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Geopolitical mosaic: Nasrallah emerged from the bunker, az-Zavahiri accused Washington of overthrowing Mursi, and Senator Feinstein considers Mexico, the United States and Canada to be one state

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Victory is drawing near. “How America bribed Syrian police.” - Nasrallah went out to breathe. - Rowhani took the oath. - Baghdad does not want Kharkov Bateers. - The Minister of Defense of Egypt spoke with the Islamists. - Ayman al-Zawahiri revealed the plot of the crusaders and atheists. - Transportation is unprofitable. - About the BRICS Development Bank. - South Korea: upgrade underwater fleet. - 2240 documents on crimes of the times of the Second World War are declassified. - Poland will be the strongest in Europe. “New disclosures from Comrade Snowden.” - “Delete my Data!” - How Helmut Kohl drove the Turks from Germany. - Breivik is temporarily transferred to Skien Prison. - Visit to Liberty Island. - A new reason for American resentment. - How Putin put the United States in an "uncomfortable position." - The oppressed America complains to the progressive British newspaper. - Facebook gays decided to send a dildo to Putin. - Hollywood, help! “The failed meeting in Guantanamo.” - The Pentagon will refuse to purchase F-35? - Will be cut and fired. - Far Right Tsarnaev. - United States of America and Mexico.


Geopolitical mosaic: Nasrallah emerged from the bunker, az-Zavahiri accused Washington of overthrowing Mursi, and Senator Feinstein considers Mexico, the United States and Canada to be one state


Victory is coming. The conflict in Syria can be completed within a few months if the population helps the Syrian army restore order, Bashar Assad said. This tells correspondent RIA "News" Nadim Zuaui.

According to the president, the army achieves the greatest success in those areas where it is actively supported by the residents.

“All the problems we are facing now are related to security issues, they can be solved only by defeating terrorism. Therefore, if we win the people's war, Syria will be able to overcome this crisis within a few months, ”said Assad.

He expressed the hope that “Syria will be restored” by the next month of Ramadan.

How America bribed the Syrian police. The Conflict and Stabilization Bureau of the US Department of State has spent ten million dollars as pay to the Syrian police. The bribed were to become deserters and then ensure security in the “liberated zone”. The director of the bureau, Rick Barton, told about this at the July 19 Security Forum in Aspen, the network writes Voltaire (translation source - "Translation").

Mr. Barton said that every policeman received at least 150 euros per month.

It is noted that since the beginning of the Syrian conflict, the US Congress approved aid to the rebels in the amount of 50 million dollars, but only part of these funds was spent.

Nasrallah went out to breathe. Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, for the first time in the last two years, left the bunker. He attended an event held in the Dahia al-Janubiyah quarter, a southern suburb of Beirut, on the occasion of the “Day of Jerusalem”, newsru.co.il with reference to Naharnet.com.

At the speech, the sheikh said that Israel represents a threat not only to a Palestinian state, but also to the whole world. "Israel," he said, "threatens the existence of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and they hope for its disappearance."

The leader of Hezbollah said that when he talks about Palestine, he means the region "from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River." According to him, this land must return to its rightful owners.

Sheikh also praised Ayatollah Khomeini, who called Israel a "cancer tumor", for a precise definition. Nasrallah added that the cancer was spreading rapidly, and the only thing that could save the patient was immediate surgery.

Finally, he stated that the “Iranian threat” is a fictitious problem that distracts world attention from the problems of the Israeli occupation.

Rouhani took the oath. Yesterday, the inauguration of the new Iranian President, Hassan Rouhani, took place in Tehran on Sunday. According to Interfax With reference to the BBC, the ceremony was held in parliament.

For the first time since the Islamic revolution 1979, the Iranian authorities have invited foreign guests to the inauguration ceremony. The Russian delegation at the ceremony was headed by the Chairman of the State Duma of the Russian Federation Sergey Naryshkin.

Baghdad doesn’t want Kharkov beteers. In the Persian Gulf, a ship with Ukrainian armored vehicles “hangs out” for three months, writes newsru.co.il with reference to Dumskaya.net.

According to an unnamed source, in Baghdad, APCs manufactured by the Kharkov plant were seen and declared that they would not unload such products. Now the ship is waiting for the conflict to be settled at the top. “Se Pacifica” is anchored in neutral waters, at approximately equal distance from Kuwait, Iran and Iraq.

Dumskaya.net notes that exporters - Ukrspetsexport, Ukroboronservis and Progress - do not pay the shipowner for a simple vessel.

Egyptian Defense Minister talked to Islamists. Egyptian Defense Minister and First Deputy Prime Minister Abdel Fattah al-Sisi met with leaders of Islamist movements to discuss the end of mass protests in the country. On the eve of the supporters of Mohammed Mursi called the condition for the beginning of the dialogue the resignation of al-Sisi, reports Ivan Tretyakov ("Voice of Russia").

On the negotiations announced a representative of the Ministry of Defense of Egypt, Ahmed Ali. “There are still chances for a peaceful settlement of the crisis, provided that all parties give up violence,” he quoted al-Sisi’s statement.

Earlier, supporters of Mursi from the “National Bloc in Support of Legality” stated that they would engage in dialogue only if they left Abdel Fattah al-Sisi’s political arena.

Ayman al-Zavahiri uncovered a conspiracy of the Crusaders and atheists. The head of al-Qaeda has accused the United States of plotting the overthrow of Mohammed Mursi. Statement of this, reports "Lenta.ru" with reference to France-Presse, az-Zawahiri made during the audio message, released on August 3.

The removal of the Egyptian president from power, he said, was organized by “crusaders, atheists and the Americanized army with money from the Gulf countries and at the behest of the United States.”

Transportation is unprofitable. At the end of the peacekeeping mission in Afghanistan, the Bundeswehr will take with it less than half of the military equipment. The German Defense Ministry considered it unprofitable to transport a significant part of the arsenal, reports Sergey Kosyakov ("Deutsche Welle"), referring to Der Spiegel.

After the withdrawal of German soldiers at the end of 2014, the military property of the Bundeswehr at 150 million euros will remain in Afghanistan. Only 47% of military equipment and equipment will be sent to Germany. The rest is planned to be sold, handed over to the Afghan National Army or scrapped.

The German Ministry of Defense set the criteria for further use of the German military arsenal. For example, heavy armored cars “Dingo” and BMP “Marder” will be loaded onto Antonov military transport planes and sent to Turkey, and from there they will be transported by sea to the German port of Emden. But the army SUV «Wolf» two years of operation, it was decided not to take. Their current price today is lower than the purchase, so their transportation in Germany will be unprofitable.

About the BRICS Development Bank. At a meeting in Delhi on 1-2 on August, the delegations of the BRICS member countries agreed on issues related to the structure of the distributed capital of the BRICS Development Bank, writes Artyom Sanzhiev ("Russian newspaper").

The meeting was attended by deputy finance ministers, representatives of foreign ministries and national banks.

Russian Deputy Finance Minister Sergei Storchak, who heads the Russian delegation at the talks, said: “Given that it was already decided at the political level that the expediency of creating a Development Bank is not in doubt, the task of the delegations is to find a balance of interests from the general political context, go to the specific conditions for the creation of this bank. Today there is an agreement in principle between the countries that we do not highlight the problems that have yet to be resolved, but we are talking about what we have already been able to achieve. This is, above all, a decision on the capital structure. At a minimum, the capital will consist of two parts - the paid part and the demand part. ”

An important decision that the countries agreed upon at the forum: the BRICS bank will be open for other participants to join it. Further negotiations will continue.

In addition to the capital structure, the bank management structure was also discussed.

“An agreement has been reached on the structure of government bodies. There will be a governing board, a board of directors and a management. This is a classic formula, there is nothing special here, but nevertheless it was necessary to agree on this. On the distribution of capital among the participants, the discussion will continue, we have not yet placed a dot on the "i". There are different approaches to this topic, ”said Storchak.

According to him, the parties decided to proceed with the elaboration of the draft constituent documents.

South Korea: upgrade of the submarine fleet. Nine submarines with a tonnage of 3000 tonnes to 2030 year and the same submarine class 1800 tonnes to 2018 year - this is the main content of the submarine development plan approved by the South Korean government. As a result of the upgrade, the submarine forces of Seoul will constitute at least 70 percent of the similar capabilities of the neighboring major powers: China, Japan, North Korea and Russia. This was reported by the South Korean media, referring to an anonymous source in the Ministry of Defense, reports Oleg Kiryanov ("Russian newspaper").

On August 4, a source in the South Korean Defense Ministry said: “Our Navy is planning for the period from 2020 to 2030. to build and put on combat duty nine submarines of the KSS-III class with a displacement of three thousand tons. ”

Experts note that in the case of the "three thousandth" submarines South Korea will significantly enhance its ability to conduct combat operations under water. currently on duty in southerners, sumbarins with a displacement of 1200 tons (209 class) and 1800 tons (214 class) cannot carry cruise missiles and the latest torpedoes on board. Submarines with a displacement of 3000 tons will be armed with submarine-to-ground cruise missiles and other types weapons.

Diesel submarines of the KSS-III class will be able to stay under water much longer than submarines of the 214 class with a displacement of 1800 tons. A source told reporters: “Submarines in 1800 tons can be underwater without surfacing 10 times as long as ships with a displacement of 1200 tons. The class in 3000 tons, although not in 10 times longer may be compared to 1800-tons, but still much longer. "

It also became known that before the 2018, the South Korean Navy would receive an additional six more submarines with a displacement of 1800 tons. Thus, the total number of ships of this class will be brought to nine.

Today, the South Korean Navy has 12 submarines in service: 9 with a displacement of 1200 tons and three more with 1800 tons. In general, the Southerners decided that they would bring the total number of submarine fleets to 20 submarines.

In Seoul, it is noted that its submarine fleet is inferior to the fleet of the nearest powers: Russia, China, Japan and North Korea. The latter, according to Seoul, has about 60-70 submarines.

“We came to the conclusion that in order to maintain the balance of power, our submarine fleet should average 60-70 percent of the sumbarin fleets of our neighbors. Based on this assumption, we set the bar in 20 submarines with a corresponding qualitative improvement in Sumbarin, ”said an employee of the South Korean Ministry of Defense.

Declassified 2240 documents about the crimes of the Second World War. The UN Archives in New York declassified 2200 war crimes documents from World War II in Europe and Asia. About this, with reference to sources in the world organization reports the Associated Press.

It tells the correspondent. "Rossiyskaya Gazeta" Alexander Samozhnev, the representative of the UN Secretary-General Martin Nesirki said that from now on these archives will be open to experts and scholars who specialize in international criminal law.

The International Criminal Court has confirmed that 2240 documents will be added to the previously open base of the institution. They contain the minutes of meetings of the UN Commission for the Investigation of War Crimes, correspondence with subordinate departments and material on the war criminal trials in a number of countries.

Protocols on the activities of the United Nations commission for the investigation of war crimes, which ceased operations in March 1948, are still kept closed to public access.

Poland will be the strongest in Europe. Mark Adomanis ("Forbes"; abbreviated translation source - "Inopressa") writes about the reduction of defense costs in the "new Europe".

With the beginning of the financial crisis, the defense expenditures of new members of NATO began to fall steadily. The Stockholm Institute for Peace Studies provided a schedule of total defense spending for the Czech Republic, Romania, Slovenia, Slovakia, Albania, Hungary, Lithuania, Estonia, Bulgaria, Croatia and Latvia for the period from 2000 to 2012 a year. It turns out that the armed forces of Eastern European countries were crushed due to their desire to save; as a result, defense expenditures decreased by 14% compared to 2000 year.

“It makes no sense to remind that the region was hardly a military hegemon in 2000, and therefore this significant reduction indicates an almost complete cessation of the existence of military facilities,” notes Mark Adomanis.

New NATO members are not ready to make substantial military contributions. The countries of Eastern Europe, it seems, have learned, the author believes, that NATO can become a free pleasure obtained at the expense of American taxpayers.

The author writes that Poland is not on the list, whose defense expenditures increased in 2000-2012 by 50%.

New exposures from comrade Snowden. The German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung and the NDR television and radio company published a new material based on Snowden's revelations. The largest telecommunications companies in the UK and the USA not only “merged” the personal data of users to the authorities, but also developed spyware for them, the channel notes "RT".

The main figure in the revelations was once again the UK Government Communications Center (GCHQ). The largest British mobile operators and network providers shared with the authorities not only information about the content of telephone conversations, email and data from the personal pages of users in Facebook, but also developed their own spyware for GCHQ.

In the list of seven telecommunications corporations spying in favor of the UK, one is American. Each of them has its own code name. The British Vodafone Cable appears as Gerontic, the second name of British Telecommunications is Remedy. Verizon Business, a US corporation, calls Dacron.

The Guardian newspaper notes that telecommunications companies had no choice: the British government forced them to cooperate with the Center for Government Communications. In particular, businessmen were threatened with large losses in the market.

Earlier it became known that GCHQ has developed an innovative technology for the use of optical cables, thanks to which it is possible to store information up to 30 days. Thus, the experts have enough time for analysis. The “Tempora” data systematization operation takes more than 18 months.

However, this program is only part of the two UK government programs, called Internet Development and Global Telecommunication Networks Research. Companies providing the British government with access to data have tens of thousands of kilometers of fiber optic cable, including the one that lies across the seabed.

The declassified materials indicate that the providers were rewarded for developing spyware programs that help GCHQ spy on the Internet on their own.

Channel "RT" notes that Edward Snowden stopped exposing - in accordance with the conditions put forward by the Russian government in exchange for asylum. Publications of classified materials are now being created on the basis of documents previously transmitted by the exposer to the Western media.

"Delete my Data!" The agreement on the exchange of data from 1968, concluded by Germany with the United States and the United Kingdom, is now terminated. The parties exchanged corresponding notes, reports Margarita Kalts ("Deutsche Welle").

According to dpa, Germany terminates the agreement on monitoring the country's telecommunications networks, which was concluded in 1968 with the United States, France and the United Kingdom. According to a statement by the German Foreign Ministry, published on 2 in August, the German government sent a corresponding document to Washington, London and Paris. The relevant notes have been exchanged with the United States and the United Kingdom. By mutual agreement with the United States and the United Kingdom, the previous agreements expire.

German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said: "Cancellation of the agreement, caused by the events of recent weeks, has become a necessary and correct result of disputes over the protection of privacy."

Agency dpa notes that Paris has not yet agreed to terminate the agreement.

How Helmut Kohl Turks expelled from Germany. The British government declassified the minutes of the meetings of Helmut Kohl and Margaret Thatcher, reports Cyrus Kalinina ("Voice of Russia").

Minutes of the meeting Kohl and Thatcher (PREM 19 / 1036) lay in the British archives classified as “secret” for thirty years. Spiegel online has published some details.

"The Chancellor said, (...) In the next four years, the number of Turks must be reduced by 50 percent, but we cannot speak about this openly yet," the protocol says 28 of the year from October 1982. And further: "Such a number of Turks, as today, it will be impossible to accept in Germany."

At that time, about 1,5 million immigrants from Turkey lived in Germany. Seeing problems with the integration of the Turkish population, Kohl paid priority attention to the problem of “incapable and unwilling to integrate” migrants.

In 1983, the “Law on the Temporary Encouragement of Foreigners Who Want to Return to Their Homeland” was issued. For the return home Turks were promised 10500 deutsche marks and a pension. Interestingly, such promises have seduced 100 thousands of people, who were quickly replaced by tens of thousands of refugees who arrived.

Breivik is temporarily transferred to Skien Prison. Anders Breivik is temporarily transferred from Ila prison to Skien prison. This was reported today by the TV company En-er-ko, reports ITAR-TASS.

In Shiena, the terrorist will be placed in the office with the highest security measures. “This decision was made in early June. This is nothing special. The fact that such “difficult” prisoners can be transferred to other prisons for a time is a common practice, ”explained the representative of the Norwegian Prisons Department, Jan Erik Sandley.

Visit to Liberty Island. Three Russian warships, including the missile cruiser “Moscow”, arrived in Cuba with a friendly visit, writes "InoTV" with reference to the Global Post. This visit of the ships of the Russian Navy to the "communist island" was the first in the last four years, the newspaper notes.

In the port of Havana, the ships were met by thousands of spectators. He played the ship's orchestra. Today, the entrance to the cruiser "Moscow" will be open to tourists.

New reason for American resentment. The decision to grant Edward Snowden refuge in Russia caused a surge in anti-Russian sentiment among representatives of the US political elite. Interestingly, critics of Moscow’s actions were offended not so much by the fact that Snowden will remain on the territory of the Russian Federation for at least a year, but rather on how quickly the Federal Migration Service made this decision, notes Evgeny Shestakov ("Russian newspaper").

“Washington seems to have hoped that Moscow would not definitively determine the fate of the fugitive before the arrival of President Barack Obama to the Russian capital. In this case, there was a chance that the head of the White House, in a personal conversation, would try to convince Vladimir Putin to sacrifice Snowden in order to preserve a ghostly reset in Russian-American relations.

But the Russian side has been ahead of the curve, in essence, by putting the topic of asylum for the former American spy behind the brackets of the upcoming talks. Thus, the White House was faced with a difficult choice - to return the times of the “cold war” and defiantly abandon Obama's visit to Moscow or not to aggravate relations and discuss issues that are really important for the two countries. Moreover, the President of Russia spoke unequivocally regarding the future plans of Snowden: "He should not continue to harm our American partners."


Now, the question of Obama’s trip to Moscow has acquired an internal political character for the US president. If Obama refuses to visit Moscow, he will thereby demonstrate the weakness of his position inside the country and his own dependence on the opinion of the functionaries of the competitive Republican Party, in particular, on the opinion of Senator McCain.

In addition, the observer notes, when the president of a country that Russia calls its partner refuses to visit Moscow, this cannot but affect Russian-American relations for years to come.

As told "RT" journalist and expert Dmitry Babich, the situation with Snowden repeats the scenario of the Cold War, but now Russia and the United States have changed roles. Russia is hiding a man who has spoken the truth, and the United States is pursuing him. That is what causes the wrath of Washington.

According to the journalist, the US concerns about the fact that Snowden may reveal some secrets are groundless: "I think that those secrets that he could reveal are revealed in Hong Kong as well." In this regard, the expert notes, Snowden can not cause any "material damage" to the States. According to the journalist, we are more likely talking about moral damage: "That is why they are so angry with him in their homeland."

"The anger from the United States is completely unjustified," the expert said, explaining that the United States "would absolutely do the same if they had a Russian" lover of the truth "who would have revealed some truth about Russian special services."

“I think that the wrath of the United States, it is primarily due to the fact that in the situation with Snowden, America and Russia seemed to have changed their roles that they played during the Cold War. Now it turns out that Russia plays the very role that the United States played in the 70 or 80 years: Russia harbors, gives shelter to the truth-seeker, a man who told the truth, and the United States is following him, ”the journalist said.

This reassignment of roles “enrages Washington” and above all infuriates Obama, who positions himself as a human rights activist and a proponent of democratic freedoms. “For Obama, this is a blow to reputation and an unpleasant situation in general,” Babich said.

The journalist believes that everything will depend on the reaction in Washington.

According to Babich, if the United States follows the path of "democratization and glasnost", "Snowden will be forgiven," and "the problem will be solved by itself."

If the United States someday really follows the path of democratization, we add on our own, then they should remember to thank the Russians for that.

How Putin put the United States in an "awkward position." Joseph Joffe ("The Wall Street Journal"; source abbr. translation - "Inopressa") spoke about the "foreign policy retreat" of Barack Obama.

Why in the “Snowden case” V. Putin turned the nose of the USA? Because he was able to do this, the author writes, reading the course "US foreign policy" at Stanford University.

History with Edward Snowden, the scientist calls "the greatest failure of the American counterintelligence" since the time of the spouses Rosenberg, who transferred nuclear know-how to Stalin.

According to the author, at the disposal of Russia - Snowden hard drives, and on them - "more secrets of the United States than a whole battalion of spies could steal."

“Putin’s power is to endlessly put the United States in an uncomfortable position by publishing the tidbits from Snowden’s treasury, or threatening to do so in order to force Washington into exemplary behavior.”

Joffe also notes: "The Russian leader, from the very inauguration of Obama in 2009, was testing his weak points: first, of course, not believing his eyes, and then more sassy."

The first manifestation of weakness is the author of the article announcing Obama's speech in Cairo in 2009. Then there was the refusal to deploy US missile defense in Europe. The Kremlin and Tehran noticed that Obama actually refused to strike at Iran’s nuclear facilities.

Russia, on the contrary, “throws off the glove” of the USA, the author writes, implying the supply of weapons to Bashar Assad.

What will happen to America?

And she leaves "from the table of the great powers." Joffe prophesies: the United States has taken an unprecedented position, and now "the dominant superpower offers to neutralize itself — the efforts of the enemies are not obligatory."

In the same way, let us add, it was at the dawn of Gorbachev's “perestroika”. Washington, and indeed the entire West as a whole, also could not believe that Moscow surrenders itself, that “the efforts of the enemies are not obligatory”. Now the whole question for America is that Obama does not want to identify himself with Gorbachev - and learn from someone else's example.

Oppressed America complains about a progressive British newspaper. The American congressmen are outraged: the authorities of the country did not provide them with information about the secret NSA surveillance programs. And if so, then the congressmen decided to complain to the British newspaper "Guardian", transmit "Vesti".

Congressman Morgan Griffith sent four requests, but all remained unanswered. A month ago, his colleague Alan Grayson distributed to the House of Representatives slides about NSA programs that were published by the Guardian: he wanted to hold a debate. But the newspaper slides, open wide ruble, were immediately ... classified!

Not only in Congress are outraged by the policy of the White House.

Protests against e-surveillance programs on Sunday gathered hundreds of people in more than 20 cities in the country. Demonstrations were held under the slogan “Restore the Fourth!” (I mean the 4-i amendment to the US Constitution).

Facebook gays decided to send a dildo to Putin. Due to the adoption of the law on the propaganda of homosexuality in Russia, Vladimir Putin is getting more and more negative. The other day an action took place near the Russian consulate in San Francisco: protesters led by Scott Anansi Rossi stood in front of the building, holding in their hands huge dildos and posters inviting them to be sent to Putin. This writes the American edition of "PolicyMic".

As transmits "InoTV", this event could have gone unnoticed if the person calling himself Jonathan Krishna Pappa Love had not organized a group on Facebook with a proposal to send a dildo to Putin at the address: 103132, Russia, Moscow ul. Ilyinka, d. 32.

Blogger Michael Petrelis wrote: “For me, dildos are great sex toys for giving pleasure to both men and women. Attempting to send dildos to Putin seems to me to be a form of punishment of an antisexual nature. ”

Hollywood, help! The human rights organization Human Rights Campaign in an open letter urged the largest Hollywood studios to join the protest campaign against the law adopted in Russia banning the promotion of homosexuality among minors, the Hollywood Reporter reports.

As noted by newsru.co.ilThe president of the organization, Chad Griffin, stressed in the message that the adopted law would lead to the fact that any LGBT person can be beaten on the street or imprisoned. Human rights activists called on the leadership of Hollywood studios to make "clear and precise" statements in support of the LGBT community of the Russian Federation.

It soon became clear that filmmakers intend to remain silent about this.

The Moscow offices of Hollywood film studios have chosen to keep silent, according to the Hollywood Reporter. They pointedly pulled away from appeals or completely ignored them, notes "InoTV".

Mr. Griffin, mentioned above, asked the head of the NBC Universal television company during the broadcasts of the Sochi Winter Olympics to open the eyes of millions of Americans to the new Russian policy regarding homosexuals. But the Moscow offices of the largest film companies in Hollywood decided not to interfere in gay controversy.

A spokesman for Disney noted the complexity of this topic, but declined to comment. And he said: "And this is our official position."

In the Russian company Central Partnership, which cooperates with Paramount, the answer was about the same: “It does not harm our business and we do not give comments on such topics.”

Failure meeting in Guantanamo. Negotiations between Russia and the United States about visiting the Russian delegation at the Guantanamo base were stalled. Moscow insists on meeting with the Russian prisoner Ravil Mingazov there. This tells Alexander Samozhnev ("Russian newspaper"), referring to the Associated Press.

Victoria Nuland, a spokeswoman for the US Department of State, said the 47-year-old prisoner refuses to meet with the Russians. Therefore, the prison administration cannot insist on such a meeting: it should take place on a voluntary basis.

Gary Thompson, Mingazov’s lawyer, said his client was not against meeting with the Russian delegation, but in the presence of lawyers: “He is ready to talk with anyone, but with the obligatory participation of lawyers, which will allow him, in his own words, to feel as comfortable as possible.” . The Russian side, according to Thompson, did not object to the presence of lawyers.

“But the United States said it was impossible, and then my client really refused to meet,” the lawyer added. “Unfortunately, we could not dispute this decision, since this is not about conducting investigative actions, but about a consular visit, and here the State Department has the last word.”

Ravil Mingazov has been in Guantanamo since 2002. He was arrested in Pakistan. Since then, the Russian citizen has not been charged. Investigative actions were not conducted with him. In 2010, the court decided to release R. Mingazov, but the decision was appealed by the authorities. Now the case of the prisoner is in the appellate court in Washington.

The Pentagon will refuse to purchase F-35? The US Department of Defense is ready to abandon the purchase of F-35 and cancel the program worth $ 391,2 billion. But the Congress may oppose such a decision.

According to "RT"The F-35 is the Pentagon’s most expensive weapon system. The estimated cost of the F-2443 35 procurement program is 391,2 billion, which is 68% higher than the planned costs announced in the 2001 year.

Before October 1, the military will have to decide which programs will be cut down. The reduction in military spending should be 50 billion.

Will be cut and fired. Secretary of the US Department of Defense announced the imminent reduction of the country's Armed Forces. Instead of 11 aircraft carriers, the 8 or 9 will remain in service. The corps will undergo a reduction. About 10 thousands of people will be dismissed from the US Navy. Details leads "Lenta.ru" with reference to Defense News.

The final decision was not made, however, the announced intentions of the Ministry of Defense to make reductions received new confirmation. One cruiser, three or four destroyers and about seven squadrons of the Air Force get in line.

“According to Defense News, the reduction aviation (both the Air Force and the US Navy) is associated with a decrease in the number of aircraft carriers. It is planned to carry out a reduction by decommissioning obsolete SH-60 helicopters and F / A-18 fighter jets. Of the aircraft carriers, they may get rid of George Washington (he will have run out of nuclear fuel in 2015), John C. Stennis and Harry Truman. "All three ships are not the oldest representatives of Nimitz-type aircraft carriers (they were added to the fleet in the 1990s), but previous aircraft carriers of this type underwent modernization when replacing nuclear fuel."


Ultra right Tsarnaev. One of the alleged organizers of the Boston terrorist attack Tamerlan Tsarnaev, it turns out, was fond of literature about the superiority of the white race. This writes today "Lenta.ru" with reference to BBC News. The BBC journalists learned this by talking to the friends of the victim.

Reading articles and books, T. Tsarnaev made notes, for example: "Hitler was right." True, what exactly the alleged terrorist read was, BBC News does not indicate.

Tsarnaev also read materials about the massacres: he was interested in the motives of the criminals.

He also studied materials about how American drones kill civilians. He read about the prisoners in Guantanamo.

Finally, Tsarnaev Sr. liked the articles, which stated that behind the attacks of September 11 and the Oklahoma bombings of 1995, there were American special services.

United Canadian-Mexican States of America. Senator Dianne Feinstein, speaking before the Senate’s Legal Committee, called the United States, Mexico and Canada a single state, reports "RT".

Telling of the successes of the NSA's anti-terrorist operations, Feinstein showed a graphic representation of three countries united in one color. The senators called the non-existent state "Homeland" ("fatherland").

“The NSA provided a map that I would like to show you all. There are 54 points on which terrorist attacks were planned. The chart also shows the averted terrorist attacks: 13 on the territory of our Fatherland, 25 in Europe, five in Africa and 11 in Asia, ”said Feinstein.

The NSA has already received criticism for disregarding the sovereignty of neighboring countries, notes "RT".

Meanwhile, let us add, it is quite possible that the NSA, due to another mistake, issued to Congress a secret card of the renewed “fatherland” ...

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  1. experienced
    experienced 5 August 2013 12: 18
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    HOORAY!!! Svezhak laughing
    In the Persian Gulf, a ship with Ukrainian armored vehicles "hangs" for three months, writes newsru.co.il with reference to Dumskaya.net.

    Next, the owner of the vessel will unload the equipment at some port and file a lawsuit against Ukraine ... Instead of income (initially doubtful), there will be continuous expenses winked
    Poland will be the strongest in Europe.

    Well, yes, Russia, Germany, England, France are just nervously smoking on the sidelines and waiting for the creation of "Greater Poland" from sea to sea wassat
    I propose to declare Poland a "potential threat" to Europe and bomb it in advance, before it has time to "grow teeth." Divide this territory once again. wink
    The US Department of Defense is ready to abandon the purchase of F-35 and cancel the program worth $ 391,2 billion. But the Congress may oppose such a decision.

    belay In complete shock ... belay

    Thanks a lot to Oleg (March)that did not allow the site to "sour" completely on a difficult Monday hi
    1. Turik
      Turik 5 August 2013 12: 34
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      The US Department of Defense is ready to abandon the purchase of F-35 and cancel the program worth $ 391,2 billion. But the Congress may oppose such a decision.


      In addition to America, such bombers can not afford anyone.
      This is an American-style sawing holiday! 400 BILLION BUXES! I even stopped respecting Serdyukov with his "miserable" $ 200 million. I look forward to the 6th generation American wunderfull! After her, they will definitely remain without pants.
      1. experienced
        experienced 5 August 2013 12: 38
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        Quote: Turik
        I look forward to the American prodigy of the 6th generation! After her, they will definitely be left without pants.

        The whole world will be left without pants, but in the USA they will simply add machines that print dollars and no more. This feast comes at the expense of the whole world and we are not the last sponsors here hi
        1. dustycat
          dustycat 5 August 2013 19: 08
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          Quote: seasoned
          Quote: Turik
          I look forward to the American prodigy of the 6th generation! After her, they will definitely be left without pants.

          The whole world will be left without pants, but in the USA they will simply add machines that print dollars and no more. This feast comes at the expense of the whole world and we are not the last sponsors here hi

          I’m afraid that for a couple of years they won’t be able to slumber the sundavaflu siks, and then China will buy everything in bulk at a sale.
          That after picking Israel in that heap of junk will remain.
      2. strange and pretty meaningless
        strange and pretty meaningless 5 August 2013 14: 08
        +4
        The secretary of the US Department of Defense announced the upcoming reduction of the country's armed forces. Instead of 11 aircraft carriers, 8 or 9 will remain in service ... Of the aircraft carriers, they may get rid of George Washington ..., John C. Stennis and Harry Truman.
        Otto writing for aircraft carrier laughing laughing laughing NICHITS REDUCE !!! STORM OF SEAS and OKIANAFF !!! That buit laughter if they put up for auction lol Take ..? Ali nah ...
        1. dustycat
          dustycat 5 August 2013 19: 04
          +1
          Quote: abyrvalg
          That buit laughter if they put up for auction lol Take ..? Ali nah ...

          We must take ...
          Unless, of course, two of them are already overloaded to China, but one to India.
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 5 August 2013 14: 29
        +7
        Quote: Turik
        In addition to America, such bombers can not afford anyone.

        Apparently all of America, they also can not afford, already laughing
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 5 August 2013 15: 24
          +1
          Sasha take a look wink,
          As I understand it, the FBI detained the thinker laughing

          1. Rainman_1
            Rainman_1 5 August 2013 20: 19
            0
            why is the camera staggering ???? and everywhere !!!!
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 5 August 2013 21: 31
              +2
              Quote: Rainman_1
              why is the camera staggering ???? and everywhere !!!!


              The shield building is blown by the wind and vibration from its steps.
        2. dustycat
          dustycat 5 August 2013 19: 22
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Turik
          In addition to America, such bombers can not afford anyone.

          Apparently all of America, they also can not afford, already laughing

          Yes, not something that can not afford ...
          And Bucks and Euros to print is not difficult and not expensive.
          A complete set of waffles Israel does not suit.
          They do not want to pay shekels for them.
          And they not only know how to count grandmothers, but also think - what suits the war, and what is so, for show-offs and parades.
      4. fduch
        fduch 5 August 2013 17: 33
        +3
        It has long been written that the F-35 is megakidalo, guys from Lockheed geniuses, only financial, not aircraft manufacturing :)))))
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 5 August 2013 13: 06
      +3
      Quote: seasoned
      Thanks a lot to Oleg (March) for not letting the site go sour on a difficult Monday.

      I'm joining !! I'm waiting for Friday. Holidays on Monday. How to survive ????? There is no money for a time machine ... Only VO will save !!
    3. Mart
      5 August 2013 13: 09
      16
      Quote: seasoned
      Thank you very much Oleg

      hi Souring will not, comrades.
      1. experienced
        experienced 5 August 2013 13: 12
        +5
        Quote: Mart
        Souring will not, comrades.

        Oleg, sorry, I clumsily spoke out ... hi Sometimes you want to compliment a person, but it turns out that "it does not work." The site is good, summer time, Oleg (March) is on guard drinks
        Everything will be fine!!!! hi
        1. Mart
          5 August 2013 13: 20
          +4
          Quote: seasoned
          Oleg, excuse me, I spoke clumsily ... hi Sometimes you want to compliment a person, but it turns out that "it doesn't work." The site is good, summer time, Oleg (March) is on guard


          Alexey, why so much self-criticism? drinks Everything is in order, and we are all on guard here. Enemies will not pass!
          1. Odessitka
            Odessitka 5 August 2013 14: 07
            +6
            Oleg,
            Enemies will not pass!

            Really will not work, if Tranzhira on the site, they will rest with a laugh. laughing
            1. experienced
              experienced 5 August 2013 14: 15
              +4
              Quote: Odessitka
              if Tranzhira is on the site, they will rest with a laugh.

              I was always grateful to those who, regardless of the conjuncture of the site (market), did not forget old comrades hi Today, under the skin with the inscription "spender" I will drink a bottle in memory without clinking glasses ... may he rest in peace and I have the worldview "The king is dead, long live the king" winked
              In general, I am amazed how not to hide, and one x (bakery) will be calculated wassat
              1. Odessitka
                Odessitka 5 August 2013 14: 30
                +7
                Experienced,
                "The king is dead, long live the king"

                Viva King! laughing
                It would be used to drink, but is there a reason? drinks
                1. experienced
                  experienced 5 August 2013 14: 33
                  +3
                  Quote: Odessitka
                  Viva King! It would be used to drink, but is there a reason?

                  Thank you, now I know who I’m talking with, I have only pleasant emotions and support from me love Struck by a low rating and a new nickname, but the "core" is the one that was, again under the article for organizing a gang, let's go wassat
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 5 August 2013 14: 31
              +4
              Quote: Odessitka
              Really will not pass,

              Hello Sun, that penguins are no longer relevant laughing
              1. experienced
                experienced 5 August 2013 14: 36
                +3
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Hello Sun, that penguins are no longer relevant

                Bugaga .... Sanya, I'm shocked, did she encrypt from you too? Under such a nickname wassat
                1. Mart
                  5 August 2013 14: 42
                  +4
                  Quote: seasoned
                  Bugaga .... San, I'm shocked, she encrypted you too? Under such a nickname wassat


                  Old pleasant company gathered. drinks
                  1. Odessitka
                    Odessitka 5 August 2013 14: 57
                    +5
                    March +,
                    Old nice company gathered

                    Captain Feathered is absent as soon as training begins in Syria, or in the USA (if Romanov did not leave this fun undertaking) laughing
                    1. experienced
                      experienced 5 August 2013 15: 07
                      +2
                      Quote: Odessitka
                      Captain Feathered is absent,

                      Yes, he got cold to the site, or simply a lot of things, or his wife uses a sparrow thrust in hilling the garden ... Or maybe Gold’s spade sticks?
                      Questions, questions ... laughing
                  2. experienced
                    experienced 5 August 2013 15: 05
                    +4
                    Quote: Mart
                    Old pleasant company gathered.

                    Damn, there will again be a "Case of the Marshals" wassat
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 5 August 2013 15: 07
                      +4
                      Quote: seasoned
                      again there will be "Case of the Marshals"

                      We are now skypers am laughing
                      1. experienced
                        experienced 5 August 2013 15: 16
                        +4
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        We are now skypers

                        Bugaga, well now all members of the "skype gang" will be banned wassat I was here once in the period between the "reincarnations" one body under the nickname "...." stated that we do not love you, we interrupt your craving for the rating, we (8 people) do not like that you leave the first comment in each topic and we we condemn you to a minus one ... And then I had a vow not to put minuses, but now there is no vow, but "the residue remained" wassat
                        This I mean that "do not dig another hole ..." drinks
                      2. Karlsonn
                        Karlsonn 5 August 2013 15: 25
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        We are now skypers


                        and how is it? belay
                      3. experienced
                        experienced 5 August 2013 15: 29
                        +1
                        Quote: Karlsonn
                        Quote: Alexander RomanovWe are now skipers, but how's that?

                        This is a platogenesis of the highest form of menstrual communication through virtually aggressive kind of communication, which is imposed on us by perverts from America wassat
                        Romanoff in this regard the supreme connector laughing
                      4. Karlsonn
                        Karlsonn 5 August 2013 16: 10
                        +1
                        Quote: seasoned
                        This is the highest form platogenesis.


                        Avona how what
                      5. experienced
                        experienced 5 August 2013 16: 12
                        0
                        Quote: Karlsonn
                        Avona how

                        Well, did you think hera?

                        Spitting on a felt boot
                      6. Karlsonn
                        Karlsonn 5 August 2013 17: 29
                        +4
                        Quote: seasoned
                        Spitting on a felt boot


                        Don’t spit on the felt boots, it’ll freeze - not only can’t you tear it off, you’ll still be scratched. wink
                      7. experienced
                        experienced 5 August 2013 17: 30
                        0
                        Quote: Karlsonn
                        Don’t spit on the felt boots, not only will you not freeze, you’ll still be scratched.

                        Well, a few more times to spit is not a sin ...
                        Valenok neighbor
                      8. Karlsonn
                        Karlsonn 5 August 2013 21: 33
                        0
                        Quote: seasoned
                        Well, a few more times to spit is not a sin ...
                        Valenok neighbor


                        Now I understood why the "mazuta" asked not to go in formation next to their armor. wink
  2. Odessitka
    Odessitka 5 August 2013 15: 19
    +4
    Hi! Zharkova then)))))))))))))))))))
    [/ url]]
    1. experienced
      experienced 5 August 2013 15: 22
      +3
      There are 3 things that do not freeze in winter

      4. Alcoholics, they may freeze, but as a percentage of ordinary citizens there is practically no wassat
      I recognize a "seasoned" friend love
    2. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 5 August 2013 16: 14
      +4
      Quote: Odessitka
      Hi! Zharkova then)))))))))))))))))))


      Urgent action is needed!
      Something like this. wink
      1. svp67
        svp67 5 August 2013 21: 38
        +1
        Quote: Karlsonn
        Something like this
        That's interesting - the tank and canopy are light - sand, and the shape is dark green, obviously not a refinement ...
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 5 August 2013 22: 15
          0
          Quote: svp67
          That's interesting - the tank and canopy are light - sand, and the shape is dark green, obviously not a refinement ...


          The main thing here is that the ladder along which the bosses ascends to the tank is of the right color. wink
          And they picked up armchairs with pillows in tone. laughing
        2. family tree
          family tree 5 August 2013 23: 33
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          That's interesting - the tank and canopy are light - sand, and the shape is dark green, obviously not a refinement ...

          Well, judging by the ramp, this is a ship, al an airplane. As far as I can remember, the ladder was not supplied to the tank what
    3. Shumka
      Shumka 5 August 2013 23: 10
      0
      Normally. Beat not in the eyebrow but in the eye.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 5 August 2013 23: 27
        +1
        Quote: Shumka
        Normally. Beat not in the eyebrow but in the eye.


        Duc pros can be seen a mile away. recourse

  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 5 August 2013 14: 29
    +7
    Geopolitical Mosaic:Ollleyee ??? He looked at the photo on the title page and the mood fell, well, where do you (they) take them (those) sad


    How America Bribed Syrian Police

    At least someone on the site was surprised at this?

    Poland will be the strongest in Europe.
    Russia has always been the strongest in Europe! Although about strong Poland it’s funny yes laughing

    that Edward Snowden has ceased to be exposed in accordance with the conditions put forward by the Russian government in exchange for asylum.
    Of course I stopped, now all the info goes straight to the FSB wassat

    Breivik is temporarily transferred to Skien Prison.
    Wait a minute, whether the conditions of detention in the new prison will correspond to human rights and whether Breivik will not feel infringed on anything. Breivik’s rights come first.

    Three Russian warships, including the Moscow missile cruiser, arrived in Cuba
    Cuba, again Cuba winked

    Snowden will remain in the Russian Federation for at least a year,
    American politicians do not yet know that there is nothing more in Russia
    permanent than temporary. Let the whine tongue

    How Putin put the United States in an "awkward position."
    What is not yet convenient, the cancer pose is the favorite pose of every democrat in the USA

    Facebook gays decided to send a dildo to Putin.
    Putin needs to send them a rubber woman in return, let them try, at least something wassat

    Meanwhile, let us add, it is quite possible that the NSA, due to another mistake, issued to Congress a secret card of the renewed “fatherland” ...
    Draw someone a map where the California edges of the Russian Federation will be laughing and to the network winked
    1. svp67
      svp67 5 August 2013 14: 31
      0
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Russia has always been the strongest in Europe! Although about strong Poland it’s funny yes

      Honestly - not really. This is not even VERY MUCH than a strong Germany ... "Kolbasnikov" is still somehow understandable, but "gentlemen" ... Sometimes things come before their thoughts, let alone "appetites" ... and ambition ...
      1. experienced
        experienced 5 August 2013 14: 40
        +9
        Quote: svp67
        Honestly - not really. This is even more VERY than a strong Germany ...

        I would say so Germany, England and Russia have always twisted this Europe as they wanted. Germany by force, technology and discipline, England by cunning in diplomacy, and Russia by resources, climate and the spirit of soldiers ... Poland nervously smoked aside and waited for someone once again to lie down. IMHO hi
        1. svp67
          svp67 5 August 2013 14: 56
          0
          Quote: seasoned
          Poland nervously smoked aside and waited for whom once again she had to lie down

          Such an opinion exists, but one should not forget that Poland resisted for a long time - the Crimean invasions, Swedish expansion. What, what, but they cannot be denied their daring ... but they just went somewhere further with their "Great Poland".
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 5 August 2013 15: 11
            +5
            Quote: svp67
            that Poland resisted for a long time - the Crimean invasions, the Swedish expansion

            And two whole weeks of Germany laughing
            1. svp67
              svp67 5 August 2013 15: 31
              0
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              And two whole weeks of Germany
              But she was able to stop Tukhachevsky ...
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 5 August 2013 16: 16
                +1
                Quote: svp67
                But she was able to stop Tukhachevsky ...


                When did he rush past Warsaw to Berlin, leading from Minsk? bully
                1. svp67
                  svp67 5 August 2013 16: 18
                  0
                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  When did he rush past Warsaw to Berlin, leading from Minsk?
                  And yet...
                2. KazaK Bo
                  KazaK Bo 5 August 2013 17: 27
                  +2
                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  leading from Minsk

                  ... a little mistake came out - led from KIEV .. FROM KIEV !!!
                  1. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn 5 August 2013 21: 35
                    +1
                    Quote: KazaK Bo
                    ... a little mistake came out - led from KIEV .. FROM KIEV !!!


                    I would not be surprised to learn that this "strategist" is headquartered in Astrakhan.
                    Thanks for the amendment hi --- I’m smearing it all day today., sad to see the rain. what
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 August 2013 15: 10
          +2
          Quote: seasoned
          Germany by force, technology and discipline

          Yeah, but only until I climbed into Russia.
          Quote: seasoned
          England by cunning in diplomacy,

          And as a rule, as a result, she had herself.
          Quote: seasoned
          Poland nervously smoked aside

          And Poland spoke all the time about her greatness, until someone wiped her feet on her again.
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 5 August 2013 16: 28
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And Poland spoke all the time about her greatness, until someone wiped her feet on her again.



            Translation:

            Russia.
            USA.
            Poland.
            Submarines.
            Ours is better, because they can also travel by land.

            Clickable
      2. sq
        sq 5 August 2013 15: 03
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        For those sometimes things go ahead of thoughts, and only "appetites" ... and ambition ...

        Well, once (in the days of IT) they could do things, and even then relying on the power of ON. And when the ON became a part of Poland, its gentry anarchy quickly turned power into dust .... and there was only ambition.
    2. dustycat
      dustycat 5 August 2013 19: 35
      0
      Quote: Alexander Romanov

      Three Russian warships, including the Moscow missile cruiser, arrived in Cuba
      Cuba, again Cuba winked

      "Is Cuba far away?
      -Kuba is near! "(C) IvanKayf" The Adventures of Che Guevara "
  • rolik
    rolik 5 August 2013 14: 44
    0
    Quote: seasoned
    In complete shock ...

    That's it !!!))) squeezed out the loot))) It's time to fold the barrel organ and figure out where else you can squeeze as much))))))
  • vlad767
    vlad767 5 August 2013 17: 29
    +1
    How America bribed the Syrian police.
    Who would doubt that!
    Poland will be the strongest in Europe.
    Ahaha! laughing
    New exposures from comrade Snowden.
    Nothing special ... Eh, it’s a pity that I didn’t merge everything ... recourse
    New reason for American resentment.
    Have you given anyone at least once to Russia? No? Why are you offended then? What is hello, so is the answer! wink
    How Putin put the United States in an "awkward position."
    Yes, you yourself put your actions in an uncomfortable position. winked
    Gays decided to send dildo to Putin.
    Yes, Putin sneezed at their protests and all the crap they sent. tongue
    Human Rights called on Hollywood studios to join the protest against the ban on homosexuality propaganda in Russia; film businessmen intend to remain silent.
    Companies are not fools to support the isarasites, while discrediting themselves and depriving part of their income. They sneezed at gays. And they did it right. hi
    The State Department said the 47-year-old prisoner refuses to meet with the Russians.
    And most likely they did not ask him.
    The US Department of Defense is ready to refuse to purchase F-35 and cancel the program worth $ 391,2 billion.
    Not a damn myself, this is what I understand cut !!! belay Serdyukov nervously smokes on the sidelines, he didn’t even dream of it!
    Afghanistan will remain the military property of the Bundeswehr worth 150 million euros.
    Oh, one more ...
    Senator Diane Feinstein, speaking before the Senate Legal Committee, called the United States, Mexico and Canada a single state.
    For some reason, this does not surprise me anymore ... I wonder why there are no accusations from Canada and Mexico in preparing America for the occupation? what
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 5 August 2013 19: 44
      +1
      Quote: vlad767
      Senator Diane Feinstein, speaking before the Senate Legal Committee, called the United States, Mexico and Canada a single state.
      For some reason, this does not surprise me anymore ... I wonder why there are no accusations from Canada and Mexico in preparing America for the occupation? what

      Nothing strange.
      Mexico will declare war on Canada and immediately capitulate as it reaches the Canadian border.
  • dustycat
    dustycat 5 August 2013 19: 15
    +1
    Quote: seasoned

    In the Persian Gulf, a ship with Ukrainian armored vehicles "hangs" for three months, writes newsru.co.il with reference to Dumskaya.net.

    Next, the owner of the vessel will unload the equipment at some port and file a lawsuit against Ukraine ... Instead of income (initially doubtful), there will be continuous expenses winked

    Everything will be simpler.
    Africa is near there - they’ll buy any junk.
    If the captain did not count on this, he would already have sold everything to Chermet or let him go overboard.
  • ATATA
    ATATA 5 August 2013 12: 18
    +7
    Let me comment in a mosaic style? laughing
    Baghdad doesn’t want Kharkov beteers.

    I would like to hear the comments of the patriots "Ukrainen"
    Poland will be the strongest in Europe.

    Great news! hi laughing
    "The rumblings of my laughter are shaking heaven and earth" Chan dictum.
    United Canadian-Mexican States of America.

    One people, one culture! laughing
    But what about the Little Russians, Belarusians and Great Russians ?! God himself commanded!
    hi
    1. Natalia
      Natalia 5 August 2013 12: 55
      +6
      And this amused me:
      South Korea: upgrade of the submarine fleet. Nine submarines with a displacement of 3000 tons by 2030

      By 2030, communism will long triumph throughout the Korean peninsula lol laughing )))))
      1. dustycat
        dustycat 5 August 2013 19: 46
        +1
        Quote: Natalia
        And this amused me:
        South Korea: upgrade of the submarine fleet. Nine submarines with a displacement of 3000 tons by 2030

        By 2030, communism will long triumph throughout the Korean peninsula lol laughing )))))

        Just fulfill the order of the DPRK.
    2. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 5 August 2013 13: 43
      +6
      Quote: ATATA
      I would like to hear the comments of the patriots of "Ukrainen"




      Something like that. hi

      CAPACITIES: unlike official Moscow and the expulsion of moral monsters, the official Kiev’s reaction to insulting a state symbol did not follow.
      What actually does not surprise me.
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 5 August 2013 15: 34
        +3
        Quote: Karlsonn
        moral freaks

        I’m not sure how to perceive this ugliness ..
        Human Rights Campaign in an open letter called on the largest Hollywood studios join the campaign of protest against the law adopted in Russia on the prohibition of the promotion of homosexuality among minors, reports "Hollywood Reporter."

        What kind of insanity? Russia has banned LGBT propaganda among teenagers ... and this outrages pedophiles from Human Rights !!! these pedophiles have already crawled everywhere ... stupid do not understand that we have People for the prohibition of propaganda "colorful throatspriestnew "!
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 5 August 2013 16: 39
          0
          Quote: Scoun
          I’m not sure how to perceive this ugliness ..


          I'm not talking about these. No.
          I'm talking about the Bloodhound Gang group, which was kicked out of Russia for insulting the state symbol - the flag and to which no sanctions were applied in Ukraine, although as we see in the video that during a concert in Ukraine the bass player of this "glorious" group urinated on the flag of Ukraine.
      2. Alligator_S
        Alligator_S 5 August 2013 16: 25
        +6
        And our "patriots" wiped themselves off and said that "God's dew". This once again confirms that the Ukrainian mentality (Zapadensky) does not accept equal relations, but only the attitude of the owner (USA, Europe, etc.) is a servant ...
        1. dustycat
          dustycat 5 August 2013 19: 49
          +1
          Quote: Alligator_S
          And our "patriots" wiped themselves off and said that "God's dew". This once again confirms that the Ukrainian mentality (Zapadensky) does not accept equal relations, but only the attitude of the owner (USA, Europe, etc.) is a servant ...

          They would write servile - it would be more understandable.
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 5 August 2013 21: 40
            0
            Quote: dustycat
            They would write servile - it would be more understandable.


            Expand your thesis.
      3. Fastblast
        Fastblast 6 August 2013 14: 47
        0
        CAPACITIES: unlike official Moscow and the expulsion of moral monsters, the official Kiev’s reaction to insulting a state symbol did not follow.

        Admit it, you just want it to be that way.

        The Pechersk district police department of Kiev opened a criminal investigation into the abuse of the state flag of Ukraine by members of the American punk band Bloodhound Gang.

        "On this fact, the Pechersk District Directorate of the Metropolitan Police, this event was entered in the Unified Register of Pre-trial Investigations with the qualification of Part 1 of Article 338 (abuse of state symbols of Ukraine) and Part 1 of Article 296 (hooliganism). Now the pre-trial investigation continues," said the head of the department for public relations of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine in Kiev Igor Mikhalko.

        According to Ukrainian law, public abuse of the national flag of Ukraine, the national emblem of Ukraine or the national anthem of Ukraine is punishable by a fine of up to 50 tax-free minimum incomes of citizens or by arrest for up to 6 months or imprisonment for up to 3 years.
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 6 August 2013 17: 54
          0
          Quote: Fastblast
          Admit it, you just want it to be that way.


          Let's not distort - the clowns from Anapa were deported on the 4, the reaction of Kiev came on the 5, although in Odessa on the 1 on August the law enforcement officers were probably present at the concert.

          So copy-paste is past (which is very sad).
  • Alexanderlaskov
    Alexanderlaskov 5 August 2013 12: 20
    +9
    We wish Syria peace. Faster!
    1. AVV
      AVV 5 August 2013 16: 44
      +1
      SUCCESSES Assad drove this scum from the Syrian land !!! The opposition and the United States will not have a very warm relationship, since Washington was planning to take the heat with their own hands !!! But in the end they did not fulfill the task of their patron !!!
  • Garik
    Garik 5 August 2013 12: 30
    +6
    Pentagon refuses to purchase F-35? The US Department of Defense is ready to refuse to purchase F-35 and cancel the program worth $ 391,2 billion. But Congress may oppose such a decision.

    The secretary of the US Department of Defense announced the upcoming reduction of the country's armed forces. Instead of 11 aircraft carriers, 8 or 9 will remain in service. The Marine Corps will be reduced. About 10 thousand people will be dismissed from the US Navy. Details are given by "Lenta.ru" with reference to the "Defense News".

    The end crept not noticeably ...
    I do not think that this will somehow seriously affect defense, but in the long run it will seriously hit the rating of amers on the world stage.
  • VadimSt
    VadimSt 5 August 2013 12: 30
    10
    Nasrallah went out to breathe. Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, left the bunker for the first time in two years

    Visibly suffocated on his own behalf.

    Due to the adoption of the law on the promotion of homosexuality in Russia, more and more negative is pouring out on Vladimir Putin. The other day, an rally was held near the Russian consulate in San Francisco: protesters led by Scott Anansi Rossi stood in front of the building, holding huge dildos and posters in which they were asked to send them to Putin.

    Putin put a "real device" on them a long time ago, but they still don't believe.

    According to newsru.co.il, the president of the organization, Chad Griffin, emphasized in his message that the adopted law would lead to any LGBT person being beaten in the street or imprisoned.

    There’s only one thing - they’ll either kick it, or they’ll score it. Therefore, behind bars, this rot, just consoles their sexual preferences.
    1. VadimSt
      VadimSt 5 August 2013 12: 48
      +2
      How Putin put the US in an “awkward position”

      Why hide - set cancer!

      Ravil Mingazov has been in Guantanamo since 2002. He was arrested in Pakistan.

      Why should the consul meet with him? It seems that their "mujahideen" did not disappear either.
    2. Natalia
      Natalia 5 August 2013 15: 18
      +1
      Quote: VadimSt
      Visibly suffocated on his own behalf.

      lol laughing +
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  • ziqzaq
    ziqzaq 5 August 2013 12: 33
    +3
    Senator Diane Feinstein, speaking before the Senate Legal Committee, called the United States, Mexico and Canada a single state ....
    “The NSA provided a map that I would like to show you all. There are 54 points on which terrorist attacks were planned. The chart also shows the averted terrorist attacks: 13 on the territory of our Fatherland, 25 in Europe, five in Africa and 11 in Asia, ”said Feinstein.

    A statement in the spirit of Bush Jr. ... For Americans to get into politics, candidates have to do a lobotomy .... In the photo to the article, Senator Diane Feinstein? Judging by the expression of empty eyes, the picture was taken at the time of enlightenment .......
    Do they have normal people? No matter how the politician is so half-doo.rok, no matter how the senator is so generally an idiot, an idiot ......
    It is clear to whom our homegrown liberals ........
  • Alexanderlaskov
    Alexanderlaskov 5 August 2013 12: 34
    +1
    Let Amer spend and spend on weapons. Faster go bankrupt.
  • sq
    sq 5 August 2013 12: 38
    +2
    The conflict in Syria can be completed within a few months if the population helps the Syrian army restore order, Bashar al-Assad said.
    It is quite natural.
    How America bribed the Syrian police.
    Something finely floating. Or those that could not be higher?
    About the BRICS Development Bank.
    process goes
    Poland will be the strongest in Europe
    Oh well. Hedgehog, though strong, but light (from an old joke)
    Visit to Liberty Island.
    Normal business trip. And why make noise.
    How Putin put the United States in an "awkward position."
    Let them get used to it and enjoy it.
    Facebook gays decided to send a dildo to Putin.
    This is probably for transfer to bulk or pieces. Probably they cannot send directly, maybe the Russian post does not accept such parcels.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 5 August 2013 12: 59
      +2
      Quote: kvm
      How America bribed the Syrian police.
      Something finely floating. Or those that could not be higher?

      And for Judas at all times 30 pieces of silver, this is the ultimate dream.
      150 euros! laughing Sequestration budget however.
      1. alone
        alone 5 August 2013 13: 26
        0
        cops are all corrupt. Syrian non-exclusion
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 5 August 2013 13: 52
          +1
          Quote: lonely
          cops are all corrupt.


          Expand for more details, please your thesis.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 5 August 2013 14: 33
            +1
            Quote: Karlsonn

            Expand for more details, please your thesis.

            Hi Carlson, yes it’s about the Azerbaijani police officers laughing
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 5 August 2013 14: 46
              +4
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Hi Carlson, yes it’s about the Azerbaijani police officers


              Hi!
              I am still interested in the train of thought of a person operating with the thesis - "all cops are corrupt", especially in light of such events as:
              - According to RIA Novosti, a policeman was killed while rescuing people in the flood zone in the Krasnodar Territory.
              http://www.islaminform.com/ru/node/319
              - A policeman saved 70 people at the cost of his life during a terrorist attack in Ingushetia
              http://www.yuga.ru/news/270616/
              - Seaside policeman saved the doctor at the cost of his life
              the list goes on.
            2. Apollo
              Apollo 5 August 2013 15: 24
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Yes, this is it about the Azerbaijani police officers


              yes it’s for sure ..... but what about the sunny neighboring republic ?! And to be more precise, they are everywhere.

              Good afternoon, Alexander! hi drinks
      2. _Igor_
        _Igor_ 5 August 2013 13: 40
        +2
        you better tell me why amers pay in euros?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 August 2013 14: 34
          +3
          Quote: _Igor_
          you better tell me why amers pay in euros?

          Well, they don’t have time to print dollars, to that, to that. There they stir up a revolution, there to arrange a warrior, and interest should be calculated on debts.
        2. dustycat
          dustycat 5 August 2013 19: 55
          +1
          Quote: _Igor_
          you better tell me why amers pay in euros?

          First, bring closer, and secondly, the yuan for themselves cherished.
          And they themselves learned to print dollars there (Mujahideen from Chechnya brought machines).
    2. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 5 August 2013 13: 51
      10
      Quote: kvm
      Visit to Liberty Island.
      Normal business trip. And why make noise.


      Aha bully , maybe like this, immediately remind me personally of the last time the same usual "business trip" took place?



      Oleg, as always - many thanks for the review!
      1. svp67
        svp67 5 August 2013 14: 04
        +6
        Quote: Karlsonn
        Aha

        Nevertheless, talented people worked in the USSR in the defense industry - our warships are very beautiful ...
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 5 August 2013 14: 47
          +2
          Quote: svp67
          Nevertheless, talented people worked in the USSR in the defense industry - our warships are very beautiful ...


          Yes sir! soldier
      2. Volkhov
        Volkhov 5 August 2013 14: 26
        -10 qualifying.
        Nothing that Moscow and Kulakov went to different ports on the same video?
        The virtual fleet is the coolest and invulnerable.
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 5 August 2013 14: 53
          +3
          Quote: Volkhov
          Nothing that Moscow and Kulakov went to different ports on the same video?


          What is the claim?

          Quote: Volkhov
          The virtual fleet is the coolest and invulnerable.


          That is, because of the video, the "Admiral Makarov" BOD and the "Vice-Admiral Kulakov" BOD suddenly became virtual?
          The course of your reasoning is enchanting. fellow
          1. Volkhov
            Volkhov 5 August 2013 16: 02
            -4
            Makarov was cut into metal back in the 90s, and Kulakov is real ... however, marshals have their own world.
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 5 August 2013 16: 47
              +1
              Quote: Volkhov
              Makarov was cut into metal back in 90,


              I did not know, thank you.

              Quote: Volkhov
              The virtual fleet is the coolest and invulnerable.


              One more time:
              If shots from RT mistakenly mounted a video, does this make our fleet virtual, and calling Cuba a journalistic duck?

              Quote: Volkhov
              however, the marshals have their own world.


              I kind of hinted to you

              Quote: Karlsonn
              What is the claim?


              Have to deploy:
              - Dear, if you have problems and complaints about this video, I recommend contacting the editorial office of RT with the requirements, wishes and complaints.

              Regards Karlsonn hi
              1. Volkhov
                Volkhov 5 August 2013 21: 47
                -2
                Such films and photos were filmed in different editions and are used in the interests of politics - for example, Chavez "lived" as long as it was necessary to prepare a successor ... claims to the expected results of continuing this policy - the neo-Trotskyists do not make up all the crews.
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 5 August 2013 22: 19
                  +2
                  Quote: Volkhov
                  Such films and photos were shot in different editions and are used in the interests of politics - for example, Chavez "lived" as long as it was necessary to prepare a successor ...


                  Unlike Chavez, the fleet came to Cuba.

                  Quote: Volkhov
                  claims to the expected results of the continuation of this policy - the neo-Trotskyists do not constitute all crews.


                  what et faq? on which side to turn the monitor to understand the text?

                  in anticipation of the remark that the marshals have their own world - jumps into the bunker.
  • svp67
    svp67 5 August 2013 12: 41
    +3
    According to the president, the army achieves the greatest success in those areas where it is actively supported by the residents.
    This is an old, long-known truth, and if so, then this mess has already gotten simple and not very people and they made their choice
  • svp67
    svp67 5 August 2013 12: 43
    0
    “Israel,” he said, “threatens the existence of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and they hope for its disappearance.”
    Bullshit of course, but at that level and in that region it might work ...
  • svp67
    svp67 5 August 2013 12: 47
    +4
    According to an unnamed source, in Baghdad they saw armored personnel carriers produced by the Kharkov plant and stated that they would not unload such products. Now the ship is waiting for the conflict to be settled at the top
    An independent Iraqi government does not exist, everything that it does on the world stage is decided for them in Washington. So this is one of the ways to put pressure on Ukraine - so that it would quickly decide "with whom it is along the way" ... And in the light of this news, the "successes" of Ukraine in the sale of weapons abroad become largely understandable ...
  • Predator-74
    Predator-74 5 August 2013 12: 47
    +3
    Quote: Alexanderlaskov
    We wish Syria peace. Faster!

    Yes, it seems the war in Syria could end soon. No wonder embassies are being turned off; this may be connected.
  • svp67
    svp67 5 August 2013 12: 49
    +3
    Only 47% of military equipment and equipment will be sent to Germany. The rest is planned to be sold, transferred to the hands of the Afghan National Army or scrapped.
    In the "goryuchki" it will be added to the Afghan conflict ...
  • Gato
    Gato 5 August 2013 12: 50
    +5
    crusaders, atheists, and the Americanized army

    "Everything is messed up in the house" .. oh, Mursi's harem.
    Still the Pharaohs would have dragged ...
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 5 August 2013 20: 01
      +1
      Quote: Gato
      crusaders, atheists, and the Americanized army

      "Everything is messed up in the house" .. oh, Mursi's harem.
      Still the Pharaohs would have dragged ...

      There was no suit in the sex shop.
  • svp67
    svp67 5 August 2013 12: 50
    0
    The UN Archives in New York declassified 2200 World War II war crimes documents in Europe and Asia.
    In the "bomb" it can "bang" ...
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 5 August 2013 14: 16
      +2
      I'm wondering if this Caudle parasite (UN) will investigate the crimes of American and British imperialism !! ????? Or the Germans were "whipped" and --- Sabbath ?????
      1. dustycat
        dustycat 5 August 2013 20: 03
        0
        Quote: stroporez
        I'm wondering if this Caudle parasite (UN) will investigate the crimes of American and British imperialism !! ????? Or the Germans were "whipped" and --- Sabbath ?????

        This is how it will become only the third economy of the world - it can happen.
  • svp67
    svp67 5 August 2013 12: 53
    +5
    How Putin put the US in an “awkward position”
    He once put them in an "uncomfortable position", a second time put them in an "uncomfortable position", the third time .... and left them in "their position ..."
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    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 5 August 2013 13: 54
      +3
      Quote: retired
      And hahly, as always in his repertoire. Multi-vector however ...


      Kamrad, Hi!
      No. Why so
      Quote: retired
      hahly
      ?
  • svp67
    svp67 5 August 2013 12: 55
    +4
    Facebook gays decide to send dildo to Putin
    Oh, I don’t envy them if the GDP notices such a gift and decides to send a response ...
    1. Gato
      Gato 5 August 2013 15: 18
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      and decides to send a reply ...

      Send them light-noise simulators so that they would not be bored without their toys. Let them enjoy laughing
      1. svp67
        svp67 5 August 2013 16: 34
        +3
        Quote: Gato
        Send them light noise simulators,

        With a team of "animators" ...
        1. dustycat
          dustycat 5 August 2013 20: 05
          0
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Gato
          Send them light noise simulators,

          With a team of "animators" ...

          I think the mass simulator in response will be more fun.
          1. svp67
            svp67 5 August 2013 20: 12
            0
            Quote: dustycat
            I think the mass simulator in response will be more fun.
            it certainly would have radically solved the problem, and lately we have something with the means of delivery of the problem ... request and in front of other countries it’s awkward, they think - they’re offended ...
  • RussianRu
    RussianRu 5 August 2013 12: 56
    +3
    And what does Russia give bourgeois fagots peace? Quietly rejoice at yourself in Paris, otherwise we’ll come again, then something like that in the ass will be added to BISTRO.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 5 August 2013 12: 56
    +5
    Thanks for the great review. Returned from vacation - received a portion of news smile Now I know what to look for.
  • Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 5 August 2013 12: 56
    +4
    The Se Pacifica is anchored in neutral waters, at approximately the same distance from Kuwait, Iran and Iraq.

    They do not want to take in Iraq, then they would have agreed with Iran.

    New NATO members are not ready to make substantial military contributions.

    Not for that they entered there. bully

    Three Russian warships, including the Moscow missile cruiser, arrived in Cuba on a friendly visit ...

    Good news. To be the ocean fleet!

    Thanks to the author for the review. hi
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 5 August 2013 13: 10
      0
      Quote: Gomunkul
      They do not want to take in Iraq, then they would have agreed with Iran.

      There the bodies are cracking for welding. This hack, for no one needs anyone.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 5 August 2013 13: 58
        +4
        Quote: ATATA
        There the bodies are cracking for welding. This hack, for no one needs anyone.


        Oh really? Have you seen it yourself?
        I do not defend the oligarchy with Bankova, but this is how to reduce the geopolitical game and all the swarms in the arms business to cheating armored personnel carriers that you haven’t seen ... what I can’t even pick up an epithet.
        1. ATATA
          ATATA 5 August 2013 14: 29
          +2
          Quote: Karlsonn
          but this is how to reduce the geopolitical game and all the swarms in the arms business to cheating armored personnel carriers that you haven’t seen in your eyes ..

          I trust the free "Ukrainen" press ..
          The 42 boxes that Pacifica delivered to Umm Qasr this spring turned out to be defective. With cracks in the hull ... Iraqis flatly refused to unload them ashore

          http://economics.lb.ua/state/2013/08/02/217174_irak_prinimaet_ukrainskie_btr.htm


          l
          Information on the network is available, not only in one source. GreatUkry, her do not refute.
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 5 August 2013 15: 05
            +1
            Quote: ATATA
            I trust the free "Ukrainen" press ..


            It’s not worth it, the Ukrainian press belongs to different political clans, and as a result, it serves them, to extract truthful information from this swamp in truth an epic feat.

            Quote: ATATA
            Information on the network is available, not only in one source. GreatUkry, her do not refute.


            Who are the great Ukrainians?
            It’s interesting to me as a Russian living in Kiev.
            1. ATATA
              ATATA 5 August 2013 15: 11
              +1
              Quote: Karlsonn
              Who are the great Ukrainians?

              Comrade Marshal, as a resident of "v Ukrainen", it's a sin not to know that the first people on earth were euro-oriented UKRY, and VelikoUKRs are their descendants.
              ps
              With personal respect. hi
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 5 August 2013 15: 30
                +9
                Quote: ATATA
                that the first people on earth were euro-oriented UKRY, and VelikoUKRs are their descendants.
                ps


                That would be right away! And then ambiguities arise with such epithets.
                I know about these.
                1. pensioner
                  pensioner 5 August 2013 18: 47
                  +2
                  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! +++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++!
                  Okay, at least not at 23-00 I found your picture. Otherwise, he would have woken up his wife ... Otherwise, he just neighing. And not weak! "!!
    2. experienced
      experienced 5 August 2013 13: 21
      +2
      Quote: Gomunkul
      They do not want to take in Iraq, then they would have agreed with Iran.

      Bugaga wassat , there is a contract through American intermediaries who skim the cream off it ... Would you also suggest unloading in Tartus laughing
      1. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 5 August 2013 13: 49
        +3
        Would you still suggest unloading in Tartus
        as a method of influencing the end customer, then yes. laughing
        1. experienced
          experienced 5 August 2013 14: 26
          +3
          Quote: Gomunkul
          as a method of influencing the end customer, then yes.

          Damn, but in fact Ukrainians can "raise money": You don't want to unload Assad, but if you want now, pay 2 prices wassat
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 5 August 2013 15: 06
            +2
            Quote: seasoned
            Damn, but in fact Ukrainians can "raise money":


            What percentage for an idea do you want? winked
            1. experienced
              experienced 5 August 2013 15: 17
              +3
              Quote: Karlsonn
              What percentage for an idea do you want?

              I give away for free drinks
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 5 August 2013 15: 36
                +1
                rushed to Ukroboroneksport

                Quote: seasoned
                I give away for free


                Thank you! drinks
  • pensioner
    pensioner 5 August 2013 12: 57
    +4
    “The Chancellor said, (...) In the next four years, it is necessary to reduce the number of Turks by 50 percent, but this cannot be discussed openly,” the protocol of October 28, 1982 reads.
    But what: the Germans have experience in reducing livestock ... They will remember the past if they can. What did Pope Collie do during the war?
    1. matross
      matross 5 August 2013 15: 35
      +2
      Dad counted the Deutschmarks. He served on the financial side. But Helmut himself shot trochi from anti-aircraft guns at the end of the war ...
  • svp67
    svp67 5 August 2013 12: 58
    +1
    The Pentagon will refuse to purchase F-35?
    The secretary of the US Department of Defense announced the upcoming reduction of the country's armed forces. Instead of 11 aircraft carriers, 8 or 9 will remain in service. The Marine Corps will be reduced. About 10 thousand people will be dismissed from the US Navy
    Everything is somehow more joyful and joyful in my soul. The truth is that there is nothing that pleases so much as the failure of a competitor ... Only the main thing is that they do not get carried away with reductions, otherwise the appearance on the map of some "super-power" of the "United Emirates of Arabia" somehow does not smile ...
  • knn54
    knn54 5 August 2013 13: 07
    +5
    -Nasrallah went out to breathe.
    The air in the region with every victory of Assad becomes cleaner.
    -Pro BRICS Development Bank.
    The main thing is that the process is running.
    -South Korea: upgrade of the submarine fleet.
    And the aggressor is North.
    - Poland will be the strongest in Europe.
    In great power ambitions.
    - How Helmut Kohl drove the Turks from Germany.
    And my son married a Turkish woman ...
    -New cause for American resentment.
    And if Snowden is also awarded ...
    -Ultra-right Tsarnaev.
    The far-right in the United States are those who believe that "American intelligence is behind the September 11 attacks and the 1995 Oklahoma bombings."
    -Pentagon refuses to purchase F-35?
    Let India and the UAE buy.
    -Will be cut and fired.
    Has the Great Implications for the Yankees begun?
    - United States of America and Mexico.
    Zadornov was right.
    PS And what awaits the "stabilization fund" invested in "highly reliable American shares"? Or $ 300 billion is an acceptable price for turning the United States of the early 21st century into a kind of Russia at the end of the 20th century ...
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 5 August 2013 15: 26
      +1
      Quote: knn54
      -Nasrallah


      the name was very amusing laughing
      1. experienced
        experienced 5 August 2013 15: 34
        +4
        Quote: Apollon
        the name was very amusing

        Maybe we remember:
        Vilen - short for Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
        Dazdraperma (there was such a female name) - Long live the First of May.
        Otülschminald! (Otto Yulievich Schmidt on an ice floe).
        Keep laughing wassat
      2. Odessitka
        Odessitka 5 August 2013 15: 37
        +3
        Apollo, good afternoon! Only Nasrallah is not a name, but a surname (by the way, quite common among Arabs, and it doesn’t matter, Christians or Muslims have such surnames, and this name is Hezbalonov-Hassan.
        1. experienced
          experienced 5 August 2013 15: 43
          +2
          Quote: Odessitka
          Only Nasrallah is not a name, but a surname (by the way, quite widespread among Arabs, and it doesn’t matter, Christians or Muslims have such surnames, and this name is Hizbalon-Hassan, the head of this.

          Anyone who can read the messages (comments) of Odessa women, keep in mind that he lives for a long time who knows nothing !!! wassat
          Esther, this is a Zionist project to destroy the goyim on Earth! She spoils the Old, you swallow it, and tomorrow or a bullet in the forehead or moving by truck ...
          To everyone who has already read and does not want to die from a bullet or under the wheels for an absolutely ridiculous price (well, about 10) I can arrange an eftanasia wassat
          I hope that Chevy forum users tend to idiots in PM DO NOT WRITE !!!! wassat
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 August 2013 15: 52
          +2
          Quote: Odessitka
          ! Only Nasrallah is not a name, but a surname (

          Shit is not a name and not a surname is a state of mind laughing
          1. experienced
            experienced 5 August 2013 15: 55
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Shit is not a name and not a surname is a state of mind

            I would clarify, this is a verb from the feminine wassat
  • FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 5 August 2013 13: 08
    +2
    How America bribed the Syrian police. I see nothing wrong with getting 150 euros for free. Well, they took the money, well, they promised to be faithful dogs, but in reality they would continue to serve according to the oath. And the State Department will fulfill the plan for the traitors and the Syrians will earn money. Well, sin is not to throw sworn friends laughing
    SUVs "Wolf" This is a military version of Gelik. How much will they sell? Oh, yes, we support the domestic auto industry and with such duties it will cost as new as Gelik.
  • pensioner
    pensioner 5 August 2013 13: 09
    +1
    Pentagon refuses to purchase F-35
    Flew away ... Not long flew, not long ...
  • Andrey_K
    Andrey_K 5 August 2013 13: 14
    +2
    In the Persian Gulf, a ship with Ukrainian armored vehicles "hangs" for three months, writes newsru.co.il with reference to Dumskaya.net.

    What if a storm?
    This ship can accidentally be attributed to the Syrian coast ... and thrown aground.
    Then they can be objectively checked in the case by the Syrian soldiers who need them.
    1. подводник
      подводник 5 August 2013 13: 17
      +2
      Andrey_K

      Dear look at the map ....
      1. Andrey_K
        Andrey_K 5 August 2013 13: 37
        0
        Well, the storm can be very strong.
        (in addition, the ship can get into it on the way back)
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 5 August 2013 14: 00
          +5
          Quote: Andrey_K
          Well, the storm can be very strong.


          Teleportation is the choice of the masters!
          1. Mart
            5 August 2013 14: 11
            +3
            Quote: Karlsonn
            Teleportation is the choice of the masters!


            + 100500. smile
          2. pensioner
            pensioner 5 August 2013 15: 20
            +1
            Quote: Karlsonn
            Teleportation is the choice of the masters!

            Good afternoon, Carlsonn !! You are always in shock. Inspiration does not end with you. And I'll go try to open the portal ... And not wine ...
            1. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 5 August 2013 15: 37
              0
              Quote: retired
              Good afternoon, Carlsonn !!

              Greetings!
              Heard a vacation soon? I envy ... drinks
              1. pensioner
                pensioner 5 August 2013 17: 29
                0
                Hi again! Glad to hear you (or see?) Yes! Yeah .... you can’t imagine HOW !! And this despite the fact that in March he took 2 weeks, he went home for winter fishing. In my 50, it’s too much. Last kmndr: 1700km. on the map to the place of work (Mordovia). We, as the smartest, went through Kirov, Chuvashia ... It turned out 2000km. At UAZ ... Plus there was +35. Horror !! Plus nearly exploded again. God took away (for the third time). But I have already begun to think about the eternal ...
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 5 August 2013 21: 45
                  0
                  Quote: retired
                  We, as the smartest, went through Kirov, Chuvashia ... It turned out 2000km. At UAZ ... Plus there was + 35. Horror !!




                  Quote: retired
                  . But I have already begun to think about the eternal ...


                  stop Early!
  • Grishka100watt
    Grishka100watt 5 August 2013 13: 23
    +3
    Now the whole question for America is that Obama does not want to identify with Gorbachev - and learn from someone else's example.
    No need to compare them - this is incorrect: the hunchback was not an independent politician, he had his own American authorities, just like Obama, but with the big difference that Obama and his authorities live in one country!
  • vitas
    vitas 5 August 2013 13: 24
    +2
    "Nasrallah came out to breathe"

    At first I was not thinking about that. laughing
  • smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 5 August 2013 13: 32
    +6
    Baghdad does not want Kharkiv Bateers. In the Persian Gulf, a ship with Ukrainian armored vehicles "hangs" for three months, writes newsru.co.il with reference to Dumskaya.net.
    According to an unnamed source, in Baghdad, APCs manufactured by the Kharkov plant were seen and declared that they would not unload such products. Now the ship is waiting for the conflict to be settled at the top. “Se Pacifica” is anchored in neutral waters, at approximately equal distance from Kuwait, Iran and Iraq.
    Dumskaya.net notes that exporters - Ukrspetsexport, Ukroboronservis and Progress - do not pay the shipowner for a simple vessel.

    It’s obvious that Iraq just wants to get off the contract for BTR-4 imposed on it by American and Ukrainian friends, and it’s inventing various methods. Although under the terms of the contract, all 420 BTR-4 vehicles were supposed to be delivered by March 2012, the production of the BTR-4 was encountered at the Kharkov state enterprise Plant named after V.A. Malysheva ”with serious difficulties, and until the beginning of 2013 Iraq received only 88 armored personnel carriers out of 420 ordered (26 were shipped in April 2011 and 62 in October 2012). It is no longer a secret that after paying the advance to the Ukrainian side under this contract, Iraq suspended further payments. At the same time, Iraq is seeking the redirection of the money allocated by the USA from Ukraine to Russia for the purchase of Mi-28 helicopters and the Pantsir anti-aircraft missile-gun systems. An agreement was signed for more than $ 4 billion, it’s not enough for everything, and so they decided to squeeze it out for more necessary than APCs. Moreover, in fact, the entire Iraqi contract for the BTR-4 is just some kind of extravaganza, there is nothing to initiate. Of the 88 cars of the first and second batch, 69 are on the move. The reason as errors in the assembly of the structure is indicated. It was a year ago, they made them or a dozen more silence fell in their press. That is, 420 out of 88 were delivered, and then with a defect to the production rate of our AMZ them as to China. Yours faithfully! hi
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 5 August 2013 14: 09
      +1
      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
      all 420 BTR-4 machines were to be delivered by March 2012 of the year, production of the BTR-4 was encountered at the Kharkov State Enterprise “Plant named after V.A. Malysheva ”with serious difficulties, and before the start of the 2013 year, Iraq received only 88 armored personnel carriers from the 420 ordered


      The contract deadline has been violated, which does not reduce the number of armored personnel carriers currently on board.


      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
      At the same time, Iraq is seeking the redirection of the money allocated by the USA from Ukraine to Russia for the purchase of Mi-28 helicopters and the Pantsir anti-aircraft missile and gun systems. An agreement was signed for more than 4 of a billion dollars, there isn’t enough for everything, and so they decided to squeeze it out for more necessary than armored personnel carriers.


      So we come to the main reason for the rejection of acceptance.


      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
      From 88 cars of the first and second batch on the go 69 machines. The reason as errors in the assembly of the structure is indicated.


      The reasons for the refusal, even when I’m sitting in a chair about a dozen, I’ll think up, the essence is not in them.
      One more time:
      - I do not defend the "arms barons" from Ukraine, but reduce the whole range of problems, both geopolitical and specific (the arms business and the situation in Iraq itself) to burst seams and marriage what - somewhat naive.
      Regards Karlsonn. hi
      1. Kars
        Kars 5 August 2013 14: 21
        +3
        A simple question is, how was the Iraqi commission in Kharkov taking them? When was the weapon test carried out by shooting, etc. So what is needed here. We still say that everything is going as usual.
        1. svp67
          svp67 5 August 2013 14: 25
          +2
          Quote: Kars
          .Our while they say that everything is going as usual.
          And what else can they say in such a situation ...
          1. Kars
            Kars 5 August 2013 15: 09
            +4
            Quote: svp67
            And what else can they say in such a situation ...

            Yes, I would like to read something from the Iraqi strona, but for now, the link is unknown to anyone.
            How, for example, it will be interesting how your Onishchenko will talk about Roshen’s chocolate fire retardants (I supplied them butter, the company) when the doctors of Kazakhstan and a couple of other countries didn’t find him. Maybe the cracks in the armor are the same.

            And the whole question remains as they were received by the Iraqi commission in Kharkov, and she was there.
            1. svp67
              svp67 5 August 2013 16: 37
              +2
              Quote: Kars
              And the whole question remains as they were received by the Iraqi commission in Kharkov, and she was there.
              After a "hot" banquet you will not accept anything, but already at home, having sober up, they looked differently ...
              1. Kars
                Kars 5 August 2013 16: 47
                +2
                Quote: svp67
                After a "hot" banquet, you will not accept anything, but already at home, having sober up, they looked differently ..

                Is this a proven way?
                1. svp67
                  svp67 5 August 2013 17: 22
                  +1
                  Quote: Kars
                  Is this a proven way?
                  Alas, not without this ... sometimes, in order to hand over something ... I had to "pour" a lot of vodka repeat True, not to say that customers resisted strongly ...
            2. svp67
              svp67 5 August 2013 16: 40
              0
              Quote: Kars
              How, for example, it will be interesting how your Onishchenko will talk about benzopyrene
              And you must agree, a talented guy ... and an eye is better than a small scope and a mouth, that that laboratory ... the nose is exactly "downwind." And he loves expensive foreign cars ... in ...
              1. Kars
                Kars 5 August 2013 16: 42
                +2
                Quote: svp67
                And agree a talented uncle

                His roof is good along the way.
                Quote: svp67
                nose - exactly "downwind"

                I think he has someone to call.
                1. svp67
                  svp67 5 August 2013 16: 48
                  +1
                  Quote: Kars
                  His roof is good along the way.

                  At THAT level, she is "ONE ..."
                  Quote: Kars
                  I think he has someone to call.
                  And here it depends on the official, there is a flair and a measure - live, no - resign ...
                  1. Kars
                    Kars 5 August 2013 16: 54
                    +1
                    Quote: svp67
                    And here it depends on the official, there is a flair and a measure - live, no - resign ...

                    vryatli - that ordered something and executed.
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 5 August 2013 16: 56
                      0
                      Quote: Kars
                      vryatli - that ordered something and executed.
                      Not so simple. Serdyukov was also ordered, he began to "burrow" and "get out" - and he was "gone" ...
                      1. Kars
                        Kars 5 August 2013 16: 58
                        +1
                        Quote: svp67
                        he began to "bury himself" and "get out" - and he "left" ..

                        Well, Serdyukov’s love and kindred problems are of no interest to anyone. They didn’t even plant a network.
        2. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 5 August 2013 15: 09
          +3
          Kars Hi comrade !!! fellow drinks
          I'm shooting alone in the trench soldier .


          Khan to everyone, heavy armored vehicles came up! wassat

          Quote: Kars
          A simple question --- how did the Iraqi commission in Kharkov accept them?
          good
      2. smiths xnumx
        smiths xnumx 5 August 2013 14: 29
        +2
        Dear Karlsonn, of course, that in turn, Iraq knocks out a sharp decline in prices. A contract for the BTR-4 was imposed on Iraq by the Americans, in gratitude for Ukraine's support for the occupation of Iraq and for sending its brigade to participate in it. Even a tender for the supply of armored personnel carriers was not held. What does Iraq want at the present time? Don't go to a fortune teller, it's clear what they want. Armored vehicles without defects and problems, at an appropriate price. And they grab problems, Mom, don't worry. Not only is the violation of the terms of the contract, the return for repair or replacement of an automatic cannon (one) can take a year. And it will be not only about Ukroboronexport. Obtaining and processing the necessary documents at the customs takes months. Usually there are tech kits for such cases, but not for dozens of cases, and not for guns. In previous installments, there was information about the defective cannon 30 (which was true) and rusting of the hulls (which was also true). After the withdrawal of American troops in 2012, Iraq purchases equipment on its own, at its own expense. Therefore, they are now trying to use their own funds to purchase more or less normal equipment, as an example of the recent contract with Russia in the amount of 4 billion dollars for the purchase of Mi-28 and Pantsir C1. Iraq needs armored personnel carriers without problems sooner and now, Ukraine cannot supply them, especially since the quality of Ukrainian weapons leaves much to be desired. Yours faithfully! hi
      3. ATATA
        ATATA 5 August 2013 14: 38
        +3
        Quote: Karlsonn
        but to reduce the whole range of problems, both geopolitical and specific (the arms business and the situation in Iraq itself) to bursting seams and marriage is somewhat naive.

        It is naive to hope that such an option (manufacturing defect) in the modern world will fail.
        You didn’t eat, ate you.
        And what kind of "independence" is that, which depends on the whims of Moscow, Brussels and Washington and even Baghdad !! ??
        With personal respect. hi
        ps And why should Iraqis accept defective military equipment?
        1. smiths xnumx
          smiths xnumx 5 August 2013 14: 52
          0
          Quote: ATATA

          It is naive to hope that such an option (manufacturing defect) in the modern world will fail.
          You didn’t eat, ate you.
          And what is this "independence" that depends on the whims of Moscow, Brussels and Washington?

          Well, for example, remember the Russian-Algerian contract for the supply of 32 MiG-29SMTs, when Russia was forced to return the fighters to fighters due to counterfeit and defective parts. The fact that Iraq, like Afghanistan, is currently not an independent country is understandable for a hedgehog, nevertheless, the Iraqi government (Kurdish-Shiite) now desperately needs armored vehicles to fight Islamic extremists, and of course they chose for their OWN money would be an armored personnel carrier with firing guns and normal armor, for example, the BTR-82, especially since the same Ukraine supplied to Iraq former Soviet BTR-80 (98 BTR-80UP) and 50 Ukrainian versions of the BTR-80-BTR-94, and not Ukrainian "homemade products on the knee" called BTR-4.
          As for the act of acceptance, I quote:
          The Admission Act is found in the document management system of post-Soviet countries, including Ukraine, and does not occur in most other countries of the world. I don’t know the contract workflow system in Iraq, but I won’t be surprised if the Delivery and Acceptance Act does not exist there as a legally binding document.

          When signing contracts between legal entities of post-Soviet countries and legal entities of other countries, the Acceptance Certificate is signed, but extends its effect exclusively on the territory of the country that recognizes it. It is very common when foreign contracts insert a special "disclaimer" that although they sign the acceptance certificate, it does not relieve the contractor / supplier / performer from the obligation to provide goods / services without any defects, in accordance with the customer's expectations and the principle good faith. Often, such clauses also attach the contact to arbitration (albeit in Moscow), which follows the international rules of contractual document flow.

          To be brief: Considering the above and the fact that the contract in Iraq was promoted by the Americans, and their specialists are very good at contract "disclaimers", then the Acceptance Act may be just an empty piece of paper signed simply for the sake of compliance with the rules of Ukrainian legislation for Ukrainian legal entities. ...

          Accordingly, the signing of this Act does not oblige Iraq to pay money until they want to pay money. If they already paid the money, and then abandoned the cars, then this is purely their business, what to do with their cars. Let them solve problems in accordance with the provisions on the settlement of disputes / conflicts and on arbitration, which 99.9999% are contained in the contract.
          Yours faithfully!. hi
          1. ATATA
            ATATA 5 August 2013 15: 00
            +3
            Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
            Well, for example, remember the Russian-Algerian contract for the supply of 32 MiG-29SMT, when Russia was forced to return the fighters due to counterfeit and defective parts to the fighters.

            We are talking about the same thing. But I will add that Russia had enough resources to transfer Dryers instead of defective MIGs and restore its reputation as a reliable supplier of military equipment.
            1. smiths xnumx
              smiths xnumx 5 August 2013 15: 04
              +1
              Sorry, I didn’t understand right away! Yours faithfully! hi
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 5 August 2013 15: 43
                +1
                Comrades ATATA и smiths xnumx

                This question remains open

                Quote: Kars
                A simple question is --- how did the Iraqi commission in Kharkov accept them? When was the weapons test carried out by shooting, etc.


                Plus this moment

                Quote: Kars
                Yes, I would like to read something from the Iraqi strona, but for now, the link is unknown to anyone.


                Until there is an answer to them, we can endlessly write out a pretzel with a pitchfork on the water.

                1. ATATA
                  ATATA 5 August 2013 15: 58
                  +2
                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  This question remains open

                  Quote: Kars
                  A simple question is --- how did the Iraqi commission in Kharkov accept them? When was the weapons test carried out by shooting, etc.

                  Yes, you can fantasize on this subject indefinitely.
                  And we will not know the answer.
                  Well, as a basic option, I can assume the material interest of the commission members. The second option: the cursed paws made their way to the ship and while it was sailing, they bit the APCs. laughing
                  I propose to operate on the facts.
                  The facts are that a ship with armored personnel carriers is not unloaded and the Iraqis refuse to unload it for a section.
                  ps I will add, but in confidence. There is a conspiracy against the state "Ukrainen" and the main conspirators sit in the government and parliament of "Ukrainen".
                  But to my regret, this is a conspiracy of idiots, because, for 20 years, they have been tormenting (their / our) people.
                  psd And now I understand why the United States is proposing "Ukrainen" to dispose of 2 tanks.
                  1. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn 5 August 2013 16: 59
                    0
                    Quote: ATATA
                    Well, as a basic option, I can assume the material interest of the commission members.


                    It doesn’t channel, in the sense, in Kharkov, the Iraqis gave on their paw and they accepted low-quality armored personnel carriers belay they won’t return to their homeland, but they’ll have enough of a Kharkov bribe until the end of their days laughing .

                    Quote: ATATA
                    The second option: the cursed paws made their way


                    I think this version will be put forward by the Svoboda party.


                    Quote: ATATA
                    I propose to operate on the facts.
                    The facts are that a ship with armored personnel carriers is not unloaded and the Iraqis refuse to unload it for a section.


                    That's the point - armored personnel carriers were accepted in Kharkov, but what’s the reason for the refusal to unload, I hope to find out.


                    Quote: ATATA
                    ps I will add, but in confidence. There is a conspiracy against the state "Ukrainen" and the main conspirators sit in the government and parliament of "Ukrainen".


                    This is not a secret for anyone, even for those who are sitting or sitting in the Duma and the chair of the president.

                    Quote: ATATA
                    But to my regret, this is a conspiracy of idiots, because, for 20 years, they have been tormenting (their / our) people.


                    They do not set the goal of tormenting the people, by and large the people only interfere with them, their main goal is personal enrichment and nothing more.
                    Unlike Moscow, in Kiev for the "kings of the hill" the main thing is wallet, power and careerism are secondary.
                    1. ATATA
                      ATATA 5 August 2013 22: 00
                      +1
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      It doesn’t work, in the sense in Kharkov they gave Iraqi a paw and they accepted poor-quality armored personnel carriers of the type they won’t return to their homeland, and they’ll have enough Kharkov bribes for the rest of their days

                      Why, today, Jesuit methods are in use.
                      They were offered, they consulted with their homeland, they said take the homeland, then we will divide it, and a new commission will be accepted, like you are not outside.
                      This is a very common scheme today. The "GOOD" guys take, and the "BAD" guys then say, we can't take everything very bad.
                      What did you not know about such options?
                      1. Karlsonn
                        Karlsonn 5 August 2013 22: 27
                        0
                        Quote: ATATA
                        They were offered, they consulted with their homeland, they said take the homeland, then we will divide it, and a new commission will be accepted, like you are not outside.




                        with a scream, he rushed to get his OZK and gas mask from the mezzanine.


                        Quote: ATATA
                        What did you not know about such options?


                        wiping the misted glass of the gas mask with a handkerchief, asks in a plaintive voice:

                        - But after all, Iraq is a warring country, and not a democratic one, is there really no place for such a thing there?
                      2. ATATA
                        ATATA 6 August 2013 09: 18
                        0
                        Quote: Karlsonn
                        - But after all, Iraq is a warring country, and not a democratic one, is there really no place for such a thing there?

                        If consistent with the upper echelon, then why on earth?
                        Grandmas earned money, armored personnel carriers were not accepted, everything is in chocolate, and grandmas can even go to the budget. Why to the wall?
                        In general, it sounded here, but why did they decide that these BTRe were taken by someone in Kharkov?
                        ps Maybe that's why they do not accept that a warring country?
              2. smiths xnumx
                smiths xnumx 5 August 2013 16: 29
                0
                Quote: Karlsonn
                Quote: Kars
                A simple question is --- how did the Iraqi commission in Kharkov accept them? When was the weapons test carried out by shooting, etc.

                From a legal point of view, it is not clear what the Iraqis "received" there and how they were "accepted" in Kharkiv, it is necessary to know the specific documentation. But the cargo on the ship, as is clear from this whole story, is still the property of Ukraine, so de jure, it looks like these BTR-4s were not accepted by the Iraqis.
                Quote: Karlsonn
                Quote: Kars
                Yes, I would like to read something from the Iraqi strona, but for now, the link is unknown to anyone.

                Firstly, information about the "cracks" in this case from the Odessa web resource. So it is you "decide which one of you is a Jew" (c)
                Secondly, what was specifically signed in the acceptance certificate in Ukraine, and what they were supposed to sign in Umm Qasr is hardly known for certain.
                Thirdly, in Umm Qasr, the holds must have been opened.
                And fourthly, it’s actually quite obvious that Iraq just wants to get off the contract for BTR-4 imposed on it by American and Ukrainian friends, and here it’s inventing various ways. What are we writing about.
                Well and again especially for you:
                The Admission Act is found in the document management system of post-Soviet countries, including Ukraine, and does not occur in most other countries of the world. I don’t know the contract workflow system in Iraq, but I won’t be surprised if the Delivery and Acceptance Act does not exist there as a legally binding document.
                When signing contracts between legal entities of post-Soviet countries and legal entities of other countries, the Acceptance Certificate is signed, but extends its effect exclusively on the territory of the country that recognizes it. It is very common when foreign contracts insert a special "disclaimer" that although they sign the acceptance certificate, it does not relieve the contractor / supplier / performer from the obligation to provide goods / services without any defects, in accordance with the customer's expectations and the principle good faith. Often, such clauses also attach the contact to arbitration (albeit in Moscow), which follows the international rules of contractual document flow.
                To be brief: Considering the above and the fact that the contract in Iraq was promoted by the Americans, and their specialists are very good at contract "disclaimers", then the Acceptance Act may be just an empty piece of paper signed simply for the sake of compliance with the rules of Ukrainian legislation for Ukrainian legal entities. ...
                Accordingly, the signing of this Act does not oblige Iraq to pay money until they want to pay money. If they already paid the money, and then abandoned the cars, then this is purely their business, what to do with their cars. Let them solve problems in accordance with the provisions on the settlement of disputes / conflicts and on arbitration, which 99.9999% are contained in the contract.

                Regards to you Karlsonn! hi
                1. Kars
                  Kars 5 August 2013 16: 45
                  +2
                  Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                  torii is still the property of Ukraine, so de jure, it seems, these BTR-4 Iraqis are not accepted.

                  Well you yourself said that
                  Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                  it is necessary to know specific documentation

                  and Kharkiv without advance payment that I would send.
                  Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                  he invents various methods.

                  but is there something from the Iraqi side then?
                  1. smiths xnumx
                    smiths xnumx 5 August 2013 17: 20
                    +2
                    Again you Kars start to distort and try to pull an owl on the globe.
                    Quote: Kars
                    Well you yourself said that
                    Quote: smiths xnumx
                    it is necessary to know specific documentation

                    And you yourself know the specific documentation that you so confidently declare
                    Quote: Kars
                    And the whole question remains as they were received by the Iraqi commission in Kharkov, and she was there.

                    Can you show a scan of the document, where there is a signature of the receiving Iraqi side indicating the full name. and the military rank of the receiver. If it (the act of acceptance and transfer of the armored personnel carrier) really existed, then Ukrspetsexport would have presented it long ago, in confirmation of its words that the contract is being carried out in a regular mode. So far, it is a fact that only one transport ship has been sailing for 3 months with 42 Ukrainian armored personnel carriers-4, which Iraq does not want to receive. By the way, here's the official version of Ukrspetsexport
                    "Victory of the Ukrainian-Iraqi contract should be carried out in the regular mode. Some aspects of the contract are confidential, the company does not comment on the information."
                    .
                    Quote: Kars

                    and Kharkiv without advance payment that I would send.

                    And "prepayment" is how much in money or as a percentage? At the same time, tell me where you got this information about the prepayment? According to bmpd site
                    bmpd 2013-08-03 06:37 am (UTC)
                    According to rumors about 30% http://bmpd.livejournal.com/

                    Quote: Kars
                    but is there something from the Iraqi side then?

                    The question immediately arises, why are armored personnel carriers not yet in the Iraqi army, but at sea? Where are the photographs of their unloading, transfer to military units? All the media, especially Ukrainian ones (the same Tarasenko), choking on saliva with delight, would demonstrate the new BTR-4 in Iraq and refute the "dirty innuendo".
                    1. smiths xnumx
                      smiths xnumx 5 August 2013 17: 37
                      +2
                      Well, now let's look at this whole situation from the point of view of logistics:
                      Since the vessel is in the bay and IRAK does not soar over costs, we conclude that the delivery conditions are clearly not EXW Kharkov. That is, the Ukrainian side is engaged in delivery, and since the Ukrainian side, then the transfer of property rights, will occur at the destination port. Once the ship is kept and not unloaded, then Iraq has every reason to refuse cargo. Such moments are prescribed in the contract. Moreover, as far as I understand, all possible delivery dates for armored personnel carriers have long expired. In short, the arbitration will judge. If arbitration takes the side of Iraq, the reputation of Ukrspetsexport will be extremely negative and, as a result, further refusals may follow.
                    2. Karlsonn
                      Karlsonn 5 August 2013 17: 51
                      +1
                      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                      And you yourself know the specific documentation that you so confidently declare


                      Is the fact of the presence and acceptance of equipment Iraqis documented?
                      Well, then prove that America exists with original documents, otherwise they prompt me from the field that there is no America, that these are all Masonic machinations.

                      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                      Present a scan of the document, where there is a signature of the host Iraqi side indicating the full name and military rank of the receiver.


                      Why comrade Kars should you show anything?

                      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                      If it (the act of acceptance and transfer of the armored personnel carrier) really existed, then it would have been presented by Ukrspetsexport long ago


                      There is an official statement. What's wrong?

                      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                      The question immediately arises, why are armored personnel carriers not yet in the Iraqi army, but at sea? Where are the photos of their unloading, transmission to military units?


                      Armored personnel carriers BTR-4 at the parade in Baghdad.

                      CAPACITY: comrade until the dust settles our argument is fruitless. hi
                    3. smiths xnumx
                      smiths xnumx 6 August 2013 13: 04
                      0
                      Dear Karlsonn, I would like to answer your questions:
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      Is the fact of the presence and acceptance of equipment Iraqis documented?
                      Well, then prove that America exists with original documents, otherwise they prompt me from the field that there is no America, that these are all Masonic machinations.

                      As for the acceptance of equipment. Then, as I wrote in the post above
                      Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                      Since the vessel is in the bay and IRAK does not soar over costs, we conclude that the delivery conditions are clearly not EXW Kharkov. That is, the Ukrainian side is engaged in delivery, and since the Ukrainian side, then the transfer of property rights, will occur at the destination port. Once the ship is kept and not unloaded, then Iraq has every reason to refuse cargo. Such moments are prescribed in the contract. Moreover, as far as I understand, all possible delivery dates for armored personnel carriers have long expired.

                      Acceptance of equipment is usually generally carried out at the customer premises. All military equipment is contracted for the supply of ex-warehouse of the buyer. For aircraft, for example. I can give you another example: the Azerbaijani Mi-35Ms were preliminarily accepted in Russia, the factory workers dismantled and transported for their money, reassembled there, and only then the final acceptance certificate was signed. Acceptance in Ukraine is essentially a preliminary inspection, so that there is completeness in the first place and no external jambs that could be eliminated immediately. In any case, the transfer of equipment will be only after, for example, when the engine starts. To your words about the lack of confirmation of America by real documents, I regard it as a friendly joke, because such documents do not exist about any country in the world. That is, all of them (Russia, Ukraine, hereinafter everywhere) are ordinary Masonic intrigues (Oh, I have these Masons).
                    4. smiths xnumx
                      smiths xnumx 6 August 2013 13: 22
                      0
                      Let's continue dear Karlsonn
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      And why should Kars comrade show anything to you?
                      If Kars itself cannot confirm something, that is, the site of Ukrspetsexport, then there is no need to argue so categorically that the acceptance of the APC has already taken place in Kharkov. Moreover, I fully admit the idea that Kars simply cannot have such documents, then a photo-video of evidence of the unloading of an BTR vessel in Iraq, in the same Umm Qasr.
                      Quote: Kars
                      And the whole question remains as they were received by the Iraqi commission in Kharkov, and she was there.

                      That is, it turns out that the ship from March (loading armored personnel carriers in Odessa, google) to August just hangs out at sea and does not unload. It doesn't seem to you personally a little illogical.
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      There is an official statement. What's wrong?

                      Dear Karlsonn, there is no official statement of Ukrspetsexport, you can ask them on the site. There is, as Kars puts it
                      Quote: Kars
                      unnamed portal source, what else is there to prove?
                      an unnamed source reporting this to Ukrainian Interfax. I repeat specifically for you:
                      The Ukrainian-Iraqi contract is subject to the regular regime. About the price of correspondents of Ukrinform, it was mentioned that the state company "Ukrspecexport" informed about the information in the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry about the fact that the Iraqi side was not allowed to pass the Chergov party to the BTR-4 confidential state. " I would like to inform you ", - on the basis of the contact with the agent of the agency. By handing over to Ukrinform, a contract between Ukraine and Iraq to transfer supplies to the country of 450 units of BTR-4, as to rob the plant named after Malishev (Kharkiv metro station). Repairing from 2010 to the rock, a hundred BTR-4 were delivered to Irak. Http://www.ukrinform.ua/ukr/news/ukrspetseksport_irakskiy_kontrakt_na_post
                      avku_b
                      tr_vikonue_tsya_v_shtatnomu_regimi_1850689.

                      This is all that is available about the official position of Ukrspetsexport.
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      Armored personnel carriers BTR-4 at the parade in Baghdad.
                      The photograph that you provided, esteemed Karlsonn, was dated January 6, 2012 and taken at a parade in Baghdad on the occasion of Iraq Armed Forces Day. This was the first public show of the BTR-4 of the Iraqi Armed Forces from the first batch delivered in April 2011, and now we are discussing problems with the third batch of BTR-4 dispatched from Odessa in March this year.
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      CAPACITY: comrade until the dust settles our argument is fruitless. hi
                      I absolutely agree with you, while there are no official confirmations or rebuttals of the parties. Therefore, I am ready to close this topic and not return to it until official news is received. Sincerely yours! hi
                  2. Kars
                    Kars 5 August 2013 18: 06
                    +2
                    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                    And you yourself know the specific documentation that you so confidently declare

                    You declare also quite confidently.
                    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                    Present a scan of the document, where there is a signature of the host Iraqi side

                    Why do you need it? And in fact, if you think logically and not like you, then loading onto a ship without such a document looks stupid like that. Especially considering that questions arose in the past.
                    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                    bmpd 2013-08-03 06:37 am (UTC)
                    This site is bullshit.
                    And probably 30% of the total contract for all 420 armored personnel carriers is interesting?
                    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                    The question immediately arises, why are armored personnel carriers not yet in the Iraqi army, but at sea?

                    and where is the photo in the sea?
                    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                    choking with saliva with delight, they would demonstrate the new BTR-4 in Iraq and refute the "dirty innuendo".

                    This was done by Ukrspetsexport.
                    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                    In short, the arbitration will judge.

                    will judge.
                  3. smiths xnumx
                    smiths xnumx 5 August 2013 22: 31
                    +1
                    Quote: Kars
                    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977 And you yourself know the specific documentation, that you declare so confidently You also declare quite confidently.
                    I declare so confidently on the basis of the following facts: 1) failure to meet the contract terms: all 420 BTR-4 vehicles were supposed to be delivered by March 2012, but before the start of 2013 Iraq received only 88 armored personnel carriers out of 420 ordered (26 were shipped in April 2011 years and 62 - in October 2012).
                    2) In previous batches of armored personnel carriers already delivered to Iraq, there were already problems with the 30-mm automatic gun and case rusting.
                    Why do you need it? And in fact, if you think logically and not like you, then loading onto a ship without such a document looks stupid like that. Especially considering that questions arose in the past.

                    I have nothing for anything But you would prove to everyone that all the rumors about the poor quality of the Ukrainian BTR-4 are just dirty insinuations of Russian competitors, voiced by "bullshit" sites. And as for the logical thinking, which you simply do not have, would the Iraqis have refused to accept the APCs, the acceptance certificates for which they themselves signed, on the contrary, they would have tried not to release information and reduce the scandal to a minimum. Once again, since the ship is in the gulf and Iraq is not soaring over costs, the delivery is handled by the Ukrainian side, and since the Ukrainian side, then the transfer of ownership will take place at the destination port. Since the ship is being held and not unloaded, Iraq has every reason to refuse the cargo. Such moments are prescribed in the contract. Moreover, all possible delivery dates have long expired.
                    This site is bullshit. And perhaps 30% of the total contract for all 420 armored personnel carriers is interesting?
                    Exactly, which site is not "bullshit" for you. It looks like the site of Andryusha "barosha" Tarasenko or catoflud. Well, here's another site for you, you can also declare it bullshit:
                    According to the source of the portal, 42 units of this cargo have cracks in the hull and are recognized as defective by Iraqis, which is why they do not agree to unload them ashore. At the same time, Ukrspetsexport, Ukroboronservis and Progress company refuse to pay for a simple vessel. The owners of the SE PACIFICA vessel declare their readiness to unload military equipment at the port of any other country and file a petition for the seizure of cargo. I. about. Head of Ukrspetsexport Alexander Kovalenko with officials from the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff went to Iraq to resolve the conflict. One of the options discussed involves the departure of workers from the Malyshev plant in the Middle East, so that they refuse to pay for a simple vessel at the Progress company. The owners of SE PACIFICA declare their readiness to unload military equipment in the port of any other country and file a request for the seizure of cargo. . about. Head of Ukrspetsexport Alexander Kovalenko with officials from the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff went to Iraq to resolve the conflict. One of the options discussed involves the departure of the workers of the Malyshev plant in the Middle East, so that they on site “Progress” refuse to pay for a simple vessel. The owners of the vessel SE PACIFICA declare their readiness to unload military equipment in the port of any other country and file a request for the seizure of cargo. AND. about. Head of Ukrspetsexport Alexander Kovalenko with officials from the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff went to Iraq to resolve the conflict. One of the options discussed involves the departure of workers at the Malyshev factory in the Middle East, so that they can fix the equipment on the spot. Perhaps the Iraqis will then agree to the purchase, but with a large discount.
                    Read more: http://vpk-news.ru/news/16958
                  4. Kars
                    Kars 5 August 2013 22: 44
                    +2
                    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                    I declare so confidently based on the following

                    so what?
                    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                    so you would prove to everyone that all the rumors about the poor quality of the Ukrainian BTR-4 are just dirty insinuations of Russian competitors, voiced by "bullshit" sites

                    And it is, and it is easy to understand from the following
                    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                    According to the source of the portal

                    unnamed portal source, what else is there to prove?
                    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                    http://vpk-news.ru/news/16958
                    ALL-RUSSIAN newspaper


                    This was "Duma" sources in the Odessa company - the representative of the shipowner.

                    A strange source - why not Iraqi officials? They need to know .. to jump out .. from the contract according to your words.

                    it is not necessary that these maneuvers relate to the quality of the armored personnel carrier, otherwise it would be easier to wrap them back in Kharkov - if there are such cracks and so on.
                    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
                    Exactly, which site is not "bullshit" for you. It looks like the site of Andryusha "barosha" Tarasenko or catoflud


                    It's nice that these sites are so unpleasant for you, it's probably hard to go there?
                  5. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn 5 August 2013 23: 33
                    0
                    Kars

                    dispute about anything request , sources on which you can rely - no, only a few episodes of this "epic" are known, how can I debate with this I will not put my mind ...
                  6. smiths xnumx
                    smiths xnumx 6 August 2013 09: 30
                    +1
                    Quote: Kars
                    so what?

                    Never mind. It looks like the "unsurpassed tank explorer" has no arguments. The drain is protected.
                    Quote: Kars
                    And it is, and it is easy to understand from the following

                    That is, all the failures of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex are just "dirty insinuations of Russian competitors"
                    The first batch of BTR-4 (26 pcs) - a production delay of about a year. Upon presentation, the marriage of all guns was revealed.
                    At the same time, it was revealed that on the four An-32s manufactured by Kiev, components from decommissioned aircraft were delivered.
                    The result is a multi-million dollar dollar fine to Ukraine.
                    The second batch of BTR-62 pcs. Supply Plan - March-April 2012 The deadlines are broken again due to the marriage of guns.
                    In June 2012, the party is presented, but Iraq refuses to accept it due to the failure to meet the deadlines. Finally, we agreed. However, loading onto ships is September 12, 2012 (deadline for 5 months).
                    This is also "dirty innuendo".
                    in February 2013, the representative of the Iraqi Parliament’s Security and Defense Commission, Shivan Muhammad Taha, accused Ukraine of supplying low-quality BTR-4s to the Iraqi army and disrupting delivery dates for this contract.
                    “An investigation into the supply of arms to Iraq by Ukraine revealed corruption in the third part of the contract regarding the sale of 420 armored personnel carriers, of which only about 100 are currently delivered, despite the fact that several years have passed since the ratification of the contract,” he said. According to the deputy, in the course of the investigation it was established that all the armored personnel carriers delivered were “very old, corps rusty, cars unsuitable for use”.
                    http://sdelanounas.in.ua/blogs/38028/.
                    Well, it seems that the "bloody" Puten has reached it personally
                    On July 23, 2013, the specialized inter-district court of Alma-Ata (Kazakhstan) sentenced Major General Almaz Asenov, former head of the main arms department of the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan, to 11 years of imprisonment under strict regime, confiscation of property, and deprivation of military rank for receiving a bribe of $ 200 from two employees of the Ukrainian state-owned Ukrspetsexport - the head of the First Regional Department, Alexander Shkolyarenko and his deputy, Alexander Khrulev. Shkolyarenko and Khrulev were sentenced to six years in strict regime and confiscation of property. The trial was closed. Ukrspetsexport and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine issued statements that they will seek the extradition of convicted company employees to their homeland.
                  7. smiths xnumx
                    smiths xnumx 6 August 2013 09: 57
                    +1
                    Quote: Kars
                    unnamed portal source, what else is there to prove?

                    Or maybe you’ll name a source in Ukrspetsexport, which as you confidently say, has refuted everything:
                    Quote: Kars
                    This was done by Ukrspetsexport.

                    We follow the link kindly provided by Tarasenko:
                    The Ukrainian-Iraqi contract will go to regular mode.

                    About the price of correspondents of Ukrinform, it was reported by the state company "Ukrspetseksport", commenting on the information in the Ukrainian ZMI about the news of the Iraqi side and accept the Chergov party of the BTR-4.

                    "Victory of the Ukrainian-Iraqi contract should be held in the regular mode. There are many aspects in the contract, confidential, the company does not comment on the information", - said the spokesperson of the agency.

                    Win also dodav, that "Ukrspeceksport" will officially inform about the completion of the Chergov stage in the implementation of the contract.

                    Having handed over Ukrinform, a contract between Ukraine and Iraq for the transfer of supplies to Ukraine 450 units of BTR-4, in order to rob the factory named after Malisheva (metro Kharkiv). Recovering from 2010 rock, one hundred BTR-4 was delivered to Iraq.
                    http://www.ukrinform.ua/ukr/news/ukrspetseksport_irakskiy_kontrakt_na_postavku_b
                    tr_vikonue_tsya_v_shtatnomu_regimi_1850689. Well, where is the official statement here. in your own words, what else is there to prove? The best proof would be photos and videos from Um Qasr with the unloading of the delivered APCs and the transfer of another batch to Iraq.
                    Quote: Kars
                    A strange source - why not Iraqi officials? They need to know .. to jump out .. from the contract according to your words.

                    I wrote about Iraqi officials in a previous post. Is the representative of the Iraqi Parliament’s Security and Defense Commission, Shivan Muhammad Taha, not an official?
                    Quote: Kars
                    It's nice that these sites are so unpleasant for you, it's probably hard to go there?

                    Well, why was Tarasenko's website at first quite good. until he began to conduct a "tank jihad" with the T-72 / T-90 and Khlopotov, and in the wake of this struggle he did not warm up on his website such stubborn personalities like kotobooda, banned for flooding and terry Russophobia on all military-related websites (BMPD, Courage, Militarity). By the way, kotobood was recently on TOPVAR, under the nickname Protoukr. Lasted only ONE day and was also banned. And the recent hysteria of Tarasenko about Murakhovsky's statement does not paint him. And I regard the kotobood site as just humorous. "Ukrainian sixth generation fighters and ballistic missiles, as well as the Ukrainian fleet that controls the Indian Ocean" is cool !!! Of the latter, "Only the United States can compete with Ukraine in space exploration." "The Three Musketeers" are immediately remembered: "The haberdasher and the cardinal is a great force"
                  8. Day 11
                    Day 11 6 August 2013 10: 05
                    0
                    Old man, I understand, you’re dragging in the tank theme (we noticed). KARS is also not a layman in this topic. I’m catching each other! For example, I can argue with anyone about backlash (if people are competent in this matter).
                  9. smiths xnumx
                    smiths xnumx 6 August 2013 10: 45
                    0
                    Dear Den 11, with great pleasure I will communicate with you on aviation topics. Unfortunately, I can’t say that I can argue with anyone. Call the topic talk. Yours faithfully! hi
                  10. Day 11
                    Day 11 6 August 2013 11: 07
                    0
                    Dear Roman. We will surely argue on this topic (if for you (as well as for me) the topic of Backlash is interesting). There will be a suitable article, do not get lost. You can "CALL" me in PM
          2. smiths xnumx
            smiths xnumx 5 August 2013 23: 37
            0
            Let's continue: as for the cost of the contract, armored personnel carriers were delivered to Iraq under the largest arms supply contract in the history of independent Ukraine for $ 556,5 million (420 BTR-4E units and 6 AN-32 aircraft). How much of this amount, PS minus the cost of aircraft is 30 percent, calculate for yourself, the poor have no servants.
            and where is the photo in the sea?
            .you know perfectly well that there is no such photo yet. As well, there are no photos or videos testifying to the unloading of an armored personnel carrier shipped in Odessa this March. The photograph provided by the respected Karlsonn is dated January 6, 2012 and taken at the parade in Baghdad on the occasion of the Day of the Iraqi Armed Forces. This was the first public show of the BTR-4 of the Iraqi Armed Forces from the first batch delivered in April 2011. Here is the last photo of the BTRBTR-4 of the third batch of 42 cars before loading onto the SE Pacifica vessel. Illichivsk, March 2013 from the Odessa portal dumskaya.net.
            This was done by Ukrspetsexport.

            What did Ukrspetsexport. Here is his statement:
            "Victory of the Ukrainian-Iraqi contract should be held in the normal mode. There are many aspects in the contract that are confidential, the company will not comment on information."
            kt_na_postavku_btr_vikonue_tsya_v_s / htatnomu_regimi_1850689
            . Not denied. Ukrspetsexport's wording as always is cunning and dark, with no substantive answer:
            Especially about the "normal mode" is good if you remember that in the "normal mode" the entire contract should have been closed a year and a half ago. Or do you expect Ukrspetsexport to voluntarily admit that it tried to "sell" defective armored personnel carriers to Iraq and deprive itself of profit? Especially after the latest supply scandals? Well, wait ... Moreover, their shipment in March 2013 was accompanied by such a noise, and Ukrspetsexport in January 2013 even reported:
            The state company "Ukrspetsexport" is not surprised by the increased attention of individual Russian bloggers to the progress of Ukraine's implementation of a large-scale contract for the supply of new Ukrainian armored vehicles to Iraq, a source in the state company told Interfax-Ukraine.
            "Considering that the blogosphere, according to numerous experts, is an advanced component of the modern information space, one should not be surprised, but welcome the attention of those bloggers, in this case Russian ones, who, with increased attention, are tracking such issues of little interest to a wide Internet audience as the implementation contract for the supply of military equipment to a foreign customer ", http: //interfax.com.ua/news/economic/138508.html#.UQ7KuyoZK_V

            will judge
            Of course he will judge, I really hope so. I'd like to hear from you another "conspiracy theory" of "dark forces" with the aim of defaming Ukrainian weapons and about political pressure, as in the story with the purchase of the T-90 by Azerbaijan.
          3. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 6 August 2013 00: 17
            0
            Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
            calculate yourself, the poor have no servants.


            When rudeness begins, the constructive dialogue ends.
            Regards Karlsonn.
          4. smiths xnumx
            smiths xnumx 6 August 2013 09: 38
            +1
            Dear Karlsonn, on the branch about the disposal of T-64 in Ukraine, I suggested Kars to debate correctly and politely, but he refused.
            Quote: Kars
            Quote: smiths xnumx
            Let's not get personal and lead the discussion correctly.
            And let's move on?

            Therefore, I communicate with him the way he wanted it. Yours faithfully! hi
  • svp67
    svp67 5 August 2013 18: 01
    0
    Quote: Kars
    and Kharkiv without advance payment that I would send.
    Are you familiar with all the articles of the agreements? It is possible that the payment went on the basis of, or maybe in installments, tranches, this is more popular ...
    1. Kars
      Kars 5 August 2013 18: 22
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      Are you familiar with all the articles of the agreements?

      We ordered a bactofuga in Germany - the serial (rather) unit is only half a million euros, so the Germans demanded 80% of the prepayment.

      And the fact that Kharkiv found so many working capital was lost, and if the grandmothers had not entered Iraqi, the ambassador would have calmly and not fooled themselves to invent something.
    2. svp67
      svp67 5 August 2013 18: 26
      0
      Quote: Kars
      We ordered a bactofugu in Germany
      Interstate contracts - a little different ...
      Quote: Kars
      And the fact that Kharkiv found so many working capital
      Now the whole industry is working on the LOAN system, there is an order - they take a loan from the bank for it ...
    3. Kars
      Kars 5 August 2013 18: 35
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      Interstate contracts are somewhat different ..

      Yes, with countries such as Iraq, you need to take 100% forward.

      Quote: svp67
      according to the LOAN system, there is an order - they take a loan from the bank for it ...

      vryatli in this case. prepayment and not symbolic.
  • Karlsonn
    Karlsonn 5 August 2013 17: 40
    0
    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
    Well and again especially for you:




    Here we can come up with so many versions that the stupid with his candy wrappers will cry with envy.

    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
    From a legal point of view, it is not clear what the Iraqis "received" there and how in Kharkiv, it is necessary to know the specific documentation.


    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
    information about "cracks" in this case from the Odessa web resource.



    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
    and what they were supposed to sign in Umm Qasr is hardly known for certain.


    There is no information yet to argue about.

    Quote: Karlsonn
    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
    At the same time, Iraq is seeking the redirection of the money allocated by the USA from Ukraine to Russia for the purchase of Mi-28 helicopters and the Pantsir anti-aircraft missile and gun systems. An agreement was signed for more than 4 of a billion dollars, there isn’t enough for everything, and so they decided to squeeze it out for more necessary than armored personnel carriers.

    So we come to the main reason for the rejection of acceptance.

    hi
  • starhina01
    starhina01 5 August 2013 20: 04
    +1
    thank you cartoon very pleased good
  • pensioner
    pensioner 5 August 2013 13: 38
    0
    Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, left the bunker for the first time in two years
    He has an interesting life!
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 5 August 2013 14: 31
      0
      Quote: retired
      He has an interesting life!


  • tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 5 August 2013 13: 41
    +4
    Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, left the bunker for the first time in two years. He attended an event taking place in the Dahiya Al-Janubiya quarter, a southern suburb of Beirut[B] [/ b]
    Sheikh went out, angry Jews will soon again fly to bomb Lebanon.

    Mr. Barton stated that each police officer received at least 150 EUR monthly[B] [/ b]
    We do not pay off the gayts for these grandmothers, and these thought that they would sell their homeland.

    Baghdad does not want Kharkiv Bateers [b][B] [/ b]
    Well, to be honest, it's not just Baghdad.


    [b] And she leaves "from the table of the great powers." Joffe prophesies: the United States has taken an unprecedented position, and now "the dominant superpower offers to neutralize itself - the efforts of enemies are not necessary." [/ B]
    [B] [/ b]

    Obama for 3 term!
  • vitas
    vitas 5 August 2013 13: 41
    +2
    I look at the United States with the army very badly, here they refuse from the F-35, there the aircraft carriers are reducing and the marines, they are leaving Afghanistan. The empire is falling apart.

    The data exchange agreement of 1968, concluded by Germany with the United States and Great Britain, is now terminated.


    Election coming soon wink
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 5 August 2013 13: 47
    +4
    Poland will be the strongest in Europe

    barely climbed out from under the table. well-honored ... still giggling
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 5 August 2013 14: 22
      +1
      it is a sin to laugh at the wretched ..........
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 5 August 2013 14: 38
        0
        Quote: stroporez
        it is a sin to laugh at the wretched.

        from the movie "formula of love" catch the cross
  • Wedmak
    Wedmak 5 August 2013 13: 47
    +4
    The conflict in Syria can be completed within a few months if the population helps the Syrian army restore order, Bashar al-Assad said. This tells the correspondent. RIA Novosti Nadim Zuaui.

    And I said back in the spring that this conflict will end by the new year (but they didn’t believe me). Here's an indirect confirmation. And if two or three more "Syrian express trains" pass, then by next spring we will probably celebrate the victory day of the Syrian version.
    Before October 1, the military will have to decide which programs will be cut down. The reduction in military spending should be 50 billion.

    I wonder if they will decide to abandon the penguin? I think it’s unlikely ... They will finish it for a long and painful time. After all, they have no options to replace the aging Air Force equipment. And you won’t last long for modernization.
    Facebook gays decided to send a dildo to Putin.

    Have they already prepared Vaseline? Or what is now in their trend? But Putin, too, can send oblong items made by the domestic defense industry.
  • washi
    washi 5 August 2013 13: 50
    +4
    How America Bribed Syrian Police
    Well, SASHA never knew how to fight. They bought Nazi criminals in World War II, instead of destroying them.
    Baghdad doesn’t want Kharkov beteers.
    I am surprised. Until recently, we discussed the advantages of Ukrainian armored vehicles over Russian, and here such a jamb.
    Transportation is unprofitable.
    Or maybe recycle? I do not want, after their departure, to fight with the Islamists on German technology.
    Declassified 2240 documents about the crimes of the Second World War.
    And among these documents is there about the destruction of Dresden and other German cities, along with the civilian population? Are there documents about the "disappearance" of several tens of thousands of German prisoners of war in American camps? Are there any crimes of the Welsh, Baltic, Scandinavian, Ukrainian SS units, mass extradition of Jews by ALL "European, democratic" peoples?
    New reason for American resentment.
    What problems? Just set an example of democracy. Allow observers to polling stations, before and the election law itself lead to the European (at least Rossisky). Allow monitoring of prisons to international observers, etc. What they demand from us. The most important thing is the committee of soldiers' mothers, because they not only have girls there, but boys are also raped, and this requires the control of sexual minorities.
    Facebook gays decided to send a dildo to Putin.
    Easy. Let Obama bring, asking. Judging how he defends fagots, Obama himself is a sexual minority. I think there will be no GDP, but it will provide someone from the government, or Moscow Region. Judging by their decisions, there are many attractive ones there.
    United Canadian-Mexican States of America.
    And why would they be surprised if in the first half of the century they were called the North American United States. Then the appetites grew. Yes, and the Monroe Doctrine exerted its influence on the amers. In addition, there have long been rumors about the unification and introduction of a single currency. Those. following the example of Japan (there is no longer Imperial Japan, we have a new, democratic state. We are not responsible for the old), or Soviet Russia - This is all the tsarist regime. As a result, a new state, without debts. (do not store money at the American box office)
  • Hey
    Hey 5 August 2013 13: 51
    +2
    Taking the opportunity, can buy an aircraft carrier from amers at the price of scrap metal?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 5 August 2013 13: 59
      +1
      Taking the opportunity, can buy an aircraft carrier from amers at the price of scrap metal?

      Cut and build a couple of destroyers out of metal.
  • Grishka100watt
    Grishka100watt 5 August 2013 13: 51
    +4
    The human rights organization Human Rights Campaign in an open letter urged the largest Hollywood studios to join the protest campaign against the law adopted in Russia banning the promotion of homosexuality among minors, the Hollywood Reporter reports.

    According to newsru.co.il, the president of the organization, Chad Griffin, emphasized in his message that the adopted law would lead to any LGBT person being beaten in the street or imprisoned. Human rights activists called on the leadership of Hollywood studios to make "clear and clear" statements in support of the LGBT community of the Russian Federation.

    It soon became clear that filmmakers intend to remain silent about this.

    Now in Europe, a system of population reduction is being established (why in Europe? - while only there such laws can be passed, but they want to do this around the world) The bottom line is to equalize homosexuals and lesbians in civil rights with normal people and allow them to conclude marriages (already done).
    Further, through the mechanisms of juvenile justice, to carry out the removal of children from families recognized as dysfunctional and give them to the newly-born same-sex cells of European society (done). In such families, a growing child is more likely to become a new member of the gay / lesbian community.

    That's not all: now in Europe, parents are forced to tell their children about same-sex relationships and "provide a choice" of sexual orientation, depriving parents of the right to raise their children in a normal way.

    It seems to me that some forces are forming a society consisting of normal families and blue "families", and the latter will raise selected children and there will be a LOT of them. Lots of. The more, the better for these forces.

    I even dare to suppose (!) That the juvenile law introduced in Europe will get a logical continuation and result in a new law, according to which a child can only be had with the permission of the juvenile authorities, or something like that. That is, the spouses provide all kinds of certificates there, about the financial condition, go through a commission of psychologists of some sort, take certificates from the police, and so on, and then they are allowed / not allowed to have a child. Not far to this.

    Before, excuse me, they didn’t show the blue ones on TV and no one spoke about them at all - they started showing and saying (who needs it? Those who have big money). The next step is to protect them by law, the next step is to give them children. Following?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 5 August 2013 14: 01
      +1
      Before, excuse me, they didn’t show the blue ones on TV and no one spoke about them at all - they started showing and saying (who needs it? Those who have big money). The next step is to protect them by law, the next step is to give them children. Following?

      And then it will go by itself ... the children, "them", will also not by nature, but from the brain determine their sex. And as for a child's brain, I’m sorry, you can easily. It's just a pity for the kids.
    2. Kipish
      Kipish 5 August 2013 14: 03
      +2
      "Before these, sorry, blue and on TV"
      1. Don’t apologize
      2. Not blue but 3,14 daras.
  • slvevg
    slvevg 5 August 2013 14: 01
    0
    now the name of the leader of Hezbollah I will definitely remember lol
  • Odessitka
    Odessitka 5 August 2013 14: 05
    +2
    Oleg +!
    As Nasrallah put it, Israel poses a threat to Jordan, with what fright? wassat
    Obama received a blow to his reputation - clearly a blow below the belt, now we expect from the United States, new statements of incomprehensible content, about how the United States again saves the whole world, and we ungrateful ones do not understand what to "rejoice" about.
  • smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 5 August 2013 14: 14
    0
    South Korea: upgrade of the submarine fleet. Nine submarines with a displacement of 3000 tons by 2030 and the same number of 1800-ton submarines by 2018 - this is the main content of the submarine fleet development plan approved by the South Korean government. As a result of the “upgrade”, Seoul’s submarine forces will make up at least 70 percent of the similar capabilities of neighboring major powers: China, Japan, North Korea and Russia. This was reported by South Korean media, citing an anonymous source in the Ministry of Defense, reports Oleg Kiryanov (Rossiyskaya Gazeta).
    On August 4, a source in the South Korean Defense Ministry said: “Our Navy is planning for the period from 2020 to 2030. to build and put on combat duty nine submarines of the KSS-III class with a displacement of three thousand tons. ”
    Experts note that in the case of the "three thousandth" submarines, South Korea will significantly strengthen its capabilities for conducting military operations under water. currently on duty on the southerners' sacks of displacement of 1200 tons (class 209) and 1800 tons (class 214) cannot carry cruise missiles and the latest torpedoes on board. Submarines with a tonnage of 3000 tons will be armed with vertical-launch cruise missiles of the U-boat class and other weapons.
    Diesel submarines of the KSS-III class will be able to stay under water much longer than submarines of the 214 class with a displacement of 1800 tons. A source told reporters: “Submarines in 1800 tons can be underwater without surfacing 10 times as long as ships with a displacement of 1200 tons. The class in 3000 tons, although not in 10 times longer may be compared to 1800-tons, but still much longer. "
    It also became known that before the 2018, the South Korean Navy would receive an additional six more submarines with a displacement of 1800 tons. Thus, the total number of ships of this class will be brought to nine.
    Today, the South Korean Navy has 12 submarines in service: 9 with a displacement of 1200 tons and three more with 1800 tons. In general, the Southerners decided that they would bring the total number of submarine fleets to 20 submarines.
    In Seoul, it is noted that its submarine fleet is inferior to the fleet of the closest holdings: Russia, China, Japan and North Korea. The latter, according to Seoul, has about 60-70 submarines.
    “We came to the conclusion that in order to maintain the balance of power, our submarine fleet should average 60-70 percent of the sumbarin fleets of our neighbors. Based on this assumption, we set the bar in 20 submarines with a corresponding qualitative improvement in Sumbarin, ”said an employee of the South Korean Ministry of Defense.

    Excuse me, where are these submarines to South Korea? Already, 12 South Korean diesel-electric submarines of projects 209 and 214 have complete qualitative superiority over 20 North Korean diesel-electric submarines of project 633, developed in the late 50s, made in the USSR, China and North Korea. True, the DPRK still has about 50 mini-submarines, but given their short range and autonomy, they are unlikely to be able to compete with them. That is, either against Japan, which has a fairly significant submarine fleet, in the amount of 16 diesel-electric submarines (5 type 9 Soryu, 9 type Oyashio), with which South Korea has territorial disputes, or against China if it tries to intervene into a conflict on the side of the DPRK. Yours faithfully! hi
  • biglow
    biglow 5 August 2013 14: 25
    +2
    and who knows, the administration of the site on vacation or Airborne Forces Day celebrate
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 5 August 2013 15: 15
      +1
      Quote: biglow
      and who knows, the administration of the site on vacation or Airborne Forces Day celebrate


      Rather, vacation releases, well, the holiday did its job.
      To miss a release is a trifling matter, another thing: to collect material, compose, think about designing, typing, entering pictures --- that after the celebration, the matter is almost Herculean ...
  • biglow
    biglow 5 August 2013 14: 25
    0
    and who knows, the administration of the site on vacation or Airborne Forces Day celebrate
  • vadson
    vadson 5 August 2013 14: 29
    0
    Anek at the expense of America’s uncomfortable situation: Putin and Obama create a Clintonsha by helicopter, then Obama says:
    Volodya let's change.
    Putin: I do not mind, change.
  • Double major
    Double major 5 August 2013 14: 41
    +4
    As always, great review. The position of the author is close and understandable.
  • pensioner
    pensioner 5 August 2013 14: 49
    +3
    Well, finally I waited !! Thanks Oleg !!
    The Se Pacifica is anchored in neutral waters, at approximately the same distance from Kuwait, Iran and Iraq.
    And our brothers are Ukrainians (so normal?), As always in their repertoire. Multi-vector however ...
  • Anti
    Anti 5 August 2013 14: 55
    0
    How America bribed the Syrian police.


    It seems that the scenario as with Iraq did not pass.
  • a52333
    a52333 5 August 2013 15: 01
    +2
    for the sake of maintaining a ghostly reboot in Russian-American relations.

    Let them insert this button into their * opa! ! They didn’t even bother to see how to spell it.
    And that says a lot. They do not give a damn about us (and the rest). They are the navel of the earth!
    1. KG_patriot_last
      KG_patriot_last 5 August 2013 18: 42
      0
      as they called the boat, they sailed laughing
    2. individual
      individual 5 August 2013 19: 11
      0
      In US diplomacy, there was Ctrl + alt + delete.
      left - delete. am
  • viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 5 August 2013 15: 16
    0
    We live in interesting times ... and Oriental surnames are straightforward ... Shit, Galyun ... shit in shit ... why is she and why there ... again, Handelf has some questions in the dark and Diogenes for_S_ranets his lantern somewhere hesitated wassat