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Asylum for Snowden - slap in the face of the White House

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1 August afternoon informant Edward Snowden received temporary asylum in Russia - and left Sheremetyevo by taxi. Or, alternatively, on a gray car with unmarked characters. It is believed that the issue of personal security is now a priority for a former employee of the CIA and the NSA. As for the White House’s reaction to the Russian refugee decision, Obama didn’t even have words, and Senator Lindsey Graham, one of the “hawks,” called on Washington to “hard-answer” Moscow. Not kept silent and the famous Mr. McCain.


Asylum for Snowden - slap in the face of the White House


According to "RG" With reference to ITAR-TASS, Edward Snowden left Sheremetyevo near 15: 30 hours Moscow time. A source in the border department said: "The border control authorities received the necessary documents from the Federal Migration Service, on the basis of which he was given the right to be in the territory of the Russian Federation."

Ilona Yarosh ("Voice of Russia") asked questions about Snowden to the experts.

The lawyer of the former US intelligence officer Anatoly Kucherena said that Snowden left on a regular taxi and alone. He added: “Snowden was granted a certificate of temporary asylum in the territory of the Russian Federation. According to the current Russian legislation, this document is issued for one year. That is, it must be located on the territory of the Russian Federation for a year. ”

Kucherena said: “He remains on the territory of Russia, then he will want to go to Europe, America — he will personally solve these issues already. To date, he has no such plans yet. ”

Also, the lawyer noted that Snowden had got in Russia friends-Americans who would help him.

Sergei Markov, member of the Public Chamber, Vice-Rector of the Plekhanov Russian University of Economics, believes that E. Snowden will remain in Russia for a while: “If the Americans continue to block Snowden’s stay in Russia, then he will be forced to remain in Russia. We cannot give Snowden to them from our territory for several reasons. The first reason is legal. We do not have an agreement with the Americans on the need for mutual extradition of criminals, despite the fact that we have offered the Americans to conclude such an agreement many times. In addition, Snowden did not violate any of our laws. And in America, Snowden is threatened with torture, an unfair trial and the death penalty. ”

Alexander Sorkin ("Voice of Russia") reports that German human rights organizations awarded Edward Snowden the “Disclosure Award - 2013”.

The head of the German branch of the organization “Transparency International” Edda Muller gave an exclusive interview to the Berlin office of the Voice of Russia. Here is what she said about the award: “The Exposure Award” was established by the Association of German Scholars (VDW) and the German branch of the international association of lawyers opposing nuclear weapons (IALANA). We took part in this ceremony, because the topic of information protection, from our point of view, is of great interest today against the background of the global spread of communication technologies. How can we protect our data in this situation? We believe that Snowden committed a courageous act. Thus, we once again wanted to emphasize our demand for the protection of whistleblowing informers. ”

To the question “Do you personally consider Snowden a hero?” Edda Muller replied:

“I consider him a person who meets all the criteria of the whistleblower. He acts unselfishly, boldly, and, based on this, his actions deserve every respect. If one assumes the severity of the punishment that he may expect, and this we can observe in the example of the Manning case, then its severity is simply impossible to imagine. A man appears who exposes espionage and is put on trial for his act. This is not quite clear to me. Can you call him a hero? I believe that he showed great civic courage, and such people are necessary for our society. ”


A slightly different reaction followed from the American side. It turns out that the United States differs greatly in the issue of human rights and its freedoms with human rights organizations. News about granting Snowden political asylum in Russia simply “infuriated” the American parliamentarians, reports “Fox News”. Republican Senator Lindsay Graham, for example, believes that Putin does not respect Obama.

"If this information is true, Washington should regard this as a turning point in relations with Russia," - quotes "InoTV" the words of the Republican Senator Lindsay Graham.

He called Russia's decision a provocation and "a sign of Vladimir Putin’s apparent lack of respect for President Obama." The senator urged the US government to give a "hard answer" to Russia's decision.

Other American statements leads "BBC".

White House spokesman Jay Carney said: "We are extremely disappointed with the decision of the Russian government, despite our clear and legitimate official requests and requests for the extradition of Snowden to the US in private conversations."

He stated that Moscow had not informed the United States in advance about the decision to grant political asylum to Snowden.

Yes, we add from ourselves, not like in Yeltsin's times. Nobody asks for advice or approval from the Washington Regional Committee. Even more so - permissions.

Regarding the decision of Russia, Senator John McCain also spoke, of course. He said: “Today’s decision of Russia is an outrage, the purpose of which is to humiliate the United States. This is a slap in the face to all Americans. It is time to radically reconsider our relations with Putin's Russia. ”

As for Obama, he didn’t even have words in response to the decision of Moscow on Snowden.

As transmits correspondent RIA "News" Peter Martynychev, the US president did not comment on the situation with the provision of temporary asylum to Russia Snowden.

After negotiations with the president of Yemen, several journalists asked Mr. Obama to comment on the situation with Snowden. In response, the head of state said with a smile: "Thank you all."

As noted by correspondents The Guardian A. Lun, L. Harding and P. Lewis, President of Russia V. Putin did not comment on Snowden. But, after weighing all possible options for several weeks, he seems to have decided, the authors write notes that Snowden’s propaganda value outweighs any possible consequences regarding relations with the United States.

The Guardian provides information on the departure of Snowden from Sheremetyevo as follows. Referring to the TV channel “Russia-24”, journalists write that Snowden got into a “gray car with no identifying marks”.

The Guardian also reports that his father, Lon Snowden, is going to visit Snowden. Kucherena's lawyer said that he sent an invitation to Snowden Sr. so that he could receive a Russian visa.

Leads the British newspaper and the details of the statements of Senator McCain. It turns out that he put forward a number of proposals against Russia: he proposed to expand the Magnitsky list, insist on accepting Georgia into NATO and implement the US missile defense program in Europe.

The latest survey showed, correspondents write that 43% of Russians support the granting of asylum to Snowden, and 51% approves of his exposing activities. Kucherena's lawyer said he received a lot of letters from Russian people who offer housing, protection and money to Snowden. He also said that there were letters from women romantically interested in Snowden.

Finally, Pavel Durov, the founder of VKontakte, invited Snowden to work as a network programmer.

Comrade Snowden himself, we note in conclusion, thanked Russia for providing him with asylum. On the WikiLeaks website, he published a statement in which the US government is openly accused of contempt of international law. The text says:

“Over the past eight weeks, we have observed how the Obama administration has shown disrespect for international and domestic law. However, in the end, justice triumphed. I thank the Russian Federation for providing me with asylum in accordance with the laws of the country and international obligations. ”


Welcome to Russia, comrade!

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
Photos used:
http://www.golos-ameriki.ru/content/snowden8/1715808.html
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  1. Refund_SSSR
    Refund_SSSR 3 August 2013 10: 04 New
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    Call slap not a desire to lick the American ass?
    I think you shouldn't be so humiliated and called a "slap in the face" the usual refusal of unacceptable and outrageous behavior, to which our American "friends" tried to force us.
    1. 11 black
      11 black 3 August 2013 10: 38 New
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      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      Call slap not a desire to lick the American ass?
      I think you shouldn't be so humiliated and called a "slap in the face" the usual refusal of unacceptable and outrageous behavior, to which our American "friends" tried to force us.

      You are right in something - but you will agree, compared with Yeltsin, progress is evident yes
      By the way, we didn’t call it a slap in the face - it was McCain who was humiliated hi
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 3 August 2013 11: 17 New
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        Quote: 11 black
        You are right in something - but you will agree, compared with Yeltsin, progress is evident
        By the way, we didn’t call it a slap in the face - it was McCain who was humiliated

        There is a steady tendency in the underestimation of American national identity and the dismay of the White House administration, the Senate and Congress.
        Until Russia makes a decision on Snowden (which in itself can be called CRISIS и EPOCHAL in relations between Russia and the United States), the administration of the White House, the same Senate and Congress were not worthy to find " application points"for"leverage"to our country ...
        The question is, why? Yes, because NO already these notorious "points", and the American "lever" more and more resemble rotten snag.
        To howl raised in the Western press we will answer SO:
        1. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 3 August 2013 11: 32 New
          39
          Asylum for Snowden - a slap in the face to the White House - well, I think a slap is the least we can do for "dear Americans" - deserve it. Old man McCain must have gone all over the place)). This development of events certainly pleases.
          1. Sakhalininsk
            Sakhalininsk 3 August 2013 12: 07 New
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            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            Old man McCain probably all went to shit))


            I would reward this senility ... it is a pity that not all the mattresses serving in the army of the Pendustan are such professionals as this miracle-yudo))))
            1. elmi
              elmi 3 August 2013 13: 17 New
              55
              Asylum for Snowden - slap in the face of the White House

              And how many slaps America in this case gave us, if you count how many traitors and traitors, bandits America sheltered? parity is clearly violated in favor of America since Soviet times. Under the USSR, we responded the same way to every arrest of our citizen, why didn’t we respond in the same way to Bout’s landing in America? Amers behave with impunity, and even Amer mongrels - the Baltic countries are doing their best to them, in Lithuania they seem to be going to America to send our citizen on suspicion of espionage. And our government is limited only by protests ???? - reminds a pug that not only barks but it bites the elephant, and the elephant just groans and resents ...
              When our authorities have the self-awareness that we do not live in a small country, but in a huge superpower, we need imperial feelings, patriotism, firmness and pride, and many qualities inherent in a superpower. Or is it only oppositionists who have enough hardness to plant any Khodorkovsky?
              1. kartalovkolya
                kartalovkolya 3 August 2013 16: 14 New
                32
                I agree with you completely! And to pay attention to the screams of the insolent man who has been put in his place is more expensive. It’s time for our leader to be self-respecting and stop paying attention to what they think or say about us in the West. It’s time to remind them of the time when without permission from S. A single gun could not fire Petersburg in Europe. The parasites of Katya II have forgotten! It’s time to remind!
              2. Massik
                Massik 4 August 2013 12: 17 New
                -15 qualifying.
                Although star-striped and almost rotted, they are still quite strong and may well try to start a war with us as a medicine, if we give them a reason, but do you need this ???
                1. vyatom
                  vyatom 4 August 2013 15: 33 New
                  12
                  Quote: Marssik
                  Although star-striped and almost rotted, they are still quite strong and may well try to start a war with us as a medicine, if we give them a reason, but do you need this ???

                  They won’t start a war with us - the gut is thin
                  1. nycsson
                    nycsson 4 August 2013 19: 08 New
                    23
                    Quote: vyatom
                    They won’t start a war with us - the gut is thin

                    Open your eyes! She has been going for a long time. They only fight with us with the help of alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, GMOs. I forgot the media.
                    1. yak69
                      yak69 4 August 2013 23: 24 New
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                      Quote: nycsson
                      She has been going for a long time. They only fight with us with the help of alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, GMOs. I forgot the media.

                      And with the help of his agents in our Government - red, dvorkovich, ...... everyone can continue the list himself!
                      1. yak69
                        yak69 4 August 2013 23: 31 New
                        +6
                        It should be noted that the PR move is wonderful! Giving refuge to a CIA agent, and even their high-profile whistleblower, is worth a lot.
                        I think these moments will do more than a whole company of propaganda operations. The image of these villains has been crumbling lately, which negates all their efforts for self-propaganda. I am sure that many people in the world and themselves, are now reviewing their likes and dislikes.

                        Revaluation of values, however ...
                      2. nycsson
                        nycsson 5 August 2013 07: 47 New
                        +2
                        Quote: yak69
                        And with the help of his agents in our Government - red, dvorkovich, ...... everyone can continue the list himself!

                        That's right! hi
                  2. Massik
                    Massik 7 August 2013 00: 46 New
                    +2
                    Well, well, there are many examples in history, which only.. 41 years are worth, too, after all, "we will conduct offensive battles on their territory" thought
                2. The comment was deleted.
                3. Bykov.
                  Bykov. 5 August 2013 10: 44 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Marssik
                  ... Although star-striped and almost rotted, they are still quite strong and may well try to start a war with us as a medicine ...

                  Well, except perhaps with the hands of the "bearded" radical marginalized from Central Asia and the Middle East, and they themselves are unlikely to dare stick their way around, since we have missiles.
                4. Andrew-001
                  Andrew-001 6 August 2013 02: 56 New
                  0
                  Massik? and what do you think we need to do ?!
                  "Katz offers to surrender" (c) ?!
              3. vyatom
                vyatom 4 August 2013 15: 32 New
                +9
                Quote: elmi
                Asylum for Snowden - slap in the face of the White House

                And how many slaps America in this case gave us, if you count how many traitors and traitors, bandits America sheltered? parity is clearly violated in favor of America since Soviet times. Under the USSR, we responded the same way to every arrest of our citizen, why didn’t we respond in the same way to Bout’s landing in America? Amers behave with impunity, and even Amer mongrels - the Baltic countries are doing their best to them, in Lithuania they seem to be going to America to send our citizen on suspicion of espionage. And our government is limited only by protests ???? - reminds a pug that not only barks but it bites the elephant, and the elephant just groans and resents ...
                When our authorities have the self-awareness that we do not live in a small country, but in a huge superpower, we need imperial feelings, patriotism, firmness and pride, and many qualities inherent in a superpower. Or is it only oppositionists who have enough hardness to plant any Khodorkovsky?

                It is high time to press the Baltic goats of Lithuanians and Labuses to the nail. Personally, in principle, I do not buy Latvian sprats and any Lithuanian g ... but.
                1. Shoma-1970
                  Shoma-1970 4 August 2013 20: 25 New
                  +8
                  You’re sprats, but I don’t even buy American equipment, as well as those who support them, it’s a pity that there is no alternative to computers and Windows, I’ll fight all my life than I can with Americans and their ideology, the USA axis of evil on earth, parasites, blood at all of the world, if everyone will boycott something, the result will come, fascist Germany at one time acted like this, we know the result. Thank you for the attention!
              4. Skiff-2
                Skiff-2 4 August 2013 17: 51 New
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                Quote: elmi
                When our authorities have the self-awareness that we do not live in a small country, but in a huge superpower, we need imperial feelings, patriotism, firmness and pride, and many qualities inherent in a superpower. Or is it only oppositionists who have enough hardness to plant any Khodorkovsky?

                But to the self-consciousness of both the authorities and the people, yesterday's news pleased - in Gelinzhik, American scum-rockers who defiled the Russian flag in Odessa were expelled from the country with the drawing up of a protocol (the bassist was detained and testified) and a ban on touring, while leaving the hotel they were thrown rotten tomatoes, and at the airport the Cossacks gave 3,14 fizzy with an attempt to strangle the American flag, after which the flag was flogged with whips ... I was pleased with the speed of reaction and the authorities and ordinary citizens, it is a pity that in Odessa there was no one to steal from the stage and feed the bastard (translation of English the words "punk") his underpants.
                1. Gur
                  Gur 5 August 2013 09: 37 New
                  0
                  But this horseradish, which was blocking under the general hooting, sucked, the maloros were silent, either it wasn’t their flag, or were they not the maloros, where those hot heads sho so much hate the mask, and forgive everyone for the amers, even their ooson banner?
              5. yurii p
                yurii p 4 August 2013 18: 06 New
                +2
                When our authorities have the self-awareness that we do not live in a small country, but in a huge superpower, we need imperial feelings, patriotism, firmness and pride, and many qualities inherent in a superpower. Or is it only oppositionists who have enough hardness to plant all kinds of Khodorkovsky?? Of all the above, such qualities are just not seen in power, one indisputable quality is irrepressible greed and snobbery.
              6. m.asfa
                m.asfa 8 August 2013 23: 53 New
                0
                It's time to realize that Russia is no longer a superpower. We can’t even influence our neighbors. And how many traitors of Russia escaped to the USA and no extradition, or maybe we did not ask for extradition.
            2. Arthur 775
              Arthur 775 3 August 2013 14: 23 New
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              My friend you can’t say better, +++, This theme with the Americans and Snowden looks like that.
              In fact, the good for Russia is to show the dullness of the amers.
              Another thing is that as amers, most of the countries (NATO), and this community, so to speak, have one desire, to tear Mother Russia apart.
              So it turns out everything goes to the "iron curtain", but are our (liberally tolerant, homegrown baryzhniy shitokrats) ready for this ???
              1. Oleg14774
                Oleg14774 3 August 2013 18: 36 New
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                Quote: Arthur 775
                So it turns out everything goes to the "iron curtain", but are our (liberally tolerant, homegrown baryzhniy shitokrats) ready for this ???

                Even the mood has risen, will all this infection from behind the hillock cease to come here, including the media !?
                1. Anti
                  Anti 4 August 2013 20: 34 New
                  +1
                  What kind of euphoria with this defector, chickens in the fall count. winked
              2. Simon
                Simon 3 August 2013 23: 45 New
                10
                And there will be no "iron curtain", the time is not right. Now time is working for Russia, not for the states. In Asia, the war, which the amers themselves started, and oil oh, how you want.
              3. nycsson
                nycsson 4 August 2013 19: 23 New
                +1
                Quote: Arthur 775
                So it turns out everything goes to the "iron curtain", but are our (liberally tolerant, homegrown baryzhniy shitokrats) ready for this ???

                Of course not! Grandmas are all there! laughing
          2. Basil123
            Basil123 3 August 2013 12: 25 New
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            hello everyone, it would be fun to listen to the reaction of the geyropa to their komenti)))))))))))) They are quietly happy that he didn’t drop by, would have to ride on the black horse or fall below the kangyu in front of his people)))) )))
          3. Seraph
            Seraph 3 August 2013 13: 16 New
            47
            Who lives in modern Russia, and I’m happy that I’m Russian and live in Russia. Especially, remembering the restructuring and the 90s. We again become what we should be.
            I also have a lot of problems: I also encounter our bureaucratic system, I drive along the same roads, and there is always not enough money, and there are plenty of immigrants around. But the changes for the better are clearly felt. I am proud of my country! In particular, for the fact that for a long time we have not fooled before the West
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 4 August 2013 05: 18 New
              +8
              Well, there’s nothing to be proud of Sim so far ... and for the first time we showed the middle finger so boldly to the West. but the trend is encouraging ... we'll see ...
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          5. vlad767
            vlad767 3 August 2013 17: 51 New
            15
            The news of giving Snowden political asylum in Russia simply “enraged” American parliamentarians.

            Get angry, get mad! fellow You have nothing else left! Russia is not Latvia or Lithuania, which unquestioningly comply with all the requests of the United States, and not Ecuador, which you can try to strangle with sanctions. Fuck you Snowden now get it. bully
            John McCain said: “Russia's decision today is an outrage, the goal of which is to humiliate the United States. This is a slap in the face to all Americans.

            To humiliate the USA? Yes, you have humiliated yourself. smile A slap in the face to all Americans? But you do not speak for everyone. This is a slap in the face of the American government. More than half of Americans support Snowden. yes And you, too, did not extradite anyone to Russia. So there is nothing to be offended. They carry water to the touchy. lol
          6. sergaivenski
            sergaivenski 4 August 2013 04: 57 New
            20
            Dear Members of the Forum, Hello !!! Peace be at your Home !!! Let the Americans go out !!! In 1970, a dad and a son named Brazinsky killed a young flight
            Nadezhda Kurchenko, a native of the city of Glazov, seriously injured the crew, hijacked a plane to Turkey !!! Then the CIA helped these "suffering life in the free world" criminals to move to the United States. And how much the USSR government, personally Leonid Brezhnev
            did not appeal to the then hand (s) to US drivers with a request to extradite criminals of the USSR
            for a fair trial over them, US President Richard Nixon then "shook" this issue, ultimately the criminals remained in the US. What do these newly-minted "masters of the world" want from our country now ???
            -other ??? And they don’t need horseradish with paws ???
            1. vyatom
              vyatom 4 August 2013 15: 36 New
              +4
              So it was Ipani Balts? It was necessary to drown these goats forces GB
          7. SOKOL777
            SOKOL777 5 August 2013 00: 52 New
            0
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            Old man McCain probably all went to shit)


            NO COMMENTS... wassat
        2. Russian
          Russian 3 August 2013 12: 25 New
          -8
          I do not understand this general hysteria about this Snowden. It looks like the same not healthy PR with Deperdier. And they are free housing, and offer work. Let me remind you, by the way, that then, under the guise they passed a law authorizing the entry of this riffraff from Central Asia, but this is so for the record. And in the case, what more to be proud of than? And most importantly, nothing more to do? Everything is probably fine in our country. Yesterday, on the news, they showed that they built a pool in Krasnodar with all the infrastructure for 250 million rubles, when filled with water, the bowl could not stand it and the water washed away part of the wall. And what do you think? This turned out to be a normal case! Responsible persons said that all the rules and regulations were observed, and officials that a lot of all kinds of structures are being introduced in Russia, well, think of one such incident, what can you do now?
          In general, the wrong values ​​we have now. And finally, I want to give a text from one song:
          Everything is fine, we are told every day, everything is fine, the free school will be canceled,
          All is well, the pension allowance is two hundred rubles, all is well, close the doors behind you.
          From Tajikistan, the powder, everything is fine, you need to help immigrants with documents,
          The crisis revealed nest egg, it’s good that it passed, half of the deputies are criminal elements.
          Everything is good, the factories have become shops, everything is good, the courts are still pulling rubber,
          Everything is good, g-th-parades are guarded forever, everything is good, people on the shoulder are pushing by oncoming people.
          The neighbors have not known each other for eight years, everything is fine, a woman fell in the middle of the road, they won’t raise her,
          Slavic culture for the Nazis, got it? Will it be good if they take it away?
          1. smile
            smile 3 August 2013 13: 21 New
            20
            Russian
            Why didn’t you notice that it was not us who raised hysteria for Snowden? Why are you blaming her for inflating us?
            What, so you want to cry, everything is bad, everything is lost? What do you think that it is more fun to rebuild the country under the screams "everything is bad with us and it will be even worse"?
            There is such a thing, depression is called ... some unfortunate people can not cope with it without medical intervention ... on the contrary, they enjoy their all-encompassing, picking up wounds on their psyche, driving themselves into depresnyak deeper and deeper .... judging according to your comment, this is about you .... and the woman should have been helped to rise, not to watch her and moan, what are the circle of bad people who are brought to heartlessness by bad Power ....
            1. 12345
              12345 3 August 2013 13: 44 New
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              Quote: smile
              And why didn’t you notice ...


              Because it is the same "Russian" as I am "Chinese Mandarin". This is not hidden.

              Compare: "Russian" and "r_u_s_s_k_i_y". As they say in Odessa: "Taki, these are two big differences."
              1. Oleg14774
                Oleg14774 3 August 2013 18: 46 New
                -1
                All! p_u_s_s _... came under the distribution! This site is not for him!
                1. Hleb
                  Hleb 3 August 2013 19: 05 New
                  10
                  but here rarely is anyone under the distribution? not rarely and not in the case.
                  for him, the site is not for him, a kindergarten.
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                  1. alicante11
                    alicante11 4 August 2013 11: 29 New
                    0
                    I mean for nycsson
                    1. nycsson
                      nycsson 4 August 2013 19: 10 New
                      -2
                      Quote: alicante11
                      I mean for nycsson

                      You know better! lol
              2. Hleb
                Hleb 3 August 2013 19: 11 New
                +3
                Compare: "Russian" and "r_u_s_s_k_i_y
                "
                12345-went koyan walk
              3. Russian
                Russian 3 August 2013 20: 11 New
                +7
                Quote: 12345
                Quote: smile
                And why didn’t you notice ...


                Because it is the same "Russian" as I am "Chinese Mandarin". This is not hidden.

                Compare: "Russian" and "r_u_s_s_k_i_y". As they say in Odessa: "Taki, these are two big differences."


                What is not hiding? Do you even understand what you write? Check, damn it, thieves
                1. nycsson
                  nycsson 3 August 2013 23: 12 New
                  +2
                  Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
                  Do you even understand what you write?

                  Pay no attention! There are many such "smart guys"! hi
                  1. 12345
                    12345 3 August 2013 23: 45 New
                    -5
                    Quote: nycsson
                    This site is for persons not "disfigured" by intellect! wassat


                    Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
                    Do you even understand what you write? Check, damn it, thieves


                    Quote: nycsson
                    So what? This is just a nickname! No more, no less! And you have 12345! laughing


                    Avon, as "decorated" with "intelligence" "goose" overexcited!

                    Absolutely predictable behavior. You can't get rid of "millennial" traditions so easily ...

                    And here is the nickname? Despite the fact that here old Freud definitely "rules" ...
                    I wanted to look "Russian" so much that I overdid it.

                    Not realizing that the wolf - at least ten sheep’s skins, he will give himself out howling.
                    1. nycsson
                      nycsson 4 August 2013 19: 19 New
                      0
                      Quote: 12345
                      Avon, as "decorated" with "intelligence" "goose" overexcited!

                      How do you distinguish Russians from non-Russians? Perhaps intuition tells you? laughing
                      Quote: 12345
                      And here is the nickname? Despite the fact that here old Freud definitely "rules" ...

                      This is not for average minds! wassat
                      Quote: 12345
                      Not realizing that the wolf - at least ten sheep’s skins, he will give himself out howling.

                      They do not howl here, but express their opinion! Respect someone else’s opinion, even if you don’t like it. And filter the bazaar. There are no wolves here. Here are all the people.
                      1. 12345
                        12345 4 August 2013 22: 34 New
                        +2
                        Quote: nycsson
                        How do you distinguish Russians from non-Russians?


                        I do not divide people into "Russian and non-Russian". I distinguish Jews from non-Jews. In about the same way as the fascists are distinguished from ordinary Germans.

                        It's quite simple.

                        1. Pay attention: I mentioned overexcited "gussky".

                        2. You have translated my mention in the plane "Russian-non-Russian". Thus, there is a classic "distortion", that is, a substitution of concepts. This is a favorite "cartoon" of the adherents of Jewry as an ideology: to distort the opponent's thought in order to blame him for this.
                        3. It was not in vain that I mentioned the overexcitation of the "gusskys". Another favorite "mulka" is to color the discussion with the most negative emotions as much as possible, to try to turn the discussion into a scandal, into a squabble, into a stream of the most primitive and dirty insults.

                        Quote: nycsson
                        And filter the bazaar. There are no wolves here. Here are all the people.



                        Let me explain for the "especially gifted":

                        "The wolf in sheep's clothing" is a metaphor. If you need to further interpret the word "metaphor", do not hesitate - tell me. For people communicating in terms of a "filtered bazaar", the concept of "metaphor" is often an insurmountable difficulty in perception.

                        Very often, Jews deliberately include "misunderstanding" in order to be able to once again stand in their favorite position of "unjustly humiliated-persecuted".

                        Thus, based on the example of your behavior, all those present can make an unmistakable conclusion that you are a Jew.
                      2. nycsson
                        nycsson 5 August 2013 07: 53 New
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                        Quote: 12345
                        Thus, based on the example of your behavior, all those present can make an unmistakable conclusion that you are a Jew.

                        Quote: 12345
                        I do not divide people into "Russian and non-Russian". I distinguish Jews from non-Jews. In about the same way as the fascists are distinguished from ordinary Germans.

                        I read your answers. Kindergarten. You are just ridiculous. You distinguish Jews from non-Jews! wassat
                      3. 12345
                        12345 5 August 2013 12: 07 New
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                        Quote: nycsson
                        I read your answers ...


                        Another "classic" purely Jewish "touch": when there is absolutely nothing to say, primitive assaults begin, note:

                        Quote: nycsson
                        Kindergarten. You are just ridiculous.


                        At the same time, apart from the already mentioned, consciously whipped up negative emotions, there is no intelligible counter argumentation. This is called "gulp".

                        By the way, citizens, their Jewish identity, the character "nycsson" does not deny.

                        Jews are also present among the administrators of this site. This is also fairly easy to calculate using simple arithmetic. For example - the so-called "fell" sharply. local "rating", and in a clear inconsistency with the balance of "ratings".

                        If we add to this the fact that my rather innocuous comments on Israel were removed, the picture emerges quite "prominently": a small "conspiracy theory" on a separate patriotic (!) Site.

                        What is happening nationwide - one can only guess about it ...

                        However, not everything is so hopeless: after my complaint, the comments were restored in full. Therefore, in the team of "admins" - NOT ALL "ours". Another question is, what is the dynamics of the process: does the percentage of "God-chosen administrators" increase or decrease over time?

                        If it grows, then the site is doomed, in full accordance with the processes described by comrade N.V. Gogol in the story "Taras Bulba", on the example of the activities of a certain Yankel.

                        If the percentage of "God-chosen admins" on the site decreases over time, then all is not lost for the country.


                        Regarding the "ratings", I specifically draw your attention to the fact that to me personally, all these "ratings and titles" are definitely "on the drum".
                        Even if the local "Jewish mafia", together with their combined efforts, drive my "ratings" into - "skull and ban", I will easily register again. Under a very similar "nickname".

                        Well, all other citizens will clearly see WHY the "ban on professions" is so relevant for certain groups of citizens on a national scale.
          2. Tverichanka
            Tverichanka 3 August 2013 22: 59 New
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            Quote: 12345
            se: "Taki, these are two big

            Or four little ones .......
          3. nycsson
            nycsson 3 August 2013 23: 07 New
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            Quote: 12345
            Because it is the same "Russian" as I am "Chinese Mandarin".

            You did not confuse?
            Quote: 12345
            Compare: "Russian" and "r_u_s_s_k_i_y". As they say in Odessa: "Taki, these are two big differences."

            So what? This is just a nickname! No more, no less! And you have 12345! laughing
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          1. smile
            smile 3 August 2013 15: 56 New
            +6
            Arthur 775
            If you say that a positive and negative assessment of someone’s opinion is nonsense, then did you get into trouble, huh? :))) Comrades rated and expressed their opinion .... or do you forbid us? Or do you think that I stuck with him the minuses? :)))
            The comrade whom you defend has made false statements and distortions in his statement. And I don’t care what motivated them, whether he deliberately lies and thickens colors to substantiate his false statements, or whether this is due to the flaws in his thinking. How do you hope to seek the truth by such methods?
            I'm not interested in what hu-whether you accelerated, but I would advise you to move in the required direction without slowing down ... well, where were you sent, I suppose, you can guess yourself? :))) So, go, dear and don't turn anywhere ... and you will be there with the "hu-li" you mentioned TRUE .... Goodbye. :))))
        4. Russian
          Russian 3 August 2013 18: 21 New
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          Quote: smile
          Russian
          But didn’t you notice him that hysteria and it wasn’t us who raised Snowden? Why are you blaming her for inflating us?
          What, so you want to cry, everything is bad, everything is lost? What do you think that it is more fun to rebuild the country under the screams "everything is bad with us and it will be even worse"?
          There is such a thing, depression is called ... some unfortunate people can not cope with it without medical intervention ... on the contrary, they enjoy their all-encompassing, picking up wounds on their psyche, driving themselves into depresnyak deeper and deeper .... judging according to your comment, this is about you .... and the woman should have been helped to rise, not to watch her and moan, what are the circle of bad people who are brought to heartlessness by bad Power ....

          Well, judging by the nickname you are always having fun, congratulations! Maybe they didn’t inflate with us, only now in all mass media we just write and talk about it. There was a good topic, about how in all our media the topic of the birth of Princess Middolton was inflated, so now the same thing, don’t you? In my opinion, it says a lot who finances them.
          And about depression, I’m doing fine, and I expressed MY thoughts on this issue, and not how everyone praises Putin, and that we are so cool, what can we be proud of? So stop watching TV, apparently you are a constant forever channel one, your eyes may open, but not a fact. For this, more brains are needed.
          1. smile
            smile 3 August 2013 19: 37 New
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            Russian

            1. Inflated and inflated not with us. In the heat of hysteria, very high-ranking officials of a state hostile to us threaten us with all possible and impossible punishments. They strained all their litters (for example, Lithuania), and this episode, inflated by them, undoubtedly served as a pretext for a long-awaited by some forces (not in our country) a serious deterioration in interstate relations. and will be used in the future ..... and why should ours be silent? Out of tolerance? This is well, you stand up for the slogan, "we e ... t, and we are getting stronger"? It is strange that in such a position you are pretending to be a person who is offended for the state ... do you really not understand the meaning of your statements?

            2. Regarding the fact that our media picked up a hi somewhat inflated to a galactic scale that someone gave birth to someone there, I agree with you ... but ours were only slightly noted. while in the countries of the British Commonwealth, people generally went crazy .... the reason, by the way, is banal -
            A. the loot family earned only direct income of about 300 million pounds.
            B. They have not had any positive events for a long time — and the prospects smell like a clear thing — they are trying to neutralize this business .. to unite society .... and they’re doing it right ... but here you are. unlike smart Western political strategists, you try to act the other way around ... it feels like you are worse off. the better .... would learn from our enemies. how to act .... but this, judging by your words, is a luxury inaccessible to you ... very sorry ...

            3. You, as I understand it, have a criterion-crap on the Power-Well done, not crap, it means watching TV ... :)) you are incomparable ... and should cause compassion-because you get on the same line with the Novodvorskaya out of hostility towards Russia and the Russians, but from .... so to speak, thoughtlessness .... you know, I am a very kind person and can forgive everything ... except for stupidity and brainlessness ... especially militant .... excuse me. Therefore, I don’t feel sorry for you ... you are right-you need brains-how you will find-appeal-talk-talk. and until then, don’t ... talk will not work .... Good luck ...

            By the way, you still haven’t explained why your words are absolutely consonant with the words of the enemy of Russia and the Russian-Novodvorskaya. Why do you have the same arguments and conclusions7 Do you have the same goals?
            I urge you-decide to answer-answer first of all to this question-here I won’t leave you behind-this is a fundamental question .... maybe thinking about it you will understand something? :)))
            1. Russian
              Russian 3 August 2013 20: 48 New
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              Quote: smile
              Russian

              1. Inflated and inflated not with us. In the heat of hysteria, very high-ranking officials of a state hostile to us threaten us with all possible and impossible punishments. They strained all their litters (for example, Lithuania), and this episode, inflated by them, undoubtedly served as a pretext for a long-awaited by some forces (not in our country) a serious deterioration in interstate relations. and will be used in the future ..... and why should ours be silent? Out of tolerance? This is well, you stand up for the slogan, "we e ... t, and we are getting stronger"? It is strange that in such a position you are pretending to be a person who is offended for the state ... do you really not understand the meaning of your statements?

              2. Regarding the fact that our media picked up a hi somewhat inflated to a galactic scale that someone gave birth to someone there, I agree with you ... but ours were only slightly noted. while in the countries of the British Commonwealth, people generally went crazy .... the reason, by the way, is banal -
              A. the loot family earned only direct income of about 300 million pounds.
              B. They have not had any positive events for a long time — and the prospects smell like a clear thing — they are trying to neutralize this business .. to unite society .... and they’re doing it right ... but here you are. unlike smart Western political strategists, you try to act the other way around ... it feels like you are worse off. the better .... would learn from our enemies. how to act .... but this, judging by your words, is a luxury inaccessible to you ... very sorry ...

              3. You, as I understand it, have a criterion-crap on the Power-Well done, not crap, it means watching TV ... :)) you are incomparable ... and should cause compassion-because you get on the same line with the Novodvorskaya out of hostility towards Russia and the Russians, but from .... so to speak, thoughtlessness .... you know, I am a very kind person and can forgive everything ... except for stupidity and brainlessness ... especially militant .... excuse me. Therefore, I don’t feel sorry for you ... you are right-you need brains-how you will find-appeal-talk-talk. and until then, don’t ... talk will not work .... Good luck ...

              By the way, you still haven’t explained why your words are absolutely consonant with the words of the enemy of Russia and the Russian-Novodvorskaya. Why do you have the same arguments and conclusions7 Do you have the same goals?
              I urge you-decide to answer-answer first of all to this question-here I won’t leave you behind-this is a fundamental question .... maybe thinking about it you will understand something? :)))


              Leave your pity, my dear, to yourself, just that you are just ridiculous. I argue, I argue, with people like you, all to no avail. Putin and Co. are only developing the military-industrial complex and internal troops, the first so that the scenario as with Kadaffi does not work, nevertheless they stole so much money, and the second, to stop the unrest of the people.
              Is it possible under normal power, such people as Kvachkov, and Budanov (the kingdom of heaven to him) sit ?! But Kadyrov is in high esteem! Well, what do you say ?? The level of corruption goes off scale simply, child mortality, pedophilia, alcoholism, my nation is being bullied, I doubt my membership in it. And should I sit praising this power? Ass lick her? No, I will provide it to you.
              1. smile
                smile 3 August 2013 21: 42 New
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                ru_s_s_s_k_i_y RU

                1. If you read my comment to which you are responding, would you notice that I informed you that I am not sorry for you, or am I making myself too complicated for you? :)))
                2. I do not understand. WHERE THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION, WHY ARE YOU SAYING ABOUT THE SAME SAME THAN NOVODVORSKAYA, WITH THE SAME Argumentation Why PU-Bad? Where am I asking? Are you like-minded? I repeat, this is a fundamental question!
                3. Do you think that the fact that Putin is making efforts to prevent the destruction of the country as a single state, its independence and its population (with millions of victims, if we extrapolate the scale of deaths in Libya) according to the Libyan scenario is bad? Have you accidentally let it slip? Do you crave the same? I don’t understand, did you even dismiss your brain or admit that you are an open enemy of Russia and the Russian people? Do you think that the attempt to revive the military-industrial complex, which is actively opposed by the bogs and such as you, is taken to the detriment of our country? ..... What, is it not necessary to develop it?

                4. It has become disgusting to talk with you - you are even more unreasonable than it seemed to me .... not answering the questions you have the audacity to ask your own ... while listing problems, most of which now have a steady, though not so fast . as I would like, the dynamics to be corrected ... in other words, lying impudently .... I repeat, this is too much, it became disgusting to talk with you ....

                5. Regarding your passage about licked asses, I can tell you the following:
                I don’t know what and whom you are licking, but I strongly recommend changing your sexual partner; he is obviously abusing drugs ..... pah, damn it, he wanted the Libyan script ... Arctic fox! .... bye.
                1. Russian
                  Russian 3 August 2013 23: 15 New
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                  Quote: smile
                  ru_s_s_s_k_i_y RU

                  1. If you read my comment to which you are responding, would you notice that I informed you that I am not sorry for you, or am I making myself too complicated for you? :)))
                  2. I do not understand. WHERE THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION, WHY ARE YOU SAYING ABOUT THE SAME SAME THAN NOVODVORSKAYA, WITH THE SAME Argumentation Why PU-Bad? Where am I asking? Are you like-minded? I repeat, this is a fundamental question!
                  3. Do you think that the fact that Putin is making efforts to prevent the destruction of the country as a single state, its independence and its population (with millions of victims, if we extrapolate the scale of deaths in Libya) according to the Libyan scenario is bad? Have you accidentally let it slip? Do you crave the same? I don’t understand, did you even dismiss your brain or admit that you are an open enemy of Russia and the Russian people? Do you think that the attempt to revive the military-industrial complex, which is actively opposed by the bogs and such as you, is taken to the detriment of our country? ..... What, is it not necessary to develop it?

                  4. It has become disgusting to talk with you - you are even more unreasonable than it seemed to me .... not answering the questions you have the audacity to ask your own ... while listing problems, most of which now have a steady, though not so fast . as I would like, the dynamics to be corrected ... in other words, lying impudently .... I repeat, this is too much, it became disgusting to talk with you ....

                  5. Regarding your passage about licked asses, I can tell you the following:
                  I don’t know what and whom you are licking, but I strongly recommend changing your sexual partner; he is obviously abusing drugs ..... pah, damn it, he wanted the Libyan script ... Arctic fox! .... bye.


                  Hahah, not bad, not bad, you can’t answer these questions, right?) All for fun, translate, play in public, well done!
                  I’m not interested in Novodvorskaya, and I haven’t seen or heard her speeches, so I don’t know what she’s talking about
                  Why is Putin bad? But the problems that I have listed are not that they are not being solved, but are only progressing, should the president and the government not have to solve these issues? Look at the campaign promises, nothing is fulfilled!
                  Answered now, no? Or do you need more arguments? Maybe a list of factories that closed? And it’s not in the dashing 90s that everyone blames everything, but in the beginning of the XNUMXs, look for it, the article here was recent.
                  It’s disgusting to talk with you too, I don’t like false patriots.
                  1. Russ69
                    Russ69 3 August 2013 23: 43 New
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                    Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
                    Answered now, no? Or do you need more arguments? Maybe a list of factories that closed? And it’s not in the dashing 90s that everyone blames everything, but in the beginning of the XNUMXs, look for it, the article here was recent.

                    The plants were closed legally, although in fact they had not worked for a long time. Personally, all the factories that I had almost gone out of business in the 90s started working at my side. They even completed the workshop, which was frozen even during the USSR.
                    This is me to the fact that you do not need to bring everything together.
                  2. 12345
                    12345 3 August 2013 23: 56 New
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                    Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
                    Why is Putin bad? But the problems that I have listed are not that they are not being solved, but are only progressing, should the president and the government not have to solve these issues? Look at the campaign promises, nothing is fulfilled!



                    A familiar song: "CARAUL !!!" "Polymers are in danger !!" "They passed them through the intestines!"

                    The citizen is so agitated that the suspicion involuntarily arises - is it not through his intestines that the "polymers" have gone down the drain?

                    Or is it a reaction to the fact that he simply did not get it?

                    Chick "McFaul's nest" ...
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                  4. smile
                    smile 4 August 2013 18: 02 New
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                    Russian
                    Yesterday I answered you, but my comment was deleted for rudeness, to be honest, it’s unpleasant for me to talk to you and I don’t want to write you a newly developed answer, all the more so since they answered you reasonably enough ... I repeat, you didn’t explain why your opinion completely and completely coincides with the opinion and argument of the open enemies of Russia and the Russian people ... as they say, look at your like-minded people and understand your price ... you just silently think over your position and compare it with the position of the enemies of our state - do not be lazy , take an interest in weaving all sorts of Kasparov, Novodvorsky, Alekseyevs ..... goodbye.
                2. vyatom
                  vyatom 4 August 2013 15: 53 New
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                  What is the Libyan scenario? You are a smiling clown. Go laugh elsewhere. It doesn't seem very strange why only Putin is interested in keeping the country from falling apart. How did Russia live before Putin and how did it become the greatest state from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean? And the blatant huge theft under Putin, in fact, openly spitting on the whole country and unceremoniously robbing it? Revival of the army and navy? And is it really there or only on the first channel they report. A couple of shny frigates and tugs are essentially everything that is being done for the Navy, for example. New boats have been made, but the mace does not want to fly. They ruined a huge research institute and factories that had previously been engaged in underwater rocket-building in the Urals and gave all the research institute of mechanical engineering, which cannot cope with its task. and all this under the guidance of our valiant "lawyers". Our Baltic fleet is currently the weakest of all the fleets of the Baltic Sea countries. Black Sea is similar.
                  1. Wedmak
                    Wedmak 4 August 2013 17: 12 New
                    +5
                    Minus, for the elementary not knowing the facts and the current situation.
                  2. smile
                    smile 4 August 2013 17: 51 New
                    +1
                    vyatom
                    Comrade. who called himself "Russian" literally writes the following:

                    "Putin and co is developing only the military-industrial complex and the internal troops, the first, so that the scenario as with Kadaffi does not pass, they still stole so much money, and the second, to stop the unrest of the people."

                    "The scenario, as with Gaddafi" is not a Libyan scenario? .. Then what? Which one, I ask? You blatantly lied in the very first phrase. Why? ... What he lied no less blatantly in the following words is understandably ordinary all-wide polymers, a standard set of bog tales ...
                    Yes, they ruined a huge country ... yes, Pu came to the ashes when the country's budget was less than the budget of New York (and no need to yell about oil - the Union fell apart at the same oil price at which, after Putin came to power, we became recovering the country) ... yes, stopping the train rushing downhill is hard ... especially since he made a lot of mistakes ... and who would not have done it?
                    And then some dartanians and some unsmiling clowns like you declare - evil Pu, brazenly restoring the military-industrial complex and preventing "the scenario like with Gaddafi not to go" ... you need to remind how the scenario with Gaddafi went?
                    You support the "Russian" who openly suffers from an impossible repetition with us as with "Gaddafi", you also yearn for the same. what is he?
                    You need to crush these in the bud .... After the forced communication with you, the feeling as if in d ... mo has come ... gone, dull g ....!
                  3. vyatom
                    vyatom 5 August 2013 10: 53 New
                    0
                    You probably don’t know the situation, clown. One Serdyukov is worth it. Therefore, a sad Mr .. but in pink glasses - it's still you. And you yourself went far and for a long time,.
            2. Tverichanka
              Tverichanka 3 August 2013 23: 19 New
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              You probably do not know, but in our country there are still teachers, doctors, officers, pilots, bakers, cashiers, drivers, electricians, wipers, underwater
              iki, welders, tractor drivers, joiners, cleaners, paratroopers, metallurgists .... Who has forgotten? And, yes ... Nobel laureate Zhores Alferov! .... I’m not very upset you?
              1. nov_tech.vrn
                nov_tech.vrn 4 August 2013 07: 48 New
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                I understand your indignation, but is it worth it to spend time on the trollin, his diarrhea will also take him away
        5. Tverichanka
          Tverichanka 3 August 2013 23: 04 New
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          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          For this, more brains are needed.

          They certainly would not hurt you, judging by how famously you accused your opponent of their absence ... Politeness problems?
          1. Russian
            Russian 3 August 2013 23: 08 New
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            I think we don’t need defenders, we’ll figure it out ourselves)
            I wrote that it’s not a fact, I didn’t point it out directly, so do not confuse the concept.
            1. smile
              smile 4 August 2013 04: 04 New
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              Russian
              Comrade ... and comrade ... when will you tell us why your statements are in tune with the statements of Novodvorskaya grandmother, eh? ... Comrade ... and comrade ... when you at least somehow justify at least something of that what do you claim? No, really, well, at least something ...... Comrade, but comrade, you really, if you have no conscience, so have a mind, no one but you confuses nothing ... all the more some "concepts" .... you are like a fly swatter on the table-blow-mud-blow-mud .... and you are still reborn ... no - the survival rate comparable to the survival of the clan of meat muses commands respect .... but not all flies know how to be human .... you are worthy of respect, but you too could not :))))
              1. Russian
                Russian 4 August 2013 18: 47 New
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                Quote: smile
                Russian
                Comrade ... and comrade .... when you let us know why your statements are in tune with those of Novodvorskaya’s grandmother, huh ... Comrade ... and comrade ... will you ever justify at least some of that What do you say? No, really, well, at least something ...... Comrade, but comrade, you really, if you have no conscience, so have a mind - no one confuses you except you ... all the more so, some concepts & concepts ; .... you are like a fly swatter on the table-punch-dirt-punch-dirt .... and you are all reborn ... no - survival comparable to the survival of the clan of meat muses is respected .... but not all flies know how to be people .... you are worthy of respect, but you also could not :))))


                Vladimir, are you all right? Do not call a doctor?) Eco has incurred you) Already spit saliva writing me down in this opposition. But behind your empty beautiful phrases there are no facts, but in fact, like our authorities, they promise a bunch of everything, but in fact nothing! You can’t hang noodles on my ears, enough from the TV when I turn on occasionally)
        6. nycsson
          nycsson 3 August 2013 23: 15 New
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          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          For this, more brains are needed.

          Brains are just not enough! laughing
      2. vyatom
        vyatom 4 August 2013 15: 41 New
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        Thysam then understood what he said, smiling?
        1. smile
          smile 4 August 2013 17: 26 New
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          vyatom
          I am smiling ... :))) And you "curly", why did you hang your nose? :))))
          If there is anything to argue with, please ... or do you have nothing to say? :)))
          1. vyatom
            vyatom 5 August 2013 10: 56 New
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            Yes, I have something to argue. But I'm used to having discussions with people who have their own independent opinions. And not with those whose language is used to lying in the ass power of the supporters.
    2. Arthur 775
      Arthur 775 3 August 2013 14: 46 New
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      What are you zaminusili?
      You correctly told the truth. ++++
      Only it is not fashionable now for "us gray" people to roll a barrel for power.
      And this hysteria with Snowden will soon subside, and all will remain the same, TRUTH.
      But I didn’t see the truth.
      I press MUCH YOUR HAND, RUSSIAN.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 3 August 2013 14: 55 New
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        Quote: Arthur 775
        And this hysteria with Snowden will soon subside

        it will quieten down for the time being, yet another (or maybe not one) American wants to ask for political asylum. An example is contagious, especially since there is a place on earth where American pens do not reach.
        1. svp67
          svp67 3 August 2013 17: 55 New
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          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          An example is contagious, especially since there is a place on earth where American pens do not reach.
          If only the LADIES once again did not distinguish himself with his "liberalism" ...
        2. sergo0000
          sergo0000 3 August 2013 19: 22 New
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          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          it will quieten down for the time being, yet another (or maybe not one) American wants to ask for political asylum.

          Right remark! wink After all, Putin did not persuade him and did not blackmail him into surrendering his own people. And for our people, this is a good indicator of our president’s course so that they don’t talk about him in an Internet wash! And for the whole world there is at least some hope that not the whole world is corrupt and cowardly, when it comes to his own skin and there is still a drop of justice in the world! hi
        3. Arthur 775
          Arthur 775 3 August 2013 23: 42 New
          0
          Exactly, it will be so soon. Especially from gaylands!
        4. brelok
          brelok 4 August 2013 07: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          especially since there is a place on earth where American pens do not reach.

          Apparently there is one place left_Russia! The situation resembles the standard collapse of the empire. The USA will not last long. In real life, for a long time, apparently, they were not. Virtual reality is different from reality. They won’t catch it!
        5. urganov
          urganov 4 August 2013 14: 46 New
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          + good Ahead of the thought.
      2. smile
        smile 3 August 2013 16: 11 New
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        Arthur 775
        You see, sir, it's not fashionable to be narrow-minded ... in principle, over the past quarter of a century, everyone who has at least a drop of brains has already figured out who organizes the universal howl, for what purposes and what the situation leads to when mass psychosis engulfs people -well, for example, when the people climbed to defend Elbon on the barricades in 91 ... they defended .... now those of the downs, the cure of which is impossible to repeat the path of their predecessors ... I'm terribly glad that you and this comrade of yours thinks in unison with such smart and honest people as Alekseev, Novodvorskaya and other Kasparovs with McCains .... are you trying to snatch their "truth"? Will she stay with us? If not, then explain what Allah do you say the same thing?
        I am very glad that the percentage of idiots among our population, although constant, but at least does not increase ... well, I distracted you from moving to where you were sent .... free, you can continue moving ... :)) )
        1. vyatom
          vyatom 6 August 2013 18: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: smile
          Arthur 775
          You see, sir, it's not fashionable to be narrow-minded ... in principle, over the past quarter of a century, everyone who has at least a drop of brains has already figured out who organizes the universal howl, for what purposes and what the situation leads to when mass psychosis engulfs people -well, for example, when the people climbed to defend Elbon on the barricades in 91 ... they defended .... now those of the downs, the cure of which is impossible to repeat the path of their predecessors ... I'm terribly glad that you and this comrade of yours thinks in unison with such smart and honest people as Alekseev, Novodvorskaya and other Kasparovs with McCains .... are you trying to snatch their "truth"? Will she stay with us? If not, then explain what Allah do you say the same thing?
          I am very glad that the percentage of idiots among our population, although constant, but at least does not increase ... well, I distracted you from moving to where you were sent .... free, you can continue moving ... :)) )


          You think one-sidedly. For you there is only black or white. "He who is not with us is against us." In the percentage of dull-witted idiots, it is you who are included. And it's good that he doesn't change. Maybe then the rest will be able to pull the country out of the dull swamp in which it is at the moment.
      3. Bort radist
        Bort radist 4 August 2013 05: 53 New
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        Quote: Arthur 775
        You correctly told the truth. ++++

        It’s interesting about the truth, which each has its own - I don’t want to offend anyone, but it won’t hurt to know.
        The Washington Times: US Central Command "recently purchased a special computer program that the military uses to create many bogus personalities on the Internet," which are then used to "infiltrate groups and, in some cases, spread disinformation."

        The program "allows the operator to control multiple online persons from the same workstation without fear of being exposed by an advanced adversary." Using false IP addresses, the system creates the appearance of the user's presence in a given area of ​​the world, while simultaneously masking his affiliation with the American army, the publication specifies.

        It can be difficult to use the new software under American law, which prohibits subjecting a home audience to psychological operations, as well as the fact that popular social networks are managed by American companies and, therefore, they are subject to many of the rights and guarantees that ordinary US citizens have. Central Command spokesman Commander Bill Speaks assured that the program will only be used on foreign social networks.

        (cited in part)

        Hilary Clinton: US Allocates $ 25 Million in 2011 to Support Bloggers and Internet Activists The Barack Obama administration will support politically active Internet figures in countries where the rights and freedoms of citizens are violated, helping them to technically be one step ahead of the censors. The US State Department will open a microblog Twitter in Russian. The American authorities have repeatedly talked about the importance of social networks, in particular Twitter and Facebook, in organizing protests in Egypt and Tunisia, as a result of which the long-term rulers of these states were forced to leave their posts. Social networks have been actively used to organize anti-government protests in Yemen, Algeria, Jordan and Syria.

        1. Bort radist
          Bort radist 4 August 2013 05: 59 New
          10
          and continued:
          A former activist of the Kasparov OGF told how exactly the Russian "orange" are trying to "control Runet for their own purposes" and engage in brainwashing of Internet inhabitants.

          "Until a certain moment X we do not betray ourselves that we disagree. We just rub ourselves into people's trust. For it is always easier to retrain an already united people than to unite from scratch. I don’t know who was the first to say, maybe me. At the forum of cactus growers, for example, for 2 months we write to everyone "what kind of glue cacti you have", they thank you for us, we give them ki-ki. , and so on and so on. "And they, the electorate, receive information, although they sit on the forum of cactus growers. And not only receive, but also see how" everyone "perceives this information. And who is" everyone "there? Right. - project participants, 3 people - 9 nicknames, or even more. Today, launched and operates in the Russian Internet is not one such project on "formation of public opinion." For each "movement" in real life there is an Internet project. They met me and told me (and there were witnesses with me) that “sponsors were found, and the project was launched on an even larger scale than originally anticipated.” That now even they plan to quit their job and take up only this project, especially since now they will also pay for it "

          A few months later, a "bomb" appeared on the Internet - a leaked presentation of the project, which was adopted in a more expanded form:

          "According to my counterpart, this is a 2007 project, made precisely as a business plan with a view to further funding. The activities of homegrown oppositionists - from Solidarity to TIGER in recent months suspiciously work exactly according to the described scheme. What is remarkable - in 2007- m classmate, this document fell into the hands of what is called "work" - since the authors of the business plan "rolled up" precisely to their structure, counting on long-term financing "

          Read the quoted paragraph. Doesn't it look like anything? Have you met any "disputants" pouring out links to their opposition resources, articles on Kasparov.Ru, EZh, Grani, posts of "opposition network authorities"? Have they tried to convince you of the inevitability of a default, the imminent collapse of the regime, the total illegitimacy of the authorities? Is the answer yes? It means, with a high probability, the talkers argued with you. The project is clearly working - this was clearly seen during the war with Georgia, in the elections in the regions and in Sochi, in the "coverage" of the crisis. People are actively pumping the blogosphere. Just do not rush to extremes - considering all the "dissatisfied" involved in the Orange Internet project. Naturally, there are genuinely dissatisfied people. Also, as there are Internet fighters who hate everyone and everything, who write to blogs on discussion resources via the official Internet instead of work or from their rented apartments between the exhausting payments for their rent and for the credits collected "so that people have technology". But again, do not forget - there are "talkers" and after the allocation of the next tranches by the State Department, the orange network may increase ...
          So what was proposed in the project?
          1. Bort radist
            Bort radist 4 August 2013 06: 02 New
            +4
            "The task of the IIDR project includes all types of agitation, training, persuasion, all forms of promotion and dissemination of opinions. First of all, the IIDR project is intended for such a type of persuasion as discussions - a dialogue in which the discussion leader" from the project side "(consisting of the state of the discussion leader or volunteer) - the talker influences other (other) discussion participants - the opponent.Discussions can be of 2 main types - online (on the Internet) and off-line (individual - in real life, by correspondence, ICQ, telephone and In the first case, the advantages include publicity - even if it was not possible to influence the opponent's point of view, there is a great opportunity to influence the audience or other participants in the discussion, as well as reproducibility - good arguments, examples, etc., up to individual phrases - can be effective are integrated into the Data Store and they will be used by other talkers in the future.Offline-discussions in this sense are "weaker", but they have the advantage of "personal communication" - you , firstly, he is well acquainted with the opponent, you know his system of views, basic ideas, "sore spots, etc." In addition, it is possible to use personal attachments, the fact that the interlocutor knows you "as an honest person", etc. And, finally, this type of discussion can be reproduced to the maximum extent "on the job" (in the family, at work, study, among parents of classmates of a son or neighbors in the country) "
            1. smile
              smile 4 August 2013 17: 22 New
              0
              Bort radist
              Mdya .... painfully familiar situation ... :))) It's time to make fires, sharpen stakes and declare a witch hunt ... :)))
              1. Bort radist
                Bort radist 5 August 2013 13: 34 New
                0
                Quote: smile
                painfully familiar situation ... :)))

                Feed the Troll - do not respect yourself ;-)
    3. vaddag1
      vaddag1 3 August 2013 15: 39 New
      17
      that's not the point. corruption, teacher poverty, etc.- this is all right. the people remained the same not rich, but his country now has its own opinion. the West can’t do anything, and the world sees and shakes it. that’s what makes this people so special.
      I see another no less important point - there are a lot of snowdenes, but they had nowhere to go on this planet. Now the world knows that there is a haven for those who disagree with the United States and now there will be many of them. the reasons for their disagreement, resentment is not important - the enemy of my enemy .......
    4. Nicola
      Nicola 3 August 2013 21: 25 New
      +3
      They gave refuge, good! They saved a person from reprisal. The rest is bad, corruption, fraud are not covered up, cut the budget and impunity. That's what will destroy the country without outside interference. It's a shame for the state.
      1. Dejavu
        Dejavu 5 August 2013 04: 27 New
        +2
        Officials ALWAYS robbed Russia and the Russian land has not been impoverished for all these centuries. It’s impossible to ruin Russia with corruption; we won’t be able to ruin Russia at all. We are Russian. Break through. Our tsar is normal, I don’t know the best yet, and even theoretically I can’t imagine who would take his place. The G20 showed who Mr. Putin is in comparison with the leaders of leading countries. He's just cooler. Any official trembles when 50 grannies stick around him and yell, what a bastard he is. Especially if on camera. Only we ourselves can ruin the country when we are silent and do nothing to the mercy of officials. Passivity is our only enemy.
    5. sergaivenski
      sergaivenski 4 August 2013 05: 03 New
      0
      I agree with you one hundred percent !!! I subscribe to your every word !!! But still, damn it, it's nice when Americans do "goat face" !!!
      such is the answer !!!
    6. vyatom
      vyatom 4 August 2013 15: 40 New
      +1
      Who is the minus? All is correct. We will not forget about problems at home either. And then Putin is a small victorious war on the spy front trying to distract us from a huge number of problems he and generated
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 4 August 2013 17: 14 New
        +3
        I am minus one. Nobody forgets about the problems, they exist and they are solved. Although not as fast as we would like.
    7. eplewke
      eplewke 5 August 2013 09: 07 New
      0
      So you can associate any success with any misfortune. For example, they won the Second World War and Hitler, and in the country it’s a hundred gulags, etc. But one must be able to rejoice for one’s country. Moreover, there are not so many such small geopolitical traps in our country. And in general, any situation, how can I give a shit to the West! And NIK does not justify you ... You dishonor him!
  2. Skipper
    Skipper 3 August 2013 20: 45 New
    23
    There is still related news on the topic, for me, anyway
    "The Cossacks in Anapa tried to strangle the bassist of the Bloodhoug Gang"
    vz.ru/news/2013/8/3/644082.html

    A trifle, but nice. People stood up for our flag good
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 3 August 2013 21: 24 New
      16
      Quote: Skipper
      There is still related news on the topic, for me, anyway
      "The Cossacks in Anapa tried to strangle the bassist of the Bloodhoug Gang"
      vz.ru/news/2013/8/3/644082.html

      A trifle, but nice. People stood up for our flag



      it was necessary to flog them in crowded,filming and posting on the World Wide Web

      The Kuban Cossacks in front of the video camera terribly avenged American punks for scolding the Russian flag.
      1. poquello
        poquello 3 August 2013 22: 07 New
        11
        Well done, Kuban men, thanks to them, were counted for the honor of scolding.

        "The musicians of the American rock band Bloodhound Gang, who vacated their rooms in one of the Kuban hotels on Saturday, were booed and pelted with tomatoes and rotten eggs when leaving the hotel's back door, said the governor of the Krasnodar Territory, Alexander Tkachev."
        1. sergaivenski
          sergaivenski 4 August 2013 05: 09 New
          +3
          My mother still remembers: when N.S. Khrushchev, being the USSR driver (s), came to Sverdlovsk, the Urals personally threw him with a rotten herring !!! And here
          they threw tomatoes only the car of these cattle !!!
      2. xoma58
        xoma58 5 August 2013 11: 21 New
        0
        In my opinion, they stamped the flag in vain. What does the country have to do with it? If a scumbag, without a clan and tribe, tramples our flag, it must be punished, and they did a little, having driven these idiots out of the country. And this goblin sneeze deeply and his country and the flag of his country.
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  3. Indigo
    Indigo 4 August 2013 19: 08 New
    +1
    I remembered the Sabbath on the fact of the escape of Stalin's daughter - Aliluyeva - the USSR held a blow with dignity, without panic and hysteria ...
  4. valerei
    valerei 5 August 2013 12: 47 New
    0
    Corsair, Good picture, only after the second letter "t" you need to put "b". Sorry for the banality, but illiteracy has already "got it"
  5. Apologet.Ru
    Apologet.Ru 5 August 2013 13: 12 New
    0
    hi
    Yes, it’s not a slap in the face ...
    And a movie on the topic -

    lol
  • alex13-61
    alex13-61 3 August 2013 15: 26 New
    12
    Quote: 11 black
    compared to Yeltsin, progress is evident

    GDP - well done. I would have refused to pay in dollars ... and presented debt obligations ...
    And the Germans liked the position.
    1. Nicola
      Nicola 3 August 2013 21: 37 New
      -7
      I think he is weak.
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 3 August 2013 23: 48 New
        +3
        Quote: Nicola
        I think he is weak.

        Such things are not done scandal. They have already decided to invest half of the reserves in the economy. There is a time for everything ... it is too early to judge this.
  • avdkrd
    avdkrd 3 August 2013 22: 35 New
    +9
    A significant progress would be the deployment of an information and propaganda program on the transfer to Russia of all its citizens detained on the territory of third countries on charges of the SPS. A counterbalance in response to the failure to release Bout and other Russian citizens who are responsible under the laws of the SPS, while under international laws that do not fall under its jurisdiction, could be the threat of detention and conviction of SPS citizens, including on the territory of third countries. Better, of course, not a threat, but a real detention and conviction for terms - beyond good and evil (from 20 to life). A lot of people could fall under accusations such as intent in causing harm to Russian statehood, or intent to displace state power (for example, McFaul can be presented, coupled with the actions and funding of anti-government organizations). At the same time, in the best traditions of the United States, the secrecy of the investigation and non-disclosure of information about the sources of information should be observed. It is definitely possible, without looking back at the United States, to tear apart all the obvious compradors and just bastards like Alekseeva and, by analogy, declare everyone who made statements similar to the stupid journalist "enemies of Russia's security."
    While chewing snot on the face and with an arrangement (as for children) justification of each step and decision. The reaction of the Capitol, of course, exceeded all expectations and amused me a lot, but still a counterclaim is better than an excuse in the spirit - "for what they scold me, I'm good and I do everything according to the law."
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 3 August 2013 23: 28 New
      -3
      Quote: avdkrd
      While on the face chewing snot and with the arrangement (

      There were five of them, and we were twenty-five. They fought and fought until we caught up. We would have given them if they had caught up with us ............ Are you not their storytellers?
      1. smile
        smile 4 August 2013 04: 25 New
        0
        Tverichanka
        Ma'am, what is the guy wrong about? In this particular situation, comrades from the United States quite specifically yelled that they would take us away before we, sorry, looked at the subject of seduction .... we simply had no choice .. this is alarming ... I think that Snowden - not their operation - the image losses of the United States are too great, but you should not expect that they do not even use their failure in order to let us have a nose out of us ... we all realize that this is a strong, smart and tenacious enemy , even though we bay that they are all stupid there ... :)))
      2. avdkrd
        avdkrd 4 August 2013 13: 49 New
        +4
        Quote: Tverichanka
        You are not their storytellers?

        Lady, "black rhetoric" on your face. What does your questionable poetry have to do with the topic of my post? I would like to understand what logical chain led you to such an analogy and question?
        On my own behalf, I will explain that my post was a development of the topic - how much one should rejoice at this resolution of the situation with Snowden. I expressed my vision of the actions of the Foreign Ministry and Russia as a whole, which, in my opinion, should have rejoiced and regretted that the political success in this round was somewhat blurred by the fact that for more than a month Russia, through all information and diplomatic channels, JUSTIFIED FOR what it has not done yet , which he called "chewing snot".
        1. smile
          smile 4 August 2013 17: 08 New
          -2
          avdkrd
          Without going into the details of your dispute with Tverichanka, please do not use derogatory words like "lady" in relation to her ... please do not forget that she is a woman ... and worthy ... in some places we should take an example from her ...well? Well, sneer-sneer in response ...
    2. sergaivenski
      sergaivenski 4 August 2013 05: 30 New
      +3
      There is no need to make excuses to anyone at all !!! The Americans (I know from history) after the end of the Great Patriotic War nurtured the "Marshall Plan" to create the "United States of Europe." Even then, this country, apparently deciding that it is the navel
      The Earth, the center of the immense Universe, declared to the entire population of Mother Earth: "We have nuclear weapons !!! And if you rock the boat, we will erase you!"
      in the courtyard of the 21st century, many countries have nuclear weapons, you see, Americans are very disappointed !!! So what ??? Actually, Edward Snowden did not discover America again
      their revelations. Even under Ronald Reagan, newspapers received information that the United States was watching its allies !!! There was a terrible scandal. Then the United States got out, got out !!!
  • StolzSS
    StolzSS 3 August 2013 22: 55 New
    +2
    And what did you expect from a scumbag from Zindan ??? Only in the states a scumbag from a cesspool can become a senator ...
  • knn54
    knn54 3 August 2013 12: 41 New
    20
    -Return_SSSR: Call a slap in the face is not a desire to lick the American ass?
    That's right, because the disclosure of US state secrets is not a crime under the Russian Criminal Code. In Soviet times, an order was given for this.
    When Snowden (if there is a reason) ARE AWARDED with the Russian Order, then the Yankees will REALLY SLAVE!
  • _Forgiven_
    _Forgiven_ 3 August 2013 13: 32 New
    +4
    The fact that Volodya gave the guy shelter is good. I can’t even imagine how the cat’s soul was deceived by American politicians when this news came through the media. One interesting point remains: as if this Snowden were not a pig in a poke, sent specially by the CIA with such noise, supposedly he was a defector. I think this brother should be kept under supervision. This of course is my personal opinion, maybe someone does not agree :)
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 3 August 2013 23: 32 New
      0
      Quote: _Forgiven_
      opinion, maybe someone does not agree :)

      There are those who disagree. To dispel your doubts, look at what the Germans did. This is where the dog rummaged. And this is far from the end of the story. Stock up on popcorn.
    2. alicante11
      alicante11 4 August 2013 12: 08 New
      0
      What's the point? I've also twisted this option, and so on. Moreover, Wikilix is ​​involved here. But I do not see profits for amers.
  • Alan
    Alan 3 August 2013 15: 04 New
    +9
    I agree with you, a slap in the face is what the American U-b-l-y-d did ...... from some kind of band in the lodhound Gang with our flag. am And with Snowden, everything is logical.
  • svp67
    svp67 3 August 2013 15: 06 New
    +6
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    Call slap not a desire to lick the American ass?

    This is not a slap in the face - this is a logical response to all those actions and decisions that the US administration took against Russia and its citizens ...
  • Oleg14774
    Oleg14774 3 August 2013 18: 33 New
    +7
    The American government itself dermis ... doused, we acted simply democratically.
  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 4 August 2013 05: 12 New
    +3
    ha! slap in the face .... we can also in the face ... angry
  • Siberian German
    Siberian German 4 August 2013 05: 29 New
    +2
    I agree - the dog barks the caravan goes
  • brelok
    brelok 4 August 2013 07: 40 New
    +1
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    Call slap not a desire to lick the American ass?
    I think you shouldn't be so humiliated and called a "slap in the face" the usual refusal of unacceptable and outrageous behavior, to which our American "friends" tried to force us.

    But it seems to me that something has changed in the world! and for the better. US sunset is already visible!
  • gud123
    gud123 4 August 2013 21: 33 New
    0
    The United States does not want to understand that Russia, the country on which all American integrations and "perestroika" fell, WAS RESISTED !!! Be so kind as "colleagues" not to poke your nose into the hornet nest !!!!!
  • Alez
    Alez 5 August 2013 08: 24 New
    0
    More correctly, not a slap in the face, but a Mighty Magic Pendal by the Russian Kirz Boot on a flabby American ass.
  • Apologet.Ru
    Apologet.Ru 5 August 2013 13: 16 New
    0
    hi
    It’s not a slap in the face ...

    repeat
  • Tony tomahawk
    Tony tomahawk 3 August 2013 10: 07 New
    17
    Gorgeous, just gorgeous!
    As the saying goes, the more "bombs" in the West, the more correctly the Russian government behaves.
    He laughed at McCain's statement: "A slap in the face for all Americans" ... That is, the fact that the personal life and correspondence of Americans (and not only theirs) was undemocratic, violated all rights, and was readable - what can you call it? I call it the Right Skull Pinwheel.
    1. Aryan
      Aryan 3 August 2013 14: 03 New
      -21 qualifying.
      Well, what are you having fun, dear Russians?
      now you have one guest worker more ... bully
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 3 August 2013 14: 51 New
        18
        Quote: Aryan
        Well, why are you having fun, dear Russians? now you have one guest worker more ..

        Such guest workers are a godsend. This is a tricky plan. wink , we are in the states of Moldovan migrant workers staying in Russia wassat they reverse the CIA workers bully
      2. Hleb
        Hleb 3 August 2013 16: 09 New
        +6
        excellent performance!
      3. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 3 August 2013 23: 35 New
        +6
        Quote: Aryan
        Now you have one guest worker more.

        One more, one less, what’s the difference? But they aired amers. You may not care, but I’m pleased.
      4. fedorovith
        fedorovith 4 August 2013 23: 31 New
        0
        More would be like that.
  • Very old
    Very old 3 August 2013 10: 10 New
    11
    There are still many doors in the White House - each time 3 times you slip around, immediately feel better. Well, what are your manners? Then chew ties, then kick doors? Tip: bite your elbows!
  • rexby63
    rexby63 3 August 2013 10: 11 New
    +6
    Gavrila Snowden or Edward Principle? God forbid, of course. Yes, and the gentlemen who are opposed to the incumbent president have a question - you do not find that this does not entirely correspond to your considerations (which in a strange way resonate with the statements of American senators). Your arguments?
    1. DmitriRazumov
      DmitriRazumov 3 August 2013 10: 29 New
      14
      Quote: rexby63
      Gavrila Snowden or Edward Principle?

      Not quite asking for parallels. There in 1914, the situation in Europe had long been prepared for a great war, and, above all, by our sworn allies (England and France). The banking capital of these countries resisted not for life, but for death, to the industrial capital of the rapidly developing German empire. Russia - the arena of the struggle for hegemony in Europe, was drawn into this massacre, guided by no means its own interests and the cowardice of the then political elite (Nick 2, above all).
      With Snowden - an elementary upsizing of American politicians. For a long time they did not receive such, in general, normal answers on m / n practice from an independent state. Accustomed to that all over the world they elementarily lick ass. In general, gentlemen must be weaned ...
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 3 August 2013 11: 12 New
        27
        Quote: DmitriRazumov
        Not quite asking for parallels.


        If we talk about parallels. it should be borne in mind that at the turn of the century the contradictions of capitalism intensified and he entered a new phase of his development — imperialism, the process of formation of which was accompanied by a global redistribution among empires of markets, resources and capital. Those who studied in Soviet schools and universities should remember the works of ML classics on this issue. It is enough to recall the article by V.I. Lenin
        Imperialism, as the highest stage of capitalism.
        And now again, at the turn of the century, we see with our own eyes how a new stage of capitalism is being formed - globalism (of which Lenin had no idea because he considered imperialism to be the last stage of decaying capitalism after which there will be a world revolution and the transition to socialism and further to communism). The merging of multinationals and supranational banking capital in our time has taken unprecedented proportions and therefore globalism needs steel jaws in order to keep everyone who goes against the created new world order. The games of bourgeois democracy and freedom are long over, the masks of the good clowns are ripped off and under them the same bestial grin of ministers golden devil like a hundred years ago. Snowden, Assange, Manning is already a trend. As they say to be continued
        1. valokordin
          valokordin 3 August 2013 13: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: Ascetic
          then studied in Soviet schools and universities should remember the works of the classics of ML on this issue. It is enough to recall the article by V.I. Lenin
          Imperialism, as the highest stage of capitalism.

          We see when the remnants of the USSR, including Russia, frantically clinging to the handrails of the last carriage of a bourgeois train flying into the abyss of the World War, try to stay there and hope that its carriage does not fall into the abyss. Our shit and criminal authorities, hanging noodles on the ears of ordinary poor citizens, are trying to keep their power. You listen to the president, spectacularly from the sky, like a magician who went down to the lake on the Be-200, who called himself comrade president, you’ll think of a guardian for the people, but if you touch on real affairs, you see, this is the defender of the oligarchs. And providing shelter to Snowden is such a trifle, inflated to a gigantic size of a soap bubble. Well, thank God, too.
          1. vostok68
            vostok68 3 August 2013 16: 03 New
            +7
            By the way, the Be-200 is very beautiful (at least) and a functional example of Russian engineering and industry! The idea to fly to the Be-200 was a good one!
          2. alicante11
            alicante11 4 August 2013 12: 12 New
            +1
            This little thing is not so inflated by us. Ours generally disown. Like "we can't legally", but we don't need it at all, and in general we will even give shelter, so long as it doesn't bother you :).
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 3 August 2013 14: 57 New
          +9
          Oh, by the way Assange probably already bites his elbows, that he didn’t rush to Russia, but to England laughing
          1. vaddag1
            vaddag1 3 August 2013 17: 55 New
            +3
            et for sure, but he is a state trader. secrets-commerce, do not care for him. but it’s a pity for the boy in uniform .... you have to knock someone down and exchange
          2. Shumka
            Shumka 3 August 2013 22: 18 New
            +2
            Maybe now she’ll try, the main thing is to get to our embassy.
        3. sergo0000
          sergo0000 3 August 2013 23: 05 New
          +4
          Yes, Stanislav! This dem, definitely fits your post. smile
        4. rexby63
          rexby63 11 August 2013 22: 48 New
          0
          And so, your opinion?
  • Hleb
    Hleb 3 August 2013 10: 16 New
    14
    "If he wants to stay here, there is one condition: he must stop his work aimed at harming our American partners ... Russia never betrays anyone anywhere, and is not going to extradite anyone. And no one has ever betrayed anyone to us."
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 3 August 2013 12: 01 New
      14
      Quote: Gleb
      there is one condition: he must stop his work aimed at harming our American partners ..

      Well, he will tell everything that he knows and stop .... laughing
      1. vaddag1
        vaddag1 3 August 2013 18: 03 New
        +1
        I do not agree. when the stories are over, he will have to create a youth movement and conduct useful propaganda ... like Paulus
    2. fedorovith
      fedorovith 3 August 2013 12: 07 New
      +7
      for a photo "Edik, don't worry, everything is OK".
    3. svp67
      svp67 3 August 2013 16: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: Gleb
      Russia never gives anyone anywhere

      .... From Don there is NO issuance ...
      1. Shumka
        Shumka 3 August 2013 22: 21 New
        +4
        Russia is a snowy country, and the guy has a snowy surname,)))))
  • fedorovith
    fedorovith 3 August 2013 10: 18 New
    10
    They are simply suffocating from their powerlessness in this matter, well, they’ll only make speeches like McCain (barking the dogs on the chain, let the tail catch the chain) Let him come to Sheremetyevo as well.
  • Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 3 August 2013 10: 23 New
    24
    I think the optimal solution for Snowden was chosen.

    For once, Russia can’t show anything. Even if European liberals are happy - the triumph of democracy, you panim! (with)

    I will explain. It doesn’t matter who is Mr Snowden - whether a Cossack, a cunning provocateur, our agent, their spy ...

    Russia acted strictly according to the law, without rattling and screaming. But America ...

    If the United States boycotts the summits in Russia, the Olympics, any other events, everyone will laugh at them.

    And most interestingly, the rulers of the United States will not be able to so easily fool the population. Ordinary American citizens are most afraid of Big Brother that someone is constantly peeping through the keyhole, especially when they are in the bedroom)))

    In general, the US rulers were offended. Well, let. Offended - ... bt)))
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 3 August 2013 12: 52 New
      11
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      . Well, let. Offended - ... bt)))

      I heard that they take water to the offended, but so that they also have it - Original. good
  • Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 3 August 2013 10: 23 New
    +1
    As they write in Inosmi, Snowden was offered a job:“On the same day Russia provided Edward Snowden, a former NSA contractor now fleeing the United States, with temporary asylum and documents allowing him to leave Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport, he also received a job offer. Pavel Durov, a 28-year-old creator and the CEO of VKontakte, Russia's most popular social networking site, offered Snowden a job at his company. "

    Read more: http: //www.inosmi.ru/russia/20130803/211550936.html
    1. Mart
      3 August 2013 10: 59 New
      12
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      How do they write in Inosmi, Snowden was offered a job


      The article actually wrote about it. smile
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 3 August 2013 11: 22 New
        +7
        Quote: Mart
        The article actually wrote about it.


        Guest worker Snowden during the Moscow riot police sweep the Gorbushka market in 2014. laughing
        For those who do not have a sense of humor, I will explain. "Gorbushka" in the 90s, a popular market for pirated programs and databases of various government agencies up to the agents of the CIA and the FSB bully
        Here riot police and detains seller Snowden crying
        1. Shumka
          Shumka 3 August 2013 22: 25 New
          0
          From this demotivator with a sweetheart bears. It is not necessary to distribute it, all sorts of hamsters will attach a photo-toad to the pennant in the pope)) soldier
  • SmacXnumx
    SmacXnumx 3 August 2013 10: 26 New
    +6
    Welcome to Russia, comrade! I warmly support !!!!! drinks
  • JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 3 August 2013 10: 32 New
    10
    Hmm. Is it expected to gather for permanent residence in the Russian Federation of all disadvantaged "democratic" world?
    Well then: Welcome!
    1. Che
      Che 3 August 2013 13: 22 New
      +4
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      Hmm. Is it expected to gather for permanent residence in the Russian Federation of all disadvantaged "democratic" world?
      Well then: Welcome!


      Remarkably, even the Jews began to return. Understood where the truth is.
      1. valokordin
        valokordin 3 August 2013 14: 02 New
        +9
        Quote: Che
        Remarkably, even the Jews began to return. Understood where the truth is.

        They always understood where the truth cannot be profitable and where it is possible to profit. In Russia, you can cook as much as you can’t.
        1. azilan
          azilan 3 August 2013 17: 38 New
          +4
          That's for sure! My cousin scolds Russia, lives the same. His mother (my aunt) lives in Israel, does not go to live with her! X ..... do you hate there, doing business here.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 3 August 2013 14: 58 New
        +7
        Quote: Che
        Remarkably, even the Jews began to return.

        Do you think this is good?
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 3 August 2013 17: 02 New
          +6
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          it's good?

          For the Jews yes wassat Hi hi
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 3 August 2013 18: 30 New
            +3
            Quote: Ruslan67
            For the Jews yes

            The opinion of the Russians is not taken into account laughing Hi Ruslan
        2. svp67
          svp67 3 August 2013 17: 51 New
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Do you think this is good?
          Of course, this is also an indicator ...
        3. Ascetic
          Ascetic 4 August 2013 10: 52 New
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Do you think this is good?


          People are returning who prefer to be Jews in Russia than Russians in Israel. According to Rabbi Zinovy ​​Kogan, during the ceremonial opening of the Jewish Center for Tolerance in Moscow over the past 5 years, there were more than 60000 people. The same Kogan believes that in Russia there is no state anti-Semitism; it exists only at the household level.
          “He is at the household level and is associated with the social stratification of society,” said Zinovy ​​Kogan.
          «Jews are not rich people what and they look with astonishment and horror at the individual rich Jews. belay Poets, artists, artists, scientists are much more happy, they are proud of them, ”says Rabbi Kogan. In his opinion, if anything could provoke anti-Semitism, then this is precisely the wealth of individual Jews. At the same time, the rabbi notes that “now they are no longer oligarchs, completely apolitical and concerned only with the preservation of what was acquired No. »


          Just talking about Russian domestic anti-Semitism, Kogan is silent about Israeli everyday Russophobia. It is for economic reasons that most of course return, but I also know that many are tired of, say, the arrogant attitude of Aboriginal people towards those who were only “Jewish” in Russia and immediately became “Russian” in the Jewish state.
  • Orty
    Orty 3 August 2013 10: 32 New
    32
    I was always amused and, at the same time, enraged that any action contrary to the interests of the United States is regarded there as a kind of slap, a challenge or an insult. They are like an infantile teenager in a family of very rich parents, they are so unaccustomed to hearing the word no, that they react to it just as infantile and capricious. Moreover, they got used to this state very quickly since 1991, just over 20 years have passed, understand the Yankees the freebie is over, you are not special and not the messiah, and you got everyone with your impudent, boorish arrogance! You had 20 years to establish yourself as a hegemon and make the world a better and safer place, but apart from the theory of controlled chaos, you turned out to be incapable of anything. So go to w ***
    1. Dejavu
      Dejavu 5 August 2013 04: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Orty
      like a slap in the face


      It’s more likely Zaschina laughing
  • Apollo
    Apollo 3 August 2013 10: 33 New
    13
    video footage in the topic


    1. Tersky
      Tersky 3 August 2013 18: 37 New
      +4
      Apollo, hi ! And in pursuit of:
  • Fin
    Fin 3 August 2013 10: 35 New
    +9
    It would be much worse if we decided to give it away. The same Yankees then squealed that the Russian Federation illegally extradited a person who was facing death, etc. The Russian Federation has acted in accordance with applicable domestic legislation and external agreements.
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 3 August 2013 11: 48 New
      14
      We couldn’t give it out under any circumstances, if the United States didn’t make a fuss and started to put pressure on Moscow out of habit, they could still pass it on to them quietly, and so they put the GDP before the choice, to show themselves to be a person who obeys Washington, or vice versa show its independence from the United States, naturally he chose the second option.

      This is their next mistake, it doesn’t fit in their heads that someone can do something without their permission.
    2. fedorovith
      fedorovith 3 August 2013 12: 17 New
      +4
      If we gave him away, it would be worse for Putin and his team. The young people that furnished everything so that the mosquito’s nose wouldn’t tarnish. They supported various organizations for the protection of human rights, these organizations supported Edick in the first place. And there’s nothing to spoil the air , the days of the traitors of the drunks of the liberals have passed.
  • shpuntik
    shpuntik 3 August 2013 10: 36 New
    +7
    Good start: Bradley Manning, now Snowden. More people like that, and then there will be a revolution in Sha. Obama will be deprived of the Peace Prize (Nobel Prize 2009), and McCain will be jailed instead of Manning. This notorious "empire of good" should fall apart for the joy of the whole world.
  • serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 3 August 2013 10: 40 New
    +9
    A stupid situation that many countries have found themselves in thanks to the stupid actions of the United States. Obama is really bad at controlling the actions of his subordinates. Russia does not need Snowden, but since such an "initiator" has happened, then it is necessary to use him. For the image of Russia, Snowden is an absolute plus; ordinary people in the West treat him positively on the whole. And the European leadership also understands everything correctly. I do not think that the US leadership will take any serious measures in relation to Russia - our relations are now already reduced to the most inevitable minimum. And they are unlikely to want to fall into the category of "stranglers of freedom."
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 3 August 2013 12: 06 New
      +6
      Quote: serge-68-68
      Russia does not need Snowden,

      Well, don’t tell me ... a native speaker is a teacher at the Institute of Military Translators (and not only translators), and in any other foreign language - gold !!!! (These are at least job options laughing )
      1. serge-68-68
        serge-68-68 3 August 2013 17: 19 New
        +3
        Now there are no problems with native speakers of culture and. Including for the needs of special services.
      2. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 3 August 2013 23: 46 New
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        at the institute of military translators (and not only translators), and in any other foreign language - gold !!!! (These are at least job options

        And what is important, the programmer is not one of the last. Had access to the NSA to a lot of programs ... In short, "passwords, attendance" can light up ...
  • biglow
    biglow 3 August 2013 10: 40 New
    +9
    The most interesting thing is that no one has seen Snowden in Sheremetyevo itself. One photograph of them standing near a car with their backs to the camera. He just arrived and got out of the car to pick up the documents. Our special services are working well, journalists are back in flight good
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 3 August 2013 11: 20 New
      +4
      Quote: biglow
      Our special services work well

      That's why they are specialists ...
    2. Adorofeev63
      Adorofeev63 6 August 2013 16: 48 New
      0
      So they made a photo of the special services themselves, to show that he was alive and healthy. wink
  • APASUS
    APASUS 3 August 2013 10: 44 New
    +7
    Such a chance to see how the Obama administration begins to do stupid things in the international arena (either they land a plane, then they threaten it in the open) is not often found.
    Now the United States resembles a sick lion - and the teeth remained, and there is nothing to bite!
    That poor fellow rushing around!
    Although the outcome was predictable. Who else but Russia can provide him with security?
  • Russ69
    Russ69 3 August 2013 10: 45 New
    11
    Well, what about the American regional committee seems to have done it completely. This rarely happens, but damn how nice. smile
  • Grenz
    Grenz 3 August 2013 10: 45 New
    48
    McCain: "Slap in the face for all Americans!"
    Get used to the gentlemen! On the ass will be hurt!
    And if they put cancer as well - you’ve already become bluer than blue ones, how many will die from you - maybe you will enjoy it. So, gentlemen, get used to it!
    PS
    But it’s time for Kucherene to shut up, and then the opinion is he really the main character.
    1. Denis
      Denis 3 August 2013 10: 52 New
      +8
      The caricature is super, HA HA!
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 3 August 2013 11: 26 New
      +6
      Plus for the picture! Evil of course, but the troll is notable.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 3 August 2013 12: 09 New
        13
        Quote: Wedmak
        Plus for the picture! Evil of course, but the troll is notable.


        You will laugh but this is really a case in life !!! One guide said so in order to impress foreign tourists.
    3. Che
      Che 3 August 2013 13: 28 New
      +5
      + + + wassat Well respected, laughed plenty.
    4. valokordin
      valokordin 3 August 2013 14: 10 New
      +5
      Quote: grenz
      But it’s time for Kucherene to shut up, and then the opinion is he really the main character.

      Well, this is the most unpleasant person, a swallowed hog, how he gently took his wife, who killed Rokhlin from court, by the waist. Well, a real "protector" of the orphaned and disadvantaged.
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 3 August 2013 23: 49 New
        +4
        Quote: valokordin
        the wife who killed Rokhlin

        Do you still believe in this nonsense? I beg you ...
  • crossbow
    crossbow 3 August 2013 10: 46 New
    +7
    Do you see Snowden, but did the US give us at least one of our "special" fugitives?
  • ed65b
    ed65b 3 August 2013 10: 52 New
    14
    I’m interested in how Kucherena turned out to be Snowden’s registered lawyer, is he not afraid to find himself on the Magnitsky’s list where he’ll be included in it, or was he simply asked for it correctly? but Padva and Reznik seem scared. And, we still have Borschevsky, who is also an amateur, where he doesn’t get caught.
    1. smile
      smile 3 August 2013 13: 42 New
      +8
      ed65b
      Yes, it seems to me that they had a fight there for such a free PR ... Kucherena already had a face to shine with happiness ... I already got my idiotic statements about what gifts he gave to Snowden, but how he tries for the sake of Snowden ... that's not knew that he was capable of bearing such nonsense .... all the necessary papers for Snowden were made by an average lawyer in an hour. then a couple of visits to the relevant services and that’s all .... there’s nothing for the lawyer in THIS situation ... nothing at all .. especially since the decision was made at the level of the president ..... and this clown has already slammed the screen with his fat ass ...
      And Kucherenovsky rivals do not go on the air either from the fact that the bruises on the face have not come down or are afraid. that they will not be able to hide the fierce envy ... :)))))
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 4 August 2013 01: 23 New
        +2
        Well, if you compare the composition of Kucherena and the rest of the gop company, then there is no talk he has Mike Tyson. angry
        1. smile
          smile 4 August 2013 04: 33 New
          +1
          ed65b
          Well, Duc, and I could fasten another belt in the form of Snowden ... weight category is one .... not measured in kg ...... but a noble hog .... it would be interesting to listen to his screech , if you kick him in the ass .... well, kick so that he realizes there is no one to protect him ..... :)))))
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 3 August 2013 10: 53 New
    +4
    ay-ay-ay. Amerovskoy "girl" offended, candy was not given. remembered-
    girl in the sandbox. a man passing by: -girl, do you want to mess?
    -want
    - Nnaka! -gives a man a girl a pinch
  • DEMENTIY
    DEMENTIY 3 August 2013 10: 54 New
    +6
    As for Obama, he didn’t even have words in response to the decision of Moscow on Snowden.


    It is not surprising that it is very difficult to find appropriate expressions against Russia, which in fact protects the rights of the Americans themselves! what
    1. Denis
      Denis 3 August 2013 10: 58 New
      +5
      Quote: DEMENTIY
      As for Obama, he didn’t even have words in response to the decision of Moscow on Snowden.

      It is not surprising that it is very difficult to find appropriate expressions against Russia, which in fact protects the rights of the Americans themselves!

      Obama simply does not know how to swear in Russian, we always have a couple of suitable words wink
  • Sobol
    Sobol 3 August 2013 11: 03 New
    13
    "They slapped them in the face ..." The Americans seem to have confused us with the geyrope - it is their Euro-fagots who operate with slaps in the face, and in Russia the Fist always flew in the face.
  • Anti
    Anti 3 August 2013 11: 04 New
    +5
    it seems like the roof of many began to leak laughing

    Chris Beck, a Special Forces soldier from an elite Navy SEAL unit, had a secret - from early childhood he felt like a woman in a man's body.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/society/2013/08/130801_navy_seal_transgender.shtml
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 3 August 2013 12: 29 New
      +3
      Quote: Anti
      Chris Beck, a Special Forces soldier from an elite Navy SEAL unit, had a secret - from early childhood he felt like a woman in a man's body.

      But what a beauty - a nail broke - and can no longer shoot laughing
      1. Anti
        Anti 3 August 2013 13: 04 New
        +4
        Yeah, Tokma flowers can shoot back. Like, die practical .. lol
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 3 August 2013 15: 03 New
          +8
          Quote: Anti
          Yeah, Tokma flowers can shoot back. type-die praative

          For the United States, this is relevant.
          The number of violent crimes of a sexual nature in the US Army is growing steadily. In 2011 - 22800, in 2012 - 26000. Think about it, 26 thousand are 70 rapes a day! But most importantly, among the victims 56% are ... men! wassat
          http://warfiles.ru/new/
          1. smile
            smile 3 August 2013 16: 57 New
            +5
            Alexander Romanov
            A nightmare! .... Soon, the American marines will be forced to be in the barracks. apply camouflage makeup on your face so as not to attract the attention of potential rapists with cute faces ....:))) ... no, nevertheless homosexuals will destroy them ... :)))) but it’s not so long ago, 10- years 15 American generals complained that women warriors got them with their lawsuits over harassment .... unhappy, they did not know that buggers were already being selected for the US army ... :)))
            1. Landwarrior
              Landwarrior 3 August 2013 18: 40 New
              +5
              Quote: smile
              unfortunate, they did not know that buggers were already being selected for the US Army ... :)))

              They just sneaked up behind, and the Yankees were sure that they had a strong rear laughing
  • Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 3 August 2013 11: 04 New
    +5
    Probably Snowden knows some other secrets, since we still decided to shelter him, and even if he doesn't know not to give him up to "be torn apart by enemies."
    So, ladies and gentlemen from the CIA and NSA, men's piers at your collar, not Snowden laughing
  • shark
    shark 3 August 2013 11: 09 New
    12
    No, but what did they want in principle? How many times has a British court refused to extradite Berezevsky? Borodin? Doku Umarov? How many more bandits of the Chechen war are quietly walking around the European capitals? There is a Russian proverb, "as it goes around, it will answer" Learn the classics of the Yanko-Evropeytsy. For soon Russian proverbs will become classics throughout the world!
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 3 August 2013 11: 29 New
      0
      Well, you don’t confuse Europe with Great Britain and the USA. They are of course the same field of berries, but their color is very different.
  • Wedmak
    Wedmak 3 August 2013 11: 11 New
    +9
    These people .... do they hear themselves? No, let me make fun ...
    White House spokesman Jay Carney said: "We are extremely disappointed with the decision of the Russian government, despite our clear and legitimate official requests and requests for the extradition of Snowden to the US in private conversations."

    That is, when Russia officially asked to extradite the criminals, you wanted to sneeze, and when you were sent in the same way in three letters - are you disappointed ???? And you are not ofigel ?? !!! belay
    He stated that Moscow had not informed the United States in advance about the decision to grant political asylum to Snowden.

    Washington regional committee at a loss? How is this - they stopped asking what to do and how to live ?? !! Surprise from !! fellow
    “If this information is true, Washington should regard this as a watershed in relations with Russia,” InoTV quotes Republican Party Senator Lindsay Graham as saying.

    Graham is right about the tipping point! In my opinion this is the first time the United States open lost. And I think this is just the beginning.
    He called Russia's decision a provocation and "a sign of Vladimir Putin’s apparent lack of respect for President Obama." The senator urged the US government to give a "hard answer" to Russia's decision.

    Yeah ... and Obama's lack of respect for Putin on the same topics was somehow forgotten .... I wonder what kind of "tough answer" did he mean? Shake a finger, expand the lists, apply (oh, God, how scary!) Economic sanctions? They will definitely not climb with the war.
    Regarding the decision of Russia, Senator John McCain also spoke, of course. He said: “Today’s decision of Russia is an outrage, the purpose of which is to humiliate the United States. This is a slap in the face to all Americans. It is time to radically reconsider our relations with Putin's Russia. ”

    Oh .. the eagle snapped its beak. But this is not a slap in the face to all Americans, it is a slap in the face to the US government, and especially to those like McCain. They do not want good, we will say differently.
    As for Obama, he didn’t even have words in response to the decision of Moscow on Snowden.

    And this one was surprisingly wise. Any comment he made would cause a storm of emotion among senators and gossip in American society. And the extreme in the failure of foreign policy, they would appoint Obama. Although it is already clear that, compared with past US presidents, Obama is neither fish nor meat.
    1. vostok68
      vostok68 3 August 2013 16: 25 New
      +1
      On 2 points: they were warned that the decision would be made by the FMS, and not even at the level of the leader.
      For 4 points: I love traveling, I will visit America with pleasure, but I don’t like the Americans, I hope they won’t be there!
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 3 August 2013 11: 11 New
    16
    How many of our "home-grown whistleblowers" have settled in the United States, denigrating and despising our country for 30 corrupt pieces of silver. The Americans gave them shelter and clapped their hands: well done! The leaders of the bandit formations also found refuge there. And no one is going to give them to us. And so the story turned exactly 180 degrees. Now their denouncer has settled with us. What started hysteria!!! There is no limit to the truly arrogance and unscrupulousness of the Americans! In their own way, they interpret the concepts of human rights and surveillance of citizens of the entire planet. Yes, they wanted to spit on these rights! Gentlemen, American politicians, you are cynical and unprincipled!
    1. alone
      alone 4 August 2013 15: 45 New
      +2
      politicians are all cynical and unprincipled !! and they are all like women with a brothel !! the difference is only in price and in services !!
  • Hemi cuda
    Hemi cuda 3 August 2013 11: 24 New
    +8
    Butthurt crept not noticeably, although it was visible from afar. Congratulations to the Amers on the fact that they drove themselves, fabulous boobies.
  • stalker
    stalker 3 August 2013 11: 26 New
    +4
    Well, the navels of the earth got on a brazen face with a palm (still) amers time to understand that they are not alone in the universe and no one is afraid of them and in general they went to the opera!)
  • Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 3 August 2013 11: 28 New
    24
    Republican senator words from Lindsay Graham.

    "He called Russia's decision a provocation and" a sign of Vladimir Putin's clear lack of respect for President Obama. "
    Yes, some kind of provocation, a subtle hint to the subordinate ...
    1. 12345
      12345 3 August 2013 14: 21 New
      +2
      Still a big round stamp ...
    2. Alekseir162
      Alekseir162 5 August 2013 09: 37 New
      0
      Or maybe it’s a special operation to remove the agent from the attack. Why not?
  • Corsair
    Corsair 3 August 2013 11: 30 New
    +4
    Quote from the article:
    After negotiations with the president of Yemen, several journalists asked Mr. Obama to comment on the situation with Snowden. In response, the head of state said with a smile: "Thank you all."

    A smile only, crooked came out, however wassat
  • crambol
    crambol 3 August 2013 11: 34 New
    +8
    As for Obama, he didn’t even have words in response to the decision of Moscow on Snowden.

    The US president, who has a law degree, reasonably kept silent, unlike the Greyhound senators and congressmen. This is already a welcome fact.
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 3 August 2013 12: 29 New
      +7
      Quote: crambol
      The US president, who has a law degree, reasonably kept silent, unlike the Greyhound senators and congressmen.

      Of course. He understands that he is responsible for each of his words as president, head of state, unlike congressmen, whose job is precisely to grind the tongue no matter what, which they do with varying success. However, that our deputies State Duma that the deputies of the European Parliament are doing the same.
      1. crambol
        crambol 3 August 2013 13: 04 New
        +1

        And not only these!
  • Wedmak
    Wedmak 3 August 2013 11: 36 New
    +4
    By the way, my question has ripened after this
    http://politobzor.net/3093-frg-rastorgla-soglashenie-ob-obmene-dannymi-so-specsl
    uzhbami-ssha.html
    Will the USA in the near future ignore most countries? That is, the communications of special services have already begun to collapse, then diplomatic relations will apparently cool down, along with them economic ones. And the Americans will remain alone on their continent ... along with Canadians and Mexicans. And the latter are also not enthusiastic about the United States. What to do then brave Yankees will ??
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 3 August 2013 11: 49 New
    +4
    <<< Yes, let's add, not like in the Yeltsin times. Nobody is asking the Washington regional committee for advice or approval (for granting asylum to Snowden). All the more so - permissions. >>>
    Finally!!! The only pity is that in the ruling circles and around the ruling circles of Russia there are plenty of people willing (liberal Westernizers from the 5th column) who are even ready to personally DELIVER Snowden to the US authorities in order to earn points from the owners with their zeal and, of course, green dough. They don't care about any nonsense such as freedom of speech, human rights. This is all intended for the "plebs", and they are the chosen ones and are guided by the gamemocratic expediency determined by the State Department!
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 3 August 2013 11: 49 New
    +4
    Russia will have many problems ... but politically we are still on horseback !! There will be provocations soon .. the Anglo-Saxons are masters in this .. (the flow of funding for our "human rights activists" and "fighters" for freedom in the mountains will increase dramatically .. Waiting .. !!
  • anfreezer
    anfreezer 3 August 2013 11: 54 New
    27
    the words of the Republican Senator Lindsay Graham.

    He called the decision of Russia a provocation and “a sign of Vladimir Putin’s apparent lack of respect for President Obama.”
    I hope that from now on Russia (and there Putin or who ...) will be guided by its own interests, and not by strangers ... As for the rest, as our glorious FG Ranevskaya said:"Think and say what you want about me. Where have you seen a cat, who would be interested in what mice say about it?"
    1. urganov
      urganov 4 August 2013 15: 34 New
      0
      Plus for the idea, and a huge minus for using a racist theme.
  • PDM80
    PDM80 3 August 2013 11: 58 New
    +5
    The main thing is that now the states that want to appear independent of ours will not be so easily handed over. And from Americans it is necessary to wait either for Polonsky’s disincident, or the voice of freedom in the American embassy
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 3 August 2013 12: 14 New
    +3
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    Call slap not a desire to lick the American ass?
    I think you shouldn't be so humiliated and called a "slap in the face" the usual refusal of unacceptable and outrageous behavior, to which our American "friends" tried to force us.

    You noticed it very accurately .. !! And there’s nothing to add .. Everything is short and clear !!
  • APASUS
    APASUS 3 August 2013 12: 31 New
    +3
    Of course, Senator John McCain also spoke out about Russia's decision. He said: “Today’s decision of Russia is a disgrace whose goal is to humiliate the United States. This is a slap in the face to all Americans. It’s time to radically rethink our relationship with Putin’s Russia. ”

    Once again, McCain was offended by Russia ........... I will pay now!
  • Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 3 August 2013 12: 40 New
    +4
    Welcome home, Captain Snezhnoyamov! laughing
    But still, the feeling of the performance does not leave ... request
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 3 August 2013 12: 45 New
      +5
      He was still a captain in the womb, now after a successful return he is already a colonel. In general, it’s very useful to realize that our SVR carries out such long-lasting operations for 30 years laughing
  • Jahn
    Jahn 3 August 2013 12: 41 New
    +4
    I didn’t understand, we should ask permission from America, yes, Iraq, Afghanistan’s blood, Libya, Syria, and so on, they have even more problems at home, they’ll fly on the jars soon, there’s nothing from the air force stay and still teach everyone to live
  • Suhov
    Suhov 3 August 2013 13: 11 New
    +9
    Regarding the decision of Russia, spoke out of course, and Senator John McCain.
    He said: “Today’s decision of Russia is a disgrace whose goal is to humiliate the United States.
    It's a slap in the face to all Americans.
    It is time to radically redefine our relationship with Putin's Russia

    The Americans, more precisely, that part of them, which for some reason, is called hawks, got a snot.
    (I apologize for some retreat, but I would have sued the real hawks for such an insult. What kind of hawks are they? They are good, not hawks. So. The retreat is over. You can move on.)
    It is likely that Americans:
    1. Exclude us (Russia) from the list with the name: "Sheep, whose opinion is not worth reckoning", and then
    2. A new list will be created with the name: "Comrades, whose opinion should be taken into account, because from them you can get (or have already received) snot and will lead good this list is the Russian Federation.
    wassat
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 3 August 2013 13: 14 New
      +8
      Quote: Sukhov
      The Americans got a snot.
      We have a "chance" that they:
      1. They will exclude us from the list with the name: "Sheep, whose opinion is not worth reckoning", and then
      2. A new list will be created with the name: "Comrades, whose opinion should be taken into account, because from them you can get (or have already received) snot.
      The second list will be headed by the Russian Federation.


      The Americans do not have a second list. They either have rams or those that need to be destroyed in order for only rams to remain. We have them top the second list on an ongoing basis. wink
      1. Suhov
        Suhov 3 August 2013 13: 34 New
        +6
        Quote: Constantine
        We have them top the second list on an ongoing basis.

        We are alive - it means they reckon with us, good
        We are on the second list - it means they are afraid of us! good
        And you can end it all with the words of the great and incomparable
        Generalissimo V.V.Zhirinovsky: soldier
        "and they all went to * y *, $ drag! wassat
        1. Constantine
          Constantine 3 August 2013 16: 12 New
          +5
          Quote: Sukhov
          We are on the second list - it means they are afraid of us!


          That's for sure) They are well aware that if the Russians were not completely cut out, but they could not do this, the aggressor will inevitably be punished in various forms and places. That's how it works smile
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 3 August 2013 13: 18 New
    +6
    I think Snowden himself does not care much about the US leadership, as well as his extradition. All these "must give out, must not give out, Moscow's unfriendly steps, slaps in the face" and other nonsense around Snowden are organized and supported by all means with one goal, at any cost to distract the attention of an ordinary western man in the street from what exactly Snowden said. Because the essence of what he said is nonsense for us, but for ordinary Westerners this is something impossible, hellish hell and the collapse of all ideals. So they try, distract. I think the top leadership of the Western countries and Russia understands this, hence the restrained reaction to this whole circus and hysteria. It is strange that the opponents of the United States do not use the opportunity that has opened up, although they may have already agreed on everything.
  • matross
    matross 3 August 2013 13: 24 New
    +5
    It was a little surprising that only 43% of Russians spoke out for granting asylum to Snowden. And what about the rest? 57% - are pro-American? The fifth column is too big! Or, again, grimaces of statistics?
    1. Che
      Che 3 August 2013 13: 40 New
      +7
      Quote: matRoss
      It was a little surprising that only 43% of Russians spoke out for granting asylum to Snowden. And what about the rest? 57% - are pro-American? The fifth column is too big! Or, again, grimaces of statistics?


      Media bought up by the West, so such a weak reaction. We will return to ourselves at least part of the media, the matter will be better.
      1. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 4 August 2013 15: 54 New
        +1
        Yeah, let’s get it back. Start it - they will immediately vote that they say they oppress freedom of speech, censorship in the state, etc.
    2. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 3 August 2013 13: 50 New
      +3
      Yes, it is in the spirit of NPOs.
      -So, it’s a mess to conduct a survey about the need for Snowden in Russia. Forward.
      Overlook the area near the Kremlin
      - Do you think Russia needs Snowden?
      “Yes,” the statistician writes.
      Then five said no.
      - Well, statistics were collected. more than 50 percent do not want to see Snowden in the Russian Federation. So let's write it down.
    3. bomg.77
      bomg.77 3 August 2013 16: 10 New
      +8
      Quote: matRoss
      It was a little surprising that only 43% of Russians spoke out for granting asylum to Snowden. And what about the rest? 57% - are pro-American? The fifth column is too big! Or, again, grimaces of statistics?
      One hundred pounds, this Blevada center interrogated. They couldn’t have it otherwise.
  • vadson
    vadson 3 August 2013 13: 29 New
    19
    Vladimir Vladimirovich, please send to the USA instead of Snowden Novodvorskaya
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 3 August 2013 13: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: vadson
      Vladimir Vladimirovich, please send to the USA instead of Snowden Novodvorskaya

      And for one and Serdyukov with Vasilyeva at the Pentagon, Chubysya, Medvedev, Prime Minister, etc.
      1. does it
        does it 3 August 2013 14: 24 New
        +6
        Quote: Garrin
        And for one and Serdyukov with Vasilyeva at the Pentagon, Chubysya, Medvedev, Prime Minister, etc.

        Ne !!! these must be in another place!
      2. omsbon
        omsbon 3 August 2013 14: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: Garrin
        And for one and Serdyukov with Vasilyeva in the Pentagon

        These are the pipes, these "carnivores" only in PRISON and nowhere else! No, if the expense, then "YES", no objection!
      3. kush62
        kush62 3 August 2013 19: 07 New
        +1
        And for one and Serdyukov with Vasilyeva at the Pentagon, Chubysya,
        No, these were felled !!!
    2. Suhov
      Suhov 3 August 2013 13: 54 New
      +6
      Quote: vadson
      Vladimir Vladimirovich, please send to the USA instead of Snowden Novodvorskaya

      good
      Your proposal is certainly attractive, but you should consider the consequences ...
      The Americans will certainly "forgive" us for Snowden,
      as well as in their "forgiven" the Cuban missile crisis.
      But when the partners understand what I’d give a damn about in the person of Novodvorskaya,
      they can be very offended.
      And there, even before the nuclear conflict ...
      So your hi the proposal must be carefully considered.
      wassat
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  • Strashila
    Strashila 3 August 2013 13: 37 New
    +7
    After Snowden's stories about the work of US intelligence, the FBI’s explanation of the Tsarnaev case was read in a rzhachka... like after receiving a warning from Russia ... they were prevented by the law from checking on their involvement in terrorism. The FBI called the Tsarnaevs ... they were terrorists, they answered no ... and they were released. After all, they were terrorists for Russia, no matter how relatives, although they were former senior officials of the CIA, but for Americans they ... proved their loyalty in practice. Here are their previous owners from the CIA and did not allow the FBI to study the guise of new citizens.
  • Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 3 August 2013 13: 45 New
    +3
    After the next Summit during dinner, Obama began to argue with Putin proving that he has a more democratic country.
    - Here, anyone can go to the White House and shout "Down with Obama" and nothing will happen to him.
    - So what? We can go to the Kremlin square and shout that a black monkey rules America and he won’t have anything.
  • 128mgb
    128mgb 3 August 2013 13: 49 New
    +6
    At least once, spit in the impudent face of the world hegemon. I am waiting for a blow to the jaw and under the armpit (for him). I apologize for the harshness.