Report on the results of the survey-2013 "Evaluation of state political figures"

Introduction
In the period from 05 to 20 on June 2013, the annual survey “Evaluation of government and political figures” was conducted among visitors to the Military Review website. This is the second survey in the framework of the prolonged project - the first was conducted about a year ago in May 2012. A few preliminary notes before proceeding to the description of the survey results.


Two main reasons served as an incentive for organizing and conducting annual surveys:
  • The first relates to the problem of “transparency”, or more precisely the opacity, of the internal political activity of most of the leaders of countries in the post-Soviet space. The peoples of these countries do not have a clear idea of ​​the internal policy pursued by elected national leaders.
  • The second reason is derived from the first. People, in the conditions of the lack of official reliable information, interpret the actions of the authorities differently and, accordingly, form different, often directly opposite, opinions on this matter.

All this is reminiscent of the situation, as if several blind people, holding on to separate parts of the elephant's body — ear, trunk, tail, leg, genitals — tried to get an idea of ​​the animal as a whole and convince others that its idea was the only correct one. Meanwhile, if there was another such blind person who would have collected the separate opinions of his comrades in the big picture and then shared it with the others, then they could, together, make up an image of an elephant close to reality.
We are sighted people and see what is happening around us. But we see from our bell tower and from our point of view. After conducting a survey, we built one large common bell tower, which is higher than the individual. From its summit, individual trees are not visible, but the forest as a whole is visible, if you wish, the dense jungle of the internal politics of our countries. And now our task is to jointly understand these intricacies during a general constructive discussion of the survey results.
The survey was conducted among the regular visitors of the Military Review website. Accordingly, its results reflect the generalized opinion of this particular target audience. Had this survey been conducted among other audiences, for example, among the advocates of universal, liberal-democratic values, the result would probably have been different. Therefore, the results obtained cannot be generalized and distributed to other sectors of society or target audiences.
The survey does not have any customized or commercial background. This is a private initiative of one of the site visitors, supported and implemented by other site visitors in the interests of all visitors to the Military Review site.
The report has the following structure:
1 Part. Methodical support. Here it is said about the persons involved in the survey (the objects of evaluation), their choice, the methods of evaluation used and the content of the survey. This part is of special interest for people who want to delve into the "kitchen" of the survey. Those who prefer to immediately taste the resulting “dish” can safely skip this part and immediately proceed to the second.
2 Part. Poll results. Contains actual data obtained for individual survey items. Where possible, a comparison is made with data from last year's survey. At the end, an overview of the results is given separately for each person involved in the survey.
Topics and issues for discussion. Here are collected the proposals of survey participants, which they submit for general discussion after a preliminary review of the results.
The application. Contains free answers and comments of survey participants.
Many thanks to all survey participants who contributed to this project.

1 part. methodical support
1.1 Survey Defendants
The figures of the survey are those government officials who became the objects of evaluation of the survey participants. There were a lot of them in 2012, one might say too much - 38 objects of assessment. This list included both real politicians of the past and the present, as well as types - typical characters with a uniquely understood reputation, such as “Master”, “Patriot”, “Creator”, “Dictator”, “Timer”, “Traitor” , “The Destroyer” and others. The idea of ​​introducing types was to evaluate them simultaneously with real politicians, to see how specific a politician is close in his assessments to one or another character. However, this methodical technique caused a sluggish response from site visitors during a discussion of last year’s survey results. Therefore, this year, the types were excluded from the list of objects for evaluation.
In addition, the list of defendants in the survey was significantly reduced due to second-hand politicians or personalities who lost their relevance (G. Zyuganov, V. Zhirinovsky, S. Mironov, M. Prokhorov, A. Navalny, B. Nemtsov, G. Kasparov, etc. .).
As a result, this year only political leaders of the Soviet era and leaders of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan of the post-Soviet period acted as defendants in the poll:

  • Comrade Stalin
  • Nikita Khrushchev
  • Leonid Brezhnev
  • Mikhail Gorbachev
  • Boris Yeltsin
  • Владимир Путин
  • Dmitry Medvedev
  • Viktor Yanukovych
  • Alexander Lukashenko
  • Nursultan Nazarbayev

According to the feedback from participants-veterans of the survey, an almost fourfold reduction in the list of objects for evaluation significantly reduced the complexity of the evaluation procedure.
1.2 subject and survey content
The basis of the survey is three-factor scaling method, allowing to evaluate each politician according to the following polar criteria:

  • Strength / Activity - Weakness / Passivity
  • Morality - Immorality
  • Competence - Incompetence

Each factor assessment criterion is described by its own set of polar evaluative features, which together constitute the evaluation form. The term “scaling” in the name of the methodology means that for evaluating the person involved in a particular pair of polar features, an 7 scale is proposed:

  • three severity of a positive trait (weak, medium, strong);
  • three degrees of severity of a negative trait (weak, medium, strong);
  • one neutral answer (neither one nor the other).

We will show this on the example of the estimated pair of signs “Close to the people - Far from the people”, referring to the factor “Morality - Immorality”.
1 table. Fragment of the evaluation form.


Negative
pole

Severity

Positive
pole

Strongly

Fair

weakly

Neither
nor others

weakly

Fair

Strongly

Far from the people

-3

-2

-1

0

1

2

3

Close to the people

The resulting score for each factor is calculated as the average of the scores obtained from the corresponding sets of polar signs.
Interested readers can find a more detailed description, both of the methodology itself and of the procedure for its development, in the first publication in the framework of the project “Assessment of State Political Figures”: http://topwar.ru/13065-proekt-ocenka-gosudarstvenno-politicheskih-deyateley.html.
In addition to the main assessment methodology, this year the survey was expanded to include several topical issues that are relevant to the modern domestic political life of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.
First is the question of the guides of whose interests, above all, are the political leaders of our countries? This question provided the following answer options:

  • States
  • People
  • Elite-clan groups (ECG)
  • Self-interest
  • Interests of external forces alien to the country (foreign interests)

Since in reality it is difficult to find a politician who would concentrate his efforts only in one direction (then it would not be a politician!), Survey participants were asked to distribute conditional 100% of efforts of one or another person involved in the survey among the proposed response options in a proportion that reflects their point of view. The subsequent calculation of average values ​​based on the answers of all survey participants allowed us to build an average “profile of interests” for each person involved in the survey.
The second is the question of What type of society is actually formed in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan under the leadership of the leaders of these countries? Survey participants had to choose one answer option from those offered:

  • State socialism
  • Early "wild" capitalism
  • Society of developed market relations
  • Society of domination of elite-clan groups (ECG)
  • Society of the cult of the individual
  • Something else (free answer)

And finally, thirdly, is the question of What are the main incentives of the integration processes within the Eurasian Union? Here, also, survey participants were asked to choose one answer from those offered:

  • Mutually beneficial cooperation of independent member countries
  • The revival of the centralized state-empire
  • Satisfaction of interests of elite-clan groups of one of the participating countries
  • Something else (free answer)

In general, the questions added this year were in good agreement with the main assessment methodology, and they broadened and enriched the main topic of the poll - “Assessment of state political figures”.

2 part. survey results
The survey results are presented in the following sequence:

  • Survey Participation Level
  • Factor evaluations of the respondents of the survey-2013 according to the criteria “Strength / Activity”, “Morality”, “Competence”, as well as comparative data using the same criteria for 2012-2013 years;
  • Evaluation of the distribution of interests of the respondents among the various political forces (whose leaders are the leaders of four countries in the post-Soviet space);
  • Assessment of intra-and interstate relations (what type of society are formed in four countries and what are the main motives of the integration processes within the Eurasian Union).
  • Overview of the survey results by individual defendants.

2.1 survey participation level
At different stages of the survey, a different number of visitors to the Military Review website related to it. Both in the past and this year there was a tendency to decrease in the number of people involved in the project as it develops, starting from the moment of publication of the survey announcement and ending with the return of the completed questionnaires.
2 table. Dynamics of participation in the survey.


Stages of the survey

2012 year

2013 year

people

in% of
1 point

people

in% of
1 point

  • Expressed a preliminary intention to participate in the survey (publication of the announcement)

208

100%

649

100%

  • They sent applications for participation in the survey and received questionnaires

172

82,7%

360

55,5%

  • Returned completed questionnaires

127

61,1%

268

41,3%

From the table it can be seen that the actual number of survey participants increased more than twice this year compared with the previous year. However, there is still a high percentage of visitors to the site who, in one way or another, responded to the invitation to take part in the survey, but failed to bring their spiritual impulse to its logical conclusion.
Of the total number of survey participants (127 in 2012 year and 268 in 2013 year), various categories of respondents were:
3 table. The ratio of categories of respondents.


By country of residence

2012 year

2013 year

  • From Russia

80 people

63,0%

194 people

72,4%

  • From other CIS countries, excluding Russia

14

11,0%

30

11,2%

  • From the rest of the world

4

3,1%

0

0,0%

  • Did not specify the country of residence

29

22,9%

44

16,4%

Total:

127

100%

268

100%

According to the age

2012 year

2013 year

  • Before 30 years

25 people

19,7%

66 people

24,6%

  • From 30 50 years up

37

29,1%

104

38,9%

  • Over 50 years

33

26,0%

54

20,1%

  • Not specified age category

32

25,2%

44

16,4%

Total:

127

100%

268

100%

Compared to the previous year, the percentage of respondents from Russia increased noticeably (72,4% versus 63,0%). The percentage of survey participants from other CIS countries remained virtually unchanged and remained at the level of 11%. This year there were no guests from other countries of the world among the survey participants.
In 2013, the composition of survey participants was noticeably younger - the number of respondents in the older age category decreased from 26% to 20,1%, while the number of mature survey participants increased from 29,1% to 38,9%. The younger age category also grew from 19,7% to 24,6%.
2.2 factor estimates of survey respondents
For each of the three factors, the averages of the political leaders range from “+ 3” (expressed strength / activity, morality and competence) to “-3” (expressed antipodal qualities - weakness / passivity, immorality and incompetence). In addition to the average estimates, it is useful to know how many respondents gave generally positive, negative, or close to neutral assessments. To estimate the percentage of such respondents, let's agree to break the entire theoretical range of estimates from + 3 to -3 into three areas:

  • The area of ​​neutral ratings close to zero (from -0,5 to 0,5);
  • The area of ​​positive ratings (from 0,51 to 3,0);
  • The area of ​​negative ratings (from -0,51 to -3,0).

Now you can calculate what percentage of respondents fall into one or another area with your own estimates. The diagrams in this subsection use both data sets, both the percentage of respondents who attributed the respondents to one of the three designated areas, and the average estimates of the respondents shown to the right of the percentage distribution diagrams. At the same time, for convenience of perception of diagrams, the list of respondents of the survey is ranked from the politician with the highest average rating to the politician with the lowest average rating.
1) Strength / Activity - Weakness / Passivity
This is the first significant polar factor out of three that have been specially allocated for assessing state and political figures. In the assessment methodology, such pairs are presented as “active – passive”, “master – slave”, “energetic – sluggish”, “decisive – indecisive”, “confident-unsure”, “hard-soft-bodied”, “having a pivot-spineless” .

1 chart. The percentage distribution of ratings by the factor "Strength / Activity" in the survey-xnumx.
Strength / Activity Area

Here, in the field of neutral assessments, for the first time, the statistical rule of the “first bell” appears, which is derived from the practice of sociological research:
If the level of positive marks falls below 50% or the bar of negative marks rises above 20%, then the object (or subject) of these marks is at risk according to the evaluated criterion.
Now we see this in the example of Leonid Brezhnev, who, having the “Strength / Activity” factor, has a formally neutral average rating (0,23), received two “calls” - the number of positive ratings is below the 50% level and the number of negative ratings is above the 20% level Further, when considering other factors, we will encounter cases when “calls” appear even with positive (rather than neutral) average ratings.
2) Factor "Morality - Immorality"
The second most important polar factor out of three, specially allocated for the assessment of state and political figures. The appraisal method presents such pairs of signs as “clean - dirty”, “your own - alien”, “light - dark”, “trusting - suspicious”, “close to the people - far from the people”, “strengthening the country - destroying the country "," Inspiring hope - bringing disappointment. "

2 chart. The percentage distribution of ratings on the factor "morality" in the survey-xnumx.
Area of ​​morality

In assessing moral qualities, in the case of Putin and Nazarbayev, we once again encounter the “first call” rule noted above. With sufficiently satisfactory average ratings and the prevalence of respondents who gave positive ratings on this factor, the number of respondents who considered them immoral politicians exceeded the 20% level.
The area of ​​neutral ratings on the “Morality” factor turned out to be empty. This year, respondents clearly polarized all respondents of the survey or as moral, or as immoral politicians, the average is not given.
3) Factor "competence - incompetence"
The third largest polar factor of the three, specifically allocated to assess the state and political figures. The appraisal method includes such pairs of signs as “competent - incompetent”, “far-sighted - short-sighted”, “looking at the root - superficial”, “with the king in the head - empty”, “uncommon - mediocre”, “skillful - unskillful”, “ experienced - inexperienced.

3 chart. The percentage distribution of ratings on the factor "Competence" in the survey-xnumx.
Area of ​​expertise

4) comparison of factor scores from two surveys
The survey “Evaluation of state political figures” was originally conceived as a prolonged study, and now we have the opportunity to compare the first two results - 2012 and 2013. Of course, on the basis of only two sections it is still too early to judge any tendencies, but food for thought can be obtained.
Comparison of factor estimates of the respondents will be conducted on the basis of differences in average ratings (deltas)formed by subtracting last year's estimates from this year's estimates.
4 table. Comparison of average ratings from 2012 and 2013 polls.


Politician

Strength / Activity

Moral

Competence

2012

2013

Delta

2012

2013

Delta

2012

2013

Delta

Stalin

2,73

2,77

0,04

1,09

1,75

0,66

2,49

2,58

0,09

Khrushchev

1,58

1,26

-0,33

-0,33

-0,76

-0,43

-0,35

-0,81

-0,46

Brezhnev

0,26

0,23

-0,03

0,71

0,89

0,18

0,49

0,50

0,01

Gorbachev

-0,63

-0,62

0,01

-2,12

-2,39

-0,27

-1,68

-1,63

0,05

Yeltsin

0,92

-0,01

-0,93

-1,63

-1,96

-0,33

-1,06

-1,43

-0,37

Putin

2,27

2,05

-0,22

1,05

0,83

-0,22

1,93

1,80

-0,13

Medvedev

-0,59

-1,00

-0,41

-0,44

-1,32

-0,88

-0,53

-1,14

-0,60

Yanukovych

-0,07

-0,01

0,06

-1,12

-1,40

-0,29

-0,61

-0,64

-0,03

Lukashenko

2,69

2,59

-0,09

1,59

2,00

0,41

1,85

2,11

0,25

Nazarbayev

2,13

1,54

-0,59

1,24

0,64

-0,60

2,29

1,54

-0,76

The table presents the entire set of average ratings - for all the persons involved and for all three factors. By focusing on the delta columns, we can see a wide variety of changes in average ratings, ranging from the most positive (for example, Comrade Stalin's Morality factor) to the most negative ones (for example, Boris Yeltsin by Force / Activity factor). "Or Dmitry Medvedev by the factor" Morality ").
To somehow streamline the picture of changes, we will conduct two simple procedures. First, let us rank the absolute values ​​(without taking into account the sign) of all the "delta" from the maximum to the minimum values, and then we divide the resulting series into four quartile ranges:

  • «Minor changes"Includes absolute delta values ​​from 0,01 to 0,08
  • «Moderate changes"- from 0,08 to 0,28
  • «Major changes"- from 0,28 to 0,49
  • «Strong changes"- from 0,49 to 0,93

Now, by constructing a graph of changes in average values ​​and applying the delta classification introduced, we describe the results obtained.
4 chart. Changes in average values ​​of factor scores from surveys in 2012 and 2013.


The overall picture of change. It can be seen from the diagram that most of the changes in the factor estimates of the respondents are negative. On the general minor background, there are literally several major bursts, such as the assessments of Stalin, Brezhnev and Lukashenko on the “Morality” factor and the assessment of the same Lukashenko on the “Competence” factor.
Changes in individual survey defendants.
Comrade Stalin, in the eyes of respondents, rose insignificantly by the “Strength / Activity” factor (there is nowhere above!), but it significantly increased in its moral qualities and moderately in terms of competence.
Grades Nikita Khrushchev, for all three factors, declined significantly in 2013 year over last year.
Grades Leonid Brezhnev on the factors of strength / activity and competence remained stable, one can say, we fell asleep with satisfaction at the achieved level, and the assessments of moral qualities, as already noted above, increased moderately.
Grades Mikhail Gorbachev insignificantly changed according to the factors of strength / activity and competence and moderately decreased according to the factor of morality.
Boris Yeltsin, according to the respondents' estimates, the strength / activity factor was very lowered and significantly lost due to the other two factors, morality and competence.
All the politicians just examined have already completed their state activities and accomplished everything that they could and wanted to accomplish. Therefore, the recorded changes in their assessments are largely due to our reassessment of their personalities and what they have done. These are changes in our perception in historical run.
The next five statesmen and politicians are still acting and are “on execution”. Therefore, changes in their estimates have a different causation. These changes, for the most part, occur in response to the policies, decisions and actions that they carry out here and now. This, if I may say so, is the change of ratings in the online mode.
Владимир ПутинIn the survey respondents' estimates, moderately dipped in all three factors - strength / activity, morality and competence.
Dmitry Medvedev Significantly surrendered the existing positions on the force / activity factor and very strongly on the factors of morality and competence.
Grades Viktor Yanukovych on factors of strength / activity and competence changed insignificantly, whereas on the factor of morality decreased in a noticeable way.
Alexander Lukashenko moderately lost in evaluations by the force / activity factor, however, it significantly increased in the evaluations by the moral factor and moderately by the competence factor.
Nursultan Nazarbayev very much lost in the estimates for all three factors.
Finishing the description of changes in factor assessments, we note two remarkable facts. The first is that the main changes in factor assessments are due to a reassessment of the moral qualities of the respondents - the total size of changes in the moral factor is twice as high as for strength / activity and competence factors. The second observation concerns politicians of the past and current politicians - the assessments of current politicians are subject to revisions more than those of politicians who have left the political scene.

2.3 assessment of the distribution of interests of politicians
The survey participants-2013 were asked to answer the question “Guides whose interests, in your opinion, are or were persons involved in the survey?". Since in reality it is difficult to find a politician who would concentrate his efforts only in one direction, they were asked to distribute conditional 100% of the interests of politicians between the following answers:

  • On the state
  • On the people
  • For elite clan groups (ECG)
  • To myself
  • On the interests of external, alien to the country forces (on foreign)

The results are presented in two diagrams. The first covers the politicians of the past, the second - the current politicians.
5 chart. The distribution of interests of politicians of past years.


Politicians of the Soviet era
    • Comrade Stalin: on the state - 66,9%; on the people - 27,5%; for elite clan groups - 1,8%; on itself - 3,5%; to external forces alien to the country - 0,2%. The dominant interest is the state, in second place is the people.
    • Nikita Khrushchev: on the state - 37,4%; on the people - 20,5%; for elite clan groups - 21,0%; on itself - 16,5%; to external forces alien to the country - 4,7%. The dominant interest is the state, on 2-4 places - the interests of the people, elite-clan groups (party-Soviet nomenclature) and their own interests.
    • Leonid Brezhnev: on the state - 37,4%; on the people - 20,5%; for elite clan groups - 21,0%; on itself - 16,5%; to external forces alien to the country - 1,3%. The dominant interest is the state, on 2-3 places the interests of the people and the party-Soviet nomenclature.

Politicians of the collapse of the USSR

    • Mikhail Gorbachev: on the state - 5,8%; on the people - 5,7%; for elite clan groups - 19,5%; on itself - 18,7%; to external forces alien to the country - 50,4%. The interests of external, alien to the country forces dominate, on 2-3 places the interests of the party-Soviet nomenclature and their own interests prevail.
    • Boris Yeltsin: on the state - 6,6%; on the people - 4,2%; for elite clan groups - 35,6%; on itself - 23,6%; to external forces alien to the country - 29,5%. The interests of elite-clan groups dominate, at 2-3 places the interests of external, alien to the country forces and their own interests.

In general, from Stalin to Yeltsin, there is a tendency to a decrease in the state interests and interests of the people. Beginning with Khrushchev, the interests of elite-clan groups and their own interests of politicians are actualized and developed. In the period of the collapse of the USSR, a surge of interests is being given to external forces alien to the country.
6 chart. Distribution of interests of current politicians.

  • Владимир Путин: on the state - 39,3%; on the people - 18,1%; for elite clan groups - 24,8%; on itself - 11,9%; to external forces alien to the country - 5,9%. The dominant interests are state, combined with the interests of elite-clan groups. The interests of the people are in the 3 place.
  • Dmitry Medvedev: on the state - 18,0%; on the people - 9,1%; for elite clan groups - 39,6%; on itself - 14,8%; to external forces alien to the country - 18,4%. The interests of elite-clan groups dominate, in 2-3 places the interests of the state and forces alien to the country are distributed in the same proportion.
  • Viktor Yanukovych: on the state - 12,9%; on the people - 7,0%; for elite clan groups - 38,0%; on itself - 22,2%; to external forces alien to the country - 20,0%. The interests of elite-clan groups are dominant, at 2-3 places their own interests and the interests of forces alien to the country.
  • Alexander Lukashenko: on the state - 49,4%; on the people - 31,1%; for elite clan groups - 7,6%; on itself - 10,7%; to external forces alien to the country - 1,2%. The dominant interests of the state are combined with the interests of the people.
  • Nursultan Nazarbayev: on the state - 31,5%; on the people - 18,9%; for elite clan groups - 25,3%; on itself - 17,9%; to external forces alien to the country - 6,3%. The dominant interests are state, combined with the interests of elite-clan groups. The interests of the people and their own interests - on 3-4 places.

Of the entire galaxy of current politicians stands out Alexander LukashenkoIn terms of its profile of distribution of interests, it most of all resembles state-political figures of the Soviet era.
Very similar, except for small details, profiles Vladimir Putin and Nursultan Nazarbayev - domination of state interests in conjunction with the interests of elite-clan groups. At the same time, attention is paid to the interests of the people and their own interests are not forgotten.
Another pair of politicians with similar profiles - Dmitry Medvedev and Viktor Yanukovich. For them, according to survey respondents, the interests of elite clan groups are clearly leading interests. The interests of external alien forces, personal interests and the interests of the state are lined up in the wake of them. The interests of the people - on the periphery.
2.4 evaluation of intra-and intergovernmental relations
This section addresses two questions asked by survey participants — 2013.
First question: "What type of society, in your opinion, is actually formed in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan under the leadership of the leaders of these countries?"To answer this question, six alternatives were suggested:

  • State socialism;
  • Early "wild" capitalism
  • Developed capitalism (market society)
  • Society of domination of elite-clan groups (ECG)
  • Society of the cult of the individual
  • Something else (free answer)

7 chart. The percentage distribution of answers about the types of societies formed.

Russia
  • 48,8% of respondents believe that a society of domination of elite-clan groups is formed in Russia;
  • 14,9% - a market economy society (developed capitalism);
  • 8,3% - early “wild” capitalism;
  • According to 7,4%, state socialism and a cult society of an individual are believed to form in Russia;
  • 13,2% offered their answers

Ukraine

  • 78,7% of respondents believe that a society of domination of elite clan groups is formed in / in Ukraine;
  • 13,1% - early “wild” capitalism;
  • 2,5% - a market economy society (developed capitalism);
  • 5,7% offered their answers.
  • The opinion that state socialism is being formed on / in Ukraine, or none of the respondents expressed a society of a cult of an individual.

Belarus

  • 67,8% of respondents believe that a society of state socialism is being formed in Belarus;
  • 16,5% - the society of the cult of the individual;
  • 5,8% - the society of domination of elite-clan groups;
  • 4,1% - a market economy society (developed capitalism);
  • 1,7% - early “wild” capitalism;
  • 4,1% offered their answers.

Kazakhstan

  • 52,5% of respondents believe that a society of domination of elite clan groups is formed in Kazakhstan;
  • 22,0% - the society of the cult of the individual;
  • 11,9% - a market economy society (developed capitalism);
  • According to 5,1,% of respondents believe that state socialism or early “wild” capitalism is forming in Kazakhstan;
  • 3,4% offered their answers.

The second question, in the framework of the division of intra-and interstate relations, concerned the Eurasian Union: “What are the main motives of the integration processes within the Eurasian Union?". To answer it, there were four possible answers:

  • Mutually beneficial cooperation of independent member countries;
  • The revival of the centralized state of the empire;
  • Satisfaction of interests of elite-clan groups of one of the participating countries;
  • Something else (free answer).

8 chart. The percentage distribution of answers about the motives for the creation of the Eurasian Union.

Report on the results of the survey-2013 "Evaluation of state political figures"

The predominant number of respondents (45%) considered that the leading motive of the integration processes within the framework of the Eurasian Union is the mutually beneficial cooperation of independent member countries.
Another 25% of respondents believe that such a motive is the revival of a centralized state-empire.
19% of survey participants see the integration processes as the basis for the satisfaction of the interests of elite-clan groups of one of the participating countries.
The remaining 11% offered their answers.
The results obtained for the Eurasian Union are somewhat inconsistent with the results regarding the type of societies formed in the participating countries. In fact, how can the three societies of domination of elite-clan groups (Russia, Ukraine and Kazakhstan) and the society of state socialism (Belarus) cooperate mutually beneficially among themselves? There is an association of three spiders in a single bank, where a bee flew by mistake. More realistic are the options for reviving the centralized state-empire and / or meeting the interests of elite-clan groups of one of the participating countries. However, if we combine these two answers into one, as complementary to each other, then we will get 44% of respondents at the output - practical parity with 45% of respondents who support the mutually beneficial cooperation of independent participating countries.

2.5 survey of survey results by individual defendants
In this section, all the results obtained in the 2012 and 2013 surveys are briefly accumulated - the prevailing opinions of survey participants, emerging trends and patterns.
Past politicians

  1. Comrade Stalin. Having quite high or medium positive factor estimates from the results of last year’s survey, this year Stalin grew insignificantly in terms of the strength / activity factor, very strongly in the morality factor and moderately in the competence factor. Stalin - one of the few defendants in the survey, whose moral qualities have been overestimated over the past year for the better.
  2. Nikita Khrushchev. According to the results of last year's survey, Khrushchev had a stable positive assessment on the strength / activity factor and neutral negative evaluations on the factors of morality and competence. This year, his assessments were significantly revised downwards for all three factors. Now Khrushchev looks like a politician with moderate strength / activity, quite immoral and equally incompetent.
  3. Leonid Brezhnev. For the year that passed between the two surveys, Brezhnev practically remained at his own assessments on the factors of strength / activity and competence, and he moderately increased on the moral factor. Now, according to the interviewed respondents, he had neutral power / activity, the same competence, and poorly expressed morality.
  4. Mikhail Gorbachev. According to the results of last year's survey, Gorbachev gained a reputation as a weak / passive politician with marked immorality and incompetence. According to these indicators, he was close to such typical characters as “The Traitor”, “The Provider” and “Amateur”. This year, he confirmed his status in terms of weakness / passivity and incompetence. According to the moral factor, the fall in the ratings continued ...
  5. Boris Yeltsin. Last year’s portrait of Yeltsin was defined by a weakly pronounced power / activity combined with obvious immorality and incompetence. The survey participants of this year have very strongly corrected his estimates by the force / activity factor - they fell to zero. Immorality and incompetence of Yeltsin, recorded last year, this became even more pronounced.

Current policies

  1. Владимир Путин. Last year’s Putin’s factor assessments attributed him to the category of exemplary politicians — strong power / activity, moderate morality, and sufficient competence. The image of a "strong hand", moderately clean, equipped with a clever head. Recall that this portrait was "drawn" after the presidential election, during the inauguration. Over the past year, the portrait has faded slightly - Putin has moderately “sunk” in all three indicators: strength / activity, morality and competence. The decline was not critical and allowed the Russian president to keep the “face” at an acceptable level. But the first “bell” on the moral factor rang out - the number of respondents who attributed it to immoral politicians exceeded the 20% level. In the profile of the distribution of interests of Putin, as a politician, in the first place are state interests, which is not new in itself. Any sane leader of a country that exists in an unfriendly environment, should attend to the construction of his house, because "my home is my castle." Another question, what happens behind the walls of this fortress? The profile of the distribution of Putin’s interests suggests an answer to this question - in tandem with the state interests there are interests of elite-clan groups; interests of the people for the president of Russia - in third place. In the light of the factor estimates adjusted for the year and the current profile of the distribution of interests, the type of society formed in Russia under the leadership of Putin - the society of domination of elite clan groups - seems logical.
  2. Dmitry Medvedev. The ex-president of Russia was accompanied by participants of last year’s poll for the post of prime minister of the Russian Federation with unflattering factor assessments: weak / passive, immoral and incompetent. This year, already in the status of prime minister, Medvedev aggravated his assessments in the eyes of survey participants, becoming, from their point of view, even weaker / passive, immoral and incompetent. Especially immoral - the largest drop in indicators among all the respondents of the survey. The profile of the distribution of interests of Medvedev is dominated by the interests of elite-clan groups. Apparently not everyone, but only those who, in turn, represent the interests of external forces alien to Russia. All this is camouflaged by the interests of the state. The interests of the people - at the end of the list. The rhetorical question is - who needs such a prime minister? The rhetorical answer - if the "stars" are lit, it means that someone needs it.
  3. Viktor Yanukovych. For the year that has passed between the two surveys, the assessment of the President of Ukraine on the factors of strength / activity and competence did not change significantly. For survey participants, he is still unclear with regard to power qualities and, on the contrary, is completely transparent in terms of his incompetence. As for moral qualities, there was a significant reappraisal from the simply immoral to the clearly immoral. The profile of the distribution of interests corresponds to such an assessment - first of all, these are the interests of elite-clan groups, their own interests and the interests of external forces alien to the country. The interests of the country and its people are somewhere far to the periphery. In Ukraine, according to survey participants, a society of domination of elite clan groups is formed without options.
  4. Alexander Lukashenko. The President of Belarus, in his factorial estimates, is closest, of all the defendants in the poll, to the estimates of the founder of the USSR, Comrade Stalin. Apparently because Belarus, under his leadership, is a protected area, where the spirit of the Soviet era is still felt. True, the Old Man for the year that has passed between the two polls, slightly passed in terms of strength / activity, but increased significantly in terms of morality (here he even surpassed Stalin) and competence. Lukashenko is the only acting politician whose interests are almost entirely subordinated to the interests of the country and its people. It is not surprising that the respondents are confident that a socialist-type society with a certain touch of personality cult is being formed in Belarus.
  5. Nursultan Nazarbayev. One could simply indicate: see point 6) “Vladimir Putin”. But there are nuances. First of all, in the interval between the two polls, the President of Kazakhstan, more noticeably Putin, passed on all three indicators - strength / activity, morality and competence. Now it is not superstrong and overactive, but simply strong and active, not moral enough, but weakly moral, not very competent, but simply a competent politician. Decrease in power / activity factor estimates can be explained by age. But age cannot influence either moral qualities (unless it aggravate them), nor policy competence (the old fox is a wise fox). Obviously, the reason for the decline of Nazarbayev’s assessments should be sought in the actions and decisions taken by him during this period. Nazarbayev’s profile of interest distribution is also similar to Putin’s profile. Prevails a bunch of interests of the state and elite-clan groups. Or rather, not groups, but one clan group - Nazarbayev's “family”. Other clan groups are not admitted to the power resource, but they are in a state of expectation and readiness for the redistribution of power and property - as soon as, immediately ... The interests of the people and Nazarbayev’s own interests, in the opinion of survey participants, occupy him roughly equally. From here emerges the type of society formed in Kazakhstan - the society of the domination of a certain clan group, formed on the basis of a tribal tribe, led by its nominee. East, however!

Topics and questions for discussion
Survey participants had the opportunity to familiarize themselves with its results before other visitors to the Military Review website. Accordingly, they had time to reflect on the results and bring to the general discussion a number of topics and questions that are relevant from their point of view:

  1. I did not like the large number of site visitors who wished to participate in the survey, who sent the application, but did not return the completed questionnaire. What is this - extreme employment, disbelief in the fact that something can be changed, or the fear of "relevant authorities"?
  2. In a historical retrospective, after Stalin’s death, we are witnessing a consistent evolution of the domination of elite clan groups. Under Khrushchev and Brezhnev, a de facto party-Soviet nomenclature arose. She possessed power, but could not take full advantage of her fruits, limited by socialist principles. Under Gorbachev and Yeltsin, socialist legality is scrapped, the nomenklatura de jure secures state ownership. In the 21st century, the next stage of elite-clan evolution in the post-Soviet space is underway: the intraspecific struggle of “spiders in the bank” for the monopolistic possession of powerful, financial and material resources. If so, then how acceptable is the evolutionary path of development of our society at this stage - the path of gradual consolidation of the “historical gains” of the elite stratum?
  3. Continuation of the previous thesis. While leading the intraspecific struggle, “spiders in the bank” should take care of strengthening the walls of this bank, since beyond its borders there are more dangerous spiders of world scale. That is why elite-clan groups are forced to strengthen the state, in particular its defense capability.
  4. In the survey, when assessing the distribution of interests of political leaders, the concepts of "state" and "people" are separated. It turns out that the pursuit of the interests of the state (for example, the strengthening of defense) does not automatically mean concern for the interests of the people. How justified is this breeding of concepts? Especially in modern conditions?
  5. To what problems, external or internal, does the first person of the state pay more attention? The same question concerns the political leaders of the past.
  6. What state system would you like to see in your country?
  7. How do you see the development of the Eurasian Union?
  8. Is the collegial management of the Eurasian Union possible?
  9. How will the Eurasian Union differ from the European Union?
  10. Will the Eurasian Union repeat the path of the European Union?
  11. Relation to the removal of the body V.I. Lenin from the mausoleum.
  12. Analysis of the status and conclusions on the combat readiness of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the middle of 2013.
  13. Democratic Federal Law "On Elections" and the fictitiousness of the powers of the deputies of the State Duma.
  14. Analysis of the true number of homeless children, orphans, abandoned children in the Russian Federation and ways to solve the problem.
  15. Compliance with the constitutional rights of citizens of the Russian Federation (post-item) by the state and by the citizens themselves and their analysis.

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The annex contains free answers and comments of survey participants regarding the type of society formed in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan, as well as integration processes within the Eurasian Union.
About Russia

  • It is impossible to determine at this stage. In my opinion, at this stage of the country's development, there is a confrontation between the liberal-market group and the group of power structures. The leader of the country, unfortunately, does not yet have strong power.
  • Constitutional capitalism. It is a pity that the state neglects the rich experience of socialism in state affairs and government.
  • Society is on the verge of moving from wild capitalism to the return of state socialism. If the GDP brings its undertakings to a logical conclusion, then in Russia a new system of government can be formed.
  • At present, there is a struggle in Russia between statesmen and business clans. Putin stands over the fray and resolves to prevent the country from being completely smashed (like a referee). To the people these options are both worse, as Stalin said. In the near future, I think, the people will begin to hibernate and provide their own - the third option. More precisely - the work will go on its implementation. The task is to build a society in which the exploitation of man by man in any form (in the continuity of generations) would be eliminated. That's right, probably call it communism. Difference from socialism, which was in the USSR in that there these goals were only declared, but not implemented (after Stalin's death).
  • In my opinion, we are moving towards creating a symbiosis of state socialism and developed market relations, but different variations are possible on the way.
  • Society of "wild" capitalism driven by elite-clan groups.
  • Society on the verge of change in a REVOLUTIONARY way. The betrayal of the interests of the state without taking into account the opinion of the Russian People, the corruption of the authorities and their desire to integrate into the GLOBAL business by selling Russian assets ...
  • State megacorporation.
  • Society of gangster-corrupt capitalism.
  • Society of market-state socialism. This implies open market relations with other states with a socialist bias within the country.
  • Autocracy of GDP, taking into account the interests of the elite-clan group (their own).
  • Since there are "untouchables", it means that the clans rule, and only their interests are served by domestic policy in the country.
  • To a large extent, the group of "its St. Petersburg", without the slightest sign of responsibility for any decisions taken and extremely small competence (rather incompetence).
  • Not about us capitalism. Give me back as I was when I was born !!!
  • Today, a half-sovereign colony of the international Jewish financial mafia is making weak attempts at independence.
  • And etc.

About Ukraine

  • The country has not decided where to go.
  • Already want to cry ...
  • Outside Ukraine, the primacy of national minorities was approved, which conducts its policy, outside the interests of the majority of the population.
  • The state is heterogeneous. Some regional political movements compete with others. There is a possibility of division of the country.
  • It is not clear what is going on there at all.
  • Just as in the Russian Federation. The poor are poorer, the wealthy, respectively, are getting richer. Also visible is the clan fight for financial flows.
  • Ukraine, in fact, is part of Russia, therefore, as an independent state (besides opposing Russia to itself), it is untenable and the emergence of a developed and just social system is impossible there.
  • All the same as in Russia, but with a delay.
  • Although he is also a Ukrainian by nationality, but the Ukrainians right now have been shocked tightly !!!
  • In Ukraine, one gang replaces another - the results for the people are getting worse and worse ...
  • In my opinion, the collapse of Ukraine is inevitable.
  • The entire composition of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, the laws they pass, and the actions of President Yanukovych confirm that the clans are being serviced, not the people.
  • The "elite" of Ukraine is occupied with shameless robbery, without thinking about the future of the country.
  • The rule of capital, legal nihilism, cronyism, demagoguery in parliament, the lack of reform.
  • Tearing apart the square ... very sorry! Some to the west, others to the east are torn !!!
  • In Ukraine, the phase of "Russia 90-x" - the disorder and disorder of the state. devices. And the people endure all this ...
  • Strong looks like the relations of ancient Russia.
  • Society is anarchy
  • It seems to me that they are trying to make the country just a territory with a different history, without its own culture, and alien to its fraternal peoples!
  • Society of the domination of Russophobic structures. Ukraine lives as a state on the basis of the rejection of Russia, if this vector had not acted, the unity of the people would have happened.
  • Society in "free flight". The government has no will either to choose the path of development or to direct public opinion in any direction.
  • Specially created for the collapse of Great Russia nedogosudarstvo non-existent nation, a colony of international Jewish financial mafia.
  • And etc.

About Belarus

  • Of course, not like in the USSR, but very close to it.
  • The most socially oriented state, despite certain problems, is quite competent and thinking about its citizens, the head of state.
  • Perhaps the management model, the society that has been created and is functioning, is the most capable of surviving in today's world.
  • And what is there to comment? The Soviet Union in a single republic (in the good sense of the word), the fact that Lukashenko has not yet thrown off the merit of Russia and the non-resistance of the Belarusians, because of the lack of demand for "wild" capitalism on the example of Russia. The state, in the good sense of the word, patronizes its people, taking payment as a political monotony.
  • Much remained, as in the USSR, some of the names did not even change, and given the economic blockade, practically from the West, Lukashenko copes very well.
  • A lot is being done to develop the social life of the people and it is the interests of the people and the whole country that are upheld.
  • In spite of everything, they managed to preserve both industry and agriculture, and cultural values ​​were not so ruined.
  • The only of the Soviet republics, where there is at least something from the common past ....
  • Market relations are underdeveloped. But: incomparably lesser corruption and the dominance of criminal bureaucracy.
  • A society of distorted capitalism with the remnants of socialism.
  • The society of state socialism with permitted private initiative, but under strict state control.
  • State capitalism. At the moment, the economy of the Republic of Belarus is built on the principles of capitalist economic management, but with the state ownership of the main means of production.
  • The fragment of Great Russia, with great difficulty preserving Russian originality. Under certain conditions, it can become an outpost of the struggle for the full sovereignty of Great Russia.
  • And etc.

About Kazakhstan

  • It is a pragmatic system (with its "cockroaches"). In relation to Russia, he is maneuvering in the style of "both yours and ours".
  • In the Republic of Kazakhstan, the situation is similar to Ukraine and the Russian Federation. Nazarbayev is a lifelong president, but the struggle of the clans is not going anywhere, and with his departure will move to another plane.
  • The most pronounced clan management, which is always in fact unstable and dangerous for the integrity of the country.
  • Typical for Central Asian states.
  • Returned to the historically familiar methods of government heads of clans.
  • They return to where they came to the USSR.
  • In fact, this is the state of prevalence of a single clan group, namely, the "family". The rest of course try, but it turns out weakly.
  • Also with national inclinations! More and more we have screamers against the Russians and Russia !!! Nazarbayev current seems good. I live here - I see everything, I often go to different regions, I try not to climb the south!
  • A certain emirate on the Soviet territory and a platform (spare) for world elites, after an hour "X".
  • Well, here is a time bomb situation. Nazarbayev, of course, is a man corresponding to his country, but he is already “running out” (health, age, etc.). Who will be after him is not clear ... After his departure (in all senses), "fun" will begin. Too big contradictions between the clans.
  • East, however. In another way there will not be very soon.
  • In a country dominated by tribal relations, another version of society is impossible.
  • society market cult of the individual. Enough masterfully hidden, behind the actively developing market relations, the cult of a strong personality, which, in general, is not bad for the south-eastern neighbors.
  • Nazarbayev khanate, colony of the international Jewish financial mafia.
  • And etc.

About the Eurasian Union

  • Union of currencies and industries only with the consent (referendum) of the majority of residents. No forced intake.
  • The whole world is united, no one can survive alone
  • Nee A.G. Lukashenko, nor N. Nazarbayev, disagree on the revival of the centralized state. At the same time, they rather tightly control their "elites". The “elite” of Russia really wants to cling to the resources of Belarus and Kazakhstan, which naturally causes rejection from its neighbors.
  • Creating a powerful economic and military-political bloc, to ensure its economic and territorial security.
  • Without the centralization of the country of the former USSR can only vegetate. Fragmentation is an indicator of the weakness of our countries. Worldwide presidential elections allow the United States to change objectionable rulers at any time. And only a new union headed by Russia can resist this. Because either we will be united, economically and politically (but not even necessarily within common borders), or our countries will ultimately be finally fragmented and turn into even colonies unable to feed themselves.
  • The construction of a single state is now hardly possible. Such things are carried out during the Great War. Rather, we need to talk about the attempt to form the Eurasian Confederation with all the consequences.
  • Can not be forced.
  • I would like to believe in the revival of the empire, but for now it's just an attempt to satisfy everyone
  • As you do not call a radish, it will not become sweeter. All, especially the huge, supranational, unions are ultimately the suppression of one national culture over another or the parasitism of one or several nations over the others. Let us recall the history of the USSR — the national suburbs (the Caucasus, the republics of Central Asia — they lived there in the direction themselves) were parasites and lived much better than the peoples of Russia. And now we practically have no state property, which was previously state people's property, property now belongs to private individuals, which means that the Eurasian Union will continue to meet the interests of these same owners in the future. But at the moment it may be some kind of raft.
  • This is the only opportunity for former allied countries, including our country, in opposing the aggression of the established regime of other countries.
  • The need to survive in a hostile environment. It should be noted that production ties were broken "live". At least partially they should be restored.
  • This is a defensive alliance in terms of economics and politics.
  • Games and "throwing" economies by constantly changing rules, although everyone understands - IT IS NECESSARY TO UNITE. Such maneuvering will allow Russia to hold out for a while, although if nothing changes (in the near future), then all the same everything will collapse ...
  • About ECG: understanding that one by one they will simply be devoured. Well, the fear of losing power and other benefits in the period until they eat.
  • There is a subtle and dangerous political game of all the major world centers of power for and against integration, in which everyone conceals true motives and goals from everyone. The reward to the winner will be dominance in the world of years, approximately, on 100. For Russia, the loss will be fraught with collapse. Loss is possible if Russia does not get rid of the "fifth column". Victory is possible if, with God's help, a Russian patriotic elite and a national leader with the will to fight for freedom and full sovereignty appear in Russia.
  • Historical ties of the peoples, established during the USSR.
  • Unsupported attempt to form the 2-th pole of power on our ball, after the collapse of the USSR.
  • And etc.
Survey developer and coordinator: Stanislav Vasilenko (just Vasilich)
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  1. tronin.maxim 30 July 2013 06: 39 New
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    Old Man Lukoshenko leads, as can be seen from his deeds for the people!
    1. Yegorchik 30 July 2013 09: 38 New
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      Russia needs a president of this type as Lukashenko. A person in a country with very limited resources has not crushed the social sphere, the state is trying to help the common man to the best of its power. Industry and agriculture feed the country as it should, the population does not die out like Russians and is not replaced gastrobaiters under the pretext that they don’t want to work. In principle, everything is very simple, one person knows how to manage the state, the other through the media convinces his own population that he knows how to manage the state.
      1. Raiven
        Raiven 30 July 2013 10: 01 New
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        well, not really, we are having a decrease in population, work is being done but slowly
      2. NUT
        NUT 31 July 2013 12: 01 New
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        Quote: Egorchik
        Russia needs a president of just such a type as Lukashenko.
        It was in 1991 that Russia needed a president of exactly the same type as Lukashenko. Old Man really, miraculously, with great difficulty managed to maintain and increase the inheritance inherited from the late State, all the best for his people. For which he has the greatest respect and deep bow.
        Today, the situation in the country resembles lawlessness, devastation, a mess and chaos during the revelry of Leninist-walrus Bolshevism, and therefore, until it’s too late today, only a new HOST - a new STALIN can save Russia
      3. michajlo 11 October 2013 11: 03 New
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        Quote: tronin.maxim
        Old Man Lukoshenko leads, as can be seen from his deeds for the people!

        Quote: Egorchik
        Russia needs a president of this type as Lukashenko. A person in a country with very limited resources has not crushed the social sphere, the state is trying to help the common man to the best of its power. Industry and agriculture feed the country as it should, the population does not die out like Russians and is not replaced gastrobaiters under the pretext that they don’t want to work. In principle, everything is very simple, one person knows how to manage the state, the other through the media convinces his own population that he knows how to manage the state.

        Hello dear!

        I completely agree with your opinion! good

        Sorry to write here so late, not the other day, I learned about this project and a commendable attempt to find out "the mood and appreciation of the people from below their politicians."
    2. KazaK Bo 30 July 2013 09: 53 New
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      Quote: tronin.maxim
      Old Man Lukoshenko leads, as can be seen from his deeds for the people!

      Very often I am in BELARUS - they criticize him there ... but they will come to RUSSIA, I’m not talking about UKRAINE, they return to their place in MINSK and say: DON’T NEED US YOUR LIFE. WHEN LUKASHENKO IS BETTER THAN YOU. WE WILL VOTE ONLY FOR HIM. And they go ... and vote ... and so do more than 80% of Belarusian voters. LUKASHENKO is truly a leader of the people ... without any, as we have, "elective technologies" of UNITED RUSSIA.
      1. kavkaz8888
        kavkaz8888 30 July 2013 14: 51 New
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        While reading, just wanted to write. Plus
      2. Raiven
        Raiven 30 July 2013 21: 31 New
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        many do not like the fact that he is everywhere with him and drags Kolya into meetings. Many believe that this is a disgrace to him and Belarus. I’ll add to the word
        1. NUT
          NUT 31 July 2013 12: 04 New
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          Quote: Raiven
          I don’t like that he is everywhere with him and drags Kolya to meetings
          The first time we hear: "Do you want to defeat the enemy - educate his children"?
          Where do the children of the modern Russian elite study with whom we don’t drink, and what good things will they learn there for Russia?
          But, given the existing "democratic" system, it is they who will rule the Russian Land and you can have no doubt what the "rule" will bring to ...
          1. Raiven
            Raiven 1 August 2013 03: 22 New
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            How do I know that? I live in Russia chtol?
      3. Furnace driver
        Furnace driver 1 August 2013 20: 58 New
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        I especially didn’t notice something that they were scolding ... unless I sometimes overdo it in terms of “king, I’m a king, just a king,” they’re blaming me for that - I agree.
    3. strange and pretty meaningless
      strange and pretty meaningless 30 July 2013 13: 15 New
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      Quote: tronin.maxim
      Old Man Lukoshenko leads, as can be seen from his deeds for the people!

      Yes, who would argue. But father +100500.
      Just why “Just Vasilich” forgot about Lenin’s grandfather. Not ordered?
      1. Joker 30 July 2013 13: 28 New
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        Just why “Just Vasilich” forgot about Lenin’s grandfather. Not ordered?

        You look at the size of the article and you will understand)) And so it turned out so huge, I would like to evaluate the kings)) But then the article would be kilometer-long.
    4. Alexandr1973
      Alexandr1973 30 July 2013 18: 09 New
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      For what? By the huge inflation of the local currency?
    5. KEKS44
      KEKS44 31 July 2013 15: 48 New
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      Good president or bad I don’t know Lukashenko, I have never been to Belarus. I learn about what is happening there on TV and from the Internet. But I am 100% sure that the relative social and economic stability of Belarus is kept on good relations with Russia. Low prices for oil, gas, etc. Although he’s done well, he successfully defends his country from European pornographic values, and does not allow society to become morally corrupt.
  2. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 30 July 2013 06: 43 New
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    Just Vasilich, you have done a tremendous job! Thanks a lot! good good drinks
    1. vladimirZ 30 July 2013 08: 32 New
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      In my opinion, an objective picture of current events.
      Longing and a desire to return to a socialist state with the prevailing interests of the state and people of the majority.
      That's just a pity, the current leader of Russia is Russian President Putin V.V. it does not support. Putin has, in the first place, the interests of Russian elite-clan groups (ECGs), so he has recently been worried about the strengthening of the state’s armed forces. The property of clan groups must be protected from foreign "business sharks".
      The interests of the people in Putin, after the interests of the ECG. Who pays, he orders the music. But it can’t go on like this for a long time, criminal-clan groups know this, and therefore they’re “tying” their wealth and families in the West with their lies. They are afraid of the people.
    2. Corsair 31 July 2013 22: 02 New
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      Quote: Valery Neon
      Just Vasilich, you have done a tremendous job! Thanks a lot!

      Necessary, quite voluminous and timely work ... good
  3. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 30 July 2013 08: 02 New
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    All such polls are not serious, the opinion of the people can change in a week. There are a lot of such examples in modern politics. Nowadays, people are more prone to propaganda than ever. Public opinion is manipulated like magicians in a circus. There has never been such information pressure.
    1. Just Vasilich 30 July 2013 08: 29 New
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      All such polls are not serious, the opinion of the people can change in a week.

      It is not serious to take aside the discussion of the survey results.
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      2. AleksUkr 30 July 2013 10: 38 New
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        The opinion of the respondents may change, but things remain.
        1. kris 30 July 2013 16: 04 New
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          Quote: AleksUkr
          The opinion of the respondents may change, but things remain.
          1. Corsair 31 July 2013 22: 05 New
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            Quote: kris
            Quote: AleksUkr
            The opinion of the respondents may change, but things remain.

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      3. SPACE 30 July 2013 11: 20 New
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        Quote: Just Vasilich
        Just Vasilich

        It’s a good idea to organize this survey, and the result of the survey is more consistent with the internal vision. True, there is a note. The survey should take into account the geopolitical importance of countries, since the dependence on the level of responsibility and the scale of the consequences of decisions are different. For example, Lukashenko speaks correctly and does the right thing, but how much easier it is for him to say and do it from behind his big brother, Putin has to deal with global issues and make decisions on which a good half of the world depends, almost alone, which means that assessments should take this factor into account.
        Z.Y. Ever since the collapse of the USSR, Russia has always been and remains a superpower, just at the moment it has weakened slightly compared to the USSR, which will temporarily and sooner or later get stronger, is already gaining strength, even more by force. This is my unchanging opinion.
        1. Grenz
          Grenz 30 July 2013 18: 40 New
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          SPACE (1)
          Lukashenko speaks correctly and does the right thing, but how much easier it is for him to say and do all this from behind the back of his big brother ...


          And how would he speak and act if he headed the state of the Elder Brother.
          In would be deeds and deeds !!! I have no doubt, no worse than now in Belarus.
          1. alone 31 July 2013 14: 22 New
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            The advantage of Alexander Georgievich Lukashenko over other leaders is that he went through all the steps, was the leader of the state farm, was familiar with the problems of the lower classes. He knows what ordinary people need. In short, he is a business executive, not a nomenclature. That’s why the bulk of Belarusians support him .a that GDP or DAM lag behind it is not surprising. they did not work with ordinary people.
    2. SPACE 30 July 2013 10: 51 New
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      "Vox populi, vox Dei."
      Quote: vladsolo56
      All such polls are not serious, the opinion of the people can change in a week.

      Why did you decide that you have the right to speak for the people? Isn’t it time for you to stop counting all people as ediots? You don’t have to measure everything yourself. Here on the site people are completely independent and with a mature point of view, and not only here. And about the features of statistics, people are also in the know. Please express your personal point of view.
      Regards, Bye.
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      kavkaz8888 30 July 2013 14: 54 New
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      At least, these calculations of faith at times more than any, not to remember the night, "Levadam"
  4. Bigriver 30 July 2013 08: 37 New
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    Carefully .., got acquainted with the methodology and results. And not surprised smile
    An objective picture is fully combined with my subjective assessments and expectations.
    Thank you hi
  5. valokordin 30 July 2013 08: 38 New
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    Mikhail Gorbachev. According to the results of last year’s poll, Gorbachev gained a reputation as a weak / passive politician with markedly immoral and incompetent. According to these indicators, he was close to such typical characters as "Traitor", "Temporary Worker" and "Amateur". This year, he reaffirmed his status regarding weakness / passivity and incompetence. According to the moral factor, the decline in ratings continued ...
    The question is, for what sins or deeds, this destroyer of the fatherland Putin was awarded the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called. Probably only the great PU was given this to understand, or he himself shares the exploits of Gorbachev.
    1. Bigriver 30 July 2013 08: 51 New
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      Quote: valokordin

      The question is, for what sins or deeds, this destroyer of the fatherland Putin was awarded the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called ...

      Medvedev, in the last months of his presidency.
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        so you think that Putin has nothing to do with it? but it seems to me very much to do with it.
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      Quote: valokordin
      The question is, for what sins or deeds, this destroyer of the fatherland Putin was awarded the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called

      The decree on awarding was signed by D. Medvedev on the initiative .... and not Putin ... respectively, and Medvedev awarded. The indicators of Medvedev and Gorbachev as state policy makers in this survey do not differ too much. It turns out like KRYLOV’s in the fable - the cuckoo praises the rooster for praising the cuckoo!
      One field of berries!
  6. AlNick 30 July 2013 08: 54 New
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    Quote: vladimirZ
    In my opinion, an objective picture of current events.


    I completely agree, a very good article.
  7. Asgard 30 July 2013 09: 10 New
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    Stanislav for the collection and processing of information from all People low bow ...
    the work has been done and the exact "cut" of public relations to politics, politicians, alcoholics andgoggles"....

    The fact that Stalin in the first positions, speaks of 100% honesty of the survey .... remember how the survey was conducted on television, there Stalin immediately began to win and it was "wiped out" by "representatives of the media nation")))))))

    (Well, it’s true, the “hairpin” of honesty and the confirmation of the theory that “animals” cannot judge People))))

    By "Old Man" is also clear, \ The people see the Human / / ....

    which is also interesting that EBNatik(first president of Russia)) fell into oblivion, and
    while it was held by PR-technologies (like a flight in front of Siberian Cranes)))) there were ratings (invented))) and I think that another 10 years will pass and no one will remember whose “monument” it is worth drenched in blue paint))))
    On Leonid Ilyich also in general corresponds to my ideas about this Man (so I as a people))

    There is little information from People on the “Khrushch”, it was also that “Judas” we will call him so “Gorbachev1” we were lucky that there were a lot of HEALTHY People and they managed to throw him off, ......

    It was then that destructive elements began to penetrate into the Deep Drilling Office and the collapse of the Great Country began, Kosygin was slowed down, Masherov was killed, a number of events that led ....

    to the fact that we have))))) watch TV)))))))
    It probably was also necessary, because People see distinctly Hu from hu?
    Khernyu also need to look 14-15 years old to sober up, take the “count” and put in the ORDER, because it is he who we lack, and the government is not capable))))
    moreover, It is necessary to do it yourself (the shoigu only dresses up))))) again the general named "new form" was denounced ..... beautiful)))))

    Homeland Again, we protect (in jackets))))))
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      Quote: Asgard

      The fact that Stalin in the first positions speaks of a 100% honesty of the survey .... we recall how the survey was conducted on television, where Stalin immediately began to win and he was “wiped out” by “representatives of the media nation”)))))))

      And now, on the 365-day channel, a certain Pravdyuk-shit concocted the series “The Stalin Case” and, like the traitor Rezun, indiscriminately groans the Generalissimo. So, the result of the survey is like a bone in the throat of these traitors.
    2. Xunta 30 July 2013 11: 42 New
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      In vain are you talking about Shoigu ... one of the few sane people! Judge by business ... not by TV. In my opinion, the Ministry of Emergencies is the strongest and most invincible) ministry with which there have never been any problems and questions.
      And in fact, a competent specialist and a reasonable adequate person no matter what area to work ...
      Personally, I put Putin on the item "Morality" a somewhat underestimated rating without a second thought, so to speak ... You cannot be white and fluffy with this code of aligarch officials.
      1. Asgard 30 July 2013 12: 58 New
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        not in vain ....
        it so happened that I see a little earlier ...
        The fact that Kozhugetovich, white and fluffy and around the thieves and traitors !? and in senior positions, ALL TIME, the owner of the Order of the Masons, it is to him WE "owe" the collapse of the USSR, not to be that thousand automatic machines (the world would "stagnate differently"))
        People would be ALIVE, who would then be buried like cattle in burial grounds ..... after the events of 93 .............................
        who defended US with YOU ....

        Talk business .... look at the Ministry of Emergency Situations, EXCEPT THE AIRBORNE HOSPITAL AND AIRPASS, what the fuck is the BUSINESS ????
        Forests burned together with the villages .....
        The firefighters were called the Emergencies Ministry, they changed clothes according to the example of a “stool”)))), and the technicians came as little as possible, there was a health program, it cost less, and at least hospitals updated their medical equipment ......
        Our building of the Police burned down, opposite the Pazharnaya part)))))))
        The technique is colored, but old ... ...... and so everywhere in Russia ...

        A man did not serve in the Army for a day ...
        From a lieutenant turned into a general ,,,,, (for the betrayal of the PEOPLE)) we then voted for the USSR in a referendum .....
        The fact that the mass media praise him ....., so the mass media praise him, leading us to death ......
        Wait, the situation is DIFFICULT and while there is time and sanity it is necessary to put the MINISTER OF HUMAN DEFENSE for whom PEOPLE would go ....

        sorry, we won’t win a single war with him .....
        so we pass))))
  8. Bigriver 30 July 2013 09: 16 New
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    In my opinion, an objective picture of current events ....
    The interests of the people in Putin, after the interests of the ECG. Who pays, he orders the music ...

    That is, the picture is objective, but you do not agree with it?
    Putin’s main motivation is the State (about 40%).
    ECG - about 24%.
    1. Yegorchik 30 July 2013 10: 14 New
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      Well, Mr. Ernst and others eat their bread for nothing.
    2. vladimirZ 30 July 2013 10: 53 New
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      "That is, the picture is objective, but do you disagree with it?
      Putin’s main motivation is the State (about 40%). ECG - about 24%. "
      BigRiver  Today, 09:16


      Yes, I disagree with this situation prevailing in Russia. You yourself see that the state exists, first of all, in order to serve the interests of elite clan groups, but not the people.
      The facts confirming this are obvious: the lack of jurisdiction of ECG representatives for crimes, the transfer of ECGs for nothing of state property, tax benefits, special pensions for state officials, state support from the state budget to financial tycoons (banks), the provision of the possibility of capital export from Russia and other, other, other .
      1. Bigriver 30 July 2013 13: 35 New
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        ... with this situation prevailing in Russia, I disagree. You yourself see that the state exists, first of all, in order to serve the interests of elite clan groupsbut not the people ...

        If we rely on the research that we are discussing today, then such a conclusion cannot be drawn from it. There is no facts.
        If you think there is, poke your nose :)
        1. vladimirZ 30 July 2013 17: 02 New
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          "... There is no fact.
          If you think there is, poke your nose :) "
          BigRiver  Today, 13:35 ↑


          If the facts that I cited in the previous comment are not enough for you, and you ask to "poke your nose" in the research materials (sorry, I repeated your expression).
          "Vladimir Putin: for the state - 39,3%; for the people - 18,1%; for the elite-clan groups - 24,8%; for themselves - 11,9%; for external forces alien to the country - 5,9% . Dominant interests are state in combination with the interests of elite clan groups. The interests of the people - in 3rd place".

          Do not be offended.
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            Quote: vladimirZ

            "Vladimir Putin: for the state - 39,3%; for the people - 18,1%; for the elite-clan groups - 24,8%; for themselves - 11,9%; for external forces alien to the country - 5,9% . Dominant interests are state in combination with the interests of elite clan groups. The interests of the people - in 3rd place".

            Do not be offended.

            laughing
            Great! And laying it out, you continue to assert that the main motivation is the interests of the ECG, and the state must be built in order to pursue these interests?
            Or all the same, first the state, and then the ECG?
            More precisely: "Putin pursues a state interest, combining it with the interests of the ECG and the people."
            No not like this? laughing
            I repeat, we discuss only the results of statistical analysis, and no other debatable texture that you call facts. Before us is pure mathematics, without emotions.
            1. vladimirZ 31 July 2013 07: 06 New
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              "..." Putin pursues state interest, combining it with the interests of the ECG and the people. "
              No not like this?"
              BigRiver  Today, 05:45 ↑


              Not this way. The interests of the elite-clan groups and the interests of the people do not coincide. They are antogonous in essence, and therefore, this must be taken into account.
              ECG interests are supported to the detriment of the interests of the people.
              I do not cite the facts confirming this, since you do not want material other than this study.
              1. Bigriver 31 July 2013 10: 27 New
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                Quote: vladimirZ

                Not this way. The interests of elite clan groups and the interests of the people do not coincide. They are antogonous in essence, and therefore, this must be taken into account.
                ECG interests are supported to the detriment of the interests of the people.
                Evidence of this ..

                In Russia there is no ONE and monolithic elite. Therefore, it is impossible to speak of antagonism to its interests of the people and the state. There is an elite traitor and there is an elite guardian, and between them, sometimes, full-scale "military operations" take place.
                The “Belolento movement” and the “swamp opposition” are nothing more than a struggle between the elite-traitor and the elite-guard and the struggle to change the political course of the country.
                This is also too simplistic, but to develop a topic means to move away from the question.
                Take another fact: a law prohibiting officials from having accounts with foreign banks and owning “foreign financial instruments”. Is this what you think the elite’s struggle with itself? smile Or you do not consider the power elite?
                Even a term has appeared in recent months - the nationalization of the elite.
                The third fact. In the interests of whom is the process of deoffshorization of the Russian economy launched? What do you think? This program was developed by the Expert Office of the President of the Russian Federation with the participation of Sergey Glazyev.
                As you can see, if you delve into the details, then from a tough and harsh phrase: "The interests of the elite-clan groups and the interests of the people do not coincide." remains .. not a damn thing remains.
                All that remains is a set of numbers 40% state, 24% ECG and 18% people (it seems: /).
                And the calculation of cunningly wise relationships between these percentages turns into a game with a knot that does not give any truth.
                1. vladimirZ 31 July 2013 17: 30 New
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                  "In Russia there is no ONE and monolithic elite. Therefore, it is impossible to speak about its antagonism to the interests of the people and the state ..."
                  BigRiver  Today, 10:27 ↑


                  Wrong conclusion. According to your judgment, you can immediately see the graduate of post-Soviet education. You seek to prove the unprovable.
                  In capitalist Russia, whatever the contradictions between the elite-clan groups, perhaps right up to the absorption, “annihilation” of one another, they remain one bourgeois class exploiting the people — the class of the exploited.
                  Hence the inappropriateness of the interests of the ECG and the people, their class contradiction.
                  Therefore, if the head of Russia is Putin V.V. First of all, it stands for the interests of elite-clan groups, then it stands on their side to a greater extent, and only then, supporting the image of wherever you go, for the people.
                  And we all see this in the actions of the President of the Russian Federation. To this, he was put on the post of "guarantor of the Constitution" by the elite-clan groups of the specially developed "system for voting the election of the President of the Russian Federation" and manipulating people's behavior during the election period.
                  So, no "computation of the wise-wise relationships between these percentages." The naked truth of the life of a capitalist state.
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  10. KazaK Bo 30 July 2013 09: 43 New
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    Of course, in the analysis of the survey, not all the canons of SOCIALOGY are strictly observed ... especially when taking into account the indicator of the average statistical error ... taking into account the percentage of the sample by social groups, etc. ...
    BUT AT THE SAME TIME - I did not find big differences in the results of the survey of VASILICH and professional sociological organizations ... including state institutions, where, if ONISHCHENKO didn’t lie to him, “they had eaten the dog for a long time” for organizing such studies of public opinion. So the method of VASILICH is not far from the truth, and you CAN BELIEVE it!
    Thank you, Vasilich!
    1. Just Vasilich 30 July 2013 10: 57 New
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      Of course, in the analysis of the survey, not all the canons of SOCIALOGY are strictly observed ... especially when taking into account the indicator of the average statistical error ... taking into account the percentage of the sample by social groups, etc. ...

      I did not overload the report with purely statistical calculations, as well as the analysis of individual categories of respondents. And so there is a lot of material.
      1. aviamed90 30 July 2013 11: 45 New
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        Just Vasilich

        Of course, in such studies there is some degree of error. But in general, the main line of public opinion is being traced in answering the questions posed. Let alone among visitors to the site.

        But the site does not contain “members” of one political party who vote the same! Here are many points of view and political trends.
        In this sense, the results of the survey can be considered the opinion of the majority of the country's population.

        And for the work done - many thanks!
        The survey results seriously enough disperse the "fog", pumped by the media on these issues.
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    nepopadun 30 July 2013 09: 53 New
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    Belarusians are clear guys
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    waisson 30 July 2013 12: 11 New
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    good good good keep it up ALEXANDER GRIGORIEVICH!
  13. PValery53 30 July 2013 12: 33 New
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    The results of the survey definitely "fell into the soul", that is, they correspond to my view of the politicians put up for discussion. And I do not want to question the methodology of the survey and the accuracy (honesty) of the calculation. Thank you, Vasilich! I am glad that, as expected, the Old Man will win in expressing the will and interests of the people, unlike other figures. Well done, Lukashenko! It is very disappointing that the hands of GDP are stained with ECG interests. This will affect the results of the next election (if there is no fraud). And our “forever young politician” sits completely out of place ...
  14. Just Vasilich 30 July 2013 14: 33 New
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    The results obtained for individual points of the survey (factor estimates, distribution of interests, type of society being formed) add up to a consistent picture. The contradiction, in my opinion, arises when we moved on to the motives of the integration processes within the Eurasian Union.

    If in three countries (Russia, Ukraine and Kazakhstan) an ECG domination society is being formed, and in Belarus a socialist-type society is being formed, then what mutually beneficial cooperation of independent member states can we talk about? Here the motive for creating a centralized state under the control of Russian elite-clan groups is more appropriate. Then the periodic “maneuvers” and maneuvering of Belarus, Ukraine and Kazakhstan in matters of economic integration become clear. None of the leaders speaks of the spiritual and ideological integration of peoples (as it was in the USSR).

    Is there really nothing personal (spiritual and moral), one cold business calculation?
  15. Just Vasilich 30 July 2013 15: 02 New
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    Often, on our website, together we rejoice in the news about strengthening the defense capabilities of our countries. We regard them as the concern of the authorities for the state, implying the people. But the survey showed that the concepts of “state” and “people” are not in tune with our authorities. For them, the concept of "state" is more consistent with the interests of elite clan groups. Strengthening their defense capabilities, they primarily think about protecting the ECG from external threats. If it’s about the people, then only about the labor resources for the ECG.
    1. SPACE 30 July 2013 20: 05 New
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      But the survey showed that the concepts of “state” and “people” are not in tune with our authorities.

      So sees and evaluates the majority, the actions of the authorities, but is not a statement of the authorities themselves about their actions.
      Quote: Just Vasilich
      For them, the concept of "state" is more consistent with the interests of elite clan groups. Strengthening their defense capabilities, they primarily think about protecting the ECG from external threats. If it’s about the people, then only about the labor resources for the ECG.

      Too simplistic judgments about the motives for the action of power, because each person to one degree or another has it, the motives for using it depend on the qualities of the person, the magnitude and time of the power vested in it, and the more you are endowed with it and the longer you are in it, the more the priorities in its use are changing ... Well, it is impossible to evaluate the actions of the highest authority only from the position of "the main thing to rub" looks very primitive. In 80, a small booklet entitled “Fear at the foot of the throne” was published in Almaty publishing house. I advise everyone to read it, it explains a lot. Morals and vices are unchanged over time, people and scenery change, so the answers to the question “What are you doing power? It is necessary to search in history and in the experience of previous generations. Power can be stupid, but not for long.
  16. Just Vasilich 30 July 2013 15: 26 New
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    Elite-clan groups and vehicles of their interests in power are vitally interested in the gradual, evolutionary path of development of our society. Ways of unobtrusive consolidation of their "historical conquests" after the collapse of the USSR. Our site is also dominated by the installation on the evolutionary path of development, without shocks and revolutions. Then in what non-violent way can the ECG be weaned from the feeder?
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      Quote: Just Vasilich
      Elite-clan groups and vehicles of their interests in power are vitally interested in the gradual, evolutionary path of development of our society. Ways of unobtrusive consolidation of their "historical conquests" after the collapse of the USSR ...

      This is assuming that we have one elite, it is homogeneous, consistent and follows one ideology. But is this not so? wink
      The liberal-Yeltsin alignment in our elite has changed very much already by the mid-2000s. When two polar points of view on further movement crystallized in full growth: conservatism and patriotism (of the siloviki), on the one hand, and liberal freedom of capitalization of everything that is possible, on the other.
      The former even have the ideological inspirer of Eurasianism - Alexander Dugin.
      The liberals, I think, you know the gods yourself smile
    2. SPACE 30 July 2013 20: 40 New
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      Quote: Just Vasilich
      Elite-clan groups and vehicles of their interests in power are vitally interested in the gradual, evolutionary path of development of our society. Ways of unobtrusive consolidation of their "historical conquests" after the collapse of the USSR

      I agree. Someone famous said, "Behind every great fortune lies a crime." Look at the history of those who rule Europe and America, on what they earned their capital, in wars, slaves and other "historical conquests." They were reborn, forgiven, but we have an inborn-sharpened sense of higher JUSTICE that will not give them a quiet life without atonement for their sins.
      Quote: Just Vasilich
      Our site is also dominated by the installation on the evolutionary path of development, without shocks and revolutions. Then in what non-violent way can the ECG be weaned from the feeder?

      Once again stir up the water, dirma pop up the sea, just what you need for those who are sure to catch a goldfish. Only this time, maybe it’s so unlucky, who can guarantee that the second Stalin will come to power? Of the two evils, the smallest. There is only one hope for prudence, the mind, the accumulated historical and personal experience, the knowledge of people in power. But people should not perceive power as a parallel reality, authorities should be helped to become better, I believe all the same in peaceful ways. I believe that it is possible that people in power can be transformed for the better, as well as the fact that the rich can become patriots, history testifies to this, at least because of the instinct of self-preservation of myself and my descendants, otherwise I don’t I won’t put a penny too.
  17. Uncle lee 30 July 2013 17: 19 New
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    The results of the survey correspond to the opinion of the people. And when I wrote in comments that, according to the results of the survey, JV Stalin leads some citizens of the minus ... And who is right?
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  20. Egoza 30 July 2013 22: 05 New
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    Thanks Just Vasilich for the work done. I hope that this survey will be watched not only by the participants of the Vaud site.
    Perhaps it would be interesting to add a couple more questions for discussion about the Eurasian Union, namely:
    - Which countries do you think can join the Eurasian Union?
    - What countries would you like to see in the Eurasian Union?
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      Vietnam, Syria.
      hope is friends!
  21. Selevc 30 July 2013 22: 22 New
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    In vain you are so bad about GDP - we would have such a leader in Ukraine, I think that we would have lived an order of magnitude better !!! Putin is doing everything in his power - but he is a man and not God !!! And besides, he is far from the Secretary General for his powers - he is only the guarantor of the Constitution !!! Constitution written by the invaders after the defeat of 1991 !!! For young people, I remind you that the presidency is generally unusual for Russia and was introduced by Gorbachev specifically to limit the powers of the first person in the state !!!
    You will remember how much you earned in 1999 with Alkasha and how much you are getting now !!! And how he develops the defense industry and other industries is not everything as he wants, but much cannot be changed quickly ...
    And Stalin is clearly assessed inadequately - he, too, as a historical figure is far from ideal !!!
    As for Lukashenko and Nazarbayev, I can say that Belarus and Kazakhstan live well thanks to the strong hand of the rulers and the strong vertical of power, but what will happen after their departure is completely incomprehensible and unpredictable !!!
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      In vain you are so bad about GDP - we would have such a leader in Ukraine, I think that we would have lived an order of magnitude better !!! Putin is doing everything in his power - but he is a man and not God !!!
      What was the basis of the assessment?

      And besides, he is far from the Secretary General for his authority
      Precisely - powers comparable to those of the president of the Russian Federation, Stalin received only with the outbreak of war.

      he is only the guarantor of the Constitution !!!
      Do you think it guarantees?

      Constitution written by the invaders after the defeat of 1991 !!!
      2 questions:
      1 Have you read the Constitution of the Russian Federation?
      2 Do you know the signs of occupation?

      For young people, I remind you that the presidency is generally unusual for Russia and was introduced by Gorbachev specifically to limit the powers of the first person in the state !!!
      The point is not in the title of the post, but in the powers granted by this post.

      You will remember how much you earned in 1999 with Alkasha and how much you are getting now !!!
      Of course. And some people remember the price level with the drunk, and are able to compare it with the current one.

      And how he develops the defense industry and other industries is not everything as he wants, but much cannot be changed quickly ...
      Oh yes - it is developing a defense industry, especially structures designed to suppress riots.
      But the development of industry, I did not notice something.

      And Stalin is clearly assessed inadequately - he, too, as a historical figure is far from ideal !!!
      However, the development goals of the country that took place with him are quite understandable and radically different from the current ones.

      but what will happen after their departure is absolutely incomprehensible and unpredictable !!!
      But I agree with this - leaderism has significantly more negative aspects than positive ones.
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    What was the basis of the assessment?

    Putin, as a politician and as a person, is an order of magnitude stronger than the Yanukovychs, Lukashenka, Nazarbayevs and others taken together ... This is clearly indicated by the position of the West towards him - the rest of the former Soviet Union’s drinkers are not even taken seriously by the Anglo-Saxons and Putin is “rolled a barrel” ... Why would this be so - why not the same Obama, for example, to criticize Chubais with Nemtsov?
    Quote: Yarosvet
    Precisely - powers comparable to those of the president of the Russian Federation, Stalin received only with the outbreak of war.

    But before the war, Stalin also shot and drove many to camps !!! So - without special authority !!!
    Quote: Yarosvet
    Do you think it guarantees?

    Yes - he guarantees a constitution written in the 90s with the goal of making Russia economically and politically dependent ... It is his responsibility and he cannot change them yet ...
    Quote: Yarosvet
    2 questions: 1 Have you read the Constitution of the Russian Federation? 2 Do you know the signs of occupation?

    Only in the constitution of the three countries of the world is there an article "On the priority of external control forces over internal" - these countries are Austria, Germany and Russia !!!
    Signs of occupation:
    1. Firstly, this is the currency of the Russian Federation - it does not say that it is a State Treasury Ticket, as it was written on USSR money, it just says the Bank of Russia Ticket - and what else is the Bank of Russia to figure out !!!
    2. Secondly - this is a huge stabilization fund which for some reason is stored in the USA !!!
    3. Thirdly, these are real-life programs for the export of scientists, children, technologies from Russia ...
    4. In the fourth, Russia's long-standing enemies themselves openly say - quote: Brzezinski "In the 21st century, America will live at the expense of Russia and on the ruins of Russia" ...
    5. Fifthly, it is the imposition of cultural norms and traditions from outside Russia and other CIS countries that are never peculiar to us at all - and they don’t particularly ask us if we want to live like this or not !!! (The topics of LGBT, the Bologna system, Juvenile justice and others are pretty well covered on the Internet) ...
    6. Sixth, during the 20 years of independence, not a single referendum has been held in Russia or in any other CIS country — that is, the authorities can really push the opinion of the people !!!
    7. Ever since the time of Kuchma, every government has taken some kind of loans - and NIRAZU AND NOBODY did not report article by article where these funds were sent ...
    And most importantly, all the points I wrote were not reasonably refuted by any of the influential politicians !!!
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    But the development of industry, I did not notice something.

    At least your Automotive industry is still alive, your Sukhoi Superjet is flying at least somehow, tanks and other weapons are being sold all over the world, ships are being built, extractive industries are flourishing ... I don’t know the rest, but we have much worse !!! Avtozaz really died, the Donbass mines are a stone age, Yushchenko was planning to build warships here and now, and the ruins of many factories are now the hallmark of the once industrial centers of Ukraine ...
    And most importantly, all this collapse of the economy is happening somehow UNSHELL - as if it were necessary, but someone else is resisting this !!! This, by the way, is also a sign of occupation !!!
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      Yarosvet 31 July 2013 02: 24 New
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      Putin as a politician and as a person is an order of magnitude stronger than the Yanukovychs, Lukashenka, Nazarbayevs and other combined ...
      Putin, or is it the country he represents?

      This is clearly indicated by the position of the West in relation to it - the Anglo-Saxons do not even take seriously the rest of the former USSR politicians and they "roll the barrel" on Putin ...
      In your opinion, yapping in the media is the real policy of the West?

      Why would this be so - why not the same Obama, for example, to criticize Chubais with Nemtsov?
      Nemtsov is on free bread, and Putin dominates the redhead, who, according to the "occupation" Constitution, determines the main directions of politics.

      But before the war, Stalin also shot and drove many to camps !!! So - without special authority !!!
      Come also personally? laughing
      The reason for sending to the camps and executions was a violation of the legislation applicable at that time that was being sent and shot. All decisions in that period were taken collectively, the action was recognized as a crime by decision of the courts, or special meetings.

      Yes - he guarantees a constitution written in the 90s with the goal of making Russia economically and politically dependent ... It is his responsibility and he cannot change them yet ...
      Really?
      Take an interest in this order - 1) Part 3 of article 80, 2) article 7, 3) article 133 of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation, 4) minimum wage in the Russian Federation, 5) cost of living in the Russian Federation.

      Only in the constitution of the three countries of the world is there an article "On the priority of external control forces over internal" - these countries are Austria, Germany and Russia !!!
      The very naivety, thoughtlessly repeating the nonsense of the Chubais pimple Zhenya Fedorov laughing
      I recommend reading the article 6 of the US Constitution.

      Signs of occupation
      The main sign of occupation is the presence of the enemy’s armed forces in the occupied territory - look in the dictionary or write crap.
      Now on the points:
      1 Ticket of the Bank of the Russian Federation, since it is the emission function that is assigned to it. The Bank of Russia - it is the BANK of RUSSIA - that says it all.
      2 The stabilization fund is administered by the president - part 3 of article 80, articles 83 and 84 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
      3 Scientists have to pay.
      4 Zbyshek recruited by SVR to believe him?
      5 All of the above applies to the main areas of policy - part 3 of article 80.
      6 The referendum is administered by the President - paragraph c) of Article 84.
      7 It was Putin who classified information about how and by whom the reserve fund is used.

      At least your car industry is still alive ...
      Does this have people, or private traders?

      and someone else resists this
      Look for the topic “List of the largest and most high-tech enterprises destroyed” - read along with the comments.
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    Putin, or is it the country he represents?

    Personally, Putin, if you like it — there are many fans of Stalin personally — and this suggests that specific personalities (tsars, general secretaries and presidents) played a huge role in the history of Russia ...
    Quote: Yarosvet
    In your opinion, yapping in the media is the real policy of the West?

    This yapping, by the way, has been going on for more than half a century and is aimed at millions of brains ... Quote from Colby - "America at the end of the 20th century and the beginning of the 21st century will wage fundamentally new wars - psychological, informational and economic wars" ... Information networks - TV , Internet, newspapers, etc. - this is the field of a new war - a war against the state that cannot be simply bombed !!! And you have to be an idiot to not understand this ...
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    Come also personally? The reason for sending to the camps and executions was a violation of the legislation applicable at that time that was being sent and shot. All decisions in that period were taken collectively, the action was recognized as a crime by decision of the courts, or special meetings.

    It doesn’t matter personally or not - the leader of the country bears all responsibility for his historical era - the facts are clear - before Stalin there were no mass executions, and after that too ...
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    Nemtsov is on free bread, and Putin dominates the redhead, who, according to the "occupation" Constitution, determines the main directions of politics.
    This very strange type is this Chubais - a political centenarian - can you name me Russia's success in nanotechnology after he led Rusnano? He has not just been sitting there for so many years - but if he is sitting there, then someone needs it !!! And you need someone who steered the country before the arrival of GDP !!!
    Quote: Yarosvet
    The main sign of occupation is the presence of the enemy’s armed forces in the occupied territory - look in the dictionary or write crap.

    It’s you who naively wrote crap - the former countries of the socialist camp of the NDP, Czechoslovakia, the German Democratic Republic were also controlled from Moscow ... It seemed to ordinary Germans, Czechs and Poles that everything was normal - and in the West we understood what was happening !!! They understood that they were dancing in Warsaw or in Berlin and pulling strings in Moscow !!! And why do you think that after the defeat in the war that Russia waged for almost half a century, the same thing does not happen only in relation to Russia itself? We live in the 21st century - the technology of occupation is also modern - those sheep who do not understand this are their problems !!!

    You look at the money of Tsarist Russia - what is written there? ONE AND UNFILLED !!! And the principle of federalism, alien to us, has already been built into the governance structure of the USSR !!! And why do you think that after 1991, again, the mechanisms of pumping finance out of it were not built into the country's governance mechanisms - if the West openly talks about this ???
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      Yarosvet 31 July 2013 08: 59 New
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      in the history of Russia, a particular role was played by specific individuals
      They can play or played, they just talk about them solely as a personification of Power.

      This yapping by the way lasts for more than half a century and is aimed at millions of brains
      True, only these brains live in the West. We have a massive brainwashing carried out by federal channels.

      wars against a state that cannot be simply bombed
      So do not confuse the information war with international politics.

      before Stalin there were no mass executions, and after that too
      The executions and massacres were and are - this is the first. Second, Stalin’s actions were fully consistent with the law.
      What is the point in your understanding of "mass executions"?

      And you need someone who steered the country before the arrival of GDP
      It is logical - to the one for whom the redhead worked earlier, that is, to the one who made Vova the prime minister.

      the former countries of the socialist camp of Poland, Czechoslovakia, the German Democratic Republic were also controlled from Moscow
      At the same time, Soviet troops were present on their territory.

      And why do you think that after the defeat in the war that Russia waged for almost half a century, the same thing does not happen only in relation to Russia itself?
      Act of surrender - please.

      We live in the 21st century - the technology of occupation is also modern - those sheep who do not understand this are their problems
      Either give a link to an explanatory dictionary where these "technologies" are indicated - or do not engage in the invention of a new conceptual apparatus and do not carry nonsense.

      And the principle of federalism, alien to us, was already built into the governance structure of the USSR
      You speak for yourself and do not jump from topic to topic.
      You read the Federal Law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation? I can say unequivocally that you have not read it - but you allow yourself to talk about it. So you get a crap - as is the case with your statement that only in 3 countries the norms of international law are part of their legal system.

      And why do you think that after 1991, again, the mechanisms of pumping finance out of it were not built into the country's governance mechanisms - if the West openly talks about this ???
      Because there is an “occupational” Constitution, which, in your own words, Putin is obliged to observe and cannot comply, which says that the Russian Federation is a sovereign state (part 1 of article 4), and that the president is obliged to protect the sovereignty of the Russian Federation (part 2 articles 80).
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        They can play or played, they just talk about them solely as a personification of Power.

        Listen, you go deep into some wilds !!! What is the personification of power? - And in tsarist Russia and in the USSR, the people lived one at a time under some rulers and completely different under others !!!
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        True, only these brains live in the West. We have a massive brainwashing carried out by federal channels.

        This flushing is carried out here ... America annually allocates huge money "for the development of democracy" in the former countries of the union, and can you tell me where these funds go? Your Navalny is already being promoted and advertised in such a way that even in Ukraine he has long been disgusted !!!
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        So do not confuse the information war with international politics.

        War is nothing more than a continuation of politics, with the involvement of other means. Clausewitz ...
        Quote: Yarosvet
        At the same time, Soviet troops were present on their territory.

        There were no Soviet units on the territory of the NDP, Bulgaria, Romania - but it was clear to everyone who controlled the political system in these countries ... In Czechoslovakia, there was even a resistance movement in Poland (Walesa, Havel) - but all this was done until the end 80s did not take off the ruling elite, but then dissidents of all sorts felt a freemen !!!
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        Act of surrender - please.

        Why do you need an act? Who are you to make the USA personally present the act of victory over Russia? It is enough that in the early 90s they got real leverage and control over Russia ...
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        Either give a link to an explanatory dictionary where these "technologies" are indicated - or do not engage in the invention of a new conceptual apparatus and do not carry nonsense.
        That’s why it and politics are done and not written in dictionaries — history lovers will write later through generations !!!
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        So you get a crap - as is the case with your statement that only in 3 countries the norms of international law are part of their legal system.

        Constitution of the Russian Federation Article 15.4 - “Generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system. If an international treaty of the Russian Federation establishes rules other than those stipulated by law, then the rules of the international treaty apply” What more do you need? - This article can be summed up under any even the ugly and unprofitable international agreement for Russia ...
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          Yarosvet 1 August 2013 01: 52 New
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          the people lived one at a time under some rulers and completely different under others
          Do you know the term evolution? Society and political systems are also evolving, and politics is changing depending on the circumstances. In the USSR, it was supposed to establish the power of the Soviets - alas, they did not realize it, and you are all about persons - were you tired of being sick with leaderism?

          Quote: Yarosvet
          This flushing is carried out here ... America
          The United States is engaged in self-promotion for its own benefit - brainwashing in Russia and in neighboring states is carried out by Russian federal channels.

          annually allocates huge money "for the development of democracy" in the former countries of the union
          Well and how - strongly democratized you? Or maybe you think that you are the only one that is not amenable to propaganda and exists in a single copy?
          Where did the information about "huge money" come from - did you personally see the details?
          What is the target structure? Share the information, since you are so knowledgeable.

          can you tell me where these funds go
          Most likely they are stolen, and for the report, hype in the media is organized. Or do you know the concrete successes of "democratization" in the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as there are unequivocal facts that say that these successes were organized at the expense of the State Department?

          Your bulk ...
          My bulk? laughing

          War is nothing more than a continuation of politics, with the involvement of other means. Clausewitz ...
          Politics is the continuation of life ..., life is a process ..., a process is a sequence ...
          When we talk about the Navy, we are not talking about either the army or the Airborne Forces - that’s not to confuse the information war with international politics.

          In the territory of the NDP, Bulgaria, Romania there were no Soviet units
          Were - withdrawn from Poland in the 93rd, from the territory of Romania - in the 58th. Only in Bulgaria were mainly attaches and committee members present.

          Why do you need an act?
          Did you blurt out about losing the war? Blurted out. So be so kind as to confirm your words.

          in the early 90's they got real leverage of pressure and control ...
          A list of these imaginary levers - please.

          That's why she and politics to do and not write
          Do not smack nonsense and do not engage in verbiage.

          Constitution of the Russian Federation Article 15.4
          Read Article 6 of the Constitution of Matrasia.

          this article can be summed up under any even the ugly and unprofitable international treaty for Russia
          Seriously? Then answer me - who, in accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation, signs these ugly and unprofitable international treaties?
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            Yarosvet 1 August 2013 02: 23 New
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            And I know where it all happened - not to our factories - it all went straight through Kiev to Europe - and this is hundreds of millions of dollars, and more likely billions ...
            A real profitable scheme for the West is that he buys valuable resources from cut green papers from us through front structures and then also every local shushval who got rich in these operations buys cool cars for the same papers in the West ... And as a result, the finish - West to double win, our plants are destroyed and plundered, but a couple of dozen secret millionaires appeared in the city
            That is the whole point.

            Now think: who is the culprit and the main person involved - the buyer who took the opportunity, or is it still the seller?

            I can tell you in more detail about the disarmament treaties under which Russia sawed its missiles and America only dismantled them !!! and much more
            A similar question: who is the culprit and the main person involved - who proposed to sign an agreement for certain preferences, or who signed it all the same?

            What can I say about small things - the fact that Ukraine has been “joining” the EU since 1996 - itself says that Ukraine is not a sovereign state
            No - this suggests that in Ukraine the pro-Western Authority, which for preferences, for itself beloved, surrenders the country through voluntary restriction of its own sovereignty.

            And they forgot to ask the people - where do we want to go ??? No, they didn’t forget. Those who really manage all these Kiev puppets have decided for us a long time ago.
            No - this is the people of Ukraine, who loves you, too, to look for the guilty, tacitly AGREED to move towards the West.

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            West has leverage over Russia
            The West has exactly as many levers of influence on Russia — and so does Russia for influencing the West.

            Quote: Selevc
            one well-known international organization is simply openly dictating to us - how to set the retirement age, how to raise housing and communal services tariffs, what education to introduce in schools, etc.
            Does this “dictate” worsen or improve living conditions?

            This is already a very clear example of governing the country from the outside - obvious things and especially not hidden by anyone
            These are voluntary steps taken by the Ukrainian authorities with the tacit consent of the majority.
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        And there are specific examples of economic schemes for the destruction of the post-Soviet space !!!

        Or tell you in detail how they stole and exported for whole whole trains loaded with non-ferrous and ferrous metals? I myself have been at large factories in Ukraine for a long time, and I know firsthand what stocks were there and what is now now !!! EVERY large factory in the USSR had a special warehouse where a strategic stock of valuable metals was kept in case of war ... And I know where it all went - not to our plants - it all went straight through Kiev to Europe - and this is hundreds of millions of dollars, but rather billions ...
        A real profitable scheme for the West is that he buys valuable resources from cut green papers from us through front structures and then also every local shushval who got rich in these operations buys cool cars for the same papers in the West ... And as a result, the finish - West to double win, our plants are destroyed and plundered, but a couple of dozen secret millionaires appeared in the city !!! Yes, this is not written in the explanatory dictionaries - but this does not mean that this was not !!!
        I can tell you in more detail about the disarmament treaties under which Russia sawed its missiles and America only dismantled them !!! and much more...
        But what can we say about small things - the fact that Ukraine has been “joining” the EU since 1996 - itself says that Ukraine is not a sovereign state ... But they forgot to ask the people - where do we want to go ??? No, they didn’t forget, those who really manage all these Kiev puppets have already decided for us !!!
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          But I’ve completely forgotten that if the West has leverage over Russia, then it simply governs Ukraine directly - you don’t have to go far for an example — one well-known international organization is already openly dictating to us how to set the retirement age, how to raise housing and communal services tariffs, and what education introduce in schools etc.
          This is a very clear example of governing the country from the outside - the obvious things and especially not hidden by anyone !!!
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    Very often I am in BELARUS - there he is scolded
    Mostly disgruntled businessmen scold, because they do not allow to steal. The bulk of the people are hard workers, they are a mountain for him.
  25. alone 31 July 2013 12: 08 New
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    I think instead of arguing who is better or who is worse, just check the career growth of each of these people, and you will immediately understand who is who! and who your state needs as a leader. especially focus on how these people got into the highest echelons of power
    1. Just Vasilich 31 July 2013 21: 03 New
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      ... just check the career growth of each of these people, ... especially focus on how these people got into the highest echelons of power

      The trouble is that the official biographies of these people are well “combed” and edited - not a drop of tar on a barrel of honey. On the other hand, incriminating sources are exactly the opposite - not a drop of honey on a barrel of tar.

      This is a global problem in the post-Soviet space - a lack of objective information. If such information were available, there would be no need to reconstruct the truth through surveys of subjective opinions, relying on the law of large numbers.
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        The leader is best determined not by official biographies, but by what country is with him and how the people live. And most importantly - does this people see the prospects for the development of their country with this leader.
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  27. Taoist 5 August 2013 21: 01 New
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    The survey is necessary and interesting ... In any case, if someone calls it "custom-made", I definitely don’t agree ... only comrades, if possible, should be wider than this. "en masses" (as Vybegallo said) to promote. I personally posted links in all the forums where I participate ... The main thing in this survey is, first of all, an understandable and clearly structured rating system ... Otherwise, we often “feel like” and why I don’t understand ...
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      Taoist: if possible, it should be wider than t.s. "en masses" (as Vybegallo said) to promote.

      Under the herring head? drinks
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    Drawing no comment!
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    Just heard about these polls. If offered this year, I’m ready to fill out a questionnaire and send it. The time has gone when it was still possible not to think about what would happen to the country and us. Shame on being silent.