Letter of Joseph Stalin to the teacher of his son Vasily

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Joseph Stalin with his son Basil and his daughter Svetlana


Son of Joseph Stalin Vasily went to a regular school. But of course, everyone knew whose son it was, and it wasn’t without a feeler. However, when the leader’s son “lost the banks”, as we see, a simple teacher could complain “himself” and receive apologies and human words of gratitude.
Now let us compare such cases from the life of the “bloody tyrant” with a modern, democratic and free Russian nomenklatura.

***

Teacher t. Martyshin.

Your letter about the arts of Basil Stalin received. Thanks for your letter.

I answer with a big delay due to work overload. I apologize.

Basil is a spoiled young man of average ability, savage (a type of Scythian!), Not always truthful, likes to blackmail weak “leaders”, often sassy, ​​with a weak or — or rather, unorganized will.

He was spoiled by all kinds of “kums” and “gossips”, which continually emphasize that he is “the son of Stalin”.

I am glad that in your face there was at least one self-respecting teacher who acts with Vasily, as with everyone, and demands from the impudent obedience to the general regime at school. Vasily is spoiled by a director, like the people you mentioned, rags who have no place in school, and if the insolent Vasiliy didn’t manage to kill himself yet, it’s because there are some teachers in our country who don’t let the whimsical barge go.

My advice: to demand a stricter from Vasily and not be afraid of false, blackmailing threats of capricious about “suicide”. You will have my support in this.

Unfortunately, I myself have no opportunity to mess with Vasily. But I promise from time to time to take him by the collar.

Hi!

I. STALIN
8.VI.38
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  1. +84
    18 July 2013 07: 08
    An example of the behavior of this head of state. There would be more of these in Russia.
    1. +55
      18 July 2013 08: 42
      And a real, loving father! Not in indulging everything that the child wants, parental love is expressed, but in severity and justice for the child!
      1. +17
        18 July 2013 14: 36
        MUZHIK said, in this case, wrote. And that’s it. Well done
      2. +14
        18 July 2013 18: 31
        You can just say EXAMPLE. And the father, and the head of state, and the simple patriot of the country, and a decent person, convicted of power. Our politicians have a lot to learn
        1. yak69
          +8
          18 July 2013 18: 52
          Quote: smel
          Our politicians have a lot to learn

          An inquisitive mind and not indifferent nature are capable of continuous learning, but not those who swam fat from comfort and lordship! Our current government is incapable of anything but "lead hands." By and large, the current one has one concern - to get a chair and stay in it for a longer time, simultaneously extracting all possible benefits and privileges. That's all.
    2. -21
      18 July 2013 17: 35
      Well, you can say - an apple does not fall far from an apple tree?
      1. +4
        19 July 2013 00: 38
        It can only roll back far. As geneticists say: "Nature rests on the children of geniuses!"
      2. Stalinets
        +5
        19 July 2013 02: 19
        But it did not fall far. And the war showed it.
    3. +8
      19 July 2013 00: 32
      The video is dedicated to all supporters of Russia's accession to the WTO !!! fool fool fool
      1. yak69
        +9
        19 July 2013 21: 27
        This report should be watched by all Putin fans! They are most of all, foaming at the mouth (from rabies), shouting that "Putin is our everything!", "Putin is the savior of Russia!" and "besides Putin, there is no one else to put!"

        A simple economic analysis (at the high school level) is enough to see WHERE Putin and his appointees are leading the country! And the fact that he re-equips the army and builds a fleet does not mean that he cares for great Russia, but that he does not want to be hanged like Saddam Hussein or perish in the chamber of the Hague Tribunal, like Milosevic. He wants to live out his life sated here in Russia, a full-fledged master, surrounded by his camarilla. And for this he needs a strong army and a powerful fleet. Say: "I must say thank you to him!" I don't think that this will make it much easier for ordinary citizens. Yes, it is easier for the officers of the Ministry of Defense and their families, for the FSB, SVR, Ministry of Internal Affairs, Internal Troops - yes, it's also easier. But even then it is far from the real norm, which the servant of the sovereign should fully use (without thinking about any everyday and material problems, only service).
        But what about other, ordinary citizens and those who do not have an entrepreneurial vein and are used to working in factories, factories, mines, fields? How to be him? And there are a lot of them!
        What do all these Putin fans need to do so that they see their error ?!
        I criticize the government not because I like it or because of natural malice. I lived in a beautiful country (with my own shortcomings and problems), but what I see now and what I face in my work does not "climb into any gate!" For this there is a thug term "Lawlessness" or feudal arbitrariness (if censored).
        I was a free man, with self-respect and dignity. We were not shy that we were workers, welders, plasterers, foundry workers, miners, tractor drivers, crane operators, sailors! We dreamed of becoming doctors, teachers, pilots, engineers, physicists. And now the guys want to become lawyers, economists, bankers, oligarchs, racketeers, and the girls - models, prostitutes or kept women (which is basically the same thing) - in a word, to sell their body and youth more expensive. AND I DO NOT LIKE IT!
        I don’t want my grandchildren and granddaughters to be turned into fucking lumpens and animals !! I do not want!
        And the entire system of the current government - the laws being adopted, the "reforms" being carried out, the mass media-slops, are aimed precisely at this! And if all of you (admirers of the supreme power) do not see this, it means only one thing: YOU ARE PARTICIPANTS IN A STATE CRIME EXTENDED IN TIME. And you will answer to the fullest extent of the Law. Earthly or Heavenly, but you have to answer!
        Remember this always.
        1. 0
          19 July 2013 21: 46
          Quote: yak69
          And the fact that he is rearming the army and building the fleet does not mean that he cares for great Russia, but that he does not want to be hanged like Saddam Hussein or to die in the cell of the Hague Tribunal, like Milosevic.

          And what's wrong with the fact that the head of state considers the interests of the state to be his personal interests (in that order)? I would like Obama’s interests to coincide with America’s interests at least half as well, but alas, his interests coincide with those of a small but loud bunch of liberals of all stripes. am
          1. yak69
            0
            19 July 2013 23: 02
            Quote: Nagan
            And what's wrong with the fact that the head of state considers the interests of the state to be his personal interests (in that order)?

            This is casuistry!
            Here it is necessary to distinguish the goals of such interests. But the quality and focus of the work, and then the final results, completely depend on the final goal.
            You know, communication on this site involves a certain amount of knowledge and practical life experience. And it seems to me that I am reasonably expressing my point of view, and not just playing with words and doing grumbling. Why juggle? request
            1. yak69
              0
              19 July 2013 23: 19
              Maybe Putin sees you as America's guardian of Russia? I assure you, this is an optical illusion, a mirage. And it seems to me that this mirage will soon disappear.
              hi
          2. -2
            23 July 2013 19: 20
            yes no, the order is just the opposite, unfortunately.
        2. Nonamed
          +3
          22 July 2013 22: 49
          Those who do not want to feed and support their army - will be forced to feed and support someone else's.
          1. -1
            23 July 2013 19: 25
            army and not centurions. you probably in Ukraine do not know that in Russia the number of the Ministry of Internal Affairs exceeds the number of the army by the number of personnel of the order of the front in the Second World War.
        3. 0
          23 July 2013 11: 31
          Quote: yak69
          And the entire system of the current government - the laws being adopted, the "reforms" being carried out, the mass media-slops, are aimed precisely at this! And if all of you (admirers of the supreme power) do not see this, it means only one thing: YOU ARE PARTICIPANTS IN A STATE CRIME EXTENDED IN TIME. And you will answer to the fullest extent of the Law. Earthly or Heavenly, but you have to answer!
          Remember this always.

          Well done, I’m with you.
        4. -2
          23 July 2013 19: 29
          I completely agree with you. The education of patriots and not the consumer. But where does this come from if all the country's leadership is engaged in personal enrichment.
  2. Evgeniy8104
    -12
    18 July 2013 07: 52
    It's true?
    1. avt
      +20
      18 July 2013 09: 30
      Quote: Evgeniy8104
      It's true?

      No, of course, Surkov propaganda concocted in the basements of the Lubyanka bully broken hands of an innocently arrested human rights activist. There is one more fake - when Vasya and his friends went fishing, being the regiment commander, and the RSami decided to kill the drunken fish, almost blew up, so the Stalinists, again in the basements of the Lubyanka bully , but already by another human rights activist, they concocted an order by hand written by Stalin on the removal of Vasya from the regiment.
    2. +11
      18 July 2013 22: 49
      Quote: Evgeniy8104
      It's true?

      I am not an expert, nevertheless I think that it is true, or very similar to the truth. The person who said “I don’t exchange a soldier for a field marshal” * could well write such a letter.

      * Stalin's answer to the Germans' offer to exchange Jacob Dzhugashvili for Field Marshal Paulus.
  3. Fox
    +22
    18 July 2013 07: 55
    short and extremely clear, like all the documents of Stalin.
  4. +23
    18 July 2013 07: 58
    Thank! It is from such trifles, from such nuances, that a more or less complete picture of the realities in which our country lived, a portrait of a historical figure IV. Stalin. Not only the Gulag and the NKVD ...
  5. +10
    18 July 2013 08: 07
    Tyrant Stalin, in a "DISCOVERED" form, intimidates his son's teacher!))
    1. avt
      +17
      18 July 2013 09: 34
      Quote: makst83
      Tyrant Stalin, in a "DISCOVERED" form, intimidates his son's teacher!))

      Not - he is sentenced to death under Article 58 - 10 years without the right to correspond, for sure there is evidence in the archives of Memorial about the tragic fate of the repressed teacher. laughing
      1. -5
        18 July 2013 13: 25
        Maybe repressed, it is possible. Because the teacher failed. The father did not cope with it, and neither did the teacher. It is possible that there were "well-wishers" and quietly devoured the teacher so that he would not teach so zealously!
        But there was both Jacob and Artem, albeit an adopted one, but what an uncle! Warriors and real people ... But it didn’t work with Vasily. It happens with the greats, and more often than just people. There is no time ... there is power, but not enough for the sons.
        1. avt
          +8
          18 July 2013 14: 11
          Quote: Mikhail3
          But there was both Jacob and Artem, albeit an adopted one, but what an uncle! Warriors and real people ... But it didn’t work with Vasily. It happens with the greats, and more often than just people. There is no time ... there is power, but not enough for the sons.

          Yes, I watched the interview - Sergeyev’s memoirs good Powerful grandfather! And around Vasily too many lackeys revolved, and he did not go out to be his father’s character, he was weaker at pleasure. Very interesting memoirs, his friend-pilot Nikichikhin left.
        2. stranik72
          +9
          18 July 2013 21: 21
          Well, it didn’t work out, it’s how to look, I fought honestly, I didn’t steal a penny for myself, I didn’t deny my father, I basically sat for it. He answered for everything else with his life. Recently I was at the Troekurovsky cemetery, there are a lot of flowers on his grave and people walk, probably because of his father too, but he was not the last person in this life. Although, in principle, his father failed.
        3. +3
          19 July 2013 00: 42
          Quote: Mikhail3
          But it didn’t work out with Vasily

          What didn’t work out? Maybe the ranks went to him out of turn, but no one flew combat missions for him, and the Germans did not record downed aliens on him. And the fact that under Khrushchev he was repressed was the norm. The brother-in-law of Brezhnev Churbanov was also imprisoned (well, the truth was for that), and Nikolai and his family were shot in the basement.

          At twenty, he went to the front with the rank of captain. During the war made 26 sorties; shot down 5 aircraft and was awarded two orders of the Red Banner, orders of Suvorov II degree and Alexander Nevsky.
          http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD,_%D0%92%D0%B0%
          D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%98%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%84%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D
          1% 87
    2. +2
      18 July 2013 09: 35
      You can highlight the places that gave you reason to think so. If possible, with explanations of the hidden meaning of "seen" by you.
      1. +6
        18 July 2013 10: 05
        The presence of this smile "))" makes me think that it was sarcasm.
        1. +1
          18 July 2013 13: 26
          Hmm, I will not hide, your forced to look from a different angle. hi
          1. +1
            18 July 2013 15: 06
            Well, it happens what to do. hi
  6. +8
    18 July 2013 08: 11
    It is true that Stalin wrote and asked such letters from all hangers-on very harshly.
  7. +18
    18 July 2013 08: 30
    A very revealing letter. Now his position with respect to his eldest son Yakov has become clear. That the main thing is not the children of Stalin, but the Soviet people and there is only one demand and answer from all. The position of a real statesman.
  8. +9
    18 July 2013 08: 40
    I have no doubt that those foreign teachers who teach the offspring of our leaders are strict, and they will teach them to love their homeland, only from beyond the mound and within the framework of universal human beings.
    1. +4
      18 July 2013 16: 31
      Quote: Imperial
      I have no doubt that those foreign teachers who teach the offspring of our leaders are strict, and they will teach them to love their homeland, only from beyond the mound and within the framework of universal human beings.


      Any teacher can invest only his own love or hatred in a student ..
      It is impossible to teach love for the motherland by order.
      Unfortunately, these children are likely to be patriots of the homeland of their teachers ...
  9. +27
    18 July 2013 09: 10
    Always considered I.V. Stalin was an example of a statesman for whom justice was not an empty phrase!
  10. Net
    Net
    +20
    18 July 2013 09: 32
    It is said that once, dealing with his son Vasily about his next arts, Joseph Vissarionovich asked: “Do you think you are Stalin? No! Do you think I'm Stalin? No! This is him - Stalin! And he pointed to his portrait.
    1. kazssr
      +2
      18 July 2013 10: 09
      I heard the same thing about it, in my opinion in some sort of program
    2. +5
      18 July 2013 13: 30
      He was great, he understood everything. Stalin is a man plus a people. Not tired old man, that from work no one came from tiredness, but something great, infinitely powerful and enormous. And based on the entry in the metric, you will not become Stalin ...
  11. Old Cynic
    +27
    18 July 2013 10: 21
    What are you ??? You can not publish materials like this !!!! In no case!

    Otherwise, our "pgavozashchiki" may have a heart attack, and a certain Alekseev's grandmother will knock the lid of her coffin on her own.

    To the author - the deepest respect!
  12. +13
    18 July 2013 10: 35
    This truth looks like science fiction today ... recourse
  13. +16
    18 July 2013 10: 57
    Once again, it was established that Stalin was a very tough and fair person and statesman. It is on him that one should often glance for an example to all our statesmen! For most of the current write such a letter is simply not possible.
  14. uncapital
    +9
    18 July 2013 11: 23
    Such actions of the highest statesman command great respect !!! In the first place - honesty, objectivity, fairness. Translating to our time, it is extremely difficult to imagine that someone from the highest echelons of power would send his child to study in a regular school, and even urge ordinary teachers to treat him like anyone else, rightly pointing out the wrong behavior. Even if we assume that someone in power will send the offspring to study in a regular school (not privileged), then the school leadership and ordinary teachers probably had to personally go to an audience with "his majesty" every day and explain why he has "3", and not "5", because he's all so smart, well-mannered, diligent. It is a shame, however, for such an injustice. It seems like we don't live in India, we officially don't have castes anywhere, but how it happens in practice - I think everyone knows.
    1. +5
      18 July 2013 17: 42
      Well, this is in the best case, and then you look, and YOURSELF would come to school with a bat to "talk", or young people would send to find out: "What, but how?" Or suddenly the higher authorities would recognize the principled teacher as "incompetent" ...
      1. 0
        18 July 2013 17: 49
        Do you know the story of Kapler (the director known at that time) and Svetlana Dzhugashvili?
        1. 0
          18 July 2013 18: 13
          Tell me ...
          1. +5
            18 July 2013 18: 33
            The old libertine Kapler began to stick to the schoolgirl Sveta Dzhugashvili (well, there he stuck his hands in the most intimate parts of the young woman's body, whispering confessions, etc.). Infa got to the father-in-chief of the security and offered HIM to talk to him "in a man's way. But Kapler hammered Sveta's brains thoroughly (I love it, I can't) and Dad spared this ghoul by only sending him out of Moscow out of harm's way.
            1. +2
              19 July 2013 11: 07
              Thanks for "LIKBEZ" ... And where is TIRAN? Well, Putin is now also for the "left-backs" TIRAN - he planted this "holy" man - Khodorkovsky. Or no further than yesterday I "poured" a five on Avalnom ... It is a pity that the "landings" are selective, unfortunately, for those close to them - another LAW.
  15. +24
    18 July 2013 12: 03
    How could Stalin's son not study at Harvard? Only the "Bloody Tyrant" could do this with his own son.
    1. fartfraer
      +17
      18 July 2013 12: 30
      yes, "bloody tyrant." "correct definition." and he left behind two pairs of boots and a little bit of personal, as well as a powerful country with advanced science, a strong army and a bunch of major enterprises. and only poor , after which there are only books (at best) humiliating the USSR shyly hummed about the "personality cult".
      history puts everything in its place and it is not in vain now among me and my friends (very many), as well as unfamiliar people, Stalin is considered the greatest leader of the greatest state.
      Standard Oil, you + from me)
  16. +5
    18 July 2013 12: 25
    It is a pity that the author did not recall the opportunity to read this and other letters on the site http://sovdoc.rusarchives.ru/#main.
  17. andru_007
    +18
    18 July 2013 12: 26
    I catch myself thinking: ...we don’t know our story at all... As for Stalin, he is a gigantic personality that we practically do not know. We are at the mercy of imposed ideological dogmas. Very interesting is Stalin's statement "... when I die, a heap of garbage will be put on my grave, but the wind of history will scatter it ..." (I apologize if I got it wrong). I think it's time to impartially study his personality, in my opinion he really is a phenomenon. Perhaps in the process of studying we will be able to provide answers to the questions of today.
    1. +2
      18 July 2013 14: 22
      I catch myself thinking: ... we do not know our story at all.
      You're right
      We are dominated by imposed ideological dogmas
      hi
    2. Alexander P
      0
      23 July 2013 20: 22
      And here's another

      “My name will be slandered, many atrocities will be attributed to me. World Zionism will by all means strive to destroy our Union so that Russia can never rise again. The edge of the struggle will be aimed at separating the outskirts from Russia. Nationalism will raise its head with particular force. There will be many pygmy leaders, traitors within their nations ... ”I. V. Stalin


      An interesting fact, even under the conditions of a total shaft of misinformation about I.V. Stalin
  18. +12
    18 July 2013 12: 33
    I read in Y. Mukhin about Vasily. It is interesting and, in my opinion, conclusive.
    Vasily was not a coward.
    Vasily was not a bad commander.
    Vasily was not an alcoholic.
    Basil did not betray his father.
    Basil doubted the natural death of his father.
    With his convictions and death, all is not clear.
    Abomination about Basil spread Khrushchev with the followers.
    In general, from Vasily turned out the son of the Leader.
    1. +5
      18 July 2013 12: 43
      And Vasily personally "flunked" the Fw-190. By the way, the question is interesting - you can try to find out exactly who, knowing that it was in the sky of the Kuban (date, time, everything from the flight book)
      1. +2
        18 July 2013 15: 34
        Day 11
        Hi Denis! I have repeatedly heard about two shot down ... but what, you can clarify. Whom did Vasily plant? It would be interesting...
        1. +6
          18 July 2013 16: 19
          Great Volodya! I went on business. I was interested in this topic myself. I will "dig". He officially filled up one on March 5, 1943 near the village of "Semkina Gorushka." memoirs of pilots who fought with him - everyone says that Vaska was a good pilot and a great person!
          1. +7
            18 July 2013 17: 31
            Day 11
            Be sure to dig and tell, really interesting to everyone. And about the fact that he is a good pilot and an excellent man, I came across it from memories. And the fact that it drifted ... so we are all not without sin ... :)))))
    2. avt
      -1
      18 July 2013 13: 04
      Quote: My address
      Vasily was not an alcoholic.

      Here is a mistake, thumped and even treated, but it did not help. It is fully confirmed by the recollections of Sergeyev, the adopted son of Stalin, who spent his childhood with Vasily.
      1. +8
        18 July 2013 13: 14
        It's all nerves! And you have to be more discriminating with the women! In general, the man was good, he helped many people (not only his own). He personally came to the baht and PROVEN (did not ask) their innocence!
      2. Avenger711
        +5
        18 July 2013 15: 21
        Well, a person did not have a life. Precisely because he was the Son of Stalin.
  19. +10
    18 July 2013 12: 34
    The Greatest Man! SUCH PERSONALITIES are born about once every hundred (100) years. NOBODY will convince me!
  20. Yarosvet
    +29
    18 July 2013 13: 14
    Far from the northern ruins
    Blue Tehran burns.
    - What a meeting, Marshal Stalin!
    Sly Churchill says.

    I believe in good omens
    Today I had a dream.
    The leader of the planet
    I was appointed in a dream!


    Of course this elevation
    Please do not take it seriously ...
    - Which, right, coincidence, -
    With a smile, Roosevelt said.

    As a sign of our meeting unforgettable
    Today I had a dream.
    Leader of the universe
    I was appointed in a dream!


    Thinking, Stalin was not embarrassed,
    Slowly lit up the pipe:
    - I also had a dream today -
    I have not approved anyone!
    1. ded10041948
      +4
      18 July 2013 16: 54
      - I also had a dream today -
      I have not approved anyone!
      Bravo! I read it the first time, although I heard it once before.
      With Westerners, this is just how it should be: we jerked a little - the command "Fu!"
  21. Kubanets
    +13
    18 July 2013 13: 22
    A couple of years ago, some wise men brought and made a bonfire from books. He approached and was amazed at the Collected Works of Lenin of the 25th edition and the Collected Works of I. In Stalin. I managed to get several books out of the fire. I first read Stalin. The logic and clarity of thought amazes me
    1. +1
      13 February 2014 19: 50
      Quote: Kubanets
      Collected Works And In Stalin. The specifics of logic and clarity of thought are striking.
      I have preserved the Theory of Leninism and 10 out of 18 volumes of collected works from the past. You read like Pushkin: simple, easy, understandable and everything is on the case, without water and snot. At the chemistry department, we were not pressured by the history of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (100 hours of history versus 140 hours of practical work - that's where there was not enough time!), So to save money, instead of Borodin and Pavlenko, I wrote synopses and abstracts on Stalin (without specifying the source, of course). Fives and "automatic" at the end of the year! Thank you, Joseph Vissarionovich! soldier hi
  22. +11
    18 July 2013 13: 36
    Stalin is the best leader of the Russian Empire since the time of Ivan the Terrible.
    The draft "Stalinist" constitution of 1937 was the most democratic in the world.
    Stalin is a liberal. He made only collegial decisions. Unfortunately, most are not always the best. The best, on the contrary, are crushed by the masses.
    Stalin -. I did not see in the newspapers his fully published report at the 19th congress. Only now are his expressions published at a reception in honor of the Victory. He knew how the printed word works. Why not use it? Why hasn't he officially raised a successor? The same Masherov or Romanov. One was killed, another was lit.
    1. Avenger711
      -6
      18 July 2013 15: 36
      Kirov was apparently the successor, for which he was killed.
    2. dmb
      +2
      18 July 2013 16: 11
      Eh Vasya, Vasya. You would have to get secondary education besides primary. Maybe they would have written before reading something. At the time of Stalin's death, Masherov was the second secretary of the Minsk regional committee. and Romanov did not engage in party activities at all. The designer was at the plant. Zhdanova. One must think that if Stalin heard something else about Masherov, then certainly there wasn’t about Romanov.
      1. +5
        18 July 2013 16: 23
        One thing that a person is interested in is already good. You need to tell him good literature
      2. +3
        19 July 2013 01: 43
        Quote: Vasya
        Why hasn't he officially raised a successor? The same Masherov or Romanov

        Even Brezhnev caught the eye of Stalin only once. According to the recollections of an eyewitness:
        - Who is it?
        - Comrade Stalin, this is Brezhnev, 1st Secretary of the Central Committee of Moldova.
        - What a beautiful Moldovan!

        What Masherov and Romanov are there.
  23. Andrii
    +3
    18 July 2013 14: 56
    Good dad.
  24. +9
    18 July 2013 16: 56
    You see, the father is not in excess

    No good in the chest, no rubles in the savings book.

    But a power thousands of miles long

    He considers his main savings.
    This was written by one of the designers of "Katyusha" I. Gwai to his son. JV Stalin could have said the same words.
  25. +3
    18 July 2013 17: 02
    Once again I am convinced that my grandfather is right ...
  26. ded10041948
    +7
    18 July 2013 17: 04
    Something tells me that during Stalin's time, our State Dura would have ceased to exist without having time to be elected! It is even indecent to compare. Stalin, the leader, saw himself first of all as a part of the Motherland, which must be loved and protected, and demanded this from his entourage, and those from their own, etc. And modern ones? These are not the Leaders, these are "Leaders" from the "optimistic tragedy" and the end will be just as inglorious.
  27. +3
    18 July 2013 17: 14
    These were the leaders! Stalin's three sons fought, but did not sit in the rear in "warm" places, Khrushchev's son (as if it does not apply to him) also fought, Molotov's nephew. And the leaders of the Hans had the same children. What is the explanation for this? Who thinks? Personally, I have my own opinion, but I would like to hear from you
    1. +5
      18 July 2013 17: 46
      Quote: Den 11
      These were the leaders! Stalin's three sons fought, but did not sit in the rear in "warm" places, Khrushchev's son (as if it does not apply to him) also fought, Molotov's nephew. And the leaders of the Hans had the same children. What is the explanation for this? Who thinks? Personally, I have my own opinion, but I would like to hear from you


      I know that the sons of high-ranking military men in Moscow were killed in Chechnya, so there are people with honor who have managed to raise children today.
      1. -1
        24 July 2013 19: 44
        Quote: Andrey Skokovsky
        I know that the sons of Moscow high-ranking military men died in Chechnya,

        And why did you get that they were Moscow?
        1. +1
          24 July 2013 19: 48
          And why not?
    2. -1
      18 July 2013 18: 59
      In my opinion, Stalin had two sons.
      1. +3
        18 July 2013 19: 29
        Stalin had 3 (three) sons, one (Artyom) adopted
      2. 0
        24 July 2013 19: 47
        not only, but also a daughter.
  28. Misantrop
    +6
    18 July 2013 17: 19
    Quote: Den 11
    What is the explanation for this?
    IMHO all these people (regardless of political addictions) built their country. So they lived the life of the country, that they themselves, that their children. Well, if someone stupidly earns loot, planning to dump to hell, when the trough is shallow, he will attach children to where he plans to live AFTER ... request
    1. +3
      19 July 2013 11: 33
      They are absolutely right! Gorbi shit the country and dumped, Eltsyn did not have time, he died, but his Tanyushka - already a citizen of Austria - is like one "patriots" of the Motherland. Just as iUd did not have a Motherland anywhere and never, it will never be, they will rob the people of the country where they live, shit more and "knock" out of the country - to "shoe" the other Motherland ...
      1. +1
        19 July 2013 11: 39
        And I'm talking about the same thing! Hans were our enemies, but they should be treated with due respect, because they were also ideological and the children of their leaders also did not hide behind!
      2. 0
        24 July 2013 19: 42
        Quote: ia-ai00
        Gorbi spoiled the country and dumped, Yeltsin did not have time, he died,

        This Yeltsin did not have time to spoil ??? Surround my friend !!!
        1. +1
          24 July 2013 19: 49
          Yes, he didn’t less than Humpback, finished what he didn’t have time, only his phrase "Take as much sovereignty as you can carry" brought more grief to the Russian people than all the activities of Humpbacked before him.
        2. +1
          13 February 2014 19: 58
          Quote: voronov
          This Yeltsin did not have time to spoil ??? Surround my friend !!!
          I didn’t have time to blame.

          All is correct. I don’t like Khrushchev, I ruined the country, but to my credit I must say that after the death, there were no millions left in Swiss banks. And Stalin had to buy new shoes in GUM a day before the funeral (if it was prada, not a legend).

          Oh, how I envy my colleague of those distant 30's! Now, so that at least one parent comes to school and takes up his child ...
  29. +1
    18 July 2013 17: 33
    As for the leaders of the 3rd Reich: the son of Ribbentrop fought in the SS troops in Leibstandart on the Eastern and Western fronts-SS Hauptsturmfuhrer Rudolf von Ribbentrop, Knight of the Knight's Cross, Iron Cross; Manstein’s son died, Halder’s son died, and the two sons of the Third do not die; were sent by law (because of this), but he went to sea and ... died. The list goes on
    1. stranik72
      +1
      18 July 2013 21: 25
      You are right the list goes on, Hitler’s nephew, who was sitting in our camps, was captured, somewhere in the beginning of the 50’s he was released.
      1. 0
        24 July 2013 19: 49
        Quote: stranik72
        You are right the list goes on, Hitler’s nephew, who was sitting in our camps, was captured, somewhere in the beginning of the 50’s he was released.
        Yes, the list is large, for example, Komkor Petrovsky, the son of a famous revolutionary and Soviet politician (Dnepropetrovsk - in honor of him), the commander of the 63 corps is a very heroic person, alas, in our country still not appreciated ... He died in the 1941 year.
  30. +1
    18 July 2013 17: 58
    Any questions?
  31. +5
    18 July 2013 18: 31
    ded10041948 (1) RU Today, 17:04
    ... Stalin, the leader, saw himself first of all as a part of the Motherland, which must be loved and protected, and demanded this from his entourage, and those from their own, etc. And modern ones? These are not the Leaders, these are "Leaders" from the "optimistic tragedy" and the end will be just as inglorious.

    That's right, here is a Gorbochev - "STEERED" and FALLED (a) ... a piece shit ... sorry ...
  32. Kubanets
    -3
    18 July 2013 18: 48
    Yes, there are questions but not to DENU 111 but who is behind him
    1. +2
      18 July 2013 19: 32
      "Yes, there are questions, but not to DENU 111, but who is behind him" -DEN 11-and who is behind me? A beautiful wife and two children. YES, this is for me!
  33. 0
    18 July 2013 19: 56
    Guys, what the hell am I getting out of when loading a page TOPWAR- "it is forbidden to modify the ad unit"? A separate window
    1. 0
      18 July 2013 21: 20
      It happens.
      Do not bother, overload and go!
  34. 0
    18 July 2013 20: 30
    Father and son and state!
  35. +7
    18 July 2013 21: 18
    Stalin is an example of the head of state.

    The petty and petty one-day trips of the Russian authorities defame Stalin, fearing a comparison of his genius and their worthlessness.
  36. +1
    18 July 2013 21: 27
    Such personalities as Stalin appear in every state at the time of the most severe crisis and the threat of death, but history already gives an assessment of their actions, this is a "crisis managers" whose actions are not able to be assessed by managers in power in the post-crisis period, as the most successful manager of the USSR said history will judge us.
  37. ded10041948
    +1
    19 July 2013 00: 54
    Just compare the order of Stalin's "cortege" in the Kremlin with any small peelings delivered to the State Dura. Heaven and earth! I'm not talking about the rulers of higher rank. How can you be afraid of your people in order to defend yourself against them?
    1. -4
      19 July 2013 13: 45
      Quote: ded10041948
      Just compare the order of Stalin's "cortege" in the Kremlin with any small peelings delivered to the State Dura. Heaven and earth! I'm not talking about the rulers of higher rank. How can you be afraid of your people in order to defend yourself against them?


      you compare - incomparable, plus use the liberal method of juggling the result is nonsense

      Indeed, in society there is dissatisfaction with a large number of tuples,
      and this is a real problem of the city of Moscow, but it’s not a problem of the country as we are constantly being told by a zombie man,

      In fact, you Muscovites are already sick of it, or reconcile that you are the capital or somehow solve this problem
      why for example, I in Krasnoyarsk should be aware of these your deb .... x buckets, stickers etc., can’t solve the problem with such methods

      Stalin’s motorcade can’t be compared with the deputy’s, not by rank at all

      The protection of the head of state protects the leadership of Russia primarily from other states, and not from the people at all, as liberals and the 5 column constantly try to say

      Stalin's motorcade began to be guarded on the border of the USSR and was protected by a powerful army and special services of the GRU and the KGB, the capabilities and strength of which you can only dream of today

      Putin’s security does not have such powerful protection at distant approaches as it was in the USSR and is forced to strengthen the motorcade itself, which is actually not good, and you as a military should understand this

      I can give an example of the ideal protection of senior management
      during World War II, a visitor comes to Stalin's dacha and is surprised that Stalin has only a couple of guards, although they are not surprised
      it’s just Stalin and with it the whole Soviet people were protected throughout the territory of the USSR.

      PS I somehow read how a person refuted the rezun, one page of the rezunovskoy writings had to be chewed on 3 pages with links, uv ...
      1. ded10041948
        0
        19 July 2013 20: 03
        Only a couple of questions:
        "Trade Union of Russian Citizens" - how's that? Is Russian citizenship a profession with us?
        Do you think Chelyabinsk and Moscow are one and the same?
        Stalin had no idea about such an abbreviation as "KGB"
        "Thank you" for being ranked among the "liberals". I will try not to forget! And for the "fifth column" you can please and under the responsibility.

        Without respect. Grandfather.
        1. -1
          20 July 2013 14: 53
          Quote: ded10041948
          Only a couple of questions:
          "Trade Union of Russian Citizens" - how's that? Is Russian citizenship a profession with us?
          Do you think Chelyabinsk and Moscow are one and the same?
          Stalin had no idea about such an abbreviation as "KGB"
          "Thank you" for being ranked among the "liberals". I will try not to forget! And for the "fifth column" you can please and under the responsibility.

          Without respect. Grandfather.


          The "Trade Union of Citizens of Russia" is a public organization, it is strange that you have never heard of it, for 2 years of work you seem to have done quite a lot. And the name is a relative thing, you won't say that Zhirinovsky is a liberal, judge by his deeds.

          what does Chelyabinsk have to do with it at all, you’re writing about deputies of the State Duma of Russia? really refer to her as a citizen of the USA, later you probably like late .... well oh well ..

          about the KGB and the fact that during the time of Stalin it was not there, you are certainly right, Sorry, I wrote quickly,

          only this mistake doesn’t change anything either in the sense or in the idea of ​​my message, while you didn’t say ANYTHING on the topic, you just went into some strange showdowns and emotions
  38. georg737577
    +2
    19 July 2013 00: 56
    Honestly, I’m shocked ... This is a unique document, to me personally the image of Stalin, after reading it, opened with some completely new, sparkling facet. Awesome. The main thing is that it immediately becomes clear that small people are in power now. The time of the titans has passed ...
  39. +1
    19 July 2013 01: 36
    It is necessary for those who have the opportunity to study archives of more such documents (seemingly private correspondence - but in fact a document of great historical and state value!) Put it on public display. We must fight with all our might against libel against IV Stalin! My grandmother and parents told me that when Stalin died, the whole village was sobbing! Who, except relatives, wept at the funeral of all subsequent ones? Who will sob at the funeral of Gorbachev? Is this not an indicator? Putin, if he really wants to unite our society (its most patriotic and sane part), must clearly and clearly declare in his manner - stop lying and slander I.V. Stalin! He is one of the glorious sons of the Fatherland, an example to follow, along with D. Donsky, A. Nevsky, Suvorov, Kutuzov and many other heroes! We admire the affairs of Peter the Great, and under him the population of the country was halved, executions were commonplace, and our liberals cannot calm down with the repressions of the 1s!
  40. Igor and
    +5
    19 July 2013 02: 23
    Excellent publication in favor of J.V. Stalin! Indeed, it does not hurt to compare more often the facts from the life of the current "democratic nomenklatura" with the facts from the life of the "bloody tyrant" ...
    1. ded10041948
      0
      29 July 2013 09: 40
      Something tells me that the comparison will not be in favor of contemporaries!
  41. 0
    22 July 2013 20: 21
    a mutual role model for all current parents and teachers
  42. +3
    23 July 2013 20: 03
    I.V. Stalin should be cloned; for the sake of saving the state, any methods should be used.
  43. mmmakm
    +1
    24 July 2013 13: 43
    Quote: Mikhail3
    He was great, he understood everything. Stalin is a man plus a people. Not tired old man, that from work no one came from tiredness, but something great, infinitely powerful and enormous. And based on the entry in the metric, you will not become Stalin ...

    In the days of Stalin, one would have thought "another lackey", but now you see that a person writes from the heart and I agree that the majority in Russia thinks so, unlike a small handful of "liberals" from the fifth column.
  44. Obie
    -3
    24 July 2013 17: 11
    Quote: tilovaykrisa
    I.V. Stalin should be cloned; for the sake of saving the state, any methods should be used.

    Let them plan a country for him too - and see how soon the population drops to zero!
    1. ded10041948
      0
      29 July 2013 09: 43
      Do not worry, nobody is going to clone you! We are tormented by minus!
  45. Lukich
    0
    24 July 2013 18: 19
    Quote: sevtrash
    Well, you can say - an apple does not fall far from an apple tree?


    ...not properly! in this case they say -: ... nature rests on children ...

    ... Vasily oh how far to the Father ...
    1. +1
      24 July 2013 19: 52
      Well, he’s not the one for whom he is being given liberitrapras, a man fought, lived in the shadow of his father, and at the same time managed to help many people, didn’t press children on Ferari and dad didn’t dissuade him from the court, but sometimes he understood that he liked to drink when near such a GREAT FATHER.
  46. +1
    24 July 2013 19: 34
    And yet this "barchuk", as his Great Father said, turned out to be a good combat pilot, it is clear that it was not Kozhedub and not Pokryshkin, but Vasily fought, had several combat missions, it is clear that his army superiors, sycophants, took care of and fought on They did not give full, they were afraid of responsibility, God forbid, if anything happened to him, but the risk of being shot down and perishing was great for Vasily, at least he himself did not seek to sit in the rear and I think that in case of force majeure, it is unlikely that I.V. Stalin took an attempt to bring any of Vasily's superiors to justice, he nevertheless understood that there was a war and his son was at the front, and not on walks. Just as there is no evidence that the "bloody tyrant" would repress anyone for being captured and the subsequent death of his eldest son Yakov.
    1. 0
      24 July 2013 19: 39
      Quote: voronov
      And yet, this "barchuk", as his Great Father said, turned out to be a good combat pilot, it is clear that it was not Kozhedub and not Pokryshkin, but Vasily fought,
      The most important thing was that he made an excellent COMMANDER. Many pilots who served under him recall him with warmth ...
  47. +1
    24 July 2013 20: 00
    The letter once again confirms the "bloodthirstiness of a tyrant", to think only how he insults his son, calling him a savage, a barchuk, a blackmailer and wherever the juvenile justice looked, it was immediately necessary to deprive I.V. Stalin of parental rights laughing
    1. ded10041948
      0
      29 July 2013 09: 48
      Humorist! Keep in mind that not everyone on the site has a sense of humor and irony. Some, without understanding, foolishly minus. Plus, to neutralize the anonymous.
      Divorced minusers, like fleas on a stray mongrel! And not one subscribes or justifies its minus!
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  48. Obie
    -1
    24 July 2013 23: 31
    Quote: voronov
    And yet this "barchuk", as his Great Father said, turned out to be a good combat pilot, it is clear that it was not Kozhedub and not Pokryshkin, but Vasily fought, had several combat missions, it is clear that his army superiors, sycophants, took care of and fought on They did not give full, they were afraid of responsibility, God forbid, if anything happened to him, but the risk of being shot down and perishing was great for Vasily, at least he himself did not seek to sit in the rear and I think that in case of force majeure, it is unlikely that I.V. Stalin took an attempt to bring any of Vasily's superiors to justice, he nevertheless understood that there was a war and his son was at the front, and not on walks. Just as there is no evidence that the "bloody tyrant" would repress anyone for being captured and the subsequent death of his eldest son Yakov.

    But as much as you like about the repression of millions of other military personnel and commanders who fell and returned from captivity, or simply honestly doing their duty and for this they were sent in exile, at best, and at worst to the other world.
    1. 0
      29 July 2013 15: 35
      Find this "data on the repressed after captivity" by order of PERSONALLY Stalin and present it, there weren't that many repressed in general - there are data in open publications, now it's too lazy to look, but if you want - I can look ...
    2. egoriy08
      0
      31 July 2013 12: 23
      Dear Voronov, as a person who gets mad at the sight of lies and meanness, you must imagine what is written instead of the word respected. I'll tell you why. My father was taken prisoner at the very beginning of the war. According to how his fate developed and according to your tales, he should have been shot. Short story. He was captured during the retreat in Western Ukraine. Throughout the war he was a prisoner in the western part of Germany. Was released by the Americans. Regardless of fairy tales like yours, he returned to his homeland, according to your and those like you, fairy tales, "an American - German spy." What really happened was a tough test for "lice". But since he was a real patriot of his Soviet Motherland, he found almost everyone who could testify to his innocence before the Motherland. I found my comrades-in-arms with whom I left the encirclement without cartridges. Who left him, wounded, in a shock of straw, intending to return for him at night. Who knows and who has the brain to imagine that retreat, he will understand that his comrades, with that retreat, could not return without being captured or perishing. He also found those with whom he spent many years of captivity, with whom he was engaged in sabotage, organizing escapes, etc. Yes, the investigation was carried out harshly, as befits an investigation in such cases. My father even tried to throw himself under the train, but was saved by his wife, my future mother. And you know what he once told me about that time. "I am not offended at them (the KGB). After all, it is not written on my forehead who I am, but scum and traitors were among us and they had to be found and shot. They cannot be left behind." And such a story, firsthand, is not the only one. And you dear, very respected, Mr. Voronov write about the millions of repressed Soviet citizens who were captured. If you only knew, Mr. Voronov, how I respect you as those for the sake of whose identification my father patiently endured interrogations and other sufferings. Later he studied, joined the CPSU, held a leading position in one of the Transneft departments. And as a communist he is no match for such highly respected communists as the Yeltsin, Putin, Medvedev, Ayatskov, seagulls, and others and others who are very respected by me.
      1. egoriy08
        +1
        31 July 2013 13: 16
        I apologize to Voronov. My letter is addressed to the esteemed Obie, in whose comment Voronov’s reply was posted. In my previous comment, instead of Nick Voronov, you need to read Obie.
  49. egoriy08
    0
    31 July 2013 11: 27
    Since childhood I have had a healthy or not healthy, I don’t know, interest in the war, in the history of the formation of the USSR, therefore I have absorbed a lot of information, which is called "firsthand". Yes, and enough experience and observations. And when I read the title of this publication, I presented the text of the letter as it is. Otherwise, this person could not answer.
  50. wise man
    0
    19 November 2013 01: 55
    something was wrong with this letter: Vasily Stalin in 1938, after finishing the 9th grade, entered Kacha http://kachinets.ru/face.php?id=1114
    the letter is dated June 6, 1938 - i.e. at the end of Vasily’s school.
    conclusion - either a letter - fake, or ...

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