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Putin is changing the brains of the West

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Putin is changing the brains of the WestThe West, which has become stagnant in its dogmas, does not keep pace with the rapidly changing world. And he does not have time not only somewhere in the foreign policy arena, but also within his own countries. No wonder, the world has become global and challenges have become global, and politicians have remained homegrown. Those who considered American politicians to be such “political docks” will probably soon change their mind.


Russians living in the United States sometimes cling to their heads at the stupidity of American politicians. We were frankly impressed by the former governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin. During the debate on the question of how you will conduct foreign policy, because you do not have international experience, the former governor of Alaska Bravo replied that she has international experience with the Russians. The fact is that Alaska and Russia are separated by a narrow strip of the Bering Strait. Russian fishermen often sit on the ice there, and they come very close to the American border, so Mrs. Palin saw it all and shouted to them: Come back russians, come back! (Russians come back! Come back!) The international experience of Sarah Palin is simply unique, but it doesn’t smell like brains. Did those Russians hear her? Let's hope not.

In order to understand the essence of things, it should be recalled that the Bering Strait with the smallest width of 85 kilometers hardly makes it possible to shout to the Russians from the American side. But the understanding of Mrs. Palin can not take this into account, due to natural inclinations. And this is a politician who was methyl as vice president, and this vice president was supposed to be the well-known John McCain. So the Russian Obama sin to complain! By the way, the current "vicic" Joe Biden, also frankly causes laughter. These people are trying to defeat Putin and are openly offended when they fail to do it.

Last week it became known that the British Home Secretary Theresa May (in the photo) refused to write to the royal coroner in a public inquiry into the Litvinenko murder case, citing this “with an appropriate government decision and the impact of factors in international relations.” But more recently, the situation was to the "disgusting reverse." Russia openly offered to change the constitution. One can only guess what kind of idiot David Miliband, the former Minister of Foreign Affairs, feels like today, who actually proposed changing the constitution of Russia. I wonder if he had the sense to do it now? In any case, in the 2009 year, the direct question whether he gave advice to Putin about a change of constitution, Miliband went away from the answer, which means he felt himself an idiot. Let the reader respond to himself, it would have happened in Miliband’s head, if Putin hadn’t put a vivid slap to the Minister of Her Royal Majesty in 2007, figuratively speaking. At the same time, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the RV Sergey Lavrov seized the second prose of the same time.

That's when the first shift occurred. There was also a confrontation in Kosovo, which cost the West extremely dearly, perhaps never in their lives could the West get anything so dear. Putin simply missed the West through a small grater and incinerated Western ambition. Since then, no one else has the idea that you can ignore the opinion of the Russians. There was another episode when, at the cost of tremendous losses, Putin managed to convince the terrorists that it was no use to seize hostages in Russia. This is about taking hostages during the Nord-Ost musical in 2002. And yet the terrorists tried again, then there was a seizure of the school in Beslan in 2004, and again they had to prove the futility of such types of pressure on Russia. For the Beslan terrorist attack visible hands of Western intelligence services. Then Russia paid a terrible price, but there were no more hostage-takings in Russia. The dead children are terribly pitiful and one can only imagine the immense grief of their parents, but maybe thousands of other lives were saved by the very firmness shown by the Russian president. It should be recalled that up to this point the hostage-taking was more often than the seasons. Now foreign intelligence agencies have retreated. The bloody senaries do not lead to anything, and Putin, too, is driven into their heads.

If it seems to someone that the author idolizes Putin, then I would like to note that this is not so. There is a lot of bad things in Russia, perhaps more than in some wealthy countries, but there are more good things in Russia than in other countries. Remember what Russia was 15 years ago, the empty treasury and the foul crowd of some completely nasty people who did not shun anything, remember the murder of Vlad Listyev, and thousands of other murders. Millions and billions of theft of all kinds of "Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky and Goose". This is at a time when retirees fed on garbage in the garbage. The horror comes along with the memories. Today, all this is not. The country has money, wages and pensions are rising. Russians are increasingly respected in the world.

Recently, in a New York restaurant, a Greek waiter, by chance, saw a silver cross on a silver chain and asked what branch of Christianity this cross was. Having learned that the owner of the cross belongs to Russian Orthodoxy, but he lived in one of the republics, the Greek declared that you are not Russian and say to everyone that you are Russian! It is very cool! Your president is like armor, about his military superiority of any country will break like a watermelon against a wall. I am happy that the Russians have the same faith with the Greeks.

It was difficult for me to understand how the world has changed over the past few years. Even those who always and out of duty hated Putin, interfering with mud, can no longer continue to lie and are increasingly recognized as superior to Putin. We wrote about this in an article Ecuador was blown away - now everything depends on Putin. Then Scottsman correspondent Gerald Warner directly stated the growing pro-Putin sentiment in the world. Where did this Russian leader’s image come from? Probably need to say a few words.

Looking recently at the video footage of the flights of the Russian T-50, the author of this article drew attention to the fact that the wings of the new aircraft no longer resemble the wings of a bird, they are more likely to resemble seal flippers or walrus in their different shapes. The difference here is that ordinary wings are made so as to “rake up” the air beneath themselves creating a lift force. The air is quite discharged substance and it can be floated in it only conditionally. Water is another matter; swimming there is real and pinnipeds use it to the full. As you know, the density of water is higher than the density of air 800 times, and all the difference between flight and navigation is based on this. Birds are raking the air under them, and the seals are repelled by the water as something more dense. Here it comes to mind that if Western politicians need to constantly flap their wings in order to fly, otherwise the fall is inevitable, then Putin simply floats starting from events as something that allows him to do so and not fail. Sorry for some imagery, but Putin feels in politics like a fish in water. He knows exactly what kind of fin you need to move to set a new degree of movement. The difference between “flapping wings” and “rowing flippers” consists in multiplicity. To fly you need to flap your wings often, in order to swim you just need to push off with flippers. That is, the actions here need stronger, but rare. That's exactly what we see in Putin.

The West constantly denounces Russia and Putin, but it is worth Putin once to make a speech in Munich, and everything that Western journalists and foreign leaders have said so far turns to dust. Of course, after each Putin’s speech, journalists have enough work for many months, articles and analytical forecasts are being written. Nobody is waiting for Obama's speeches, everyone knows that there will again be one slippery soap and, accordingly, soap bubbles, which are not as beautiful as words, but they are a little confused.

Putin always says business. The country is really built. It seems to those who live in Russia that it may or may not be, that everything can happen very slowly, but you, believe me, believe a person who sees it all from the outside. When you get to a city where you haven’t been just a year, you see how something new appears here, or something old has been repaired. And even though this repair and construction has no end in sight, it’s clear that work is underway. For example, cities in the United States look very different. Everyone already knows that the US authorities are going to bankrupt Detroit. There you can only sympathize with the white population.

Today in Detroit 83% black, what will be there with white can be represented only in a nightmare. Chicago did not go far, skirmishes are already taking place during the day. On another day, the dead can happen even before 10 people per day. And these people, these media talk about the ineffectiveness of Putin? The US authorities do not want to save Detroit, not because they do not feel sorry for him, but because there are dozens of major US cities and almost all small towns on the brink of financial disaster. To help Detroit, then it will have to help the rest of the cities, and this is already a clear financial catastrophe in the country. Today, the US continues to issue about 85 billions of unsecured money and immediately repurchases its financial obligations for 45 billions. That is, every month, up to 40 billions are thrown onto the market with the US securities and stuff the whole world. All this cannot go on forever.

In Russia, however they are, they cannot imagine such tricks. The main challenges of Russia today within the country. Under external pressure around the perimeter and under vacuum inside Russia, a breakthrough can be expected at any moment. If Putin manages to cope with this vacuum, it will make his country invincible, and personally his greatest political figure of all time. Those who are quoted today, for example, Churchill, Eisenhower, Kennedy will remain political dwarfs, despite their significant deeds in stories. The difference between them and Putin is that they have worked in the name of their countries, Putin is changing the world perception of the world, Putin is really changing the brains of the West through the citizens of these countries, who are already openly saying, we need a Putin like this.
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  1. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 24 July 2013 06: 39 New
    -72
    Glory to Putin !!!! cheers to Putin, we all pray for Putin !! Putin is the best in the world !! for Putin as for a stone wall !!! Well, who praises Putin even better? join in
    1. domokl
      domokl 24 July 2013 07: 01 New
      +7
      Quote: vladsolo56
      who praises Putin even better? join in

      laughing I prepared a big fly in the ointment, but I don’t know where to pour it lol
      1. starshina78
        starshina78 24 July 2013 09: 17 New
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        I'll help you pour a fly in the ointment! I gave the article a minus. Not because of love or dislike for Putin, but because of the sugaryness of the article. It painfully resembles the "ode praising the sovereign" of Derzhavin's time. Yes, Putin has a lot of merit, no one takes it away from him, but there is also a lot of things that arouse rejection of the Russian people. I do not take his international political activities. They listen to him in the West, they are afraid - that's great. When the leader of the state is respected, but at the same time they vilify Russia, how should this be taken? How to perceive the fact that any Russian citizen can be arrested by the American special services on the territory of another state, taken to the United States and tried there? How to perceive the fact that in Russia it is not the law but the "telephone law" that operates in court? How to perceive the fact that two-thirds of the country's population do not live, but survive, and the remaining third is fattening? The list is endless. And after all, everything is closed on Putin - the President of Russia, the guarantor of the Constitution. It is written in the Constitution and is a dogma - free secondary education, medical care for the population, and many more rights of the people, but only they are now being violated everywhere, and not by someone, but by the Government and the Duma. How else to understand the laws adopted by the Duma, and those developed by the Government, allegedly discussed by the people on the Internet, "Laws on Education" and "Law on Public Health Care", which practically introduce paid education and paid medical care for the population? They are signed by the President, the guarantor of the Constitution! I know that they will "minus" me, and maybe even delete the comment, but I expressed my opinion! Moderator! You can put my comment in the "basement"!
        1. Matroskin
          Matroskin 24 July 2013 09: 51 New
          +3
          And this is only part. With a comment on all 100. good
        2. maxvik
          maxvik 24 July 2013 11: 28 New
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          I just can’t understand - did all these problems appear under Putin?
          What does it mean that everything closes on Putin. If the overwhelming majority of the population is ready to take and give bribes, if the lies are small and large, if a third of the population is not ready to share with the others, then what should Putin do? Wave a magic wand and make us all wonderful PEOPLE?
          It turns out that it is easier to create an international image of Russia, because a narrow circle of people is involved in this and Putin can fully use his personal qualities and available resources.
          1. little man
            little man 24 July 2013 20: 39 New
            0
            But let's go from the opposite - do not justify the king and blame the stupid people and thieves of the boyars. Nevertheless, nominate worthy presidents!
            1. Tverichanka
              Tverichanka 24 July 2013 21: 42 New
              +4
              Quote: man
              Nevertheless, nominate worthy presidents!

              Why didn’t they list the worthy ones?
              1. Botanologist
                Botanologist 24 July 2013 22: 41 New
                +1
                Quote: Tverichanka
                Why didn’t they list the worthy ones?


                + to you. On our site, many people prefer to reason dialectically on the scale of world evil, and the specifics somehow cannot give. Not under the force.
              2. little man
                little man 25 July 2013 01: 44 New
                -2
                Oh, Ning, a half-country list. After all, whoever turns up will be killed - this is a conversation.
        3. silver_roman
          silver_roman 24 July 2013 13: 22 New
          23
          all this is so. much is in decline. In the structure of power there are many completely incomprehensible personalities who pursue only personal interests. All sorts of laws on health care, education, etc., follow from here.
          But we should remember where all these personalities came from. During perestroika, crowds of people defending the interests of the West were introduced into the governments of the CIS countries. For 15 years, they very strongly (like corrosion) have eaten into all levels of power. And to solve our internal problems, we need to gradually display them. You can’t take all of them at stake. Of course, this option would be great, but there are a couple of points:
          1) in this case, a whole volley of "diarrhea" of the media, cries of despotism, monarchy, regime, lack of democracy, etc. will pour out on us. All this will disrupt our ties in foreign policy. In short, this will be the reason that is expected of us.
          Putin understands this and acts on the counter. as soon as a loophole appears, he hits it. This can be seen in the laws on NPOs, on offshore attacks, etc.
          2) all these "dumb" personalities like Navalny and similar wickedness have a certain amount of support, which can cause serious opposition among the people. All the same, propaganda works with Hurray. and we don't need new revolutions. The balance between ethnic groups in the Russian Federation is too fragile now. it is worth pouring in a couple of million greens and thousands of people will flow into the streets, shouting slogans of freedom and independence for their "occupied" republics. This factor should also be taken into account.

          I apologize for such a long monologue (many will not even have enough patience to read it). There are a lot of problems in the country that are solved not with a "sledgehammer", but with a "scalpel". Slowly, consistently and in cold blood, traitors must be removed from power. In my opinion, Putin is a master at this.
          1. a52333
            a52333 24 July 2013 15: 04 New
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            Slowly, consistently and calmly, you need to remove traitors from power 5 points. Well said. +++.
            For some reason, it seems to everyone that improving something nationwide, UNDER DENSE OPPOSITION, is like two fingers on asphalt. It is very difficult.
          2. Cynic
            Cynic 24 July 2013 17: 14 New
            +6
            Quote: silver_roman
            For 15 years, they very strongly (like corrosion) have eaten into all levels of power.

            Oncology in its purest form, while chemotherapy is used.
            I’m only afraid that they will reach the inoperable stage.
            1. silver_roman
              silver_roman 24 July 2013 17: 46 New
              0
              the main thing is that metastases do not go to the lymph nodes drinks
              this is so, on the medical topic)))
          3. aleks6919
            aleks6919 24 July 2013 18: 51 New
            +1
            and with the help of a "scalpel". Is that still 20 years? Come to your senses now, dissatisfaction with a humiliated existence is turning into a critical one !!! If you do not feel this, talk to people, if you live in Russia at all!
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 24 July 2013 19: 24 New
              +4
              Quote: aleks6919
              Come to your senses, now discontent on a degraded existence is turning into critical!

              More specifically where?
            2. Tverichanka
              Tverichanka 24 July 2013 21: 45 New
              +2
              Quote: aleks6919
              negotiate with people

              Well I am "people"! Talk to me ........
            3. silver_roman
              silver_roman 24 July 2013 22: 27 New
              +2
              the fact of the matter is that if necessary, then 20 years.
              you know how they say: in Germany, for example, such roads are cool, everything is so cool. so Germany is smaller in area than our average region. what they should do those ways. but making roads in Russia is not just one EU GDP. and in everything. time and patience are needed. and most importantly - SUPPORT OF THE PEOPLE.
              Incidentally, in this way, the article was also. I do not remember the name. all this ... on account
              dissatisfaction with humiliated existence becomes critical
              comes to us from the media. and the media, as you know, while (!) is still controlled by liberals. from there comes statistics about all these horrors. Good things are happening, but this is not customary to talk about so often.
              Do you think that in prosperity and everyone lives like a millionaire ??? Do you think there are no homeless, poor and humiliated ??? if so, then I will advise you to consider at least not one point of view, but several. if you draw info from TV, then really everything will come to the scenario you described.
              understand, if such a fundamental science as history is distorted, where the brightest facts of the past century are simply twisted, kept quiet, and some are generally written anew ... what can we say about statistics cited somehow by an NGO, for example, funded through 100500 accounts, for example. ..in general, I think you need to be a little more multifaceted!

              if you live in Russia at all

              I live in Kiev, but I am a citizen of the Russian Federation and have lived there half my life. For me there are no borders between our states. There are only a bunch of reptiles that so far prevent people of one nation from understanding or stopping them.
        4. Apologet.Ru
          Apologet.Ru 24 July 2013 13: 25 New
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          hi
          Quote starshina78
          How to perceive that two thirds of the country's population do not live, but survive, and the remaining third live?

          Regarding this phrase of yours, colleague, I will answer my yesterday, on a similar topic -
          It's summer now, go to the airport, railway station and see how many and where "poor" people go to rest / survive.
          Yes, and statistics of travel agencies you can ask.
          Yes, and I myself recently vacationed in Turkey, so I will tell you a secret, Antalya Airport made an indelible impression on me with the amount of traveling people.
          So guess citizens, what nationality was there the most?

          And further...
          Culturally criticized is always easier than easy. Well, imagine that you are the President, write down your program of action specifically for each item of your requirements, with the obligatory indication of the sources of funding ...
          1. Garrin
            Garrin 24 July 2013 13: 31 New
            +4
            Quote: Apologet.Ru
            So guess citizens, what nationality was there the most?

            So this is because now rest in Turkey is now much cheaper than in Sochi or in the Crimea. And what's so good about that?
            1. Apologet.Ru
              Apologet.Ru 24 July 2013 13: 39 New
              +1
              hi
              So about the same thing!
              That Turkey is now the place where poor Russians survive in 4-5 * hotels with ol inclusive services ...
              1. Tverichanka
                Tverichanka 24 July 2013 21: 58 New
                +3
                Quote: Apologet.Ru
                to and about the same!

                Vaughn Kostikov in the AIF every week pours tears over our poor people, who eat almost potato peelings. (Who is not in the subject, Kostikov, former Yeltsin’s press secretary). And I sob with him, poor people! Turkey or Egypt, or even farther to where ..... Indeed, brought to the handle!
            2. alex13-61
              alex13-61 24 July 2013 14: 08 New
              +9
              Quote: Garrin
              Holidays in Turkey are now much cheaper than in Sochi or the Crimea

              Nevertheless, the bulk of tourists in Crimea are Russians ... And their solvency is orders of magnitude higher than that of the "title" ... which is very annoying for the "Svidomo".
              And at least 60-70% of Ukrainians would like to change their president to Russian.
              1. Garrin
                Garrin 24 July 2013 18: 09 New
                +3
                Quote: alex13-61
                Nevertheless, the bulk of tourists in Crimea are Russians ... And their solvency is orders of magnitude higher than that of the "title" ... which is very annoying for the "Svidomo".

                But I don’t go there out of principle, although finances still allow. It’s unpleasant for me that for the honestly earned money, they offer me unobtrusive service, rudeness and dirt. However, this also applies to Sochi.
                Now I prefer a good sanatorium in the suburbs in the fall, although it also turns out to be more expensive than Turkey and the service is not comme il faut.
            3. a52333
              a52333 24 July 2013 15: 08 New
              +4
              In Turkey, the swimming season is 3 months longer, hence the more reasonable price.
              In Egypt, the season, in principle, is all year round, of course, that they work at a small extra charge.
              This is ours for two or three months to earn a year of life.
          2. kris
            kris 24 July 2013 13: 34 New
            +1
            Quote: Apologet.Ru
            It's summer now, go to the airport, railway station and see how many and where "poor" people go to rest / survive.

            Over the past seven years, the share of citizens traveling on tourist trips abroad has grown by only 2 percent - from 3 in 2005-2008 to 5 this summer. 70 percent of the inhabitants of Russia have never been abroad. Only 17 percent of the country's population have a valid passport
            1. Apologet.Ru
              Apologet.Ru 24 July 2013 14: 05 New
              +6
              hi
              I would like to believe the results of a survey conducted by the analytical center of Yuri Levada (Levada Center) on 16-19 on March 2012. But then what, in June of 2013, I should not believe my eyes?
              By the way, I don't know in what circles you communicate, but in the circle of my acquaintances, ordinary people and far from oligarchs, of course, there are problems, but no one "tears his hair" and does not "sprinkle ashes on his head", but builds himself a decent life with my own hands and for some reason categorically refuses to attribute myself to those -
              two thirds of the country's population do not live, but survive

              This is that two-thirds of the country's population are disabled, without arms, legs or brains, they live hungry, have no housing and work, no education, walk in rags, daughters and wives stand "on the panel", walk only on foot, etc. etc. Do not be as poor as that "old Jew" and do not claim to yourself the right to speak for those
              two thirds of the country's population
              That
              do not live, but survive

              Put your strength, change the circle of communication and see other statistics. Good luck! laughing
              1. kris
                kris 24 July 2013 14: 26 New
                +1
                Quote: Apologet.Ru
                Put your strength, change the circle of communication and see other statistics. Good luck!

                off-topic question: How did you get your own housing?
                1. Apologet.Ru
                  Apologet.Ru 24 July 2013 14: 50 New
                  +3
                  hi
                  Elementary, earned money and bought it.
                  And I generally think that the rich is not the one who has a lot of money.
                  Who has a lot of money is a collector.
                  And the rich is the one that is enough ...
              2. Powder donut
                Powder donut 24 July 2013 17: 56 New
                0
                You have amused me !!! =)))
                I immediately recall the words attributed to Marie Antoinette: "If they have no bread, let them eat cakes."
                1. Apologet.Ru
                  Apologet.Ru 24 July 2013 21: 39 New
                  0
                  hi
                  I’m very glad, colleague, that you are such a funny person and it’s easy to make you laugh. You probably laugh all the time, No? Yes, if you, a colleague, wanted to show your erudition, then you showed it. But, to the context to which I expressed my idea, it, unfortunately, does not apply at all ...
          3. Tverichanka
            Tverichanka 24 July 2013 21: 53 New
            +3
            Quote: Apologet.Ru
            write down your program of action

            In addition to funding sources, we will also add the provision of PROFESSIONAL personnel, the absolute honesty of the appointees, the methods of countering the West ....... oh, I can't list everything ..... You have the answers to these questions. Answers are intelligible, well-grounded, well-reasoned. ... Maybe you heard when- "The economy is not worth shaking." Our people are wise, oh wise !!!!!!!
        5. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 24 July 2013 14: 14 New
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          Quote: starshina78
          ! I know that they will "minus" me, and maybe even delete the comment, but I expressed my opinion! Moderator! You can put my comment in the "basement"!

          Until this moment, everything was fine, you probably presented yourself as a fighter for justice in the days of "Standing"?, Or even more so, in the times of "great and terrible". There is no need to flirt and tear a shirt on your chest, not really having lived on the site to Yenirala, you have not familiarized yourself with its rules; "in the basement", here only for swearing and personal insults, so it is difficult to get into dissidents on the site, but still good luck in this difficult matter. tongue
        6. Demetrius29
          Demetrius29 24 July 2013 15: 10 New
          +2
          Do you think Putin alone can fix everything? Do you think the flows of emigrants from the former USSR who rushed to Russia at the request of the government are also considered guilty? Then, can you outline a plan on how to make a Russian peasant not drink vodka and start working like a German to persuade families to give birth to five or more children, as in imperial times? Or maybe you yourself have never ignored the law, whether it was a left inspection, an unpaid bill on time, or a cigarette butt thrown by a ballot box or a pirated movie downloaded from a Russian tracker, or during the reforms of Peter the Great, something similar happened. The discontent of the mob and the nobility, the unwillingness to change the way of life, shorter to get off the beaten track, but the reforms were sorely needed. Yes, in the end, maybe he would like to do everything differently, or faster, but he is only the president, not the king of other powers. In general, it is easier to answer this way. Let someone who is sinless throw a stone at him.
        7. gregor6549
          gregor6549 24 July 2013 15: 10 New
          -1
          How is a personality cult created? Yes, such articles are being created. That is why the oligarchs and security officials nominated Putin at the time as the President of Russia because there were no special brains and high principles on this completely gray person, and therefore he did not pose any threat to the oligarchs or the security officials who nominated him. (Some of them, of course, have flown with these estimates, it happens)
          And now it turns out that this person, having closed all state control to himself, like Stalin once, but not at all knowing what to do with this control, is able to set the brains of the West, and everything at once.
          But if Putin is so smart, why is his people still so poor? Indeed, after Gorbachev and Yeltsin, there was more than enough time and resources to put the country on its feet, and not on its knees, and not in front of the West, but in front of itself. Indeed, allocating billions of oil and gas dollars to the Armed Forces does not require much intelligence, all the more so that half of them immediately disappear in an unknown direction, and those who were especially close to Putin and who were involved in their disappearance both remained, and remain untouchable, like Indian cows.
          But there was not enough money for teachers, pensioners and other "superfluous people". They only have enough for those who have enough of this frail money in their personal pocket. So who and what brains is Putin putting in place? West? So he lived and lives quite comfortably before Putin and under him. Of course, there are also some problems in the assay tent, but where they are not.
          1. Apologet.Ru
            Apologet.Ru 24 July 2013 15: 37 New
            +5
            if Putin is so smart why his people are still so poor

            In our country, for some reason, many believe that it is enough to come to the "just king", as he will appoint a "good master" who will give a wise command and control and life immediately by itself, well, even if not by itself, but "according to a pike command, in my opinion desire "how will it work out ...
            No, this is let everyone who considers himself poor, individually ask himself a question - if I am so smart, then why so poor? - and answer it. Just let him check before that how his personal, self-written daily, minute by minute prescribed plan is implemented, how to get out of that situation that does not bring him joy.
            By the way, do those who are minus have such a personal plan?
            1. gregor6549
              gregor6549 24 July 2013 15: 53 New
              +1
              I tried to imagine a pensioner, teacher, scientist, state doctor. hospitals, working state. factory, etc. people diligently writing plans for how to become rich. They may write plans and be able to, but on the plans everything will end. And those who are not state. for an employee or a pensioner, plans can only be realized if they are based on transparent rules of the game that do not change every single day, the same for all citizens, including for "controllers". But this is exactly what the "controllers" do not need.
              1. Apologet.Ru
                Apologet.Ru 24 July 2013 16: 19 New
                +1
                hi
                They may write plans and be able to, but everything will end on the plans.


                And for some reason, it seems to me that they will not be able to. Do you, for example, have such a plan?

                And if they can, you are sure that they will scrupulously fulfill it or find excuse in the form of a bad king, bad laws, lack of time, good or bad weather, etc. etc. Not?
              2. Demetrius29
                Demetrius29 24 July 2013 16: 35 New
                +7
                Oh, stop it. Already now, everyone can make money on a piece of bread with sausage and thayete in the ass. Smart? Open an IP, resell, trade, produce, drank. Dumb? take a loan, buy all this and give part of your salary, drive a car, work in general, but have what you want. And groans on the topic, poor interest in banks, insecurity in the employer, (change jobs), the police are rude, (learn the laws), firefighters not enough for a bribe, (we break the laws), and in general it’s all unrealistic, because Petya, a friend of Vasya, Masha’s sister, tried it, but he didn’t succeed and everything is to blame for the villain Putin, who is sitting upstairs and not making me rich? And in order to understand and predict these very changing rules, one must learn that, again, no one wants to.
                1. Apologet.Ru
                  Apologet.Ru 24 July 2013 16: 46 New
                  +2
                  hi
                  And I'm about the same, colleague, and I'm about the same ...
                2. Tverichanka
                  Tverichanka 24 July 2013 22: 26 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Demetrius29
                  , take a car

                  I will illustrate your post .... My neighbor, a young woman (son of 8 years old) divorced her husband, bought an old six and started to taxi. Two years later I changed the car to zero (which is called "in cellophane") repaired the house of an alcoholic father, where for debts, all communications were cut off, and continues to work. When it is necessary to leave early on request, he asks the neighbors to take the child for the night, so that he is not afraid and does not oversleep at school. Nobody has ever refused. So she lives. Clever. And she cries that someone didn’t give her something, there’s no time ... And then the men groan ...
          2. Tverichanka
            Tverichanka 24 July 2013 22: 12 New
            +3
            Quote: gregor6549
            th, pensioners and others "

            I have repeatedly written that I am a PENSIONER. Yeah, and my husband too. I worked all my life as a middle-level medic, and my Kipovian husband (for those who have nothing to steal on a submarine and you won’t get any kind of pay). I have a minimal pension. All the doctors are not very busy, because there are a lot of pennies .... We don’t eat cleanings. We don’t go to Turkey to relax. But not because there is not enough money, but we just DO NOT WANT ... And the housing is between by the way, they also bought ... That's it! ... Usually these posts are stubbornly minus. I’ll ask those who do it to REFUT my words. But it turns out that I’m lying. rather than stupid cons.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 24 July 2013 23: 42 New
              +1
              Quote: Tverichanka
              Therefore, I am waiting for content, and not stupidly cons.

              You could not buy housing for a minimum pension.
              Retirement, if it is minimal, you can’t even fully eat.
              Consequently, the husband's pension is much higher than average, there are additional sources of income and, probably, a subsidiary farm.

              Based on the above, your blessed existence on incomes close to the minimum possible is nothing more than a lie.
              1. Demetrius29
                Demetrius29 25 July 2013 01: 14 New
                +1
                Excuse me, but what does the user say that she bought the apartment for retirement? Isn't Chukchi a reader, is he a writer? Second, judging by my parents (so as not to go far), touching her mother directly, she manages to make breakfast, lunch and dinner, moreover, for the amount for which my wife and children could have lunch, God forbid. And the point is not the minimalism of the requirements of the older generation, but the ability to lead a life. So I fully believe that the hostess can save for retirement. not good, but examples, in the form of deceived pensioners, who took the amount inaccessible to many families of working age. So your deductive abilities are not worth a penny.
                1. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 25 July 2013 01: 52 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Demetrius29
                  Excuse me, but what does the user write that she bought a retirement apartment? Chukchi is not a reader, is he a writer?
                  Reread the context.

                  The second, judging by my parents, (so as not to go far), directly touching my mother, she manages to cook breakfast, lunch and dinner, moreover, full, for the amount that my wife and children could have lunch for lunch.
                  Region, list of products used, amount?

                  So I completely believe that the hostess can save for retirement too. There are several bad, but examples, in the form of deceived pensioners, who took the amounts inaccessible to many families of working age
                  Are you ready to guarantee that these amounts have been accumulated by deferring part of the MINIMUM pensions?

                  So your deductive abilities are not worth a penny.
                  Your logic is lame, and I have not seen a single intelligible example.
                  1. Demetrius29
                    Demetrius29 25 July 2013 02: 30 New
                    0
                    Quote: Yarosvet
                    Reread the context

                    Reread the meaning of the word context to begin with. You do not understand its meaning.
                    Quote: Yarosvet
                    Region, list of products used, amount?

                    Do we have the same pricing policy in all regions? Or explain the pricing in the region, depending on the production of the region and pricing, through suppliers, to the counter?
                    Quote: Yarosvet
                    Are you ready to guarantee that these amounts have been accumulated by deferring part of the MINIMUM pensions?

                    Are you ready to vouch for your own adequacy? Then why doubts in the words of a person who did not say anything inadequate?
                    Quote: Yarosvet
                    Your logic is lame, and I haven’t seen a single intelligible example.

                    I did not see and did not want to see it because of ..... well, for any reason, the words are different.
                    1. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 25 July 2013 04: 22 New
                      +1
                      It's funny to watch how they try to move out in the market when there is nothing to say.

                      Let's start first: she advertises an economical lifestyle, calls herself a mid-level physician (paramedic, nurse, dentist, etc.) and claims by her own example that the income from the above and similar professions is enough for everything necessary for a full life.

                      After mentioning who she and her husband were earlier, and thus making it clear that neither she nor he could make or earn big money - she begins to describe the PRESENT.
                      She claims that she has a MINIMUM pension, but she has enough that she and her husband could afford to go to Turkey, but they do not want to.
                      She then states that she and her husband bought a home, and she does this in the context of her story about the PRESENT.

                      Total: while they worked, they didn’t earn and didn’t steal, but at the expense of savings they bought housing.
                      Now, estimate what income should be and how to save in order to buy housing 130 km from Moscow.

                      Quote: Demetrius29
                      Do we have the same pricing policy in all regions?
                      Are you stupid or STUPID? Why do you think I’m asking about the region?

                      Then why doubts in the words of a person who did not say anything inadequate?
                      It is very curious - that is, you say that for a MINIMUM pension of 5500 rubles (currently the national average), you can save a significant amount without any other income for 10-15 years? laughing

                      Nu-nu.
                      1. CTEPX
                        CTEPX 25 July 2013 05: 31 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        claims by his own example that there is enough income from the above and similar professions

                        All your conclusions are based on this phrase, which your opponent (Tverichanka) not only didn’t utter, but also had the exact opposite (for example, getting a small pension, you can earn (in the farm, taxing, advising) for housing, in Turkey )
                        Thus, you spent a couple of hours on your own misunderstanding)).
                      2. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 25 July 2013 15: 01 New
                        -1
                        Quote: ctepx
                        All your conclusions are based on this phrase, which your opponent (Tverichanka) not only did not pronounce
                        Well so I don’t say that she pronounced it - she wrote it.

                        but also meant the exact opposite
                        Have you read her mind?

                        for example, that getting a small pension, you can earn (in the farm, taxing, advising) on ​​housing, in Turkey)
                        Where in the commentary of Tverichanka from 24.07.2013 22:12 at least a word about taxation, counseling and farming?

                        Thus, you spent a couple of hours on your own misunderstanding)).
                        Glad you spent less on yours.
                      3. CTEPX
                        CTEPX 26 July 2013 05: 36 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        Where in the comment of Tverichanka of 24.07.2013 22:12 at least a word about taxation, counseling and subsidiary plots?


                        Previously, what you are trying to do was called demagogy)). A little later, it was called - to move out in the market)).
                        Quote: Tverichanka
                        I will illustrate your post .... My neighbor, a young woman (son of 8 years old) divorced her husband, bought an old six and started to taxi. Two years later I changed the car to zero (which is called "in cellophane") repaired the house of an alcoholic father, where for debts, all communications were cut off, and continues to work. When it is necessary to leave early on request, he asks the neighbors to take the child for the night, so that he is not afraid and does not oversleep at school. Nobody has ever refused. So she lives. Clever. And she cries that someone didn’t give her something, there’s no time ... And then the men groan ...

                        This is what Tverichanka said a post above.
                      4. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 26 July 2013 15: 01 New
                        0
                        Namely - the post above. The post I’re reviewing (which is lower) does not apply to the post above.
                  2. Demetrius29
                    Demetrius29 25 July 2013 22: 56 New
                    +1
                    Yes, the right is not worth answering him. Before us is a first-rate byd * o, I will not be afraid of this completely censored word. Uneducated, just stupid, but stubborn.
                2. Demetrius29
                  Demetrius29 25 July 2013 11: 49 New
                  -1
                  The topic is closed. I do not consider it necessary to explain to a person, due to mental abilities, or a number of other reasons that do not understand the meaning of what was said.
                3. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 25 July 2013 15: 03 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Demetrius29
                  The topic is closed. I do not consider it necessary to explain to a person, due to mental abilities, or a number of other reasons that do not understand the meaning of what was said.

                  And what can you explain - what did you mess with?
  2. Botanologist
    Botanologist 24 July 2013 22: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: gregor6549
    no special brains and high principles were observed in this completely gray personality,


    Can you tell us more about the "no brains" criterion? You, probably, have achieved a lot more than Putin in politics, with your bright brains?

    This is not to justify the GDP, I just really want to understand what your estimates are based on. Well, there, did you consider the political consequences of the Kursk sinking, or do you have an accurate understanding of the economic consequences of the struggle with the West, or can you by an effort of will make the police honest and the judges incorruptible?
    Or flooded emotions?
  • ed65b
    ed65b 24 July 2013 20: 14 New
    +1
    The pouring will not hurt yourself. All to you at once. Got into paradise?
  • little man
    little man 24 July 2013 20: 35 New
    -1
    Well, who has Vladimir minus ??
    Military? Cossacks? State employees? Guys! Drive away for 100 km from Moscow!
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 24 July 2013 22: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: man
      Drive away for 100 km from Moscow!

      Just to visit me and guess. A bit, however, it will be far away, 30 km away .... Are you still in the dark, is there life beyond the Moscow Ring Road? There is! And much more normal than in Moscow. There are less and the air is cleaner.
  • Tykta
    Tykta 25 July 2013 01: 17 New
    +2
    and Putin is doing his own thing - selling Russia to corporations and individuals. The last stage of privatization is called "everything in general" and in it the bone was thrown at the small officials as a support of the regime, in the format - a simplified mechanism of privatization of objects worth up to 1 million rubles. Soon the prices for everything will be trebled fourfold and we will have nothing to do but to die or force our rights to be knocked out, time is lost.
  • Stasstoychev
    Stasstoychev 26 July 2013 11: 58 New
    0
    Everything is logical enough. For the construction of thought and the persuasiveness of the text "+" is unambiguous.
    One question. What provisions of the "Law on Education" and "Law on Public Health Services" make these services paid? It is necessary to publish such things point by point and with comments (or provide links to resources where it is deciphered) so that as many people as possible can understand and realize this. Specificity is needed. IMHO of course.
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 24 July 2013 11: 00 New
    +5
    Quote: domokl
    I prepared a big fly in the ointment, but I don’t know where to pour it

    Yes, what’s there, the day is visible today or magnetic storms winked
    Hi san hi
  • DEMENTIY
    DEMENTIY 24 July 2013 07: 19 New
    -14
    vladsolo56

    Glory to Putin !!!! cheers to Putin, we all pray for Putin !! Putin is the best in the world !! for Putin as for a stone wall !!! Well, who praises Putin even better? join in
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 24 July 2013 09: 39 New
      33
      Quote: DEMENTIY
      Glory to Putin !!!! cheers to Putin, we all pray for Putin !! Putin is the best in the world !! for Putin as for a stone wall !!! Well, who praises Putin even better? join in

      Obama is constantly stealing ideas from their great leader Putin.
      Vladimir Putin raised the army! Exercises, sudden checks of troops, on combat readiness are constantly carried out. The T-90 Tagil tank surpasses the Merkava-4 in terms of characteristics! "In fact, it raised the salaries of the officers at times. The defenders of Russia, satisfied with service in the units modernized by Putin.
      Ave, Vladimir Vladimirovich !!!
    2. DEMENTIY
      DEMENTIY 24 July 2013 18: 44 New
      +4
      But aren't the people familiar with concepts like irony, sarcasm, etc.?
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    4. Muadipus
      Muadipus 25 July 2013 11: 05 New
      0

      Tits rule!
  • KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 24 July 2013 07: 36 New
    +8
    Quote: vladsolo56
    Well, who praises Putin even better? join in

    Is your Zhirinovsky better with PROKHOROV and MIRONOV?
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 24 July 2013 09: 12 New
      11
      And who told you that Zhirinosky, Prokhorov or Mironov are mine? Yes, they are all the same, they all lie, and they all do not give a damn about us. So I just don’t believe anyone, that's all. And those naive who praise Putin, let them rejoice. We are glad that prices are constantly rising, that housing and communal services are getting more expensive on a regular basis, well, they are also very happy that they give out salaries and do not even delay pensions. We are glad that the oligarchs are richer and richer in our country, and officials as they stole and steal. We are glad that a simple person is not protected in our country, but bandits and scammers of various stripes are protected by law. And we should be glad that it’s not getting worse, thanks to the party of my beloved and her secretary general, the deepest bow
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 July 2013 11: 02 New
        +2
        Quote: vladsolo56
        Housing and communal services is getting more expensive regularly

        It seems to me that housing and utilities tariffs will grow forever lol
      2. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 24 July 2013 11: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: vladsolo56
        Yes, they are all the same, they all lie, and they all do not give a damn about us.

        The logic of your reasoning is understandable and in many ways close to me ... I'm just not a supporter of the extreme in the assessments of various political figures. I sometimes understand the GDP, that as a citizen of RUSSIA, he would hardly have been satisfied with this or that result, but as the president of the state, he must sometimes take such results for granted. To measure our capabilities with our desires at this stage in the development of society ..
      3. Mairos
        Mairos 24 July 2013 11: 46 New
        +1
        Yes, you can constantly scream that everything is bad and all bad! It is necessary to determine who NOW is more likely to meet existing challenges. Who, in the sense, who is the leader of a team that is able to control the power in the country and has the necessary resources for this. There are a lot of worthy people, but ... they are not a team, and often just antagonists. Now only Putin’s team is really capable of preventing the liberals from coming to power in the style of the 90s. It’s time to realize.
        1. Garrin
          Garrin 24 July 2013 13: 59 New
          +7
          Quote: Mairos
          Now only Putin’s team is really capable of preventing the liberals from coming to power in the style of the 90s.

          And you do not think that Putin's team is the very liberals of the 90s. Chubais, Kudrin, Gref and others. The Ozero cooperative rules.
      4. CAMS
        CAMS 24 July 2013 12: 46 New
        10
        ME 35 AND I HAVE EVERYTHING APPEARED AT ME AT PUTIN !!! WORK WIFE CHILDREN'S APARTMENT !!! I PRAY AT IT AND NOW I AM NOT SHAME FOR THE MOTHERLAND !!!
        1. little man
          little man 24 July 2013 20: 54 New
          -1
          Oh, you are lucky!
          Do you even have a dad or friends "born in the USSR" what would you make such conclusions ?? am
          One of the deadly sins - do not make yourself an idol!
          1. Garrin
            Garrin 24 July 2013 21: 12 New
            +4
            Quote: man
            Do you even have a dad or friends "born in the USSR" what would you make such conclusions ?? am

            Good comment "+".
            Now I will write.
            I am 55 and I was born under Khrushchev !!! AND I HAVE A LIFE, CORN, "KUZKINA'S MOTHER", THE APARTMENT OF KHRUSHCHOVK AND I AM NOT ASHAMED TO THIS DAY!
            I forgot.
            THE INSTITUTE IS FINISHED AND THE WORK APPEARED AT ME UNDER BREZHNEV !!!
            SERVED THE ARMY UNDER ANDROPOV AND CHERNENKO !!!
            WIFE APPEARED AT GORBACHEV !!!
            APARTMENT - UNDER YELTSIN !!!
            And I won’t forget anyone.

            1. Muadipus
              Muadipus 25 July 2013 11: 37 New
              +3
              You see, all my life we ​​have been collecting bits and pieces, there a little bit, there a little bit. And comrade KAMS did all the same under Putin, in fact, like me, I am 37. Under Gorbachev, my homeland was stolen from me. Under Yeltsin, I was deprived of my dream of becoming a "military", I dropped out of the military school looking at how begging my officers-commanders and their families were falling apart, there were periods when I could not afford to buy a chocolate bar for a girl, and under Putin, I received a second higher education, opened a company ( because there was no racketeering), bought an apartment, got married, etc., etc. there is really a lot to list. Gorbachev and Yeltsin lowered the country below the plinth. They did what the enemies could not do for centuries. Hordes of enemies could not take away an inch of our land, and these two monsters destroyed the country, made the fraternal peoples enemies before ... humiliated the country for whose greatness millions of our ancestors laid down their heads. and in this contrast, you condemn Putin. Putin saved Russia - he has already gone down in history as the great leader of the nation.
              And yet, before you condemn or evaluate Putin as a person and as a leader, compare yourself with him. Would you yourself be able to do the same or more individually? Wu is faithful that most of the great critical husbands cannot put things in order in their families - but all the same.
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 25 July 2013 15: 18 New
                0
                Quote: Muadipus
                Under Gorbachev, my homeland was stolen from me. Under Yeltsin, they deprived of the dream of becoming a "military man"

                under Putin, received a second higher education, opened a company (because there was no racket), bought an apartment, got married, etc. etc.

                And what was your position in the 2nd half of 1999?
                1. Muadipus
                  Muadipus 25 July 2013 16: 47 New
                  0
                  but that same shitty one, having a higher education, worked for a pittance as a security guard in a Swedish company. I remember my mother scolded me for buying a bottle of 0,5 Borjomi ...
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 25 July 2013 17: 54 New
                    0
                    Quote: Muadipus
                    but that same shitty

                    And in the 97th - worse or better in relation to the 99th?
                    1. Muadipus
                      Muadipus 25 July 2013 20: 27 New
                      0
                      Are you trolling me? or did you decide to conduct a social poll?
                    2. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 25 July 2013 21: 05 New
                      -1
                      No, I'm just trying to explain your mistake: the pattern is simple - in the 97th you were worse than in the 99th, and in 2001 worse than in 2003.

                      The only thing is that this subjectivity of yours has nothing to do with Putin - it is your personal professional, career, economic, social, etc. growth.

                      And even more so, it is completely incorrect to transfer it to the scale of the whole country, and to conclude that the country lives better because you began to live better.
                    3. Muadipus
                      Muadipus 26 July 2013 00: 03 New
                      -1
                      If you really want polemics ...
                      The only thing is that this subjectivity of yours has nothing to do with Putin - it is your personal professional, career, economic, social, etc. growth.

                      And even more so, it is completely incorrect to transfer it to the scale of the whole country, and to conclude that the country lives better because you began to live better.

                      I do not see the contradictions. I do not pretend to be the ultimate truth, all my judgments are purely subjective, and here I agree with you. BUT!
                      I compare not only with myself but also with my surroundings. And my environment is peer friends of different classes - these are my parents and their friends who also have different fates but are in about the same age group, These are my girls who are usually younger than me, and therefore another age group and therefore their parents are usually younger than mine and are also in a different group. Plus, neighbors, colleagues, and just familiar faces in the transport. In other words, I described the usual habitat in which each of us lives, with rare exceptions. From this it follows that my worldviews are a priori subjective, but summarizing the observations of the worldviews of each subject of my environment, I have the right to declare the correctness of my judgments because they are based on an analysis of a group of people. Considering that after my Motherland was stolen from me and I became a cosmopolitan, I was able to analyze the life of a wide circle of my friends from Ukraine, Belarus, Tatarstan, Leningrad, Moscow, the Kemerovo region .... and to a lesser extent individual cities Russia (by occupation, since 2000 I travel a lot around the country), then I really lay claim to the truth.

                      I hope not too thought wrapped :)

                      In addition, I will say that there is such a thing as the International Index of Happiness, the calculation principle of which is not far from my attitude towards my environment.

                      from Wikipedia:
                      The IIA is based on general utilitarian principles that most people want to live a long and fulfilling life, and countries strive to do everything possible to achieve the maximum well-being of their citizens, using their available resources wisely and without harming the environment. Three indicators are used to calculate the index: subjective satisfaction with people's lives, life expectancy and the so-called "ecological footprint."
                    4. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 26 July 2013 02: 55 New
                      0
                      The happiness index is good, but extremely far from objectivity - I prefer to take the guaranteed minimum at %% to past periods and minimums of neighboring countries. And here all oh how not rainbow.
                    5. Muadipus
                      Muadipus 26 July 2013 11: 34 New
                      -2
                      Do you know the difference between an impotent pessimist and an impotent optimist? Well, it seems to me that this is your case. :)
                    6. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 26 July 2013 14: 59 New
                      0
                      A pessimist is a well-informed optimist - this is my case.
  • Tverichanka
    Tverichanka 24 July 2013 22: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: KAMS
    TO ME 35

    Thanks, like-minded person!
  • Forget
    Forget 24 July 2013 13: 13 New
    0
    Quote: vladsolo56
    We are glad that a simple person is not protected in our country, but bandits and scammers of various stripes are protected by law.

    You are still a prisoner of socialism of the USSR. I would like to recall capitalism now, but it is not customary to pursue social policy under it.
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 24 July 2013 14: 54 New
      +6
      Quote: Forget

      You are still a prisoner of socialism of the USSR

      Is it bad?
      Quote: Forget
      I would like to recall capitalism now, but it is not customary to pursue social policy under it.

      Do you really think that's good?
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 24 July 2013 17: 23 New
      -1
      Quote: Forget
      I would like to recall capitalism now, but it is not customary to pursue social policy under it.

      Article 7 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
  • mmmakm
    mmmakm 24 July 2013 13: 14 New
    +1
    Same. And not laziness.
  • cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 24 July 2013 14: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: vladsolo56
    And we should be glad that it’s not getting worse, thanks to the party of my beloved and her secretary general, the deepest bow

    That’s how you had to broadcast under Brezhnev and under Andropov, and you would now, happiness!
  • SPACE
    SPACE 24 July 2013 16: 11 New
    +2
    Quote: vladsolo56
    So I just don’t believe anyone, that's all

    "If a person does not know where he is sailing, there are no favorable winds for him." If you don't believe anyone, then what can you call for?
  • Tverichanka
    Tverichanka 24 July 2013 22: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: vladsolo56
    . We are glad that prices are constantly growing,

    Yesterday I agreed with you, but today I bet ... And where do not grow? What are the countries. In Europe? In America? In China? In Japan? Where? .... I hope you will not argue that we lost the Cold War? What do with the vanquished? An example is Germany after WWII, and interestingly, Germany still has not become an INDEPENDENT state, although almost 70 years have passed. And why didn’t you think about it? Think about it. Everything is obvious .... But I assure you that in 70 years, we will be completely independent. Or we won’t be at all. But so that the second doesn’t happen, you need to give Putin the opportunity to do what he does ..... You know, probably, how IV Stalin restored the country? did he ask the people? Nothing of the kind. Do you remember the loans? I didn't give a damn, do you have bread or not, the house was intact or burned out during the war, children were shod or swollen .... And if we take into account that the losses of industry in the 90s many times more than during the war, and what remains belongs to private individuals and not always to our citizens, what do you order to do? .....
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 25 July 2013 14: 31 New
      -1
      We do not say how it was with this or that, it was different. But now it’s about Putin, and he is extolled as the messiah, which is what I don’t like. He is not a messiah or even a popular leader. And the fact that people often scream hoarsely that there is no better and no matter how war is, this does not mean that Putin is irreplaceable and the best, that’s the essence of my statements and my initial comments. However, the majority of those stubborn are ready to pray for Putin, only so far so good, those who are praying should a normal crisis happen or oil and gas prices will fall, I’ll see what they sing. No wonder they speak from love to hate one step, it’s about idols, if anyone didn’t know
  • little man
    little man 24 July 2013 20: 48 New
    -1
    Well, why on these flawed ones and the choice then falls ??
    Yes, hundreds of thousands of worthy people in Russia! That's just kabaev who the hell will let him go to the feeder !!
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  • Ejik_026
    Ejik_026 24 July 2013 10: 06 New
    22
    There are no ideal people, just there are those who are slightly better than others.
    Stalin was not ideal, Lukashenko was not ideal, Putin was not ideal either.
    But all of them are tens to hundreds of times better than the same Obama or Bush.
  • Mairos
    Mairos 24 July 2013 10: 15 New
    -20
    Ah ha ha .. How witty are you joking.
    1. Mairos
      Mairos 24 July 2013 15: 55 New
      +4
      Minus one! Do you even understand what I wrote about?
      About this one
      ------------------------------
      "Glory to Putin !!!! hurray to Putin, we all pray for Putin !! Putin is the best in the world !! for Putin like a stone wall !!! well, who will praise Putin even better? Join us"
      -----------------------------
      He is -55 and me -13 for his criticism is super-logical !! laughing
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 25 July 2013 05: 56 New
        -1
        Quote: Mairos
        Minus one! Do you even understand what I wrote about?

        There is such a specially-trained button - quote)).
        They say that its use allows you to personify your answer. laughing
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  • EVIL
    EVIL 24 July 2013 10: 57 New
    10
    And why hide - our president is good.

    He has to work for a long time, still dohren, of flaws in the country of breakthrough - but to eat what is, work is, the country is being built - the truth is written in the article.

    The main issue that I personally don’t like in the politics of Putin and his government is the NO question of controlling the absorption and humiliation of the Russian population by the Caucasus.

    But even despite this, our president is better than any Western counterpart))
    In Russia, one super brand is Putin.
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 24 July 2013 10: 59 New
    +1
    Quote: vladsolo56
    Glory to Putin !!!! cheers to Putin, we all pray for Putin !! Putin is the best in the world !! for Putin as for a stone wall !!! Well, who praises Putin even better? join in

    You know, dear, but you also need to be able to criticize hi
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 24 July 2013 14: 07 New
      +6
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      You know, dear, but you also need to be able to criticize hi

      Sorry, there is no Three-volt. He would now explain to all of us how to LOVE Putin. laughing
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 24 July 2013 14: 29 New
        +3
        Quote: Garrin
        Sorry, there is no Three-volt.

        Do not wake a dare while it is quiet. lol
  • SPACE
    SPACE 24 July 2013 11: 24 New
    13
    Quote: vladsolo56
    Glory to Putin !!!!

    Gorbachev is bad, Yeltsin is bad, Putin is bad ... You cannot please the Lord, who do you need? Putin is a sober and sober realist, in this crazy world, created by madmen, he is like a lighthouse indicating directions to the coast, but not everything is so perfect and not absolutely right, but the process is underway, there is progress, and certainly he is not alone, but his merit in creating team of professional people. So your irony is useless; you yourself do not know what you want. As the familiar colonel said, the most worthless people on earth are those who doubt and hesitate, you can’t rely on and rely on them ...
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 24 July 2013 12: 23 New
      -4
      How then to be with a saying seven times measure. cut once. Why measure it seven times, you have no doubt measured it once and cut it, so what happened crookedly, but didn’t doubt it quickly. No thanks, agility is needed, as one smart person said, only when catching fleas.
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 24 July 2013 15: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: vladsolo56
        What then to do with a saying seven times measure. cut once

        Are you talking about builders? laughing Another saying for you: "Do not be afraid to do, do not be afraid".
        Quote: vladsolo56
        No thanks, agility is needed, as one smart person said, only when catching fleas.

        If we consider that fleas are nightlocks, bulk and other liberal-dermocratic parasitic insect-like, then it’s just as necessary and not only for fleas ...
        ZY
        "A smart one looks for an exit, and a stupid one looks for an entrance.
        "A fool seeks mistakes in others, clever in himself, and a wise forgives everyone."
      2. Mairos
        Mairos 24 July 2013 15: 58 New
        +3
        Uh-huh .. The most correct ones since the beginning of the 90s argue which of them is correct. Oratory is being honed. What's the point? Putin is doing at least something and this "something" is not so little !! And the rest only talk a lot.
  • to4kavserdce
    to4kavserdce 24 July 2013 14: 24 New
    +7
    I am for!!!! But haters or envious judging by the like enough!
    But as they say, the family is not without a fool (slightly changed the phrase =)) !!
    If it weren’t for Putin, gentlemen, comrades ... and not your own, but the American ...
  • Alez
    Alez 24 July 2013 14: 49 New
    +7
    As for our president, there is no need to have high hopes that the president can change everything. The explosives have one life, and there is no one to plow on the galleys except him. For everything to change for the better, you need to start with yourself, then with your family, with your environment. And everything will begin to change for the better. And who among those sitting on the forum has recently done a useful work (at least manusic), which has benefited the community around. I made a remark on the street to a bully who threw a cigarette butt, young people drinking beer and swearing in public, moved the granny across the road, landscaped the yard, showed a male example growing up, did an act that your child or grandson would tell friends about with pride, etc. ????????????
    We only learned how to dirty everyone and everything, without seeing an opponent, pounding on the keys of a computer.
    Problems in us gentlemen jurors.
  • Alexander_
    Alexander_ 24 July 2013 17: 26 New
    0
    Nonsense. No one prays. Behind a stone wall? - Some reliability is felt. The best in the world? - A common person.
  • vjhbc
    vjhbc 24 July 2013 17: 46 New
    +3
    those who put you a minus forget that we already had this only under the USSR, remember Gorbachev's "victories" in the west and jo-pa inside the country, well, where did this lead I hope no one needs
    Quote: vladsolo56
    Glory to Putin !!!! cheers to Putin, we all pray for Putin !! Putin is the best in the world !! for Putin as for a stone wall !!! Well, who praises Putin even better? join in
  • Neo1982
    Neo1982 24 July 2013 18: 53 New
    0
    What exactly does Putin explain to Fedorov:
  • ed65b
    ed65b 24 July 2013 20: 02 New
    0
    But really the best. Or is there an alternative?
  • rodevaan
    rodevaan 25 July 2013 03: 53 New
    0
    Quote: vladsolo56
    Glory to Putin !!!! cheers to Putin, we all pray for Putin !! Putin is the best in the world !! for Putin as for a stone wall !!! Well, who praises Putin even better? join in


    - No, but let's get down to our usual Russian business again - we will whine, moan, groan, hysterical again - how "everything is bad", how "everything is terrible", how "everything is scary", how "it is impossible to live", which is we are a "torture state", what a bloody gebnya everywhere, how they oppress (it is not clear just how and how, but it does not matter) "freedom of the individual", that there is a bad mood, there is no good weather, there are always few attendants (hmm .. are there really a lot of them), the wife is angry at home, the husband is drunk again, the son is smoking, the daughter is wandering around the taverns, the head of the Kazel, the girlfriend did not give, and so on and so forth ...

    PS - The answer is not in the topic of the article, but in the topic of eternal whining "how bad we are." For this omnipresent universal cry of Yaroslavna is tired of nothing ...
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 25 July 2013 14: 38 New
      -1
      Do not whine, and do not whine, you need to think with your head, if there is nothing to think of listening to smart people, it is enough in Russia, and this is not Zhirinovsky, nor Navalny are other screamers, there are those to whom you can listen. There are many of them and it’s possible to list all of them for a long time. Although, for example, Boldyrev, Gubanov, Musin, I respect and consider no less patriots than those who are inflamed for Putin here. Until people understand that it is necessary to listen to the smart ones, and not to those who fly the plane, we will praise what is not there.
  • Stasstoychev
    Stasstoychev 26 July 2013 11: 47 New
    0
    and who makes you? repeat
  • Chuck-norris
    Chuck-norris 24 July 2013 06: 40 New
    56
    In American forums, they write that they envy us. We were lucky with such a president!

    In principle, I believe that the so-beloved in Western countries, the "principle of change of power" and "no more than two terms in office" is itself completely undemocratic and fraudulent. It limits not so much the right of the “potential tyrant” as the right of the people to free choice. If a certain president showed himself on the good side in two terms, improved his life in the country and citizens want to see him at the head of state for a third, fourth or even tenth term - this is their right. This THEIR rights are limited, not the "power-hungry" candidate.

    In fact, the “change of power” is necessary solely so that a legitimate and democratically elected government is not able to prevail over an illegal and undemocratic power - the power of big capital. It is easy to guess that when incompetent and unprofessional leaders successively replace the head of state, like on a carousel, the real power remains in the hands of the “shadow leaders” from the financial and industrial elite.

    No, the truth: a doctor can get the highest qualification category if you have at least 7 or 10 years of work experience (depending on education); the municipal councilor of the 1 class must have at least 10 years of service in the municipal service; a teacher only for getting 10 level (not the highest of 14!) - the experience of teaching from 5 to 10 years ... and so on. Why, then, do you need any experience to guide the country and power over millions of people, and the leader who has received this unique experience in 8 years must leave his job and give way to another newcomer ??

    But it’s interesting if such an order were introduced for doctors, drivers, pilots, or any profession in general: you have worked 8 for years and go to another industry, but an accountant, an agronomist or a musician will come in and start to study again ... Would you like this? I guess not.
    1. Gooch
      Gooch 24 July 2013 06: 49 New
      0
      Quote: Chuck-Norris
      In American forums, they write that they envy us. We were lucky with such a president!








      In the west, Volodya is just being cuddled, I don’t understand what Putin can change the brains of the west for? On Botox chtoli? Or will Viagra throw?
    2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 24 July 2013 07: 31 New
      +2
      An interesting view, but there is one serious problem, this is a possible usurpation of power by one part of the elite, and their opponents in this situation in most cases are subjected to repression, up to the physical destruction and expropriation of their property in favor of the powerful. Of course, democracy is not a panacea, it would be interesting to read about which thread the universal system! hi
    3. DEMENTIY
      DEMENTIY 24 July 2013 09: 24 New
      +8
      Bravo commandant!
      1. DEMENTIY
        DEMENTIY 24 July 2013 09: 33 New
        +1
        Sorry - to comet Chuck Noris what
    4. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 24 July 2013 09: 44 New
      -13
      There is such a clever phrase: power spoils a person, unlimited power spoils unlimited. So having received power for a long time, the more so uncontrolled as ours, I can imagine what a person imagines about himself.
      1. Ivan_Ivanov
        Ivan_Ivanov 24 July 2013 10: 23 New
        +7
        This mantra was invented by the liberals. Are you sure of its exceptional infallibility and truth?

        Here is the speech of a man who has been in power for several decades and who is called the greatest tyrant of our time. I did not see here the gram of corruption.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqyRoke3TAI
        1. vladsolo56
          vladsolo56 24 July 2013 12: 13 New
          +2
          This was invented even when the liberals, as you put it and there was no mention of it.
    5. Ivan_Ivanov
      Ivan_Ivanov 24 July 2013 10: 19 New
      +3
      In fact, the “change of power” is necessary solely so that a legitimate and democratically elected government is not able to prevail over an illegal and undemocratic power - the power of big capital. good good good

      Only how to explain this, simple, obvious, self-evident idea to explain to people? They repeat, like mantras that power should constantly change ...
    6. slvevg
      slvevg 24 July 2013 10: 37 New
      0
      That is why in England the monarchy, and even half of Europe there bully
    7. sanyabasik
      sanyabasik 24 July 2013 10: 40 New
      +7
      Quote: Chuck-Norris
      In American forums, they write that they envy us. We were lucky with such a president!


      Of course we were lucky with the president.
      We were not lucky with corruption in all echelons of power, we were not very lucky with the Ozero cooperative, we were not very lucky with the level of education and medicine. With deputies, governors, mayors with their billions and real estate abroad, not 100% lucky. Even with newcomers who, after the collapse of the USSR, squeezed out our compatriots, and now everyone has come to Russia themselves. We were not lucky with old people and disabled people, with war veterans who have not yet received an apartment.
      And with the president we were lucky. Personally, I'm at 146%
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 24 July 2013 23: 29 New
        0
        Quote: sanyabasik
        still apartments not received.

        Why do you have no complaints about the USSR authorities about this? Why were they not given apartments then? I remember how they fought in queues with veterans that they came up without queuing for children's tights. So let's not ... my father went through the whole war, I know what I'm talking about. By the way, after the war, almost everyone gave their medals to the children to play. That is, then the men did not think that they had done something out of the ordinary. They did what they had to do, they defended the Motherland . What could be otherwise, they didn’t even have it in their heads. And they didn’t consider themselves heroes. And they didn’t like to talk about the war. How many times did I ask my dad, tell me about the war. And in response I always heard, “And what can one say? good in her? "... Others they were. Better. Honest. Independent. Reliable.
    8. bomg.77
      bomg.77 24 July 2013 10: 53 New
      +4
      Quote: Chuck-Norris
      and the leader who has gained this unique experience in 8 years should leave work and give way to the next newcomer ??
      The ignoramus is easy to manipulate, and so the inexperienced are struggling to stand at the helm of Russia.
      Putin would not have done well about him now.
      Under Yeltsin, Russia was humiliated and taught how to live, but now the situation has changed in the opposite direction.
      If he understood internal problems (corruption, medicine, education)
      it would be great at all, but here the enemy is more serious here the Russians, and they do not give up laughing
      1. a52333
        a52333 24 July 2013 15: 42 New
        +3
        Quote: bomg.77
        If he understood internal problems (corruption, medicine, education)

        Well, I almost agree with you:
        Who "generates" the ratings? - rating agencies. They placed us somewhere between Nigeria and Paraguay, already in 147th place. But whose are they? - American.
        And that means they think IN ACCORDANCE WITH ITS INTERESTS.
        This is part of politics: yes you are undemocratic, you drink a lot, corrupt people, both hands are left-handed, and grow from ****. Understand the deeper they push us in, the worse we think about ourselves, the less we are ready to resist pressure.
        Although in fact, speaking of corruption, they are ahead of everyone combined. Need some examples?
        1) Fed.
        2) financial groups appoint congress, president.
        3) Financial groups underpay taxes.
        etc. etc.
        1. Ivan_Ivanov
          Ivan_Ivanov 24 July 2013 16: 57 New
          +2
          What are you doing? This is not corruption! This is democracy, legal lobbying, etc.
          (sarcasm)
        2. bomg.77
          bomg.77 24 July 2013 19: 56 New
          -1
          Quote: a52333

          Well, I almost agree with you:
          Who "generates" the ratings? - rating agencies. They placed us somewhere between Nigeria and Paraguay, already in 147th place. But whose are they? - American.
          And this means that they consider, taking into account their interests.
          This is part of politics: yes you are undemocratic, you drink a lot, corrupt people, both hands are left-handed, and grow from ****. Understand the deeper they push us in, the worse we think about ourselves, the less we are ready to resist pressure.
          Although in fact, speaking of corruption, they are ahead of everyone combined. Need some examples?
          1) Fed.
          2) financial groups appoint congress, president.
          3) Financial groups underpay taxes.
          etc. etc.
          Dear I agree with you about ratings, this is all far-fetched, however, to deny that corruption is from the bottom to the top is a fact and a fact that the system in Russia has always worked like this, and Peter talked about it. corruption under Stalin, but now it’s not possible to do it, we have too many liberal laws! Putin, roughly speaking, does not have normal tools to fight corruption, that it is like a mockery and it doesn’t scare corrupt officials. I think that after the Olympics they will take it seriously, for these gavrikov. I about myself and t I don’t even think about Russia badly and never thought of them and their ratings do not affect me. Regarding the Fed and all their frauds, I also know and they will reap the benefits, all these families that control and plunder! Don’t hesitate! Respectfully! hi
          1. Tverichanka
            Tverichanka 24 July 2013 23: 40 New
            -1
            Quote: bomg.77
            we have corruption from the bottom up to the top

            And who are these mysterious corrupt officials? Have they arrived from Mars? No, our neighbors, friends, acquaintances, or even ourselves, are not without sin. Let's be honest. Isn't this how things are? Aren't they trying to settle down in the so-called "bread" place ? Alas and ah! ... It seems that the person lived normally and was even honest, but how did he get to where you can profit, where did that go? And away we go ... Few people do not change. Yes, they do not stay in such places .Either they leave themselves or they "leave." And how to fight? Comes honest and good, and becomes a bribe taker. What to do? Is there a recipe? Except for the execution? And then everyone thinks that they will be on the towers. touches?
    9. Mairos
      Mairos 24 July 2013 11: 50 New
      -1
      Gold words. This principle is good for politicians and bad for statesmen. And it is also convenient to "legally" remove from power anyone who seriously tries to change the state of affairs that does not correspond to liberal rules.
    10. Alekseev
      Alekseev 24 July 2013 12: 11 New
      +2
      quote = Chuck-Norris] It is easy to guess that when the incompetent and unprofessional leaders successively replace the head of state, like on a carousel, the real power remains in the hands of the “shadow leaders” [/ quote]
      But Serdyukov was appointed Minister of Defense! wassat
      And there are many others like that too ...
      This means that experience and professionalism are necessary for the very person, and the closest assistants - ministers are not required [
  • domokl
    domokl 24 July 2013 06: 42 New
    15
    I agree in many ways. Once I was reproached that I was for Putin. But the facts are stubborn. The president’s policy is the country’s business. And all the critics are slipping into local problems. And here we are. However, we choose the local ones ourselves, how it doesn't sound sad.
    The West understood very well that Russia is not plasticine now, but cement ... Poke your hand with a soft one, it’s even pleasant with your hand, but jump on it from the second floor, you’ll break a stone ...
    1. Gooch
      Gooch 24 July 2013 06: 54 New
      -2
      Quote: domokl
      I agree in many ways. Once I was reproached that I was for Putin. But the facts are stubborn. The president’s policy is the country’s business. And all the critics are slipping into local problems. And here we are. However, we choose the local ones ourselves, how it doesn't sound sad.

      put it near the monitor, they say it’s driving away troubles
      1. domokl
        domokl 24 July 2013 06: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: Gooch
        put it near the monitor, they say it’s driving away troubles

        Go to Petrosyan’s website ... There they collect jokes laughing
    2. Hleb
      Hleb 24 July 2013 07: 28 New
      -1
      However, just the local ones we choose for ourselves
      So you chose Nazarov and removed Polezhaev?
      Rakhimov, too, the people spent on retirement? Shaimieva?
      Refinery also gave people Peter?
      1. domokl
        domokl 24 July 2013 09: 09 New
        0
        Quote: Gleb
        So you chose Nazarov and removed Polezhaev?

        But how did Dvorkovsky? Muscovites choose? And deputies of all levels? Lunatics tried? Can we be more honest, at least in front of ourselves?
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 24 July 2013 12: 39 New
          +2
          that's just the point, so what do you sketch here that:
          However, just the local ones we choose for ourselves
          ?
          made a mistake - admit, and do not supplement my comment by performing a "triple toe loop"
    3. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 24 July 2013 09: 19 New
      -2
      Where did you see the cement, go around the sites, and see what kind of cement this is, Russians pour mud on everyone (Caucasians, Tatars, and others), and all the same pour mud on Russians, and this is what you call cement? and so it is not necessary to jump on it, only a good wind will blow on it and it will fly apart.
    4. Uzoliv
      Uzoliv 24 July 2013 09: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: domokl
      However, just the local ones we choose for ourselves

      I don’t know how it is with you, but in my Nizhny Novgorod I can choose deputies of the OZS and the City Duma. It seems to be quite a few, complete legislative elections. And according to the executive: I don’t choose the governor, the elections were also taken away from us, the heads of the district of the city are also not elected. And what happens in the OZS and the Duma, obedient guys are sitting, as a rule with United Russia, and they can be understood by almost everyone here has a business, so they have no reason to argue with the executive branch. The executive branch brilliantly controls the local legislative elections; an inappropriate person will not get there. And even if something goes wrong then 2, 3, 4 people are not afraid, they will not change anything. And in the end it turns out this: power is by itself, the townspeople by themselves. I would not call such a society a monolith (or cement).
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 24 July 2013 13: 02 New
        0
        !!! that's just the point. and we have people voted, and in the end, the video that was already laid out. People still remained to blame. We lost the factory. We breathe burning from the factory, and the money went to the capital. Well, the governor did not work long after that
    5. Matroskin
      Matroskin 24 July 2013 10: 05 New
      +1
      And what else do we choose? Yes, the government chooses itself and we are to comply with the formalities. When Putin and Medvedev were reshuffled almost six months before the elections, they already knew who would win, who would pick how much and how they would steer. So it is with the local authorities. Whoever needs it and will be "chosen" ...
      1. afire
        afire 24 July 2013 13: 19 New
        +2
        the article is cool, but you are sick of these phrases - Russians increasingly respected in the world.
  • serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 24 July 2013 06: 44 New
    19
    I am ready to shout "Glory to Putin!" If he copes with total theft, corruption and nepotism in the system of power of the Russian Federation.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 24 July 2013 07: 42 New
      21
      Quote: serge-68-68
      I am ready to shout "Glory to Putin!" If he copes with total theft, corruption and nepotism in the system of power of the Russian Federation.

      - In general, all criticism of Putin comes down to this claim, which he has not yet coped with. To be honest, Stalin coped with it in Russia for a rather short time, and even then there are substantial grounds to suspect that it was precisely those who wanted to "corrupt" him with impunity to their fullest extent that they poisoned him. So whether Stalin coped with corruption is a question. This does not apply to Stalin's activities in other things, where he is incomparable and beyond criticism, especially as a builder of the country from a plow to a nuclear-space power. In all other cases of history, bribe-takers were the headache of the Russian state, and they are now.
      Part of the reason for corruption is in the very structure of the capital world. If you build state capitalism, that is, all large enterprises belong to the state, then top managers begin to abuse. If everything is transferred to private hands, then those to whom it was transferred, henceforth referred to as oligarchs, enter into a conspiracy with officials. Serge 68-68, I join your wish, but in a given Russia, capitalist Russia, this is impracticably PRINCIPAL. Or doable, but after a hundred years, when the grandchildren of the current oligarchs are refined into decent people, patrites of their country. This partly happened in the West. But we cannot wait a hundred years. And in this state of Russia no one will give this hundred years, in the world of capital, it is customary to devour a friend, and those who have more capital devour the one who has less. With Rothschilds-Rockefellers, capitals reach trillions of dollars, draw your own conclusions. Any Prokhorov will still bend in front of them, using his media resources against his country, for the Rothschilds-Rockefellers can instruct their structures that they buy from Prokhorov to change the seller to any other. This will bring billions in losses to both these structures and Prokhorov. But billions of dollars in losses for the Rothschilds-Rockefellers is not a question, but for Prokhorov?
      There is only one conclusion - we must abandon capitalism and reincarnate the best things that the USSR had. But without a civil war and internationally, gradually expanding the influence of the mainland on a voluntary basis. If there is a steady economic growth and sustainable scientific and technological development, everyone will begin to join themselves, there will be no need to entreat anyone. The USSR did not beg Cubans, Chileans, Nicaraguans, North Koreans, etc. They themselves were fascinated by the development of a powerful state, which some forty years ago (at that time) was at the same level of development as they are today.
      1. little man
        little man 24 July 2013 21: 15 New
        0
        We translate into Russian - it is necessary to abandon capitalism and reincarnate the best things that the USSR had. But without a civil war and internationally, gradually expanding the influence of the mainland on a voluntary basis. -nationalization.
        OK! The only way!
        And the rest will add up. Here are the chinas before my eyes
  • Orel
    Orel 24 July 2013 06: 48 New
    20
    Great seen in the distance. We will evaluate Putin’s real benefit for Russia much later. Each will make a conclusion for himself, I hope he will be positive. It's nice when you and your country are respected, but they are considered with your opinion ...
  • smel
    smel 24 July 2013 06: 53 New
    15
    Nobody argues about successes in the foreign policy arena, some improvement within the country, a decrease in the number of people picking their garbage bins, and other things. Yes. This has changed. But here is the failure in reforming healthcare, education, the collapse of the army with Serdyukov’s hands, Navalny’s suspiciously fast landing and at the same time dangling around Vasilyev’s shops, whose plume of thieves’s episodes is much larger, the immense growth of the bureaucratic apparatus, the catastrophic stratification of society into rich and poor, and much more (just too lazy to list) - this is also there. 13 years in power is enough time to solve most problems. For me personally, the evaluation of the actions of those in power and their real responsibility is of great importance. And I think that we live this way only because no one has ever answered for anything. So I will NOT emit saliva from joyful episodes and events specified in the article
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 24 July 2013 10: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: smel
      the collapse of the army with Serdyukov’s hands, Navalny’s suspiciously fast landing

      And this, in your opinion - comparable things?
      This is the same as reproaching the head of the district not only for the fact that he appointed and then removed the head of the education department, who turned out to be a thief, but also "suspiciously quickly" imprisoned a thief who worked part-time as a school guard)). At the same time, everyone knows that the thief-guard works in the mayor's team)). And the head of the district, it seems, is at odds with the mayor)).
      1. smel
        smel 24 July 2013 16: 15 New
        0
        STERHOU
        Well, you did not finish reading my post. It is said in comparison with Navalny-Vasiliev. And about the appointment and removal.Let me remind you that between these events more than FIVE YEARS. And if the head of the district during this period has not figured out that he has a thief at the department, then chapter it's time to free the chair, especially since the thief stole a lot throughout the region. And the thief’s gang was made up by a solid one.
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 25 July 2013 06: 12 New
          -2
          Quote: smel

          smel


          Yesterday, 16: 15

          ↑ ↓


          STERKHUN You have not fully read my post.

          Yes, not - until the end)).
          I have a speech that Navalny is an outspoken, trained enemy of Russia (not Gobachev, but Trotsky), and blaming VVP for Serdyukov's late resignation and immediately on Navalny's "suspiciously quick landing" (even in comparison with Vasilyeva) is a stylistic mistake) ). For Navalny it is necessary to praise him)).
  • Alex Nick
    Alex Nick 24 July 2013 07: 00 New
    +5
    Shouting cheers is still too early, it seems to me. Wait and see where the jet will blow.
  • DEMENTIY
    DEMENTIY 24 July 2013 07: 06 New
    10
    Spin it or not, and the man is real GDP!
    1. Middle-brother
      Middle-brother 24 July 2013 09: 33 New
      -14
      Quote: DEMENTIY
      Spin it or not, and the man is real GDP!

      Og. I made myself clear plastic and injected Botox. Now your beauty has become!
      1. Inspector
        Inspector 24 July 2013 10: 15 New
        +4
        Envy is a bad feeling. Why should he walk wrinkled now? You look at business.
        1. Middle-brother
          Middle-brother 24 July 2013 10: 36 New
          -6
          Inspector
          There is nothing to envy
      2. Russ69
        Russ69 24 July 2013 10: 58 New
        +3
        Quote: Middle Brother
        Og. I made myself clear plastic and injected Botox. Now your beauty has become!

        Putin’s most deadly criticism ... Urgent need for barricades ...laughing
      3. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 24 July 2013 14: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: Middle Brother
        Now your beauty has become!

        You also write that he went to LGBT. Well, he has a young girl, you can’t look to him like an aviary at death.
  • Taurus
    Taurus 24 July 2013 07: 17 New
    33
    The author of the article +500. I lived under the unremarkable Brezhnev, then Yeltsin was ashamed. I hate fiercely (I have no censored words here) Gorbachev. They say that after a murder he doesn’t sleep well, but if I could officially, by law, shoot Gorbach, I would drop the entire horn from the Kalash into his filthy face immediately, without any thought, and for a long time I would put his corpse in the pile of manure with his butt and fell asleep would be happy. I always voted for GDP. And I will vote. Damned humpback. What did he do with the Slavic race. Not a single Hitler has succeeded; be damned before God.
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 24 July 2013 14: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: Taurus
      and for a long time he would have hammered his corpse with a butt into a pile of manure and would fall asleep happy

      But sho such a thing is happening, it’s not a discussion of the article, it’s a turn to a psychotherapist, damn it. Let’s calm guys, otherwise we won’t have enough emotions and health. stop
    2. Very old
      Very old 24 July 2013 15: 49 New
      0
      Why so rude? For me ... on the hook, and they forgot that I was like that
    3. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 24 July 2013 16: 11 New
      +5
      Quote: Taurus
      I have always voted for GDP. And I will vote. Damned humpback.

      Russian President Vladimir Putin congratulated Mikhail Gorbachev, head of the International Public Fund for Social, Economic and Political Studies, on his 82nd birthday, the Kremlin’s press service said on Saturday.
      and the award of the highest order, he, too, was somehow not against

      Quote: Taurus
      Damned humpback. What did he do with the Slavic race.

      migrants, open borders, visa-free regime, Sagra, Kondopoga, Innocent, Pugachev,
    4. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 24 July 2013 17: 44 New
      +4
      Quote: Taurus
      Yeltsin was ashamed.

      always voted for GDP

      This is called "cognitive dissonance".

    5. Alez
      Alez 25 July 2013 11: 02 New
      0
      There are civilized methods of punishment, call for the delivery of some piece of iron, then close it under house arrest in a standard communal apartment without hot water with a toilet on the street, write him a regular pension. So that with this pension 70% is kept for services. Let the rest of life live as part of the population that it has led to poverty.
  • DEMENTIY
    DEMENTIY 24 July 2013 07: 20 New
    -5
    Quote: vladsolo56
    Glory to Putin !!!! cheers to Putin, we all pray for Putin !! Putin is the best in the world !! for Putin as for a stone wall !!! Well, who praises Putin even better? join in
  • Karabin
    Karabin 24 July 2013 07: 21 New
    -6
    Russians living in the USA sometimes grab their heads from the stupidity of American politicians.

    But for some reason they do not want to return to Russia, even if there is Wise Putin here.
    There was also a confrontation over Kosovo, which cost the West extremely expensive, perhaps the West never got anything so expensive in life. Putin simply passed the West through a fine grater and incinerated the western ambition.

    Serbs are standing in the hallway of the wiped and incinerated European Union, actually resigned to the loss of Kosovo.
    If someone thinks that the author worships Putin,

    Well no. Just licking.
    the empty treasury and the stinking crowd of some completely ugly people ... Millions and billions of embezzlements of all kinds of "Birch, Khodorkovsky and Gusinsky."

    we change the "Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky and Gusinsky" to "Serdyukovsky, Chubais, Skrynnikovsky" and the picture is not much different from the realities of 15 years ago.
    but you really believe the person who sees it all from the side.

    in the wrong hands always seems fatter.
    Putin really changes the brains of the West through the citizens of these states

    Yes, to hell with them, with Western brains. But how Putin with Livanov and Fursenko, through a moronic education system, is changing the brains of the growing Russian population, the author apparently does not know.
    1. DEMENTIY
      DEMENTIY 24 July 2013 09: 08 New
      +2
      Karabin

      And you wanted everything at once?

      Believe the view from the outside - not everything is started up at you (at the head of the state it is far from being - the site refuses to print expressions).

      Try at least UKRAINE (the president is a convicted gopnik, the policy is such that it is just right to remember the saying - "Better a terrible death than horror without end", etc.)
      1. egor 1712
        egor 1712 24 July 2013 10: 43 New
        16
        Who lives in Ukraine silently, but envies the Russians. Putin is the man of the word. Said done. Yanukovych is a political prostitute, either going to Europe or going to the customs union. He says one thing and does another. There is no army in the state; now the police are being discredited. Corruption has swept all state structures. That's where the ... well. Putin, however, sees the direction of his work. Words do not differ from deeds. For good, he needs to change the prime minister, remove Medvedev and put in a man like Shoigu. And the fact that he is stumbling the opposition is doing it right. These are people who carry a house in society, working out the money of Western offices. Look at Ukraine, where the “democratic” opposition won. We do not wish you this.
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 24 July 2013 11: 01 New
          -7
          Quote: egor 1712
          Putin is the man of the word. Said done.

          What did he do?
          1. d_trader
            d_trader 24 July 2013 11: 54 New
            +2
            Eyes develop
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 24 July 2013 17: 50 New
              -2
              Quote: d_trader
              Eyes develop

              You offer to upload boteks chtol? laughing
        2. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 24 July 2013 17: 49 New
          -2
          Quote: egor 1712
          Putin is the man of the word. Said done.

          no, son is fantastic


        3. Tverichanka
          Tverichanka 24 July 2013 23: 53 New
          0
          Quote: egor 1712
          . We do not wish you this.

          Thank you! We will fight together with all sorts of scum. And we will win.
  • regsSSSR
    regsSSSR 24 July 2013 07: 22 New
    +3
    today straight voe in the morning teeming with articles about Putin)) Putin really seems to have caught luck by the tail and straddled the wave of world success! there is a feeling that even the criticism that has been addressed to him lately from whoever it came from, as a result, all the same, it only turns out to be good for Putin himself! something like that !
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 24 July 2013 09: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: regressSSSR
      today straight voe in the morning teeming with articles about Putin)) Putin really seems to have caught luck by the tail and straddled the wave of world success! there is a feeling that even the criticism that has been addressed to him lately from whoever it came from, as a result, all the same, it only turns out to be good for Putin himself! something like that !

      This is how Russia was portrayed at the beginning of the 20th century, and apparently VVP managed to find "invisible threads" that would make it possible to make a puppet out of the West,while poorly managed ... but this is only the BEGINNING. More interesting events await us in the not so distant future.
      Clickable Image:
      1. hrych
        hrych 24 July 2013 10: 17 New
        +5
        Here, rather, the gas pipe is supplied to the dolls in the railway station and they are controlled by a screw, poorly controlled, but are blown out in the right direction.
  • valokordin
    valokordin 24 July 2013 07: 30 New
    +4
    Quote: Karabin
    Yes, to hell with them, with Western brains. But how Putin with Livanov and Fursenko, through a moronic education system, is changing the brains of the growing Russian population, the author apparently does not know.

    Probably not in the know, he probably himself passes the EGE every day, out of 10 options he chooses two.
  • regsSSSR
    regsSSSR 24 July 2013 07: 44 New
    +2
    Putin is changing the worldview of the world, Putin is really changing the brains of the West through the citizens of these states, who are already openly saying that we need someone like Putin. smile
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 24 July 2013 10: 17 New
      0
      Quote: regressSSSR
      Putin is changing the worldview of the world, Putin is really changing the brains of the West through the citizens of these states who are already openly saying that we need someone like Putin

      Today, Putin must again choose whether he is with the people or with the elite (bureaucracy and the oligarchy), with a majority or a minority. The future of Russia depends on this choice. What attracts him is that he is not afraid of anything or anyone. But he has already crossed that line, the 90s collapse and chaos. Now the main support of the people.
      Putin will lose, and all of Russia will lose. But what attracts him is that he is ready to fight and go to the end. In fulfilling his plans.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 July 2013 11: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: regressSSSR
      regsSSSR

      Hmm, a poster apparently Zyuganov painted lol
      1. regsSSSR
        regsSSSR 24 July 2013 22: 37 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: regressSSSR
        regsSSSR

        Hmm, a poster apparently Zyuganov painted lol


        not well, where I borrowed it, its author rather then it is not Zyuganov but a certain comrade with a rare Korean surname Kim Jong-un bully
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  • VadimSt
    VadimSt 24 July 2013 07: 47 New
    10
    Quote: DEMENTIY
    Spin it or not, and the man is real GDP!

    Because of this, Western politicians have their brains either leaking, or there is a "brain twist"!
    The GDP and the history of Russia will be erected as a monument even without those who constantly grumble at it, many here are promoting themselves as patriots, although they clearly pretend to be NPOs from them.
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  • KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 24 July 2013 07: 55 New
    13
    The era of the "naked king" (I mean EBN), as in a well-known fairy tale - behind! The state of shame and shame has passed when the whole Universe made fun of us and mocked us. And no matter what anyone says, I am starting to be proud of our country! And not only me ... the world already perceives us differently! They start to reckon with us, they listen to us! I am far from idealizing V. PUTIN, especially in matters of domestic policy, but in the international arena he raised the name of RUSSIA high! He's on the right track! To be honest, I do not see another politician in RUSSIA who, in such a short time, would have brought us out of the state of servility and servility to the West (as in the case of the "naked king" EBN), into the state of a proud sovereign. And maybe we would like more, but we need to be able to measure our desires with our capabilities (remember the toast collector, the movie Shurik). I am sure that we will not stop there ... for this we only need to save up a little bit of strength ... So let's separate the wheat from the chaff!
  • Taurus
    Taurus 24 July 2013 08: 01 New
    +1
    Quote: DEMENTIY
    Quote: vladsolo56
    Glory to Putin !!!! cheers to Putin, we all pray for Putin !! Putin is the best in the world !! for Putin as for a stone wall !!! Well, who praises Putin even better? join in

    And why this photo sluts and the entire empty bazaar? What is the point? Have you somehow been hooked by GDP? Is it somehow his fault that you cannot determine yourself? And do you understand a boy or a girl?
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 24 July 2013 09: 22 New
      +4
      Yes, calm down you, I did not hurt. why so inflamed. You like well ahead, and then the comment with the photo is not mine, we must learn to distinguish flies from cutlets. I have my photo on the avatar and I do not hide my face, unlike you.
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  • Suhov
    Suhov 24 July 2013 08: 09 New
    +7
    I propose to use a new unit of measure of authority to determine the rating of Western politicians: "one Putin".
    wassat
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 24 July 2013 08: 44 New
      +4
      For Western politicians, microPutin is more likely, or, for the very advanced, milePutin ... smile
  • 3030
    3030 24 July 2013 08: 16 New
    0
    So who is talking about my avatar! laughing
  • MG42
    MG42 24 July 2013 08: 17 New
    +3
    Today in Detroit, 83% of blacks, what will happen there with whites can only be imagined in a nightmare.

    Detroit is generally bent, because the automobile industry actually died there, and the city hall has nothing to pay on loans due to the massive outflow of the city’s population ..
    Chicago has not gone far, skirmishes are already taking place in the afternoon

    This is the result of the sale of weapons to everyone who is not lazy, lunatics are willing to take the opportunity to shoot at school or in kindergarten .. and about armed robberies of shops in the afternoon, this is a great tradition of the Wild West .. there’s no way to do this ..
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 24 July 2013 09: 23 New
      +7
      Quote: MG42
      I am paying loans because of the massive outflow of the city’s population ..

      Due to the massive outflow of the white population of Detroit.
      In the 80s, the West also sang the praises of Gorbachev (perestroika, glasnost, the great ,,, leader ,,), than all the finiteness-the collapse of the USSR.
      V.V. Putin is a great leader in Russia. I believe that Russia was lucky with the leader.
      I hope Putin will continue to extinguish the opposition so that Russia becomes a great world power.
      1. Poppy
        Poppy 24 July 2013 11: 56 New
        +7
        it’s been a sign for a long time: if in the West they’re scolded, then something is doing right
  • lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 24 July 2013 08: 37 New
    11
    Putin, of course, is not an ideal, and there are a lot of questions to his policy, especially his domestic one. But none of them really answered a question to Putin’s critics. Is there an alternative? At the moment. Lech Navalny? Well, do not tell my slippers! And this whole company Zhirik, Zyuganov, Mironov, who else is there? Yes, they already know all of them with giblets, and there’s nothing to expect from them except chatter. It’s time to drive them all from the Duma, not to let the Kremlin go. Yavlinsky? Thank you, no need, already taxied. I remember how, from all the cracks, cigarette butts were picked out, how he hit his chest with his heel, promising to build paradise in 500 days. For that mess in the interior of the country, the responsibility lies not only with the president, but also with all of us. and who buys them, not calves, who breaks the rules and gets drunk behind the wheel? Who brings the handout to the official, so that they would quickly solve his case? Or predada for a positive assessment? Putin? And so on on all issues. Well, on foreign policy, he is generally a flint, it’s not for nothing that the West howls, sprinkles poison, but can’t do anything, only every time it gets out of bed
  • Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 24 July 2013 08: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: KazaK Bo
    Is your Zhirinovsky better with PROKHOROV and MIRONOV?

    The fact of the matter is that now there is NO person who could replace Putin ... Zhirinovsky for years has already resigned himself to not being president, Prokhorov does not understand politics at all (see the debate with Zhirinovsky before the last presidential election - "our friends are the Americans and the EU, and the enemies are Iran and Syria"), Mironov is too soft for the president of such a country at such a time ... For some Iceland, he is still rolling ... Putin's rule is now frightening with the upcoming privatization ... wassat
  • Djubal
    Djubal 24 July 2013 08: 55 New
    0
    Quote: DEMENTIY
    Quote: vladsolo56
    Glory to Putin !!!! cheers to Putin, we all pray for Putin !! Putin is the best in the world !! for Putin as for a stone wall !!! Well, who praises Putin even better? join in

    such states only, sorry, fuck ...
    I hope no one is seriously considering a political marriage between GDP and Sarochka
  • Taurus
    Taurus 24 July 2013 09: 07 New
    +4
    Quote: Sukhov
    I propose to use a new unit of measure of authority to determine the rating of Western politicians: "one Putin".
    wassat

    It is unlikely that anyone pulls at least a unit
    1. Suhov
      Suhov 24 July 2013 14: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Taurus
      It is unlikely that anyone pulls at least a unit

      I agree.
      But, when presenting the measurement results, you can use the following prefixes:
      - milli
      - micro
      - nano
      - Etc.
      wassat
  • saha471
    saha471 24 July 2013 09: 11 New
    12
    Great things are seen at a distance. Our country is big. They destroyed it powerfully. Almost finished the case. And in all spheres. Even from the laws of physics, it turns out that such a colossus can not be turned and deployed quickly, like a dwarf country with a population of a couple of million. And here I see how some (there are a lot of them ..) reason, like the audience in the cinema. "And what about the main character? He ran 30 km with a load, interrupted a dozen monsters with a shovel, helped an old woman cross the road ..." And they say about him, "Why did you knock your tie on its side? It's not good ... come on, try. And drive away the flies !!! " Improvement within the country is not seen by either the blind or the stupid. Yes, not everything is like in the New Year's picture. But it became MUCH better !!! It is a fact. And than waiting for Putin to do everything, it would be better to leave the cinema and put their territory in order. Everyone around him. Themselves. At the same time, you can grumble that they say that the citizens, who have become completely impoverished, have bought MACHINES, there is nowhere to go !!! And then scratch your tongue, do not roll bags!
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 25 July 2013 00: 07 New
      0
      Quote: saha471
      order. Everyone around you. Themselves.

      I will illustrate it again ... We have a playground, well, there are all kinds of swings, slides .... So the girls with children playing there, collected money (1300 in total) bought different colors and painted and painted everything in one day. Yes, it’s so cool! Everything has become so funny, bright, beautiful! Well, smart women! They didn’t ask anyone, for ten years they didn’t write tears to the city hall, but they did it every time. And it turned out a hundred each. It's all nonsense, right? Nobody impoverished. And the platform, here it is in all its glory!
  • fzr1000
    fzr1000 24 July 2013 09: 20 New
    +7
    Putin needs to conduct domestic politics as foreign, then he really will be a good president, but for now, imbalance.
  • Taurus
    Taurus 24 July 2013 09: 31 New
    +1
    I declare the measures not a legitimate cattle, a pack of killers and, accordingly, we humans are not obliged to apply human laws to them
  • APASUS
    APASUS 24 July 2013 09: 44 New
    +1
    American politics is increasingly dominated by ambition and the denial that America is no longer the first and the world is more multifaceted.
    And the political establishment is formed by people who are just ossified conservatives, accustomed to thinking by the force of arms.
  • Far East
    Far East 24 July 2013 09: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: vladsolo56
    they are glad that they give out their salaries and even do not delay their pensions. We are glad that the oligarchs are richer and richer in our country, and officials as they stole and steal. We are glad that a simple person is not protected in our country, but bandits and scammers of various stripes are protected by law. And we should be glad that it’s not getting worse, thanks to the party of my beloved and her secretary general, the deepest bow

    Dear, I agree with you 100%
  • dimon-media
    dimon-media 24 July 2013 10: 07 New
    +2
    To the author plus. Everything about the case, written concisely. I can’t add or remove anything from the article. Indeed, if any other country were to replace Russia in the dashing nineties, it would take more than a dozen years to recover and grow to the current level of Russia. Putin did this in two of his presidential terms.
  • explorer
    explorer 24 July 2013 10: 11 New
    -5
    The site is teeming with loyal patriots. hi
    And where three times cheers !!! the one who is currently the Supreme Commander of the RF Armed Forces. winked
  • borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 24 July 2013 10: 13 New
    +9
    from the Don.
    For foreign policy of GDP with two hands and feet: FOR:! And yet, I completely disagree with those who speak of improving life within the country. Improving life, in many respects, is contrary to government policy. Housing and communal services, pension reform, education, total corruption, interethnic relations, uncontrolled migration - the government is responsible for this! And who appoints him? The president! So he is responsible for what is happening in the country. And who is in the government? Friends of childhood, from studies, that is .-: locksmiths , doctors, pharmacists, furniture makers:! What the hell is that ???
  • Galinanp
    Galinanp 24 July 2013 10: 15 New
    +7
    Putin's domestic administration is manual. In the face of the government, the bulk of governors, officials, he has no assistants, moreover, open sabotage is being conducted. Remember his last showdown with ministers in the Far East, where he openly raises the question: "When will you start working?" Remove, fire, plant? Then it is necessary to plant practically the entire staff of officials headed by ministers. But at the moment, the foreign political situation does not allow doing this. Putin will have a titanic work to dismantle the entire system of government created and established by the Anglo-Saxons in the 90s, the starting point will be the abolition of the constitution drawn up in the State Department and planted in the same 90s, and the adoption of a new Constitution through a popular referendum. There is more work inside the state than on the foreign political front. And then some part of the people wishes that they would have to rearrange their legs. The initiative in the action of healthy transformations in the country must come both from the top and from the bottom, then there will be an effect in time.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 24 July 2013 18: 06 New
      0
      Quote: GalinaNP
      the starting point will be the abolition of the constitution drawn up in the State Department and enforced in the same 90s, and the adoption of the new Constitution through a popular referendum.

      Please answer - do you have CONFIRMED information that the Constitution was drawn up by the State Department and in the interests of the State Department?

      Please list those articles that you are not satisfied with in the current Constitution and explain why you are not happy.
  • Luger
    Luger 24 July 2013 10: 24 New
    +2
    The article is, of course, of a somewhat high laudatory degree, well, forgive the author for this, however, for today I like our foreign policy, I like that we do not look like idiots in the face of our first leaders (Gorbachev, Yeltsin) for the world community, I like that they listen to our country in the person of our First Person, I like that there are some positive changes inside the country too, but I don’t like that these changes are not very noticeable, and sometimes not very useful, I don’t like that one some people hold stupid donkeys another part of people in our country, but in principle I agree with the article ...
  • slvevg
    slvevg 24 July 2013 10: 40 New
    +3
    It has been said a lot and to the point, but in the article, 21 times Putin, in the last paragraph, 5 times, so that he will gain a foothold in the brain ... wassat
  • radio operator
    radio operator 24 July 2013 10: 48 New
    0
    Recently, in a New York restaurant, a Greek waiter, by chance, saw a silver cross on a silver chain and asked what branch of Christianity this cross was. Having learned that the owner of the cross belongs to Russian Orthodoxy, but he lived in one of the republics, the Greek declared that you are not Russian and say to everyone that you are Russian! It is very cool! Your president is like armor, about his military superiority of any country will break like a watermelon against a wall. I am happy that the Russians have the same faith with the Greeks.

    This is also a good example against the background of Western Christianophobia - the fruit of tolerance.
  • za VDV
    za VDV 24 July 2013 10: 53 New
    +2
    Putin is the only president who has his own head and acts as he sees fit, for that I respect him ...
  • Nayhas
    Nayhas 24 July 2013 11: 01 New
    -12
    Today is what, the day of licking Putin's sphincter? Languages ​​flicker!
  • Taurus
    Taurus 24 July 2013 11: 01 New
    0
    Quote: explorer
    The site is teeming with loyal patriots. hi
    And where three times cheers !!! the one who is currently the Supreme Commander of the RF Armed Forces. winked

    Suppose so what? Do you guys know where the trigger is on the machine? Did you make that thread good, whoever? Defeat the enemy? Saved a life? Do you even live on? What is the point of your barren existence? You just do not need a woodpecker and it infuriates you. But none of us can help you in your misfortune because of the fact that nobody needs you.
    1. explorer
      explorer 24 July 2013 13: 19 New
      +5
      who will say that I’m a girl, let him throw my first stone and I did not give YOU a reason to move on to insults.
  • Fregate
    Fregate 24 July 2013 11: 10 New
    0
    What was she shouting there? "Rushen, com back"? Where is the backing? To Alaska? laughing
  • Conepatus
    Conepatus 24 July 2013 11: 12 New
    +3
    But about Kosovo, I did not understand. Where Putin grind the West there, -hz. Maybe someone will tell you, otherwise he forgot.
  • JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 24 July 2013 11: 12 New
    +3
    It is enough to recall what happened to the Country 15 years ago, that would be yes, to say thanks to Putin for his work.
    It really benefits the country.
    1. Fregate
      Fregate 24 July 2013 11: 39 New
      0
      Pfft .. Thanks for what, sorry? For the fact that he is not "6" American, but really works for the country? So there is nothing super-natural in this. Yes, the result of his work is generally positive. But any president (who respects himself and citizens) must work for the good of his country and develop it. And then, for which he really would like to thank him, I think, is still ahead.
      ZY: I do not want and will not compare GDP with EBN, since the 2nd worked against the country.
    2. wax
      wax 24 July 2013 12: 29 New
      0
      And where was the country you can see here
      http://www.situation.ru/app/rs/books/whitebook/whitebook_content.htm
      Impressive? In 1998, the question was about the death of Russia forever.
    3. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 24 July 2013 18: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      It is enough to recall what happened to the Country 15 years ago, that would be yes, to say thanks to Putin for his work.

      Why do you compare with 98th?
    4. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 25 July 2013 00: 17 New
      0
      Duc ... this ... sclerosis ... in the last stage ....
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 25 July 2013 00: 31 New
        +2
        Quote: Tverichanka
        Duc ... this ... sclerosis ... in the last stage ....

        This is not an answer.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 25 July 2013 13: 21 New
          0
          Quote: Yarosvet
          This is not an answer.

          Really
          Quote: Tverichanka
          Duc ... this ... sclerosis ... in the last stage ....

          this is not the answer, this is the promise ...
          Quote: Yarosvet
          Why do you compare with 98th?

          What year do you propose to compare, since 1913, how was it fashionable at the time?
          hi
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 25 July 2013 15: 29 New
            0
            Quote: Cynic
            What year do you propose to compare, since 1913, how was it fashionable at the time?

            Zinnik, you are a famous verbiage, almost never speaking specifically.

            Answer - why with the 98th, I will answer - why it does not make sense.
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 25 July 2013 18: 38 New
              0
              Quote: Yarosvet
              Answer - why with the 98th, I will answer - why it does not make sense.

              Hmm and you blame me after this verbiage?
              Although
              Quote: Yarosvet
              You are a famous verbiage

              sounds nice.
              In relation to myself, I would call 2002 based on my own life circumstances, which I’m not going to advertise.
              Yes about
              Quote: Yarosvet
              Zinnik

              Respected Nick Yarosvet What is your reincarnation?
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 25 July 2013 19: 02 New
                0
                Quote: Cynic
                What is your reincarnation?
                You got it right.

                Now on the topic: a comparison with the 90s is a banal substitution of concepts. When someone says the 90s, everyone remembers the mess of the early 90s and the crisis of the 98th. But the difference between the beginning of the 90s and the second half of the 99th is huge, and attributing the improvements that occurred to the end of the 99th to Putin is just a substitute for concepts.

                EBN was president for 8 years, therefore, if you compare the results of his reign with the results of Putin's reign, you need to compare the second half of the 91st with the first half of 2000 (the conditions in which the country is at the beginning of the reign), and the second half of the 99th with the first half 2008 (results of the reign).
                1. Cynic
                  Cynic 25 July 2013 20: 21 New
                  0
                  Quote: Yarosvet
                  You got it right.

                  drinks
                  Quote: Yarosvet
                  attributing the improvements that occurred towards the end of '99 to Putin is precisely a substitute for concepts.

                  Mmm
                  You do not find that everyone here is about his own?
                  Someone cabbage soup liquid, someone small beads

                  You are about the highlands, and people are about your personal.
                  “One should not multiply things unnecessarily”
                  Overall
                  “Be simpler and people will reach for you!”
                  Something on quotes struck me today, excuse me.
                  hi
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 25 July 2013 21: 00 New
                    0
                    Quote: Cynic
                    You do not find that everyone here is about his own?
                    No - it was about the country as a whole, but it was suggested to recall the state of Russia 15 years ago.

                    Something on quotes struck me today, excuse me.
                    Happens hi
                    1. Cynic
                      Cynic 26 July 2013 10: 59 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Yarosvet
                      No - we are talking about the country as a whole,

                      On your part, but not on the side of your opponents, is it?
                      Here, interestingly, the methodology for assessing the state of our state _ From the general to the personal (since everything is not in order in the state it cannot be in the personal order) and from the personal to the general (since everything is in order in me, then everything is in the state fine ) .
                      In my opinion it is not comparable. At least here, not so successful people do not communicate.
                      After reading your last posts above, I noted that you think exactly that. But everyone draws conclusions for himself.
                      For example
                      the glass is half empty or half full belay
                      or
                      the glass is half full or half empty fellow
                      It seems about one thing, but in completely different ways!
                      I think enough of this.
                      hi
  • tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 24 July 2013 11: 28 New
    +2
    Of all the Leaders from the time of Khrushchov, the GDP is perhaps the most adequate, and the efficiency from it is higher than the others, the article is Plus for Positive, but for me it’s still too sweet about Uncle Vova, if he could still choose a team from the same as it went would be faster, and except for shoigu some personnel disasters.
  • kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 24 July 2013 11: 34 New
    0
    In fact, in Russia it is necessary to revive the post of Chancellor (the last was Prince Gorchakov). This is exactly the position for VV In domestic politics, a complete failure. I don’t know what to do, therefore, and not the presenter or the governor. On the one hand, a change of elites is necessary, but it is even scary to imagine this process. In order for the elites to change, they must at least be. A gang of mediocrity and thieves that in one camp that in another can not be called the elite. God forbid us to have an independent court today, then no one will be sitting among the villains. The only factor in keeping hold of all the ghouls who are not afraid of anyone today is V.V. The only one who is really afraid is him. Karaulov somehow wondered how so many corruption cases were happening and still not be afraid. And why are they afraid of Kamuto? There is no Kamuto team. The main thing is to do everything so as not to bring problems and there will be no team. And if there is an independent court, then all the teams do not give a shit and is not venerable or the veno will decide the amount. Corruption, God forbid, defeat the country zvezdo. Not long ago there was a comprehensive audit so I tell their senior and what are you checking here the door opened saw we are working to plant all of them all. I myself do not feel like an engineer at work, but somehow Ostap Bender. My wife arrived at a small children's clothing store to check the consumer goods supervision. The wife says look at the Internet rules for the sale of children's clothing. I say leave me alone. The consultant of 2430 regulatory documents got me open, how to do all of them; it’s necessary to close them, and here our great assistant corruption comes to the rescue. In general, you don’t know what to do not belong to the people who leave BUT THE QUESTION OF QUESTIONS WHO WILL COME.
    1. Max otto
      Max otto 24 July 2013 12: 50 New
      0
      Or maybe change the prime minister to really work for the good of Russia? No, not easier?
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 26 July 2013 11: 27 New
      0
      Quote: kapitan281271
      inspection of consumer protection came.

      They now only come by statements, they crossed the road.
      Quote: kapitan281271
      2430 regulatory documents

      There are five fundamental pieces, after the abolition of compulsory certification in general all these checks are up to ...
      Read the rules of trade, everything is there. By the way, this KGA must be mandatory. Only for the lack of her presence, a fine.
      Swam, we know.
      In general, came with a check _ relax and have fun .
      The administrative code is not criminal.
      Are you afraid of a fine of 5 rubles? Then for three years you can sleep peacefully, again if someone does not write a statement on you.
      And so, how to feed on constantly have not decided.
      hi
  • Naval
    Naval 24 July 2013 11: 37 New
    +3
    Quote: explorer
    The site is teeming with loyal patriots. hi
    And where three times cheers !!! the one who is currently the Supreme Commander of the RF Armed Forces. winked

    So what? And we are proud of it, and we know the service, and we have the Honor, and defended the Homeland and are ready to defend it. And for the pacifists, there are, I think, special sites.
  • runway
    runway 24 July 2013 11: 41 New
    +1
    It’s a mistake to draw conclusions on an article in the Western press about whether Putin is a good or bad president. Recall that the Western press wrote about Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi. How Western politicians kissed them (they even allowed to throw tents in the territories of historical residences!) And how it all ended ...
    I agree with those participants in the discussion who believe that the inhabitants of Russia themselves must make their choice.
    I do not want to repeat everything that has already been said about corruption, the demographic crisis, the collapse of the economy, the army, education, medicine ... Only for one, separately taken, it deserves the highest measure of punishment. This is regarding his business qualities.
    I want to draw attention to some personal character traits of this person:
    1. Does he tell the truth or is he lying?
    2. Is he fair and honest with others?
    3. What is most important for him is personal enrichment or concern for the people over whom he was appointed by chance and from the day.
    Yes, people are not without flaws. But a person with such data should not represent our country!
    I believe that in order to conclude about it, it did not have to wait twenty years.
  • Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 24 July 2013 12: 06 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    It seems to me that housing and utilities tariffs will grow forever

    And regardless of who will be in charge of the state. As for the "brainwashing" to the West, it may be easier to "chop the little head" of a new one, but it will "grow" in mind closer to us.
  • B_KypTke
    B_KypTke 24 July 2013 12: 20 New
    +5
    Well, they praised Volodenka here and this way and that, and it seems to be deserved.
    But here I will not be so inclined to epithets and that’s why one small example
    cunning and worst of all cunning how to get yours together:
    I myself am a disabled person of group I, well, it just so happened to be injured in 1999 (spinal fracture). So, after all the operations of 8 pieces, I was then sent to a sanatorium in the Crimea of ​​Saki, sent for free and also gave a second ticket for a helping person. In Crimea, I really liked the military sanatorium for former Afghans, very qualified personnel generally helped a lot.
    So at the turn of the century Volodenka came to us all so enchanting, well, I think the Lord sent us a decisive housekeeper of the Russian land. And indeed, as a crisis manager, he has no equal. So here is an example of cunningness:
    In 2005, a special operation "Monetization of Benefits" was carried out, according to which my right to free sanatorium treatment turned into 500 rubles a month THEN !! now the same number in the yard in 2013. That is, there is inflation, and natural benefits that were in the form of specific vouchers not subject to inflation and which in 2005 turned into 500 rubles a month are just 500 rubles / mXNUMX.
    And the price of a ticket in 2005 was 45 000 rub and now 150 000 rub.
    Here is a simple example of a leader’s cunning. And this is just one example from the life of a simple Russian disabled person 1g. So now I don’t even know whether to praise Volodenka or not ... because for.
    1. kris
      kris 24 July 2013 12: 47 New
      +4
      Quote: B_KypTke
      Well, they praised Volodenka here and this way and that, and it seems to be deserved.
      But here I will not be so inclined to epithets and that’s why one small example
      cunning and worst of all cunning how to get yours together:

      to the very point!
      adequate people evaluate Putin's work in the surrounding reality.
      one can understand the military and the garbage praising him with which he raised his salary.
      but even among them there are enough people who understand reality.
      I recently spoke with the head of the military training center.
      He told all the delights of military service for applicants.
      He spoke no worse than a seasoned sales manager.
      Well-delivered speech, smile, compelling arguments.
      He praised Putin, Shoigu, scolded Serdyukov.
      I asked him a question: "Do you think Putin knew nothing about the Stouretkin case?"
      The smile was gone. The look faded. And he answered in the standard way: "Let's not talk about politics!"
      ps the officer was in the rank - colonel of the VVKO.
  • Foooxxxxx
    Foooxxxxx 24 July 2013 12: 26 New
    -7
    It seems to those who live in Russia that it may or may not, that everything may happen very slowly, but you really believe the person who sees it from the outside. When you find yourself in a city where you haven’t been there for only a year, you see something new appearing here or there, or the old one has been repaired.


    This is certainly said, believe me, I myself see it from the outside) And in general, the article is excellent!
  • Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 24 July 2013 12: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: explorer
    The site is teeming with loyal patriots.

    So after all, the site is called: "Voennoe Obozreniye", and ..., and acting in / employees, and those who are in the reserve, and those liable for military service are good. Youth is also interested in the military topic, i.e. Russia's security is good news! hi