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New deputy initiative: move the Day of Russia

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New deputy initiative: move the Day of RussiaDay of Russia was celebrated more than a month ago, but interest in this holiday began to gain momentum, as they say, after the fact. And the interest in this case is of the nature of a frank negative, which the Russian lawmakers decided to bring to the public. The initiative group, which includes representatives of all four parliamentary factions (United Russia, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia and Fair Russia), decided to come out with a proposal to cancel the celebration of the Day of Russia 12 June.


One of the deputies who spoke for the abolition of the celebration of the Day of Russia 12 June and for the postponement of the celebration either to the date corresponding to the Baptism of Russia, or to the day on which the celebration of the creation of Russian statehood falls is Yevgeny Fedorov. According to the authors of the initiative, the date 12 of June 1990 of the year - the adoption of the Declaration of State Sovereignty of the RSFSR at the Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR, which (date) gave rise to the creation of a new state holiday, is clearly not the starting point with which you can match holiday as the Day of Russia.

Evgeny Fedorov recalls that the holiday was originally called the Independence Day of Russia, which also, in his opinion, does not correspond historical reality. The initiators of the introduction of changes to the holiday calendar believe that Russia’s independence should be celebrated, for example, on May 9 or November 4, but not June 12. According to the same deputies, June 12 is by no means suitable for celebrating Russia Day (the decision to rename it was made in 2002), as many Russians in the early 90s and the date of June 12 are associated with the collapse of the Soviet Union, and the collapse of the country is unlikely to ever be perceived as a national holiday.

In addition, Deputy Fedorov declares: if we proceed from the fact that the Day of Russia corresponds to June 12 (with the beginning of the celebration since the 1992 year), this will give an occasion to foreign states to perceive the Russian Federation in the geopolitical field as a baby whose history has no more than 1000 years, and just a little over twenty. And if as a baby, then many foreign “partners” will have a desire to teach Russia how to send her not only foreign, but also domestic policy.

All these considerations prompted Fedorov and other representatives of the deputy group to the idea that such a holiday as the Day of Russia should certainly be postponed to another date.

On the one hand, there is logic in the arguments of Evgeny Fedorov. Indeed, the majority of Russians perceive the collapse of the Soviet Union with a clear negative, and therefore, either willy-nilly or not, they relate the date of the celebration of the Day of Russia to those tragic events that accompanied the isolation of independent states from the once great united country. And, it seems, the holiday is really worth moving to another date.

But on the other hand, it seems that our legislators have resolved all other issues a long time ago, and they have a lot of free time to come up with systematic initiatives to postpone holidays, consider proposals for transition to non-transition to summer time, rename the police to the police ...

The initiative group, which was unexpectedly preoccupied by the arrangement in the calendar of the Day of Russia, strangely, is little concerned with the issues that play a much more important role for the state and the people at this stage. And if you say that there are a lot of such unresolved issues, then it is nothing to say. And the new initiative of the deputies is more like an attempt to distract the Russians from the real problems that they (we) have to face. This is a “black hole” in housing and communal services with no one controlled by the growth of tariffs, this is arbitrariness in the provision of public services, this is a lot of economic and social problems, this is corruption, and after all, even with all attempts to solve all other problems for no.

So what happens? Our deputies were divided into certain groups, which are practicing who will surpass anyone in terms of untimely and often difficult to explain initiatives. At first, they stood up for the introduction of the obligatory zero ppm for drivers, now the same legislators stand by the chest already for the fact that the zero ppm will certainly be canceled, because it does not take into account the error of the breathalyzer.

At first, the absolute majority in the Duma called for the transfer of part of non-working days from January to May, so that the Russians could accumulate plenty on their backyards. After the transfer, it turned out that the transfer hit the economy painfully, reducing its May growth to the absolute minimum in all recent years. Now the diametrically opposed voices of the same legislators appear: by all means remove so many weekends from May and move them again, so that they do not deal a blow to the economy ...

In principle, we would hardly be surprised if we suddenly hear that representatives of the deputies corps voted to add one more day to May - just like the film “That same Munchhausen” - as an extra day of spring, which Russians will have to rejoice. At the same time, February will be limited to 27 days (28 in leap years), so that spring comes to Russia faster. And you can come up with the initiative to add a day to the summer, so that the parliamentary vacations would last for a little while, and all the legislators who did not breathe for Goa and the Maldives still spent a day relaxing on tropical beaches.

Whether the next initiative on transfer and transfer will be reduced to an empty undertaking, which, in addition, will require new billions from the federal budget. After all, the reprinting of the Labor Code alone will be spent so much money, which was enough for the gasification of dozens of settlements. I would like to believe that the initiative to the emptiness and the next hole in the budget will not be reduced, but it is hard to believe. And the reason for such mistrust is not in the excessively suspiciousness, but in the fact that all previous altercations, transfers and renames have not brought any positive moments for the state and society.

Even if we assume that the Day of Russia will be postponed, for example, on July 28 - the Day of the Baptism of Russia, will it not cause new misconceptions in a society that is multi-religious in Russia. It will take time, there will be other initiative deputies who declare that to conjugate the Day of the Baptism of Russia with the Day of Russia means to cause conflicting feelings among the Buddhist or Muslim population of the country ...

Yes, you can finish playing with these initiatives to the point that January 1, as the day of the new year, will be associated with negative. Well, of course - the deputy wakes up with his face, forgive the Olivier, - is this a reason for joy from the coming year of the next. You can also think about the transfer, for example, on January 9, when you will thoroughly oversleep and remember that he needs to be nominated for legislative work ... And the problems with 17 millions of people who continue to live below the poverty line, with corruption and the presumptuous army of local officials themselves they decide with themselves - this is not a parliamentary matter ...
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  1. Refund_SSSR
    Refund_SSSR 19 July 2013 07: 35 New
    +5
    What would be useful to do .. For a change.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 19 July 2013 07: 41 New
      +9
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      For a change.

      So they diversify their “gray” way of life with similar trousers. Whatever you do, just do nothing. Not the State Duma but the solid Octavians of Augusta ....
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 19 July 2013 07: 57 New
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        Quote: Tersky
        Whatever you do, just do nothing.

        Victor, hi
        By this they PR themselves. Who is deputy Fedorov? Nobody knew, and now he is a man who offered crap, which outraged many. A recognizable deputy is much more expensive for lobbying someone's interests, a status thing.
        1. Nicholas C.
          Nicholas C. 19 July 2013 08: 26 New
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          Demagogic article. Naturally, "the day of the collapse of the USSR" is not a holiday. And if Russia Day is combined with a holiday, for example, May 9th, then they will also save billions. It is necessary to correct.
          The iconic date of ancient Russia, not necessarily associated with baptism, is also good.
          1. Hon
            Hon 19 July 2013 08: 36 New
            +3
            October 8th standing on the river Ugra
            1. PB1995
              PB1995 19 July 2013 08: 45 New
              +3
              This is when we freed ourselves from the Mongol-Tatar yoke?
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 19 July 2013 09: 18 New
                +5
                Quote: PB1995
                This is when we freed ourselves from the Mongol-Tatar yoke?

                Not politically correct - the Tatars will be offended.
                1. smile
                  smile 19 July 2013 13: 54 New
                  +5
                  Revolver
                  Our Tatars to those. that stood on the Ugra have a very distant relationship, they were also "enslaved nation" :)))). so that to be offended and cling to someone else's glory, they don’t fig :))))
                2. Check
                  Check 19 July 2013 16: 59 New
                  +2
                  It is also not correct to transfer to the baptism of Russia, since in Russia not only Christians but also Muslims live.
          2. ben gun
            ben gun 19 July 2013 10: 12 New
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            Indeed, the celebration of the Day of Russia should be postponed to a more positive date, for example, the 9 of May. And 12 of June, 8 of December (Bialowieza Agreement) to declare a day of mourning. But certainly not on holidays.
          3. Flooding
            Flooding 19 July 2013 12: 13 New
            +9
            Quote: Nikolay S.
            The iconic date of ancient Russia, not necessarily associated with baptism, is also good

            That is, to Baptism?

            Of course, the question is not the most urgent and relevant.
            But it’s funny to me personally when I called up my colleagues (we had a working day in Moldova) and congratulated you on Independence Day? From whom? From what? Absolute nonsense.
            Which, of course, was enthusiastically received at one time in Moldova, Ukraine, but you never know where else. Well, then, they became independent from the Russian invaders.
            But in Russia ... It can be a day of statehood, unity, but not independence. And the date loses its meaning, and the holiday turns into a red mark on the calendar.

            I think it’s better to focus on the date of Moscow’s liberation from the Polish invaders. This is truly the first national liberation and unifying war.
        2. nbw
          nbw 19 July 2013 09: 59 New
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          > Who is Deputy Fedorov? No one knew

          If you did not know who the deputy Fedorov is, this is your personal grief. This man has done more for Russia in the last year or two than all the other deputies in a decade.
          1. dmb
            dmb 19 July 2013 11: 05 New
            +2
            And you can ask at least a short list of the great things done by this Giant of thought, well, apart from providing yourself and your loved ones with material benefits.
            1. nbw
              nbw 19 July 2013 12: 03 New
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              > in addition to providing themselves and their loved ones with material goods.

              That is precisely this statement - a bunch in a puddle. Did you look into his pocket? Me not.

              Evgeny Fedorov promoted bills on the ban on the export of children to the USA, on reducing the payment of “tribute” to the Fed and channeling funds to budgetary needs (this is just what I remembered right away, “offhand”). And his activity in popularizing the ideas of gaining sovereignty and bringing to the people the true state of things in Russia (for example, on the role of the United States in the collapse of the Union and the implicit governance of the Russian Federation) can hardly be overestimated.
              1. a52333
                a52333 19 July 2013 17: 13 New
                +3
                I agree with you.
              2. dmb
                dmb 19 July 2013 18: 31 New
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                Judging by how you, my dear, poke at strangers, and make bold assessments, you really have the right place in the company of those gentlemen, to whom Fedorov belongs. Of course you can not look into his pocket, but for the sake of curiosity, read the declaration of his income and family income. Very informative. And all this for one salary. The promotion of populist projects is a favorite pastime of our parliamentarians, put forward, promoted and forgot. A project or not, the tenth matter. Volfovich also promised every woman about a peasant. Fedorov’s movements from the same series. And why would this gentleman not achieve, in addition to the ban on adoption, (which, in principle, is not difficult, banned, and then the grass does not grow, to achieve allocation of real money from the budget to adoptive parents. Not those kopecks that are about a hundred times less than his deputy salary ., and real money. I think that this will be cheaper for the budget than holding the next summit, or building the next parliamentary center. Your last phrase about "popularizing the ideas of gaining sovereignty" should be cast in bronze, because this is Fedorov - a talker and a crook.
                1. nbw
                  nbw 19 July 2013 21: 44 New
                  +2
                  Oh, what a harsh rebuke ... And Fedorov speaks a lot, and does little ... This man makes, unlike the others, forgive Gspodi, p-zdobol-in-parliamentarians. And the rest of the criticism, frankly, of the kitchen and bench level, can be answered with the words of the famous poster: "A you what helped the front? "

                  PS Judging by how sarcastically you reacted to the idea of ​​"popularizing sovereignty", you do not like it / not profitable. Actually, whose will you be, comrade? :)
                  1. dmb
                    dmb 20 July 2013 11: 33 New
                    0
                    Well, hang up labels, a favorite pastime of the demagogues Fedorov and K. So what did he do besides the air shock. Besides the very controversial law on the prohibition of adoption, the author of which, by the way, was not he, but a very large group, which included the "people's carer" Katya Lakhova and the like. By the way, who from this large group of not very poor people took in support of the need for such a law. Yes, and adopted a disabled child? Nobody, including Fedorov himself. Denying is always better than solving a problem. As for the "idea." Tell me at least one, even the most bruised liberal, who publicly opposes sovereignty. So what and for whom then does Fedorov “popularize”? This, my dear, is called demagogy.
            2. a52333
              a52333 19 July 2013 17: 12 New
              +7
              Check it out. http://www.efedorov.ru/node/1000 At the same time, see the program of the National Liberation Movement. Watch a video of him and Nikolai Starikov, Marat Musin, El Murid. Basically. one team. I recommend reading the book%
              "Crisi $: how to do it." It is about liberals, and about a lot of what we are talking about here.
              1. fartfraer
                fartfraer 19 July 2013 21: 43 New
                +3
                Yes, something Marat Musin, I do not refer to the team of Fedorov. But you + for bringing to the attention of members of the forum (if anyone did not know) these names.
        3. d_trader
          d_trader 19 July 2013 12: 22 New
          +8
          This person, for your information, has done a lot and I hope to do a lot more for Russia. He did not appear yesterday, and believe him, there is nothing to do with PR. I respect Evgeni Alekseevich in every way and fully support. Watch his interview and I think change your mind about this person.
        4. Prorox
          Prorox 19 July 2013 12: 55 New
          +8
          Celebrate the part (albeit the largest) on the day of the liquidation of the whole, that's for sure crap.

          If you don’t know Fedorov, well, it was through the deputy Fedorov that the laws on banning the export of children abroad and the ban on officials to have property abroad were lobbied.
        5. Su24
          Su24 20 July 2013 00: 08 New
          +3
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Quote: Tersky
          Whatever you do, just do nothing.

          Victor, hi
          By this they PR themselves. Who is deputy Fedorov? Nobody knew, and now he is a man who offered crap, which outraged many. A recognizable deputy is much more expensive for lobbying someone's interests, a status thing.


          What makes you think that he is?

          But on the other hand, it seems that our legislators have resolved all other issues a long time ago, and they have a lot of free time to go out with systematic initiatives for postponing holidays,


          And why does the author think that public holidays are an unimportant thing? This is the sphere of ideology. The relevance of housing and communal services issues or something like that may change, but ideology in our country will never go by the wayside.
          1. igor.borov775
            igor.borov775 20 July 2013 10: 52 New
            +2
            Gentlemen, look around you are not surprised at anything, If you can’t safely be pushed into the DUMA, you just look what they baked for the country called laws, If you are comfortable then this is definitely a candidate for their relatives, Sorry to be bored already, Our DUMA always makes noise better laws, If so, why are there so many who can barely make ends meet, So many are destitute, you probably live in Moscow then the thing is different, Although there is no tragedy in PODILSK but nothing excites no excuse, But it hurts me very much annoying that it happened because of our laws, An example Italy, the famous CONCORDIA that drowned off the coast, What do you think the outcome of the trial, Correctly captains face 20 years and the company a huge fine and it can completely disappear, I’m ready for the owners of this companies will not find and the address is fake, This is about Podolsk, I remember the tragedy in Japan Fokushima, Remember the first days, Interruptions in food and essentials ty and that at least one store raised the price by at least one yen, No, our correspondents made round eyes saying the prices in the stores did not change, Everything is just a company raising the price will receive such penalties that they are unlikely to exist then and those who authorized such a decision automatically fall for a trial with real deadlines, Today EuroNews says in a mailbox that in Spain a large consignment of hash was caught; three firms were involved in its transportation, the Prosecutor told these firms that they would get such big sanctions that you can forget about them and who allowed this case to go to court and a considerable period, Why such a difference, Deputies laid the right start, Vesti-24 shows a picture and how the managers of the Central Banks of the EU and RUSSIA live, it’s very interesting it is interesting and sad, These are our legislators, They live in their own world and just ignore us, We are for they are suppliers of votes and the truth ends when they are kicked out for some reason eyes open to reality, And the caravan along with pleasant holidays left without stopping, It's a shame and sadly watching how they are eager for this beautiful SINECURA, Regards
            1. Crocodile
              Crocodile 22 July 2013 03: 21 New
              0
              "Are we suppliers of votes for them?"
              Nobody will manage with suppliers of voices like that ... Most likely they are just slaves ... And this holiday of theirs could be called Independence Day FROM PEOPLE!
      2. Hariva
        Hariva 19 July 2013 07: 58 New
        -3
        Whatever the child is amusing. Nekhay relatively harmless (the holidays endure) deal with the matter. If only "vouchers to distribute" again did not start.
        1. yustas
          yustas 19 July 2013 08: 06 New
          -1
          oh, to offer them, for the sake of diversity and the benefit of the state, to engage in logging or digging trenches, somewhere in sunny Magadan ... dreams, dreams ...
      3. yak69
        yak69 19 July 2013 08: 16 New
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        I relate very well to the articles of the author, but the emphasis here is not placed correctly. The theme of Russia’s day and the date of the celebration of statehood is a topic that is really super important and belittle its importance, this is not to demonstrate the knowledge of those subtle mechanisms on which the country's future and its success depend. In the fleet they say, "As you name a ship, it will sail." It is also known that the name of a person directly affects and in many respects shapes his fate. It is not just that when baptized as a monk, they take a different name. These are really subtle mechanisms of the device of our Universe and it is impossible to handle these processes lightly.
        For example, Chinese feng shui and astrology, to some village boob, may seem like pure bullshit, so now do not take into account those subtle mechanisms that are not visible to everyone, but nevertheless they exist and have the most direct and powerful influence on us.
        (for those who relate to this, I can say that in the Kremlin structures and the bowels of the special services, astrology and dates are always a huge influence)
        I consider it very correct and even overripe to determine the day the state celebrates. After all, this is not just a date on the calendar. This day may become a split point in society (as it is now) and an occasion to generate negative (which is already overwhelming!), Or it may become a day of real unity uniting society. Look at the holiday of Victory Day, New Year, these days the country as a whole. And in the days of our sports victories? After all, these are points of the Strength of society and it’s simply not proper to understand this educated person !!
        So, this is a matter of vital importance and we must take it very seriously. It is on such processes that the search and creation of social unity takes place.
        We must always think about WHAT WE ALL UNITE and look for these points and meanings.

        Sarcasm and stupid jokes are not at all appropriate here, they testify to a lack of understanding of the processes shaping our lives and to a poor knowledge of the problems of social development.
        It’s time to grow up and improve your cultural level, dear comrades!
        hi
        1. wk
          wk 19 July 2013 09: 33 New
          +6
          Quote: yak69
          I relate very well to the articles of the author, but the emphasis here is not placed correctly.

          You better look directly at the lectures of Fedorov in YouTube
          https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs6Agc6DvG7dZ8X4wZiGR1A
          in the original, the author is more understandable, there he is not only about the holidays .... therefore one idea taken out of context may seem absurd.
        2. Ivan.
          Ivan. 19 July 2013 16: 36 New
          +2
          Quote: yak69
          I relate very well to the articles of the author, but the emphasis here is not placed correctly. The theme of Russia’s day and the date of the celebration of statehood is a topic that is really super important and belittle its importance, this is not to demonstrate the knowledge of those subtle mechanisms on which the country's future and its success depend.

          I agree, I would add that such dates are part of the ideology of the state.
          Quote: yak69
          As you call a ship, it will sail

          I was looking for where to attach this phrase to the very obvious until I came across your comment. Essentially the most.
          Quote: yak69
          I consider it very correct and even overripe to determine the day the state celebrates. After all, this is not just a date on the calendar. This day may become a split point in society (as it is now) and an occasion to generate negative (which is already overwhelming!), Or it may become a day of real unity uniting society. Look at the holiday of Victory Day, New Year, these days the country as a whole.

          If it depended on the People, it would have matured for a long time. On May 9, the internal borders of the deceased USSR are slightly blurring, and this is very obvious.
      4. PB1995
        PB1995 19 July 2013 08: 39 New
        -8
        And what, there is a variety: previously they worked in the style of “What else to ban”, and now - “What would be transferred”. They’re doing some nonsense. I recalled a miniature from the "Comedy Club":
        - Listen, you need to come up with a passport!
        - And what is it, tsar-father?
        - This is such a birch bark certificate, to get it, you need to collect all kinds of pieces of paper. And let's come up with a passport!
        - And why?
        - To do all this garbage twice. Because we are who?
        - M *** ki?
        - No! We are a bureaucratic machine!
        1. yak69
          yak69 19 July 2013 08: 47 New
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          Quote: PB1995
          I recalled a miniature from the "Comedy Club":

          Watching the “gum club” indicates a low level of intelligence and complete lack of respect for oneself as a citizen of a great country.
          Plato at one time said that a person, coming to the market, carefully selects food for food, so as not to recover. So, it is necessary with the same care to select everything that your eyes and ears consume! After all, such “food” (like “gum club”) poisons the soul and consciousness.
          It's time to break away from the trough and look more often at the sky, at the stars !!!!!
          1. grafrozow
            grafrozow 19 July 2013 11: 34 New
            -6
            Quote: yak69
            Watching the “gum club” indicates a low level of intelligence and complete lack of respect for oneself as a citizen of a great country.

            And Our Rush? Are you a fan of Petrosyan?
            1. yak69
              yak69 19 July 2013 15: 31 New
              +9
              Quote: grafrozow
              Are you a fan of Petrosyan?

              A vulgar vodka - that’s how I would name all these entertainment concerts on our TV. It seems that the TV bosses all the people consider for a natural * fuck!
              You can watch Zadornov, Zhvanetsky, if you really want to have fun and laugh, there are good old Soviet comedies. You look at these and the soul is lighter and brighter, and the “gum club” - “humor below the belt”, vulgarity and rascality. For example, I watch old Soviet comedians-storytellers: Igor Ilnsky, Irakli Andronikov - you can burst with laughter! Look, you will not regret it. At the same time, expand your horizons.
              hi
              1. grafrozow
                grafrozow 19 July 2013 22: 21 New
                -5
                Quote: yak69
                For example, I watch old Soviet comedians-storytellers: Igor Ilnsky, Irakli Andronikov - you can burst with laughter! Look, you will not regret it. At the same time, expand your horizons.

                But what about Plug and Tarapunka? I’m not saying that everything is perfect in gum, but not everything is bad, I’ll broaden my horizons, and you, intellectually, don’t agree with anyone who does not agree with you. Do you have a medical education? Plato is my friend, but truth is more expensive. lol
          2. yak69
            yak69 19 July 2013 15: 39 New
            +7
            I see the fans of the "gum club" broke away from the trough and actively minus! They are offended that the trash was called by their real name. laughing
            Tell me what you read (look, listen) and I will tell you who you are.
            1. grafrozow
              grafrozow 20 July 2013 01: 05 New
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              Quote: yak69
              I see the fans of the "gum club" broke away from the trough and actively minus! They are offended that the trash was called by their real name.
              Tell me what you read (look, listen) and I will tell you who you are.

              Culture is rushing over the edge.
              Quote: yak69
              It's time to break away from the trough and look more often at the sky, at the stars !!!!!
              On Kemlevsky, perhaps !!!!
              And the funniest thing that I like to watch with my family is the report of L.I. Brezhnev to the 25th Congress of the Communist Party of the SS on the work done, that’s where you will laugh. lol
              wassat
    2. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 19 July 2013 08: 26 New
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      Holidays that destroy the unity of our society are not needed. In this case, the "holiday" is the "Independence Day of Russia", or as it is now called the "Day of Russia". From him more harm than good.
      It’s better to remove this holiday altogether and not transfer it anywhere.
      In extreme cases, combine with Constitution Day, although this is also not so hot any “holiday”, has changed so many times that it also causes allergies. Moreover, the modern Constitution of the Russian Federation requires changes, since it contains provisions that destroy the unity of Russia.
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 19 July 2013 09: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: vladimirZ
        It’s better to remove this holiday altogether and not transfer it anywhere.

        That would be true.
        Well, Zhenya Fedorov once again just reminds himself that they would not forget.
      2. Furnace driver
        Furnace driver 19 July 2013 09: 36 New
        +6
        Quote: vladimirZ
        It’s better to remove this holiday altogether and not transfer it anywhere.

        Support.
    3. krasin
      krasin 19 July 2013 09: 05 New
      +4
      One of the deputies in favor of canceling the celebration of Russia Day 12

      12th black day of Russia - “blanket day” It will be more correct to appoint another day-day of Russia. I support!
      1. a52333
        a52333 19 July 2013 17: 19 New
        +3
        Or maybe it’s better not the “day of the blanket”, but the day of the “30 silver coins”?
    4. keeper
      keeper 19 July 2013 09: 33 New
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      Well, you got wound up. You would not be too lazy, but would have known that the same Fedorov and the initiative group were co-authors of the law on foreign agents. Their initiative is about the nationalization of the Central Bank. Their main task on all fronts (informational, financial, ideological) is to adopt packages of bills on the FULL independence of the country. Their initiative and organization of the campaign "Media - Stop Lying". The same media about the meetings delicately kept silent. It is necessary to win positions on all fronts.
      Basically, the author’s position is close to me on other issues, but he can’t monitor all things.
    5. Vadivak
      Vadivak 19 July 2013 09: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      What would be useful to do.


      When a male has nothing to do ....
    6. Corsair
      Corsair 19 July 2013 12: 04 New
      -4
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      What would be useful to do .. For a change.

      THEY and quietly, Russia, somewhere they’d like to transfer ... what
    7. a52333
      a52333 19 July 2013 16: 58 New
      +1
      Yes, you will familiarize yourself with his other bills, and then pour mud:
      Only one bill of his group "on the nationalization of the Central Bank" is worth what !!!
      1. Edward
        Edward 19 July 2013 18: 14 New
        +4
        My friend!
        Fedorov - just a parrot!
        All "his" bills, the purpose of his words - is to relieve tension in the people, through SPEAKING about what the people dream of, but that is unfulfilled and ignored by the authorities.
        Fedorov knows perfectly what he does and when to do it.
        He ties all the initiatives of other Duma groups to “himself,” that is, to his group. (About Everything I certainly bent, consider this an exaggeration).

        Is the law on the nationalization of the Central Bank unless Fedorov and Ko the first to offer ?!
        So you study the question of who is listening and picking up for whom.
        ...................................................
        About the article.
        I would agree with a friend yak69, if not for "fen-astrological-shui" .. Having removed them, does something change? - NOTHING! So "they" are EXTRA (I say "fen-shu").
        I will give something with which I completely agree in the message yak69
        Quote: yak69
        I relate very well to the articles of the author, but the emphasis here is not placed correctly. The theme of the day of Russia and the date of the celebration of statehood is a topic that is really super important and belittle its importance, it is not to demonstrate the knowledge of those subtle mechanisms on which the country's future and its success depend. ...

        Further, yak69 simply searches for an explanation of what is said by itself, based on "its philosophy." But this is just not interesting to me personally - all people are different and it doesn’t matter from which side a person comes to the right one.
        1. Edward
          Edward 21 July 2013 19: 37 New
          +2
          For all voters it’s incognito, as well as everyone who is not interested in thinking that:
          - why do some individuals who come from nowhere suddenly start to give answers on the central channels of all kinds of media, I give an example of another character “a la Fedorov”:
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KdmCk3T748#at=36

          Notice how cleverly the Snowden theme merges. How it is covered up and dissolved in trinkets about "bulk", with the further transfer of conversation to other areas directly unrelated to the question asked. - This is also a drain. And this guy knows what and how to talk.
          This character even has voice intonations similar to those to which the author of the article refers in this thread!

          Bulk - pid.ra.y! Definitely.
          But what are the names of those who are the same people who play and hide with the people? How to evaluate these nonhumans?
    8. starshina78
      starshina78 19 July 2013 22: 18 New
      -1
      I would advise deputies to eliminate this holiday altogether. So there are too many holidays. Ask people: “What is the holiday of June 12?”, And I say one hundred percent that four fifths of the number of respondents will not tell you. Yes, many will be angry at this holiday. No matter how much I like what I’ll write now, but this is my opinion - it is necessary to do as it was in the Union. They rested in the USSR: January 1, May 1 and 2, March 8, November 7, and on Constitution Day (I don’t remember when it was celebrated). Despite the fact that in the tear-off calendar, when you tear off a piece of paper, you find out that some holiday falls on a certain day off, such as "Day of the Machine Tool Builder", "Day of the Worker of the Oil and Gas Industry", etc. . Since even in connection with the transfer of the holiday associated with May Day, they worked for Easter. The people immediately composed a ditty: “Thanks to the native party for love and affection. They took the day off, they spoiled Easter!” We need to work more and not walk for ten days. and walk the country.
  2. oleg_2003
    oleg_2003 19 July 2013 07: 44 New
    +9
    The initiative is good, the article is bad.
    Although the article talks about the creation of the deputy group “Russian Sovereignty” - at least people will find out - it’s already good.
  3. makst83
    makst83 19 July 2013 07: 52 New
    +3
    Until the 2002 year, I always celebrated the day of the city of Perm ..... Why not move this day to 9 in May, because then we defended our independence! Can a “VO” vote on this subject !?
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 19 July 2013 08: 22 New
      13
      I agree, VICTORY DAY is the main national holiday, without any cunning inventions.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 19 July 2013 09: 22 New
        +9
        Quote: sergey32
        I agree, VICTORY DAY is the main national holiday, without any cunning inventions.

        Therefore, it is not necessary to trash it with additions and changes.
  4. fzr1000
    fzr1000 19 July 2013 07: 55 New
    0
    Deputies are dull loafers. Only very expensive they cost us. To disperse them.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 19 July 2013 17: 24 New
      0
      Quote: fzr1000
      Deputies are dull loafers. Only very expensive they cost us. To disperse them.

      How's that?
      "The guard is tired" © sailor Zheleznyakov

      Like that?
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 19 July 2013 19: 43 New
        -4
        Abolish entot useless organ. It is possible with the help of sailors. They can’t do anything well not even the first time. And NEVER ask the opinion of the people.
  5. deman73
    deman73 19 July 2013 08: 07 New
    -4
    our people's representatives, in my opinion, have nothing to do
  6. Ustas
    Ustas 19 July 2013 08: 10 New
    +6
    Leave only two holidays in Russia: New Year and Victory Day. Everything else is lyrics.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 19 July 2013 08: 31 New
      -2
      Laws, therefore, are called normative acts which govern certain social relations in society. When legislative acts are adopted, there is a long process, such as an assessment by experts and consideration in several readings. Here the question arises: once the law has passed all stages of adoption and its further change after a short time indicates a hurry to adopt a law like a bang, then we’ll take it and there, whatever happens.Chekhard with laws speaks generally about the leapfrog of the work of the State Duma.
      The adopted laws are designed for a long time, changes can be made after a certain time and are designed so that changes are made taking into account changes in certain circumstances. I have the feeling that the deputies have passed accelerated specific sewing and cutting courses.

      quote-And the problems with the 17 millions of people who continue to live below the poverty line, with corruption and an army of local officials who have gone too far will solve themselves - this is not a deputy’s business ...

      The author is right, Aleksei, one might think that there are no other more important matters. The article is plus and the work of the deputies is minus.
    2. yak69
      yak69 19 July 2013 08: 40 New
      +6
      Quote: Ustas
      Leave only two holidays in Russia: New Year and Victory Day. Everything else is lyrics.

      I would still leave the celebration of the day of the Great October Socialist Revolution. This is the starting point of a truly new era in the history of all mankind. And for us this date is all the more relevant to this day.
      1. igor.borov775
        igor.borov775 19 July 2013 10: 11 New
        +2
        Hello, Just adopted the amendments to the Labor Code, Very serious amendments would have known the authors, It’s sad to read such things, Legislation prohibiting discrimination in hiring sex has been added by AGE, And it’s accepted now, How long our legislators have matured is incomprehensible , And this is a strange democratic society where we live in horror, After ten years we will celebrate, I think they will not keep silent, But in vain the history of our country should be known, After all, interesting conclusions beg us all to equal our rights, It's great, but for some reason it's very bitter to watch to the reign of democracy, So who then were the Bolsheviks, It was they who in terrible years adopted very interesting laws, Remind, They first for the first time in the world equalized women in rights, In all rights without any restrictions, Kolontay has achieved the adoption of so many laws to protect the rights of all people exclusively all this our deputy did not even dream of. It turns out that we have had to pass amendments different times,
    3. Gato
      Gato 19 July 2013 10: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: Ustas
      Leave only two holidays in Russia: New Year and Victory Day. Everything else is lyrics.

      And February 23?
      1. yak69
        yak69 19 July 2013 15: 59 New
        +5
        Quote: Gato
        And February 23?

        On March 8, and indeed, there was a wonderful Soviet tradition - each branch of the national economy had its own holiday. And it is wise! Each worker in our country had the opportunity to celebrate his creative work with a well-deserved holiday.
        Glory to the man of labor is the true meaning of all these Soviet undertakings. And independence day is about what ?! I think this is a holiday of liberals - a day of independence from obligations to society and the law, independence from one’s own responsibility for committed evil !!
  7. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 19 July 2013 08: 13 New
    +3
    If only to change, change, transfer. The bored deputy, he makes proposals, in the stump of Fedorov and his idea there too. It would be better to make a proposal to abolish parliamentary immunity, this is more relevant for the people.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 19 July 2013 08: 38 New
      +6
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      It would be better to make a proposal to abolish parliamentary immunity, this is more relevant for the people.



      Entirely and completely support. They are fenced off by immunity from anyone ?! From the people or from the authorities ?!
      If it’s from the people, then what kind of “servants” of the people are it, but if it’s from the authorities, then it’s not all clean.
      1. Anti
        Anti 20 July 2013 13: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Apollon
        on the abolition of parliamentary immunity-


        You swung on the holy. You they will not forgive this. They are here on the site and pass you into quiet lol
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 21 July 2013 22: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: Anti
          You swung on the holy. You they will not forgive this. They are here on the site and pass you into quiet


          Where is your old avatar ?! laughing
          1. studentmati
            studentmati 21 July 2013 22: 42 New
            +1
            Where is your old avatar ?! laughing

            I think that it would be nice to consider maintaining the previous avatars and rating scale from article to article? This will help all participants in the site to evaluate the intellectual and professional level of the opponent.
            1. Anti
              Anti 21 July 2013 23: 44 New
              -1
              Quote: studentmati
              evaluate the intellectual and professional level of the opponent


              Dear intellectual, you were so annoyed by my previous avatar that I don’t drink with p.i.d.a.r.p. lol
              1. studentmati
                studentmati 21 July 2013 23: 49 New
                0
                Bon appetit and success in everything! I say without any irony and mockery, if I offended you with anything, I apologize!
                1. Anti
                  Anti 21 July 2013 23: 56 New
                  0
                  Quote: studentmati
                  I say without any irony and mockery, if I offended you with anything, I apologize!


                  This alone is more than an insult, but to me on the drum, continue your journey to the treasured peak. And success to you. hi-
                  1. studentmati
                    studentmati 22 July 2013 00: 13 New
                    0
                    I’m not trying to offend, let alone offend. I don’t drink with fag too. If there is, in essence, I’m ready to listen and discuss.
                    1. Anti
                      Anti 22 July 2013 00: 38 New
                      0
                      Quote: studentmati
                      If there is, in essence, I’m ready to listen and discuss.


                      If only, write easier and get caught, or do you think the more abstruse words the more intelligent? By the way, how did you get around the filter?
                      1. studentmati
                        studentmati 22 July 2013 00: 43 New
                        0
                        I myself love simplicity in presentation. I hate filters. Question about filter bypass did not understand?
          2. Anti
            Anti 21 July 2013 22: 51 New
            -1
            Quote: Apollon
            Where is your old avatar ?!


            IT does not work, i.e. doesn't move as before sad Or are you talking about this ava? laughing
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 21 July 2013 22: 55 New
              +1
              Quote: Anti
              IT does not work, i.e. doesn't move as before


              all the same, the former was "dearer" lol
              1. studentmati
                studentmati 21 July 2013 23: 20 New
                0
                Once again, I will express my vision that each "body movement" of the site participant should be historically displayed. In this way, we can appreciate the true face of a colleague. For example, if you look distantly, for example, the “Professor” most often having a negative rating is a “radish”, although in fact it is a very competent specialist and a real intellectual. And the newcomer, who caught minuses, at the beginning of the "career", and through the system, can easily advance into the marshals. soldier
            2. Apollo
              Apollo 21 July 2013 23: 21 New
              +1
              Quote: Anti
              Or are you talking about this ava?


              yes laughing easier minus affix it with no other confuse.
              I’ll explain minus to you for not changing your avatar.
              1. Anti
                Anti 21 July 2013 23: 30 New
                0
                Quote: Apollon
                easier minus affix it with no other confuse.


                weighty as always laughing What does the friend with Ava "frame" want a little shit? request
              2. Anti
                Anti 22 July 2013 01: 48 New
                +1
                Quote: Apollon
                I’ll explain minus to you for not changing your avatar.


                Your countryman doesn’t respect you at all and the avatar removed and minus did not get lol

                like that!! laughing
                1. studentmati
                  studentmati 22 July 2013 01: 51 New
                  0
                  Nice comment! What's next?
                  1. Anti
                    Anti 22 July 2013 01: 57 New
                    +1
                    Quote: studentmati
                    What's next?


                    And then the court laughing laughing laughing
                    1. studentmati
                      studentmati 22 July 2013 01: 58 New
                      0
                      "Soviet court, the most humane court in the world ...."
  8. Ascetic
    Ascetic 19 July 2013 08: 29 New
    16
    "George Herbert Walker Bush (born George Herbert Walker Bush; b. June 12, 1924 (19240612), Milton, Massachusetts) - 41st US president (1989-1993)" ... So Russia marks the whole country the birthday of the winner of the Cold War ... The declaration of independence as an act of surrender in the Cold War turns out to be presented as a gift to the birthday winner.

    For me, only two dates make sense -June 22 and May 9, everything else is an extra day off, even the New Year with age is perceived as an ordinary event and not as a holiday.
    1. Fox
      Fox 19 July 2013 08: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: Ascetic
      For me, only two dates make sense -June 22 and May 9

      after the service, I have these and another Intelligence Day. The rest: "I would rather end."
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 19 July 2013 09: 08 New
        +5
        Quote: Fox
        after the service, I have these and another Intelligence Day. The rest: "I would rather end."


        A professional holiday is important for every person, because this is what you gave the best years of your life to. I mean the dates that unite and bind us all as one people, regardless of political views, religious beliefs and nationality. June 12, like November 4, did not become such holidays.
      2. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 19 July 2013 12: 54 New
        0
        Quote: Fox
        after the service, I have these and another Intelligence Day. The rest: "I would rather end."

        May 28th ... DAY OF BLONDS? FORGOTTEN, or something about him !?
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 19 July 2013 20: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: KazaK Bo
          May 28th ... DAY OF BLONDS? FORGOTTEN, or something about him !?


          May 28, actually the Day of the border guard, for blondes can be very offended ..
          So be careful and you can run into.
          By the way, on the same day in Azerbaijan, Republic Day and Armenia are celebrating the Day of Restoring Sovereignty .. So hot Caucasian guys can also be seriously offended by blondes ... angry
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 19 July 2013 09: 45 New
      +5
      Quote: Ascetic
      New Year is perceived as an ordinary event with age


      What is this holiday? Inevitable blow to the liver
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 19 July 2013 12: 05 New
        +3
        Quote: Vadivak
        What is this holiday? Inevitable blow to the liver


        Then it’s better seven Fridays a week. By the way today is Friday, all a happy holiday! drinks
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 19 July 2013 12: 33 New
          +4
          Quote: Ascetic
          By the way today is Friday, all a happy holiday

          Stanislav, hi ! drinks Thank! In the people this day of the week is designated as bath-glass, and the name of the day of the week is renamed "Tjapnitsa" (the root of the word is clear and understandable) laughing
  9. Lech
    Lech 19 July 2013 08: 43 New
    0
    Alex, as always, opened the topic from all sides, well done! But the date, marked as the Day of Russia, and earlier Independence Day, you must admit, is still dubious. It turns out we celebrate the Day of the Collapse of the Great Country. It was necessary to somehow report to the gentlemen star-striped. But if in fact, then most of the days in our country can be considered the Day of Russia, since our Great History is rich in those days where our ancestors gained Independence and Freedom of our Motherland, as well as built and lifted it from ruins. Just do the fuck deputies ...
  10. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 19 July 2013 08: 45 New
    +8
    On this day it is not necessary to celebrate, but to put candles in the church, in the awareness of what happened ...
  11. treskoed
    treskoed 19 July 2013 08: 52 New
    +1
    Day of advance, pay, pensions - eternal holidays !!!!
  12. runway
    runway 19 July 2013 08: 52 New
    +5
    Russia should have its own holiday. Then I agree with yak69. The question is who should determine it. in any case, not a deputy Fedorov, not a deputy faction and not a thought.
    I believe that the question of the choice of options should be directed to historians. A specific date must be approved by popular vote.
    1. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 19 July 2013 13: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: piston
      The question is who should determine it.

      Absolutely right. After all, each person, voluntarily or not freely, but carries a subjective beginning ... One likes the celebration to be set for May 28 (BLOND DAY), the other for January 7 (CHRISTMAS), etc. ... and this should be the NATIONAL HOLIDAY, but to determine it not as determined on November 4, when under the guise of liberation from the Polish invasion (in the amount of about 1 troops), we actually celebrate the "TUSHIN STAND" , "civil war" of some boyars against others (here the number of troops is already determined by tens of thousands).
      We determine the 10 best places of RUSSIA announced on TV! Great! So let's announce on the same TV - WHEN WE SHOULD CELEBRATE RUSSIA'S DAY !? And we will hear the voice of the people!
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 19 July 2013 20: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: KazaK Bo
        We determine the 10 best places of RUSSIA announced on TV! Great! So let's announce on the same TV - WHEN WE SHOULD CELEBRATE RUSSIA'S DAY !? And we will hear the voice of the people!


        By the way, at the contest Russia 10 there is a second stage of voting. The leader is the Kolomna Kremlin –693 votes, then the Akhmat Kadyrov Mosque “The Heart of Chechnya” - 924, then the Bogoroditsky Museum-Reserve goes with a solid margin - 563 votes.
        You can look at the site of the same name site link

        So the voice of the people most likely recognizes the mosque as a symbol of Russia, and the day of Russia will be celebrated as the day of signing the Khasavyurt agreements,
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 19 July 2013 20: 46 New
          +2
          It is necessary to vote for Kolomna. It is really beautiful there. Especially the Marinkina tower, which is not particularly shown to tourists
    2. Ivan.
      Ivan. 19 July 2013 17: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: piston
      Russia should have its own holiday. Then I agree with yak69. The question is who should determine it. in any case, not a deputy Fedorov, not a deputy faction and not a thought.
      I believe that the question of the choice of options should be directed to historians. A specific date must be approved by popular vote.

      I think this date has not happened yet, but is very close. Not all nations will be close to a certain date and nothing unites so much as a joint struggle, but there is something to fight for. The only thing left is to unite, I am afraid they will do it for us and will not seem enough. What a person, people is worth can be easily understood only in battle, war, therefore it is important to know your history, you need to continue to dig archives and restore past events.
  13. King
    King 19 July 2013 09: 03 New
    +4
    June 12th - it should not be a holiday, but a day of mourning. the day when the USSR finally receded into the past and our country plunged into a period of devastation and chaos. It is necessary to nationalize the central bank - the adoption of such a decree will take place and will be Independence Day.!
  14. Mr.
    Mr. Gambu4aS 19 July 2013 09: 11 New
    +3
    The State Duma is a gang of pot-bellied mediocrity, among whom there are those who cannot because of their mental abilities (approx. Valuev), while others do not want to because they are already happy with the cut of the country (wife in the Maldives, children in Oxford), well, that a rotten organism can offer an ideological one except how to transfer holidays every year and change summer time to winter, everything is easier than lifting a country off its knees negative
  15. Asgard
    Asgard 19 July 2013 09: 19 New
    0
    Fedorov, Kolya Starikov, Kurginyan ...
    well guys, you don’t see that these are “projects” and very .., so to say, “low quality ...
    Yes, they say "their part of the truth" ... permitted)))
    And THIS is really the way they say .... but you don’t go there ...
    First of all, they’ll talk)))) tapa by transferring Dates of "holidays" and unnecessary bills ....
    Secondly, they will “reveal” socially active CITIZENS OF RUSSIA ... Accordingly, they will take control and then something will happen to you ...
    (Do you remember the "fairy tale" about the priest Gapon ???? or remind YOU?))))
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 19 July 2013 10: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: Asgard
      Fedorov, Kolya Starikov, Kurginyan ...

      I agree. Without guardianship, they are maximum bloggers. And so are the deputies, writers and leaders of movements named after themselves.
    2. oleg_2003
      oleg_2003 20 July 2013 11: 06 New
      +2
      about kurginyana agree
  16. Gardamir
    Gardamir 19 July 2013 09: 20 New
    +1
    Make June 12 a weekday and forget it. No need to carry anything anywhere.
  17. builder
    builder 19 July 2013 09: 41 New
    +2
    When the dog has nothing to do, she starts licking eggs. (this is about deputies)
    June 12 is a holiday for small town fascists (Bandera, SS veterans and other bastards.)
  18. tambourine 2012
    tambourine 2012 19 July 2013 09: 51 New
    +4
    According to the authors of the initiative, the date of June 12, 1990 - the adoption at the Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR of the "Declaration on State Sovereignty of the RSFSR", which (the date) served as the occasion for the creation of a new state holiday, is clearly not the starting point with which such holiday as Russia Day. Criminals begin to hide evidence can end feel?
  19. andrey903
    andrey903 19 July 2013 09: 52 New
    0
    legislative itching
  20. leon-iv
    leon-iv 19 July 2013 09: 56 New
    +1
    I’d love to add to May. At the cottage, have an extra day to relax.
  21. nbw
    nbw 19 July 2013 09: 56 New
    +5
    Dear author of the article, is engaged in demagogy. Something like this is often done by liberal gay men, such as "why spend money on the army and navy, because we have a housing and communal services in poor condition," "why do we take part in geopolitical battles, because our poor doctors get so little," etc.

    Russia Day is a symbol, first of all, and a country, a people without symbols is a rotten amorphous mass. For 20 years, our geopolitical “friends” have been trying to deprive us of all symbols, and in some ways, even succeeded.

    And when one of the main symbols of the present "Russian Federation" is the day of the death of Greater Russia - this is wrong, and this must be corrected.

    The state is a system; everything is interconnected in it. And our housing and communal services were brought into the present state precisely because our government is largely anti-people, many of its representatives work to the detriment of the country, and the people bear blinders in front of their eyes, kindly put on by the "liberal-democratic media."
  22. Dejavu
    Dejavu 19 July 2013 10: 47 New
    +3
    On June 12, I have absolutely no festive notes in my soul. Rather, the opposite. Some kind of viscous feeling of indignation, which I want to drive further into the depths and not turn to him.

    Russia Day should be celebrated either on the day of the founding of Russia, naturally with an absolutely lantern date. Either really November 4 / May 9, but then it does not make sense to call it Russia Day, because these are very specific dates for specific events. Yes, and May 9 is more like the day of the USSR, and not of Russia in the aspect that it is now being perceived.

    However, the fact that Russia’s day is really causing grief rather than joy is a fact. No matter how joyful the dancers danced on the Red Square with the subsequent fireworks.
  23. shpuntik
    shpuntik 19 July 2013 11: 07 New
    -5

    June 12, 1990 is definitely not a holiday. On which day to transfer? I did not understand something from the article, what Fedorov himself offers?
    Fedorov himself correctly says everything except finance. In this matter, Stepan Demura is more versed.
    1. nbw
      nbw 19 July 2013 11: 49 New
      +3
      Demura is a clown swindler.
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik 19 July 2013 16: 18 New
        0
        nbw RU Today, 11:49 ↑
        Demura is a clown swindler.

        Is there an objection to the case? Or do you think you need to sell ideas, not value added? Or is the Central Bank of Demur lying?
        And what is he a clown? Didn’t say anything funny after all, right? Well, I could not restrain myself, I cursed, I can understand a person: he is shocked that people like Fedorov are in charge of the Duma. Swearing is when a mate is used in everyday speech, here is another case.
        Here is the clowning for you, the beginning of the end- "no, no, no, we want today ..." (many then laughed, who remembers hi ):
  24. Sharingan
    Sharingan 19 July 2013 11: 08 New
    -1
    And the deputies have no more serious problems. And the idea of ​​celebrating Russia Day on May 9 is generally crazy.
    1. Alex Nick
      Alex Nick 19 July 2013 11: 50 New
      -1
      Well, we went to work, occupied ourselves with something. Is it good to be a deputy, go there to work or what? A smart face is not a problem to flatten.
      1. Alex Nick
        Alex Nick 20 July 2013 13: 28 New
        -1
        Look, I didn’t like it! So to the point.
  25. Zheka Varangian
    Zheka Varangian 19 July 2013 11: 14 New
    +2
    Hello everybody! And I will still celebrate, after all, my day!
  26. Felis
    Felis 19 July 2013 11: 14 New
    +2
    In my opinion, the indignant community gathered here does not imagine the legislative work in the slightest way.
    This initiative is one of dozens and hundreds of others that are reviewed daily.
    And this does not mean at all that the whole parliamentary fraternity will now be lurking for only a month and not do anything else.
    Turn on your brains.
    The author apparently did not sleep well before writing and got up on the wrong foot. Morning gray mood grew into such a nagging in his article.
    Is that what he has, analytics like that? So you can see whether to play with the initiatives ...
    You can play out with anything, including with farce articles. Do not lose your image, Alexey, another time just turn on objectivity.
  27. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 19 July 2013 11: 19 New
    +1
    1. Do you need Russia Day?
    I need it. There is no doubt about that.
    Does the 12 June date correspond to this Day?
    No, it doesn't. Talk that 12 of June is the day of the collapse of the Great Country with a capital letter was, is and will be. And they really correspond to the Truth.

    2. Any changes in the date of the celebration of the Day of Russia in any case diminish respect for the celebration of this event. It turns out that they celebrated on one day, now, all citizens, Ales, forgot about this day, we celebrate on another. Or maybe after 10 years we’ll change our minds, and we will enjoy this happiness on a completely different day. Profanity is obtained as turning the toggle switch on and off, and not pride for the Country. And this also corresponds to the Truth.
    Do not forget that a whole generation has grown up, in whose heads this date is postponed as the Day of Russia. What to do with them, as well as with us?

    If you change the date, then this should not be an ordinary event. First, the justification for changing the date is needed, and this initiative should go from the very top. Secondly, a wide discussion by the entire population of this change and options for the day. The new date should not be “assigned”, but perceived by the whole people as the real date of the Day of Russia. This should be an event that has already been put off in the head as historically significant. The digging of meticulous historians with excavations of some crap, which in fact turned out to be for some reason the most archival and about which for some reason no one has yet known, is the wrong way.
    The process of changing the date of the celebration itself should strengthen the authority of the holiday, otherwise, unfortunately, it makes no sense to change this date.
    Those. There is no simple solution to this issue. You need to do this very seriously, thoughtfully and carefully, and not just change the stroke of the pen. And how deputies sounded it now is nothing more than populism ... on a very delicate topic.

    And we have something to be proud of, we are a strong people.
  28. lawyer
    lawyer 19 July 2013 11: 51 New
    -1
    There are no more problems in the country, how to change the holidays, then fagots forbid smoking, but they are silent about important problems, we have 1 million abortions in our country and they all are silent like fish, all to the wall of deputies. am
    1. shpuntik
      shpuntik 19 July 2013 16: 07 New
      +1
      lawyer RU Today, 11:51 in our country 1 million abortions and they all are silent like fish, all to the wall of deputies.

      Daniel, and this shiksa has a winged, which is in boots, had no abortion laughing ?
  29. Vadim-Skeptic
    Vadim-Skeptic 19 July 2013 11: 52 New
    +2
    In the blog of N. Starikov was his note about changing the date of the Day of Russia and an email was presented where to send proposals for the new date. I sent such a proposal "I believe that Russia Day should be celebrated on October 22 (November 2), because on this day in 1721, Peter 1, at the request of the Senate and the Synod, accepted the title of Peter the Great, Father of the Fatherland and All-Russian Emperor. The same the date should be considered the actual date of the proclamation of Russia by the empire.This was preceded by the signing on August 30 (September 10) of 1721 of the Nistadt Peace Treaty with Sweden, which put an end to the protracted Northern War. , Estonia and Livonia) turned the country into a great European power. "
    Russia Day must be established. And then there is nothing to celebrate except Victory Day.
  30. d_trader
    d_trader 19 July 2013 12: 39 New
    +4
    Evgeny Fedorov June 28, 2013
    Talk about the unrest in Brazil, the destruction of Russian science, the Russian government’s administration network from the USA, the CIA runaway agent Snowden, the mechanisms for passing laws by the State Duma, the information war, the constitution of bans and people who don't care what happens to the country.
  31. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 19 July 2013 12: 53 New
    +5
    Enough with your paws to touch May 9. This is the Victory Day of the USSR over Germany and Co. and it is not necessary to stick any other holidays to it.
  32. okosl
    okosl 19 July 2013 13: 49 New
    0
    Have you heard the main news? The authorities have leaked the entire database about all of us into the network, block access to your data while it is possible (find yourself and click close access)! Here is the site- http://vbazes.gu.ma
  33. slaventi
    slaventi 19 July 2013 14: 59 New
    +6

    Of course you have to transfer. This is a tragic date. Not so long ago it was called Independence Day, Only from whom?
    1. redwar6
      redwar6 20 July 2013 02: 52 New
      +2
      As one friend of mine says, the day on which something no longer depends on Russia.
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  35. slaventi
    slaventi 19 July 2013 15: 09 New
    +4
    12 June 1990, when the Congress of People's Deputies of the Republic adopted the Declaration on State Sovereignty of the RSFSR. On December 12, 1991, the Supreme Council of the RSFSR denounced the 1936 Treaty on the Formation of the USSR [6] inoperative from the 1922 of the year [7] and recalled Russian deputies from the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, celebrated annually since the 1992 of the year. Regardless of whom, the Soviet Union fell as a result of treason Gorbachev and K, it was historical Russia, millions of our compatriots remained abroad, the Russians became a divided nation. A national and state disaster occurred. As a result, an occupational power system has developed in the country. Russia has turned It collapsed into the colony of the United States and its vassals. This led to such losses that they are comparable to those of the Great Patriotic War. Economic losses are already greater than in the Great Patriotic War, human losses are approaching them. Culture, education are being destroyed, people are being actively decomposed by the media. But the yoke even the worst does not happen forever. I think that soon we will have a real holiday for Russia, when it actually becomes free.
  36. Captain45
    Captain45 19 July 2013 15: 25 New
    -1
    About a week and a half ago, one very vaguely clever deputy from Vladivostok suggested transferring the Amur riverbed to 500km. It’s more severe, you see, it’s cold in Vladik in the winter. We have discussed all his proposal for a week, but now they don’t remember his last name. So these "deputies" , it’s necessary to show that it’s like they’re busy, they offered to postpone the holiday, although the harm from this will be less than from changing the Amur’s channel. It would be better honestly, nobly, on the air talked about your salaries, benefits, and what you gained during the meetings. So after all they will not say, to be afraid.
  37. svoboda1970
    svoboda1970 19 July 2013 15: 30 New
    0
    many Russians in the early 90s and the date of June 12 are associated with the collapse of the Soviet Union, and the collapse of the country is unlikely to ever be perceived as a national holiday.

    Here I agree to all 100 ...

    Our deputies are divided into certain groups that practice who will surpass whom in terms of untimely and often difficult to explain initiatives.

    ICD mode. Imitation of ebullient activity.
    Like, it’s not in vain that we eat our bread (yours, that is ours) ... negative
  38. sprut
    sprut 19 July 2013 15: 31 New
    +1
    Of course, it is necessary to transfer the Day of Russia from July 12 to another day. Our history is much more than 1000 years old, so why cut yourself in advance. We do not need to be taught how to live, we ourselves will teach anyone!
  39. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 19 July 2013 16: 31 New
    0
    Let the holiday be postponed, and let them leave the day off on June 12 wink
    The Duma stopped thinking ... what
  40. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 19 July 2013 16: 32 New
    0
    Quote: nbw
    If you did not know who the deputy Fedorov is, this is your personal grief. This man has done more for Russia in the last year or two than all the other deputies in a decade.
    Quote: d_trader
    This person, for your information, has done a lot and I hope to do a lot more for Russia.
    Quote: Prorox
    If you don’t know Fedorov, well, it was through the deputy Fedorov that the laws on banning the export of children abroad and the ban on officials to have property abroad were lobbied.
    Quote: wk
    You better look directly at the lectures of Fedorov in YouTube
    in the original, the author is more understandable, there he is not only about the holidays .... therefore one idea taken out of context may seem absurd.
    Quote: keeper
    You would not be too lazy, but would have known that the same Fedorov and the initiative group were co-authors of the law on foreign agents. Their initiative is about the nationalization of the Central Bank. Their main task on all fronts (informational, financial, ideological) is to adopt packages of bills on the FULL independence of the country.

    1. d_trader
      d_trader 19 July 2013 17: 33 New
      +1
      Echo of Moscow is of course the voice of the people! You yourself would have listened to what nonsense this agent Alexandrova carries, one blah blah, not a single constructive analysis because there is nothing to say. they can only water with mud.
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 19 July 2013 18: 41 New
        0
        Quote: d_trader
        one blah blah, not a single constructive analysis, for there is nothing to say. they can only water with mud.
        Do you know how a normal person differs from oligophrenic? I will tell you.

        A normal person differs from oligophrenic in that before he categorically states that the information provided is false, he checks it, moreover, in this case, the verification algorithm is part of the information.

        Quote: d_trader
        Echo of Moscow is of course the voice of the people!
        This made me especially happy - especially against the background of the fact that Fedorov himself repeatedly visited the echo of the matzo laughing
        1. d_trader
          d_trader 19 July 2013 19: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: Yarosvet
          Fedorov himself repeatedly visited the echo of matzah

          It happened. He only said there that the presenters did not want to hear at all. They invite every time to mock, but it turns out the opposite, Fedorov makes them like puppies and you would not know this if you listen to your favorite radio
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 19 July 2013 19: 53 New
            -1
            Quote: d_trader
            Fedorov makes them like puppies, and you would not know if you listen to your favorite radio
            Wherever Zhenya comes, he is everywhere instead of a clown.

            Infa checked, or afraid to make a mistake in the idol?

            Here's another vidyuha - I recommend.

            1. nbw
              nbw 19 July 2013 22: 00 New
              0
              Gee-gee, fans of Navalny on "Military Review". At least, decent people would be ashamed, for the most part ...
              1. fartfraer
                fartfraer 19 July 2013 22: 12 New
                0
                "Military Review" is not a zombie site, there may be fans of anyone. Or am I wrong? As for bulk, doesn’t it seem strange to you when a shareholder says that a certain company, of which he is the holder of shares, has robbed the country of 4 billion. R.? it is necessary either to attract a shareholder for defamation, or to imprison the “helmsmen” of this thieves organization for a long time. But do you agree? So why didn’t this happen?
              2. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 19 July 2013 22: 43 New
                -1
                Quote: nbw
                Gee-gee, fans of Navalny on "Military Review".
                Above, I wrote about how a normal person differs from oligophrenic.

                There is one more difference - a normal person, unlike oligophrenic, gets acquainted with this “anything” before declaring his opinion about something.

                Quote: nbw
                At least, decent people would be ashamed, for the most part ...
                Correctly! Therefore, it’s you who gave the pearl about Navalny. laughing
          2. kotvov
            kotvov 19 July 2013 20: 59 New
            -3
            if it's all divorces, then you are the pope.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 19 July 2013 21: 02 New
              0
              Quote: kotvov
              if it's all divorces, then you are the pope.

              I didn’t catch it.
  41. Stalin
    Stalin 19 July 2013 16: 41 New
    +4
    Volodin seems to be writing patriotic articles, but today he laid out some nonsense. Such days as the day of Russia are the basis of ideology, which must be carried forward to a significant date in the history of the country. This is the day when all the people unite, as on May 9, in the name of some ideas, the braces of Russian identity. And without Volodin it’s clear that there are a lot of problems in Russia, they need to be solved, but IDEOLOGY needs to be built like this gradually from the foundations, instilling in the people the importance of Russia, and not liberal shouts that Russia is from 20 years old. In addition, Mr. Volodin should have taken the time to inquire about the activities of Fedorov, who is conducting a direct struggle for the sovereignty of Russia, and is promoting manual laws in the Duma. Mr. Volodin simply does not know who Fedorov is and did not even bother to inquire, so the article turned out to be at least a count with a minus, and at most simply amateurish. I did not expect this from this author.
    1. Grishka100watt
      Grishka100watt 21 July 2013 14: 31 New
      -1
      Mr. Volodin simply does not know who Fedorov is and did not even bother to inquire
      I think Mr. Volodin He knows and was interested, and, of course, consciously wrote all this.
      But..
  42. Avenger711
    Avenger711 19 July 2013 17: 11 New
    +1
    The most important question actually. Once on June 12 we have nothing to celebrate and this is recognized by the state. level, then the trial of the Tomb with EBNom can reach.
  43. d_trader
    d_trader 19 July 2013 17: 37 New
    +1
    I have been waiting for a good article on Fedorov and his work for a long time on the site "Military Review". The people should know their heroes and patriots, and Evgeny Alekseevich is undoubtedly a patriot of Russia.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 19 July 2013 18: 56 New
      -1
      Quote: d_trader
      I have been waiting for a good article on Fedorov and his work for a long time on the site "Military Review". The people should know their heroes and patriots, and Evgeny Alekseevich is undoubtedly a patriot of Russia.


      "Fedorovsky syndrome"
      "Evgeny Fedorov and the magical truth-teller. Analysis of the deputy."


      Read and enjoy laughing
      1. d_trader
        d_trader 19 July 2013 19: 19 New
        -2
        Quote: Yarosvet
        "Fedorovsky syndrome" "Evgeny Fedorov and the magical truth-teller. Analysis of the deputy."

        info from the sites ala - echo of Moscow only in text form.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 19 July 2013 19: 55 New
          0
          Quote: d_trader
          info from the sites ala - echo of Moscow only in text form.
          Unhealthy.
          1. d_trader
            d_trader 19 July 2013 20: 37 New
            0
            Time will judge
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 19 July 2013 20: 48 New
              -1
              Quote: d_trader
              Time will judge
              Time will not judge, but will kill.

              Check the information and do not make unfounded statements.
  44. Bosk
    Bosk 19 July 2013 19: 04 New
    0
    They would be put on a salary of an average pensioner ... maybe they invented something clever from hunger.
  45. wax
    wax 19 July 2013 20: 08 New
    +1
    Russia on geographical maps appeared in the 17th century. It is in this century that we must look for a suitable date. This date (the day of Russia) may well be November 4. The decision of the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR is simply the date of nonsense.
  46. wax
    wax 19 July 2013 20: 45 New
    +3
    June 12 is rather the day of castration in Russia, a holiday of destroyers and mankurts. The second time in more than a year, put Volodin minus.
  47. Edward
    Edward 19 July 2013 20: 49 New
    +1
    May 9 is the Victory Day in the Great Patriotic War of ALL PEOPLES of the entire Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
    It is impossible to reduce this UNIVERSAL HOLIDAY to the level of "one of all."

    Do not tront, dear deputies, at least this UNIVERSAL HOLIDAY is MAY 9.

    After all, those who offer to unite the "freedom of Russia" from May 9 - these "jumping ruminants with horns" know what they are doing: they dream of nothing to mix with what was ...
  48. kotvov
    kotvov 19 July 2013 20: 50 New
    -4
    Yes. I’m happy, as always. I have to agree to transfer, but there really are no more important matters. As for Fedorov, I have a negative opinion, to put it mildly. I understand that some may not be interested in my opinion, but I think that it’s lawmakers, are responsible for what happened and is happening with my country.
  49. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 19 July 2013 21: 05 New
    +6
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  50. APASUS
    APASUS 19 July 2013 21: 41 New
    -2
    All these initiatives are reminiscent of the transfer of water in a sieve!
    When to relax in the winter or how many days to transfer to May, now is the day of Russia.
    Pension reform - once every three years! Scandals over the defense order, industrial policy in general, nowhere! Do nothing ????????????
    Shame on your parliament ....