Tu-134 - 50 years in the sky

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Tu-134 jet aircraft is rightfully recognized as one of the most successful projects in the field of domestic passenger aircraft construction. AT history domestic civil aviation This aircraft entered as the most massive and popular Soviet airliner. Tu-134 (according to the NATO codification Crusty— “Hard”) is a Soviet short-haul passenger aircraft, which was created in the early 1960s at OKB im. Tupolev. The aircraft was mass-produced from 1965 to 1984 in Kharkov at the production association of the same name, while the latest copies of the aircraft were assembled in 1989. The liner made its first flight on July 29, 1963 - that is, exactly half a century ago.

The Tu-134 is rightfully considered one of the most popular Soviet passenger aircraft, in total 852 cars of all modifications were produced. In addition to the USSR, this aircraft was operated by a large number of countries of the Social Camp. Deliveries of aircraft for export began in the year 1968. Tu-134 became the first Soviet airliner, which has passed the official international certification. In November, 1968, this machine was certified in Poland for compliance with the British airworthiness standards BCAR. This aircraft was actively exploited by other socialist countries - Bulgaria, the GDR, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Vietnam and many others.

On the basis of the Tu-134 various flying laboratories were created, which were intended to test new types of space and aviation equipment. As of February, 2012 was operated around the world by 130 aircraft of this type, of which more than 100 are in Russia. VIP-versions of this aircraft are very popular, but military modifications are also widespread. At one time, on the basis of the Tu-134, training aircraft were created for the training of pilots and navigators of the strategic bombers Tu-160 and Tu-22М3. Often these machines were used to maintain the skills of combatant pilots in order to save the resource of much more expensive bombers.
Tu-134 - 50 years in the sky

Currently, information has appeared that the country's Air Force Commander-in-Chief decided to restore the entire existing fleet of training aircraft Tu-134UBL and Tu-134Ш and addressed directly to the country's defense minister with a request for the necessary amount of money. According to preliminary estimates, it will take about 50 million rubles to extend the life of virtually 20 aircraft. The modification of the Tu-134UBL is used for the training of military pilots, and the Tu-134Ш for the training of long-range aviation navigators.

Today, except for the Tu-134, there is practically nothing to prepare them, since the backup options in the form of An-26 and An-24 do not have the aiming and navigation equipment with which long-range bombers are equipped. It was also built a number of machines intended for transport and passenger traffic commanders of the armed forces, the so-called "staff", including those equipped with special communication (ASA).

It is believed that the Tu-134 aircraft owes its appearance directly to Nikita Khrushchev. In 1960, the then First Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU became the guest of honor at the presentation in France of a new jet passenger plane Sud-Aviacion "Karavella". This passenger liner made a serious impression on the Soviet leader, and when he returned back to Moscow, Nikita Khrushchev ordered the Tupolev Design Bureau to begin work on the creation of a Soviet counterpart.
Tu-134Sh

At this time, work on the creation of passenger jet liners began at the same time in different countries of the world, the distinctive feature of which was the placement of engines in the rear fuselage on special pylons. These aircraft could include the American Boeing 727 and DC-9, the British VC.10, DH 121 and BAC111, the Dutch F28, and also the Soviet Il-62 and Tu-134.

This scheme primarily allowed to improve the aerodynamics of the car (through the use of the so-called "clean wing") and reduce the noise level in the cockpit and in the cabin, as well as significantly reduce the load from the gas jets of the engines running on the fuselage. At the same time, the airframe design became heavier and, as a result, the payload decreased. At the same time, the liner’s profitability decreased and maintenance of the aircraft tail assembly was complicated.

Initially, the short-haul liner Tu-134 was not designed as a new aircraft. In the Tupolev Design Bureau there was an idea to modernize the existing Tu-124 aircraft. This car had an extended fuselage, the engines were transferred to the tail section, and the plumage was replaced with a T-shaped one. This project received the designation Tu-124A and was proposed as early as 1961. The first 2 prototype Tu-124A were produced in 1963 year. In July of the same year, this car first rose to the sky.
Tu-XNUMHUBL

Flight and certification tests of the aircraft began in the summer of 1963, and in 1965, the aircraft received the official designation Tu-134. At the same time, the release of the Tu-124 was finally stopped. The serial production of the new Tu-134 airliner began in 1966. The aircraft was mass-produced at the Kharkov Aviation Production Association for nearly 18 years (from 1966 to 1984 a year).

Tu-134 was designed for short-haul lines with a relatively small passenger traffic. Originally planned to place in the cabin 56 seats for passengers (50 seats in the two-class layout). However, from the first class on those airliners that were intended for lines within the USSR, it was soon decided to give up. For this reason, the number of seats was increased to 72.

In 1965, in Kharkov, 9 was able to assemble pre-production airliners designed specifically for flight testing. There was no reverse on these aircraft, for this reason the mileage after landing was quite large. It is worth noting that the Tupolev design bureaus were going to install brake parachutes on the airliner like the previous Tu-104 aircraft. But they rather quickly decided to give up this idea. At the same time, engines equipped with reverse, began to appear on the Tu-134 only in 1970 year. Over time, these engines have received all previously released aircraft. Up to this point, the Tu-134 helped to brake a special shield installed under the fuselage - a phenomenon quite rare for civil aviation.

The first serial passenger liners Tu-134 were transferred to Aeroflot already in 1966, and in September of the following year, the first commercial flight en route Moscow-Adler was made on Tu-134. At the same time, almost 3, the new aircraft were used only on international lines, and only in the summer of 1969, they began to serve the lines within the USSR: Moscow-Kiev and Moscow-Leningrad. Tu-134 was actively sold for export: in 1968, the first aircraft were transferred to the East German airline Interflug, and a little later to the Polish company LOT.

In 1970, a new modification of the aircraft was created - the Tu-134A. The fuselage of the car grew by half a meter, a reverse appeared on the engines, the brake flap was removed, the number of seats increased to 76. As a result of these events, the maximum flight range decreased from 3100 to 2770 km, and at the maximum payload of the liner - to 2100 km. On aircraft that were intended to be exported, it was decided to abandon the navigator and mount on board the radar.

In the year 1980 in the USSR, the aircraft was launched in a modification of the Tu-134B. On this version of the aircraft from the navigator on board completely abandoned. In addition, passenger capacity was increased to 96 seats. The take-off weight of the aircraft increased to 47 tons. At the same time, design work began on the version of the Tu-134D, which was supposed to get engines with increased load (8 400 kgf), but the work on this project was not completed. Nowadays, Tu-134 airplanes are gradually being decommissioned, since most of the cars are physically and morally outdated: the most recently released Tu-134 units have already turned more than a quarter of a century.

The engines on the Tu-134 were installed in the rear fuselage. Serial models of airliners were equipped with D-30 turbojet engines (PS-30) designed by Solovyov. This power unit is made according to a two-shaft scheme and consists of a separation housing with boxes of drive units, a compressor, a turbine, a combustion chamber, an output device and is equipped with a reverse. The engine is started using an air starter. The ignition system is electronic; it consists of the 2-x SP-06VP surface discharge candles and the SKNA-22-2А ignition unit.

Over the long years of operation, the passenger aircraft Tu-134 has demonstrated its reliability and efficiency, meeting the requirements of its time. In terms of reliability coefficient, this airliner proved to be almost trouble-free machine. An outstanding feature of the Tu-134 remains the unsurpassed so far restrictions on the values ​​of the lateral (20 m / s) and counter (30 m / s) wind components at the time of take-off and landing. In the conditions of the Soviet Union, where most of the airfields had only one runway, this quality of the Tu-134 played a significant role in increasing the regularity of flights.

After the entry of 2002 Chapter 3 of ICAO, which tightened noise standards for aircraft, came into effect in 16, operation of the Tu-134 aircraft in the EU countries was banned; today, the airliner is used almost exclusively on domestic routes in Russia and several CIS countries.

Flight technical characteristics of the Tu-134B:

Sizes: wingspan - 29 m., Length - 37, 1 m., Height - 9,02 m.
Wing area - 127,3 square. m
The aircraft's normal take-off weight is 47 600 kg., The maximum take-off is 49 000 kg., The empty mass is 29 000 kg.
Engine type - 2 TRDD D-30 thrust - 2х66,7 kN.
The maximum speed is 880 km / h.
The flight range is 2020 km.
Operational ceiling - 10 100 m.
Required runway length - 2550 m.
Crew - 3 person.
Maximum number of passenger seats - 96

Information sources:
-http: //www.calend.ru/event/2551
-http: //www.aero-news.ru/tu-134
-http: //www.airwar.ru/enc/aliner/tu134.html
-http: //lenta.ru/news/2013/02/18/tu134
-http: //ru.wikipedia.org
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  1. +8
    29 July 2013 07: 23
    The car is really reliable and well-developed !!!
    1. +9
      29 July 2013 10: 34
      Quote: studentmati
      The car is really reliable and well-developed !!!

      Posh car.
      It’s only a pity that his descendant Tu-334 is ruining him for the sake of his sawing duperjet!
      1. Constantine
        -4
        29 July 2013 11: 42
        Quote: kris
        Posh car.
        It’s only a pity that his descendant Tu-334 is ruining him for the sake of his sawing duperjet!


        Did he understand what he said? Tu-334 is morally obsolete. To sell the aircraft and it was commercially successful, it must be relevant for another 10-20 years. Otherwise, it makes no sense. The fact that the location of the engines imposes certain subtleties on its control has never been said. As well as the advantage, as well as outdated on-board systems. smile There are many stocks in it. Instead of unsubstantiated verbiage, I propose to get acquainted with the opinions of real experts, and not journalistic populists who master the budget of Boeing and Airbus by pushing deliberately losing options, as well as cultivating certain, false, views on the situation.

        Chris, it feels like you really get high when you manage to make at least some, well-grounded, or not, vysyl towards the authorities and those who have at least some relation to the authorities. It strongly gives away some personal insult and complex. Tie this up with you. It does not do honor to you wink
        1. +11
          29 July 2013 12: 49
          Quote: Constantine
          Quote: kris
          Posh car.
          It’s only a pity that his descendant Tu-334 is ruining him for the sake of his sawing duperjet!


          Did he understand what he said?

          He understood ... And did you even understand yourself that you wrote further? ..
          Quote: Constantine
          Tu-334 is morally obsolete. To sell the aircraft and it was commercially successful, it must be relevant for another 10-20 years. Otherwise, it makes no sense. The fact that the location of the engines imposes certain subtleties on its control has never been said. As well as the advantage, as well as outdated on-board systems. ... there are many stocks in it. Instead of unsubstantiated verbiage, I propose to get acquainted with the opinions of real experts, and not journalistic populists who master the budget of Boeing and Airbus by pushing deliberately losing options, as well as cultivating certain, false, views on the situation.

          But the facts are such that the brainchild of the holder of the Order of Merit for the Italian Republic, in general, no one really needs ... The same Ukrainian An-148 is a much more successful plane than the highly publicized Super-Jet-100 , and if the last carte blanche from the Russian authorities had not been there, that yak plywood would have flown over the capital French city of Paris ...
          And the fact that the allegedly Tu-334 is "morally obsolete" is a sweet fairy tale from Pogosyan's PR specialists ... Well, it was necessary to somehow justify the fact that a car that was actually ready for mass production was to be crushed ...
          And one more fact in catching up - on the "imported" An-148 there are more Russian components than on the "Russian" type "Super-Jet". At the same time, he is cheaper than Pogosyan's miscarriage, but in no way inferior to him. Isn't that funny? ..
          1. Constantine
            -12
            29 July 2013 14: 07
            Quote: Chicot 1
            But the facts are such that the brainchild of the holder of the Order of Merit for the Italian Republic, in general, no one really needs ... The same Ukrainian An-148 is a much more successful plane than the highly publicized Super-Jet-100 , and if the last carte blanche from the Russian authorities had not been there, that yak plywood would have flown over the capital French city of Paris ...
            And the fact that the allegedly Tu-334 is "morally obsolete" is a sweet fairy tale from Pogosyan's PR specialists ... Well, it was necessary to somehow justify the fact that a car that was actually ready for mass production was to be crushed ...
            And one more fact in catching up - on the "imported" An-148 there are more Russian components than on the "Russian" type "Super-Jet". At the same time, he is cheaper than Pogosyan's miscarriage, but in no way inferior to him. Isn't that funny? ..


            I suspect that you, too, are building conclusions not on knowledge of economics and the mechanics of doing business, but on personal judgments and preferences. smile
        2. avt
          +9
          29 July 2013 15: 42
          Quote: Constantine
          Instead of unsubstantiated verbiage, I propose to get acquainted with the opinions of real experts, and not journalistic populists,

          I heard and saw the opinion of a real expert, the person who flew on it - Magomed Talboev. Unfortunately, he said very little and briefly - “an excellent plane.” By the way, he said that in the Air Force all the remaining Tu-134s should be replaced by Tu-334s.
          1. Constantine
            -5
            29 July 2013 16: 06
            Quote: avt
            I heard and saw the opinion of a real expert, the person who flew on it - Magomed Talboev. Unfortunately, he said very little and briefly - “an excellent plane.” By the way, he said that in the Air Force all the remaining Tu-134s should be replaced by the Tu-334.


            This means that the opinions of experts differ. Strange, but for the inquiry about Magomed Talboyev and Tu-334, Google issued links to Gorbachev's Novaya Gazeta, whose sponsored Radio Liberty is known to whom, and further smaller, but similar in rhetoric. Yes, they argue that the modern Russian aviation industry is bullshit, and Poghosyan hacked down worthy projects (as if he was forcing them to take SSJ). By the way, Poghosyan came to his current position after the Tu-334 flew in 1999. Probably, Poghosyan, just in case, hacked to death 334, otherwise he would suddenly get into civil aircraft construction, and there is such a competitor wink Personally, my opinion is that the story of the Tu-334 is an excellent tool for pro-Western media and their partners to once again find fault with what is being done in the aviation industry, taking away the eyes of an inexperienced layman on a false trail. That supposedly everything should be produced in Russia from the very beginning. This is patriotic, yes, but at the same time, journalists are silent about the fact that we do not have competitive production facilities in all areas from the cycle because in the 90s a lot was bent. Titanium - yes, individual nodes - yes, but not all 100%. In general, such media will return to patriotism only when it is profitable.

            Let’s raise Poghosyan to the forks, but then instead of establishing production, expanding the base, training personnel, etc. due to solid orders for SSJ (and it’s not bad, I flew it 4 times and Western cars, it feels like it’s not inferior) will be minimized, and Tupolevsky after-sales service, coupled with engine gluttony, an extra crew member, etc. ., will make it theirs 100%, without a way to restore the full production cycle, but they will fly as much as the Tu-204 flies before modernization in the Tu-204SM, which gives at least hope.

            As a result, expensive maintenance, unnecessary expenses on board an engineer, higher fuel consumption and other subtleties will lead to the fact that ticket prices rise, or the airline’s margin drops. Like any person who is responsible for the activities of any company, the one who makes the decision will choose the same Boeing (in airlines there is a very large turnover in relation to profit, so they have almost no free money), which is simpler and cheaper in service and in the Tu-334 we will bury both money and time. smile In the case of 334, yes, they would have shoved it into Aeroflot due to administrative resources. So here the patriotic appeals and arguments of the journalists who hate Russia are nothing more than a manipulation tool, and many are underway. sad
          2. Constantine
            -3
            29 July 2013 16: 08
            Quote: avt
            I heard and saw the opinion of a real expert, the person who flew on it - Magomed Talboev. Unfortunately, he said very little and briefly - “an excellent plane.” By the way, he said that in the Air Force all the remaining Tu-134s should be replaced by the Tu-334.


            And further. Regarding the fact that Tupolev was hacked at 334. I want to remind you that Tupolev himself, at one time, executed the promising design bureaus of Bartini, Myasishchev and other competitors-contemporaries at the expense of the administrative resource so condemned, in this case, wink
            1. avt
              +8
              29 July 2013 16: 53
              Quote: Constantine
              And further. Regarding the fact that Tupolev was hacked at 334. I want to remind you that Tupolev himself, at one time, executed the promising design bureaus of Bartini, Myasishchev and other competitors-contemporaries due to the administrative resource so condemned, in this case, wink

              This is strong! Nothing that he has long been alive? And what will we do with the Yak-130? Yakovlev, too, was not a carrot and spoiled the blood of many
              Quote: Constantine
              Personally, my opinion is that the story of the Tu-334 is a great tool for pro-Western media and their partners to once again find fault with what is being done in the aviation industry
              Especially when you consider that OFFICIALLY Boeing participates in the Sujet with “intellectual property.” But I don’t want to go into technical details - I didn’t work in the aviation industry, but for example, the reduction of crew members does not cause unequivocal delight in me like you do. I saw an interview with an Aeroflot pilot , when he retired, he told how he got into a bus with the co-pilot and complained very much that the two of them were in the cockpit. When asked by the journalist - why were they silent then? He answered sincerely - and who, and even before retirement, wants to stay without work, to be Business is good as long as it does not affect safety. For some reason, the same Tolboyev is very worried that in order to reduce weight on passenger planes they removed an additional control system, mechanics, let the avionics correct me if not so, but left only the remote -EDU. And by the way, I saw how at the show one American from Boeing rejoiced at the Tu-334 about how the plane for local airlines was thought out. he was familiar with our airfield farm laughing , so he really liked that the gangway is not needed - you can take passengers from the ground and the engines are high - you will collect horseradish stones. So the real, and not administrative, competitor of the Tu-334 is only the An-148, yes, his take-off and landing characteristics should, in principle, be better, it still moved under the wing, and the heir to Cheburashka himself. talk about ticket prices ...... laughing It’s kind of like that - here we’ll enter the WTO and prices will fall. But one shopkeeper - according to the new retailer Potapenko, it seems, so frankly said - with what they say a fright. There is a demand - we will keep prices. Believe me - the same canoe will be with air tickets.
              1. Constantine
                -4
                29 July 2013 17: 26
                Quote: avt
                This is strong! Nothing that he has long been alive? And what will we do with the Yak-130? Yakovlev, too, was not a carrot and spoiled the blood of many


                A company is a separate organism. Many of the founders of well-known and huge companies are not alive, but this does not mean that the vector of their movement changes radically after the death of the founder.

                Quote: avt
                I saw an interview with an Aeroflot pilot, when he retired, he told how he got into a bus with a co-pilot and very much complained that they were in the cockpit. To the question of the journalist - did they keep silent then? He answered sincerely - and to whom, and even before retirement, the desire to stay out of work, to be thrown out with a wolf ticket? Business is good, as long as security is not affected.


                And many accidents occurred on airplanes due to the replacement of an engineer’s board with electronics? smile

                And by the way, I saw how one Americanos from Boeing was happy at the Tu-334 on the show that the plane for local airlines was thought out, I knew he was laughing at the airport, he really liked that the ramp is not needed - you can take passengers from the ground and the engines are high - you’ll pick up horseradish stones.


                In Russia, a huge number of aircraft with engines under the wings are operating. How many Boeing, Airbus, SSJ engines went out of order / was damaged by stones? smile

                So the real, and not administrative, competitor of the Tu-334 is only the An-148, yes, his take-off and landing characteristics, in principle, should be better, still moved under the wing, and the heir to Cheburashka himself.


                Your opinion is interesting, but I would not discount SSJ. His commercial success speaks for itself.

                Quote: avt
                Well, talk about ticket prices ...... It’s kind of like that - we’ll enter the WTO and prices will drop. But one shopkeeper - according to the new retailer Potapenko, it seems, so frankly said - with what they say a fright. There is a demand - we will keep prices. Believe me - the same canoe will be with air tickets.


                I briefly explained to you the basic mechanism of the airline from an economic point of view. The fact that there are additional factors, such as premium, etc., I do not deny. However, in the aviation business, the industry is highly competitive, and with a high cost part, it is also risky. This can be seen in the example of low-cost airlines, which, while they can survive for a long time, and even more so, can be a plus. High consumables, by the way, is one of the reasons why airlines lease planes. They do not have the free money needed to buy on the go, without consequences for operating activities.
                1. avt
                  +3
                  29 July 2013 19: 14
                  Quote: Constantine
                  Your opinion is interesting, but I would not discount SSJ. His commercial success speaks for itself.

                  Well this is too bright! As long as the commercial success, in terms of the payback of the project, is not even said by its creator and the main pusher. Only after the transfer of the copy to Mexico did we talk about powerful prospects and future options in Latin America. For the time being, even francs at a loss do the engines and say that the payback will be 40 if a year, or a month they will do it, I don’t remember exactly.
                  Quote: Constantine
                  I briefly explained to you the basic mechanism of the airline from an economic point of view. The fact that there are additional factors, such as premium, etc., I do not deny. However, in the aviation business, the industry is highly competitive, and with a high cost part, it is also risky. This can be seen in the example of low-cost airlines, which, while they can survive for a long time, and even more so, can be a plus.

                  smile It is a pity that the Abramovich brothers from Krazaire will not hear you before the bankruptcy of the company and those guys who raised the price of kerosene - the market, you understand, adjusted everything, and so cleverly that only the cheap carriers that appeared immediately died at the stage of occurrence. But now Aeroflot has suddenly become preoccupied with low-cost airlines, though it will break the refusal of obligatory services such as meals, of course it will be possible to eat but for a fee, and here with the tickets - well, the refund, all tickets will now be non-refundable. Well, neither give nor take as the deceased Kozlov with state papers was wise before default 98 ala Mavrodi, while the MMM pyramid was covered, having money, well, whoever touches the government papers. Although Kozlova was shot on Olenny Val.
                  1. Constantine
                    -3
                    29 July 2013 20: 10
                    Quote: avt
                    Well this is too bright! As long as the commercial success, in terms of the payback of the project, is not even said by its creator and the main pusher. Only after the transfer of the copy to Mexico did we talk about powerful prospects and future options in Latin America. For the time being, even francs at a loss do the engines and say that the payback will be 40 if a year, or a month they will do it, I don’t remember exactly.


                    There are reports that indicate firm orders. There are production growth rates, which are also not bad. If my memory serves me right, from this month the GSS will produce 3 SSJ per month, and from 2014 - 40 aircraft per year.

                    For now, even francs at a loss engines do

                    Engines for SSJ are produced by NPO Saturn, which is part of Rostec.

                    It would be interesting to see your sources of information. hi

                    It is a pity that the Abramovich brothers from Krazaire will not hear you before the bankruptcy of the company and those guys who raised the price of kerosene - the market, you understand, adjusted everything, and so cleverly that only the cheap carriers that appeared immediately died at the stage of occurrence. But now Aeroflot has suddenly become preoccupied with low-cost airlines, though it will break the refusal of obligatory services such as meals, of course it will be possible to eat but for a fee, and here with the tickets - well, the refund, all tickets will now be non-refundable. Well, neither give nor take as the deceased Kozlov with state papers was wise before default 98 ala Mavrodi, while the MMM pyramid was covered, having money, well, whoever touches the government papers. Although Kozlova was shot on Olenny Val.


                    No large company in the world does not solve its problems head on. There are always levers of pressure on companies that are in symbiosis. Aeroflot has such a lever. Ryanair has such leverage. EasyJet has such a lever. What is it all about? Nothing is impossible, it was just necessary to solve cases the way they are solved worldwide in practice, and not the way 1000 books written by theorists teach. I somehow somehow they hear me, or not. smile If we are destined to cross, then my position will not be changed.

                    Now for those who are minus. You either go ahead and minus by inertia, or justify your point of view. Quieters. sad
      2. +7
        29 July 2013 12: 38
        Quote: kris
        his descendant Tu-334 is ruined for the sake of his sawing duperjet!

        Not an eyebrow, an eye! .. good
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    2. vyatom
      +4
      29 July 2013 15: 51
      Always flew with pleasure on the TU-134 and TU-154 from early childhood. Now I don’t really like Boeing, it shakes them quite a lot.
      It is a pity that we did not create a replacement for these wonderful machines (I mean TU-134 and TU-154). Yak-42 incidentally is also one of my favorite aircraft.
    3. 0
      30 July 2013 21: 32
      Quote: studentmati
      The car is really reliable and well-developed !!!
      Former glory - glorious era ..
  2. Valery Neonov
    +17
    29 July 2013 07: 35
    However, a good airplane, like everything made in the USSR! good
    1. Gari
      +8
      29 July 2013 09: 43
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      However, a good airplane, like everything made in the USSR!

      Not just good-reliable, practical and elegant
      looks handsome.
      1. +6
        29 July 2013 10: 09
        It’s a pity that it’s outdated, but there is no replacement. For that and the years on Boeing and watermelons.
  3. +7
    29 July 2013 07: 39
    A good car, but no decent replacement, all in pieces and on paper. The support of the civil aviation industry in favor of the foreign from our bureaucrats is clearly visible.
    1. Constantine
      -3
      29 July 2013 11: 44
      Quote: Alez
      A good car, but no decent replacement, all in pieces and on paper. The support of the civil aviation industry in favor of the foreign from our bureaucrats is clearly visible.


      SSJ-100, An-148, MS-21, Tu-204SM
      1. +3
        29 July 2013 16: 24
        One gets the impression that you do not quite understand what you are talking about, of the "options" given by you, only "An" is an analogue. MC and Tu are more "distant" class and were created (tsya) to replace the Tu-154. the moment, although it is a commercially successful project (we will not go into the reasons, but YET it is so). It was created at a higher technological level, but far enough from the erefi realities, or rather infrastructure, its operation will not differ much from the "watermelon" when everything saved on fuel is spent in a service center (Moscow) on a bribe so that they can queue up closer (and quickly set up the regulations). At the same time, not every airport (where the Tu-134 landed) will be able to accept this "miracle" (in terms of the quality of the runway). A rather significant drawback of the Tu-334 is the layout, which does not allow the use of "active blowing" systems, it is difficult to reach the air ducts from the engines to the wing. It is a successful car. But the state that produces it is not constant. This, Alez, has no real replacement rights.
        1. Constantine
          -3
          29 July 2013 20: 14
          Quote: Argon
          One gets the impression that you do not quite understand what you are talking about, of the "options" given by you, only "An" is an analogue. MC and Tu are more "distant" class and were created (tsya) to replace the Tu-154. the moment, although it is a commercially successful project (we will not go into the reasons, but YET it is so). It was created at a higher technological level, but far enough from the erefi realities, or rather infrastructure, its operation will not differ much from the "watermelon" when everything saved on fuel is spent in a service center (Moscow) on a bribe so that they can queue up closer (and quickly set up the regulations). At the same time, not every airport (where the Tu-134 landed) will be able to accept this "miracle" (in terms of the quality of the runway). A rather significant drawback of the Tu-334 is the layout, which does not allow the use of "active blowing" systems, it is difficult to reach the air ducts from the engines to the wing. It is a successful car. But the state that produces it is not constant. This, Alez, has no real replacement rights.


          It was about dismantling the industry as a whole. At least such a context was felt.
          1. 0
            29 July 2013 22: 44
            It is clear, another moderator-administrator; trying to gain experience in a dispute? Even on this site I have not seen a more ridiculous attempt to include the "back". What context? A short comment, your "incompetent" answer is not the topic you chose.
            1. Constantine
              +1
              29 July 2013 23: 35
              Quote: Argon
              It is clear, another moderator-administrator; trying to gain experience in a dispute? Even on this site I have not seen a more ridiculous attempt to include the "back". What context? A short comment, your "incompetent" answer is not the topic you chose.


              Your opinion is very important to me. hi
      2. +1
        29 July 2013 23: 03
        Well, you compared superjets with the Tu-134.134-ka much more effective than it
  4. pinecone
    +4
    29 July 2013 08: 23
    The plane, the image of which flaunted on packs of Soviet cigarettes called "Tu-134". A unique case.
    1. AVV
      +4
      29 July 2013 11: 27
      He has no price! Really proven car? And TU-334 should finally find its buyer !!! This is the same as the story with the Kamov helicopters is repeated !!!
      1. Constantine
        -4
        29 July 2013 12: 28
        He has no price! Really proven car? And TU-334 should finally find its buyer !!! This is the same as the story with the Kamov helicopters is repeated !!!


        334 became obsolete 20 years ago. He will not find his buyer because civil aviation is guided by economic expediency. A crew of 3 people instead of 2, outdated components, poor maintainability of engines due to their location, overweight design that affects fuel consumption, gluttonous engines, etc. The list can be long. Does anyone really not understand that the Tu-334 is being swayed by individuals only in order to gain benefits for themselves personally and far from aviation. Promote on the feelings of ordinary people, make yourself a PR on the "bones". I saw these videos about the people's Tu-334, etc. Birch has already made a people's car and where is it? History teaches nothing? And the arguments of these people, from an economic point of view, were similar to baby talk in a nursery, which is designed for those who are affected by loud slogans without justification. sad
    2. 12061973
      +5
      29 July 2013 11: 30
      Quote: pinecone
      The plane, the image of which flaunted on packs of Soviet cigarettes called "Tu-134".

      Bulgarian cigarettes.
    3. +1
      29 July 2013 13: 26
      But what about the Liner cigarettes? Are they the first with the plane?
  5. Constantine
    +12
    29 July 2013 08: 44
    Whoever says about Soviet planes, when I hear the rumble of their engines, I immediately remember my childhood and a set of other positive memories smile

    You just listen. Sounds like home. smile

    1. Gari
      +8
      29 July 2013 09: 48
      Quote: Constantine
      Whoever says about Soviet planes, when I hear the rumble of their engines, I immediately remember my childhood and a set of other positive memories

      I absolutely agree, I recently heard a rumble on my head, I thought something familiar was our Soviet airplane, and this handsome Tu-134 looked up, just like nostalgia somehow seemed to me, or Boeing and Airbasy.
    2. +3
      29 July 2013 17: 37
      And the truth is - "whistle"!
  6. Volodya Sibiryak
    +4
    29 July 2013 08: 45
    Oh, and he is noisy, and he should have a healthy run, his heart was beating when he watched from the side.
  7. +6
    29 July 2013 10: 02
    My favorite plane.
    My cadet youth, home - from home.
    Tashkent - Guriev - Donetsk - Kaliningrad. And back.
    The most interesting thing was to sit a little behind the wing. Due to the advanced mechanization during landing, the wing practically fell apart - it was so interesting.
    But, I note, at 154, the picture is even more impressive.
    ...
    "It's good to be young. Even with a block around your neck!"
  8. +5
    29 July 2013 10: 45
    The plane is certainly good, but damn so loud !!!
  9. +3
    29 July 2013 11: 14
    I flew on it a lot. In normal configuration, I always liked him a lot more than the Yak-42, Tu-154. Nice, comfortable plane.
  10. pinecone
    +2
    29 July 2013 11: 20
    That's it, cozy.
    1. +6
      29 July 2013 15: 21
      I flew it only once from St. Petersburg to Moscow, but I remembered horror and inconvenience for the rest of my life. The American roller coaster is even less terrible. When landing, they drove down like the last time. And the coziness and comfort were impressive: the seat was somehow crushed, I was sitting on the iron frame of the base, the knees rested in the previous row, it was impossible to lean back, and it was also impossible to lean forward, because the plane flew with a slightly raised nose. I admit that this was just an old instance. But there was no talk of an even calm landing. It’s a pity. On the other hand, he is very beautiful.
  11. +7
    29 July 2013 11: 49
    quote-The Tu-134 jet aircraft is rightfully recognized as one of the most successful projects in the field of domestic passenger aircraft construction.

    that's it. good
  12. +7
    29 July 2013 11: 55
    Quote: Gari
    Not just good-reliable, practical and elegant

    Reliable - by itself (although Dimon has a different opinion, do you remember his "command" to remove them from service?). Tu-134 is a real workhorse of the Air Force. A whole regiment of training aircraft for navigating training was based in VVVAUSH. I flew there as a cadet (in the 70s) on the Tu-124Sh1 and An-12. Cadets of the MRA faculty (naval missile-carrying aviation) studied on Tu-134SH. We flew a lot, both day and night. Nice to remember! ..
    1. +3
      29 July 2013 14: 23
      Col.

      Greetings, colleague!

      Branch of VVVAUSH (1986-1990).
  13. teceitap
    +1
    29 July 2013 12: 03
    His ears were heavily stuffed. Airplane class
  14. oldok
    +7
    29 July 2013 12: 14
    He flew 134 to 8-10 times a year for 15 years. After IL-18, it’s just a fairy tale: it’s comfortable, it didn’t put ears on takeoff and landing, it didn’t turn inside out in air holes, the seats were soft, the beautiful stewardesses were smiling. A look! At one time, after the start of regular flights around the Union, it looked like a spaceship. One word is Aeroflot!
  15. +6
    29 July 2013 12: 33
    Eh, and after all good I once flew on "one hundred and thirty-fourth"! fellow And once even on the Tu-124 (which can be said to be the "daddy" of the Tu-134) ... bully
    Happy anniversary to you, "one hundred and thirty-fourth"! love Fifty is not a deadline for you! .. drinks

    Tu-134 (projection)
  16. +9
    29 July 2013 13: 42
    Tu-XNUMHUBL at the airport in Yeisk.
  17. +5
    29 July 2013 13: 43
    Quote: Chicot 1
    Tu-134 (projection)

    Projections by projections, but what about without the traditional (from me) air art in the subject ... wink

    Tu-134A (work by Andrei Zhirnov; high-quality and clickable wallpaper) ...
  18. +4
    29 July 2013 14: 03
    A good car, but you need to create new ones.
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  20. PistonizaToR
    +4
    29 July 2013 16: 17
    Such "effective managers" have ruined our entire aircraft industry. You would only have to cut the loot, the rest is not of interest to you. Current, that's bullshit, with an alliance, everyone flew on inefficient planes, any collective farmer, when and where necessary, and now it's cheaper to fly to Pintossia than Let 334 lose today, but if he is in the ranks, some 444 will shut up the descendants of watermelons and Boeing tomorrow, because worker Petya and engineer Vasya will do and invent today, they will feed their families and their children will follow in their footsteps .And today, thanks to the hucksters in the management of companies and the government, we are feeding the lucrative European and Pintossia ...
    1. Constantine
      -1
      29 July 2013 18: 20
      Quote: PistonizaToR
      Such "effective managers" have ruined our entire aircraft industry. You would only have to cut the loot, the rest is not of interest to you. Current, that's bullshit, with an alliance, everyone flew on inefficient planes, any collective farmer, when and where necessary, and now it's cheaper to fly to Pintossia than Let 334 lose today, but if he is in the ranks, some 444 will shut up the descendants of watermelons and Boeing tomorrow, because worker Petya and engineer Vasya will do and invent today, they will feed their families and their children will follow in their footsteps .And today, thanks to the hucksters in the management of companies and the government, we are feeding the lucrative European and Pintossia ...


      If this is for me, then try to convey the essence of your thoughts in a more accessible way. nothing really is understood in this chaos. Thanks in advance hi
  21. 0
    29 July 2013 18: 10
    There are good planes, there are bad ones, and there are ILs that TU, YAK, and BOEING are not suited for. The only competitor is AN. And I think that these firms will be the first.
  22. pinecone
    +2
    29 July 2013 19: 04
    Quote: 12061973
    Quote: pinecone
    The plane, the image of which flaunted on packs of Soviet cigarettes called "Tu-134".

    Bulgarian cigarettes.

    Guilty, I’ll correct it.
    1. 12061973
      +2
      29 July 2013 20: 32
      Quote: pinecone
      Guilty, I will correct

      nostalgic memories.
  23. pinecone
    +1
    29 July 2013 19: 25
    Quote: kirpich
    But what about the Liner cigarettes? Are they the first with the plane?

    I remember. 24 kopecks a pack, but there the type of machine was not indicated, although it seemed to be similar to IL-18.
  24. PistonizaToR
    +2
    29 July 2013 20: 14
    Yes, the fact that you can and should fly your own planes, and not feed the imperialists. Who else can we afford it ...?
  25. PistonizaToR
    +2
    29 July 2013 20: 16
    Effective managers are better if they sell our potatoes, rather than rule the industry ...
  26. +6
    29 July 2013 22: 14
    it is regrettable that in Russia nothing but a "Superjet" has been invented for civil aviation. Even the An-124 production facility still cannot be restored. Tu-134 was good for its time, but it would be time to create a replacement, preferably not Boeings and Airbuses
    1. 0
      3 August 2013 20: 43
      Have a light here ...
  27. 0
    30 July 2013 06: 43
    The Superjet has no analogues yet in the Russian Aviation Industry. Well, no, that's all, haven't you worked on this topic for how many years? I believe that the appearance of proven, and most importantly, "virtually unitary" components on a Russian aircraft is certainly more a plus than a minus. Why? Unification and maintainability for foreign carriers. Ability to work with them technicians anywhere in the world. There is nothing shameful in this. No one will be able to catch up with Boeing and Airbus in terms of experience and experience, at least in the foreseeable future. If gliders have not yet begun to rivet and design, then this is good, even glorious. And avionics should be installed proven, and from the best manufacturers. At least not yet. My personal opinion .. The propulsion system of the Tu 334 is outdated. And there are a lot of reasons for this.
  28. i.xxx-1971
    0
    2 August 2013 02: 06
    IL-86 did not suffer a single disaster.
    1. Alex 241
      0
      2 August 2013 02: 10
      mistaken dear. two, one in Sheremetyevo, the second in Dubai.
  29. Alex 241
    0
    2 August 2013 02: 11

    July 28, 2002 After taking off from Sheremetyevo, the interchangeable stabilizer transferred from the take-off position to the extreme position for cabriding in a few seconds. The crew did not manage to use the reserve control of it. The plane reached supercritical angles of attack, which led to stall, fell into the forest, survived 2 flight attendants, 14 people were killed.
  30. Alex 241
    0
    2 August 2013 02: 13
    Airline: Aeroflot - Russian Airlines
    Flight: 521
    He landed at the destination airport with the landing gear retracted and the wing mechanized. In the process of driving along the lane, engines No. 2 and 3 were ignited, as well as in the tail section. After the stop, passengers and crew were safely evacuated, and the fire was quickly eliminated by the fire brigades of the airport. The aircraft received significant damage to the airframe and power plants and was subsequently declared unsuitable for restoration.

    Dubai Airport's approach approach to reduce noise involves landing gear shortly before touching. The IL-86 aircraft is equipped with sound and light alarms “release the landing gear”, which is triggered when flaps are lowered to the landing position. PIC ordered to turn off the alarm so that its work does not interfere with the crew between the release of the flaps and the chassis. Subsequently, the alarm was not turned on. In the future, the crew continued to violate the requirements of the RLE flight engineer read out a control card and he answered all its points. His actions were not controlled by other crew members. As a result, he mistakenly thought that the chassis had been released. None of the other crew members controlled the position of the chassis, and disabling the alarm did not allow to detect an error.
    1. Alex 241
      0
      2 August 2013 02: 29
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      1. Alex 241
        0
        2 August 2013 02: 30
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  31. 0
    2 August 2013 14: 04
    The plane is successful. The main disadvantage is increased fuel consumption. Increased - this is still mildly said. : ((If there is free fuel - Tu-134 is not much equal, in terms of handling, reliability among short-haul ones. But where can I get free fuel?
  32. fall
    -1
    3 August 2013 05: 34
    How many Western companies bought this plane - NOT ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. Su-9
      +1
      12 August 2013 06: 01
      Tu-134 was the most "exportable" of the USSR passenger aircraft. In addition, it was the most reliable (up to 12t. Hours for failure) and the most "volatile".
      Yes, it was mainly bought by our satellites, but many of them bought Western equipment if they could afford it for money. Bulgarians, Yugas, for example, had alternatives, but chose 134th.
      Of the minuses - this is of course the D-30, and all its problems with efficiency, noise, etc.
      Regarding conversations - who bought this plane, why Westerners did not buy it, and so on. Commercial airlines buy a plane with a service infrastructure. Nobody in the West would buy an airplane from a country (USSR) which, in a year, due to a change in the political situation, could declare a boycott, blockade, Cuban crisis, Prague68 or Poland80. Too much risk. Because of this, they did not risk taking our very good equipment. Plus a semi-state management scheme for airlines in most European countries until the 90s.

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