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Yuri Tavrovsky: "Salafi attack on China is yet to come"

Yuri Tavrovsky: "Salafi attack on China is yet to come"

What caused the explosion of Salafi activity in northwest China, what mistakes do Chinese authorities make when interacting with residents of the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region and how does the US turn towards Asia affect stability in the region, said Orientalist, RUDN professor Yury Tavrovsky.

Guest in the studio "Voices of Russia" - Yuri Vadimovich Tavrovsky, an orientalist, professor of the Peoples' Friendship University of Russia (RUDN).

The interview is conducted by Andrei Ilyashenko.

Ilyashenko: Hello! Let's talk about the situation that is developing in the PRC, more precisely in the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, which borders on a number of Central Asian states. Lately Salafis have been quite active there.

We invited a professor of the Russian University of Peoples' Friendship, an orientalist Yuri Tavrovsky, to tell more about the current situation.
What is the difference between the situation in this region of China, which has previously caused a lot of problems to the central authorities?

Tavrovsky: Recently, in the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, the performances of hooligan elements and separatists are increasingly occurring. Sometimes they are organized, sometimes they are not. The peak itself was in 2009, when in the administrative center of the autonomous region of the city of Urumqi there was a massive Uighur demonstration. They attacked the Han Chinese, an ethnic Chinese.

Then there were also a lot of such insurrections. And at the same time they began in Kazakhstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. An explosion of Salafi activity occurs throughout this region. He is regarded by Salafis as a very important part of the future of the Islamic Caliphate.

The Fergana Valley, Dzungaria, which became known as Xinjiang, are areas where pan-Islamist, Pan-Turkist sentiments arose far from today. Xinjiang became part of China in the 1755 year after the Manchus seized the country. They seized the Dzungarian Khanate and established their control there.

But control was not always. In 1864, there was an uprising there mainly by the Uighurs and other peoples professing Islam. As a result, China has practically lost control of the entire region. Then he had to win over a few years.

Uigurs - an ancient nation with a high culture. This is an integral part of the Turks. The Uighurs have their own writing and literature. Now they are ideologically processed through the Internet, Islamist literature is being abandoned. Muslim youth from Xinjiang goes to study in foreign Islamic universities.

Recently, Chinese newspapers reported on the detention of a young man who participated in armed uprisings in Xinjiang, and before that - in the battles in Syria on the side of anti-government forces. He was not going to fight, he went to study, but he was told that it was his duty as a Muslim to take part in jihad.

They created a brigade of the same guys and threw them into battle under one of the cities in Syria. He only managed to survive. Salafis are professionals who fight for al-Qaida. They use such “ideological” youth as a cover, cannon fodder.

But this young man survived, he was sent back. He returned to China as a specialist and a man who was shot. I think that this is not a real Salafi onslaught, but only a preparation for it. In my opinion, everything will start after 2014.

Ilyashenko: I just wanted to ask this question, since both in Russia and in the countries of Central Asia there are big concerns about how stable the situation in the region will be after the withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan ...

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  1. experienced
    experienced 26 July 2013 15: 47
    14 th
    Well, yes, "VO" only dreamed about Tvardovsky ... wassat Bags under the eyes explain everything wink
  2. 12061973
    12061973 26 July 2013 15: 54
    it is better for Islamists not to mess with China, they will be healthier. the CCP is unlikely to give money to the Uighurs to the detriment of the rest of China.
  3. Alexanderlaskov
    Alexanderlaskov 26 July 2013 15: 54
    Yes, everything will be fine in China. There wise dragons rule.
  4. MG42
    MG42 26 July 2013 15: 55
    In China, separatism is doomed to fail >>
    1. avt
      avt 26 July 2013 17: 34
      Quote: MG42
      In China, separatism is doomed to fail >>

      Yes, as long as there is an old school leadership, not afraid of blood and the "world community", looking at everything not from the point of view of "universal human values" but exclusively pragmatically in accordance with YOUR interests, there is nothing special to catch there. they acted wisely not allowing the Communist Party to collapse and in the fact that it is the party that leads any transformation processes in China and looks like a monolith of one ideology. friend as perfume. There and besides the Uyghurs there are enough centers of separatism, it only seems that they are one people. Even the language of the north and south is very different.
      1. MG42
        MG42 26 July 2013 18: 48
        Quote: avt
        Yes, as long as there is an old school leadership, not afraid of blood and the "world community", looking at everything not from the point of view of "universal human values" but exclusively pragmatically in accordance with YOUR interests, there is nothing special to catch there. they acted wisely not allowing the Communist Party to collapse and in the fact that it is the party that leads any transformation processes in China and looks outwardly a monolith of one ideology

        I completely agree. As well as the death penalty for corruption, separatism and drug trafficking, and birth control 1 family = 1 child helps to maintain order under the strict guidance of the Communist Party of China. The construction of a market economy is carried out in China under the leadership of the Communist Party on the basis of five-year plans.
        Quote: avt
        There, besides the Uyghurs, there are enough centers of separatism

        Here you can add that the order is based on a powerful PLA, China does not skimp on rearmament ..
        1. urganov
          urganov 27 July 2013 22: 07
          Quote: MG42
          Here you can add that the order is based on a powerful PLA,

          Besides the PLA, there are local Andropovs, although Bo Xilai's example is impressive.
      2. urganov
        urganov 27 July 2013 21: 55
        Quote: avt
        looks outwardly a monolith of one ideology.

        This is scary. Like, the main thing is to look right from the side, officially, as they say ...
        "And we will correct the picture, if that ..."
    2. Vodrak
      Vodrak 27 July 2013 07: 10
      In China, for sure, nothing of the kind will happen. they will make the desert troops, they will populate the Chinese from the south, and they will say so.
  5. krez-74
    krez-74 26 July 2013 15: 58
    I have always treated narrow-profile specialists with distrust, especially those who "understand" the history, peoples, their problems and prospects ... I do not want to offend anyone, but the world is governed, and therefore its problems are artificial!
  6. a52333
    a52333 26 July 2013 15: 59
    This is a counterweight to Alexander Khramchikhin's article on the threat of China. The Chinese understand no worse than the author of the article, into whose mill the "Salafi speeches" are pouring. And in this regard, I would like to emphasize the decency in partnership between the USSR (as well as the Russian Federation) built schools, helped power plants with weapons, money and food. And the Chinese know what our friendship is worth. and against whom it is NECESSARY TO FRIEND
  7. orff
    orff 26 July 2013 16: 21
    Through the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region (XUAR), a unified telecommunications superhighway Shanghai - Frankfurt passes through China. Through XUAR, China may close the route for transporting gas and oil from the Caspian basin to the Asia-Pacific region (APR). It is also important that the XUAR borders on Tibet. Washington’s occasional uproar about Tibetan rights violations is another example of a propaganda war against China. The United States strongly supports opposition Uyghur movements outside the PRC. One of them is the World Uyghur Congress, whose president is dissident Rabiyat Kadir, one of the richest people in China. He maintains relations with a number of American congressmen, with George W. Bush. Rabiyat Kadir is a promoted symbol of Uyghur resistance.
    Washington mainly uses three channels to put pressure on the PRC - via Taiwan, Tibet and Xinjiang, and among Muslims-Uyghurs of Xinjiang, separatist protests are usually especially acute. Therefore, the United States will continue to benevolently observe the development of Uyghur nationalism, promoting, as far as possible, its radicalization ...
    The most significant transport corridors on the western border are the Dzungarian Gate border passage connecting Xinjiang with Kazakhstan, as well as the Karakorum corridor through which China and Pakistan communicate. There are a number of other passages and corridors - however, the mountainous nature of the area poses an extremely difficult task for China to organize year-round transport links in this direction. The difficulty lies in the fact that the Karakoram corridor passes through the disputed territories of India and Pakistan, India and China, which creates difficulties in the strategic planning of its use.
    1. yurii p
      yurii p 27 July 2013 13: 31
      where there is instability, the horns and tail are visible, the line is striped, the theory of chaos in action.
  8. Humpty
    Humpty 26 July 2013 16: 44
    Uyghurs twitch from time to time. Regularly grab brooms from the Chinese for this. The Chinese in Xinjiang on the site of ancient cities representing a bunch of adobe duvalls built modern cities. The Chinese are building houses there on dozens of floors, and the Uyghurs have brick buildings without foundations in an earthquake-prone area.
  9. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 26 July 2013 17: 58
    The Chinese don’t touch them yet .. they’re probably not up to them But if they seriously start buzzing ... I think the answer will be cruel with the Chinese mentality .. rather, as a people, they simply cease to exist in Chinese territory and in the World too ..
  10. knn54
    knn54 26 July 2013 18: 52
    Alexander Lyulka Tibetan Buddhist barbarism or about the Tibetan monastic paradise (, it's worth seeing (photo).
    Gulzi Bon. Uighurs in China: Life in Autonomy. and other notes (in particular, Igor Rotar: Xinjiang Uyghur region remains a "headache" for the Chinese authorities) on the Uyghurs on the website of the Fergana news agency ...
    By the way, ~ 400000 Uighurs live in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan. I had to communicate while serving in that region. I’ll say frankly big nationalists (with high conceit) than I have never met. In Brezhnev’s time, they also “buzzed” with us, but this was quickly stopped.
    1. Sirius-2
      Sirius-2 26 July 2013 19: 51
      Thanks for the info. I am shocked by Tibet! And what did the Roerich family think when looking at such cannibalism ?!
      1. Very old
        Very old 27 July 2013 09: 27
        The Roerichs might not know. They lived in India, they drove into Tibet
    2. Very old
      Very old 27 July 2013 09: 24
      Nikolay, read and see A. Lyulka at your link. He went further from him. As one ardent Anglo-Saxon said, Dalai.mama, of course, is a bastard, but this is our bastard (he spoke of a son of a bitch, but what's the difference?)
  11. Yeraz
    Yeraz 26 July 2013 21: 09
    Uighurs do not have much to emerge and openly show their complaints. There is the Internet, there are already 1 independent Turkic country in the world, and as many as 6, where the Turkic culture develops, a lot of books are published and they can be enriched from there. And at the right time, rise and get the support of the not weak Turkic world, but so far it is not worth teasing the Chinas too many of them and this may result in the destruction of the Uighurs.
  12. pinecone
    pinecone 26 July 2013 22: 31
    The danger is exaggerated. The number of all Chinese Muslims, and not only Uighurs, in the country's population does not exceed one percent, and there is no inflow from the outside. They will rock the boat, crush tightly.
    1. ratuld
      ratuld 27 July 2013 07: 31
      KILL ALL !!!
      Fuck ...
  13. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 26 July 2013 23: 36
    As long as China is strong, no Uyghurs are scary - in a generation they will be national leaders in their Uyghurs. The question is whether external forces can rock the situation in the country. Then all sorts of Uigur-Manchurian-Dalai Lama will be able to blow up the country nafig.
  14. ratuld
    ratuld 27 July 2013 07: 30
    !!!! They sent the guys, they killed everyone, one is now super-specialist, so there will be an uprising .... !!!
    Professor !!! Take off your bike glasses !!!
  15. individual
    individual 27 July 2013 15: 55
    Tian-An-Myn Square, (The Great Gate of Heavenly Peace), will resolve all issues of separatism in China. am
  16. Indifferent
    Indifferent 27 July 2013 22: 26
    We would live like Uighurs live. They have villages like cities. There is no unemployment. Hothouse farms the size of tens of hectares. Almost every house has a car. The standard of living is an order of magnitude higher than in neighboring Kazakhstan, and even less so in Uzbekistan. And small groups of snickering youth will not change anything there. People there do not need separatism today. And if there are such groups, they will be quickly neutralized! China now has all the possibilities in this regard. It is even strange that a respected professor does not write anything about it.
  17. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 29 July 2013 02: 35
    China will eat these Salafists with Mr. laughing