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1 August - Memorial Day of the soldiers who died in the First World War

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This year, Russia is celebrating for the first time the Day of Remembrance of Warriors who died in World War I of 1914-1918. During World War II — the very name of World War I was called by her contemporaries — at least two million Russian soldiers were killed on the battlefields. However, in Soviet historiography, the First World War wore a completely different definition: “imperialistic”, and Russian victories weapons, the achievements of the Russian military genius, examples of the glorious feats of arms of our soldiers have been consigned to oblivion. The blessed memory of fallen heroes who fought with the enemy and laid their heads for their friends, Faith, the Tsar and the Fatherland, was also committed to undeserved oblivion.


History puts everything in its place. Justice triumphs. Today we are confident that the new generations of Russian people will remember and honor their ancestors who fought for their Motherland on the fronts of the First World War.

Eternal memory to heroes!
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  1. S-200
    S-200 1 August 2013 08: 47 New
    28
    Faithful sons of the Fatherland - eternal MEMORY!
    hi
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 1 August 2013 09: 51 New
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      Quote: S-200
      Faithful sons of the Fatherland - eternal MEMORY!


      soldier

      The victories of your people must be remembered! And then later, types, like the creators of Company of Heroes, will do business sad To give more significance to such dates. Let not take a day off, but annually refresh those events and exploits of the Russian people.
      1. FATEMOGAN
        FATEMOGAN 1 August 2013 12: 16 New
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        Quote: Constantine
        The victories of your people must be remembered!


        They were asked to hold on for 48 hours, they held 190 days .......

        About the heroic defense of the Osovets fortress, which lasted from February to August 1915, during the First World War. This unprecedented event is practically forgotten in Russia, despite the fact that there are very few such feats in world history.

        1. vadimN
          vadimN 1 August 2013 13: 52 New
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          By the way, not everything was blackened and forgotten in Soviet times! In the sixties, the book "Tales of Unknown Heroes" was published. Unfortunately, I don’t remember exactly the name of the author (it seems, Smirnov S.S.), but this book is in my home library (I’ll come home - I’ll find). In it, in several chapters, such forgotten feats of Russian and Soviet soldiers, performed by them during various wars, are described. Including there is described the feat of the "permanent sentinel" fortress Osovets!
          The soldier really stood at the post of 9 years (!)being overwhelmed by the explosion in the basement warehouse of provisions and supplies, which he was set to guard. He was long ago considered dead under the rubble, so they did not remember about that warehouse when they left the fortress. And he stood at the post! 9 years old! When the Poles in the 1924 year began to clear the territory of the fortress and dug up that basement, there was no limit to their surprise and horror, when in a cleared opening they heard a clang of shutter and a voice: "Wait, who's coming !?"

          ... However, on the internet I just found an electronic version of this book and an article about the permanent watchman from Osovets!

          Who cares, read: http://militera.lib.ru/prose/russian/smirnov2/01.html
        2. Apologet.Ru
          Apologet.Ru 1 August 2013 18: 37 New
          +6
          hi
          Winston Churchill, who can hardly be considered a “friend of Russia”, but always remained a wise and sober politician, wrote:
          “Fate was not so cruel to any country as it was to Russia. Her ship sank when the harbor was in sight. She had already endured the storm when everything collapsed. All sacrifices have already been made, all work is completed. Despair and treason seized power when the task was already completed. The long retreats are over; shell hunger defeated; weapons flowed in a wide stream; a stronger, more numerous, better equipped army guarded a huge front, the rear assembly points were crowded with people. Alekseev led the army, and Kolchak - the fleet ... The king was on the throne; The Russian Empire and Russian armies held on, the front was secured, and victory was undeniable ...
          According to the surface fashion of our time, it is customary to interpret the royal system as blind, rotten, worthless tyranny. But the analysis of the 30 months of the war with Germany and Austria should correct these lightweight ideas. We can measure the strength of the Russian Empire by the blows that it suffered, the inexhaustible forces that it developed, and the restoration of forces that it was capable of. "
        3. Blackgrifon
          Blackgrifon 4 August 2013 19: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: FATEMOGAN
          About the heroic defense of the Osovets fortress, which lasted from February to August 1915, during the First World War. This unprecedented event is practically forgotten in Russia, despite the fact that there are very few such feats in world history.


          It is a pity that the heroes were forgotten. They must be remembered - this is our story.
        4. Ulysses
          Ulysses 6 August 2013 19: 25 New
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          It’s a shame to tears that few now know about the heroic defense of the Osowiec fortress.
          It is doubly disappointing that he himself learned about this only a couple of years ago on this site.
      2. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 1 August 2013 15: 43 New
        +5
        Eternal memory to the Russian soldiers who died in the 1-th World War!
        That's just the whole time tormented by the question, WHAT YOU Fought FOR Russian warriors in that war FOR WHAT THE BLOOD WAS SPILLED, FOR WHOSE INTERESTS WAS DIE?
        1. the polar
          the polar 1 August 2013 16: 42 New
          +4
          Quote: vladimirZ
          Eternal memory to the Russian soldiers who died in the 1-th World War!
          That's just the whole time tormented by the question, WHAT YOU Fought FOR Russian warriors in that war FOR WHAT THE BLOOD WAS SPILLED, FOR WHOSE INTERESTS WAS DIE?

          And this should be asked by Ukrainian ideologists, for which, in their opinion, millions of Russians died in that war. And if it was not imperialistic, as they are today, it must have been national liberation and very democratic. Probably the Russian peasants in 1914 lacked to complete happiness only Istanbul and the Mediterranean Straits.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 1 August 2013 16: 46 New
            -3
            Just kept allied promises. This is a traditional way of action for Russia.
            In 2008, Russian peasants also lived normally without Tskhinval
            1. svp67
              svp67 1 August 2013 18: 56 New
              +5
              Quote: Spade
              Just kept allied promises

              Not so simple. The likelihood that the "straits" and Tsargrad would have passed, following the results of a victorious war, under Russian rule was quite high ...
              1. vladimirZ
                vladimirZ 2 August 2013 05: 26 New
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                "... the" straits "and Constantinople would have passed, following the results of a victorious war, under Russian rule ..."
                svp67  Yesterday, 18:56 ↑


                So you answered what the war was like.
                There was no “Patriotic” war.
                The war was for "new lands and colonies", i.e. imperialist, not reflecting the interests of the people. To shed blood and die for some "Dardanelles" Russian peasant and the fuck did not have to.
                1. Oper.ru
                  Oper.ru 3 August 2013 20: 59 New
                  -1
                  The Straits is the eternal goal of all Russian rulers, until 1917 and they went towards it sequentially.
                2. Blackgrifon
                  Blackgrifon 4 August 2013 19: 07 New
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                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  The war was for "new lands and colonies", i.e. imperialist, not reflecting the interests of the people. To shed blood and die for some "Dardanelles" Russian peasant and the fuck did not have to.


                  These "Dardanelles" came around in the Crimean War, when the armadas of the British and French entered the Black Sea without hindrance. In addition, the Dardanelles - this is the most important source of income - the entire Russian south was tied to the export of bread. Take bread with vessels. Guess - what amounts in the form of duties went to the Turks?

                  Quote: Spade
                  In 2008, Russian peasants also lived normally without Tskhinval


                  That is, it was necessary to abandon our peacekeepers?
            2. Pimply
              Pimply 3 August 2013 22: 04 New
              +1
              And in 2008, Russia was interested in a buffer on the border and in preventing Georgia from joining NATO.
          2. Seraph
            Seraph 2 August 2013 07: 51 New
            +1
            If you have not forgotten, Germany declared war on us. In the 41st, we probably should not have entered the war too?
            1. vladimirZ
              vladimirZ 2 August 2013 15: 05 New
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              You can see the story is poor.
              Russia got involved in the world imperialist massacre for the redivision of the world, as they used to say here, "fulfilling an allied duty", although Russia itself, by and large, did not need new lands, its undeveloped "without measure".
              "Dardanelles" - a myth, "carrots" on which the Allies "bred" Russia, and which Russia would not have received in any even victorious conditions, the "Allies" were opposed.
              Germany declared war on Russia in response to the mobilization announced by the tsar, which at that time meant a declaration of war. Germany was not profitable to fight on 2 fronts, and if the tsar, at the suggestion of the allies, did not announce mobilization, perhaps Russia would not be involved in the world imperialist massacre.
              Well, in 1941, you are already out of place. Stalin IV, unlike the "mediocrity" of Nikolai Romanov, turned out to be a smart and far-sighted politician and until 1941 he pushed the world war away from the country until Germany itself aggressively launched the inevitable war for the USSR. And then there was the Patriotic War for the freedom and independence of our country.
              1. azkolt
                azkolt 4 August 2013 18: 38 New
                -1
                And you seem to know the story from Soviet school textbooks, repeating the obsolete stamps behind them! Have read at least something else!
              2. Blackgrifon
                Blackgrifon 4 August 2013 19: 09 New
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                Quote: vladimirZ
                Germany declared war on Russia in response to the mobilization announced by the tsar, which at that time meant a declaration of war. Germany was not profitable to fight on 2 fronts, and if the tsar, at the suggestion of the allies, did not announce mobilization, perhaps Russia would not be involved in the world imperialist massacre.


                Do you forget to say, after which the mobilization was announced? Let me remind you - after the declaration of war by Austria as Serbia, with which Russia was bound by obligations.
        2. Apologet.Ru
          Apologet.Ru 1 August 2013 18: 51 New
          +2
          hi
          Quote vladimirZ
          all the time tormented by the question, WHAT THE Russian soldiers fought in that war, WHAT THE BLOOD WAS SPILLED FOR, WHOSE INTERESTS WAS DIED?

          It's that simple, colleague yes - type in the search engine the phrase "Russia's Goals in the First World War" and ... let the whole world rest ...
        3. lexe
          lexe 1 August 2013 19: 31 New
          -3
          Eternal memory to the Russian soldiers who died in the 1-th World War!
          That's just the whole time tormented by the question WHAT THE Russian soldiers fought for in that war, WHERE THE BLOOD WAS SPILLED FOR, WHOSE INTERESTS WAS DESTINATED?

          For what? Yes, then he got Russia all over the world with delusions of global leadership.
          That there never would have been 1812 and 1941
          That there never would have been 1612 and 1917 and 1991
          That's what they fought for.
        4. Revolver
          Revolver 2 August 2013 08: 40 New
          +3
          Quote: vladimirZ
          That's just the whole time tormented by the question WHAT THE Russian soldiers fought for in that war, WHERE THE BLOOD WAS SPILLED FOR, WHOSE INTERESTS WAS DESTINATED?

          Historians still cannot agree on anything. And the soldiers themselves, at least a large part of them, believed that they were fighting "for Faith, the Tsar and the Fatherland."
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        6. azkolt
          azkolt 4 August 2013 19: 23 New
          -1
          Look, you might be interested
          1. azkolt
            azkolt 4 August 2013 19: 33 New
            +1
            and look again
            1. azkolt
              azkolt 4 August 2013 19: 36 New
              0
              and the last (if there is a desire, I can lay out the course of the war itself)
              1. lexe
                lexe 4 August 2013 21: 40 New
                +1
                Lay out azkolt.
                I share the point of view of the authors of this video. I think many will be interested. All the roots of our problems at that time ...
      3. Raiven
        Raiven 1 August 2013 20: 16 New
        +1
        yes about Relic

        SEGA community manager responsible for CoH 2 fired

        I can not reliably indicate the reason for dismissal, the author of the topic himself claims that the term of his contract has come to an end.

        You are to judge, but the term of his contract expired the next business day after the acceptance of our appeal to SEGA for consideration.

        Source: http://www.coh2.org/topic/6070/my-last-day-at-sega
  2. xetai9977
    xetai9977 1 August 2013 08: 48 New
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    In Soviet times, as a schoolboy, I always wondered why there was so little information about World War I. If they said so, it was almost like a minor skirmish. I understand that ideology did not allow. But where does the simple soldiers and officers who died for their homeland?
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 1 August 2013 08: 50 New
      +8
      Officers in Soviet ideology were not "simple." Unfortunately. Only in the late USSR did progress begin, which was reflected in literature and cinema. But in the history books, almost none.
      1. svp67
        svp67 1 August 2013 10: 33 New
        +3
        Quote: fzr1000
        Officers in Soviet ideology were not "simple."

        And the officer should not be "simple." Since he was entrusted not only with the protection of the homeland, weapons, but with the lives of people. The officer simply must be - "difficult."
        But seriously, it was only after perestroika that he learned that Russian officers, before and especially during the WWII, were very “diluted” by people of “non-noble” origin. At that time, the time came when the old nobility could no longer be a real force in the development of the state, due to its relatively small number of indifference, and more because of the increasing “indifference to real work,” and this was open to the “fellow members” and this it was right. And if Nicholas 2 could organize this process normally, then we would not have had no defeat in the WWII, no revolution ...
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 1 August 2013 11: 05 New
          +5
          The junior officers, the same ensign was introduced in 1886, they took people from "not noble" origin. But the Cossacks all this was also before. And not only for the lower of. officials
        2. KEKS44
          KEKS44 1 August 2013 14: 07 New
          +4
          Quote: svp67
          And if Nicholas 2 could organize this process normally, then we would not have a defeat in the WWII, not a revolution.

          Nicholas 2, due to his personal qualities, could not organize anything.
          1. azkolt
            azkolt 4 August 2013 18: 45 New
            +2
            The same shovels stamps. It was after the king came to power in the army that positive shifts began in her. Later, in the memoirs, even such well-known German generals as Ludendorff noted this merit of the tsar. Enough to repeat what you learned in Soviet schools, it's time to start studying history yourself. At least watch the film Russia of the twentieth century. This is certainly not an academic publication, but at least get an idea. By the way, the Russian Empire for the relatively short reign of Nicholas II increased by 60 million !!! Feel the difference with today's time!
    2. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 1 August 2013 09: 07 New
      +4
      Quote: xetai9977
      In Soviet times, as a schoolboy, I always wondered why there was so little information about World War I. If they said so, it was almost like a minor skirmish. I understand that ideology did not allow. But where does the simple soldiers and officers who died for their homeland?


      I still remember the phrase from the history textbook of the 80s. "Mediocre tsarist generals lost one battle after another" ... There was really very little information. Only independent searches of material ...
      1. rumatam
        rumatam 1 August 2013 09: 40 New
        +6
        Isn’t that so? The environment of the Russian army in the Baltic? But General Brusilov, if he was a genius, was covered both in the textbook and in the book for the children of adolescents, "Future Commanders." Well, there were no large-scale victories in the 1st World War; the trench war is what you want.
        1. Gato
          Gato 1 August 2013 10: 27 New
          +6
          Quote: rumatam
          But General Brusilov, if he was a genius, was covered both in the textbook and in the book for future teenagers "Future Commanders"

          ABOUT! In childhood was my favorite book. Mom called me a "kitchen militarist" laughing
          Brusilov, it seems to me, is mentioned only because he later served in the Red Army.
          But for the first time I learned about Samsonov and Rannenkampfe from the books of Pikul.
          1. AK-47
            AK-47 1 August 2013 11: 57 New
            +4
            Quote: Gato
            Brusilov, it seems to me, is mentioned only because he later served in the Red Army.

            Painful thoughts led him to the Bolsheviks. Perhaps this was prompted by the death of his son, captain, who joined the Red Army and was shot in white by 1919. Since May 1920, he headed the Special Conference under the Commander-in-Chief of all the armed forces of the Soviet Republic, which worked out recommendations for strengthening the Red Army. Since 1921, Aleksei Alekseevich - chairman of the commission for the organization of pre-conscription cavalry training, since 1923 was a member of the Revolutionary Military Council for particularly important assignments. He worked on memoirs published after his death under the name "My Memories".
            General Brusilov died on March 17, 1926 in Moscow from pneumonia at the age of 73. In the camp of white no one mourned him. The Soviet government treated the former commander quite respectfully: he was buried with all military honors at the Novodevichy cemetery.
            1. sergey72
              sergey72 1 August 2013 16: 21 New
              0
              Yes, a good book, I advise you to read .... It is written simply and intelligibly.
            2. azkolt
              azkolt 4 August 2013 18: 50 New
              +2
              As far as I heard, I can’t vouch that this is true, but Brusilov’s conscience has thousands of executed officers in the Crimea. It was under his guarantee that they surrendered and on the orders of Zemlyachki (Zalkind) and Bela Kun were shot and sunk in the Black Sea, even Turkey announced a protest note from the many corpses thrown onto its shores. Didn’t they write such things in books?
          2. stroporez
            stroporez 1 August 2013 12: 00 New
            +2
            I have the identity. Defining moment ---- such books were. And now ????? Is the Toko a "glorious" path for Chubsy ...... why are there no such books now ????
            1. Gato
              Gato 1 August 2013 12: 59 New
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              Quote: stroporez
              I have the identity. Defining moment ---- such books were. And now ?????

              Well, in fact, there are even a couple more books on this subject right now. True, they already have much less patriotism (my opinion). Only who reads them?
        2. svp67
          svp67 1 August 2013 10: 36 New
          +2
          Quote: rumatam
          Isn’t that so?
          Not really. The WWI has clearly shown that one talent cannot win a war anymore, it must be supported by the great Catholicism of modern weapons ...
          1. Gato
            Gato 1 August 2013 15: 04 New
            +2
            Quote: svp67
            great Catholicism modern weapons

            Apparently, you were very impressed with the news about the statements of the pope - therefore such an interesting otopyatka
            laughing drinks
            Brusilov did not have just a large quantity or modern weapons, but he solved the problem of a positional deadlock - an attack in several directions, none of which was initially considered the main one. But where success is outlined, it becomes the main thing. He was not allowed to win a decisive victory and withdraw Austria-Hungary from the war due to the lack of mobile reserves for the development of the offensive, as the cavalry units of the high command carefully pickled in the rear.
            1. azkolt
              azkolt 4 August 2013 18: 59 New
              +2
              The tsar was the initiator of the Brusilov breakthrough. Alekseev actively opposed this plan, offering to strike in different places with the forces of other armies, but Nicholas II insisted. Perhaps I can’t judge how true this is, which is why Brusilov did not receive reserves at the right time.
        3. Trapperxnumx
          Trapperxnumx 1 August 2013 11: 28 New
          +9
          Quote: rumatam
          Isn’t that so? The environment of the Russian army in the Baltic? But General Brusilov, if he was a genius, was covered both in the textbook and in the book for the children of adolescents, "Future Commanders." Well, there were no large-scale victories in the 1st World War; the trench war is what you want.

          No not like this. There were defeats, yes. And where to get the defeat of the Austro-Hungarian army in 1914 and the capture of Przemysl? Gumbinen? The fellow? The defeat of the Turkish armies in the Caucasus? Fights with Goeben, when our old battleships drove a linear armor throughout the World Cup?
          Active mine installations in the Baltic, which have plunged many German ships into the abyss? Where to put it all? Throw out and forget?
          I deliberately keep silent about the “Brusilovsky breakthrough” - this is generally a masterpiece of that era. This is what has already been. I am not talking about the plan for the large-scale offensive of 1917, because it did not take place.
          1. berimor
            berimor 7 August 2013 13: 13 New
            0
            Absolutely right. Could, would put ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
            They didn’t very much mention it in the Soviet literature because the background was very disadvantageous compared to the first stage of the Second World War!
        4. alone
          alone 1 August 2013 14: 43 New
          0
          and Brusilov was recalled only because, after the revolution, he entered the Red Army and was an inspector of the Red Cavalry
        5. Blackgrifon
          Blackgrifon 4 August 2013 19: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: rumatam
          Isn’t that so? The environment of the Russian army in the Baltic? But General Brusilov, if he was a genius, was covered both in the textbook and in the book for the children of adolescents, "Future Commanders." Well, there were no large-scale victories in the 1st World War; the trench war is what you want.


          But what about the battle of Galicia? Is this your defeat? Do not get fooled by propaganda.
      2. azkolt
        azkolt 4 August 2013 19: 42 New
        0
        can be viewed here
        1. azkolt
          azkolt 4 August 2013 19: 47 New
          0
          for some reason, you must definitely write something to the link
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    3. Gato
      Gato 1 August 2013 10: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: xetai9977
      If they said, then almost like a minor skirmish

      Yes, in our view 1 MV was - endless trenches and bayonet attacks on machine guns. But in terms of scope, it even exceeded in some ways 2 MV. Thousands of aircraft and tanks, battles of linear fleets, some gas attacks are worth it. The British and French lost the impression that they called 1 MV just the Great War. And the consequences - three powerful empires collapsed and a completely different era began.
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    4. aleks
      aleks 1 August 2013 12: 14 New
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      But more than now in the history of the Great Patriotic War
  3. Apollo
    Apollo 1 August 2013 08: 51 New
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    Good morning everybody hi


    Eternal and bright memory to all those who fell in defense of the fatherland in the First World War.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 1 August 2013 12: 14 New
      +3
      Quote: Apollon
      Eternal and bright memory to all those who fell in defense of the fatherland in the First World War.

      This year Russia marks for the first time the Day of Remembrance of the Soldiers Who Perished in the First World War 1914-1918.

      ... Almost after the CENTURY finally reduced to To the common denominator ALL Russian history.
      1. Humen
        Humen 1 August 2013 12: 35 New
        +1
        I'm afraid even now it’s hard to reduce everything to a common denominator. Too many contradictions in society itself. sad
  4. deputy ___ watered
    deputy ___ watered 1 August 2013 08: 54 New
    +4
    Eternal memory to the fallen for their homeland!
  5. vlbelugin
    vlbelugin 1 August 2013 08: 56 New
    +3
    It is high time. This is our story. Eternal glory to the heroes who died during the defense of the Fatherland.
  6. pensioner
    pensioner 1 August 2013 09: 05 New
    +3
    My grandfather is a participant of 1 MV. He was an artilleryman. Full St. George Knight. True, I didn’t get anything from him: neither George, nor the dagger, nor personal belongings, nor the awards of the USSR ... It somehow happened that everything was kept by my uncle. And he gave everything to his daughter. There were photos and vague childhood memories of him. Well, the father’s stories about what my grandfather told him before his death ... He was silent all his life, but his father guessed that his grandfather was far from simple ...
  7. LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 1 August 2013 09: 15 New
    +3
    Bright memory to the defenders of the motherland!
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 1 August 2013 09: 52 New
      +7
      Quote: LaGlobal
      Bright memory to the defenders of the motherland!

      A lesson for us Russians, like, allies, England and France threw Russia.
      Favorite words of the Russian emperor Alexander III the Peacemaker (1845–1894): “In the whole world we have only two faithful allies,” he liked to speak to his ministers, “our army and navy. All the others, at the first opportunity, will gang themselves up against us. ”
      And now Russia, there is no one to hope for.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 1 August 2013 11: 03 New
        +3
        Only rely on yourself
  8. morpogr
    morpogr 1 August 2013 09: 21 New
    +5
    We must not forget the feat of arms of these people. Eternal memory.
  9. ed65b
    ed65b 1 August 2013 09: 27 New
    +6
    mine is also a cossack 3 george award checker. After the revolution, he fought in the 1st equestrian army of Buden. There is even a photo in the museum of the revolution. He died with his death surrounded by 5 sons.
    The history of World War I is saturated with the heroism of a soldier and the rare genius of individual commanders. To the descent of the incompetent generals, there were more appointees of the king. But this does not beg the memory of soldiers and officers who honestly sent their goods to their homeland. And those who fought, not only on the western front, but also those who defended Paris covered themselves with unfading glory.
    1. Gato
      Gato 1 August 2013 11: 00 New
      +3
      Quote: ed65b
      my cossack too

      And my great-great-grandfather and great-grandfather. The first was a military foreman, died in Galicia. The second in 1 MV was a coronet, after the revolution he was a komesk in the army of Makhno, together with the squadron he transferred to the Red Army, and with the First Horse participated in a campaign against Warsaw. Then he went through the entire Patriotic War, was the commander of the howitzer regiment of the RGK, and died in 1947.
      Here is the fate of man .. Four wars (including Finnish) for one life.
  10. domokl
    domokl 1 August 2013 09: 27 New
    +7
    The feast of forgotten Heroes ... Sad and a little offensive. Eternal memory to them! And those who were then red, and those who were white or some kind of color ... Probably you need to build a temple with the whole world! Like the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. And immortalize there the names of the heroic units, the names of the heroes of that war. So that they do not turn into dust in the heads of our descendants.
  11. Strashila
    Strashila 1 August 2013 09: 29 New
    +7
    The First World War ... this is a stolen victory by the "allies", the same thing happens after the Second World War ... history does not teach our rulers anything.
    1. creak
      creak 1 August 2013 09: 57 New
      +2
      Churchill, who can hardly be suspected of sympathizing with Russia, wrote in this connection: “Rock was not so merciless to any of the nations as it was to Russia. Her ship sank when the harbor was already visible, it underwent a storm. .. It is gratifying that even with such a delay, August 1 was another memorable date in the history of our country.
  12. SvetoRus
    SvetoRus 1 August 2013 09: 40 New
    +7
    Great-grandfather died somewhere in the Mazurian swamps. Those who died for the Fatherland, Eternal Glory and Eternal Memory!
  13. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 1 August 2013 09: 46 New
    +2
    Eternal Memory of the Fallen Heroes for Faith, Tsar and Fatherland! After 100 years, they decided to remember, but better late than never. soldier drinks
  14. sashka
    sashka 1 August 2013 09: 54 New
    +2
    We are always at War. Or Slaughter ... What do they want from us ... To kill the whole World? We will repay and it will not be a pity ..
  15. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 1 August 2013 09: 54 New
    +1
    History puts everything in its place. Justice triumphs. Today we are confident that new generations of Russian people will remember and honor their ancestors who fought for their homeland on the fronts of the First World War.

    Eternal memory to heroes!
    1. Nina Czerny
      Nina Czerny 4 August 2013 00: 23 New
      +2
      Now they do not remember the heroes of 1941-45, but do you think that some of the youth will remember the heroes of the First World War? I’m afraid that if anyone will be “advertised”, then only those who become “white” ...
  16. George
    George 1 August 2013 10: 11 New
    +2
    Eternal memory to all the fallen.
  17. radio operator
    radio operator 1 August 2013 10: 20 New
    +5
    History puts everything in its place. Justice triumphs. Today we are confident that new generations of Russian people will remember and honor their ancestors who fought for their homeland on the fronts of the First World War.

    Eternal memory to heroes!

    It is wonderful that we begin to recall our story without ideological blinders.
  18. eplewke
    eplewke 1 August 2013 10: 29 New
    +6
    Recall only the Brusilovsky breakthrough, as the valor of a Russian soldier. Results: 400 dead and captured soldiers of the triple alliance, Austria-Hungary on the brink of disaster, the Germans removed several of their divisions from the western front to strengthen the eastern front, the British were given a free breath and plan an attack. Praise and honor to our soldiers!
  19. KEKS44
    KEKS44 1 August 2013 11: 15 New
    +7
    It's a shame, but the victories of the Russian army in that war were obscenely nullified by comrades Lenin and Trotsky! And peace in the country after that did not come! They continued to fight against each other.
  20. falcon
    falcon 1 August 2013 11: 33 New
    +5
    PMV - the mass heroism of ordinary Russian soldiers and the corrupt, mediocre elite, betrayal
    allies ... Before the victory, they could not bear it quite a bit. And to the 2 million people who died in WWI
    add millions of those killed in the fratricidal Civil War! Bright memory of Russian
    to the heroes!
    1. Gato
      Gato 1 August 2013 11: 54 New
      -2
      Quote: falcon
      betrayal
      allies

      With all disrespect for the Western allies - what is their betrayal? It was they who believed that Russia had betrayed the Entente.
      1. falcon
        falcon 1 August 2013 13: 46 New
        +8
        Quote: Gato

        With all disrespect for the Western allies - what is their betrayal? It was they who believed that Russia had betrayed the Entente.

        The question is too voluminous for one post. Russia for 3 years almost single-handedly held the entire Eastern Front, suffered huge losses, was true
        allied duty (legitimacy of the Brest-Litovsk peace, for many reasons,
        unobvious), in the end, it was simply a Great Power. And, I think,
        was supposed to be represented in Versailles as a victorious country.
        Remember the example of France in 2MV. Its surrender in 1940. Nevertheless
        following the war, she entered the "club" of the victorious countries! Here the Germans were
        surprised. These are "double standards" in action. In short, somehow!
        1. eplewke
          eplewke 1 August 2013 14: 12 New
          +2
          I fully agree with you. For some reason, communism is like a predictor for the whole West. Stupidly threw Russia, having forgotten about the 2000000 dead Russian soldiers, and the turning point of General Brussilov ...
  21. taseka
    taseka 1 August 2013 12: 01 New
    +7
    Land in peace to Russian soldiers who fell for their homeland !!!
  22. AK-47
    AK-47 1 August 2013 12: 28 New
    10
    In Minsk, the Bratsk military cemetery of 1914-1918 was restored.

    You read the lists of buried goosebumps:

    Detkin Alexander, private headquarters of the 21st division, 24.7.15 in typhoid gosp.VZS
    Grigory Dekhterev, militiaman of the 415th infantryman of the Bakhmut regiment, 15.8.15/2/XNUMX in the XNUMXnd half-officer of the Minsk state.
    Dekhterev Yefim, private 35 of the Siberian st.p., 14.12.15/322/XNUMX in XNUMX half of the west of the state.
    Dekhtyarev Tikhon, privates of the 8th west of the Siberian st.p., 26.9.15/315/XNUMX in XNUMX half of the sub.
    Petr Dekhtyarenko, rank unknown, 125 civilian transport battalion, 31.7.15/XNUMX/XNUMX in typhoid g.vzs
    Dzhemkolo Joseph, private L.-Guards of Petrogradsky settlement, 21.6.15/289/XNUMX XNUMX half of the west of the state.
    Deacon Semen, private 167th infantryman. Ostrozhsky p., 9.8.15 in the las. KK of the island "Dobrochnost"
    Didenko Egor, private 324th infantryman of the Klyazminsky settlement, 26.5.15 in the state.Kharkivsk.
    Didusha Ignatius, private soldier of the 81st infantryman of Apsheronsky p.
    Dimitriev Semyon, private soldier of the 180th infantryman of Vindavsky settlement, 4.9.15 at 289 half of the west of the state.
    Diomin Philip, privates of the 193rd infantryman of Sviyazhsky settlement, 18.4.15 in the 85th half of the west of the state.
    Directors Peter, private soldier of the 219th infantryman, Kotelnichesky p., 15.3.16 in the las. V.K. Maria Pavlovna
    Dmitriev Polycarp, private 39 of the Siberian st., 10.11.15 in 317 half of the zap.
    Ilya Efimovich Dobrin, private soldier of the 7th infantryman of the Revelsky settlement, died of wounds in the 2nd half-officer of the Minsk state hospital. 18.7.1915/XNUMX/XNUMX. (in another list, the name is Ivan)
    Dolnya Athanasius, privates of the 186th infantryman of the Aslanduz p., 15.8.15/XNUMX/XNUMX in the state Smolensk community
    Dolbnya Semyon, private soldier of the 267th infantryman, Dukhovshchinsky settlement, 13.8.15/1/XNUMX XNUMXst state military district of KK
    Dolinsky Luka, privates of the 416th infantryman of the Verkhnedneprovsky settlement, 12.8.15 at 2
    Dolinsky Peter, private, part unknown, on 24.8.15 in g.V.K. Maria Pavlovna.
    Share Andrei, scorer of the 44th artillery brigade, 2.9.15 in the state KK Smol.
    Domansky Gregory, private 71 infantry battalion, 1.6.15 Min.Military.
    Domkin Peter, ml.unt.-of., 5th cap., Kievsky settlement, 18.8.15/2/XNUMX in the XNUMXnd consolidated Minsk city.
    Domoroda Nikita, private soldier of the 157th infantryman, Imeretinsky settlement, 1.9.15 at 289 pol.
    Donets Fedor, privates of the 76th infantryman of the Kubansky settlement, 14.11.15/85/XNUMX in the XNUMXth half of the state.


    And so a few thousand.
    And what are the names of the regiments.
  23. KEKS44
    KEKS44 1 August 2013 13: 16 New
    +2
    Quote: Strashila
    World War I ... this is a stolen victory by the "allies",

    God be with you, dear. Or do you not know who signed the Brest Peace with the Germans ?!
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 1 August 2013 13: 33 New
      +9
      /AND. A. Ioffe / L. B. Kamenev (Rosenfeld / A. A. Bitsenko / S. D. Maslovsky-Mstislavsky / V. M. Altfater / A. I. Andogsky / A. A. Samoilo / D. G. Fokke / I. Ya. Tseplit / V. Lipsky / L. M. Karakhan / F. V. Olich / K. Ya. Zedin /

      Well, straight russians.
      1. KEKS44
        KEKS44 1 August 2013 13: 50 New
        +7
        Do not forget about Comrade Leibu Bronstein!
      2. sergey72
        sergey72 1 August 2013 16: 29 New
        +1
        A.A. Samoilo nobleman, major general, V.M. Alfater nobleman, Rear Admiral ....
        1. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 1 August 2013 16: 34 New
          +6
          Do you think that their titles justify their act? Or that they acted on the will of the people? Pasha Grachev General Major (GSS) Minister of Defense, Mikhail S. Gorbaty President of the USSR, EBN President of Russia, for me they are no different.
          1. sergey72
            sergey72 1 August 2013 17: 26 New
            0
            You said "mermaids" I answered you ....
          2. sergey72
            sergey72 1 August 2013 17: 35 New
            +1
            I will supplement it. There is a good article in the military materials "Workers 'and Peasants' Imperial Army" .... to you for general development ...
  24. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 1 August 2013 14: 40 New
    -5
    The fact that 2 million soldiers lost during an incomplete war just speaks of how they fought. That is, the losses were three times higher than the losses of France and 4 times the loss of England. And someone says that, in the Great Patriotic War, the red commanders drove the soldiers onto German machine guns. Yeah. It looks like they drove me to WWI too.
    1. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 1 August 2013 15: 13 New
      12
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      The fact that 2 million soldiers lost during an incomplete war just speaks of how they fought. That is, the losses were three times higher than the losses of France and 4 times the loss of England. And someone says that, in the Great Patriotic War, the red commanders drove the soldiers onto German machine guns. Yeah. It looks like they drove me to WWI too.

      French casualties in World War I
      By 1914, the population of France was
      39 601 509 people, of which about 17 million are men.
      During the war years, 6 million people were mobilized.
      More than 1 were killed.
      About 2 French people were injured, of which 800 were seriously injured.
      And where do we see "threefold superiority in losses"? Or again "prosralipolymers"?
      France lost 133 men from every thousand between the ages of 19 and 49. More than half of them were under the age of 25 years. After the war, France found itself in such a deep w ... that it really couldn’t recover and 20 years later.

      This is the first. And secondly, do not forget that we lost 2 million when fighting against Germany, Austria-Hungary and Turkey. Moreover, only AB losses were approx. 1,5 million people, Turkey - approx. 800 thousand, and these are those two countries whose troops fought primarily against us and their main losses were from our troops. At the same time, it was impossible to call the Turkish army weak, because on several occasions they so gloriously hung the British that it was kindly expensive)))
      So the losses of the Russian troops at the front are quite comparable with the losses of the troops who fought against us.
    2. rodevaan
      rodevaan 2 August 2013 04: 33 New
      +6
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      The fact that 2 million soldiers lost during an incomplete war just speaks of how they fought. That is, the losses were three times higher than the losses of France and 4 times the loss of England. And someone says that, in the Great Patriotic War, the red commanders drove the soldiers onto German machine guns. Yeah. It looks like they drove me to WWI too.


      Again begins nonsense about "threw corpses"?
      Losses of the Russian Imperial Army in the First World War - more than 1 people irretrievable losses. France - about 500 000 1, England - about 200 thousand. This is data from various sources, consolidated in the collection of Boris Urlanis "History of military losses." Urlanis cites a huge number of different sources of losses in WWI - both Russian, and French, English and German researchers. For many, the loss data is the same.
      By the way, I strongly advise all lovers of military history to read this very interesting and informative work of an authoritative researcher and demographer. This is one of the few really unbiased sources of losses in various wars, where a meticulous logical calculation of losses from data from various sources is given and all sorts of false billionth "data" are exposed, it is not clear from which light bulb taken.
      So - just in this work there is a section devoted to the First World War and the losses in it. I already mentioned the losses of the Entente, now I’ll talk about the Triple Alliance - Germany lost more than 1, Austria-Hungary - about 800. Turkey - 000.

      By the way, - and once again about nonsense from the category of "corpses threw." Read damn different sources, but do not look stupid zomboyaschik stuffed with Russophobia!

      The Russian theater of operations was the longest in the war, and the Russian army alone had to hold a huge front against 3 enemies at once simultaneously - Germany, Austria-Hungary and Turkey. Whereas the British, French and others all could not do anything together with only the Germans.
      Nevertheless, the loss ratio is as follows: Germany on the Eastern Front lost about 320 thousand. Austria-Hungary - about 700 thousand. Turkey - about 200 thousand. Total - about 1 enemies. Russia - as I have already mentioned - 250. And this despite the fact that the Russian army was noticeably inferior in technical equipment and numerically far superior to enemies. You yourself see the ratio. Is that because the Russian soldier didn’t know how to fight ??? Only the inept command of the generals and poor technical equipment did not allow the Russian army to grind all its enemies together.
      At the same time, the vaunted allies on the Western Front, fighting against one enemy, all together lost about 1 (600 thousand French, 000 thousand British, 900 thousand Americans, Belgians and others), while Germany - 500. So who whom threw corpses ??
  25. Pimply
    Pimply 1 August 2013 15: 10 New
    +4
    It’s bad that a memory day is dedicated to some specific wars. And that the word veteran now only means a WWII veteran.
    There should be a single Memorial Day for the fallen in all wars, and there should be a single commemoration of the veterans of ALL wars.
    1. sergey72
      sergey72 1 August 2013 16: 33 New
      0
      I completely agree with you .... And then again they will begin to divide into "ours" and "not ours" ...
      1. rodevaan
        rodevaan 2 August 2013 03: 29 New
        +1
        It’s a pity that just the veterans of the First World War no one was left alive.
        The latter died in the early 00s.
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  30. pensioner
    pensioner 1 August 2013 19: 04 New
    +1
    Here he is - my grandfather, the head of the secret-operational department of the province’s lips. 18-21gg. In his youth ... Member of the PMV. Full St George Knight ... Proud !!
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      Yoshkin Kot 4 August 2013 17: 10 New
      0
      sponge ??? Well, I drank a lot of Russian blood
  31. Bambino
    Bambino 1 August 2013 19: 10 New
    +5
    I’ll drink my front hundred grams for the Eternal Memory of Russian Soldiers who have laid their heads on the fronts of the First and Great Patriotic Wars. And let all the bankers of Wall Street and the Fed unleash two world massacres choke on all their dough. And God forbid all reasonable people not to give them a chance unwind the flywheel next !!!
  32. pensioner
    pensioner 1 August 2013 19: 26 New
    0
    Quote: Pimply
    there should be a single celebration of veterans of ALL wars.

    so close to the celebration of waffen ss, etc .. No, really. We have our own heroes. You have yours. Here is their honor. And do not meddle with US. Fell down - grow your "heroes". Do not touch ours! Still not dumped? Shut up and wait a moment.
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    2. Hleb
      Hleb 1 August 2013 19: 47 New
      +3
      where is this? he had in mind a completely different one. For example, veterans of military operations gathered (in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Transnistria, Tajikistan ... and made themselves July 1 "Day of the participants in hostilities." Isn’t it just like that? and every year in this day more and more people remember their service and the dead
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 1 August 2013 20: 10 New
        +2
        Well, maybe I'm wrong ... I hate the state of Israel. And I can not do anything about it ... But honestly. Although ... I reread his comment and ...
        Quote: Gleb
        where is this? he had in mind a completely different one. For example, veterans of military operations gathered (in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Transnistria, Tajikistan ... and made themselves July 1 "Day of the participants in hostilities." Isn’t it just like that? and every year in this day more and more people remember their service and the dead
        -did not see. Well, sorry ...
  33. poquello
    poquello 1 August 2013 19: 31 New
    +3
    It is necessary to remember everyone who fought for Russia. Memory of the heroes.
  34. valokordin
    valokordin 1 August 2013 19: 34 New
    +4
    The imperialist war, it was like that, where the interests of 4 empires clashed. The war was not for the interests of ordinary people, but for oligarchic appetites. But the soldiers of the Russian army, they honestly performed their duty and deserve the memory of posterity. Eternal memory to them, they fought for you and me.
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  36. GUSAR
    GUSAR 1 August 2013 21: 27 New
    +6
    The blessed memory of the great Russian warrior and all the soldiers of other great peoples of Russia, finally began to somehow remember that war, and figs with it with ideology, we just MUST know our history and honor the memory of our ancestors!
  37. rodevaan
    rodevaan 2 August 2013 03: 23 New
    +5
    Eternal memory to all our Russian heroes who have laid down their heads in that essentially unnecessary war for Russia.

    I have no right to judge anyone - but I will express my opinion. One of the main reasons for the collapse of the great Russian Empire, and the subsequent terrible Civil War with chaos, devastation and devastated territories, I consider the short-sighted and inept foreign policy of the tsar and his cabinet. Unfortunately, the tsar as a politician turned out to be very indecisive and weak and could not, like Peter I at one time, or Alexander III adequately respond to all external and internal challenges and threats at that time.

    Even the Russo-Japanese war showed what could result in a technical lag in the modern war — obsolete Russian ships, despite the courage and heroism of our sailors, could not oppose the enemies unfortunately. There were many more points of technical lag.
    The same thing happened in the First World War. For unknown reasons, the tsar and the leadership of the country ignored the negative experience of the Russo-Japanese and got involved in a world landfill without completely preparing and properly equipping the army with modern weapons and the necessary quantity of ammunition for the optimal conduct of hostilities in modern conditions. Russia continued to be an agrarian rather than an industrial country — hence the acute shortage of modern weapons and the “shell hunger” —numerous machine guns, aircraft, spare parts for them, engineering equipment, equipment, ammunition — all this was purchased in large numbers in Geyropstan . As a result, the Russian soldier compensated for the technical backwardness with stamina and heroism. Of course, these concepts have been and remain one of the main components of victory, but in modern warfare, where technology has a much greater role to play than man, stamina and heroism, unfortunately, do not always guarantee success. The army, not having the proper amount of modern weapons and ammunition, could not fight well and fully fulfill the tasks assigned to it. As a result of this - frequent defeats in certain operations, unjustified losses, more difficult conditions, a decline in morale and a desire to win. The excessively liberal policy of the tsar and his cabinet of ministers, which does not meet the challenges of that time, aimed primarily at general disarmament, the peaceful resolution of all foreign policy issues, in the conditions of a wild capitalist redivision of the world, naturally could not bring success, and ultimately led to a natural collapse and the decomposition of the entire army, navy, bitterness and riots in society, the prosperity of anti-royal and anti-government sentiment, support by the population and army of the Bolsheviks (advocating the cessation of unpopular wars s, hardships and hardships), to a severe economic crisis and hunger, and as a result to the general collapse of the country, the beginning of the revolution and, alas, to the ensuing all this, the Civil War and the terrible loss of population.

    I believe that the Russian Empire, the tsar and the country's leadership, needed to prepare and have a strong and technically prepared army for any turn of events, but not to get involved in the war we didn’t need. And a great country would be saved, and people would be saved, and there would be no fratricidal slaughter.

    Eternal memory to ordinary soldiers and officers - Russian soldiers who fought for the Fatherland and with their courage and heroism won victories on the fronts and corrected the stupid mistakes of the leadership.
    1. KEKS44
      KEKS44 2 August 2013 07: 12 New
      +4
      The Russian army of 1914 was neither weak nor backward. You cannot crush such warriors as Germans by numerical superiority, only by skill! And the power of weapons in a war is far from everything. What victories in 1914-1915 we can say if there was a complete disregard for the concealment of information. German intelligence worked at 5 with a plus. Generals of Rennenkampf and Ruzsky have written much about the criminal negligence of the commanders of the Russian armies, I will not repeat myself.
      1. rodevaan
        rodevaan 2 August 2013 07: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: KEKS44
        The Russian army of 1914 was neither weak nor backward. You cannot crush such warriors as Germans by numerical superiority, only by skill! And the power of weapons in a war is far from everything. What victories in 1914-1915 we can say if there was a complete disregard for the concealment of information. German intelligence worked at 5 with a plus. Generals of Rennenkampf and Ruzsky have written much about the criminal negligence of the commanders of the Russian armies, I will not repeat myself.


        - About the criminal negligence of Rennenkampf and Ruzsky, as well as the confusion, and the hidden enmity between Rennenkampf and Samsonov, both of whom imagined themselves to be great strategists, and I will not argue both who ruined their armies and will agree. But about the lack of technical support of the Russian army - I'm sorry, I have to disagree! I repeat, Russia was primarily an agrarian, that is, an agricultural country, and not an industrial one. Why did the tsarist government, knowing that the world massacre was ripening, not divert the power of the existing industry to the military? Why didn’t we ourselves arrange production, for example, machine guns? Instead, the king chose to buy a small batch of Madsen in Denmark. Why did Russian pilots fly on the French Newpores, and not on Russian aircraft, although we had all the available capacities for the production of fighters and bombers? Why was engineering equipment, ball bearings, and other spare parts completely purchased abroad? Why is it not produced from us, but purchased in France, England?
        I do not argue, during the war the Russian army carried out brilliant operations at the Caucasian theater of operations completely defeating (once again) the Turks. The Russian army carried out brilliant operations against the Westerners such as the Brusilovsky breakthrough, the Galician operation, the June offensive of 1917 was brilliantly planned - but all these wonderful victories did not decide the overall result - Russia could not ultimately take advantage of these victories, survive as an empire, as a power, and plunged into chaos and the Civil War. The result is terrible. Despite the fact that the Russian Empire fought well and did not lose on the battlefield, it fell apart as an empire and as a great country.
        If the Russian army were well prepared for the war, and if Nicholas II didn’t mess with the 5th column and with external enemies, but would prepare and improve the army with the Ministry of War for a modern war, as Peter I did in its time, then Russia would grind everyone of these West-like warriors back in 1914, well, a maximum in 1915 would have been all over. The Swedes at one time were also an excellent (if not the best European) army of those times, and Peter perfectly understood that archers were already an anachronism. And so he was preparing an army and creating a fleet! And as it turned out not in vain - for a well-trained Russian soldier uncovered the Vikings so that they, like 200 years since the Great Northern War, have been sitting in neutrality quietly and quietly and are not rocking!
        I do not agree that it was a stupid clueless command. Yes, there were frankly weak generals, in particular Ruzsky, Rennenkampf, Samsonov, but there were also talented military leaders such as General Brusilov and General Alekseev.

        Tsar Nicholas, unfortunately, turned out to be a mediocre politician, very liberal, cowardly and highly dependent on his selfish ministers, and did not succeed as Alexander III in decisively suppressing the internal five-column enemies and too much foolishness with Wilhelm, and with other Geyropa, when needed act decisively and soberly.
        As a result, such a national authority in Russia as the tsar, who has always been revered in Russia, completely lost the trust of the people, the army, missed the country rolling into the abyss, resulting in a Civil War, complete chaos and devastation.
        1. KEKS44
          KEKS44 2 August 2013 09: 57 New
          -2
          Quote: rodevaan
          Would the Russian army be well prepared for war

          In a situation where the emperor is following the allies and his military leaders, to put it mildly, they are not competent and a million machine guns and planes will not help.
      2. valokordin
        valokordin 4 August 2013 15: 06 New
        -3
        Quote: KEKS44
        The Russian army of 1914 was neither weak nor backward.

        Dear cake, for information in the German army in the company there were 10 times more machine guns than in the Russian
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 4 August 2013 15: 16 New
          +2
          Quote: valokordin
          Dear cake, for information in the German army in the company was 10 times more machine guns than in Russian

          How is that? In the German infantry company of 1914 there was not a single machine gun.
        2. Trapperxnumx
          Trapperxnumx 5 August 2013 11: 36 New
          0
          in saturation with machine guns, the Russian army was not inferior to the French and German armies. The Russian infantry regiment of the 4-battalion (16-company) composition was armed with a machine gun command from the state on May 6, 1910 with 8 Maxim machine guns. The Germans and the French had six machine guns per 12-company regiment.
          http://topwar.ru/9429-russkaya-imperatorskaya-armiya-i-strategicheskiy-plan-ross
          ii-nakanune-pervoy-mirovoy-voyny.html

          And where do you see "tenfold superiority"?
        3. KEKS44
          KEKS44 5 August 2013 13: 17 New
          +1
          Dear Purgen, for information, the Russian army had more aircraft and artillery (except heavy) than in the German one!
  38. rodevaan
    rodevaan 2 August 2013 08: 05 New
    +3
    I agree that before World War I there was economic growth in Russia and the ruble meant a lot in the global financial arena - Nikolai as an administrator was far from bad! He created the prototype of the UN, he was largely the initiator of the convention on the humane treatment of prisoners and much more. Much attention was paid to the working issue. On June 2, 1897, a law restricting working hours was passed, which established a maximum working day limit of not more than 11,5 hours on ordinary days, and 10 hours on Saturday and holidays, or if at least part of the working day was at night. In factories with more than 100 workers, free medical care was introduced, covering 70 percent of the total number of factory workers (1898). In June 1903, the Rules on the Compensation of Industrial Accident Victims were highly approved, requiring the entrepreneur to pay allowance and pension to the victim or his family in the amount of 50-66% of the victim's maintenance. In 1906, labor unions were created in the country. The law of June 23, 1912 introduced mandatory insurance of workers against illnesses and accidents in Russia.
    By a decree on June 12, 1900, the reference to Siberia was abolished as a punishment measure.
    And it was a competent and revolutionary domestic policy for Russia.

    But, unfortunately, the real requirements of that time were much tougher. As a politician and as a commander, the king, alas, turned out to be no one, for his activities and those of his cabinet of ministers did not meet the requirements of the time when the wild military capitalist redivision of the world was brewing, and then went on. For some reason, Nicholas preferred not to notice this and not to take any significant decisive steps to strengthen and prepare the army and navy and the country's economy for that war and that wartime.
    1. lexe
      lexe 2 August 2013 15: 33 New
      0
      You already decide rodevaan ...
      Our Tsar was kicked, and so yes, the Russian Empire, in your opinion, even nothing was a country ...
      But I’ll remind you that at the end of the 19th century the beginning of the 20th century, a terrorist war was launched against Russia, directed against the core of a government official.
      In fact, it was 1937, but by other methods.
      The central government was in a vacuum, because all decisions were controlled by officials.
      And in the absence of reliable control levers, we almost won the war!
      I would see if several thousand of Roosevelt's loyal supporters fell victim to American gangsters, I think the US superpower simply would not have taken place.
      But for 100 years these guys only improved their methods. Cancer in Chavez, for example.
      So this is our most important problem, but not the construction of the Navy and everything else strategic.
      And the predecessors of Nicholas 2 are to blame - they didn’t respond with terror to terror - but not in Russia itself — they blinked.
      And the fact that Russia was buying this and that (machines / engines) - so it was a common thing. In addition, in order to create your own machine you need to have at least some kind of base.
      Remind me of how we created Soviet pride-cosmonautics?
  39. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 2 August 2013 08: 25 New
    +1
    Russia was dragged into the WWI by the Allies, they saved the French from complete destruction and England, while corruption consumed the army even more than now with the complete connivance of Nikolashka, in Odessa there was a Jewish pogrom by the local population when military depots were plundered and sold by Jewish comrades, and this was everywhere , the soldiers at the front were fed rot and chopped straw mixed with porridge, hence the discontent and fraternization with the Germans, the complete collapse of the economy, a very large gap in the standard of living between ordinary and rich, ate at the top and spawned a revolutionary movement
  40. shoemaker
    shoemaker 2 August 2013 08: 50 New
    0
    I hope that this day will be honored as the day of victory in World War II.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q2qXz-PM3Q
  41. mosgeo1
    mosgeo1 2 August 2013 15: 42 New
    +2
    Well, thank God, at least something from history began to be remembered!
  42. an_ursus
    an_ursus 2 August 2013 16: 52 New
    +1
    Thank God! Let it be modest this year, now this movement is true. Next year it will be necessary to note with dignity and publicity.
  43. Ulan
    Ulan 2 August 2013 18: 53 New
    +1
    The fact that Russia did not need this war at all, and could lead to disaster, wrote to Tsar Durnovo in his report.
    In it, he, as a seer, described the likely outcome for Russia, the revolution, and no benefits from victory if it took place.
    Weakened and in debt like silk, Russia would be completely dependent on the West.
    Russia and Germany did not have insoluble contradictions.
    However, England once again managed to crank out its policy - clashing between the most powerful rivals of Britain on the continent.
    And I would not say that everything was so forgotten.
    Many probably remember the book published for children in the late 60s - "The book of future commanders" Mityaev. The whole chapter there is devoted to the “Brusilovsky breakthrough”. Let me remind you that the book is for children. The Soviet government was not at all opposed to let the Soviet children know about those events and the heroes of that war.
    Although of course it's a drop in the bucket. But still it was.
  44. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 2 August 2013 20: 35 New
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    The current generation of Russia should know and remember the heroes of the 1 world won. After all, these are our grandfathers and great-grandfathers. On this day, there is no need to speculate whether this war was fair or unfair. Our ancestors fought heroically. We must remember this. I was in Germany. I saw the manicured graves of German soldiers of the war 1914-1918. They remember their soldiers.
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 3 August 2013 06: 22 New
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      "On this day, there is no need to speculate whether this war was fair or unfair."
      ivanych47  Yesterday, 20:35


      I do not agree. You need to know what the war was "fair or unfair." So that history does not repeat itself, so that again Russian soldiers do not die for interests alien to them.
      It is necessary to honor and remember why our grandfathers and great-grandfathers died. It is necessary to erect monuments to the fallen soldiers, and to know in what war they participated. And if the war is unfair, then to know the culprits of this war, the main culprits of the death of our soldiers.
  45. Oldman
    Oldman 2 August 2013 21: 57 New
    +1
    In Belarus, the military burial sites of WWI are being actively restored.
  46. KEKS44
    KEKS44 2 August 2013 22: 15 New
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    Quote: Lexi
    Remind me of how we created Soviet pride-cosmonautics?

    And not only. Automotive production in large volumes began with Ford (Already the USSR). AMO, as it were, does not count, the volumes are not the same. The immortal phrase of Stolypin comes to mind: "Give the state 20 years of peace of internal and external, and you will not recognize Russia!" Alas, there was no rest, neither external nor internal! After 20 years, there really was no way to recognize Russia.
  47. rodevaan
    rodevaan 4 August 2013 07: 35 New
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    Quote: Lexi
    You already decide rodevaan ...
    Our Tsar was kicked, and so yes, the Russian Empire, in your opinion, even nothing was a country ...
    But I’ll remind you that at the end of the 19th century the beginning of the 20th century, a terrorist war was launched against Russia, directed against the core of a government official.
    In fact, it was 1937, but by other methods.
    The central government was in a vacuum, because all decisions were controlled by officials.
    And in the absence of reliable control levers, we almost won the war!
    I would see if several thousand of Roosevelt's loyal supporters fell victim to American gangsters, I think the US superpower simply would not have taken place.
    But for 100 years these guys only improved their methods. Cancer in Chavez, for example.
    So this is our most important problem, but not the construction of the Navy and everything else strategic.
    And the predecessors of Nicholas 2 are to blame - they didn’t respond with terror to terror - but not in Russia itself — they blinked.
    And the fact that Russia was buying this and that (machines / engines) - so it was a common thing. In addition, in order to create your own machine you need to have at least some kind of base.
    Remind me of how we created Soviet pride-cosmonautics?


    - Read carefully my posts - heaped up a bunch of nonsense of some kind from my head and still argue. I want to once again say an important thing, namely for those who are in the deaf tank defense - The construction and improvement of the armed forces (Army and Navy) is the key to a successful and less bloody war for their own people.
    The concept of "shell hunger" did not arise from scratch and not just like that, actually! There was really not enough ammunition, but how do you command me to advance without long artillery preparation? The masses of soldiers? This is idiocy - in the yard was actually the 20th century, and not the early Middle Ages.
    Further, Nikolai and the country's leadership, the capitalist ministers, had already run into this rake once in 1904 in the war with the Japs, and unfortunately this lesson did not go in vain! Then it also turned out that technically Russian ships were inferior to the Japanese ones both in terms of speed, in terms of firing range, both in the quality of gunpowder, and in armor, and in general throughout the structure of building naval artillery! The tower structure of the Japanese cruisers turned out to be more efficient and modern than the casemate Russians. And despite the courage of the Russian soldiers and sailors, which was recognized and set an example to their soldiers, even by the enemy so demanding on this aspect, as the Japanese, we still lost. And was General Kuropatkin or Admiral Makarov dumber than Feet?
    What do you think - if the Red Army was in fact and fully prepared (in moral and technical terms) to repulse fascist aggression - would it really be SUCH 1941? Would we have so many prisoners and dead? The bulk of the losses of the Red Army - it was in this ill-fated initial period - 41-42 years. I am sure that if the Red Army were ready, there would have been no 41 years, and the war would have ended already in 1942, a maximum of 43 years. And not in the 45th!
    The Russian-Japanese war clearly showed Nicholas that it is impossible to ignore the armed forces with such a tense world situation! And you will not achieve anything by swearing with internal and external enemies! Stalin and the Soviet leadership on the eve of World War II also with the same carelessness stepped on the tsarist rake, flirting with the Fritz. The Russian leadership, led by the Jews EBN-Kozyrev-and the other bastard, also went into the same abyss, and only the nuclear bomb in his pocket did not allow the world new fascism in Fashington to unleash another war against us.

    Here is what I want to say.
    1. lexe
      lexe 5 August 2013 05: 49 New
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      Shell hunger

      But it was with this hunger that the appetite for victory appeared ...
      The calculation of the shells was to defeat Austria-Hungary, help France (in the east) to mobilize and support the Balkan armies. So that the Schlieffen-Blitz war plan would not take place.
      So Schlieffen was broken off in 1914?-Yes ... and without mountains of equipment as in 1941. That was the difference, there was no concept of militarization of the economy — no one had planted a powder barrel in advance.
      The aggressor carries out militarization. Russia was not the instigator of the war, but had an action plan for an hour.
      And our army fulfilled this plan! By the end of 1914, it was already clear that Germany would lose the war. But Kaiser, annoyed that the German army would not go away in Paris again, decided to drag out the matter. And perhaps the third force that needed the slaughter intervened was to make the people go crazy. ..
      After 1914, tough arithmetic-human resources worked.
      And the militarization of the economy. And the economic base for 1-2 years was used for militarization. But without the numbers of 1913, it would not have been possible.
      Strength + economy + allies ---- Nicholas 2 gave all this!
      Yes, in 1915 it was hard, but the Russian army withstood the time of industry.
      Our casualties in the Second World War were not covered before and after in the USSR numerically.
      And all the losses of the Russian army did not even come close to the birth rate in Russia then. Moreover, we actually fought with 3 empires. Forced captivity was not considered a disgrace. After the victory, all who were captured would return home, as this is how Nikolai 2 differs sharply from Stalin.
      The Russo-Japanese War gave our army a lot. Without this exam, for thousands of miles from the central regions of Russia, the Entente would not have won (which we had stolen) in 1917. England and the USA would have rolled us there. And all attempts to imagine a business failure funny. They fought in the colonies ...
      The agitprom of the USSR revealed-betrayed its colonial essence. laughing
      But RI did not need a powerful fleet!Why? We are the mainland! And all attempts to create a decent Navy are then considered through the prism of a powerful Soviet Navy-flawed opinion.
      So ...
      The masses of soldiers? This is idiocy - in the yard was actually the 20th century, and not the early Middle Ages.
      --you decide
      And do not read Russian (Soviet) newspapers ... they have one Russophobia.
  48. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 4 August 2013 07: 49 New
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    He served somehow in the GSVG and near the Zerbst airfield there was a military burial place from the time of the 1 World War. The Russian prisoners of war who died in captivity from wounds and diseases were buried. The state of burial is quite satisfactory, that is, it can be seen that it is periodically looked after. Wooden crosses really all cracked from time and weather, but most Latin inscriptions are readable.
    And tie about the kings - find another place. Here about the fallen RUSSIAN WARRIORS.
  49. valokordin
    valokordin 4 August 2013 15: 30 New
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    Quote: rodevaan
    The Russian leadership, led by the Jews EBN-Kozyrev-and the other bastard, also went into the same abyss, and only the nuclear bomb in his pocket did not allow the world new fascism in Fashington to unleash another war against us.

    I’ll tell you, I heard from my grandfather, he’s been fighting since 1889, died in 1983 - he broke his leg, a member of the 1st World War, a soldier, a Bolshevik. In the war on the western front 15-17g. They ate from hand to mouth, there were not enough weapons and cartridges. Dirt, lice, a bathhouse only in the rear and only once a month. Officers, starting with the company, could muzzle. They went on the attack, but lived separately, only in 1, platoon ensigns from teachers became closer with soldiers. The Bolsheviks appeared in the companies in 16 and he also became a Bolshevik, because he was against the war. He had George, but did not wear it, but showed it to me. The cross is silver.
    1. azkolt
      azkolt 4 August 2013 20: 15 New
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      my great-grandfather also fought in the WWI, but for some reason did not go to the Bolsheviks. Yours just burst with them. Until now, we can’t sort it all out!
      1. rodevaan
        rodevaan 4 August 2013 21: 18 New
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        Quote: azkolt
        my great-grandfather also fought in the WWI, but for some reason did not go to the Bolsheviks. Yours just burst with them. Until now, we can’t sort it all out!


        “It is not for us to judge our ancestors who followed whom.” All fought for something and defended something. Our task is not to condemn - but to store, remember and increase what they gave us, and not to repeat their mistakes.
    2. rodevaan
      rodevaan 4 August 2013 21: 15 New
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      Quote: valokordin
      The cross is silver.


      - That's right. CALL 4 st, silver 990 These are crosses of Goscekan arr. 1913 year. They were issued in 1914-1915 and in the first half of 1916. On September 10, 1916, in connection with the economic crisis, precious metals - gold and silver - were removed from the George Cross. They began to stamp from "yellow" and "white" alloys. These crosses were marked with the letters "ZhM", "BM". Plus there was a bunch of private traders, from which they just did not stamp.
  50. azkolt
    azkolt 4 August 2013 19: 50 New
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    and about the famous Brusilovsky breakthrough