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Venezuela will cover the Russian military complexes C-300ВМ

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C-300 enterprises are engaged in the production of the C-400 complex, and the Antey-2500, the army version of the legendary system, is offered to foreign customers.


The anti-aircraft missile system (ZRS) C-300ВМ ("Antey-2500") will be the basis of Venezuelan air defense. The strategic operational command (Comando Estrategico Operacional - CEO) of the National Armed Forces plans to create six air defense brigades. In each brigade there will be several groups of fire weapons and the C-300ВМ control division.

Venezuela became the first foreign buyer "Anteev". Next in line is Turkey. C-300BM is participating in the tender for the supply of long-range air defense systems, along with the US Patriot air defense missile system, and the C-300 clone from China. Earlier, Russia offered Iran, to replace the annoying White House, C-300, with "Antey-2500", within the framework of an already concluded contract.

The C-300 PMU1 and Antey-2500 (C-300ВМ) complexes have similar characteristics. In fact, the "Antey" is an improved C-300 tracked modification, which was designed specifically for military air defense and was not intended for overseas deliveries. C-300BM is capable of striking airplanes, drones, ballistic and cruise missiles, flying at speeds up to 16200 km / h, within 200 radius, at altitudes from 20 meters to 30 kilometers. The transfer time of the on-duty ZRS to combat readiness is only 40 s, preparation of the rocket for launch takes no more than 7,5 s.

The main elements of the C-300B. Photo © Rosinformburo / A. Sokolov There is evidence that the Ministry of Defense intends to equip this system with four anti-aircraft missile brigades.

But why, Russia decided to sell overseas air defense system, created exclusively for domestic use.

A source in the defense industry agency suggests that this may be due to the re-equipment of the Russian army with the C-400 Triumph complexes. Enterprises producing C-300 are engaged in the production of new products, and to foreign customers are offering an army version of the famous system, which is assembled at other factories.
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  1. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 25 July 2013 10: 41 New
    24
    It's nice to know that our defense industry is starting to supply weapons primarily to its own army, even to the detriment of foreign customers. And the Turks with 300 to sell stupidity is big, you can immediately transfer the drawings to Washington.
    1. il grand casino
      il grand casino 25 July 2013 10: 57 New
      17
      Well, something tells me that Washington already has them.
      P.S. It is to wish Venezuela a clean, peaceful sky
    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 25 July 2013 11: 06 New
      +4
      Washington will not allow the Turks to buy C-300 ... otherwise the demonstrators will come out again ...
    3. AVV
      AVV 25 July 2013 11: 22 New
      11
      In the first place, you can finally offer to Venezuela, India, Cuba or other similar countries! And the Turks will introduce a no-fly zone over Syria !!! But do we need this ???
      1. elmi
        elmi 25 July 2013 13: 52 New
        12
        Quote: AVV
        In the first place, you can finally offer to Venezuela, India, Cuba or other similar countries! And the Turks will introduce a no-fly zone over Syria !!! But do we need this ???

        I don’t understand why the government does not supply C-300 to Syria and Iran under a previously signed contract, why is the government so afraid of the reaction of the USA and Israel? the excessive caution and gentleness of the authorities annoys them, they are afraid of taking an extra step without looking back. Considering that Syria will help Russia, not Turkey.
        1. don.kryyuger
          don.kryyuger 25 July 2013 20: 24 New
          0
          Such power is because.
        2. Samminosh
          Samminosh 25 July 2013 20: 58 New
          +1
          How will it help?
          Syria is unlikely to pay for weapons that are delivered there, by the way.
      2. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 25 July 2013 22: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: AVV
        And the Turks will introduce a no-fly zone over Syria !!! But do we need this ???


        And we do not care. 100% we just turn it off when necessary.
    4. S-200
      S-200 25 July 2013 11: 31 New
      +6
      Belarusians had already sold the S-300 to the USA for a long time, even under Yeltsin. According to knowledgeable people, the document for sale contains the permission of the former deputy defense minister Andrei Kokoshin and the visa of the former chief of the General Staff Mikhail Kolesnikov.
    5. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 25 July 2013 11: 49 New
      +3
      It turns out interesting: Turkey used to be against S-300 shipments to Cyprus. Russia lost. And now they are ready to deliver to Turkey, potential potential friends. Somehow not sequentially. Or maybe an informational flush to tease stripes.
    6. seller trucks
      seller trucks 25 July 2013 12: 06 New
      +9
      Quote: tilovaykrisa
      But the Turks with 300 sell stupid big, you can immediately transfer the drawings to Washington.


      you probably forgot about the Ukrainians, those, all the samples of Soviet technology were handed over to the Americans, they are partners.
    7. APASUS
      APASUS 25 July 2013 12: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: tilovaykrisa
      . And the Turks with 300 to sell stupidity is big, you can immediately transfer the drawings to Washington.

      I think it makes no sense to buy S-300 Turks, because for integration with a comprehensive air defense system we will have to transfer a number of technical codes, but this cannot be allowed. The system itself will be less effective
    8. bistrov.
      bistrov. 25 July 2013 14: 17 New
      +5
      Quote: tilovaykrisa
      But the Turks with 300 sell stupid big, you can immediately transfer the drawings to Washington.

      Drawings, this is not all, there are technological maps, which are also necessary for the organization of production. The Germans, for example, in the last war were not able to organize the production of missile shells from the first Soviet MLRS BM-13 (Katyusha), although they had samples of launchers and missile shells themselves. In addition, technological progress does not stand still, more advanced S-400 air defense systems are already in production, and an even more advanced S-500 is being developed. With the modern development of information exchange, obtaining drawings and even technical samples is not a problem. The United States has long received all the samples of Soviet military equipment of interest from nationalist Ukraine.
      1. Samminosh
        Samminosh 25 July 2013 21: 01 New
        +1
        Missile shells from the MLRS could not be made due to the lack of Central Asian cotton as a component)) And the substitutes turned out to be expensive and lousy.
      2. Sobol
        Sobol 26 July 2013 10: 00 New
        +1
        ++ It is one thing to copy the mechanics and completely different algorithms of the electronics of all systems of the complex. That is why neither the Americans nor the Chinese, having dismantled the S-300 cog, could not create anything like that. Even a TV show a couple of years ago was where the designers talked about it.
    9. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 25 July 2013 22: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: tilovaykrisa
      It's nice to know that our defense industry is starting to supply weapons primarily to its own army, even to the detriment of foreign customers. And the Turks with 300 to sell stupidity is big, you can immediately transfer the drawings to Washington.


      Apparently, it is necessary to write in the headline of the site that the sale of a working sample of such a sophisticated equipment as an air defense system is just a sale of equipment.

      Even if staffers with all the shatmi fall into the complex, they will need 5-6 years, and this, taking into account their highly skilled specialists and equipment. Again, an export option will fall into their hands, which, in principle, is not the most interesting in composition. Again, the military option will be significantly different. It’s not a fact that they will be able to reverse the software. And without it there’s no sense at all. There are not just programmed controllers and ROMs, but hardware encryption of the code itself, etc. etc. ...

      By the way, they have had the S-300 division since 1991. They shot off operational ammunition from him and drove them to long-term storage. And what did it give them?

      OK. Thus, after 5 years, they will have a working model of the complex, which is not a fact and sense from it? A few more years to create a new bike, and in the meantime the Russians were already putting into service a new complex. Even without a purchase, they know how the S-300 works, they haven’t been able to repeat it yet, and countermeasures are always late.

      Regarding the Turks - it’s inappropriate to sell them for another reason. Strengthening them with such weapons is guaranteed to push the Turks into direct aggression against neighboring countries.
    10. Rustam
      Rustam 26 July 2013 01: 28 New
      +1
      it's good that we put 2 divisions with 300 s in Venezuela


      But at the moment I do not care about the delivery of these systems to Venezuela (I am happy for them) And the fate of the 3 new S-300B4 divisions that are supposed to arrive in South-East Military District, at what stage is the production going? 80% of the amount already paid in advance


      The Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Anatoly Serdyukov and the general director of OJSC Almaz-Antey Vladislav Menshchikov signed a three-year state contract for the supply of S-300V4 air defense systems.

      Representatives of the military department said that the first three divisions of the S-300V4 air defense system will go to the Southern Military District.

      They noted that the Ministry of Defense under the contract undertook to provide the supplier and its co-contractors with an eighty percent advance, providing economic support to manufacturers of the air defense system itself and its components.

      The S-300V4 anti-aircraft missile system is a modification of the S-300VM system, which has higher tactical and technical characteristics that were achieved through the introduction of modern computing facilities and hardware, the use of new components.

      The new system is capable of hitting targets at ranges of up to three hundred kilometers
    11. shpuntik
      shpuntik 26 July 2013 19: 48 New
      0
      tilovaykrisa RU Yesterday, 10:41
      But the Turks with 300 sell stupid big, you can immediately transfer the drawings to Washington.

      Sold for a long time, and forgot :-), don't worry. Everything that can be already sold, we fly on that which cannot be sold, even to "partners".
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  2. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 25 July 2013 10: 49 New
    +3
    6 brigades - along with other means of air defense is very decent.
  3. Alez
    Alez 25 July 2013 10: 50 New
    +3
    That's right, you need to sell obsolete equipment, to supply the latest in your troops.
    1. il grand casino
      il grand casino 25 July 2013 10: 56 New
      +2
      It is necessary. Only with a new one is not very good. Will wait
    2. a52333
      a52333 25 July 2013 11: 43 New
      +3
      So yes, but anyway, I would not like to see Antey 2500 in Turkey.
      Dual feeling:
      a) updating your own air defense = +++
      b) earnings for the defense industry +++
      c) not Antei, so the patriot will stand there
      d) in contrast: they are still NATO, and an unfriendly country. ?????
    3. PSih2097
      PSih2097 25 July 2013 11: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: Alez
      That's right, you need to sell obsolete equipment, to supply the latest in your troops.

      And where did you get the idea that the S-300VM is out of date? S-300PMU and S-300VM are different complexes with different tasks, they even have different components, moreover, the stationary complex was brought up to the capabilities of the army, and so far there is nothing new to cover the army.
    4. King
      King 25 July 2013 12: 06 New
      +3
      It can hardly be called outdated. there is still no analogue in the world. just “Antey” was ahead of its time by several years without speaking about the s-400 and s-500
      1. Samminosh
        Samminosh 25 July 2013 21: 03 New
        -2
        The elemental base is ancient and monstrously bulky. The fact that we have the size of a suitcase we have dimensions with a refrigerator.
        1. Raven1972
          Raven1972 25 July 2013 21: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: Samminosh
          The elemental base is ancient and monstrously bulky. The fact that we have the size of a suitcase we have dimensions with a refrigerator.

          Oga, the only logical question arises - why, with all their super-duper-powered element base, the Americans still have not created anything even remotely approaching our TTX complexes? So it’s not such a super-duper as it is praised)))) hi
          Py.Sy. By the way - all Hi-End sound technology is exclusively tube-based. Do not tell me why?hi
  4. Denis
    Denis 25 July 2013 10: 57 New
    +1
    And what about Syria on C 300 deliveries, has everything calmed down?
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 25 July 2013 11: 17 New
      0
      Deliver to Syria via Turkey, through Jabahad al Nusra laughing
    2. Letterksi
      Letterksi 25 July 2013 14: 11 New
      +1
      Do you think it will be somehow different? laughing
  5. silver_roman
    silver_roman 25 July 2013 10: 59 New
    10
    It goes without saying that for our allies, such as Venezuela, the Antei-2500 complexes should be supplied, but for NATO members like Turkey, this is clearly too much.
    An argument like: "
    this may be due to the re-equipment of the Russian army with the S-400 Triumph complexes "
    Not okay.
    if we have a conflict, then the S-400s in service with the Russian army will not prevent the Turkish S-300s from working in our aircraft. money with money, but in such delicate matters it is worth being careful!
    1. sergeschern
      sergeschern 25 July 2013 22: 03 New
      +1
      Here we have such an absurd guide-live one day, damn it!
  6. kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson 25 July 2013 11: 02 New
    +4
    In Iran, it is necessary to put, Antey is really a good option, with other things being equal. Only for a long time all this, the poor beggar pull.
    And in the SAR also, at least 7 divisions are needed, the territory there is rather big. In general, it turns out weird, before they did it first, and then they wrote the news, but right now just to try to get public. Hollow Nuts.
  7. pa_nik
    pa_nik 25 July 2013 11: 07 New
    11
    And guys - with eggs !!! good And we all worried - how are they without Hugo !? In the right direction are moving towards preserving national sovereignty good
  8. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 25 July 2013 11: 14 New
    +6
    and even a very long time ago they were specially sold by the United States; mattresses rubbed their hands but didn’t find out everything is the same they have the whole chip in the mathematical models of working in algorithms Veniamin Efremov, one of the creators, while still smiling, said yes buy for good never cut
    1. afire
      afire 26 July 2013 13: 23 New
      0
      Punctuation marks will help you in life. Try to use them!
  9. Diviz
    Diviz 25 July 2013 11: 56 New
    0
    from the article as well as in Syria and Iran they take doubts that this will be in reality.
  10. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 25 July 2013 12: 45 New
    0
    Venezuela understands why it is necessary to sell 300s ... but why Turkey ..... for any it is our potential enemy
  11. Constantine
    Constantine 25 July 2013 13: 01 New
    0
    It is good to strengthen allies closer to the states. Nobody knows, what if they will have to keep their own air force there, and there will be no problems to agree in Venezuela on this matter. Anything can happen and it is better to prepare a bridgehead in advance. In general, in general, it is good to strengthen allies. News "+" good
  12. knn54
    knn54 25 July 2013 13: 06 New
    0
    And Venezuela has good relations with Iran ...
  13. Selevc
    Selevc 25 July 2013 13: 20 New
    +2
    It’s not enough for Russia to sell the V300 to Venezuela - it’s necessary to create a large military base there !!! Venezuela has a lot of Amer F-16s, it will be possible to work out new methods of air combat on them - all the same, the main fighter of a potential enemy ... :)
  14. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 25 July 2013 13: 22 New
    +3
    annoying White House, S-300, on Antei-2500

    And what, Antei will not annoy them? In my opinion, they annoy ANY Delivery ANY Russian weapons in general, anywhere. And if you take into account the opinion of the Americans, then in general you can turn off all arms exports. Less need to pay attention to overseas squeals and do your job.
  15. makst83
    makst83 25 July 2013 14: 22 New
    +1
    since C-300B are not produced ....... it follows from this that these systems will be delivered from the air defense forces !?
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 25 July 2013 19: 22 New
      +2
      makst83. S-400 stand on duty instead of the S-300. The freed complexes (S-300) were delivered to Belarus and Kazakhstan.
      So the Russian air defense does not suffer and even strengthens - the Russian Federation, Belarus and Kazakhstan have a unified air defense system (Kazakhstan from the south, Belarus from the west). wink
  16. Vlad_Mir
    Vlad_Mir 25 July 2013 14: 52 New
    +1
    The Iranians are stupid if they don't take this system!
  17. Kasym
    Kasym 25 July 2013 18: 50 New
    +3
    Now we need to convince Venezuela to acquire complexes of medium and near range of action (up to artillery systems) to cover Anteyev. Otherwise, a layered air defense system will not work. Bulls or Torahs; Carapace or Tyungsky; Arrows or Needles. wink
    Only then will no democrats be screaming. I think so. hi
  18. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 25 July 2013 21: 32 New
    +1
    It would be better if the Russian base was located at home .. We would arrange an "unmanned zone" over the whole of North America .. if that ... It would be much cheaper .. (and the wave would leave Syria ..)))
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 25 July 2013 23: 01 New
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      We would set up an "unmanned zone" over the whole of North America


      Interesting offer!!! good
  19. mirag2
    mirag2 26 July 2013 09: 10 New
    0
    And the Venezuelans are not stupid, the best three hundred bought. Here you would still sell them to Chile, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Brazil, Colombia, and ... all that is there in South? Costa Rica doesn’t count, and Cuba on loan, or as payment for a future military base.
  20. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 26 July 2013 10: 15 New
    0
    It's nice to receive good news. Yes, Russia "is not this for you," and God has not deprived her of her talents. Keep it up! Forward Russia!
  21. ratuld
    ratuld 26 July 2013 13: 22 New
    0
    Uncle ... God forgive me ... Sam .. !!!
    Apparently falls into a binge.
    No matter how the day is a new priest.
    Still, Iran-the same hell.
    Uncle sniffs.
  22. michajlo
    michajlo 26 July 2013 15: 33 New
    0
    Quote: kirieeleyson
    In Iran, it is necessary to put, Antey is really a good option, with other things being equal. Only for a long time all this, the poor beggar pull.
    And in the SAR also, at least 7 divisions are needed, the territory there is rather big. In general, it turns out weird, before they did it first, and then they wrote the news, but right now just to try to get public. Hollow Nuts.

    Good day to all!
    Perhaps the actual situation with the supply of S-300 to Syria and Iran, quite another...
    After all, no one in the world has banned various games, statements and refutations.
    I would like to think that thinking and responsible people have been appointed to important posts in Russia!

    But it is also possible that all the patriots of Russia have already gone to the expense or to retire, and in the freed up administrative spaces of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the GRU just traitors to the motherland and new entrepreneurs walk ...
    Indeed, on the last principle, important institutions of my native Ukraine have long been working, and even with the correction and sighting of all steps by mentors from the USA!
  23. shpuntik
    shpuntik 26 July 2013 19: 56 New
    0
    Defensive armament S-300 !!! International bans, no obligations. Sell ​​to anyone you want, earn money in the country. What is the problem?
    The problem is in government compradors who do not want to quarrel with the United States. I remember Vavilov, the former Minister of Finance, stole money and lives in the United States. And how many are there? The same Chubais, doesn’t live, and is not going to run. Kvachkova also closed, the red beast ...