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Hero of Egypt



Kutintsev.

It was a legendary person. His portraits and a brief description of the feat hung on special tablets in all Leninist rooms of our “Grechitsko - Burgundy” brigade.
No joke - get the title of Hero of the Soviet Union in 1971 year !!! For the entire post-war period “before Afghan”, units in the Soviet Army received the title of Hero, and in all the Air Defense Forces - only TWO people. One of them was Kutintsev.
I must say that the title of Hero then gave very sparingly. Many "pvoshnikov" fought in Vietnam during the period of the American bombing of this country. We knew the officers of the guidance and commanders of divisions, shot down a dozen and a half American planes. They were “Heroes of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam”, but in the Soviet Union they were given orders of the Red Banner, very rarely - Lenin. The title of “Heroes” in the Vietnam War was not appropriated to our officers. All the more glory was Kutintseva.
We happened to serve along with those officers who knew him personally and participated in the famous battles with aviation Israel in Egypt in 1970-1973. The legend of Kutyntsev’s exploit without a formal gloss in our brigade sounded like this.

Major Kutintsev was the commander of the most "heavy", 8 division of the brigade. Our brigade was deployed from the regiment to the fighting force during the 1968 events of the year. Then, in one night, they were “thrown out” into combat positions and deployed along the coast of the Gulf of Finland 6 of the C-125 “Neva” battalions.
Needless to say, after that, officers and soldiers lived there for years, in dugouts and tents, gradually building barracks, canteens, dos and so on. the notorious "hapspous".
Especially difficult for life was the location of the 8 division. He was on the Kurgolovskom Peninsula. Its combat position was simply magnificent and allowed us to confidently detect and fire low-altitude targets over the Gulf of Finland. The conditions of service and life, even for the unbalanced Air Defense Forces of the country, were difficult, both for the soldiers and for the officers and their families.
Even 10 years later, when we already served in the brigade, he remained the most difficult division in the domestic sense. Water comes from the well (in winter they punched a hole in it with an “ice pick” so that the bucket could crawl through), the toilet was on the street, the light was often from diesel engines, and when there was little diesel left, electricity was given only to ensure the operation of military equipment. Gas cylinders were taken from the location of the brigade, for a hundred kilometers. In general, the full range of "pleasures" in 200 kilometers from Leningrad. Those who served there even paid 15% wage premium, “for wildness”.
"Officers triathlon - firewood, water, slop" mastered there all the families of officers and ensigns.
In 1970, when Kutintsev was in command there, the living conditions were even worse. In addition, according to the "good" army tradition, such units were "referred to bringing up" all kinds of "slackers and scoundrels" from the brigade management and more prosperous domestic divisions. These niggards were usually not in a hurry to re-educate themselves and decomposed discipline in the division as they could.
In general, the affairs of Major Kutintsev were going very badly, the state of emergency followed the state of emergency, it smelled of being removed from office ...

Then the Arabs began to try again to fight with Israel. The valiant Jewish pilots once again laid our Arab grief - the allies on the first number, defeating their air defense and air force. Gamal Abdel Nasser (by the way, Khrushchev's Hero of the Soviet Union, if anyone forgot) has already been replaced by Anwar Sadat. He turned to the USSR for help. And we, as always, did not refuse.
On the basis of the Leningrad 6 OA Air Defense, an air defense corps, consisting of our soldiers and officers, was formed and urgently redeployed to Egypt. Recruitment there was also traditional, “voluntarily - compulsory”, although there were no cases of refusals. There was a team to select the "best".
Those who served in the army know how the "best" are selected in it. No commander will not give an unknown to whom a good soldier or officer. From the "honors" - please!
So Kutintsev was invited to talk and offered to go to Egypt. He happily agreed.
They drove off in civilian clothes. In Nikolaev they loaded the equipment onto the tanker and from there to Alexandria.
To accompany the volunteers came personally (not a little more !!!) KOSYGIN Alexey Nikolaevich, Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR with an appropriate retinue. (Can anyone imagine Yeltsin, who came to send troops to Chechnya?!)
Kosygin himself went around the line of those leaving and answered all their questions. The most memorable question he asked Kutintsev.
“Comrade Kosygin, is it possible to postpone deductions from my cash allowance for the missing anamophoric nozzle, worth 570 rubles, until our return from special mission?” Kutintsev asked a question to a member of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee.
Probably, not everyone knows what anamophoric nozzle is? Kosygin did not know this either. He demanded an explanation from the retinue, where, among others, were the Minister of Defense of the USSR and the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Defense Forces of the country.
I will explain the situation. The division commander was (and now, probably, is) financially responsible for all the property of the division. When he "rents" him, he is obliged to report everything on the basis of the inventory, or to pay if something is lost. The devil's head was used on a film projector to show widescreen films and cost a lot of money (the engineer’s monthly salary was about 100 rubles then) because it was a big lens that was made only in the GDR.
Someone from Kutintsev subordinates and stole it (probably, to demonstrate the miracle of optics in his native village, or aul - is unknown). Well, for her absence, they made a cash deduction to the commander with the political officer, so that they would not forget the Homeland beyond the seas - the oceans.
It is not known how Kosygin explained all this, but only after a short conversation with his retinue, Alexey Nikolayevich showed himself to be a fine fellow and assured Kutintsev that all deductions for the unfortunate attachment would be canceled !!! So they performed. The people's commissars of the Stalinist school kept their word, and were able to verify their orders.
So it turned out that Kutintsev, with his political leader, is clean before the Motherland, thanks to Kosygin.

(Another funny episode devoted to the Egyptian epic of the Air Defense Forces, told Mikhalych. His father-in-law also participated in the fighting in Egypt at that time. They carried "volunteers" there, too, from Nikolaev, but they followed without equipment and were transported on a regular ship.
All, of course, dressed in a civilian uniform. Gave the same gray raincoats. The officers were given hats, and the soldiers were berets.
On the boat they followed along with ordinary civilian tourists.
Those were amazed at the strange tourists who disciplinedly went to the reception at the GGS command of the ship broadcast: “Tourists in berets are invited for breakfast!” Or “Tourists in hats, go for lunch!”).

The Russian corps, which arrived in Egypt, however, according to tradition, created “the first pancake is lumpy”. Secretly turned around and stepped on combat duty. (True, the Israeli radio almost in the first day in Russian congratulated our soldiers on their arrival, listing by name the leadership of the corps).
Then our native razdolbaystvo mixed with laziness and disorder of the Arabs, which gave the inevitable result.
The Arabs, accustomed to the impotence of their air defense forces, flew fighters with a defective identification system "friend or foe". Our guardians of the Egyptian sky no one bothered to warn about this.
As a result, on the second day, the division, covering the airfield of Alexandria, discovered the Arabic IL-28, which had landed. Since the target did not respond to the request of the identification system (and on the screen of the indicator, all targets are visible as a small point, according to which their type and state ownership cannot be determined), ours fired at her and shot her down. One pilot died.
Despite the fact that there was no particular fault of our rocket men, a terrible scandal broke out, Sadat called Brezhnev himself, and the entire leadership of the Soviet group received “the very tomatoes”.
It is clear that this did not add anyone mood and morale. The Jews, trained by American pilots, took into account the experience of fighting in Vietnam and fought well.
The lower the plane flies, the harder it is to shoot down, oddly enough. It is very difficult to find a low-flying target, in the zone of fire it is seconds, or even fractions of seconds, the angular velocities of the target are huge, all this prevents firing on such a target.
The Israeli Air Force flew over the Egyptian and Sinai deserts at altitudes 20-50 meters. And often below. It was very difficult to detect, shoot down, or even effectively fire them. The situation was heating up, there was talk among the Arab military that the Russian equipment was bad, since the Russians could not do anything with the Israeli air force. Kutintsev bosses went dark and thoughtful ...
He, in the meantime, observed the flights of Israeli pilots, traveled through the desert on his UAZ and discovered the bed of a dried up river, over which the Israelis flew over the Suez Canal, remaining invisible to our radar stations. He had the idea to organize an ambush there at night.
The command of the anti-aircraft missile brigade, which included the Kutintsev division, agreed with great reluctance to this experiment. In practice, he acted at his own peril and risk. Having trained the calculations to quickly expand and collapse the division, he achieved great success in this, three times overlapping the "excellent" standard. Then I arranged with the Arabs to deploy 3 “false” division of plywood and boards next to his position at night (in this, as well as masking positions, the Arabs were recognized masters).
At night, Kutyntsov advanced the division to the channel, deployed the vehicle and disguised it. Nearby, the Arabs organized false positions with plywood cabins and rocket logs ...
At dawn, the Israeli Skyhawk, a weather scout, appeared. His Kutintsev shot down in the mode of TVK (television channel).
In order not to go into the wilds of air combat tactics, let us briefly note that the main unmasking characteristic of the air defense technology is its radar radiation. It is instantly detected by the instruments on the plane and the corresponding equipment warns the pilot that he is irradiated by a radar station (radar), or SNR (missile guidance station), and he uses maneuver, puts interference, or leaves the affected area, depending on the situation. All this seriously reduces the effectiveness of the shelling. But the mode of the TCE, which Kutintsev used, allows you to fire a visually visible target without turning on the radar, suddenly for the pilot. Blow turns dagger. This is what happened.
The Skyhawk was shot down, and his pilot did not even have time to figure out how.
They did not understand anything at the headquarters of the Israeli Air Force. Their plane just disappeared, the pilot did not report anything about his discovery by the Russians, and there are no Russians there ... Having decided that a flight incident had occurred, the Israelis sent a couple of Phantoms to search for the missing plane and pilot. They were already instructed, and they flew at extremely low altitude.
Kutintsev found this pair and shot at the host. The first rocket struck the "Phantom" and Kutintsev managed to transfer the guidance of the second rocket to the slave. This was a very difficult task, since the C-125 complex, on which Kutintsev fought, allowed simultaneously to fire only one target with two missiles. Fortunately, the "Phantoms" flew nearby, and he managed to transfer the guidance of the second rocket to a nearby target. The second "Phantom" was only shot down. His pilot instantly understood what was going on, left the defeat zone and flew towards the Promised Land, wailing to all Israel about Russian treachery.
Understanding what will happen next, Kutintsev gave the command to the brewers to immediately roll up. "Oryoliki" did not disappoint and turned off the technique, breaking all their own records. After driving away from the ambush site for a dozen kilometers, ours saw how the Israeli Air Force bombed their position and Egyptian plywood mock-ups, wave after wave, trying to avenge their losses ...

Kutintsev returned and reported to the commander about the success. He was praised for good luck, but at first no one gave it much importance. Having redeployed the division at the place of permanent deployment, Kutintsev decided to slightly celebrate the success with his officers, according to Russian custom.
Meanwhile, in the spheres of high politics, passions were already raging. The Israeli Air Force stopped all flights over the Egyptian territory for a month until the reasons for such unheard-of losses were ascertained.
Sadat, who originally learned about his victory from Israeli radio reports, requested confirmation from our commanders. Having received it, Anvar was delighted. He called Brezhnev again and thanked warmly for the heroic deeds. Then he gave the command to immediately deliver to him the commander of the distinguished division.
Kutintsev was literally pulled out of the table and, accompanied by the ambassador of the USSR, presented Sadat. Anwar removed, almost from his chest, some Egyptian order, the size of a frying pan, and covered with diamonds and diamonds. Then he solemnly fastened him on Kutintsev’s chest. There were many warm words and speeches.
Immediately after the release, the ambassador demanded that Kutintsev hand over a diamond griddle to the state, which he did. But since Sadat praised the hero Brezhnev more than once, that too had no choice but to assign Kutintsev the title of Hero of the Soviet Union.
True, this almost prevented a small incident. Immediately from Sadat, Kutintsev returned to the festive table with friends and here they already “gave” as they should, they did not spare the benefit of alcohol for the equipment.
When they began to go to bed, Kutintsev made a remark to his political officer, Major Fokin, that his legs were sweating heavily. Fokin, so that his feet would not sweat, put his feet in the freezer of the refrigerator and fell asleep. Volumes of alcohol consumed, apparently contributed to the adoption of this decision ...
The next morning he discovered that he froze his feet !!! For doctors of the Egyptian hospital, where the victim was urgently brought, such a kind of illness as frostbite was a secret sealed with seven seals.
Even to translate this diagnosis for them was difficult. The freezer was good. It went almost to gangrene. As a result, the major frostbitten in Egypt was sent by plane to the Burdenko Hospital, where our doctors had already saved his legs.

Upon returning to the Union, Kutintsev received the Star of Hero, the rank of colonel and, subsequently, taught at the Kharkov Academy of Engineering Air Defense. In peacetime, the big commander did not work out of it ...
Zampolit, because of the scandalous frostbite, received only the Order of the Red Star. All soldiers and officers of the Kutintsev division received orders and medals.
So told this history veterans of our brigade ...

The saddest thing is that the current army is losing its historical memory and traditions. Friends gave me a colorful album, recently published in a printing house, on expensive paper, for some anniversary of the now united Air Defense Army and the Air Force of Leningrad. I looked at the page dedicated to our “Grechitsko - Burgundy Brigade” and was stunned. The compilers and editors of this gift album managed to never mention Kutintsev - the only Hero of the Soviet Union of our 6 OA Air Defense, who received this title for military exploits in the post-war peacetime period.

Forgot the current fathers - the commanders of the Hero ...
In our time - his portrait and description of the feat hung in each barracks and even the firemen knew about them.
Here is a sad ending to this fun story.


(Chapter from the book “True Bikes of Air Defense Warriors”)
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  1. timhelmet
    timhelmet 1 August 2013 08: 46 New
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    Most of all I liked about the coagulation of ours in the riverbed))).
    All standards have surpassed. laughing
    As in that film: "If you want to live, you will not be so hot."
    1. StolzSS
      StolzSS 2 August 2013 07: 22 New
      +3
      You are ironic in vain. People in such conditions have to work hard to wear out so that there would be a chance to return home ....
    2. S-200
      S-200 6 August 2013 08: 11 New
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      Quote: timhelmet
      Most of all I liked about the coagulation of ours in the riverbed

      I heard that at the same time, the entire divisional cable economy was simply cut with axes without undocking and folding ... good
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 11 August 2013 18: 14 New
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        Quote: S-200
        the entire divisional cable economy was simply cut with axes without undocking and folding ...

        ... to cut the cable in such a situation is mona, in spare parts and accessories, upon arrival at the place of permanent deployment d. spare :)
  2. kotdavin4i
    kotdavin4i 1 August 2013 08: 52 New
    +5
    Strong Russian soldier - fiction and ingenuity !!!
  3. Dymkovsky
    Dymkovsky 1 August 2013 14: 39 New
    +7
    Laughing to tears! Thanks to the author!
  4. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 1 August 2013 15: 40 New
    +4
    The same laughed !! Especially about frostbite in the desert))))
    1. Quiet
      Quiet 30 August 2013 18: 42 New
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      The same laughed !! Especially about frostbite in the desert

      .. and I was amused by the screams of "wounded". Apparently yelling something "Akhtung, Akhtung Pokryshkin in der lyuft (Pokryshkin in the sky)" !!!!! laughing lol
  5. Boricello
    Boricello 1 August 2013 16: 42 New
    +4
    Where is the professor and his favorite "There was no such thing" and "Facts in the studio !!"
  6. faraon
    faraon 2 August 2013 01: 31 New
    +7
    Yes, indeed; while Russia drinks it is not victorious. (Joke)
    yes there were people in our time .......
    So far, such Kutintsevs will be unbeatable in the Russian Army. Only the Russian officer and soldier have such non-standard solutions.
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 2 August 2013 01: 46 New
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      He accomplished his feat far from his homeland, in a time of peace for our country, and became the seventh Ilya - Hero of the USSR. By the way, a long time classified!

      Nikolai Mikhailovich Kutintsev was born in December 1928 in the village of Polyanka. In 1947 he graduated from Ilyinsky high school and chose the military profession for himself.

      In 1954, Nikolai Mikhailovich graduated from the Pushkin Military School, then in absentia - the Air Defense Command Academy. He served as the commander of the anti-aircraft missile battalion in Kingisepp, when he was sent to the training center for training Arab military specialists in the city of Baku.

      It was 1970. In the Middle East, another war broke out between Israel and Egypt. And there, in the zone of military conflict, on the orders of the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Defense Forces, Marshal Batitsky, our fellow countryman was sent, where he took command of a specially formed anti-aircraft missile division.

      This military unit took a position 18 kilometers from the capital of Egypt, the city of Cairo, on the site of a completely defeated Arab military unit. The rockets, painted in the color of the desert, the soldiers installed in a place cleared of corpses and debris of Arab military equipment. In fact, the Soviet anti-aircraft missile division was a group of suicide bombers who were supposed to confront the armada of Israeli "Phantoms" and "Mirages."

      Missiles are the weapons of a collective and very fleeting battle, and on August 1, the division destroyed 16 first-class enemy aircraft during a 11-minute battle. Not a single one broke through to Cairo. Equipped by the order of Kutyntsev, six false positions of Soviet ground-to-air missiles were completely destroyed by American aces. And the main position has survived.

      According to the testimony of Nikolai Mikhailovich, the Russian guys who were holding the defense in Arab sands turned gray in that battle, like himself.

      For merit in fulfilling the international duty and for personal courage, by a decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of August 26, 1970, our fellow countryman was awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union. After returning to his homeland, Nikolai Mikhailovich Kutintsev served in Ukraine in the city of Kharkov.

      More recently, Nikolai Mikhailovich died, but that memorable battle near Cairo will forever remain an example of the courage and stamina of a Russian soldier ...
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 2 August 2013 01: 46 New
        +2
        ...............................
      2. Modus
        3 August 2013 13: 47 New
        +9
        Alexander will comment on your post.
        Believe me, I VERY RESPECT N. Kutyntsev.
        My division commander, at one time was his guidance officer.
        Apparently the one who composed the figures you quoted for the aircraft shot down by Kutyntsev really wanted to "please" his fellow countryman. In this case, it turned out "zeal not according to the mind."
        It is IMPOSSIBLE to shoot down 11 aircraft in 16 minutes neither technically (the S-125 air defense system was ONE CHANNEL on the target) or tactically (for this it is necessary that the enemy planes "train" in turn flew into the zone of destruction of the air defense system, allowing him to capture and fire consistently.
        Among the Jewish pilots (and commanders) there were no such fools.
        As well as they did not have losses of 11 smolets in 1 day. Data on their losses is now declassified.
        The data on the battle given in my story are real.
        The shooting experience of the Kutyntsev’s anti-aircraft missile, in that battle, was specially studied in the air defense forces.
        Of course, his division was not any "suicide bomber".
        In Egypt, then there was a whole Soviet anti-aircraft missile division located.
        Losses among our calculations were, but very small.
        "American aces" did not participate in that battle and did not rush to Cairo.
        My story is comic, set out in the form of a bike circulated in our brigade, but it is based on REAL facts and events.
        Yours faithfully,
      3. Vityaz68
        Vityaz68 15 September 2013 16: 17 New
        +1
        GLORY TO THE HERO !!
  7. individual
    individual 2 August 2013 13: 16 New
    0
    And so the Russian land lives from Rurik to Putin.
    Kings are changing. The plot is one.
    Heroism and a theme for jokes are not inseparable.
  8. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 5 August 2013 09: 10 New
    +4
    smile Frostbite in the desert is great!
    In general, I earnest respect not only the efficiency and mastery of fire work, but (and, perhaps, first of all) - the skill of disguise. To hide such large-sized objects as air defense systems is something!
  9. igor36
    igor36 6 August 2013 08: 59 New
    +2
    This is how a classy specialist manifests itself: an excellent knowledge of technology, the training of subordinates, the use of the terrain, disguise and surprise are the result of a face (in the Sinai desert).
    His example is science to all air defense specialists.
  10. Rus woke up
    Rus woke up 11 August 2013 22: 31 New
    +2
    The story is super. It is a pity the memory of the names is bad. And I will retell this story to friends and laugh, and can I be proud of what?
  11. npv554f
    npv554f 16 August 2013 23: 30 New
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    Quote: Modus
    My story is comic, set out in the form of a bike circulated in our brigade, but it is based on REAL facts and events.

    Dear Sergey (Modus), I understand that the bike is the bike. But you yourself made me answer. You write that "at its core are REAL facts and events." That's about the facts and events - sorry, sheer nonsense. Many of these “facts” raise questions.

    “Gamal Abdel Nasser (by the way, Khrushchev’s Hero of the Soviet Union, if anyone forgot) has already been replaced by Anwar Sadat. He turned to the USSR for help. And we, as always, did not refuse. ”

    In September 1969, the first batches of F-4E Phantom fighter-bombers (Kournass by Israeli classification) began to arrive from the United States. In this situation, G. Nasser found no other way out but to turn to the USSR for direct military assistance. At the beginning of December 1969, he made a secret visit to Moscow for an "important and confidential" conversation with Leonid Brezhnev. In December 1969, in accordance with the decision of the Politburo, Defense Minister Marshal of the Soviet Union A.A. Grechko gave the order to conduct Operation Caucasus,
    President Nasser died on September 28, 1970. Anwar Sadat assumed office after the death of Nasser. By this time, a truce had already been concluded between Egypt and Israel. When did he ask for help? The following joke was fashionable in Egypt in the early 70s. “Shortly after coming to power, Sadat decided to drive around the capital in a presidential car. The car, driven by a driver who still served at Nasser, reached the crossroads. The driver specifies with the president where to turn left or right? “And which way did Nasser choose?” - asks Sadat the driver. “Nasser always drove left,” the driver replied. After thinking about the driver’s response, Sadat ordered: “Turn on the left turn, but go right.” It was because of this turn "to the right," because of cooperation with the United States, that the USSR was forced to curtail its assistance to Egypt.

    «On the basis of the Leningrad 6 OA anti-aircraft defense was formed air defense corps.

    Which case? 6 anti-aircraft missile regiment was formed on the basis of the Leningrad 564th Air Defense OA, which became part of the 18th Air Defense Division. In addition, units from Estonia and the Baku Air Defense District entered this regiment.

    “Recruiting there was also traditional,“ voluntary - compulsory ”, although there were no cases of refusal. There was a team to select the "best."

    Do not put the best word in quotation marks. The selection was very strict: health, moral-military and political qualities, and the 5th questionnaire item also played a role. The slightest remark and the candidate was eliminated. Everyone understood that they were going not to “pancakes to mother-in-law”, but to war, and no one wanted people to die because of one gouging. About the volunteers. I do not know how things were in the second and third divisions, but in the first, indeed, there were only volunteers. Failures, although rare, were. Failure did not cause any consequences. The man went to his former place to continue the service.

    "In Nikolaev loaded equipment on the tanker and from there - to Alexandria."

    How do you imagine that?

    Etc. etc. Throughout the text. In order to refute everything that you wrote, it will take a lot of space and time. I suggest that you yourself go to the website of the Council of War Veterans in Egypt and familiarize yourself with the materials posted there (history of the 18th Air Defense Division, personnel, recollections of participants, etc.). http://www.hubara-rus.ru/index.html

    And the rest, I repeat, the bike is the bike. I would have laughed along with the others, if not for your statement that "at its core are REAL facts and events."

    Sincerely, a participant in the very events that you wrote about.
    1. Modus
      17 August 2013 11: 31 New
      +1
      Since you are a participant in those events and began to seriously disassemble the bike, let's look at your arguments.
      Let's start with a simple one.
      I have emphasized TWICE that this bike and it does not claim to be completely historical. "This is how veterans of our brigade told this story ..." - it is written at the end of the story.
      You, undertaking something already seriously to refute yourself d. flawless.
      And it is not.
      In order:
      What did you dislike about this phrase: "Gamal Abdel Nasser (by the way, Khrushchev's Hero of the Soviet Union, if anyone has forgotten) has already been replaced by Anvar Sadat. He turned to the USSR for help. And we, as always, did not refuse" ?? !! Nasser - was Khrushchev's Hero. He was replaced by Sadat - right? Aid to Egypt from the USSR, of course, went under Nasser. Sadat did not even think of giving it up at first.
      ALL the events described in this bike took place under Sadat, while the same happened with the replacement of the L / C division on the 2nd (March 1971) and 3rd (June 1972) composition.
      Only then did he "change orientation" and demanded the withdrawal of Soviet troops (in July 1972). However, our military specialists were in Egypt until 1976, EMNIP.
      What in my phrase seemed to you "sheer nonsense" ?!
      Why you dragged a bearded anecdote, which we were told on political information back in the 70s of the last century, is not clear.
      Next.
      “On the basis of the Leningrad 6 Air Defense OA, an air defense corps was formed.”

      Which building? On the basis of the Leningrad 6th Air Defense OA, the 564th anti-aircraft missile regiment was formed, which became part of the 18th Air Defense Division of the ON. In addition, this regiment received units from Estonia and the Baku Air Defense District. "

      The fact is that the story was told by veterans of our 6th Air Defense OA. Naturally, they slightly exaggerated their role, although they had certain reasons for this. Strictly speaking, the 18th Red Banner Special Purpose Air Defense Division was actually deployed in Egypt (Then it was renamed the 28th Division). Gen. Smirnov A.G. commanded her. (who after that for many years was the commander of the Leningrad 6th Air Defense Division), the head of the division’s political department was Colonel Mikhailov V.G. (subsequently also - PMA 6 OA air defense). I think it’s clear why our veterans believed that the Leningraders played the main role there. The Soviet units in the division were first called regiments, then brigades, and their numbering changed.
      To you, as a veteran of the Air Defense Forces d.b. it is known that no independent "units from Estonia" (about which you are writing for some reason) then did NOT EXIST. Part of the divisions of the 204th Guards Airborne Brigade (in which Kutyntsev served) were stationed in Russia, part in the territory of the Estonian SSR, in the territory of the Est.SSR 14 divines were stationed. Air Defense, which was also part of the 6th Air Defense OA.
      What is the "nonsense" you have noticed ?! Rather, you have inaccuracies in your review.
      It must be said that in addition to the air defense division, the Soviet group included fighter aviation regiments, helicopters, etc.
      Replace the word "corps" with "division" in the bike, since this is so important for you and that's all.

      Following.
      "In Nikolaev loaded equipment on the tanker and from there - to Alexandria."

      How do you imagine that?"

      And what confused you here, dear ?! Followed by the sea. What exactly bothers you here ?!

      And the last.
      The fact that stories are based on real facts and events is really TRUE.
      Nothing your petty nitpicking (the sinners themselves with inaccuracies) does not refute this.
      The phrase: "it is based on REAL facts and events" - which you found fault with so much that you repeated it TWICE in your review, is written not in the text of the story itself, but in response to one of the comments here on the site.
      It contains absolutely incredible details of the battle and the completely fictional figures of the planes shot down by Kutyntsev (11 pcs. In 16 minutes of the battle)
      This, for some reason you did not want to comment, although as an air defense veteran they should to surprise at least.
  12. npv554f
    npv554f 18 August 2013 02: 02 New
    +1
    Dear Sergey (Modus), I am answering your comments.

    “Let's start with the simple.
    I have emphasized TWICE that this is a bike, and it does not claim to be completely historical. "This is how veterans of our brigade told this story ..." - it is written at the end of the story. "

    I repeat again, the bike is the bike. I would have laughed along with the others, if not for your statement that "at its core are REAL facts and events." And no matter where you state it, in an article or comment. But…

    "In order:
    What did you dislike about this phrase: "Gamal Abdel Nasser (by the way, Khrushchev's Hero of the Soviet Union, if anyone has forgotten) has already been replaced by Anvar Sadat. He turned to the USSR for help. And we, as always, did not refuse" ?? !! Nasser - was Khrushchev's Hero. He was replaced by Sadat - right? Aid to Egypt from the USSR, of course, went under Nasser. Sadat did not even think of giving it up at first.
    ALL the events described in this bike took place under Sadat, while the same happened with the replacement of the L / C division on the 2nd (March 1971) and 3rd (June 1972) composition. "


    It was not for nothing that I indicated the date of Nasser's death - September 28, 1970. On August 3, the last battle of Soviet missile and Israeli pilots took place. For more than the 18th division did not enter into combat contact with enemy aircraft until the complete withdrawal of Soviet troops and advisers from Egypt. Accordingly, combat launches were not carried out. The warring parties entered into a ceasefire for a period of three months from August 7, 1970. Then the truce was extended for another 3 months, etc. It is a fact. And the fact that the president of Egypt, in the period you described, was Nasser, is also a fact. Therefore, everything you wrote about Anwar Sadat is nonsense. You do not like this word, replace it with another - nonsense, nonsense, nonsense
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    npv554f 18 August 2013 02: 03 New
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    To you, as a veteran of the Air Defense Forces d.b. it is known that no independent "units from Estonia" (about which you are writing for some reason) then did NOT EXIST. Part of the divisions of the 204th Guards Airborne Brigade (in which Kutyntsev served) were stationed in Russia, part in the territory of the Estonian SSR, in the territory of the Est.SSR 14 divines were stationed. Air Defense, which was also part of the 6th Air Defense OA.

    Who told you that I had in mind the air defense units that are part of the 6th Air Defense OA? I did not write this. I wrote that this regiment received units from Estonia ... For your information, the 18th Air Defense Division HE was formed from units and units of the country's air defense (S-125 air defense system) and ground defense air forces (ZSU-23-4 "Shilka", MANPADS "Arrow-2"). It is a fact.
    Following.
    "In Nikolaev loaded equipment on the tanker and from there - to Alexandria."
    And what confused you here, dear ?! Followed by the sea. What exactly bothers you here ?!

    I repeat. How do you imagine this, or for you there is no difference between a tanker and a dry cargo ship? At first, the equipment and personnel were liquefied and pumped into tanks, and in Alexandria the reverse process was carried out? Or did the Soviet government go into billions of dollars and ditch 16 tankers, converting them for dry cargo ships? Or do you reason like this: since there is a “trough”, can you ship anything?

    It must be said that in addition to the air defense division, the Soviet group included fighter aviation regiments, helicopters, etc.

    Not regiments, but regiment. And I did not observe any helicopters. The 18th Air Defense Division OH was strengthened by an aviation group (senior group Major General Aviation G.U. Dolnikov) consisting of:
    35th Separate Fighter Squadron
    (30 MiG-21MF, 42 pilots - commander Colonel Yu.V. Nastenko) and
    135th Fighter Aviation Regiment
    (40 MiG-21MF, 60 pilots - commander Colonel K.K. Korotyuk);
    90th Special Purpose Long Range Reconnaissance Squadron
    (Tu-16R, Be-12, Tu-16P, Il-38). In addition, the division was supported by a detachment of ships from the Black Sea, Baltic and Northern fleets as part of the 5th ("Mediterranean") squadron of the USSR Navy;
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    npv554f 18 August 2013 02: 07 New
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    I personally came to see off the volunteers (no matter how much !!!) KOSYGIN Alexey Nikolaevich, Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR with the corresponding retinue.

    But none of the 18th veterans for some reason remembers such an EVENT.

    I don’t even want to comment on Mikhalych’s memoirs, all the more so since they are written from other people's words.

    As a result, on the second day, the division, covering the airfield of Alexandria, discovered the Arabic IL-28, which had landed. Since the target did not respond to the request of the identification system (and on the screen of the indicator, all targets are visible as a small point, according to which their type and state ownership cannot be determined), ours fired at her and shot her down. One pilot died. Further in the text.

    You write about Nikolay Mikhailovich Kutyntsev. But this EVENT, directly related to Nikolai Mikhailovich, is distorted by most I can’t.
    After a night march from Alexandria to Cairo, the Kutyntsev division was deployed at a temporary position near the Kairo West airbase and took up combat duty on the night of March 13-14. After 30 minutes from the beginning of combat duty, a low-flying target, heading for the airfield, was discovered. That morning the post of brigade commander at the command post was taken by the chief of staff of the 86th air defense brigade, sub-command Rzheussky E.M. He specified with the Egyptian air base duty personnel whether our planes were in the air, having received a negative answer, gave the command to destroy the target. Kutyntsev launched two missiles. Both hit the target at an altitude of 200 meters at 06:19. The KP received the report of the division commander: "The target is destroyed, the expense is two." The Egyptian IL-28BM, a reconnaissance aircraft returning to its base after completing a mission over the Mediterranean Sea, was shot down. A direct hit of two missiles at a low altitude left the crew no chance, the pilots Major Salah Rashid and Lieutenant Dorri Riad Sakr were killed. The plane crashed right at the start of the runway.
    In the course of the investigation of the causes of the tragedy, it was found that on the planes of the UAR Air Force, the Silicon-1 friend-or-foe system removed from service in the USSR was installed. It should be recalled that on December 26, 1969, an Egyptian sabotage reconnaissance and targeting station P-12PM was captured and taken directly from a helicopter position in Ras Garib by an Israeli sabotage group. The interrogator of the Silicon-1 system was in the hands of Israeli and American experts. In the Soviet Union, it was necessary to completely replace the friend or foe system. Obviously, the new Silicon-2 interrogators were already standing at the radar stations of the arriving Soviet air defense systems.
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    npv554f 18 August 2013 02: 08 New
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    Before the arrival of the Soviet units, the pilots of the Egyptian Air Force flew without applications, and the downed Il went without prior notification. March 6 - 2 "phantoms" flew over the Cairo West airbase, so the control officer on duty made the only correct decision in a combat situation. Rzheussky and Kutyntsev were declared guilty of the tragedy. Chief Military Adviser Colonel-General I.S. Katyshkin demanded that both be sent back to the Union within 24 hours, as unprepared for the performance of a combat mission. But thanks to the support of Major General L.A. Gromov, senior in the air defense force. and the firm position of the division commander, the officers continued to serve in Egypt. But p / p-k Rzheussky received a warning from the Minister of Defense about incomplete service compliance, with which he left to the reserve. In this tragedy, our military was struck by the reaction of the Egyptian side, which not only calmly accepted the news of its downed plane, but also did not hide its obvious satisfaction with the combat capabilities of the Soviet S-125 air defense system, demonstrated at the cost of the lives of Arab pilots. By the way, it was the position of the Egyptian side, which stated that it did not see the fault of our officers in what had happened, to some extent influenced the fact that Rzheussky and Kutyntsev continued their service in Egypt.
    This was not the only case when ours fired on the planes of the Egyptians. There were attempts to bring down aircraft and soldiers who were armed with the Strela-2 air defense system. Not far from the port of Alexandria, Strela was launched on a passenger plane. The turbine failed, but the plane landed successfully. Then, SU-7B aircraft piloted by Egyptian pilots were fired. They managed to land, albeit with damage, after that small albums with TTD and silhouettes of their aircraft and the enemy were published in the printing house. Cases of shelling of their aircraft ceased.
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    npv554f 18 August 2013 02: 09 New
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    He, in the meantime, observed the flights of Israeli pilots, traveled through the desert on his UAZ and discovered the bed of a dried up river, over which the Israelis flew over the Suez Canal, remaining invisible to our radar stations. He had the idea to organize an ambush there at night.
    The command of the anti-aircraft missile brigade, which included the Kutintsev division, agreed with great reluctance to this experiment. In practice, he acted at his own peril and risk. Having trained the calculations to quickly expand and collapse the division, he achieved great success in this, three times overlapping the "excellent" standard. Then I arranged with the Arabs to deploy 3 “false” division of plywood and boards next to his position at night (in this, as well as masking positions, the Arabs were recognized masters).

    The first began to create maneuverable air defense groups of the UAR based on the experience of the Vietnam War. 2-3 Egyptian anti-aircraft missile divisions and secretly displayed in the canal zone to cover ground units. The positive experience of the first maneuver groups was developed. On the night of June 30, a maneuver group of mixed composition from SA-75M and S-125 under the command of Mr. Kovalenko I.K., deputy. to-ra 582 zrp, made a march in the district of Big Gorky Lake. After deploying west of the city of Fayd and the city of Ismailia, in advance prepared joint ventures, the divisions formed a powerful group of anti-aircraft missiles. It consisted of 13 Egyptian SA-75M anti-aircraft regiments and 3 S-125 anti-aircraft regiments with Soviet calculations, commanders G.M. Komyagin, V.P. Malyauka (SP 555), V.V. Taskaev. Cover, except for the Egyptian anti-aircraft artillery units, was provided by 18 ZSU-23-4 Shilka and the calculations of MANPADS Strela-2.
    I will not describe the battle. I can only say that in this battle the Israeli F-4E Phantom was first shot down by an anti-aircraft missile system, which was still considered invulnerable to anti-aircraft missiles. According to the results of the battle, Mr. V.P. Malyauka, who shot down the first Israeli Phantom and opened the battle account of the 18th division, was introduced by the division commander to the title "Hero of the Soviet Union", but received the Order of the Red Banner.
    By the way, in addition to Malyauka, the command of the division submitted an idea of ​​the assignment of a command to V.M. Tolokonnikov the title of Hero of the Soviet Union for the battle on July 18, 1970. But it was not approved by the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Defense Forces of the country. Together with his deputy politician, Mr. K. B. Chervinsky and other officers, the division commander was awarded the Order of the Red Banner. Lieutenant Sumin S.P. He was awarded posthumously the Order of the Red Banner, the dead soldiers - posthumously the Order of the Red Star.
    At that time, Egyptian President Nasser was in Moscow on a regular visit. During the negotiations, the Egyptian side directly expressed its distrust of the combat capability of the Soviet air defense units deployed in the UAR, sarcastically noting that almost 3 months had passed since the arrival of the anti-aircraft gunners and not a single Israeli plane was shot down. Brezhnev, who was immediately informed about the downed Israeli Phantom, "with a sense of deep satisfaction" informed Nasser about this.
    Description of the first battle of the S-125 air defense missile system in VKO "No. 5 (18) 2004" June 30, 1970, Suez Canal "
    1. 505506
      505506 4 October 2013 09: 25 New
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      The main thing in this "bike" is not historical accuracy, but the fact that the would-be historians FORGOT about the Hero, and only forty years have passed!
      1. Modus
        4 October 2013 18: 33 New
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        I completely agree with you, Roman.
        For this, it is written: "To be remembered!"
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        npv554f 16 October 2013 23: 44 New
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        Quote: 505506
        The main thing in this "bike" is not historical accuracy, but the fact that the would-be historians FORGOT about the Hero, and only forty years have passed!

        Totally agree with you. I would not write comments if it weren’t for one thing ... In his commentary, “Alex 241” told a legend that lives in the homeland of the Hero, among his fellow countrymen. This legend has the same right to exist as the bike told by the author. But the author pointed out to Alex 241 that (I cannot vouch for accuracy, I convey only the meaning) his legend is “bullshit”, because this cannot be, and his legend is based on real facts and events. That's when I wrote my first comment, indicating to the author that his bike does not correspond to real facts and events. In response, the author erupted in an angry comment, in which, once again, he argued that his stories were based on real facts and events. I had to refute point by point. It is unfortunate that the author deleted his comments, it would be clearer to you what is at stake. I repeat, I would not do this if the author did not argue that the basis of his legend (tales) is truth, and the basis of the legend living in the homeland of the Hero is fiction. Let different legends live. In the part in which Nikolay Mikhailovich Kutyntsev served, his own, and in his own homeland of the Hero. And let the school, in which the Hero of the Soviet Union studied, tell students about the feat of their countryman. If at the same time a little lies, it's okay. That's why she is a legend. The main thing is the memory of the Hero, and not historical authenticity.
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    npv554f 18 August 2013 02: 17 New
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    Nikolai Mikhailovich, like Popov, Konstantin Ilyich, received his Star of the Hero for the last battle of our division on August 3, 1970

    Description of the battle in "VKO" №5 (24) 2005 "The last battle" of the war of attrition ""
    It is a fact. Now compare with what you wrote.
    Cut off cables, frostbitten legs, a diamond skillet I will not comment. The bike is the bike.
    The phrase: "it is based on REAL facts and events" - which you found fault with so much that you repeated it TWICE in your review, is written not in the text of the story itself, but in response to one of the comments here on the site.
    It contains absolutely incredible details of the battle and the completely fictional figures of the planes shot down by Kutyntsev (11 pcs. In 16 minutes of the battle)
    This, for some reason you did not want to comment, although as an air defense veteran they should to surprise at least.

    I have not been surprised at anything for a long time. What Alex 241 wrote, a legend living in the minds of Hero's fellow countrymen. And let this legend live on. There will be a living legend - the memory of their fellow countryman will be alive. At the same time, note that Alex 241 does not claim to be the ultimate truth. You tried to destroy this legend. Nevertheless, when you wrote your version of the legend (or tales, as you wish), you indicated, even in the commentary, that it was based on REAL facts and events. As it turned out, this is far from the case.
    For the bike, I put you a plus. Comment, unlike you, did not begin to minus.
    Sincerely.
    1. Modus
      18 August 2013 10: 40 New
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      Here's how to "flop" with you, dear.
      In order to review BIKES you need to have a sense of humor and a sense of proportion.
      You have neither one nor the other.
      They mixed in a heap what was written by me and not by me (chopped-off cables, etc.)
      Long historical references, bearded jokes told by you, are inappropriate here.
      At the heart of stories are facts that you can’t refute in any way in your boring posts.
      I'm not talking about your mentor tone and rude intonations.

      Now about this one: "Note, alex 241 does not claim to be the ultimate truth."
      So I also do not pretend to it.
      For the "especially gifted" I stress for the tenth time: this is just a BIKE that our veterans told. She never claimed the "ultimate truth". So it came to you?
      And here you, dear, just pretend to know the absolute truth.
      Write your note on the website that you recommend - there it will be out of place.
      Farewell.
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  20. blehov
    blehov 9 March 2018 11: 56 New
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    Everywhere they write that N. M. Kutyntsev, after returning from Egypt, taught at the Academy in Kharkov. It is not true. After returning from Egypt, Kutyntsev was a brigade commander in Vaganovo. Then he quit at the end of the summer of 1976 with a transfer to Kharkov. I served in Vaganovo, under his command, often saw his wife and daughter Irina. He served in the Garrison Club of Officers, where his wife, Anna, worked in the library. He was a wonderful person, not a fanatic of the charter. He enjoyed great respect among the soldiers. He was soft in character, did not go over the heads, did not obey, therefore he did not reach the rank of General. In general, he was a man with a capital letter. The kingdom to him is heavenly and eternal memory.