Military Review

Russia loses India

However, Moscow still has a chance to give new impetus to bilateral MTC

Despite the seemingly stable nature of Russian-Indian relations, the level of Russia's strategic influence in this largest Eurasian power is declining. The Russian foreign policy course focused on the concept of a strategic triangle, the decorative projects of BRICS and the SCO, are increasingly not in line with the real picture of the situation in South Asia and the Asia-Pacific region. Therefore, today the Russian Federation is facing a fateful choice: to pursue a meaningless multi-vector policy or to take decisive steps to form the military-political axis Moscow-New Delhi.

23 – 24 June in India, US Secretary of State John Kerry paid an official visit to India. The American-Indian talks were held on such important issues as the evolution of the regional architecture of Asia, the settlement of the crisis in Afghanistan, military-technical cooperation. The main outcome of Kerry’s talks with the heads of the government and the Foreign Ministry of India was an agreement to expand cooperation in the fields of energy, high technology, and defense and security.

We emphasize that the questions that John Kerry discussed in New Delhi, not only are of great importance for Russia, but directly affect its strategic interests. And the fact that India prefers to negotiate with the United States on these issues testifies to serious miscalculations of Russian foreign policy in a strategically important Indian sector.

US-India rapprochement

"The United States not only welcomes the rise of India as a world power, but also intends to help this in every way," said John Kerry in New Delhi with a policy statement. And these are not empty words. Over the past five years, the United States has been developing a consistent course towards rapprochement with India. Recall that 18 July 2009, the then American Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrived on a visit to the Indian capital and announced: "A new era is beginning in relations between India and the United States." The starting point of this new era was the signing of a bilateral agreement on the control by the United States of America over the use of modern types of weapons in the Indian armed forces. At present, bilateral trade has exceeded 100 billions of dollars, while American investments in India have exceeded 25 billions. At the same time, Kerry stressed that this is not the limit: the United States seeks to maximize the presence of its business in India, which in the next ten years should become the third economy in the world. For comparison: according to official data of the Foreign Economic Information Portal of the Ministry of Economic Development of the Russian Federation, in 2012, the Russian-Indian trade turnover amounted to 11 billion dollars, the volume of accumulated Russian investments in the economy of India is 623,5 million dollars.

Russia loses IndiaA particular problem is the tendency over the past four years to a noticeable weakening of Russia's position in the arms market of India. So, on June 11, the Indian Air Force made the final decision on replacing the Russian Il-76 transport aircraft with the American S-17. The Calcutta Telegraph noted: “The era of Russian leadership in Indian transport aviation starting to end. ” One can recall other examples illustrating this alarming trend: the loss of the Indian tender by the MiG-35 fighter, a Mi-28 combat helicopter, and a Mi-25T2 transport helicopter. In general, over the past two years, Russia has lost more than $ 13 billion in contracts in India. Moreover, the previously unshakable positions of Russian military equipment are being intercepted by the United States and NATO countries.

The reduction of total exports of weapons and military equipment from Russia to India is traditionally explained by domestic manufacturers and experts with purely technical problems: higher prices for components, a significant increase in the innovation and technological requirements of the Indian side for technology, and so on. At the same time, the obvious fact is that silence is maintained that military-technical cooperation is closely interconnected with political strategy. That is, if we call India the largest market for weapons and military equipment, then this in itself implies the corresponding obligations of a military-political plan. Only a few Russian experts directly cite the underlying causes of India’s increasing orientation toward military-technical cooperation with the United States and NATO. Thus, the expert of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies (CAST), Ruslan Aliev, defines the political and not the technical reason as the main one: “There are global strategic priorities of the country. Indians fear the growth of China’s economic and military power, and a series of large orders from the United States is driven by a desire to strengthen its military-political partnership with Washington. ” From this point of view, the growing anti-American rhetoric of the Kremlin and continuous overtures to China as a priority strategic partner cause at least incomprehension in New Delhi.

Air castles of the Russian strategy

Recently, the Chinese-language Chinese publication China Star published a huge article titled: "The Russia-China-India Strategic Triangle: The Reality of Configuration." The article begins with smoking incense for Moscow’s wise foreign policy: “In December 1998, Russian Prime Minister Ye.M. Primakov during an official visit to India expressed the opinion that it would be desirable to form a“ strategic triangle Moscow - New Delhi - Beijing ”. The words of the then head of the Russian government turned out to be, though unexpected, but very logical. Said in New Delhi, they underlined Russia's interest in strengthening ties between India and China under conditions when Moscow expressed dissatisfaction with the bombing of Iraq’s territory by American aircraft. ” The whole tone of the article leaves no doubt as to who actually benefits the idea of ​​a strategic triangle. However, with Primakov’s resignation, this initially doomed idea continued to be the subject of serious Kremlin foreign policy plans. We can recall how in June 2002, the American newspaper Christian Science Monitor stated: "The Kremlin is building a strategic triangle with China and India." Further, in 2008, the pages of some Russian publications still flashed solemn toasts in honor of the decade of the strategic triangle. As a result, the whole decade was lost for the sake of building an air lock.

Moreover, the fascination with the idea of ​​one air castle led to the creation of other air castles, outwardly reminding oneself, if I may say so, the principle of the matryoshka, when grandiose geopolitical projects from a series of strategic triangles were consistently inserted one into the other. This is exactly how projects such as the SCO (BRIC) should be regarded. Currently, the main problem is that such projects were created in relation to the conditions of the military-political situation in the world, which are now irrelevant and have undergone very significant changes. If we recall the adventurous, frankly anti-Russian policy of the Bush administration, it should be recognized that the concept of creating a counterbalance to the US and NATO through the SCO was certainly correct. But today, in parallel with the changing nature of external threats, objective assessments of the outcome of the SCO project have emerged. So, 7 June 2012, the president of the National Strategy Institute, Mikhail Remizov, in an interview with the Internet publication Km. Ru ”made the following remarkable statement:“ The development of our relations with China is of some concern. The SCO, in my opinion, is mainly a Chinese project and its name reflects the essence of the matter. The influence of China is predominant. ”

Thus, the loss of Russia's position in India, both political and economic, has begun - so far the first fruits of the air castles of the Russian strategy. The continuation of the so-called multi-vector policy may have much worse consequences.

Impasse of a multi-vector policy

The National Security Strategy of the Russian Federation adopted by 12 in May of 2009 contains the following provision: “Transition from bloc confrontation to the principles of a multi-vector policy”. Theoretically, this situation seems to be optimal. But if we apply it to the real practical steps of Russia with respect to India and China, then we get the following picture.

27 September 2010 of the year. Moscow and Beijing signed a joint statement on the comprehensive deepening of the Russian-Chinese strategic partnership. An agreement between the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China on cooperation in the fight against terrorism, separatism and extremism was also signed.

December 21 2010 of the year. Russia and India signed an agreement on joint fight against terrorism and the exchange of intelligence information. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stated that the Russian-Indian strategic partnership implies not only the highest level of mutual trust, compatibility of fundamental national interests, coincidence of the goals and objectives of the development of the two countries, proximity to most of the pressing problems of modernity, but also scale and prospects cooperation.

28 May 2013. A decision was taken on Russian-Chinese anti-terrorism exercises in Chebarkul. “From 1 to 15 in August, Russia and China will hold joint anti-terrorism exercises at the Chebarkul testing ground,” said Colonel Yaroslav Roshchupkin, head of the press service of the Central Military District.

11 June 2013 of the year. The Russian-Indian exercise Indra-2013 was agreed upon, in which the military personnel of the Eastern Military District will take part. This year, these anti-terrorism maneuvers will be held in October at the Makhadzhan testing ground in India.

At first glance, nothing special. But a few weeks before Russia's decision to conduct joint military exercises with China on the Indian-Chinese border, a serious incident occurred. Recall that on April 15, the PLA division crossed the border with India in Ladakh, which for fifty years has been a zone of smoldering border conflict. Indian border guards met the Chinese. The settlement of the incident took place on May 5: the military of both sides retreated to their original positions. We emphasize that Indian experts predict the beginning of a war between the two leading Asian powers in the coming decade. De facto, India is now in the process of forming military-political alliances in order to deter a potential aggressor. Therefore, Russia's multi-vector policy is not the best way to strengthen relations with India.

For completeness, let us consider the export of Russian weapons through the prism of a multi-vector policy.

24 December 2012 Moscow has concluded several agreements with New Delhi in the field of military-technical cooperation for a total of 2,9 billion dollars. In particular, the domestic military-industrial complex will supply technological kits for licensed assembly of X-NUMX Su-42MKI fighters to India.

17 June 2013, the Russian mass media have reported that Russia will supply China with a batch of the latest Su-35 multi-role fighters. The question of the delivery of China’s Su-35 aircraft, as well as anti-aircraft and naval equipment was discussed in March during a visit to Moscow by a Chinese state delegation led by Chinese President Xi Jinping.

Note that the Su-35С is a deeply modernized super-maneuverable multi-role fighter of the “4 ++” generation, with its tactical and technical characteristics significantly superior to the Su-30МКИ. In addition, India, through the words of the Chief of the General Staff of the Navy, Admiral Devendra Kumara Joshi, directly announced that China’s building up of naval power is the main concern for India. At the same time, within the framework of a multi-vector policy, Moscow is trying to export weapons another potential Indian rival is Pakistan. Even Russian experts consider such a course to be erroneous. Thus, Sergei Lunev, an expert in diplomacy and foreign policy issues, stated in the pages of the International Processes publication: “A substantial strengthening of relations with Pakistan, especially in the military-political sphere, seems to be unpromising. Supplies of military equipment can have only negative consequences. Pakistan is not so much willing to strengthen its defense capability, as it is trying to break Russian-Indian military-political ties. Russia in the 2011 year was unhappy with the loss of the tender for the supply of India 126 multi-purpose fighters and New Delhi’s attempts to purchase spare parts for Russian weapons from third countries. However, the desire to "punish" your partner by selling arms to Pakistan will cause only a sharp reaction from India. Even commercially, given Pakistan’s low solvency, losses will be large. ”

Taking into account all these “costs” of a multi-vector policy, there is no surprise at the gradual decline of Russian influence in India, both militarily and politically and economically.

Axis Moscow - New Delhi

On May 31, talks were held in Tokyo between Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. The results of these negotiations can be judged from the reports of leading news agencies: "Japan and India are creating a new axis in Asia." Special mention should be made of the point of view of the official Indian media: India and Japan raised the level of their strategic partnership to a new level, committed themselves to working together in the interests of stability in the Asia-Pacific region, where China is increasingly playing muscles. In particular, the subject of the agreement was the expansion of military-technical cooperation. India and Japan have agreed to conduct joint naval maneuvers, Japanese companies will be able to supply military aircraft and nuclear reactors to the Indian Air Force. Needless to say, henceforth, Russian exporters now have another serious competitor.

It is interesting to note that Russian officials have repeatedly criticized Ukraine for carrying out a multi-vector policy and have proved its futility to the Ukrainian authorities. But what is the real future of the domestic political course in the same format? Obviously, such a course has an extremely limited efficiency. And its result will only be the progressive ousting of Russia from India by the United States, Japan, and other interested parties. Meanwhile, taking into account the ever-increasing weight of New Delhi in the international arena and in the world economy, it is time to sound the alarm and take urgent measures to correct errors. Moreover, one of the main problems is that Russia today has virtually no reliable, militarily and economically strong allies. Given the ever-increasing level of tension in international relations and the increasingly distinct threat of a new world war, the issue of a military-political alliance with India is becoming critically important.

In this situation, the only right decision is to immediately turn the Russian foreign policy towards the formation of the Moscow-New Delhi axis. As the classic said, death delay is like. The potential of Russian-Indian cooperation is a very significant value. If we talk about the position of India itself, then it continues to demonstrate readiness for reciprocal steps. So, 21 in March, official New Delhi announced its intention to discuss with Moscow the possibility of signing an agreement on full economic cooperation with the Customs Union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan. The head of the Eurasian Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of India, Ajay Bisaria, said: "The agreement on free trade between the CU and India will significantly increase the volume of trade between India and Russia." Thus, our country has a unique chance to give new impetus to Russian-Indian cooperation. If behind this first step there will be a clearly developed strategic plan for creating the Moscow-New Delhi axis, then such a union of two historically and politically close great powers will have a direct impact on the entire future course of the world. stories.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 24 July 2013 18: 10 New
    Russia loses India
    It's a shame. I think that our politicians and industrialists should try very hard to prevent this ...
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 24 July 2013 18: 19 New
      Quote: svp67
      I think that our politicians and industrialists should try very hard to prevent this ...

      Co-production in India, I think I would decide a lot of things!

      And selling some technology
      1. AVV
        AVV 24 July 2013 22: 29 New
        Our leaders just need to decide what is more profitable, to have reinforced concrete weapons contracts and not be afraid for the intellectual property of the country! Or good relations with the other side, momentary, insignificant benefits and no guarantees!
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 24 July 2013 18: 20 New
      The devil is not so terrible as he is painted .. It is necessary to understand that India pursues a multi-vector policy where "they put eggs in different baskets", will not buy ONLY RUSSIAN (AMERICAN, ISRAELI, FRENCH ....)
      gig. This is their choice and their right. There is nothing extraordinary. You just need to raise the quality of export goods, especially weapons, increase the level of after-sales service, pay more attention to marketing. In a word, to be more co-competitive and, looking, new opportunities will open up.
      1. Very old
        Very old 24 July 2013 18: 24 New
        RAUF, India is losing Russia - or rather. Century Russia loved, respected, supported India
        1. zart_arn
          zart_arn 24 July 2013 18: 48 New
          I think no one is losing anyone. Relations are quite normal, even friendly. And nobody will lick asses in these relations.
          1. Very old
            Very old 24 July 2013 19: 59 New
            Well, let THERE write everything that comes to mind. Pavel is right. In a normal relationship and stay
          2. FATEMOGAN
            FATEMOGAN 25 July 2013 00: 21 New
            Quote: zart_arn
            I think no one is losing anyone.

            I completely agree with you, we are not only trading in weapons, the joint development of glonas, the construction of nuclear power plants, so without panic. He and the French still can’t sign a contract for the Raphaels, we’ll see that later they wouldn’t regret what the French planes chose.
      2. avt
        avt 24 July 2013 21: 03 New
        Quote: xetai9977
        The devil is not so terrible as he is painted .. It is necessary to understand that India pursues a multi-vector policy where "they put eggs in different baskets", will not buy ONLY RUSSIAN (AMERICAN, ISRAELI, FRENCH ....)

        gig. It is their choice and their right. There is nothing extraordinary here.

        That's right. The Indians have always been on their minds and do not idealize even the Soviet era. That's even dear Indira Gandhi - certainly a good attitude to the USSR, quite frankly made it clear to the then leadership that India owes nothing to anyone. They always carried out their policy as they imagined it. And they have plenty of ambition among them, “the ancients”. So worry about leaving the station - you need to grab bags, do not stand, you just need to work, make high-quality weapons.
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 25 July 2013 06: 11 New
          Quote: avt
          And there’s more than enough for them, the “ancients”. So, worrying that the station is leaving - you need to grab bags, you shouldn't, you just have to work and make quality weapons.

          Not in the eyebrow but in the eye, do not sprinkle ash on your head. Not everyone is as bad as they write and speak.
      3. knn54
        knn54 24 July 2013 23: 19 New
        The United States lifted the arms embargo on India. The embargo applies to the PRC. In addition, increased US investment in the Indian economy.
        But I think that Russia will remain India’s PRIMARY partner in the military sphere, it connects too much, including promising JOINT developments.
      4. Theophanes
        Theophanes 25 July 2013 01: 54 New
        ".... You need to understand that India pursues a multi-vector policy ..." India is trying to find allies in the confrontation with China and Pakistan. And our deals with Pakistan, in addition to these minute small profits, do nothing good. Rather, more harm. Losing India - lose a reliable ally in Asia and counterbalance to Chinese extremism in Primorye, Transbaikalia, Central Asia. The author is right.
    3. 225chay
      225chay 25 July 2013 06: 53 New
      Quote: svp67
      Russia loses India

      chewing snot in the last 15-20 years and curtsies towards America have led to this situation. I hope now our leadership will send the Americans to the cow in the crack. if not, then the allies will be disappointed
    4. aviator_IAS
      aviator_IAS 25 July 2013 13: 09 New
      India and China are geopolitical opponents, and equal friendship with both countries will fail. China has long been in awe of the nerves of the Hindus uninterruptedly supplying weapons to Pakistan. The United States sees the main threat to its economic security in China, and they support India to weaken its position. But you should not completely turn your back on India. Despite the changes in the foreign policy, our countries are linked by the history of many years of friendship and cooperation.
  2. ayyildiz
    ayyildiz 24 July 2013 18: 14 New
    Russia sells engines for fighter jets to China and they sell it to Pakistan putting them on the J-17! It was written in the foreign press!
    1. Very old
      Very old 24 July 2013 18: 26 New
      I do not envy Pakistan
  3. vietnam7
    vietnam7 24 July 2013 18: 19 New
    Moreover, one of the main problems is that Russia today actually has no reliable, militarily and economically strong allies.
    There are a couple of Army and Navy
    1. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr 24 July 2013 18: 55 New
      We just DROWN to the handle. Losing our positions in all directions. Only our political leaders do not see this, i.e. Taxis.
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      2. hommer
        hommer 24 July 2013 22: 17 New
        Quote: AleksUkr
        Only our political leaders do not see this.

        Here I do not agree with you.
        No Russian leadership (and not only the Russian one) it will not work to be a strategic ally of both China and India.
        When they are enthusiastic about the rise of China, I always have a question - why aren’t they enthusiastic about the success of India? By the way, the Windows, which we all actively use - in the latest versions by the names of the developers - is Indian. But they are comparable in population, according to forecasts, Indians will overtake the Chinese in terms of population.
        In the economy, India is showing successes that can be compared with China!
        Which of them do you want as an enemy of Russia? And there is no need to apply the geographical factor here, they say, China is a neighbor, and where is India a Devon! Times are different.

        Therefore, I consider the position of Russia balanced and pragmatic - multi-vector, yet it.
        Do you have another solution in this situation for the leadership of Russia?
        And the article is informative, plus the author.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 25 July 2013 01: 25 New
          Quote: hommer
          Which of them do you want as an enemy of Russia? And there is no need to apply the geographical factor here, they say, China is a neighbor, and where is India a Devon! Times are different.

          If I have not forgotten geography, India and Russia do not have a common border, make no historical claims on the territory, and although it is overpopulated, it solves this issue by exporting the population to Europe and America, first with work visas, and there they settle. He also has no interest in the Arctic. Technology prefers to license.
          With China, everything is exactly the opposite. They did not forget that Siberia was beneath them, their view of history: "Aggressive Russian tsars for centuries have sent evil Yermaks to forcibly seize the ancestral Chinese lands." And what terribly they lack of land and resources in general, it is known, and in Siberia there is both oil and forest, and that’s just not there. They have recently shown interest in the Arctic, and at the expense of whom they could get access to the Arctic Ocean, well, is it not from America to take Alaska? Technology is stealing completely shamelessly. And slowly populate the Far East, if the trend continues, then there will soon be a de facto Chinese majority, and there will not be long de jure.
          And between India and China there are just disputes over the territory, and for resources, and for markets.
          So sooner rather than later Russia will have to choose which of the two to be friends with. No, more precisely, even against whom to be friends.
  4. luka095
    luka095 24 July 2013 18: 23 New
    US efforts in India are primarily directed against the PRC. Americans need a counterbalance to China. India is perfect for this. Another thing is that the Russian Federation is really losing its position in India (and not India - it has always been pragmatic). And not least because of the lack of a coherent concept regarding South Asia. At least, a holistic, systematic approach is not visible.
    The article raises a problem of serious importance for the Russian Federation. Therefore, a plus.
  5. Odysseus
    Odysseus 24 July 2013 18: 32 New
    Quarreling with China is the last thing Russia needs now.
    Relations with China, which has the de facto largest economy in the world, with which we have a huge common border, are much more important than relations with India.
    Regarding the loss of arms contracts,
    then, first of all, it’s really a matter of technology (for example, the MiG-35 lost not to the Americans, but to the French, and for purely technical reasons)
    and secondly, if the equipment is at the level we will always find where to sell it, even if India finally gives in to the United States in sixes.
  6. Vlad_Mir
    Vlad_Mir 24 July 2013 18: 34 New
    It is necessary to enter new markets. Nothing is eternal under the Moon. In addition, India has long stated that it will not focus only on Russian weapons. Hindus have to say thanks! They supported the defense industry during a very difficult time. Politics is a complex thing, and besides, it is cyclical. Still can change!
  7. Belogor
    Belogor 24 July 2013 18: 44 New
    not surprisingly, the States play on the difficult relations between India and China, posing as a true friend and defender of Indian interests and simultaneously whisper to them what they want to hear. And if you put relations with India and China on the same level, then of course China is strategically more important to us by all criteria.
    1. Conepatus
      Conepatus 24 July 2013 19: 31 New
      + !!! I support it unequivocally. China often supports Russia in so many issues.
      India never. Out of India, an ally cannot be obtained, they are a priori only for themselves. And from China, an ally is possible, albeit not on all issues, but it is more than with India. In addition, China is the world's No. 1 global economy. And most importantly , China is a neighbor of Russia, I would say the most important neighbor of Russia. Here, everyone needs to build strategic relations.
      And India is only a market and not a very reliable political partner.
      1. Essenger
        Essenger 24 July 2013 21: 04 New
        Quote: Conepatus
        China is the world's No. 1 global economy.

        And when did China overtake the USA?
  8. Alexey M
    Alexey M 24 July 2013 18: 45 New
    Hindus are very smart people. They will never put all their eggs in one basket. Therefore, they will look for partners on the side. Yes, Russia and there is nothing special to offer them. Moreover, how many boats and ships we make for them. Faster on the side to buy yes and probably not much and more expensive.
    1. Conepatus
      Conepatus 24 July 2013 19: 39 New
      With the exception of the aircraft carrier, all other ships are done on time and the Hindus are happy. At the same time, France is slowing down the construction of submarines for India.
      In addition, Russia is the only country in the world that leases India a nuclear submarine. Nobody does this anymore. And they still turn their faces, bullish ungrateful.
  9. Tatanka Yotanka
    Tatanka Yotanka 24 July 2013 18: 53 New
    article interesting but everywhere a little inaccuracy
    New Delhi, the southern administrative part of Delhi, the capital of India. In the territory of N.-D. the main government agencies of the country are located, in connection with which the name N.-D. sometimes misused to refer to Delhi.
    1. Anat1974
      Anat1974 24 July 2013 20: 57 New
      And the article is not very interesting. Some one-sided. India, India, India. In the world, not only she. Under the belly, as already mentioned in the comments -China, it’s too early to dismiss Europe. It would be foolish to get in with India and get out with the Chinese, Pakistanis, etc. We need to maneuver between all of them (whether we want it or not). Such is life, such is the tile in this mortal world.
  10. Black
    Black 24 July 2013 19: 00 New
    Stapled by all means, truth and truth, are pulling India into their arms.
    Pakistan is an unreliable partner, Russia is not at all. A war with China is quite possible.
    On the other hand, India understands the threat hanging from the east and will rely on the United States, which, most likely, will by all means stir up this conflict.
  11. Per se.
    Per se. 24 July 2013 19: 23 New
    There was no need to squander the technology, India would soon release much without what she needed, what she used to buy from us Secondly, China has never been a friend of India, the relations of these countries are strained, and hope to be with the Chinese, and with the Indians mistakenly. Here we will lose India, as a true ally, and China, a very crafty and dangerous "friend." The policy of the Soviet Union was wiser in this direction.
  12. ksan
    ksan 24 July 2013 19: 40 New
    Article minus. Something chaotic and contradictory. 1. Russia did not acquire India in order to lose. 2. Commodity circulation between India and Russia (over the past 5 years) is only growing. 3. At the expense of weapons, India has not once stated that it will not depend on ONE supplier of weapons, while Russia is the largest supplier weapons to India (but not the only one) 4. Russia is trying to maintain "even" and friendly relations with all states of the region. And 5 - Throw yourself into the friendly "arms" of one country - automatically step on the tail of another. And where is the guarantee that the "tail" on which we step will not show us fangs later or the "friend" from our hugs will not rush into other, more "beneficial" ones .Not worth laying all the "eggs in one basket"
  13. waisson
    waisson 24 July 2013 19: 52 New
    yes, no, here is another thing that India wanted from us, it’s exhausted. Now I’ve fallen down to the other well.
  14. Onotollah
    Onotollah 24 July 2013 19: 58 New
    I want to note that the Hindu comrades are very cunning fruits, as well as the Chinese comrades laughing
    All of them, as well as Russia, are trying to benefit as much as possible from neighborly relations.
    The Americans are trying to quarrel partners among themselves, trying to prevent a possible union of Russia, China and India, since then the inevitable and merciless will hang over the United States and NATO, pushing them for a very long time, and possibly forever for 2-3 roles.
    Therefore, I believe that the mentioned countries (Russia, China, India) need to be friends with each other, and not against each other, trying to find consensus in resolving emerging issues and sending the United States and NATO to hell.
    It’s just breathtaking when I present a new fair order:
    Russia's European zone of responsibility: including all of Europe along with the former NATO countries, Greenland and Alaska with Canada.
    The Asia-Pacific zone of responsibility of China including Japan, Australia.
    The Arab-African zone of responsibility of India, including necessarily England.
    The remnants of the United States - a zone of cheap sex tourism.
    Something like that.
    1. SOKOL777
      SOKOL777 25 July 2013 00: 59 New
      Very nice ... We must write to Putin, let him figure it out ...
      1. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr 25 July 2013 02: 15 New
        Do you have a direct relationship with Putin? Then write, HE WILL BE ENVIRONENTLY EXTREME!
  15. Selevc
    Selevc 24 July 2013 20: 03 New
    A multi-vector policy was invented by the enemies of Russia in order to inflict more harm on it !!! Any self-respecting state has priorities in foreign policy and they must be adhered to ... And if you are engaged in multi-vector activity, you can lose old markets, but you won’t gain a foothold in new ones and then you’ll find out where ...
    In Soviet times, there was a very good term - Mutually beneficial cooperation - this is exactly what you need to adhere to in foreign policy ...

    The Russia-China-India triangle is the nonsense of the senile from the 90s !!! These three world powers are too different and the relations between them are too contradictory to build any strong alliances !!! And of course you need to be friends and trade with China and India, but without fanaticism - since the East is a delicate matter - and you will never be completely sure who your friend is and who your enemy is !!!
    1. hommer
      hommer 24 July 2013 22: 44 New
      Quote: Selevc
      A multi-vector policy was invented by the enemies of Russia to do more harm to it

      Quote: Selevc
      And with China and with India of course you need to be friends and trade

      How do you simultaneously manage to think in different directions, I admire.
      So what to do? Tell the Russian Foreign Ministry. laughing
      1. Selevc
        Selevc 24 July 2013 23: 03 New
        And what is there to prompt you in your Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and so some smarts are sitting - they’ve been uniting with Belarus for 15 years — and as they say, things are still there !!! This is a long tradition - many foreign policy decisions too often Russia are simply turning into chatter and formality !!! But you are taking leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of the planet - it’s just not clear where !!!
    2. drom.m
      drom.m 26 July 2013 01: 10 New
      I absolutely agree with the latest tirade! But, in my opinion, we are losing the global information war !!!!
      1. alone
        alone 29 July 2013 22: 24 New
        The problem of Russian politics, I personally think, is that too many different unions and organizations have been created - CIS, SCO, Brix, TS, CSTO, Eurasian Union, etc. I believe, that ,
        it’s just hindering development
  16. krez-74
    krez-74 24 July 2013 20: 13 New
    Russia is now losing nothing and nobody! It pursues a balanced and pragmatic policy that has been lacking for thirty years!
    1. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr 25 July 2013 02: 18 New
      Everything is correct. Namely balanced. Only by whom and on what is a rhetorical question.
  17. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 24 July 2013 20: 22 New
    Through its media, Russia often criticizes the Kyrgyz Republic and its leadership for a multi-vector policy. And now she needs to decide which allies they need. India-China. Kyrgyz Republic-Uzbekistan. And so on all over the globe.
      FREGATENKAPITAN 25 July 2013 10: 38 New
      You colleague do not confuse throwing in the hope of getting a big handout from the outside, with a multi-vector policy ............
  18. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 24 July 2013 20: 31 New
    Political triangles, like love triangles, have never been beneficial. They only brought discord ... suspicion and quarrels ... Russia really does not want to choose one thing ... but it will have to ... for strengthening India with aviation and submarines we are actually opposing the strategic interests of CHINA, PAKISTAN ... Strengthening China the latest innovations in the aviation industry - we go against JAPAN, INDIA, USA. None of the groups will want to concede to the other side ... and this can lead not only to the Cold War, but also to spark the sparks of a big fire. The United States does not see in India, but in China its main enemy, so they will do anything to tear India away from Russia's friendly embrace.
    1. Essenger
      Essenger 24 July 2013 21: 12 New
      The USA is launching an anti-Chinese bloc in the Asian region. India unfortunately is already part of this block. Experts are talking about the emergence of a four-sided anti-Chinese union of the United States, Japan, India and Australia. Vietnam and the Philippines may join them in the future. In addition to Pakistan and the DPRK, China has no allies. For Russia, I think it's best to sit back and concentrate.
      1. ratuld
        ratuld 25 July 2013 17: 25 New
        Do you really believe that?
        What the hell block if you look at the map - it’s clear that the one with the oil is banking.
        And the key bets will be not on Australia, but on Pakistan-Iran-Iraq-Russia.
        What will this block stand on?
        In fact, this is another distracting maneuver for irritation and insecurity.
        The goal is Africa and the Middle East.
        There are basic pieces and chips.
        1. drom.m
          drom.m 26 July 2013 01: 28 New
          Well, and Russia, slowly will lower the Iron Curtain, maybe it's time?
        2. Essenger
          Essenger 27 July 2013 19: 56 New
          Quote: ratuld
          Do you really believe that?

          Quote: ratuld
          What will this block stand on?

          in my opinion I have already identified the anti-Chinese bloc. This means that they are united by sinophobia.
          Quote: ratuld
          The goal is Africa and the Middle East.

          But who needs Africa? except the French and the Chinese. I judge solely on the Obama administration’s new “Turn to Asia” strategy.

          Quote: ratuld
          And the key bets will be not on Australia, but on Pakistan-Iran-Iraq-Russia.

          Honestly, I did not understand your idea, who will put the Americans on them?
    2. drom.m
      drom.m 26 July 2013 01: 50 New
      And, to you, the alliance you called did not seem somewhat strange in content. The USA, always, was not indifferent to races of people. Is it possible to take such an alliance at face value? I apologize in advance!
      1. Essenger
        Essenger 27 July 2013 20: 02 New
        I don’t know to whom you turned? If to me, then I will try to answer.
        Quote: drom.m
        The USA, always, were not indifferent to races of people

        Does it matter who dies in the war? The Americans will use them as cannon fodder and it does not matter to them who will die in the war with the Chinese Indians, Asians or Africans.

        I would like to advise you in the future to quote the opponent, to whom the comment is addressed then it will be more clear. Sincerely.
  19. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 24 July 2013 20: 45 New
    India, like China, is a country unpredictable in politics..There they have their own graters in the region at the expense of territories, etc., are arming themselves to the teeth .. We sell weapons and it is beneficial to us and not only economically .. Just in case of which we know the weak places of our weapons like no one else ..
    1. drom.m
      drom.m 26 July 2013 02: 01 New
      that is, we, press the button, our weapon will refuse, then, press the button the Americans, they will come out for a walk too, well, walk the rovan ... Cool !!!!
  20. poquello
    poquello 24 July 2013 21: 01 New
    Article + for information, although this problem is small. Two factors play: The opinion of producers that regular customers "do it all right" and American noodles have not fallen from Indian ears yet.
    1. drom.m
      drom.m 26 July 2013 01: 33 New
      I repeat, the loss of our journalism, or rather, the information war.
  21. Nayhas
    Nayhas 24 July 2013 21: 12 New
    It should be recognized that Russia is currently in a stalemate. After China finally tore Pakistan out of the friendly embrace of the United States, the latter had no choice but to get closer to India. As it turned out, she was just waiting for this. India is still cooperating with Russia in the field of armaments, but this is sunset, licensed production of the Su-30, participation in the FGFA project, Bramos, Vikramatityka ... By the way, the prospect for FGFA is rather vague, the Indians are extremely dissatisfied with the pace and technical level of the project; that a lot of money has already been spent. Russia now simply cannot be an ally of India, because he is openly positioning himself anti-American, even more than communist China, while India is opposed, for example, in the Syrian issue, it is completely on the side of the USA and the Arab League. Also in India, they perfectly understand that China’s influence on Russia is huge and it will not be able to support India in the confrontation with China. Russia, perforce, will have to completely go to the PRC camp, because the presence of a huge common border completely eliminates neutrality. But the role of Russia in the Chinese space is rather primitive, raw materials, raw materials, raw materials ...
  22. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 24 July 2013 21: 42 New
    <<< one of the main problems is that Russia today actually has no reliable, militarily and economically strong allies. >>>
    There was the Warsaw Pact, the Eastern European allies of the USSR under this treaty. Just a few years was enough for all these “allies” to become ardent opponents of Russia after the collapse of the USSR! And what did Humpbacked Judah do with his ally, the GDR, with the pro-Soviet Najibullah in Afghanistan, from ......? So the law of the jungle has long ruled in the world for a long time, every man for himself and hardly anyone today will seriously "fit" into Russia, even despite some agreements, unless the country is bound by blood, brotherly ties or is it in her interest. So all hope only for oneself, for our Army, Aviation and Navy - the faithful allies of Russia and it is not necessary to hope for anything else. And, of course, such foreign policy blunders as military cooperation with Pakistan are in full view of India, the delivery of the SU-35 to China, aware of its claims to India and its ever-increasing militant rhetoric, clearly do not contribute to an increase in the number of Russian supporters in the world!
  23. VPO
    VPO 24 July 2013 22: 06 New
    Recently I spoke with the Japanese. He came to share our experience. They love vodka. But they get drunk extremely quickly. One hundred grams and ready. For me, his "real worldview in Russian" was a revelation. His phrase: YOU ARE THE FIRST FLIGHTS ON SPACE !!! HOW YOU CAN LIVE!
    He is an average Japanese about Gagarin knows more than I am Russian! I felt ashamed. It is difficult for me to express the bitterness in printed letters on the monitor about a lot of things that have been lost lately. I hope that someday our mentality will undergo changes. When the people begin to change in their broad mass, then the leadership will change. Then relations with the Allies will change.
    1. hommer
      hommer 24 July 2013 22: 50 New
      I agree with you.
      But if you repeat, like a mantra, that Russia has only two allies, it will be so.
  24. egor 1712
    egor 1712 24 July 2013 22: 19 New
    I do not know why the author concluded about the problems between the two countries. A visit to US Secretary of State John Carrie is not talking about anything. The Indian leadership is well aware of the area in which they now live. Afghanistan, Pakistan, the Persian Gulf. More than serious challenges. Only a blind man does not see how Americans use their alleged partners. Before the invasion of Afghanistan, how many promises were made to the leadership of Pakistan in help and support. And what happened. The country was left to be torn to pieces by Wahhabis and Al Qaeda. If India agrees to dance to the tune of the United States, then I am sorry this state and its people.
  25. family
    family tree 24 July 2013 22: 30 New
    Russia will not seek a quarrel with China, bordering after all.
    The states will pump India, to counterbalance China, they will strengthen China, nafig did not give up. We, by the way, too.
  26. uhu189
    uhu189 24 July 2013 23: 05 New
    Russia just needs to be a strong and self-confident country, and not impose itself on alliances - and then India, China and smaller countries will start reaching for us (and not we, as the author calls for us), like this was with the Soviet Union. Everyone wants to be friends with strong and confident ones, but few people need weak allies. The keys to our future, from our security, are only in our hands, and not in Beijing or Delhi or anywhere else. Our words will be supported by economic, industrial, military and intellectual power - and the CIS will be reanimated, and the BRICS will become by no means an empty sound, and very many things will change. I am glad that we all the same seem to have embarked on this path - now we need not to stop and turn off ...
    1. drom.m
      drom.m 26 July 2013 02: 07 New
      But what about the fact that Russia is a female? In a Woman, there must be a riddle, huh?
  27. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 25 July 2013 00: 25 New
    Quote: Essenger
    For Russia, I think it's best to sit back and concentrate.

    So you can’t sit out, the PRC is a strategic partner of Russia, and India "is not a little friends" with China. And since the amers "came" to India, we need to gain a foothold in China. Although the Chinese should not be completely trusted. hi
  28. rudolff
    rudolff 25 July 2013 02: 21 New
    India, like Russia, is somewhat lost in the modern world. And there are no such leaders as before. Remember Mahatma Gandhi, Jawaharlal Nehru, Indira Gandhi, Rajiva Gandhi. At that time, even schoolchildren knew these names, and India itself was always well known. And the attitude towards her was always special. And now try to recall the name of the Indian prime minister or president, few will call. There are now truly national leaders and politicians of a world level there. Perhaps Sonya Gandhi could, but did not want because of her origin. She's Italian. And India’s foreign policy is as slurred as its political elite. By the way, in Pakistan the situation is somewhat similar. After the assassination of Benazir Bhutto, a similar scale and charisma were not found in politics. the state is, but there is no person!
    1. drom.m
      drom.m 26 July 2013 02: 17 New
      In China, India, Russia, the names you have named have long been encyclopedic. Look at the statistics of education listed by YOU countries, you will most likely find an error in the analysis.
  29. AleksUkr
    AleksUkr 25 July 2013 02: 24 New
    How would we not be in the place of this dog. After all, but "friendly" relations.
  30. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 25 July 2013 05: 02 New
    Russia's policy today is incomprehensible and chaotic. Russian politicians want to please both yours and ours. In this case, you are not a leader by definition, and if you are not a leader, then they do not respect you and do not equal you. Only a clear and understandable policy, with clearly defined guidelines, can be attractive and attractive. What today can our country offer to the same India? These are just some in our society who believe that Russia has an impressive weight at the political level in the world. In fact, everything is much worse. You should not even talk about the economic potential. Let us recall what the USSR began to respect, why they began to reckon with it? Yes, because it was the USSR that showed how fast it can develop the economy, industry, it showed the world the strength and cohesion of nations. Just all that is missing in modern Russia.
  31. ratuld
    ratuld 25 July 2013 06: 41 New
    I do not understand the hype of the fasting. Nothing but terribly illiterate, to say the worst of the population in this very India, there is no nicherta.
    It is not clear what the states are trying to overcome the Hare Krishnas there.
    For 50 years they cannot advance 10 km to Jammu and Kashmir. And not even to solve a simple tactical army operation.
    Talking about India's GDP - programming and high technology - is just real bullshit.
    Everyone is bluffing. ALL !!!!
    Well, who really in the Middle East will take the Indians seriously ???
    The Chinese probably laugh out loud.
    The only thing that could be bad is that the Hare Krishnas will quarrel with the Chinese and will spoil them.
    That’s the whole “tricky” scenario.
      FREGATENKAPITAN 25 July 2013 10: 47 New
      ........ Oh ......... forgive you in every line just illiteracy can be traced ......... Where is India, and where is the Middle East? Completely different TVDs, ....... India already has the highest technology in various fields (the world's best Bramos rocket (joint with the Russian Federation) ........ Indian satellites, etc. etc. p ........... About Kashmir? Read the literature on the Indo-Pakistan conflict ....... see how Indians know how to fight......, "............... On the eastern front, Indian forces, together with the Mukti Bahini divisions, quickly went around the enemy’s main defensive units. The decisive factor here was high mobility in difficult The PT-76 amphibious tanks and Mi-4 transport helicopters proved to be very good. By the end of the second week of the war the Indian army approached Dhaka. Seeing no point in further resistance, on December 16, the commander of the Pakistani forces in Bangladesh, General Niyazi signed an act of surrender "On December 17, India announced a ceasefire. The war ended at that .....".... can and still continue
      1. ratuld
        ratuld 25 July 2013 12: 24 New
        Dear !!! I don’t even want to strain my wretched head. It’s enough for its own balls - to look at the wild, overpopulated, dirty and lazy completely lazy medieval marasmus and all kinds of crooks thieves and anxious onanists living in such savagery and begging that if the air temperature drops there at least to + 10 - it will die out completely.
        It is surprising that the Indians did not keep us friends for some time — but Roerich — Blavatsky and the scoundrel of Gandhi, like some kind of enlightened and almost saints, firmly stuck in Russian turtles.
        demagogy and fraud in everything and everywhere. In the best case - BARE Laziness !!!!
  32. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 25 July 2013 07: 21 New
    Is India the Third World Economy?
    Why not Russia?
    1. Arberes
      Arberes 25 July 2013 10: 51 New
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      Why not Russia?

      Well, it’s you, dear Ivan Tarasov Ask the president of our MOTHERLAND. drinks
    2. Essenger
      Essenger 25 July 2013 11: 28 New
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      Is India the Third World Economy?

      No, the third Japan, the fourth Germany and then India. If I'm not mistaken.
    3. alone
      alone 29 July 2013 22: 26 New
      who said such nonsense? What is the third economy. Maybe the 30th)))
  33. black
    black 25 July 2013 09: 09 New
    The article was inspired by the polemic polemic. Russia did not and did not have friends on the side — only the army and navy. Well, the Indians are conducting an independent foreign policy and Shiva is with them. Armed conflict will begin - we will earn. And the fact that the tenders lost ... Maybe they forgot the main rule of half-wild capitalism - not leasing and marketing decides the fate of the tender, but exclusively rolling. Mozh our clamped, and amers dumped to whom it is necessary. In Afghanistan, they are flying MI-17, not Sikorsky.
    1. ratuld
      ratuld 25 July 2013 09: 15 New
      You forgot about Pakistan to remind the brahmanas.
      And about China.
      And about the fact that if you don’t bring Shiva, the war of India will begin, never having fought with anyone, the half-wild population will simply transfer itself or cows or they will.
      Bullshit !!!
      Hindus and geopolitics !!!
      Take a ride and see !!!
  34. vlaval
    vlaval 25 July 2013 11: 45 New
    Really Take a Trip and take a look !!!