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Global dreams surrogate nenki

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The hour is not far off when the Chicks Fahrion and Tyagnybok will begin to measure the skulls of citizens on the subject of the purity of the Ukrainian race with compasses.At one time, historians, in their search for the reasons for the moral and spiritual degradation of Ukrainian politicians, will most likely face a very unique and curious phenomenon in the development of society. To their surprise, it turns out that not only the beautiful half of humanity can be surrogate mothers, but also countries as subjects of the world community. In this case, Ukraine. Moreover, what is remarkable, the evolutionary period of development of this rarest phenomenon was so brief that many treatises of scholars would be devoted to covering and substantiating it.


December 1991 of the year. The Last Supper of Traitors in Belovezhskaya Pushcha. While the “best” German and “best” Yankee - Judah Gorbachev - was in ecstasy from the praises of NATO hawks, trying on a Nobel wreath and counting 30 pieces of silver, the three ambitious scoundrels rendered a verdict that put an end to the existence of a great power. A Ukrainian conspirator L. Kravchuk, who was looking at a drunken B. Yeltsin who was lying under a table after a feast, was struck by a brilliant idea. The moment has finally come when one can implement the plans of integral nationalists that he and his Bandera confessors are carrying out. While the heads of the republics of the USSR are at a loss from the treachery of this troika, they will scratch their heads, he will do everything with the rukhovets and radical nationalists to bury the results of the all-Union referendum, in which 75% of the polled citizens supported the preservation of the USSR.

As an experienced conspirator and inborn provocateur with a fist-fighter-world-eater, Kravchuk, in order not to lighten up prematurely, chose to use tactics in the dark of his surroundings (including repainted party workers), with whose hands in Galicia opened a bottle with a Bandera jinn, yearned for bleeding . Being in the shadow of the role of the serpent-tempter is the favorite tactic of this scoundrel, who has breathed in hope of revenge on the OUN-UPA bandits crawling out of the caches. Not for nothing today, he is "a friend - do not spill water" with the same scum on the views and actions of Schuster, who diligently imposes his fascist positions on Ukrainian society. Both in parliament and today Kravchuk is the invisible conductor of the neo-fascist orgies that have swept all of Ukraine today.

But today, hardly anyone will take to dispute the priority of Kravchuk in that he turned the “nenka” into a surrogate female, giving birth at a pace to the rabbit traitors of all stripes, the inveterate fraudsters, national goodness prostitutes, prostitutes and drug addicts, corrupt officials, corrupt judges and militia oprichniks, prostitutes and drug addicts, corrupt officials, corrupt judges and militia oprichniks, prostitutes and drug addicts, corrupt officials, corrupt judges and militia oprichniks, prostitutes and drug addicts, corrupt officials, corrupt judges and militia oprichniks, prostitutes and drug addicts, corrupt officials, corrupt judges and militia oprichniks, prostitutes and drug addicts, corrupt officials, corrupt judges and militants abhorring to apply sophisticated torture to detainees.

The current Western politicians themselves are wondering what unforeseen offspring can give another okrol surrogate nenki, which, look, and will rush in the flow of their "democratic" abode. But many of them are well aware that half-breeds, and even Bandera starter, are brutally unpredictable, exorbitant ambitions and readiness to serve any devil for dollars. And mixed marriages in their countries with surrogate children nenki can significantly affect the quality of the "gene pool" of Europe ...

But the West and its intelligence services are well aware that the beginning of the surrogatization of Ukraine was laid by Kravchuk, who needed rejuvenation of mossy Bandera cadres. Therefore, at first, the CIA made sure that a stream of OUN emissaries, "embryologists", poured in with the baggage of "embryos" for grafting nenke entangled in vectors. Apparently not without purpose was visiting in Ukraine and the grandson of Bandera, who did not disregard the nenku in need of young Bandera flesh. American “reproductive technologists” carefully took care of the variety of material for conceiving surrogate nenka: from former Gestapo agents, SS “Halychyna” punishers, venerable ideologists of Ukrainian national-fascism to current special services agents. Such efficiency of overseas zealots of "freedom and democracy" allowed in a short time to turn Western Ukraine into an enclave of fascism and introduce its agents into all the most important spheres of the state mechanism.

Available as a panel maid, the nenka is constantly in a state of pregnancy and uninterruptedly, as if from a conveyor, gives out the production of “embryos” of not only American sowing, but also similar “material” from other countries interested in erasing as soon as possible. Ukraine, all Russian roots. All their efforts are aimed at ensuring that surrogates born from ideological infusions ripen in record time. Unfortunately, they succeed. And this can be seen by the way the fledgling young scumbags with fanaticism urge to kill “moskaley”, “hang komunyak on Gilyaks”, with brutal frenzy mock at the mass graves and monuments to the soldiers of the Soviet Army who liberated Ukraine from Hitler’s invaders.

In this regard, I would like to refer to a link from the Internet about surrogate motherhood, which does not always give the desired results. Taking into account my allegorical form of presenting the article, it is safe to say that Ukrainian neo-fascists are interested in joining their ranks with adolescents with defects mentioned below:

“... According to scientists, they found out that children conceived with the help of donor eggs and sperm, like those who were conceived naturally, had no emotional difficulties, unlike those that surrogate mothers endured. According to the survey leader, Professor Susan Golombok, children born by surrogate mothers show signs of problems with adaptation, behavior (aggression or antisocial behavior), as well as such emotional problems as anxiety or depression. She also stressed that the most difficult period for them is adolescence. ”

It is precisely on this that the calculations of the neo-fascists are being built, in order to drag into their networks the raw, not morally and spiritually formed youth. Judging by the rate of fascism in Ukraine, we already see how the progeny produced by the surrogate nenka and brought up in the spirit of I. Fahrion already speak with the Nachtigalese accent. And the hour is not far when the nestlings and her and the Chickens begin to measure the skulls of citizens on the subject of the purity of the Ukrainian race with compasses. At this stage, the main task of the neo-fascists is that surrogate Ukraine should not slow down the pace of punching political villains. For this, the base of neo-fascists has accumulated plenty of embryos, ranging from the entire opposition to the famous provocateur and intriguer Shuster, who, no doubt, will play a significant role in the conception and birth of brown monsters who suck out all the healthy blood from impoverished Ukraine with milk . Quiet sleep of well-fed surrogate vigilants, oddly enough, is accompanied by lullaby marches by OUN-UPA bandits, which are sung by adviser (!) Guarantor A. German.

These are the consequences of Kravchuk surrogatization of Ukraine. To amuse myself with the thought that this werewolf would stop at that was at least naive. This Moor does not leave the political scene yet: his surrogate constitution, which will only legitimize the disruption of the seduced by him, will be on the order of the day.

Where are the guarantees that the same frostbitten innovators will not be born in the wild heads from her offspring, who will come up with the idea to clone the “titular nation”? It is not known whether the ex-ideologue will live to this day. But in his Russophobic dreams, he clearly dreams that these clones (with a clearly limited intelligence) do not hesitate, at the command of their leaders will rush to expand the expanses of nenki to Don. So, in any case, it is sung in the national anthem. Appetite comes with eating. You look, and the idea to dress up Chukotka aborigines in embroidered shirts and trousers will be born in this surrogate country.

It would be ridiculous if the carriers of these absurd and dangerous dreams were not financed by Western pseudo-democrats and Ukrainian oligarchs whose fathers and grandfathers knew what the Holocaust and chilling souls of the Bandera massacre are.
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  1. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 23 July 2013 05: 55 New
    -2
    There were two questions:
    1. How should one not love one's Homeland in order to write such things about it?
    2. What did the author do to rid his homeland of "banderization", "fascization" and "surrogacy"?
    1. Ivan_Ivanov
      Ivan_Ivanov 23 July 2013 10: 11 New
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      You're not right. Ukraine is a beautiful, wonderful, amazing, unique land. But Ukraine is a non-state. The state is absurd, impossible, contrary to common sense. And, characteristically, we deserve the power that has us.

      If in Russia there is some honor of a patriotic elite, which, like it or not, relies on a people with an appropriate worldview, then in Ukraine there is not even a miserly share among the elite. She just has no one to lean on.
      1. Apologet.Ru
        Apologet.Ru 23 July 2013 10: 46 New
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        bully
        Independent Ukraine was NOT and NOT. In Ukraine, there are independent economic clans that are bickering among themselves, i.e. those who today are called the current government and their opponents the so-called the opposition (or vice versa, which, incidentally, by and large, does not matter what), and the people are thrown into a social dump.
      2. Apologet.Ru
        Apologet.Ru 23 July 2013 11: 07 New
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        bully
        I have said and will repeat that it is not worth collecting all the nationalities living in Ukraine to the heap.
        H. Okhly and M. Oskali are the peoples of the brothers who were, are, and will be!
        Do not confuse and do not offend them by their kinship with "zapadentsy" - Galicians (residents of Lviv, Ternopil and Ivano-Frankivsk regions, in which less than 11% of the country's population lives), who support VO "Svoboda", these admirers and the last Nazi bastards from SS men from units the fascist guard of Galicia, mercenaries from the special battalions of the Abwehr “Nachtigall” named after S. Bandera and “Roland” named after E. Konovalets and S. Petlyura, and the Bandera population friendly to the troops of the Third Reich, acting under the slogan “There is no God but Bandera, and Tyagnibok is his prophet. "
        The goal of which is not "FREE UKRAINE", but the Galician-fascist national idea - "ALL UKRAINE IS NOT COVERED IN GALICHINA".
        That is what Ukraine is today.
        1. Leon_Vіsur
          Leon_Vіsur 23 July 2013 13: 19 New
          -12
          Z0 vidsotkiv kiyan pidtrimalo "Freedom". Krivavi ruki "rassyan" forget not soon (I do nikoli), and people do not want to crawl into the zashmorg. Dine viklyuchennya - Downbas, vіchno p'yaniy, pіd drugs. Ale і population hto - "rasheyanі"
          1. Apologet.Ru
            Apologet.Ru 23 July 2013 15: 31 New
            +4
            0 vidsotkiv kiyan pidtrimalo "Freedom"

            I am sure that fascism in Ukraine will not pass and the Nazi "Svoboda" will end in the same way as its progenitors Hitler and Bandera.

            And as for the 30% of citizens, these are the titular Galicians who came to work to provoke ...
            1. Leon_Vіsur
              Leon_Vіsur 23 July 2013 16: 26 New
              -1
              Quote: Apologet.Ru
              0 vidsotkiv kiyan pidtrimalo "Freedom"

              I am sure that fascism in Ukraine will not pass and the Nazi "Svoboda" will end in the same way as its progenitors Hitler and Bandera.

              And as for the 30% of citizens, these are the titular Galicians who came to work to provoke ...

              Ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!!! Well, vii nashmishili !!! Stink і in Zhytomyr arrived, in Chernigiv, і in Cherkasy.
              From now on, it means - rosiyanin, afraid of Ukrainian yak bogged down!
              Ні, shanovny, tse buli same kiyani. Z dida-pradyda, central Ukraine! Bo they have a good memory and the growth of the Bilshovyts' occupations in 1918, and the Holodomor of 1933, and the Areshty of 1937. Ukraine has thrown, deceived God, and since the rotten dead has gone to the name of "Russia" gutted.
      3. krasin
        krasin 23 July 2013 18: 53 New
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        A horrible end is better than horror without end
        The Ukrainian "elite" is worse than a monkey with a grenade. She simply does not understand that the moment has come when the upper classes cannot and the lower classes do not want. Russia does not see an adequate partner for itself in Ukraine and, having finally become disillusioned with the ability of the regionals to think and at least defend their selfish interests, as well as realizing that the rest of the pretenders to power are even worse, took a position of expectation and accepted the fact that it will have to choose Ukraine when everything collapses, and then restore order here, establish life, restore the economy.
    2. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru 23 July 2013 10: 49 New
      +9
      bully
      According to historical circumstances, there are no Ukrainians as a single nation, a single ethnic entity. There are malorosy - which are the essence of Russian and there are Galicians, with whom malorosov have nothing to do. No language, no history, no religion. The unifying foundation of the Galicians, the main and only criterion for their self-identity is Russophobia.
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 23 July 2013 12: 37 New
        +5
        I think there is no need to explain to anyone about what Kievan Rus is? There was a political division of the three brothers, they were sent to different "families", and these "families" did, and some still continue to instill hatred towards the brothers. Maybe it's enough gentlemen, to hate each other, enough for us the great revolution, in which a brother went against his own brother. You can not follow the lead of provocateurs who are trying to divide in order to rule. What are "they" afraid of? everything is simple, together we are strong, and one by one, a servant. Is this what we want to be? Now, with regards to revolutions, coups, and other democratic values, The revolution is invented by romantics, made by fanatics, and adventurers come to power "
    3. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru 23 July 2013 11: 16 New
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      bully

      How should one not love one's Homeland in order to write such things about it?


      Maybe the author doesn’t so much love his Motherland as he hates the scam that swore allegiance to the Soviet Union and is now doing its best for the “30 State Department Serebryans” trying to completely eliminate the historical roots that connect the Russian World?
    4. rpek32
      rpek32 23 July 2013 13: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: serge-68-68
      2. What did the author do to rid his homeland of "banderization", "fascization" and "surrogacy"?

      And what exactly should you have done?
    5. revnagan
      revnagan 23 July 2013 15: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: serge-68-68
      What did the author do to save his homeland from "banderization", "fascization" and "surrogacy"?

      But what can the author of the fascization of his homeland oppose? Only a word. After all, any physical actions against such a policy of the authorities paid by the West are recognized in advance as illegal and criminal! Maybe shoot "torch-bearers" from an ambush? Is that what you specifically propose? Without any support from outside the author , like most adequate citizens of Ukraine, he is forced to act within a very narrow framework, otherwise he will be banally declared insane or a criminal.In order to resist the onslaught of the West and the authorities it bought, a powerful pro-Russian party is needed, which the citizens themselves will not create, because there are no resources, and the oligarchs such a party is not needed.
    6. biglow
      biglow 23 July 2013 20: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: serge-68-68
      There were two questions:
      1. How should one not love one's Homeland in order to write such things about it?
      2. What did the author do to rid his homeland of "banderization", "fascization" and "surrogacy"?

      what is now in the territory of Ukraine is completely hostile to those peoples who live there. And to Eastern Ukrainians and Western and Russian. The people here are tormented and survive as best they can, but they can’t continue like this forever. That's why such articles appear.
    7. Misantrop
      Misantrop 23 July 2013 20: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: serge-68-68
      How not to love your homeland

      And which of the following (Kravchuk, Farion, Tyagnibok, Schuster) is your kindred that you worry about them so much? The author writes bitterly about the unfortunate country in which these miscarriages rule the ball. Does that suit you? Personally, I don’t. It’s just to compete with the aforementioned gang on an equal footing, relying on intelligence and sabotage structures of not the weakest states of the planet, it’s a little complicated, don’t you? Therefore, your second question sounds somewhat provocative. To say the least ...
  2. domokl
    domokl 23 July 2013 06: 12 New
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    Ukraine is on the verge of really serious ideological battles. It is not regrettable to write this, but it has been divided for a long time. I read comments from the east, we are brothers, we want to live in peace with you, and better together. I read from the west-Russia sleeps and sees how Ukraine dies. And the saddest thing is that Ukrainians argue among themselves. They argue so that feathers fly around.
    I read the first comment, and the question also arose. Or maybe the author wrote an article because his soul hurts for his homeland?
    1. serge-68-68
      serge-68-68 23 July 2013 06: 20 New
      -5
      Perhaps it hurts. But I wouldn't write about my Motherland like that. For me, Russia will never be a "surrogate nenko", "available as a panel girl", etc. However, everyone writes the way he was brought up. Including my mother.
      1. biglow
        biglow 23 July 2013 20: 44 New
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        Quote: serge-68-68
        Perhaps it hurts. But I wouldn't write about my Motherland like that. For me, Russia will never be a "surrogate nenko", "available as a panel girl", etc. However, everyone writes the way he was brought up. Including my mother.

        you just don’t understand when an alien culture is being imposed on you and offered to be considered heroes of the people whom you consider criminals. Bender and UPA are enemies for us and we are invited to honor them. Western Ukrainian culture is alien to the population of eastern Ukraine and the south, and why is it imposed on us. We cannot agree with this and do not agree with the fact that N.V. Gogol is declared in Ukraine by a foreign writer, and Russian culture is a minority culture. We will never agree with this.
    2. Dart weyder
      Dart weyder 23 July 2013 06: 55 New
      0
      Quote: domokl
      I read comments from the east - we are brothers, we want to live in peace with you, but rather together. I read from the west - Russia is sleeping and sees Ukraine dying
      - I don't know, but you haven't tried reading on the forums of Dagestan and Chechnya! ???? can you find something interesting about Russia !? just a case from the category "We'll see a speck in someone else's eye ...." it's difficult to talk about something, if only to judge by comments !? Have you been in Ukraine!????
      1. domokl
        domokl 23 July 2013 08: 07 New
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        Quote: Dart Weyder
        "We'll see a speck in someone else's eye

        Sorry, but judging by the flag, this eye is a stranger to you, not to me. And I visit various forums and I understand who and what is writing for. For our generation, Ukraine has been and will be ours. We will not be there and will be there with the Ukrainian people.
        1. Dart weyder
          Dart weyder 23 July 2013 08: 31 New
          -1
          Well, except that you can distinguish between flags - already a set-off, but it’s obviously not for you to judge someone else’s or my own bully I'm talking about Russia, what about Ukraine - and about the "new flag" I know not by hearsay, and I managed to live in Siberia, and in another region of Russia and in Ukraine - and not on "forums", so somehow for me "Global dreams of a surrogate nenka" somehow does not sound very pleasant, (you think in this context, but there are many similar expressions and names, for you Ukraine will be "yours" only many in Ukraine of a younger age, because of such rhetoric perhaps even without delving into the delusionalness of the author's articles will only move away, and when there is nowhere to go and everyone is offended, radicalization occurs,), especially joyful exclamations about the correctness of the article - about the collapse of the USSR and the formation of the CIS, as well as Gorboch's role in this] VA, Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich on this site there was a huge number of really competent articles, with a real analysis of the participants, their actions and who was behind whom ...
          P / S If there is nothing intelligible to answer (only without theoretical data gleaned from the "forums") - you can again remember about your patriotism - and my flag - I will not be offended wassat
  3. Aeneas
    Aeneas 23 July 2013 06: 35 New
    -11
    it seems to me that the author has a certain type of fantasy, he will turn to grandfather Hfroyd for details. On such occasions, one of my former colleague, Zampotyl used to say: Blood, sand and sugar. In the sense of nonsense combining incompatible.
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 23 July 2013 06: 42 New
      +5
      Quote: Aeneas
      it seems to me that the author has a certain type of fantasy, he will turn to grandfather Hfroyd for details

      What fantasies are there? I will never forget how the Amer ambassador handed epaulets to your scouts.
      1. Aeneas
        Aeneas 23 July 2013 08: 34 New
        -3
        and I saw how the Russian military attache handed. The truth is another school.
        1. Ivan_Ivanov
          Ivan_Ivanov 23 July 2013 10: 29 New
          +2
          That is, it turns out in Ukraine intelligence serves the Americans, and the Russian army? Well, and what kind of state is this?
        2. Garrin
          Garrin 23 July 2013 17: 31 New
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          Quote: Aeneas
          and I saw how the Russian military attache handed. The truth is another school.

          And you no longer see the difference between the Russian military attache and the American ambassador? Oh well...
  4. shinobi
    shinobi 23 July 2013 06: 37 New
    +1
    Well, it's not for nothing that the people uttered wisdom - when the crest was born, zh.i.d. cried! Only please do not confuse the Ukrainian and Jewish peoples with such negative phenomena in their mass as "crest" and "zh.d." order.
  5. Dart weyder
    Dart weyder 23 July 2013 06: 53 New
    +4
    too much honor to Kravchuk - the author overestimates it, and the referendum was vainly dragged here - it was originally conceived so that the union would fall apart .... the center stirred up the water .... and the princes turned out to be princes - there was no choice ....
    Here he is - treat as you like - crossing out the word - agreed with him or refused! ????



    and nationalists - in every country this is evil - but also voices for politicians, because anyway what nationalists - in Ukraine, Russia, Georgia, Germany or England - are radicals - which some people need
    1. MG42
      MG42 23 July 2013 17: 05 New
      +2
      Thanks for the picture ..

      http://referendum.ws/itogi-vsenarodnogo-golosovaniya-referenduma-sssr.html

      76,5% were in favor of preserving the USSR from them in Ukraine 70% those who voted at the National Referendum on March 17, 1991 ..
  6. knn54
    knn54 23 July 2013 07: 46 New
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    The erected monument to the Soviet soldier-liberator in Berlin was restored in Treptower Park - the Germans recognize Victory Day. And the Galician nationalists of TUPO are trying to cancel the Victory Day, remove and desecrate the monuments, beat the veterans of the Great Patriotic War and ... remain UNPUNISHED.
    The Ounovites are more STABLE carriers of Nazism than the Germans themselves.
    The psychological, moral and religious incompatibility of Galicia and Ukraine is the REASON leading to the degradation and collapse of Ukraine.
    We are a very sick body, poisoned by parasites. And without intensive care, it seems, can not do.
    PS 1937 FOR the so-called. "Elite" should last continuously and methodically.
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 23 July 2013 08: 06 New
      +5
      Quote: knn54
      The Ounovites are more STABLE carriers of Nazism than the Germans themselves.
      The psychological, moral and religious incompatibility of Galicia and Ukraine is the REASON leading to the degradation and collapse of Ukraine.
      I completely agree with you.
    2. Dimka off
      Dimka off 23 July 2013 14: 54 New
      +1
      leading to the degradation and collapse of Ukraine.

      not only to this, but also a threat of civil war.
      but otherwise I agree with you.
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop 23 July 2013 21: 02 New
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        Quote: Dimka off
        there is a threat of civil war.

        Of course have. Just because the descendants of Bandera themselves will not abandon their plans NEVER. And you can’t even call them Ukrainian patriots. And it’s not possible to make peace with them, it’s easier to make peace with a cancerous tumor
        1. Garrin
          Garrin 23 July 2013 21: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: Misantrop
          And it’s not possible to make peace with them, it’s easier to make peace with a cancerous tumor

          Greetings Valera! hi
          So it turns out that only surgically. On the edge, "chemistry"
  7. Tuzik
    Tuzik 23 July 2013 09: 09 New
    +5
    article hodgepodge, where does Kravchuk to fascism? so Berezovsky can be tied to Hitler, and judging by the minority of the whole country is not necessary, so Russia can be described as a gang of bearded Wahhabis at the Mercians in their village. In Ukraine, the majority of normal people, only they do not go into the news and do not arrange pickets, they work for 2-3 jobs, they have no time. And politicians - that's why politicians all stink, both ours and them.
    1. zmey_gadukin
      zmey_gadukin 24 July 2013 15: 43 New
      0
      Plus to you! Short, true and clear
  8. Middle-brother
    Middle-brother 23 July 2013 09: 19 New
    +1
    For a chaotic presentation - a mistake.
  9. Vlad_Mir
    Vlad_Mir 23 July 2013 10: 11 New
    +3
    The question is not even about Kravchuk! In today's Ukraine, in fact, a "war" has been declared on Russia. Paradoxically, the ruling clan, the opposition, and the oligarchy are united as never before. Everyone has different goals, but the methods are the same. A rare Ukrainian site will not pour a tub of crap on Russia. Throwing mud at a neighbor, telling how different we are, talking about belonging to different civilizations has become just fashionable!
  10. ed65b
    ed65b 23 July 2013 10: 19 New
    +4
    I love Ukraine, I love Kiev and the baptist, there are a lot of people to meet and it will be friendly people from different parts of both Ukraine and Russia. A lot of Russians work and live there. Nobody calls them migrant workers. I like to breathe the air of Kiev, he is somehow different - heady of freedom. In Russia this is not. I am for Ukraine and Russia together for centuries. without older and younger sisters.
    1. Leon_Vіsur
      Leon_Vіsur 23 July 2013 13: 37 New
      -6
      Tilki, since Moscow is far away, behind the middle and high parkan - tolki tolls and all sushi live quietly, normally i can.
    2. xan
      xan 23 July 2013 14: 27 New
      +4
      Quote: ed65b
      I like to breathe the air of Kiev, he is somehow different - heady of freedom. In Russia this is not.

      I live in St. Petersburg, how I can’t get it - how much freedom does a Kiev citizen have than I have?
      1. Leon_Vіsur
        Leon_Vіsur 23 July 2013 15: 12 New
        -3
        Tilki slave and tyrant do not know the true savor of Freedom!
        A. Zhezhera
      2. Garrin
        Garrin 23 July 2013 21: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: xan
        I live in St. Petersburg, how I can’t get it - how much freedom does a Kiev citizen have than I have?

        Well, they are allowed to put up tents there, to relieve the need in the central square. And you try on the Palace ...
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      4. zmey_gadukin
        zmey_gadukin 24 July 2013 15: 44 New
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        You just were not in Ukraine ... and you didn’t walk around Kiev.
        1. Misantrop
          Misantrop 24 July 2013 15: 55 New
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          Quote: zmey_gadukin
          I didn’t walk around Kiev.
          Well, I walked, more than once. So, what is next? By the way, I also walked around Peter, but less often. So there is an opportunity to compare. The Maidan IMHO is not in a very good condition (except that the flask on the pedestal of the Cossack is hand-polished). And the column of the Post Office with the inscriptions of the "Orange Revolution" protected by the plexus (again IMHO) makes a wretched impression. When was something good written on the walls? .. And the price of "Crimean pasties" (sold in the same cafe) nearly blew the roof off

          IMHO soulless became Kiev, concrete and stone. Do not compare with the past. Here TOT Kiev (old) I really liked. My grandfather had an apartment on Khreshchatyk, so there was a place to stay
  11. creak
    creak 23 July 2013 11: 44 New
    0
    The author mixed completely different concepts and phenomena into a bunch - I had a chance to live in Ukraine for a long time and I can say that I have never met with hostile attitude just because I am Russian. And to project the views inherent in part of the population of Western Ukraine to other regions of the country is just nonsense ... What fascism can be among the villagers of the Left-Bank Ukraine, which suffered very seriously at the hands of the German Nazis. I had a chance to repeatedly communicate with people who survived the occupation, I am sure they would have found something to say to the author in response to his "profound conclusions." It is all the more inappropriate to talk about some kind of Bandera. Most people in Ukraine just live and work and least of all they are interested in the problems of Russophobia. It seems that the author sees the forests behind the trees ...
  12. Fastblast
    Fastblast 23 July 2013 11: 57 New
    -2
    Article from the category - "written on the fence."

    Our people just want to live and work.
    And the troublemakers and their minions are in any country.

    Guys, it’s not very correct to draw conclusions about the opinion of the population of Ukraine, based on media materials.

    Drive yourself to western Ukraine, talk with the local population and find out everything yourself.
    1. MG42
      MG42 23 July 2013 17: 13 New
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      Quote: Fastblast
      Drive yourself to western Ukraine, talk with the local population and find out everything yourself.

      So what to talk about with them? Yes, tourists who spend their money there are happy, but on the other hand, take the USSR flag and go through Lviv or Ternopol? .. wassat And their Galician accent with an admixture of Polish just cuts their ears ..
      1. Fastblast
        Fastblast 24 July 2013 10: 55 New
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        You know, for example, any accent cuts your ears, so what?))

        And here you take the Ukrainian flag and walk around somewhere in Russia ... The reaction, I suppose, will be the same.
      2. zmey_gadukin
        zmey_gadukin 24 July 2013 15: 46 New
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        And you do not say that a tourist. A flag will provoke, is not it?
        Yes, and why compete with the flag of a non-existent state?
  13. datur
    datur 23 July 2013 15: 20 New
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    okay we got through this? but you "
  14. Prosto vovochka
    Prosto vovochka 23 July 2013 20: 55 New
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    He wrote many times already. I often go to work in Western Ukraine. I always buy and read the press there. Guys, don’t believe the central press either Ukrainian or Russian. Normal adequate people. Erect monuments to Bandera? I explain that the descendants of the remnants crawled into power (Kravchuk is really a worthy example). Destroy the monuments? Only these very media of disinformation do not specify - monuments to whom? Not a single monument to Soviet party functionaries was left. Yes. Not a single monument to the NKVD was left. Yes. Not a single monument to the soldiers of the Red Army is not destroyed. YES. All monuments, all mass graves of soldiers of the Red Army are well-groomed. There are always wreaths near them. I understand. I believe with difficulty, but it is. And the Red Army in western Ukraine is revered as a liberator.
    1. Fastblast
      Fastblast 24 July 2013 10: 52 New
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      You know, it’s really a shame that most Russians have brainwashed info from central television. From what and why so eagerly to absorb this kind of information - it is not clear!
    2. zmey_gadukin
      zmey_gadukin 24 July 2013 15: 48 New
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      Quote: Prosto Vovochka
      Not a single monument to the soldiers of the Red Army is not destroyed. YES. All monuments, all mass graves of soldiers of the Red Army are well-groomed. There are always wreaths near them.

      Coming soon to the west. I specially take photos of the graves of soldiers and monuments.
      A monument to Bandera, by the way, is guarded around the clock))) so that they would not be destroyed at night