Pyongyang Military Parade

27 July 2013 held a military parade in the DPRK capital devoted to the 60 anniversary of the end of the Korean War or as it is called in the DPRK - the Patriotic War of Liberation 1950-53. On the podium, along with the DPRK leader Marshal Kim Jong-un and other Korean leaders, you can also notice the representatives of China, Iran and other friendly countries.

The full video of the parade from the Chinese portal ifeng, the quality is not very good and Chinese commentators sometimes drown out the original sound, but so far this is the only full video that I found. When it appears in better quality, I will lay them out too. The parade itself begins at 35 minutes, at first it’s historical part (veterans, soldiers in the form of the times of that war, etc.).

Some photos and frames from the International Radio of China. On the left of Kim Jong-un on the podium is Vice-Chairman of the People's Republic of China Li Yuanchao, on his right hand, through two Korean military leaders, you can see an Iranian general wearing sunglasses.

Comments

[borisjdin1957]

from the Don.
Some military men in skirts, I'll give you! And the rest is the last century!

[fartfraer]

rich in resources and stabilization funds, money and industries, Russia still has the t-62, also the last century, dare to notice. The northerners in the blockade manage to contain a huge army, are developing weapons and still do not bend under the Americans.
their obstinacy at least deserves respect

[sevtrash]

Obedience is, of course, good. For whom, only. Power they live well, in fact, like everywhere else. They rest against. But what about ordinary people? Hunger, informational restriction - is this not for them? Someone doubt that the South Koreans live much better, fuller, more interesting?

[fartfraer]

I won’t argue, but the northerners live as they see fit. Just as an example, the Nazis took France in two weeks and the French lived under the Germans quite well, and Belarus resisted (part of the USSR and partisans), lost more than 600 villages with the entire population, but I don’t think that they (Belarusians) regret that they offered such resistance. It’s just an offhand example, I can recall and bring something like that from our history, but not one example. It’s a matter of people’s choice, not for us (you, me, amers, anyone) dictate to them how they live.

[sevtrash]

Quote: fartfraer

not for us (you, me, amers, anyone) to dictate to them how to live.

I agree. But they don’t know another life, they have no choice.
Of course, if someone like Gorbachev comes to power, they don’t shine anything good, most of them more precisely. But if you combine them with South Korea, then I think that both the current and the next generation of North Koreans would live much better.
It’s another matter that the current authorities categorically will not allow this, since they are living very well. And China arranges a sort of manual dog - a pit bull on its side and on a leash.

[Drosselmeyer]

What do you measure with stamps a hundred years ago. The world has changed. No one will massively genocide the northerners. They will also be given money. Borrow. And then they will take it again, so that they would not pay off in centuries. Southerners do not need these poor northerners. No one wants to drag out from the 50s.

[RoTTor]

What does it mean "better, fuller, more interesting"? Rockefeller correctly said: "And I will be buried in one single suit."
An interesting life is only possible when there is confidence in the future - for yourself and the children. In the USSR it was, in the DPRK it is. Who does not understand, it is useless to explain how to plant smallpox on a telegraph pole.

[sevtrash]

Similarly. If you do not understand “better, fuller, more interesting” then you

Quote: RoTTor

it is useless to explain how to vaccinate smallpox on a telegraph pole.

Confidence confidence discord. Most North Koreans are deprived of the benefits of civilization enjoyed by the South Koreans. And the latter have much more confidence in the future than the North Koreans, who, if you have heard, have problems even with food - hunger in general happens to them.
Read at least this, although I don’t understand how you can’t imagine life in this country having the Internet.
http://www.tema.ru/travel/north-korea-1/

[dustycat]

Quote: sevtrash

Confidence confidence discord. Most North Koreans are deprived of the benefits of civilization enjoyed by the South Koreans.

However, monolithic houses are being built.
I have under my supervision the house of the series that in most of the shots is in the background (16-story skyscrapers). For our Siberian climate, without a ventilated facade, this is not the topic, but for theirs just right.

Quote: sevtrash

And the latter have much more confidence in the future,

And South Korean psychiatrists have no idea what to do with the highest suicide rates in the region. Even the Japanese surpassed.
North Korean generally closed of course.
But even taking into account the example of the USSR / Russia — when peppy Soviet and athletic marches ceased broadcasting in the mornings — the level doubled. The same situation is not ruled out there.

[sevtrash]

Quote: dustycat

However, monolithic houses are being built.

I kind of cited the link. There are about houses with photos. You first look at the actual material.

Quote: dustycat

And South Korean psychiatrists have no idea what to do with the highest suicide rates in the region.

... Over the past decade, the number of suicides among young people has increased 3 times. The main causes of suicide: unrequited love, conflicts with parents and peers, fear of the future, loneliness. Every year, every twelfth teenager aged 15-19 years old tries to commit suicide ...
Unfortunately, the openness of a free society also leads to this, the flip side of the coin, the payment for freedom. More freedom, including this one.

[grafrozow]

Quote: RoTTor

An interesting life is only possible when there is confidence in the future - for yourself and the children. In the USSR it was, in the DPRK it is. Who does not understand, it is useless to explain how to plant smallpox on a telegraph pole.

DPRK, Vietnam, Laos, Afghanistan, Egypt, Syria, Cuba ... - all this is a confrontation, the USSR-USA, open your eyes, there is such a proverb "Pans are fighting and at lackeys forelocks are cracking." What does the DPRK offer of itself without the help of the USSR and Russia? Remember the movie "Prisoner of the Caucasus", but one small and proud bird said, I won’t fly to the South, I’ll fly straight to the sun. And so it flew higher and higher until it burned its wings, and fell into the deepest gorge. ... That's how the beautiful fairy tale ended.

[mnn_13]

Someone doubt that the South Koreans live much better, fuller, more interesting?

Dear Sevtrash, what do you think means living better, fuller, more interesting?
If there are no gay parades there, for example, does this mean that they live poorly?
If people have values ​​and it is true that money is not everything, does it mean that their life is not complete?
If their home appliances are not the latest model, does that mean that their life is not interesting?
I do not give definitive answers about where he lives well and where he does not. I also have doubts about the famine of North Korea. I just want to emphasize that the answers are not always as elementary as they appear on the surface.

[sevtrash]

Quote: mnn_13

Dear Sevtrash, what do you think means living better, fuller, more interesting?

Take advantage of all the benefits of civilization, I guess. Realize your desires, opportunities. Family, wealth, good job, hobby, finally. For some reason, it seems to me that this is understandable. In fact, the components of happiness, or rather their presentation, periodically appear on the Internet as a result of research and surveys. Read.

[REZMovec]

Dear!
What do you know about the life of South Koreans? Family is quite problematic with this. The prosperity is how to look. Good work - 10-14 hours a day, vacation 12 days, entered by the whistle, lunch by the whistle, and left by the whistle. The benefits of civilization - synthetic food, the Internet, a trip to the USA or Europe for a week on a tour ... Washing, microwave, smartphones - this does not count. Hobbies - Koreans are not particularly accepted. Retirement at 68. Do you envy them now?
There is nothing to pity or envy anyone. And to teach others without knowing the topic ...

[sevtrash]

Quote: REZMovec

And to teach others without knowing the topic ...

http://www.strany.net/koreasouth/korea-south-esse.htm...Женщины выходят на пенсию с 55 лет, мужчины – с 60 лет. Но поскольку средний возраст составляет 78 лет, в стране увеличивается число пожилых людей и, скорее всего, в будущем пенсионный ценз будет увеличен...
http://www.ukrinform.ua/rus/news/v_yugnoy_koree_pensionniy_vozrast_povishaetsya_
do_60_let_1513770 ... The South Korean authorities and the opposition agreed to increase the country's retirement age to 2016 by 60, according to South Korean international radio. Now this decision should be approved by the National Assembly (Parliament). Currently, South Korean legislation does not provide a clear definition of the age of citizens to retire ...
Yes, Koreans lead the 10 most industrious countries, though not at all by the whistle. ... in 2003, the National Assembly of the Republic of Korea adopted a law on the gradual introduction of a five-day working week in the country ... The implementation of the new law reduced the official working week in Korea from 44 to 40 hours ...
http://govorit.donetsk.ua/pro-rabochii-den-v-yuzhnoi-koree.html...Сотрудники корейских компаний работают в среднем по 9 часов 42 минуты в день вместо формально положенных 8 часов. Эти данные были получены на основе исследования реальной продолжительности рабочего дня 1759 сотрудников компаний, перешедших на пятидневную рабочую неделю....
About life in South Korea:
http://daypic.ru/world/127297
http://mykorea.ru/v-yuzhnuyu-koreyu-na-god-ili-istoriya-o-moyey-rabote-v-lotte-w
orld /
http://3korea.ru/lyudi/bremya-belogo-inzhenera/

And your quote is for you

Quote: REZMovec

And to teach others without knowing the topic ...

[mnn_13]

Take advantage of all the benefits of civilization, I guess. Realize your desires, opportunities. Family, wealth, good job, hobby, finally.

Dear Sevtrash,
It can be seen that for the benefits of civilization you have, first of all, the material side - it has a modern car, the latest iPhone, the ability to travel abroad and so on. I do not dispute the importance of material things, but in no case can they guarantee you a happy and full life. Est millionaires committed suicide, est people living in small villages who are happy.
The most important thing in my opinion that a person would be happy is the ego ability lives in harmony with other people - relatives, colleagues, neighbors. And you well understand that materialism and selfishness of the modern world are the main reason for the alienation of people and makes them unprincipled. I believe that you are a young man and it is quite normal that for you happiness is primarily in material things.

[sevtrash]

Dear mnn_13,
I agree with you almost completely. Without the harmony of the inner world, in the family, at work, material wealth is not a definite joy.
But in our time, leaders of countries must do as much as possible so that the inhabitants of their countries live in material prosperity, so that working diligently they - ordinary people - have enough food, shelter, can provide education for their children, medical care for the family, have the opportunity to relax on the TV, in nature, on travel, had the opportunity of social activity.
Why are North Koreans worse than South Koreans? Nothing. Why can't the power in North Korea ensure a normal, at least in some way, approximation to the South Korean, at least not hungry life? Famine in Africa, well, you can understand. And in a more or less developed country? This is a mediocre leadership, worthless power. Such power should disappear. Although this is unrealistic, as they seized power with a stranglehold and spit on ordinary people.

[dustycat]

Quote: sevtrash

Obedience is, of course, good.

This phrase sounds cool under a yellow-black flag ...

Quote: sevtrash

Someone doubt that the South Koreans live much better, fuller, more interesting?

You’ll ask the residents of our city.
Yes, and in any other outside the Moscow bypass.
They will explain to you how it is “better, fuller, more interesting” to live when you don’t know where you will go to work and whether there is enough food so that you won’t be out of hunger if you are fired from the current job to liquidate the enterprise.

In South Korea, employers are therefore forced to pay a large salary in the region because there is a "starving" North Korea.

[sevtrash]

Quote: dustycat

In South Korea, employers are therefore forced to pay a large salary in the region because there is a "starving" North Korea.

Well, at least read Wikipedia about the famine in North Korea.

[sevtrash]

Quote: dustycat

This phrase sounds cool under a yellow-black flag ...

Is this a manifestation of nationalism?

[abrakadabre]

For whom, only. Power they live well, in fact, like everywhere else. They rest against. But what about ordinary people?
And what about ordinary people? If you measure the sausage and articles of arshin, then yes, they do not live richly. But this is not the only way to measure quality of life. And it’s not at all the only true one.

[sevtrash]

Well, who says that the only one?
Take a look and read at least the links that I cited above. Actually, you yourself can find the material and compare. It’s very simple - on Wikipedia, where there is also hunger, then the somewhat arrogant expression “sausage-razor-clad” arshin will appear as malnutrition and famine for the family. Imagine what parents are. It would be hard for me, if not unbearable.

[beech]

the last photo smiled, my neighbor has the same tractor)

[fartfraer]

and in the barn under the mower did not see heaps of piece of iron (for example pipes) similar to launchers? your grandfather is suspicious, God grant him health)))

[studentmati]

The power and strength of each State in patriotic education, first of all!

[Gari]

Quote: studentmati

The power and strength of each State in patriotic education, first of all!

But they won, yes even with the help of the USSR and China, but the United States, Great Britain and a number of other countries in the UN peacekeeping force were on the side of South Korea.
They won!

[Nayhas]

Have you won? What was the victory expressed in? Is the war over at the same frontiers?

[Gari]

But unless after 1991, after the collapse of the USSR, did they not hold

[Pimply]

Well, considering that 500 thousand tons of food from the required 4.5 million are supplied by ideological enemies ...

[fartfraer]

it's so generous to arrange a blockade and feed the people)) if the northerners didn’t have such pressure from outside, they would show (possibly) the advantages of their system. it’s quite possible, because there is an example of China that managed to combine communist rule and a capitalist economy (a little figuratively, well yes I hope for understanding)

[abrakadabre]

The same can be said of Cuba. In both cases: at first practically strangle, and then broadcast to the whole world about how hard you breathe ... And in the form of divine mercy from time to time slightly open your fingers for an extra breath of air.
I wonder how well Israel would live, for example, in such a total blockade? Or in the same Monaco?

[xetai9977]

They have a very interesting step. And the girls are pretty. Well, the country shows what it has. But calling a spade a spade, they have no chance not only against the Americans, but also against the high-tech South Koreans.

[studentmati]

Strength of mind - this is the guarantee of victory for the army !!!

[fartfraer]

“they have no chance not only against the Americans, but also against the high-tech South Koreans.” - they are quite able to “break” their southern compatriots. and only the states do not allow the northerners to carry out this action

[Volkhov]

The Russian Federation has no chance against them - Primorye may take a couple of weeks.

[fartfraer]

what are you writing about?) any jingoistic patriot (four of you have already been minusanuli in passing) will tell you how our pear soldiers will carry their saboteurs with one left. Moreover, the pear will be only three, and the Koreans will be 10-15000.
although the point here is not the seizure of Primorye, the Russian Federation has enough strength to reach Pyongyang then. and the northerners do not need it, they are on the other side)) (in the literal sense)

[Volkhov]

It's just that the world is divided into systems (groups of states) - the DPRK is in another and will go where the system needs to. The Italians in the Second World War were also in the “other direction”, but they were looking for adventures in Russia.

[abrakadabre]

And most importantly - the faces of people, the emotions on the faces of the military. There you feel both the core and sincerity. Numerous photos of the military of the Soviet era always left the same impression.

[kafa]

sorry there were no jet cyclists

[studentmati]

Tractor towed jet engines? What do not suit you? "Jet Cyclists" - this is welcome to the Iranian Armed Forces parade! Also useful !!!

[Alez]

Not the Iranian army, but rather the united Baltic army

[Apollo]

Good morning everybody

quote-27 On July 2013, a military parade was held in the DPRK capital dedicated to the 60 anniversary of the end of the Korean War or, as it is called in the DPRK, the Patriotic War of Liberation 1950-53.

a brief digression into history in the form of infographics

[studentmati]

DPRK - The state is, by definition, indestructible! Comments are non-political!

[NOMADE]

The scale is impressive! ) I have a glitch .., or in photo 24 - an armored personnel carrier with 3 axes ... ??? What is it like? New modification? And in the photo - 18, what is the new ZSU, the local version of Shilka, with only 37 mm. spark?

[fzr1000]

And also the BTR KPVT is paired.

[Massik]

Very similar to the old, good, Soviet ZSU 57, which were produced in a rather wooly year ....

[dustycat]

Quote: Marssik

Very similar to the old, good, Soviet ZSU 57, which were produced in a rather wooly year ....

They are .. More precisely, the Chinese clone of the 1951 sample.

[FunkschNNX]

Somehow they are not clearly zigzagging, the fingers should be together, the palm and hand in a straight line and at an angle of 45 degrees
Tractor troops - the highlight of the parade

[abrakadabre]

And what tractors did not please you? Better chtol horse-drawn power? Of course, not armored vehicles of the leading edge, but quite a mobility and versatility.

[Bumbik]

Apparently Kim Jong-un is the most plump resident of Sev. Korea :)

[atalef]

Quote: Bumbik

Apparently Kim Jong-un is the most plump resident of Sev. Korea :)

This is their family, probably a special gene transmitted from father to son and exclusively in the KIM family. Against the backdrop of thin fellow citizens, well-fed rabbits.

[dustycat]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Bumbik

Apparently Kim Jong-un is the most plump resident of Sev. Korea :)

This is their family, probably a special gene transmitted from father to son and exclusively in the KIM family. Against the backdrop of thin fellow citizens, well-fed rabbits.

Diabetics

[grafrozow]

Three years of war. Interesting, but there are orders on the back?

[Tuzik]

This is the new Korean body armor for generals.

[Drosselmeyer]

Well, if you wear metal epaulettes, then it should protect against saber attacks))).

[mansur]

Quote: grafrozow

Three years of war. Interesting, but there are orders on the back?

Dear, you are a little bent, I think all the same orders and medals are anniversary, and 60 years after the end of the war

[grafrozow]

I can’t put the pictures next to me, I'll take off one by one.

[grafrozow]

I don’t know the author.

[Tuzik]

twin KPVT, 3-wheeled armored personnel carrier, (I blinded you from what was)

[grafrozow]

In the same topic.

[grafrozow]

Congratulations to the DPRK! But with such weapons you can be more modest, yesterday. The tractor "Belarus" on the battlefield ???

[dustycat]

Quote: grafrozow

Congratulations to the DPRK! But with such weapons you can be more modest, yesterday. The tractor "Belarus" on the battlefield ???

Not Belarus, but Vladimir.
Two pots and air cooling.
A powerful military unit is ...
No wonder the "effective managers" buried him.
Explicitly ordering hosts from one American club.

[Trevis]

Beautiful parade.

[NOMADE]

Quote: grafrozow

Three years of war. Interesting, but there are orders on the back?

Wow! Brezhnev "resting") I wonder how much the body weight weighs ? After another 10 years, they will weigh on trousers, or there will be a new whale - a cloak

[NOMADE]

Quote: Marssik

Very similar to the old, good, Soviet ZSU 57, which were produced in a rather wooly year ....

Also, first I thought about ZSU 57, but it seems to be 57 mm. - do not pull (at least in the photo, I could be wrong).

[uhu189]

I'm wondering, but they don’t put dynamic protection on tanks from the principle, or did they dismantle it for the sake of the parade?

[Prapor Afonya]

The feeling, as if on the parade of the USSR in the 50s came, both in technique and in form !!!

[fartfraer]

and by ideology) now let us recall how strong the Union was at that time. if they had resources equal to at least half of the resources of the Russian Federation, there would be more “players” per world. I suspect that in this case the Russian Federation would not be very comfortable. although .... in short, "would" interfere)

[Vasily Terkin]

people walk from hunger to stagger, and this ok fat lobster and cognac orders from France .......... more parades suit. It would be better to feed everyone ...

[fartfraer]

strange, isn’t it true that the north hasn’t died out yet. There’s nothing to eat, all the money goes to Kim’s army and feeding, and the people haven’t died out yet ... either the Koreans came up with a cure for death, or you are a little mistaken.

[abrakadabre]

Everyone is talking so hard about the famine in Korea.
Please announce your sources on this issue?
State Department and the Times there are not to offer any reports.

[LM66]

It looks unusual when an officer from a tank waving flowers with enthusiasm

[smiths xnumx]

Well, what do we want North Korea has the weapon that it had, it pleasantly hit the new North Korean Pokpunho tank with two ATGMs, the North Korean version of the Cornet, the USSR also experimented with installing the Malyutka ATGMs on tanks (PT-76, T-55 , T-10M), however, things did not go further than experiments because of the technical imperfection of the Baby. It is worth noting the North Korean 30-mm ZSU based on Shilka, in the DPRK they took into account its short range and increased it by installing 2 30 guns. It looks like a ship AK-630. It is also worth noting an attempt by North Koreans to fully mechanize their artillery: self-propelled guns based on armored personnel carriers with D-20, D-30, and 130-mm SM-4-1, which allows it to escape from retaliation, as well as armored personnel carriers based on armored personnel carriers 80 with a 6x6 and 8x8 wheel arrangement, after all, it was not for nothing that the North Koreans bought 2000 BTR-32A from us in the early 80s, and a new tracked armored personnel carrier based on the M-1985 amphibious tank, also presented at the parade, though there is something with a gun not glued, so all cars are armed with a KPVT spark. It seems that the North Koreans are looking for a replacement for our BMP-1, 200 units, which together with the BRM-1K were received in the 80s, the BTR-60PB and their own VTT-323 BTR, created on the basis of the Chinese K-63. All infantry in the parade are armed with 5,45 mm type 88 assault rifles of their own production (AK-74 analogue) and type 98 (AK-74M analogue) and RPK-74, though the militiamen of the RKKG with type 68 9 analogue AKM assault rifles). And of course, the North Korean know-how to put MANPADS on everything that moves. And of course, the North Korean version of our S-300 or Chinese HQ-9-KN-06, UAV and missiles. Everything else unfortunately last century: T-55, T-62, ZSU with a pair of 57-mm guns analogue ZSU-57-2, S-75, S-125, Chinese MLRS type 63, S-60. Surprised though the armament of the RKKG ZiS-3 and M-30 and 85-mm anti-aircraft guns that could well shoot at the Americans during the Korean War, and not in the form of museum exhibits, but in service. Still surprised by the fact that the entire command staff moved on the "Gelendvagen", last year they still coexisted with the "UAZ". From the Air Force in the parade, I noticed Mi-26, and 6 Mi-8/17, 3 Il-76, all of which are available to the DPRK, and 4 MiG-23, it is also worth noting the North Korean MD-500 Defender with weapons, first demonstrated on this parade. If someone tells me the brand of missiles on them, I will be extremely grateful, therefore. that on Militariphotos there is only a picture with "Baby". Yours faithfully!

[Terrible ensign]

Very touching report! .. Patriotic people. Very tired of the life they live ...
I join the DPRK congratulations on the occasion of their Victory Day!
Very interesting technique. Particularly pleased with the "reincarnation of PT-76" and armored personnel carriers ...
Sometimes (quite rarely) it is possible to meet North Koreans on the streets of Yekaterinburg. Very neat, clean, but poorly dressed and necessarily a party badge on the lapel ... I promised myself that next time, if I meet, I will definitely give a bottle of cognac or viskar - just as a sign of appreciation and friendship ... of our peoples.

[awg75]

unreal old stuff ... and the chip with trailed katyushi to Belarus was simply killed on the spot !!!

[smiths xnumx]

Well, first of all, as you put it, “junk” is in service with the militia - the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Guard (RKKG), which is not personnel units that have other types of MLRS in service: the North Korean version of the BM-21 Grad-BM- 11, another North Korean version of Grad, made in the likeness of the Czechoslovak RM-70 or Belorussian BelGrad, with a spare missile package, and automatic reloading (this is why we reload manually after each salvo) and 240 mm 12 -barrel and 22-barrel installation MLRS own production, analogues of our "Hurricane".
Secondly, such a system has 18 barrels of 122 mm caliber (firing Grad missiles) and is easily suitable for partisan operations, as it is easily transported, including as you noticed with a tractor and it is easy enough to disguise it.
Thirdly, smile and remember the story of the "peaceful Soviet tractor."
Yours!

[LM66]

And what kind of nuclear suitcases the guys are holding on their knees. Portable nuclear bombs

[smiths xnumx]

I think that these are representatives of their strategic nuclear forces, it is indicative that they were transported by truck, and also, in my opinion, special forces and paratroopers were transported there. Yours faithfully

[roma-belij]

I watched on TV as they walked bouncing around, rolling with laughter)))

[Ammane]

And when he rode around he jumped?

[studentmati]

Quote: Ammane

And when he rode around he jumped?

You, Miroslav, do not be a fool. Everything is very serious here. Do not bring the Lord you are mistaken in the height of the jump !, immediately to the traitors and to the scaffold!

[Zhenya]

It seems to me that 50 abrams / leopards from all this technology will make dust.

[alone]

it doesn’t seem, but is absolutely correct, they don’t even have time to approach 3000m

[smiths xnumx]

If you could, then you did, don’t forget, the terrain is mountainous in North Korea, you won’t especially cut into tanks, and there are plenty of North Korean ATGMs (Fagot and DPRK Malyutka produce independently under license), there’s even its own copy of Cornet perhaps with Iranian help (we saw an Iranian general on the right hand side of Kim Jong-un, through two Korean military leaders) appeared, and to them also "Competitions", "Phalanxes" and "Bumblebees", the last two are a bit old, of course, well, nothing against BMP , Armored personnel carriers are still quite suitable. And this is not counting the unknown, but a very large number of RPG-7 (including with a tandem grenade), which in the DPRK is also produced under license, SPG-9M and BO B-10, B-11. In addition to all this, add the MT-12 Rapira, a 100-mm self-propelled VET of North Korean production (BS-3, D-44, D-48, ZiS-2, I do not take into account) Moreover, if all this is multiplied by a high combat the spirit of the North Koreans, the “Abrams” will have a very hard time. Here, by the way, is a photo of the marching KPA soldiers with RPG-7 from a tandem warhead. Yours faithfully!

[smiths xnumx]

However, I still forgot about 20 Mi-24s and about 80 North Korean Defender MD-500s with ATGMs demonstrated at this parade. Here is a photo

[Drosselmeyer]

You just forgot to indicate that they will run with RPGs under the constant, round-the-clock impact of the aircraft of the southerners and the USA. Wars have not been won by weapons for a long time, but by ideology. Why would a hungry, tattered, with a stick from the deep 50s a northerner die for Juche ideas, fighting with his Koreans like them? Just after the disorganization of management and political control as a result of the bombing, all this amusing North Korean army will begin to surrender en masse for a rice cooker. And if the southerners also pay extra for the surrender ...

[smiths xnumx]

Do not measure others by yourself. After the collapse of the USSR and the end of aid from China, the DPRK did not fall apart, it was not swallowed by South Korea, the ruling regime remained the same: Kim Il Sung was replaced by Kim Jong Il, who transferred the throne to Kim Chen Eun, and even created a nuclear bomb and launched a satellite into space. Then answer me, why should the prosperous South Korean, a successful clerk, put aside his iPad with the Internet, from which “Mr. Psi” sounds, the half-eaten hamburger and Coca-Cola, pick up an automatic rifle and climb to the North, under the bullets of his compatriots - communist fanatics. He loses much more. So, I am sure that the North Koreans will not scatter and surrender, but will courageously defend their homeland and the ruling regime in it.

[Drosselmeyer]

Do not make me laugh. No one will put off a hamburger and Coca-Cola. South Korea will have enough available army forces to tear down all this North Korean junk. The whole ideology of the north will fall apart like a rotten stump. About Iraq, Saddam was also told how his people would courageously defend their homeland and the ruling regime. However, all this rotten state collapsed in one week.

[smiths xnumx]

C'mon, they’ll directly win, not putting off a hamburger and Coca-Cola, and what they’ll pull the trigger with will be. And if South Korea has enough of its armed forces to defeat the DPRK, whom let me ask you are guarded by American troops with nuclear weapons in the South Caucasus. Moreover, the guys from these troops sometimes "hooligan"

Only five out of 100 crimes involving US troops in South Korea reach trial in the past three years.
Between 2010 and February 2013, 57 cases of 1 crimes committed by US military personnel in South Korea were transferred to the courts, which amounted to 027 percent, a public center called the Freedom of Information Center said. The community group called on law enforcement agencies to more actively bring to the end the cases of crimes and offenses.
"The criminal prosecution of perpetrators of crimes from the US military contingent is passive," said the representative of the group. “Recently, several American soldiers who were prosecuted for handcuffing three South Korean civilians were only deported to the United States without investigation.”

. But the South Koreans endure stoically why take offense at such nice guys. But Saddam was dumped, only after direct military aggression, and this after 11 years of sanctions, bombing, and direct bribery of Iraqi generals.

[Tuzik]

on the 10th photo everyone has such happy faces, it’s just a holiday!

[alone]

let them try to twist their face, send them to the quarry for at least 10 years)))))))))))))))))))))

[Kapdva]

These 50 abrams will not reach the battlefield! They are either thrown by Voroshilov kilograms, or they will gnaw through the tracks! I read about the actions of the special parts of the DPRK - still impressed! Therefore, I have no doubt in the heroism of this people! In 2005, being the commander of the Pskr, he detained 9 DPRK fishing vessels at once, crossed the border by chance - they got carried away, the squid was going well. There were no fishing special gear, each with 50-60 people with fishing rods. In general, almost the entire fishing farm was with wives. The only thing was that there were no children It was! And then there was a great start to the storm. I escorted to Zarubino. We behaved very dignified. The best impressions remained! And then more than once I had to deal with them! Poor but VERY proud (in a good way) people! I strongly support - The terrible ensign is an outstanding people!

[alone]

I have no doubt what you said. The people of North Korea are really normal people. Yes, poor and proud. they don’t ask anyone for anything. but for the sake of objectivity, their technique is a bit old

[Grand52]

Their energy would be in a peaceful direction ...

[Drosselmeyer]

Hmm. Everything is very bad with ancient technology. Northerners have no chance against southerners. Some commentators breed the myth of the "small but poor" holy believers in Juche, etc. It seems to me that this is a ostentatious myth and there is nothing more to oppose to the north to the south, either militarily or ideologically. Let us now allow free travel to South Korea and the whole North will rush there to earn money, and after a year no one will even remember the "respected" Kimakhs.

[REZMovec]

I would like to see you personally in the described situation. Will you go to defend Ukraine? On the old (no other) technique ?? I have great doubts about this. "Than to consider the gossips, to work, it is not better to turn on yourself, the godfather,"

[RoTTor]

The military parade is a special, highest kind of art, dying out almost all over the world. DPRK and PRC are unattainable here.
There is nothing to vilify, watch the parade and have fun.
The parade on Red Square, where last year there were 5 Mi-8s, in this six dozens of aircraft, in which ten times fewer people participated - in a miserable parody of uniforms (the accelerators on camouflage from soldiers !!!) are resting. It’s a shame to talk about other post-Soviet countries.

14.7.20103/XNUMX/XNUMX showed the next parade from Paris: well done, that they retained their historical form, but they are not able to walk with a parade step.

I recommend lovers of parade art to find in CETI and watch military parades in Chile.

North Korea - respect and sincere respect !!!

[Seraph]

Gasoline and diesel do not spare. Techniques are immeasurable. The people are ideologically savvy. No wonder the southerners, the United States, and the Japanese are afraid of them, and the Chinese regularly send their second parties to the parades. We also have to make friends again - instead of muddy Egypt, send wheat to Pyongyang

[soldier's grandson]

Quote: grafrozow

Three years of war. Interesting, but there are orders on the back?

to see our burdened Cossacks, they will die with envy

[Radoslav]

The DPRK troops are an indestructible force and power. Hooray comrades!

[albert]

Koreans are pretty, but the technology is a bit old. Unless the missiles look impressive.

[fartfraer]

correctly noticed. by the way, at 42 msd (in Chechnya) tanks are 62-ki. also not new. and the entire contract division)) are “rex” alone) but there’s just something “thieves” tricked out tanks are based in the suburbs .. and driven on they are conscripts (including) with an annual service life. how to explain?

[alone]

for warfare in the mountains, the T-54 \ 55 and T-62 tanks are just more effective

[fartfraer]

what are you? these tanks drove into the "alpine" training ground once and then from overclocking.

[alone]

Do you think the abrams will rise there the first time?)))

[fartfraer]

But what have the abrams to do with it?

[alone]

Sorry for not noticing your question and am only responding now. Our troops mainly used the T-55 and T-62 tanks in the mountains of Afghanistan, although the T-72 and T-80.62nd and 55th were much easier and more maneuverable than Abrams. read a little higher comments forum users and you will understand what's what

[smart ass]

I don’t understand the current from where the commanders have so many medals ??? For courage in the parade?

[alone]

Well, where did Brezhnev have 4 medals of the hero of the Soviet Union?)))

[GUSAR]

A parade of junk that will burn out in the first 2 days, and the air in which case will certainly not be beyond North Korea ...

[smiths xnumx]

DPRK issues itself or under licenses
Ground troops
Pistols: type 64 (copy of the Browning M1900, part with a silencer, used by special forces), type 68 (copy of the TT), Pektusan (copy of ChZ-75), the PM is also in service.
The submachine guns in service with the Special Forces consists of the Czech Scorpion, Chinese and Korean copies of the PPSh and PPS type 49 and type 43 are transferred to the RCSC
Automatic machines: type 58 (copy of AK-47) - transferred to the RKKG, type 68 (copy of AKM), type 88 (copy of AK-74), type 98 (copy of AK-74M), some of the machines are equipped with early modifications (type 58, type 68) is equipped for firing grenades put on the barrel, following the example of the Polish PMK DGN-60 and the Yugoslav Outpost M-70; some of the new submachine guns have GP-25 Bonfire grenade launchers unknown purchased in Russia or locally made. The special forces use a Chinese copy of the American M-16 rifle type CQ M-311. For ceremonial purposes and in the RKKG, a North Korean copy of the SKS-type 63 self-loading carbine is used.
Sniper rifles: "Dzhegenbochon" - a copy of the Yugoslav Zastava M-76, caliber 7,62x54. Also used are the SVD, and its Chinese copy of the Type-79/85, as well as the Mosin rifle with an optical sight (most likely transferred to the RCCH)
Machine guns: type 62 (a copy of the RPD) - transferred to the RKKG, type 73 (own development based on the BREN and PKM). Also used RPK-74, unknown locally produced or purchased in Russia / USSR, RPK, PK, SGM (partially transferred to the RCSC), DShK and its Chinese copy type 59, NSV-12,7 "Utes". In kachechsva tank anti-aircraft machine gun for armament of armored vehicles, used CPV. The RKKG are armed with RP-46 and PDM.
North Korean machine gun type 73 in the manner of "honorary model." It is "silver plated" and has carved wooden parts of the handle and butt.

[smiths xnumx]

Grenade launchers and anti-tank weapons
AGS-17 "Flame", unknown purchased in the USSR or its Chinese copy.
Flamethrowers: Soviet LPO-50, ROKS-3, TPO-50M, FOG-2. Recently appeared and demonstrated at RPO-A parades "Bumblebee", from where it is not known, Russia claims to not sell.
RPG-2, produced under license in the DPRK, there is also a Chinese copy of type 56. It is in service with the RKKG.
RPG-7, probably produced under license, there is also a Chinese copy of type 69. A tandem warhead was created for the grenade launcher.
Recoilless guns: SPG-9M, B-10, there is a Chinese copy of type 65, B-11
Anti-tank guns: 85-mm D-44, D-48, 100-mm BS-3 and MT-12 Rapier, there is an early version of the T-12. The RKKG is armed with a 45-mm M-42, 57-mm ZiS-2, 76-mm ZiS-3.
The promised photo of North Korean soldiers with an RPG-7 with a tandem warhead:

[smiths xnumx]

ATGM:
9K15 "Bumblebee" - self-propelled installed on a cross-country vehicle "Synry 4.15" (copy of GAZ-69)
"Phalanx" - installed on helicopters Z-5 (North Korean copy of Mi-4), Mi-8/17, Mi-24. It can also be installed on BM 9P148
"Baby" - the most common ATGM, released in the DPRK under a license called "Susong-po", also has a Chinese copy of the HJ-73. It is used, both in a portable version, and is installed on the North Korean light tank M-1985, tracked armored personnel carrier VTT-323, on the basis of which the BM PTRK type 85, BMP-1 was created. Also used on helicopters Mi-2, MD-500 Defender, Z-5 (North Korean copy of Mi-4), Mi-8/17.
9K111 "Bassoon", issued in North Korea under license. There is also a modernized version of "Factoria." It is used both in a portable version and is installed on a North Korean wheeled BRDM M-1992.
"Competition". It is used both in a portable version and is installed on BM 9P148 based on BRDM-2.
The Cornet is the root designation for Bulsae-3, first demonstrated at this parade. Two launchers are installed above the gun mask of the most modern North Korean MBT "Songun-915" ("Seon'gun-915"). Perhaps delivered from Iran, where a copy of the Kornet anti-tank system is produced - "Dehlaviyeh"
Self-propelled anti-tank guns:
SU-100- in the mobilization reserve for storage.
A cannon fighter of tanks on the chassis of the tracked armored personnel carrier VTT-323: an 85-mm gun D-44 or D-48 is installed in the upper compartment of the tracked armored personnel carrier VTT-323.
Cannon tank destroyer A 100 mm cannon, probably the Rapier, is installed in a closed turret on the Juche-po chassis, an elongated modified chassis of the licensed ATS-59. Here is his picture. If anyone is interested, I’m ready to continue tomorrow. Yours faithfully!

[fluke]

Why do we need a system that is not able to feed its own population. The people do not eat up, often starving and dying of hunger, there are no modern medicines and there will not be any, there is no electricity in the province in the houses, there is no gas, everything is wood.
Not to mention the simple basic benefits of civilization, which we consider to be self-evident. There are no household chemicals, no Internet, no personal vehicles, and so on. There is nothing besides propaganda zombies and poverty.
For that, nuclear weapons are being developed, tanks are built and a huge amount of weapons produced. But for what? To protect your own poverty and suffering? Although, why, the chubby “leader” obviously eats well, studied in Switzerland, does not need anything - that’s why all these weapons are for.
With all this, it is very unfortunate that the united Korean people are so divided. It just should not be, Koreans must live together in a united Korea. Sad and sad ...

[fartfraer]

let's compare with the Russian Federation on points?
1- "electricity in the province is not in the houses, there is no gas, everything is wood." - in our province we have gas not in all the villages, I live in the city (Tomsk) and I have a house with stove heating (firewood) and I'm not the only one )) and the vast majority of villages are also all wood burning.
2- “Apart from the zombie-populated population and poverty there is nothing.” - we have enough poverty.
3- "There is no household chemicals, no Internet, no personal vehicles, and so on", we undoubtedly have personal vehicles, but the public "is limping on both legs." I don’t know how it is with you, and I went to study on water. due to the fact that he calculated the cost of general transport that has risen in price. cheaper (really cheaper, but not for the "red word") to drive your car. Internet ... are you already unable to live without it? far from essential goods .I would gladly change the Internet to Soviet GOST grocery (for example). Household chemicals - wash with ash and brush your tooth fingers or do you still have some powders, pastes, soap? I would like to clarify this question with you, as an expert.
4- "Although, why, the chubby" leader "obviously eats well, studied in Switzerland, doesn’t need anything - that’s why all these weapons are for." - and we have children of Duma, government officials, etc. don’t study abroad? By the way, I’ll give you a hackneyed example — Generals Troshev (sorry, died) and Shamanov are not the worst people. do you think they “ate” our army? It’s not a true statement, as it seems to me. to other countries, guarantee sovereignty. by the way, why do you think Russia’s weapons are likely to protect Abramovich’s yacht, Chelsea club, Cypriot avshory?
5- "With all this, it is very unfortunate that a single Korean people is so divided. It simply should not be, Koreans should live together in a single Korea," recall about compatriots in Asian countries, the Baltic states?
and finally, “People don’t eat up, often starving and dying of hunger,” who then lives there? if people die of hunger (for more than a dozen years)?

[fartfraer]

http://golos.gorod.tomsk.ru/index-1365703539.php
the link is about the slightly different DPRK, about which we are intensively shouting that it is starving and dying. For objectivity, we look at comments (by reference), there are still a lot of links (both "for" and "against"), we compare and think. for attention

[alone]

Well, even if we assume that what exists on the link throughout North Korea, it’s not clear in double why the Korean leadership receives food aid from the Americans in exchange for a moratorium on nuclear tests. In a country where everything is so smooth, they would probably spit on the threats of America and would do what they wanted.

[fartfraer]

“Well, even if we assume that what exists on the link throughout North Korea, it’s not clear in double why the Korean leadership receives food aid from the Americans in exchange for a moratorium on nuclear tests. In a country where everything is so smooth,” you may not be began to be interested in this issue for a long time. a few years ago, the states pressed on the DPRK to stop developing nuclear technologies, building nuclear power plants, etc. in response, the northerners simply said that industry was developing, etc. energy was needed. there were few resources, so we were building nuclear power plants . don’t want a nuclear power plant in the DPRK-sell us fuel oil for plants at such a price that the cost of energy does not exceed the cost of energy from nuclear power plants. and all, the states "went out", introduced another embargo. did you understand what I wanted to tell you? -We will live as we want and build what we want on our territory, if someone is not happy with something, give us what we need from our stocks. Something like this.

[alone]

Well, comparing North Korea and Russia somehow does not work out in my mind. if you’re not happy with something, you can at least pour out your soul. and then someone let them try to express their discontent, they will immediately destroy him as an agent of world imperialism)) when Kim Jong-un has a baby, he makes a royal gift to every Korean child -1kg of chocolates. If I honestly did not know that 1kg of chocolates is a royal gift, and even a delicacy !!

[fartfraer]

Yes, yes, and if the DPRK team loses football to international competitions, then they shoot everyone from the coach to the grandson of the cousin of the team massage therapist.
"honestly didn’t know that 1kg of chocolates is a royal gift, and even a delicacy !!" - indeed, the gift is far from royal .. so is a gift for yourself. it’s another thing in the whole other world! grandson will be born? suppose without stint, the Russian Federation is much richer in resources, money, etc. than the DPRK

[fartfraer]

By the way, what is wrong in my comparison of the Russian Federation and the DPRK? We are drowned with firewood and the poor and we have, the president eats better than the kindergarten teacher ... what is wrong in comparison? argue if you have something to say

[alone]

but I saw how these children looked at this gift! there was a feeling that they had not touched this for a long time and Russia is still not North Korea. according to the possibilities. if in the backwoods such a life means the authorities are to blame. with such good that you have, they should bathe in gold

[eplewke]

Well done Koreans, but the technology is a junk ... But they are proud of their country, already for this you can respect ...

[alone]

proud of their homeland - consider that this is already half the victory !!

[GUSAR]

Not for those who like North Korea, let them go there and live there, only not as guests, but as locals ... Yes, come take off Juche’s idea ...

[KEKS44]

The ugly state. There is nothing to eat, but they are going to fight with someone. Who needs them, miserable!

[ko88]

all right all right.