Military Review

After the pogrom of military representatives

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The sharp drop in the quality of products of the defense industry of Russia forced the Ministry of Defense to revive military acceptance


In the course of Serdukov reforms, the institute of military missions of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, as is known, suffered serious losses. He was not only significantly reduced, but was also effectively excluded from determining the quality and price of military products, many experienced specialists were transferred to the reserve. What this led to, and how the situation is changing today, was discussed at a research and practice conference at the 46 Central Research Institute of the Russian Ministry of Defense.

The Office of Military Representations (VP) of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is entrusted with the functions of monitoring the implementation of the state defense order (GOZ) and the quality of military products, as well as space systems and complexes of scientific, socio-economic, commercial and military purposes, aviation technicians. More than 60 percent of the work of military missions is associated with monitoring the implementation of state defense orders. Including 56 percent - through the Ministry of Defense.

Depressing performance

Unfortunately, since 2012, the military offices of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation have been virtually excluded from the pricing process for military products. In particular, in 2012 (under Serdyukov) a document was approved on the distribution of the range of military products according to the volume of control. In accordance with it, the military missions were exempted from participation in the preparation of factory contracts for the supply of components, pricing, coordination and control over the implementation of research, in the preparation of private technical tasks issued to the principal executors (co-performers), from much more. At about the same time, hundreds of trained military representatives were fired or taken out of state, who had to look for work "in the civilian world." All this has turned into an uncontrolled increase in prices for weapons and military equipment.

After the pogrom of military representativesNevertheless, the main issue is the quality control of the supplied products, which is extremely difficult to accomplish with the annual growth of the state defense order, increasing the supply of weapons and military equipment. For example, before 2016, the number of models of new weapons should be provided at the level of 30 percent, by 2020, up to 70 percent. The development stages for the main types of weapons and military equipment (IWT), which will determine the appearance of the modern Armed Forces, are now ending.

“Unfortunately, the quality of the supplied weapons and military equipment currently leaves much to be desired,” complained Colonel Oleg Stepanov, the head of the Directorate of military missions of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. “Compared to 2011 – 2012 over the years, performance is not improving here, they are simply depressing.”

This is evidenced by the dynamics of return by the military missions of products that did not withstand the established test category. According to the Ministry of Defense, about nine products from the 10 are returned to the VP when conducting certain tests. But this is after the inspection of products by the technical control departments of the enterprises themselves.

Last year, the 515 military offices once stopped the acceptance and shipment of products due to quality problems that were identified during the operation of defects. Another depressing indicator is the percentage of complaints. In 2012, in relation to 2011, their number immediately increased by 60 percent. If 2011 claims were filed in 1918, in 2012, 3154 was filed.

The sharp increase in quality claims on the part of exploitation could be explained by the increased number of equipment that is under warranty, the intensity of the exercise, the “childhood diseases” of new weapons and military equipment in the army. However, such a substantial increase in complaints makes us think about a lot.

In the opinion of the military representatives, this is still explained by the insufficient equipment of most industrial enterprises with modern production technologies and equipment, instrumentation and control equipment. At times, raw weapons and military equipment samples are put into operation, which undergo very many design changes in the first two years.

The level of effectiveness of quality management systems directly in a number of enterprises is not high enough. It is not a secret to anyone that in the 2000-ies the civil services of their quality were reduced to almost zero. It was believed that these were unnecessary, economically inexpedient structures that military acceptance could supposedly replace. As a result, the qualifications of the QC personnel working there have dropped significantly. And the military acceptance itself was later reformed, in recent years the normal working relationship with the troops has been lost, where the quality and reliability of equipment is checked.

It is not always that defense plants seek clarification of the true causes of equipment failure. Sometimes it is easier and cheaper to simply replace a failed chip, rather than look for the reasons for the refusal in it or the structural device of a unit, product.

“Among the enterprises to which the Ministry of Defense has the most significant quality claims are OJSC GOKB Projector, Moscow (Moscow), OOO Reduktor (Perm), OJSC Yaroslavl Radio Plant, and OJSC Elektroagregat, military missions of the Russian Defense Ministry.

In this regard, great attention is now being paid to forecasting problematic issues at the planning stage of the SDO. But conflict situations are not always avoided. For example, from contracts that were broken back during the 2008 – 2012 period, 76 has not yet been fulfilled, although four years have passed. In 2012, more than 20 percent of weapons and military equipment was left unused to the operating organizations. And fines amounted to 4,8 billion rubles.

There are enterprises that simply disrupt the implementation of state defense orders. According to Oleg Stepanov, this is JSC “Military Industrial Company” - for deliveries of BTR-82A, Aviakor aircraft factory (Samara) - by An-140 aircraft, Mayak plant (Kirov) - by anti-tank guided missiles, air defense concern “ Almaz-Antey "- according to C-400.

There are problems with the service technology. For six months, 2013 was actually served in the troops by no more than 15 – 20 percent of what was planned. I wonder what, then, was done and done by the troops of the Oboronservis structure?

How to curb prices

Let's return to the issue of pricing policy at the stages of the formation and placement of the state defense order. Last year, by a government decree No. 766, the function of controlling pricing and the actual costs incurred by enterprises in executing state defense orders was removed from the EP. 2012 showed a rapid increase in prices for components, which the head enterprises tried to restrain with difficulty, especially in cooperation products.

At the stage of placing the state defense order, the military acceptance examines the calculation and calculation materials and issues its conclusion on this basis. The EP is an intermediate link, since the same materials are then worked out by the Office of Military-Economic Analysis, which implies a two-level system for determining prices. But this does not always work.

“Only a representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, who is directly at the enterprise and knows its economic condition, as well as the real state of affairs, can objectively check the actual costs, name the planned price for military products,” said Viktor Medvedev, head of the military economic analysis department. “But the leadership of defense enterprises and military representatives do not always find mutual understanding in terms of providing the necessary documents when justifying the price.”

And the main problem here is the lack of a regulatory framework that is binding on both parties. According to experts, the most rational decision here would be the restoration of the full resolution of the Government of the Russian Federation No. 804, where many issues were taken into account. But even this, like the return of military representatives to enterprises, today, unfortunately, will no longer give an instant effect. In the military acceptance over the past two or three years, there has been a huge shortage of specialists, especially those who are capable of doing economic work. So that after the actual defeat of the military acceptance they are recruited and prepared again, it will take more than one year.

There are also problems associated, for example, with regard to the costs of enterprises for delivering the product to the consumer, by concealing the pricing procedure by the intermediary firms. They all require consistent solutions. And the Ministry of Defense, returning to the position of common sense, is making considerable efforts in this regard.

In January 2013, the instructions of the Deputy Minister of Defense that the military missions should participate in the formation of the initial prices of government contracts, both hosted by a single performer and other positions, were prepared and passed legal and legal assessment by the military authorities. These decisions do not contradict the provisions of the legislation of the Russian Federation, in accordance with which the Ministry of Defense as the state customer is charged with the functions of pricing the state defense order and exercising control over the targeted use of allocated budget allocations. Although lately some directors of defense enterprises have lost the habit of such a role of the Interim Government and are bombarded with questions by the Ministry of Defense, the Office of Military Representations of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, and the Minister of Defense, saying that these instructions contradict Russian legislation and government decrees. As a result, conflict situations are sometimes created, the GOZ suffers.

There are two problems that prevent the formation of a draft price and submit it to the customer and the Office of Military-Economic Analysis of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

Firstly, the payment of the work of the principal contractor with the cooperation. Not all enterprises maintain separate cost accounting, as provided for by government decree No. 47. Often, materials are submitted on one or two pages without decoding and confirmation of the stated prices. Such materials are returned by military missions for revision. At the same time, there is a government decree No. 441, an order of the Ministry of Industry and Energy No. 200, an order of the Federal Tariff Service No. 118, which allow to organize work and ensure the preparation of the necessary calculation materials for the state defense order.

Secondly, the lack of a pricing methodology that would be understandable and accepted for execution by all parties. For example, the current order of the Ministry of Industry and Energy No. 200 of 2006, “On Approval of the Order of Costs for Military Products”, requires clarifications and additions, since it does not define the full range of costs and the possibility of including them in the cost of production, does not disclose the pricing procedure. In particular, for work with an uncertain volume, service, repair on the technical condition. This situation leads to disagreements in determining the price of products, delaying the time for concluding contracts, and in some cases to the contractor’s refusal to deliver products.

The FZ No. 275 of 2012 of the Year “On State Defense Order” defines the following types of prices: approximate, fixed, reimbursing costs. It would seem that it allows you to take into account all the nuances. However, n. 2 Art. 11 of this law states that the conditions and procedure for the application of price types is established by the government of the Russian Federation. But this procedure and conditions for determining types of prices have not yet been developed and make it difficult to use them, as well as the conclusion of a number of contracts.

“The Protocol of the Military-Industrial Commission under the Government of the Russian Federation dated 28 in January 2011 approved the procedure for determining the composition of costs for the creation of military scientific and technical products supplied by the GOZ,” explains Viktor Medvedev. “But he also failed to register with the Ministry of Justice and cannot be an official document binding on the part of the determination of prices for R & D.”

All of this suggests that the Ministry of Industry and Trade should, as soon as possible, develop guidelines that would fully disclose the package of costs attributable to the cost of weapons and military equipment, determine the pricing procedure.

Return to common sense

24 March 2013 of the Year Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu approved a plan to revive and improve the activities of military missions, practically reviving what was destroyed. It provides three areas of work.

1. Improving the regulatory framework of the Interim Government and, in particular, developing a draft order of the Minister of Defense “On the procedure for determining the nomenclature of military products subject to military acceptance control”. The Defense Ministry is moving away from the territorial principle of building military missions and returns to the species one (by types of weapons and military equipment). The departments (groups) that used to be part of territorial IDPs have been reduced, and the concept of “territorial military mission” has been abolished. In connection with this, the role of head military missions according to models of weapons and military equipment is growing. Such a system has shown its effectiveness in previous years.

2. The number of all military missions of the Ministry of Defense in 2013 will be increased (the documents have already been signed) almost doubled. Accordingly, a sufficient number of posts are introduced, which should be staffed by new people. For this purpose, the order of the Minister of Defense No. 194 is being processed.

3. Training and retraining of military personnel began in nine military universities, as well as at military departments of four civil universities. First of all, these are officers who have served in the army, especially in the engineering and technical staff, have operational experience, knowledge of the “narrow” places of specific weapons and military equipment and their potential.

From now on, the military missions will consider the quality control and acceptance of all weapons of the GOZ as their main duty. With the exception of civilian products that are not subject to the requirements of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, products of a foreign manufacturer, as well as clothing and equipment. In addition, the VP is assigned the functions of timely informing the ordering authorities with the possibility of adopting corrective positions in the fulfillment of the state defense order. From 2013, this data has been submitted to the Central Command Post of the General Staff.

All this should correct the damage caused to the military acceptance and military missions of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation by ill-considered actions of the former leadership of the Russian Defense Ministry.
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  1. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 31 July 2013 09: 05 New
    +8
    At one time, classes on armored training with us were taught by Colonel Shavlohov (he was a colorful man, he visited Czechoslovakia as part of the famous tank tour). So he, perhaps a little and exaggerating, said that, being a military receiver at the tank engine plant, he had the authority to “wrap up” the entire batch located in the workshop if, for example, he detected a temperature mismatch in his norm.
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 31 July 2013 09: 14 New
      +7
      As far as I know, I had :))) Maybe you don’t wrap the batch, but stopping production before normalizing the indicators is easy
      1. treskoed
        treskoed 31 July 2013 09: 38 New
        +4
        And with today's orders, they will also buy a military record! After all, everything is unpunished!
        1. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 1 August 2013 03: 11 New
          0
          Quote: treskoed
          And with today's orders, they will also buy a military record! After all, everything is unpunished!


          You need to think with your head, not with tuches. Today, sold for nothing - tomorrow you’ll ride the forest for nothing.
      2. My address
        My address 31 July 2013 09: 49 New
        +2
        Could not stop production. But to refuse acceptance without ceremony. But motivated. For example, referring to the non-observance of regulations on personnel qualifications, although the Quality Control Department could miss. I met the military representative, who said that he would miss the party ....., which he sent to the settling chamber of the Quality Control Department. The man was with character and had his own opinion, based on the experience of the service. He believed that the Quality Control Department was reinsured. Early OTC quickly slapped on the head and the product went. Military representatives took out those who had served intellect above stools.
      3. serge-68-68
        serge-68-68 31 July 2013 10: 09 New
        +1
        Well, then, not exaggerating. I still remember his traditionally Caucasian accent: "I love this car ... BTR-60 - what? - That's right - PB" ...
      4. ed65b
        ed65b 31 July 2013 11: 17 New
        +1
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        As far as I know, I had :))) Maybe you don’t wrap the batch, but stopping production before normalizing the indicators is easy

        That's for sure. party goth. he famously wrapped up products; he himself has repeatedly witnessed this.
    2. maxvik
      maxvik 31 July 2013 11: 56 New
      +1
      It is possible if this temperature decree in the process
    3. valokordin
      valokordin 31 July 2013 15: 47 New
      +3
      Quote: serge-68-68
      At one time, classes on armored training with us were taught by Colonel Shavlohov (he was a colorful man, he visited Czechoslovakia as part of the famous tank tour). So he, perhaps a little and exaggerating, said that, being a military receiver at the tank engine plant, he had the authority to “wrap up” the entire batch located in the workshop if, for example, he detected a temperature mismatch in his norm.

      Keep in mind that Taburetkin only complied with the president’s instructions, supposedly reducing the cost of defense products, and when everyone saw the result of the presidential initiative, they wept and decided to return this necessary tool, attributing this achievement to Shoigu. But he only fulfills the presidential will to correct his own mistakes.
    4. kind
      kind 31 July 2013 16: 30 New
      0
      He could have wrapped the prize for the entire workshop.
  2. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 31 July 2013 09: 16 New
    10
    More and more convinced (as a layman, nothing more!) That for stool ARTICLE UK it's time to change ... it's not a fraud, it's NET CHANGE TO THE MOTHERLAND! am
    1. treskoed
      treskoed 31 July 2013 09: 41 New
      +5
      Quote: Valery Neon
      More and more convinced (as a layman, nothing more!) That for stool ARTICLE UK it's time to change ... it's not a fraud, it's NET CHANGE TO THE MOTHERLAND! am

      Yes, at least for some attracted!
      1. Alez
        Alez 31 July 2013 09: 48 New
        +6
        In accordance with the current Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, it is possible to attract an individual who is competent. And how to plant a TABRET, he is a MONUMENT !!!!
  3. Suhov
    Suhov 31 July 2013 09: 55 New
    +3
    Everything changes and only nonsense remains in its original form.
    Remember the approach?
    We will destroy the whole world of violence
    to the bottom
    and then...
  4. Nikitin
    Nikitin 31 July 2013 10: 13 New
    +6
    No wonder the Soviet system of military acceptance at one time was carefully studied and copied by many countries, including USA.
    But, during the years of "perestroika" (and indeed at the end of the Soviet period), this system has become the most corrupt part of the most corrupt department. The “kickbacks” do not always rule the most professional and technically competent military specialists. With such a system, even the use of budgetary funds is not worth talking about. And therefore, the result of the defense industry should not be directly dependent on the structure and staffing of military missions. Reforming the military acceptance system is an important but far from complete measure. What is needed in the first place is a whole range of anti-corruption measures + the revival of the system of military scientific institutes - independent evaluators of both the TTZ in the R&D and the results of its implementation.
  5. s1н7т
    s1н7т 31 July 2013 10: 48 New
    0
    The brainless Putininoid policy will go around for a long time, however.
  6. IRBIS
    IRBIS 31 July 2013 10: 51 New
    +3
    In Soviet times, the factory, where they sewed shorts and T-shirts, had his own military representative. But now getting a factory with obvious defects is not even an event. All got used to the mess, unfortunately. And the position of the state in these matters has noticeably weakened, if not more - is inactive. No one is afraid of anything.
  7. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 31 July 2013 11: 13 New
    +3
    Quote: Valery Neon
    More and more convinced (as a layman, nothing more!) That for stool ARTICLE UK it's time to change ... it's not a fraud, it's NET CHANGE TO THE MOTHERLAND! am

    Undermining the country's combat readiness - CHANGE TO THE MOTHERLAND - Art. 58 - 25 years without the right to correspondence (under Stalin's articles)!
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 1 August 2013 00: 38 New
      +1
      And no one will be responsible for the appointment of such an MO? Freebie, blin!
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 1 August 2013 00: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Starover_Z
      Undermining the country's combat readiness - CHANGE TO THE MOTHERLAND - Art. 58 - 25 years without the right to correspondence (under Stalin's articles)!

      To apply the Stalinist articles, we need Stalin. Well, at least not for long, for a year or two, along with Beria.
      1. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 1 August 2013 08: 04 New
        0
        First, a liberal clique with NGOs must be strangled quietly.
    3. The comment was deleted.
  8. ed65b
    ed65b 31 July 2013 11: 20 New
    +3
    Yes heaped up affairs of stools. alright grandmother stole so also engaged in sabotage and direct wrecking.
    1. Kushadasov
      Kushadasov 31 July 2013 14: 52 New
      +3
      and with whose supply did he twist? I believe that both the President and the Prime Minister should share responsibility for a failed and criminal personnel decision. Therefore, they are lingering and trying to cover up the cause of this outspoken enemy of the country.
  9. pensioner
    pensioner 31 July 2013 11: 27 New
    +2
    Wrap up a batch of finished products VP could easily! Whatever the costs of the enterprise for its manufacture. During my career at our enterprise, this has never happened under the program of our factory itself. But for others it was ... They groaned. Quality requirements on the part of the airspace were often excessive.
    1. Very old
      Very old 31 July 2013 15: 43 New
      +1
      Yuri, our military representative never demanded beyond the norm, but God forbid, he just noticed negligence: when you understand that this is the life of a soldier, he didn’t say anything else. Do you live in E-burg?
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 31 July 2013 19: 53 New
        0
        Quote: Old very
        Do you live in E-burg?

        Yes. And you too. I understood for a long time ... But to the point of absurdity it came to them more than once. They came running to us rolls of printers, criminals were looking for crime ... Children ... Maybe they didn’t require above the standard, but when the battles were over for 2 * 10v -3 mass%, for example, chromium ... Not phosphorus and sulfur ... I I didn’t know where to run ... Or they were getting carbon in the middle of the range, and not at the edges ... Horror !! I can’t grab grief at the most! And this despite the fact that he played football for them ...
  10. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 31 July 2013 11: 58 New
    +4
    Quote: retired
    Quality requirements on the part of the EP were often excessive

    From the point of view of the performer, it may seem so. VP requirements are based on current technical documentation. And missiles with airplanes did not fall under the existing airspace, and prices kept within the normal range. VPs were independent of the enterprise and were personally responsible for the quality of the products they received. This helped to contain corruption. And OTK at all times was a division of the enterprise, with its own pocket interested in improving production indicators. Principal people there did not stay long.
    Restoring the EP is a long and difficult process, but absolutely necessary. To the author + definitely!
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 31 July 2013 20: 00 New
      0
      Quote: Michael m
      Restoring the EP is a long and difficult process, but absolutely necessary. To the author + definitely!

      Yes, who would be against !! I just conveyed my personal feelings ... But I didn’t doubt and do not need them! Furthermore. Only for one destruction of the Institute of VP Serdyukov- "Guilty of death!".
  11. Odessitka
    Odessitka 31 July 2013 13: 35 New
    +5
    Taburetkin's "reforms", more than once backfire.
  12. 1961NNN
    1961NNN 31 July 2013 13: 57 New
    +2
    "Taburetkin" - the executor of the will of the SUPREME CHIEF COMMANDER, "advisers" all remained in the positions of PUNK, SMIRNOV, GOREMYKIN, MAKAROV and that was added ... they ruined everything from acceptance, aviation (basing), military commissariats, etc .... up to the frames! AND NO ONE IS GUILT! AND NO ONE WILL RESPOND FOR THIS! RUSSIA!
  13. knn54
    knn54 31 July 2013 14: 19 New
    +4
    Additional independent control over ALL stages of the production of weapons and military equipment in modern conditions is only for the benefit of enterprises.
    Status, as in the days of the USSR - “VP” is separated from the management of the plant where it works.
    And these should be MILITARY ENGINEERS, not Amazon managers. A good military representative is “piece goods.”
    And further. Now the housing issue is very acute. And without ensuring the life-rear of the officer’s family, the task cannot be completely solved.
    PS for example. Lloyd (Germany) has a separate military unit that controls military products.
  14. michajlo
    michajlo 31 July 2013 18: 26 New
    +2
    Good day to all!
    I quote the author of the article:
    All this should correct the damage caused to the military acceptance and military missions of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation by ill-considered actions of the former leadership of the Russian Defense Ministry.

    In my opinion in fact, there was, and is, not RANDOMITY or CHAOTICITY in the actions of the higher handicrafts of Russia, the army and the military-industrial complex, and direct intentional and deliberate harm The purpose of which, while reducing the very defense capabilities of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan, is the maximum possible plunder of the state budget in millions and billions of rubles without the personal criminal responsibility of the leaders and why years of unsinkable persons!

    I quote a forum member: 1961NNN SU Today, 13:57
    "Taburetkin" - the executor of the will of the SUPREME CHIEF COMMANDER, "advisers" all remained in the positions of PUNK, SMIRNOV, GOREMYKIN, MAKAROV and that was added ... they ruined everything from acceptance, aviation (basing), military commissariats, etc .... up to the frames! AND NO ONE IS GUILT! AND NO ONE WILL RESPOND FOR THIS! RUSSIA!

    After all, dear forum users, who among you are mature and wise people believes in fictions about chance, coincidence and other tales for kindergarten and nursery?
    All these processes of "cutting the dough" and the sale of the motherland are planned and carried out ahead of time. And in the event of the appearance of "knots and hinds" during the implementation, emergency moves and bypass maneuvers are performed ...
    As the old Slovak folk proverb says: "Without farting and worms will not move."
    Well, where will they find in Russia now qualified and incorruptible Military Representatives with experience in army service, maintenance of equipment and engineering training?
    Patriots and principled people from the Moscow Region and the military-industrial complex deliberately and purposefully "squeezed out", since the principle of "personal gain" was not accepted, but only in the old fashioned way were "sovereign people" and cherished for the homeland abilities.
    After all, VPs who do not accept the thesis, "that everything will be decided by the amount of money in an envelope or secret account" - just dangerous for oligarchs, entrepreneurs, and especially for the Minister of Defense and the other "Kremlin shushera".
    This obvious fact scares me the most..
    Indeed, the majority of all fiery speeches of GDP at the higher meetings of various krupnyak “with instructions: improve, eliminate, fulfill” - from TV screens and press pages have been going on for a continuous year. What are the results?
    After all, whatever the "envious of the GDP" would say, he rules the third presidential term (he is not always busy with fulfilling the instructions of the "influential groups").
    And thieves, corruption, the bail of officials - have not disappeared at all !!!
    This fact, does not add optimism to me. I personally would like so much that not only in the world but also in Russia, the word of the Russian President would carry weight and his instructions would not have to be repeated 3-5 times for 4-6 years, with minimal result.
    1. lucidlook
      lucidlook 1 August 2013 02: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: michajlo
      And thieves, corruption, the bail of officials - have not disappeared at all !!!

      So there are no objective reasons for that. None. They are affected only by fear, but it is precisely that they have nothing to fear and no one to fear.

      And as for fiery speeches, then ... what is the main quality of a scout? Believable and convincing to lieso that no one suspects.
      1. military
        military 1 August 2013 10: 53 New
        +2
        Quote: lucidlook
        And as for fiery speeches, then ... what is the main quality of a scout? It is plausible and convincing to lie so that no one suspects.

        this is the quality of a spy ... petty ...
  15. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 31 July 2013 20: 43 New
    +2
    Hundreds of trained military representatives who had to look for work “in civilian life” were dismissed or taken out of state. All this turned into an uncontrolled rise in prices for weapons and military equipment.

    Marshal Taburetkin is an experienced businessman, he knows that if you don’t share kickbacks with anyone, you will get more, and even military representatives can surrender.
    Here is an example of an unsinkable official and intellectual; V.I. Lenin was right, it does not sink.
  16. Waroc
    Waroc 31 July 2013 21: 16 New
    +2
    Well, they reformed. But I remember about a year ago on the site a bunch of comments like - and why the heck they are needed there, these receivers - do nothing, do not answer for anything, they just eat vodka and put bribes in your pocket ... but God is not a frayer ... life once again put everything in its place.
  17. Passer
    Passer 31 July 2013 23: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: retired
    Quality requirements on the part of the airspace were often excessive.

    Weapons requirements cannot be excessive. How can armament requirements be redundant? How can one get, for example, ammunition of understated quality (some of which have come across, though very rarely), or small arms, or "2nd grade" auto and armored vehicles? In the field, all shortcomings will surely come up, and in the "front end" they will lead to personnel losses. By the way, I always liked to use RG-42 grenades (I found several boxes of this rarity in the RAV warehouse) not a single misfire!