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Challenging choices: Big Brother or All-Seeing Eye?

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Challenging choices: Big Brother or All-Seeing Eye?Recent events increasingly show that the global elite is moving to open control over humanity based on the latest information and computer technologies.


The scandal with Edward Snowden erupted in the days of the meeting of the Bilderberg Group, which in turn gathered immediately after the annual Google Zeitgeist conference, which summed up the analysis of billions of Google user requests. And on the same days, 15-16 of June, New York hosted the Second International Congress of the Global 2045 Future Forum, which brought together experts in the field of neuroscience and nanotechnology to discuss cybernetic methods to achieve human immortality ... The goal of the congress participants is to create an Avatar megaproject , which includes the development of anthropomorphic robots, the brain-computer interface, telepresence systems, neuroprosthetics and brain modeling, the study of consciousness and ways of transferring a person’s self to a non-biological substrate - the suit governmental body. The main topics at the congress were spiritual development, cybernetic life extension technologies, “cybernetic immortality”, “meta-reason”, “non-humanity”.

While the first congress of the Global 2045 Future Forum took place in Russia in 2012, almost unnoticed, in New York 200 was accredited to journalists from leading media for this event. Such well-known futurologists and scientists acted as inventor Ray Kurzweil, director of technical development at Google; writer and entrepreneur, the largest individual philanthropist at Oxford University, James Martin; co-founder of the Laboratory of Artificial Intelligence at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Marvin Minsky; Brain Prosthetics Technology Developer Theodore Berger, University of Southern California; the founder of the first Russian brain-computer interface laboratory, Alexander Kaplan; artificial intelligence developer entrepreneur Ben Herzl; creator of the theory of substrate-independent mind Randal Kuhne; Stewart Hameroff, the developer of the theory of possible quantum teleportation of consciousness into an alternative body; United Therapeutics CEO Martin Rotblat (the company plans with 2016 to begin mass transplantation of human-made organs printed on 3D printers) and many others.

The forum’s organizer and president is Russian billionaire General Director of the Internet company Newmedia Stars and the founder of the Russia-2045 movement Dmitry Itskov, setting out his credo as follows: “A person must be free from the limitations of biological nature, death, gravity”. To do this, Itzkov preaches, human bodies must be replaced by non-biological carriers, in whose heads implanted the brain of earthlings, and thus the evolution of humanity will be directed towards achieving immortality.

The forum participants presented the results of their activities. Japanese robotics Hiroshi Ishiguro demonstrated the capabilities of the humanoid robot Heminoid HI-1, invented by him, representing an exact copy of him. This copy was presented as a pioneering initiative in terms of human gaining immortality to 2045. The first man-cyborg, Englishman Nigel Ekland, the owner of the bionic prosthetic arm, showed the possibility of integrating cybernetic technologies with the human body. Finally, an android (that is, human-like) head, a twin of Itskov, constructed by the American inventor David Hanson in the first stage of the Avatar A project, was demonstrated here. Itskov's humanlike head is controlled by 36 motors.

The global future of 2045 is part of an international transhumanism movement that has proclaimed its goal to achieve such changes in the nature of Homo Sapiens with the help of the latest technologies that make a person into a “postman” or “superman”.

That is, we are talking about an attempt to translate the global outlook into practice, which is focused on the strategy of changing the “reasonable person” type. Central to the 2045 Global Future Forum is the idea of ​​creating a “new world consciousness” and a “new world civilization”. Before the congress, the forum participants sent a letter to the UN Secretary General, urging him to provide them with the support of the UN General Assembly. The letter indicated that the world is on the verge of global change, the essence of which should be the realization of a new development model conducive to the evolution of the individual’s consciousness and the transition to “non-humanity”. It is planned to achieve this with the help of breakthrough technologies designed to ensure the extension of life up to immortality on the basis of an artificial body-avatar, which will allow creating a new civilization. This strategy, the authors of the letter emphasize, should be “An alternative to nationally-oriented ideologies and to unite nations, to make the service of everyone the service of humanity the meaning of life”.

The presence of Ray Kurzweil at the congress was of particular importance: he is considered the guru of modern transhumanism, although in fact the idea has long roots. This notion was established at the end of the 50s of the XX century, and in its modern meaning it began to be used by American scientists in the 80s. Within transhumanism, there are different directions: some crave for immortality, others dream of super-intelligence, still others believe that people will be able to overload their intelligence in machines with artificial intelligence, while computer networks will recognize themselves as superhuman intelligent entities (!). The most significant financial resources are invested in research, the purpose of which is to completely change human nature, which is planned to be carried out using the so-called NBIC convergence - nanotechnology, biology, computer science and cognitive sciences.

A characteristic feature of these studies is that their authors extremely arbitrarily interpret human rights, considering the citizen as an absolutely autonomous being, which belongs only to itself and has the right to decide for itself what changes it wants to make with its body and with its brain.
A person in these conditions turns into an experimental object for applying NBIC technologies, the use of which is not limited to any ethical considerations, to the extent that a person can be turned into just a certain web site. As Nick Bostrom, a professor at Oxford University, stated at the First Congress of the Global Future of 2045, there are two ways of immortality - biological and digital. Digital - is a complete reproduction of the human brain on a computer, allowing you to create spare copies of a person. The biological method is intermediate, and the digital method is the main one.
Today, the most active transhumanist lobby operates in California, China and South Korea, that is, where the centers for the production of NBIC technologies are concentrated. Google becomes one of the most active architects of the transhumanist revolution. In 2008, with the financial support of this company, its co-founder Larry Page provided 250 thousand dollars, and other employees - on 100 thousand dollars (5) for training - “potential leaders seeking to promote the development of technologies to solve global problems of humanity ". Singularity University (6) was created, which is located at NASA's Ames Research Center, two steps from the Googleplex in Silicon Valley. And it was headed by Ray Kurzweil, who made the main contribution to the development of the idea of ​​singularity.

It is argued that the “singularity” (a hypothetical moment after which technical progress is supposedly so fast and complicated that it will be inaccessible to understanding) should come after technologies exceed the computational capabilities of the human brain and artificial intelligence appears. According to Kurzweil, 2045 will occur. And then, as he writes in the book “Singularity is already close,” people “will transform biology and will exist in the Universe as immortal cyborgs”.

In July, 2012 Mr. Kurzweil met Google CEO Larry Page to show him a draft of his new book, How to Create Thinking, and admitted that he wants to open a company that could build a truly smart computer, but for that he needs data on each of 2 billion Internet users, and even better - about each of 7 billion Earth dwellers, including those who are not aware of the existence of networks and mobile phones (7). Page agreed to collaborate, and in January 2013 of transhumanism’s guru became the technical director of Google, turning artificial intelligence into a key research area of ​​the company and having the opportunity to use information about 2 billion Internet users.

Now the Kurzweil team is working on creating a computer that can reproduce the human nervous system. To do this, the computer is “trained” not only to respond to search requests, but to understand the natural language and analyze semantically meaningful text. “The system will know on a semantically deep level everything that you are interested in,” explains the developer. “I suppose that in a few years the system will be able to give the user answers to most of the questions before these questions are asked.” The user will be able to receive individual responses to requests that take into account his experience on the Internet, his range of interests, his character, and his temperament.

This is what Kurzweil calls “emotional intelligence,” which in his opinion is capable of influencing interests more than a thirst for information and analytical skills. Having collected all the information about how the user works, and having compiled his full portrait, the Kurzweil system will be able to work as an “emotional robot” that will guess what the user needs according to his mood. This is conceived as a merging of a person with a computer, which Google Executive Director Eric Schmidt spoke about, and in which the initiative will pass unnoticed from person to machine, the manager - under the guise of "guessing" - by the interests of the person.

Google provides the apologists of transhumanism with a financial and information base, and they provide Google with more effective means of controlling the consciousness of Internet users. In the light of the revelations made by Edward Snowden, this further expands the capabilities of American intelligence agencies, working closely with Internet companies.

To what extent, however, can these disclosures change anything in the created system of total control over the world community, if this control represents the content and essence of the information and post-information society? Transhumanists continue to diligently weave their transnational web, working on the restructuring of human consciousness. And they do not hide their goals, about which Professor Nick Bostrom frankly says: “As for the attitude towards transhumanism, this is now a political label that, as it develops, will become a popular movement. Further, a single language is needed, which should become a world order, where at the highest level of the organization there is only one decision-making body. It can be a world democratic government, or a dictator, or a universal moral code with the power to enforce the law (I have singled out - O.C.) ”(8)

And here is the last news about the projects of Dmitry Itskov on the transplantation of the human mind into an artificial body: “Transferring the personality to a hologram gives a number of advantages already known today. Patients will be free to cross walls, state borders and travel at the speed of light (like non-cash money). Given the great military potential of future inventions, Itskov intends to cooperate with the DARPA - the military unit of the US Department of Defense for advanced research "(I highlighted. - O.Ch.) (9). DARPA is engaged in, among other things, the invention of video surveillance cameras to identify individuals based on programs simulating the functions of the human brain.

And in conclusion, another question: what in the light of all this “transhumanist” activity should be understood as the sovereignty of the individual and the sovereignty of the state? And if a person transmits information to the All-Seeing Eye of the Internet, is it necessary to be surprised that the “eye” shares this information with the American Big Brother?
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  1. Garrin
    Garrin 21 July 2013 06: 36
    +8
    human bodies must be replaced by non-biological carriers, the heads of which are implanted with the brains of earthlings, and thus the evolution of mankind will be directed towards achieving immortality.

    Nonsense. I don’t know how anyone, but such immortality is better without me.
    This is thought of as the merging of a person with a computer, which Google CEO Eric Schmidt spoke about and in which the initiative will quietly transfer from a person to a machine that controls - under the guise of "guessing" - the interests of a person.

    First, the brains in iron, and then replace them with iron.
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 21 July 2013 06: 53
      12
      It's time to ban the activities of Google, Apple, Microsoft, and everyone who has been seen in the surveillance of people.
      1. AVV
        AVV 21 July 2013 14: 02
        +9
        In order to prohibit, alternative programs must be introduced in Russia! And this is a lot of work for our programmers, and the state should help them !!!
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 21 July 2013 14: 48
          +2
          Quote: AVV
          In order to prohibit, alternative programs must be introduced in Russia! And this is a lot of work for our programmers, and the state should help them !!!
          This must begin yesterday! I agree with your comment. +
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 21 July 2013 07: 22
      11
      Quote: Garrin
      First, the brains in iron, and then replace them with iron.

      And then the riot of machines ... In short, watch "Terminator"! oh, how sometimes science fiction writers get to the point! Only now they are writing all the gloomy things. It's time for our science fiction writers to plan a victorious restoration of the USSR with all that it implies! Let it come true!
      1. igordok
        igordok 21 July 2013 07: 45
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        And then the riot of machines ... In short, watch "Terminator"!

        About the science fiction. The action "Back to the Future 2" took place in 2015. There is very little left. Oh and we will roll we hit cars. yes
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 July 2013 07: 29
      +2
      Quote: Garrin
      First, the brains in iron, and then replace them with iron.

      Well yes, that’s what John McKein will look like when he gets a new body laughing Uh, McKein in the chair, don't mix it up winked
    4. C2H5OH
      C2H5OH 21 July 2013 07: 57
      +7
      I wonder how tada sekasa deal if brains are placed in a tin can crying .... something that does not impress me is such immortality recourse
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 21 July 2013 08: 00
        +2
        Quote: C2H5OH
        I wonder how tada sekasa deal if brains are placed in a tin can

        You will be printed with a new "device" on the printer, so don't worry laughing
        1. C2H5OH
          C2H5OH 21 July 2013 08: 12
          +1
          in Skolkovo or something to print? smile
          1. C2H5OH
            C2H5OH 21 July 2013 08: 15
            +7
            I hope the antivirus will be attached to the nanohren software?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 21 July 2013 08: 25
              +3
              Quote: C2H5OH
              I hope the antivirus will be attached to the nanohren software?

              Not only an antivirus, but also having bought one, you will receive two more as a gift. Vobschem push you gifts wassat
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 21 July 2013 08: 23
            0
            Quote: C2H5OH
            in Skolkovo or something to print?

            Well, you are already cheerful laughing
            1. C2H5OH
              C2H5OH 21 July 2013 08: 27
              +4
              the scene with sekas was recalled from the movie ,, Space Truckers ,, lol
      2. Garrin
        Garrin 21 July 2013 08: 10
        -1
        Quote: C2H5OH
        I wonder how tada sekasa deal if brains are placed in a tin can

        How, how - by electric current.
        1. C2H5OH
          C2H5OH 21 July 2013 08: 21
          0
          or maybe like in a movie a destroyer with a stallone ... there still remember when he got into the future he put some kind of device on his head and he transferred images to the brain as if you were doing sekas
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 21 July 2013 08: 28
            +2
            Quote: C2H5OH
            put some kind of device on his head and he transmitted images to the brain as if you’re doing sekas

            In short, everything will be wrong. You will go to the store, there you will quickly be printed on a 3D printer Anna Chapman and that’s all, drag her home. Just as my wife will explain all this, I do not know laughing
            1. C2H5OH
              C2H5OH 21 July 2013 08: 34
              +3
              but I won’t like it ... let it collect things and go to live with my mother ... what for my wife if I can print women on a 3D printer laughing
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 21 July 2013 08: 39
                0
                Quote: C2H5OH
                let him pack his things and go to live with his mother.

                Mama belay What kind of mother can a wife have printed on a printer?
                Quote: C2H5OH
                . for me wife

                Well, damn you do not please, then I want a wife, then I do not want winked
                1. C2H5OH
                  C2H5OH 21 July 2013 08: 48
                  +2
                  I mean I already have a wife ... real lol
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 21 July 2013 08: 50
                    -1
                    Quote: C2H5OH
                    I mean I already have a wife ... real

                    Get another one, the same prozapas wassat
                    1. C2H5OH
                      C2H5OH 21 July 2013 08: 59
                      0
                      I’ll better print the boss for myself as a wife ... now let her suffer with me married as I suffer with her at work smile
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 21 July 2013 09: 06
                        0
                        Quote: C2H5OH
                        I’ll better print a wife for myself.

                        Wait a minute, I’ll send your email to her wink Comradely so to speak wassat
    5. Apostle
      Apostle 22 July 2013 18: 28
      0
      Article SUPER !!! I demand from VO more similar smile , who FOR support !!! Thanks to the author! But personally I will not give my brain an insult to these amers hi
  2. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 21 July 2013 06: 42
    +3
    Ah, I also naturally want to die like a thread ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 July 2013 07: 32
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Ah, I also naturally want to die like a thread ...

      Well, excuse me, you never know what you want ... you know you wanted to die. There is a law to live, so live. Resist and push, get a new body, but not male, but female laughing
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 21 July 2013 22: 18
        0
        Or they’ll send you to the baobabs, you'll be a baobab for a thousand years, while you die! (very famous poet and singer in the USSR).
  3. komsomolets
    komsomolets 21 July 2013 06: 44
    +6
    Itskov intends to cooperate with DARPA, the US Defense Department’s military unit for advanced research. ”And why does Mr. Itskov not want to cooperate with the Russian Ministry of Defense?
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 21 July 2013 06: 52
      +8
      Quote: komsomolets
      why Mr. Itskov does not want to cooperate with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

      probably, in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation they believe in fairy tales less than in the Pentagon. I am more interested in why "people", as soon as they grab, get rich, so start to dream of becoming immortal (kashchei, beat). or want to live the grabbed by yourself?
  4. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 21 July 2013 06: 46
    +3
    “Recent events more and more indicate that the global elite is moving to open control over humanity based on the latest information and computer technologies” - and I’m already prepared to read something serious ...
    However, the topic of dehumanization (computerization, mechanization) of a person is quite interesting and has been debated among scientists for about fifty years since the time of Marshal McLuhan. Only Itskov’s fantasies are not included in this debate.
    PS The title of the article does not reflect its content at all.
  5. Valery Neonov
    21 July 2013 06: 53
    +6
    "Transhumanists continue to diligently weave their transnational web, working to restructure human consciousness."- scary is not funny, however ...
    "... with the help of the latest technologies, such changes in the nature of Homo Sapiens, in which a person will turn into a 'posthuman' ..."- well, about this, we can watch them for some reason:
  6. treskoed
    treskoed 21 July 2013 06: 59
    +3
    And if a person passes information to the All-Seeing Eye of the Internet, is it any wonder that the “eye” shares this information with the American Big Brother?

    Do not break the law - and "let them slander!"
  7. Cat
    Cat 21 July 2013 07: 04
    +5
    What is needed: to collect all these "global" in a heap, to allow all the money they have to buy any kind of products, materials, devices, and so on, and then with all this junk - to land on some island. And to braid this island with a thorn, to sow the surrounding waters with mines, plus park a couple of nuclear submarines and air defense destroyers nearby - in order to extinguish all who rock the boat from there or there.
    And twenty years later, send a competent commission to the island to find out: how did they, superhumans, have already achieved immortality, are they ready to conquer the galaxy - or have they died out to such and such a mother, from hunger or for some other reason. And based on the results - to make a decision: to allow comrades "global" to move their ideas to the masses, or nuevonafig.
    1. Tambov we ...
      Tambov we ... 22 July 2013 16: 51
      0
      However, the script for the film "New Earth" ...
  8. SPAAARTAAA
    SPAAARTAAA 21 July 2013 07: 17
    +3
    Here is the "Hour of the Bull"
    1. Alan
      Alan 21 July 2013 08: 19
      +1
      hi Also, at the first lines of Efremov came to mind. Only not "Hour of the bull" and "Andromeda Nebula".
  9. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 21 July 2013 07: 25
    +3
    It does not threaten Russia yet .. The territory we have is large and there are many places where there is no Internet and cellular communications. I'll go to the taiga to bears gee gee
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 July 2013 08: 01
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I'll go to the taiga to bears

      You will go to the bears printed on the printer, you think this is the way out wassat
  10. Valery Neonov
    21 July 2013 07: 28
    +1
    Quote: Cat
    : to collect all these "global" in a heap, to allow all the money they have to buy any kind of products, materials, devices, and so on, and then with all this junk - to land on some island. And braid this island with a thorn, sow the surrounding waters with mines, plus park a couple of nuclear submarines and air defense destroyers nearby

    This requires "one more global" ... laughing
  11. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 21 July 2013 07: 42
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Ah, I also naturally want to die like a thread ...

    Well, excuse me, you never know what you want ... you know you wanted to die. There is a law to live, so live. Resist and push, get a new body, but not male, but female laughing

    God forbid ... such .. stop
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 July 2013 08: 02
      -1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      God forbid ... such.

      So back in the 70s of the last century they talked about gays, and now request So that ..... crying
  12. nemec55
    nemec55 21 July 2013 07: 47
    +2
    global
    elite
    moves to open control over
    humanity based on the latest
    information and computer technology.


    The benefit of living for this elite is not forever.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 July 2013 08: 03
      +4
      Quote: nemec55
      The benefit of living for this elite is not forever.

      As I understand it, the elite wants to live forever. Although I do not mind, let them live forever in hell.
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 21 July 2013 14: 02
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Although I do not mind, let them live forever in hell.

        In hell, we will live with such an elite, and squirm in the corners. I think so why the heck of a goat button accordion (a 3D printer of human organs, which does not exist and will not exist, at least I have not SEEN such a miracle) it is much easier for this elite to unleash another war, and organs will float to them, in any quantity, like in Yugoslavia, and cheaply, and angry. And about the surveillance, this is the secret of Punchinel, it was always and everywhere, before there were simply no cell phones. Odnoklassniki, Soap, Vkontakte, but there were "snitches" (non-regular police officers, and the KGB) at any enterprise. You will notice how Odnoklassniki collects data about us, which many of us easily disseminate themselves, then what color of your eyes, what kind of music you like, now and then. Let's try not to be FUCKS ourselves.
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  14. Averias
    Averias 21 July 2013 10: 22
    +1
    At the dawn of technological progress, people read fiction. Since the things that science fiction writers described appeared in reality. People began to believe that everything is workable. Remember the first flight into space. What slogans were - "Mastering the planets", "cities on the moon", "Interstellar travel". They took control of nuclear energy (but did they? For me, so we didn't take anything. To use the energy of a chain reaction to boil water at a nuclear power plant, to make a breakthrough). And it started again, Nuclear engines, atomic batteries. It's the same with a laser. And when the computer appeared, everyone agreed that cyberpunk was just around the corner. And if you look closely, we are both tied to the notorious "WHEEL", and tied. This is me about technical matters (medicine, chemistry, I do not discuss). After all, all technical inventions are additions to the "WHEEL", so to speak "tuning", so that this very "WHEEL" turns better. The same LHC has the shape of a circle (WHEEL) and particles are carried around in it. Engines in airplanes, engines in cars, turbines for hydroelectric and nuclear power plants. Where can you tell me a breakthrough in new energy sources? No, but if there is a big secret. Take the same Tokamak - a mystery shrouded in darkness. But when we created a prototype. Where is the YDMT (low-thrust nuclear engine), and there was a working prototype, where did it go? An optical computer from which many years ago, the Japanese were shocked, where is it all? Here we run in circles, inventing something that makes our life easier and simpler. I do not argue that a lot of useful and necessary pieces have appeared. Much has radically changed the direction in science. But that's all, inside the proverbial wheel. Unfortunately, we cannot go beyond the limits. Remember the hype - they say, URA comrades, we mastered teleportation, we comrades teleported a quantum (or rather its state). Cool, and then what? In theory, anything is possible, but here's how to apply it in practice. Why do we need all sorts of mega forecasts and futuristic projects - if you never create it?
  15. Corsair
    Corsair 21 July 2013 10: 27
    +3
    The scandal with Edward Snowden broke out in the days of the meeting of the Bilderberg Group, which in turn gathered immediately after the annual Google Zeitgeist conference, which summarized the analysis of billions of requests from users of the Google system.
  16. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 21 July 2013 10: 44
    +5
    State speed ... Progress has risen. These printers ... that's still an achievement, without a mat as it is impossible to explain. Proclaimed "movement" goals can be achieved no more than a Japanese with his walker, with a mask molded from silicone, can pass for robotics.
    In light of ripping off the cover from total control over information flows, on the eve of the next "brave new world", in which technologically advanced eloi will rule over dull primitive Morlocks, it was necessary to update the facade. Like no, we are not going to fix your rocket stupidity to a chipmunk, dear consumer. No, we are not going to own your shortened brains by creating a picture directly in them, developed by us for the convenience of steering you. We will organize a leap into the future!
    Therefore, give me the last keys to your brain and relax. We’ll give you immortality, yeah ... they already ran after him, they’ll bring ...
    1. Averias
      Averias 21 July 2013 10: 56
      +1
      Look at the root. Especially about the fact that Progress has risen. Not only did he get up, he also got bogged down to the ears in the bias, ambitiousness of some representatives of scientific thought. Not wanting to admit the truth, they say yes, they have reached an impasse. Generates all sorts of ephemeral floodlights. As someone said: What is science, is a way to realize their ambitions at the expense of the state (something like that). Generally you +.
  17. Southerner
    Southerner 21 July 2013 11: 24
    +1
    So it’s not so, but all the inventions that you have listed such as Nuclear-Magnetic Drum and Optical Computer, so they are being finalized because the problems with their use are considerable
    1. Averias
      Averias 21 July 2013 12: 26
      +3
      Even YFMT and the Optical, Quantum computer is a so-called "crutch". This is not a discovery or invention that would fundamentally change the physics of processes. This will not bring us closer to the neighboring galaxy (and there is nothing to it). This will not give a new source of energy, will not allow you to create something out of nothing. It will just be another device that will make our life easier. But, there is such a thing as the "Golden Age". But what then, and then collapse and rapid regression. We only invent things that make our life easier (consumption), which is not always good. It's trite, for so much time, we have not been able to understand what DNA is. We do not know what a virus is (its mechanism). We do not know why the speed of light is the limit, and why it cannot be exceeded. Hence the utopian ideas about the strings of the universe, about hyper tunnels. But there is not a single example that at least one object in the Universe was moving or moving with superluminal speed. Or appeared from nowhere, and also disappeared into nowhere that would appear in another place. And if the universe does not do this, then how can we create the notorious hyper transition. Where and through what? There are many more questions than the pundits tell us. Take, for example, a seemingly fundamental fact - ELECTRON IS NOT DIVISIBLE (fundamental particle). And here on you, get a village tractor, ELECTRON was divided into two quasi-particles - one of which carries the original spin of the electron, the second carries its orbital motion. And again a dead end, and again a misunderstanding - how can it be? And so it will be indefinitely. Sometimes you don't need to understand how it works, you just need to learn how to use it. Well, we are not given to understand everything.
    2. Averias
      Averias 21 July 2013 12: 32
      +2
      And at the expense of nuclear weapons, here it was just that there were no special problems. The prototype worked perfectly in the atmosphere, without polluting the environment. Until now, bit by bit they are collecting information about this project, since they cannot understand the principle of work. Not to be confused with aircraft on nuclear engines, which at one time we were engaged in and the USA.
  18. Southerner
    Southerner 21 July 2013 13: 29
    0
    Enlighten about YaMT if you can reference
    1. Averias
      Averias 21 July 2013 13: 46
      0
      Here is the most interesting thing, two years ago, I read an extensive article about nuclear fuel and nuclear materials, about who created it and how and who had a hand in the collapse of this project. And now all the search engines give out only everything related to space. The same option was atmospheric. For an hour the Internet has been popping, but I can’t even find the ends. Just as I can not find details about our optical comp. As if there wasn’t such a thing. Well, I did not dream. Yes, and in my mind I’m sensible :-) As I find it, I will definitely unsubscribe, I just have scientists who are familiar with them and I will provilate this question. We actively discussed this topic.
      1. Rugrizin
        Rugrizin 21 July 2013 21: 06
        0
        I ask you, if you find, write to me too
  19. georg737577
    georg737577 21 July 2013 13: 38
    +2
    Imitation of biological processes on a non-biological basis is a dead end path. But a negative result is also a result.
  20. Dober
    Dober 21 July 2013 13: 49
    -1
    Popped in to read the opinions of members of the forum. And then 90% of this diarrhea piled up, which is disgusting to read. A serious topic was "zapetrosyanili" in Chaldean. Including one moderator "directed" the process.
    This is how the "intellectual" level of the resource falls. In the evening, the Jews will appear, the "Holocaust" wiring will begin and the "administration" will take up the Banhamer.
    1


    I'll go in the evening. Maybe the militant contingent will be replaced by an interested one.
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 21 July 2013 14: 32
      -1
      Quote: Dober
      A serious topic was "zapetrosyanili" in Chaldean. Including one moderator "directed" the process.

      Minus, for rudeness. "Judge not lest ye be judged."
      1. Dober
        Dober 21 July 2013 14: 39
        +2
        Quote: Garrin
        Minus, for rudeness. "Judge not lest ye be judged."

        One sentence contradicts the second.
        What a "windy friend" Garrin. Said one thing - did the opposite.
        Maybe we will not create an analogue of the "dispute" shown above?
        I'm not vain enough to "strive for SUCH pluses." I can easily worry about a couple of hundreds (thousands) of minuses on the forums. hi
        1. Garrin
          Garrin 21 July 2013 14: 49
          +1
          Quote: Dober

          One sentence contradicts the second.

          Not at all.
          Quote: Dober
          What a "windy friend" Garrin. Said one thing - did the opposite.

          And this is a specific rudeness.
          Firstly. I’m not your friend and I doubt very much that you will become him, ever.
          Secondly. You don’t know me and it’s not for you to hang labels, it’s about "windy".
          Quote: Dober
          A couple of hundred (thousand) of the minuses on the forums worry with ease. hi

          About such people usually say "Piss in the eye ..."
        2. Averias
          Averias 21 July 2013 14: 56
          +2
          I'm sorry I'm not getting into my business. What did you want to talk about? It is clear that comments about members printed on a 3D printer are just banter. So the weekend after all, that’s the people having fun. And at the expense of the seriousness of the article, hmmmm, let me think. Somewhere I already read this, yeah, I remembered, we open any fiction, the section of cyber punk - and voila, here you have the realities described in the article. Wirth. reality, immortality, teleportation. Corporations that control consciousness (how much opium is for the people), a person has turned into a creature lying on a couch with a helmet of virtual on his head. Well, yes, a very real prospect. And why, by ourselves, we dig our own grave. 2 + 2 fold, climb into the Internet, impromptu at the table and that of the Internet (issued for his own). Yes, a lot of things. And to depersonalize the mass and take it under control, he himself ordered, with such a level of development of gadgets. And the social network project was originally a project of the English military. Like let's see what happens - the result surprised even the warrior.
  21. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 21 July 2013 14: 26
    +3
    Not so long ago, Itskov appealed to quite a few billionaires from the Forbes list so that they could finance their immortality. I would advise you to turn to the rich people frozen in cryogen (there was such a hobby at the time that they would be unfrozen in the future and they would gain immortality) Why so ironic, you know what a thing --- the human brain is not a kidney and not a liver and to a scientific understanding of what it is and what to do with it in the event of biological death, science has not come close. Robots are great, they have a future, but digitize the brain or act with it like a flash drive by rearranging it to another device. Let them try, Anatoly Chubais to help you!)))
  22. My address
    My address 21 July 2013 15: 26
    +1
    It is written that I cannot give a shovel in my teeth and force me to dig from dawn to the fence for a couple of decades. They have already forgotten how "honestly" they earned their milli ... Transidiotism will disappear instantly.
  23. Terner38
    Terner38 21 July 2013 15: 32
    +4
    One thing pleases me, as an Orthodox person and a believer in God, all this delirium about immortality and the transfer of brains (souls ???) into a "non-biological carrier" - the delirium of a gray mare, which Ytskov is more likely to be.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 21 July 2013 16: 49
      0
      Quote: Terner38
      One thing pleases me, as an Orthodox person and a believer in God, all this delirium about immortality and the transfer of brains (souls ???) into a "non-biological carrier" - the delirium of a gray mare, which Ytskov is more likely to be.

      Information copied from the brain is a copy, the original will remain in the biological brain and will be sent to the ancestors after death. Copying consciousness, which is not yet possible, does not save the original.
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      2. NoSort
        NoSort 19 January 2014 19: 32
        0
        Quote: Setrac
        Information copied from the brain is a copy, the original will remain in the biological brain and will be sent to the ancestors after death. Copying consciousness, which is not yet possible, does not save the original.

        I completely agree with you! Indeed, it will only be a miserable copy of the information that the original wore! Because transferring consciousness into a machine, brain cells - the original carriers of this information will die. The original carriers, hence your brain, therefore you. So the only salvation is the restoration of the brain.
  24. 128mgb
    128mgb 21 July 2013 16: 22
    0
    the evolution of mankind will be directed towards achieving immortality.
    Well, here you have a new carrot. Live forever.
  25. individual
    individual 21 July 2013 17: 08
    +1
    The global future of 2045 is part of an international transhumanism movement that has proclaimed its goal to achieve such changes in the nature of Homo Sapiens with the help of the latest technologies that make a person into a “postman” or “superman”.

    Their avatars will be "a stump with eyes under No. ...", as cordiality will be deleted. am
  26. DenisBogomolov
    DenisBogomolov 21 July 2013 17: 11
    +2
    An outstanding, without any exaggeration, Soviet and Russian neurophysiologist Natalya Petrovna Bekhtereva once spoke about human knowledge of his own brain: “We know more about the Moon than about the World Ocean at depths over 150 meters, but even about the ocean we know more, than about the human brain. " In other words, we, in fact, know only about our own brain that it is the most complex system in the Universe ...

    The greatest danger of such research lies in the fact that humanity deliberately invades the area of ​​the absolute unknown. It invades - it does not begin to gradually and consistently study, does not investigate the prerequisites and approaches, but it INVOLVES. Such "pressure and onslaught" is fraught with completely unpredictable consequences. You can release such a genie that there will be no time for immortality and quantum superintelligence, and fantasies a la Terminator seem childish. This, by the way, is the specificity of modern science: technology allows you to do almost anything you want, and there are no assessments of risks and consequences, because there is no knowledge of where we are entering. This is about how to give a child a screwdriver in his hands and allow him to dig deeper into the working B.A.K.
  27. da-mir
    da-mir 21 July 2013 18: 19
    +1
    The organizer and president of the forum is the Russian billionaire general director of the Internet company Newmedia Stars and the founder of the Russia-2045 movement Dmitry Itskov, who sets out his motto as follows: “A person must be free from the limitations of biological nature, death, gravity.”
    Dmitry Itskov should have familiarized himself with the works of Nikolai Viktorovich Levashov "Mind and Essence", "Inhomogeneous Universe", "Mirror of My Soul" and others ..., and so - these are games in the sandbox, pants with straps ...))))
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 21 July 2013 18: 33
      0
      It would be necessary, of course ... only Mr. Itskov, by any means, will not be able to keep his attention for a period sufficient at least to read the preface to such works. Money on the Internet for Norbert Wiener makes absolutely ...
  28. poquello
    poquello 21 July 2013 20: 06
    +2
    "Dmitry Itskov, setting out his credo as follows:" A person should be free from the limitations of biological nature, death, gravity. "

    Learn gentlemen how to cut loot for health, you need a herbalife resting.
  29. darksoul
    darksoul 22 July 2013 09: 55
    +1
    And what do you want it all starts with small ... at the companies messages from icq, msn, etc. communication programs are recorded, total monitoring .. listening to phone conversations, microphones, hidden video cameras ..... since I mean I’m doing everything for everyone. I can say that almost every company has it .... there are simply absolutely objective reasons for this, and there are maniac managers with some strange inclinations of total surveillance .... accounting for working hours, less salaries for being late and early leaving, microphones and hidden video cameras in toilets (not funny and prohibited by law), total recording of network traffic. Here the USA is the same chief with strange inclinations only on a larger scale