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Russian do not surrender: stronger tank armor

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This article is about people who made possible the victory in the battle of Kursk and the tank battle near Prokhorovka, whose 70th anniversary falls on these days. These are just some of those whose will to win was stronger tank Armor and whom Major General of the Wehrmacht, Chief of Staff of the 4th Tank Army, participant in the Battle of Kursk Mellentin Friedrich von Wilhelm wrote in his book “Tank battles 1939-1945: Combat use of tanks in the Second World War”:


“The extraordinary development of the Russian armored forces deserves the closest attention of those who study the experience of war ... It’s not just the skillful leadership of individual gifted individuals; people, for the most part apathetic and ignorant, without any preparation, without any abilities, acted intelligently and showed surprising self-control. Tankers of the Red Army tempered in the crucible of war, their skill has grown immeasurably. Such a transformation should have required exceptionally high organization and unusually skillful planning and leadership ... The Russian soldier values ​​his life no more than the lives of his comrades. Neither bombs explosions nor shells explosions affect him ... We find an indication of this also in Kolenkur in his description of the 1812 battle of Borodino ... Kolenkur gives the following remark by Napoleon: "These Russians do not surrender alive. We cannot do anything."

The tank crew of the Wehrmacht’s 12 Panzer Division, Hans Becker, recalls them: “On the Eastern Front I met people who can be called a special race. Already the first attack turned into a battle for life and death. ” His compatriots, anti-tank gunners, already remembered the first hours of the war because “during the attack we came across a light Russian T-26 tank, we immediately clicked it directly from the 37-graph paper. When we began to approach, a Russian leaned out from the hatch of the tower to the waist and opened fire on us with a pistol. It soon became clear that he was legless, they were torn off when the tank was hit. And in spite of this, he fired at us from a pistol! ”

Becker’s fellow countrymen will also remember Ivan Xeruda, a 91 tank regiment, who in August 1941, under Dvina, captured a German tank with an ax - crept up to him, climbing onto his armor, closing the machine gun with a piece of tarpaulin and disabling the machine gun, and lieutenant tankman Agzam Tayupov, who got out to put out his wounded T-34, the rest of whose crew died in battle near the village of Polunino, north-west of Rzhev. Wounded and contused, the lieutenant was shot from the Germans rushed from all sides to the last bullet. Then, dropping the machine, grabbed a tank scrap and began hammering the Germans with them, taken aback by such impudence and decided to take the hero alive. Tayupov managed to hold out until his approach and, jumping on the T-34 that came to his rescue, set off for a new tank ...

At the end of June, the 1941 of the Wehrmacht 6 Panzer Division fought for two days with a single KV tank. Four Soviet tankers against the Raus battle group, which included the II tank regiment, the I / 4 th motorized regiment, the II / 76 th artillery regiment, the 57 th tank sapper battalion company, the 41 th battalion of tank destroyers, battery II / 411-th anti-aircraft regiment, 6-th motorcycle battalion! This episode was described in detail in his memoirs by the commander of the campus, Colonel-General Erhard Raus, who conquered the entire war on the Eastern Front, passing Moscow, Stalingrad and Kursk, and ending it as commander of the 3 Panzer Army. Of the 427 pages of 12 memoirs, Raus dedicated a two-day battle with a single Russian tank that destroyed a convoy of trucks, marching towards the Germans from the captured city of Raiseniai, an artillery battery, dozens of Germans and several of the 50 (fifty) tanks that attacked him from three sides. The Nazis managed to destroy the Soviet heroes only with the help of cunning, from the rear, from 88-mm anti-aircraft guns, after which, according to Erhard Raus, “... deeply shocked by this heroism, we buried them with all military honors. They fought until the last breath ... ".

Russian do not surrender: stronger tank armor

Tank KV-1, shot from anti-aircraft guns


3 July 1941, an impressive raid on the streets of Minsk, was made by the legendary avenger tank T-28, which alone fought the city’s Hitler garrison. The crew - a senior sergeant-super-conscript, a hero of battles in Spain, Finnish and Khalkhin-Gola Dmitry Malko, a major tankman Vasechkin, cadets Nikolay Pedan, Alexander Rachitsky, Fyodor Naumov and Sergey (the name remained unknown) - managed to pass almost half the city, destroying 14 trucks , about a dozen tanks and armored vehicles, 3 artillery batteries and over 350 fascists. The “fiery tank”, already burning, shot at point-blank anti-tank guns, continued to move and destroy the Nazis, reaching the area of ​​the present Komarovka and J. Kolas Square. Here the crew took the last battle, firing to the last cartridge from the personal weapons. Some of the heroes died, N.Pedan was captured, F.Naumov was sheltered and then transferred to the partisans by Minskers, D.Malko was wounded by a fragment in the head D.Malko managed to cross the front line and subsequently led into battle T-34, freeing Belarus and Poland.


A similar feat in the autumn of 1941 of the year will be accomplished by another T-34 “fire tank”, commanded by senior sergeant Stepan Khristoforovich Gorobets (pictured), on October 17 breaking through the entire fascists occupied Tver, from west to east. Despite the damage from a German projectile hit, a PzKpfw III tank was destroyed during a raid by a ram, several motorcycles, anti-tank rifles, around 20 vehicles and dozens of Nazis (by machine-gun fire and tracks).


ZG Kolobanov and his crew KV-1, August 1941


The most productive tanker Dmitry Lavrinenko managed to conquer the entire 2,5 of the month in 1941, but during this time he managed to destroy the enemy's 52 tank - a result that no one in the Red Army could surpass until the end of the war. The second in performance was the hero of the Finnish War, Senior Lieutenant Zinovy ​​Grigorievich Kolobanov. 19 August 1941 in the area of ​​the State farm "Troops" Leningrad region 5 (instead of 11) tanks understaffed 3-th company under the command of Kolobanov destroyed 43 enemy tank, losing only 1 (one) of their own. The tank of Zinoviy Grigorievich himself, having received 135 hits of German shells, did not come out of the battle and set an absolute record, destroying a German tank 3 in an hour of 22! From the memoirs of Z.G. Kolobanova:

“... The crew of the tank is more than family. After all, a tank is a machine that submits to the collective. Here full coordination and mutual understanding are necessary. Otherwise, you can not fight. ... Wonderful, beautiful people. I understood and felt everyone: the most experienced mechanic-driver, Kolya Nikiforov, the gun commander, the real master of his craft, Andrei Usov, the very brave radio operator Pasha Kiselkov, the loader, the good man Kolya Rodenkov ... I was often asked: was it scary? Awkward answer, may be mistaken for a bouncer. But I did not feel any fear. I will explain why. I am a military man. After retirement, I worked in 23 for the year in the national economy. But all the same all my life I felt like a military man. Then the division commander gave me the order to "stand to death." This is not some kind of emotional wording, but an exact order. I accepted it for execution. He was ready, if necessary, to die. And I didn’t have any fears and could not arise ... What does the tankman remember about the fight? Crosshair sight. Here the tension is such that time is compressed, there is not a second for extraneous thoughts. I remember how my guys shouted: “Hurray!”, “Burning! ..” And I cannot recover any details of this fight. ”


The tank crew of Lieutenant Dmitry Lavrinenko


The wounded crew of the wounded tank commander Sergeant Ivan Lyubushkin in one battle destroyed the enemy's 9 tanks. From the memories of Marshal of Armored Forces M.Ye. Katukov, who commanded the 4 Tank Brigade in the battles for Moscow: “An excellent tank commander, Lyubushkin was also an excellent tank gunner ... On October 6 he personally destroyed the Battle of the First Warrior village 9 tanks and up to a company of infantry of the enemy. Shy by nature, Lyubushkin loved to dance, and, I must say, he did it skillfully and beautifully. Here, as in the shooting, he had no equal. " I.Lyubushkin himself recalled this fight like this:

“I then, under the First Warrior, received an order to go to the left flank and take a place for a tank duel. Only reached the designated point - one shell hit my car, but did not pierce the armor. I myself sat by the cannon, I commanded the crew: “Give us the pigs! Let's see whose steel is stronger. " And he began to beat. The shells kept knocking on our armor all the time, but I kept on firing. One German tank was fired, immediately a second one, followed by a third one. Shells were served to me by all the crew members. He hit the fourth tank - it does not burn, but, I see, tankers jump out of it. Sent fragmentation projectile - finished off. Then he hit the tank.

At this time, nevertheless, some Hitlerite contrived, hit my car in the side. This shell pierced the armor and exploded inside the tank. The crew was blinded. Chad. The radio operator Duvanov and the driver Fedorov groaned ... I continue to fire, but then I hear Duvanov say: "My leg is torn off." I was shouting to Fedorov - at that time he was already breathing a little bit: “Start the engine!”

... The engine started, but the speed, except the rear, did not turn on. Somehow they crawled backwards, hiding behind our heavy KV tank. There they tied up a radio operator's leg, removed the shot shells. It would be necessary to get out of the battlefield and make repairs, but then I saw sheltered German tanks in the bushes that were firing. Wow, they were very visible to me, it was a pity to leave them.

My main sight is broken, but there is an auxiliary one left. I say to the guys: “Give us the shells! Once more we knock. " And he began to beat the reptiles.

The fascists see that our tank is still shooting, they are again starting to beat us. One projectile hit the turret, did not pierce, but inside a piece of armor flew from the impact and hit me on the right leg, which was on the trigger device. The leg became senseless. I thought it was no longer there; now everything, shot out forever, like Duvanov. But I felt it - there is no blood, it is whole. He put her hands to the side, began to shoot his left foot. Inconvenient. Then he began to bend and press the trigger with his right hand ...

Finishing this fight in the bushes, I still lit another tank. Our other cars rushed forward, and I only have reverse gear. I went out of battle. I handed over the wounded to the orderlies, and my leg came to life, and the car was repaired in two hours. And I once again went to war this day. ”


For that fight, Ivan Timofeevich Lyubushkin (in the photo) received the title of Hero of the Soviet Union, and the radio operator Duvanov received the Order of the Red Banner.

Tank KV, commanded by the first tank ramor Lieutenant Pavel Danilovich Gudz, who was already famous on the first day of the war, in December 1941, on the outskirts of Volokolamsk, seized 18 with enemy tanks, destroying 10 of them, as well as 4 anti-tank guns and several dozen Hitler’s ...


Lieutenant P.D. Hutz sets off on his HF from the 7 parade of November 1941 of the year on Red Square to the front.

Finally, as a kind of application, two letters from 1941.

A letter of tankman A. Golikov to his wife

Dear Tonya!

I do not know, will you ever read these lines? But I firmly know that this is my last letter.

Now the battle is hot, deadly. Our tank shot down. Around us are fascists. All day we repel the attack. Ostrovsky Street is littered with corpses in green uniforms, they look like large immovable lizards.

Today is the sixth day of the war. We stayed together - Pavel Abramov and me. You know him, I wrote to you about him. We do not think about saving our life. We are warriors and are not afraid to die for the Motherland. We think how much more expensive the Germans would pay for us, for our lives ...

I am sitting in a riddled and mutilated tank. The heat is unbearable, thirsty. There is not a drop of water. Your portrait is on my lap. I look at him, at your blue eyes, and it becomes easier for me - you are with me. I want to talk to you, many, many, frankly, as before, there, in Ivanovo ...

22 June, when war was declared, I thought of you, thought, when will I return now, when will I see you and press your sweet head to my chest? Maybe never. After all, the war ... When our tank first met the enemy, I beat him with a gun, mowed down with machine gun fire in order to destroy the fascists more and bring the end of the war closer in order to see you, my dear. But my dreams did not come true ...

The tank shakes from enemy strikes, but we are still alive. No shells, cartridges are running out. Paul hits the enemy with aimed fire, and I “rest,” I talk to you. I know this is the last time. And I want to talk for a long, long, but no time.

Do you remember how we said goodbye when I was escorted to the station? You then doubted my words that I would love you forever. She offered to sign me to belong to you all my life. I willingly fulfilled your request. You have your passport, and I have a stamp on my receipt that we are husband and wife. It's good. It is good to die when you know that there is a person close to you there, he remembers me, thinks, loves. "Well loved to be ..."

Through the holes of the tank, I see the street, green trees, the flowers in the garden are bright and bright. You, the survivors, after the war, life will be as bright, colorful as these flowers, and happy ... It's not scary to die for it ... You do not cry. You probably will not come to my grave, and will it be a grave?

28th of June 1941


A letter of the tanker Ivan Kolosov to the bride Vara Zhuravleva

25th of October 1941

Hello, my cooking!

No, we will not meet with you.

Yesterday, at noon, we smashed another Hitler column. The fascist shell struck the side armor and exploded inside. While I was driving the car to the forest, Vasily died. My wound is cruel.

I buried Vasily Orlov in a birch grove. It was light. Vasily died, without having managed to say a single word to me, did not convey anything to his beautiful Zoya and white-haired Masha, who looked like a dandelion in the fluff.

This is how one of the three tankers remained.

In the sunshine I rode into the forest. The night passed in agony, a lot of blood was lost. Now, for some reason, the pain that burns through the whole chest has subsided and is quiet on the soul.

It's a shame that we have not done everything. But we did everything we could. Our comrades will chase the enemy, who should not walk in our fields and forests.

I would never have lived this life if it were not for you, Varya. You have always helped me: at Khalkhin Gol and here. Probably, after all, who loves is kinder to people. Thank you, dear! A person is aging, and the sky is always young, like your eyes, which you can only look at and admire. They will never age, do not fade.

It will take time, people will heal wounds, people will build new cities, grow new gardens. Another life will come, other songs will be sung. But never forget the song about us, about the three tankers.

You will grow beautiful children, you will still love.

And I am happy to leave you with great love for you.

Your Ivan Kolosov


The letter was handed to Varvara Petrovna Zhuravleva in 1971 year ...
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  1. Snoop
    Snoop 24 July 2013 06: 51 New
    13
    This is the difference from the war in the West. That in the year 40, that in 44-45 years.
    1. svp67
      svp67 24 July 2013 11: 11 New
      +7
      Quote: Snoop
      This is the difference from the war in the West. That in the year 40, that in 44-45 years.
      And also due to the fact that according to grandfather’s stories, the Germans very often burned our tankmen alive next to the tanks ... they hated to such an extent.
    2. Mitek
      Mitek 24 July 2013 23: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Snoop
      This is the difference from the war in the West. That in the year 40, that in 44-45 years.

      this is what should be included in history books ...
  2. Humen
    Humen 24 July 2013 07: 15 New
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    Glory to the heroes. It is a pity now they are dishonored and are trying to reduce their feat or even turn it over.
    1. Gari
      Gari 24 July 2013 11: 59 New
      +4
      Quote: Humen
      Glory to the heroes. It is a pity now they are dishonored and are trying to reduce their feat or even turn it over.

      At the beginning of the Second World War, the T-34 tank showed complete superiority over German tanks and was the main Soviet combat vehicle. Many of the technical solutions underlying its design became classic and were used by foreign engineers, and the Germans applied the hull form to their Panther. By June 22, 1942 1225 T-34 tanks were produced. A huge merit in increasing the production of tanks in the country, improving their combat characteristics during the war belongs to the people's commissars: tank industry - V.A. Malyshev, weapons - D.F. Ustinov, ferrous metallurgy - I.F. Tevosyan, as well as directors of tank plants , designers and scientists, workers, employees, engineers and technicians who have made a worthy contribution to the achievement of Victory.
      1. Gari
        Gari 24 July 2013 12: 02 New
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        I am proud that the Great Victory was also brought closer by my compatriots, the famous tank soldiers of Armenian nationality. This is a well-known military leader, one of the two main marshals of armored forces in the USSR, Hero of the Soviet Union Amazasp Khachaturovich Babadzhanyan, who passed the combat path from the commander of the 3rd mechanized brigade to the head of the tank forces of the Soviet Army.
        Officers of the Armenian tankers in the Soviet Army after the Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians were 1025 people.
        All forged the Great Victory
  3. Zerstorer
    Zerstorer 24 July 2013 07: 32 New
    +9
    Article +. And I ask the author to be more careful:

    "On August 19, 1941, in the area of ​​the Voyskovitsa state farm in the Leningrad Region, 5 (instead of 11) tanks of an understaffed 3rd company under the command of Kolobanov destroyed 43 enemy tanks, including the famous Tigers, losing only 1 (one) of their own."
    Tigers in 1941?
    1. Matroskin
      Matroskin 24 July 2013 08: 58 New
      +5
      Cant however. The first “Tigers” appeared under the Mga station on August 29, 1941. And Kolobanov could not face them in that battle.
      1. Matroskin
        Matroskin 24 July 2013 09: 21 New
        +3
        Fu you chickpeas sealed -1942
        1. carbofo
          carbofo 24 July 2013 22: 11 New
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          It was true that in 1941 they were not there, but Kolobanov survived that battle and went through the whole war, so probably he had in mind the tiger he had knocked out in further battles.
          1. Svyatoslavovich
            Svyatoslavovich 24 July 2013 23: 44 New
            +1
            Kolobanov unfortunately was seriously wounded, a little later on September 15 in the city of Pushkin, after which until the end of the war he was treated first in Leningrad and then in Sverdlovsk, but after the war he returned to the army and served in Germany.
  4. Alexanderlaskov
    Alexanderlaskov 24 July 2013 07: 53 New
    10
    Many thanks to the author. I read in one breath.
    Honor and glory to our dear Veterans!
  5. NKVD
    NKVD 24 July 2013 08: 42 New
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    I have one question. Why aren’t the names of these Heroes the streets, planes, ships? They thought of calling Kadyrov Street in Moscow
    1. atomic
      atomic 24 July 2013 09: 40 New
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      And in the Kremlin they reward other * heroes *, penkin, moiseev.kadyrov
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 24 July 2013 19: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: NKVD
      I have one question. Why aren’t the names of these Heroes the streets, planes, ships? They thought of calling Kadyrov Street in Moscow

      AND WHY the website splash screen shows Messerschmitt Bf109 (if I am mistaken, please correct), was it really impossible to take ANOTHER screenshot from the "toy"?
      1. Bronis
        Bronis 24 July 2013 21: 14 New
        +1
        Quote: Corsair
        The website splash screen shows Messerschmitt Bf109

        Seems to be yes. And in the background is the American Mustang, in my opinion. This is not a screen shot, but a substrate (like wallpaper). What was approved with the customer - then it is necessary to hang up. The harsh reality of the existence of the site ...
    3. valerii41
      valerii41 2 August 2013 20: 33 New
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      They are named after all; In every regional center, certainly Zhukova Park, in each district city Zhukov Park, look at the map in any city with a population of 100 thousand people, there is Zhukov Park, that is, some Zhukovs over ten thousand
  6. ed65b
    ed65b 24 July 2013 09: 13 New
    +9
    post the article on the main sites of the world media. Let them read and remember that we have remained the same as our grandfathers and the aggressor will have one end - we have them in the capital. I have no doubt that our spirit is not messing with anything it is the spirit of the great warriors.
    1. rodevaan
      rodevaan 25 July 2013 02: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: ed65b
      post the article on the main sites of the world media. Let them read and remember that we have remained the same as our grandfathers and the aggressor will have one end - we have them in the capital. I have no doubt that our spirit is not messing with anything it is the spirit of the great warriors.


      - And do not doubt it right! Despite all the mess that is happening with the country today and for all this fabulous pile of garbage croaking on the people and their exploits - a simple Russian man - he remained the same as his great ancestors. And ordinary soldiers in Chechnya, on the Tajik-Afghan border, and in other hot spots, have repeatedly proved this!
      And if the zapadoid reptiles climb again - we will prove again, as well as centuries before!

      Never will a Russian person be a cowardly westoid mess! It is not our mentality to drop weapons due to a lack of chocolate and toilet paper.
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 25 July 2013 02: 46 New
        +1
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        1. studentmati
          studentmati 25 July 2013 03: 05 New
          +1
          Yunus-Bek Evkurov set a good example! good
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 25 July 2013 03: 09 New
            +1
            Yes, ours then pulled the amers to their full height.
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 25 July 2013 03: 12 New
              +1
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              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 25 July 2013 03: 14 New
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                1. studentmati
                  studentmati 25 July 2013 03: 19 New
                  +1
                  Here is a worthy character for teaching the history of modern Russia in schools, not a Rhine soldier ..., etc. etc.
                2. Thunderbolt
                  Thunderbolt 25 July 2013 03: 22 New
                  +2
                  Medal “To the participant of the march of June 12, 1999, Bosnia-Kosovo”
                  The participants of the “Cast to Pristina” and those participating in its preparation were awarded the specially established medal “To the participant of the march-throw June 12, 1999 Bosnia-Kosovo”.
  7. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 24 July 2013 09: 48 New
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    This is not a people but crazy honesty. My grandfather didn’t stop the German tank with a crowbar and put the crew down. The Germans had some light tanks with electric roofing felts, some roofing felts were some, and the generator on the back was simply covered with a net and they were told that if it was disabled the tank would stop. The German crushed the cannon and, having lost speed, began to climb the parapet, the grandfather jumped on the tank and scraped the generator, the tank became a crowbar. Then the regiment commander described this incident in detail in his memoirs. This is how the Guard Sergeant Cossack G.S. Savchenko. He received a medal for courage in 1941. I appeal to all the freaks of the world better your mother don’t touch us otherwise we ourselves are scared that will happen to you
    1. omsbon
      omsbon 24 July 2013 10: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: kapitan281271
      . I appeal to all the freaks of the world better your mother don’t touch us otherwise we ourselves are scared that will happen to you

      BRAVO !!! +++++
    2. UzRus
      UzRus 24 July 2013 11: 07 New
      +8
      I appeal to all the freaks of the world better your mother don’t touch us otherwise we ourselves are scared that will happen to you - Post on the main sites of the world media!
    3. ben gun
      ben gun 24 July 2013 11: 24 New
      +4
      Well said! good
    4. carbofo
      carbofo 24 July 2013 23: 03 New
      +2
      The thirst for profit bends the brain away completely, so I think we still have to prove more than once that we don’t have to go where the coolest soldiers from all over the world die, it’s not for you to bomb Yugoslavia.
      We have 140 million in rubbish ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ...
      Then the Apache Indians seem childish horror stories.
    5. sergey1972
      sergey1972 25 July 2013 02: 11 New
      +2
      Captain, you said everything correctly :-). But the fact is that all the worlds have already understood that direct military aggression against us is a priori defeat for the aggressor. Therefore, the methods of all the freaks against us have changed. Americans, for example, have precisely noticed the peculiarity of the Russian spirit (namely the spirit) and developed, and today are developing methods to eradicate the Russian spirit, waging an ideological war against us, trying to replace our moral values ​​and principles with false concepts of good and evil, of the superiority of the individual over everything else.
      1. rodevaan
        rodevaan 25 July 2013 03: 00 New
        +1
        Sergey, you are absolutely right! BUT!

        - As they say, we’ve been buried for 1000 years by various “methods”, but as a result, we ourselves bury each of these unfortunate undertakers in turn. It is absolutely true that now the war against us has taken other forms and methods, and they are no longer fighting with tanks and guns — but with zombies, Satanids, rezunami, Novodvorsky, and other kinds of rubbish that constantly litter the brains of Russian people with all kinds of vicious derby Mom - individualism, selfishness, cosmopolitanism, hatred for one’s country and one’s people, hatred for one’s great history, one’s ancestors, contempt for veterans, whom all this parasitizing and feeding in the State Department trash calls “stupid scoops” , we are inculcated with some idiotic and dumb complex of guilt for being Russian, and so on ...
        And you know what I noticed? People are tired of this already! If in the 90s all this der was hawed by ladles, now all this propaganda diarrhea only annoys people more and more!
        And it pleases! I am glad that more and more of our compatriots understand that what is being thrown and diarrhea is thrown back to the Westoids and their local henchmen, cryoprotectors ...

        Nothing comes of these reptiles! The Russian person always had a pure mind, and a good memory - this is in our mentality, which cannot be etched by any derma that is alien to us! Let them know.
    6. German
      German 25 July 2013 04: 01 New
      +1
      the last phrase is just PPC! as much as the soul sings! these would be words
      Yes, at the gates of the White House or Ali in the main office of the European Union ...
    7. valerii41
      valerii41 2 August 2013 21: 22 New
      0
      These were Czech tanks 35t and 38t, weight about 10 tons. They had one more property in spring and autumn, all equipment freezes to the ground, these tanks could not move in the morning. Our marshals from Zhukov to Babajanyan drew the weight of these tanks as much as 38 tons and lied to more than 28 tons. I agree scary with you when they lie
  8. Alez
    Alez 24 July 2013 09: 52 New
    +9
    Glory to the heroes. It is necessary to educate young people on such examples. Turn on the box, propaganda CONSUMPTION, BL ... TVA, gaskets and dandruff - Goebels is resting. Where is the State Policy of Patriotism, Healthy Living ???????
    1. valerii41
      valerii41 2 August 2013 21: 32 New
      +1
      A relative, a student in archaeological affairs, young people in Ukraine went in for sports without any state programs, and our sports equipment has a beer bottle unfortunately
  9. Hort
    Hort 24 July 2013 09: 59 New
    +5
    Here are more such articles, so that young people not only know about the heroism of Fritz Witmann (although he was an enemy, but skillfully looted allies), but first and foremost in detail - about their Warriors!
  10. omsbon
    omsbon 24 July 2013 10: 14 New
    +7
    In memory of the fight Z.G. Kolobanov, in which he knocked out 22 German tanks, not far from the battlefield, this IS-2 was installed.
    The photo was taken 21.07.13/XNUMX/XNUMX passed by and stopped to look.
  11. Corsair
    Corsair 24 July 2013 10: 18 New
    +4
    Quote from the article:
    The most productive tanker Dmitry Lavrinenko managed to kill just 2,5 of the month in the 1941 year, but during that time he managed to destroy the enemy’s 52 tank - a result that no one in the Red Army could surpass until the end of the war.
    Clickable Image:
    Battle Leaf
    1. AK-47
      AK-47 24 July 2013 19: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: Corsair
      Most productive tanker Dmitry Lavrinenko

      The brave tanker spent his last battle on December 18 at the approaches to Volokolamsk, near the village of Goryuny. Attacking the enemy who broke through our positions, he destroyed his 52nd German tank, 2 anti-tank guns and up to fifty German soldiers. On the same day, after the battle, Senior Lieutenant Dmitry Fedorovich Lavrinenko was hit by a mine fragment. For two and a half months of fierce fighting, the hero-tanker took part in 28 battles and destroyed 52 Nazi tanks. He became the most productive tanker in the Red Army but did not become a Hero. December 22 was awarded the Order of Lenin. Already in peacetime, numerous representations for the hero’s award at the highest levels (Marshal Katukov, Army General Lelyushenko) had an effect on the bureaucratic routine. By a decree of the President of the USSR of May 5, 1990, Dmitry Fyodorovich was awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union posthumously for courage and heroism shown in battles with Nazi invaders Lavrinenko.
  12. Stas57
    Stas57 24 July 2013 10: 36 New
    0
    Tank KV-1, shot from anti-aircraft guns

    why from anti-aircraft guns?
    88 pierced the armor of KV, photo below
    and here are the marks of another weapon
    1. maxvet
      maxvet 24 July 2013 11: 25 New
      0
      probably meant a small-caliber anti-aircraft machine — I don’t remember the author (from the Germans) described the result of the KV tank firing with a 20 mm anti-aircraft machine - according to him, there was such a rumble in the tank that the tankers climbed out shell-shocked, with bloodied ears
      1. Stas57
        Stas57 24 July 2013 14: 10 New
        0
        Well, there is clearly not 20mm in the photo.
    2. bif
      bif 24 July 2013 22: 34 New
      0
      there is a wonderful book by Robert Kershaw "1941 year through the eyes of the Germans. Birch crosses instead of Iron" ... there are described all these heroic cases from the article, including this one with the KV tank .. and many others.
  13. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 24 July 2013 10: 59 New
    +5
    Eternal memory to the Heroes. Thank you for speaking Russian.
    1. ben gun
      ben gun 24 July 2013 11: 26 New
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      "Eternal memory to the Heroes. Thank you for speaking Russian."
      And do not drink Bavarian as some reptiles would like
      1. Andrey77
        Andrey77 24 July 2013 13: 24 New
        -12
        You already speak Caucasian-Tajik. Are you against good Bavarian beer? Teetotaler?
  14. sv100year
    sv100year 24 July 2013 11: 22 New
    +2
    The second most successful was the hero of the Finnish war, senior lieutenant Zinovy ​​Grigorievich Kolobanov. On August 19, 1941, in the area of ​​the Voyskovitsy state farm in the Leningrad Region, 5 (instead of 11) tanks of an understaffed 3rd company under the command of Kolobanov destroyed 43 enemy tanks, including the famous Tigers, losing only 1 (one) of their own. Well, what are the "tigers" in August 1941. , Trumps themselves for ridicule all sorts of Latin give.
    1. valerii41
      valerii41 2 August 2013 21: 55 New
      0
      Tigers appeared in 1942 near Leningrad. In one ambush battle, the German Tiger destroyed a T34 column of 35 pieces. German tanker explained; The Tigers still had a commander’s cupola on the main tower, as can be seen in the photographs, leaning out with binoculars, he saw much more and even internal communication. This had its advantages. Our tankers were completely sealed in armor and they didn’t understand that they were being shot. for this battle were rewards.
  15. makst83
    makst83 24 July 2013 11: 44 New
    +1
    It is very sad and sad that Dmitry Fyodorovich Lavrinenko, and many others, did not live to the victorious May of 1945 and did not roll to the Reichstag on his T-34! And then Wittman, Carius and others would nervously smoke aside!
  16. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 24 July 2013 11: 53 New
    +2
    They fought not for their uncle - but for their own, for the idea. That’s the difference, I don’t want to die for uncle, but for a friend, for those who were behind my beloved there, so that trouble would not come to them.
    Thanks guys, thanks soldiers.
  17. Andrey77
    Andrey77 24 July 2013 12: 59 New
    -8
    "At the end of June 1941, the 6th Wehrmacht Panzer Division fought with the only KV tank for two days. Four Soviet tankmen against the Raus battle group, which included the 4nd Tank Regiment, the I / 76th Motorized Regiment, and the II / 57th Artillery Regiment , company of the 41th tank sapper battalion, company of the 411st battalion of tank destroyers, battery of the II / 6th anti-aircraft regiment, XNUMXth motorcycle battalion! "
    -
    Does the author of this article seriously believe in this bike?

    "The tanker of the 12th tank division of the Wehrmacht, Hans Becker recalls ..."
    -
    Link please? For example, on remember.ru there they publish interviews with already elderly soldiers of the Wehrmacht. Moreover, the specific tanker Hans Becker is indicated. But is he a tanker? Author, do you check the article before publication?
    1. svp67
      svp67 24 July 2013 13: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: Andrey77
      Does the author of this article seriously believe in this bike?
      Yes, even if this crew of a SINGLE tank did not allow a platoon of German tanks to advance - he is already HERO, if all our crews fought like that, then the Germans would be stopped at the "old" border
      1. Andrey77
        Andrey77 24 July 2013 13: 14 New
        -3
        If yes, if only ... You did not serve in the army, otherwise you would have known that the main direction of the strike is actually chosen. And even more so, there was no such unit as the "separate platoon of tanks" in the Wehrmacht.
        1. svp67
          svp67 24 July 2013 13: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: Andrey77
          If yes, if only ...

          In military planning, all issues must be taken into account, even these, at least in the form of "Plan B"

          Quote: Andrey77
          You did not serve in the army, otherwise you would know that the main direction of the strike is actually chosen
          Yes, 29 served in the army for years and did not notice ... And for your information, the commander appoints the "direction of the strike", by order. And which one he wakes up, the main one or not very much depends on the success of the operation, since the commander’s main skill is not only in the ability to choose the offensive site, but more in timely maneuver by forces and means, to achieve complete success over the enemy, that is, to be in time to feel and understand where success has been outlined and ahead of the enemy, build up efforts there.
          Quote: Andrey77
          And even more so, there was no such unit as the "separate platoon of tanks" in the Wehrmacht.
          Something I don’t remember, where my name sounded ...
          1. Andrey77
            Andrey77 24 July 2013 13: 30 New
            -8
            Yes, he served in the army for 29 years and didn’t notice ..
            --
            Noticeably.

            And for your information, the "direction of the strike" is assigned by the commander, by order.
            --
            Eyes up. I wrote "the direction of the blow is actually chosen." Or did the brain stop working in 29 years of drinking? svp, the forum is a smart person, but here such nonsense ...
            1. svp67
              svp67 24 July 2013 15: 53 New
              +1
              Quote: Andrey77
              Or, over 29 years of booze, the brain stopped working?

              You demand respect for yourself, but you BROKE. I do not want to say that I am a peanut and a teetotaler, but I tried never to abuse alcohol. So I have no problems with this.
            2. Aleks tv
              Aleks tv 24 July 2013 17: 17 New
              0
              Quote: Andrey77
              Noticeably.

              Quote: Andrey77
              Or, over 29 years of booze, the brain stopped working? svp

              They chose a fig topic, about 29 years to mock ...
              negative
              And goggling in front of the monitor is a very bold occupation.
              You are just a hero ...

              Read your comments below,
              it turns out to be the most intelligent ...

              Tip: somehow go to the tank and touch it with your finger, immediately half of the worldview will change. Exactly, try it.
              1. svp67
                svp67 24 July 2013 19: 43 New
                +2
                Quote: Aleks tv
                Tip: somehow go to the tank and touch it with your finger, immediately half of the worldview will change. Exactly, try it.
                You don’t even call the tank a “poke” finger, just wave it with a sledgehammer or work with a crowbar, until bloody corns, pulling on a caterpillar - the memories will remain for a long time ...
                1. Aleks tv
                  Aleks tv 24 July 2013 19: 53 New
                  0
                  Quote: svp67
                  Tank "poke" finger is not even fun to call,


                  Yes, let him even touch ...

                  For example, here, in the Urals, in the same Upper Pyshma, where the armor is broken ...

                  Immediately on the subconscious will be ashamed.
                  And the "such" ones will never be able to pull the ghoul, the hat will not fit the hell - no matter how you try on - it will not work.
        2. svp67
          svp67 24 July 2013 13: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: Andrey77
          And even more so, there was no such unit as the "separate platoon of tanks" in the Wehrmacht.
          And I don’t refuse my words - if every our tank crew at the beginning of the war could stop a German platoon from a tank platoon, and these are 5 tanks, then the Germans would hardly advance further than the "old" border ...
          1. Andrey77
            Andrey77 24 July 2013 13: 45 New
            -8
            if each of our tank crews at the beginning of the war could stop a tank platoon of the Germans, and this is 5 tanks
            --
            And how do you, who served 29 years, imagine this? One against 5. Tell us about the super-abilities of Soviet people, we will listen. Or did you watch a movie with Jackie Chan in 90's?
            1. svp67
              svp67 24 July 2013 15: 54 New
              +4
              Quote: Andrey77
              And how do you, who served 29 years, imagine this? One against 5.

              And then there’s nothing to be imagined, there are documents of that battle.

              At about noon on June 2, one of the KB 24 TD turned to the left and took a position on the road parallel to the direction of the advance of the Zekedorf camp group, being behind the Raus camp group. Ritgen describes it this way: “The KB tank, which reached the north bridge across the Dubissa River, blocked it and broke off contact with the bridgehead captured by the Routh Campfgroup. All attempts to destroy this tank failed, including fire from the 88 mm gun and night sappers. " (David M. Glantz, The initial period of war on the Eastern front 22 June - august 1941, p. 114). Supply vehicles for the Kampfgrupp Raus became the victims of the Soviet tank. This KB became the basis for the legend about the stopped 4 th TGr. The battle log of the 11th Tank Regiment of the 6th TD reads:
              “Kampfgruppa Raus bridgehead has been withheld. Until noon, as a reserve, the reinforced company and headquarters of the 65 tank battalion were pulled back along the left route to the crossroads north-east of Rassenyaya. Meanwhile, the Russian heavy tank blocked the communications of the Kampfgruppa Raus. Because of this, communication with the Campus group Raus was interrupted for the whole afternoon and the following night. 8,8 Flak Battery was sent by the commander to fight this tank. But her actions were just as unsuccessful as the 10.5 cm battery, which fired according to the instructions of a leading observer. In addition, the attempt of an attack group of sappers to undermine the tank failed. It was impossible to get close to the tank due to heavy machine gun fire. ” (Thomas L. Jentz Panzertruppen, Schiffer Military History, Atlegen, PA, page 198,).
              Further, the main opponent of the lone KB in question was the campaign group Zeckedorf. After a night raid by sappers who had just scratched the tank, the second time they were tackled with the help of an 88-mm anti-aircraft gun. The group of tanks 35 (t) distracted KB with its movement, and the calculation of 88 Flack reached six, and according to other sources, twelve hits in the tank. Following the myth of a stopped tank group, the myth of a multi-day siege of one tank fell. KB occupied the supply routes for the Rous campaign group from noon on the 24 of June until the morning of the 25 of June, and until the late evening of the 24 of June, the main concern of the 6-th was a fight with the whole 2-th, and not with one tank.
              http://topwar.ru/27232-starshiy-serzhant-protiv-general-polkovnika.html
            2. svp67
              svp67 24 July 2013 17: 17 New
              +2
              Quote: Andrey77
              And how do you, who served 29 years, imagine this? One against 5. Tell us about the super-abilities of Soviet people, we will listen. Or did you watch a movie with Jackie Chan in 90's?
              Destroy and stop - not synonyms, especially in military affairs. And at the beginning of the war, our new tanks had a very strong advantage in terms of firepower and defense over German tanks, so we had one chance to stop, read, not let us complete the assigned task, a German platoon, it’s another thing that we couldn’t use it .
            3. rodevaan
              rodevaan 25 July 2013 03: 08 New
              +1
              Quote: Andrey77

              And how do you, who served 29 years, imagine this? One against 5. Tell us about the super-abilities of Soviet people, we will listen. Or did you watch a movie with Jackie Chan in 90's?


              - You still didn’t read the “Fritz” memoirs - there are such tales that ours and they do not even stand close! Especially about the T-34 mountains destroyed alone and kilometer accounts. For a bottle of schnapps, and in order to justify themselves to their own population - they write such a thing there ....
      2. m262
        m262 25 July 2013 01: 06 New
        +1
        Well, the article somewhat increased the scale of the battle, but the fact remains, the tank blocked the only road at that time supplying the advanced units of the Raus group and the fight against it was already on the scale of the division, when the KV was shot from 88 mm. anti-aircraft guns, wounded crew continued to shoot with personal weapons and the Nazis could destroy the tank and crew only with subversive charges. The offensive of the tank group, although not for long, but stalled. From such episodes, our VICTORY was formed! Glory to the heroes!
        1. valerii41
          valerii41 2 August 2013 22: 19 New
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          I also read about this incident in my memoirs, Germans do not mention schnapps, the People’s Commissar technical alcohol was given to our hungry soldiers before the attack, and the commissars heated up emotions for Stalin’s
      3. valerii41
        valerii41 2 August 2013 22: 07 New
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        At the beginning of the war, they gave commands to advance somewhere to the West; there were no maps flew into the swamps; the fuel ran out; tanks threw fled and fled. The Germans fought on our tanks and used abandoned artillery shells were provided perfectly
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 24 July 2013 13: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Andrey77
      Does the author of this article seriously believe in this bike?

      And why did you decide that this is a bike?

      It’s a very real situation. Walking around the rear of the HF with a skilled crew is a huge problem. Because he simply had nothing to oppose. Only send mobile tank groups with the task of at least immobilizing it.
      1. Andrey77
        Andrey77 24 July 2013 14: 08 New
        -12
        No documentary evidence. No eyewitness evidence. Everything else is lyrics. There was nothing to oppose? It’s not for me to teach you, but the Germans had excellent anti-aircraft guns. Further prompt?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 24 July 2013 14: 25 New
          +3
          Quote: Andrey77
          It’s not for me to teach you, but the Germans had excellent anti-aircraft guns. Further prompt?

          I said that a skilled crew. Why should they climb on 88-graph paper, and even on the 37-mm "door knockers", which at least can knock down a goose?

          There are beautiful rear columns. Trucks, tractor transport. Plus infantry in columns, which can be shot from a safe distance.

          So there is only one option - mobile tank groups, a platoon from reconnaissance battalions on motorcycles ... In short, a big hemorrhoids. And the worst thing, if it "evaporates." It will take a very long time to maintain increased security measures in the area

          Tanks behind enemy lines are a big force. And not only tanks. Remember how Kovpak raped a German punitive caravan with two magpies. Steamboat, 5 barges and armored boat. Similar, albeit on a smaller scale, the SAS men in Greece and Italy soaked.
        2. m262
          m262 25 July 2013 01: 22 New
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          But the memories of the Wehrmacht veterans are not confirmation of you, yes, excuse me, there are no heroes of the tankers, they died in that battle, but the Wehrmacht also kept a military journal, and this episode does not flatten the Raus group. "Beautiful anti-aircraft guns" still need to be withdrawn from the battle and delivered from the front line to the rear to fight our tank, i.e. tear off the main task, or do you think that every German platoon was supported by a battery of 8,8 guns?
  18. ratuld
    ratuld 24 July 2013 13: 34 New
    0
    Grandfathers fought so breathtaking.
    In August 1945, they were preparing for 3-6 months to fight the Japanese.
    The Kwantungs were demolished in 12 days.
    Grandfathers told - they took languages ​​with difficulty. They stifled fists in the head - like the Germans.
    They didn’t inform them alive.
    The evil ones were for Tsushima.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 24 July 2013 13: 52 New
      -13
      Name grandfathers. At least his grandfather, what about all the grandfathers. We’ll check the part where he served and whether he was in Japan. URA-patriots here rolls over ...
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      2. Firstvanguard
        Firstvanguard 26 July 2013 07: 10 New
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        Stop feeding this troll. He's just a troll.
        Py.Sy. My grandfather - Gusev Ivan Vasilievich, fought in total on the fields of the Second World War and not only for almost 7 years. Check and slam the mouth.
  19. ed65b
    ed65b 24 July 2013 14: 09 New
    +4
    andryusha if we start surnames and photos of our grandfathers to spread and 2 of them each and 95% of them fought the site will hang. Just take your word for it. There is an embellishment of events, but compared to the songs of the rewriters, we are children.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 24 July 2013 14: 21 New
      -13
      Not Andrew, but Andrei Gennadievich. We are not personally acquainted. I'm not from the breed that people believe in the word. There is a science called history if you did not know. And this science is based on FACTS. Documented documents. And to take people’s word for word — well, believe me, I don’t forbid it.
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      2. ed65b
        ed65b 24 July 2013 15: 03 New
        +4
        yes what kind of genadievich andryushka babies are you. You need to read the story of the child. But your native Wehrmacht was entirely with balls and chupa chupsami in Russia were.
      3. Bigriver
        Bigriver 24 July 2013 15: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: Andrey77
        ..There is a science called history if you did not know. And this science is based on FACTS. Documented documents.


        Thomas Jentz, in his monograph Panzertruppen, quotes an excerpt from the military journal of the 11th tank regiment of the 6th TD, which describes this battle.
        Does the database journal "roll" to the document? laughing
        In addition, for the Americans (after the war) they wrote about this battle: reserve colonel Helmut Ritgen (in 1941 - adjutant of the battalion commander of the 6th TD) and reserve general Count von Kilmanzeg, who was an officer in the headquarters of the same 6th TD.
        This battle is described in great detail in Erhard Routh’s book, Tank Battles on the Eastern Front. He led the battle with the Rasseinia KV.
        KV stood on the only road between the rear of 6 TD and one of the two battle groups of the division - the Routh group.
        In fact, interrupting the supply, he restrained the advance of 1/2 division.

        PS Not on business You are somehow inflated: //
        Read a book wink
      4. Ghenxnumx
        Ghenxnumx 24 July 2013 15: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: Andrey77
        Are you against good Bavarian beer?

        Quote: Andrey77
        Name grandfathers.
        Quote: ed65b
        andryusha if we start surnames and photos of our grandfathers to spread and 2 of them each and 95% of them fought the site will hang. Just take your word for it.

        Quote: Andrey77
        Not Andrew, but Andrei Gennadievich. We are not personally acquainted. I'm not from the breed that people believe in the word. There is a science called history if you did not know.

        It was only boorish boorishness negative respond adequately good , as he immediately remembered that the site decided to contact you. Edward, well done! hi
        You, a lover of facts, before making fun of facts, would not hurt to familiarize yourself with the subject of the dispute - there are plenty of links on the Internet about these cases and similar ones.
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  20. ratuld
    ratuld 24 July 2013 14: 16 New
    +3
    Burdelev Fedor Rodionovich Burdelev Ivan Rodionovich
    Buravlev Ivan Nikiforovich
    Test yourself for a gonorrhea. Son.
    1. Hort
      Hort 24 July 2013 22: 01 New
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      Test yourself for a gonorrhea. Son.
      with the brain
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  22. super.ufu2013
    super.ufu2013 24 July 2013 14: 34 New
    +1
    one more photo
    Minsk


    Taran


    about the same Lyubushkina and Lvraneneko, who at least once said how he burned down in the tank Lakomov fighting to the last? Everyone forgot, 52 tanks are cooler, someone at least once said how they covered themselves when they left the First Warrior, or who helped in Joy?
    Everyone only joyfully discusses 52 tanks, 22 tanks, 13 tanks, and stas57 in the book has such photos where the Germans and ours burned down in those battles that no one remembers at all, and Shein writes about the loss of 3 German tanks under First warrior
    I do not like this high pathetics when they boast of scores, forgetting the ordinary hard workers.
    1. Ivan_Ivanov
      Ivan_Ivanov 24 July 2013 23: 11 New
      0
      Why are you denying us the right and opportunity to be proud of our ancestors, our warriors?
  23. igordok
    igordok 24 July 2013 14: 34 New
    +2
    Illustrative photo of 1941 year.
    The KV-1 was crushed by the arrogant German staff Horch, but he himself died.
  24. Andrey77
    Andrey77 24 July 2013 14: 34 New
    0
    Well, the article was tweaked. Right away, the author ..
  25. Andrey77
    Andrey77 24 July 2013 14: 39 New
    -13
    The Nazis managed to destroy Soviet heroes only with the help of cunning, from the rear, from an 88-mm anti-aircraft gun
    --
    Recognize the skill of the enemy, the mind does not allow? And not to the Nazis, but to the Wehrmacht. Or are you the entire German army in the Nazis recorded?
    1. GP
      GP 24 July 2013 15: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: Andrey77
      Recognize the skill of the enemy, the mind does not allow? And not to the Nazis, but to the Wehrmacht. Or are you the entire German army in the Nazis recorded?


      The skill of the enemy is recognized. It well emphasizes the skill of our soldiers and officers who defeated them.

      They are all Nazi Nazis, without exception, the others sat at home and did not commit atrocities. The Wehrmacht is a large pile in one osprey of European invaders. All of Europe forcibly fought against the Soviet Union, in its entirety, and only the Wehrmacht is compared with the USSR, a piece with the whole.
      1. Andrey77
        Andrey77 24 July 2013 15: 27 New
        -5
        They are all Nazi Nazis.
        --
        To you to the doctor.
  26. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 24 July 2013 14: 41 New
    +2
    A similar feat in the autumn of 1941 of the year will be accomplished by another T-34 “fire tank”, commanded by senior sergeant Stepan Khristoforovich Gorobets (pictured), on October 17 breaking through the entire fascists occupied Tver, from west to east. Despite the damage from a German projectile hit, a PzKpfw III tank was destroyed during a raid by a ram, several motorcycles, anti-tank rifles, around 20 vehicles and dozens of Nazis (by machine-gun fire and tracks).

    I read a booklet in school years about this feat of tankers. It was written in the style of documentary and really liked then.
    They beat the Germans while there was enough ammunition, and then broke through Kalinin (Tver) in a tank smoked from fires and burning, crushing motorcycles and trucks. Fortunately, the signs on the armor were not visible due to soot, and the Germans did not yet know the T-34s and took them for their own.
    They went through the whole city and broke through to their own, who also could not stop them (by mistake, not knowing the new tank) with the gunfire of the Magpies.
    My neighbor and I were, my grandfather, the whole war was a tankman, burned, but survived.
    Glory to the tankmen !!!
  27. asadov
    asadov 24 July 2013 14: 42 New
    +1
    the most important thing is that our people didn’t care what kind of power (princely, Soviet, imperial, dermocratic). The main thing is to resist and fulfill your duty to the homeland, country, family. At any cost.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 24 July 2013 15: 15 New
      -7
      Well, we do not care now. What did you want to say?
      1. Rider
        Rider 24 July 2013 18: 04 New
        0
        Quote: Andrey77
        Well, we do not care now.


        VAM - yes.

        but don’t talk about everyone else (those)

        .
      2. m262
        m262 25 July 2013 01: 34 New
        +1
        If he were to return to 1941, he would join the Hitler Jugend ???
  28. ikrut
    ikrut 24 July 2013 14: 50 New
    +4
    Quote: Stas57
    Tank KV-1, shot from anti-aircraft guns

    why from anti-aircraft guns?
    88 penetrated KV armor

    88mm gun was an anti-aircraft gun. And it was only she who could guaranteed (in the early days of the war) break through the armor of the HF.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 24 July 2013 15: 09 New
      -7
      Exactly. If you are interested, the 88mm FLAK Service Manual :)
      An American document, you won’t get anything like this from our scoop ...
      By the way, there are also shooting tables ...

      http://www.lexpev.nl/downloads/tme9369agerman88mmgun.pdf
    2. Stas57
      Stas57 24 July 2013 15: 16 New
      +1
      I said this about it.
      Flak holes will leave, not dents
      1. Andrey77
        Andrey77 24 July 2013 15: 22 New
        0
        He said everything correctly. For doubters, a link to the manual already led to the anti-aircraft gun.
  29. za VDV
    za VDV 24 July 2013 16: 10 New
    0
    Glory to our grandfathers! What now? Slowly forgets the World about the exploits! The Americans generally said that with their help they won the war, that they played a big role in the victory ... Yes, the world is simply envious of the spirit of the Russian soldier! soldier
  30. galiullinrasim
    galiullinrasim 24 July 2013 16: 14 New
    0
    Yes, the fascist knew how, yes, he knew how, but ours weaned him because of this, and thank them twice. That's an hour the army is sprinkled by anyone and a lot of things are right, but if something happens, all the shit will float away and the steel will remain. and let’s take our salvation. there are real soldiers in the army and a lot. for the article, thanks to the tiger or the anti-aircraft gun, the tiger is not the tiger; well, there is a typo and a mistake, as they say, to the old woman.
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  32. za VDV
    za VDV 24 July 2013 16: 19 New
    +1
    MIIIIIR READ AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE VALUITY of our RUSSIAN TANKISTS!


    Quote: za VDV
    On a sunny day of July 3, on July 1941, the city of Minsk, already a week as captured by the fascists, slowly entered the Soviet tank. Lonely, already intimidated by the Germans, passers-by hurriedly pressed against the houses — a huge three-turreted armored car crawled along the streets of the city, thickened by four machine-guns, slowly pulling the barrel of a short cannon.

    Hitler's soldiers were not at all afraid of the Soviet tank - in those days there were already a lot of captured armored vehicles in Verkhmakhta. A cheerful German cyclist rode in front of the tank for a while, slowly pushing the pedals. The driver mechanic pressed the gas harder, the tank jerked forward and smeared the hapless cyclist on the pavement - you see, he was just tired of the tank crews. But the few Germans who smoked on the porch, they did not touch - did not want to open themselves ahead of time.



    Finally arrived at the distillery. Not in the sense of "finally" that would drink, but in the sense that they found the goal. Leisurely, thorough Germans loaded boxes of alcohol into the truck. Nearby missed armored car. The first could not stand Nicholas in the right turret - meters from fifty vzharil on the truck with a machine gun. Seryoga in the left also pressed the trigger. The major bit his lip - the very first accurate shot turned an armored car into a pile of metal and turned the fire on the infantry. In a few minutes it was all over. Completing the picture of the defeat of Sergeant Malko held a tank on the remnants of the truck.

    Apparently - the Germans still did not understand what was happening in the city. Nobody pursued tank neatly moved the river Svisloch along a wooden bridge - almost 30 tons is not a joke - and crawled to the market. A convoy of motorcyclists went to meet T-28 - exactly the same as they would be shown in movies in 20 years - happy, forceful, self-confident. Gray snake wrapped around the tank on the left. Having missed several crews behind the hull of the tank, the major sharply hit the mechvod on the left shoulder, and he threw the tank straight into the column. There was a terrible screech and screams. The rear machine gun from the head tower hit the back of the head of the motorcyclists who had time to rush, panic began on the road. The turrets of diesel fuel were poured with fire by the Nazis in the middle and at the end of the column, which pale Malko pressed and pressed the levers, grinding people and motorcycles with an iron mass. Sweat flowed from under the helmet and poured his eyes - two weeks earlier, he, past Spain, Khalkhin Gol, Poland and Finland, could not even imagine what would fall into such a meat grinder.
  33. ed65b
    ed65b 24 July 2013 16: 19 New
    +1
    the other day I read the memoirs of Heinrich Metelmann “through hell for Hitler” to an ordinary Wehrmacht tanker from the Crimea to Stalingrad and vice versa. I advise reading to lovers of the glorious Wehrmacht.
  34. silver_roman
    silver_roman 24 July 2013 16: 35 New
    +3
    kapets, I read the letters of our soldiers and already tears welling. What GREAT people were after all ... though they did not know about it. As many of us born in the new state, under a different flag, in different conditions, do not know now. But the fact remains: we are the ancestors of the great people from the GREAT state. To honor their memory - to respect themselves - these are synonyms. By God, I would be ashamed to look into their eyes !!!
    I’m even scared for the generation that is growing now. instead of Kolobanov and Kozhedub, Sylvester Stalone and Bruce Willis. And ours - the true heroes of 99 percent and do not know! Insulting and sad!
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 24 July 2013 18: 12 New
      -10
      We are the ancestors of a great nation from a GREAT state

      Do you mean the Russian Empire or the USSR? And what kind of people are these? The people of a cow happen. Better to say the population.
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman 24 July 2013 18: 20 New
        +1
        by itself the USSR. and I didn’t hear about the cows either. you apparently were mistaken by a forum. there are few specialists in animal husbandry. population: the Chinese also inhabit our lands, but they cannot be attributed to our people. so it’s BETTER for you to remain unconvinced!
      2. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow 24 July 2013 21: 36 New
        +3
        Are you a crappy little man
      3. svp67
        svp67 24 July 2013 21: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: Andrey77
        The people of a cow happen. Better to say the population.
        Well, I see you are a major specialist in animal husbandry. The population is not yet a people, it is just a certain number of people inhabiting a certain area. But when they begin to act together in a difficult environment, they become a people. Captured and surrendered - the population, fighting and dying or winning - already the people ...
  35. ed65b
    ed65b 24 July 2013 16: 37 New
    +1
    continuation. So the broomstick had to fight on the captured T34, and he speaks very well of nm and writes about the desperate heroism of the Russians.
  36. RPD
    RPD 24 July 2013 18: 14 New
    -1
    all fans pick their dirty finger in history (10 tanks, 5 tanks. knocked out not knocked out) should be planted on a stake
  37. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 24 July 2013 19: 15 New
    0
    Quote: Andrey77
    We are the ancestors of a great nation from a GREAT state

    Do you mean the Russian Empire or the USSR? And what kind of people are these? The people of a cow happen. Better to say the population.

    in your head okroshka instead of brains
  38. AK-47
    AK-47 24 July 2013 19: 23 New
    +2
    “On the Eastern Front, I met people who can be called a special race .... The tankers of the Red Army were tempered in the crucible of war, their skills grew immeasurably.

    Well, isn't that a special race.
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 24 July 2013 19: 33 New
      +4
      Quote: AK-47
      Well, isn't that a special race.


      Special.
      And not everyone will go there, because in this race, they don’t give out gingerbread to those who enter ...

      And the article is not just about heroes, but about real professionals.
      They not only knew how to fight, but also were able to do it - use weapons as efficiently as possible.
      Not everyone succeeded, one desire is not enough ...
      The deepest respect.
    2. svp67
      svp67 24 July 2013 22: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: AK-47
      Well, isn't that a special race.

      Konstantin Simonov


      Tank

      Here he went. Trenches three rows.
      Chain of wolf holes with oak bristles.
      Here is the trail where he backed away when
      He was blown caterpillars mine.

      But there was no doctor under the arm,
      And he got up, suffering from lameness,
      Broken iron dragging
      Crouching on a wounded leg.

      Here it is, breaking like a ram,
      Circles crawled on their own trail
      And collapsed, weak from wounds,
      Having bought infantry a difficult victory.

      By dawn, in soot, in dust,
      Came still smoking tanks
      And together decided in the depths of the earth
      Bury his iron remains.

      He seemed to ask not to bury,
      Even in a dream, he saw yesterday's battle,
      He rested, he had strength
      He also threatened with his broken tower.

      So that it was visible far away,
      We poured a mound above it
      Beating a star plywood on a pole -
      Over the battlefield is a feasible monument.

      When would the monument be told to me
      To raise to all those who perished here in the desert
      I'd be on a granite hewn wall
      Put the tank with the sockets empty;

      I would dig it as it is,
      In holes, in torn iron sheets, -
      Nevayuschaya military honor
      There are in these scars, in charred wounds.

      Climbing high onto a pedestal
      Let, as a witness, confirm by right:
      Yes, victory was not easy for us.
      Yes, the enemy was brave.
      All the more our fame.

      1939
  39. avia12005
    avia12005 24 July 2013 22: 35 New
    0
    Most of all I would like to put in 1941 one crew on the m-26 gozman, Svanidze, Fedotov and send them to meet Guderian. And to put behind the detachment VET. Then they certainly wouldn't want to lie. Just couldn't am
  40. nnz226
    nnz226 24 July 2013 23: 22 New
    +1
    AFTER MARCH

    The sun armor is hot
    And dust trekking on clothes.
    Pull the jumpsuit off the shoulder -
    And in the shade, in the grass, but only before
    Check the engine and sunroof open:
    Let the car cool down.
    We will carry everything with you -
    We are people, and it is steel ...
    1944
    Sergey Orlov

    In the appendage from another poet:
    "Nails would make of these people!
    It wouldn’t be stronger in the world of nails! "
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 24 July 2013 23: 23 New
      +4
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      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 24 July 2013 23: 38 New
        +2
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  41. sokrat-71
    sokrat-71 24 July 2013 23: 31 New
    +1
    Eternal memory to heroes!
  42. volan
    volan 25 July 2013 01: 11 New
    +1
    Ah guys! Only tears welling up .. You would live and live! Thank you for the victory!
  43. Alex 241
    Alex 241 25 July 2013 01: 20 New
    +1
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  44. Alex 241
    Alex 241 25 July 2013 01: 21 New
    0
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  45. Alex 241
    Alex 241 25 July 2013 01: 21 New
    +1
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    1. studentmati
      studentmati 25 July 2013 01: 37 New
      +1
      The fortress of the Russian spirit in World War II is a wonderful example for the Syrian army in the war against corrupt mercenaries!
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 25 July 2013 01: 44 New
        0
        Here is Sash, in the center of the fighter who first hoisted the banner of victory on the Reichstag.
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 25 July 2013 01: 45 New
          0
          Mercenaries have two options: either
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 25 July 2013 01: 46 New
            +1
            Or so ......................
            1. studentmati
              studentmati 25 July 2013 01: 50 New
              +1
              For mercenaries the second photo is longer correct.

              Quote: Alex 241
              Here is Sash, in the center of the fighter who first hoisted the banner of victory on the Reichstag


              Egorov?
  46. Alex 241
    Alex 241 25 July 2013 01: 52 New
    +1
    No Sasha, I don’t remember his name for sure, but he did not receive any awards. He drank and committed suicide.
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 25 July 2013 01: 57 New
      0
      I agree that the version of Egorov-Kantaria is the official ...
      And photos from what sources?
  47. Alex 241
    Alex 241 25 July 2013 02: 02 New
    0
    Google Sash, I just watched a movie about the fate of this man. Now I'm trying to find.
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 25 July 2013 02: 07 New
      +1
      Or maybe still Egorov. He was my fellow countryman and on our earth there was a lot of talk about him. He died in a car accident, the official version of the death ... Although only the state archive knows the answer to the question ...
  48. Alex 241
    Alex 241 25 July 2013 02: 10 New
    0
    Grigory Bulatov is short, he is the smallest in the platoon. In the Reichstag, Lieutenant Koshkarbayev planted a small soldier with a banner in his hands on the windowsill and said: “Put it, Bulatov!” It was April 30 at 14 hours 25 minutes ...
    07.05.2013

    "Military album"



    The reconnaissance platoon of the 674th Infantry Regiment of the 150th Infantry Division is photographed on the steps of the Reichstag. Not only in this photo, but also in many other photographs taken in the May days of 1945 in Berlin, you can see the same beautiful, young faces of confident and cheerful people, hung with machine guns, pistols, grenades and orders. They know that the war is ending. They won.

    The army that came to Berlin no longer very much complies with the requirements of the charter in relation to clothing. There is a photo in which two commanders of two regiments in May 1945 pose in padded jackets, and on the head of one of them for some reason there is a small white hat. In this photo, the reconnaissance platoon commander, Lieutenant Semyon Sorokin, stands on the steps of the Reichstag, also far from the statutory requirements, with a leather SS coat. In the foreground is the Red Army soldier Grigory Bulatov, he is in a quilted jacket. On April 30, 1945, Bulatov, along with nine other reconnaissance platoon soldiers (the tenth, Pyotr Dolgikh, was killed in the square) burst into the Reichstag and put a red flag on the ground floor window.

    A few hours before, sitting in some German ruin near the city center, Lieutenant Rakhimzhan Koshkarbaev, having slandered his chemical pencil, printed in red letters on the former German feather bed, by the way, his last name, the last name of the Red Army man sitting next to him and the number of the regiment and divisions.

    Grigory Bulatov is short, he is the smallest in the platoon. In the Reichstag, Lieutenant Koshkarbayev planted a small soldier with a banner in his hands on the windowsill and said: “Put it, Bulatov!” It was April 30 at 14 p.m. 25 minutes. And now, when everything is already behind, a guy from the village of Slobodskaya lost in the Vyatka forests Grisha Bulatov with a quiet, serious and pensive face is standing in the center of Berlin, with his gun down behind his back, trunk down. Here Sash found.
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 25 July 2013 02: 12 New
      +1
      There is no one-minute schedule that takes into account the appearance of numerous banners in the windows of the Reichstag shot through. The commanders who wrote the reports were confused in hours and minutes, intentionally or unintentionally indicated different times, the same commander could indicate two different hours in two reports on the same event.

      The commander of the 674th regiment of the 150th rifle division, Lieutenant Colonel Aleksey Plekhodanov (he walked around Berlin in a padded jacket and a hat) on the night of April 29 to 30 told his scouts that the issuance of official banners of the Military Council had begun in the troops. "But this lot did not fall to our regiment." To reconcile with a lot, the regiment commander considered, optionally, scouts can make a banner for themselves. The reconnaissance platoon at that moment was in the building of the Ministry of the Interior, in the office of Himmler. Here in the basement, where the SS men spent the last days, they removed the feather bed from the bed, tidied it up and painted it red. Where did they get the paint from? I don’t know. Also, by the way, a few days later the photographer Evgeny Khaldey acted, who personally found a sickle and a hammer cut from yellow cloth on a red tablecloth and climbed onto the roof of the Reichstag.

      All of them, those who are now standing with bright faces on the steps of the Reichstag, are very young. Bulatov 19, his commander Sorokin - 23, Gabidullin 20, Provotorov (he is on the left in the photo, with the Order of the Patriotic War on his chest) - 24, a little older than Oreshko - he is 26. He is on the right, he has a flashlight on his jacket with which he only that he climbed into the cellars of the Reichstag.

      This is victory. These are the last moments of the war. Then there will be life. Grigory Bulatov, who has such a clean and bright boyish face in the photo, will return home, to his village Slobodskoy, will drink and talk endlessly about the war, will get the nickname Grishka-Reichstag from drinking buddies and will not know where to put three general notebooks into which he recorded his memories. He will try to attach them to some magazine, but they will not be needed anywhere. In 1973, a former intelligence officer Grigory Bulatov, returning from Moscow to celebrate Victory Day, will commit suicide. Where are now three notebooks with his stories about the war, I do not know.
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 25 July 2013 02: 17 New
        +1
        Another fact that makes you want to get to the truth! How interesting it is to study history. And how much this story was presented one-sidedly in our Soviet time ... Let’s dig, it would be time ...
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 25 July 2013 02: 19 New
          0
          [media = http: //vk.com/club38807700? z = video-38807700_162956250 / videos-38807700] April 30, 1945, at 14:25 Moscow time, Grigory Bulatov was the first to put the Victory banner on the Reichstag
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 25 July 2013 02: 20 New
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            1. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt 25 July 2013 02: 32 New
              +2
              http://cczy.livejournal.com/621064.html Вот его могила.
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 25 July 2013 02: 35 New
                +1
                Hi Leshka. Good to see.
                1. Thunderbolt
                  Thunderbolt 25 July 2013 02: 37 New
                  0
                  And I'm glad)))))
              2. studentmati
                studentmati 25 July 2013 02: 42 New
                +1
                Well, is it really soon 70 years of the Great Victory, and we still do not know the whole truth? I think that it's time to set aside secrecy. Another thing is that historians with a capital letter should work with archives, and not individuals working for the sake of a momentary political order.
                It seems to me that we are missing the moment when the Veterans who are able to confirm the Truth are leaving, are almost gone. And then political strategists enter the business?
  49. Alex 241
    Alex 241 25 July 2013 02: 25 New
    0
    [media = http: //vk.com/video-2076090_137759335] ...................................
    .
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 25 July 2013 02: 30 New
      +1
      An error occurs when starting a link? ...
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 25 July 2013 02: 34 New
        0
        I also have Sasha. Apparently a broken link. In short: it is about perpetuating the hero’s memory, and assigning him the title of Hero of Russia. Eternal memory to him.
  50. rodevaan
    rodevaan 25 July 2013 02: 28 New
    +1
    What were the heroes! You read - he takes pride for the country, for belonging to his great people, who had such representatives!

    Here's what to include in history books! This is what young people need to be taught on such heroic examples of the behavior of real people with a capital letter.

    And we all propagate every glamorous garbage, but look from the screens at all kinds of worthless individuals from the category of fifth columns, denigrating and defaming the exploits of our great ancestors who saved the country in those battles .....
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 25 July 2013 02: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: rodevaan
      Here's what to include in history books!
      And we all propagate every glamorous garbage ....


      Everything is in our hands!!! Let's sweep out all this rubbish each at home! Let's start each with his own house, porch, apartment, village, ...
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 25 July 2013 02: 38 New
        +2
        As long as we remember, everyone remembers!
      2. rodevaan
        rodevaan 25 July 2013 03: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: studentmati

        Everything is in our hands!!! Let's sweep out all this rubbish each at home! Let's start each with his own house, porch, apartment, village, ...


        - Speak absolutely correctly! Let’s start, and let us make our contribution to this. And if everyone will do it a little bit, you will immediately see the results! And the problems in the country will be much less.
        I suppose, as an ordinary citizen, I cannot personally influence the activity of the corrupt and corrupt bureaucracy ... BUT! I have other opportunities, albeit modest, but real, to change our society for the better and to resist the der that is pouring on us from zombies. In my power, for example, to behave in life and with other people not in a bestial way, but in a human way and to set an example to others by this behavior. After all, we all know what is good and what is bad. It is my power to communicate and pass on to people - acquaintances and strangers - interesting information about the war, about the exploits of our soldiers, which many did not know about, because it’s not accepted and unprofitable to show this to the zombies, and instead we see only one every day and the same, to death bored bukhye faces of any tithe. In my power, since I have the Internet, write comments and articles on forums showing how smart and skillful a nation we are, how strong, beautiful and hardworking people we are, what we have something to be proud of, that we have a great and unique history, that our state is rich in talents and historical figures of world scale! It is in my power to write, show, expose and ridicule all the corrupt and easy-going rot of all these right-wry-left-defenders, five-columned, and other corrupt goats, sprinkling mud on my great people, my great ancestors. It is in my power to ridicule and act on the minds of the remaining fools who lick the zapadoid’s ass, and creep at these enemies of the country unworthy of us. It is in my power to educate my children in the spirit of kindness, patriotism, a healthy lifestyle, love of sport, work, knowledge, the desire to become self-sufficient, intelligent, well-read people, not to let them turn into a dumb obedient selfish-consuming population as it is in the West.
        The Russian man differs from the Zapadoid in that - he is alive not only by grandmothers, grub and gas prices! He is alive with all those concepts that I have listed above, and which for the Zapadoid are just an empty phrase. All this ostentatious booth called American or Western "patriotism" is a stupid buffoonery, a stupid ritual that must be performed because it is "so customary" and not because the soul so commands. And everything else they have is also "according to the instructions."
        Yes, in fact - in the hands of one person there are many opportunities to change our social circle, and our society for the better - and one of these opportunities is to call on and influence people to live and do the same.
        And if everyone will do the same, you will see how our society will change and how many problems that are plaguing us will disappear.
        1. studentmati
          studentmati 25 July 2013 03: 41 New
          0
          With two hands FOR !!! Your comment!!! good Nobody except us!