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A gift for Mikhail Khodorkovsky: get it, sign it

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Part I (gift). 26 of June of the current year, Mikhail Borisovich Khodorkovsky, who is serving time for tax evasion and embezzlement on a particularly large scale in the Segega colony in Karelia, celebrated its 50th anniversary. Anniversary is a big deal. On it usually give good gifts. For obvious reasons, Mikhail Borisovich could not invite anyone to his party, but nevertheless he expected gifts. Primarily from the European Court of Human Rights from Strasbourg.


A gift for Mikhail Khodorkovsky: get it, sign it


So that in terms of gifts from France, Mikhail Borisovich, at his time, filed a complaint with the ECHR about the injustice of the Russian court, which had once passed a sentence on the so-called “first case”. The injustice, in the opinion, of the former head of YUKOS, was mainly in that the judge issued a politically motivated decision regarding him (Khodorkovsky), and therefore Mikhail Borisovich urged European judges to recognize him as a political prisoner.

The entire Russian ultra-liberal public, with bated breath, expected how, in its opinion, the most fair court in Europe recognized Khodorkovsky as a political prisoner, inflicting a crushing blow on the “Putin's evil empire” and on its leader in the first place. The ultra-liberals were already preparing a festive salad for Olivier, they trimmed the opposition banners with golden threads and made up slogans that could finally brand “this power”, but the decision of the ECHR was delayed. Already the anniversary has passed, and the salad began to turn sour, and the banners were stale ... But Mikhail Borisovich, together with his associates and supporters, were all awaiting a gift.

And the gift came from Strasbourg ... The judges of the ECHR decided to bestow Mikhail Khodorkovsky with ten thousand euros (from the Russian budget), recognizing that the Russian court together with the FSIN at certain moments went a little non-democratic way: Khodorkovsky was too far away from the family clauses on the inadmissibility of the violation of the right to private property and the inadmissibility of breach of confidentiality when communicating the defendant with his lawyers. That's all ... And where is the main gift? - a dumb question froze on the lips of Mikhail Borisovich, who at one time heated the Russian state for billions of dollars. Where is the status of a political prisoner laid for me, languishing in the dungeons of the regime? !!

But there is no such status, Mikhail Borisovich, picking up the marble floor of the ECHR with the toe of a varnished judicial boot, said the judge in Strasbourg. The court did not discern any political motivation in the case, but, having carefully studied the documents, once again came to the conclusion that there is a banal criminal act in the case - you simply made public money, esteemed Mr. Khodorkovsky, and didn’t blow ... And after they had hitched up and were under the gun of the Russian law enforcement agencies, the cunning guys from the anti-Putin flank instantly dragged their political status to your case. They say that we will enter the political paradise on this Khodorkovsky ... But once again: there is no such status in your case!

And the Olivier salad flew into the bin, the banners sewn with gilded threads rolled up into a tube, the slogans remained on unused digital media ... The anniversary was finally blurred ... The hero of the day and all those who waited for gifts for the hero of the day received a good Strasbourg slap, which was clearly not expected .

And after such a decision by the ECHR, the ranks of the ultraliberal public strongly creased and indulged in fermentation. No, you know, in the minds of those crumpled and fermented do not fit, how can that be! .. How could the most impartial court in all of mother Europe make such a decision. Well, it would be okay if it were the Moscow City Court or the Kirov court - one could shout that Vladimir Putin’s “clawed hand” reached out to the judges, took them by the throat so that the courts could not find any political background in the case. But so well, fathers are holy, the European Court of Human Rights! .. How can you? .. Not really, the very “clawed hand” of the Russian authorities reached out to Dean Spielmann, who has been the president of the ECHR since last year ...

Lyudmila Alekseeva, one of the main persons of the irreconcilable Russian opposition, cried out on this issue in good faith:

My attitude towards the ECHR decision is negative. I would say that the decision is not only soft, but also cowardly. If they did not see the political component in this process, then they have something with a vision.


That same Lyudmila Alekseeva, who just a few days ago celebrated her own 86-th birthday and also hoped to distribute "democratic gifts". Well, what to say ... Of course, Lyudmila Mikhailovna in her 86 with a vision is much better than that of the judges of the ECHR ...

And what - news! Ms. Alekseeva accuses the European Court of Human Rights of being cowardly. Apparently, in the gray matter of the ultraliberal public, the thought had already ripened that Putin had reached European judges ... How long the president’s hands are still, so long that American courts will begin to walk at such a pace ... And now Lyudmila Mikhailovna rely in his, forgive my God, human rights work? Well, literally no one else. Well at least Cardin with McCain somehow keep at all, and then in general sushi oars ...

The reasoning of the human rights activist once again proves that in Russia a surprising social stratum had emerged that a priori is not going to take into account any decisions of any courts. The judgment of God and that is obstructed and called politically motivated and sold to Vladimir Putin ... What does this prove? And it proves that people shouting and continuing to shout about the political process in relation to the oligarch Khodorkovsky are not only not familiar with the essence of the matter, but are not going to get acquainted with it. Their task is not at all in this.

The task is for Mikhail Borisovich Khodorkovsky to stay in prison as long as possible and thereby give a reason to dig under the current Russian government. As they say, all means are good in the political struggle, and if everything is good, then why not use the former head of Yukos, who has plundered billions of people's funds, as a prisoner of conscience. And then before the heap Navalny turned up, Pussy-Mushi and other adherents of world democracy. What would be a nice precedent for everyone else ...

But the judges of the European Court of Human Rights undermined the undermining, and were so frankly asleep that in the ranks of the non-systemic opposition the orientation was literally completely lost (if there was any such thing besides the jabs towards Putin). The vestibular near-political apparatus failed and now the non-system-oppository, remotely controlled mechanism turned on the spot, not understanding where the right is, where is left, where is the top, and where is the bottom ...

Well, Mikhail Borisovich will soon receive his 10 thousand euros from the Russian budget, since after Russia's entry into 1998 under the jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights, the decisions of this court of the Russian Federation have to be implemented. In general, Mikhail Borisovich is true to himself: even being in a colony, he does not miss the opportunity to run his hand into the budget ... Although this time this launch obviously will not bring him moral satisfaction.

Part II (non-giving). Catching at least for some straw, the Russian ultra-liberal publications decided to subject the ECtHR decision to interpretation. For example, on the website of Ekho Moskvy radio station on Friday, notably in 03: 03 in Moscow, a note appeared that the ECtHR allegedly decided to reconsider its decision and is ready to quote: "admit that some political groups and government officials there were reasons to prosecute the applicants. " This information was provided by Ms. Moskalenko, a lawyer. As you can see, “Echo of Moscow” and certain “pravoshchitniki” do not surrender: they say, the ECHR is simply not understood, they somehow recognize the policy in the case, but only if you look at the case upside down at an acute angle ...

Part III -? ..
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  1. Dejavu
    Dejavu 29 July 2013 06: 52 New
    28
    Happy holiday, Michael gee gee gee wassat
    1. Siberian German
      Siberian German 29 July 2013 07: 50 New
      -58
      gee gee gee - and if you ended up there or I didn’t pay taxes - a fine in the amount of property valuation and no walk, you have to produce martyrs - or are afraid that if you do this, you might come home to them
      1. PPL
        PPL 29 July 2013 08: 23 New
        29
        This is how impunity is created!
        Quote: Siberian German
        ... fine in the amount of property valuation and take a walk ...

        Only confiscation of property and work for the benefit of society in an isolated space.
      2. sanych
        sanych 29 July 2013 09: 49 New
        19
        Quote: Siberian German
        and walk

        How is this "walk" ??? belay After all, besides tax evasion, there is also embezzlement on an especially large scale! Return all stolen goods - no fines will be enough. Money parted in its mass. Rights PPZ - only confiscation and logging! Stealing billions - sit for decades !!!
        1. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 29 July 2013 12: 11 New
          13
          Quote: sanych
          ! Stealing billions - sit for decades !!!

          This p-a-d-a-l-l not only stole, at his order people were killed and more than one, but this scum, refined from itself "political" writhing, the reception of all "zh-d-o-v" .
          1. V. Salama
            V. Salama 29 July 2013 15: 30 New
            +1
            Quote: cherkas.oe
            ... now from itself "political" writhing, reception of all "zh-d-o-v"
            There is such a reception. However, here the situation is different - a thief who stole according to the rules established in the system was taken for violation of political rules, but was charged and convicted under criminal articles. This is the main thing that bothers me here. It’s the same with Navalny ..., the same with anyone and everyone - there will be no “criminal offense” (which in our conditions any company manager has) will find ammunition or nonsense and - goodbye freedom. And large thieves in witnesses and boutiques continue to go in the worst case, if they do not claim power.
            1. cherkas.oe
              cherkas.oe 30 July 2013 21: 23 New
              0
              Quote: V. Salama
              . This is the main thing that bothers me here. The same with Navalny ...,

              In the State Department, perhaps this is the same trick. A moishe with a conch of one field of berries, although the caliber and nationality are different, the tasks are the same. Yes, and you, judging by concerns about the fate of moishe and Lesha.
              1. V. Salama
                V. Salama 31 July 2013 15: 13 New
                +1
                Quote: cherkas.oe
                In the State Department, perhaps this is the same trick.

                You have beguiled me with someone, however. Or do not catch the thought. I will try, for those who are on an armored train, more specifically:
                - for me, a thief of nationality has no reason for concern about the fate of “moysha and Lesha”. Relax, your anti-Semitism prevents you from thinking sensibly. Now, theft is the most effective way to obtain property, which, according to unofficial ideology, is "above all." They steal all nationalities, especially those who have administrative resources and are close to financial flows. I hope it’s clear who I’m talking about, you’re not living on the moon. Ask yourself the question: why, when Khodor stole like everyone else, everything was normal and unpunishable, and as soon as he didn’t want to abide by a political agreement, was he immediately punished for this theft?
                Why does the small (relatively well-known to us) economic dirty teller Navalny (call me the damage that he is charged with and the real damage, I think you are mistaken here) is such a deadline? And it would also not bother anyone if the authorities had not criticized.
                If this does not bother you, then I do not envy us and our children.
                Quote: cherkas.oe
                A moishe with a conch of one field of berries, although the caliber and nationality are different, the tasks are the same.

                We won’t talk about tasks; it’s not visible to you. Learn to understand the written first.
      3. Canep
        Canep 29 July 2013 09: 53 New
        +5
        No fines! He will officially get a low-paid job (like Mavrodi) and will pay this fine for 10000 years, or even more.
        A THIEF SHOULD SIT IN JAIL!
        It would not be bad if he was released from the jail only when what he stole at the logging site works.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 29 July 2013 09: 07 New
      +8
      Quote: Volodin Alexey
      Part III -? ..


      Of course, I would like to continue, because Khodorkovsky is very much not alone in striving to profit at the expense of citizens who, until recently, did not even know what such a fur store
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 29 July 2013 10: 10 New
        +6
        Where is the status of a political prisoner languishing in the dungeons of the regime? !!

        “But there is no such status, Mikhail Borisovich, picking up the marble floor of the ECHR with the toe of a varnished judge’s shoe, said the judge in Strasbourg. The court did not see any political motivation in the case, but, having carefully examined the documents, once again came to the conclusion that there is no matter what the banal criminality is - you simply trotted state money, dear Mr. Khodorkovsky, and you didn’t blow a whisk ... "- that’s just banal crime and nothing more. Only one question - where are the rest of the landings?
        1. kris
          kris 29 July 2013 10: 26 New
          +5
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          Only one question - where are the rest of the landings?

          this is what gives this case political status!
          And to remove this status is easy - move the first hundred of the Russian Forbes list to Khodorkovsky.
          1. cherkas.oe
            cherkas.oe 29 July 2013 12: 16 New
            +5
            Quote: kris
            And to remove this status is easy - move the first hundred of the Russian Forbes list to Khodorkovsky.
            И
            then to make this day festive in Russia and name it “Victory Day over the Forbes list in Russia”. good
    3. Constantine
      Constantine 29 July 2013 15: 09 New
      +5
      He was waiting for strange gifts) He had to give him a couple of blocks of cigarettes, soap, as well as a harmonica with the engraving “From Strasbourg with Love” smile
  2. studentmati
    studentmati 29 July 2013 07: 08 New
    -19
    Michael, you fight by the law !!!! Far from the most progressive example for other sitters and time! You know this very well !!!! And your motivations are known to all! You deserve respect !!! good
    1. S-200
      S-200 29 July 2013 07: 35 New
      17
      I read and cried! crying
      Woe is WHAT - the oligarch in prison ....
      Will we survive"ordinary Russians" WITHOUT THEM, if a dozen are another of these "prisoners of conscience" will be permanently located in places not so distant?
      wassat
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 29 July 2013 07: 38 New
        -2
        Quote: S-200
        I read and cried! crying
        Woe is WHAT - the oligarch in prison ....
        wassat


        From prisons and sums do not renounce ....
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 29 July 2013 07: 50 New
          16
          Quote: studentmati
          From prisons and sums do not renounce ....

          Are you not a relative of Hodor for an hour?
          1. studentmati
            studentmati 29 July 2013 08: 02 New
            -5
            A proverb for everyone. Tfu-tfu-tfu !!!
          2. studentmati
            studentmati 29 July 2013 23: 01 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Are you not a relative of Hodor for an hour?


            Life is like that ....
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        4. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 29 July 2013 12: 20 New
          +5
          Quote: studentmati
          From prisons and sums do not renounce ....

          Do you have some fun? And don’t steal, don’t kill, ..... and so on. wink
      2. fartfraer
        fartfraer 29 July 2013 08: 22 New
        -1
        "Will we survive -" ordinary Russians "WITHOUT THEM, if a dozen or two of these" prisoners of conscience "are permanently located in places not so distant?" unfortunately only those attempting to inflict power are planted, but in general I agree with you, it’s time to ask where the current rich get from
        1. S-200
          S-200 29 July 2013 08: 40 New
          0
          Quote: fartfraer
          it's time to ask where the "rich capital" of the current rich

          "For demand - do not hit in the nose!" ASK !! laughing
          1. fartfraer
            fartfraer 29 July 2013 08: 43 New
            +1
            appreciated your humor) truth to C grade. to ask such things the work of state bodies
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 July 2013 07: 50 New
      17
      Quote: studentmati
      Michael, you fight by the law!

      Quote: studentmati
      You are worthy of respect !!!

      By law, this is when he hired a kilnrov and solved his problems, you probably about it wink
      Worthy of respect, but worthy of a thieves shkonka, the dough will unfasten in the common fund and thieves pat him on the head. They say well done parashnik, hold candy laughing
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 29 July 2013 08: 07 New
        -16
        Michael, I may be mistaken, but this man is a law, albeit corrupt, but he is trying to observe ..., for the sake of us ordinary people ....
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 29 July 2013 10: 46 New
          10
          Quote: studentmati
          Mikhail, I may be mistaken, but this man is a law, albeit a corrupt one, but he is trying to keep watch ..

          Hahaha and legally grabbed billions laughing
          Quote: studentmati
          for the sake of us ordinary gatherers ....

          Oh how, that in the kalonia the Internet was already spent wink
          1. studentmati
            studentmati 29 July 2013 23: 00 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Oh how that in kalonia the Internet was already spent wink


            Quail - there is such a bird ...
        2. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 29 July 2013 12: 24 New
          +5
          Quote: studentmati
          but this man

          What kind of man is he? He’s a bog and a swindler.
      2. aksakal
        aksakal 29 July 2013 08: 18 New
        +9
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        According to the law, this is when he hired killers and solved his problems, you probably deserve respect, but worth the thieves, the dough will be unfastened and the thieves will pat him on the head.

        - Or squeezed out the residents of the "unsuccessfully" located Moscow apartment building from the houses - also quite according to the law. And I wish the student’s mother that they too would meet him at the entrance of a pumped-up peasant, send greetings from a certain Mikhail and ask him to move out of his own apartment every evening,
        Quote: studentmati
        Michael, you fight by the law !!!!

        as it comes true, so gloating, although this is not good. But at the moment, it’s just students who gloat over the victims of the hodor
  3. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 29 July 2013 07: 13 New
    +7
    Primarily from the European Court of Human Rights from Strasbourg.

    But the lawyers came up with an excuse - he just did something, got a sentence, immediately complaints to the Strasbourg court ... human rights were violated. I, as I understand it, A MAJOR VIOLATION OF RIGHTS IN THAT (so far the truth is only occasionally still, I would like to hope for more) THIS ORDERING DEMOCRATOR FOR DEMOCRACY WERE NOT ALLOWED UNLAWNED TO STEAL !!!
    And to the West, just give a reason to growl at RUSSIA ... they are right there ... including the courts!
  4. omsbon
    omsbon 29 July 2013 07: 23 New
    +7
    The same Lyudmila Alekseeva, who just a few days ago celebrated her 86th birthday and also hoped for the distribution of “democratic gifts”

    In the next world, this woman-yaga, they are looking for with flashlights, I hope they will find it soon!

    Judging by the photograph, the administration gave the birthday man a hat and a padded jacket!
  5. knn54
    knn54 29 July 2013 07: 27 New
    +5
    -Where is the status of a political prisoner assigned to me.
    Today is not the 37th year ... And what’s interesting, ANY thief, feeling the approach of reckoning, immediately "leaves" in Politics.
  6. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 29 July 2013 07: 33 New
    +3
    The mood in Europe changed ... but Misha did not expect this.
    Quote: omsbon
    Judging by the photograph, the administration gave the birthday man a hat and a padded jacket!
    - "sidekick" podsuyutsya ..
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 29 July 2013 09: 21 New
      +9
      Quote: Valery Neon
      The mood in Europe has changed.


      Feel the difference in terms given in the West and ours. Misha was lucky that he stole here.


      The federal court of the US state of Virginia was sentenced to 30 years in prison by the former head of one of the largest US mortgage companies Taylor, Bean & Whitaker Mortgage Corp. (TBW) Lee Bentley Farkas for organizing the largest mortgage fraud in US history.
      Bernard Madoff, a former financial manager and Wall Street tycoon, was sentenced on June 29, 2009 to 150 years in prison without the right to parole, for organizing a $ 65 billion financial pyramid.
      Ken Lei, CEO and chairman of the energy company Enron, is well known for his role in the corruption-fraud scandal that led to the company's collapse. In 2002, he was charged with 11 points of securities fraud, in 2006 he was found guilty of 10 of them, according to experts, this threatened him with a sentence of up to 30 years in prison. He died on vacation three and a half months before sentencing
      Jeffrey Skilling, a former Enron CEO, was convicted in 2006 on several counts related to the financial collapse of an energy trader. A 24-year prison sentence is currently serving.
      Bernie Ebbers, co-founder and former CEO of Worldcom telecommunications company, who has been convicted of the largest (to date) accounting fraud in US history. Due to falsified financial statements, investors lost $ 11 billion. A 25-year prison sentence is serving.
      Dennis Kozlowski, former executive director of the Tyco conglomerate, was found guilty of embezzlement of more than $ 400 million from the company's funds. Currently serving a term in prison, he should serve at least eight years and four months.
      Martin Frenkel, a former financier, was convicted in 2002 on charges of insurance fraud ($ 208 million), racketeering and money laundering.
      James Lewis was convicted and sentenced to 30 years in prison for creating a financial pyramid. She acted for more than 20 years, he collected about 311 million dollars from investors - many of whom were elderly people, promising high incomes. He spent money on a luxurious life for himself and his friends, for the purchase of expensive houses and cars. Lewis was caught after being declared wanted by the FBI.

      Lou Perlman, the former leader of the well-known American groups Backstreet Boys and 'N'Sync, organized a pyramid, after which more than $ 300 million of debt remained. For more than 20 years, he has been persuading banks and individuals to invest in Trans Continental Airlines Travel Services Inc. and Trans Continental Airlines Inc., which existed only on paper. In 2008, after being convicted on charges of conspiracy, money laundering and false testimony, he was sentenced to 25 years in prison.
      Tom Petters was sentenced to 50 years in prison for organizing a $ 3,65 billion pyramid scheme, the scheme included as a cover for the company’s purchase
  7. Sirocco
    Sirocco 29 July 2013 07: 36 New
    +7
    The entire Russian ultra-liberal public, with bated breath, expected the fairest court in Europe to recognize Khodorkovsky as a political prisoner, inflicting a crushing blow on the “Putin evil empire”
    I recall the words from a song from the early 80s. They held all their breaths, someone should take off their underpants. But no, the cowards were not removed, and it wasn’t possible to put a new symbol of ultra-liberals on the shaft. lol And Mrs. Alekseeva reminds Baba Yaga who is always against. What is this US citizen doing with us?
  8. morpogr
    morpogr 29 July 2013 07: 52 New
    +3
    The liberals did not expect such an answer from that and such an inconsistent cry. Now, at the time, they should sing Bear Bear where your smile is full of enthusiasm and fire.
  9. makst83
    makst83 29 July 2013 07: 52 New
    +4
    from bell to bell Mikhail Borisovich!
    1. mivmim
      mivmim 29 July 2013 17: 29 New
      +3
      "from call to call Mikhail Borisovich! "
      And this is only the beginning ..........
  10. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 29 July 2013 07: 53 New
    +4
    Happy anniversary! wink Wait for replenishment.
  11. sergey72
    sergey72 29 July 2013 07: 59 New
    +3
    To paraphrase the classic: .. sit Misha, sit ..... laughing
  12. pensioner
    pensioner 29 July 2013 08: 08 New
    +5
    The same Lyudmila Alekseeva, who just a few days ago celebrated her 86th birthday
    It’s time already, it’s time to go to the churchyard. You are healed, you are healed. Truancy already put in the cemetery. And the devils were waiting ...
  13. Brummbar
    Brummbar 29 July 2013 08: 08 New
    +1
    What a blow to the Leberast circles. Gee gee gee.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 29 July 2013 11: 17 New
      +3
      Quote: Brummbar
      What a blow to leberast circles

      What a blow? Some pluses from sitting Hodor.
      1. Someone got rid of a business competitor.
      2. Yukos smoothly transferred to the assets of Russian-British Rosneft.
      3. Liberal small things feed on "political prisoner"
      For the whole broad liberal front, from the powers that be to the "human rights defenders," the best option is for the Misha to sit for life. So he sits. It’s a pity that one.
  14. ABV
    ABV 29 July 2013 08: 08 New
    +1
    Why are the media silent? Why don't we shout - as the fairest court in Geyropa does not see the political component?
    is it a good time to quench the "five-columners"?
  15. George
    George 29 July 2013 08: 10 New
    +1
    Yes, laughed heartily good
  16. pensioner
    pensioner 29 July 2013 08: 11 New
    +1
    Chic article !! Thanks a lot to Alexey !! Got a great pleasure!
  17. polly
    polly 29 July 2013 08: 14 New
    0
    If they were to leave this "jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights", then there would be nothing! Any walking relics would be squealed again, and they would have calmed down ...
  18. valokordin
    valokordin 29 July 2013 08: 19 New
    +5
    Let's not frankly gloat, Khorkovsky is still the bastard on whom the gallows cry, how many human lives are on his bloody hands. The fact that the court verdict is recognized as fair, we must admit for granted, but the question is why this sentence is selective, and why others are not in jail ?, what is not 37 years old ?.
    1. PPL
      PPL 29 July 2013 08: 39 New
      +1
      The "impartiality" of our courts has already become a byword.
    2. zart_arn
      zart_arn 29 July 2013 08: 43 New
      +1
      I agree, Vladimir, the thief should be in prison. The political commitment of this event lies precisely in the fact that it is necessary to plant all those guilty, and not to act selectively, as we do.
  19. Egoza
    Egoza 29 July 2013 08: 30 New
    +7
    "since after Russia's entry into 1998 under the jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights, the decisions of this court of the Russian Federation are forced to comply."

    But something else interests me ... Well, they entered the 1998 year under the jurisdiction of the European Court, and leave in the foreseeable future? Will not work? But it would be worth it! I just can’t come to terms with the fact that some European court dictates to us HOW OUR THIERS NEED TO JUDGE! Is this not interference in the internal affairs of the country? Isn't it time to send ... fighters and fighters for human rights?
    1. report4
      report4 29 July 2013 11: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Egoza
      "since after Russia's entry into 1998 under the jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights, the decisions of this court of the Russian Federation are forced to comply."

      But something else interests me ... Well, they entered the 1998 year under the jurisdiction of the European Court, and leave in the foreseeable future? Will not work? But it would be worth it! I just can’t come to terms with the fact that some European court dictates to us HOW OUR THIERS NEED TO JUDGE! Is this not interference in the internal affairs of the country? Isn't it time to send ... fighters and fighters for human rights?

      As far as I know, fines for cases are not paid.
  20. ed65b
    ed65b 29 July 2013 08: 34 New
    +4
    I was always annoyed by the ease with which fines are imposed on Russia. To pay, this, our staff has already made a fortune on this. As another ban on a gamepair, Russia pays a fine. Nah send all the courts of the world. With what should their judicial law be higher than ours. I do not understand.
  21. pensioner
    pensioner 29 July 2013 09: 08 New
    +2
    Quote: makst83
    from bell to bell Mikhail Borisovich!

    Toko after the third, after the third ...
  22. mejik
    mejik 29 July 2013 09: 16 New
    +2
    Quote: retired
    Chic article !! Thanks a lot to Alexey !! Got a great pleasure!

    I join your “Thank you very much” with my “Thank you very much” for the sarcasm so beloved by me from the lips of Alexei. Well written, nice to read. As they say: do not decrease, do not add. Thanks again!
  23. 12345
    12345 29 July 2013 09: 35 New
    +5
    Luda’s methods (“-mila” - well, it doesn’t fit in either the literal or figurative sense) of Alekseeva and her foes: “If the truth is just that, then it is all the worse for the truth.”

    PS. In fact, Mr. Khodorkovsky is not some kind of “tweezers in a big way” thread, it has BLOOD on it. To raise the “Mokrushnik” to the banner of the op-position is the height of cynicism. Or, to the "God's chosen" - nothing can stick simply "by definition"?
  24. Isk1984
    Isk1984 29 July 2013 10: 09 New
    +7
    Yes, Khodorkovsky is sitting and doing his own thing, but the problem is that he was not imprisoned for violating the law, but for refusing to move to cut an oil cake, that after planting it was GOOD FOR ALL OF US. with his mouth and ... in his pocket, nothing has changed for us, there next to him on the same bunk, and Chubais and Abramoyich, and Aven and Deripaska, Vekselberg with Usmanov should sit, but they haven’t been planted something .. So rejoice For the fact that he sits for me, for example, there is nothing ... Yes, he already served his own ...
  25. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 29 July 2013 10: 14 New
    -11
    I don’t know the whole truth, but the law is easy, the oil workers say that it was better for them under Khodorkovsky, that is: equipment, a salary, and even taking Yukos's work clothes, it surpasses rotten Rosneft in quality so I believe that he is a victim of politics.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 29 July 2013 14: 52 New
      +3
      were still at school - there is a reason, there is a reason
      the reason for the “hodor” case is really politics, theft.
      although it is a pity that it was simply impossible to beat it with an ice ax, it would be just right after his proposals on Russian nuclear weapons

      p / s / when the same s of their gangster could not put for a criminal offense, put for tax evasion
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 29 July 2013 17: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: soldier's grandson
      oil workers say

      and what’s written on the fence
      1. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 29 July 2013 17: 54 New
        -2
        You understand the fences better than people, but your comment is not the topic.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 29 July 2013 17: 58 New
          +1
          extremely interesting how can you know what and how I understand? !!
          Hodor was put on trial, if at the time they had also planted a spotted and a drunk, you look and the Union would have saved, and not planted the hodor, it is possible that Rossi would have gone, he had those plans
          1. soldier's grandson
            soldier's grandson 29 July 2013 18: 06 New
            -3
            and what were his plans? but now the plans are even better? gold goes to international banks, red-haired tolian lives well, Abromovich also, and hard workers go for a penny in Rosneft.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 29 July 2013 18: 09 New
              +1
              Quote: soldier's grandson
              and what were his plans?

              including Rossi’s complete rejection of nuclear weapons
              Quote: soldier's grandson
              and in Rosneft, hard workers go for a penny.

              I'm sorry you yourself where the "bull" ?!
              1. soldier's grandson
                soldier's grandson 29 July 2013 18: 14 New
                -3
                nowhere, but how could the president of an oil company solve the problem of nuclear weapons. he has other functions
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 29 July 2013 18: 21 New
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                  Quote: soldier's grandson
                  nowhere

                  then dear unemployed leave your fantasies on the topic of wages in various industries, and even less about the quality of workwear
                  Quote: soldier's grandson
                  and how could the president of an oil company solve the problem of nuclear weapons. he has other functions

                  boy, before you rush into the discussion, at least learn something on the topic.
                  1. soldier's grandson
                    soldier's grandson 29 July 2013 18: 28 New
                    -3
                    I know for sure about the salary at Rosneft, and I tested the quality of the workwear myself, you’d better talk to those who worked in Yukos and work at Rosneft, I mean simple hard workers, and as for Khodorkovsky, I think he’s not a member of the gdp team and sat on a pipe, the stool doing the business turned out to be innocent
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 29 July 2013 20: 26 New
                      -1
                      Well, just say the tariff schedule
                      Quote: soldier's grandson
                      and I tested the quality of workwear

                      How, what product samples were tested?
                      Quote: soldier's grandson
                      he is not a man from the gdp team and was sitting on a pipe
                      Well, actually, his landing occurred just after his specific actions and the utterance was completely unrelated to oil production
                      1. soldier's grandson
                        soldier's grandson 29 July 2013 20: 47 New
                        +1
                        it’s enough to blame the year of one and the other for yourself, that is, to work in them and you can verify the quality of the samples
                      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 29 July 2013 21: 30 New
                        -1
                        not enough
                        you need to compare the cost, the norms for issuing special clothes, you are not knowing all these data trying to talk
                      3. soldier's grandson
                        soldier's grandson 29 July 2013 21: 35 New
                        +1
                        the hard worker does not care about the cost of overalls, the rate of delivery, you are far from reality, but I know which overalls and which are good in working conditions, the quality of overalls and not the price the company pays for a person
                      4. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 29 July 2013 22: 07 New
                        0
                        you ridiculously argue, "a hard worker is not important," you will forgive at least one day, at least lead a small department, and then you will pretend to be a specialist.
                        as soon as the hard worker pays for the special out of his pocket, he will immediately become interested in the cost and everything else
                      5. soldier's grandson
                        soldier's grandson 29 July 2013 22: 16 New
                        +1
                        According to the law, overalls are issued free of charge.
                      6. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 29 July 2013 22: 17 New
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                        kindly link to the law
                      7. soldier's grandson
                        soldier's grandson 29 July 2013 22: 24 New
                        -1
                        do you need it? find it yourself
                      8. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 29 July 2013 22: 34 New
                        0
                        you don’t expose yourself to be an idiot at all, you have declared in black and white that, according to the law, you should give out for free.
                        Well, bring an article of the law to which you deigned to refer.
                        By the way, from the point of view of the law, if you use the overalls not for their intended purpose, but for personal purposes, then this is your direct income and tax must be paid from it
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 29 July 2013 20: 26 New
        0
        Well, just say the tariff schedule
        Quote: soldier's grandson
        and I tested the quality of workwear

        How, what product samples were tested?
        Quote: soldier's grandson
        he is not a man from the gdp team and was sitting on a pipe
        Well, actually, his landing occurred just after his specific actions and the utterance was completely unrelated to oil production
  • Sasha
    Sasha 30 July 2013 19: 32 New
    0
    but who in general are interested in plans ..... the rule works fine - there would be a person and there would be an article for him. and feeding the horror story to the masses is not a problem at all
  • 128mgb
    128mgb 29 July 2013 10: 27 New
    +2
    Lyudmila Alekseeva, one of the main persons of the irreconcilable Russian opposition, cried out on this issue in good faith:
    Ay Author, ah well done !!! Thank you, I laughed heartily.
  • Letterksi
    Letterksi 29 July 2013 10: 48 New
    +3
    There was only one question. Like a fish needs a bicycle? What for Russia the ECHR and Lyudmila Alekseeva? Can they just be left both in EuroSodom and AmeroGommor? Or can’t you do without an aspen stake?


    PS
    Khodorkovsky let him sit yes
  • Alyoha
    Alyoha 29 July 2013 12: 09 New
    +2
    Khodorkovsky murderer, on it is the blood of more than one person, so he must sit for life. And you're talking about some notorious tax evasion.
  • Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 29 July 2013 12: 15 New
    +2
    For obvious reasons, Mikhail Borisovich could not invite anyone to his place, but, nevertheless, he was expecting gifts.
    Many “worthy” people still go free! Their landing would be a gift for Mikhail Borisovich. hi
    1. Letterksi
      Letterksi 29 July 2013 22: 00 New
      0
      It would be time to pass with someone, but to talk heart to heart drinks over a cup of chifir
  • Nogicune
    Nogicune 29 July 2013 12: 33 New
    0
    Quote: soldier's grandson
    I don’t know the whole truth, but the law is easy, the oil workers say that it was better for them under Khodorkovsky, that is: equipment, a salary, and even taking Yukos's work clothes, it surpasses rotten Rosneft in quality so I believe that he is a victim of politics.

    I want to write the same in support of Khodorkovsky, I’m not an oilman, I graduated from the chemical engineering college in front of the army, in the 99th I was demobilized and immediately got a job in Yukos, in a laboratory in the ecology department, so the salary of Yukos workers was the lowest in the region, plus every month the prize is half the salary, every quarter the prize is one and a half salaries, for every even small significant holiday, like a chemist’s day, an oilman’s day, the premium is at least a third of the salary, the dental office at the tank farm was such that I still haven’t seen better, there, not only workers but also members of their families treated their teeth for free, there was a social support program, huge amounts went to the regional budget, cultural programs were funded, etc. and so on, now there’s nothing of this, of course I didn’t read the criminal case (by the way, after the army I studied at the law school in absentia, also thanks in large part to Yukos), but to blame that Khodarkovsky made money on ordinary people and to keep silent as much as he did was somewhat cynical
    1. 12345
      12345 29 July 2013 13: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Nogicune
      ... but blaming that Khodarkovsky profited from ordinary people and being silent as much as he did was somewhat cynical


      By the way, a certain Adolf Hitler, too, at one time, for ordinary Germans, “-”, how much he did a lot of good (free medicine, education, resorts, etc.).

      AND WHAT? Forgive Adolfica?
      1. Nogicune
        Nogicune 29 July 2013 15: 08 New
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        I didn’t say about forgiveness, and the comparison with Adolfik does not seem to you too much
        1. 12345
          12345 29 July 2013 17: 20 New
          +1
          Quote: Nogicune
          I didn’t say about forgiveness, and the comparison with Adolfik does not seem to you too much


          Not at all.


          If Adolfika were on time and, most importantly, closed for a long time, you see, he would have remained in history a harmless painter of mediocre landscapes.

          As well as it is not known what the former "ideological Komsomol leader" would have done if he had received the authority of the "Führer". One thing can be stated very definitely: Khodorkovsky has criminal inclinations. And he showed them.

          And no matter how the tribesmen howled - he sits absolutely deservedly. Notice - he sits, although earlier, in less than a tenth of the small amount of what he did - he would be guaranteed to be shot.
          And that would be more fair. After all, you will not return those killed by his order, and he will soon come out, and by no means an old man, and will continue to enjoy the joys of life.
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 29 July 2013 12: 41 New
    +2
    Lyudmila Alekseeva is a US citizen, in such cases, the article must indicate in brackets the name in English transcription (Ludmila Alekseeva). This is customary to do because mistakes are made when writing English names in Russian. Or for example, there is such a well-known "politician" and an American citizen (Garry Kasparov), but there is a famous chess player Garry Kasparov, let's not get confused.
  • saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 29 July 2013 12: 44 New
    -5
    I would like to ask the author what relation the Khodorkovsky case has to Military Review?
    1. kush62
      kush62 30 July 2013 04: 59 New
      +1
      I would like to ask the author what relation the Khodorkovsky case has to Military Review?

      Hodor is not only a big thief, like many above, but also a traitor to the Motherland. And the site, oddly enough, is patriotic.
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 29 July 2013 12: 52 New
    -4
    Quote: saturn.mmm
    I would like to ask the author what relation the Khodorkovsky case has to Military Review?

    Is politics related to military affairs? has, then the topic is political
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 29 July 2013 15: 50 New
      0
      Quote: soldier's grandson
      Is politics related to military affairs?

      So do you think the Khodorkovsky case is political?
      Theft, tax evasion and criminality is politics?
      The European Court of Human Rights considered the case non-political.
  • OCD
    OCD 29 July 2013 12: 53 New
    +3
    To Misha’s anniversary is a gift, Taburetkin’s visit with his “female battalion” is 25 years old, and after them all the rest is a crook.
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 29 July 2013 12: 59 New
    -4
    Quote: UBOP
    To Misha’s anniversary is a gift, Taburetkin’s visit with his “female battalion” is 25 years old, and after them all the rest is a crook.

    then you need to start the election, then who will rule the country?
  • Anastasios
    Anastasios 29 July 2013 13: 05 New
    +3
    I once heard one anecdote:

    The young KGB lieutenant met with the daughter of the KGB General, the wedding was in progress ...
    The lieutenant general summons and says, so they say, and so, since you and your daughter will have a family, go to London. There you will play the role of a young millionaire, litter with money, buy yachts, Houses, Palaces, make friends ... In about 30 years we will contact you.
    The joyful Letenant told this at a party with friends and added that he didn’t need this terrible daughter now and as soon as he was in London he would leave her ...
    Someone told the general ...
    The next morning he calls Letenanta and says:
    "Listen ... The legend is changing ... You are an old one-eyed pida.ras and you live in London under a bridge ..."

    Doesn't remind anyone of the situation: Abromovich & Khodorkovsky?
  • LM66
    LM66 29 July 2013 13: 56 New
    -1
    Quote: soldier's grandson
    Is politics related to military affairs? has, then the topic is political

    Well, they themselves proved that he sits for politics smile
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 29 July 2013 14: 01 New
    -1
    Quote: 12345
    Quote: Nogicune
    ... but blaming that Khodarkovsky profited from ordinary people and being silent as much as he did was somewhat cynical


    By the way, a certain Adolf Hitler, too, at one time, for ordinary Germans, “-”, how much he did a lot of good (free medicine, education, resorts, etc.).

    AND WHAT? Forgive Adolfica?

    you are talking about completely different people, what does adolf have to do with it? the topic is about the oil pipe
    1. 12345
      12345 29 July 2013 14: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: soldier's grandson
      you are talking about completely different people, what does adolf have to do with it? the topic is about the oil pipe


      Come on? About "the oil pipe," say - and only that?

      And I thought - about the offender, whose attempts to pay off (moreover, it doesn’t matter - before people or before God), and so, attempts to pay off - by no means atone for the whole gravity of the crimes committed and, moreover, do not cancel the responsibility for their commission.
      1. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 29 July 2013 15: 08 New
        -2
        Well then, they would add that he is the face of our elite
        1. 12345
          12345 29 July 2013 17: 26 New
          -2
          Quote: soldier's grandson
          Well then, they would add that he is the face of our elite


          Doomsday Wars soldier grandson? Or a “seven-day war”?

          Then it really is the face of your very top.
          1. soldier's grandson
            soldier's grandson 29 July 2013 17: 35 New
            0
            But what do you change the flag of? I am the grandson of a Russian soldier, and you see the grandson of a fagot or mattress.
            1. 12345
              12345 30 July 2013 11: 54 New
              0
              You are obviously the grandson of the "Gus" soldier. From you Zionism-a mile away. This is stronger than you, no matter how you try to disguise yourself: “sewed - you cannot hide in a bag” ©
              A subtle but vivid proof of this is your mouse-colored shoulder strap.

              And, here is my grandfather - died at that very "Great Patriotic War". Moreover, unlike you, the "chosen ones" who are ready to make an advertisement for themselves on anything, it is not customary for us, for all the rest, for non-Jews, to disturb the blessed memory of heroes once again. This Victory has come at too much cost, practically all of these memories are associated with unfaithful fathers, brothers, grandfathers ...

              "There is no such family in Russia,
              Where his hero was not remembered ... "©

              And finally, about the flag. My flag is from Kazakhstan, but the fact that it sometimes becomes "mustachio-striped" is the grimaces of providers, nothing more.
              However, to find fault with such things is a very characteristic feature among the "God-chosen." However, traditions ...
              1. soldier's grandson
                soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 15: 44 New
                0
                you were the first to show disrespect to me, and again the second time, I’m the Russian ancestors of the Don Cossacks, my grandfather went to camps after the war, like many who worked in intelligence, so it’s useless to rub yourself against me
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 30 July 2013 18: 04 New
                  0
                  Quote: soldier's grandson
                  like many who worked in intelligence

                  Do you have statistics on scouts?
                  1. soldier's grandson
                    soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 19: 12 New
                    -1
                    again you are a lover of links, statistics, points, yes there is but not about your honor
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 30 July 2013 19: 25 New
                      0
                      it’s just when the examples are given on the basis of the principle “one, two, a lot”, to put it mildly, it already tires.
                      you calmly declare "... went through the camps as did many who worked in intelligence ..."
                      so please be kind enough to prove it, or, frankly, it’s tired, then hundreds of millions of tortured, then more than died, they died on the front.
                      can’t prove silent silently in a rag
                      1. soldier's grandson
                        soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 19: 32 New
                        0
                        you yourself don’t know what you want and what you want to know, I’m not going to prove anything to you, I only know what he told me a bit scanty from his life without links of articles and points, you see that I communicate with your relatives and people by paragraphs and links, I don’t envy
                      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 30 July 2013 20: 24 New
                        0
                        Quote: soldier's grandson
                        I'm not going to prove anything to you

                        but you can’t prove anything and you can’t, except for the words you don’t have anything, and your words are not confirmed by anything and do not rely on anything
                        Quote: soldier's grandson
                        you see and at home on paragraphs and links communicate I do not envy your loved ones

                        leave what you have no idea
                      3. soldier's grandson
                        soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 20: 31 New
                        0
                        in fact, you don’t have any concept, for all the time you yourself have not proved anything, why are you even present here?
            2. 12345
              12345 30 July 2013 21: 24 New
              -1
              Quote: soldier's grandson
              ... I am the Russian ancestors of the Don Cossacks ...


              ... mother is Jewish, came to visit her father’s relatives? From Israel?

              And, perhaps, the same - and write from Israel? Replacing an IP-schnick is not such a difficult task today.

              You can "beat yourself with your heels in the chest" arbitrarily, proving what kind of "Russian" you are, but many of the Tatars, Bashkirs, Kazakhs, Circassians and many other peoples of the former friendly USSR present at this forum are much more Russian than you.

              You, "amiable", are also confused in cases, moreover, with a very specific "accent."

              In general, the number of "shtrishk" that issue you - rolls over. I will not list everything.

              Or maybe you are from a special Jewish Cossacks?
              There’s even a song about you, it’s called "The Jewish Cossacks rose" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhhjN_Sd2oI)
              1. soldier's grandson
                soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 21: 29 New
                0
                I don’t know, I haven’t heard about the Jewish Cossacks, but why did you get the idea that I am a Jew?
                1. 12345
                  12345 30 July 2013 21: 49 New
                  -1
                  Quote: soldier's grandson
                  but why did you get the idea that I am a Jew?


                  Wait a minute !!! That you - corrected a mask?

                  How do you communicate with Vasilenko Vladimir "famously" there?

                  Quote: soldier's grandson
                  I'm not going to prove anything to you


                  Or, regarding the link declared by itself:

                  Quote: soldier's grandson
                  do you need it? find it yourself


                  Well, and about the "Jewish mother", therefore - do not deny ...
                  Yes it is - too obvious.
                  1. soldier's grandson
                    soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 22: 00 New
                    -1
                    I just took the method of communication of that Vasilenko, and the topic was on the quality of workwear, but you have not proved, give a link, a point on the basis of which I am a Jew. and my mother is Russian
                  2. 12345
                    12345 30 July 2013 22: 30 New
                    -1
                    Once, a certain Gusinsky confessed with a blue eye: "Like every Jew, I have two hearts - one belongs to the country in which I was born, the other to Israel." (http://jn.com.ua/Interview/gusinsky_810.html)

                    This, of course, is common Jewish cunning and the trick is that it is very difficult for a Jew to hide his disregard for everything non-Jewish. Including the host country.
                    This neglect is a necessary component of Jewry. Without it, a Jew is in great danger of ceasing to be a Jew. It is crushed literally from early childhood. Two sides of the same coin. If you are the “chosen one,” then everyone else is “alas and ah!”

                    You have this feature is visible "without glasses." In the mass of different "bars" of your behavior. Is it clear now?
                  3. soldier's grandson
                    soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 22: 49 New
                    0
                    you know Jewish more than me from you; I learn Jewish songs, sayings, so your evidence is emptiness. you just proved that you are a Jew yourself, and you have a nickname of 12345, you read my comments poorly, there I said that I was a hard worker, and where did you see a hard worker a Jew? so that goodbye is one, two, tgi, four, five
                  4. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 30 July 2013 22: 56 New
                    0
                    Quote: soldier's grandson
                    there I said that I was a hard worker

                    and where do you work?
                  5. soldier's grandson
                    soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 22: 58 New
                    0
                    temporarily nowhere
                  6. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 30 July 2013 23: 11 New
                    0
                    and before "temporarily nowhere" where and by whom?
                  7. soldier's grandson
                    soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 23: 15 New
                    0
                    a carrier in a vacuum cleaner in the oil industry, a shift in construction of houses, in the repair of drilling equipment, in the cutting of marble and granite
                  8. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 30 July 2013 23: 30 New
                    0
                    that is, no one and no where, no knowledge or profession - the younger creeping
                  9. soldier's grandson
                    soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 23: 32 New
                    0
                    none of your business, and who do you work with?
                  10. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 31 July 2013 00: 06 New
                    0
                    I am a farmer, I breed goats
                  11. soldier's grandson
                    soldier's grandson 31 July 2013 00: 11 New
                    0
                    and where do you take the goats? Then what are you arguing with me? No profession, you have no knowledge.
                  12. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 31 July 2013 00: 20 New
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                    Quote: soldier's grandson
                    and where do you take the goats

                    what does it mean where?
                    Quote: soldier's grandson
                    Then what are you arguing with me? No profession, you have no knowledge.

                    boy, I have at least 4 working specialties of three engineering, in addition I can teach physics and mathematics in high school (I graduated from the physics department of the university)
                    in order to replace you in your "professions" I need from a couple of hours to a week, but that jerk you can’t replace me even after a year
  • 12345
    12345 30 July 2013 23: 27 New
    -1
    So you don’t love your country at all because you love Israel so much?

    But ...

    Then the situation is even worse. As you already hate your country, it’s easy to instill ideas of destruction from the side.

    Which, in general, has already taken place in 1917. Simple, "intelligible" slogans among poorly educated, but aggressive people - unleashed a fratricidal civil war.

    What is not Syria? Just that, "Alla, I'm in the bar!" they didn’t scream, but, here they shed blood - unmeasured.

    Then your leader is Mr. Zhirinovsky. Its specially for people like you built. His specialty is “clown-lightning rod”, and he, admittedly, a man, is not very stupid.

    Sorry if you saw malicious intent in your dense narrow-mindedness. And - do not be offended by this. If your case is not clinical, you can get over it pretty quickly. Self-education is a very fascinating "weight." Although quite "stressful", if not a habit. I wish you, at a minimum, stop being a "hard worker" and become a (high) class worker. Good luck

    PS. I have an uncle all his life, in the north, worked as a DRIVER, mind you - not a "carrier." High-class mechanic. It can diagnose by ear. We respect and appreciate both drivers and superiors.
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 23: 38 New
    -2
    I don’t have a leader at all, and I consider myself a patriot of Russia more than you, who will scream hooray under any authority, we’re happy you’re just a short-sighted putinoid, and as for Khodor, I’ll tell me a little about it, it’s a showdown, but you need to think more about people
  • 12345
    12345 31 July 2013 22: 30 New
    -2
    Quote: soldier's grandson
    and I consider myself a patriot of Russia more ... and think more about people


    That's it ... And I - about the same ...

    In the year 1917, Mr. Leiba Bronstein “with his comrades” thought a lot about “people”, don’t you remember?
    "Factories - to the workers!", "Earth - to the peasants!". Well, how did it end? How long did that peasant land linger? Huh? Yes, and the workers - not very much skip. For that power, such as you "patriots" - with a bang, smashed to smithereens. The Bolsheviks, then, had to collect in pieces, and even then they did not completely assemble it.

    Quote: soldier's grandson
    ... and as for Hodor, I’ll tell him to the bulb, this is the dismantling of the top ...


    Familiar Position:

    “Ah, I spat on Vietnam!”
    I would live quietly.
    I - a patch to the pants
    sew a new one! ” ©

    True, this usually ends badly:
    "If you do not engage in politics, then politics will be yours." ©

    If you are a "hard worker", and even proud of it, not wanting to change anything, it means that you simply "got drunk."
    Sadly, of course, but there's nothing to be done, unfortunately, this happens, alas - often.
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 1 August 2013 08: 13 New
    -1
    you have an urban style of communication, feeling that you are wrong to cling to the parents of the interlocutor, I remind you that my topic was about the quality of the overalls, what kind of person I got into the dispute without having experience on this topic, and I have nothing to do with Jews, and you are very good know their customs means your parents sara and moysha, goodbye gas two tgi four five
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 1 August 2013 08: 44 New
    0
    boy, did your parents teach you anything in childhood?
  • 12345
    12345 1 August 2013 12: 16 New
    -1
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    You are proud that you are rude to people who are an old woman of you, that you “blow your nose” into your sleeve and wipe your hands on the curtain.
    you are not a patriot, you are ordinary {Ч_М_О?}, who envies those who are smarter or just better live.
    just like you were knocking on neighbors at 38 to get their room, and before that they dispossessed your neighbors and drank stolen from dispossessed.


    Sorry, Vladimir, but I strongly did not imagine that you would be so close in your wording, about this "granddaughter," to the truth.

    For some reason, it seemed to me that this “granddaughter” - subtly works under a certain image in order to look “his” for a certain part of the audience.

    Ah, he really is SUCH! By golly, it seemed to me that such people were sitting at the bottle more than at the computer. But, it turns out - no ... And, you - immediately "saw through" it, sincere "respect" to you for this. However, they are strong.

    Nevertheless, as director Yakin said: "God, what a type!"

    IMHO, it’s bastard - it doesn’t have a nationality: to pull this out of the Egyptian "tahrir", remove the turban and, if it weren’t for the language barrier, just "twin brothers." No, don’t say that, but the “Zhirinovsky project” was very correctly calculated.
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 2 August 2013 08: 05 New
    -1
    Thank you for the fun communication, without cm ex, it’s difficult to communicate with you, because you have all the brains laughing
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 30 July 2013 22: 41 New
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    Quote: soldier's grandson
    I just took the method of communication of that Vasilenko, and the topic was on the quality of workwear, but you have not proved, give a link, a point on the basis of which I am a Jew. and my mother is Russian

    I don’t know who your parents are by nationality, but it’s for sure that they did not instill in you the basic principles of culture.
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 22: 54 New
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    I plus you, I had no time to learn the basics of culture. I grew up in a village founded by Cossacks, and in the village you think you yourself understand what kind of education
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 30 July 2013 22: 58 New
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    Quote: soldier's grandson
    and in the village you think you yourself understand what kind of education

    cattle, respectively, are the same as cattle in the city, and normal people have normal
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 23: 07 New
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    who ? are you this to me
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 30 July 2013 23: 12 New
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    except for culture, you also have an understanding of the problem
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 23: 18 New
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    Well, you yourself proved who you are in education, I took you on a hook, and you see the brave only at the computer
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 30 July 2013 23: 32 New
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    boy, unlike you, I express my thoughts under my own name and do not hide.
    therefore do not disgrace
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 30 July 2013 23: 45 New
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    alexey alexandrovich I, well, you haven’t clarified anything clever here except when you stood at the machine and shook your hand there
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 31 July 2013 00: 15 New
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    your stupid scolding does not honor you, you revel in your rudeness and forgive stupidity.
    you say so often - "I am a hard worker" that it seems that you are an ordinary idler.
    you are not proud that you are a wonderful carpenter or a first-class turner, you are proud that you are rude to people who are old to you, that you “blow your nose” on your sleeve and wipe your hands on the curtain.
    you are not a patriot, you are an ordinary who is jealous of those who are smarter or just better lives.
    just like you were knocking on neighbors at 38 to get their room, and before that they dispossessed your neighbors and drank stolen from dispossessed.
    you are stupid and hamovity, in real life you most likely will not allow yourself this much more than you are afraid to receive for your rudeness
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 31 July 2013 00: 22 New
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    bring a reference, a fad to prove your words, and so your words are an empty place like you, your poor mind has run out, goodbye goat patriot
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 31 July 2013 00: 26 New
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    Quote: soldier's grandson
    bring a reference to prove your words

    what exactly to give you as an example, that you boast of the title of hard worker or that you are rude, so re-read your posts on this thread
  • bomg.77
    bomg.77 29 July 2013 14: 03 New
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    Russia needs to get rid of such institutions as the European Court of Justice, the international court to abolish the moratorium on the death penalty and all these bodies that seem to be democratic and live by their own laws without paying attention to
    theirs. What can they teach or advise Russia to live for a thousand years?
    There will still be many such Khodors, and what each time you think what the European Court will say? He turned up the EBN affairs and raked another twenty years.
  • Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 29 July 2013 14: 14 New
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    Um ... let me have a question.
    The judges of the ECHR decided to give Mikhail Khodorkovsky ten thousand euros (from the Russian budget)

    if
    The court did not see any political motivation in the case, but after carefully examining the documents, it once again came to the conclusion that there was the most commonplace criminality in the case - you just shook government money, dear Mr. Khodorkovsky, and didn’t blow it ...

    why excuse me to pay 10k euros?
  • ed65b
    ed65b 29 July 2013 14: 17 New
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    hodor killer. No wonder nevzlina in Israel is flung. And if they didn’t forget, I wanted to sell and dump Yukos to Amers. And his rags, no matter how good, and dentists should not be placed above people. Life. And then, as always, hands in blood to the elbow and people bought rags. And the mayor remember the murdered "gift for the day from Lebedev"
  • NEMO
    NEMO 29 July 2013 15: 22 New
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    For example, on the website of the Ekho Moskvy radio station on Friday, remarkably, at 03:03 Moscow time, a note appeared that allegedly ... The ECHR just didn’t understand it, they seem to recognize politics in action, but only if you look upside down at an acute angle ...

    "Echo of Moscow" is an extremely "authoritative" news portal, and definitely brings benefits, in this I agree with M. Leontyev:
    When I need to recharge with hatred, I listen to them with great pleasure. It helps me professionally
  • mushtuc
    mushtuc 29 July 2013 15: 32 New
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    Before leaving prison, he must compensate for all the loot.
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 29 July 2013 15: 40 New
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    Quote: mushtuc
    Before leaving prison, he must compensate for all the loot.

    to whom? Tell me more precisely, and where is the loot stored?
    1. 12345
      12345 29 July 2013 17: 33 New
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      Quote: soldier's grandson
      Tell me more precisely, and where is the loot stored?


      "Excuse me, if the Jews sold Russia, then where can I get my share?" ©
  • rus_ak_93
    rus_ak_93 29 July 2013 15: 48 New
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    Quote: sanych
    Rights PPZ - only confiscation and logging!

    yes it’s visible - it sits well, a decent hat is put on, not what pi ....
  • Party_time
    Party_time 29 July 2013 15: 50 New
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    Quote: cherkas.oe
    Quote: sanych
    ! Stealing billions - sit for decades !!!

    This p-a-d-a-l-l not only stole, at his order people were killed and more than one, but this scum, refined from itself "political" writhing, the reception of all "zh-d-o-v" .

    Pichugin Alexey Vladimirovich, the former head of the department of internal economic security at the Yukos oil company, has already answered for the murders related to Yukos and rests in Black Dolphin for life.
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 29 July 2013 15: 52 New
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      Pichugin is an independent figure, he was given the task, he solved it. So Hodor, of course, crouched.
  • cool.ya-nikola
    cool.ya-nikola 29 July 2013 15: 51 New
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    Quote: Sirocco
    What is this US citizen doing with us?

    Feed, Vladimir, corny, feed! In the US, she does not shine! There such
    Quote: Egoza
    human rights activists
    even eat with your ears! So you have to "poor" live in a "wild and uncivilized country, but what to do you want to eat, but, for dousing with slops from your homeland, the USA, they’re pretty good at tongue am
  • sumcream56
    sumcream56 29 July 2013 18: 00 New
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    The fact is that the ECHR recognized the case not as political but as corrupt, commissioned by high-ranking officials. And therefore, decided to cancel the illegal decisions of the first court, including the payment of the fine
    1. muks
      muks 29 July 2013 23: 52 New
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      The ECHR, within its competence, checks the COMPLIANCE with the NATIONAL LAW IN THE PROCEEDINGS IN THE CASE - EVERYTHING !!!! These courts do not have the rights and opportunities to cancel, amend, indicate to national courts. If there were violations of the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation during the proceedings, the European Court determines the compensation, the court’s verdict also indicates the violation, which is the basis for the review .. Or it may not appear - as it will be decided in Russia! he didn’t recognize something: the ECHR doesn’t have real capabilities, they can wipe it with a “verdict” ... and wipe it!
  • WIN969
    WIN969 29 July 2013 18: 34 New
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    I HOPE THIS KHODORKOVSKY AND ITS FAMILY YET COMPLETELY EXTENDED. It is a pity that he did not bend in the crib. am
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 29 July 2013 19: 28 New
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    I’m somehow on the drum of the fate of these scoundrels, one thing annoys me from so many defenders from a villain robbing the country and destroying people with impunity, albeit with the wrong hands. We’d better deal with the stool, and then it’s time to take the redhead.