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Hearings on the possibility of wars over resources in Central Asia were held in the US Congress

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A congressional committee of the US held a July 25 hearing on the theme “the appearance of a threat to a resource warrior” in Central Asia. But it was not possible to establish what the threat is and whether it exists at all.


Hearings on the possibility of wars over resources in Central Asia were held in the US Congress


The hearings were held by the House Subcommittee on Europe, Eurasia and Emerging Threats (House Subcommittee on Europe, Eurasia, and Emerging Threats) chaired by Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, who brought his idiosyncratic beliefs about the region into the work of the subcommittee since appointed him head earlier this year.

In his opening speech, Rohrabacher made a grim warning that “the growing demand in world markets for mineral and energy resources is causing fierce economic competition, which can lead to a counterproductive conflict. ... In a world where one side can acquire resources for development only by taking it away from the other, conflicts are supposed to appear in the beginning. When new resources are opened, as is happening in Central Asia, there are fears that there will not be enough of them all, and so the conflict is born. ” However, pointing out that China and India are developing rapidly and need resources, he did not explain how this could lead to a war in Central Asia.

The expert speaking at the hearings (there was no one from the US government) politely pointed out that although there are resources in Central Asia and various parties are trying to get access to them, there are no signs of any armed conflicts. “There is indeed competition for resources in Central Asia, as elsewhere in the world,” said Ed Chow, an energy specialist at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (Center for Strategic and International Studies), adding that “for all respect for the Subcommittee, the concept of resource wars is often exaggerated ”(see full report here). Chou mentioned that he was an adviser to the US State Department on the TAPI gas pipeline project (Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India).

Another expert, Neil Brown, who works for the Marshall Fund “Germany-USA” (German Marshall Fund of the United States), expressed the opinion that “the desire to gain control over the territories because of the resources there is manifested throughout the world, but this trend often takes place within countries and not between countries. ... Fortunately, in Central Asia it is relatively quiet on this front ”(see the full report here).

The above does not mean that conflicts over resources in Central Asia are impossible. Neil Brown mentioned the possibility of a conflict in the Caspian. “The issue of dividing the Caspian-rich seabed with energy resources sometimes leads to unnecessary tension between the countries of the region. In particular, Russia objects to the Trans-Caspian gas pipeline project, which would allow Turkmenistan to diversify gas export routes by opening a “window to Europe” bypassing Russia, ”he said.

Ed Chou, in turn, pointed to the fact that tensions in the region are most often caused by another resource, water. “In my opinion, conflicts in Central Asia are most likely to flare up for control over water, not oil and gas resources,” he said at the hearing.

Unfortunately, much of the attention of the US government towards the region is focused on armed conflict. Here are the topics of the previous hearings in the Subcommittee on Europe, Eurasia and Emerging Threats during the current session: “Islamic extremism in Chechnya: a threat to US security?”, “The rapid political and economic advance of China in Central Asia” and “Threats of militant Islamism in Eurasia ". All of these topics are no doubt important. But how much more likely is it that they will lead to conflicts in the region, and not, say, weak political regimes under the leadership of aging, corrupt and / or corrupt dictators?
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  1. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 28 July 2013 05: 26 New
    26
    After Asia, I think Siberia will be discussed .. That’s arrogance!
    1. Denin
      Denin 28 July 2013 05: 48 New
      19
      This is Asia. If it is called Siberia, then recognize the right of the Russian Federation to this territory, and if Asia - then for the general people it seems to be just the territory of the globe.
    2. Very old
      Very old 28 July 2013 07: 26 New
      +7
      They have been discussing for a long time (Rice, the London deceased and others), they have little discussion, they SHARE that very skin.
    3. krasin
      krasin 28 July 2013 09: 18 New
      +9
      A.P. Africa is the last region where it is relatively safe to provide resources for difficult times. And they have already come. Literally quite recently, from a dozen years ago, Russia was the candidate N1 for plundering resources. Odyn, the secretary of bros, Mad (flax) am Broshkina-Albright, said: “It is not fair when such a rich territory as Siberia belongs to only one Russia, and not to all mankind.” The world came close to a hydrocarbon redistribution. The strong will plunder the weak, purely from a humanitarian point of view, for the rational use of energy resources. For this, whole countries can be destroyed. USA on the path to its own survival.
    4. Constantine
      Constantine 28 July 2013 09: 26 New
      17
      Quote: MIKHAN
      After Asia, I think Siberia will be discussed .. That’s arrogance!


      After Asia, they will not discuss anything. Asia is not the Middle East. They will be buried there. smile
    5. Tersky
      Tersky 28 July 2013 10: 51 New
      +9
      Quote: MIKHAN
      After Asia, I think Siberia will be discussed .. That’s arrogance!

      Siberia will have de @ democrats in the future, but here - Neil Brown mentioned the possibility of a conflict in the Caspian. "The issue of dividing the energy-rich bottom of the Caspian Sea sometimes leads to unnecessary tension between the countries of the region" it remains to ask the question of who and why leads to this tension, the answer will not surprise anyone - "Bah ... !!! all familiar faces." It is not for nothing that Russia has recently been driving new forces into the Southern Military District and the Caspian Flotilla.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 28 July 2013 11: 29 New
        +4
        Quote: Tersky
        It is not for nothing that recently Russia has been driving novies into SEE and the Caspian flotilla.

        This is precisely what worries the United States. Hi Vit drinks
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 28 July 2013 16: 07 New
          +5
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          This is precisely what worries the United States.

          Sasha again hi ! Judging by their ambitions, however, restless people. negative ..very restless negative
          1. yurii p
            yurii p 29 July 2013 12: 44 New
            0
            this is when the louse runs in the blood, then America does not know what to scratch the ass or the head, although it is not a fact that they adequately determine where what.
        2. Lavr75
          Lavr75 29 July 2013 03: 39 New
          +1
          "take away and divide everything" - Sharikov, "Dog's Heart",
          the same level of thinking and americos.
          1. pav-pon1972
            pav-pon1972 29 July 2013 08: 49 New
            +1
            "take away and divide everything" - Sharikov, "Dog's Heart",
            the same level of thinking and americos.

            Rather, it will be: SELL, and even better on credit, and even at huge interest ... :))
    6. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 July 2013 11: 28 New
      +4
      Quote: MIKHAN
      After Asia, I think Siberia will be discussed.

      Discussion will fall off!
    7. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 28 July 2013 12: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      After Asia, I think Siberia will be discussed .. That’s arrogance!


      After Asia, if they have the intelligence to go there, they will fight the second war of independence in their territory ... and it is not a fact that they will win.
    8. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 28 July 2013 15: 33 New
      +6
      I propose at the next State Duma meeting to discuss the equitable distribution of oil revenues in Texas and Alaska.
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    10. starshina78
      starshina78 28 July 2013 19: 29 New
      +3
      The Americans are always making any plans, then they planned to bomb the USSR with atomic bombs, then they made plans to invade the USSR, then strikes on Russia, then Syria, but in fact, they are warriors, then they are awful. Here at a distance throw "Tomahawks" - they can, but in close combat weaklings! Yes, and they will not dare to engage in major military operations, they looked around. Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya - so you can go around the world! Faster !
    11. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 28 July 2013 21: 57 New
      +3
      They already discussed, Kondi openly and plainly said that the reserves of Siberia cannot belong to one state that received them by chance.
    12. AVV
      AVV 28 July 2013 22: 44 New
      +3
      Our State Duma needs to discuss Alaska, and what to do about it! Asymmetric discussion !!! Let's see what kind of reaction will be?
  2. Mitek
    Mitek 28 July 2013 05: 31 New
    10
    Well, if there are resources in Central Asia, then there is no democracy there!
  3. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 28 July 2013 05: 46 New
    0
    Oh, this Dana RohrabHer ... He frequented something with abstruse reports. By the way, not a relative of Dana International? And that would be a duet ...
    1. Denin
      Denin 28 July 2013 05: 50 New
      +6
      If memory serves, then this Dana somehow during the conflict 08.08.08 accused Saakashvili of attacking South Ossetia.
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 28 July 2013 05: 52 New
        +6
        Quote: Denin
        If memory serves, then this Dana somehow during the conflict 08.08.08 accused Saakashvili of attacking South Ossetia.

        Well, for this he (and you) + hi
  4. Vovka L.
    Vovka L. 28 July 2013 05: 57 New
    +5
    "In my opinion, conflicts in Central Asia are most likely to erupt over control of water, not oil and gas resources."

    Well, duck have been talking about this in our country for about 10 years, is it really that the water supply system will soon be pulled to Asia.
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 28 July 2013 06: 11 New
      +9
      Quote: Vovka L.
      "In my opinion, conflicts in Central Asia are most likely to erupt over control of water, not oil and gas resources."

      Well, duck have been talking about this in our country for about 10 years, is it really that the water supply system will soon be pulled to Asia.

      China increased water withdrawal from the Black Irtysh by 5 times. For the first time in many years, the flood level was so low. Many fry were killed. Russia and Kazakhstan want to attract the international community to this problem. Only China is on the drum. And the community too ...
      1. Vovka L.
        Vovka L. 28 July 2013 06: 17 New
        -2
        Duck, in my opinion, has nothing to do with Russia? It seems that Kazakhstan does not have bad trade with China, let it solve the issue.
        1. sergo0000
          sergo0000 28 July 2013 19: 47 New
          +4
          Quote: Vovka L.
          Duck, in my opinion, has nothing to do with Russia? It seems that Kazakhstan does not have bad trade with China, let it solve the issue.


          1 Irtysh - Vi
          kipedia
          Irtysh (Black Irtysh, Ertsisykhe, Kaz. Ertis, Chinese. 额尔齐斯河 - É'ěrqísī hé) is a river in China, Kazakhstan and Russia, left, the main tributary of the Ob. The length of the Irtysh is 4248 km, which exceeds the length of the Ob itself.
          Do you think that this does not concern us !? belay I think differently!
  5. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 28 July 2013 06: 05 New
    13
    Conflicts over resources are inevitable. And the Americans are not discussing them for the first time at different levels. And they are preparing for them, including in terms of preparing the military structure. And we have just begun to move, and then in terms of the Arctic. Central Asia has almost been missed. Siberia is actually standing naked - come and take it. And they will take it. Wishing - herd.
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  6. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 28 July 2013 06: 44 New
    +5
    California Congressman Republican Dana Rohrabacher from 1981 to 1988 was a speechwriter for US President Ronald Reagan. It was he who invented and put into the mouth of Reagan the definition of the Soviet Union as an “evil empire”.
    Dana Rorabacher: Now a new world is being created, everything is changing. In the old world, Russians were our enemies, they carried the threat of communism. The soviets under communism were an "evil empire," as President Reagan said ...
    Arkady Dubnov: More precisely, you said that ...Dana Rorabacher (smiles broadly and shrugs hands): In any case, and this is the most important thing, Russia and the Russians are our largest allies today, and the main potential enemy for us is China, because there is no democratization.
    We hope that the money we will pay for Russian oil will go towards improving the lives of Russians and developing democracy. After September 11, the vision of Russia as our great friend firmly stuck in the head of the Americans. The Russians have a very kind heart, and now they know that in America.
    During the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, Rohrabacher wrote reports while being in the ranks of the Mujahideen (Rohrabacher is on the far right)
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 28 July 2013 11: 08 New
      +6
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      It was he who invented and put into the mouth of Reagan the definition of the Soviet Union as an “evil empire”.

      Alex, hi ! Excerpt from his interview after a visit by the delegation of Russia:“I can’t imagine anyone’s views besides my own, and the leaders of my party are skeptical of what I’m saying - but many Republican congressmen understand that in the future China will be a very strong potential adversary to the United States and other countries, including Russia. And for now, radical Islam is getting close to our throats. In Russia, militants who preach radical Islam kill people - and in the United States, terrorist attacks by radical Muslims also take place. In these areas, we must work together. I think the benefits of working together are superior to the mutual distrust of the past - if someone is ready to take a step forward and say, “Let's get down to business!” - and this is exactly what I'm trying to do. ” For the sake of another "case" he easily repainted ... In Russia, there is a common noun for such people, a shape-shifter ...
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 28 July 2013 11: 38 New
        +4
        Quote: Tersky
        ... In Russia, for such there is a common noun-changeling ...
        An experienced politician, a mother-in-law ... yesterday he said one thing, today another thing --- it means tomorrow he’ll come up with a third one. Because of people like him, my country, after a severe ruin, began to forge a nuclear shield, but they don’t understand another language. Insolent Yankees request Z. He loves to be photographed laughing hi
  7. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 28 July 2013 08: 09 New
    +4
    They made a mess in the Middle East, it's time to "move" closer to Russia ... am
    1. alone
      alone 28 July 2013 10: 04 New
      +4
      as planned
  8. Grenz
    Grenz 28 July 2013 09: 02 New
    +2
    At one time Zadornov deduced a "supposedly playful" formula for the US behavior in solving this issue: "YOU HAVE OIL - THEN WE ARE GOING TO YOU!" Now this is no longer a joke.
    All countries where, after their capture, minerals become cent (the example of Iraq with its now cheap oil for Americans) is an object for inclusion in the list of violations of democratic principles.
    1. alone
      alone 28 July 2013 10: 03 New
      +3
      Do you know why the Americans are in no hurry about Syria? There isn’t so much oil)))
  9. Circle
    Circle 28 July 2013 09: 27 New
    +3
    "Russia and China are preparing for a world war," says journalist Stephen Landman in his article for The People's Voice. At the same time, both countries want peace, but the threat posed by the United States forces them to strengthen their defensive positions. "
    http://inotv.rt.com/2013-07-27/Politika-SSHA-vinuzhdaet-Rossiyu-i (статья полностью)
  10. knn54
    knn54 28 July 2013 09: 44 New
    +3
    Guys from CA - live together. Tajiks to Uzbeks water, Uzbeks to Tajiks gas. Stop selling RESOURCES for green candy wrappers.
    1. alone
      alone 28 July 2013 10: 00 New
      +6
      too ambitious local kings sit in Central Asia. and where ambition can stir up the water and fish.
  11. alone
    alone 28 July 2013 10: 02 New
    +5
    the fact that the amers aimed their views on Central Asia is quite clear. Russia is again being drawn into the Cold War and the arms race. It's like two, two, four.
  12. My address
    My address 28 July 2013 10: 14 New
    +4
    Well, right on the grandfather Krylov: "It's your fault that I want to eat." Trivial, but true.
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 28 July 2013 10: 15 New
    +5
    It's time to pay attention to the fact that the Americans are producing too much oil in the Gulf of Mexico and with democracy in the United States itself is not quite order. Isn't it time to "democratize" the United States again?
    And then they began to predict wars for resources in Asia ......... they would figure it out for themselves!
  14. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 28 July 2013 10: 33 New
    +2
    damn ... not a word about Alaska and Canada ... and there are no less reserves .... than either
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 July 2013 11: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: Grigorich 1962
      damn ... not a word about Alaska and Canada ... and there are not less reserves

      Well, everything is under control there, but uncontrolled reserves cause the USA a feeling of irritation hi
      1. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac 28 July 2013 17: 14 New
        0
        and how they themselves will take the resource (Alaska) and what the "cousins" will say if they are taken away from them (Canada - the head of state - the English queen)
    2. alone
      alone 28 July 2013 11: 31 New
      +2
      they don’t touch their stocks in principle, they keep strictly !! why spend it, if you can buy from Arabs and from everyone for green !!
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 28 July 2013 21: 59 New
        +1
        Notice not just green, but worthless paper.
  15. klyka1960
    klyka1960 28 July 2013 10: 51 New
    +4
    No dress, create!
  16. Essenger
    28 July 2013 12: 55 New
    +7
    I read the article, I decided to post it. What do you think?
  17. homosum20
    homosum20 28 July 2013 13: 06 New
    +4
    In my opinion, since the hearings are organized, someone organized it. And for the organizers, this question exists. In addition, the state body acts on the basis of planning its activities - which means that ways to resolve the issue are being developed. the first stage - the notification of society about the problem - took place. They will look for a solution.
    By the way, water in the states is also not without problems. 150 years ago there was not a single desert on its territory. Today there are already 3 of them. Plus, the HYDRA technology requires clean water for each well (one-time) unmeasured.
    Today, there is one country that has both shale gas-bearing rocks and sufficient water reserves for their development. It's Russia. (By the way, an attempt to develop this method of production in Ukraine will end in an ecological catastrophe due, first of all, to the lack of excess of clean water).
    Well, then let's try to guess whose resources Amers mouth open.
    And by the way - a warrior in Iraq and Libya and Syria - this is, first of all, a war for resources.
  18. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 28 July 2013 14: 24 New
    +6
    The Americans have finally come to believe that they are the global "leader" of the Earth. One gets the impression that more and more crazy "Sers" and Mrs. are appearing in the leading spheres of this state. Dictatorial, mentoring tone American politicians are already tired of everything. Forgetting that many traitors to Russia who sold state secrets to overseas owners settled in the USA, they brazenly demand the surrender of their traitor Snowden. Unprincipled, rudeness is the way American politicians work in the international arena. Now they are solving the issues of "protection" of resources in regions located many thousands of kilometers from the United States. Okay, let them indulge their pride. As V.S. Vysotsky said: well crazy what take ...?
  19. Betahon
    Betahon 28 July 2013 15: 38 New
    +2
    ... "These are the topics of previous hearings in the Subcommittee on Europe, Eurasia and Emerging Threats during the current session:" Islamist Extremism in Chechnya: A Threat to US Security? "... Perhaps initiate a debate in the State Duma Subcommittee on US Issues : "Strengthening the political moronization of the United States and ways to neutralize it"? ....
  20. Essenger
    28 July 2013 16: 40 New
    +6
    By the way, there is such a theory. The West bombed Libya primarily due to the fact that Gaddafi solved the water problem. This project was called "the eighth wonder of the world". Who knows, maybe it's true.
  21. kmike
    kmike 28 July 2013 16: 56 New
    +5
    They began to discuss From Central Asia, in the future to spread to Russia, Mrs. Clinton has already expressed that it is unfair that so many natural resources belong to one country, but those who want to receive these resources will receive a hole from a donut, and this hole will be in the forehead.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 28 July 2013 19: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: kmike
      get a donut hole, and this hole will be in the forehead.

      Not bad caliber, not bad ...
    2. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 29 July 2013 16: 46 New
      0
      kmike
      They began to discuss From Central Asia, in the future to spread to Russia, Mrs. Clinton has already expressed that it is unfair that so many natural resources belong to one country, but those who want to receive these resources will receive a hole from a donut, and this hole will be in the forehead.


      To Russia, penguins have short arms.
      Clintonig would do well to know that yusovtsy for 200 years predatory in a savage way wasted on tin cans on wheels and stuff just as unnecessary junk spent the richest mineral resource base of the whole continent, and now they are engaged in the robbery of weak countries that are not able to defend themselves.
      30 years ago, the Yankees could not behave so brazenly, the weak had a defender of the USSR.
  22. Ustian
    Ustian 28 July 2013 19: 17 New
    +3
    politely indicated that although there are resources in Central Asia and various parties are trying to access them, there are no signs of any armed conflicts.

    But how would they like it. And they are actively stirring up in this direction.
  23. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 28 July 2013 20: 24 New
    +2
    Rohrabacher issued a grim warning that “the growing demand in the global markets for mineral and energy resources is causing fierce economic competition, which could lead to a counterproductive conflict. ... In a world where one side can acquire resources for development, only by taking it from the other, conflicts are initially supposed to appear. When new resources are discovered, as is happening in Central Asia, there are fears that they will not be enough for everyone, and so the conflict arises

    American corpse eaters began to fuss, sensed the prey and are afraid not to be in time for sharing, the resource owners themselves will eat all the tasty.
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 29 July 2013 10: 13 New
      0
      bring the ideological platform under their cannibalism ........
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  25. Semurg
    Semurg 28 July 2013 21: 10 New
    +3
    At the dawn of independence, almost all significant assets in hydrocarbon deposits went to Western companies for little money, after 10-20 years of ownership, they sell these assets to China or Kazakhstan for good money, tens or hundreds of times higher. Now all transport flows of hydrocarbons are reoriented from west to east to China (oil and gas pipelines to China are being built at a record pace and the capacity of those built is increasing) USA, Europe, Russia are taking second roles China is becoming the main partner who has increased hydrocarbon imports from the region from zero to tens of millions of tons in 10-15 years and the pace is increasing. they insure themselves against the blockade of offshore hydrocarbon deliveries by pipe deliveries from Middle Asia and Russia, and the United States understands this and will try to cut off these supplies in due time, and China will prevent this, here I think the conflict over the resources of Middle Asia will begin.
  26. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 29 July 2013 01: 37 New
    0
    “In my opinion, conflicts in Central Asia are most likely to erupt over control of water rather than oil and gas resources.” Ed Chow

    Karimov is already threatening the Tajiks and Kyrgyz with a war over the construction of the Rogun hydroelectric station, which will further reduce the flow of water to the territory of his khanate. A large war is inevitable, it will help solve the problem of overpopulation in the region. laughing
    1. alone
      alone 29 July 2013 12: 58 New
      +1
      Karimov not. Tajiks and Kyrgyz in the Odkb. attack them will receive on the head from Russia.
  27. ZU-23
    ZU-23 29 July 2013 08: 07 New
    0
    For a long time there has been a conversation, the amers want China to push their foreheads with India, now all such nonsense begins, plus the amers begin to work with India and sell them arms. In short, we look further.
    1. Knizhnik
      Knizhnik 29 July 2013 09: 33 New
      +1
      The US economy exists due to the exhaustion of resources from other countries and they need more and more. Naturally, experts think about where to suck in the future and whom to declare an enemy of democracy and human rights. And China has a big bill to the USA, and there is a danger of settling debts like Sarkozy and Gaddafi
  28. Begemot
    Begemot 29 July 2013 12: 07 New
    0
    The Americans will win anyway. They create their military power by printing candy wrappers, as much as necessary, they will print as much, while others are forced to earn money in order to spend it on defense, thereby slowing down their development and overloading the economy, moreover, weapons have the peculiarity of aging morally and physically and each new round of rearmament costs more and more, thus, the Americans do not allow others to develop in order to compete with them. There are only two countries, Russia and China, that can be challenged. That is why these two also suffer from "the lack of democracy and human rights", support non-democratic regimes, etc., etc., because these are not assholes like Germany, Britain or Japan. In addition, Russia has a lot of things that I really want to take for free, but in order to have every right to say to them, "But fuck you, for free!" you must have a strong army.
  29. alone
    alone 29 July 2013 12: 53 New
    +1
    to be honest, I wouldn’t trust China completely. There is a cultural expansion of the Chinese to Russia. Who will guarantee that this does not happen without the knowledge of the Chinese authorities. The United States needs your resources, and the Chinese have your territories, even in times of union they are open about it they said. and about a strong army, I agree, a country as large as Russia must have a strong army
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 29 July 2013 16: 34 New
      0
      Quote: lonely
      to be honest, I wouldn’t trust China completely. There is a cultural expansion of the Chinese to Russia. Who will guarantee that this does not happen without the knowledge of the Chinese authorities. The United States needs your resources, and the Chinese have your territories, even in times of union they are open about it they said. and about a strong army, I agree, a country as large as Russia must have a strong army


      Not ccy, a lonely friend, the Chinese in their entire history have never seriously fought anyone and now they are not ready for this yet. Maybe years through 100-200 something can.
      For 5000 years they have not even overcome Khingan, what are our territories to them? 4 / 5 of Siberia is not suitable for life, and the narrow strip mastered by the Russians in China will not solve the problems, but will only aggravate them.
      From the east of China is the sea, and from the west and north are impassable and impassable mountains and deserts, and the impassable the path, the less rogues are on it.
      1. alone
        alone 29 July 2013 22: 07 New
        +1
        they do not fight. they are not fools. they are culturally expanding foreign territories. Recently, I was in the North Caucasus in the Krasnodar Territory. So the Chinese were leased huge lands for greenhouses. They grow tomatoes there. It was so terrible there. So, damn, they know that they were chemical there, they overwhelmed the whole market of Krasnodar with these unfortunate tomatoes so that the local farmers almost cried into the vest for everyone passing by. In Adygea the same thing. Here they already got to. and you're talking about Siberia))))
  30. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 29 July 2013 14: 55 New
    0
    A lot of what they would like but the Wishlist has not grown. In general, their goal is simple: where else to spoil! Regarding Siberia: these cow chases have long been choked with saliva, only if they fight, choked with blood and their own shit!