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Obama will destroy the United States just as Gorbachev ruined the USSR

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Obama will destroy the United States just as Gorbachev ruined the USSRIt seems that Ben Bernanke, the head of the Fed, is thoroughly confused in the forecasts about the American economy. On July 17, he not only pleased the American public, but at the same time a certain part of the world community with various pleasant prospects for the US economy, but also scared the congressmen with the uncertainty about the asset buying program. He said that there was no planned buyout rate, but he immediately noticed that the plan could change in one direction or another, depending on the economic outlook. Analysts have brains exploded: what is Mr. Bernanke trying to tell? Have a plan or not? Is there a course or no course? As for economic forecasts, they are issued ... Ben Bernanke.


How is 18 July correspondent ITAR-TASS Andrey Bekrenev, according to Bernanke, the Fed currently adheres to the accepted course, according to which it is planned to complete the asset buying program by the middle of 2014. “Our asset buying program depends on the economic and financial situation and does not comply with any pre-planned course,” Bernanke said at a hearing in the Financial Services Committee of the US House of Representatives.

As Maria Trifonova writes (Utro.ru), Ben Bernanke agitated the world community, stating that the Fed could begin to curtail the asset buying program in 2013, if the situation in the economy contributes to that. But the original plan may undergo changes “both in one and in the other direction” depending on changes in the economic outlook.

It seems that Ben himself does not know what to do: stop the program of "quantitative easing" (QE), or continue.

The global economic community is annoyed by the Fed ’s rush, notes M. Trifonov. So much so that the question of the predictability of the monetary policy of the countries issuing reserve currencies can be raised in Moscow at a meeting of finance ministers and central bankers G20. This was said by the Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation Anton Siluanov.

American vacillation, we add, is characteristic not only for the economy of the world “hegemon”, but also for its policy. The revelations of Manning and Snowden alone are worth something. But Obama is just as stagnant and stubborn as Bernanke. It would seem that the economic and industrial crisis, when the city of Detroit has almost reached bankruptcy, is the time to curtail the programs of the NSA and other special agencies. But no. The NSA will “listen” further.

A US court extended the NSA right to regularly collect data on phone calls from US citizens. The term of the previous permit, existing under the Foreign Intelligence Observation Act, expired last Friday. As transmits "RT", with a request to extend permission for data collection to the court asked the administration of Barack Obama.

Some analysts who specialize in futurological forecasts about the post-global world believe that the United States has amassed great potential for destabilization. This is written by George Derlugyan, a professor of sociology at New York University, a participant in the Post-Globalization initiative. His article is published in a journal. "Expert". According to the professor, what is happening today in the United States indicates a large accumulated potential for unexpected destabilization.

Derlugyan, a historical sociologist, is interested in the answer to the question “why?” If we proceed from this question, then the main thing in Snowden’s revelations is not at all the scale of surveillance, but “fabulous allocations for this hopeless thing in principle”.

“The amount of data collected is inversely proportional to the ability to comprehend them - remember the East German Stasi with its bags of unread eavesdropping materials. But if even a young contract soldier, Snowden, could afford a house in Hawaii, what echelons of more serious people should be perfectly fed from the US counterterrorism budget? ”


Here, the scientist also adds "the financial sector that has been bought out from himself," as well as the "fantastically equipped army, which was unable to restore the expected order in Iraq and Afghanistan."

At the same time, the federal budget is being cut down in the United States on other items, from education and science to the maintenance of national parks.

As the professor recalls, historical experience shows that "imperial systems on the verge of overvoltage are subject to rapid self-destruction." As examples, the scientist cites Ancient Rome and the Soviet Union. The culprits of the collapse of state systems are not openly attacking armies and not internal dissidents.

“Decay comes so suddenly, precisely because it is produced by those who do not themselves expect such consequences of their actions. For example, the most loyal Armenians of Russia who asked only for the transfer of Karabakh from one Soviet republic to another, or foremen of perestroika who sincerely believed in the renewal of the Soviet system. ”


Today, the recession amid dead-end wars has put the United States in roughly the position of the USSR at the start of the 1980s. In addition, as Derlugyan notes, the political elite in the United States is divided into irreconcilable factions who don’t want to negotiate.

The collapse of the USSR was possible largely because it was considered impossible, the scientist writes. That is why the policy of "perestroika" and behaved recklessly.

Indeed, let us add, Obama and Gorbachev in their policies are very similar in many respects. Mikhail Sergeyevich advocated the reduction of nuclear arsenals - this is what Barack Obama is talking about. The Communist Secretary General advocated for the friendship of peoples - Obama, who proclaimed a “reset” between the US and Russia and sent Mr. McFaul to Moscow, constantly repeats the same. The General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee in the 1986 year at the XXVII Congress proposed the country of developed socialism to “accelerate” strategically, which very soon caused hidden inflation, and the inhabitant of the Oval Office approved the initiative of Ben Bernanke on accelerated inflation of the economy with green paper-dollars in crisis time, the consequences of which still ahead. Mikhail Sergeevich, looking at America, spoke of democratization and glasnost - Barack Obama tirelessly repeats freedom of speech and calls the United States "a ray of hope." Gorbachev loved to give speeches, because of which the “Time” program on the first channel of the TV was stretched for an extra hour, - Obama, too, was ready to speak, and the American budget contains a special speechwriter for him - Cody Kinana (whose predecessor, by the way, left to work as a scriptwriter in Hollywood). Gorbachev withdrew troops from Afghanistan in 1989 — Obama will lead them from there to 2014. Gorbachev was given the Nobel Peace Prize in 1990, and the current American president received the same in 2009. The General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, the first and only president of the USSR, has destroyed the state socialist system. Obama, quite possibly, is on the verge of the collapse of the capitalist system.

American broadcaster Bob Schiffer says:

“America succeeded most of all when she set an example to others. During the Cold War, we built the largest arsenal weapons all over the world, and this weapon kept the Soviet Union at bay. But the war was won not by a weapon, but by the example that we served. When the people on the other side of the iron curtain finally managed to look behind it, they saw that our system was providing a better standard of living, and soon the wall collapsed. These people did not want rockets and bombs - they needed dishwashers and the best schools. Unlike ours, the communist system could not provide them with all of this. They needed an American model of life. ”


Then Schiffer is transferred now:

“But when I look at the growing list of what Washington was screwed up with — immigration reform, assistance to farmers, student loans, budget deficit reduction, the tax system, regardless of its fairness or injustice, is so complex that no one can understand it; a health plan that even the ministry that produced this very plan cannot implement; the air force, a third of whose combat squadrons are standing idle, since Congress cannot find a way to finance them, it becomes interesting to me: who will want to imitate this example? ”


It seems, let us add, the American state is bogged down in its own inability to be a state. At the same time, the main actors in the White House continue to believe that their management is effective, because it simply cannot be otherwise. The US government machine is moving like an inertial toy, but Obama, like Fukuyama as a sociologist, continues to believe that the model of American democracy is something like a perpetual motion machine that is constantly working, the model of which the whole backward planet is ready to "rebuild".

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  1. Refund_SSSR
    Refund_SSSR 23 July 2013 07: 04 New
    82
    Now when the United States of America (USA) will turn into the Commonwealth of Independent States (SSS), then - we can say that they got what they deserved.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 23 July 2013 07: 18 New
      34
      Quote: Oleg Chuvakin
      It seems we add from ourselves that the American state is bogged down in its own inability to be a state.
      Oleg, hi ! Article plus definitely! At one time, American forecaster Dennion Brinkley said: “Keep an eye on the Soviet Union. What will happen to the Russians awaits the whole world. What is happening in Russia is the basis of what will happen to the economic freedom of the world. ”
      1. Refund_SSSR
        Refund_SSSR 23 July 2013 07: 24 New
        27
        To paraphrase a satirist:
        "The Americans are so stupid that proclaiming the Reboot, began Perestroika ... mixed up complex words on the" P "
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 23 July 2013 07: 36 New
          11
          Under Obama, the United States is losing ground is a fact.
          1. rolik
            rolik 23 July 2013 12: 56 New
            +4
            Quote: xetai9977
            With Obama, the United States is losing ground is a fact

            They gave us an order for our workshop yesterday for signature. Banned travel on vacation in the United States, Israel, Egypt. But why did they forget Turechin ???
          2. Sirocco
            Sirocco 23 July 2013 13: 10 New
            +9
            Quote: xetai9977
            Under Obama, the United States is losing ground is a fact.

            Put at least some president, there will be no change. The President of the United States is a puppet, not an independent unit of power. That is to say a beautiful postcard. I don’t want to repeat myself, but everyone knows the names of those who make politics in the USA.
            1. Vovka levka
              Vovka levka 23 July 2013 13: 30 New
              +6
              Quote: Sirocco
              Quote: xetai9977
              Under Obama, the United States is losing ground is a fact.

              Put at least some president, there will be no change. The President of the United States is a puppet, not an independent unit of power. That is to say a beautiful postcard. I don’t want to repeat myself, but everyone knows the names of those who make politics in the USA.

              That fact, that fact.
            2. Fire
              Fire 24 July 2013 08: 58 New
              +1
              Not only in the usa ...
          3. za VDV
            za VDV 23 July 2013 19: 00 New
            +2
            Right! Obama is a Negro. And the Negroes from Pokonvek were white slaves, but here they were entrusted with power. And the country is not a hacienda! Another fact is that Obama is just a fake puppet of smart people for whom the collapse of the United States is beneficial from all sides.
        2. Asgard
          Asgard 23 July 2013 09: 08 New
          -6
          Yes, with education there is not very ...
          the button was called PEREGRUZKA
          Overload


          however, Gorbachev, starting perestroika, did not think about betrayal
          He was led by "puppeteers"
          But He Himself could not figure out anything

          triplets

          Unfortunately, happily, "puppets" are everywhere, presidents, PRImerii (those are generally clowns))), in their countries what happens is IMMINENTLY leading to the collapse of existing relations.

          After all, the "exercises" are similar to the "DEMONstration"))) in order to show that we still have troops and they can move, the Minister of Defense and the Chief of Staff in the field uniform were hanged as roosters all sorts of cute little things (not according to the charter) but at the whim of a fashion designer))))
          (Shoigu still had to fasten the Masonic order))))
          This is not serious ... THIS IS A PERFORMANCE.
          BAD....
          And for a ticket for it - we pay our LIFE ...
          for the headlessness of leadership.
          They do not control (They play their roles)))
          1. INTER
            INTER 23 July 2013 09: 39 New
            29
            Quote: Asgard
            and with education there is not very ...
            the button was called PEREGRUZKA

            They say that they don’t give a gift, but we will give and wish the same as we wished))) they say: “We can’t understand Russia with our minds” let them wonder why. But there is one problem, it would be necessary to find this very button.
          2. KazaK Bo
            KazaK Bo 23 July 2013 19: 04 New
            +6
            Quote: Asgard
            Yes, with education there is not very ... the button was called PEREGRUZKA

            Do you seriously think that such an inscription is accidental and that there are no experts on the Russian language in the US State Department?
            And their education system (as in our country) is “correct” from the point of view of the ruling class. Believe me, in the USA (and in RUSSIA too) very, very decent knowledge is given for those WHO NEED - FOR ELITE CHILDREN, who should replace the current managerial staff. These are not numerous educational institutions, it’s very problematic to get into them even the offspring of a businessman of average hand.
            For others, the vast majority of children in the country, such knowledge is not required! Remember Chadsky ... his words ABOUT THE MOUNTAIN FROM MIND. So why would the ruling big capital now dig a hole for itself, create "grief" ... therefore there is no proper level of knowledge provision to a growing generation of broad sections of the population.
            1. Alexholzman
              Alexholzman 29 July 2013 13: 24 New
              0
              Of course, a population with a mosaic education can be driven into the head with anything, because you don’t study at school to analyze it!
              Therefore, for 20 years, our liberals have been yelling about the “bad” Soviet education — it is also classical — it teaches us to think and analyze, draw conclusions!
          3. regsSSSR
            regsSSSR 23 July 2013 23: 45 New
            +2
            Asgard


            Sorry to get in! I’m not there in that photograph laid out by Asgard (where is Putin’s puck and a couple of commanders) at the puck next to the Marshal’s star on the puck, is that what? that is the same cockard with a star and a sickle and a hammer? belay or am I confusing something? in the same place it seems like the eagle should be dyuhglav or I somehow misunderstand request
        3. Whale
          Whale 23 July 2013 09: 17 New
          -4
          and yet not so stupid that our politicians put their wages on their salaries, destroyed our industry, put the whole country on a buck and launched a green all-terrain vehicle through Vienna
          well, stupid
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 23 July 2013 13: 15 New
            +4
            Quote: Whale
            put the whole country on a buck and launched a green all-terrain vehicle through Vienna

            On which from the sale of oil we rearm the army and raise the country, well, not exactly smart laughing
        4. Arthur 775
          Arthur 775 23 July 2013 22: 02 New
          +4
          When my youngest son saw a drawing at the beginning of the article, Humpbacked and Obamka, he said, the old uncle is teaching to read Tatjika. Well, they laughed heartily. The truth speaks with the mouth of a baby!
        5. Fire
          Fire 24 July 2013 08: 56 New
          +1
          When the US Secretary of State H. Clinton announced the "reset" of relations between the United States and Russia, she was given a symbolic RED button with the word "overload" instead of "Overload" ... at least they thought of looking into the English-Russian dictionary ...
      2. Trailer
        Trailer 23 July 2013 07: 51 New
        +3
        It's nice that the author was partly inspired by this topic)))

        http://www.yaplakal.com/forum3/topic617227.html?hl=
      3. Mart
        23 July 2013 08: 12 New
        +6
        Quote: Tersky
        Oleg, hi! Article plus definitely!


        Thanks, buddy Victor! hi
      4. Interface
        Interface 23 July 2013 22: 05 New
        0
        “America was most successful when it set an example for others. During the Cold War, we built the largest arsenal of weapons in the whole world, and these weapons kept the Soviet Union at bay.


        And this oligophrenic (uncensored laughing ), doesn’t confuse anything?
    2. an-sar
      an-sar 23 July 2013 08: 00 New
      17
      Barack Obramych-RETURN TO THE AMERICAN INDIANS !!!!
      1. INTER
        INTER 23 July 2013 08: 14 New
        17
        Quote: an-sar
        Barack Obramych-RETURN TO THE AMERICAN INDIANS !!!!

        PART OF RUSSIA (Alaska))))))))))) smile
        1. Denis
          Denis 23 July 2013 08: 30 New
          16
          Quote: INTER
          PART OF RUSSIA (Alaska
          We’ll start to pour in, as well as sold.
          1. waisson
            waisson 23 July 2013 08: 45 New
            +2
            I'm afraid we won’t have time, we think the Chinese will buy in advance
            1. Denis
              Denis 23 July 2013 12: 23 New
              +6
              Quote: waisson
              I'm afraid we won’t have time, we think the Chinese will buy in advance
              It is necessary to prepare, i.e. beak niht klats-klats
          2. INTER
            INTER 23 July 2013 09: 01 New
            +9
            Quote: Denis
            We’ll start to pour in, as well as sold.

            Good idea) +++++ for 11 million rubles in gold / 7,2 million dollars / and after the transfer to declare that the ship sank along the way)))
          3. Lantau
            Lantau 23 July 2013 09: 10 New
            +9
            Why buy? So take wink
          4. za VDV
            za VDV 23 July 2013 19: 05 New
            0
            Yes, it’s a pity that there is already no as much gold as there was before ....
          5. Fire
            Fire 24 July 2013 10: 09 New
            +1
            Is there any sense in this? Well, except that the "poplar" and "Iskander" to place there ... And the resources of the Americans almost all pulled.
        2. Cynic
          Cynic 23 July 2013 11: 48 New
          +4
          Quote: INTER
          PART OF RUSSIA (Alaska)

          Not understood !
          And California and Hawaii?
          In Hawaii, Edik's cottage, who did not understand.
        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 23 July 2013 13: 16 New
          +4
          Quote: INTER

          PART OF RUSSIA (Alaska))))))

          California, by the way, also belonged to Russia, let's not forget that.
          1. sprut
            sprut 23 July 2013 20: 29 New
            +1
            Well, not really California, rather Fort Ross with surrounding territories (by the way, it is still preserved there by the way). But still nice.
      2. Denis
        Denis 23 July 2013 08: 28 New
        +3
        Quote: an-sar
        Barack Obramych-RETURN TO THE AMERICAN INDIANS !!!!
        And climb onto the palm tree again? Will not want
        1. za VDV
          za VDV 23 July 2013 19: 08 New
          0
          Then let the prescribed activity-Slave return to his fate
      3. za VDV
        za VDV 23 July 2013 19: 03 New
        +1
        Obramych probably has revenge on a racial motive! - "White smokes - negro plows" And he probably wants to make a turn))))
      4. X.Aegis
        X.Aegis 26 July 2013 19: 50 New
        0
        Bring Russia back to the Varangians.
    3. strange and pretty meaningless
      strange and pretty meaningless 23 July 2013 09: 59 New
      17
      Obamych, do IT! Finish the USA! Avenge your ancestors!
    4. Canep
      Canep 23 July 2013 10: 21 New
      +7
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      Now when the United States of America (USA) will turn into the Commonwealth of Independent States (SSS), then - we can say that they got what they deserved.

      We are waiting for the American GKChP or something similar.
      1. INTER
        INTER 23 July 2013 11: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Canep
        We are waiting for the American GKChP or something similar.

        And we will take out everything that we have taken to them, besides with% mi))))
      2. Sirocco
        Sirocco 23 July 2013 13: 16 New
        +3
        Quote: Canep
        We are waiting for the American GKChP or something similar.

        I wish the student surpasses his teacher (Gorbi) laughing
    5. Grigorich 1962
      Grigorich 1962 23 July 2013 11: 26 New
      +8
      the dream of my whole life
    6. Ajsberg
      Ajsberg 23 July 2013 12: 31 New
      0
      It is unlikely that we will wait. The world government will not allow)))
      Yes, and for the third term, Obama, unlike some, will not pass in any way, and the remaining time will not be enough for him ...
    7. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru 23 July 2013 13: 33 New
      +2
      hi
      This is, based on the phrase in "Only old people go into battle" - "I’m satisfied with the ruins of the Capitol ..."
    8. NKVD
      NKVD 23 July 2013 14: 17 New
      +7
      If a black man destroys the USA, I will consider him the greatest black man of all time ....
      1. X.Aegis
        X.Aegis 26 July 2013 19: 51 New
        0
        Interestingly, the benefits of a country you use? you're more likely to die with a book in your hands ..... boredom ....
    9. kris
      kris 23 July 2013 14: 19 New
      +3
      Another vyser Mr. Chuvakina. Why are you so attached to these fucking pin dos?
      Most people don't give a damn about striped ones.
      People do not understand: why is their average salary 5 times higher and gasoline cheaper?
      why are there normal roads?
      Why are utilities and products also worth it?
      Enough to turn the arrows on someone, we live in our country, and not in America! And people care about the problems of Russia, about which you do not like to write !!!
      1. Asgard
        Asgard 23 July 2013 15: 41 New
        +3
        Michael can’t be so about People. Oleg writes in accordance with his ideas. If you can, (reasonably)) add in comments ... (this is personally welcomed by me))))
        And you immediately "vyser" .....
        Well, Oleg, do not be offended, every Russian person has his own idea of ​​the problems)))))
        In their specific circumstances IT, this view is probably more correct for those who DECLARE IT ....

        Here I have koment scored 50 votes, though with a sign -, but probably this is not "vyser" time People were not indifferent and almost everyone reading gave a rating)))) (not to me, to myself)))
        So I can only thank ....
        And yet, it would be necessary to bring “concepts” among People to a single denominator ...
        So that these norms and rules are human .....
        and it doesn’t matter who calls himself anarchist, democrat, Russian patriot, cunning Jew)))), it’s important to remember that we are ALL PEOPLE, we are all Humans ....

        P / S and MIKHAIL apologize, this action will erase all the unrighteous things you have lived.
        And I will be happy about human relationships.
        (we will discuss the animal in another topic))))
    10. datur
      datur 23 July 2013 14: 54 New
      0
      [quote = Return_SSSR] Now when the United States of America (USA) will turn into the Commonwealth of Independent States (SSS), then - we can say that they got what they deserved not for us and that’s enough!
    11. yak69
      yak69 23 July 2013 20: 43 New
      0
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      That's when the United States of America (USA) will turn into the Commonwealth of Independent States (SSS), then ....

      .... then it will be possible to ascertain with 100% certainty that serious problems begin with us too !!
      If the United States changes its policy to a truly democratic one (which can hardly be), then it will be better for us, and for the whole world. But the collapse of America will not bring us relief, that's for sure.
      First, this is a US-centered global economic model. Secondly, these are all the destructive forces that she fed. Third, this is a degrading geyropa. Fourth, US citizens are heavily armed to the teeth. ALL!!
      Now, imagine: the international economy has lost its bearings, the dollar has been blown away. What will become the unit of account? Barter? Gold? But life does not stand still - you need to eat, drink, heat every day, maintain production, communication, the rule of law, etc. The collapse of the dollar today is economic chaos, collapse! This is our same stabilization fund will turn into dust.
      Further. All of these foster mercenaries paid by the United States will lose their earnings. All this trash will go feed on the world, robberies and killings.
      Now, the geyropa. These buggers will lose those who hammer their dupes and stimulate this entire controlled process of degradation. They will lose their mind, having lost their support!
      And armed American citizens, they, what will stay there? I doubt it. These, too, will crawl around the world like cockroaches, spread their infection - the American way of life. They will be brutalized without hamburgers!
      So, do not rejoice in the grief of others. It touches us too.
      Another thing is to conduct the systematic dismantling of this parasitic system, while developing a new model of interstate relations. Then everything is in due time, according to plan, without excesses.
      The world is interconnected. Humanity is a single organism, and if one part of the body dies, then the death of the whole organism is just around the corner.
    12. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 30 July 2013 05: 11 New
      +1
      the Indians say: if you sit on the river for a long time, then sooner or later the corpse of your enemy will pass by ....
  2. sasha.28blaga
    sasha.28blaga 23 July 2013 07: 06 New
    +1
    I have not read the article yet, but I’m only in favor of the title. And now I went to read the article.
  3. Revolver
    Revolver 23 July 2013 07: 19 New
    +7
    It is unlikely. This secretary general could say "there is such an opinion" and everyone stretched out on a string. And the president cannot do anything until the congress of the dough is allocated for this business. And in the congress, the Republicans still rule, and they have good chances to get a majority also in the Senate in 2014. So it won't ruin it, but it might well do much more harm.
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 23 July 2013 08: 00 New
      +6
      As far as our bell tower is concerned, there is a crisis of a systemic nature. The whole mechanism begins to creak and crack at the seams. The President, alone, of course, will not destroy the country, but in the aggregate, the current factors are quite capable of doing this in the medium term.
    2. S-200
      S-200 23 July 2013 08: 48 New
      18
      hi I agree with you!
      Not a single US President will be allowed to do what Gorbachev, Yeltsin did @ etc.with their country ... In Russia, historically, the government of the country is built on the army model -ONE-STARTING. At certain historical stages of the country's development, this is not even bad at all ... It (one-man management) implies unconditional submission to a superior, strict centralization of all branches of power and resources of the country ...
      And then how lucky Russia with the ruler ....
      No wonder Napoleon said that ... "A flock of lions driven by a ram will be defeated by a herd of rams driven by a lion!"
      By the way, Assad confirms this Napoleonic paradigm.
  4. King
    King 23 July 2013 07: 25 New
    +8
    Empires were created and crumbled. It looks like the United States has come.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 23 July 2013 13: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: King
      . It looks like the United States has come.

      Well, so it's time, we've been waiting for a long time.
      1. za VDV
        za VDV 23 July 2013 19: 12 New
        0
        Their boomerang returned to the USA, which they launched around the world ........
        1. X.Aegis
          X.Aegis 26 July 2013 19: 53 New
          -1
          But he returned to see the USSR a long time ago, as early as the beginning of the 20th century (For Petrik and Katka), we still do not recover.
    2. X.Aegis
      X.Aegis 26 July 2013 19: 52 New
      -1
      This is a normal cycle, there are many prerequisites for this. Maybe it will all end in a revolution, according to Gordon. Many contrasts in American society. A president without orthodox decisions simply enhances the contrast and tension in the layers.
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    1. Revolver
      Revolver 23 July 2013 07: 35 New
      0
      Quote: T80UM1
      As if something depends on Obama there. In this case, Obama is a puppet.

      If so sad
  6. svskor80
    svskor80 23 July 2013 07: 27 New
    14
    If Obama brings the states to collapse, little will not seem to anyone. It is unlikely that it will do without war, and then a Chinese physiognomy will stick out of each "barrel." It seems to me that Russia is not interested in this, we need to reach the economic and industrial level of leaders as soon as possible and play our game without looking back at anyone.
    1. Alan
      Alan 23 July 2013 08: 08 New
      +8
      Quote: svskor80
      It seems to me that Russia is not interested in this, we need to reach the economic and industrial level of leaders as soon as possible and play our game without looking back at anyone.

      When reading this article, this thought also occurred to me. In my opinion, the most acceptable option for Russia is the slow stagnation of the USA with the subsequent collapse in the medium term. But Russia should use this time to the maximum, in every possible way playing on the contradictions between the USA and China .. Since otherwise a monopoly power pole (China) appears that is not bound by any conventions.
    2. strange and pretty meaningless
      strange and pretty meaningless 23 July 2013 09: 19 New
      +1
      Yes, it’s better to be rich and healthy than the poor and sick laughing
    3. za VDV
      za VDV 23 July 2013 19: 20 New
      0
      We have been playing this game for a long time ... It could not have done without our diversions. We will collapse the USA and immediately collapse NATO.
    4. Daduda
      Daduda 25 July 2013 19: 02 New
      0
      Yes to hell with them, let them pour in. It only worries what will happen to nuclear weapons if they split? It was more or less clear with us, we dispersed across the republics, and all the main strategic nuclear forces remained in Russia, with the exception of Ukraine, which voluntarily transferred them.
      In the USA, it’s not at all clear. We get a few dozen quasi-states with strategic nuclear forces and what will this turn out for the world?
  7. Denis
    Denis 23 July 2013 07: 31 New
    +9
    HIS WORD YES GOD IN EARS with such a saying I will say about the title of the article
    And in the mind, so you have to lie less and you will be "happy"
    The culprits of the collapse of state systems are not openly attacking armies and not internal dissidents.
    Ruined lies!
    What happens to the gallant and taught to love ladies France?
    better not say anything
    The whole mattress rose on the cotton-labor of slaves and the production of textiles, manufactory and gave birth to factories, and now rushed to the other extreme?
    Neh to run from side to side-boat, not only rock, but you can drown
    All those accusing the USSR of atheism were mired in sodomy and other perversions. Forgotten or lied, for which the Creator criticized sodom and gomora?
    Yes, and I live in the Union, I’m sure that I’m not alone, I liked living, but when I read the slogans I understood that they were
    1. Denis
      Denis 24 July 2013 01: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: Denis
      What happens to the gallant and taught to love ladies France?
      Only slogans and homosexuals remained
      And the boobs in the picture
  8. shinobi
    shinobi 23 July 2013 07: 34 New
    10
    America, the politicians, I mean, made one fatal mistake. I fell the only competitor. And the whole world historical experience and the experience of America itself in particular unequivocally states that there is no progress without a competitive struggle. There is no evolution. An empire that has achieved world domination is doomed. It will crumble under the influence purely internal forces, since there are no external companioners. Like with deep-sea fish, with a sharp drop in external pressure, it tears apart the hell from the inside. Actually, this is the only reason why the amers are so intensely looking for an external enemy. And they don’t find it. For this reason alone, Russia will rise, since without it, some US projects are simply not feasible in practice. Only in tandem opposing each other do the USA and Russia have a future.

    PS: I’m not at all surprised if it suddenly turns out that there is some kind of secret unwritten agreement between us and the USA.
    1. omsbon
      omsbon 23 July 2013 09: 55 New
      +4
      Quote: shinobi
      : I’m not at all surprised if it suddenly turns out that there is some kind of secret unwritten agreement between us and the USA.

      A secret, and even unwritten contract is good because it does not have to be fulfilled! hi
  9. Alexanderlaskov
    Alexanderlaskov 23 July 2013 07: 36 New
    11
    The USA destroyed the USSR. Why not help the USA to Russia.
    1. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 23 July 2013 09: 01 New
      +7
      As the popular wisdom says: "Debt - payment is beautiful!" hi
    2. X.Aegis
      X.Aegis 26 July 2013 19: 55 New
      -2
      > USA destroyed the USSR.
      Describe this process in more detail, but something tells me that this is another "dogma with the pritenziya" losers of the race.
  10. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 23 July 2013 07: 37 New
    10
    Oh, hurry up! Maybe they will be occupied with OWN PROBLEMS, and once, and there will be nothing around the world to arrange "war" and spoil the states, primarily RUSSIA! Let him invite his FRIEND, laureate of the Nobel Prize for the collapse of the USSR, Mr. Gorbaty, he will give the "process" - ACCELERATION.
  11. Dimy4
    Dimy4 23 July 2013 07: 42 New
    +1
    The only American citizen about schools got excited.
  12. Ivan79
    Ivan79 23 July 2013 07: 43 New
    +3
    Heck! I'm already tired of waiting for them to fall apart. Such articles appear, if I’m not mistaken,
    from the year of commercials 2008 ... When will it finally happen ?!
  13. GUSAR
    GUSAR 23 July 2013 07: 43 New
    +3
    That's when they fall apart, then we'll talk. Otherwise, all this is talking about nothing ...
  14. Constantine
    Constantine 23 July 2013 07: 58 New
    +5
    I do not agree with all the citations from the article, but on the whole the general vision of the situation is correct. The black president, with a high degree of probability, will be the starting point of the United States to the underworld. Although .. again, Russia will save everyone. The main thing is not on your own head.

    If he does, then he can be given the second Gorbachev award - the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called. More precisely, it’s taken from Gorbi and given to Obama because the first is not worthy of even holding it in his hands.
  15. lesnik340
    lesnik340 23 July 2013 08: 00 New
    +3
    I ask you not to confuse Obama as a hypocrite, Gorbachev a traitor. They are different in everything. Gorbachev initially sold his homeland, and Obama is trying to return America again to the podium.
    Koryavenko but trying.
    1. Hariva
      Hariva 23 July 2013 09: 51 New
      +4
      Yes, yes, the analogy is not complete. But what about the dry law? That's when the Americans will start to cook alcohol-containing bourd from the “Moment”, then then all are twin brothers definitely)))
    2. za VDV
      za VDV 23 July 2013 19: 22 New
      0
      Obama is trying to bring America back to the podium.
      Koryavyenko but trying. [/ Quote]

      He won’t succeed!
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  16. dojjdik
    dojjdik 23 July 2013 08: 08 New
    +4
    state prezik - an ordinary puppet puppet; state presidents never had and never will have power; so the negro just pretends that he is doing something; the idea of ​​breaking up the states is old and not bad
  17. knn54
    knn54 23 July 2013 08: 13 New
    +5
    -Really, we add from ourselves, Obama and Gorbachev are very similar in their policies.
    Unfortunately, in American history, unlike ours, nothing depends on a person.
    But like a parasite country that lived on a printing press and plundered the resources (not only natural) of the former USSR, there was no future, except to ruin Russia.
    PS "Monopoly leads to decay." V.I. Lenin.
    PPS What is the use of man if he gains the whole world, and hurts his soul? or what ransom will a man give for his soul? Gospel of Matthew 16:26
    1. X.Aegis
      X.Aegis 26 July 2013 19: 57 New
      -1
      > Unfortunately, in American history, unlike ours, nothing depends on the person.
      It depends, how about the fact that this is a federation, like Russia. This is the problem that depends.
  18. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 23 July 2013 08: 15 New
    +5
    USA-Sodom, Europe-Gomorrah, judging by historical parallels, they have not long left.
    1. Proud.
      Proud. 23 July 2013 09: 39 New
      +9
      So it is, here is such a sodo-homomorphic union
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 23 July 2013 09: 45 New
        0
        Do not say who you just learned ...
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          1. Nayhas
            Nayhas 23 July 2013 13: 37 New
            -1
            Quote: Be proud.
            Putin's photos are also past

            If Barack Obama kissed the boy’s tummy, would it also look innocent?
            1. Proud.
              Proud. 23 July 2013 15: 42 New
              0
              Quote: Nayhas
              If Barack Obama kissed the boy’s tummy, would it also look innocent?

              No, I’m not from Obamych. “He seemed to me very independent, very serious, and at the same time, the child is always unprotected ... Very nice boy. To be honest, I just wanted to cuddle him like a kitten. This desire resulted in the gesture you are talking about ... There was nothing of the kind, ”Putin explained his action. I don’t know, but it is said quite sincerely.
      2. Nayhas
        Nayhas 23 July 2013 09: 49 New
        -7


        And from the same topic about them ...
      3. Ilya Mikhalych
        Ilya Mikhalych 23 July 2013 12: 08 New
        +1
        Obama relishes
      4. X.Aegis
        X.Aegis 26 July 2013 19: 58 New
        -1
        And this is not photoshop? Is this Cameron?
  19. Forget
    Forget 23 July 2013 08: 27 New
    12
    they needed dishwashers and the best schools.
    dishwashers were needed, but I would be silent about the school.
    1. Leisure
      Leisure 23 July 2013 08: 47 New
      +4
      I agree, he praised himself with schools. It is typical for Amer to see in himself the greatness and insignificance of others. And after all, there is no particular desire to know the environment, because he was told that America is No. 1 on the whole earth, and maybe in the galaxy.
  20. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 23 July 2013 08: 35 New
    0
    from the Don.
    Guys, they’re not suckers in the USA. And if the collapse starts, the Bardak with the gop company Evrviskot will leave on someone’s shoulders! It's too early to bury Jun. And to compare the environment of Bardak and Humpbacked, there’s no point.
  21. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 23 July 2013 08: 36 New
    +3
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    Now when the United States of America (USA) will turn into the Commonwealth of Independent States (SSS), then - we can say that they got what they deserved.

    I would like to live to see the day when this happens!
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 23 July 2013 09: 07 New
      +4
      Only in the spider lair, it is unlikely to get COMMONWEALTH.
  22. strange and pretty meaningless
    strange and pretty meaningless 23 July 2013 09: 12 New
    +9
    What is the "economy" of the USA - the most alshy and most ambitious cut of the dough - it’s clear.
    “These people didn’t want rockets and bombs — they needed dishwashers and the best schools.”
    BEST SCHOOLS ??? Is this about (P) indostane ??? For the sake of this, USE examiners have introduced? Stsuka, there are no words - I would suffocate ... with taxes. Even Amer’s elite closed boarding colleges, which teach the “cream” of world democracy, didn’t breathe in the Soviet school at the PUP!
    Is there a plan or not a plan? A plan is a very tricky thing, if it is, then it is not there right away wassat If Mr. Bernanke suddenly runs out of plan, then for the remaining gold in Fort Knox you can push him the rest of the PUTIN PLAN laughing
  23. Whale
    Whale 23 July 2013 09: 18 New
    -7
    text bullshit picture funny
    1. Hariva
      Hariva 23 July 2013 09: 55 New
      +6
      The picture is wonderful. There is an opinion that the famous "Gorbachev spot" spread across Obama all over the "erysipelas." It will be hard for the Americans. With such a "potential" the leader)))
  24. seller trucks
    seller trucks 23 July 2013 09: 40 New
    +4
    At the same time, the protagonists in the White House continue to believe that their governance is effective, because otherwise it simply cannot be


    they say that "history moves in a spiral, only time changes in history, people and means of action" (C)

    what personally I am once again convinced, Oleg, great respect. But no matter how pleased it was, we were put in the same boat with them, so we’ll have to die / save all together
  25. duke
    duke 23 July 2013 09: 43 New
    +3
    who is more valuable than mother history, we say Babam, we mean Gorbi ... wassat
  26. Nayhas
    Nayhas 23 July 2013 09: 43 New
    -4
    Another rubbish rubbing hands in the hope that the United States will fall apart ... I recall that previous hand rubbers slept through the collapse of their own country, but did not wait for the collapse of the United States, now they feed the people with bikes again, and now, soon, the damned USA will give an oak . It's so nice to dream about this ...
    1. Truth-lover
      Truth-lover 23 July 2013 10: 18 New
      +1
      Really nothing has changed. I remember my childhood arguments "how good it is that I do not live in America, how bad it is there."
  27. Natalia
    Natalia 23 July 2013 09: 44 New
    +4
    The difference between the USA and the USSR is that during the Soviet state there were two poles (communism and capitalism). Now there’s only one, and it’s still being pumped up with money, other countries are ready to feed the US economy, buy up debt, etc. if only the good old order was not destroyed. They are afraid of the unknown. Think about how many countries hold their assets in US dollars. When a critical moment comes, everyone is ready to give money to America if only there would not be a global economic cataclysm.
    The same KIRDYK to America will come exactly when the whole world refuses to supply the American economy and allows it to go into technical default.
  28. a52333
    a52333 23 July 2013 09: 50 New
    +3
    Quote: xetai9977
    Under Obama, the United States is losing ground is a fact.

    They are losing positions, but without significant military pressure on them they will not default, i.e. this yard racketeer will continue to rob the economies of less militarily weak states, while raising the state limit. debt.
    1. X.Aegis
      X.Aegis 26 July 2013 19: 59 New
      -1
      > military pressure
      How?
  29. omsbon
    omsbon 23 July 2013 09: 58 New
    +2
    If Barack Obramych breaks up the star-striped country, then I propose to establish a super-duper world prize and give it to Obama!
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 23 July 2013 10: 12 New
      +1
      Awarding the awards is necessary after the deed. Not before or during.
      We will see. Obama is Gorbachev, whose stain has grown over his entire body. For greater similarity, he needs to draw a white speck
    2. Natalia
      Natalia 23 July 2013 13: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: omsbon
      If Barack Obramych breaks up the star-striped country, then I propose to establish a super-duper world prize and give it to Obama!

      Well, the idea is more than good, but not a super peace prize, but the Gorbachev Cup will be even more symbolic lol
      And letting him come to Russia, he will be our national hero then))))
  30. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 23 July 2013 10: 09 New
    0
    Bob Slate
    .
    These people did not want rockets and bombs - they needed dishwashers and the best schools.

    About schools - he bent it unambiguously. True, he spoke for his own people and his audience still understands this as a pig in oranges.
  31. ed65b
    ed65b 23 July 2013 10: 09 New
    +1
    The Yankees will get out, how to drink to get out.
  32. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 23 July 2013 10: 36 New
    +3
    The collapse of the country by the black president was whitewashed by the white racists, so that later they would drive all blacks back to the plantation. They are supposedly stupid, like their president.
  33. kmike
    kmike 23 July 2013 10: 41 New
    +1
    I don’t have any doubts that the USA will bend. I would like to catch this show, but I’m sure that they will cause concern to the whole world, it’s not the USSR.
  34. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 23 July 2013 10: 46 New
    +2
    “You are well prepared for my young student!” Said Gorbachev to Obama, before taking office as president. Well, seriously, it’s unlikely that in the history of our galaxy there will be an even greater master at destroying everything and everything than our “dear” Mykhailo "labeled" Gorbachev. I think that it’s just necessary for the heads of state to create a textbook on how to “DO NOT govern the state” and to describe in detail all the managerial decisions of Mykhailo for ALL decisions he made, whether in the economy, in the internal and foreign policy turned into a terrible catastrophe. And some mines laid by Misha exploded after the collapse of the USSR. A unique person!
  35. Bezarius
    Bezarius 23 July 2013 11: 01 New
    0
    The post effect of capitalism in all its glory.
  36. papss
    papss 23 July 2013 11: 04 New
    +2
    The article is interesting, but comparing the coincidences between Gorbachev and Obama and as a subsequent fact of the inevitable collapse of the United States is not correct ... Gorbachev is at least not a distant, ruled person, at most - a traitor. The United States releases world currency, and wherever they go, they transfer the center of power, and even attack with their global missile defense, Europe holds NATO in its throat and surveillance, the UN is controlled, the economy holds first places in all major sectors, it creates and consumes technology , is mastering the release of new technology ... Yes, there are "sores" - the products of their own system ... the United States is taking "vitamins" in the form of weakening the housekeeper of both its allies and potential enemies ... The influence and strength of the USA have decreased, of course, but to talk about collapse is to deceive yourself ...
  37. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 23 July 2013 11: 17 New
    +3
    I agree with the author. To a big ship - a big torpedo!
  38. valokordin
    valokordin 23 July 2013 11: 24 New
    -7
    America will not fall apart like the USSR, there is a lot of money there and sound Jewish brains that will not allow the collapse of the US.
    1. X.Aegis
      X.Aegis 26 July 2013 20: 00 New
      -1
      What about the examples? Tell you, who ruled the USSR (who did the party consist of?)? And now the number in our country is not small.
  39. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 23 July 2013 11: 28 New
    +3
    Obama !! Vali America ..... and we will certainly provide you with political asylum !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. INTER
      INTER 23 July 2013 11: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: Grigorich 1962
      Obama !! Vali America ..... and we will certainly provide you with political asylum !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Have you forgotten that we will arrange a magnificent holiday for him on his 60th birthday with the invitation of world stars!)))))
  40. ben gun
    ben gun 23 July 2013 11: 29 New
    +3
    On July 4, Independence Day, the symbol of American democracy, the Statue of Liberty, reopened to the public. If this sculpture had not been donated by France to the American people, then designed by a French architect, cast from Russian copper and mounted on a pedestal made of German cement, it could represent not only democracy, but also the ability of Americans to live in other people's brains and other people's resources. But a gift is a gift.
    and live thinking that the best lol
  41. Galinanp
    Galinanp 23 July 2013 11: 43 New
    +1
    The president in the USA is not an independent political figure. Behind these clowns is the power of the backstage, which really rules all political, economic processes.
    1. 89501358976
      89501358976 23 July 2013 13: 02 New
      +3
      America, the politicians, I mean, made one fatal mistake. I knocked over the only competitor. I listened to Khazin, and he also said something, supposedly in the 70s the USSR had a dilemma to knock MATRASNIKOV or not. Our analysts calculated the situation in the future, and considered that the UNION one will not take out the situation in the world. Not steel !!! the amers didn’t have enough brains. They dumped me! I think that in the next 2-3 years we will witness the collapse of SYSHYA. although after this it will not be sweet to anyone hi soldier
      1. SOKOL777
        SOKOL777 29 July 2013 01: 38 New
        0
        In general, I agree ... In terms of time may be more.
        But what should we do? According to some press reports, up to 40% of all dollars are in Russia. This is a lot.
        Offer to buy around the world:
        -gold;
        - foreign technologies and scientific developments necessary for Russia;
        - scientists and prominent designers, engineers;
        - advanced equipment, machines, materials, in order to study and organize their production in Russia.
        It would be nice to buy modern enterprises abroad (USA, Europe).
        Let them plow on Russia. The task is very difficult, but I'm sure we have nuggets that can solve these issues.
        But in matters of ideology, propaganda, we need unconditional leadership.
        To remind them of their “SUSPENDING DEMOCRACY,” under the guise of which they pour rivers of blood in the Arab world, Africa.
        To enchant them in the eyes of the whole world, then they, like mad dogs, will begin to eat each other. Let them slurp what we slurped in the 90s ...
        Then the United States will fall apart. am angry
  42. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 23 July 2013 12: 12 New
    +2
    Send Gorbachev to Obama as assistants, chief adviser.
  43. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 23 July 2013 12: 15 New
    +2
    It is doubtful that the United States will fall apart because of Obama. Most likely it will say "Fuck off nigger", and thrown out of the window of the White House. I would do that ...
    1. X.Aegis
      X.Aegis 26 July 2013 20: 01 New
      +1
      Congress is likely to do so.
  44. gregor6549
    gregor6549 23 July 2013 12: 22 New
    +2
    Nobody will allow Obama to ruin the United States. After all, there’s no one there, and there is a system that does not allow an idiot, even if he and the President take decisions fatal for the country individually. But under Gorbachev there was no such system, which allowed him to destroy the USSR. Even the army and the KGB, which were OBLIGED to protect the country, were saved, not to say worse, and continued to pass under Yeltsin. As a result, they got what they got, and those who were supposed to defend the country were the first to rush to sell it, which they succeeded in.
  45. StrateG
    StrateG 23 July 2013 12: 23 New
    +1
    Obama, quite possibly, is on the verge of the collapse of the capitalist system


    History repeats itself twice.
  46. Southerner
    Southerner 23 July 2013 12: 23 New
    0
    The maximum that this greatest politician will ruin is the chair on which he sits, and in the United States a systemic crisis cannot be lived on credit forever
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 23 July 2013 12: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: Southerner
      Well, you can’t live forever in debt

      How many times has it been said
      Obama = Pound Vice Chairman!
  47. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 23 July 2013 12: 48 New
    +1
    Obama will destroy the United States just as Gorbachev ruined the USSR
    Brzezinski’s not to be slowly expelled to retirement, but Gorbachev urgently send him to help (while he’s still alive and hanging around idiot, he’ll probably succeed, otherwise his second term will end soon, and he’ll get around. And the human rights defenders of “ours” are sent there, otherwise the nonsense here suffers from idleness. hi
  48. 89501358976
    89501358976 23 July 2013 13: 14 New
    0
    Quote: ed65b
    The Yankees will get out, how to drink to get out.

    NOW THE HORSE ALREADY UNLOAD !!!
  49. Fuck_usa
    Fuck_usa 23 July 2013 13: 35 New
    +1
    I propose to help the states (by collapse), having entered into an alliance with the indigenous population (Indians), the enemy must be blamed from within ....
  50. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 23 July 2013 13: 48 New
    +1
    The USA’s collapse will have to wait a long time, 91 years have passed since the formation of the USSR, but they won’t fall apart,
    In addition, a free trade zone between Europe and North America will soon appear.
    almost a billion consumer market. And we are only 1,5% on the planet.