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Tyrant and his team

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Tyrant and his team“Cadres decide everything!” - this famous Stalinist message, in my opinion, perfectly reflects the main principle of our despotic state from Grozny to Putin. For with its chain device, only a special skeleton, exposed by the highest will, can drag the country forward, like a tractor on a tight off-road. And sometimes with his caterpillars he breaks ruts even more.


Under Grozny, the state was still understood here as the personal property of the tsar, whom he is entitled to dispose of as he pleases. To this, Grozny himself pressed on the controversy with our first political émigré Kurbsky, so responding to the reproach of arbitrary arbitrariness: “I am the king, is free to execute someone, pardon someone!” basis, and “through the people”, serving as a tenacious head of personnel department throughout the country. Historians even share his rule on the basis of the following cadre: a good period close to the Tsar Protopop, Sylvester and the Governor Adashev; terrible - oprichnika Malyuta Skuratov ...

Oprichnina, which gave a whole corps of storm troopers loyal to the tsar - the apotheosis of the cadre idea. These cadres nurtured "under him" truly decided everything in the country, in relation to which Grozny still didn’t seem to have any integral plan. He introduced some kind of good reforms, crushed sedition - but he himself sowed it with wild rampant executions and his shameful consolations. However, for any business, the necessary personalities were very prudently, sometimes polar warehouses: Skuratov, Godunov, the Stroganov merchants, Yermak ...

As a result of the strong, but rather impulsive personnel policy of Grozny, the country, on the one hand, has doubled. But on the other - the boyars, being jealous of his personnel purges, then they handed it over to the Poles, no matter how Godunov tried to atone for the ruined ruin by the forerunner. But here came the footage of the "second row" led by Pozharsky, and by the end of all of Russia Siberia, the Kazan and Astrakhan Khanate conquered the unbridled tyrant.

Another great personnel officer, Peter, was already not only the owner, but also the zealous servant of his native land. His character is depicted by such an edit made in the vocabulary of foreign words. The compiler wrote: "The General is the highest, the most important." Peter crossed it out, inscribed: "The most important, with all respect having." The workaholic himself, he managed to forge his personnel reserve so much that he served the assigned tasks selflessly - as a result, the country gave an unprecedented breakthrough. Whether there, at that price, is another question; but all the ideas were fulfilled, as they say today, absolutely - the best example of which is история with bookmark Ekaterinburg.

The fast social elevator of Peter raised Nikita Demidov, who fulfilled and exceeded all obligations under armory parts from simple artisans to the first breeders of Russia. But becoming almost the Ural prince at his factories, Demidov fell into a dizziness typical of such upstarts from success, having ceased to see the interests of the whole country behind his profits. And when another great shot of Peter, Vasily Tatishchev arrived in the Urals for the development of mining, met him, as a competitor, with hostility.

Tatishchev, our first historian, economist, geographer and enlightener, after studying for a royal voucher abroad, returned home not as a pro-Western monkey, but as an active patriot of the Motherland. And when he was sent “to build factories in the Siberian province and to smelt silver and copper from ores”, he went against the Senate, who wanted more silver and copper for minting money. He understood that the money itself - ugh: the more they are, the less they cost, but other profits must be multiplied: the iron needed for the war and peaceful development is iron.

And he decided to build on the Iset River a new factory “fortress”, surpassing not only Demidov’s iron output, but also all world production of that time. He compiled a grand project of construction with a list of all aspects - from the extraction of raw materials to the use of captured Swedes at work - and sent him to St. Petersburg. Then Demidov wrote a terrible denunciation to him, Tatishchev answered no less toothy.

To judge two of his nominees, Peter sent the third - Wilhelm de Genin, already from his “foreign legion”, who served the king again, not for fear, but for conscience. The Dutchman Genin distinguished himself in the war with the Swedes, built a cannon yard and a powder factory in St. Petersburg, a water intake in Moscow, founded the first Mining School in Russia, opened ore deposits ... The Tsar for merits produced him as a general and bestowed a diamond framed portrait. In a complicated Ural intrigue, the influential graph Apraksin asked for Genin for Demidov, but the valiant legionnaire replied with a bold honor: “I’m happy to fix Demidov, but it's only in the interest of His Imperial Majesty”.

Having studied the clash between Demidov and Tatishchev, Genin not only took the side of the latter, but also sparked his plans. And they let the couple do something for which, in the event of a blunder, it would have been impossible for the two to demolish their heads: without the consent of the Senate, they would start a new fortress on Iset. Here, another persona grata is intertwined with all the intrigue - Peter's wife Catherine, with whom Tatishchev gradually wrote off Genin. This non-Russian woman, who got out of the dirt in the tender darling of Peter, who had direct access to his body, turned out to be his loyal assistant in personnel.

For a pile of his affairs, Peter could not penetrate into all peripetias, was forced to listen to advisers, and she believed at all as if he were himself. And she, using the marital bed as a kind of table of reports, asked him and her dear spouse for those two, after which the Berg-Collegium approved their plan for laying the future capital of the Urals. They called her politically in honor of the tsarina, and she replied to Genin: “What did you write about the fact that the factory was built as Katerinburgh, which is similar to His Majesty? And We thank you for correcting the work put on you and for the name in the name of our newly built plant. ”

Here are some shots Peter forged: not just exemplary performers, but obsessively torn, with the risk of heads, in overtaking assigned tasks - and this was above all great. Since one king in a despotic country, even three times gold himself is nothing; and only the ability to build such a personnel belt of loyalty leads to its success.

But immediately after the death of Peter began the fierce beating of his valiant frames. The trashy heirs of the great tsar chose the path of barren, temporary, as barren, temporary bishops capable only of hypocritical praise to the sovereign. Well, as about modern temporary workers, not building anything, just stealing, lick ass Putin.

This period, called Bironovshchina named after the bloodsucker favorite of stupid Queen Anna Ioannovna Biron, ended with the coming to power of Catherine II. That, although German, but in a sense, the Russian soul, took as a model Peter, her idol - but she was only partially able to repeat his actions. Such state-charged men as Derzhavin, still charged by Petrov, Lomonosov, with her woman’s slack, were under the heel of her alcove husbands, who had a natural jealousy for non-alcove ones. And from this Indian kingdom, perhaps, the tradition of some contempt for all men “outside the family” has gone down. The best core of the country - Suvorov, Kutuzov, Pushkin, Herzen and so on - was already in one way or another disgraced. Moving away from the rod of activity of the most ardent heads served, in my opinion, and the uprising of those who loved their Motherland more than the life of the Decembrists. Under Peter, such a riot of unclaimed personnel, it seems to me, would have been unthinkable: he would have found what a worthy investment in this pile of idle captive patriots would be.

And throughout the 19-th century, this disgraced tendency only worsened, bringing the end of Russian autocracy closer. It seems to us to be something normal and natural that the best minds of Russia then fought not for something positive - but against the current government. But there is something anomalous in the fact that the conscience of the nation called not to build, but to break! Gogol brilliantly mocks the Motherland in the "Inspector" and in the first volume of "Dead Souls" - but only takes up the second in a positive, loses all his gift and burns himself this unsuccessful attempt ...

There is a misconception that it is easy to govern a country: the ruler de himself does not need to know much, it is worthwhile to recruit sensible advisers - and they will figure it all out. But to understand those who understand - and there is the most difficult, masterly work. And our last Tsar Nicholas II, smooth from the face, but a complete layman in everything, blew all his cadres — and with them the country. First, the Minister of Finance Witte served him as a magic wand. There is a gap somewhere, failure - the cards will immediately be in his hands, and he will lead the Transsiberian railway, then he will sign the post-war world with Japan, “as if not she won, but Russia!” But only save the situation - just another disfavor and resignation : A talentless king could not tolerate such a talented businessman next to him. And in 1906, he finally changes him to the premier of Stolypin, a man of rigid will, but who did not create a share of Witte.

But the “Stolypin ties”, with time, are less and less pleasing to the thin caper. And killing a favorite in 1911, whose last words were: “Happy to die for the king!” - causes more relief in Nicholas than sorrow. Then, at the suggestion of the queen adored by him, he brings the dissolute Rasputin to himself - for the elemental gift of taming the sufferings of the disease prince Alexei - and makes him his personnel officer. Along the way, he is still trying to find support a lower level: he establishes the Duma, he disperses it, he shuffles generals and ministers - but everything is in vain. As a result, the shots squandered among them, among which there were plenty of bright personalities like Kolchak, Brusilov, Putilov, kill this disgrace of the country of Rasputin, then incline the tsar himself to abdication. His last favorite was the minister of the court, Count Frederiks, the guardian of court etiquette. There is a bloody war, the country is already rushing into the abyss, and the most relevant frame for the supreme commander is the minister of the yard!

Today it is customary to blame the Bolsheviks for the death of Tsarist Russia, but this is utter nonsense. They are neither guilty nor guilty of the fact that the tsar of the white-haired and soft-nosed man ditched everything, that at least the ancestors of 300 built up his years after the expulsion of the Poles. And to sculpt a saint out of him, as is being done now, not to respect his own history and to despise the labors of those who actually shed sweat and blood in their own fields.

Of course, Stalin became our greatest cadre builder, under whom our industrial growth reached unprecedented 22 percent per year. He advanced, though sometimes thorny in the ways, of true creators, on whom he had some kind of brutal scent. Tupolev, Korolev, Shostakovich, Kurchatov, Lavochkin, Ilyushin, Sholokhov, Kapitsa, Landau and thousands more brilliant names are his, personally selected frames. And he executed, without regret, Balamutov talkers like Rykov, Zinoviev, Bukharin; from the present litter, it would certainly be happy to get such people as Nemtsov, Chubais, Gref, Yasin and other liberal scum.

This is typical of the case of Tukhachevsky, who is now being elevated as some kind of especially enlightened military specialist who was executed for his suspicion of treason. He, who flaunted his scholarship, was commissioned in 1931 to create a domestic tank. But when he rolled out his three-tower to the parade in the 37th Tanks, promising soon five-tower, in which a gun from one tower no-no beat the other, Stalin grabbed his head in horror. And it seems to me that the fate of this dandy was decided not even by suspicion of participating in the Trotskyite conspiracy, but by this clear betrayal: to ditch a bunch of money on the devil that, thank God, replaced by the Koshkin T-34 before the war.

Both Landau, and Tupolev, and Korolev sinned with sedition - but they knew their business was tight, why they were not only forgiven, but also ascended, after their very creative imprisonment, to the very top of honor. That is why now the whole army of our idlers and go-goers hates Stalin so fiercely, the people of labor pay him great tribute.

Khrushchev in his selection of personnel shifted the emphasis from devotion to business to devotion to the "party and personally", opening the way for a strange paradox. The more the country was liberated externally, the more it was enslaved internally - and over a decade of Khrushchev’s power, much milder than Stalin’s, nothing close to the amazing galaxy of former geniuses was born in the country. But until the end of Soviet power, we still retained such a cadre that created all our weapons, all MIGs, SUs, Grads, and tanks that serve to this day.

This cadre defeat was inflicted on the country under the guise of perestroika by Gorbachev with his pathological frailty. Terribly afraid of any competition when he was not washed out and in the general secretaries of the local self-consciousness, he did not forge, like Stalin, but extinguished decent frames. The new secretary of the Kaluga regional committee of the Ulanov, appointed by him, in my eyes, first of all, removed the director of the best state farm of the region for exceeding by half the average yield. There is nothing to earn cheap popularity for yourself - well, and all that is verbiage.

From the same panic fear of the best cadres, Gorbachev shoved the editor of the then best newspaper, Komsomolskaya Pravda, Seleznev, into the editors of the Teacher's newspaper. And its former editor, Matveev, a crystal fanatic who raised the industry press to the level of a publication read by the entire intelligentsia of the country, was reduced to Seleznev’s secrets. Why Matveev, who did not endure such a slap in the face from a perestroika, whom he believed from the heart, died a month later.

Under Gorbachev, some exaggerated heavyweights such as Yakovlev, Ligachev, Primakov, who could only shake their palms with their palm, were nothing more than that. Why all of his restructuring, which gave rise to sheer hypocrisy, when only humans could crawl into the gap of freedom open to them, but people couldn’t, and ended pitifully.

Yeltsin, who replaced him, put our personnel department in the hands of the States; and, as has already been officially recognized, with him, full-time CIA staff worked as advisers to our departments.

Everything is more complicated with Putin, who nevertheless drove out these spies - but at the same time everyone who could bring at least something to the end. It seems to be not a timid leader, not like Gorbachev, but the feeling that this same fear of fear has lodged in him. Stalin, not being afraid of moral competition, gave out a carte blanche to Tupolev, Lavochkin, Kurchatov - to those who exactly would bring their case to the bitter end. Kurchatov, the most rabid daredevil, drawn by Stalin from a circle of colleagues, in four years instead of the predicted twenty, created our atomic bomb. And Putin, in order to build on the long-known patterns of our new aircraft, the Superjet fished in no way equal to Pogosyan’s task, which is all.

Under Stalin, for the crazy costs incurred at the same time they would be used against the wall, but Putin seemed to be rubbing his hands in secret: aha, it wasn’t possible - and good! Since all that succeeds, he should succeed only. Such a hypertrophied, perhaps, a superiority complex - perhaps caused by some previous personal repression. From Yeltsin, who incited him to slander Prosecutor General Skuratov, on which he rose to the heirs to the throne; from maybe even an early service in overwhelmingly personal impulses of the KGB.

Putin, who has become to some extent our only existing cadre, is himself in the near future most effectively fighting all the ills of the country. But in the distant, strategic, it only multiplies these evils, like corruption, the dominance of migrants, the extermination of domestic production. Since it is still one, without the specified chastity belt, there is no warrior in the field. And this belt of fidelity — United Russia, mired in the now obvious theft and cheating, became the same CPSU mired in hypocrisy at the end of the USSR.

But I don’t think that even now, after all the cutting down of decent cadres, like cedar in the taiga, we don’t have them at all. That only parasites of the type of Abramovich, Vekselberg, Usmanov are capable of pawing our bowels and steel giants built in the USSR - the native country is still very broad. It’s just that in the most secret background, fed by our despotic device, everyone is accustomed to believing in the king-father, the good despot, who will distribute to everyone in earrings. But today, only parasites receive these earrings in the ears, and our Tatishchevs, Queens, Tupolevs did not need the current sovereign.

For the time being there is no one to change it, which he uses from the heart. But how to convince our not yet extinct personnel that they decide everything? And as once a decent ruler forged them, today they should, well, even try to forge him!
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  1. soldat1945
    soldat1945 18 July 2013 07: 05 New
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    Unfortunately, the current personnel team raises a lot of questions, which colorfully characterizes the main personnel officer!
    1. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 18 July 2013 09: 06 New
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      Quote: soldat1945
      Unfortunately, the current personnel team raises a lot of questions.

      Yeah! With a team like DAM (which costs only one Dvorkovich and Abyshev), it's not like intelligence ... you won’t go to a pub !!!
      And the GDP was going to build with them a "bright capitalist future" ...
      And to the author - dear ... who did you have in mind when you entitled your article about the tyrant and his team? If Stalin, then why "rinse" the EBN team, If the EBN ... then write so ...
      1. sevtrash
        sevtrash 18 July 2013 10: 13 New
        +5
        Not a bad article, cadres decide everything. Putin is arguably the best leader since Stalin. But the degree of embezzlement, kickbacks and redistributions under state orders - either he considers a kind of payment for loyalty and work, or does not know the full picture? Failures from Skolkovo, Rusnano - or is it considered a success? Of course, bribery existed and exists in all countries, but nevertheless, it seems that all members of the government make money from the budget. Although maybe Shoigu has a conscience and, by the way, the presence of staffing hunger shows his purpose - no one was found trustworthy? Can Shoigu continue to be appointed to all positions in the government in a circle?
        And Medvedev definitely needs to be changed - the impression is that he was engaged in gadgets during his presidency, and this is the president of a country in which there are enough problems.
        1. Ross
          Ross 18 July 2013 10: 47 New
          +9
          A strange look at the story of the feeding of Rothschild-Herzen, who was in London with his "friend", or rather the owner, and who published his libel for his money, to put on a par with Suvorov and Kutuzov and Pushkin ????
          There are enough such mistakes in the article.
          1. Skiff-2
            Skiff-2 18 July 2013 13: 07 New
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            Quote: Ross
            A strange look at the story of the feeding of Rothschild-Herzen, who was in London with his "friend", or rather the owner, and who published his libel for his money, to put on a par with Suvorov and Kutuzov and Pushkin ????
            There are enough such mistakes in the article.

            Yeah, horses and people mixed up in a heap, and what are the praises of Count Witte, the one who pulled us into an adventure with Port Arthur and, as a result, into the Russo-Japanese War, the one who did everything so that we lost this war and consolidated our loss peacefully agreement, to the one who dragged Russia into debtors to the Rothschilds, and these debts then dragged us into the 1-th World War ... Author or amateur or provocateur. Personally, I stick to the second version.
          2. rexby63
            rexby63 18 July 2013 17: 43 New
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            Not otherwise Mr. Roslyakov invented a time machine
        2. skeptic
          skeptic 18 July 2013 11: 36 New
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          Quote: sevtrash
          Not a bad article, cadres decide everything. Putin is arguably the best leader since Stalin. But the degree of embezzlement, kickbacks and redistributions under state orders - either he considers a kind of payment for loyalty and work, or does not know the full picture?


          Do you see what the matter is - capitalism is being built in our country, but where do homegrown capitalists come from? Naturally, through embezzlement, kickbacks and redistribution under state orders, modern capitalist cadres are being trained. Indeed, in the West there is an opinion that behind the emergence of every major capital, a train of crimes stretches.

          So, breathe evenly - we follow in the wake of the historical development of capitalism. Fuck it ... request
        3. yak69
          yak69 18 July 2013 20: 22 New
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          Quote: sevtrash
          Putin is arguably the best leader since Stalin. But the degree of embezzlement, kickbacks and redistributions under state orders - ... Failures from Skolkovo, Rusnano - this is considered a success ..

          Here is the passage! The best leader, after Stalin, and complete thieves and outright state pests such as Chubais, Kudrin, DAM, etc. It somehow does not fit with common sense. I always thought that the best leader is the one who put his whole life on the altar of serving the country, the people. And the same attracts to himself to help in leadership. And here, if you look at who Putin is attracted to, you somehow cannot believe that he really thinks about the revival of Russia and the public good.
          Well open your eyes! Look who Putin appoints to the most important posts in the state! Well, think at least a bit - except Kudrin, DAM, Shuvalov, Dvorkovich, the hunger, Skvortsova, Chubais, etc. etc., do they care about our good with you ?!
          And to talk that Putin is not free in his choice of personnel is just stupid and a complete lack of understanding of reality! Painful self-deception.
      2. DEfindER
        DEfindER 18 July 2013 11: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: KazaK Bo
        Yeah! With a team like DAM (which costs only one Dvorkovich and Abyshev), it's not like intelligence ... you won’t go to a pub !!! And the GDP is going to build with them a "bright capitalist future" ...

        GDP is not so free to choose personnel, it is not so easy to get rid of the EBN inheritance, which proves the presence in the leadership of such types as Chubais and Co. .. but it seems that we are gradually getting rid of such borrowing .. just if the GDP starts acting like Stalin, right there sanctions will be trampled upon (although they already exist, all sorts of Magnitsky acts), they will transfer militants from Syria to the Caucasus, etc.
        And according to the article I would like to clarify that Peter was popularly called the Antichrist, because ordinary people brought a lot of troubles, just what serfdom stands for, when Europe freed itself from slavery and we introduced it, got involved in wars with the Swedes and Turks, which we absolutely did not need, they terrorized Europe and didn’t touch us, but Peter harnessed for Europe at the cost of the lives of our soldiers, and huge military expenditures, although on the contrary it could enrich the country while others bite, as amers did in World War II.
        and at the expense of Ivan the Terrible I will say that he was terrible only for strangers, and for his people he was a very revered and beloved Tsar, by the way he was a very pious man, the oprichnina was a very controversial Voros, most likely during the time of unrest, it was organized by his opponents . And it’s well known that at the end of his life the Tsar was very ill and became holy fool, and often went out to the people in rags, people recognized him and respected him very much, they called him not Ivan, but simply Tsar (Vasilevs in Byzantine), and the church was built after his death by St. Basil, I think a tyrant and despot would not have erected such a temple.
        1. mamba
          mamba 18 July 2013 17: 08 New
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          Quote: DEfindER
          and the temple after death was built by St. Basil the Blessed, I think a tyrant and despot would not have erected such a temple.

          The Cathedral of the Protection of the Holy Virgin, which is on the Moat, also called the St. Basil's Cathedral, was built in 1555-1561 by order of Ivan the Terrible in memory of the capture of Kazan and the victory over the Kazan Khanate, which happened on the day of the Protection of the Holy Virgin - in early October 1552. . And the king died in the afternoon of March 18, 1584.
          1. DEfindER
            DEfindER 18 July 2013 18: 06 New
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            Quote: mamba
            St. Basil's Cathedral was built in 1555-1561 by order of Ivan the Terrible in memory of the capture of Kazan and the victory over the Kazan Khanate

            There is a version that Ivan the Terrible died earlier due to illness, just somewhere around 1557 and the Temple was erected in his honor ..
            1. mamba
              mamba 18 July 2013 20: 57 New
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              Quote: DEfindER
              There is a version that Ivan the Terrible died earlier due to illness, just somewhere around 1557 and the Temple was erected in his honor ..

              And who reigned instead of him for 27 whole years? Those who introduced the oprichnina, went to Novgorod and “wanted the Novgorod betrayal”, canceled the oprichnina, sent Russian troops to war with the Crimean Khanate, the Livonian Order, Poland and Lithuania, married to Elizabeth of England, crowned the kingdom of the baptized Tatar and Simon Khanim Kassimov, married seven times and gave birth to two more children? His son and heir Ivan Ivanovich from his second marriage died in 1583 and was not crowned king, because the pope still reigned.
              1. DEfindER
                DEfindER 19 July 2013 10: 07 New
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                Quote: mamba
                And who reigned instead of him for 27 whole years?

                According to the official version of the story, strange inconsistencies are obtained, for example, Ivan the Terrible is considered to have abdicated 3 times and returned 3 times, and married the throne several times, which looks very strange and historians cannot explain this, according to another version, the rule still 3 people after Ivan the Terrible.
                Here is an interesting dock movie on this topic:
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hpstjJshhg
        2. Pinochet000
          Pinochet000 18 July 2013 20: 03 New
          +1
          Quote: DEfindER
          I think a tyrant and a despot

          A tyrant and a despot abrogated serfdom before death (St. George’s Day), although before the arrival of the Romanovs it was difficult to call it serfdom either .....
          1. Captain45
            Captain45 19 July 2013 14: 35 New
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            Quote: Pinochet000
            The tyrant and despot abolished serfdom before death (St. George's Day),

            Just on 31 of October, on Yuryev’s day, the peasants had the right to move from one landowner to another, and Grozny forbade the transition, hence the saying “Here you are, grandmother, and Yuryev’s day.” You’re at least a little interested in history if you write on such topics.
      3. de_monSher
        de_monSher 18 July 2013 14: 51 New
        +1
        And to the author - dear ... who did you have in mind when you entitled your article about the tyrant and his team?


        Nevertheless, it’s absolutely transparent - any modern ruler, tyrant, by definition, in spite of any notions of liberal dudes and feelings about “democracy” ... *) This person should have such a mentality that allows people to regard it as a functional - and is there something human in this, eh? *)

        So, given what I said above, it’s just possible to speculate about what any of our modern “dictators” is, the head of the country — good, bad, and-d-and-o-t, external manager, internal reorganizer, etc. . ... *)
    2. experienced
      experienced 18 July 2013 10: 07 New
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      In the 90s, with the help of American "friends", a gang of Mishka Kvakin gathered (using the analogies of the author), who rob "gardens" (industry privatization) and regularly dig "apples" (cut the budget) and periodically "democratically" choose their leader , which they themselves manage, and he can only chide them a little if they burrow too much, but he cannot, but most people will not allow punishing or expelling him from the "gang". So it turned out that there is a gang of Kvakin, but Timur and his team are not. True, through the media, they actively suggest to us that it is Timur who is fighting with the gang, but unfortunately we are not in the 37th year, and therefore the results of the struggle are the same.
  2. ole
    ole 18 July 2013 07: 25 New
    +5
    There are personnel, but with the current trend, getting into power they become like everyone steals.
  3. omsbon
    omsbon 18 July 2013 07: 28 New
    14
    Another personnel example is terrifying - Taburetkin-Serdyukov!
  4. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 18 July 2013 07: 32 New
    +6
    “Cadres decide everything!” (C) et correctly said.
    That's just a minus - frames tend to grow old, and as is perfectly shown in the article, after a furrow is laid and millet is sown with a lot of rotten grass and weedy grain grows. But what is the alternative to such leaps? only stagnation and degradation.
    So it’s worth complementing the phrase “Cadres decide everything!” - "And the personnel who have prepared their shift decide absolutely everything" or something like that.
    1. Nick
      Nick 18 July 2013 08: 18 New
      +7
      Quote: ShadowCat
      So it’s worth complementing the phrase “Cadres decide everything!” - "And the personnel who have prepared their shift decide absolutely everything" or something like that.

      Absolutely right! But, unfortunately, even the respected I.V. Stalin did not know how or did not manage to prepare for himself a worthy change ...
      1. OTTO
        OTTO 18 July 2013 08: 41 New
        +4
        Quote: Nick
        "And the staff who prepared their shift decide absolutely everything"

        That's right. If the selection of the "shift" is guided by business qualities, then ALL will be solved correctly. And if for personal interests? Unfortunately, this principle is now taking place. So there is very little hope of a right decision.
      2. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 18 July 2013 11: 02 New
        +3
        The man who completed three feats for the good of the country (He cleared the party of the Trotskyists and the other fifth column, raised the country and led it to Victory in World War II) survived mmm in two strokes and the last years of his life were almost paralyzed. Somewhere I read an article in the spirit that he was preparing receivers from the young, but some comrades helped blow up the “Doctors' Case” and the like, and cleaned the receivers.
        But as already said, "In general, history is a science of conjecture, logical incidents, and in general the darkest science built on speculation and speculation."
    2. Gari
      Gari 18 July 2013 10: 32 New
      +5
      Quote: ShadowCat
      That's just a minus - frames tend to grow old, and as is perfectly shown in the article, after a furrow is laid and millet is sown with a lot of rotten grass and weedy grain grows. But what is the alternative to such leaps? only stagnation and degradation.

      It’s true that they are getting old, but you can always find a worthy replacement from young and talented
      And where did Stalin take the shots?
      After two revolutions and a terrible civil war, famine, devastation, when there were so many street children, banditry
      Found the cadre of the country restored, or rather built a new
      The cadres who built this Great Country won the Great War, then rebuilt the destroyed country again in an incredibly short time, the cities of the village, industry were restored in the western part of the Country and created a new one in the east, raised all agriculture, created the atomic bomb, jet aircraft, laid the foundations of rocket science
      1. Gari
        Gari 18 July 2013 10: 36 New
        +7
        During the Stalinist leadership, over the course of 30 years, an agrarian, impoverished country dependent on foreign capital has become the most powerful military-industrial power on a global scale, the center of a new socialist civilization.
        The impoverished and illiterate population of Tsarist Russia has become one of the most intelligent and educated nations in the world. The political and economic literacy of the workers and peasants by the beginning of the 50s was not only not inferior, but also surpassed the level of education of the workers and peasants of any developed country at that time.
        In the first 19 years of the country's governance, Stalin increased its industrial production almost 70 times
        In 1945, bourgeois experts gave an official forecast that the economy of the USSR would be able to reach the level of 1940 only by 1965 - provided that it took foreign loans. We reached this level in 1949. Without any external help. Themselves.
        1. Gari
          Gari 18 July 2013 10: 37 New
          +2
          "You are not talking about the main thing. About your leading role in the world. In 1939, you Russians were smart, and we Japanese were fools. And in 1955 (after the death of Stalin! - Ed.) We wiser, and you Our entire economic system is almost completely copied from yours, with the only difference being that we have capitalism, private producers, and we have never achieved more than 5% growth, and you - with public ownership of the means of production - reached 15% or more. All of our firms have your slogans of the Stalin era. "

          Herosi Takawama, Japanese billionaire
          1. Gari
            Gari 18 July 2013 10: 43 New
            +7
            When I die, a lot of garbage will be put on my grave, but the wind of time will mercilessly sweep it away.

            I.Stalin
            1. Hleb
              Hleb 18 July 2013 14: 07 New
              +1
              When I die, a lot of garbage will be put on my grave, but the wind of time will mercilessly sweep it away.
              I.Stalin

              Gary, well, it’s a question of a man who will remain Great in history. It’s not a joke. Some people print the notorious text “Dulles’s plan”, others attribute Churchill the words “Stalin accepted the country with a plow, but left it with an atomic bomb.” you attribute the phrase. so prettier and more pathos than chtoli? so he does not need PR. such people need to be quoted verbatim. let the meaning of the words be similar, but still
              1. Gari
                Gari 18 July 2013 14: 26 New
                +4
                Quote: Gleb
                you attribute this phrase to Stalin. so more beautiful and pathos chtoli

                Whose phrase is this?
                And I read and read a lot about Stalin, even when there was no Internet, and his books, and written about him, even Churchill’s book, I was always interested in Stalin’s personality, even then in the 80-90s, when we were all hammered about his repressions , errors and shortcomings, that he was a tyrant, almost personally killing innocents.
                And he read something else about his great deeds, and the stories of his front-line grandfather and his grandmother, and their friends, how he was respected and loved.
                1. Hleb
                  Hleb 18 July 2013 17: 57 New
                  +1
                  Whose phrase is this?
                  why are you asking me this question ??? you wrote it. And it is you who must bring the source.
                  And I read and read about Stalin quite a lot, even when there was no Internet, and his books, and about him written
                  and yet his books (?), or about him? maybe they read some Rybakov? Stalin wasn’t so talkative at all, especially about himself. What kind of books are he writing about himself and you saw this quote? you understand that you have to give reasons? even people like Wasserman have problems finding them, but you found. but for some reason you don’t remember that these words are allegedly quoted from the memoirs of Alexandra Kollontai (from the 39th year), but even there there are no such words: "garbage", "ruthlessly sweeps". there you read:"And my name will also be defamed, slandered. I will attribute a lot of atrocities"but this is not the source
                  you also claim to have read Churchill, but even in England, in no archive or encyclopedia you will find these words about Stalin that Churchill spoke. but you will find the words of I. Deutscher and then the text will literally be different. (if you yourself can not find the sources, I will give)
                  80-90 years, when we all were hammered about his repression
                  here I can’t remember a single case, that they hammered it on me. neither at school, nor at a university, nor in the army ... I can’t remember a single case. Zhukov played perfectly, I don’t know who played Stalin, but I don’t remember hammering us in films about repression (our Soviet education was the best and truthful, right?). But today we are really hammered (including through movies, including). some began to water Zhukov, recalling the "stolen" cars with paintings and silver, others began to find "books" and open the "archives" with quotes from Stalin, after which they threw tons of it into the Internet, and there are enough seagulls ...
                  1. Gari
                    Gari 19 July 2013 11: 36 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Gleb
                    here I can’t remember a single case, that I was hammered.

                    And you did not read the newspapers of the late 80s, the same, Komsomolskaya Pravda, and other media?
  5. olviko
    olviko 18 July 2013 07: 57 New
    +6
    In addition to the truly ingenious "Cadres decide everything", there is another, no less ingenious "Demand creates supply." So when the Russian people, for the most part, emerge from their indifferent - contemplative state and truly, in practice, finally preoccupy themselves with the situation in which Russia finds itself, then there will be a demand for cadres who decide everything, decide in the interests of the people and the country.
  6. Avenger711
    Avenger711 18 July 2013 08: 00 New
    -5
    And Putin, for building on the long-known patterns of our new Superjet aircraft, fished out Poghosyan, who didn’t equal the task, which completely failed.


    Stop writing this heresy, the project was implemented at the expense of the UAC and for the same money as other cars of this class (about 500 million). And this project is successful. Maybe it won’t bring profit, for this you need at least 500 aircraft, and the market is crowded, but it allows you to take certain positions on the market.
    1. Forget
      Forget 18 July 2013 08: 16 New
      +5
      Quote: Avenger711
      the project is implemented at the expense of UAC

      KLA received all the money from the state .. and still receives
      1. not good
        not good 18 July 2013 10: 47 New
        +3
        Yes, and for the successful project that something did not line up!
  7. taseka
    taseka 18 July 2013 08: 06 New
    +5
    "steel giants built back in the USSR are capable of grabbing our bowels" - this is no longer scary, it is already alarming !!!
  8. knn54
    knn54 18 July 2013 08: 16 New
    13
    Our mentality is such that it always required a “firm hand”, only then was a result possible. And “democracy”, talking about high matters, thin layers of the subconscious - a direct signal to gouging, And, as a result, the country of the “Lokhankins” - ruined all production, and we are engaged in ranting about democracy, the crisis and the special role of Russia ... and we are waiting for “ suddenly a magician will fly in a blue helicopter. ” There will NEVER be a “middle ground”!
    The tyrant is ANY ruler, only an insignificant ruler (such as the MSG) - a petty tyranny, a political mongrel!
    -But immediately after the death of Peter began a fierce beating of his valiant shots.
    This concerned not only Peter. After the death of leaders, personalities came that destroyed everything that was achieved and at the same time successfully “poured slops” on the Creator.
    -Today, it is customary to blame the Bolsheviks for the death of tsarist Russia, but this is complete nonsense.
    The tsar was not supported by anyone, not even his inner circle. And frank swindlers “engaged” in liberation. The Bolsheviks simply saved Russia from collapse and enslavement.
    I would like to add that it is impossible to compare, for example, two tyrants: Hitler, with his bestial desire to DOMINATE and Stalin, with his desire for social justice for ALL PEOPLES, how it is impossible to compare Bartholomew’s night and the deportation of Crimean Tatars.
    PS The West will feel like a TOTAL winner when the Russian people arrange "dancing on the grave" of Stalin. "Indian hut" them.
  9. Imperial
    Imperial 18 July 2013 08: 20 New
    +9
    Oh how, a man who made an industrial country with a developed science and industry from a peasant country is a tyrant, and yesterday they wrote about another man who did not do a tenth of what the "tyrant" did and he is "saint", well, live in "holiness", and lately, I want more and more "tyranny".
  10. treskoed
    treskoed 18 July 2013 08: 21 New
    12
    Today's time is reminiscent of the army "painting the grass" or "Potemkin villages" when the wish is presented as valid! Why splurge? And to whom?
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 18 July 2013 16: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: treskoed
      Why splurge?
      Otherwise, they may be picked up.

      And to whom?
      Are there really few who are underway?
    2. bistrov.
      bistrov. 18 July 2013 23: 32 New
      -1
      Quote: treskoed
      Army "grass painting"

      Well, that's just about the "grass" is not necessary. Bad jokes please quote a colleague. Nobody has ever painted grass in the army, since this simply was not necessary, why should it be painted if it is already green? There was enough other dust. The same goes for the Potemkin villages. They have never been. All this is fiction idle envious Potemkin. Catherine-2, and so was struck by the volume of construction organized by him, the vastness and wealth of the conquered region. Unfortunately, it didn’t go wrong. To acquire and equip this then wild land was worth enormous labor and millions of Russian lives. And it was prosral only one person, with one stroke of the pen. I mean the "king" of Boris. True, the ground was prepared for this by another "reformer" - "tagged". As for Mr. Putin, you can also understand him, if you start to wave a saber a lot, then you will not lose your head for long. Times are, I would say, vague. So you have to act with caution. "Democracy", damn it! "Tsar" Stalin was not an example easier and how many riots and rebellions had to endure. At the slightest suspicion, a person was destroyed: “there is no person, there are no problems” - his aphorism. Again, the people were not so much corrupted. But Putin is still well done, out of half the resources (it is known that Russia received 50% of the potential of the USSR) he is trying to create something similar to a modern country. You look at it better.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 19 July 2013 05: 09 New
        0
        "no man, no problem" - his aphorism
        not him. This phrase is also from the field of "bad jokes."
        Rybakov "Children of the Arbat"
  11. My address
    My address 18 July 2013 08: 43 New
    +5
    Yes, frames from GDP. One dam what is worth. And finding the bread positions Chubais, Nurgaliyev? A clear signal that the main thing is personal loyalty. Yes, and Serdyukov, knowing that a great post would come and a big responsibility, or would not go to the ministers, or did not shit so clearly. Here is the foreign policy for the benefit of the country. And the internal benefit of the circle.
    1. My address
      My address 18 July 2013 08: 54 New
      +3
      I will add. Personnel policy in the country since the time of Gorbachev (so that faster I-z-doh), clearly based on personal loyalty, corrupts generation after generation. We will still spit for a long time, and the descendants will call it the Second Time of Troubles.
      1. Orik
        Orik 18 July 2013 10: 58 New
        +4
        Unfortunately stupid personal devotion is everywhere in society. It is also required in private business, even those who will stupidly listen to their superiors and execute their decisions are chosen even to the level of general directors and deputies. It’s necessary to quote “This“ honesty and devotion ”is too much sincerity, authenticity. The system does not require this, but the ability to be an obedient performer, deprived of their own will and independent position, no matter how this position coincides with the“ party line. "
        Creators are not needed, and so everywhere. The question is why? After all, they ensure the development of society.
  12. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 18 July 2013 08: 43 New
    11
    I have a slightly different plan for the question - "DOES THERE ARE NOW A UNITED HUMAN RESOURCES TEAM FOR OUR LEADERS?". AND THE ANSWER IS NEGATIVE! The composition of the working body is not staffing ... NOT PERSONNEL! They should be distinguished by professionalism, a conviction in the idea that you are serving (sovereignty of the spirit, in other words), a desire to serve your people, and not your beloved pocket ....
    Now answer - are there many of these in our government? Nooooooo! In any case, according to the line of choice of our prime minister ... I will not say anything about the security forces, there are almost all high-profile pros. Hence the sacramental Sakhalin question: "WILL YOU WORK OR NOT?" And such a team the faster they disperse, the more it will be useful and not to give them a deadline before the fall ... not even 24 hours ... but only 24 minutes and a broom ... a broom ... on D. VOSTOK ... there it is not enough workers ... especially in the Kolyma!
    And the remark to the author is E. PRIMAKOVA, .. please don’t touch, this is the FRAME-PROFI, who pulled RUSSIA after the "foolishness" of KINDERSURPRISE from default ... This person is not up to your "teeth"!
  13. valokordin
    valokordin 18 July 2013 08: 57 New
    +8
    Quote: treskoed
    Today's time is reminiscent of the army "painting the grass" or "Potemkin villages" when the wish is presented as valid! Why splurge? And to whom?

    Therefore, now the whole army of our loafers and wagons hates Stalin so fiercely, but the people of labor give him a great tribute of respect. An analysis of the activities of the president, certainly not a stupid person, allows us to conclude that he serves primarily himself.
  14. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 18 July 2013 09: 00 New
    15
    I’m not sure that Putin is that reformer in Russia. Agree, he had a lot of time to pick up reliable competent personnel. But so far we only see Chubais, Serdyukov, etc. Over all these years, the personnel policy has not changed a centimeter. I will believe Putin or anyone else when thieves and embezzlers go to jail for a long time, when they can’t hide in England, America, or anywhere else. I’ll believe such a person, the President. By the way, the article touched not only personnel issues of government. The article very clearly showed the nationalists who is actually more worried about Russia. All sorts of Demidovs or decent statesmen and not necessarily Russian by birth.
    1. Middle-brother
      Middle-brother 18 July 2013 10: 26 New
      +3
      Quote: vladsolo56
      I’m not sure that Putin is that reformer in Russia. Agree, he had a lot of time to pick up reliable competent personnel.

      The king is made by his environment ...
  15. t-95
    t-95 18 July 2013 09: 20 New
    +4
    Those who elevate Stalin as an ideal, professional specialist forget that his system destroyed him. Stalin is the greatest politician, but he is the son of his time. Tyrant? Yes, a tyrant, and you name me those who at that time were a democrat. But you need to understand that with Stalin’s methods, there’s nothing to do today, for everything to end with a color revolution, and you need to look for other approaches that’s definitely
  16. Nitup
    Nitup 18 July 2013 09: 25 New
    -7
    And it took Stalin 13-14 years before he began the purge of the fifth column, so Putin will take time.
    1. AZB15
      AZB15 18 July 2013 10: 51 New
      +7
      Oh, dear!
      A man came to power in 48 years, the most flourishing age. Now he has 60. Yes, sometimes it’s too lazy for me in my 44 to raise the stern from the chair, or let it dissolve itself or let the subordinates do it ... FUCK IT IT IS NECESSARY already. EVERYTHING that has been done in the country over these 12 years is all thanks to the immeasurable oil money and the remnants of the hurt of the USSR. What shots are you talking about? Yes, with the current vertical of power, no Serdyukov-Chubais-DAM-ERosiya can do anything without a team, you know how ... You look at the boltology and the scheme of movement and actions during these movements! Why, a man just plays, plays toys, Figaro here, Figaro there - amphorae, bathyscaphes, fighters, submarines, tigers, whales, etc. etc ... 12 YEARS - AND NOTHING.
      1. Nitup
        Nitup 18 July 2013 15: 02 New
        -1
        Talk oil money. Oh well. Something before Putin did not think of introducing MET and all the money from the sale of resources flowed simply past our budget to the West. It was worth introducing the mineral extraction tax, planting the most arrogant oligarch and the budget began to fill up. People began to pay salaries and pensions. That Yeltsin had no idea to introduce a tax on the extraction of resources. Canceled almost the collapse of the country. Putin has done a lot for the country. And, I am sure, no less will be done.
    2. valokordin
      valokordin 18 July 2013 16: 12 New
      -1
      Quote: Nitup
      Nitup (1) RU Today, 09:25 AM New

      And it took Stalin 13-14 years before he began the purge of the fifth column, so Putin will take time.

      Colon 5 will not go anywhere, since it arose from these bowels and is guided. The meaning of management is to provide the ability to steal, so that if you do not agree with the general line, it would be for what to plant. Nothing more than just business.
    3. ded10041948
      ded10041948 19 July 2013 05: 51 New
      0
      What will remain of Russia during this time?
  17. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 18 July 2013 09: 35 New
    +1
    If the word “team” means Dmitry Anatolyevich’s cabinet, then there’s no team, I think that Putin and Medvedev exist in different universes, one is in the clouds and builds castles in the air, but it’s scratching his tongue, while his ministers are slowly they’re pulling the country apart, another has promised the people a lot of things, too, does nothing, only acts smartly. I understand why people suffer this squalor, it's just that for 20 years of “reforms” everyone is so tired that everyone thinks that these two balabol are better in power, what will come next humanoid like Yeltsin or Gorbachev.
    1. t-95
      t-95 18 July 2013 09: 53 New
      0
      When people like you say that nothing has been done, I want to stand up. But I won’t, Answer, because before Putin, everything in our country was just perfect, right? Was there no war in Chechnya? Army rearmament every year but not once? there was no rampant gangster lawlessness ?, Car factories opened one after another? The Americans didn’t steer as we wanted? Pensions were paid on time, and how huge they were simply awful. And how many grateful mothers at that time were when they received huge maternal capital under Yeltsin, and the population in the country was growing at a tremendous rate, after all, Mr. detractor. And so the “damned Putin” came and fucked up all this raspberry.
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 18 July 2013 10: 15 New
        +9
        You are a strange person, you credit the authorities with the fact that pensions are paid on time. About the size of the pension it was not worth mentioning the wife's pension of 5 thousand, I have 8. Who will say that these are those pensions for which you can live without worries. Have you touched the army here, from more than 12 years of rule, when did you really start to raise the army? And in general, why compare Russia Yeltsin with today, why do not you compare with the best times in the USSR. When we released both airplanes and ships, when rockets did not fall through one. When on respected all over the world. As many people like to say that 12 years is a very short time to do something. Though not globally, but at least some weighty examples: how many power plants were commissioned during this period, how many factories were built, maybe we returned the aircraft manufacturing complex of the country? All that is positive today, all this rests on the foundation of socialism, which our fathers and we built. I have the right to say that we also built. Under Putin, that corruption has disappeared? now everyone will say no, only billions have become stolen.
        1. t-95
          t-95 18 July 2013 10: 27 New
          -1
          No, it’s you more than strange, I just reminded you of what crap they got out of. As for the best years under socialism, remind me of them. About your pension, honestly the parents themselves are retired, a little more than you and your wife, but they will also understand that this is several times better than it was. As for the aircraft-building complex, dear, the fact that the production of the same civilian aircraft is growing is not an indicator, and not like in the USSR, yet, but it is growing, and about the plants, they are built like that. And the last, in general, name the ideal time in the history of Russia.
        2. t-95
          t-95 18 July 2013 10: 30 New
          -3
          Yes, and about missiles, and under the Communists, they did not fall? at all?
          1. grafrozow
            grafrozow 18 July 2013 12: 24 New
            +2
            They crashed, and hijacked planes, and attempted to assassinate the general secretaries, but Soviet propaganda did not eat bread for nothing, knew how to work. Until now, the result is visible. I don’t need to fault America, frogs ... They have enough of their shit, but there is good, so let's use this good for our own purposes. A simple example is our North, sadly, mastering it BASICALLY with the help of imported equipment, hitachi, komatsu, kato, libher ... and why we ourselves can not produce analogues? Launch an old joke and a sad rocket into space? - Yes, at least ten, doesn’t it matter, but water on the fifth floor? - Well, you need to think about it. The question is for our government, are we going to walk in Chinese slippers? Where are ours?
          2. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 18 July 2013 17: 26 New
            +1
            Quote: t-95
            Yes, and about missiles, and under the Communists, they did not fall? at all?
            1. t-95
              t-95 19 July 2013 06: 39 New
              0
              such arguments on the internet as on that fence where you can write anything you want.
        3. grafrozow
          grafrozow 18 July 2013 11: 52 New
          -3
          Quote: vladsolo56
          You are a strange person, you credit the authorities with the fact that pensions are paid on time. About the size of the pension it was not worth mentioning the wife's pension of 5 thousand, I have 8. Who will say that these are those pensions for which you can live without worries

          In 1980 my grandmother, a collective farmer, for 40 years! received a pension of 28 rubles. and continued to work despite a bunch of illnesses and if it weren’t for her household, she would have starved to death with three children, the grandfather, a disabled war veteran, a pension of 58 rubles.
          Quote: vladsolo56
          Who will say that these are those pensions for which you can live without worries

          And then it was better, but Luzhkov’s pension was 240000 rubles. per month!!!
          Quote: vladsolo56
          : how many power plants were commissioned during this period, how many factories were built, maybe we returned the country's aircraft complex? All that is positive today, all this rests on the foundation of socialism, which our fathers and we built.

          And who built it? 501 construction of the railway Salekhard-Igarka passes through our city, all in camps, barracks, towers, a thorn still stand. In the spring of 2004, the village of Pravohettinsky began to ice, and human bones floated along the Right Hetta River, the river washed away the burial place of convicts, they were buried like garbage. OK? So that not everything was so smooth under socialism, take any construction of the "century" -BAM, Magnitogorsk, Dneproges, even in Moscow, convicts built houses. Do not forget about it. Tell me, this is the scum of society, zk, enemies of the people, but where did they come from? Yes, Stalin boosted the economy, as Churchill said, "he accepted it with a plow, but left it with an atomic bomb," but at what price, we don’t feel sorry for us, women still give birth, only women don’t want to give birth.
          1. vladsolo56
            vladsolo56 18 July 2013 12: 01 New
            +6
            And what have you all led to? In your opinion, the prisoners shouldn’t work? My parents worked at the plant until retirement, they worked honestly. I myself worked. According to your contribution from my parents, me and many of my relatives and friends, and indeed the entire Soviet people, does not mean anything? in your USSR only convicts built? Yes, and pensions and salaries were small, but we had guarantees and freedom. I in the USSR felt more protected and free than now. Today, only grapplers, speculators and grabbers rejoice. Their time has come. I don’t know for a long time or not.
            1. t-95
              t-95 18 July 2013 12: 21 New
              0
              do not bring nonsense of freedom you had more, I am also not a 20-year-old boy, and I remember how in N-Tagil on the glorious 80s at 6 a.m. they took the turn for milk, etc. Guys, yes, there were no ideal times in the history of the 20th century, always people were not happy, and they also grumbled. As for the standard of living, well, people didn’t live as wealthy as they are now or when. Yes, there are big problems with stratification, I agree, but when a neighbor who just bought a new hynday solaris and changed his apartment from 2 to 3, I sent my daughter to England for a month, he says, life is getting worse and worse, it seems to me that he just doesn’t have a dick, and not life worse
              1. vladsolo56
                vladsolo56 18 July 2013 12: 31 New
                +7
                I understand you, you are satisfied, and you think that everything, like you should be happy, you even annoy me that people want more justice. You gave an example of your neighbor, I will give an example of my son. He works as a programmer and earns not bad, but they bought odnushka in debts like in silk, on a mortgage, now they want to give birth to a second, so you need to expand, how, the loan is not repaid. Even if they can get it, they will get into even more credit for half their lives. This is your wonderful time. I don’t know who you are or who your neighbors are, only people like you are much smaller than people like us.
                1. t-95
                  t-95 18 July 2013 12: 56 New
                  -3
                  the original, you, and with the advice were all with the apartments? I’m not saying that manna is now heavenly, but it’s never been there, and I don’t think so, so don’t talk nonsense. Poor your son, look how fate did not work out in a mortgage.
                  1. vladsolo56
                    vladsolo56 18 July 2013 13: 06 New
                    +4
                    Everyone who wanted, my parents wanted a good apartment, got a job in a new building, got 3 rooms for six months. When I started my career there were also construction projects where you could get an apartment for a year. Of course, who wanted to live in the capital and a good apartment, he waited for decades, but it was their choice. You can leave your sarcasm to yourself, as I already wrote people like you not very much, and you better not defend your point of view on the street, people are angry and nervous now.
                    1. t-95
                      t-95 18 July 2013 13: 45 New
                      -3
                      dear you scare yourself, about evil people? And, what do you not remember, about those who lived in communal apartments, when I studied with us in the classroom, only 5 people lived in their apartments, I was among them. And what do you not remember about the officers who brought their young wives to the officers' dormitory while there are no others, or about the officers who served for years so didn’t serve anything, so leave stories about the great Soviet time to grandchildren, they didn’t live there
                2. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 18 July 2013 13: 09 New
                  +6
                  Quote: vladsolo56
                  people want more justice

                  Yes, there is no justice in the world ...
                  There is only our personal attitude to what is happening around, which is based, as a rule, on the memorable "... so that our desires coincide with our capabilities ...".
                  Most often do not match.
                  Maybe you should rejoice at every day, year?
                  And to value honestly and correctly earned “a piece of bread in your hand and a roof over your head”?
                  No matter how we “get angry” about the enemies of internal and external, “I am tormented by vague doubts” about our ability to influence what is happening in the country.
                  For example, I gritted my teeth a long time ago, and said to myself: "Plow, plow and plow while I have strength. When I don’t have strength, I won’t cry - I grit the rest of my teeth." laughing
                  1. vladsolo56
                    vladsolo56 18 July 2013 13: 41 New
                    +5
                    You know, I’m thinking that a person should live, not plow, plow, plow. Yes, we must work, but at the same time, society must be fairly organized. I do not agree that one for normal life should plow three times, the other just have connections, or steal with impunity.
                    1. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 18 July 2013 13: 52 New
                      +3
                      Quote: vladsolo56
                      I do not agree that one for normal life should plow three times, the other just have connections, or steal with impunity.

                      I'm just tired (or just stopped) hoping for the best.
                      More precisely, I hope for God, but I myself try not to blame. hi
            2. grafrozow
              grafrozow 18 July 2013 13: 56 New
              0
              Quote: vladsolo56
              In your opinion, the prisoners shouldn’t work?

              You do not understand. As we became prisoners, everyone knows, both right and left. But under what conditions they are "re-educated" does not add honor to us, and in the end we have what we have.
              Quote: vladsolo56
              Yes, and pensions and salaries were small, but we had guarantees and freedom. I in the USSR felt more protected and free than now. Today, only grapplers, speculators and grabbers rejoice. Their time has come. I don’t know for a long time or not.

              Why do I need freedom if I die dying tomorrow? Yes, there was “freedom” to rally for Angela Davis and Patrice Lumumba, remember those? And there was a grant to bend at the counter of communism, fulfilling the five-year plan for four years, for a red pennant. I do not consider myself grabbing 30 years in the North, a simple driver, but when I come on vacation to my mother in an old Mercedes, half of the neighbors envy black envy, they still think that money is lying under my feet. Of the 10 shift workers who arrived, after half a year there are one or two, the rest are obsir ... I, but those who stayed live normally. Do you know what a blizzard is in the tundra? Three days with a partner in the cockpit of URAL, visibility is half a meter, you will get away from the car, you won’t return, and at -56 start a car on the street? And when they say that you northerners are snickering, I step aside so as not to strangle the idiot, not all people earn money by reselling. The Northerners will understand me. Greetings to all of us from the Bashkir traffic police joke.
          2. valokordin
            valokordin 18 July 2013 16: 18 New
            +2
            Stop whining and wailing, in your opinion you should recruit all your opponents into allies and do nothing until Hitler gobbles up with the bones
      2. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil 18 July 2013 10: 40 New
        +8
        Please don’t hit! And I didn’t say that everything was perfect before, I personally think that everything that has happened in the USSR-Russia since 1985, one continuous flight into the abyss hitting the head on a path along the ledges in another place. And Putin Isn’t it from Yeltsin’s team? No? He himself did not sign guarantees of immunity? Was there a war in Chechnya, but who won? Who arranges dances in the squares of our cities and considers ordinary Russians to be slaughtered? Yes, the army now receives two in a year tank and one plane, coolly re-equipped. Amerikosy drove openly as they wanted, your truth, just now they don’t need it anymore, they got what they wanted, and why did you get what they don’t steer now? and happily die at the counter at the sight of prices. And the population is still not growing, it’s just a certain equilibrium, and nobody knows where it will go further. Let me remind you once that if you were absent for some reason in Russia, Putin didn’t “come” , Yeltsin appointed him, and by he appointed himself with a break for lunch. If you have a poster for Putin or United Russia, it’s your right to pray for them further, and if you just don’t understand what you’re judging, better keep silent and watch Putin’s speeches and speeches from 99 to 2013 yy and you’ll see that they are all one-to-one, except that Putin picked up the fat in the "difficult service", and Russia is marking time and because of people like you, by the way, too.
        1. Anti
          Anti 18 July 2013 11: 33 New
          -1
          Quote: Standard Oil
          Putin picked up fat in the "difficult service", and Russia is marking time and because of people like you, by the way, too.


          It’s a pity that I can’t put you another hundred minuses sad
          This is the link for you: http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/289249/
          1. Standard Oil
            Standard Oil 18 July 2013 11: 50 New
            +4
            And your goal here is to put the minuses? I'll give you advice, take a piece of paper and put the minuses, it suddenly feels better.
            1. Anti
              Anti 18 July 2013 12: 12 New
              -4
              Quote: Standard Oil
              And your goal here is to set cons?


              I have no goal in cons. But a lie in the form of sedition in your posts is already too much. I do not need your advice.
              1. Standard Oil
                Standard Oil 18 July 2013 12: 19 New
                +3
                Tell me at least in what "sedition"?
        2. t-95
          t-95 18 July 2013 12: 01 New
          -2
          yes beat you sorry. First, I pray in the temple, and not Putin, and secondly, people like you sincerely believe that you can come and change everything in six months. The only problem is that this is not so, even Stalin and his repressions needed 20 years to bring the country from the other world into the industrial ones. Times are not right now, it’s not possible to plant half of the country and make them work in a bowl of baland. And if you do not see changes in comparison with the 90s, then to your optometrist
          1. Standard Oil
            Standard Oil 18 July 2013 12: 17 New
            +3
            Excuse me, but do you beat anyone who disagrees with you? If you pray in the temple, you shouldn’t beat anyone at all, or you are a translator who takes one from Christianity and "forgets" about the other. That's how you live, a sandwich and " I don’t hear and don’t see anything, "" everything is fine, but soon it will be better. "And the fact that the country is not developing anywhere, stupidly pumping oil and stealing, and when it calls to the city of Tsar, Potemkin villages are built and give a list of questions that you need, in a clear sequence to ask, in no case no criticism !!! Just like you, listen, and you are by chance not from United Russia (Zhuliki and Thieves)?
            1. t-95
              t-95 18 July 2013 13: 27 New
              -1
              Dear, I'm just a man. Ordinary. and in the temple I’ll pray, I can fill my face, I’m ready to argue with those who disagree, just verbally. I can’t understand why people should be fooled about glorious Soviet times, and to harass everything today? Catastrophe? so tell me what is the disaster? as well as a set of common phrases. sold plundered, read Russian literature. at all times they write the same thing and that the country is standing, it has been standing for more than 1000 years, and even after 1917 it has stood and will stand, in spite of all the moans of people like you. I am not from United Russia, I just love my Russia
              1. Standard Oil
                Standard Oil 18 July 2013 13: 50 New
                +4
                I understand you, your philosophy of life is my hut, carefully veiled by kvass patriotism. Alas, there are a lot of such people, and with the current education there will be more and more. Result: A herd of sheep. The discussion can be considered finished.
                1. t-95
                  t-95 18 July 2013 14: 11 New
                  -2
                  I studied in Soviet times, and you end the debate only because there is nothing to say. You are an ordinary moaner who moaned at the advice that everything was bad, under Yeltsin, which is even worse, but now because you don’t know anything else. Moan further.
                  1. grafrozow
                    grafrozow 18 July 2013 17: 34 New
                    0
                    Quote: t-95
                    I studied in Soviet times, and you end the debate only because there is nothing to say. You are an ordinary moaner who moaned at the advice that everything was bad, under Yeltsin, which is even worse, but now because you don’t know anything else. Moan further.

                    Michael do not mark the beads before St. ... and. Born to crawl, cannot take off.
                    1. Misantrop
                      Misantrop 18 July 2013 17: 40 New
                      +1
                      Quote: grafrozow
                      Born to crawl, cannot take off.

                      Easy. A plate of pea soup with herring, then fresh milk with fresh cucumbers. Stopudovo on a jet stream will take off laughing
                      1. grafrozow
                        grafrozow 18 July 2013 19: 57 New
                        +1
                        Yes, he gave a blunder, -born crawl-cannot fly. Peas, herring, milk, cucumbers .. Tomorrow I will ask our watchman what he eats.
        3. Anti
          Anti 18 July 2013 12: 26 New
          -2
          Quote: Standard Oil
          There was a war in Chechnya, but who defeated it? Who arranges dances on the squares of our cities and considers ordinary Russian sheep to be slaughtered? Yes, the army now receives two tanks and one plane a year, it was rearmament cool. Amerikosy drove openly as you wanted, your True, they just don’t need it now, they got what they wanted, and why did you get the idea that they don’t rule now?


          Is this not sedition? What then? I gave you the link http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/289249/
          1. Standard Oil
            Standard Oil 18 July 2013 12: 38 New
            +3
            And what does this explain, apart from discussions about the theory of power?
            1. Anti
              Anti 18 July 2013 13: 07 New
              -3
              I would say that. undermining existing power, and not reasoning about theory, a way of influencing the consciousness of citizens. the constant repetition of the same statements so that they become accustomed to and accepted not by reason, but by faith. Kramola in one word.
              1. Standard Oil
                Standard Oil 18 July 2013 13: 34 New
                +5
                Wait and see who was right, I see the existing government as a herd of crooks and thieves incapable of anything else, and as a rule this statement is confirmed every day. If someone is good to live with the illusion that the Tsar is kind and the environment is to blame, let lives, in the end people used to think that the Earth is flat and stands on three elephants.
                1. t-95
                  t-95 18 July 2013 14: 13 New
                  -1
                  Apparently, they taught you to think, but to analyze, nature mother did not give you such an opportunity, well, what happens, and people live with such abilities
                  1. Imperial
                    Imperial 18 July 2013 18: 13 New
                    +1
                    You can say anything, but we still haven’t eaten Stalin, yesterday’s article confirming that Ukraine still sells the Soviet heritage confirms it, and I attribute it to Stalin, because who was there after him? There’s no more chairmen. About the balance sheet, I don’t justify Stalin and those repressions, I won’t refer to time, BUT you can shoot a million but you will be called millions and you’ll be called a tyrant, but you can’t give a helping hand and 15 million called a democrat.
                2. Anti
                  Anti 18 July 2013 14: 13 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Standard Oil
                  If it’s good for someone to live with the illusion that the Tsar is good and the environment is to blame, let him live, in the end people used to think that the Earth is flat and stands on three elephants.


                  The king is correct, without doubt and illusions, sent by the Creator, in a difficult time for the country. A time of ruin and collapse. People think a lot of things, but they don’t think out, or maybe they don’t want to think. They want everything at once. But it doesn’t happen, the destroyed one needs to be restored by neutralizing the delayed mines placed by the “reformers”. How quickly you can move in the minefield, you do not need to explain.
  18. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 18 July 2013 09: 50 New
    +7
    An article in the topic!

    Well this is an open, direct question to GDP, remembering its last "... when will you, dear friends, begin to work? ...".

    In one I will argue with the author - about the "non-involvement" of the Bolsheviks in the events of 1917.

    Yes, both Nicholas and the Provisional, judging by what happened, were, as they say, weaklings.
    But to this day, disputes continue on the topic "Whose mill Ulianov-Lenin poured water from his comrade", conducting furious campaigning of the army, propagandizing the country's exit from the First World on ANY CONDITIONS, despite the predictable close finale. The conditions of the Brest-Litovsk world put everything in its place. I believe that such a "betrayal" of the Entente by Russia is at the heart of modern antagonism.
  19. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 18 July 2013 09: 58 New
    +2
    "Under Gorbachev, some inflated heavyweights like Yakovlev, Ligachev, Primakov, who knew how to only gorgeously shake their palm, blew up"- but about Primakov, this is an author in vain, why put this talent on a par, with anyone!
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    Well this is an open-ended, direct question to GDP, remembering its last "... when will you, dear friends, start working? ...".

    Probably, as soon as they introduce PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for the decisions made, the RESPONSIBILITY is completely criminal.
  20. dmb
    dmb 18 July 2013 09: 59 New
    +3
    It is written interestingly, although not indisputably. Well, in the first place, it was not worth it to talk so indiscriminately about the period of favoritism. "The merry queen was Elizabeth." But with her were the Shuvalovs and the Vorontsovs. In her period, the gift of Lomonosov was most fully revealed. At the same time, under Catherine, after the brilliant Alekhan Orlov and Potemkin, such insignificance as the Teeth appeared. The idealization of Stalin instead of a sober assessment, in my opinion, brings (including the ideas that he served) much more harm than good and does not suffer from the presence of logic. Well, Nikita was a rare volunteer, but the "brilliant personnel officer" Stalin brought him to the heights of power. Did not make out the "Trotskyist" essence? But what about the regularly quoted phrase from the 30's: "Take it easy ...". And the Leningrad affair? Fans of talking about the exceptional good for the country of repression mention it deafly, because by and large there is nothing to present to the defendants. And finally about Tukhachevsky. "Prominent strategists" in the army, as a rule, did not serve and studied military science exclusively according to academician Arbatov, Khramchikhin and Sokolov, who call him a symbol of military mediocrity. But for some reason, I believe more in Marshal Vasilevsky, who, in my opinion, understood a little better than those mentioned, and evaluated Tukhachevsky with great respect. About multi-tower tanks in general a ridiculous argument. In those years, multi-tower liked both the Americans and Germans. The tanks were like that, and their tasks were different than in 41. Or does Mouse’s development also say that everything that the Germans did in the field of tank building was mediocre?
    1. creak
      creak 18 July 2013 11: 16 New
      -1
      Rokossovsky, Meretskov and Gorbatov were also declared enemies and mediocrity .. Maybe the same story with Tukhakovsky ...
    2. grafrozow
      grafrozow 18 July 2013 12: 30 New
      +1
      Tukhachevsky commanded the suppression of the Antonov uprising in the Tambov region. where I applied OB.
      1. dmb
        dmb 18 July 2013 15: 31 New
        0
        So what? Even if this is true (although no evidence is given), can you name the laws prohibiting such use at that time ?. At the same time try to explain. what does it matter when evaluating the Tukhachevsky commander.
        1. grafrozow
          grafrozow 18 July 2013 17: 51 New
          0
          Quote: dmb
          So what? Even if this is true (although no evidence is given), can you name the laws prohibiting such use at that time ?. At the same time try to explain. what does it matter when evaluating the Tukhachevsky commander.

          When using OM, all living things die, he used it against RUSSIAN peasants, and this is not secret information, look on the Internet. For the USSR, there were no international laws at all, but as a commander, read his tank doctrine "100000 tanks to Europe for the victory of communism," ingenious, no words.
          1. dmb
            dmb 18 July 2013 19: 21 New
            0
            The presence of the Internet in your home is not evidence of the use of the OM by Tukhachevsky. You will refer to the sources. Once again I explain that what is immoral for your liberal consciousness today was the norm in those distant years. Let me remind you that everyone used the gases in the war, and no one was tried after her for crimes against peace and humanity. Pathetic exclamations about the "Russian peasants" would be good. if the Red Army, according to today's new-fangled, liberal theories, consisted solely of "Zionist mercenaries who intended to destroy the Orthodox people." But it consisted mainly of Russian peasants, who quite deliberately gouged Antonovshchina quite rightly considering it a bandit formation that raised an uprising in the rear of the warring army. Joseph Vissaryenich, for lesser pranks, evicted a lot of people from the Caucasus. Your striking thought about the non-recognition of international laws of the USSR by your depths most likely indicates that. that you ended your education once and for all after elementary school, otherwise you would have known that Antonovschina was liquidated in the 1921 year, the USSR was formed in December of the 1922 year, and the Geneva Protocol prohibiting the use of chemical. arms signed in 1925 and the USSR immediately joined him. Once again, bloggers may be authoritative for you, but for me, in the assessment of Tukhachevsky, it’s still Vasilevsky.
            1. grafrozow
              grafrozow 18 July 2013 22: 12 New
              -1
              Quote: dmb
              Once again I explain that what is immoral for your liberal consciousness today was the norm in those distant years.

              Well, frankly, damn it, the speech of the Komsomol activist at the meeting, the norm-deed of Pavlik Morozov, if you remember, he laid down the FAMILY FATHER. Now link-order of Tukhachevsky No. 0116 of June 12, 1921. by the way there about the executions of hostages.
              Quote: dmb
              Geneva Protocol Prohibiting the Use of Chem. weapons signed in 1925 and the USSR immediately joined it

              Do not lie, not at a meeting, protocol, yes, in 1925. but the USSR ratified it in 1928. This does not remove responsibility from the Bolsheviks, do not spin like a weather vane, then you want the West, then give an example
              Quote: dmb
              . Pathetic exclamations about the "Russian peasants" would be good. if the Red Army, according to today's new-fangled, liberal theories, consisted solely of "Zionist mercenaries who intended to destroy the Orthodox people." But it consisted mostly of Russian peasants, who deliberately gouged Antonovshchina quite rightly considering it a gang,
              Provide data on how many and what classes made up the Red Army, along with the nationality of the leaders of the CPSU. I think it’s not difficult with your deep education, and read about the Russo-Polish War, this is where the commander shone with talent.
              Quote: dmb
              Joseph Vissaryenich

              This is so for fun you call "the leader of all times and peoples" or from a great education. By the way, "A Short Course in the History of the CPSU" is not the best source of knowledge.
              1. dmb
                dmb 18 July 2013 23: 29 New
                +1
                . But they did not try, if they do not agree, to answer on the merits. without distorting. I thought for a long time whether it was worth repeating the previously written, but even if the bitter truth is the destiny of only Komsomol activists and liberals, it has no relationship, then I’d better stay in the ranks of the first. About Pavlik Morozov, the norm was not discussed in the discussion. Usually this cheap trick is used when, in essence, the discussion has nothing to say. As for Tukhachevsky, if you are literate, then in my comments there was no talk of the fact that he did not issue such an order, I only asked to give the source instead of gossip. You did it, honor and praise to you. But here with the rest you have a clear problem. So all the same, the norms of international law were recognized in the USSR ?, Was it formed after the liquidation of the Antonov gangs? I can’t give the list of classes and their numbers in the Red Army with all my and your desire, because such an account did not exist. They were abolished as early as 1917 by a decree of the Council of People's Commissars. As for the percentage of workers and peasants of which it consisted, it is very easy to calculate that with 80% of the peasant population in Russia in 5, a million-strong army can by no means consist solely of those whose nationality so interested you. By the way, 30% of commanders were officers of the imperial army in the past. And there, with this nationality, it was generally bad. And it is completely incomprehensible where does the nationality and the pillar nobleman Tukhachevsky. On the whole, your answer reminded me very much of the old humoresque: "Fedya has a lot of words for you, but you cannot put them apart." Yes, to the question of knowledge, the Short Course was by the CPSU (B.), Not the CPSU.
        2. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 18 July 2013 18: 10 New
          +4
          Quote: dmb
          what does it matter when evaluating the Tukhachevsky commander.

          Could you tell me where Tukhachevsky drove the regiments against the EXTERNAL enemy, and with what results?
          1. dmb
            dmb 18 July 2013 19: 35 New
            0
            You know the generals. not losing a single battle? Tukhachevsky is certainly not Suvorov, but Kolchak and Denikin did not apply to them either. for against them Tukhachevsky drove the regiments quite successfully. How would he fight, be alive to 19451, guessing is pointless.
          2. grafrozow
            grafrozow 18 July 2013 22: 18 New
            0
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Could you tell me where Tukhachevsky drove the regiments against the EXTERNAL enemy, and with what results?

            Polish campaign, an example to follow.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 19 July 2013 10: 46 New
              +3
              Quote: grafrozow
              Polish campaign, an example to follow.

              The Polish campaign is not badly "dismantled" by historians.
              Egorov, advancing to the south-west, simply did not keep pace with the pace of Tukhachevsky, who "broke like an elk through the bushes" after the Poles retreating to Warsaw.
              As a result - open flanks, extended communications. Further known.
              And ordinary Poles did not welcome the Red Army at all.
  21. vostok1982
    vostok1982 18 July 2013 10: 38 New
    0
    Ivan the Terrible, Stalin, Putin are the rulers most hated by the West. Each of these people led Russia to an unprecedented influence (Putin is still in the process, the results will be one year by 2020-24, although the difference in Russia's geopolitical position in 1998 and 2008 is already visible with the naked eye. And thus, these three will be "tyrants" and "dictators."
  22. lexe
    lexe 18 July 2013 10: 59 New
    -1
    Cadres decide everything. And is this slogan from a good life?
    Yes ... having a desert landscape with frames was a problem.
    In the 21st century primary selection of personnel will no longer be decided by a person, but by a computer with established criteria and modern means of candidate verification.
    So personnel officer I.V. Stalin is already in the past. Chuyka can also be deceived.
    I would like to wish Putin good luck in personnel matters, as well as the development of the technological base and selection principles.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 18 July 2013 18: 19 New
      0
      Quote: Lexi
      In the 21st century primary selection of personnel will no longer be decided by a person, but by a computer

      Quote: Lexi
      wish Putin good luck in personnel matters, as well as the development of the technological base and principles of selection.

      You don’t want that, on computers we have Dimon.
      1. lexe
        lexe 19 July 2013 21: 36 New
        0
        I don’t agree ...- Dimon has a showcase for the West. And for such purposes, everything from A to Z must be of its own production.
  23. creak
    creak 18 July 2013 11: 03 New
    +4
    The author mixed everything together and gave everyone an assessment ... No need to take too much on yourself. E. Primakov is a non-charged person, a real statesman, and therefore he was not allowed to turn around properly. If there were more leaders in power, there would be more such leaders as PRimakov, we would now live in another country and not complain about the incompetence of the authorities.
    Primakov became objectionable as soon as it became clear that he primarily defended the interests of the state and would not allow any thieves to unfold. The author glues labels too easily.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 18 July 2013 18: 24 New
      0
      Quote: ranger
      The author glues labels too easily.

      I agree. What article did not like. In addition, a lot of controversial moments in the vision of historical events.
      Quote: ranger
      Primakov became objectionable as soon as it became clear that he defends the interests of the state in the first place

      Many have forgotten the role of the Primakov-Maslyakov government. They dragged the country from the abyss after default. And then they were not needed.
  24. Valery-SPB
    Valery-SPB 18 July 2013 11: 27 New
    +4
    Middle Brother RU Today, 10:26 ↑ New

    The king is made by his environment ...


    About kings and cabbage.

    The "Middle Brother" is wrong. The king does not make the king, but it plays him. The king himself picks up the suite. The role of the retinue is to emphasize the outstanding genius of the king, real or imaginary, in a secondary game. The more green cabbage is around, the more willingly and convincingly the role is played.

    Through hardship to the stars.

    By virtue of the objective laws of the development of society, a person seeks to improve life and progress. The process can be stopped, or you can turn back. And upon reaching the desired condition, little by little or in jerks, first return the selected, and then make a leap forward to ..., to the level of countries that were not involved in experiments, while simultaneously pretentiously voicing the outstanding role of the next reformer.
    1. Middle-brother
      Middle-brother 18 July 2013 12: 14 New
      0
      Quote: Valery-SPB
      The "Middle Brother" is wrong. The king does not make the king, but it plays him.

      Perhaps that is not exactly expressed. Then like this, "Tell me who your friend is ..."
  25. Black
    Black 18 July 2013 11: 40 New
    +4
    Until in Russia "cadres" are decided, and not the system, not the law, we will hang out anyway in the hole. Lucky with the "frame" - up, no luck, call down.
    1. t-95
      t-95 18 July 2013 12: 24 New
      +2
      Please name at least one country where the system decides everything and the law, and not the staff? I think these are the components of one chain, and any state without a leader, no longer state
  26. optimist
    optimist 18 July 2013 12: 31 New
    11
    Zadolbali already these "loyal" articles. The author either by thoughtlessness, or deliberately confuses the "king" and "godfather". I repeat for the 100000th time: the chairman of the “gay club” cannot be a normal guy. And only D.E.B.L. we are constantly forgetting that the gdp is the overbald of Yeltsin and Chubais. Only a change in the political and social system in the country, and not a replacement of some thieves and criminals with others ...
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  27. slaventi
    slaventi 18 July 2013 12: 52 New
    -1
    Everything is more complicated with Putin, who nevertheless expelled these spies

    Far from all. Putin at the beginning of 2000x broke the aligarchic system of governance. When the aligarchs appointed by American advisers appointed ministers themselves. But somehow the system is still tied to the United States and eliminates national cadres. Putin partially managed to rebuild the entire management system gather around you nationally oriented cadres concerning part of the security forces and some ministers and vice prime ministers. But the economic bloc, the central bank, the Ministry of Education and Science, the judicial system, all state media are under control Ol 'kolobortsionistov.
    I think in due time we must wait for decisive action from Putin, and for this we need the support of the people. First of all, we need to get the media out of external control. It is impossible to win the war when enemy propaganda processes the population through state channels.
    1. grafrozow
      grafrozow 18 July 2013 17: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: slaventi
      .Putin in the early 2000s broke the aligarchic system of government. When the aligarchs appointed by American advisers appointed ministers themselves. But one way or another, the system is still tied to the United States and eliminates national cadres.

      Damn, that's who made Taburetkina the Minister-American advisers, you bastards, they again told us shit.
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 18 July 2013 18: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: slaventi
      I think in due time it is necessary to wait for decisive action from Putin, but for this we need the support of the people.

      Damn, what dog does he still need? In all elections, 70-80%. The ratings there are all sky-high. His Western colleagues were envious of such numbers. Or lie election commissions with VTsIOM?
  28. Ross
    Ross 18 July 2013 14: 07 New
    0
    Quote: Skif-2
    Quote: Ross
    A strange look at the story of the feeding of Rothschild-Herzen, who was in London with his "friend", or rather the owner, and who published his libel for his money, to put on a par with Suvorov and Kutuzov and Pushkin ????
    There are enough such mistakes in the article.

    Yeah, horses and people mixed up in a heap, and what are the praises of Count Witte, the one who pulled us into an adventure with Port Arthur and, as a result, into the Russo-Japanese War, the one who did everything so that we lost this war and consolidated our loss peacefully agreement, to the one who dragged Russia into debtors to the Rothschilds, and these debts then dragged us into the 1-th World War ... Author or amateur or provocateur. Personally, I stick to the second version.


    Witte was at the trough of the banker Schiff, and this is the same father, the founder of the US Federal Reserve in the near future ...
  29. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 18 July 2013 16: 28 New
    +3
    The article, in my opinion, is generally correct, but in the end ... The author has either not yet reached the obvious, or consciously replaces concepts.

    1 Any power is collegial - the tsar, the secretary general, the president - is the supreme coordinator with decisive voting rights, but the institutions of power are always discussion and voting.

    2 A hackneyed phrase about irreplaceability, at the moment, Putin is bullshit: what is this statement based on - do we have anything to compare with?

    And the last: all the actions of the current Government are not talking about management failures, but rather about successes. The point is not that something did not work out, but in the originally set goal.
  30. Ulan
    Ulan 18 July 2013 18: 10 New
    +1
    The article is not bad. But I think Primakov kicked the author in vain. The man proved his legal competency when Yeltsin was forced to appoint him prime minister after the default and they together dragged the country by the ears of Maslyukov. After that he became unnecessary to Yeltsin. he began to drown his candidacy for the presidency and pour mud on the media. Primakov did not hide that if he was elected he would deal with both privatization and thieves.
  31. bistrov.
    bistrov. 19 July 2013 00: 19 New
    0
    Quote: vladsolo56
    Under Putin, that corruption has disappeared?

    There is corruption all over the world, including in the vaunted “European Union” and in the homeland of “US democracy”. Official corruption in nationalist Ukraine has grown to unprecedented heights, even corruption in “totalitarian” Belarus is enough. And in the USSR, that there was no corruption? There was bribery, nepotism and frank clanism. An example of this is the presence of two models of the T-72 and T-80 tanks, which are essentially identical in terms of performance characteristics. Ask the elderly generation how many difficulties it took to get an apartment, everything went into use: bribes, bedding, telephone law, and much more . And this issue was essentially solved by one person, the head of the enterprise, and not the collegial body, that is, the housing commission. And what was worth breaking through, as they say now, into "show business"? To enter a theater institute, or even a school? Jews reigned there, they accepted only their own, the rest of them were sent "on." Outsiders there were few. Do you think it is so easy to deal with corruption? Stalin, with his draconian methods, could not cope, and you want something to “democrat” Putin defeated corruption. It can only be slightly reduced. Corruption is invincible, like the sinful nature of man. It began in paradise when there were only two people: - Adam and Eve. Remember: - apple of contention?
  32. georg737577
    georg737577 19 July 2013 01: 39 New
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    A sage is able to gather around himself both warriors and scientists. A thief - only thieves and bandits. A fagot - will collect only fagots ...
  33. caretaker
    caretaker 19 July 2013 04: 19 New
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    I looked through it. I agree with the assessment of Putin's personnel policy. That's why he retired early from the zoo!
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  34. Captain45
    Captain45 19 July 2013 14: 26 New
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    "This period, called Bironism by the name of the favorite bloodsucker of the stupid queen Anna Ioannovna Biron, ended with the coming to power of Catherine the Second."
    After Anna Ioannovna, the “Queen of the nightmare”, Anna Leopoldovna was on the throne, who was replaced by Elizaveta Petrovna “Petrova’s daughter”, a direct descendant of Petr Alekseevich’s daughter, and then Pyotr Fedorovich “Goshltinsky extortion” and Ekaterina Alekseevna Velikaya who removed him from the throne.
    And to the subject of cadres, they used to say: “Cadres decide everything!”, Now they say: “Cadres decide. And that's it!”