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The death of the Navy Museum. Sailors in the capital have lost their last pier

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The death of the Navy Museum. Sailors in the capital have lost their last pierAt the next historical round, fate played a cruel joke with Moscow, the capital of the sea power: it lost not only the General Staff of the Naval fleet, but also the last berth, where the B-396 diesel submarine (formerly the Novosibirsk Komsomolets) was permanently moored, the world's only transport and landing craft "Orlyonok" and the Skat hovercraft.


The point is that, in accordance with the order of the Department of Culture of the City of Moscow, since November 2012, the State Budgetary Institution of Culture of the City of Moscow “The Museum-Memorial Complex stories Of the Navy of Russia "(GBUK of the city of Moscow" Museum-memorial complex of the history of the Russian Navy ", MMK of the history of the Russian Navy), which is based on the above-mentioned ships, is included in the museum-park complex" Northern Tushino ".

As a result of such a reorganization in the midst of museum activity from 23 in May 2013, the museum complex was excluded from the register of legal entities, that is, it actually ceased to exist as an independent cultural institution that would celebrate its tenth anniversary this year. The name of the museum also disappeared, and the direction of its activity, which had been preserved for the whole of this period, while the unique samples of ships and artifacts so far became just attributes of the park zone. Thus, the Navy is really deprived of the last site in Moscow, where until now actively worked to preserve naval relics, military-patriotic education with a sea bias. After the Naval Headquarters moved to St. Petersburg and liquidated its club with Navy veterans and young sailors, the naval cadets of the capital still had hope that naval traditions, including the rise of naval a flag, meetings of veterans and active officers of the fleet with students of the naval cadet corps and schools of young sailors, a solemn march under the naval flags, especially on the Navy Day, beloved by all citizens. But this hope collapsed overnight.

Now the situation with the museum is deteriorating every day. 28 in May, the diesel submarine B-396, which was turned into a modern unique museum complex by the hands of factory workers-Severodvintsev, is a kind of pride of the national military-industrial complex, which has almost no analogues abroad, was disconnected from the city’s power grid and closed to a granary lock. By order of the Department of Culture, from that day on, excursions to the compartments of the boat are not conducted, it is closed under the specious pretext of reconstructing the ship and the embankment for several years. Now, the fate of experienced employees (especially guides, museum workers) hang in the balance, and some have already been fired. On the territory of the museum embankment according to the plans of the park “Northern Tushino” a usual exhibition complex is already being built. Everything is being done to erase the naval spirit from the park.

The museum staff and veterans of the Navy are sounding the alarm, turning to the leadership of the country and the city with letters, still hoping that the state will pay attention to restoring the status and focus of this unique museum complex, so important for the heroic and patriotic education of Moscow and not only young people. But the importance of this education is spoken of by the authorities at every meeting with veterans and young citizens, especially during election campaigns (it does not matter, the President of the State or the Mayor of the capital). It seems that in the high offices of the mayor's office they don’t even know what the state of the museum complex is, if until July they published in local newspapers announcements of a monthly free visit to the Navy Museum in Moscow, access to which they themselves had stopped.

You can also stop the destruction of the museum, its funds and exhibits, if the Moscow authorities positively decide on the allocation of money for the preservation of ships, the construction of a normal museum building (as planned by previous decrees of the Moscow government), and also restore the status of the museum and its focus, even as part of the museum and park complex "Northern Tushino". But this should be publicly announced in the media. Finally, it is possible to offer the city authorities to transfer the museum complex together with unique ships to the Department of Culture of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation with the subsequent inclusion of exhibits in the collections of the Central Museum of the Armed Forces of the country. After all, the Moscow teenager who is interested in military history will not find such ships either on Suvorov Square or on Poklonnaya Hill. In the meantime, time is working against us, ordinary people, who still remember the glorious deeds of the Navy Power.
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  1. Edward72
    Edward72 30 July 2013 10: 44 New
    +7
    Breaking does not build, all this resembles red tape with Aurora.
    1. AVV
      AVV 30 July 2013 14: 44 New
      +4
      It's a shame for the power !!!
      1. kris
        kris 30 July 2013 15: 30 New
        +3
        Aw, Kuzhugetovich?
        1. Combitor
          Combitor 31 July 2013 02: 08 New
          +4
          <kris (6) Yesterday, 15:30 ↑ Au, Kuzhugetovich?>
          He eats pike steamed with GDP.
    2. opkozak
      opkozak 30 July 2013 15: 07 New
      +7

      Favorite pastime of Russian officials - cut dough. "If there is nothing to saw, tyrim."
      1. brutal true
        brutal true 30 July 2013 16: 27 New
        +3
        Quote: opkozak
        Favorite pastime of Russian officials - cut dough. "If there is nothing to saw, tyrim."

        This is a favorite pastime of the Russian people, not just officials. Officials then come out of the popular milieu, not Martians, after all, some. Everyone thinks: well, I certainly would have been honest, while there is nothing to steal. More precisely, my favorite pastime is to moan that everything is bad, they steal all around, and I, I say, smart, honest, far-sighted, I am vegetating in shit. And as soon as the opportunity to steal appears, I did not have time to think, but I already grabbed it. And further along the spiral.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 30 July 2013 20: 20 New
          -1
          Quote: brutal true
          This is a favorite pastime of the Russian people, not just officials.

          Do you judge by yourself?
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 30 July 2013 20: 42 New
        +5
        Quote: opkozak
        Favorite pastime of Russian officials - cut dough.

        Either a piece of the embankment began to cost more than conscience or, according to a proven scheme, first started up, and then complaints about disappearing pride would be poured into the press and repaired by themselves. That is, you have to have money twice!
    3. Very old
      Very old 30 July 2013 15: 14 New
      +3
      But it seems to me that history has not taught our ranks anything. After the 17th, they broke so much (maybe that's why they lost?) - and today they continue to break those whom I call (with me, of course) the demo-Bolsheviks. Breaking does not build ... And whose order is fulfilled?
  2. shark
    shark 30 July 2013 10: 45 New
    +5
    The people, maybe there is someone who is active? Come on denyuzhku or something help. Whoever can.
    1. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 30 July 2013 14: 22 New
      +4
      There is no need to collect a lot. Only one blank shot for Aurora! angry
      But the museum needs help, where to get the details?
  3. fzr1000
    fzr1000 30 July 2013 10: 47 New
    +5
    If this is not ordinary alarmism, but the truth, then here is a classic example of bureaucrats in Moscow, including not Muscovites. And the methods of their actions are no different from any other place in Russia - they came up with something on the internship, but the local opinion does not bother them. Hi Sobyanin from Tyumen, Khusnullin from Kazan, etc. .. Therefore, dear Russians, from all regions of Russia, before yelling at all crossroads that Muscovites are to blame for all your troubles, try to get to the bottom what kind of “Muscovites” are you got wound up. Or maybe they were once born and graduated from a school in a neighboring region, and then they left Moscow to “conquer”?
    1. DmitriRazumov
      DmitriRazumov 30 July 2013 13: 51 New
      +1
      Thus, the Navy is actually deprived of the last site in Moscow, on which the work to preserve naval relics, military-patriotic education with a marine bias has been actively carried out so far.

      Quote: fzr1000
      Hi Sobyanin from Tyumen,

      I fully agree with you, these "Vikings", appointed to the kingdom by the willful decision of the Kremlin administration, did not bring the city anything good. Sobyanin PR on all central channels. But I am not familiar with any Muscovite who. appreciates his activities positively. He did not give anything to the capital, but successfully breaks up and takes on what he did with such hard work. Many Moscow assets (Vnukovo, markets, other real estate objects) sold out to "their" people. They helped to fill the capital budget and be independent in the formation of a salary fund for teachers, doctors and other socially significant professions. Actually, now many teachers are practically forced to work for the same salary, but with greater intensity or fired. Accordingly, the quality of education. There is an enlargement of schools, sometimes schools for corrective education (for hooligans) are merged with ordinary ones. Parents do not know where to attach their children so that they do not end up in this semi-criminal environment. Moscow doctors also felt the activities of this appointee.
      Sobyanin’s wife successfully paves idiotic tiles all over the capital’s periphery (in the center they gave a hand). This is instead of building normal infrastructure: underpasses, parking lots, etc. In general, the guys frolic in earnest, feeling impunity and reinforced concrete support from above.
    2. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 31 July 2013 15: 59 New
      0
      Well, we know Muscovites, did not have time to settle down and settle down and is ready, but real ones, at least in the third generation, can be counted on the fingers soon
  4. Captain Vrungel
    Captain Vrungel 30 July 2013 10: 47 New
    11
    Power? Get confused! Turn on the ball on your shoulders! Sometimes, not only to tear and grab, but also need to think a little. No story. no state. Museums have the most visual history in documents and exhibits. States should be categorically prohibited from changing their status.
    1. strange and pretty meaningless
      strange and pretty meaningless 30 July 2013 11: 47 New
      +4
      Quote: Captain Vrungel
      Power? Get confused! Turn on the ball on your shoulders!

      Nope ... Hai that ball will explode. Let that power itself creep out into the cemetery - and SUFFER ... Closes in the museum-boat - and let Freon itself ...
      On the neighboring branch, meanwhile, is a traditional shack - to be or not to be a Racean aircraft carrier. Catch up and overtake America. Meanwhile, in the spiritless rotting P-Hindustan, decommissioned aircraft carriers and battleships become museums. And here are the Ambarovs with locks ... I dare to assure everyone - I am not an agent of the business department, but it becomes dreary from such "local customs". I remember the peppy reports on the box - how this boat was dragged to Moscow. But right now, eat ... Mlyn. As old Silver said, “I vote - kill!” ...
  5. sub307
    sub307 30 July 2013 10: 47 New
    13
    Well, sorry, of course, if that is the case. B-396 - "my" former submarine. He served on it from 1984 to 1989.
  6. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 July 2013 10: 49 New
    0
    Sadness ... recourse
  7. Apollo
    Apollo 30 July 2013 10: 52 New
    +6
    quote-28 in May the B-396 diesel submarine, which was turned into a unique museum complex by the hands of the Severodvino factory workers - a kind of pride of the domestic military-industrial complex, almost unparalleled abroad, was disconnected from the city’s power grid and closed to a barn lock .

    this same boat



    quote-You can still stop the death of the museum, its funds and exhibits, if the Moscow authorities positively decide on the allocation of money for the preservation of ships, the construction of a normal museum building (as planned by previous decrees of the Moscow government), and also restore the status of the museum and its focus, even if it’s part of the Northern Tushino museum and park complex. But this must be publicly announced in the media.

    We must raise our voice in defense of the museum and prevent the destruction of the museum. There are money for all kinds of dubious projects like shopping complexes, but no for the museum ?! Yes, I will never believe it; there is simply money to make the Moscow authorities allocate the necessary money and that’s all.
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 30 July 2013 11: 01 New
      +2
      Now Sobyanin has an election campaign. We must take advantage of this. I’ll try to find some coordinates of his site or his public reception and write there on behalf of the public. If someone has already written, so much the better.
    2. fzr1000
      fzr1000 30 July 2013 11: 22 New
      +1
      https://www.mos.ru/authority/treatments/reception/individuals/ сюда скопировал, подредактировав текст статьи, но живу в ВАО Москвы. Хорошо бы, чтобы больше писали из СЗАО и САО.
    3. fzr1000
      fzr1000 30 July 2013 11: 25 New
      0
      Quickly, a robot from the site of the city hall sent an answer that it was accepted for consideration and advised me to write here again http://gorod.mos.ru/. Now I’ll send it there.
  8. vadimN
    vadimN 30 July 2013 11: 01 New
    +6
    But we will create a new museum of the frigate "Oleg", which Putin dived into ...

    Guys, I realized what needs to be done to preserve the history of the fleet! It is necessary in every museum, designated by "effective managers" to destroy Putin to drive!

    Do these uncles really not understand that such museums in the world are on the fingers of one hand, and in our country even less. Either exorbitant greed, obscuring the mind, or a deliberate struggle with the history of the country ...

    The heyday of patriotic education ...
    1. Raven1972
      Raven1972 30 July 2013 19: 11 New
      -1
      Quote: vadimN
      or a deliberate struggle with the history of the country ...

      That’s what Vadim is, this is what .... You correctly noticed ...
  9. desertfox
    desertfox 30 July 2013 11: 21 New
    +1
    Only 2 days ago added this museum to the list of places to visit ... and here is the news ..
  10. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 30 July 2013 11: 26 New
    +2
    The people, the story is strange there, the new owner of the park has come and these are his variations, freaks. And for some reason, the leadership of the municipal district in which the park with the boat is located cannot do anything here.
    Here the material about this case has already been laid out in a more detailed form, from where I set out.
    http://topwar.ru/30831-poslednee-pogruzhenie-novosibirskogo-komsomolca.html - Последнее погружение «Новосибирского комсомольца»
  11. Grenz
    Grenz 30 July 2013 11: 27 New
    +4
    "MANKURT" today is ruled by a ball. Why be surprised, thank God the noise was raised, otherwise these exhibits would be pushed abroad. (Although they were exactly preserved there. How they sold IL-2, descent vehicles, etc. - you yourself can give many more examples). I was bombarded when I doubted the installation of a monument to the heroes of the First World War. A monument is needed, but it’s just a monument - the corresponding military-historical support (including museum support) is needed, and it’s just PR.
    We marked with dignity the day of the Navy, in Sevastopol, Vladivostok, a beautiful SHOW was organized - the authorities of the cities: "Oh, what wonderful we are." And then: "Turn off the eternal flame in Vladik - you need to save gas."
    It was correctly noted above - when those who were born and raised there will not become the masters of the cities - there will only be public relations with the installation of new monuments that have not been set by them to be forgotten.
  12. pinecone
    pinecone 30 July 2013 11: 39 New
    +5
    Quote: shark
    The people, maybe there is someone who is active? Come on denyuzhku or something help. Whoever can.



    This is not about money, which is supposedly lacking, but about the ideology of liberalism implanted everywhere, “universal values”, tolerance and other turbidity, among which there is no longer any room for cultivating a sense of patriotism.
  13. alone
    alone 30 July 2013 12: 03 New
    +2
    it's like a gift from the government of Moscow to military sailors on the day of the Russian Navy))
  14. Russ69
    Russ69 30 July 2013 12: 09 New
    0
    What to panic ahead of time, while closing for reconstruction. There is only one announcement on the museum’s website, but no matter how complete closure of the museum.

    In order to implement the decree of the Moscow Government “On the further development of the Museum and Memorial Complex of the History of the Russian Navy in the Khimki Reservoir” and due to the need to complete construction work, the reception of visitors and preliminary recording of organized groups of visitors has been discontinued from 27.05.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX.
    (Basis: Order of the Department of Culture of the city of Moscow No. 378 dated 27.05.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX)


    And since the article originally appeared in the Free Press, you need to check everything a few more times.

    Museum website http://www.museum-vmf.ru/index.phtml
  15. pa_nik
    pa_nik 30 July 2013 12: 23 New
    +1
    He planned to take the child, see .. put off everything. Seen not fate request It's a pity.
  16. Evgeniy46
    Evgeniy46 30 July 2013 13: 17 New
    +1
    Can any of the members of the forum post this to Rogozin on Twitter?
    1. Alan
      Alan 30 July 2013 16: 53 New
      0
      Of course, it’s not difficult to write an appeal, I sent it, only if I doubt it negative the answer if I announce it.
  17. sumcream56
    sumcream56 30 July 2013 13: 46 New
    +1
    We must turn to Nizhny Novgorod to the governor Shantsev, they create a museum there, and after all, Orlyonok is a Nizhny Novgorod product and possibly a submarine. Nizhny Novgorod can not get Lun from the Dagestan Caspian. Eaglet would be just right.
    1. Zerstorer
      Zerstorer 30 July 2013 14: 54 New
      0
      Not a solution to the problem, but an extreme option ...
  18. common man
    common man 30 July 2013 14: 47 New
    +2
    Our mother! Three years ago I was in Moscow, I did not know that there was such a museum in the capital. Though howl. And now ... is it really not fate that will already be. People with power. What are you doing. Why do you behave like Ivanes who do not remember kinship.
    Quote: Russ69
    There is only one announcement on the museum’s website, but no matter how complete closure of the museum.

    We all abominations start with harmless ads, so I won’t be surprised.
  19. valokordin
    valokordin 30 July 2013 14: 53 New
    +2
    Quote: man in the street

    We all abominations start with harmless ads, so I won’t be surprised.

    Probably Taburetkin managed to sell this museum.
  20. aviator65
    aviator65 30 July 2013 14: 58 New
    +4
    Why be surprised when money is everything. Of course, another exhibition - trade - entertainment mega - super center is now much more interesting than some kind of museum! What kind of museum from the museum? That's it! And before my eyes there is still another sad picture. So thanks to someone's brainless head, this masterpiece was commissioned on metal. Moreover, this was done with special cynicism, in broad daylight in front of the eyes of many visitors of the All-Russian Exhibition Center, this liner was cut like an unnecessary piece of iron. Miraculously, the rocket survived, and what they turned the Yak-42 do not want to say. Incidentally, the cut Tu was a unique instance, a record holder. Where is the guarantee that the same fate will not befall the same "eaglet" or submarine?
    1. Evgeniy46
      Evgeniy46 30 July 2013 17: 22 New
      +2
      There is already a rule - the farther from the capital, the longer the museum / exhibit will live in the city center ...
  21. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 30 July 2013 15: 14 New
    +2
    bacchanalia !!!!!!!!!!!!! .. all these ministries of culture and various similar departments are captured by uncultured people (to put it mildly) "not remembering kinship" "....
  22. kind
    kind 30 July 2013 15: 24 New
    +2
    You can still stop the process of the death of the museum, its funds and exhibits, if the Moscow authorities positively decide on the allocation of money for the preservation of ships, the construction of a normal museum building (as planned by previous decrees of the Moscow government),

    Those. the current government of Moscow is worse than the previous one. He (the Moscow government) is not interested in our glorious past and its monuments and artifacts. The main thing is stupidly cut down the loot. Where did they come from? Who raised them, on what ideals? It’s a pity we don’t have a time machine, we would send them in 1942, but to Leningrad, for 500 days !!!
  23. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 30 July 2013 22: 58 New
    +1
    It is sad if, after carrying out construction work, Muscovites and guests of the capital do not see a living embodiment of the history of the Russian fleet in the guise of real (living) warships.
    I ask myself: why is this possible in my country? Why do amers cling to artifacts with their young, less than 300-year history? It seems to me everything comes from the fact that only citizens who have served in the Armed Forces can occupy government posts there. With arms in their hands they defended the foundations of their state; they value everything that served this cause.
    I looked at the biography of Sobyanin. Not only that, the Varangian also did not serve in the Army. Apparently the history of the fleet is as dear to him as the history of the loom to me. WE follow parallel courses. But unlike me, he is a politician, obliged to take care of the power of the state, including the military, and this is impossible without the education of the DEFENDER of the Fatherland.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 31 July 2013 03: 48 New
      0
      Quote: BoA KAA
      Why is this possible in my country? Why do amers cling to artifacts with their young history of less than 300 years? It seems to me everything comes from the fact that only citizens who have served in the Armed Forces can occupy government posts there.

      Can enlighten me to the ignorant, in what regiment Obama served? I can’t find it in any way. request
      But I know about Clinton’s service. He, as he received a summons for military service (and the Vietnam War was in those years), enrolled in the military department (there are some in some colleges, the visit is purely voluntary) and received an excuse. The funny thing is, he knew that with the beginning of the school year he was going to exchange in Nagliya, and his legs would not be in the military department. This story surfaced in 1992 before the election. And what do you think, like water from a goose. Well, even marijuana could not drown him, it was enough for him to say "yes, he smoked, but did not drag out", and these rams shit-democrats believed and voted for him in unison. Republicans are usually not forgiven for this.
  24. Grenz
    Grenz 30 July 2013 22: 58 New
    0
    [quote = рус69] What to panic ahead of time, while closing for reconstruction. There is only one announcement on the museum’s website, but no matter how complete closure of the museum.

    In order to implement the decree of the Moscow Government “On the further development of the Museum and Memorial Complex of the History of the Russian Navy in the Khimki Reservoir” and due to the need to complete construction work, the reception of visitors and preliminary recording of organized groups of visitors has been discontinued from 27.05.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX.
    (Basis: Order of the Department of Culture of the city of Moscow No. 378 dated 27.05.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX)


    The guys do not need to panic, we only reconstruct it, museum workers are at rest, and there the people will forget about its existence. For all questions - no money, all for kindergartens. And you, that against kindergartens. No. So be silent. That this is not known to us.
    Volgograd. Department of Culture. In order to find a new brand, consider replacing the sculpture
    Mother Motherland a new symbol. Fought off with anger. But apparently the "cultural attempts" will continue.
    I would not say anything, but when decisions are pushed to me (especially in the field of culture) ... I wanted to write what kind of reaction I would not.
    I was resting on vacation on a boat - I saw artifacts in the distance, found out and definitely wanted to visit, and here by the time of the Navy and a present from the Department of Culture. It’s terrible how you want to carry out the reconstruction - well, without it, well, in no way can this museum be capitalized to please the next oligarch. Maybe this place attracted the attention of Abramovich’s yacht. Well, not for the good of the matter, reconstruction has been started. That an official suddenly became a patriot. I won’t believe it for anything.
    This is a response to the decision of the Department of Culture. By the way, pay attention - the date of the order and the closing date - what a hurry, they didn’t even give things to collect.
  25. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 31 July 2013 00: 11 New
    0
    Sobyanin wrote on the election site after the first publication, answered the machine. So automatically and forget.
  26. ded10041948
    ded10041948 31 July 2013 00: 59 New
    +1
    Who is literate, copy and on my behalf drive to the website of the president or his administration (My computer literacy is not enough for this)

    Mr. President!
    On behalf of all members of the Armed Forces, I am addressing you as the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and simply as an OFFICER:
    In order to save the Museum and Memorial Complex of the History of the Russian Navy in the Khimki Reservoir, it is not clear on what basis it has been deprived of the status of a museum and transferred to the Department of Culture of Moscow along with recreational attractions and must be returned to it under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Defense. We run the risk of irrevocably losing one of the few remaining objects of military-patriotic education of the younger generation.
    Reserve Major Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich, Chelyabinsk. Email: [email protected]

    If you think that something needs to be corrected, do it.
    Otherwise, we do not know what we will get to!
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 31 July 2013 01: 05 New
      +1
      http://letters.kremlin.ru/send ссылка на сайт президента.
      1. ded10041948
        ded10041948 31 July 2013 01: 12 New
        0
        Thank! Now I will send it by electronic.
  27. ded10041948
    ded10041948 31 July 2013 01: 27 New
    +2
    All copy is not necessary. He drove himself in the form as it is. If you think that exceeded authority, sorry. He did as he saw fit. And what I addressed on behalf of all military personnel, so I think that everyone will support me (moral and moral military-territorial doctrine does not count!)
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 31 July 2013 01: 36 New
      0
      good drinks soldier .................
  28. vip.da78
    vip.da78 31 July 2013 01: 50 New
    +1
    Fifth column!
    1. ded10041948
      ded10041948 31 July 2013 02: 01 New
      +1
      Are you talking about (or about whom?)?
  29. pahom54
    pahom54 31 July 2013 10: 07 New
    +2
    Just as there is no prophet of their own in the Fatherland, there are no people who supposedly rule the country and its large megacities, shame and conscience, feelings of love for the history of the Fatherland. What kind of patriotic education of youth can we talk about ??? On the one hand, I am ashamed of these unfortunate leaders, and on the other hand, sometimes I want to become a sailor Zheleznyak and say to these boyars: Enough! The guard is tired!
  30. oapvokin
    oapvokin 31 July 2013 17: 43 New
    0
    It would be better if they transferred to St. Petersburg, put at the Academy V.M.F.
  31. ded10041948
    ded10041948 1 August 2013 17: 41 New
    0
    Got a response:
    Ryabtsev G.E.
    ON WORK WITH THE APPEALS OF CITIZENS
    [email protected]
    AND ORGANIZATIONS
    _________
    st. Ilyinka, d. 23, Moscow, Russian Federation, 103132
    31
    July
    20 13 g.
    * 2280036191097 * 674171
    No. A26-13-67417171
    Your appeal to the President of the Russian Federation,
    signed
    31.07.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX, received
    31.07.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX in the form
    electronic document and registered July 31.07.2013, 674171 under No. XNUMX.
    In the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Government
    Moscow requested the necessary for an objective and comprehensive
    consideration of your appeal documents and materials.
    In this regard, the period for consideration of your appeal has been extended by 30
    days (Part 2 of Article 12 of the Federal Law of May 2, 2006 No. 59-FZ “On
    the procedure for considering applications from citizens of the Russian Federation ”).
    Based on the results of the review, an answer will be sent to you
    valid until September 28.09.2013, XNUMX.
    Department Advisor
    written appeals of citizens and
    of organizations
    E. Melnik

    We will wait for the result. At least there may be at least the development of this process slows down!
  32. Amilo
    Amilo 17 November 2013 16: 52 New
    0
    11.11.2013

    Text: Central Naval Portal

    Illustration: museum-vmf.ru

    The objects of the Navy Museum park in the metropolitan museum and park complex (MPC) Severnoye Tushino cannot be used for their intended purpose, a spokesman for Mosgorpark, a government agency coordinating the activities of the capital’s Department of Culture, told the Central Naval Portal parks of culture and rest of Moscow.

    According to the source, the Moscow Construction Department did not preserve the Orlanok ekranoplan and the Skat landing craft in order to preserve them, and did not provide power to all facilities according to a permanent scheme. In addition, there are defects in previously completed works and property rights to objects are not formalized.

    "The meeting of the Moscow Mayor will discuss the proposal of the Department of Culture to the Construction Department to complete work at the facilities and put the facilities into operation no later than July 2014, and upon completion of the work, transfer the facilities to the balance of the Severnoye Tushino MPC," the spokesman added.

    Due to the incompleteness of construction work, the Moscow Department of Culture does not accept objects of the Navy Museum Park from the Department of Construction. Nevertheless, the exhibits of the Museum of the Navy Museum park may be open to visitors in July 2014 on the Day of the Navy, a spokesman for the Moscow Directorate Mosgorpark told the press service.

    “Now all the exhibits are closed, and we can’t let visitors in,” said the representative of the press service of the Severnoye Tushino MPK. “Museum objects are still on the balance sheet of the Moscow City Construction Department, which is responsible for the construction work on them. Therefore, in essence the exhibits do not belong to us. But in order not to waste time, we decided to build an exhibition pavilion on the territory adjacent to them and to ennoble the embankment. "

    The customer of the construction of the pavilion and work on the embankment is MPK Severnoy Tushino, and the contractor is a separate construction company. The commissioning of these facilities is planned for late November-early December this year.

    The Museum and Memorial Complex of the Russian Navy was attached to the Northern Tushino Culture and Leisure Park at the end of 2012 in accordance with the order of the Moscow City Department of Culture. The complex includes a large diesel submarine B-396, the Orlenok combat naval transport and landing craft, the Skat hovercraft and other artifacts of historical and educational value. In May 2013, following the results of the visiting commission from the mayor's office, the exhibits were closed for visiting due to the fact that they are objects of unfinished construction. Construction work is carried out by the Construction Department at the expense of the targeted investment program of the city of Moscow. Earlier, a spokesman for the Department of Construction said that the main construction work has already been completed.

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  33. Amilo
    Amilo 1 December 2013 12: 33 New
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    Sailor: From September 27 to October 18 this year An unscheduled field inspection of the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation was held in the Severnoye Tushino park in terms of observing museum laws and ensuring the preservation of three former naval facilities (submarines, ekranoplan and landing craft). Verification results should be reported. Waiting, sir !?

    Wait! Verification completed. The conclusions are positive. The head of the Ministry of Culture of Russia for the Central Federal District S.E. Bogatyrev in an official letter said that in the first half of 2014 museum pavilions will be built (exposition and exhibition area of ​​885 sq. M. And exhibition area of ​​118,4 sq. M.) And the safety of museum exhibits is ensured. By July 27.07.14, 396, the Day of the Russian Navy, it is planned to restore excursion service to the B submarine.
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  34. Amilo
    Amilo 1 December 2013 12: 33 New
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    Sailor: From September 27 to October 18 this year An unscheduled field inspection of the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation was held in the Severnoye Tushino park in terms of observing museum laws and ensuring the preservation of three former naval facilities (submarines, ekranoplan and landing craft). Verification results should be reported. Waiting, sir !?

    Wait! Verification completed. The conclusions are positive. The head of the Ministry of Culture of Russia for the Central Federal District S.E. Bogatyrev in an official letter said that in the first half of 2014 museum pavilions will be built (exposition and exhibition area of ​​885 sq. M. And exhibition area of ​​118,4 sq. M.) And the safety of museum exhibits is ensured. By July 27.07.14, 396, the Day of the Russian Navy, it is planned to restore excursion service to the B submarine.
    http://tushinec.ru/index.php?link=forum&f=35&t=1233&page=5