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Zigzags of personnel policy

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Restoration of a full-fledged officer corps is a strategic task.


As a result of large-scale personnel purges over the past few years, many officers were forced to leave our army. Recall that in the course of reforming the Armed Forces of Russia, it was decided to reduce the total number of officer corps from 335 thousand to 150 thousand, that is, more than twice. Later, these figures were corrected several times, and now after the statement made by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu of his intention to return officers to the army who were dismissed under his predecessor, it is very difficult to get an exact answer to the question of how many officers are actually serving in the Russian Armed Forces.

The motivation, according to which the current head of the Ministry of Defense decided to strengthen the officer corps - the basis of the army, is understandable. “Let's return those officers who were the color of science, the color of military education,” said Sergei Shoigu at a meeting with authorized representatives of Russian President Vladimir Putin. This suggests that, in his opinion, most of all our army needs scientists and teachers. The Minister of Defense, of course, knows better who is lacking in the army in the first place. But let's try to look at this problem through the eyes of a non-faculty reserve officer.

And we will cut anyone

Zigzags of personnel policyFor the sake of justice, large-scale reforms touched not only military science and specialized universities. Were reduced or merged into one whole district, the types and types of troops, associations and formations, not to mention the individual military units. "Rezili", as often happens with us, in a hurry, for a living, sometimes completely thoughtless, with the result that many full-time officer positions are significantly reduced. Sometimes it seemed that the purpose of such a reform was not to reduce, but to destroy the backbone of the army - the officer corps and its spirit. The absurdity of the situation resembled the old army proverb: “We will understand it as it should be: we will punish anybody and reward someone”, with the only exception that we have reduced, maybe, anyone, but we left it in the service. In many cases, under the specious pretext of organizational and staff measures, the bosses simply settled scores with objectionable subordinates, extracting their own benefit from this.

In this way, many thoughtful and most principled people who had their own opinion, which did not always coincide with the opinion of the authorities, were expelled from the army. Among them were, for example, the well-known and popular in the army, generals Sergey Makarov (not to be confused with namesake Nikolai) and Anatoly Khrulev, who held senior positions in the North Caucasian Military District who died in the Bose during the period of "forcing Georgia to peace" or Commander-in-Chief of the Navy Vladimir Vysotsky. It is not a great secret that some officers paid for leaving in the army, for the possibility of extending the contract according to the tariffs set by the cleverest personnel officers.

What are you going with, sir? Or I serve ... Ivan Ivanitch!

The most persistent officers, whose posts were not subject to reduction, and those who did not wish to write a report on dismissal, were awaited by “tempting offers” for transferring to remote places or to posts with demotion. Here is a typical история one of these officers - Colonel Vitaly G.

More recently, he headed one of the departments in the management of the power department. After Vitaly had expressed his opinion at the service meeting, which was different from the leading one, the head of the department, General P., in the presence of his fellow servicemen, insulted the officer. The latter, having considerable military experience behind him, serving in special forces and state awards, barely restraining himself, demanded a public apology from the chief, and having received a refusal, suggested the startled general “go out to talk”.

After that, Colonel G. was ordered to the IHC for a medical examination with an in-depth examination by a psychiatrist. And while the combat officer (recognized as fit for health) was in the hospital, his position was reduced. The persuasions to retire did not work, and then Vitaly was offered to take the vacant post of deputy commander of the brigade outside the Urals, where he is currently serving, having lost not only the capital, a “warm place in the headquarters”, a substantial cash increase, but also real chances to move. on service.

Another similar case was told by a familiar lawyer. Colonel Victor P. was appointed to the post of commander of one of the units in the Moscow region. It seemed that one should rejoice and thank the fate, and he, when accepting cases and posts, discovered gross violations inherited from the former commander, who contained in the regiment an entire staff of "dead souls". Having shown his principles, the colonel included the flaws in the act and informed the garrison prosecutor's office, which he violated the unwritten taboo - took the rubbish out of the hut. While the prosecutors unleashed the case, the principal prosecutor received a statement appealing against the actions of Colonel P., who had exceeded his authority: acting as the commander of the unit, Victor P. insulted one of his deputies. Currently, the failed commander is at the disposal of the senior commander, continuing to sue his home department.

We have before us only two fates, I suppose, not the worst Russian officers, who cannot be called mediocre personalities. Nevertheless, the service career of both of them was, in fact, marked by a cross. Alas, their stories can not be called atypical. Too much in this way is reduced to bills with disagreeable, recalcitrant officers who put their honor above the parochial and mercantile interests and ... who did not find support from senior commanders. Their examples served as a clear lesson to hundreds of their colleagues: behave yourself quietly, as part of a game set not by you, but if you twitch you will lose everything.

Is it any wonder after this that as a result of such personnel decisions in the chairs of various kinds of commanders and chiefs, it was not by chance that people learned the golden rule of the army careerist - the commander is always right and there is no more important task than to fulfill the order in time, accurately and in time (request ) a superior.

Subordination in the army is paramount, but when legal respect and honoring are replaced by personal loyalty, and decisions are not driven by sensible initiative and a sense of responsibility, and fear of not pleasing the authorities and fear of losing their armchair through this, such “subordination” causes obvious damage to service . So it turns out that, saying proudly: “I serve Russia!”, In fact, such officers are more likely to serve (or, more precisely, serve) to their boss.

The military should not be afraid of responsibility

Probably, there is a higher sense in this “high cadre policy”, which is most likely to protect oneself from unpredictable and too charismatic subordinates from whom one can expect anything. It is much calmer for the authorities when it is confident in its officers, knowing that they will not blurt out too much in front of the camera of the television reporter and do not make rash, unauthorized actions, be it a shot at Pristina, Tskhinval, or the height of Ulus-Kert combat grenade fallen at the feet of subordinates.

However, few of the conductors of this policy are aware that depriving an officer of such qualities as independence, initiative, is like death for him. “Among the fighting qualities of every military man, especially commanders, there should be an initiative ... not a single commander, no matter how low a level ... he can hold, cannot be deprived of the right to use it,” emphasized the famous Russian military scientist and writer, the author of many works, General Lieutenant Alexey Bayov. But it is precisely sensible initiative that, more than ever, is lacking today the army suffocating from lack of professionalism and mired in pretense. Just as lethal for an officer is his unwillingness to assume responsibility, loss of taste for her, as another Russian military scientist believed, a member of the Russian-Japanese, First World, Civil Wars major general Vladimir Domanevsky. In his work “The Essence of Command,” he wrote: “One of the highest qualities of a superior is the willingness to take responsibility.” Contrary to the assertion of another well-known domestic military journalist and scholar Colonel of the General Staff Yevgeny Messner: “The officer should not be afraid of responsibility, but should love it,” many of the current bosses are exactly the opposite afraid of her as a fire and in every way avoid taking the initiative, signing in fact about their professional incapacity .

Here is a typical example from television news about a year ago. When ammunition began to be torn in one of the garrisons, a panic arose, but the evacuation of the town’s inhabitants was, in effect, led by the company commander’s families. The head of the garrison, the commander of that part, left the dangerous place among the first.

Honor above all!

If we recall the biographies of outstanding Russian and Soviet officers, we will see that their official path was not at all covered with roses. Brilliant Suvorov was subjected to slander, slander, disgrace, and even resignation many times. In fact, his pupil, the future participant of the Patriotic War and chief of staff Mikhail Kutuzov, and later the pro-consul of the Caucasus, Alexei Yermolov, was under arrest for several years. And at the peak of his military and diplomatic successes, Alexei Petrovich fell victim to palace intrigues and was generally dismissed. The best Stalinist marshals, admirals and generals, participants of the Great Patriotic War: Rokossovsky, Kuznetsov, Meretskov, Gorbatov, Lizyukov and others were repressed and arrested in their time.

Few of the outstanding military leaders were denounced by denunciations and related troubles in the service, caused by the main human passions: envy, resentment, lust for power or a feeling of revenge. However, these ineradicable defects in human nature were regulated by a number of restraining balances. One of them - the officers 'meeting and the court of officers' honor, is fraught with serious consequences in the form of a duel duel, and from the Soviet period they include the party meeting, which, on the one hand, played the role of an exhaust valve, and on the other - could seriously damage a career presumptuous commander.

Note that the autocrats, chiefs in the army and the highest echelons of power was always enough, but, I repeat, there was also enough counterbalance to tyranny.

Before all the army ... I beg your pardon

Much less is known about such actions in the imperial, pre-revolutionary period. Taking this opportunity, I would like to fill this gap, paying attention to the relations between the glavkoverkhas with unprecedented rights, in the role of which were crowned heads, and their subordinates - people of noble rank brought up in honor understanding. Here is an example when the use of the Fatherland overcame the fear of one of the court dignitaries to incur royal disgrace.

Empress Catherine II, famous for her unbalanced character, unaware of the Swedish king’s intention to declare war on Russia, ordered to send most fleet in the Mediterranean and did not want to hear anything about the machinations of the Swedes. There were few people who wanted to convince her of the cancellation of this criminal order. But the honor and glory of the Fatherland were still incredibly higher, and one of the courtiers, Field Marshal Count Musin-Pushkin, took the liberty to convince the royal woman of the mistake of her decision. It cost him dishonor and insults, but acted in the right way. Thanks to the canceled order in time, the fleet was abandoned in the Baltic and the war that began with Sweden (1788-1790) was successfully won by Russia.

Here is the story of the reign of Emperor Paul, who was famous for his temper. Summoning Prosecutor General Obolyaninov to his office, the angry monarch demanded that he immediately arrest the state treasurer, Baron Vasilyev, for allegedly embezzling four million rubles. Knowing the latter as an honest and decent person, the prosecutor general tried to stand up for his comrade, but Paul, angry, interrupted him, grabbed his breasts and even threw him against the wall. Outright, the attorney general began to silently recite a departure prayer, but Paul quickly took possession of himself and asked why he stood up for the treasurer.

- I know him and I am sure that he is incapable of a mean business.

“But here’s his report: look, there are four million missing here!”

The Procurator General, putting the honor of a person known to him above his career, and possibly freedom, asks the emperor for a couple of hours to hear and finds out that the report was correct, and four million were missed in it at the direction of Paul himself and included in a special article. Documents confirming these words are presented. What is Paul? Realizing his guilt, he brings the subject of an apology, and Baron Vasilyev favors a high award and 500 souls of serfs. For honesty and loyalty. By the way, in the future, Count Vasiliev, thanks to these qualities, becomes under Alexander I the Minister of Finance of the Empire. And on account of the principled procurator-general, rescued souls and other statesmen of Pavlov's reign.

The absolute majority of Russian monarchs, not deprived of a sense of nobility and brought up in the traditions of chivalry and Christian morality, when they found themselves wrong, did not disdain to offer apologies to their subjects, including doing so, if circumstances required, in public. During the reign of Nikolai Pavlovich, the conspiracy of the Petrashevists' revolutionary circle was uncovered. Among others, he was arrested and imprisoned in the fortress and the staff captain of the Leibeger Regiment of Lviv. At the first interrogation, it turned out that he was arrested by mistake and released. Soon after, a parade was held, at which the sovereign was present. When the legebn keeper was passing in front of him, he stopped the regiment and announced in a thunderous voice, addressing the officer: “Headquarters captain Lviv! You were mistakenly suspected of a state crime. I beg your pardon before the whole army and the people. ”

Alas, in later times, the commander-in-chief somehow didn’t go down to such trifles. Today, for those who consider themselves offended there is a court and a charter; however, not every general or officer will consider it possible to achieve in this way satisfaction for the protection of his honor in people deprived of this quality due to a natural absence.

Take care of the officer

Former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov did, it seems, everything to remove the most active and active from the army, eradicating even the thought of some kind of initiative, without which the officers would turn into clerks and Chaldeans. The current military leadership of the country has made the “amendment to the wind”, and today several key figures have already been returned to service - the same inconvenient earlier Makarov, Khrulev, Vysotsky. But, in my subjective opinion, to protect from unscheduled reductions and to return to the system it is necessary first of all not only the color of science and education, as well as popular commanders, but also military officers with the necessary professional qualities: independence, initiative, willingness to take responsibility, endurance and high moral qualities: nobility, dignity, honor, which teachers of high schools must educate and develop.

“Take care of the officer. For from century to now he stands faithfully and permanently on guard of Russian statehood ... ”- these words of Anton Denikin, spoken by him at the first All-Russian officers meeting in May 1917, on the eve of the October revolution, are particularly relevant in our time, which will show whether Army, officer corps to restore its potential. Much depends on the solution of this problem.
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  1. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 31 July 2013 08: 54 New
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    I do not like all this: we will return ... Who will we return? Who will decide: this one is an OFFICER and useful in the army, and that one is an officer and is not needed there? The diseased structure is not able to make an effective decision. You need to start from the head. And smart people in the army and so will be pulled - if the conditions are.
    1. il grand casino
      il grand casino 31 July 2013 10: 13 New
      +8
      The question is also who wants to return. Talented people will find themselves around.
      1. Gari
        Gari 31 July 2013 10: 27 New
        +4
        “Take care of the officer. For from century to the present, he has stood faithfully and invariably on guard of Russian statehood ... ”- these are the words of Anton Denikin, uttered by him at the first All-Russian officer meeting in May 1917
        Everything is exactly the Officer. Serves not for fear, but for conscience.
        Faith and Truth.
      2. Very old
        Very old 31 July 2013 16: 34 New
        +3
        Very many can not be returned. We were mistaken. Yes, and just grown into a new business, where there is something to put knowledge, experience, and no longer come off
      3. AVV
        AVV 31 July 2013 16: 57 New
        +3
        Destroy not build! Serdyukov is an enemy of the people, and it must not be judged for what he stole, although for this too, but for the destruction of entire schools, academies, colleges, military divisions, towns! He destroyed what Westerners did not could have destroyed, even in the dashing 90s! Here it’s not just one lifetime that shines!
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 1 August 2013 05: 15 New
          0
          "Serdyukov is an enemy of the people, and he should not be judged for what he stole, although for that too, but for the destruction of entire schools, academies, schools, military divisions, towns! He destroyed what Westerners could not destroy, even in the dashing 90s! "
          AVV  Yesterday, 16:57 ↑


          Totally agree!
          The only question is who will judge him if those who put him to this post remain in power and continue to “steer” the state.
          Putin and Medvedev support Serdyukov and argue that the "reform" of the army took place correctly, it remains only to "polish the reform" and everything will be fine.
          How to understand all this?
          Only in such a way that this is the supreme power of Russia led by Putin and Medvedev carried out these "reforms" to destroy the army. There is no other way to explain.
    2. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 31 July 2013 16: 53 New
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      Quote: serge-68-68
      And smart people in the army and so will be pulled - if the conditions are.

      Yes, the trouble of our army, especially in the middle link is low professionalism ... the "gardening" carried out at the end of the "zero" years did not yet give the desired result ... It takes time. "Young and promising" had to learn from experienced pros ... but how ... if they were all dispersed ... and self-education is not always good ...
      God grant that smart people would return to the army!
    3. valokordin
      valokordin 31 July 2013 17: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: serge-68-68
      I do not like all this: we will return ... Who will we return? Who will decide: this one is an OFFICER and useful in the army, and that one is an officer and is not needed there? The diseased structure is not able to make an effective decision. You need to start from the head. And smart people in the army and so will be pulled - if the conditions are.

      It is true Sergey, 100% true, Taburetkin blindly followed the instructions of the commander-in-chief, by the principle he gave the command, and executed it like an elephant in a china shop. (make a fool to pray and he will break his forehead) An ugly bourgeois situation has been created in the Army. You are my boss. I’m the boss, in my head it’s not honor and dignity, but the thought of where to cut the dough and to whom to please. There are officers who have saved the honor, but they are silent or sitting in a jail, like the major who talked about feeding canines to soldiers, sat down for allegedly beating ensigns a year ago, a pilot from the Lipetsk Center, who spoke about the requisitions of commanders. I remember at an officer meeting in February 1968, when I was young, I made a remark to the deputy chief (now dead) for his public insults of officers with swearing, after which he went on the same rank for 7 years. Well, this passed, although he did not repeat this anymore, but he ate me for a long time and even tested it, but he did not receive open support from his colleagues. But he respected himself.
  2. Orik
    Orik 31 July 2013 09: 05 New
    +7
    This problem is not only in the military department, but Serdyukovism is only an opaeosis of the Soviet system. Think about it, after all, someone appointed these tyrants of higher superiors earlier, as well as Serdyukov himself.
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 31 July 2013 09: 23 New
      +9
      Quote: Orik
      Serdyukovism is only an opoeosis of a system still Soviet.

      How is this?
      Quote: Orik
      after all, someone appointed these tyrants of higher superiors earlier, as did Serdyukov himself.

      For example, Putin appointed Serdyukov. And almost 25 years have passed since Soviet times. And almost all the "higher tyrants" nominated by the already new capitalist democratic Russia.
      1. Orik
        Orik 31 July 2013 09: 49 New
        +2
        How? My father, a career officer, left the army as an old man in the 60s, putting a military and Komsomol ticket on the table. In the civil service, despite the lack of partisanship, he held high positions. The main reason for leaving, tyranny of the bosses. Later, being at the training camp, when all the mushrooms were collected and all the vodka was drunk. He turned to the regiment with a request to release him 2 days earlier because there was a ticket to the sanatorium. This "commander" took his father and went with him to the headquarters of the division. They came to the deputy commander, father was left in the waiting room, and the polkan came in, reported and asked, can I let the major go earlier from the training camp? The deputy commissar shouted at him saying what the hell you need him for and why you got into trouble with this question, let this major go where he wants. When they walked back, father could not stand it and says, you’re a regiment under the command of 1000 people, what will you do if a missile hits your pentagon ?! smile Once again, this happened even with the advice and puppy enthusiasm for the Soviet subject yesterday is not appropriate here.
        An existing system has the ability to continue itself in any system. Changing the mentality is a very difficult and lengthy task, even when it is being solved. The Russian army was formed on the basis of the army of the USSR and all diseases smoothly passed, moreover, in the conditions of the degradation of all institutions of society, when personal egoism becomes a priority of state policy, only a further deterioration of the situation occurs and so on until the crisis. The childish, black and white perception here is a bad adviser and assistant.
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 31 July 2013 10: 50 New
          +7
          Quote: Orik
          The Russian army was formed on the basis of the army of the USSR and all diseases smoothly passed,

          I don’t argue with this. The Soviet army was not perfect, I myself served, but Serdyukovism has nothing to do with the Soviet army system. This is a separate phenomenon, pre-planned and implemented. And billions of theft are just a kind of payment for services in this matter. So that white is white, and black is black. And one should not make direct Serdyukov’s betrayal supposedly rooted in the Soviet army system.
          1. Orik
            Orik 31 July 2013 11: 13 New
            +7
            If we consider Serdyukov separately, it does not. If you look at the army has. There will always be people like Makarov, who are ready to please eat, served lizoblubski, and give a damn about defense. Moreover, these macarkins will leave the same lysooblyudy, thereby reproducing the system. This is an old law for positive qualities, when the boss cannot take on a subordinate stronger than himself. And for negative qualities, the law works the other way around; a slime-digger will take an even bigger slime-look, a fool. Indeed, against his background, the chef looks much more spectacular.
            By and large, Serdyukov is just a dumb performer of Putin’s will, and everything else is a system of power when the worst, not the best, are selected. The criterion for selection is not the quality of the tasks, but personal devotion and the ability to carry a suitcase where necessary.
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 31 July 2013 14: 15 New
              +7
              Quote: Orik
              The criterion for selection is not the quality of the tasks, but personal devotion and the ability to carry a suitcase where necessary.

              True remark. And in the appendage is my favorite photo about the suitcase.
              By inheritance from Sobchak.
              1. military
                military 1 August 2013 09: 09 New
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                Quote: baltika-18
                And in the appendage is my favorite photo about the suitcase.

                this is NOT IT! ... this is a man who looks like HIM! ... wink laughing
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 1 August 2013 01: 58 New
        +3
        Quote: baltika-18
        almost all the "highest tyrants" nominated by the already new capitalist democratic Russia.

        1. The army is the pillar of any society. They defeated the CPSU, the Councils of Deputies. And that, the Army will be left untouched during the transition to a new cap. system? This does not happen. Moreover, it, as an institution of the state, before the creation of the stratum of the bourgeois, was mortally dangerous to the new government. T.K. it was in the Army that the most strong-willed, capable people remained, who could lead the revenge. (Rokhlin and K *). The task is to remove from the weapons and forces of leaders with principles and faith in whom the future of the country is. So the supporters of the idea flew overboard, and at the same time those who were objectionable.
        2. But the Army turned out to be a tough nut: none of the top leadership agreed to cut the officer corps alive. They found an effective manager, senior engineer of the reserve, who did not serve in the army and did not have an idea of ​​officer honor and conscience. They gave me the MO apparatus (I won’t remember anyone digging around by this time) and set the task: cut, but feed the others. They raised the money content, they began to give apartments and the like, however they didn’t forget themselves, their loved ones, by launching grunts into the state feeder head over heels.
        So, talking about Serdyukov as an officer is nonsense. This is a businessman of a new wave, without principles.
        3. There is no doubt that he acted in full carte blanche. He would have been a little smarter, more modest, and less loving, if he would have become the Hero of Russia, like N. Makarov’s NHS.
        But, snickering, over the top and ran into! However, apparently he will not be judged for all the arts. (“He knew too much!” C). Then, "they don’t surrender"!
        4. About the return o / s.
        Not enough l-tov - captains. At the top, everyone sits tightly and cohesively, figs wake up. And the senior and senior officers who left for civilian life (people with brains, undermined health and soaked nerves) again, are unlikely to go to a new madhouse.
        5. About the education system.
        The commander (officer) brings up a word, deed, personal example. The main thing is that he himself was brought up and convinced of the rightness of the cause, which serves.
        6. About unity of command, discipline and own opinion.
        The fleet is strong traditions, therefore, apparently, the most conservative. The wardroom is a brilliant invention of our predecessors. Here everyone is free to express their opinion, but only until the commander has made a decision. After that, in strong crews, all officers carry out the decision of the commander in life. Differently nelya - SEA of mistakes and tears do not forgive.
        I do not like the Yankees, but the system of work with personnel is excellent, there is something to learn, although the school of Dragomirov and S.O. Makarov does not need to be forgotten. IMHO.
        1. strange and pretty meaningless
          strange and pretty meaningless 1 August 2013 03: 57 New
          +1
          Good detailed comment +
          Quote: BoA KAA
          School of Dragomirov and S.O. Makarov is not necessary to forget
          That's the thing - nothing changes. How many enemies Admiral Makarov had was a talk in the town. Embody at least part of his proposals before Tsushima - how would things come out ..? The same “soft” armor-piercing charges ... The author accurately painted about a system of counterweights to eternal human vices that worked in the Soviet army. I read Lunin's memoirs, his words fully confirm the idea. The burrowing commander-tyrant could be pulled from ANY position. All in the name of defense. Now the situation with the leading cadres is gum. Recall the words of General Shamanov - about the percentage of "parquet" and military generals. And after smerdyakova it became even worse. It is already quite visible - why did Stalin conduct such personnel “training” before the war, cutting out the heroes of police operations - the Yakirs-Uborevichs-Tukhachevs.
          The current "king" in his army "policy" is like a balancer in a bath, balancing on a bar of soap. Prankish partners are just waiting for a mistake, pushing everything together ... In the third term, the appointed Radiant Watchman finally realized that the loot would have to be protected not only from angry and robbed people, but also from "business partners". Uncle Sam is already nervously patting a club in the palm of his hand ... Or bankruptcy - or War.
          But what’s interesting is that the newly-made "owners" of factories, plants and ships do not at all share the "preparatory kipzh". Moreover - they plan to “grab” one last thing. Once by mouth - once. Sing ... And - to rest. And you, dear natives, play with old toys. Well, or take off for new ones.
          Sadly it will all end. And for "them" - well, it’s not a pity - for Us. Toys have become too painful.
      3. military
        military 1 August 2013 09: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: baltika-18
        Serdyukov Putin appointed for example.

        it’s custom for apologists to bypass this circumstance by default ... wink
  3. deman73
    deman73 31 July 2013 09: 12 New
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    As Stalin said, the cadres decide everything, and we have just a few of them, and not only in the army but also in other structures, and this is having a very bad effect on the country. Now we have slobber and thieves in high esteem.
  4. treskoed
    treskoed 31 July 2013 09: 26 New
    +5
    that depriving an officer of such qualities as independence, initiative, like death for him

    Unfortunately, this happened to the officer corps ... It is regrettable, but the past cannot be returned ...
  5. creak
    creak 31 July 2013 09: 43 New
    +5
    it is not very clear why the transfer from the capital to the troops means the loss of the ability to advance in the service? My deceased father, being a career officer, wandered around the garrisons in different parts of the Union and the family lived with him and in Moscow only during his studies at the academy. According to the author, a full-fledged career is possible only in Moscow at headquarters and transfer to a remote garrison is almost a tragedy? In this case, I do not touch on the ethical side of the relationship between commander and subordinate. By the way, in the Russian Imperial Army, officers who served in headquarters and military educational institutions after a certain time had to be transferred to the troops for command of combat units.
    1. maxvik
      maxvik 31 July 2013 12: 07 New
      +2
      It’s difficult to grow up everywhere now, because we cut regular grids.
  6. IRBIS
    IRBIS 31 July 2013 10: 46 New
    +9
    One example. Now there is a system of mortgage lending for military personnel. Everything seems to be right and good, but ... When receiving a mortgage, the officer sits on the "leash" of the loan. In the event of his dismissal, a loan with sharply higher interest, he will have to pay himself. And now we have a wordless, absolutely dependent on tyranny of the bosses, the officer. Now expressing their opinions, different from the commander, has become even more expensive than before.
    This is me, for example, on the education of officers and the attitude of the state towards him.
  7. Alekseev
    Alekseev 31 July 2013 10: 50 New
    0
    Everything is written by the author of the article correctly. But ... what to do? To return to operation stupidly dismissed by the feldmebel? Well, someone, probably, is possible.
    But, in general, it is necessary to create a system of the strictest personal responsibility of commanders (chiefs) for the business entrusted to them. A system in which you cannot hold a high position without creating a team of highly competent and morally worthy assistants. immediate and not quite. Though fundamental, "inconvenient", but appropriate to the position held. After all, you can’t rely on the soft! And you take the “thieves,” or the sneak, or the “right ones,” and you burned yourself! Why did you take it, yes! wassat
    The creation of such a system should be based on an objective and uncompromising verification of the true state of affairs in parts. It is necessary to introduce the qualification of seniority, ceteris paribus when appointing to higher posts, so that, like flies for honey, "young and gifted general sons" (or Perdyukov women) do not go there. And a lot of good (and very famous) things to remember and revive from the glorious history of our army. Not only the “oaks" and corrupt officials have always led it. There were Suvorovs, Kutuzovs, and Rokossovskys.
  8. runway
    runway 31 July 2013 11: 30 New
    +2
    What is impossible to agree with is the author’s statement: "Later, these figures were corrected several times, and now after the statement by the Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu about his intention to return to the army the officers dismissed under his predecessor, to get an exact answer to the question, how many officers are actually in the service of the Russian Armed Forces, it seems very difficult "
    The number of officers (up to a man) is under the jurisdiction of the General Directorate of Personnel of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the Main Organizational and Mobilization Department of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Whether this information is “closed” is highly doubtful. Just in order to hear a reasoned answer, you need to correctly set it to the competent authority angry
  9. s1н7т
    s1н7т 31 July 2013 12: 48 New
    +2
    The author himself mentally waved: "The Minister of Defense, of course, knows better who is primarily lacking in the army." laughing
  10. fight
    fight 31 July 2013 14: 46 New
    +8
    He retired with the rank of captain (organizational staff). I think that I was a useful officer, a specialist in my field. In civilian life, I did not disappear and hold a high leadership position. Will I be back? And what will all the sensible dismissed guys answer? I'm sure no one was lost))))
    1. velikoros-xnumx
      velikoros-xnumx 31 July 2013 16: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: luta
      In civilian life, I did not disappear and hold a high leadership position. Will I be back? And what will all the sensible dismissed guys answer? I'm sure no one was lost))))

      Happy for you. Of course, smart, energetic people who can quickly make decisions and take responsibility for them will not disappear anywhere. But it is precisely these qualities that a real officer should possess. It is very unfortunate that the reform in the army has removed, basically, the very best (there are many military friends and I know this firsthand, by the way, as you say, everyone has found themselves well on the "citizen"). But all the same, I stubbornly believe if there will be a healthy atmosphere in the army and in the country's leadership, if attractive conditions will be created not only in words, but in fact many real OFFICERS will return to the army. Why? But because there is such a profession - to defend the homeland.
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 31 July 2013 16: 22 New
        +5
        Quote: velikoros-xnumx
        But I still stubbornly believe that if the army and the country's leadership have a healthy atmosphere, if attractive conditions are created not just in words, but in fact, many of the real OFFICERS will return to the army.

        Most likely - will not return. Because practically nothing has changed and is not going to change. In the meantime, conditions will be created, many will be so many years old that returning will lose its meaning.
  11. Druid
    Druid 31 July 2013 16: 13 New
    +5
    Quote: luta
    Will I be back? And what will all the sensible dismissed guys answer? I'm sure no one was lost))))
    Any educated and sensible officer will not be lost in civilian life, but the army will have no such kirdyk, but it's pointless to discuss it - the fish rots from the head.
    This is the scourge of all the armies of the former USSR, not only Russian. Officers with combat experience, as soon as the war was over, were quietly pushed and the spines and sons, as well as the in-law of the stealing generals, were thrown forward.
  12. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 31 July 2013 16: 44 New
    +5
    What goals and objectives did the army and navy have before the beginning of the 90s - "Everything that is created by the people must be reliably protected!"
    What goals and objectives did the army and navy have after the mid-90s - "Everything created by the people and successfully plundered - must be reliably protected from the ragged people - the creator!"
    And this provided that the rank and file began to replenish at the expense of even more marginal conscripts - only workers and peasants .... the social stratification of society has grown significantly. The officers, pupils of the 70-80s, the organizing base and directing force of the Army and Navy, their subordinates to defend the Abramovichs ... Chubais ... and other "new" Russian lucky ones will lead. I doubt it. The leaders of RUSSIA doubted this. Even under the “Tsar Everlasting” the first attempts to create a new army began, but the war in Chechnya did not allow .. In the middle of the zero years, they began to carry out this on a full scale. And experienced officers, carriers of the same socialist ideology from the army, rained down ... a slender crowd of demobilization.
    Here is the explanation of all the zigzags of personnel policy ... more precisely, just one turn in the opposite direction.
  13. kind
    kind 31 July 2013 16: 50 New
    +3
    Former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov seems to have done everything to remove the most active and active from the army, even eradicating thoughts of some initiative, without which officers turn into clerks and Chaldeans.

    Now these Serdyukovskie opportunists and Licking, already in full swing their former benefactor, and when they ask why they were silent before, their eyes are on the floor. I see the most worthless officers (who had to be driven in three necks from the army) in decent posts at headquarters.
  14. michajlo
    michajlo 31 July 2013 19: 02 New
    +2
    Quote: Orik
    If we consider Serdyukov separately, it does not. If you look at the army has. There will always be people like Makarov, who are ready to please eat, served lizoblubski, and give a damn about defense. Moreover, these macarkins will leave the same lysooblyudy, thereby reproducing the system. This is an old law for positive qualities, when the boss cannot take on a subordinate stronger than himself. And for negative qualities, the law works the other way around; a slime-digger will take an even bigger slime-look, a fool. Indeed, against his background, the chef looks much more spectacular.
    By and large, Serdyukov is just a dumb performer of Putin’s will, and everything else is a system of power when the worst, not the best, are selected. The criterion for selection is not the quality of the tasks, but personal devotion and the ability to carry a suitcase where necessary.

    Good day to all!
    I agree with the quoted forum users and other similar opinions! The author of the article is a big plus!
    It is possible to look differently at the INCORPOSITES described in the article regarding the outstanding and having their own personal concept of duty and honor, officers, and propose different or similar methods to overcome the bad legacy of the SA and democratic decades, the opinions of such officers and those who know the whole thing of the officer service are especially valuable.
    But if the the whole selection system is sick of fundamental and the fate of a serious and responsible officer, and not a superior officer, depends only on whether he had the happiness of a decent and principled commander, then this is a matter of seams.
    As already mentioned here, former officers with a long service experience who directly and encourage the lack of supervision of military leaders in the Russian army are the overwhelming majority.
    Any officer who darts around the garrisons and supports his family (since the officer’s wife is hard to find work) is very and very difficult at the present time. Well, if it also depends on the whim of the direct boss, because the country and the legislation do not protect him, and in the current commercial and democratic life other qualities help that a decent officer should NOT have!
    How to return to the army those who are not afraid to give their lives on the battlefield and who will not needlessly risk the lives of their soldiers, and how to expel all fat officers, generals and officials from the army and the Defense Ministry, many of whom have attached military awards on their jackets, although they themselves did not participate in any battle.
    Moreover, regarding the awards, where did the Minister of Defense himself, comrade Shoigu? I did not hear that he fought somewhere and led the soldiers. Or else the leadership of the Ministry of Emergencies and the personal devotion of Comrade. GDP - are the basis for receiving Russian military awards?
    And then in real life in the Russian army it turns out, as one Slovak proverb says: "Fish always rot from the head, but they clean it from the tail."
    And according to the logic of things that rarely happens in life, one would have to "rotten fish clean from the head "!
    1. military
      military 1 August 2013 11: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: michajlo
      And according to the logic of things that rarely happens in life, one should "rotten fish from the head"!

      "rotten fish" should not be cleaned at all ... its place in a landfill ... a landfill of history ...
  15. tank64rus
    tank64rus 31 July 2013 19: 13 New
    +7
    Previously, officers were brought up on communist ideology. She was bad or good, but the whole world was shaking before this Army. Now there is no ideology. Trying to raise money does not work. After all, these are Russian people and they will not fight for money. And lizoblyudy and vertebrates do not go on the attack wrecking in the headquarters. These are the problems.
  16. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 31 July 2013 19: 14 New
    0
    Quote: tank64rus
    Previously, an officer was brought up on communist ideology. She was bad or good, but the whole world was shaking before this Army. Now there is no ideology. Trying to raise money does not work. After all, these are Russian people and they will not fight for money. And lizoblyudy and vertebrates do not go on the attack wrecking in the headquarters. These are the problems.

    Idiology has nothing to do with a man who loves his homeland.
    1. Misantrop
      Misantrop 31 July 2013 20: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: tilovaykrisa
      Idiology has nothing to do with a man who loves his homeland.

      Oh, how simple it is ... what And what does this mean by this concept, a country, region or your village to the outskirts? Ask about the homeland of the zapadent, the Chechen field commander, the great patriot of the USSR Vakhtang Kikabidze ... Any of them will surely turn out to be such a patriot that there are nowhere to put the samples. Which is characteristic, while not ceasing to be a mortal enemy of the country that nurtured and raised him. And if you take from the same edges, but only younger, then those with the Motherland are even simpler - where there are plenty of gray-green rectangular pieces of paper you can get, without really bothering. For today he is a patriotic fighter to the limit, and tomorrow - ... request
  17. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 31 July 2013 20: 18 New
    +2
    Quote: tilovaykrisa
    Idiology has nothing to do with a man who loves his homeland.

    All the same, I think love for the motherland does not fall from heaven. First, she is brought up, we all come from childhood, as they say, then it would be nice to support (everything flows and changes, and a person happens too). The ideology (in this case we speak of the abstract) of the state plays an important role in these processes.
  18. piter-tank
    piter-tank 31 July 2013 20: 21 New
    +2
    Tsmtata: "... Among them were, for example, well-known and popular in the army generals Sergey Makarov (not to be confused with namesake Nikolai) and Anatoly Khrulev, ..."
    A wonderful article, but the author clearly went too far with Khrulev. This "military leader" must be kept further from the troops, and preferably under a vigilant "sovereign's eye."
  19. Consul-t
    Consul-t 31 July 2013 22: 16 New
    +1
    This problem is not only in the army, but also in civilians in warm places in administrations, in large factories their people are sitting.
    If you try to express your opinion, or disagree with the decision of the leadership, you will have to look for work.
    And the fact that this decision is harmful to the company and the owner cannot always find out about it is not important.
    The appointed director clearly observes his territory.
  20. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 1 August 2013 01: 56 New
    +2
    To come back or not to come back, is that the question?
    And I think many who have gone into the reserve because of the "reforms" of the stool are asking this question.
    I decided for myself, I won’t return at least until the world is outside.
    Will the country be in danger then yes.