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CARTE BLANCHE. Propaganda - on the army

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CARTE BLANCHE. Propaganda - on the armyLegends and myths about the Armed Forces of Russia do not stand up to criticism


From the grandiose July teachings of the BBO there will be made a variety of conclusions. I would like to draw attention to one aspect concerning not only these exercises, - the coverage of military construction in the Russian Federation by the domestic media.

Of course, as in almost all other aspects of today's Russian life, extremes dominate. At one extreme here is beautiful soul. If we follow it, everything is either fine or great in the Armed Forces, there is no third option. All the teachings are unprecedented in scale and success achieved, the whole new technique has no analogues.

At the same time, journalists conducting this line demonstrate surprising forgetfulness. And it is possible that this forgetfulness is not simulated, they actually do not remember what they said at least a year ago. For example, at the beginning of this year we were long and enthusiastically told about the largest for the post-Soviet history Navy exercises in the Mediterranean and Black Seas, although in fact the maritime component of the Vostok-2010 exercises two and a half years earlier was much bigger. But who remembers it? Also, unprecedentedly large-scale joint Russian-Chinese naval exercises in the Sea of ​​Japan were announced in early July, although even last year, similar exercises in the Yellow Sea were much larger, and neither did any other comparison with the 2005 maneuvers of the year. . Such chronic forgetfulness greatly devalues ​​the word “unprecedented”, although it is fully applicable to the latest teachings of the BBO, they are unprecedented in scale for the entire post-Soviet period not only for Russia, but for the whole world, no matter how surprising it sounds. We managed to get around even the Chinese, but there is simply no comparison with NATO.

However, it is not very clear, but is there any point in making claims against such media? After all, they are engaged not in information, but in propaganda, and in this direction are very effective. At the same time, in some other domestic media outlets, the exact opposite line was clearly revealed. In accordance with it, in our army and on navy everything is either terrible or monstrous; again, no third is given. It must be admitted that in the pre-Duke’s era, this line of reporting was very close to reality, so the position of the relevant media seemed honest. However, in the past five years, the situation in the army has become much more complicated and less unambiguous. But these media can no longer "change the record."

The earlier fair scourging of the lack of combat training has now been replaced by claims to increasingly numerous maneuvers at levels much higher than the battalion company. It turns out that this is a meaningless waste of money, especially since nobody threatens us (and when there were no exercises, threats, on the contrary, were everywhere). If you forgot to invite the media to the teachings, then the military are trying to hide their failures from us. If the media was invited to the exercises, it means that the military gave a show. And at the same time, of course, all the equipment of the military is old, which is absolutely outrageous.

Proponents of this line of coverage either cannot or do not want to understand that teaching is always good (except for cases when people and equipment are ruined because of poor organization). Even if the exercises ended in failure, this is very good, even wonderful. Because the teachings for that exist to identify deficiencies, and then eliminate them. Otherwise, it will have to be done in the war at the cost of very large blood. And the complaints that the military still show us T-72 and BMP-1 are absolutely absurd. Yes, we have a lot of old and even very old equipment, it is well known even without the teachings. But the new technology can not take in large quantities instantly out of nowhere. The Armed Forces of the country exist to solve the only task - to prevent external aggression. This task can not be solved without conducting exercises. And to master these exercises we need the equipment that we now have. And then she will have to repel aggression. Because the military must proceed from the fact that aggression will happen right tomorrow, even if in reality it will not be 20 years old. Of course, it is better to be healthy and rich, but if we are poor and sick, this means that we should try to get rich and recover, and not wrap up in a sheet and follow to the nearest cemetery.

But the arrival of new equipment to the troops for the same media representatives who complain that it is old - from their point of view, this is also terrible. Because the equipment is very expensive, and no one threatens us, so it would be better to spend this money on social programs and utilities. Moreover, we know this is the production of new equipment: all this “drank the dough”, and there will be no technology. The concept of “drinking money” generally dominates the Russian public consciousness. The fact is that a significant part of representatives of various peaceful professions is doing just that - they are tirelessly sawing loot, in principle, they don’t want or know anything else. And do not allow the thought that somewhere someone might be otherwise. Moreover, they are very upset that someone else is cutting the loot, it would have been better given to them.

As a result, propaganda is obtained here, only with the opposite sign. It is also focused on the requests of the leaders of the relevant media and their audience (readers, viewers, listeners) and no more (sometimes, oddly enough, even less) true than the usual propaganda. The media of both directions specifically select the opinions of experts for their concept, sometimes frankly “twisting their arms”. The author of this article has a reputation for harsh criticism of our military leadership and the situation in the Armed Forces, so during the days of the BBO exercises, representatives of some second-line media very actively tried to beat out harsh and merciless criticism of them. And experienced frank disappointment, not getting what you want. But I can’t help them because, in my opinion, there is no “nothing bad but good” in these teachings, even if they had a lot of BMP-1 and little network centricity. Moreover, the exercises did not show any obvious failures, on the contrary, taking into account the number of personnel and equipment involved and their spatial scope, they should be considered exceptionally successful.

The VBO teachings demonstrated that our Armed Forces are better than their reputation.
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  1. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 24 July 2013 06: 23 New
    +1
    Reputation will gradually change. An awareness-raising campaign to change the image of the RF Armed Forces can be assessed as quite successful so far. But it should be remembered that it is not based on halva-halva spells, but real actions to reform the RF Armed Forces and real actions of the new RF Armed Forces are not its basis. In this regard, why should she not be effective? True, only the truth, but not the whole truth ... - It was said in the 19th century about propaganda in the war (too lazy to specify by whom).
  2. domokl
    domokl 24 July 2013 06: 30 New
    +6
    Alas, whoever dines with the girl dances her ... So it was and so will be. Journalists are slaves of their publication. Tales of independence for the illiterate. There is an order, be kind to carry it out. Talented, you'll be in love, face on TV will show in any analytical programs. Independent, go where your views are interesting .. Not a format ...
    The problem of our media is incompetence. A good journalist is only a journalist. A professional military man should write. Those who know the army and its problems from the inside. But there are few of them. You don’t need truth. It's boring and unreadable. But the fried facts are cool ... Yes, yellowing ..
    1. 77bor1973
      77bor1973 24 July 2013 07: 58 New
      +3
      Journalists are people who believe everything and the first comer without bothering to look at the source.
      1. domokl
        domokl 24 July 2013 09: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: 77bor1973
        Journalists are people who believe everything and the first comer without bothering to look at the source.

        These are bad journalists. The good ones, on the contrary, are well aware of the topic they are writing about, which is why it is difficult for them to resist. In any event, you can choose facts to justify the opposite points of view ...
    2. aleks
      aleks 24 July 2013 13: 01 New
      +1
      I completely agree with the mass media, they say about such things - the shallows — that it’s not a barge — a ship, a ship — necessarily a ship. and ships — look at the directory — or are they being paid for something else?
  3. TRex
    TRex 24 July 2013 06: 40 New
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    About the technique.
    It’s not for me to judge how old it is for the most part, because I don’t have full access to the composition of units and subunits, and it is CORRECT. I can only judge by what I saw on the news on TV ...
    To distant 70When he studied at a military school, with enthusiasm and pride we were told about the successful use of Grad rocket mortars during the conflict on Damansky Island.
    To distant 80As an officer, he witnessed the re-equipment of automotive basic equipment when the KAMAZ chassis was massively introduced and the gasoline, gluttonous URALs were massively decommissioned.
    Just the other day ... I almost drank coffee when I saw the loading on the railway. platforms of these same URALS with "Grads" on the hump. They have an A-92 flow rate at the rate of 75l / 100km. They went crazy there? Where are the GSVG, YuGV, SGV, STGV equipment that was thrown out of the field from Europe ...? Near Omsk, T-72 tanks stood in linear kilometers in the forest. Really for 20 with more than years there were no modern cars for my army?
    After that you will become an old critic ... or an old nerd ...
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 24 July 2013 09: 56 New
      0
      Alas, in both the USSR and the Russian Federation, the Far East Far East has always been a poor Cinderella. First, South-Western Military District and then Western Military District are saturated with modern technology.
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 24 July 2013 10: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: leon-iv
        leon-iv (5) RU Today, 09:56 ↑ New
        Alas, in both the USSR and the Russian Federation, the Far East Far East has always been a poor Cinderella. First, South-Western Military District and then Western Military District are saturated with modern technology.

        Here it is, in vain. China is actively rearming. It has already armed with more than 10000 of the latest Type-99. And on the way Type-99A1. Russia needs to resume purchases of T-90, BMP-3. And to equip, first of all, the divisions, the newly restored Far East Military District.
        Southern Military District, primarily needs anti-terrorist weapons. 152 mm howitzers, with corrective shells, UAVs (drones), shock and reconnaissance, armored personnel carriers, Typhoons.
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv 24 July 2013 10: 44 New
          0
          With more than 10000 of the latest Type-99.A in service, the Type-99A1 is on its way

          either remove the cross or put on your underpants
          No there is so much Type-99 there is the basis of Type96 and 99's there are ok 800 pieces of which A2 is less than 100
    2. family
      family tree 24 July 2013 13: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: TRex
      I almost drank coffee when I saw the loading on the railway. platforms of these same URALS with "Grads" on the hump. They have an A-92 flow rate of 75l / 100km. They went crazy there? Where is the GSVG technique,

      Ural-375, Zil375 engine, carbureted, drove the "Glutton" Discontinued in 1992

      Ural-4320, YaMZ-238 engine, diesel, Fuel consumption: 27 l / 100 km at a speed of 40 km / h, the first set KamAZ-740, produced to date.

      Something like this soldier
    3. Lopatov
      Lopatov 24 July 2013 14: 00 New
      0
      So what? "Hurricanes" are also all on a carbureted chassis. And eat more. Because they have not one ZIL-375 engine, but two. Plus TZM also with two. These are really gluttonous cars.

      And, by the way, during the war they were supposed to work on the "single" AI-80. At least in relation to the ZIL-135 I heard so.
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 24 July 2013 14: 55 New
        +1
        Hurricanes will ride on the old platform. While KAMAZ will not master the new platform.
      2. family
        family tree 24 July 2013 15: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: Spade
        And, by the way, during the war they were supposed to work on the "single" AI-80. At least in relation to the ZIL-135 I heard so.

        Yes, the compression ratio is 6,5. Only the consumption will be even greater.
  4. ataker_pra
    ataker_pra 24 July 2013 07: 03 New
    +1
    The main goal of ongoing exercises is to challenge our “partners.” After all, the events taking place in the Middle East go with an eye on the Far East! In the Far East, we have demonstrated our readiness to strike at Japan and, if necessary, destroy American bases. Well, China was shown that we are here, everything is fine)) Although at the moment he is our ally, and not an opponent. The following West 2013 exercises will already challenge European countries. A real test of the troops is already a secondary goal, although no less important !! In a word, a good thing is being done, to continue in the same spirit, in the end, the fighters themselves receive valuable experience from the exercises !!
  5. Letnab
    Letnab 24 July 2013 07: 21 New
    0
    gas Urals? Where do they do it? I remember Zil-131 on gas, but the Urals ...
    1. TRex
      TRex 24 July 2013 07: 34 New
      +6
      You see - how young you are and how old I am. URAL-375, petrol V-shaped eight, displacement 6 liters, piston diameter 108 mm, 180 hp, gasoline A-92. In the east they are still in service. He was stunned when he saw.
      1. Mairos
        Mairos 24 July 2013 10: 05 New
        0
        If such remained, then it is not enough at all. Already in the 80s they were massively exchanged for Kamaz and diesel Urals. But what about the GSVG or TsGV, YuGV equipment .. ((How many in the 90s it was "disposed of" under this fucking CFE treaty. New tanks were cut to metal, but in the Far East they left old stuff. Well, that was the 90s. . "bloomed and smelled" democracy
      2. soldat1945
        soldat1945 24 July 2013 14: 27 New
        0
        Not only in the east, and in the Western district of the City at this base in the brigades come across! And it’s also full of KShM based on the BTR-60 with two Gazavskiy gasoline engines!
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 24 July 2013 14: 31 New
          0
          Most Gradov still in the Urals-4320 with the KamAZ engine
    2. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 24 July 2013 08: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: Letnab
      gas Urals? Where do they do it?

      In Miass, dear ....
      And in terms of gasoline consumption figures TRex was a little mistaken ... 75 l \ 100km - this is for a new car and professional driver, for a military driver with 3 months of training, the gasoline consumption figure is growing even more. Therefore, I fully share the anger of TRex.
    3. Mairos
      Mairos 24 July 2013 10: 02 New
      0
      There were gasoline ones. )) Now they put diesel on them, the same Kakmaz diesel, it seems.
    4. Poppy
      Poppy 24 July 2013 14: 25 New
      +2
      Well, on what? The Urals are on the 92nd, not even the 76th
  6. AleksUkr
    AleksUkr 24 July 2013 07: 24 New
    0
    Learning is light, and unlearned is darkness. It was, is and will be. The critics have been at all times. They just did something useful to strengthen the criticized question. They only replenished their pocket ...
    BUT NOT LOOKING FOR ANYTHING - EVERYTHING GOT THE RELEVANT SKILLS. AND THIS IS ALREADY WELL!
    AND AS A RESULT:
    Vladimir Putin thanked the Ministry of Defense for conducting exercises in the Eastern Military District. On Tuesday, Sergei Shoigu reported to the president about the outcome and completion of a sudden audit. These teachings have become the largest in recent history of Russia.
  7. VadimSt
    VadimSt 24 July 2013 07: 53 New
    +2
    And you need to master the technique that we now have on these exercises. And then she will have to repel aggression. Because the military must proceed from the fact that aggression will happen tomorrow, even if in reality it will not be 20 years old.

    + Based on the current moment, objectively and realistically!
  8. Grenz
    Grenz 24 July 2013 08: 09 New
    +4
    I read the comments and agreed with all the allegations. And the equipment is old and dragged it all over the country, because in the east even the famous Port Arthur Regiment and the Daurian Division were reduced, the fortified areas were destroyed. And our colleagues acted very successfully in the field and at sea. All this is so.
    I disagree with one statement that advocacy support was generally successful. It was mediocre. A girl sitting in a helicopter twittering about strategic maneuvers showing a couple of boats. The boy choked with enthusiasm and interviewed the GPZ commander. On the screen: “Teachings in the Eastern District” - and every day: one BMP climbs into the water, the Urals load on the platform and some other crap. Here from the average man the conclusion is looking at all this - is it necessary to spend so much money to carry junk from place to place.
    The US Army Information Service (I treat the Americans with trepidation, but if it’s good, it’s good for them) has its own newspapers and magazines (in circulation more than soldiers in the army), TV channels, a package of specially selected and trained journalists and press service officers , relentlessly watching, so that zhurnalyugi did not broadcast any nonsense on the air. Video selection Specials of the information service are selected for display by themselves, and God forbid, something will appear without the sanction of this Service.
    And before a business trip with reporters, military educational courses and an obstacle course. Failed - out.
    It is prestigious to be in a team of war correspondents. So it was with us. Recall that poets and writers came out of war correspondents. Yes, today is the same Baranets and others.
    But today, writing about the Army in many of our media is considered a bastard (I agree with the statement "To whom belong").
    So, the conclusion is that we need to recreate a professional system of outreach support for such large-scale events. And not only them. 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX we also lost almost in the information plan. THOSE. the article is correct but the results are still few.
  9. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 24 July 2013 08: 31 New
    +1
    At the same time, journalists conducting the specified line demonstrate amazing forgetfulness. Moreover, it is possible that this forgetfulness is not played

    It’s not a matter of forgetfulness - it’s a matter of professionalism, times have passed when journalists were required not only a verified word, but also the accuracy of the content, when they checked their texture with archives and other official sources many times .... the main thing now is in the absurd title and in the "fried" facts ...
    The former just scourging of the lack of combat training has now been replaced by claims to more and more numerous exercises at levels much higher than the battalion company.

    ... and you are sure that this is not "ORDERED" material, on the one hand, and on the other - how to otherwise conceal the lack of professionalism, if you do not criticize everything and everyone ....
    The VBO teachings demonstrated that our Armed Forces are better than their reputation.

    This once again confirms the correctness of the conclusion that the overwhelming majority of fierce criticism of the sun is the ORDERING MATERIAL! It is necessary to work out the grandees provided by some media outlets by various foreign organizations. Who creates our reputation for us - primarily the media, TV! After all, the army is strong not only with weapons, but also with the strength of spirit and is defeated not only in battle, but also through its moral decay ... That’s “TEST”, but not with different “VOICES ...”, but with the voices of our “zhurnalyug” who sold their soul and their “divine gift” for thirty “silver coins”.
  10. Alexanderlaskov
    Alexanderlaskov 24 July 2013 08: 38 New
    -1
    Yes, the media play a big role. Let them not be lazy and tell us about the successes of our Army.
  11. Asgard
    Asgard 24 July 2013 09: 17 New
    +2
    Let's start with a quote.
    Proponents of this line of reporting are either unable or unwilling to understand that exercise is always good (except when people and equipment are ruined due to poor organization). Even if the exercises ended in failure, this is very good, even wonderful. Because teachings exist for that purpose in order to identify shortcomings and then eliminate them. Otherwise, it will have to be done in the war at the cost of a lot of blood.
    Then I agree ....
    What is the difference between the Black Sea exercises and recently held in July.
    I already wrote, the lack of a plan of exercises !!! There was no combat mission !!! Work off interactions ...
    The suddenness of the exercises is NOT GOOD. This is nonsense. The named General Shoigu himself is surprised that he was pulled out of bed))? But he should know about TEACHINGS one of the first months in TWO and develop "plans" for ....
    For the troops and commanders, they MUST be sudden, so that the ARMY was READY ALWAYS ...

    And what did WE see .....? if to ANALYZE ???
    There was a DEMONSTRATION .... The troops left somewhere, at unprepared training grounds (without inspectors from the General Staff)), something went there and returned "home" for a long time ... the media and the president lost interest in them)))) to a z u x a

    As for the old technology ...
    Not everything is so bad. These "devices" can be repaired in any "shed", they will work when computers, UAVs, and the command and control system with the help of "Taiwanese" tablets are introduced into the troops))))
    And the combat mission will be performed and save the lives of Fighters. (This is the main thing) ....

    Propaganda, YES suffering. Why??? There is NO professionalism among the "zhurnalyug" because correctly written at the top of the comments, boys and girls with a microphone in their hands can not board the helicopter, showing a finger .... engage in propaganda ....

    According to the results of the exercises, can someone tell me what CONCLUSIONS were made ????
    Something will change in terms of the organization of combat training work?
    NO INSTITUTIONS, teachers DISCOVERED, at the General Staff clever ANALYTICS cleared (under the pretext-there is nothing to be clever here)) The combat-ready parts of the GRU are disbanded and somehow they are in no hurry to collect them ????

    Questions, questions ???
    what propaganda is there. Seriousness, hence the polar assessments of everything.
    The beauty of it in half-tones (and no one sees it))))
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 24 July 2013 09: 54 New
      +1
      Get down from the armored car and climb onto the KAMAZ.
      . The named General Shoigu himself is surprised that he was pulled out of bed))? But he should know about TEACHINGS one of the first months in TWO and develop "plans" for holding ..

      The BP plan is written much in advance and guidance on them is in the know.
      something went there and returned home for a long time ... the media and the president lost interest in them))))

      Do you have a legend? / Share with the public?
      NO INSTITUTIONS, teachers DISCOVERED, at the General Staff of clever ANALYTICS removed (under the pretext, there is nothing to be clever)

      Are you selling cemetery places or white sheets?

      Threat only better to write Fence and vigorously yellow color so it will be worthless.
  12. gene
    gene 24 July 2013 09: 49 New
    -1
    The fact that the exercises are carried out is definitely good. But they must be consistent with the nature of the threats, the nature of modern warfare. I am sure that in modern war, much of what is shown will be just an object for defeat. There is still a need to think about what is more in such teachings — benefit or harm.
  13. leon-iv
    leon-iv 24 July 2013 09: 51 New
    0
    O_o. Did Khramchikhin write this? So you urgently need a car for winter tires to change the snow will go.
    1. Zhaman-Urus
      Zhaman-Urus 24 July 2013 15: 15 New
      +1
      No friend, the rubber needs to be changed, if God forgive me, Felgenhauer will praise the Russian Army.
  14. Luger
    Luger 24 July 2013 10: 39 New
    +1
    Yeah, just give the media “fried”, and the negative suits them more than the positive, probably all the same, somehow the media learns to present the information in a slightly different way, I don’t urge to praise and show everything in a positive way, it seems to me that you should try to objectively assess the situation, especially when it comes to such large-scale things and important as national security
  15. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 24 July 2013 10: 46 New
    +2
    Three journalists ride the train: corrupt, independent and neutral, and eat pizza. The last piece remains on the plate and then the train enters the tunnel. When I left - there is no pizza. Question: Who ate the last piece?
    Answer: A sales journalist because the rest are mythical characters

    P.S. At least one normal and objective article for today from what I read.
  16. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 24 July 2013 12: 51 New
    +1
    the journalists divorced .... horror ..... and sometimes their incompetence makes you think about their professional suitability ... remember before you said ... write - not toss stones ...