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Poland will continue the licensed production of WVOMAX WVMAXV XC-360P BBM until 2023.

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Poland will continue the licensed production of WVOMAX WVMAXV XC-360P BBM until 2023.

In the Ministry of Education and Science of Poland, the signing ceremony of the package of agreements on the continuation of the licensed production of the WVMAHA AMV XC-360P BTR vehicle was held by the WZM SA Military Mechanical Plant (Semyanovit ленlскеské, Poland) and Patron Land Systems, Finland.


The validity of the contract for licensed production of BBM signed in 2003 year expired in the current year. Taking into account the positive operating experience of armored vehicles, incl. In combat operations in Afghanistan, the MNO RP recognized the need to continue the production of the Wolverine AMV XC-360P APCs with the aim of equipping them with motorized infantry battalions.

The documents were signed by the Chairman of the Board of WZM SA A.Yanik (Adam Janik) and the Vice-President of the company “Patri- and Systems” M. Bollmann.

A total of four documents were signed, including a framework agreement, agreements on licensed production, technology transfer and the supply of individual components and assemblies. The package of contracts provides for the continuation of licensed production, sales organization, maintenance, modernization and modification of AMV XC-360P “Wolverine” armored personnel carriers in the period up to 2023, Altair reports.

According to the Minister of National Defense of the Republic of Poland Tomas Semonyak, after several months of difficult negotiations held jointly by the Ministry of Economy and the Ministry of National Defense of the Republic of Poland, WZM SA and Finnish partners, the parties managed to reach a mutually beneficial agreement that creates conditions for the continuation of the production of the Wolverine in .Semyanowice Slaskie, as well as extends the production license for 10 years.

According to the minister, the conditions of the new agreement create a completely new situation for WZM SA, which introduced significant improvements to the design of the BTR near 65. At present, the “degree of polonization” of BBM makes it possible to state that this is a Polish product (Wolverine BBM is a wheeled armored personnel carrier AMV manufactured by WZM SA, developed by the Finnish concern Patriviklez).

Successful completion of the negotiations allows the AF of the RP and the Polish defense-industrial complex to receive a number of advantages. The main one is to maintain the pace of technical modernization of the armed forces and increase the combat potential of the armed forces of the Republic of Poland.

For the WZM SA plant, the successfully completed negotiations mean further stable development, the possibility of receiving additional orders, improvements to the Wolverine BBM, including using operating experience in Poland, Afghanistan and Chad. The conclusion of the contract guarantees the preservation of 3500 jobs in Poland.

According to Altair, the contract for the transfer of licensed production rights and the framework agreement remove export restrictions that have occurred. Until now, the export market of WZM SA was limited to seven countries. Currently, negotiations are underway on the possibility of selling BBM to Algeria and India. According to unofficial information, last month a proposal was sent to Angola. Each export contract will be negotiated by firms in such a way that they minimally interfere with each other in the world market of defense products.

In connection with the importance and scale of the RP AF program for the licensed production of the AMV XC-360P “Wolverine” armored personnel carrier, TSAMTO considered it expedient to prepare an expanded material on this topic. In the full version it is available to subscribers to the TSAMTO tape.
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  1. Nevsky
    Nevsky 17 July 2013 12: 45 New
    +1
    Currently, the “degree of polonization" of BBM allows us to state what is a polish product (BBM Wolverine is a wheeled armored personnel carrier AMV produced under license at the WZM SA factory and developed by the Finnish concern Patria Wiikles).


    О как!? Теперь право производить по лицензии открывает двери в клуб " разработчиков и КБ"? laughing

    including using operating experience in Poland, Afghanistan and Chad. The conclusion of the contract guarantees the preservation of 3500 jobs in Poland.


    And the Poles were asked if they want to keep their industry and jobs at the cost of the lives of Polish sons thousands of kilometers from even the borders of the once Commonwealth? what

    Send the Poles to Libya, look and still modify what will have to be in the APC. laughing
    1. Tatb
      Tatb 17 July 2013 13: 04 New
      +2
      The Warsaw Pact was bad for them !!! NATO. FRIENDLY am LET BURN IN THEIR NEW BTR In Afghanistan! Libya! Iraq! in short, where democracy is needed! laughing
      1. kosmos44
        kosmos44 17 July 2013 13: 06 New
        10
        Yes, do not give a damn! Let them want what they produce. They feel good, and we’ll give a fuck.
      2. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 17 July 2013 15: 21 New
        +1
        In Afghanistan
        37 Polish soldiers died. Here is a link detailing the title and from which city are called http://icasualties.org/OEF/Nationality.aspx?hndQry=Poland
  2. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 17 July 2013 16: 50 New
    +6
    БТР AMV XC-360P «Росомаха» хорошая машина, обкатанная в локальных конфликтах (Афганистан), по соотношению "Цена-качество" одна из лучших на сегодняшний день в мире. Вооружена 30-мм пушкой "Бушмастер", с задним расположением десанта, тем более, что теперь и производится по лицензии в Польше. Польша- член НАТО, не закупать же им наши БТР-82. Стоит отметить, что и в ОВД поляки ездили на собственных бронетранспортерах, которые производили совместно с чехами (ОТ-64), который был не хуже, а во многих аспектах (один двигатель, более сильная броня, заднее расположение десанта) и лучше нашего БТР-60. Надеюсь наш "Бумеранг" будет гораздо лучше этой новой польской "игрушки".
    1. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel 17 July 2013 18: 06 New
      +5
      Kuznetsov: One engine on an armored personnel carrier is not a virtue, but to some extent a disadvantage is more difficult to operate, but under Damansky our armored personnel carriers went out of combat with one damaged engine, if there were one engine, then there would be a khan to the crew. Thicker armor? To withstand 12,7 mm, you need at least 20 mm to fight at 400 m. And to resist Vladimirov with his 14.5 you need all 40 mm at 500 m and no closer, but then the armored personnel carrier will definitely not be able to swim, and the layout with the rear landing ... not in one conflict the Russian landing never sits inside an armored personnel carrier. You can recall the numerous criticisms of the landing on the armor of tanks during the years of V.O.V., but few pay attention to the recollection of our soldiers, as the Germans in the first battles of 41 went on the attack inside their armored personnel carriers. One high-explosive shell and only shreds flew from the landing compartment. Large losses of a tank landing are more likely an exception than a trend, since for this it is necessary to get into the tank from the first shell and a fragmentation shell, but then the shooter risks getting a shell back in response before loading the gun a second time. If the landing party is absent in the BTR vehicle during the battle, then between the fire and the driver there is a landing compartment, like a fire cut-off, in OT-64 a fire will occur next to the driver. And in general, an armored personnel carrier is not for battle, but for delivering infantry to the scene of a collision, and nothing more, and armor protection can only be for the first seconds of a battle.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 17 July 2013 18: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: shasherin_pavel
        You can recall the numerous criticisms of the landing on the armor of tanks during the years of V.O.V., but few pay attention to the recollection of our soldiers, as the Germans in the first battles of 41 went on the attack inside their armored personnel carriers. One high-explosive shell and only shreds flew from the landing compartment.

        According to Lend-Lease, the Americans supplied us with about 1100 armored personnel carriers. And in them our infantry rode absolutely the same as the Germans in their half-tracked ones. So do not pull the hedgehog on the globe, they rolled on tank armor only because their own legs were the only alternative.
      2. smiths xnumx
        smiths xnumx 17 July 2013 22: 21 New
        +1
        If everything was so wonderful with the BTR-60, the BTR-70 why it was necessary to create the BTR-80 with one engine since the relatively complex and unreliable design of the power plant from twin carburetor engines was also characterized by increased fuel consumption and a number of other disadvantages compared to diesel engine BTR-80. And the fact that the landing party rides on the armor is not a virtue, it is a disadvantage, this means that the armor is weak and does not protect the soldier and, in the absence of a normal mine defense. The same applies to KPVT. There is no doubt that the machine gun is good, but something more substantial is required, which eventually happened in the form of a 30-mm gun on the BTR-80A / BTR-82A, and did not happen due to intrigues in the Moscow region on the BTR-90. As for the landing on the armor during the Great Patriotic War, nothing else remained. Or do you know the Soviet armored personnel carriers, except for those that were put on Lend-Lease, during the war? I think not, because they simply did not exist. Therefore, the infantry moved to the battlefield in trucks or tanks, not protected by anything because the alternative to this was their own legs, or at best as in KMG horse hooves.
    2. kirieeleyson
      kirieeleyson 17 July 2013 20: 30 New
      +2
      And we have at this time:
  3. UFO
    UFO 17 July 2013 16: 53 New
    0
    It is a pity that ours did not begin to produce it, although they wanted to. Wonderful technique, especially with the combat module from the BMP-3 and in the AMOS / yes
  4. Akim
    Akim 17 July 2013 17: 14 New
    +1
    После того, как на Дискавери распиарили "Росомаху" у Польши пошли заказы.
  5. avt
    avt 17 July 2013 17: 32 New
    -3
    Quote: Akim
    После того, как на Дискавери распиарили "Росомаху" у Польши пошли заказы.

    Это да , вот как с пресловутым ,,Страйкером" ,который старая щвейцарская ,,Пиранья ",точно не помню ,но походу ровестница БТР-70 . Вот только когда говорят про самый лучший ,не говорю про конкретный данный финский образец ,то вспоминается эпопея с ,,Кентавром ". Привезли нам итальянцы при табуреткине ,да вот обкатать по нашим кочкам и правилам не дали . Так что прежде чем называть все самым лучшим - хорошо бы сперва в Бронницах погонять ,если так не дают по хорошему ,то в виде трофеев . laughing
    1. Akim
      Akim 17 July 2013 17: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: avt
      Это да , вот как с пресловутым ,,Страйкером" ,который старая щвейцарская ,,Пиранья ",точно не помню ,но походу ровестница БТР-70


      Не надо все хаять. Вы "Росомаху" в "живую" не видели. А написать гадость может кто угодно.
    2. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel 17 July 2013 18: 20 New
      +8
      Арабы захотели проверить наш БМП-3 и погнали его по такой трассе, что несколько раз наши экипажи гусеницы теряли и уже думали, что арабам не понравится это, но когда пришли в финишу им аплодировали...оказывается наша БМП -3 единственная из всех машин, которые они испытывали, прошла всю трассу до финиша, самый лучший результат до них был 50% трассы. Можно критиковать нашу технику в угоду "табуреткиным" и иностранным фирмам, но надо помнить, что законодателями надёжности машин в боях были русские разработки, и на эти разработки ориентируются иностранцы, но у них ум есть, они то понимают, что закупка их техники это рабочие руки и деньги в экономику их страны, потому на г-не будут ездить, но на своей, и если на наши БРДМ -2 ставят иностранные двигатели и подвеску, но ездят и воюют, то этим надо гордиться.
      1. Akim
        Akim 17 July 2013 19: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: shasherin_pavel
        shasherin_pavel

        You read it in Russian or in other foreign sources. Personally, I believe in the reliability of Russian weapons, because I myself have been exploiting it for a long time. But others should not be underestimated.
  6. avt
    avt 17 July 2013 17: 57 New
    0
    Quote: Akim
    Не надо все хаять. Вы "Росомаху" в "живую" не видели. А написать гадость может кто угодно.

    I did not see and did not blame
    Quote: avt
    That's just when they say about the best, I'm not talking about this particular Finnish model

    And I’m saying that it would be good to first drive ANY sample at the training ground, and only then to admire the pictures from the exhibition, as our governors recently headed by Makarov did, claiming that our tanks are the same T-34.
  7. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 17 July 2013 19: 24 New
    +1
    Do not break the spears. Good technique or bad, His Majesty will show the combined arms battle. Then we'll see ...
  8. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 17 July 2013 19: 50 New
    0
    Well, now we will have to tight. Where are we going to get away from such a pearl of design thought. And you DRAIN pour out water. The gentry rushes on the raisin's hat.
    1. smiths xnumx
      smiths xnumx 17 July 2013 20: 09 New
      +2
      Туго не туго, а у нас машин подобного класса к сожалению сейчас не имеется. Основная масса бронетранспортеров БТР-80 с КПВТ, их окололо 4000 единиц, из которых только около 200 БТР-80А/БТР-82А с 30-мм пушкой, принятый на вооружение только в 2013 году (хотя БТР-80 выпускается с 1984 года). Равный, а то и превосходящий AMV XC-360P «Росомаха» БТР-90 в серию к сожалению не пошел, из-за интриг в МО. Остается ждать "Бумеранг", который только разрабатывается, а поставки в войска ожидаются только в 2015 году.
  9. mshl
    mshl 18 July 2013 07: 31 New
    -3
    Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
    BTR-90. As for the landing on the armor during the Great Patriotic War, nothing else remained. Or do you know the Soviet armored personnel carriers, except for those that were put on Lend-Lease, during the war? I think not, because they simply did not exist.

    Как это "их просто не было"??? БА-10, БА-20 и семейство БА-64. Другое дело что их было недостаточно, но они были. Как были и газ-64, газ-67, а не только Виллисы.
  10. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 18 July 2013 10: 42 New
    +2
    Dear mshl, do not demonstrate your complete technical ignorance, the BA-10 you specify (crew of 4 people), BA-20 9 crew of 3 people) and the BA-64 family are armored vehicles and are intended for reconnaissance and communications and in no way for transporting infantry to the battlefield .BA-10 with caterpillar tracks was used during the reenactment of Leningrad from the blockade in January 1944 for transporting infantry on armor. It was true that the BA-64E project for transporting 6 infantrymen, but it remained experimental. True, in 1944 (!) The B-3 armored personnel carrier project was developed, but the prototype did not pass the field tests and did not go into the series. The first Soviet armored personnel carriers appeared only in 1947: the BTR-40 and BTR-152. Yours faithfully! hi
  11. KBPC50
    KBPC50 18 July 2013 22: 29 New
    0
    I saw the article and was happy for my beloved neighbors !!! Hai to spare and rustle in a feed !!! And what the hell do we need on wheels ?. I think so - UKRAINE AND RUSSIA SUPER !!!!