young date after three months is in part a common occurrence. And how much they cooked on "combat" ones ...
              1. volkodav
                volkodav 6 August 2013 09: 39 New
                +1
                and the dead souls and the number of people living nearby with Chechnya (Dagi, Ingush, Kabardos) are the monetary allowance for the fifties and ffty, and Vanya is from Russia in clothes and every day is an engineer, then he checks the passport regime, at least VV (46 OBRON)
            3. rolik
              rolik 5 August 2013 18: 09 New
              +2
              Quote: leon-iv
              Have you implemented projects in life?

              We, too, were engaged in the implementation of floodlights. Get into debt at the very oh oh.
          2. servant.
            servant. 5 August 2013 18: 55 New
            +2
            Well, before him, the welfare of the general was increasing, as we will now find out in 2-3 years ...
            1. alone
              alone 5 August 2013 19: 26 New
              +4
              why wait so long? believe the generals all this on the drum, how they lived, and they will live ... in abundance
              1. tilovaykrisa
                tilovaykrisa 5 August 2013 19: 32 New
                +4
                So I look at your comments and see that you are calling for the Russian people to revolution, you are agitating to come out with arms, change the system of corpses, and the question creeps in to me, why would you have such zeal ....? sad
                1. alone
                  alone 6 August 2013 00: 07 New
                  +1
                  where did you get the idea that I am agitating to curtail power with arms? show me this comment. I was just born in the USSR. I even managed to get a passport. I’m just a shame that even after 20 years people remained the same. They choose power, moreover, it’s completely legal and do not require it to fulfill obligations. (This is always the case, wherever the USSR was before). And here’s the fact that corruption there are terrifying scales, it’s not slander, but reality. however, the Russians decide how to live, I just express my opinion as a man whose grandfather died in the Smolensk region in 1943.
                  my ancestor lies on your land. your fate and I care
                  1. Setrac
                    Setrac 6 August 2013 00: 30 New
                    0
                    Quote: lonely
                    moreover, it is completely legal and does not require him to fulfill obligations.

                    Everyone immediately speaks of the obligations of the state, but no one speaks of obligations to the state. All honestly, citizens shy away from their obligations, the state from their own.
        2. servant.
          servant. 5 August 2013 18: 53 New
          +1
          Here are just a new guide wants the ERC to take back and all the thievish cohort of dates to return back !!!
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        3. Commander
          Commander 6 August 2013 09: 50 New
          0
          Dates then stole, but not so much. And now try to request at least 2NDFL help ??? You will wait a year. And how many are paid incorrectly !!! So, the RCC did not justify itself.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 5 August 2013 16: 48 New
        -5
        And what, does Shoigu conduct them? And I thought that the President still commands the army ... Here's the bad luck ...
        True, these exercises will most likely negatively affect combat training, but what can be done. It’s necessary to check somehow.
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 6 August 2013 10: 23 New
          0
          Quote: Spade
          And what, does Shoigu conduct them? And I thought that the President still commands the army ... Here's the bad luck ...
          True, these exercises will most likely negatively affect combat training, but what can be done. It’s necessary to check somehow.

          I did not understand the meaning of the last sentence.
      3. servant.
        servant. 5 August 2013 18: 51 New
        +7
        What you didn’t pour on the former minister, but the fighters stopped building summer cottages under him, he began to squeeze thieves with big stars (but the truth is that there’s no place and others started up), but in the army of recruits it became more and more strange ! Thanks to 1 year of service and the abolition of household work and 2 days off. True, all his initiatives were successfully buried by army reality, and now they are reanimated and presented as the merits of the new minister.

        LYSOLIDY !!!
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 5 August 2013 19: 08 New
          +3
          I agree. But Serdyukov should not be idealized. Many of his ideas were really progressive, but execution was out of the ordinary.
    3. avt
      avt 5 August 2013 16: 43 New
      +4
      Quote: leon-iv
      And where does Shoigu have to do with it?

      Elementary - the colonel general wants to be a general in the army, and so he licked.
      1. bask
        bask 5 August 2013 16: 58 New
        13
        Quote: avt
        Elementary - Colonel General wants to be army general, so he licked

        The sad thing about avt is that there are fewer professionals in the army, and more and more lizuns. wassat


        If tomorrow is war, who will command ????

        One SHAMAN in the Airborne Forces professional man !!!
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      3. knn54
        knn54 6 August 2013 13: 17 New
        0
        -avt: Elementary - Colonel General wants to be army general, so he licked.
        Vasily Smirnov, Serdyukov's assistant in the collapse of the mobilization component of the army. His place (at least) is near the "Amazons", and not about the "queue for the army" to be touched. And really the hazing is gone, the food has become better.
        It is good, so far, one thing - Russia is successfully opposing information weapons.
        PS This is how we live: at the beginning "... to the ground, and then", then look for "Who is to blame", and then "What to do".
    4. PPL
      PPL 5 August 2013 21: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: leon-iv
      And where does Shoigu have to do with it?

      All ingenious is simple!
      Comoedov’s appeal to Shoigu about increasing the service life from 1 to 1,5 years is still fresh in my memory. This proposal finds more and more supporters both in the Ministry of Defense and in the State Duma. And where one and a half, there may grow up to 2, or even 3 years, it’s like a chip (Shoigu apparently does not mind, because the contract soldiers will have to be lured into the army for a long time).
      Therefore, many, to get a military ID, are ready to sacrifice a year now, without waiting for benefits in the future ... even in a scientific or sports company.
    5. Suhov
      Suhov 5 August 2013 22: 46 New
      +2



      And where does Shoigu have to do with it?
      wassat
    6. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 August 2013 07: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: leon-iv
      And where does Shoigu have to do with it?
      This is even under the "Bloody Serdyukov"

      And what does Shoig have to do with it, nothing to do with it winked

      Shoigu allowed Serdyukov to ride with a “flasher” ... on it - a black Mercedes with license plate number P483РХ Serdyukov often came to ...
      The official car is indeed at the disposal of the former Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov, ”says an officer of the Main Armored Directorate. He told the newspaper that Shoigu by his order gave Serdyukov the right to use the department’s car equipped with special signals.
      http://www.mk.ru/politics/article/2013/08/05/894436-shoygu-razreshil-serdyukovu-
      ezdit-s-migalkoy.html
  2. svp67
    svp67 5 August 2013 14: 57 New
    +9
    When Shoigu in the army began to line up
    This is of course loudly said, but there is progress in the right direction and this is already pleasing ...
    1. soldat1945
      soldat1945 5 August 2013 19: 43 New
      +3
      Damn especially pinned about HIV-infected and hypertensive, they actually didn’t call them before, and if they leaked into the troops, they immediately dismissed them after UMO, I didn’t understand what Shoigu owed. The next advertisement all that was good listed was added by these obscure scientific companies (what benefit will they bring in one year?) And now the new hero is ready!
  3. Strashila
    Strashila 5 August 2013 15: 00 New
    +4
    "Soldiers prone to drug use, of whom, according to the chief military doctor, 1-1,5% were identified, are now prohibited from being appointed to positions of responsibility, for example, in the Strategic Missile Forces." ... can you imagine the number of thousands of people and this is only in the age a group of 18-27 years old, we put it as a basis for the last ten years ... a crazy figure that does not fit with the official statistics, this is how many times it was necessary to underestimate the drug in the country, but there is still before 18 and after 27 years ...
    1. BARKAS
      BARKAS 5 August 2013 15: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: Strashila
      "Soldiers prone to drug use, of whom, according to the chief military doctor, 1-1,5% were identified

      I came across such when they transferred equipment to the 205th brigade you know everything! there were half a platoon like that!
  4. creak
    creak 5 August 2013 15: 04 New
    +6
    Sportroots - is this really Shoigu's know-how? And in my opinion they were in the Soviet army.
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 5 August 2013 16: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: ranger
      Sportroots - is this really Shoigu's know-how?

      Everything new is well forgotten old. It is one thing to ruin under the guise of reform, another to restore tradition.
  5. alone
    alone 5 August 2013 15: 12 New
    +5
    remembered the cartoon how a fox dressed as a chicken and argued with a chicken about maternal rights over chickens. so one says: -that is our mother, and the other says - no, this is our mother !! AND WHERE THEY ARE THE SAME!
  6. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 5 August 2013 15: 13 New
    +8
    I will not be surprised at such an event that Shoigu S.K. will become the next significant political figure for Russia. As an option, even Putin’s next successor.
    1. Natalia
      Natalia 5 August 2013 15: 28 New
      +7
      Quote: Scandinavian
      I will not be surprised at such an event that Shoigu S.K. will become the next significant political figure for Russia. As an option, even Putin’s next successor.

      And what immediately Shoigu, there is still Rogozin ....
      1. sub307
        sub307 5 August 2013 18: 43 New
        +3
        The options are:
        1. Shoigu is the president.
        Rogozin is the prime minister.
        2. Rogozin is the president.
        Shoigu is the prime minister.
        1. alone
          alone 5 August 2013 18: 47 New
          +2
          it's like money in the morning, chairs in the evening?))))
        2. Revolver
          Revolver 6 August 2013 00: 19 New
          0
          Quote: sub307
          The options are:
          1. Shoigu is the president.
          Rogozin is the prime minister.
          2. Rogozin is the president.
          Shoigu is the prime minister.

          No, not options. Option one, and it's the only one:
          Putin is the president
          Whom Putin will name - the prime minister.
          Although at the end of 2 terms I do not rule out another temporary castling of Putin with conditional Medvedev.
    2. Bort radist
      Bort radist 5 August 2013 17: 00 New
      0
      Quote: Scandinavian
      I will not be surprised at such an event that Shoigu S.K. will become the next significant political figure for Russia. As an option, even Putin’s next successor.

      Quote: Natalia
      And what immediately Shoigu, there is still Rogozin ....

      They will raise the Army and the Cosmos, so be it.
      1. alone
        alone 5 August 2013 18: 47 New
        +1
        and with the rest how?
  7. Djozz
    Djozz 5 August 2013 15: 23 New
    +5
    Those who quit serving in the Armed Forces should be prohibited from enrolling in the civil service before age 27, and those who have served privileges when entering the Higher School. Head on a budget, etc.
  8. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 5 August 2013 15: 30 New
    +1
    Quote: Strashila
    Soldiers prone to drug use, of whom, according to the chief military physician, 1-1,5% were identified, are now prohibited from being appointed to positions of responsibility, for example, in the Strategic Missile Forces. "

    Judging by the article, from the spring draft, 1500-2000 people.
    Quote: leon-iv
    It was during the time of "Bloody Serdyukov" that the popularization and humanization of the service began

    He was not bloody but greedy and the impression that he did not understand the meaning of the army. It may have begun and begun, but without Shoigu's actions, it probably ended.
    1. alone
      alone 5 August 2013 15: 35 New
      +4
      So before these were allowed into the Strategic Missile Forces? belay
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 6 August 2013 00: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Yuri Ya.
      Soldiers prone to drug use, of which, according to the chief military physician, 1-1,5% were identified, it is now forbidden to appoint to responsible posts, for example, in the Strategic Missile Forces.

      And what about gay people? In America, political battles took place on this score, and finally Obama allowed them to serve without hiding their preferences, but on the contrary to make them an object of "pride".
      Although in my politically incorrect opinion, launching a pedicah into the barracks is like a fox in a chicken coop. And if this codec reaches the rank of sergeant's stripes, I really do not envy young soldiers who find themselves in official dependence on such superiors.
  9. runway
    runway 5 August 2013 15: 34 New
    +8
    "Vasya - Vasya" Smirnov with all the ministers said what was required. Therefore, he is working today.
    The numbers can be called any. You can justify any stupidity, but there were no queues in the military enlistment offices. And to say that military service became popular will be possible only when the children of very large bosses serve in the Russian army.
    1. matross
      matross 5 August 2013 15: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: piston
      The numbers can be called any. You can justify any stupidity, but there were no queues in the military enlistment offices.

      This is not stupid. This is propaganda. Without it, nowhere, finally remembered!
  10. ded_73
    ded_73 5 August 2013 15: 42 New
    +1
    "Shoigu allowed Serdyukov to ride with a" flashing light "
    Mercedes remain behind ex-minister
    Former Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Anatoly Serdyukov, dismissed after a scandal with millions of thefts, continues to use the official car of the Ministry of Defense with special signals.
    The former Minister of Defense uses a company car on a common basis, which covers the category of people who have merit to the military department, RBC reports on Monday, citing publications in the Russian press.
    “The official car is indeed at the disposal of the former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov,” says an officer of the Main Armored Directorate. He told the newspaper that by his order Shoigu gave Serdyukov the right to use the department's car equipped with special signals. "(Http://www.mk.ru/politics/article/2013/08/05/894436-shoygu-razreshil-serdyukovu
    -ezdit-s-migalkoy.html).
    Probably in order to be in line first. Do not be late, so to speak ...
    1. svp67
      svp67 5 August 2013 15: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: ded_73
      "Shoigu allowed Serdyukov to ride with a" flashing light "
      Do not flatter yourself, this issue was not resolved by Shoigu, and if "XXX" SOLVES and ORDERS, the same car with a "flashing light" will take the "client" straight to jail ...
      1. ded_73
        ded_73 5 August 2013 16: 01 New
        +1
        All the same, XXX decides, but I thought that even in Russia the prosecutor’s office and the court .. hi .
        1. svp67
          svp67 5 August 2013 16: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: ded_73
          All the same, XXX decides, but I thought that even in Russia the prosecutor’s office and the court
          Alas, not justified ...
    2. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 5 August 2013 16: 03 New
      +3
      Quote: ded_73
      Probably in order to be in line first

      Perhaps I won’t tell you a secret if I inform you that the Minister of Defense belongs to the category protected by the Security Service ... as a serious secret bearer ... for quite a long time. Therefore, he has a car ... and special communications ... and bodyguards ... and movement - strictly under control ...
      1. svp67
        svp67 5 August 2013 16: 29 New
        +6
        Quote: KazaK Bo
        Perhaps I won’t tell you a secret if I inform you that the Minister of Defense belongs to the category protected by the Security Service ... as a serious secret bearer ... for quite a long time.
        Perhaps you are right. But in this case, the episode when Serdyukov "fell out" for a while and persistent rumors went that he went abroad and to the perplexed question, "How can this be?" There was a response from the "competent authorities" "Mr. Serdyukov has the right to freely travel abroad, like any citizen of Russia, since the information he knows does not constitute a state secret" Especially "amused" the fact that for the second year of my pension I had been issued a passport for almost four months , so I know more than the former MO ...
      2. Passer
        Passer 5 August 2013 22: 37 New
        +3
        Quote: KazaK Bo
        Therefore, he has a car ... and special communications ... and bodyguards ... and movement - strictly under control ...

        So they could leave an autosack: both auto, and personal guard, and a special signal, and movement - are strictly under control.
    3. Russ69
      Russ69 5 August 2013 17: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: ded_73
      Mercedes remain behind ex-minister

      MO has already denied:
      MOSCOW, Aug 5 - RIA News. The information that the official car of the military department was provided to the former Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Anatoly Serdyukov does not correspond to reality, the press service and information department of the Russian Ministry of Defense reported on Monday.
      "Anatoly Serdyukov, as a former permanent member of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, currently retains the status of a person who is entitled to state security. At the same time, in accordance with the current legislation of the Russian Federation, transport services to protected persons are organized by state security bodies within the framework of the exercise of their powers," message.

      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/incidents/20130805/954404129.html#13757128262993&message=resize&re
      lto = register & action = addClass & value = registration # ixzz2b6baoJ91
    4. Bort radist
      Bort radist 5 August 2013 20: 05 New
      0
      Quote: ded_73
      Mercedes remain behind ex-minister

      The Ministry of Defense has denied reports that the agency provided the former Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov with an official car. It is reported by ITAR-TASS.

      Thus, the agency commented on the information circulated in the media that Serdyukov was allowed to use the company car.

      - Anatoly Serdyukov, as a former permanent member of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, currently retains the status of a person who is entitled to state protection. At the same time, in accordance with applicable law, transport services for protected persons are organized by state security bodies as part of the exercise of their powers, the press service and information department of the military department said.
  11. Luger
    Luger 5 August 2013 15: 52 New
    +4
    I’m watching on TV now, they talk a lot about the exercises, my nephews returned from the army, the service has become more interesting and informative, life is more organized, food has also become better. Of course, up to some incredible heights, much more needs to be done, but nevertheless there is a reserve for positive. When I served (1999 - 2000), it was much sadder, as if I were not in the army, but visited a labor camp.
  12. Corsair
    Corsair 5 August 2013 15: 58 New
    +1
    Quote from the article:
    Soldiers prone to drug use, of which, according to the chief military physician, 1-1,5% were identified, it is now forbidden to appoint to responsible posts, for example, in the Strategic Missile Forces.

    addicted to drugs
    -a "plain text" of ordinary "junkies", will they still call? And what kind of Army will we have with such "defenders"?
  13. grafrozow
    grafrozow 5 August 2013 16: 00 New
    +4
    We survived, damn migrant workers in the army, it’s easier to create a foreign legion, the French will help us here. Not a word that the army is strong not in quantity but in quality. Turn back 2a. well ... Progress on the face. Merit Shoigu, GDP is preparing a receiver for itself, PR is just beginning ...
  14. Sewer
    Sewer 5 August 2013 16: 14 New
    +5
    The command to lick the ops Shoigu arrived! Let the brigades of the special forces of the airborne forces revive, and I myself will start singing odes to him!
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 5 August 2013 17: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Sewer
      The command to lick the ops Shoigu arrived! Let the brigades of the special forces of the airborne forces revive, and I myself will start singing odes to him!

      Shamanov is engaged in this and, apparently, is heading towards that.
      The leadership of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation supported the proposal of the command of the Airborne Forces (Airborne Forces) to transfer three airborne assault brigades to these troops, Colonel General Vladimir Shamanov, Commander of the Airborne Forces of Russia, told RIA Novosti.

      Now, these three air assault brigades are operatively subordinated to the Southern Military District (56th Guards Separate Air Assault Brigade, Kamyshin) and the Eastern Military District (11th and 83rd Separate Air Assault Brigades, Ulan-Ude and Ussuriysk, respectively) .

      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20130731/953227958.html#13757131418713&message=resi
      ze & relto = register & action = addClass & value = registration # ixzz2b6aaJt3q


      Plus, separate special forces companies will be created in the Airborne Forces.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 5 August 2013 17: 57 New
        +2
        This is completely different
      2. Sewer
        Sewer 5 August 2013 19: 03 New
        +1
        It is absolutely necessary to revive, to create! It is simply necessary!
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  16. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 5 August 2013 16: 23 New
    +3
    Who is now joining the ranks of the army and navy. That's right - mainly from workers and office workers and those from our regional centers who either decided to become a civil servant or didn’t enter a university ... If you are not too lazy to look at the level of earnings in the province, and the cost of living is also there, then you can easily determine with the answer to the question about the reasons for the increase in the prestige of military service. After serving a little, you can go to the contract ... the contractor’s salary is enough to live on his own and help relatives in the village ....
    This is one side of the problem. The other side is the living conditions that are now created for serving our soldiers ... this is heaven and earth compared to what I experienced when I was called into the ranks of the valiant army a week after receiving the certificate of maturity. But now the army is joined by a completely different contingent of conscripts that formed conscripts in the 60s and 70s. We did not know of cases when those who had a criminal record or brought to the police, chronic "junkies and drunkards" would serve next to us. .....
    And so objectively, pluses are being gained in the growth of the prestige of service in the Army.
    1. asadov
      asadov 5 August 2013 17: 05 New
      +1
      I agree. This is the current state of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
  17. aud13
    aud13 5 August 2013 17: 28 New
    +6
    Quote: Sewer
    The command to lick the ops Shoigu arrived! Let the brigades of the special forces of the airborne forces revive, and I myself will start singing odes to him!


    Unfortunately, in 1 year the GRU special forces soldier cannot be trained.
    Recently I read the book "Notes of a Special Forces Officer of the GRU" (Stoderevsky IA) - a very interesting book by the way. In this book, this rather extraordinary and thoughtful, in my opinion, officer, writes that even during the existence of the USSR, he argued with a political worker about comparing the training of "green berets" and the GRU special forces soldiers. At the same time, even in the book, he was not afraid to note that "green berets" have an advantage in training, since they serve not 2 years, but 5-15 years.
    Honestly, I didn’t really like it, but on the other hand, the person who sought to ensure that his units were the best in the GRU special forces brigade probably knows what they are talking about.
    Moreover, in the future, he fought in Afghanistan for 2 years, led at that time, and well led the "Muslim battalion".
    1. Sewer
      Sewer 5 August 2013 19: 01 New
      +2
      I agree! If you do not want to transfer the entire army to two years, then let them at least translate the airborne forces! And I’ll read the book!
    2. yanus
      yanus 6 August 2013 10: 06 New
      0
      Quote: aud13
      Unfortunately, in 1 year the GRU special forces soldier cannot be trained.

      And what, in the GRU special forces directly conscripts are recruited after training?
  18. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 5 August 2013 17: 33 New
    +4
    Russia at all times in its history began to revive precisely with the strengthening of the prestige and power of its Army and Navy !! As soon as we declare "Peace, friendship, disarmament" We are immediately lowered below the plinth, robbed, dismembered ... Strong Army !! Strong Russia both economically and politically ... these are the realities for us in this insidious and corrupt world ..
  19. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 5 August 2013 17: 38 New
    +1
    Queues are lining up for scientific and sports companies, drug addicts in the Strategic Missile Forces will no longer be appointed to responsible positions, the call for guest workers has begun. The main thing: the generals saw in all this "a steady positive trend to improve the army's image"! What are our creative generals.
  20. shurup
    shurup 5 August 2013 17: 39 New
    +4
    General Smirnov since 2002 successfully failed the call and then suddenly fulfilled?
    It is strange that he has not yet been removed from his post. Or promised to take off?
  21. Witch
    Witch 5 August 2013 17: 42 New
    +4
    This makes no sense.
    And then Shoigu and the so-called. "Foreign Legion", which receives citizenship for services ?! Kvashnin pushed this topic back in 2005 ...
  22. Grif
    Grif 5 August 2013 18: 11 New
    +2
    "Sergei Shoigu is one of the most popular politicians in the country." A politician is a nationality. Shoigu is not involved in politics, he does business. Finally!
  23. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 5 August 2013 18: 17 New
    +4
    Everything is correct. The article is an attempt to present everything in a "pink light" beneficial only for the so-called. "reformers". And if you carefully analyze the reasons for the "increase" in the prestige of the army service, it turns out that:
    1) Young people are joining the army from complete hopelessness, for it is impossible to find how much any normally paid work with normal working conditions is. All work is offered on the terms customary for guest workers — seven days a week, sick leave, 12 hours a day, for pennies and with arrogant and shameless managers. Rather than enduring poverty and humiliation in such a job, it is better to endure army difficulties.
    2) Parents, who were previously not averse to hiding their child and feeding him, until he gets rid of the army draft, now they themselves can no longer feed themselves due to a sharp drop in salaries and hidden inflation. Now, every mouth is a burden to them, they simply cannot afford to keep a big age child on their current salary for a long time.
    3) Young people have no prospects in "civilian life". A system has formed in Russia where all "money" jobs are occupied either by relatives, or friends, or close associates. It's just impossible to get to a decent place from the street, and it is also impossible to make a career without family or other ties. There are no social elevators for the common population in the country, and all my life carrying sacks of potatoes in a warehouse or a store, or standing on a conveyor belt, no, thank you, it's better and easier to serve the ranks in the army.
    So what is the so-called. the increased "prestige" of the army service is just an indicator of the ever greater stagnation of our economy and the rapid impoverishment of the majority of the country's population.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 5 August 2013 19: 29 New
      0
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      It’s just impossible to get a decent place from the street

      Work in the country in bulk, if you are ready to work, you also need a "decent place" where you do nothing and get money.
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      and all my life to carry bags of potatoes in a warehouse or in a store, or to stand on a conveyor, no, thank you, it's better and easier to serve in the army.

      Everyone wants to be commanders, and nobody wants to work!
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat

      A cry from the soul of a loafer who couldn’t settle in a warm place and was forced to earn his living by honest labor.
      Why Spain
      1. omsbon
        omsbon 5 August 2013 21: 00 New
        0
        Quote: Setrac
        Screaming soul loafer

        What a loafer is noticeable to the naked eye, and indeed a cry of the soul.
  24. Waroc
    Waroc 5 August 2013 18: 30 New
    +5
    Something like that, well, absolutely rosy, it doesn’t happen with us. Our military commissariat commanders are cunning!
    They have a competition in sports and scientific companies - well done, get hurt. And now let them enlighten on the topic - how are things with the queues in ordinary units and subunits. Sports companies in earlier times were considered quite thieves places, and now scientific companies have been added to them - one hell - this is not the Army!

    PS - Comrades, think what is being presented to us! And do not generalize particulars to the entire army !!!
    1. grafrozow
      grafrozow 5 August 2013 20: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: Waroc
      Something like that, well, absolutely rosy, it doesn’t happen with us. Our military commissariat commanders are cunning!
      They have a competition in sports and scientific companies - well done, get hurt. And now let them enlighten on the topic - how are things with the queues in ordinary units and subunits. Sports companies in earlier times were considered quite thieves places, and now scientific companies have been added to them - one hell - this is not the Army!

      PS - Comrades, think what is being presented to us! And do not generalize particulars to the entire army !!!
      The queue is also in the ensembles of songs and dances, also a service, but what about submariners and border guards, the same competition for 3 people in one place?
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      2. Waroc
        Waroc 5 August 2013 21: 10 New
        0
        In-in and I about the same, and the same thing in the same place))) Presenters are cunning, oh cunning ...
  25. waisson
    waisson 5 August 2013 18: 33 New
    +4
    who is the last one to join me, otherwise I would go but age in the city of Saratov I don’t see the queue for the army from the army, but how they smeared and smeared
  26. pensioner
    pensioner 5 August 2013 18: 42 New
    +1
    Quote: leon-iv
    then how many dates stole Vasilyeva nervously smokes aside.

    I remembered, though not in the same way ... EVAKU. Year about 1999. We had such a financial genius, Mr. Menkin. Jew. Civilian. Not a combatant by definition. I got drunk in school quickly. And then one day I walk through the Headquarters. I see the following picture: Menskin's cap is walking, looking to the side, belt to the other, tie on his back. In general, the major is still the same! And suddenly he met our new beginning. school n-k (at that time) Shpanagel with his retinue! Already under ... Shpanagel to Menkin: "Stop !!!" He got up. as he could portray a military greeting. When he was drunk he tried to say something, but Spanagel stopped him, straightened his cap and tie. belt. buttoned his collar, straightened his stance and said: "Well, Menkin! Let's give it to the body, we won't drink one day! Get out of here nah ...!"
  27. Siberian
    Siberian 5 August 2013 18: 55 New
    +3
    Youngsters both mowed from the army and mowed. As the workers and peasants walked, they are doing so, of course, there is an exception, but they are few. It’s only that all kinds of companies are created there. So this is not a service, but work only in uniform, well, something like that.
    1. servant.
      servant. 5 August 2013 18: 59 New
      +3
      Well, for whom and why are all companies created, this is another question ....
  28. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 5 August 2013 19: 15 New
    +7
    Well, thank God ! I’ll tell my daughter that the machine gun can still be preserved.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 5 August 2013 20: 15 New
      0
      Quote: a.hamster55
      I’ll tell my daughter that the machine gun can still be preserved.

      In a garden in a greenhouse with tomatoes, at a depth of 1 meter? And the zinc in the greenhouse with cucumbers? winked But they will not find?recourse
  29. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 5 August 2013 19: 37 New
    +5
    A new rubric "I ask and answer myself" In the Air Force, how many times did servicemen fire from grenade launchers, 0, how many times they threw hand grenades, 0. And this even in aircraft security units! Take us warm! A SHAME TO THE COMMANDERS!
    1. Passer
      Passer 5 August 2013 22: 56 New
      +1
      In the mid - late 90s he served at a well-known airfield. I did not see any grenade launchers at all !, only at the Marines. There were as many as 20 grenades for the entire unit, how to use them we conducted one lesson with throwing 2 training grenades. There were not enough soldiers in the company of guards, and the lieutenants went to the belt "every other day".
      The middle - the end of the 90s, not far from independent Chechnya.
  30. taseka
    taseka 5 August 2013 19: 38 New
    +3
    Hm! First, Tajiks were recruited for construction sites, now they are in the Army! Leapfrog turns out - under Serdyukov they wanted to buy rackets for badminton, then scientific companies create - it's clear to the fool what kind of "scientific" they are Damn !!!
  31. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 5 August 2013 20: 23 New
    -2
    Probably such a high because today is Monday, you didn't get enough sleep or it was difficult at work. The most interesting thing about Serdyukov is "praised" by those who were not in the army with him. If the commander was in his place, then Taburetkin did not interfere with him, and if not in place, then ... I saw in many units, I handed over equipment to them, there is something to compare with. And I envy Shoigu - a person who is necessary and, to some extent, does what he loves. This is a person who can say-FOR POWER OFFENSIVE!
  32. michajlo
    michajlo 5 August 2013 20: 27 New
    0
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    Everything is correct. The article is an attempt to present everything in a "pink light" beneficial only for the so-called. "reformers". And if you carefully analyze the reasons for the "increase" in the prestige of the army service, it turns out that:
    1) Young people are joining the army from complete hopelessness, because to find how ...
    2) Parents who were previously not averse to hiding their child and feed him, until he gets rid of the army draft, now they themselves can no longer feed themselves ...
    3) Young people have no prospects in "civilian life". A system has formed in Russia where all "money" jobs are occupied either by relatives, or acquaintances, or close associates ...
    So what is the so-called. the increased "prestige" of the army service is just an indicator of the ever greater stagnation of our economy and the rapid impoverishment of the majority of the country's population.

    Good day to all! Can disagree with the analysis of the reasons for the appearance of interest in youth in military service from the author of the cited note, but in my opinion, 65-85% he is right aboutthat despite the relatively good position of Russia, unlike Belarus and Kazakhstan,
    - problems of employment and a sharp increase in expenses for ordinary (non-luxurious) lifel both among young people and middle-aged and older-present and strengthened in Russia.
    High-tech production, R&D, science, medicine, etc. are rolling downhill / or have already fallen "below the plinth", staff capable and proactive for creative creative work (I do not include office plankton and reformers / effective managers, traders and speculators here), are engaged in other non-core activities (in order to survive and feed my family), or have gone abroad for permanent residence, and much more, very unpatriotic, but present in real life Russia and all other countries of the CU (and the CIS).
    No matter how the fact itself is that more recruits are joining the army, it is gratifying, but if they were to be prepared from them during this time and experienced warriors, it would be just beauty.
    On the other hand, for 1.years of the Armed Forces, a soldier will not take in much, perhaps a "contract Armed Forces" with a guaranteed pension and medical care can do a lot? I don't know, I'm an amateur in these matters, but I wish constant increase of combat readiness and professionalism of the RF Armed Forces, not only with laudatory reports "on the benefits" of the new REFORMER, especially when a lot began to be done before him.
  33. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 5 August 2013 20: 31 New
    +3
    Dear PENSIONER! Well, we won’t dig without shovels, and it’s best to hide the leaves - IN THE FOREST.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 5 August 2013 20: 44 New
      +1
      I am silent. Not a professional ...
  34. 2k11
    2k11 5 August 2013 20: 45 New
    +4
    It is possible that the popularization of military service began under Serdyukov ...., but
    Here is such a small example: the youth camp at the RVDKU "Young Paratrooper" this year resumed its work after a 5-year break

    My son (12 years old) went there with pleasure, today he called, he says they fired from machine guns, he even says he got there)
  35. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 5 August 2013 20: 57 New
    +4
    Uncle General, take me as a volunteer to the scientific company. I saw the engine, I can clean the microscope with GOI paste. wassat
  36. aud13
    aud13 5 August 2013 21: 37 New
    +3
    Quote: Sewer
    I agree! If you do not want to transfer the entire army to two years, then let them at least translate the airborne forces! And I’ll read the book!

    I heard about this book here on the site from one of the users. And before that, also on the "recommendation" I downloaded from the torrent the book of Ivan Shumilin "Vanka company" (although this is not a book even in full form).
    If you haven’t read, then look - I liked it.
    In general, I already had a thought - that it would be nice if this site would have a library of books on military subjects written by people from which there is something to be learned.
  37. Van
    Van 5 August 2013 22: 09 New
    +3
    Quote: aud13
    In general, I already had a thought - that it would be nice if this site would have a library of books on military subjects written by people from which there is something to be learned.

    Sensible idea, fully support good
    1. castle
      castle 5 August 2013 23: 51 New
      0
      And specifically? The names of the authors? Budyonny or Skorzeny? Brezhnev or Patton?
  38. castle
    castle 5 August 2013 23: 49 New
    -3
    And he introduced a new udba form. Ministry of Emergencies repainted in green. Saved. There was probably a lot of finished goods in the warehouses, but they just dipped them in the green stuff and it was ready. And all this (Serdyukov and Shoigu) without the knowledge of the Commander-in-Chief or with his blessing?
  39. servant.
    servant. 6 August 2013 00: 09 New
    +2
    Quote: michajlo
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    Everything is correct. The article is an attempt to present everything in a "pink light" beneficial only for the so-called. "reformers". And if you carefully analyze the reasons for the "increase" in the prestige of the army service, it turns out that:
    1) Young people are joining the army from complete hopelessness, because to find how ...
    2) Parents who were previously not averse to hiding their child and feed him, until he gets rid of the army draft, now they themselves can no longer feed themselves ...
    3) Young people have no prospects in "civilian life". A system has formed in Russia where all "money" jobs are occupied either by relatives, or acquaintances, or close associates ...
    So what is the so-called. the increased "prestige" of the army service is just an indicator of the ever greater stagnation of our economy and the rapid impoverishment of the majority of the country's population.



    Ha! But here I do not agree! I myself serve and I communicate with the fighters a lot.
    1.Many of the last 2-3 years of graduates of higher educational institutions have come and there is no hope, many employers have recently been reluctant to take jobs without a military card.
    2. The service does not shine without urgency.
    3. Young people without education in the majority go to the contract, they are attracted by salaries and military mortgages (thanks to Serdyukov)
    I didn’t hear about hopelessness in civilian life from fighters, much less about starving parents ..
  40. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy 6 August 2013 00: 19 New
    +4
    Sports uniform, mobile phones, two days off, separate showers, lack of household work and many others. etc. And of course 1 year of service.
    Is it too resort. He himself served in 2000 - 2002. Both before and after the army he always believed that our army is strong in the first place by the strength of the spirit, which is tempered in all kinds of hardships and hardships. And there is an oath about it.
    I talked with both officers and guys who served or employees for the last two years. Everything suggests that today's youth in the army are greatly spoiled by human rights and the care of the "Soldier's Mothers". Sometimes officers are already afraid to even raise their voices. I myself was a soldier, but I understand that we had just been called up from different parts of Russia, with different characters and upbringing, were nothing more than a crowd of bullies. After all, the army is not only shooting ranges and exercises, but also a harsh life. I would not be surprised if, after a couple of generations of conscripts, our soldiers refuse to go into battle until fresh socks are brought to them.
    1. Letnab
      Letnab 6 August 2013 04: 10 New
      +1
      Well, the harsh way of life during the service should not be indicated by the mockery of grandfathers, officers, but I think more about combat training, field conditions, sports, the study of weapons and equipment. To the soldier felt that he was busy with business!
  41. niksup
    niksup 6 August 2013 08: 03 New
    0
    It doesn’t matter at whom the changes began, the respect of society to the minister is much more important. But Shoigu gained respect even when he was Minister of Emergencies.
  42. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 6 August 2013 09: 44 New
    0
    Немного о Шойгу.....http://wap.bg.borda.ru/?1-3-45-00000142-000-10001-0
    winked
  43. 1961NNN
    1961NNN 6 August 2013 09: 53 New
    +2
    Smirnov should be fired - this is with his connivance, the system of military commissariats is broken! He was silent and sat still! Goremykin and Pankov should also be fired - they assented to Serdyuk and "finished" - the officer corps! Again, NOBODY IS TO BE GUILTY! AND NOBODY WILL RESPOND FOR HUGE MISSES AND CRIMINAL ERRORS!
    1. military
      military 6 August 2013 12: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: 1961NNN
      He was silent and sat down!

      many "great silencers" have sat down to our times ... yes
  44. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 6 August 2013 10: 01 New
    0
    Quote: bask
    in, and more and more slogans.

    And when they were gone ... eh? ... hi
  45. Commander
    Commander 6 August 2013 10: 50 New
    +2
    Based on the foregoing, we can conclude: 1. This is not the merit of Shoigu; 2. Younger still goes to the Army, there are fewer mowers; 3. The authority of the Army and service is increasing. There is more positive.
  46. Marek Rozny
    Marek Rozny 9 August 2013 13: 49 New
    0
    For a long time it was necessary to appoint the Horde as the Minister of Defense)))) Where in the CIS are they most willing to join the army? In Kazakhstan and Tatarstan, what the kagbe hints at))) Tuvan Shoigu from the Ministry of Emergency Situations made "almost an army", now he will make an Army out of the army.
    It is a pity that there are so many pessimists on the site. Personally, I believe that Sergei Shoigu will bring everything to mind and do everything as needed.