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The Russians are afraid of the influx of migrants. Australian Immigration Solution

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Believing or not believing sociological polls is a private matter for everyone, just like everyone’s private matter is to draw their own conclusion based on the results of these polls. One, looking at the essence and results of the survey, will say: interviewed wrong, not those in the wrong place. Another will say that the survey is objective and not subject to criticism. However, we will not go into the analysis of sociological works as such, but rather present the results of another such study, which was conducted by VTsIOM.


The essence of the survey was as follows: the Russians were asked to designate the greatest, in their opinion, threat to the country. The survey was conducted in mid-July in 130 locations across the country. It involved 1600 respondents of different ages, representing different social groups. At the same time, VTsIOM claims that the accuracy of the results is no more than 3,4%.

The Russians are afraid of the influx of migrants. Australian Immigration Solution


And the results were as follows: the third place in terms of its magnitude was that the respondents placed terrorist acts against important strategic sites and an environmental catastrophe (28%), according to VTsIOM, the second place was given to such a problem as the decline of culture, education and science. But most of all, judging by the results, Russians are worried about the problem of uncontrolled influx of migrants and the settlement of the country by representatives of foreign nationalities. This problem is the main for Russia called 33% of respondents.

The low standard of living, population extinction due to relatively low fertility rates, the split of the ruling elites, the exhaustion of hydrocarbon reserves did not fall into the top three most dangerous problems.

After the announcement of these results, the Russian media began to practice who would obstruct the presented data and VTsIOM itself. They started talking like this: they say that this VTsIOM was interviewed at all if even the top five Russian problems did not include the threat of the spread of drug addiction and corruption.

Of course, you can once again write out the claims to VTsIOM, but whether it is worth mentioning in this connection those concerns expressed by the Russians and presented by this very VTsIOM to the public, as they say, to the court? If the largest percentage expressed in the spirit that the problem of immigrants is today the greatest threat to the country, then it is at least foolish to ignore. No one is going to deny that drug addiction and corruption are gigantic problems, but the respondents clearly spoke about the most painful: they hardly ever have to deal with bribe takers or drug addicts, but passing through the city streets (especially the streets of a large city), the problem of uncontrolled migration visible, as they say, to the naked eye.

You can also try to shout out to those 35% mentioned, stating that uncontrolled immigration also grows on the basis of total corruption, but that this will eventually change? .. People were asked to identify the problem - they identified it. What could be the claim ...

This once again proves that the uncontrolled migration process (both from outside and inside Russia) causes obviously unfounded concerns among millions of Russians. In previous articles on this topic, “Military Review” has already published data on the hypothetical number of illegal migrants in Russia and the number of crimes that these people commit. And these numbers are truly overwhelming readers. Millions of nowhere registered persons who completely ignore the Russian laws, traditions and foundations of that society, side by side with which they decided to live, fill the cities with such intensity that sometimes entire neighborhoods turn out to be populated exclusively by immigrants (mainly from the countries of Central Asia).

Representatives of government agencies have repeatedly stated that this problem will be effectively addressed using the full range of legal tools, but only things are there. Any initiative is broken about the interest of a certain circle of people in cheap labor, for which there is no need to report and bear responsibility. People actually are, but legally they are not. This is so convenient for those gentlemen who do not want to merge into the legal field, because this infusion will deprive them of the super-profitable feeders. Conveniently, apparently, at various levels ...

As a result: the number of foreigners without a residence permit, registration, work permit and any obligations to the Russian state and society is growing. These people are well aware of the fact that they are a bargaining chip in the games of big people, and that they are beginning to have more and more weight in Russia's internal (especially labor and social) politics. And if this or that community begins to realize its importance, especially the significance outside the legal field, then this very community begins to dictate conditions gradually. At first, everything is tied up at the level of such unobtrusive dictatorship - dumping in the labor market, offering more for less, and then unobtrusiveness can disappear, and a frank dictate dictates it to replace it with a criminal ghost. And if we take into account that domestic officials themselves gave rise to this organism, which has already matured and matured, which is imbued with anti-law disputes, it becomes clear that their courage is clearly not enough for its elimination with transfer to the legal channel. Neither courage nor, in principle, a great desire.

Mass deportations will begin - our “human rights activists” will immediately raise their heads, who in such situations take such defensive positions that it becomes unclear how this defense is generally related to providing legal support to indigenous Russian citizens ... Of course, these squeals and screams can be ignored, but Russia is positioning itself solely on the rule of law. Moreover, this position is also manifested somewhat strangely. So it appears that the interests and rights of the indigenous Muscovites, Novosibirsk or Voronezh residents can be completely ignored at the expense of the interests and rights of the indigenous Dushanbe, Goulistan or Kara-Baltai, who managed to build a life in the Russian Federation.

One gets the impression that this problem concerns only ordinary Russian citizens, but does not care at all about big business and officials. Why? Because ordinary Russian citizens (especially residents of large and relatively large cities) come across it regularly, and officials, as was aptly stated in the famous film “Kin-dza-dza,” live “on another planet” and take illegal immigrants exclusively as a source permanent "left" income. Why should they worry about this if everything is grasped ...

By the way, is there any advanced foreign experience in this regard? For example, you will have to go to another hemisphere - to Australia. The local government decided to demonstrate greater rigidity in addressing the issue of foreign migration. This is due to the fact that over the past few years, the influx of foreigners who have arrived for permanent residence on the Green Continent has increased significantly. In this regard, Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd outlined the contours of the new migration policy.

Now, all those who wish to come to Australia for work or as refugees will first be sent to an Australian temporary detention center, which is located in ... Papua New Guinea. And already this way everyone who arrives will be waiting for a decision on whether the Australian authorities will give consent for granting refugee or labor migrant status or not.

Today, the main flow of migrants to Australia goes through Indonesia. And the Australian authorities explained their decision on the placement of migrants in Papua New Guinea by allegedly fearing for the life and health of people who sail on fragile vessels along the sea to the Green Continent. Clever, isn't it ... And although the UN has already scolded the Australians for such an approach, it has not led to its fundamental changes.

But this is a great example for our state. If a person really wants to live and work on the territory of the Russian Federation, having neither a profession nor education, and a priori not intending to respect the traditions of the Russian (any other Russian) people, then for God's sake ... We have many territories where work is no end . Novaya Zemlya, the island of New Siberia or Stolbovoy - and under its own power ... Yes, there are so many items with hospitable staff for immigrants can be accommodated, that even Papua New Guinea will envy ...

Only here Kevin Rudd has a political will, but ours do not have it.
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  1. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 30 July 2013 06: 51 New
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    Hmm, we do not have enough rigidity in migration policy! Or the right politicians?
    1. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 30 July 2013 08: 31 New
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      we do not have enough rigidity in migration policy! Or the right politicians?

      Both that and another.
      Under the guise of “democratizing” public life, it’s just a “corrupt official”, for the sake of the big West and business (primarily in construction), to receive a gratuitous workforce, they simply opened the doors for everyone and everyone to enter the country ... So it gushed, as an uncontrolled wave of earnings due to the "hill", and our residents of some North Caucasian republics. This will lead to what and how to the West. Europe, the United States, migrants are entrenched in the country ... will require, with the support of "compassionate human rights activists" (practicing Western grants), social benefits ... places in kindergartens and schools ... first food ... and then circuses ... And we will feed, otherwise their uncontrolled critical mass will explode and create such social tension, up to riots, that it will not seem enough ...
      There is only one way - a sharp tightening of migration policy (entry through a passport, control at both the border and registration, streamlining of planned labor migration, draconian measures against officials and the police for taking bribes in this matter, creating labor camps to work out fines and costs sending home violators). To do this, we need strong political will, without regard to Western democrats. Some kind of progress in the form of proposals appeared ... but it was taken with such a creak that ... of course, corrupt officials do not want to lose their "left earnings" ... but still have to!
      If we don’t "put the straw in now, then OH how painfully it will fall then."
      And the advice to “human rights activists” is to start protecting your citizens, not strangers ... the truth is they will not pay you ... but nothing ... you’ll kill yourself ... and so you already grabbed grants above the roof ... doing nothing for the country in which you live.
      1. skeptic
        skeptic 30 July 2013 09: 45 New
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        Quote: KazaK Bo
        If we don’t "put the straw in now, then OH how painfully it will fall then."


        Those who are obliged (on duty) to adjust the straw, have prepared, for their loved ones, spare bases over the hill. Here they take off grandmas, and if there are problems in the country, they are always ready for slime. They do not care about the problems of the people. In fact - this is a gopota "without clan and tribe" climbed into almost all echelons of power, and deprive yourself of a feeder ...

        Only if the people are tired of the lawlessness of the Gaster, let the retaliatory riot begin, cruel and merciless, then maybe the shifts in the ranks of those in power can begin. Naturally, among those who do not run up to foreign minks.
        1. KazaK Bo
          KazaK Bo 30 July 2013 10: 01 New
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          Quote: skeptic
          Those who are obliged (on duty) to adjust the straw, have prepared, for their loved ones, spare bases over the hill

          ..agrees 100% ... Well, what about us ..., we will fall "face on table" ... I don’t feel like ... tired of this turbulent era of reformers ...
        2. Arberes
          Arberes 30 July 2013 10: 08 New
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          Quote: skeptic
          They do not care about the problems of the people. In fact - this is a gopota "without clan and tribe" climbed into almost all echelons of power, and deprive yourself of a feeder ...

          You read my mind-dear skeptic . drinks
          There is such a saying, "Cutlets separately, flies separately."
          In my opinion, is it applicable to us? Power in itself and for ourselves, but what about ourselves in our own juice and with God's help?
          Most of all, it’s a shame that they really have something to pull off if everything starts seriously! Well, we'll have to cough up blood here.
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 30 July 2013 21: 48 New
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            Quote: Arberes
            In my opinion, is it applicable to us? Power in itself and for ourselves, but what about ourselves in our own juice and with God's help?


            The country under the "stationary bandit"
            All that the authorities want to know about society is how much money is needed to pay off the poor and how to make them vote for themselves.
            07.08.2012
            http://www.novayagazeta.ru/politics/53867.html
            Here just the other day, Alfred Koch, a very subtle author, better known for his "sale of Russia", made a very accurate Facebook entry, deserving of a complete listing:
            "There is such a (rather well-known) concept of the state, which is called" the state as a stationary bandit. " The meaning of this concept is that the state is a certain gang that seizes power over a certain people living in a certain territory. Once a gang discovers that it cannot expand its possessions: other gangs interfere. Then the gang begins to exploit "its" people. Very soon, she realizes that if she exploits the people too harshly, then the people either begin to die out or rise. A certain reasonable measure of exploitation is established experimentally, when a gang takes away only that part of the added value that leaves the people enough funds for expanded reproduction. In these conditions, both the gang and the people get richer. Thus, the gang turns into rational power. For a long time I could not understand why our gang is so ignorantly cynical about the people? First of all, to those who produce this very added value. And it only cares about those who somehow sit on the redistribution of the added product, and not on its production. And then it dawned on me: for the government, which chose as a concept for the development of the country almost exclusively the sale of raw materials extracted from its bowels, the population of this country is superfluous. It is not an entity producing value added, as it would be if we chose an alternative concept, which consists in development due to the growth of value added. In the selected raw materials concept, the population goes under the item “costs”, or, as it is now fashionable to say, “bones”. A rational businessman cuts the "cost". We interfere with our gang. She barely tolerates us. In reality, she needs only 2 — 3 million people who are engaged in the extraction and delivery of commodities to the markets. And in place of the rest, they would prefer to have either disenfranchised migrant workers, or state employees and pensioners directly dependent on them. If you look at the behavior of our gang power from this angle, then it turns out to be quite rational, and its current behavior towards us is almost the top of humanity and tolerance. "
            1. grafrozow
              grafrozow 31 July 2013 00: 14 New
              +5
              Quote: nycsson
              . We interfere with our gang. She barely tolerates us. In reality, it needs only 2-3 million people who are engaged in the extraction and delivery of commodities to markets. And in place of the rest, they would prefer to have either disenfranchised migrant workers, or state employees and pensioners directly dependent on them.

              It reminds Trotsky’s concept of the Labor Army, there are a lot of coincidences. Then it didn’t work, but now ....
              1. Yoshkin Kot
                Yoshkin Kot 3 August 2013 12: 41 New
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                nevermind doesn’t resemble life’s bronshteyn forced the Russian people into the labor army
            2. skeptic-
              skeptic- 31 July 2013 12: 53 New
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              Quote: nycsson
              Thus, the gang turns into rational power.


              With this sauce, you can "interpret" any form of government in any country. Well, with some nuances, the author of this opus can be "defined" as a member of the gang of the pro-Shtat group, which promoted the thieves' corruption system throughout Russia. Therefore, he has corresponding analogies.
        3. xetai9977
          xetai9977 30 July 2013 14: 44 New
          +9
          2-3 years ago we didn’t push from the Chinese. But as soon as they organized their “triads” (their own Chinese stole a wife from another Chinese businessman, cut off their finger and sent to her husband, demanding a ransom), they sent all the Chinese cleaned at 48 back. Personally, I have not seen a single one since then .... Honest hard workers, please. Bandits, either behind bars or back.
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        4. DPN
          DPN 30 July 2013 22: 03 New
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          and why be surprised if the Russian people themselves built such a state. Each individual wanted to become rich but did not succeed, now the built state, drove young people into an epicenter for their entire conscious life so that they won’t flutter. And the natural resources are for aligarchs to live in Western countries and states.
          Therefore, we don’t want to give birth to our own, so we will live in the West where blacks run to the place of whites, and the presidents, starting with the gobat, will only be able to steer the country and the people, they will not be punished by any responsibility.
      2. Gato
        Gato 30 July 2013 11: 46 New
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        Quote: KazaK Bo
        draconian measures to officials and police for taking bribes in this matter

        And who will take these measures? The officials themselves and the police general, undermining their own well-being? So they have long been living on the principle of "after us - at least a flood."
        Or will GDP be controlled personally?
        My opinion: the authorities are completely impotent in this matter. The only way out is to organize counteraction to migrants from below. It would be a desire.
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        2. KazaK Bo
          KazaK Bo 30 July 2013 15: 55 New
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          Quote: Gato
          And who will take these measures? The officials themselves and the police general, undermining their own well-being? So they have long been living on the principle of "after us - at least a flood."

          Your remark is not only legal, but also fair ... competent ... But ... but believe me - there are also decent people in law enforcement agencies ...
          And much depends on the first persons. Let’s take Kuban, Governor TKACHEV ... I’m not his adherent and supporter ... But I’m honest, and not only from me - I bow to him for dispersing almost all of the “wild” migrants as if from a hillock (they survived - - The Chinese began to grow nitrate tomatoes in the Kuban ... after the “fist on the table” of the governor - after 48 hours, not one of them was already on our fields!), and internal. Cossacks dispersed and banditry on a national basis. Now all immigrants from the North. Caucasus - quieter than water, below the grass. IT'S CALLED - POLITICAL WILL! And as they did not hurt the personal financial benefits of the police and officials, these measures of the head of the region, fulfilled his demands instantly. AGAINST THE CROWBAR, THERE IS NO RECEPTION yet!
          1. Gato
            Gato 30 July 2013 18: 18 New
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            Quote: KazaK Bo
            there are also decent people in law enforcement agencies ...
            And much depends on the first persons.

            But who argues - there are, I know of those, myself from the office. Only they rarely rise to the level of "top officials", especially in the Ministry of Internal Affairs - such a system.
            And everything should not depend on the first persons. Now Kuban was lucky with Tkachev, and tomorrow he will be “gone" - and everything will return to square one.
            Well wrong is the system.
          2. Pancho
            Pancho 30 July 2013 20: 44 New
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            C'mon, I live in Tuapse, we already come from Central Asia like dogs not slaughtered, and Caucasians (to whom I do not refer Armenians to our conditions) are also getting more and more mastered. Anyone can knock on the table with their fist, but really Our authorities cannot achieve the fulfillment of their instructions.
          3. grafrozow
            grafrozow 31 July 2013 00: 26 New
            +1
            Quote: KazaK Bo
            believe me - there are also decent people in law enforcement agencies ...
            And much depends on the first persons.

            You know, dear, I want to hope that history moves in a spiral, from 1917 to 1937, cleansing, from simple to ministers and marshals. 1993 to 2013. will there be someone to repeat?
      3. Flooding
        Flooding 30 July 2013 19: 33 New
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        Quote: KazaK Bo
        Of course, corrupt officials do not want to lose "left earnings"

        That's right, but they just forgot to mention that migrants are not only bureaucrats' left-wing earnings. But also big business. Only children are not aware of the merger of power and business.
        So it’s high time to give hands not only to the servants of the people, but also to clean their brains well, and in some cases to tamper with financial tycoons.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 July 2013 09: 00 New
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      Quote: tronin.maxim
      , we do not have enough rigidity in migration policy!

      Cruelty to migrants ??? We with Dagestanis cannot really figure it out, metam in the middle of Moscow are breaking their heads. Our state is humane to guests of all stripes.
      Although now the news shows how riot police in the market are putting things in order wassat it would be more often like this, but always better. After such operations for a long time, some brains will take their place. In any case, there will be less greyhounds
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 30 July 2013 09: 19 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Although now the news shows how riot police in the market clean things up more often, and always better. After such operations for a long time, some brains will fall into place. In any case, there will be less greyhounds


        video footage



        such raids need to be carried out constantly and not from case to case.
        Good morning Alexander hi
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 30 July 2013 09: 32 New
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          Quote: Apollon
          such raids need to be carried out constantly and not occasionally

          Hi Apollo, yes I am for shaking and twisting them daily angry
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 30 July 2013 09: 36 New
            +9
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, I'm for shaking and twisting them daily


            right and then completely lost the fear. angry
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 30 July 2013 10: 23 New
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              extension

              this same urka am who broke the head of the operative, for life and basta.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 30 July 2013 11: 25 New
                +6
                Quote: Apollon
                this same urka

                Now let him run around with cancer
                1. Tersky
                  Tersky 30 July 2013 12: 37 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Now let him run around with cancer

                  Sasha laughing ... politically incorrect .. wassat crawling from Moscow to Kolyma
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 30 July 2013 15: 08 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Tersky
                    creeping from Moscow to Kolyma

                    Cancer and only cancer!
                    1. Odessitka
                      Odessitka 30 July 2013 16: 48 New
                      +3
                      Hi!
                      Cancer and only cancer!

                      There is an expression like cancer before Kiev, so let them crawl yes
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 30 July 2013 17: 26 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Odessitka
                        Hi!
                        Cancer and only cancer!

                        There is an expression like cancer before Kiev, so let them crawl yes

                        Hi missing drinks
                  2. xoma58
                    xoma58 30 July 2013 16: 04 New
                    0
                    As an option.
              2. Tersky
                Tersky 30 July 2013 12: 35 New
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                Quote: Apollon
                this same urka

                Apollo, hi ! Now the cops will do it for their own from Magi Maryana .. It’s not for him to run into Vasya Pupkin with a gopstop ... But as a matter of fact, they played out a damn ... they’ll urinate the deputies, they’ll urinate the cops, you don’t need to speak for a simple average man. I begin to guess who else they need to soak so that this chaos stops. wink
                1. nycsson
                  nycsson 30 July 2013 21: 52 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Tersky
                  But in fact, damn it ... they’re getting rid of deputies, they’ll urge cops, you don’t need to speak for a simple layman. I begin to guess who else they need to soak so that this chaos stops.

                  But in fact, for what our oligarchs fought, they ran into something! How many millions of them are in Moscow? This can otbibyut that little does not seem!
                  1. kris
                    kris 30 July 2013 23: 00 New
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                    Modern slavery

                    1. Economic coercion of slaves to permanent work. The modern slave is forced to work without stopping to death, because The funds earned by the slave for 1 month are enough to pay for housing for 1 month, food for 1 month and travel for 1 month. Since the modern slave always has enough money only for 1 month, the modern slave is forced to work all his life until death. Pension is also a big fiction, because The slave pensioner pays all the pension for housing and food, and the slave pensioner does not have any free money left.

                    2. The second mechanism of covert coercion of slaves to work is the creation of artificial demand for pseudo-necessary goods, which are imposed on the slave using TV advertising, public relations, and the location of goods in certain places of the store. The modern slave is involved in an endless race for "new products", and for this he is forced to constantly work.

                    3. The third hidden mechanism of economic coercion of modern slaves is the credit system, with the “help” of which modern slaves are more and more drawn into credit bondage, through the mechanism of “loan interest”.

                    Every day, the modern slave needs more and more, because In order to pay off interest loans, a modern slave takes a new loan without repaying the old one, creating a pyramid of debts. The debt, constantly hanging over the modern slave, well stimulates the modern slave to work, even for a meager pay.

                    4. The fourth mechanism to get modern slaves to work for a hidden slave owner is the myth of the state. The modern slave believes that he works for the state, but in fact the slave works for the pseudo-state, because Slave money goes into the pocket of slave owners, and the concept of the state is used to obscure the brains of slaves so that slaves do not ask unnecessary questions such as: why do slaves work all their lives and always remain poor? And why do slaves have no share of profit? And to whom exactly are the money paid by slaves in the form of taxes transferred?

                    5. The fifth mechanism of hidden coercion of slaves is the inflation mechanism. Rising prices in the absence of an increase in the salary of a slave provides a hidden, invisible robbery of slaves. Thus, the modern slave is impoverished more and more.

                    6. The sixth hidden mechanism to get a slave to work for free: to deprive a slave of funds for moving and buying property in another city or another country. This mechanism forces modern slaves to work in the same city-forming enterprise and “endure” the enslaving conditions, because There are simply no other conditions for the slaves, and the slaves have nothing and nowhere to escape.

                    7. The seventh mechanism forcing a slave to work for free is the concealment of information about the real cost of labor of the slave, the real value of the goods that the slave produced. And the share of the slave’s salary, which the slave owner takes through the accounting mechanism, taking advantage of the ignorance of slaves and the lack of slave control over the surplus value that the slave owner takes for himself.

                    8. In order for modern slaves not to demand their share of profit, they did not demand to give what they earned by their fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers, great-great-grandfathers, etc. There is a suppression of the facts of plunder in the pockets of slave owners of resources that were created by numerous generations of slaves over a thousand-year history.

                    Do you still think you are free?
                    1. grafrozow
                      grafrozow 31 July 2013 00: 41 New
                      +2
                      Quote: kris
                      . The fourth mechanism to get modern slaves to work for a hidden slave owner is the myth of the state. The modern slave believes that he works for the state, but in fact the slave works for the pseudo-state, because Slave money goes into the pocket of slave owners, and the concept of the state is used to obscure the brains of slaves so that slaves do not ask unnecessary questions such as: why do slaves work all their lives and always remain poor? And why do slaves have no share of profit?

                      Dad, I want Maserati, good son, I’ll buy it for you, then the full-screen slogan is GAZPROM, dreams come true, below in small print, not for everyone, but for Gazprom shareholders.
                    2. Yoshkin Kot
                      Yoshkin Kot 3 August 2013 12: 43 New
                      0
                      and the happy Soviet time, people plowing 8 hours at the machine, also drove to the garden, weed potatoes, watering carrots so that they wouldn’t die for sure
              3. sergey261180
                sergey261180 30 July 2013 12: 49 New
                +6
                I don’t understand why they didn’t shoot him.
                1. Apollo
                  Apollo 30 July 2013 17: 49 New
                  +6
                  Quote: sergey261180
                  I don’t understand why they didn’t shoot him.


                  this is how they act in Toronto (Canada) the entire clip was thrown by a policeman in an 18-year-old guy with a knife


                  now look what the head of the metropolitan police said

                  THE CAPITAL POLICE HEAD CALLED THE ACTION OF OPERATORS IN MATVEEVSKY MARKET AS ADEQUATE

                  According to the head of the capital’s department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the operatives acted in accordance with the law without using weapons in a crowded place.
                  http://www.radiomayak.ru/news/show/id/65794/rcl/27
                  here is an encroachment on life ......... comments I think are unnecessary.
                  1. Tersky
                    Tersky 30 July 2013 18: 17 New
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                    Quote: Apollon
                    this is how they act in Toronto (Canada) the entire clip was thrown by a policeman in an 18-year-old guy with a knife
                    Well this is Canada ... In Russia, everything seems to be smoothly spelled out-
                    Violation of the life of a law enforcement officer entails the initiation of a criminal case under Article 317 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and is punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of twelve to twenty years, and disobedience to a legal order may result in administrative liability under Article 19.3 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation, which provides for penalties or administrative arrest for a term up to fifteen days. but in fact ... wassat . Now let’s see how much the next tolerant “judge” Mage will weigh .. Not otherwise, the term will be inversely proportional to the contribution amount by fellow countrymen ..
                2. Grenader
                  Grenader 30 July 2013 21: 48 New
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                  Quote: sergey261180
                  I don’t understand why they didn’t shoot him.

                  Because the police are afraid of their own prosecutor's office and court. The opera which was beaten by Dagestan women shouted like a victim - "What are you doing?" although by law he could open fire to kill. He simply endured the blows, because it is better in a hospital bed with a broken skull than to lose money work and be on the bunk. If he had hit the women or shot the Doug, a 100% case would have been brought against him. Our system makes the police suffer. Remembering the Soviet times, I want to say that then no one even thought to tremble in the strong hands of a policeman, the employees went without batons and armor and did not do poorly with their duties. Even if the lyuley was weighed, then in the case, there were almost no sadists and morons in those days. And people didn’t take offense at the received slap-blow from the policeman, as a rule they received it deservedly. Everything got cancer in the 90s. The militia stopped paying, the management turned a whisper, started taking anyone and do whatever they wanted, to the extent that officers in uniform and with service weapons were cleaning truckers on duty on duty on duty. In order to somehow change the situation, the courts and prosecutors began to punish the police (the police for everything, everything) and made them suffer. Who is to blame and what is clear. Will there be any positive changes?
                  1. Egen
                    Egen 31 July 2013 06: 27 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Grenader
                    Recalling the Soviet times, I want to say that then no one even thought to tremble in the strong hands of a policeman, the employees walked without batons and armor and did not cope poorly with their duties.

                    Everything is correct, because there was a SYSTEM of justice aimed at protecting CITIZENS. And the police felt the support of the entire STATE, and those who fell into their hands knew about it. And now the words "system", "justice", "citizens" are simply not related to each other :(
                    1. zub46
                      zub46 31 July 2013 23: 49 New
                      +3
                      Remembering the Soviet times (1970) ... As a rule, police officers were given weapons in exceptional cases. Most of all they were afraid to use it when detaining a gangster. The Soviet prosecutor’s office immediately instituted proceedings against those who applied with a clear accusatory bias. In court, the approach to our brother in such situations was still the same. It was very difficult to have fun. As a rule, at best, dismissal from service followed. From personal: in 1975 in the city of Skhodnya M.o. due to the above threats, he deliberately shot past the serial killer, accidentally encountering him in the cordon of a village. Sinful: I wanted to finish my studies at the academy I had just entered.
              4. Scoun
                Scoun 30 July 2013 13: 16 New
                +4
                Quote: Apollon
                this same urka

                and then all the arrogance flew away from him ... pressanuli him (without bruises) specifically I suppose the whole interior was shaken up ... they drove him his greyhound according to the tonsils ... they let me feel all the colors of life ...
                1. Mhpv
                  Mhpv 30 July 2013 13: 48 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Scoun
                  and then all the arrogance flew away from him ... pressanuli him (without bruises) specifically I suppose the whole interior was shaken up ... they drove him his greyhound according to the tonsils ... they let me feel all the colors of life ...

                  While they are doing a massage to him laughing
                  All interesting things, after the sentencing, they will instill a love of the police there.
                2. grafrozow
                  grafrozow 31 July 2013 00: 45 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Scoun
                  . made it possible to feel all the colors of life ...

                  No, these are just flowers-berries in front.
              5. Shooter308ful
                Shooter308ful 30 July 2013 13: 26 New
                17
                These chocks are all singing like that, "ya little man, but such a thing didn’t do anything bad for the Russian gavar too." This is an invasion, a quiet and creeping invasion of the original Slavic lands. Where is the political will to stop this invasion ????????????
                1. Warrawar
                  Warrawar 30 July 2013 16: 25 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Shooter308ful
                  This is an invasion, a quiet and creeping invasion of the original Slavic lands. Where is the political will to stop this invasion ????????????

                  Until the realization that we are Slavs, and not universal people / Eurasians, etc., comes.
                  By the way, for reference, in Russia there are no lands belonging to the Slavs at all - there are national republics and "common" lands. But there are no Russians at all, purely legally, and even more so, the Russians do not have their own lands.
                2. Scoun
                  Scoun 30 July 2013 17: 06 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Shooter308ful
                  These chocks are all singing like that, "ya little man, but such a thing didn’t do anything bad for the Russian gavar too."

                  1. If this person is a citizen of Russia and does not speak Russian - he went nafig, it is his problem that he studied poorly.
                  2. if a labor migrant, even according to the existing law, he must pass an exam on knowledge of the Russian language and there simply needs to be prescribed one more item. After passing the exam, this person signs that he passed and he does not need a translator (he passed the exam) .. and that’s it ..

                  Well, tourists should enter as tourists (maybe they should put a stamp on the forehead as a tourist .. I saw at a construction site of a Turk with the stamp "tourist" immediately confiscation and deportation, working out the fine yard with garbage.
                  1. grafrozow
                    grafrozow 31 July 2013 00: 52 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Scoun
                    . if a labor migrant, even according to the existing law, he must pass an exam on knowledge of the Russian language and there just needs to be registered one more point. After passing the exam, this person signs that he passed and he does not need a translator (he passed the exam) .. and that’s it ..

                    Have you seen Russian language courses for migrants? At least 800 words, and that’s all, he receives a certificate for the FMS. So they don’t want to learn 800 words either.
            2. vlrosch
              vlrosch 30 July 2013 20: 05 New
              +7
              What fear is there, the local policemen at their feed, they will rather tie a Russian, but they will not touch the chock. Apparently that's why the riot police sent, even if they feed themselves. And those whom they detained today at night and will be released.
          2. skeptic
            skeptic 30 July 2013 10: 20 New
            12
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, I'm for shaking and turning angry every day


            Until they understand that they are not climbing into a strange garden with their own charter. Yes, Russia is one for all, but the order for all must be one. By what court you judge - you will be judged by such a court. If you want lawlessness for others, get it both for yourself and for your kind.

            Like that. More often they need to quote the words of Alexander Nevsky, for general development.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 30 July 2013 11: 27 New
              +8
              Quote: skeptic
              Until they understand that they are not climbing into a strange garden with their own charter.

              They will be caught only when they are beaten, like dogs. They feel themselves masters, hence the impudence.
              1. Arberes
                Arberes 30 July 2013 12: 43 New
                12
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                They feel themselves masters, hence the impudence.

                Alexander! hi My regards! drinks
                What amuses me the most is how they lie specifically. He says that I didn’t beat at all and stood with my back and sincerely do not understand what claims to him?
                In general, the family got one more! Junior is an attempted rape of the 15th girl!
                Elder brother-a complete rejection of the laws of society and morality! Well, their sister to match them, with fists at the opera climbed! Look people, admire !!!
          3. avt
            avt 30 July 2013 10: 30 New
            21
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, I'm for shaking and twisting them daily

            Then it is necessary to conduct police excursion tours in the markets from all over the country. laughing Bought at the policemen markets at a time. You look more closely at the video - that dag that the weigher opera ransacked, the local "roofing policemen released, and were detained only because the diaspora betrayed them when they put concrete on Kolokoltsev grandmothers. That’s how much they lost black cash in two days at retail in Moscow! Yes, for a week of such a shmon on selling watermelons in Moscow - they will bring Abdulatipov tied and tied with ribbons with bows and cream directly to Zhitnaya! , not detention - a pornographic show and the complete disgrace of, "the best of the best." We are accustomed to impunity and to wave a ksiva, but we are not accustomed to work with our heads and hands, and we are not trained.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 30 July 2013 11: 34 New
              10
              Quote: avt
              And the operas in general - mu..k from the series, not detention - a pornographic show and complete disgrace, the best of the best. "

              What do you need at all, when the cops begin to break someone, yelling the lawlessness of the cop. The cops start shooting, so damn it, it will also be to blame, an increase in authority. One prapor lupanul idiot with a club, so zhurnalyugi raised such a howl and remember how it all ended. Interestingly, it’s easy to criticize, but you would be there wink there, 30 frostbitten Dagestanis would have waved you there, well, or you.
              1. Hon
                Hon 30 July 2013 12: 40 New
                +5
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                One prapor lupanul idiot with a club, so zhurnalyugi raised such a howl and remember how it all ended.

                Pearl enslavement inadequate stupid person and frostbite.

                On May 11, 2013, Vadim Boyko (pearl ensign) was detained by private security officers in St. Petersburg after a conflict with cafe employees, after which Boyko went home and returned with a gun. The only shot he managed to fire from a double-barreled shotgun hit the ceiling at the moment when the cafe employee tried to deflect the weapon aimed at him. Subsequently, he repented of everything that happened and admitted his guilt.
              2. matross
                matross 30 July 2013 12: 47 New
                10
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                when the cops begin to break someone, yelling at the cop's mess.

                That is the truth! Zachmy.rili cops - got a lawlessness of crime, especially ethnic! No citizens, save the police, can be saved from lawlessness, no people's squads! Stop the harassment and give the police real authority to use force. A policeman must be right a priori, like everywhere else in the world! Otherwise, the animals will be a priori right! Who needs this? Human rights activists s.r.anym?
              3. avt
                avt 30 July 2013 13: 42 New
                +8
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                What do you need at all, when the cops begin to break someone-yelling outrage of the cop

                Are you actually who? Save this tirade for wading hamsters.
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Interestingly, it’s easy to criticize, and you would have been wink there. 30 frostbitten Dagestanis would have waved you there, well, or you.

                And here I am. And the dawn of Chirkizon and its sunset were taking place in front of my eyes, I know how, for example, to the investigator — a young girl at Luzhkov — in the back in Cherkizon they simply cut a blackboard on the head and didn’t show anything on television. And as a local traffic police arrives at a watermelon slide - silently two watermelons under his armpit, I would take nothing more and go on patrolling, these are the ones that Dag Magu was dragged from the speed bump and released. Yes, and in the early 90s - with I was familiar with the guys from the land on which Riga, aka Krestovsky market, so how to feed the cops, how it all began and is still in effect - I know not from the news and not on the Internet and TV. It’s just tossing small things to you - seeds, so half light in.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 30 July 2013 15: 13 New
                  +2
                  Quote: avt
                  Save this tirade for wading hamsters.

                  Oh how are we in hostility straight
                  Quote: avt
                  during Luzhkov’s back in Cherkizon they simply hit a board on the head and didn’t show anything on TV.

                  As it was not shown, it was not shown, but from this incident the sunset of Cherkizon went
                  Quote: avt
                  .Yes and in the early 90s - with the guys from the land on which Riga, aka Krestovsky market, was familiar, so how to feed the cops, how it all started and now is

                  Do not want to take it!
                  1. avt
                    avt 30 July 2013 15: 35 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    As it was not shown, it was not shown, but from this incident the sunset of Cherkizon went

                    Cherkizon’s sunset went off the case of “Three Whales” when they seriously began to look at who was roofing the gray customs import. It hurt the oily pieces to fly past after the labors of the previous customs chiefs.
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Do not want to take it!

                    I’ll tell a fairy tale - as a good fellow, he went into the police department in a country now unknown, in the days not of epic years, and the 89th, but centuries of the past, he was amazed at the amount of wondrous goods, since there were different kinds of sneakers. And he asked the servant man — what is this marvelous thing? Thing is a dock on a roundup of duty free merchants. Well, where is all this? But you yourself think - the matter will not reach the court, but if you push it then half a year, a year. And we seize such a warehouse almost every day at the cooperative market. Well ? Yes, there is a couple of traders of quiet treasured .... And are not you afraid? Who ? The time is coming on - the very conscientious ones have already quit, and the especially stubborn criminal code and honor - as they suddenly turned out to be so bad and unscrupulous with the shame of those dismissed, who are now called werewolves. Tale a lie, I warn you right away laughing Here the tales end.
          4. fedorovith
            fedorovith 30 July 2013 19: 35 New
            +1
            Moreover, they shook with them those who are interested in their presence in Russia.
          5. Egen
            Egen 31 July 2013 06: 18 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, I'm for shaking and twisting them daily

            Guys, everyone is "for it", only in fact, alas, it turns out that those who stand behind the counter are shaking - and in the majority they are almost the same disenfranchised migrants working for a penny. And to those who stand behind them - or i.e. lies calmly at home on the couch or even on the beach - those checks are purple: (i.e., you need to fight with the head of the hydra, and not with her ... nails :)
        2. tverskoi77
          tverskoi77 30 July 2013 11: 24 New
          11
          such raids need to be carried out constantly and not from case to case.

          Unfortunately, such raids are carried out only if one of their colleagues was given a good neck. Murder, robbery, rape of ordinary citizens of the country falls under the concept of tolerance.
        3. Scoun
          Scoun 30 July 2013 13: 10 New
          10
          Quote: Apollon
          such raids need to be carried out constantly and not occasionally

          Last night, I’m walking around the town ...... and I hear a whistle ..... I look at a few young Tajiks or Uzbeks who clearly whistle two young girls passing by ... I got so furious ... I expressed everything ...
          PS.
          Let me explain why the whistle infuriated me ... usually whistle this way those who pay and the girl / country dances .... that is .. I came to Thailand, I’m a tourist, I brought money to them and am ready to spend it there and they know it and accordingly they have developed their own behavior ... as an example if I say secretly to a stranger "(whistle) Hello! and she turns around and Hello says that essentially means that she is not against dating. It’s crooked but somehow ..
          It’s not they who feed us here, but we give them food and they begin to behave as if they are our “benefactors” ...
        4. cumastra1
          cumastra1 30 July 2013 18: 00 New
          +2
          to the question of the injury - how did it leave the scene of the crime? how is the aunt of the police kicking? it just doesn’t fit in my head.
          Aristophanes. Lysistrata ... Are you sheep or guards? ...
          1. Konstantm
            Konstantm 30 July 2013 22: 53 New
            +4
            Quote: cumastra1

            Last night, I’m walking around the town ...... and I hear a whistle ..... I’m watching several obviously young Tajiks or Uzbeks whistle two young girls passing by

            And we have 2 Uzbek-builder grandmothers 79 and 74 years old who tried to rape. Grandmas barely fought back. We informed the children. They arrived, built builders. Not everyone was beaten with improvised means, they called 02. OG arrived, the grandmothers of one identified, he was detained. The rest left the construction site in a hurry, but later they were invited and taken to the police station. Now, as they say, investigative actions are underway.
        5. Klava
          Klava 30 July 2013 21: 10 New
          +2
          The policeman suffered. Maybe this will serve as a lesson for the police and an impetus for tidying up order. Already not to bribes.
        6. ale-x
          ale-x 31 July 2013 21: 44 New
          +2
          This is not just a case. Soon elections in the Mother See.
        7. Sergey Poles
          Sergey Poles 4 August 2013 19: 55 New
          +1
          it is clear that it is necessary to carry out, but not only in the markets but also at construction sites and not only in Moscow, there are now more of them in other cities than in the main throne
      2. creak
        creak 30 July 2013 10: 31 New
        17
        I wonder how the Dagestan, who had broken his head, was able to escape. The video clearly shows how two policemen are holding him, and then he dissolves ... In addition, such cases are not uncommon - you need to deal not only with visitors.
    3. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru 30 July 2013 10: 37 New
      21
      hi
      For the Russians or for the Russians?
      It is clear that a Russian is a person of any nationality who has Russian citizenship - like Gerard Depardieu, for example, or the same Tajiks - Uzbeks from the INDEPENDENT states of Central Asia.
      And then it’s actually n.assrath, from a high bell tower to the problems of migration policy, if it (this policy) does not prevent them from dragging all their relatives from their historical homeland to Russia, and best of all to Moscow.
      For RUSSIANs, the question sounds very serious - with so many migrants, the question is already being asked how to be or not to be the Russian people as such.
      And if the Russian world does not want to lose its identity and not dissolve its genotype in other nationalities, “chewing snot” with liberalistic tolerance on the part of the government is categorically not permissible here!
      A national program should be adopted with specific criteria for the preservation of the Russian nation as the “backbone” of the country and clear rules for the migration policy of Russia as a multinational state.
    4. AVV
      AVV 30 July 2013 13: 51 New
      +2
      A new land, this is a great idea! Let the markets open there! And there is enough work to arrange there!
    5. kris
      kris 30 July 2013 16: 10 New
      +3
      Migrants are specially imported. Sheeps are easier to manage!
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 30 July 2013 16: 13 New
        -2
        But I’m good to poke a chocolate bar laughing
        1. Apologet.Ru
          Apologet.Ru 30 July 2013 17: 36 New
          +9
          hi
          It’s better to pick your nose, colleague, or pick out dirt from your navel, less health hazard ... yes .
          1. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 30 July 2013 19: 55 New
            0
            Well, the Russians have always been distinguished by a craving for new knowledge and some kind of riskiness, so to speak. laughing
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    9. nycsson
      nycsson 30 July 2013 21: 42 New
      +7
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      Or the right politicians?

      Migration Policy!

      An open letter from the head of the portal Superjob.ru, Alexei Zakharov, to the President of the Russian Federation

      http://www.superjob.ru/info/announcement.html?id=111332
      Dear Mr. President!

      You set the task of creating 25 millions of “good and well-paid" jobs by 2020 year. This is a great challenge, and we, as employers, are both in favor of it.

      But the real human resources policy is that by the year 2020 there will be additional 25 million jobs created for low-skilled migrants. This is in addition to the 10 — 15 millions of jobs that are already created for them.
      As a result of state policy in the coming decades, the number of low-skilled migrants attracted from abroad will be more than half of the economically active population of the country.

      Of course, we understand that a course has been taken on the innovative development of Russia. What is innovation? This is an increase in competitiveness through the application of advanced production management methods, cost reduction, etc. etc. In this sense, attracting a large number of low-paid and low-skilled labor force, which also works mostly outside the legal field on slave terms, is an unconditional innovation that allows organizations to reduce costs and become more competitive.
  2. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 30 July 2013 06: 52 New
    +8
    I wish that such a phenomenon as migration (labor!) Was maximally streamlined and controlled! by the competent authorities. Not a ban, but total control over those who arrived at work in Russia. It seems to me. hi
    1. anip
      anip 30 July 2013 07: 25 New
      10
      Quote: Valery Neon
      Not a ban, but total control over those who arrived at work in Russia.

      Correctly. And if a newcomer has committed any crime - deportation with a ban once and for all to enter the Russian Federation.
      1. demonuga
        demonuga 30 July 2013 10: 18 New
        +5
        That's right, but first the punishment for the crime, and then the deportation forever
      2. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 30 July 2013 11: 08 New
        +3
        Like "striped striped friends - they didn’t like you, everything, entry to the States, even a tourist is forbidden, not to mention work or accommodation.
  3. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 30 July 2013 06: 57 New
    24
    The market and the labor system in Russia is a black hole worse than the Serdyukov army. And worse at times. And it does not even destroy the state, but society.
  4. Onotollah
    Onotollah 30 July 2013 06: 58 New
    22
    An infectious disease called labor migration poisons my homeland.
    And those who are responsible for her health apparently do not care.
    After all, it is not their daughters who are raped and not their sons who are killed in large numbers.
    Interestingly, is there any benefit from worms?
    1. Malleus
      Malleus 30 July 2013 12: 36 New
      +1
      "Interestingly, is there any benefit from worms?"
      some cranks use it for weight loss ... lol
  5. anip
    anip 30 July 2013 07: 20 New
    25
    Yes, the Russian people (I hate the word "Russians") are not afraid of migrants, but of Russian one-sided justice. If the law was applied to everyone the same way, and not so that “Rafik is always innocent”, and the Russian-speaking one is Nazi-fascist-etc, then it would be completely possible to put the “migrants” in their place, and at the same time eLKaEnov.
    An example should be taken from Belarus and Australia: there, in conflicts with local initially the newcomer is to blame.
    1. Doctor Evil
      Doctor Evil 30 July 2013 08: 52 New
      +6
      Quote: anip
      Yes, the Russian people (I hate the word "Russians") are not afraid of migrants, but of Russian one-sided justice.

      You're right. And the future "Russians", here they are in the photo, are coming to us in echelons.
    2. Malleus
      Malleus 30 July 2013 12: 40 New
      +7
      “An example should be taken from Belarus and Australia: the newcomer is to blame for conflicts with local people there.”

      Well, already you and I are aliens.
      http://www.nr2.ru/pict/arts1/r89/dop1/09/09/17.jpg
      1. Sea snake
        Sea snake 30 July 2013 12: 59 New
        +3
        Wow! belay It is time to rename the "North Caucasian Institute of the Ministry of Internal Affairs."
      2. alone
        alone 30 July 2013 13: 51 New
        +4
        don’t be afraid, after studying more than half of them will return to their countries, for example, between our law enforcement agencies there is a state agreement on the study of cadets in your special colleges. and those who remain mean your citizens))) because we did not issue Russian passports to them
        1. ultra
          ultra 30 July 2013 14: 44 New
          +4
          Quote: lonely
          after studying, more than half of them will return to their countries

          IMHO, it’s necessary that everyone returns! Including those that have become “citizens” of Russia! Canceling citizenship is just a matter of the political will of the authorities!
          1. alone
            alone 30 July 2013 14: 52 New
            +6
            Well, canceling a person’s citizenship, for being dark-skinned, is no longer credible))) you better cancel the citizenship of those who give Russian passports for bribes left and right.
            1. ultra
              ultra 30 July 2013 20: 26 New
              +5
              It is necessary to annul for illegally obtained passports! And those who issued them for logging, so for eleven years.
      3. smersh70
        smersh70 30 July 2013 15: 17 New
        +4
        Quote: Malleus
        Well, already you and I are aliens.



        My friend !!!!!!!! Yes, tomorrow when he returns to his home, he will defend the interests of your own country .... after all, he’s almost an agent of influence)))))))) .. here For example, I studied in Minsk .... and still if Belarus, Russian or Ukrainian contact me ... I will first of all solve his problems, because it was his homeland that gave me an excellent education! and I’m always proud of it !!! !!!!! because in the visitor's face I always see the faces of those classmates, friends, neighbors and just acquaintances who stayed there !!!! Regards !!!!!!
        1. Malleus
          Malleus 30 July 2013 15: 43 New
          +6
          to your home?
          in Moscow courts, there are already some “domesticated” judges and other justice officials.
          I doubt very much that they remember who taught them how to write standing up, but frightened them away from carnal pleasures with donkeys ...
      4. grafrozow
        grafrozow 30 July 2013 18: 27 New
        +4
        Quote: Malleus
        Well, already you and I are aliens.
        http://www.nr2.ru/pict/arts1/r89/dop1/09/09/17.jpg

        Get fucked up !!!! All "Dear Russians"
  6. GUSAR
    GUSAR 30 July 2013 07: 26 New
    18
    Migrant workers DO NOT NEED US! There are several million of their unemployed, let our government better employ them and help them, and the Ravshans and Dzhumshuts with a tablecloth will go to their stinking sunny republics! As for the Australians, well done, it's high time, Europe, by the way, also embarks on this path.
    1. Ilya Mikhalych
      Ilya Mikhalych 30 July 2013 10: 01 New
      -2
      It is not a matter of lack of work, but of the unemployed themselves. Full of work, but no one wants to work. Here guests from Central Asia come to our aid, ready for hard work for pennies.
      PS And as for the overgrown migrants, then it is necessary with them more terribly.
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 30 July 2013 11: 47 New
        10
        Full of work, but no one wants to work.


        Nobody wants to work for this salary. And they want to work.
        1. Ilya Mikhalych
          Ilya Mikhalych 30 July 2013 16: 27 New
          -2
          Still would . And even better not to do nichrome and get money.
      2. Proud.
        Proud. 30 July 2013 12: 41 New
        +8
        Quote: Ilya Mikhalych
        Full of work, but no one wants to work.

        What do you mean “doesn’t want?” Of course they want! They want to work, get a decent salary, ensure working conditions (corresponding to the Labor Code), social security, leave, pension. Our citizens, for the most part, disagree and do not live in basements or wagons and containers. They need to "raise" children, pay for the predatory services of housing and communal services. Our citizens do not want to receive 5-15 thousand rubles, signing for 30-40 thousand, allowing dealers from housing and communal services and other bureaucrats to "pocket" the difference. Therefore fairy tales about “how Russians do not want to work and migrants come to their place” are only suitable for those who have forgotten how to use their mental apparatus.
        1. Ilya Mikhalych
          Ilya Mikhalych 30 July 2013 15: 55 New
          +1
          Our citizens want a lot of things and disagree with a lot of things, but the harsh reality dictates its conditions. For example, my brother works as a foreman at a construction site, he receives good money, he saved up money for a foreign car for a couple of years - BUT for this he has to go to hell with horns and poke around in removable huts. And he tells me they say, "We are ready to pay Russian builders at least 40 thousand a month, if only they would go, but few people want to go to hell knows where and live in Spartan, and the Uzbeks are ready for anything for dozens." So there you go.
          1. grafrozow
            grafrozow 30 July 2013 18: 45 New
            +1
            Quote: Ilya Mikhalych
            for this he has to go to hell with horns and bump into removable huts. And he tells me they say, "We are ready to pay Russian builders at least 40 thousand a month, if only they would go, but few people want to go to hell knows where and live in Spartan, and the Uzbeks are ready for anything for dozens." So there you go.

            That's right, live in Spartan, and in normal conditions there will be no end to those who want it. For 30 years in the north, we lived in a trailer and in a sliding room, -50 * and a toilet on the street. I don’t want this for my children.
          2. Proud.
            Proud. 30 July 2013 18: 45 New
            +3
            Excuse me, a person’s desire to work in decent conditions is “a lot of what they want?” Or not a desire, what would you do as draft animals (cattle), is it “a lot of things you don’t agree with?” This “harsh reality” is not a natural process, it created artificially. It's X ... I'm a reality! The example you cited may be a reality, but in a particular case. And use it as an example of the general reluctance of Russian citizens to work, it looks like an inversion (using a special case to summarize the general). Judging by his phrase WE ARE READY TO ATTEMPT 40 THOUSAND PAY, his income (maybe!) is much more. He knows for what money "goes to hell and gets hooked on removable huts." I know the opposite examples in which OUR People are ready for 40 thousand, live in Spartan and suffer certain hardships. And again, this is not Gut. Pay attention to what is happening in countries that, under the pretext of compensating for labor shortages, policies of multiculturalism, humanism, openness and tolerance, temporarily go to their territory to live and work "millions of legal and not very emigrants from Muslim countries. What has this led, for example, in France, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Italy, etc. Are Uzbekistan ready for EVERYTHING for dozens? That's it, FOR EVERYTHING! In general, these are personal problems of Uzbeks. So, that's it.
            1. Ilya Mikhalych
              Ilya Mikhalych 30 July 2013 19: 40 New
              -4
              Well, if you expel all migrants, then who will do the dirty work for us!? Migrants are beneficial, although not always legal.
              1. soldier's grandson
                soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 19: 46 New
                0
                well, no one will work in Maskvabad, Muscovites are not from the periphery
                1. grafrozow
                  grafrozow 30 July 2013 20: 47 New
                  +4
                  Quote: soldier's grandson
                  well, no one will work in Maskvabad, Muscovites are not from the periphery

                  What does Moscow have to do with it? They spread all over the country like cockroaches. Disinfection in one corner will not solve the problem - they will disinfect the WHOLE HOUSE. am
                  1. Ilya Mikhalych
                    Ilya Mikhalych 30 July 2013 22: 08 New
                    -2
                    Are you a nationalist?
                    1. grafrozow
                      grafrozow 30 July 2013 23: 16 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Ilya Mikhalych
                      Are you a nationalist?

                      Now, yes, and I also want order in MY HOUSE, so that MY HOUSE is not turned into a communal apartment. Remember the “dog heart” of Shvonder and Co. Here is my house in Tyumen, not a single apartment with LKV, and everyone is only happy. A here it is worse in HISP, at the entrance of the 2nd LKN-family they got it. am
              2. grafrozow
                grafrozow 30 July 2013 20: 39 New
                +7
                Quote: Ilya Mikhalych
                Well, if you expel all migrants, then who will do the dirty work for us!? Migrants are beneficial, although not always legal.

                Dear, this is what happens, before the migrants all of Moscow was in shit? Do not tell my deceased grandmother, she will not laugh anymore. Previously, there was a turn for the position of a janitor, because they received official housing and in 10-15 years it became property. There was an incentive. And now migrants are like slaves, they have less concern with their bosses, and more profit. Stop talking about lazy Russians, I'm tired of listening to this crap. hi
                1. Ilya Mikhalych
                  Ilya Mikhalych 30 July 2013 22: 27 New
                  -5
                  Can you hear the printed text!? Yes you are a genius smile . Anyway . The time when the janitor was held in high esteem has long passed unfortunately, but today if you can’t help yourself, then no one will help. Natural selection, so to speak.
                  1. grafrozow
                    grafrozow 30 July 2013 23: 27 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Ilya Mikhalych
                    Can you hear the printed text!? Yes you are a genius. Anyway . The time when the janitor was held in high esteem has long passed unfortunately, but today if you can’t help yourself, then no one will help. Natural selection, so to speak.

                    Hear you, please, this is not natural selection, it is corruption in the housing and communal services. By the way, the house in Nadym, this is how our summer began on June 16, 2013 Question-Shihani is not on the Saratov-Volgograd highway, we go on vacation for it with our family.
                    1. Ilya Mikhalych
                      Ilya Mikhalych 30 July 2013 23: 40 New
                      0
                      It is on the track. Such a small town, a big village.
                      1. grafrozow
                        grafrozow 31 July 2013 01: 02 New
                        0
                        Quote: Ilya Mikhalych
                        It is on the track. Such a small town, a big village.

                        It will be interesting to see.
          3. Egen
            Egen 31 July 2013 06: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: Ilya Mikhalych
            "We are ready to pay Russian builders at least 40 thousand a month to pay, if only they go, but few people want to go to hell knows where to live in Spartan, and the Uzbeks are ready for anything for dozens"

            There is some truth in this: not all people are ready to WORK and EARN. Not many, but not few, want to GET money. For them, the initial wages are not the work and getting paid for it.
            While the question of the justice of payment for work is not raised, it, justice, in the conditions of capitalism, IMHO simply does not exist. And there is only a market-based salary (at the junction of the demand for workers - the supply of qualified specialists). Yes and that.
            So, just for Uzbeks, Chinese, etc. "ten" is a lot. There are Russians who do not want to do the same job for the top ten. It depends both on the person himself and on the environment where he lives. For example, on our watch people get thousands on 30, sometimes 50. This is a watch. Yesterday, only a man from Severov called about work, when he found out about ZPL, he said to the girls scornfully: "honey, I won’t work for 70 either." On the one hand, yes, he realizes his right and desire to pay, but on the other, he belittles us, I consider honest workers.
            Another example. I was in Tunisia. (yes, for such a payday I can save on vacation, where then does the guy for 70tyr rest? :)) Arabs are an extremely lazy PEOPLE as a whole. They don’t want to work, they only want to receive money. Including on tourists. For a T-shirt they ask for 2500p, they sell it for 200p (I suspect it costs 150p). I have not seen such a gap anywhere :) But this is a trifle. Tunisia is just a mountain of garbage. Because no one wants to work as a janitor for the mines installed in the 6tyr. They are waiting for the new president to be elected and 8 tyr to be established. Well, their desire is good, so that their mine will be like ours. But guys, your house 200m2 is worth 400tyr, and we have the Khrushchevka 3mln, what is it?
            So, such people are always and everywhere. Well, at least the Uzbeks and the Chinese are working, and the Russians are not all "jerkers" nevertheless!
          4. sams
            sams 31 July 2013 08: 57 New
            +1
            Ilya Mikhalych
            "We are ready to pay Russian builders at least 40 thousand a month, if only they would go, but few people want to go to hell knows where and live in Spartan, and the Uzbeks are ready for anything for dozens."


            This is all from the fable "about the bad Russian peasants" who do not know how and do not want to work (low labor productivity) and who only think about vodka all their lives (inability to work mentally and physically).
            All these stories are distributed who knows. So they just sleep and see, and even do everything to make it that way.
            Looks like you are one of them.
            1. Ilya Mikhalych
              Ilya Mikhalych 31 July 2013 10: 51 New
              0
              Well, damn it started. I’m not talking about this at all, but that the one who is dissatisfied with his life is to blame for this. And that you attribute me to liberals, I am a PATRIOT !!!
      3. smersh70
        smersh70 30 July 2013 15: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Ilya Mikhalych
        It is not a matter of lack of work, but of the unemployed themselves. Full of work, but no one wants to work. Here guests from Central Asia come to our aid, ready for hard work for pennies. PS And as for the overgrown migrants, then it is necessary with them more terribly.



        Bravo, Mikhalych !!!!!!!!! drinks
      4. grafrozow
        grafrozow 30 July 2013 18: 35 New
        +5
        Quote: Ilya Mikhalych
        It is not a matter of lack of work, but of the unemployed themselves. Full of work, but no one wants to work. Here guests from Central Asia come to our aid, ready for hard work for pennies.

        That's just for a penny. I will not work for a penny, and thank God they begin to understand that cheap does not mean good.
  7. Tersky
    Tersky 30 July 2013 07: 34 New
    15
    Quote: Volodin Alexey
    if this or that community begins to realize its significance, especially the significance outside the legal field, then this community will gradually dictate the conditions.
    What, in fact, are the indigenous inhabitants of Russian cities and villages who are convinced of through bitter experience. Moreover, every year there is no growing, downward, even in the future.
    Quote: Volodin Alexey
    One gets the impression that this problem excites exclusively ordinary Russian citizens, but it does not concern big business and officials at all.
    That this problem for bureaucrats and businessmen becomes visible and urgent to send them together with migrants to the same address -
    Quote: Volodin Alexey
    We have many territories where work is an endless land. New Earth, the island of New Siberia or Pillar - and under its own power ...
    And in conclusion:
    1. Arberes
      Arberes 30 July 2013 10: 44 New
      +6
      NOTHING WRONG?
      Allah Akbar! Is that how the caliphate begins?
    2. alone
      alone 30 July 2013 12: 08 New
      +2
      believe me, if you give each of them a Kalashnikov assault rifle, half of this crowd will shoot each other. Competitors no matter how))))
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 30 July 2013 12: 17 New
        +5
        Quote: lonely
        believe me, if you give each of them a Kalashnikov assault rifle, half of this crowd will shoot each other. Competitors no matter how

        it is possible, but after the infidels are shot., (in their concept, of course)
        1. alone
          alone 30 July 2013 12: 24 New
          +3
          they are only interested in earning. Believe me, 99% wanted to sneeze on the ideas of jihad, and even if people of different faiths who are at odds with each other look at it, oh how painful it is
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 30 July 2013 12: 58 New
            +5
            Quote: lonely
            they are only interested in earning. believe 99% wanted to sneeze on the ideas of jihad,

            Your words to God’s ears, only this is far from true this is an isolated case, and only in Moscow, on a Russian scale, is it not 1% ... of your 99% who came to "work"
            1. alone
              alone 30 July 2013 13: 54 New
              +3
              I'm talking about those who came to earn money, but Wahhabis are not interested in making money. They have Saudi billionaires in sponsors. Why are they hunched over at construction sites? They have their own idea. But that's what they caught, well done, it’s always
  8. pinecone
    pinecone 30 July 2013 07: 36 New
    14
    The destructive migration policy pursued by the government of the Russian Federation undermines people's confidence in the authorities.
    And then there’s another “image” project: the construction of an aquarium in St. Petersburg worth 3.5 billion rubles.
  9. operator35
    operator35 30 July 2013 07: 39 New
    20
    Firstly, Rafik was completely innocent))))
    the problem is serious, they are greyhound, our youth with sagging motny can not give a rebuff, hence the crime. impunity has always given rise to lawlessness.
    to expel well, just how much of our money is spent on it and what kind of kickbacks are there .....
    entry control must be tight. I heard there is in the west of the prison only for "guests". and so you don’t spend money on expulsion to close for the slightest jamb and let them plow on our country. they want to live and work here — let them sit like mice — but this will not provide power — only you and I, dear comrades, are enough to thump, everything is physically. otherwise, after 10 years, we will be staying here.
    1. rereture
      rereture 30 July 2013 11: 37 New
      10
      Quote: operator35
      the problem is serious, they are greyhound, our youth with sagging motny can not give a rebuff, hence the crime.


      Article 282, inciting ethnic hatred. Just for some reason, not one representative of the Caucasus or Asian republics did not sit on it, only Russian guys.
      1. operator35
        operator35 30 July 2013 15: 24 New
        +3
        I agree with you, only Dear, if you are afraid of our articles, you can immediately lie under all the "guests", along with children, wives, parents. I do not call, this is my personal opinion ....
        1. operator35
          operator35 30 July 2013 15: 55 New
          +3
          and by the way, I’m not fomenting, I’m not urging you to go bring down all visitors or to organize riots.
          I mean that everyone who snoops around my family (summarizing all the people close to me in one word) should leave with a bruise, and preferably with a broken nose or jaw. snooping means offending, causing bodily harm, stealing, robbing, etc. the only way.
  10. operator35
    operator35 30 July 2013 07: 43 New
    14
    by the way, I have Asians in the stadium every morning at 6 on the horizontal bars, then I meet them at the market .... and from the Russians I and two guys. and there are 10-15 of them .... and this is not the only example .. friends who play sports, everyone says that guests are constantly on the horizontal bars.
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    2. alone
      alone 30 July 2013 14: 57 New
      +3
      so we have been taught since the days of the USSR. in the morning physical exercises)))
      1. operator35
        operator35 30 July 2013 15: 27 New
        +2
        We were all taught like this, only many of our compatriots "forgot about it" and now they have priorities.
  11. makst83
    makst83 30 July 2013 07: 54 New
    10
    I was always surprised by the words of officials that we need migrants to modernize the economy ....... sorry, we will raise the economy with brooms and shovels !? Only a visa regime, but to begin to remove all Russians from Central Asia, send all illegal immigrants, close borders, years at 10 (enough time for the notion that we do not need Gaster) and develop an effective mechanism for attracting labor migrants!
    1. fedorovith
      fedorovith 30 July 2013 15: 50 New
      +5
      What kind of modernization are they talking about, half of the visitors (if not more) participate in clandestine production of washers, alcohol, butter and other products of dubious quality. They come to snatch, and how they care.
  12. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 30 July 2013 08: 12 New
    -1
    What the hell are they rolling into our cities. Siberia has a lot of empty space. Want to work? Let them go there and create conditions for themselves. THEY WANTED TO RUSSIA? TAIGA ALSO RUSSIA! OR YOU CAN SEND THEM to raise agriculture on Svalbard and Franz Josef Land. This is also Russia.
    1. mogus
      mogus 30 July 2013 08: 40 New
      +8
      From Siberia, indigenous people flee beyond the Urals from unemployment. We are here in terms of quantity as migrants.
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 30 July 2013 09: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Kibalchish
      THEY WANTED TO RUSSIA?

      you are mistaken, they do not want to Russia, they go to work, the Russian Federation as such, they are on the drum.
    3. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 30 July 2013 09: 38 New
      16
      Quote: Kibalchish
      Siberia has a lot of empty space. Want to work? Let them go there

      In Central Asia there are also places in bulk. If they want to work, let them equip their homeland.
      I am amazed at the ease with which Russians are ready to give Siberia to migrants !!!
      Well, lands are not being developed temporarily, so what? Is that a reason to hand them out? So why not the Chinese, for example?
      Earth is a value that can no longer be produced in the world. Let it be in reserve for the indigenous people of Russia.
    4. ed65b
      ed65b 30 July 2013 10: 37 New
      +8
      Quote: Kibalchish
      What the hell are they rolling into our cities. Siberia has a lot of empty space. Want to work? Let them go there and create conditions for themselves. THEY WANTED TO RUSSIA? TAIGA ALSO RUSSIA! OR YOU CAN SEND THEM to raise agriculture on Svalbard and Franz Josef Land. This is also Russia.

      Why the heck do we need them in Siberia? no, you’d better take them to yourself.
    5. washi
      washi 30 July 2013 12: 12 New
      +5
      Exactly: Siberia and the Far East are also Russia. In our country, there is already one litter of the Principality of Moscow. Why do trash from all over the country?
    6. Sea snake
      Sea snake 30 July 2013 13: 53 New
      +4
      Quote: Kibalchish
      What the hell are they rolling into our cities. Siberia has a lot of empty space. Want to work? Let them go there and create conditions for themselves.

      In how do you separate the European part of Russia and Siberia!
      Nehru they do in Siberia! And so already, you go into the bus, half of the passengers are LCN ... they have filled everything and multiply like rabbits. They’re going not only to earn money, but to somehow catch on here. They come with their children and wives, who will impose these children around them, and they themselves beg.
      In the markets, their buses are with flights from Khujand, Osh-i, Derbent, etc.
      PS: So, you leave these LCN to yourself!
      And Siberia, in fact, is capitalized.
      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv 30 July 2013 15: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: Sea Snake
        and they themselves are begging.

        You correctly noticed it, the same migrants are crowded. laughing
    7. alone
      alone 30 July 2013 14: 58 New
      +1
      there are already Chinese)))
    8. grafrozow
      grafrozow 30 July 2013 18: 58 New
      +5
      Dear, they are already here-Urengoy, taxi-azerbo .., market-Dage ..., shops-mix from the Caucasus. There is no need to take out a bucket of garbage from the apartment to the corridor, garbage must be thrown into a landfill.
      Quote: Kibalchish
      Siberia has a lot of empty space. Want to work? Let them go there and create conditions for themselves. THEY WANTED TO RUSSIA? TAIGA ALSO RUSSIA! OR YOU CAN SEND THEM to raise agriculture on Svalbard and Franz Josef Land. This is also Russia.
  13. Igor77
    Igor77 30 July 2013 08: 14 New
    +5
    I didn’t look who was there on our uneven bars, but all of ours couldn’t break into the gyms. )
    1. operator35
      operator35 30 July 2013 08: 27 New
      +4
      I agree, just go our hairline to sharpen and show off. 3-4 people work in the hall.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 30 July 2013 11: 41 New
        +4
        Quote: operator35
        I agree, just go our hairline to sharpen and show off. 3-4 people work in the hall.

        Yes, it’s enough to look at different sporting events. Some are Magomedovs and Akhmedovs)) Most of all, it’s a bit bad. When the Russian Federation is against Azerbaijan and the announcer announces Magomed Abdulov on the red corner from Russia, and Magomed Aliyev in blue)))
        1. Mhpv
          Mhpv 30 July 2013 12: 10 New
          +5
          So these Magomedovs and Akhmedovs, with the help of the local Russian authorities, turned all gyms into cafes and restaurants and kept them at home, so there is respect for our corrupt authorities. hi
          1. alone
            alone 30 July 2013 15: 00 New
            +1
            Well, the authorities are corrupt, are we to blame for chtoli?))))))
          2. Yeraz
            Yeraz 30 July 2013 19: 53 New
            +1
            Quote: mhpv
            So these Magomedovs and Akhmedovs, with the help of the local Russian authorities, turned all gyms into cafes and restaurants and kept them at home, so there is respect for our corrupt authorities.

            oh, it’s dumb to lie. They’ve taken everything away from the Russians, but they’ve built everything in themselves. In St. Petersburg there are enough sections of everything and everything. In awesome conditions, only young people like pivandra, clubs and games. .I went from my class to sports sections 1 and that’s all !!!
            And when the annual competitions were held at the University of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it seemed like you were in the championship in the Caucasus. 1st place was by the number of participants Azerbaijanis, then Dagestanis and then the rest. There were many Chechens and Ngush people in Russia, although I studied they are at the university many times more than Caucasians.
  14. andreitk20
    andreitk20 30 July 2013 08: 29 New
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    With such an immigrant policy, we will wait for unrest as in Paris, after which the officials will make round eyes as if the first time they knew about them and we will begin to disentangle this mess.
    Maybe it’s just that in Moscow and St. Petersburg it is necessary to remove the heads of administrations and districts, the chiefs of the Ministry of Internal Affairs from office, as soon as an immigrant has committed an offense, it does not matter which, so to speak, introduce personal responsibility, I think all issues will be resolved right away.
  15. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 30 July 2013 08: 39 New
    +8
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Siberia has a lot of empty space. Want to work? Let them go there and create conditions for themselves. THEY WANTED TO RUSSIA? TAIGA ALSO RUSSIA! OR YOU CAN SEND THEM to raise agriculture on Svalbard and Franz Josef Land. This is also Russia.

    unfortunately Siberia and the Far East are already teeming with them. Often, comrades from the Transcaucasus and Central Asia themselves become employers, raking in themselves certain areas of activity. It’s better not to transfer them to the northern islands, because we lose from this - huge transportation costs, and the islands are very, very far away, plus they will begin to terrorize the inhabitants of the coastal areas and a number of very significant reasons.
  16. O_RUS
    O_RUS 30 July 2013 08: 57 New
    +5
    For bureaucrats and businessmen, animals are a cheap slave force, which can be lodged in a dugout by a crowd, as well as an article of income from kickbacks, bribes (an example is registration and registration).

    And the people of the country, unfortunately, are the last.
  17. a52333
    a52333 30 July 2013 09: 02 New
    +5
    I would like to immediately separate two different concepts:
    a) Labor migration.
    b) relocation to permanent residence.
    With labor migration, whether we like it or not, we will have to put up with it. After all, few people in Moscow want to wave a shovel and a broom for relatively little money. And in connection with this:
    1) Visa mode.
    2) I would like to hope that with the withdrawal of Amer from Afghanistan on the border with Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan, there will still be a barrier that, along with the control of drug trafficking, will supervise the visa regime.
    3) Raids of combatants together with the migration service + deportation.
    4) Increased income tax on labor migrants.
    5) A tough stance on employers who hire labor migrants without (with violation) of the visa regime.
    Regarding permanent residence.
    1) Make efforts to repatriate the Slavic population of Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan.
    2) For non-title nations:
    a) 10 - a summer ban on internal migration. (As an option, do not give citizenship immediately, but for a start - a residence permit.)
    b) not allow the creation of enclaves. Distribute with low density for assimilation.
    1. Gato
      Gato 30 July 2013 12: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: a52333
      A tough stance on employers who hire labor migrants without (with violation) a visa regime.

      As far as I know, up to 6 years is now shining for organizing illegal labor migration.
      Only when was this article last applied?
    2. Goodmen
      Goodmen 30 July 2013 13: 02 New
      +6
      It seems to me that Asian migrants on the territory of the Russian Federation are not needed at all in any way. Regarding the salaries of janitors in Moscow, this is a separate topic for discussion, and migrants in it are only a small part of the issue.
      As for the LCN - all in the mountains. If a person has a secondary education - special or higher education, then let him work in other regions and then strictly by profession. To get specialized education strictly in the territories of their republics - otherwise they all have 100% rolls over the Unified State Examination, and then the "tower" breaks down to get economic or legal where no one expects them ... and there is no sense from such "specialists" no ... here, let them receive technical education at their place, and then apply for residency in other regions of the Russian Federation ... disperse all diasporas accordingly ... clear out all business structures that belong to them ... and not satisfied with the irrigation ditch ... at the same time crush screaming "human rights activists" ... the main thing is not to look back to the West. The people of the Russian Federation (and believe me not only Russians) are sure to support such initiatives. The main political will that would be. These measures do not apply to doctors, teachers, representatives of other professions - only to parasites of traders, bombers, "builders", as well as to idlers ... this is the risk group, of which the vast majority.
      And so everything is according to the law - if you choose freedom of movement - be useful to the society in whose territory you are going to live, and not be a parasite, as it is now happening.
      And in 10-15 years, it’s possible to let a small part into the sphere of public catering ... and that’s very neat, but it’s better not to do this ...
  18. strange and pretty meaningless
    strange and pretty meaningless 30 July 2013 09: 11 New
    +5
    Only here Kevin Rudd has a political will, but ours do not have it.

    It just manifests itself - do not close your eyes to that. The absence of clear steps in the migration "politics" is also politics. I remember that in Primorye, at the dawn of the construction projects of the century (Summit new buildings, a miracle bridge, etc.), it was announced that what good would fall on our heads. The local construction industry wrote boiling water. Then it turned out that local builders were unsuitable for solving such large-scale tasks - in fact, all these “miracles” were built by the Tajik construction. Effect - the loot was sawn, the tuyeva hucha of the “right” people was rebuilt. The same story with the Olympics. Migrant workers are very convenient for such things - "put a jam tile bathtub" and ... money for a ticket and a kick in the ass. If during the years of my student life it was possible to play a good trick on "European-quality repairs", now the topic is closed tightly - Tajikstroy drives. But Putin doesn’t know ...
    Although, in principle, you should not blame Power for everything. There is no resistance on the ground. In the end, Putin doesn’t order apartment renovations and the construction of “town houses” for Tajiks ...
  19. dansar
    dansar 30 July 2013 09: 18 New
    +1
    We have many territories where work is an endless land. New Earth, ...

    On Novaya Zemlya there is an operating testing ground for nuclear weapons testing; these "persons without nationality" are not needed there.
    1. Gato
      Gato 30 July 2013 12: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: dansar
      On Novaya Zemlya there is an operating testing ground for nuclear weapons testing; these "persons without nationality" are not needed there.

      Well, if only as experimental mice.
    2. Warrawar
      Warrawar 30 July 2013 16: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: dansar
      On Novaya Zemlya there is an operating testing ground for nuclear weapons testing; these "persons without nationality" are not needed there.

      Well, test them.
    3. grafrozow
      grafrozow 30 July 2013 19: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: dansar
      On Novaya Zemlya there is an operating testing ground for nuclear weapons testing; these "persons without nationality" are not needed there.

      The landfill is closed, but the radiation remains. Let them make a camp for migrants who want to, check their qualifications, teach the Russian language, use the experience of Australia. My brother flew to Australia to relatives, so when I got a visa I needed a certificate that my relatives were able to support him for 2 months and buy him a return ticket to Moscow, what a bad example?
  20. pinecone
    pinecone 30 July 2013 09: 30 New
    11
    Quote: a52333

    b) not allow the creation of enclaves. Distribute with low density for assimilation.


    The Lord is with you, what kind of “assimilation” can there be, because they are absolutely alien to us, moreover, in all respects, and we have nothing in common with them. We are talking about the occupation of the country by alien invaders.
  21. Belogor
    Belogor 30 July 2013 09: 31 New
    13
    The whole problem is that illegal migration has a powerful lobby, bureaucracy of all levels, well, who will refuse such a good feeding trough. That is why, this problem will be borne by the population for a long time.
  22. Middle-brother
    Middle-brother 30 July 2013 09: 48 New
    +8
    Australia is good, it is an island. Loaded a couple of steamboats of migrants and, hello, New Guinea! And a couple of thousand are deported from us, and they are crawled again and dragged by relatives according to new passports. The phenomenon of “labor migration” must be prohibited. Tourist visa for 1 month and goodbye. Re-arrival - in six months. Violated the terms of stay - no longer allowed. He was detained for violations during his stay - get out of the country, ban entry forever.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 30 July 2013 17: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: Middle Brother
      Australia is good, it is an island. Loaded a couple of steamboats of migrants and, hello, New Guinea!

      What is worse for Russia winked, there is Novaya Zemlya, France-Joseph Land, loaded a couple of bulk carriers and hello Arctic fellow
      Take a look - what is not the island of Bali laughing
  23. pinecone
    pinecone 30 July 2013 09: 58 New
    +8
    About the so-called "rebellion" of the peoples of Central Asia., Flared up in the summer of 1916. after the announcement of the tsar’s decree on attracting part of the male population of Turkestan to rear operations in the frontline areas.

    After the Ottoman Empire entered the First World War (October 1914), such appeals spread in the territories of Turkestan and the Steppe Territory: “Muslims! The Caliph of Islam reigning over us - the Turkish Sultan, is waging war with Russia and other allied states. Every Muslim must sympathize with this holy war of the Sultan and must immediately sacrifice for its needs and for the good of the war of all Islam. And the one who is not able to sacrifice, he himself must join the ranks of the battle against the infidels ... It is time for the liberation of the Giaurov-Russians from power ... ” Rumors circulated about the defeats of the Russian troops, and the smallest successes of the German and, especially, the Ottoman forces were unrestrainedly praised.
    In a number of places, especially in the Ferghana Valley, the uprising was led by dervish preachers calling for ghazavat. An eyewitness to the uprising, A. Mamirov, told (June 1946) that the slogans of the rebels were: “Down with the White Tsar and the Russians.” "Do not be afraid! If you are killed, you become martyrs, if you kill, you will be gases (fighters for faith)! Beat the Russians, make Muslimabad - the Muslim world! We will kill the Russians and create a Muslim state. "
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 30 July 2013 16: 42 New
      +3
      Quote: pinecone
      About the so-called "rebellion" of the peoples of Central Asia., Flared up in the summer of 1916. after the announcement of the tsar’s decree on attracting part of the male population of Turkestan to rear operations in the frontline areas.

      Pretty boy! Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! Let all guardians see this for the "brotherhood in the USSR"
  24. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 30 July 2013 09: 59 New
    +3
    Quote: Belogor
    bureaucracy at all levels, well, who will refuse such a good feeder. That is why, this problem will be borne by the population for a long time.

    I agree, so it's time to deal with their units. soldier
  25. maestro123
    maestro123 30 July 2013 10: 10 New
    +8
    Currently, migrants from neighboring countries are janitors, builders and handymen.
    As time passes, clans form and they will no longer work, but will look for ways to make easy money. Already now they are greyhound ...
    It is necessary to fundamentally change the rules for their stay on the territory of the Russian Federation, to build controlled dormitories in separate territories with temporary residence permits at the hostel with the help of migrants, followed by their departure to their homeland.
  26. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 30 July 2013 10: 11 New
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: tronin.maxim
    , we do not have enough rigidity in migration policy!

    Cruelty to migrants ??? We with Dagestanis cannot really figure it out, metam in the middle of Moscow are breaking their heads. Our state is humane to guests of all stripes.
    Although now the news shows how riot police in the market are putting things in order wassat it would be more often like this, but always better. After such operations for a long time, some brains will take their place. In any case, there will be less greyhounds

    I completely agree with you that police raids need to be established more often, and indeed to tighten immigration laws, otherwise I don’t feel ... and become impudent! Work with migrants should begin from the border and so on at all levels, and the right to trade within the country can be determined by the principle of registration, or so that foreigners would import goods, sell them to markets, and the markets themselves would hire sellers for resale, and what Regarding control, in the Union the Chekists controlled the whole country, and now the authorities cannot control a single market! Or does not want?
    1. Gato
      Gato 30 July 2013 12: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      power can not control a single market! Or does not want?

      And he wants, and maybe he controls. And he gets big incomes from this. Or do you seriously think that markets are completely left to black?
  27. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 30 July 2013 10: 14 New
    +6
    Quote: a52333

    b) not allow the creation of enclaves. Distribute with low density for assimilation.

    Sometimes, going out into the street, I begin to doubt whether I live in Russia? They are everywhere like cockroaches. And the number is constantly increasing.
  28. waisson
    waisson 30 July 2013 10: 15 New
    +2
    well done Australians we would create such a filtration point somewhere in Siberia and they would sit and think while they are considering their candidacy is it worth it or isn’t worth it to work and break the laws in RUSSIA
  29. Mhpv
    Mhpv 30 July 2013 10: 26 New
    +5
    Believe or not believe sociological polls - everyone’s private affair
    quite right, just every day at the Novoslobodskaya metro station I see women offering to participate in the survey and get 100rub, and the fact that migration is the number one problem for the residents of Russia can not hide anything.
    After a traffic accident with a bus near Podolsk, both drove and ride. Today, in spite of the prohibition sign for trucks, a pre-timber truck with a trailer loaded with a saw cut all the skewed and driving migrant, arrived at Novoslobodskaya in the area of ​​Miuskaya street, the same migrants are already lighting up on Gazelles Housing and communal services.
    The raids take place only after the incidents, and they do not get along quite well with law enforcement agencies, you can regularly observe Komsomolskaya for their peaceful coexistence, only periodically they are kicked out for excuses for a couple of days.
    48 hours to decriminalize markets laughing do not tell mine I .... ah!
    One "Gardener" for a week, or even more, needs to be checked. There are already so bummy that they can easily be rude simply because you are not happy with the price and you will take it from another (it was more the wife said a foot there.
    In general, it seems to me that such social explosions as in Pugachev will only become more frequent, people do not believe in the authorities and begin to defend themselves, but you yourself know what will lead to it.
    It is possible that the authorities do not want to aggravate this problem until the Olympics take place, because there are a lot of problems that haven’t been invested in money. So far, this problem has not been solved.
    1. Alexandr2510
      Alexandr2510 30 July 2013 17: 35 New
      +2
      [/ Quote]
      It is possible that the authorities do not want to aggravate this problem until the Olympics are held, because there is a lot of money that has been swollen a lot of problems that have not yet been solved because of = this Olympiad. [/ Quote]
      It would be nice if the whole thing was at the Olympics, but unfortunately you are already walking along Voronezh as if you were already in Dushanbe or Tashkent belay
  30. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 30 July 2013 10: 28 New
    +7
    Quote: anip
    Yes, the Russian people (I hate the word "Russians") are not afraid of migrants, but of Russian one-sided justice. If the law was applied to everyone the same way, and not so that “Rafik is always innocent”, and the Russian-speaking one is Nazi-fascist-etc, then it would be completely possible to put the “migrants” in their place, and at the same time eLKaEnov.
    An example should be taken from Belarus and Australia: there, in conflicts with local initially the newcomer is to blame.

    I completely agree with you, a few days ago I raised the question on this site that it was necessary to tighten the question for migrants and the so-called Caucasians, and that the Slavs didn’t get in the way of interfering with the newcomers, as one Azerbaijani criticized me and called me a fascist, but I nevertheless In any case, I will remain with my opinion! And further. if they are already breaking through our heads of cops, what next? He is the Russian people, he is like a spring, they are crushing him, crushing him, and if the government doesn’t change his mind, the people can straighten up and then it will not show anyone!
    1. Mhpv
      Mhpv 30 July 2013 11: 21 New
      +5
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      He is the Russian people, it’s like a spring, it’s crushed, crushed, and if the government doesn’t come to its senses, the people can straighten themselves and then it will not seem to anyone!

    2. Egen
      Egen 31 July 2013 07: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      if they are already breaking through our heads of cops, what next?

      And then on. If our police are afraid to give a rebuff, why are we cluttering the topic of civilian weapons? In this example, we must take from America. Not from those morons in New England, where every house has an arsenal, but students in schools are shot. And from real men - cowboys :) True, there are very few of those left :(. But anyway. I wrote once: I visited Arizona, there are a lot of NORMAL people who walk almost openly with revolvers (tradition). And although there are enough Mexicans there , gangsters, and the Chinese with blacks got through, but the crime rate is very low. I myself somehow observed a quarrel - such as tough guys (dressed as office workers for the weekend) quarreled about something in the bar, each with a cannon, and even in the bar full of such, but shouted and prudently calmed down, no one "came out" :), only we who were present the Russians were frightened, and they reacted as if they were a common thing. But if it’s serious, then their guns are not always for show off, to protect themselves or something, they’ll put into action simply AUTOMATICALLY, and everything is legal. I specifically asked the district judge about this. So, they have support for protecting the people, so that they don’t say bad things about the States, with excesses, of course, but without them, and with us everything is just the opposite. And all because, as I no longer remember who said, our state is afraid of its own people and does not give up arms.
      Threat thought further: what comes out of democracy as in the United States, the state of the people is not afraid and therefore at the same time (well, at least of type) with the people, and if we have the other way around, then with us then what? Not socialism, not democracy, but - what, totalitarianism or something else?
  31. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 30 July 2013 10: 34 New
    0
    The VTsIOM never publishes any material without looking at the Kremlin, and the Moscow police react to recent events extremely harshly, just the good old days of RUOPA and the mask of the show are recalled, it is likely that something began to reach our authorities.
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 30 July 2013 13: 00 New
      +2
      After the deputy was cleaned up, they realized that they could go into the Kremlin and give some to the snout.
  32. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 30 July 2013 10: 38 New
    +6
    Quote: maestro123
    Currently, migrants from neighboring countries are janitors, builders and handymen.
    As time passes, clans form and they will no longer work, but will look for ways to make easy money. Already now they are greyhound ...
    It is necessary to fundamentally change the rules for their stay on the territory of the Russian Federation, to build controlled dormitories in separate territories with temporary residence permits at the hostel with the help of migrants, followed by their departure to their homeland.

    There is no need for hostels, those who haven’t come yet to let them in, and those who are here as a stage to their homeland !!!
  33. Apollo
    Apollo 30 July 2013 10: 40 New
    +9
    Kolokoltsev instructed to eliminate ethnic crime in Moscow as soon as possible

    Moscow. 30 July. INTERFAX.RU - The press center of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation confirmed that the Minister of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation Vladimir Kolokoltsev instructed the head of the capital’s chief, Anatoly Yakunin, to carry out a series of measures to combat crime in the Russian capital.

    The press center of the Ministry of Internal Affairs explained that the minister’s directive applies not only to capital markets; we are talking about the fight against organized and ethnic crime, the suppression of the activities of "thieves in law."

    Large-scale events will not last two days, as the press writes, but a longer period of time.

    http://www.interfax.ru/moscow/news.asp?id=320921

    The question is, what prevented you from giving instructions earlier or had to wait for an emergency ?! winked
    1. SIT
      SIT 30 July 2013 11: 07 New
      10
      Quote: Apollon
      The question is, what prevented you from giving instructions earlier, or did you have to wait for an emergency?

      There were no mayoral elections before. Now there is an election campaign and we need PR. After the election, everything will calm down and the blacks who have escaped will return, each bringing with them a dozen relatives.
    2. sergey261180
      sergey261180 30 July 2013 13: 01 New
      +4
      This is all a show for looking away. Fundamentally, nothing will change.
  34. ed65b
    ed65b 30 July 2013 10: 43 New
    +6
    This friend is just the beginning. That's how, thanks to the government and personally the GDP, we’ll put together a customs union from the Kyrgyz and Tajiks, then we’ll see what resettlement is. and God forbid, Nazarbay will die, and he will not die; the terminator, because yes Karimych, then we will see the Kazakhs and the steppes and Uzbeks in full force. Borders on the castle, the visa regime in the toughest version. Maybe we will fight back.
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 30 July 2013 16: 56 New
      0
      Quote: ed65b
      This friend is just the beginning. That's how, thanks to the government and personally the GDP, we’ll put together a customs union from the Kyrgyz and Tajiks, then we’ll see what resettlement is. and God forbid, Nazarbay will die, and he will not die; the terminator, because yes Karimych, then we will see the Kazakhs and the steppes and Uzbeks in full force. Borders on the castle, the visa regime in the toughest version. Maybe we will fight back.

      And when this happens, Belarus will come out of the CU and join the EU, crossing and tearing.
  35. AleksUkr
    AleksUkr 30 July 2013 10: 50 New
    +6
    №№№№ We have many territories where work is an endless land. New Earth, the island of New Siberia or Pillar - and under its own power…

    BUT I WOULD LIKE THEM IN MOSCOW ...
  36. treskoed
    treskoed 30 July 2013 10: 52 New
    +2
    I wonder how many mosques have been built in Moscow recently, who allowed the construction and who gave the money?
    1. avt
      avt 30 July 2013 11: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: treskoed
      I wonder how many mosques have been built in Moscow recently, who allowed the construction and who gave the money?

      Right here - Sobyanin refused to build mosques in every district.
  37. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 30 July 2013 11: 00 New
    +9
    Are migrant workers tired? The solution is obvious - legally guarantee payment to foreigners 1,5 - 2 times more than local. For violation - a huge fine for the work. This is only stupid at first glance, in practice it with a 100% guarantee will turn the domestic employer to face their own citizens, and foreigners will eliminate themselves for lack of prospects. Someone will say that this will push already arrived towards crime. Well, there will be a reason to deport.
    1. vadimN
      vadimN 30 July 2013 11: 11 New
      +4
      Well, it is hardly possible to consider the Japanese as stupid people, but nevertheless, in Japan it is precisely such legislation regarding foreign workers that applies!
    2. Middle-brother
      Middle-brother 30 July 2013 11: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: Фкенщь13
      The solution is obvious - legally guarantee foreigners payment in 1,5 - 2 times more than local.

      This will not work for us. Our greedy employer, and that’s not the point. This is beneficial for some, and if so, labor migration will be maintained at the highest level.
    3. Essenger
      Essenger 30 July 2013 13: 49 New
      +6
      Quote: Фкенщь13
      The solution is obvious - legally guarantee foreigners payment in 1,5 - 2 times more than local.

      Then the migrants will quickly become "Russians." We must fight corruption in the first place.
    4. avt
      avt 30 July 2013 17: 24 New
      0
      Quote: Фкенщь13
      Are migrant workers tired? The solution is obvious - legislatively guarantee foreigners payment of 1,5 - 2 times more than local. For violation - a huge fine for the work. This is only stupid at first glance, in practice it with a 100% guarantee will turn the domestic employer to face their own citizens, and foreigners will eliminate themselves for lack of prospects. Someone will say that this will push already arrived towards crime. Well, there will be a reason to deport.

      Well, my friend! We do not have Japan, we can only appoint an emperor, to the extreme - the savior of the fatherland. laughing You still suggest how they have - to ban Islam by law as a harmful sect.
  38. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 11: 07 New
    +8
    Quote: Apollon
    Kolokoltsev instructed to eliminate ethnic crime in Moscow as soon as possible

    Moscow. 30 July. INTERFAX.RU - The press center of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation confirmed that the Minister of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation Vladimir Kolokoltsev instructed the head of the capital’s chief, Anatoly Yakunin, to carry out a series of measures to combat crime in the Russian capital.

    The press center of the Ministry of Internal Affairs explained that the minister’s directive applies not only to capital markets; we are talking about the fight against organized and ethnic crime, the suppression of the activities of "thieves in law."

    Large-scale events will not last two days, as the press writes, but a longer period of time.

    http://www.interfax.ru/moscow/news.asp?id=320921

    The question is, what prevented you from giving instructions earlier or had to wait for an emergency ?! winked

    it should be noted that the sweep in the markets began after the cops were beaten up on the head, and not after the rape of the youngster occurred, but if sweeps were done for each crime, I think that the situation would be different
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 30 July 2013 13: 05 New
      +1
      mopping up in the markets began after the cop on the head was fucked up
      The cops are already beaten on the head, and the kipish started because it hit the television.
      1. Warrawar
        Warrawar 30 July 2013 16: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: sergey261180
        The cops are already beaten on the head, and the kipish started because it hit the television.

        We don’t have the police at all, but don’t understand what. Just a bunch. They are capable of chasing only juvenile hipster-white-bellies, but they cannot and do not want to deal with real criminals.
        1. Grenader
          Grenader 30 July 2013 21: 17 New
          +2
          Quote: Warrawar
          We don’t have the police at all, but don’t understand what. Just a bunch. They are capable of chasing only juvenile hipster-white-bellies, but they cannot and do not want to deal with real criminals.

          Not that they could not. In Russia, everything depends on the instructions from the top. My father-in-law worked in the prosecutor's office in the 90s. They had information about all the criminal authorities, about theft, about the misappropriation of state property. Waiting only for the catch command. But it never followed.
  39. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 30 July 2013 11: 09 New
    11
    But what about Tsar-Batyushko? Doesn’t Tsar-Batyushka know about the problem with migrants? Tsar-Batyushka doesn’t know that Serdyukov is a thief, or doesn’t see that Medvedev is Medvedev, the Central Bank has firmly established himself in power and he has no competitors Clowns are full, but is it really an achievement when there is not a single worthy person around you? As long as the Central Bank in power doesn’t change anything, everything will be as usual. Migrants or the Chechens of the next Russian will kill, well, they will carry out a raid, they will put a couple in the air and let them out, well, they’ll speak The Central Bank with a despondent face with its condolences will give another instruction to "deepen and expand" and that’s all ... It has already happened more than once and it will be many, many times. Although some still have illusions about the Central Bank and they sincerely believe that the Central Bank simply does not know or can not solve the problem, but he cannot not know, because even a raccoon in the zoo knows about all these problems, and if you can’t, then what are you doing in power? it is well apparently obtained. Some kind of absurdity.
  40. tverskoi77
    tverskoi77 30 July 2013 11: 19 New
    +1
    Interestingly, our president does not have enough political will? ... doesn’t look like him, it means he’s bought, and this is worse!
    1. MakSim51ru
      MakSim51ru 31 July 2013 10: 11 New
      0
      This is not the case. There are just 2 problems here, the first has already been voiced in the article, an excess of migrants. The second, oddly enough, is their shortage. Employers are directly interested in lowering costs by lowering wages, and this can only be done with migrants. And it would be foolish to blame employers for self-interest (especially since the main employer is our state). It’s just such a wrong side of competition. This is especially evident in the areas of construction, utilities, a number of other industries. On the other hand, their own citizens are often not satisfied with both the level of payment and working conditions. All this creates the prerequisites for uncontrolled migration. Moreover, migration is also a kind of trump card of our government. I will give you an example. A few years ago, the Russian government was very upset by NATO plans to deploy missile defense elements in Eastern Europe. And so, our delegation is going to the Celestial Empire for some third-rate negotiations. Yeah, and after a couple of days we are informed that an agreement has been reached to increase labor quotas for China. From a million to one and a half million people a year. Further, the Chinese are already moving their rods to Washington and, lo and behold, Nato abandons plans to deploy missiles in Poland and the Czech Republic.
      1. tverskoi77
        tverskoi77 31 July 2013 11: 28 New
        +3
        I do not agree with you. In our case, migrants are not a substitute for a shortage of personnel, it is an extremely cheap labor force. Plus, no responsibility of the employer, we will not talk about social responsibility at all. On this basis, a wage system has been developed for a number of professions, where the level of salaries is reduced to disgrace and of course the indigenous population is not ready to go to work as a driver of a minibus rotten through with semi-fixed brakes with a work schedule of 14 hours a day with accommodation in the minibus itself.
        As a result, migrant workers are practically slaves held hostage by employers, and if a slave breaks loose or is kicked out, he has no choice but to commit a crime. And our children walk the streets, the children of employers walk the streets of completely different cities.
        It is difficult to blame the employer for such an attitude towards migrants. for him it’s just a business and an opportunity to get superprofits. As the drunk driver who brought down the pedestrian is not guilty if in traffic regulations he is not forbidden to drink while driving.
        I am inclined that after all I bought power with giblets and everything will end like in the 17th year.
        And flaunting quotas for solving foreign policy goals reminds me of criminal orders when the lives of soldiers are worthless. In this case, the soldiers are us.
        1. MakSim51ru
          MakSim51ru 31 July 2013 14: 17 New
          +2
          And no one speaks of a lack of personnel. The staff is full and labor migrants find themselves in the role of strikebreakers. As for the examples with minibuses, in most cases (at least in my city) cars are quite expensive Fords and Peugeots, and the drivers are the same that drove on crumbling gazelles.
          As for their slavish position, then I don’t agree with you the same. I constantly encounter migrants in Svyaznoy stores, where they transfer money to their homeland. And I’ll tell you, the amounts are not so small. On average, 30 kilograms of rubles, but sometimes it reaches 40, and in some cases more.
          1. tverskoi77
            tverskoi77 2 August 2013 11: 16 New
            +2
            That is, according to your reasoning, everything is basically normal. Emigrants are strikebreakers, such a natural labor process is underway. No consequences for us and our children. Criminal statistics are also quite normal.? !!!
            There are facts ... it’s enough for any person to go out and look around. Everything else is words, words, words. By the way, I did not find the word strikebreaker in the Russian language.
            You do not protect the power, you protect the Fatherland!
  41. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 11: 39 New
    +3
    migrant workers should be in camps and not rent housing, that is, they should be isolated from the local population
    1. alone
      alone 30 July 2013 12: 12 New
      +2
      where do you order? to Buchenwald or to Auschwitz?))))
      1. ultra
        ultra 30 July 2013 14: 51 New
        +2
        Quote: lonely
        where do you order? to Buchenwald or to Auschwitz?))))

        Why are such extremes! Just to the historical homeland!
      2. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 15: 28 New
        +5
        Well, do not like any of the options, let them not come, we do not call them to ourselves
    2. washi
      washi 30 July 2013 12: 33 New
      +1
      Yeah, and also put the guards and barbed wire. Build towers and call Auschwitz.
      And the fact that many are citizens of the Russian Federation from other regions does not bother anyone? It can simply prohibit speculation (destroy ALL intermediaries), place the head offices of companies in those regions where they conduct their main activity, and not in Moscow, transfer capital functions from Moscow Trade to the center of the country, eliminate the concept of "average salary", and etc. Including the conquest, again, of Central Asia and the restoration of agriculture and the mining industry there.
      The only problem is who will do this? You won’t earn ratings on this, dough, perhaps, too
    3. Warrawar
      Warrawar 30 July 2013 17: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: soldier's grandson
      migrant workers should be in camps and not rent housing, that is, they should be isolated from the local population

      If they "shot" it then they would be many times less, since this pleasure costs money. And they live in basements and houses demolished. Look at this topic for information on the net.
  42. makdy
    makdy 30 July 2013 11: 54 New
    +1
    And how does the work of the authorities correlate with the total Orthodoxism of officials and the president?
    Where is the care of the shepherds for the life of God's servants?
    1. MakSim51ru
      MakSim51ru 31 July 2013 16: 47 New
      +2
      How is it correlated? Yes, simple. So far they are suppressing sins in Orthodox churches ... But I do not exclude that in 5 years they will do this already in mosques or Buddhist temples
  43. SvetoRus
    SvetoRus 30 July 2013 12: 16 New
    +3
    Fighting illegal migration and ethnic crime in Russia, using police raids or organizing camps for them like the Australian ones, is like trying to treat bilateral pneumonia by lowering the temperature by applying cold compresses, but without the use of antibiotics. The roots of this problem lie , in the ideology of the individual consumer consumer imposed on us, who lives one day, the success of which is measured by the amount of money and the possibility of their demonstration. From here, a lot comes from the cult of loving love that we don’t like.
  44. alone
    alone 30 July 2013 12: 28 New
    +7
    we must fight like ours! as soon as the Chinese came to us in a crowd and began to create mafia groups, our migration services and the police, they kicked them out of the state in an instant. But what should you do with those who gravitate toward crime and lawlessness? Do you want to work? respect the law and local orders, do not want to ,then piss off
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 30 July 2013 14: 01 New
      +1
      Speak lonely right hi
      1. alone
        alone 30 July 2013 15: 02 New
        0
        because and alone that I say right)) wink
  45. alone
    alone 30 July 2013 12: 31 New
    +5
    and more. system corruption. that’s where the problem is. many of them already have Russian passports obtained in an obviously illegal way. But they will not be deported already. And these are the ones who gravitate towards crime. an illegal immigrant would stick his head somewhere so as not to light up, and that’s already on the drum. passport in his pocket
  46. Egor.nic
    Egor.nic 30 July 2013 12: 37 New
    +1
    Article in the top ten !!!
  47. washi
    washi 30 July 2013 12: 38 New
    +2
    Regarding the shmona of Moscow markets: market leaders and tent owners need to be shuffled. They rent this out and hire someone unclear. Sellers, except for the lack of registration, are not to blame.
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 15: 34 New
      +5
      innocent sellers rushed to protect the pedophile, and so they are not at all to blame
    2. Warrawar
      Warrawar 30 July 2013 17: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: Vasya
      Regarding the shmona of Moscow markets: market leaders and tent owners need to be shuffled. They rent this out and hire someone unclear. Sellers, except for the lack of registration, are not to blame.

      It’s not necessary to sneak up a specific category, for example, owners and managers or illegal immigrants themselves, but it is necessary to carry out a massive operation in general concerning all categories of violators. And do not engage in "selective" justice, because it is not justice but a place of justice, for the amusement of the public.
      And all the guilty here and those who are lucky and those who are being driven and those who cover it all.
  48. bilgesez
    bilgesez 30 July 2013 12: 42 New
    +6
    For this power, the main enemy is the Russian people, and migrant workers, in which case they will defend this power, therefore, they have a lenient attitude, and the Russians take the most stringent measures. We are enemies for this power, and they are friends, so nothing will change.
  49. zvereok
    zvereok 30 July 2013 12: 57 New
    +5
    Quote: andreitk20
    With such an immigrant policy, we will wait for unrest as in Paris, after which the officials will make round eyes as if the first time they knew about them and we will begin to disentangle this mess.


    Do not start. We will discuss this for a long time at all levels of government and on TV, in forums, and to make beautiful and smart statements. And then forget it until the next unrest. Authority understands only cohesion and determination.
  50. Goodmen
    Goodmen 30 July 2013 13: 30 New
    +1
    Quote: Tersky
    I begin to guess who else they need to soak so that this chaos stops. wink

    No, they won’t wet someone’s campaign. Offended - will remain without subsidies, but it is not profitable for them ... winked