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It is necessary to restore the North Caucasus IED in the same status - under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Defense


The Commission of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation on problems of national security and socio-economic conditions of life of military personnel, members of their families and veterans held hearings on the theme “On the prospects for the development of Suvorov military schools in the Russian Federation”. We publish excerpts from the speeches sounded.

The main issue is the reconstruction of the North Caucasus Suvorov Military School (SKSVU) in the system of the Defense Ministry on the basis of the current Vladikavkaz Cadet Corps.

In line with the sovereign policy

In 1918, the 36-e Tula Infantry Courses of the Red Commanders were created, giving rise to the Ordzhonikidze Higher Combined-Arms Command Command of the twice-eminent Marshal of the Soviet Union A.I. Eremenko (OVOK). In May, the 1924-th 17-I Tula Infantry School (former 36-th courses) was relocated to Vladikavkaz and became known as the 17-nd Vladikavkaz Infantry School. I, a graduate of Ordzhonikidze Voka, know history cities. At the beginning of the 20th century, the Vladikavkaz Cadet Corps was created there, a unique building was constructed. All this is evidence of the once correct policy to strengthen the region.

School, killed three timesI remember that in our school there were guys of all the peoples of the Soviet Union. We were different. Four years of higher education, but most importantly - studied the traditions of the North Caucasus and the peoples of the USSR in general. We were taught to be friends, culture, history. Then, after leaving the school abroad, to other republics, territories, regions, we, having such potential, worked with the soldiers, the local population, introduced this culture, developed it. In fact, we were educators and promoters of the correct inter-ethnic policy. Our and other schools in Vladikavkaz played a huge role in raising our people’s tolerance and tolerance, they formed a sense of friendship and respect for the peoples of different nationalities, for people in general.

An officer in both the Russian Empire and the USSR carried state ideas and preserved the integrity of the country. Today, somehow, gradually we are leaving the North Caucasus, including due to the fact that we are cutting down military schools. The OVOKU, the Ordzhonikidze Higher Military Command Red Banner School of the USSR Ministry of the Interior named after SM Kirov (OVVKKU, later the North Caucasus Military Institute of the Internal Affairs Ministry MVD), Ordzhonikidze Higher Anti-Aircraft Missile Command School of Air Defense (OZRKU) were destroyed.

В этом году отметили 70 лет Сталинградской битвы. Есть книга об ОВОКУ. Она рассказывает: в самый тяжелый период в ноябре 1942-го, когда Манштейн был послан на прорыв – деблокировать Паулюса, все владикавказские училища были брошены на фронт. Мальчишек подняли по тревоге, выгрузили на станции Чирской. Все три училища погибли в снегах, чтобы не допустить прорыв tank колон Манштейна. Можем себе представить, какую подготовку имели курсанты и какую наши ополченцы с двухнедельным обучением. Курсанты месяцами, а иногда годами готовились к настоящей войне. Именно они сыграли важнейшую роль в Сталинградской битве. Не зря наше училище, ОВОКУ, было награждено орденом Боевого Красного Знамени, а многие выпускники стали Героями Советского Союза.

After the collapse of the USSR, the Vladikavkaz School became the only base for the mountain training of officers. Look at our borders. How many mountainous territories we have, ranging from the Far East and ending in the north. Everywhere need mountain training. There is no more such a base as OVOKU. There were schools in Almaty, Tbilisi, but the best - in Vladikavkaz. I say this as a former officer of the General Staff of the Ground Forces who inspected all military schools. There were eight of them in the Soviet Union, and the best mountain training was in Vladikavkaz.

Finishing the historical part, I would like to note: if we had achieved the legal status of the Suvorov School belonging to the Ministry of Defense, we would not only transfer the glorious traditions to the current Vladikavkaz Cadet Corps, but also strengthen our state. It is necessary to take into account the political situation and significance of the region, as well as the role of officer training. I propose to revive the history and traditions of OVOKU on the basis of the current cadet corps. Another option: let the corps remain as a cadet (Suvorov) school of the Ministry of Education, but at the same time as the assignee of both the Imperial Cadet Corps and the Higher All-Arms Command School of the USSR Armed Forces.

Alexander Kanshin,
Chairman of the Commission of the Public Chamber on the problems of national security and socio-economic conditions of life of military personnel, members of their families and veterans



Defense Ministry does not withdraw

We are very kind to what is. We are talking about pre-university educational institutions of the system of Suvorov schools, the Nakhimov school, cadet corps. The same applies to higher military educational institutions. In the Ministry of Defense, traditions and military-patriotic education are now being revived. It is not a secret for anyone that one of the first decisions of the Minister of Defense is the return of Suvorov and cadets to parades in 2013 year. In all cities where pre-university educational institutions are located, such events took place.

The next step - by order of the Minister of Defense Suvorov and Nakhimov schools, the cadet corps are subordinated to the appropriate commander in chief, that is, the chiefs, in whose interests they will later undergo training. Basically, all IEDs - the commander-in-chief of the Ground Forces. Ulyanovsk School - Commander of the Airborne Forces. St. Petersburg Cadet Corps - Deputy Minister of Defense General of the Army Bulgakov. Marine pre-university educational institutions, primarily St. Petersburg Nakhimov, - the commander in chief of the Navy.

Next, we made the departmental system of pre-university education more open and understandable. Currently, we are finishing the recruitment of minors in pre-university educational institutions. Over 1700 people selected. The competition in pre-university educational institutions this year is much higher than in the past. This is facilitated by the fact that the Minister of Defense has expanded the categories of citizens for admission to departmental educational institutions. The privilege to receive only children of servicemen and civilian personnel, orphans, children left without parental care has been removed. With the current admission campaign comes all minors.

It was decided to restore the military component of the training. Starting September 1, we are planning to introduce the subject “Basics of Military Service”, including drill and fire training. In 10 – 11 classes - military geography. In the summer period of at least two weeks, and in some schools and three weeks for Suvorov, Nakhimov, cadets, trips to specialized military schools are planned. There they will be able to familiarize themselves with the life of the cadets, to obtain primary knowledge about the chosen military specialties.

This year, about 90 percent of graduates of pre-university educational institutions of the Ministry of Defense decided to enter higher education institutions of the Ministry of Defense. The rest preferred FSB, MIA, MES.

Essentially the issue.

In 2010 – 2011, the North Caucasus Suvorov Military School was transferred to the Republic of North Ossetia-Alania. However, I repeat, each school is unique for us, therefore we accompany any such institution even when it is no longer under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Defense. We still do not lose touch.

Until 2011, the CCUHU was contained in accordance with the agreement between the Ministry of Defense and the Government of the Republic of North Ossetia-Alania. The authority to manage the educational institution was divided. Later, the parliament of the republic adopted a resolution on the transfer of the VCA to the region. Corresponding appeals were sent to the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation and the head of the republic. Further: the legislation of the Russian Federation did not allow the institution to be maintained on co-financing terms. Two articles in the new edition (38.1 and 60) were introduced into the budget code. In order to solve this problem, the military department reported the situation to the president of the country and suggested either making changes to the budget code to return to co-financing or look for new ways of co-founding cadet-type educational institutions.

Igor Muravlyannikov,
Acting Head of the Military Education Department of the Main Directorate of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation, Colonel



Only public interest

It is necessary to switch from a financial to a state-political language. The basic position is that which has been proposed to society in many public speeches of the Supreme Commander. When we set about restoring this historic military school, the situation in the North Caucasus was better. However, there was little money and response in government structures.

Now the situation is not perfect, but much more understanding at different levels. It is about maintaining continuity and military intelligentsia, which are characteristic of the Russian and the Greater Caucasus in general as part of historical Russia. The departure of military schools from the region, their abolition is political myopia.

Last fall, I spoke at the big international forum in Bulgaria, dedicated to the 135 anniversary of the victory in the Russian-Turkish war of 1877 – 1878. I talked about the battles of two Vladkavkaz regiments of the front line on Shipka. This aroused great interest. Thus, we have a glorious military past. The fact that there is no Suvorov school, the universities of the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Border Troops have been eliminated, is a mistake.

The approach to solving this issue should not go through the numbers. If there is a state will, it does not matter if there are trainees in the 600 or 800 staff (the question was raised how many cadets should be in a school). To correct the problem do not need to ask for two or three years. Some decisions are made quickly, like on the battlefield, if it is politically expedient.

My personal conversations with the President and the Prime Minister in 1998 started filling the newly opened IED with all the necessary things. We were not interested in money then. We pulled these things on ourselves in the hope that we would later hand it over to the Ministry of Defense. Now voiced completely reverse information.

So, there was a presidential decree on the reconstruction of the school, a detailed government decree of March 2 2000, directive of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces 18 August 1999, an order of the Minister of Defense on April 11 2000. The license No. 1342 from 2 of April 2010 of the year, valid on 3 of April of 2015, was obtained, according to which the CCCH should operate in the system of the Ministry of Defense.

In 2008, we succeeded, using primarily political arguments, to defend the school. Former Defense Minister Serdyukov assured that there will be no liquidation. However, later on, in 2011, all instances were ignored. The decision was not brought even to the level of verbal agreement. This is an elementary, textbook procedure in the state. The military-political aspects were forgotten. The main thing was the property, inventory.

The school has disappeared. Today we need to create a precedent: in order to correct erroneous decisions of the times of Serdyukov, it is necessary to abolish the completely inexplicable - the elimination of SKSVU.

Until tradition is forgotten, there is an aspiration, a spirit, it is important to focus on the restoration of a unique educational institution. The Public Chamber, which has a special prestige among a great many organizations, should resolve this issue.

Now we are working hard on a single story. The diversity of teen educational institutions starts the reverse process. It is wrong to take away Suvorov schools. The competition of law enforcement agencies creates the image is not all-Russian. In each of them it is proved that it is their federal department that is the most excellent, that without them the country will simply disappear. This is absurd.

Alexander Dzasokhov,
Deputy Chairman of the Commission of the Russian Federation for UNESCO



Decisions taken

Following the meeting and public hearings that took place on the territory of the republic, as well as taking into account the social and political importance of this educational institution in training military personnel from among the youth of the republics of the North Caucasus, the commission will appeal to the Minister of Defense with a request to consider the possibility of restoring the North Caucasian Suvorov military school in the same status - under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Defense. The Commission of the Public Chamber creates a working group headed by First Deputy Chairman of the Commission Vladimir Lagkuev, which will monitor the situation associated with the restoration of the SKSVU in Vladikavkaz.

Alexander Kanshin


Help

26 September 1901 was created by the decree of Emperor Nicholas II. The Vladikavkaz Cadet Corps (1901 – 1917) was created.

24 May 1903-th laid the main building, where today is the headquarters of the 58-th army.

1919 - The Vladikavkaz Cadet Corps has been restored in the Armed Forces of Southern Russia.

December 4 1919 of the year combined with the Poltava Cadet Corps.

4 March 1920 th retreated marching to Georgia, from where it was transferred to the Crimea. In the Russian army in the Crimea, the Crimean Cadet Corps was established from the remnants of it and the Poltava Cadet Corps, located in Oreanda and then evacuated to Yugoslavia.

1943 - The Krasnodar Suvorov Military School (1943 – 1947) was created in Maykop.

In August, the 1947 school was relocated to the capital of North Ossetia, the city of Dzaudzhikau (from 1954 of the year - Ordzhonikidze, from 1990 of the year of Vladikavkaz) and became known as the North Caucasus SVU.

1948 is the first release of the NCBU.

1948 – 1958 - Caucasian Red Banner Suvorov Officers' School (Suvorov and cadets).

1958 – 1965 - Caucasian Red Banner IED (Suvorov Only).

1965 – 1968 - Ordzhonikidze SVU.

1968 – 1988 - on the basis of the Suvorov and combined-arms schools, created and graduates officers of the Ordzhonikidze Higher Combined-Arms Command Twice Red Banner School named after Marshal of the Soviet Union A.I. Eremenko (OVOK).

2000 - the opening of the new SKSVU (2000 – 2011), restored on the basis of the order of the RF Minister of Defense on April 11 2000, with the active support of the President of the Republic of North Ossetia - Alania Alexander Dzasokhov.

2 April 2010 of the Year - SKSVU received a license number 1342, according to which the school should operate in the system of the Ministry of Defense until 3 April 2015 of the year.

2011 - SKSVU is closed, property in 2012 is transferred to the Ministry of Education of the Republic.

2012 - the opening of the Vladikavkaz cadet corps outside the system of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
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  1. OCD
    OCD 31 July 2013 09: 30 New
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    "Were destroyed OVOKU, Ordzhonikidze Higher Military Command Red Banner School of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs named after S. Kirov (OVVKKU, later the North Caucasus Military Institute of the VV MVD), Ordzhonikidze Higher Anti-aircraft Missile Command School of Air Defense (OVZRKU).
    After the collapse of the USSR, the Vladikavkaz school became the only base for mountain officers training. Look at our borders. How many mountainous territories we have, starting from the Far East and ending with the north. Everywhere you need mountain training. The base that was in is no longer there. There were schools in Alma-Ata, Tbilisi, but the best is in Vladikavkaz. I say this as a former officer of the General Staff of the Ground Forces who inspected all combined-arms schools. There were eight of them in the Soviet Union, and the best mountain training was in Vladikavkaz. "

    The author very accurately indicated that the disbanded schools (OVOKU, Ordzhonikidze Higher Military Command Red Banner School of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR named after S. M. Kirov (OVVKKU, later the North Caucasian Military Institute of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Ministry of Internal Affairs disbanded several years ago), Ordzhonikidze Higher Anti-Aircraft Missile Command (P OVZRKU), trained officers who knew the tactics of military operations in the mountains and who can fight in the mountains, if they teach mountain training somewhere, then they teach mountain climbing and climbing, but this is completely different.
    PS Schools closed. But why was it necessary to fill the swimming pool with concrete in the OVOKU?
    1. Transbaikal
      Transbaikal 31 July 2013 11: 47 New
      +4
      Oh, why was it closed at all ?! I remember how regiments entered the territory of the OVOKDU in '93 and it began! I was there in 2006 - a sad sight! And, looking at the BMP in front of the checkpoint, well, does the 58 Army really have no money for a couple of cans of paint ?!
    2. berimor
      berimor 31 July 2013 21: 10 New
      +4
      How insulting and bitter to read all this !!! I finished this IED in 1963 with a 7-year term of study, then it was called the Caucasian Red Banner IED). It was a powerful school for the training of future officers with excellent command of a foreign language (not without reason graduates of IEDs entered immediately the second year of combined arms, tank, airborne higher and all secondary military schools without exams !!!) At the end I had a diploma of a military translator 3 classes and became a climber of the USSR first stage! From 7 years of study, the last 3 years (senior training companies) underwent military training in the troops (in particular, in the 25 Chapaev training division in the city of Grozny) and there, along with soldiers, participated in battalion exercises and often showed greater ability to use weapons and engineering preparation (digging trenches of a full profile, etc.), tactics of conducting combined arms combat, and the first 4 years of the 45 days of summer were spent in camps where studies continued in. language, applied geometry, topography and much more. We knew how to drive tanks, armored personnel carriers, shoot from almost all types of small arms and a grenade launcher armed with weapons, and fired from a 76-mm gun. Combined arms training for me, an air defense officer, then came in handy during the fighting in Egypt and Syria, when it was necessary to organize a competent circular defense of the ZRDN position (at the air defense school, by the way, I also graduated from it in Ordzhonikidze, this science was not very cultivated)! The officers who graduated from the IEDs were basically the elite of the USSR Armed Forces !!!
  2. Alf
    Alf 31 July 2013 10: 48 New
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    "The fact that the universities of the Moscow Region, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the border troops have been eliminated is a mistake."
    This is not a mistake, it is a direct wrecking and betrayal and it should be considered from the point of view of the 58 and 64 Articles of the Criminal Code.
    1. 1961NNN
      1961NNN 31 July 2013 14: 11 New
      +7
      I agree with you 100%! Only the listed articles are for us, for the people. And they - who graduated from the Armed Forces, excuse me - "reformed" from the caste of UNTouchables - MONUMENTS - WHO WILL PLANT THEM?
    2. CTEPX
      CTEPX 31 July 2013 18: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: Alf
      This is not a mistake, this is direct wrecking and betrayal

      This is a given. Our sworn friends, the hands of their "foreign agents" in the posts of deputies, in ALL regions of the Russian Federation adopted regional laws "On Youth", "On Youth Policy" and even "On State Youth Policy", in accordance with which to finance military-patriotic education, preparation for service in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, without breaking the law - IMPOSSIBLE)).
      Making changes, in the case of Moscow's attempts to rectify the situation in favor of patriotism, is happening at lightning speed)).
      1. ansons
        ansons 1 August 2013 01: 07 New
        +1
        Where are these laws? In Penza, for example, Cadet School No. 46 of the Cossack Cadet Corps of General Sleptsov and others, such as the Governor, have long been opened for a long time.
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 1 August 2013 08: 40 New
          0
          Quote: ansons
          We have in Penza

          Well)). You have not yet adopted such a law in Penza. And the program, where there were wonderful words about military-patriotic education, is no longer valid.
    3. nycsson
      nycsson 31 July 2013 22: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: Alf
      This is not a mistake, it is a direct wrecking and betrayal and it should be considered from the point of view of the 58 and 64 Articles of the Criminal Code.

      Guess who eliminated them! I tell you! The closure and opening of military schools is in the full competence of the Government of the Russian Federation. wassat Now take the liquidation dates and draw conclusions! Some closed DAM, others GDP! laughing
  3. runway
    runway 31 July 2013 11: 17 New
    +1
    In my opinion, the author’s comparison of the number of educational institutions in the USSR and Russia is erroneous. The size of the Armed Forces of that and present time is not comparable. To date, the number of aircraft is less than 800 thousand people.
    A completely different situation with the troops of "internal destination". Their number today exceeds the number of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation almost twice. New universities and cadet schools are preparing command staff for these troops.
    The formation, relocation, or transfer of the honorary title is subordinated to (mainly) the financial and economic feasibility of the organizational event. This is the harsh truth of today's life.
    1. sapsan14
      sapsan14 31 July 2013 12: 12 New
      +7
      Good afternoon!
      Under no circumstances can the country's defense be regulated by market relations. These are completely different fields of activity. And the "harsh truth of today's life" cannot be an excuse.
      Even if the number of military educational institutions was excessive, the methods and methods of their reductions and associations are CRIMINAL.
      Destroy experience, best practices and traditions. And then the amount will be adjusted to the desired "digital".
      From my school there was only one building and headquarters, the rest was demolished and given for residential development. They even built a candle on a former parade ground ... am
  4. Poruchik 90
    Poruchik 90 31 July 2013 11: 38 New
    +3
    1968–1988 On the basis of the Suvorov and combined-arms schools, the Ordzhonikidze Higher Combined-Arms Command Double Red Banner School named after Marshal of the Soviet Union A. I. Eremenko (OVOKU) was created and graduates.

    A slight inaccuracy regarding 1988, since I am a graduate of 1990.
  5. Alf
    Alf 31 July 2013 11: 47 New
    +6
    Quote: piston
    The formation, relocation, or transfer of the honorary title is subordinated to (mainly) the financial and economic feasibility of the organizational event. This is the harsh truth of today's life.

    No, the need for the organization itself is a big question. In modern warfare, the army should not only be well armed and trained, but also numerous, because modern weapons have very large striking characteristics.
    About the economic need. This need did not prevent the need to increase the number of explosives.
  6. Alf
    Alf 31 July 2013 13: 13 New
    +2
    Quote: sapsan14
    They even built a candle on a former parade ground ...

    Business Above All! Killing for this is necessary.
  7. valokordin
    valokordin 31 July 2013 16: 04 New
    +5
    Shame on the traitors to the Motherland who destroyed the Ordzhonikidzen Infantry School. In 1943, my valiant father-in-law Vasily Nikolayevich graduated from this school in Volsk, Saratov Region, and in the rank of junior lieutenant in 1944 was sent to command a platoon platoon on the 1st Baltic Front. He served in the front line for 6 months before the lieutenant, commander of the penal company. He was seriously injured. (May 9, met in the reserve regiment.) He spoke warmly about his school commanders.
  8. michajlo
    michajlo 31 July 2013 17: 19 New
    +4
    Quote: 1961NNN
    I agree with you 100%! Only the listed articles are for us, for the people. And they - who graduated from the Armed Forces, excuse me - "reformed" from the caste of UNTouchables - MONUMENTS - WHO WILL PLANT THEM?

    Good day to all!
    I completely agree with the author of the note! As long as various "untouchable" and "unpunished" traitors, traitors to the Motherland and business thieves exist and live at large, we won’t get anything good.
    The Russian army is bloodless, senior experienced officers left or were forced to leave the army, young people fit for military service are few.
    If tomorrow is war, then who will be put to the defense of the motherland? Office plankton or different "managers"?
    And the very fact that the chillennost of the VV, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Emergencies exceeded the number of military defenders of the Motherland directly indicates that Russia transformed from a popular to a police state, in which the political elite fears its people more, heating an external adversary ...
    The fact that specific become the Criminal Code (as I wrote, I quote a forum member) Alf SU Today, 10:48 AM
    "The fact that the universities of the Moscow Region, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the border troops have been eliminated is a mistake."
    This is not a mistake, it is a direct wrecking and betrayal and it should be considered from the point of view of the 58 and 64 Articles of the Criminal Code.

    exist it is a fact but they are used only against us ordinary people without a lot of money and connections.
    Now specifically in the EU (Slovakia), most laws (the entire Law Collection since 1991 are new and periodically improved) are written so that personal and criminal responsibility remains only for the lower classes!
    But the upper ranks before the law are clean since according to the interpretations of the new "democratic" laws, they did not commit anything criminal, and to prove to them the deliberate destruction of enterprises, design bureaus, landfills or just working, but for them competing firms is difficult and almost impossible.
    Therefore, here in Slovakia, a person who stole a loaf of bread (= 1,20 Euro) in a grocery store can get a prison for 2-4 years, and an entrepreneur, a deputy of the Supreme Council (People’s Rada), who did not pay on payments (with taxes) a little better) hundreds of thousands or millions of euros, can simply say that: I’m still thinking, will I agree to take on POLITICAL RESPONSIBILITY?
    In my opinion, while the Kremlin elite (now it’s GDP), will not return personal and criminal responsibilityl for the organization, leadership and the results obtained in the state, army, production, science and agriculture (which was under Stalin) - nothing will change.
    In the meantime, all snotty "universal managers and managers" will with impunity, intentionally and purposefully destroy and plunder everything that is even poured with concrete or welded to the foundation in Russia and the CIS.
  9. tank64rus
    tank64rus 31 July 2013 19: 30 New
    +7
    The result of the dispersal of universities is already beginning to affect the lack of officers. It is interesting whether the “Serdyukovskie” reform workers from the Moscow Region knew that the excess number of universities in their opinion was caused by military doctrine, which provided for the destruction of up to 80% of the military potential of the USSR and the USA during a nuclear strike. Therefore, the branches and types of troops had instead of one large two or three universities, and each university had a mob. resources to be destroyed. The academies were concentrated in Moscow, the only city with missile defense. It was impossible to destroy such a system for training military specialists. However, it was enough for the reformers to visit the United States and listen to American "friends" and everything was decided. A system that could not be destroyed by nuclear weapons was destroyed by the "reformers". That's all.
    1. matross
      matross 31 July 2013 19: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: tank64rus
      Did the "Serdyukovskie" Reformists from the Moscow Region Know that the Number of Universities Excessive in Their Opinion

      The quotation marks are not there, comrade! Serdyukovsky without quotes, but the "reformers" in quotes for sure! Thieves, traitors and prosh.man.dovki! "Their opinion" is only a compliment to them, they have one opinion - how much more to sleep .. dit! They did not care about universities! They are few in number - pour acid over faces and have felled for life, with on-line broadcasting !!!
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 31 July 2013 21: 50 New
        +1
        and you think that it will be. Here I have for some reason. Nurgaliyev finished off the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Chubais destroyed everything that he reached out to and that where they are.
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 31 July 2013 22: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: tank64rus
      I wonder if the "Serdyukovskie" reformist from the Moscow Region knew

      What have you done with this Serdyukov? He is a simple performer! Is it really not clear ?! request
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 1 August 2013 00: 12 New
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        Quote: nycsson
        What have you done with this Serdyukov? He is a simple performer! Is it really not clear ?!

        Well, if it were clear, EP and its “rudders” would not have won the election for so many years. Looks like it doesn’t reach.
  10. s1н7т
    s1н7т 1 August 2013 00: 22 New
    +1
    I’m here, my school is also sorry for tears, but I don’t moan, because I understand that having destroyed the Union, everything that is connected with it will be destroyed. For they need to save the loot, to create such a situation in the country when everyone wants only to devour enough, when everything except everything is instinct. As long as we have capitalism, they feel good. They stole the COUNTRY with all its wealth from us. Well, they will restore some sort of SvLU - who will it prepare? Defenders of their stolen billions? They don’t have a Homeland, they only have a Trumpet. The author is a fighter with windmills, no more.