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Terrorism and double standards

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Terrorism and double standards



The European Union, at a meeting at the level of foreign ministers, decided to include the Lebanese Hezbollah party in the list of terrorist organizations. This may entail new sanctions not only against Hezbollah itself, but also against Lebanon and Syria.

Hezbollah is one of the most prominent and most popular parties in Lebanon. This is not al-Qaida or the Muslim Brotherhood - it is a major political party that is part of the government. With her, the Lebanese associated victory over the Israeli aggressor in 2006.

For all these years, no one has ever been able to blame Hezbollah for the terrorist attacks against civilians. She fought against the Israeli occupiers and aggressors. Israel has long retained the southern territories of Lebanon, and so far a part of the country's territory is under occupation. "Hezbollah", which fought with them - the same "terrorists", like our partisans during the Great Patriotic War.

In the 2006 year, when Israel committed unprovoked aggression against Lebanon, Hezbollah was the leading force of resistance. Then, as a result of the monthly bombardments that inflicted countless wounds on both Beirut and other cities, Lebanon persevered.

So, no one, except Israel and the United States, has so far been able to accuse Hezbollah of terrorism, no matter how much the Zionists want it. Attempts to accuse the organization of involvement in the terrorist attack in Bulgaria, which occurred a year ago in the city of Burgas, then failed. And there is no evidence of her involvement in this crime. However, gentlemen from the EU, as well as the United States, do not particularly bother with evidence, making politically biased decisions.

A whole year has passed since the terrorist attack in Bulgaria, in which he was accused of involvement in Hezbollah. And then this question was not raised, and even the Bulgarian authorities themselves did not raise it. But during this time, the Syrian terrorists, as well as the Gulf monarchies that supported them, raised a huge uproar over the participation of Hezbollah in battles on the side of the Syrian government army. And it’s shameful that a part of the Arabs subjected this organization of the Arab resistance to fierce attacks. The League of Arab States, which, it would seem, should show solidarity with resistance to the forces of Zionism, in fact rendered them a great service.

Thus, the terrorist attack in Bulgaria is only a cover for the EU. It turns out that Hezbollah is being punished for nothing else, just for its position on Syria.
This is part of the interfaith war that the West, the United States and Israel are inciting in the Middle East. They are trying to drive a wedge forever between representatives of the two main currents of Islam - Shiites and Sunnis. One of the reasons to stir up hatred of Hezbollah is to declare it a “Shiite” organization and, therefore, a group of “infidels.”

Moreover, when the same US had to attack Iraq, they shouted that the Sunni majority oppressed the Shiites. In Syria, they are now trying to create the view that Shiites and Alawites are already supposedly oppressing the Sunnis. And more and more countries are being drawn into this conflict.

In fact, it is time for both Sunnis and Shiites to understand one thing - the United States and Israel do not care about the suffering of both. They always support the side that benefits them.

In response to the EU’s decision regarding the Hezbollah Party, the Syrian Foreign Ministry said that this decision encourages aggression and occupation. The Foreign Ministry strongly condemned those who are behind the adoption of a similar decision aimed against the present and future of the Arab nation.

As the Party of the Arab Socialist Renaissance stated on this occasion, this decision was made by Europe under the leadership of the United States and the Zionists, in which reactionary Arab forces, especially Saudi Arabia, also played a role. This decision, the party stressed, exposes the essence of the colonial plan called the Arab Spring.

The party noted that it was taken on the eve of another anniversary of the victory of Lebanon over Israel in the 2006 war of the year. “It once again demonstrates the policy of double standards. The EU does not see anything wrong in the Israeli occupation of Arab territories, does not notice the manifestations of racism against the Palestinians. In addition, the EU does not consider it a violation of international law in the war unleashed against Syria, ”the statement said.

Indeed, those parties that say that Hezbollah’s participation on the side of the Syrian government army — I stress, the official state and the legitimate army — do not “notice” that tens of thousands of mercenaries from other countries participate on the side of illegal armed groups, do not “notice” the true of a terrorist international who commits crimes against civilians and is not in a hurry to add the “Syrian Free Army” to the list of terrorist organizations, although the bill is precisely the death of many civilians, women, children , Old.

And the same organizations, such as Al-Qaeda and Dzhebhat An-Nusra, already listed as terrorists, feel at ease under the auspices of the United States, the monarchies of the Gulf and Europe.
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  1. Denin
    Denin 25 July 2013 07: 15 New
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    Yes, in fact, nothing changes, and without their (European) revelations, their policy is so clear - the thief “hold the thief” shouts first.
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 25 July 2013 12: 08 New
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      The very first terrorist state in the world is America with its capital on the Potomac. His whole story is death and destruction around the world. Therefore, their cynical declaration causes just anger and condemnation.
  2. knn54
    knn54 25 July 2013 08: 00 New
    +1
    And where did Hezbollah strike, except Israel, which has been at war with for more than 30 years?
    And who built thousands of houses in Lebanon, laid hundreds of kilometers of roads and compensated for the damage to peasant families.
    Let the Yankees and Ko Sami put themselves on the list as the MOST DEMOCRATIC terrorists, at least RELATIVES: Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria. It's time, they deserve it.
    1. igor67
      igor67 25 July 2013 12: 18 New
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      [

      The destruction of the city of Damur is only one of the links in the genocide of the Lebanese Christians, carried out by local Muslims and Druze, who later joined the visiting Palestinian Arabs, and then the pro-Iranian Shiites.

      USSR citizens could not find out about it from the Soviet press, their country supported Arafat. Westerners have heard little about this, because the liberal press has little interest in the suffering of non-Muslims.

      However, everyone learned about the revenge of Christians in Sabra and Shatila. The Soviet and Western press instantly turned this event into the banner of the struggle against Israel and the melting Christian community in Lebanon.

      Damur is 20 km away. south of Beirut, in the foothills of Lebanon on the Sidon-Beirut highway. On the other side of the highway is the sea coast. The city was home to 25000 Christians, there were five churches, three chapels, seven schools and one hospital, which also served Muslims from neighboring villages.

      On January 9, 1976, three days after the feast of Epiphany, the city priest, father of Labeki, blessed the new church on the outskirts of the city. A shot rang out, a bullet hit the church wall. Then - the machine gun burst. The city was surrounded by 16000 Palestinian and Syrian Arabs and fifteen mercenary units from Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Libya.

      Labaki's father called the Muslim sheikh of the region and asked him, as a religious leader, to help the city. “I can’t do anything,” he replied: “These are Palestinian Arabs. I can't stop them. ”

      Shooting and shelling continued all day. Labeki's father called political leaders for help. Everyone expressed sympathy, but said that they could not help. He called Kemal Jamblath, a district deputy. “Father,” he said: “I can’t do anything, it all depends on Arafat.” He gave Arafat the number to the priest. In a conversation with Arafat, Father Labeki said: “Palestinians are shelling the city. As a religious leader, I assure you, we do not want war. ” Arafat replied: “Father, do not worry. We will not harm you. If we destroy the city, then only for strategic reasons. ”

      At midnight, water and electricity were turned off. The invasion began at one in the morning. The city was defended by a detachment of Christians in a church on the outskirts. Attacking the church, Muslims killed fifty people. The survivors retreated to the next church. Labeki's father, hearing the screams, went out into the street. He saw women in nightgowns screaming, "They are killing us!"

      Labeki’s father continues: “In the morning, despite the shelling, I reached the neighboring house. What I saw horrified me. The whole family Kenan was killed, four children a mother, father and grandfather. Mother still hugged one of the children. She was pregnant. The eyes of the children were gouged out, the limbs were chopped off. Alone torso without arms and legs. It was an intolerable sight. I carried the corpses into the truck. I was helped by the only surviving brother, Samir Kenan. He brought with me the remnants of his brother, father, daughter in law and children. We buried them in the cemetery, under the PLO shells. While we were burying them, people brought corpses gathered in the streets.

      The city tried to defend itself. I saw a detachment of young men armed with hunting rifles, most of them no more than sixteen. Residents collected sandbags, stacked them in front of doors and windows on the ground floors. Continuous shelling led to serious damage. The Palestinians blocked the city, cutting off food supplies, cut off water and prevented the Red Cross from taking out the wounded. "

      On January 23, the final assault began. Labeki’s father continues: “It was like an Apocalypse. They were approaching by the thousands, shouting to Allah Akbar! And they were killing everyone in their path, men, women, children ...”
      1. igor67
        igor67 25 July 2013 12: 19 New
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        Families of Christians were completely killed in their homes. Many women were raped before they died. The rapists took photographs that they later offered to newspapers for money. The surviving 16 year-old Samaviya saw how her father and brother were killed, how they robbed and burned her house, how the invaders collected the loot in trucks.

        Father Labeki found the charred bodies of his father and brother in their home, a stranger could not determine whether these bodies belonged to men or women.

        In the madness of robbery that crossed the limits of the conceivable, Muslims tore up the graves, scattering the bones of the dead. People tried to escape. Some made their way to the sea. But when salvation comes from the sea is not known, and the enemy could overtake them at any moment.

        Those who did not escape and escaped execution (mainly women and children) were thrown into trucks by the Palestinians to be sent to the Sabra camp. In this camp, the Palestinians created a prison for the people, who six years earlier had accepted Palestinians as refugees, after their unsuccessful coup in Jordan. The new arrivals were pushed into the overcrowded prison; they slept on the ground, suffering from the winter cold.

        After the seizure of the city, Arafatov executed twenty captured militiamen, the civilian population who had not succeeded in escaping was lined up along a wall and killed by a machine gun. An unknown number of women were raped, babies shot at close range, their bodies mutilated and dismembered.

        During the 15 years of the war, Arafat and the PLO plunged Lebanon into the abyss of violence, savagery, robbery and murder. Of the 1,2 million Christians (according to the 1970 census), more than 40000 were killed, 100000 were wounded, 5000 were crippled. Many Christians were forced to leave their homeland, fleeing to the United States and Europe. The Christian population of Lebanon is rapidly melting. If in the early 70s Christians made up the majority - 60%, then in the 90s they already became a minority - 40%, and by 2000 there were 30% of them.
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 25 July 2013 12: 58 New
          +3
          Such monsters .. it doesn’t matter what religion and nationality that kill women and children ... it is necessary to spread rot and wet ... when humanity finally ripens ((((
          humanity must create and not destroy.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 25 July 2013 17: 36 New
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            Quote: Scoun
            Such monsters .. no matter what religion and nationality that kills women and children ... it is necessary to spread rot and wet ... when humanity finally ripens

            That's right!
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 25 July 2013 18: 34 New
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          As for Damur Alibek is right. Hezbollah did not participate in this.
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay 25 July 2013 15: 19 New
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        Quote: igor67
        Destruction of the city of Damur -

        There was Sabra and Shatila!
        Quote: igor67
        Labeki’s father called the district’s Muslim sheikh and asked him, as a religious leader, to help the city.

        Then they also asked the Israeli army to help !!
        About a thousand people, women and children were killed!
        Phalangists remained in Sabra and Shatila until 8am on September 18th. At 9 a.m. on the same day, Israeli and foreign journalists who arrived at the camp found hundreds of corpses in it.
        According to Israeli journalists Zeev Schiff and Ehud Yaari:
        In addition to the massacre of entire families, phalangists allowed themselves terrible forms of sadism, for example, hung an activated grenade on the victim’s neck. In one most terrible act of barbarism, a child was kicked to death by a man wearing spiked boots. All the activities of the phalangists in Sabra and Chatil seemed to be entirely directed against civilians.
        ...
        We have many descriptions of rape, rape of pregnant women who had their fruit cut afterwards, women with their hands chopped off, earrings torn from their ears


        September 16 afternoon [even before the massacre] 5 elders with a white flag came out of the camp, who wanted to ask the Israelis to stop shelling the camps with artillery. . The same data, regardless of Kurtis, is given by two Western journalists in Beirut in 1982 - leftist activists and long-standing Israeli critics Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shon.
        The camp residents interviewed by them claimed that the killed parliamentarians wanted to explain to the Israelis that 1) the camps are in a state of complete surrender and 2) that there are no weapons in the camps, as it was transferred to multinational forces two weeks before. [38].
        According to Kurtis, Israeli soldiers did not let out a group of women trying to escape from phalangists from the cordon zone.
        .
        Pierre Pein from Le Monde writes:
        “According to Palestinians, Israeli soldiers took part in arrests, robberies, beatings and executions directly next to and inside the camps. According to the same evidence, some of the men, children and adolescents arrested by the Israelis were later killed. ”
      3. Yarbay
        Yarbay 25 July 2013 15: 41 New
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        Quote: igor67
        Destruction of the city of Damur

        Hello, Igor!
        And what did this crime have to do with Hezbullah?
        1. igor67
          igor67 25 July 2013 18: 13 New
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          Quote: Yarbay
          Quote: igor67
          Destruction of the city of Damur

          Hello, Igor!
          And what did this crime have to do with Hezbullah?

          I talk with a refugee from Lebanon, an Arab Christian and he told me a lot about hezbol and I have no reason not to believe him, maybe your indignation is due to the fact that the Lebanese Armenians massacred in Karabakh? With this post, I answered Gromova, who, once again without knowing the history, is trying to get into the eastern junction, and I think it is not fair to compare the hezbola with the Soviet partisans, where did the refugees, the forerunners of hezbola, come from in Lebanon in southern? These were refugees from Jordan, if you remember then the King of Jordan used aviation against the Palestinians, that’s what the “brothers” warmed up, and what happened? Where are the indigenous people of southern Lebanon now? And how many are left
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 25 July 2013 18: 32 New
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            Quote: igor67
            I talk with a refugee from Lebanon, an Arab Christian and he told me a lot about hezbol and I have no reason not to believe him, maybe your indignation is due to the fact that the Lebanese Armenians massacred in Karabakh?

            Well no!!
            In that crime about which you write Hezbollah is not involved; that’s all!
            You know I am a Muslim and the views of Shiites are close to me, but not Hezbullah and no other terrorists cause me sympathy!
            And those who kill women and children are completely disgusting to me regardless of religion!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 25 July 2013 18: 32 New
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              By the way, here is the reaction from the website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Bulgaria. Reliably enough?
              http://press.mvr.bg/en/News/news130725_01.htm
            2. igor67
              igor67 25 July 2013 18: 43 New
              +1
              Quote: Yarbay
              Quote: igor67
              I talk with a refugee from Lebanon, an Arab Christian and he told me a lot about hezbol and I have no reason not to believe him, maybe your indignation is due to the fact that the Lebanese Armenians massacred in Karabakh?

              Well no!!
              In that crime about which you write Hezbollah is not involved; that’s all!
              You know I am a Muslim and the views of Shiites are close to me, but not Hezbullah and no other terrorists cause me sympathy!
              And those who kill women and children are completely disgusting to me regardless of religion!

              Here you are right, Christians having cut Sabra and Shativ violated Christian dogma, do not kill, and revenge is also a great sin,
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 25 July 2013 14: 12 New
      -1
      How sweet when people with drooling lips begin to justify the terrorists who, in particular, killed Soviet diplomats in 1988.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 25 July 2013 15: 05 New
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        Quote: Pimply
        How sweet when people with drooling lips begin to justify the terrorists who, in particular, killed Soviet diplomats in 1988.

        V1988 ohm))))) ??
        I would like more details)))
        February 17 1988
        Hezbollah Captured US Colonel William Higgins, Head of UN Truce Supervision Mission Terrorists demanded the withdrawal of Israeli troops from Lebanon, the release of all Palestinians and Lebanese from Israeli prisons. The US government refused to enter into negotiations.
        this case?
        I don’t think that Higgens worked at the Soviet embassy))
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 25 July 2013 15: 50 New
          -1
          Typo. 1985. Arkady Katkov, consular officer and embassy doctor Nikolai Svirsky, KGB resident officers Oleg Spirin and Valery Myrikov were captured. The data cites a retired colonel, ex-resident of the KGB in Lebanon, Yuri Perfiliev. According to him, one of the hostages, Arkady Katkov, the criminals shot, "in order to prove the seriousness of their intentions." Imad Mguniy headed the operation, the operation was a joint Hezbollah and Arafat.

          http://mishmar.info/taieni-specslujb.-imad-mugnie-po-prozvishu-giena.html

          Not up to date with this episode?
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 25 July 2013 16: 02 New
            +5
            Quote: Pimply
            Imad Mguniy headed the operation, the operation was a joint Hezbollah and Arafat

            I am more than up to date!
            this is not true Zhenya and you know this very well !!
            Hezbullah had nothing to do with the attack on the employees of the USSR Embassy in Beirut!
            The abductors were representatives of the Palestinian organization Khaled Ben Al-Waleed Force!
            The operation was planned and directed by the former personal guard of Yasser Arafat, Imad Mugniya, nicknamed Hyena, who at that time was not related to Hezbullah, but was Arafat's right hand !! Another Arafat security guard also participated in the capture - Hajj!
            Great help to save the employees was provided by Valid Dzhumbulat, who provided very important information about the captors and the place where the prisoners were kept!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 25 July 2013 16: 08 New
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              Alibek. The information is voiced by a former KGB resident in Beirut.

              Mugnia is one of the founders of Hezbollah, which appeared in 1982. And the fact that he was one of Arafat’s personal guards does not mean that he had no relation to the organization. The Forces of Khaled Ben El-Walid was a screen, an organization specially painted on paper for this abduction. Nobody heard about her either before or after.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 25 July 2013 16: 24 New
                +5
                Quote: Pimply
                Mugnia is one of the founders of Hezbollah, which appeared in 1982. And the fact that he was one of Arafat’s personal guards does not mean that he had no relation to the organization

                Eugene, a respected resident, does not say a word about Hezbullah’s involvement in the capture!
                Imad Mugnia in 1982 or 1985 had nothing to do with the creation of Hezbullah and, in general, with Hezbullah, then he hung out with Arafat and his * division 17 *!
                Mugnia was never one of the founders of Hezbollah!
                Quote: Pimply
                The Khaled Ben Al-Valid Forces was a screen, an organization specially painted on paper for this abduction. Nobody heard about her either before or after.

                this is understandable, but Hezbullah is not to blame there either!
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 25 July 2013 16: 47 New
                  0
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  Mugnia was never one of the founders of Hezbollah!

                  And according to, for example, Kudelev from the Institute of the Middle East - was. At the same time being one of the main guards of Arafat. To be more specific, I will say that Mugnia remained a member of Fatah until 1982, when he joined Hezbollah.

                  http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/4445
                  There is enough detail on the dates.

                  And in the article I cited, the role of Hezbollah is described quite clearly
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 25 July 2013 17: 15 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Pimply

                    And in the article I cited, the role of Hezbollah is described quite clearly

                    in the article, yes. but as far as I know, negotiations were conducted with Hezbollah but not with the kidnappers, but how with those who have influence and can help, because they knew that Mugniye is a Shiite and a very devout person !!
                    Quickly looked through the article resulted by you!
                    It seems to me more political than actual!
                    But I do not rule out the possibility that he was introduced by Hezbolahovites into Arafat’s environment, but he was not the founder of the organization!
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 25 July 2013 17: 20 New
                      +2
                      Alibek. He was one of the first and most trusted members of the organization, joined it in 1984, while continuing to cooperate with the Palestinians, and with several groups at the same time.
  3. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 25 July 2013 08: 19 New
    10
    Hezbollah's help allowed Assad to seize the initiative. The reaction of the West is natural. And double standards in politics will not surprise anyone. In it, triplets are not uncommon. I remember laughing for a long time after reading the textbook for students "Political Ethics" ...
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 25 July 2013 14: 13 New
      +1
      That's for sure. Only the majority of those sitting here do not understand this.
  4. zaazua
    zaazua 25 July 2013 08: 37 New
    +3
    In the 2006 year, when Israel committed unprovoked aggression against Lebanon, Hezbollah was the leading force of resistance. Then, as a result of the monthly bombardments that inflicted countless wounds on both Beirut and other cities, Lebanon persevered.

    The conflict was provoked on July 12 by rocket-and-mortar shelling of the fortified Nurit point and the border village of Shlomi in northern Israel (11 people were wounded during the shelling [15]) with a simultaneous attack on a border patrol (killing three and seizing two Israeli military personnel) of the Defense Army Israel on the Israeli-Lebanese border by Hezbollah fighters.
    1. The gentleman
      The gentleman 25 July 2013 09: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: zaazua
      In the 2006 year, when Israel committed unprovoked aggression against Lebanon, Hezbollah was the leading force of resistance. Then, as a result of the monthly bombardments that inflicted countless wounds on both Beirut and other cities, Lebanon persevered.

      The conflict was provoked on July 12 by rocket-and-mortar shelling of the fortified Nurit point and the border village of Shlomi in northern Israel (11 people were wounded during the shelling [15]) with a simultaneous attack on a border patrol (killing three and seizing two Israeli military personnel) of the Defense Army Israel on the Israeli-Lebanese border by Hezbollah fighters.

      with all due respect, because you still live in Israel (judging by the flag), you speak from your bell tower. I’m not trying to accuse you of bias, but you can’t be trusted as your last resort.
      1. Professor
        Professor 25 July 2013 10: 07 New
        +2
        Quote: Gentleman
        but your words cannot be trusted as the last resort.

        Could you voice your version?
      2. zaazua
        zaazua 25 July 2013 10: 14 New
        +1
        but your words cannot be trusted as a last resort

        and you can ???
      3. zlinn
        zlinn 25 July 2013 13: 58 New
        +6
        actually the zaazua version is no different from the version of hezbollah itself, they even showed the film
      4. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 25 July 2013 18: 19 New
        +2
        Let's do it. Israel, of course, is not a community of angels, and its political leadership made mistakes and are often grossest, but ... In this case, Ms. Gromova committed a forgery when she wrote about "an unprovoked Israeli attack." Here is an article with a video from Al Manar (TV Hiz-lah) about how they attack Israeli jeeps in the interior of Israel.
        http://www.newsru.co.il/mideast/21jul2013/almanar_008.html
        If this is not a provocation, then what should I call it? Ms. Gromova, a question for you?
  5. omsbon
    omsbon 25 July 2013 08: 46 New
    +7
    In fact, it is high time for both Sunnis and Shiites to clarify one thing - the United States and Israel do not care about the suffering of both. They always support the side that is beneficial to them..

    This is their essence crocodile. You can’t believe them in anything, whatever they say.
    1. Professor
      Professor 25 July 2013 10: 06 New
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      Quote: omsbon
      This is their essence crocodile. You can’t believe them in anything, whatever they say.

      Before writing nonsense, check the history of the issue. For example, the conflict between Sunnis and Shiites lasting long before the United States and Israel appear on the world map.
      1. a52333
        a52333 25 July 2013 12: 21 New
        +4
        No one wrote that Israel and the United States “invented” this split. The author of the article writes that the United States for the sake of its geopolitical interests FULLY OPERATING this conflict, thereby heating up the already troubled region.
      2. andreitk20
        andreitk20 25 July 2013 15: 28 New
        +2
        "For example, the conflict between Sunnis and Shiites lasting long before the United States and Israel appear on the world map."
        You think that Jews lived in Israel in antiquity, and judging by the commentary, Sunites and Shiites lived and feuded there before you. It turns out that the Arabs are right, you are invaders.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 25 July 2013 15: 51 New
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          Quote: andreitk20
          You think that Jews lived in Israel in antiquity, and judging by the commentary, Sunites and Shiites lived and feuded there before you.

          Do not try to shift your ignorance onto the shoulders of others. Islam arose in 610 A.D.
          1. andreitk20
            andreitk20 26 July 2013 00: 02 New
            +1
            And when did Solomon reign ????? And still do not call strangers, try to study history is not one-sided, otherwise you can see Moses is still wandering in the desert. although maybe you don’t remember in what century he came to the promised land, cutting out a bunch of people along the way. Read the story, besides different authors, to put the picture in the head "Pimply", you look and something new will open !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 26 July 2013 01: 26 New
              +2
              I repeat - do not try to shift your ignorance onto the shoulders of others. 965 - 928 BC e. - years of the reign of Tsar Shlomo, in the Russian transcription of Solomon. One and a half thousand years before the rise of Islam.

              About Moses again - do not try to shift your ignorance onto the shoulders of others. If you at least taught something you knew that he had not reached the Promised Land, therefore - you could not cut anyone.
  6. Professor
    Professor 25 July 2013 09: 56 New
    +4
    For all these years, no one has ever been able to blame Hezbollah for terrorist attacks against civilians.

    You are lying, the explosion of a passenger bus in Bulgaria is directed against civilians. The rocket attacks on Israeli cities and villages are aimed at killing civilians.


    Israel has long held the southern territories of Lebanon, and still part of the country's territory is under occupation.

    Again you are brazenly lying. Israel has withdrawn its troops for the so-called UN Blue Line. Get better at writing articles.

    In the year 2006, when Israel committed unprovoked aggression against Lebanon, Hezbollah was a leading force of resistance.

    You lie and hold readers for fools. Hezbollah attacked an Israeli border patrol on Israeli territory, killing soldiers and taking their bodies. At the same time, Hezbollah fired rockets at Israel. And only after that, Israel gave a snot to terrorists.

    So, no one, except Israel and the United States, has so far been able to blame Hezbollah for terrorism, no matter how much the Zionists wish.

    Again lying, Hezbollah recognized as a terrorist organization, not only the United States and Israel. Hezbollah is considered a terrorist organization in the United States, Great Britain, the Netherlands, Canada, Israel, Australia and Egypt.
  7. Professor
    Professor 25 July 2013 10: 04 New
    +5
    A whole year has passed since the terrorist attack in Bulgaria, of which Hezbollah was accused. And then this question was not posed, and even the Bulgarian authorities themselves did not raise it.

    You are lying, Hezbollah’s involvement was proved by the Bulgarians, and it was they who demanded that Hezbollah be included in the list of terrorist organizations.

    One reason to incite hatred of Hezbollah is to declare it a Shiite organization, and therefore a group of "infidels."
    .
    She is Shiite by definition - get more thorough with your scribbles.
    Hezbollah, Hezbollah, Hezbollah, Hezbollah, Hezbollah (Arabic: حزب الله “party of Allah”, expression taken from the Koran (5: 56): “After all, the party of Allah - they will win”) - a militant Lebanese political Shiite organization supporting the creation of an Islamic state in Lebanon modeled on Iran.

    The party noted that it was adopted on the eve of the next anniversary of the victory of Lebanon over Israel in the 2006 war of the year.

    Explain why the winner has not climbed out of the bunker for 7 years, and the loser is kayaking on the Lebanese border? wassat
    1. Pacifist
      Pacifist 25 July 2013 10: 34 New
      +6
      Great trolling. Only this does not negate the main poor role of Israel in the mess that is going on in the Middle East. And it does not negate the fact that Israel attacks the territory of the country (Syria), which is not at war with it, but simply foully supporting and supporting a terrorist rabble that is fighting against the people of the country. At the same time, Israel speaks with great pathos of humanitarian values. Well, be consistent in your actions ... but for now this is not so, all statements about Hezbollah and attempts to translate the shooters, just an empty idle chatter of lurking freaks. Israel is no better than al Qaeda. The only difference is that Israel has a territory ... we will assume that the recognized and big dad is in the form of the United States, thanks to which this territory still exists.
      And now the United States has begun to openly support Al Qaeda and others like them ... guess where it will all turn and what you will say then.
      1. Professor
        Professor 25 July 2013 11: 09 New
        -3
        Great trolling.

        You do not know what trolling is. My comments are strictly on the article and all of them I can back up with material evidence, unlike your idle talk.
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 25 July 2013 17: 47 New
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          Great trolling.

          You do not know what trolling is. My comments are strictly on the article and all of them I can back up with material evidence, unlike your idle talk.

          Prof, and the material evidence in the safe is ok, didn’t replace anything?
  8. igor67
    igor67 25 July 2013 10: 51 New
    +7
    Let's leave Israel alone, and talk about the "partisans" who slaughtered whole villages, the true owners of Christian Arabs living in southern Lebanon. Something I don’t see. Elena has pity for Christian children, old people and women, many thousands of Christians are now forced to live outside Lebanon, and can’t come back, otherwise the peace-loving hezbol will meet them as “fit” am
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 25 July 2013 12: 13 New
      +3
      Israel was created all the same on the bones of the Arabs. No matter how you look. Of course you have a right to exist, just like Syria. Therefore, I do not accept your actions with amers as fair and honest. I think you will agree that I am right.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 25 July 2013 14: 28 New
        +2
        That is why 2 million Arabs and several hundred thousand other minorities live in Israel. Tell me, can you name the death toll for the entire time of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict? And I can. Since 1950, 51000 people, of whom 16000 are Israelis. In the War of Independence - 5000 Arabs and 6000 Israelis. Moreover, these are general figures, without division into armed and unarmed.
  9. albai
    albai 25 July 2013 11: 38 New
    0
    [media=http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJG0dRVezVI&list=PL698C80F31BCDD15A
    ] As always, Israel has nothing to do with it !!!
  10. albai
    albai 25 July 2013 11: 47 New
    0
    As always, Israel has nothing to do with it !!!
  11. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 25 July 2013 12: 29 New
    +2
    Arabs killed Arabs, Israel came and also began to kill Arabs, after thinking a bit they stopped killing each other and began to kill Jews .... in short, that's the whole story. The rest is rubbish, distorting facts and emotions on both sides.
  12. zlinn
    zlinn 25 July 2013 13: 52 New
    0
    Bravo, Elena, a brilliant article, as always, almost not a word of truth ...
    1. andreitk20
      andreitk20 25 July 2013 15: 31 New
      +2
      Since you are so angry, then the article hurt you and the truth is in it.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 25 July 2013 15: 52 New
        -2
        Shameless lies and the chanting of terrorists hurt even more.
  13. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 25 July 2013 14: 13 New
    +4
    <<< And indeed, those parties that state Hezbollah’s participation on the side of the Syrian government’s army - I emphasize the official state and the lawful army - “do not notice” the participation of tens of thousands of mercenaries (thugs) from other countries on the side of illegal armed groups , "Do not notice" the true terrorist international committing crimes against civilians >>>
    Extra evidence that, despite all the gigantic efforts of the Gameocrats and the Saudi-Qatari monarchies - applicants for governing the Islamic world, Assad WINS, and from impotent anger for their failures, all this shobla "friends of Syria" is ready to blame anyone for terrorism and hang on any shortcuts in order to justify their failures and the need for their direct intervention
  14. Pimply
    Pimply 25 July 2013 14: 30 New
    -3
    Bravo, Elena. So chanting terrorists - this must be able to. And it’s nothing that they recently blew up a bus in Bulgaria, do not care that they killed Soviet diplomats, killed thousands of Christians, were engaged in massive shelling of cities. They are for Assad, which means good terrorists. 8) Bravo!
    1. zlinn
      zlinn 25 July 2013 14: 48 New
      -4
      and I’m sure that Elena watched al-Manar and knows that the warriors of Alah in principle do not really hide their terrorism, at least from their own, but still lie, as always.
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 25 July 2013 14: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: Pimply
      And it’s nothing that they recently blew up a bus in Bulgaria, do not care that they killed Soviet diplomats, killed thousands of Christians, were engaged in massive shelling of cities

      Israel also engaged in massive shelling with much greater consequences!
      I would like more detail about the murder of Soviet diplomats, and Hezbullah?)))
      The fact that Hezbullah is a terrorist organization is a fact!
      the fact that they blew up a bus in Bulgaria is not a fact, just like thousands of Christians !!
      But the fact that they killed and engaged in terror is a fact!
      The fact that they killed the Hero of the Soviet Union Ziya Buniyatov is enough for me to understand who they are!
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 25 July 2013 15: 59 New
        0
        Alibek. There is such a small difference - collateral damage (here is an additional question about attempts to limit it) when other civilians die during the protection of their civilians (and I don’t need to tell you that this is a common thing in war), and when civilians are initially chosen as the main goal, while an additional goal is to kill as many of these civilians as possible. Should Israel be reproached for beating harder and harder in response? 8)

        In the year 1985. There I threw a little more in detail. The joint operation of Hezbollah and the Palestinians bargained for something from the USSR. Imad Mguniy led the operation. Which in 2008 ...
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 25 July 2013 16: 13 New
          +2
          Quote: Pimply
          There is such a small difference - collateral damage (here is an additional question about attempts to limit it) when other civilians die during the protection of their civilians (and I don’t need to tell you that this is a common thing in war), and when civilians are initially chosen as the main goal, while an additional goal is to kill as many of these civilians as possible

          Totally agree!
          Then how can one blame the enemy in this?
          Quote: Pimply
          Should Israel be reproached for beating harder and harder in response?

          In this I do not blame Israel, only because you have such generals as I respect, such as Alon !!
          It’s just that if there is an opportunity to strike the enemy with the least losses and this can’t be done, it can be reproached!
          About Mugniy, I wrote above!
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 25 July 2013 16: 17 New
            +1
            Quote: Yarbay
            Then how can one blame the enemy in this?

            Alibek, what? The intentional killing of civilians? As far as I remember, Israel did not suffer like that on a systematic basis, and the recorded cases were investigated and the perpetrators went to trial. Only this was in the 50s.

            Quote: Yarbay
            It’s just that if there is an opportunity to strike the enemy with the least losses and this can’t be done, it can be reproached!

            Alibek, I do not understand you. There is a tough difference - to strike at an armed enemy (and at the same time there is a chance of accidental civilian defeat - if the probability is too high, the strike is simply canceled), and a deliberate strike at civilian targets and civilians. I have a feeling that you don’t have an understanding of this difference.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 25 July 2013 16: 34 New
              +1
              Quote: Pimply
              There is a tough difference - to strike at an armed enemy (and at the same time there is a chance of accidental civilian defeat - if the probability is too high, the strike is simply canceled), and a deliberate strike at civilian targets and civilians. I have a feeling that you don’t have an understanding of this difference.

              I agree to eat!
              but I think that not everything is simple there !!
              All of you there are well bred and Arabs, and Jews!
              In your opinion, it’s normal when 3 people were wounded during shelling by the enemy, and in response three houses and hundreds of innocent people killed were demolished?
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 25 July 2013 16: 38 New
                +7
                Correctly. They are "bred" by the leaders of Arab terrorist groups. Because the death of some, it is income for others. A whole industry of terrorism has appeared and is comfortable. And Israel is his same sacrifice as Lebanon, Syria or Iraq.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 25 July 2013 16: 50 New
                  +1
                  Clear big plus
                2. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 25 July 2013 16: 51 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Spade
                  They are "bred" by the leaders of Arab terrorist groups.

                  and some mighty Zionist organizations, in principle, apparently the terrorist organizations work for them!
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 25 July 2013 17: 07 New
                    +3
                    But why the Zionists? They need peace and quiet in order to ensure the influx of Jews into Israel.
                    Or are we talking about different Zionists?
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 25 July 2013 17: 08 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Spade
                      But why the Zionists? They need peace and quiet in order to ensure the influx of Jews into Israel.
                      Or are we talking about different Zionists?

                      Alibek has a strange aggravation.
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 25 July 2013 17: 43 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Alibek has a strange aggravation.

                        No!))) Or maybe ...)))))
                        I think a lot about this recently !!
                        I do not whitewash Hezbullah, they are still bandits, but it’s also wrong to blame everything on them!
                      2. Pimply
                        Pimply 25 July 2013 17: 44 New
                        -1
                        Alibek, no one blames them all. But what is there is that of them, and you do not need to invent excuses for them just because they are your Shiite co-religionists.

                        How not to engage in conspiracy thesis.
                      3. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 25 July 2013 18: 34 New
                        0
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Alibek, no one blames them all. But what is there is that of them, and you do not need to invent excuses for them just because they are your Shiite co-religionists.

                        didn’t even think !!
                        Above Igor answered a similar question!
                        Get Zhenya to them all, in principle they answer the same !!
                3. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 25 July 2013 17: 40 New
                  0
                  Quote: Spade
                  Or are we talking about different Zionists?

                  Seem different!
                  I have long been convinced that there is a force in the world that is trying to control the whole world !!
                  By conviction they are Satanists, apparently use the mask of Zionism!
                  And most of the Zionist organizations are normal, but those of which I speak have enormous financial opportunities and enormous power!
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 25 July 2013 17: 45 New
                    +1
                    Of course, these are the Zionists, Alibek. Bravo! Satanists are Zionists. Wonderful. Can you give me a definition of Zionism?
                  2. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 25 July 2013 18: 36 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Bravo! Satanists are Zionists. Wonderful

                    I clearly wrote what is hiding under the mask of Zionism!!
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Can you give me a definition of Zionism?

                    I assure you that Blanjorya Sanya by heart I know the definition of the word Zionism)))))
                  3. Pimply
                    Pimply 25 July 2013 18: 40 New
                    +1
                    Alibek, this is - hiding under the guise of Zionism - traditional anti-Semitic rhetoric, forgive me.
              2. Lopatov
                Lopatov 25 July 2013 17: 50 New
                +3
                These are not Zionists, these are TNCs. And they do not care about everything except their own income. Including the Jews.
                The fact is that the Zionists are those who believe that Jews have a place in Israel, no more and no less.
              3. Yarbay
                Yarbay 25 July 2013 18: 40 New
                0
                Quote: Spade
                These are not Zionists, these are TNCs

                Read shovels carefully)))
                and what is TNCs?
                Quote: Spade
                The thing is,


                The fact is that those about whom I speak have open slogans for everyone around them and secret ones known only to the elect!
                They are unlikely to have a genuine relationship with Zionism !!
                rather, they understand Zionism differently!
              4. Pimply
                Pimply 25 July 2013 18: 42 New
                +2
                Quote: Yarbay
                The fact is that those about whom I speak have open slogans for everyone around them and secret ones known only to the elect!
                They are unlikely to have a genuine relationship with Zionism !!
                rather, they understand Zionism differently!

                Alibek, these theories about the world Zionist conspiracy - or hiding under the guise of Zionism - are traditional anti-Semitic cliches.
              5. Lopatov
                Lopatov 25 July 2013 18: 46 New
                +2
                Quote: Yarbay
                and what is TNCs?

                Transnational corporations. A real and truly functioning supranational add-on.

                Everything else is from the field of conspiracy theories.
              6. Yarbay
                Yarbay 25 July 2013 21: 19 New
                -1
                Quote: Spade
                Transnational corporations. A real and truly functioning supranational add-on.
                which you don’t know anything about?))))))
                then my version is quite acceptable)))
                otherwise, yours is also classified as a conspiracy thesis !!)))
                If not, call passwords, attendance)))
    3. Pimply
      Pimply 25 July 2013 17: 07 New
      +3
      Alibek, can you explain what’s wrong with you? Have you believed in the Jewish conspiracy? Does the ZOG haunt you?
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 25 July 2013 17: 45 New
        0
        Quote: Pimply
        Alibek, can you explain what’s wrong with you? Have you believed in the Jewish conspiracy? Does the ZOG haunt you?

        I would not say a Jewish conspiracy !!
        But among those who are trying to rule the world, there are probably those who consider themselves Jews and, apparently, sincerely believe that they are doing their dark things for the benefit of the Jews!
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 25 July 2013 17: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: Yarbay
          I would not say a Jewish conspiracy !!

          Alibek, that’s exactly what you are saying, using almost Hitler’s terminology.
  15. Che
    Che 26 July 2013 20: 26 New
    0
    Quote: Spade
    And Israel is his same sacrifice as Lebanon, Syria or Iraq.

    You are right, it would be good if these thoughts reached the Jews. Maybe smarter would have done business with Syria.
  • Pimply
    Pimply 25 July 2013 16: 50 New
    0
    Quote: Yarbay
    In your opinion, it’s normal when 3 people were wounded during shelling by the enemy, and in response three houses and hundreds of innocent people killed were demolished?

    Alibek, I do not quite understand your logic. If there is no response, the shelling continues. And the next time five people are injured, and the next time they will kill 10. Are you a pacifist and a radical Christian who turns the cheek to another? Me not.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 25 July 2013 17: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Pimply
      Alibek, I do not quite understand your logic. If there is no response, the shelling continues. And the next time five people are injured, and the next time they will kill 10. Are you a pacifist and a radical Christian who turns the cheek to another? Me not.

      No, Eugene, you misunderstand, or rather, I do not clearly express myself clearly !!
      Having such a colossal advantage over the enemy, Israel is sure that it can conduct its retaliatory operations much more accurately!
      Moreover, long ago they could clear those territories from any rabble, but everything is done exactly the opposite !!
      Quote: Pimply
      Are you a pacifist and radical Christian who turns the cheek to another? Me not.

      I am Muslim!
      I am for justice and fair fight i for the rules of battle !!
      I am against the murder of women and children, against the humiliation of prisoners!
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 25 July 2013 17: 35 New
        0
        Quote: Yarbay
        Having such a colossal advantage over the enemy, Israel is sure that it can conduct its retaliatory operations much more accurately!
        Moreover, long ago they could clear those territories from any rabble, but everything is done exactly the opposite !!

        Alibek, "cleansing the territory of various rabble" is, sorry, genocide. How, please explain, do you see this process in reality?
        How more neat? More leaflets, more accurate bombs that will knock on the door? Have you seen the buildings there? Or in the know that rockets are fired from residential areas, often from roofs of houses or from school yards.


        Quote: Yarbay

        I am Muslim!
        I am for justice and fair fight i for the rules of battle !!
        I am against the murder of women and children, against the humiliation of prisoners!

        Correctly. Like a Jew, me too. But as a realist, I know that civilians die in war - always. No matter how you try to prevent it. Because your task is to protect your civilians. Trying not to hurt strangers. But first and foremost - the protection of their own. For this, there is an army.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 25 July 2013 18: 45 New
          -2
          Quote: Pimply
          How, please explain, do you see this process in reality?

          To permanently occupy these territories, to arrest or destroy all those connected with terror!
          Create a normal administration!
          Withdraw troops, let them hold elections and recognize their country !!
          Or, finally, to finally occupy and all who do not want to live in peace deported!
          Quote: Pimply
          this, sorry, genocide

          I don’t ask because it doesn’t have anything to do with genocide by the word rabble, I mean the terrorists!
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 25 July 2013 20: 51 New
            0
            Quote: Yarbay
            To permanently occupy these territories, to arrest or destroy all those connected with terror!

            Alibek, how do you imagine this in practice, if with every anti-terrorist operation the IDF raises a global high about how the Palestinians are offended? And by the way - children will definitely die, as the battles are fought in a dense urban area.

            What do you mean by normal administration? She will not be perceived, and her members will be destroyed.

            These elections are not recognized by the world community as being held under pressure.

            How do you see this deportation, even if the independent withdrawal of the Arabs at the request of the Arab states is positioned as genocide of the Palestinians?
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay 25 July 2013 21: 24 New
            -2
            Quote: Pimply
            Alibek, how do you imagine this in practice, if with every anti-terrorist operation the IDF raises a global high about how the Palestinians are offended?

            Oh oh oh))))
            It’s as if this howl is rising like never in Israel !! It’s enough to show political will and not be pawns in the game of the organization I’m talking about !!
            Quote: Pimply
            And by the way - children will definitely die, as the battles are fought in a dense urban area.

            And they already die annually !!
            At least this time you can tell yourself why this happened and that thanks to this, this will not happen anymore !!
            Quote: Pimply
            These elections are not recognized by the world community as being held under pressure.

            You inattentively read !!
            After the withdrawal of your troops there will be no pressure and the whole world will accept the results !!
            Quote: Pimply
            How do you see this deportation, even if the independent withdrawal of the Arabs at the request of the Arab states is positioned as genocide of the Palestinians?

            And you don’t care what the Arabs and the whole world are thinking and howling !!
          3. Pimply
            Pimply 25 July 2013 22: 54 New
            0
            Quote: Yarbay
            Oh oh oh))))
            It’s as if this howl is rising like never in Israel !! It’s enough to show political will and not be pawns in the game of the organization I’m talking about !!

            No, I don’t care. Because taking into account who is now in power in the USA and the EU, as well as taking into account all other factors, Israel can act only with a very big eye. I saw a 50000 demonstration in the center of Brussels during Cast Lead: black and black.

            Quote: Yarbay
            And they already die annually !!
            At least this time you can tell yourself why this happened and that thanks to this, this will not happen anymore !!

            It is impossible. Because there is a constant supply of attendants from the outside. And the cult of suicide bombers.

            Quote: Yarbay
            You inattentively read !!
            After the withdrawal of your troops there will be no pressure and the whole world will accept the results !!

            Alibek, I read carefully. You just draw a beautiful fairy tale, but I know an unpleasant past.
  • ayyildiz
    ayyildiz 25 July 2013 17: 12 New
    +3
    Quote: Yarbay
    the fact that they blew up a bus in Bulgaria is not a fact, just like thousands of Christians !!

    In Bulgaria, the bus driver was Turkish, like Israel to pay a pension to the family of the driver 100 dollars a month!
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 25 July 2013 17: 15 New
      +1
      150 dollars to her daughter before reaching the age of 18.
      1. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz 25 July 2013 17: 17 New
        +2
        150 dollars a month doesn’t seem enough for the EU?
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 25 July 2013 17: 30 New
          0
          This is a gesture of goodwill. The average salary in Bulgaria is 800 leva, about 400 euros. Plus the pension Bulgaria pays. Plus pensions from the Starbus company in which Mustafa worked, and the Bulgarian government.
          1. ayyildiz
            ayyildiz 25 July 2013 17: 34 New
            +1
            Pension company is unlikely to pay! And how much do your citizens pay?

            And the Bulgarian government definitely does not pay more than 100 dollars!

            I don’t blame, I’ll simply attach facts! All the same, that person was the nurse of families!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 25 July 2013 17: 53 New
              0
              Quote: ayyildiz

              I don’t blame, I’ll simply attach facts! All the same, that person was the nurse of families!

              Israel pays its citizens by law. Salaries in Israel are much higher - and pensions, respectively, too. Usually they coexist somewhere around 2/5 of the average salary. As, for example, in this case. If the attack occurred on the territory of Israel, the amount would be different, since other legislative norms come into play there. Immediately the attack was on the territory of Bulgaria, in the zone of its responsibility. Accordingly, in such cases, pensions and benefits, according to established standards, are paid by the state in whose territory the attack occurred.

              And Israel, accordingly, showed goodwill, and assigned the payment of benefits in 2/5 of the average salary, which should be a significant help to the pension for the loss of the breadwinner and to the pension from the employer. In addition, according to Euro standards, buses are also insured - so the insured also pays.
              1. ayyildiz
                ayyildiz 25 July 2013 18: 57 New
                +1
                Quote: Pimply
                Israel pays its citizens by law.


                I know that in Israel, too, not a few people were indignant about this! Why is it so small and not shameful for us to pay such a trifle!
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 25 July 2013 20: 57 New
                  0
                  In Israel, the average salary is 8000 shekels, 2700 bucks, in Bulgaria - 400. So consider why they were indignant. In principle, they are right that they were indignant. But the family of the deceased receives money not only from Israel.
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 25 July 2013 17: 31 New
          0
          Quote: ayyildiz
          150 dollars a month doesn’t seem enough for the EU?

          so the Turk perished, not the Armenian or American !!
          1. ayyildiz
            ayyildiz 25 July 2013 17: 39 New
            +1
            Quote: Yarbay
            so the Turk perished, not the Armenian or American !!


            So exactly hi
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 25 July 2013 17: 57 New
            0
            Alibek, the farther you go, the more nonsense you carry. Such a question does not depend on nationality, but on territoriality.
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 25 July 2013 17: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: ayyildiz
      In Bulgaria, the bus driver was Turkish, like Israel to pay a pension to the family of the driver 100 dollars a month!

      I know, but I don’t see the facts of involvement of Iran or Hezbullah!
      I think it was a carefully planned action like what they did on September 11 in New Orc !!
      It's just that this time everything went wrong!
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 25 July 2013 17: 40 New
        -2
        Great, you now consider September 11 a fairy tale. This tells me the man who fiercely defended the bike about the cut off ear. Bravo.

        Hezbollah actively used suicide bombers back in the 80s. Not as active as the Sunnis, but quite regularly.

        And here's another - what a surprise. Iran is ready to use the Basij Islamic militia suicide bombers in the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz region if it is attacked by enemies, said deputy commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Ali Fadawi on Monday. "In the waters of the Persian Gulf and the strategic Strait of Hormuz, any small operation will be of great importance," said the Iranian military.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 25 July 2013 18: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: Pimply
          Iran is ready to use the Basij Islamic militia suicide bombers in the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz region if it is attacked by enemies, said deputy commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Ali Fadawi on Monday.

          Zhenya is not such suicide bombers as in al Qaeda))))
          it is more figurative))))
          That is, there they are not going to blow themselves up to jump headlong into the abyss of hell!
          it is excluded !!
          And the Iranians are much more likely to chat!
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 25 July 2013 20: 54 New
            0
            Quote: Yarbay
            And the Iranians are much more likely to chat!

            No doubt. Plus, Shiite terrorism is quite different from Sunni. However, there are suicide bombers in it
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 25 July 2013 21: 29 New
              0
              Quote: Pimply
              Plus, Shiite terrorism is quite different from Sunni.
              I am against such terms, but I am no different from Sunni, but different from Wahhabi, which has nothing to do with Sunni!
              Quote: Pimply
              However, there are suicide bombers in it
              I repeat this not in the sense of suicide bombers in which you are all accustomed to imagine it !! This means that he will go on the attack, but will not blow himself up !! Suicide in Islam is categorically forbidden and all the famous Islamic scholars in the world and you are called Sunni and Shiite, although I do not divide Muslims into Shiites and Sunnis, they are all my brothers!
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 25 July 2013 22: 55 New
                -1
                Quote: Yarbay
                I repeat this not in the sense of suicide bombers in which you are all accustomed to imagine it !! This means that he will go on the attack, but will not blow himself up !! Suicide in Islam is categorically forbidden and all the famous Islamic scholars in the world and you are called Sunni and Shiite, although I do not divide Muslims into Shiites and Sunnis, they are all my brothers

                Alibek, there were Shiites who blew themselves up. I brought you several terrorist attacks.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 25 July 2013 23: 11 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Pimply
                  I brought you several terrorist attacks.

                  where he brought, I did not see ???
                  If so, then they cannot be considered Shiites ... since all the great ayatollahs gave fatwas to blow themselves up to haraam, that is, these poor fellows went to hell!
                  If you don’t believe there are sites of these Ayatollahs where you can write a question and get an answer !!
                  If you want I will find and give the addresses of sites!
                  It is one!
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 26 July 2013 01: 27 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    If so, then they cannot be considered Shiites ... since all the great ayatollahs gave fatwas to blow themselves up to haraam, that is, these poor fellows went to hell!

                    Alibek, terrorists a priori go to hell.
        2. Che
          Che 26 July 2013 20: 39 New
          -1
          Pimpled.
          Pilot Gastelo rammed an enemy plane and died. Is he your hero or just a suicide bomber? People for the sake of freedom make big sacrifices.
          1. igor67
            igor67 26 July 2013 20: 46 New
            0
            Quote: Che
            Pimpled.
            Pilot Gastelo rammed an enemy plane and died. Is he your hero or just a suicide bomber? People for the sake of freedom make big sacrifices.

            You first read that the crew of the plane Gastelo rammed, and then compare. You consider the Arabs to be patriots, just don’t forget the Arabs who slaughtered Russian guys in Chechnya, and don’t say that they are different Arabs, the Arab is everywhere an Arab, like and Russian is Russian everywhere, well, a Jew
  • stroporez
    stroporez 25 July 2013 14: 51 New
    +5
    Lord !!!! you don’t have to kill anyone or punish anyone. just do that in Israel found oil ............
    1. zlinn
      zlinn 25 July 2013 15: 02 New
      0
      and gas and condensate fit? lol
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 25 July 2013 15: 05 New
        +1
        Diamonds are closer to you, do not be discouraged.
      2. stroporez
        stroporez 25 July 2013 15: 50 New
        0
        Yes, at least some hydrocarbons in large volumes. Schob friends from the American island pushed to explain "what for" ........
  • washi
    washi 25 July 2013 15: 24 New
    +1
    Not as an advertisement. Now I read the Red Light - Maxim Cantor. I recommend, especially Swamp. There are free.
    At the beginning of the book, the investigator’s conversation with the liberal:
    L: All Bolsheviks are German agents
    S: So, the 1937 processes were justified? After all, there were judged spies.
    L: ......
    I also liked about Jewish organizations. It turns out that there is no unity among the chosen ones. In the area around Zion are Zionists. They are soft and fluffy really. But their brothers by birth, but not always by faith, are Jews who were first to be deported insolently back in the 15th century.
    It is very difficult in Jewish families. Politics damn it.
    Molotov Jew or Russian? But his wife is a Jew. Kaganovich? Trotsky - definitely - a Jew, a representative of Western capital. Adolf - hated the Jews, but used the help of the Western capitalists - the Jews.
    Holocaust organized by Zionists. But they could not predict the reaction of the Anglo-Saxons, who banned the resettlement of Jews to the ancestral territory. Relocation to Madagascar was also rejected.
    And what to do with a bunch of Jews that no one wants to accept? By the way, the mass extermination of Jews and Slavs began after the indicative "performances" of the Baltic teams. They showed an example of extermination of people. The Balts, like the Psheks, voluntarily dragged the Jews themselves for murder. It’s not enough that they dragged ... Even Himmler poured out.
    Selectivity policy. Democracy is worse than Nazism.
    Why is Germany to blame, and Britain and the United States are not to blame for the deaths?
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 25 July 2013 17: 45 New
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      In 1915, England proposed to gather Jews around the world and resettle in Palestine, and also undertook to control the squadron from the sea so that no one escaped. Maybe this was the best way out for the Jews?
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 25 July 2013 17: 59 New
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        In more detail, please - about the squadron, the 15th year, and so that no one escapes.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 25 July 2013 18: 51 New
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          Quote: Pimply
          In more detail, please - about the squadron, the 15th year, and so that no one escapes.

          killed)))))))))))))))))
        2. ed65b
          ed65b 25 July 2013 18: 56 New
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          I read the newspaper before the pre-revolutionary 15 years, there was an article there.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 25 July 2013 20: 56 New
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            Which one? The Balfour Declaration appeared only in 1917 and was somewhat different from what you write.
            1. ed65b
              ed65b 25 July 2013 21: 09 New
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              "St. Petersburg thought" did you read it too? And probably about 17 he declared it about Balfour, and at 15 everyone talked about it.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 25 July 2013 21: 30 New
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                Quote: ed65b
                "St. Petersburg thought" did you read it too? And probably about 17 he declared it about Balfour, and at 15 everyone talked about it.

                I'm under the sofa))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
    2. Che
      Che 26 July 2013 20: 35 New
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      Vasya.
      Thanks to the war, the amers were enriched like no one else. The economy was at the level, set the Germans on the Slavs and the carnage began. No need to go far - Syria is an example.
  • Pimply
    Pimply 25 July 2013 16: 01 New
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    I’m wondering if the administration of the site would publish an article about the chanting of Chechen or Dagestan terrorists in the spirit in which Gromov does this?
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 25 July 2013 17: 33 New
      +1
      We have already sung of them and on all channels of the so-called opposition.
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 25 July 2013 18: 53 New
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      Quote: Pimply
      I’m wondering if the administration of the site would publish an article about the chanting of Chechen or Dagestan terrorists in the spirit in which Gromov does this?

      of course not)))
      So they recognize that the site is patriotic !!)))
      that is, there are no amer options for NATO, too)))
  • Pimply
    Pimply 25 July 2013 16: 13 New
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    On Thursday afternoon, the Bulgarian Ministry of Internal Affairs released the names and photographs of two suspects of involvement in a terrorist attack in Burgas in July 2012.

    According to this data, which is quoted today, July 25, the Lebanese publication NOW Lebanon, both criminals, Meliad Farah, also known as Hussein Hussein, and Hassan El Haj Hassan are natives of Lebanon, one of whom has Australian and the other Canadian citizenship.

    Earlier this year, Bulgarian authorities reported that both suspects were members of the Lebanese Hezbollah terrorist group. Experts believe that the publication was allowed as a result of the decision taken by the EU leadership last week to add the military wing of the Party of Allah to the list of terrorist organizations.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 25 July 2013 16: 43 New
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      Quote: Pimply
      Earlier this year, Bulgarian authorities reported that both suspects are members of the Lebanese Hezbollah terrorist group.


      Bulgarian media reported that the terrorist who blew up the bus was 33-year-old Mehdi Jezali, a Swedish citizen of Algerian descent, who was detained in an American prison at the Guantanamo base between 2002 and 2004!
      Quote: Pimply
      July 25, the Lebanese edition of NOW Lebanon, both criminals, Meliad Farah, also known as Hussein Hussein, and Hassan El Haj Hassan are natives of Lebanon, one of whom has Australian and the other Canadian citizenship

      On what basis?
      I am familiar with the details of this case, very confused!
      Newspapers can write anything!
      They could write that it was Eugenny or Alibek, Even Romanov could write)))!
      There are no facts of involvement in Hezbullah or people associated with Iran in that crime !!
      There the American Zionist forgery machine crashed!
      Neither Hezbollah nor Iran have ever committed suicide attacks and never cheated takoe, moreover, they deeply condemned!
      Therefore, when they saw that they were in a mess, they did not inflate this case with the Zionist Amer forces!
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 25 July 2013 17: 06 New
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        Alibek, if you were familiar with the details, you would know that there is an official statement by the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry.
        https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/nownews/now-bulgarian-authorities-release-names--pho
        tos-of-2-lebanese-suspects-in-burgas-bus-bombing
        With a photo, publishes, by the way, the Lebanese edition.

        Quote: Yarbay
        There the American Zionist forgery machine crashed!

        Alibek, once again you will use a similar turn in speech - and the conversation between us will be forever over, and you will be sent far and for long. Did I make myself clear?

        The Hezbollah Terrorist attack of September 20, 1984, a suicide bombing at the American embassy in Beirut.
        On July 18, 1994, a suicide bomber blew himself up at the Jewish Cultural Center in Buenos Aires. The organizer is the same Mugnia.
        On March 20, 1996, a suicide bomber blew himself up near a civilian car, followed by an army jeep.
        Should I continue to list?
        1. stroporez
          stroporez 25 July 2013 17: 21 New
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          and how many people need to be killed Schaub is definitely considered a "terrorist" ??????????????? any murder is a sin ...... that’s how it turns out: amers, Britons, Well .. Jews kill people by the thousands, but ------ they are examples of civilization and democracy, if someone else does the same, and they ----- "stronghold of evil." I do not justify anyone, because ANY murder is a sin. And it is very mean when the Nazis teach "humanity" ...........
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 25 July 2013 17: 43 New
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            The issue is not the number of killings. The question is in methods and goals.
            In Russian law, terrorism is defined as the ideology of violence and the practice of influencing public consciousness, decision-making by state authorities, local authorities or international organizations related to intimidation of the population and / or other forms of unlawful violent actions. In US law, it is a premeditated, politically-motivated violence committed against civilians or objects by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually with the aim of influencing the mood of society.

            You have the flag of the USSR. The USSR killed people in hundreds of thousands. Suffice it to recall Afghanistan. Why don't you cry for the Afghans who died then?
            1. stroporez
              stroporez 25 July 2013 19: 52 New
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              and who gave them (amers, Britons, Jews) such a right --- to destroy people. !!! ????????? moreover, what is called "with utter cynicism" and a particularly painful way ...... .. zh, Jews to this day have blown up sho they burned stoves, but the fact that their "sidekick" of people alive with phosphorus burn them ........ and then they wonder how it is them, such "chosen" and they don’t like cool people. although they don’t resent it when they destroy other people, but try to touch the Jew --- the screech about the "Holocaust" begins immediately ........ and this is PPC as annoying. According to common sense Israel is such a fascism of modern times, paired with the Anglo-Saxons
            2. stroporez
              stroporez 25 July 2013 21: 00 New
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              yes, I don’t cry. but, mind you, I don’t have hatred towards them (Afghans) even though they killed two of my cousins. that hatred that is everywhere in the expressions of “universal people” ...........
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 25 July 2013 22: 56 New
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                And where, as you put it, is the hatred of universal people? Yes, no to the Afghans. You transferred it to the Anglo-Saxons and Jews, because you consider them guilty. You need a large and beautiful PLOT.
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 25 July 2013 17: 49 New
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          Quote: Pimply
          https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/nownews/now-bulgarian-authorities-release-names--pho


          tos-of-2-lebanese-suspects-in-burgas-bus-bombing

          doesn't open !!
          Mead made a statement, but the photos did not say anything, I did not see evidence!
          Quote: Pimply
          once again use a similar turn in speech

          But what should I call this organization?
          Suggest!
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 25 July 2013 18: 01 New
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            Quote: Yarbay
            doesn't open !!
            Mead made a statement, but the photos did not say anything, I did not see evidence!

            Alibek, there is a detailed report, on the basis of which, the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry made a statement. And I assure you - if the Armenians committed a terrorist attack, or at least someone mentioned the Armenian name - you would not need proof. You would scream that they did it. And it doesn’t matter if it is true or not.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 25 July 2013 18: 57 New
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              Quote: Pimply
              And I assure you - if the Armenians committed a terrorist attack, or at least someone mentioned the Armenian name - you would not need proof.

              How it was not needed !!
              If done, you need to prove to blame!
              I would need it!
              But this is not the first time you are showing your bias!
              What to talk about then !!
              If the evidence bases you all bring down on Hezbollah just because they are!
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 25 July 2013 21: 03 New
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                No, Alibek. If Hezbollah is not involved, I say so. Because I prefer to reinforce my knowledge with information from at least two sources.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 25 July 2013 21: 32 New
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                  Quote: Pimply
                  If Hezbollah is not involved, I say so.

                  So just Zhenya before this koment you justify me about the Armenians to justify what I never said, just to make excuses myself, and this is not the first time !!
                  Respond for yourself, for me you do not need to be assured !!!
                  As for Bulgaria, I did not see any evidence, although I was looking for it for a long time !!
                  I precisely repeat how in September 11 they brazenly tried to hang!

                  I repeat for me Hezbullah is a terrorist organization and hostile to my Homeland! I think so and I have good reason to think so !!
                  And I love my homeland more than myself!
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 25 July 2013 18: 03 New
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            Speaking of stone throwers. Remember your screams of fascism? You didn’t tell me the algorithm of actions, what you had to do in that case.

            Near the Shekhema Gate in Jerusalem, unidentified people threw a stone on the Egged bus. The Sieve Bet radio station reports that three people were injured as a result of stones falling into the bus.

            According to Walla News, all victims are minors. A four-year-old boy was slightly injured; a 14-year-old boy received moderate injuries. An infant is also injured, there is no information about his condition yet.

            Say something to the baby that the boy injured, from the age of five, trained to throw stones at cars.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 25 July 2013 19: 00 New
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              Quote: Pimply
              Speaking of stone throwers. Remember your screams of fascism?

              Once again, I’m writing this, I will be sent far and for long !!
              Your relatives and people like you scream!
              Quote: Pimply
              A four-year-old boy was slightly injured; a 14-year-old boy received moderate injuries. An infant is also injured, there is no information about his condition yet.

              So what???
              I deeply sympathize with the wounded children!
              Stone cast 5 year old child ??
              I say you are already sick on the head!
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 25 July 2013 21: 03 New
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                Quote: Yarbay
                Stone cast 5 year old child ??

                Alibek, and if so?
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 25 July 2013 21: 37 New
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                  Quote: Pimply
                  Alibek, and if so?

                  If yes, then beans would grow in your mouth !!
                  Well, if so, then understand and forgive, and not drive under automatic weapons to the police station !!!
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 25 July 2013 22: 57 New
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                    Let go throw stones again?
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 25 July 2013 23: 18 New
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                      Quote: Pimply
                      Let go throw stones again?

                      Mlyn no shoot !!))))))))))))))
                      I’ve answered you a hundred times, you still pretend that you don’t get an answer !!)))
                      It is enough to talk with parents and strictly warn them that if you do not take care of raising a child, the state will be forced to take their parental rights from them and raise the child itself !! This is one of the options !!
                      My son is almost the same age, if you give him a stone in his hands and say, throw it, he will throw it and don’t understand that he did the wrong thing! If the difference between a 5 year old child and a 10, 12 year old child doesn’t reach you, then I need you it’s impossible to explain it !! But Thank God you have officers like General Alon who understand what I'm talking about, not only these stupid soldiers who scared the child !!
                      1. Pimply
                        Pimply 26 July 2013 01: 28 New
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                        Quote: Yarbay
                        It is enough to talk with parents and strictly warn them that if you do not take care of raising a child, the state will be forced to take their parental rights from them and raise the child itself !! This is one of the options !!

                        So we talked. The mother refused to take the child, demanded that he be with the father together. Then they were taken together, recorded a violation, handed over to the Palestinian police.
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 26 July 2013 02: 29 New
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                        Quote: Pimply
                        Then they were taken together, recorded a violation, handed over to the Palestinian police

                        You're talking nonsense again !!!
                        I repeat the child could not be scared and somewhere to take !!!
                        They took them together in vain !!!
                        GOT IT ?????
                        Your soldiers acted like villains !!!
                        If it doesn’t come to General Alon, he will explain to you in Hebrew !!
  • ed65b
    ed65b 25 July 2013 17: 41 New
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    We also put various organizations on the lists of terrorists, however this does not prevent their representatives from moving freely around the world after receiving political asylum in the United States and England. And the Jews to harbor on their territory criminals and murderers of Jewish nationality who escaped from Russia. so you are as duplicitous as the whole western world.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 25 July 2013 17: 57 New
      +1
      Can be more?
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 25 July 2013 18: 58 New
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        About whom in more detail about Nevzlin and director Talkov? or about the terrorist Zakayev?
  • za VDV
    za VDV 25 July 2013 19: 44 New
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    She is also the stage of oppression of the country .... Like a Muslim - it means a terrorist. It is good that we Russians evaluate the situation wisely .... And in America, citizens have long believed that.
  • MaKeNa
    MaKeNa 25 July 2013 19: 51 New
    +1
    Time goes by and once again proves how cool it is, and the USA continues its IMPERIALIST POLICY !!! The imperialists are the most natural, and all the nonsense about democracy and freedom is their usual justification of their actions for 100 years !!
  • ed65b
    ed65b 25 July 2013 20: 36 New
    +1
    Yes, and Jews are ahead of the rest, in orderly rows of dense columns. the first hucksters of the world, bloodsuckers and bedbugs, so Hitler spoke of them in "my struggle."
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 25 July 2013 21: 38 New
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      Quote: ed65b
      Yes, and Jews are ahead of the rest, in orderly rows of dense columns. the first hucksters of the world, bloodsuckers and bedbugs, so Hitler said about them in "my fight"

      For you, Hitler and his statements are autotet?
  • faraon
    faraon 25 July 2013 22: 33 New
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    [quote = Yarbay] I am Muslim!
    I am for justice and fair fight i for the rules of battle !!
    I am against the murder of women and children, against the humiliation of prisoners! [/ qu
    Yes, God forbid your ears, but with regret it turns out with accuracy and vice versa. Your co-religionists, hiding behind the green yellow black banners of Islam, are trying to plunge the world into the abyss of the Middle Ages, blaming everyone and everything for their troubles. And when they begin to give a decent answer with snot on their nose crawling with an appeal to the world community, to the same enemies of their own USA, to the geyropu, and to Russia with a request to tempt Israel. And believe me if it weren’t for your liberal views and threats towards Israel. There were no problems with Gaza, the Palestinian question in general I wouldn’t rise. In Syria and Lebanon it would be much calmer.
    And all this because of double standards in relation to those who are trying to do something in the fight against the dominance of Islamic extremism. If Israel is America’s ally, then it is against Assad. (Such comments are very close) And no one wondered why Israel needs this haemorrhoids .If it is true that if Assad loses this whole gang is at a stretch of outstretched hands. If for you Russians this is a theory, then for us it is a practice, a view from the window.
    As for Elena, I wrote to her in a personal letter and I will say on the forum before you are going to cover events in the Middle East, Nevertheless, work on the material before you post it on the forum for discussion. Believe Elena, not everyone on the forum is suckers who silently harass your I will cook, but there are people who are not lazy and will put the laundresses in an awkward position with facts.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 25 July 2013 23: 24 New
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      Quote: faraon
      And when they begin to give a decent answer with snot on their nose, they crawl with an appeal to the world community, to the same enemies of their USA, to the geyropu, and to Russia with a request to curb Israel.

      And with this I agree and do not argue)))))))))))
      You are not lucky with your neighbors, however, like us))))))
      Quote: faraon
      And believe me, if not for your liberal views and threats towards Israel.

      Stop stop stop))))
      You do not confuse me with anyone)))
      Israel is a friendly country for me and my country !!!
      This is definitely !!
      Quote: faraon
      there were no problems with Gaza; the Palestinian question would not have risen at all.

      I think a little differently !! I think a completely different organization is interested in this, both the Jews and the Arabs are their hostages !! I wrote what above, but Zhenya will be offended if I call!
      Quote: faraon
      If for you Russians
      I am not a Russian!