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Who raises the Far East

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Who raises the Far East Rosneft is ready to invest in the development of Eastern Siberia and the Far East more than a trillion rubles.


Barely saying goodbye to the participants of the Baltic expedition "Gogland-2013", Russian President Vladimir Putin went on a working trip to the other end of Russia, to other seas - to Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk. In the Baltic, during the dive on an underwater vehicle to the sunken frigate “Oleg,” the head of state, by his own admission, was most struck by the quality of the work of the submariners, and on Sakhalin Putin again managed to communicate in detail with the real professionals who accomplished for the country big and difficult thing.

The communication took place in the form of a video conference with the Orlan drilling platform located in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, on the Sakhalin shelf. The main interlocutors of Putin were the president of Rosneft, Igor Sechin, and the head of Exxon Mobil Development, Neil Duffin. Both had arrived in advance on the platform created by the hands of Russian and foreign specialists, and now they were reporting to the President about the success of the collaboration.

Rosneft: a trillion on development

Having familiarized Vladimir Putin in detail with the parameters of Orlan, a giant structure measuring 100 on 90 meters and weighing 70 thousand tons, providing work for twenty wells, Igor Sechin added that ten kilometers from Orlan a new platform is being built, but with a mass in 150 thousand tons, designed for drilling 46 wells. According to the head of Rosneft, it has no analogues in the world today.

Sakhalin-1 is just the first offshore project in Russia. Its total recoverable reserves are 218 million tons of oil and 465 billion cubic meters of gas. 58 million tons of oil and 12 billion cubic meters of gas have already been produced; this brought the country about 8 billion dollars to the treasury. However, these figures pale before the grandiose prospects that Rosneft expects to reach on the Arctic shelf in Eastern Siberia and the Far East. The large-scale geological surveys carried out today on the company's three “Magadan” projects, as well as geological exploration work on the Astrakhanovskoye-Nekrasovsky Sea site near Sakhalin, allow us to hope for 14 billions of tons of oil equivalent in the projected geological reserves.

According to Sechin, the development of the resource base of Rosneft in the region of Eastern Siberia and the Far East creates the possibility of developing new strategic projects on our Pacific coast. One of such projects is the construction of a liquefied natural gas plant on Sakhalin. Another growth direction is the creation of an Eastern petrochemical complex in Primorsky Krai with a capacity of up to 30 mln. Tons, which will reduce the risks of a shortage of petroleum products in the domestic market of the Far East.

According to the head of Rosneft, the implementation of such projects will lead to the development of related infrastructure in the regions. We are talking about the construction of ports, electric power facilities, roads and railways, the creation of related industries and tens of thousands of new jobs. And what is the prospect of the appearance in the Far East of a special large-tonnage shipbuilding, the need for which was proved both by the operational experience of the Orlan and the extreme demand for such equipment when developing the Russian shelf! Political will to create such fleet it has already been shown in the corresponding order of the president, which now, according to Sechin, needs to be "unconditionally executed."

All this is not empty searchlights. As the head of Rosneft said, already in 2013, the oil state company will invest in its own development programs in the Far East about 52 billion rubles, of which 27 billion will be spent on exploration and production of hydrocarbons, and 23 billion on their processing and modernization of Komsomolsk Refinery. In the next five years, Rosneft’s investments in Eastern Siberia and the Far East will, according to a conservative scenario, amount to a fantastic amount of more than one trillion (!) Rubles. For this, according to Sechin, only presidential support and stabilization of tariffs and tax regimes will be required.

In turn, Neil Duffin, head of Exxon Mobil Development, stressed that both drilling platforms in question were built by his company with Russian participation: our side designed and built the foundations of both platforms.

Government left "for the fall"

Wishing success to the interlocutors, the Russian president continued his working visit to Sakhalin, at the end of which he was awaited by a meeting on the social and economic development of the region, with the participation of key ministers of the federal government. At this meeting, there were much less rosy figures indicating a lack of state attention to the needs and concerns of the island. In particular, Putin mentioned the natural decline of the Sakhalin population, which was 1,6% only in the first 3 months of this year. Another example is the level of gasification of the island: it reaches only 10,1%, with the national average 60%.

What is the reason that the Far East can not realize its potential? No money? Wrong: budgets are available. Missing development programs? No, there are plenty of plans. Here they are only realized very badly. For example, it turned out that four fifths of all presidential assignments formulated at the State Council Presidium on the development of the Far East and Transbaikalia late last year were simply not implemented by the government. But all the orders were previously agreed with the ministries, it turns out that government officials could not even fulfill their own promises.

It could not satisfy the head of state. “I want to address you, dear friends: will you work or not? - Putin asked, turning to the ministers. - What is this? We have already met in some regions and discussed how we work, what is the style. The overwhelming majority of these orders have been rescheduled for autumn. Well, let's look at what will be done in the fall ... "

Stressing that the Far East is the most important region of the country, Putin called on the government to fulfill its own agreements. “We are now discussing with Igor Ivanovich [Sechin] before we meet,” the president summed up. - I think that he is right: everything does not work so efficiently with us. I draw your attention to this. ”
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  1. domokl
    domokl 17 July 2013 06: 30 New
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    I don’t understand, what kind of fools are they holding us for? What programs? Rosneft is implementing its programs and Far East deep into the drum. They will build a bunch of pumps and pump oil to Japan and China. And who will pump it? And shift workers will pump it.
    Siberia and the Far East will never be raised if the problem of moving people from the central part of Russia to us is not solved. No shifts can be saved. Zauralie has depopulated .10% of the country's population on such territory is how? Well, look at recent history how this issue was resolved in 50 years. Cinema look Soviet.
    Money should be invested in a person, in solving this particular problem. And then all other problems can be solved very easily. Siberians and Far Easterners did not run and do not run from work. They love their land, but we are just few.
    1. Login_Off
      Login_Off 17 July 2013 07: 18 New
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      Yes ... The population in Zabaykalye is very small. But look at how much profit the state brings to the Far East. You will not see direct statistics, as All large enterprises are registered in Moscow. There is Gazprom, and their daughters, Gazprom Vostok (which has almost been closed) and Gazprom-Tomsk, to which the remaining functions are transferred. Now, if you count for 1 person, then the Far East is not a poor land, but rather the opposite.
      But apart from resources, they are not going to develop anything here. The government has one strategy - SALE OF RESOURCES, and there is enough for centuries.

      Z.Y. SW Muscovites, for fun, look at our and your salaries, compare living conditions, as well as the cost of living. I do not think that someone voluntarily will go to Moscow from the Far East. But before they went, for the money!
      1. domokl
        domokl 17 July 2013 08: 13 New
        +5
        Quote: Login_Off
        Yes ... There are very few people in Zabaykalye

        The entire population of Siberia and the Far East is less than officially registered only in Old Moscow. And if you take Moscow and Moscow oblast, then there are half the number of people living in the 2 beyond the Urals.
        1. Krilion
          Krilion 17 July 2013 12: 39 New
          +8
          I’m also going to leave Sakhalin with my whole family in the near future ... to those places where the climate is better and essential goods are not so expensive .. I don’t know for the whole Far East, but in Sakhalin it makes sense to live only by sticking to the oil and gas pipe (and then, with a subsequent departure), or by a court verdict ... how the government is going to develop something without people is not entirely clear ..
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 17 July 2013 15: 07 New
            +8
            Article, Another empty chatter from Vova Balablokin,
            "The Sakhalin Development Program, adopted at the end of December last year, has not been fulfilled by 80 percent, and the implementation of most of the program items has been postponed until autumn. As reported by Interfax, President Putin said at a meeting in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk."
            it's time to recognize reality.
            1. Karabu
              Karabu 17 July 2013 18: 01 New
              +4
              Quote: author
              Who raises the Far East

              in the foreseeable future, most likely the Chinese will raise. along with your flag naturally
              1. does it
                does it 17 July 2013 20: 37 New
                +7
                Quote: Karabu
                in the foreseeable future, most likely the Chinese will raise. along with your flag naturally

                Here I am about the same! in previous comments, I wrote that the national idea should be one development of the Far East, in the news media should not show the first thing to DOVO DIMA and the Far East! and propagandize it so that people themselves would go there not only to relax but also to live. And road construction, cheaper flights and so on can make a big contribution to this. But not advertising an oil and gas company.
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 17 July 2013 21: 06 New
                  +9
                  Quote: kvirit
                  people themselves went there not only to relax but also to live. And road construction, cheaper flights and so on can make a big contribution to this.

                  So they did in the days of the USSR — they built, invested, and introduced the so-called local salary coefficient, with promises of benefits. And the children were taken to rest in an organized south to take a rest. And it was not so long ago.
                2. honest jew
                  honest jew 17 July 2013 21: 54 New
                  +4
                  in the foreseeable future, most likely the Chinese will raise
                3. Karabu
                  Karabu 17 July 2013 23: 37 New
                  +2
                  Quote: kvirit
                  the idea should be one exploration of the Far East

                  and Siberia!
                  but Mr. Putin prefers to push us into the bottomless northern Caucasus, which is now not being called a part of Russia. Siberia and the Far East feed us x ... and the Caucasus is robbing us, so we will give them more and more! the logic is quite understandable for the modern RF. WHAT IS BETTER THAN BETTER!
                4. Semen Semyonitch
                  Semen Semyonitch 18 July 2013 01: 51 New
                  +2
                  Quote: kvirit
                  Quote: Karabu
                  in the foreseeable future, most likely the Chinese will raise. along with your flag naturally

                  Here I am about the same! in previous comments, I wrote that the national idea should be one development of the Far East, in the news media should not show the first thing to DOVO DIMA and the Far East! and propagandize it so that people themselves would go there not only to relax but also to live. And road construction, cheaper flights and so on can make a big contribution to this. But not advertising an oil and gas company.

                  At least 40% of the income from gas and oil should be invested in the development of the region, and not go to the "bins of the homeland" ... Then there will be jobs and wages. And there people will reach ...
                5. abdrah
                  abdrah 18 July 2013 05: 43 New
                  +2
                  God is with him, but Dima can only be launched as anti-advertising, for example, he would take privatization 2 under his guardianship.
          2. honest jew
            honest jew 17 July 2013 21: 52 New
            +5
            Rosneft: a trillion on development
      2. Aryan
        Aryan 17 July 2013 11: 35 New
        +3
        Well, not only the sale of resources, I was recently in Vladivostok, it’s like a computer plant was already launched there, I thought Samsung took part there, but your truth, the Russian people are very, very lacking there, all the bus drivers are all inhabitants of the east, etc. ..
        Yes, there are a lot of resources in the FER, but the most important thing is the human resource, sorry there *** sad
      3. honest jew
        honest jew 17 July 2013 22: 29 New
        +6
        Many, for peace of mind, force themselves to believe in power. How else to explain the fact that people are dissatisfied with their position, criticize the government, but at the same time the rating of the head of government is overwhelming. A lot of people out of habit, rooted since the Soviet Union, perceive power as a mother. Although this has long been an evil stepmother, feeding people leftovers from the oligarchic table.

        The majority of working people still do not want to see the difference between the “masters” who have seized national wealth and themselves - hired workers. Very many do not yet understand that they are victims of ruthless exploitation.

        Of course, the oligarchy, with its provocative wastefulness, contributes to the recognition by the people of the fundamental difference in the interests of the top and bottom. However, cowardly dodges like "they are lucky, but we do not" are still common. People’s belief in the possibility of change is undermined by an endless series of disappointments in politicians, governments, parties. And television swotting with stupid TV shows, an endless chronicle of murders and violence, laughter and advertising strongly clouds the consciousness of the masses.

        For centuries, our great ancestors did not create, develop, and defend Russia so that it would rot in the hands of a handful of thieves and bribe takers. The current government has become a brake on the development of the country's productive forces, both material and spiritual. She must leave and will inevitably leave the historical arena. The intellectual and bureaucratic servants of the Russian oligarchy, which drove the country into crisis, today are no longer able to hide their bankruptcy.

        The people understand more and more clearly that we are not going to move back. We call Russia only forward - towards socialism!
      4. Revolver
        Revolver 18 July 2013 03: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: Login_Off
        But before they went, for the money!

        And also under guard. And Lenin went to Shushenskoye, and Stalin didn’t go to Turukhansk Territory.
    2. fzr1000
      fzr1000 17 July 2013 08: 21 New
      +4
      Can I read it more carefully before I panic?

      We are talking about the construction of ports, electric power facilities, roads and railways, the creation of related industries and tens of thousands of new jobs. And what is the prospect of the appearance in the Far East of a special large-tonnage shipbuilding, the need for which has been proved both by the operational experience of the Orlan and the extreme demand for such equipment when developing the Russian shelf! The political will to create such a fleet has already been shown in the relevant instruction of the president, which now, according to Sechin, needs to be "unconditionally executed."

      And "extra" money will not interfere with the country, so they will produce oil in the Far East, and invest money in development.
      1. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 17 July 2013 08: 34 New
        +6
        fzr1000 "We are talking about the construction of ports, power facilities, highways and railways, the creation of related industries and tens of thousands of new jobs. And what is the prospect of the emergence of a special large-scale shipbuilding in the Far East, the need for which has been proven, as the experience of operating Orlan and the extreme demand for such equipment in the development of the Russian shelf! "
        All right! We are talking about the development of the Far East and coming !!! It seems from the beginning of the 2000s, everything is in question. The plans are voiced by a grand trillion there, a trillion here ... This is me to the fact that maybe it's time to do something already ... And then all the plans, plans ...
        1. afire
          afire 17 July 2013 08: 53 New
          +1
          as I understand it, if at the expense of resources we develop (build cities, industries, develop technologies, promote science) and make money on it, then it’s not a question, but if you redo the old within the existing framework, it’s a write-off of money. For example - we take the middle point between Krasnoyarsk and Yakutsk, we get to the Lena River. We are laying there a powerful state production of modern wood materials, we are developing harmless hydroelectric power stations for generating energy, modern canning enterprises are nearby (there are no fewer gifts in the forest than in the ground), and a residential micro district will appear next to it automatically. Problems with delivery? stupid things. A small airport will solve absolutely all problems with the delivery of materials, which by the way can be arranged along the river, as well as people. And there, roads and trade and shops will appear, and the rest of the production will catch up.
          In our country there is too much everything where you need to invest and there’s just stupidly not enough money for everything, and not everyone will risk developing from scratch, especially the state, since if it fails, all the trash will whine and start talking about squandering budget funds and that it would be better if these trillions invested in pensioners and the like. Otherwise, nothing. Otherwise, a person will not appear in the remote taiga and will not begin to develop it.
          Development is the most expensive event of a modern person!
        2. fzr1000
          fzr1000 17 July 2013 08: 54 New
          -2
          In 2000, to recall what happened or do you remember? Money ... and falling apart can be fast, building and rebuilding decades.
          1. Nagaibak
            Nagaibak 17 July 2013 18: 15 New
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            fzr1000 "Pi ... money and you can ruin it quickly, build and rebuild for decades."
            Golden words ... Do not build to break.
          2. Semen Semyonitch
            Semen Semyonitch 18 July 2013 02: 02 New
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            Quote: fzr1000
            In 2000, to recall what happened or do you remember? Money ... and falling apart can be fast, building and rebuilding decades.

            Yes, progressive movement takes place, but very slowly ((((. And about building and rebuilding ... At what rate did the national economy revive after the Second World War ??? And after the Borusik, the third five-year plan ends ...
      2. domokl
        domokl 17 July 2013 08: 37 New
        +4
        Quote: fzr1000
        It's about building

        It’s you who carefully read the comments. It’s about building everything, but we are discussing the question “FOR WHOM? And who will build it? Do you really think that cabinet journalists are sitting here? No, we walk on deserted territories. There’s physically nobody left.”
        The territories are simply settled by the Chinese. They are not conquered, not rented, they are simply settled. All the same, no one else is there.
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 17 July 2013 09: 04 New
          -8
          Local and from all over Russia will build. What is incomprehensible here? Such a volume of construction - a bunch of organizations and people will be involved. And how to maintain and use-whoever builds for himself, he will figure out how to do it. It’s unlikely that they will be alone shift workers. But do you personally need to develop infrastructure (roads, energy), create new enterprises (new jobs, potential new customers for local business)? Chinese migrants are always moved from the ground if this land will need to be used in the public interest. For any need to do something with the Far East. It is good that in the Kremlin at least somehow in the last three years they began to talk about it and offer something, unlike in previous years.
          1. fzr1000
            fzr1000 17 July 2013 13: 10 New
            -1
            Yes, it’s better to sit on your ass, vote prosralivsepolymers and put cons ...
            1. fzr1000
              fzr1000 17 July 2013 19: 49 New
              -2
              Well, put a "-", but what else are you capable of?
              1. fzr1000
                fzr1000 17 July 2013 22: 16 New
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                And also? And they say a person can not be trained. smile
                Lost DV-bad, they are going to pump oil, a new refinery to build (maybe gasoline will be cheaper), building roads is also bad. Decide already ...

                It’s a pity here you can’t neglect yourself, for the sake of raising the mood of some pessimists and reassuring especially nervous comrades, I would have cast myself into the ranks. And everyone would be fine.
      3. mogus
        mogus 17 July 2013 09: 09 New
        +4
        And the 2018 World Cup?
        Moscow expanded - it is necessary to equip ...
        The APEC summit has passed - what problems that people are fleeing has solved?
      4. Aryan
        Aryan 17 July 2013 11: 37 New
        +3
        and people take all this hde? belay
      5. aviamed90
        aviamed90 17 July 2013 12: 47 New
        +5
        fzr1000

        That's right - we are talking about this.

        But this speech has been going on for decades! Is something done? Or again: 20 years is not enough?
        And who told you that Rosneft will sponsor all this?

        Huge plans, but the result, something is not visible. Words alone.
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 17 July 2013 13: 15 New
          -2
          Speech about this (DV) has been going on for three years. While they counted, while they made the project, while all the departments reviewed and approved, while the Great was persuaded and signed. The term is normal. I don't know if Rosneft will sponsor or not. At least now there is someone to ask for failure. Earlier, and that was not.
          I have no urapatriotic enthusiasm, but there is hope that at least the symbiosis of commercialism and common sense will unfold the situation with this region.
          1. aviamed90
            aviamed90 17 July 2013 14: 01 New
            +3
            fzr1000

            Quote:
            "This (DV) has been going on for three years."

            And before that, the Far East was not part of the Russian Federation?
            1. fzr1000
              fzr1000 17 July 2013 16: 18 New
              +1
              He entered, but the Kremlin remembered this from time to time. I’m not working in the Kremlin or even in government agencies, if that.
          2. fzr1000
            fzr1000 17 July 2013 19: 51 New
            +1
            If from your "sticks" something would change. Well, assert yourself further.
            1. Semen Semyonitch
              Semen Semyonitch 18 July 2013 02: 08 New
              +1
              Fundamentally plus for the will to win hi
              1. fzr1000
                fzr1000 18 July 2013 10: 29 New
                0
                Thank you hi
            2. Semen Semyonitch
              Semen Semyonitch 18 July 2013 02: 23 New
              +1
              Quote: fzr1000
              If from your "sticks" something would change. Well, assert yourself further.

              A person is subject to a flock reflex. Respect is caused by people with their own life position. I do not completely share your optimism, but I agree on something ... The patient is more likely alive ...
              1. fzr1000
                fzr1000 18 July 2013 07: 44 New
                0
                I don’t quite share your optimism, but I agree on something


                And where to go? I am not going to leave the country. Wait and see.
                1. Komsomolets
                  Komsomolets 19 July 2013 09: 40 New
                  0
                  And since you are such an optimist, come to us from your Moscow Transbaikalia to raise, maybe we will increase optimism.
            3. aviamed90
              aviamed90 18 July 2013 12: 14 New
              +1
              fzr1000

              Are these sticks so important to you?

              Judging by your rank (on uniform), they should not have significance for you.
              But somehow I need to express consent or disagreement.

              Next time I will add as much as I need.
          3. A-50
            A-50 18 July 2013 02: 53 New
            +2
            Quote: fzr1000
            there is hope that at least a symbiosis of commercialism and common sense will unfold the situation with this region.

            negative it is a very weak "engine". Remember WHAT drove the Soviet programs. Many will think of the "long ruble", but this is far from the case. MASS had a completely different energy. There is enough common sense - otherwise we would not communicate here. Mercantile spirit - but whose? Alekperov? Medvedev? Putin? They have long been playing “to keep the count” - passionary impulses are alien to them. And the entrepreneurial activity of the people is EXTINGUISHED - you have to be blind not to see it. Right now, the turnover tax has been introduced - again a lot of IPs and LLCs will be covered. Plus a "humane" amnesty - good for thieves - for "siloviks" a way of squeezing businesses out of entrepreneurs who do not have power resources. I'd really like to hope for the best and share your Moscow optimism, but ... If you build at the same pace as Moscow wassat , it is very possible that we will not be in time. And we will not walk and ride along the beautiful new bridge in Vlad (who needed it ?!) I really want to make mistakes in assumptions hi
            1. studentmati
              studentmati 18 July 2013 03: 10 New
              +1
              Is something painfully pessimistic about Voldemar? The situation is critical, but not so, I suppose? Russia still has chances to preserve the Far East.
              1. strange and pretty meaningless
                strange and pretty meaningless 18 July 2013 04: 50 New
                +2
                Quote: studentmati
                Is something painfully pessimistic about Voldemar? The situation is critical, but not so, I suppose? Russia still has chances to preserve the Far East.

                Sadly, I tend to agree with the A-50. The situation in the Far East is critical. From here - from the Far East - so it is seen. The whole message of racial power is to improve and strengthen the "pipe". The notorious "jobs" are mouse tears. Read the article -
                Neil Duffin, head of Exxon Mobile Development, emphasized that both of the drilling platforms in question were built by his company. with Russian participation: Our side designed and built the foundations of both platforms.
                AT THE RUSSIAN PARTICIPATION - here you have the PARTICIPATION of the Far East of the Russian Federation. Natives. Moreover, the mocking words of the First Person:
                The vast majority of these assignments carried over to the fall. Well, let's look at what will be done in the fall ... Vova DV merges - and the Great Summit Construction looks like a pre-sale preparation. In the best case - renting out. With the entire population.
                However, let's wait - maybe everything will work out on its own. You are a plus for optimism.
                1. studentmati
                  studentmati 18 July 2013 05: 01 New
                  +1
                  We are waiting .... But there is no way out ...
              2. A-50
                A-50 18 July 2013 05: 12 New
                +2
                Yes, I'm not crying - we survive HERE as we can, but mlyn. Pts hard. All these "improvements" and "infusions" only make life worse - such is the paradox. Why? Because for an ordinary inhabitant of the Far East, all these grandiose construction projects and plans will bring only one thing - RISE IN PRICES. The same as Sochi-2014 for the local residents. The rise in housing prices is catastrophic - it becomes more and more inaccessible. All these injections of money only add to the income stratification of society. The industry is revitalized very selectively. Moreover, the main industrial assets are already private. The entire social sphere of enterprises "sagren" to the municipalities - and successfully passed. Again, the new owners will not take over the gardens and hospitals. It turns out that with the current distribution of income from orders for the industry, HOW MUCH DO YOU LIKE - everything will leak and settle NOT HERE. This is a systemic impasse - a crisis of the social system, whatever one may say. Moreover, at the top there are such blatant Russophobes as LADIES. Oh, I'm sad, friends. But I’m not giving up. bully
                1. fzr1000
                  fzr1000 18 July 2013 07: 43 New
                  0
                  In Sochi, prices rose and rolled back. They began to actively build housing and the supply was approximately equal to demand. Keep your tail with a gun, but don’t you really crawl into the cemetery?
                  1. strange and pretty meaningless
                    strange and pretty meaningless 18 July 2013 12: 56 New
                    +1
                    Quote: fzr1000
                    In Sochi, prices rose and rolled back. They began to actively build housing and the supply was approximately equal to demand.

                    Market thinking - pulling back. "The supply is roughly equal to the demand" - means only that housing is being built as much as there are people able to pay for it. This does not solve the problem. It is necessary to look at how many people need normal living conditions, at least according to Soviet social norms, they are clearly not overstated. From the fact that the problem is not noticed - it will not be resolved. As a doctor, I tell you - it's better to overstrain, a hernia is fixable. Rotting alive is bad.
                  2. strange and pretty meaningless
                    strange and pretty meaningless 18 July 2013 13: 00 New
                    +1
                    Quote: fzr1000
                    Keep your tail with a gun, but don’t you really crawl into the cemetery?

                    Yes, we will not give up alive. I'm worried about the children. I would like to understand the grandchildren. And the cemetery itself creeps. The trouble is that the LIVE leave. The territory is gradually turning into a hospice, populated by retirees. And they don’t care what ...
            2. fzr1000
              fzr1000 18 July 2013 07: 56 New
              0
              There is already no USSR. Phantom pains will not lead to good. Now other incentives are real. In the end, it is thanks to the symbiosis of industriousness and commercialism that America and China (yes, China with Japan and South Korea) have become what they have become. Do you think there was no corruption and theft in the United States at the beginning of the 20th century? What about financial fraud? And what about police corruption (in other words, the police mafia) in a city like New York, which was defeated only in the 70s of the 20th century? In China, officials are constantly being tried. We do not have it yet, but I think that they will start here too. Maybe not under Putin. It's just that Russia, if someone at the top has enough intelligence (but not blind obedience) at the bottom of the people, there will be a similar, but more "clumsy", difficult, with a bunch of unnecessary losses that can would be avoided, a long way to go. It is also impossible to overstrain now. And the system of GULAGs, Komsomol construction projects, etc., is now not possible. You can fantasize as much as you like, but impossible, and that's it. A choice of priorities is possible (which does not tolerate delay, which can be put in the second place, because, again, it will not work out for everything at once) targeted financing, financial control, setting strict deadlines, quality control and criminal liability for theft, failure to meet deadlines delivery of the object and lack of quality. It just has to work. Whoever launches and arranges all this, selects or educates the appropriate personnel for this, will be Stalin 2.0, roughly speaking. But it will not be possible to quickly fix what happened in Russia in the 90s and early 2000s. Or it will come out, but the result will not be good, we will overstrain.
              1. strange and pretty meaningless
                strange and pretty meaningless 18 July 2013 12: 50 New
                +2
                Quote: fzr1000
                And the system of the Gulag, Komsomol construction sites, etc. .. is now impossible.

                She and NOT NEEDED stop We must NOT DRAIN the people, do not plunder it and not squander the remaining assets. NO PRIVATIZATIONS, GUARANTEES OF BASIC LIFE GOODS ACTUALLY - HOUSING (!), HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, FAMILY SUPPORT. NECESSARY - AND INEVITABLE - NATIONALIZATION OF BASIC INDUSTRIES - ENERGY, PRODUCTION OF RAW MATERIALS. WE HAVE NO TIME FOR THE LONG WAY !!!
                1. fzr1000
                  fzr1000 18 July 2013 13: 52 New
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                  Here I agree, this is a priority.
                  I wrote about the long way, referring to the construction of a more or less new, already stable system tailored to humans.
              2. strange and pretty meaningless
                strange and pretty meaningless 18 July 2013 13: 07 New
                +1
                Quote: fzr1000
                In China, thieves-officials are constantly tried. We do not yet, but I think that we will start. Maybe not under Putin.

                I agree-not under Putin. He is the watchman of capital - in his contract there are no such powers. But the purges will have to start before 2024. Inhats will be judged by the Khitans.
      6. kosmos44
        kosmos44 17 July 2013 14: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: fzr1000
        We are talking about the construction of ports, electric power facilities, roads and railways, the creation of related industries and tens of thousands of new jobs. And what is the prospect of the appearance in the Far East of a special large-tonnage shipbuilding, the need for which has been proved both by the operational experience of the Orlan and the extreme demand for such equipment when developing the Russian shelf! The political will to create such a fleet has already been shown in the relevant instruction of the president, which now, according to Sechin, needs to be "unconditionally executed."

        And "extra" money will not interfere with the country, so they will produce oil in the Far East, and invest money in development.


        Utopia. What, and around what everything revolves and so everyone understands. And what "country" this money will get, everyone is also aware. Until we "cure" ourselves, people will not live better in Russia.
      7. Nick
        Nick 17 July 2013 23: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: fzr1000
        Can I read it more carefully before I panic?

        Only professional alarmists panic here.
        1. strange and pretty meaningless
          strange and pretty meaningless 18 July 2013 04: 58 New
          +1
          There are no less professional "optimists" here.
          1. fzr1000
            fzr1000 18 July 2013 07: 58 New
            +1
            It’s better to be optimistic. Or, as I wrote above, crawl into the cemetery.
    3. valokordin
      valokordin 17 July 2013 09: 24 New
      +5
      Quote: domokl
      I don’t understand, what kind of fools are they holding us for? What programs? Rosneft is implementing its programs and Far East deep into the drum. They will build a bunch of pumps and pump oil to Japan and China. And who will pump it? And shift workers will pump it.
      Siberia and the Far East will never be raised if the problem of moving people from the central part of Russia to us is not solved. No shifts can be saved. Zauralie has depopulated .10% of the country's population on such territory is how? Well, look at recent history how this issue was resolved in 50 years. Cinema look Soviet.
      Money should be invested in a person, in solving this particular problem. And then all other problems can be solved very easily. Siberians and Far Easterners did not run and do not run from work. They love their land, but we are just few.

      No need to play with illusions, Sechin does nothing for the people. They will get oil, they will sell the money, they will share it. Why on earth would a bourgeois share with someone.
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 18 July 2013 10: 41 New
        0
        But Sechin, even if he does not do this project for the people. Let him just bring it to the end. Indeed, any large and long-term project brings jobs, salaries, infrastructure and energy development, replenishment of budgets, not only federal but also local.
      2. Nick
        Nick 18 July 2013 21: 30 New
        -1
        Quote: valokordin
        Sechin does not do for the people. They will get oil, they will sell the money, they will share it. Why on earth would a bourgeois share with someone

        1. Why won't Sechin do it?
        2. Why won't the bourgeois share with someone?
        3. Why do you consider Sechin a bourgeois?
        Justify your statements.
    4. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 17 July 2013 15: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: domokl
      I don’t understand, what are they holding us for fools?

      Well, we have no other leadership. No. And where to get it - the problem is akin to the eternal Russian question "What is to be done", reflected in the studies of Chernyshevsky and Ulyanov-Lenin.
      ..I want to contact you, dear friends: will you work or not? ... - reminds "the last Chinese ...".
      They have already discussed more than once at the Forum - who whom ...
      Looks like a serious and strong-willed decision is required - but this is a completely different story ...
    5. honest jew
      honest jew 17 July 2013 21: 51 New
      +1
      Rosneft: a trillion on development
    6. honest jew
      honest jew 17 July 2013 22: 26 New
      +5
      “We must make our country a country economically independent, independent, based on the domestic market ... We must build our economy so that our country does not turn into an appendage of the world capitalist system, so that it is not included in the general scheme of capitalist development as its subsidiary enterprise, so that our economy does not develop as an auxiliary enterprise of world capitalism, but as an independent economic unit based on the link between our industry and the peasant economy of our country. ”

      (From a speech by I.V. Stalin at the XIV Congress of the CPSU (B.) In 1925).

      Destruction, moreover, consciously, of industry and agriculture. Voluntary transition to the role of a raw material power is an appendage of the economy of other countries. Unrestrained squandering of irreplaceable natural resources and thoughtless attitude to the environment of Russians. The Russian economy, created at the cost of tremendous efforts and sacrifices for many generations since the time of Peter I, through the efforts of the Russian tsars and then the Soviet government, the current "elite" was simply thrown overboard, as if it did not meet the country's needs.

      Nothing was created in return. On the ruins of Russia, the ball is ruled by an oligarchic and bureaucratic crow, completely dependent on their foreign “partners”, who never had other strategic goals as subjugation and unbridled exploitation of Russia.

      “I would prefer chaos and civil war in Russia to the tendency to reunite it in a strong centralized state,” Henry Kissinger said frankly after the fall of socialism. Madeleine Albright, not far from him, said: "It is unfair that Russia owns such a vast territory." Or Condoleezza Rice: "Russia has too much land."

      Not to see or not want to understand this is tantamount to a betrayal of the interests of the country. And it is committed before our eyes from year to year.
  2. smel
    smel 17 July 2013 06: 34 New
    10
    It is strange that this question was unexpected for everyone. East, Sakhalin, Kuril Islands, Kamchatka - these are abandoned regions of the country. If you visit villages there, then the Ural and Siberian villages will seem centers of civilization. And if you also see military towns, especially those that are abandoned, then Armagedon will seem like happiness. Therefore, he said about the strangeness of this assessment.
    The population decline, at the same time, the dominance of the Chinese, the lack of production (except for agriculture, but they also work from the Middle Kingdom), antediluvian housing and communal services, a huge number of unrealized plans - this is not a complete list of problems. The Ministry was born to solve the problems of these territories, Ishaev was put in charge of him. And where is the result?
  3. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 17 July 2013 06: 41 New
    +7
    So what is the reason that even funded government programs have not been implemented? Perhaps it was that again no one was held responsible? The "analysis of PROlet" was postponed until the fall, and there, you see, new important things will pile up (Sochi, for example, will have to be urgently "brought to mind") and again everything will calm down. Until the next visit of the High Chief. Irresponsibility breeds mismanagement. Elementary axiom.
    1. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 17 July 2013 07: 03 New
      +9
      Quote: serge-68-68
      So what is the reason that even funded government programs are not implemented?

      In frames ... and only in frames! It is not in vain that our highest results of state development were associated with the slogan "PERSONNEL DECIDES EVERYTHING!" Then the staff plowed like "slaves in the galleys" ... at the same time they learned professionalism. Now, with the slogan "STAFF DECIDED .. AND EVERYTHING!" they decide. But they solve, first of all, their own, career and personal issues, and not state-managerial ones ... the latter are solved like this, along the way. Taking care of yourself ... about your future well-being is the main thing!
    2. domokl
      domokl 17 July 2013 08: 16 New
      +8
      Quote: serge-68-68
      So what is the reason that even funded state programs are not implemented

      The fact that there is still a Soviet proverb — For one slave — two foreman, for Siberia and the Far East changed — For one slave 100 foremen (of which 99 are in Moscow)
    3. fzr1000
      fzr1000 17 July 2013 08: 22 New
      -1
      Sochi will end in half a year.
      1. aviamed90
        aviamed90 17 July 2013 12: 51 New
        +5
        fzr1000

        And the next "event" with zero economic effect will begin.
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 17 July 2013 13: 18 New
          -2
          Wait and see. Sochi 2014 was not an enterprise with an economic effect initially.
    4. avt
      avt 17 July 2013 09: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: serge-68-68
      So what is the reason that even funded government programs have not been implemented? Perhaps it was that again no one was held responsible? The "analysis of PROlet" was postponed until the fall, and there, you see, new important things will pile up (Sochi, for example, will have to be urgently "brought to mind") and again everything will calm down. Until the next visit of the High Chief. Irresponsibility breeds mismanagement. Elementary axiom.

      The key point, both in your country and in the tirade of GDP, is AUTUMN. The money has been allocated, and then the old song about the main thing begins. It was not for nothing that Shuvalov was shown on TV — the chief curator and comrades from the field “headed by a“ strong business executive ”, according to Zyuganov, Ishaev. What can be done with the allocated funds in a short autumn? That's right, just to "master" by closing the empty COPs, take them offshore and "deposit" a share of the "responsible comrades" in Moscow. tax revenues, again, to Moscow.In general - it was wet on the wood, start over, not for 37 years.
  4. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 17 July 2013 06: 45 New
    +5
    When the team of "youth", but not ours, but the former first person of the state, is selected according to the principle of not professionalism and work experience, but according to demographic data - youth, then such will be the results. They play football, basketball often and well ... they give all their best so that sweat pours three streams. And at the workplace - they just sit, but they build projects. So send them to big sports: Gosp. MEDVEDEVA - to lead badminton, Mr. DVORKOVICH - basketball. And let the professionals take care of the housekeeper's affairs. In 1998. they have already shown that the old horse not only did not spoil the furrow, but also corrected the flaws of the premier of "KINDERSURPRISE". The current situation and the state of affairs then, in 1998, are similar ... therefore it is better not to wait for the "badminton and basketball players" to bring RUSSIA to a new default. How many more failures and non-fulfillment of the PRESIDENT's instructions can be tolerated ... And not 2 hours to give them to evict from high offices, but only 24 MINUTES!
  5. mogus
    mogus 17 July 2013 07: 19 New
    +9
    again about production ... When will production and processing really be, as in the days of the USSR? 1 trillion. Invest - EP, last year more than 6 trillion. pumped into the budget. Recover what the reformers closed in the 90s!
    1. avt
      avt 17 July 2013 19: 06 New
      0
      Quote: mogus
      again about the prey ...

      ,, creation in the Primorsky Territory of the Eastern petrochemical complex with a capacity of up to 30 million tons, which will reduce the risks of shortage of oil products in the domestic market of the Far East. "--------- laughing What's wrong again ? This is his direct profile, by the way, the Komsomolsky refinery will also be reconstructing. Although this is a grief for the local "hillocks", you will take horseradish from Sechin laughing This Ishaev and the head of the company, and even in Moscow, will not give anything to anyone, that's what he said, he will pour money there and ask for it purely concretely. He will not wait for autumn. And as for 1trilien, it's only Rosneft. And the rest must be asked by Ishaev and Shuvalov how much they have postponed for the fall, and at the same time both in Khabarovsk and in Moscow.
      1. mogus
        mogus 18 July 2013 05: 44 New
        +2
        what is wrong - for example:
        Our gasoline in China is cheaper than ours.
        Electricity is cheaper by half in China, although it is exported from us.
        Woodworking - machine tools from China, Germany, Poland. After all, they actually once made machines themselves. In the end, what is the price of these machines, if in half the countries from Europe go?
        Well, they will start driving gasoline, it will not become cheaper for us - everything will go to China and taxes to the federal center will pass by us again.
        It is necessary to restore production on the spot, as it was before (instead of the Olympics, how many plants could be restored ..?)
        1. avt
          avt 18 July 2013 11: 04 New
          -1
          Quote: mogus
          Well, they will start driving gasoline, it will not become cheaper for us - everything will go to China and taxes to the federal center will pass by us again.
          It is necessary to restore production on the spot, as it was before (instead of the Olympics, how many plants could be restored ..?)

          Clear . In general, give the money away and don’t ask us where and how we will spend it, it doesn’t matter whether you sell gas or cheap gas to the Chinese - Moscow is to blame, there is no longer a single RAO UES and electricity is not sold to China by the federal center or the city of Moscow, and quite specific personalities who grabbed a piece of Soviet heritage, even when Ishaev and the locals allocated the money, mastered only 20% and carefully prepared to hide the remainder in the fall, in fairness, we note that together with the curator from Moscow, Moscow is guilty, of course, as a whole, as a result of its existence . All this has already been heard, here from the Ukrainians in whom Moscow ate fat, and so much that they now eat Polish.
          1. mogus
            mogus 18 July 2013 11: 59 New
            +1
            so what is the conclusion?
            - First you need to distribute finances across the country more evenly (and control is tight over spending).
            I have already given an example with deductions to the MAPP, when just the other day they offered to leave half.
            Can you remind me why in a country with a commodity economy, development does not take place where it is mined / produced, but where profit is shared? What will change a lot if the earned money still won’t work in the region?

            I really hope that this will be broken.
            1. avt
              avt 18 July 2013 12: 56 New
              0
              [quote = mogus] so what is the conclusion? [/ quote]
              And the conclusion I have already been tortured to explain to you with specific examples, such as the recruitment of Gelman in Perm and the drain of budgetary funds through his zaher by local authorities. It is necessary to clean the entire chain at once, from Moscow to the very outskirts. Otherwise, in the Far East and Siberia, there will be “Caucasus resorts” as before, “otherwise, no matter how much money you pump into the regions, there will still be one result -“ Will you work? ”And we will wait until autumn. [quote = mogus] Electricity is twice as cheap in China, although it is exported from us. [/ quote] Here again, in this particular case, the games of the REC, and not the federal center.
              [quote = mogus] Well, they will start driving gasoline, it will not become cheaper for us - everything will go to China and taxes to the federal center past us again.
              Here only Pushkin will help you with the tale of the goldfish. Here you will not please you with imported gas and local that they want to do. Although Sechin inspires me with confidence that he will do what he promised. quote = mogus] It is necessary to restore production in place, as it was before [/ quote]
              Again, if, as in the USSR, then the control system should be Soviet. But you can, of course, and as the GDP wants, but then it must take as a rule that "The profession of a leader is the exact correspondence of promises with their fulfillment." And when asked to subordinates - When will they start working?
  6. My address
    My address 17 July 2013 07: 22 New
    12
    DAM with the bulk of his boys and girls send on unpaid leave for three months. In case of non-worsening of the situation, expel the refund for the year. They are scored from a sandbox, if not from Liberasty.

    By the way, why not send DAME with his family to the Far East to improve the situation? You look and sense will appear, well, and wash away a smile from his face. Sorry, I am extremely indifferent to him for his achievements, incl. for the demonstrative, evil people awarding Gorbachev.
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 17 July 2013 16: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: My address
      By the way, why not send DAM with his family to the Far East to improve the situation?
      his hands are not "sharpened" under "work hard"
  7. sergey72
    sergey72 17 July 2013 07: 45 New
    +5
    The title of the article is incorrect .... It should sound like this: "Who raises the money in the Far East?"
  8. MuadDib
    MuadDib 17 July 2013 08: 00 New
    +6
    Dear site visitors. I live in Vladivostok. And here we are not so deserted. Yes, that's dear life. The property has a space price tag. Both rented apartments and those for sale. No joke: "living room" 18 sq. m from 15 to 18 thousand per month of rent, with a salary of 20 to 30 thousand rubles.
    And officials do not work well because there is no “daddy” nearby who would control. And they are all irresponsible. Remember the article about Belogorsk? It is clearly stated - self-control and responsibility to citizens.
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 17 July 2013 21: 01 New
      0
      Belgorod, probably.
  9. Strashila
    Strashila 17 July 2013 08: 06 New
    +6
    We will be realistic ... in today's situation it’s not real. The main criterion for the development of any region is the availability of transport infrastructure, but it is not. During the construction of Transib, which gave the main impetus to the development of Siberia and the Far East, a competent price policy for the transportation of goods was used. If I am not mistaken, the cost of transportation Moscow-Vladivostok was equal to the cost of Moscow - Astrakhan, therefore, the delivery of goods to anywhere in the empire has become available. Nowadays ... we don’t have roads ... there are directions ... the cost of fuel, fiction (for an oil-producing country) ... railway / road is in the hands of a private trader, he, private traders do not care about the state, greed comes first, which nullifies all the efforts of the state to develop the region ... neither East nor West. Yes, and thanks to their greed, China is quietly implementing a program to build an alternative to Transib through Asian states to Europe. Aviation ... it’s a luxury ... it’s possible to export caviar. Sea ... the same private owner, but they can’t arrange for Sakhalin ... remember Stalin, but they’re not trying to restore the construction of the tunnel. So what kind of development to wait , with such a policy ??? Yes, and what remains except from the resource-consuming industries, and neither of which is all ruined and engineering, timber chemistry, metallurgy.
  10. strange and pretty meaningless
    strange and pretty meaningless 17 July 2013 08: 08 New
    +6
    “I want to contact you, dear friends: will you work or not? Asked Putin, addressing the ministers. - What is this?
    laughing laughing laughing Another imperishable pearl of the Pope, in line with "... poking your nose?" In their corner, Daddy - and so that hands out of pockets wassat
    1. Igarr
      Igarr 17 July 2013 09: 20 New
      +9
      Damn, well, not the same year 37 .... Daddy said it himself.
      .
      Indeed, I watched this action through the box ... I especially looked at the faces of officials ...
      Honestly, I got the feeling that they barely restrained smiles, such repentant faces, yes, they say, are to blame, we will correct ourselves. Right now, we’ll roll up our sleeves ... and a couple more lyamas in our own pocket ..
      My childhood reminded me when my mother scolded me and my brother. We made the muzzles mourned, and deep down we giggled.
      .
      One to one - the undergrowth.
      And in the brain - algae.
      1. stroporez
        stroporez 17 July 2013 16: 06 New
        +2
        Quote: Igarr
        well, not the same year 37 ...
        -----it's a pity.........
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 17 July 2013 16: 14 New
          +6
          Quote: stroporez
          Quote: Igarr
          well, not 37 the same year ...----- but sorry .........

          Too much "comes down" for the fall.
          And the army is "driven like an adult."
          The impression that in September we will see armored vehicles on the streets in Moscow, and on TV - the most popular work of P.I. Tchaikovsky laughing
  11. valokordin
    valokordin 17 July 2013 09: 28 New
    +2
    Quote: Igarr
    .
    One to one - the undergrowth.
    And in the brain - algae.

    Our kind president, he chided those who did not fulfill his order; this is not 37 years old, not to Kolyma. Here are Kvachkov and Khabarov, the true patriots in jail, and these and their thieves' wives to emigrate to London.
  12. vlbelugin
    vlbelugin 17 July 2013 10: 00 New
    +4
    All words, words. The government needs to decide in practice, not in words. Is the Russian Far East needed? If necessary, the state should strongly support people who live or want to move to the Far East. This includes housing and jobs and benefits and transportation tariffs and much more. It is necessary to make it so that it would be prestigious to live and work in the Far East. That would be economically profitable for people to go to the Far East.
    Remember how under the kings free, privileges and other things were given to immigrants to Siberia and the Far East. What powerful projects were implemented during the Soviet era. For both the kings and Soviet power, the Far East was needed. And now only the words. But in reality a ministry was created, a fig cloud of bureaucrats. But there is no sense from this yet and it is not visible. The bulk of the money allocated for the development of the Far East is stolen starting in Moscow, and crumbs reach people.
  13. ale-x
    ale-x 17 July 2013 10: 55 New
    +4
    Everything rests on a market economy. Previously, under the distribution system, graduates of colleges, institutes, and technical schools went to distribute work throughout the union. Homeland built and developed industries everywhere. Now everything (or most) is built on the money of private investors who do not want to travel far from the capitals (difficulties with recruiting staff and a bunch of other excuses). Here is a circle and closed - the people are not going, because there is nowhere and no one to.
    My personal opinion. Sincerely.
  14. Flash_96
    Flash_96 17 July 2013 12: 40 New
    +4
    All this interest in the region, just for the sake of developing, together with mattresses, hydrocarbon deposits, there is no concern for ordinary locals, all the incentives to please private capital and poor officials waiting for greasy kickbacks! !!!!
  15. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 17 July 2013 12: 40 New
    +6
    Remember Stolypin .... with his program of resettlement of Russians in the central regions of Siberia, the Urals, etc. .... people were given free land for a long interest-free loan. Places in the Far East are wonderful ... pristine nature .... and everyone goes to Moscow ....
    Political will is not enough .... there is plenty of money .... people are afraid to give this money .... there will be no one to cut ..... damn ... it’s even a shame.
    1. Imigrantt
      Imigrantt 17 July 2013 13: 01 New
      +3
      Totally agree!
      1. ramsi
        ramsi 17 July 2013 14: 03 New
        +2
        you need to start a person with charisma (Putin, of course, in flight). And the first thing in this regard that should be taken care of is the transfer of the capital to the Urals
    2. Kolyma
      Kolyma 18 July 2013 03: 24 New
      +1
      Absolutely true, there is nothing special to come up with! There is simply no real interest on the part of the state authorities in the Far East developing, in particular, for the Magadan region I speak (I think, in the Chukotka and Kamchatka regions it is not better), the policy of the resource colony continues. As in their time, 15 years ago, they made people understand: "YOU are not profitable, we do not need you ..." and so I still see a confirmation of this in many ways. However, the gold regularly enters the treasury, the banks are simply exhausted, how else to squeeze out ... do you need an apartment? no question - just sign - only 15 years of hippotech "slavery", it can be less ... well, you know, I think :) You grew up here or came here to live, everything is one, the Russian state does not need you here, and Probably not needed anywhere ... therefore the development program of the Far East is a chatter, we continue to feed the people with shavings.

      A normal person, not an adventurer, caring about the well-being and future of his family, if he does not have sufficient financial potential (I estimate him 5-10 million rubles depending on the size and degree of the necessary medical support for the family) and / or connections in the Magadan region for permanent residence will not go. Yes, they go to work, to shift. Because a brighter future is not visible here at all. It’s generally not talked about the future of the region as it has not been accepted lately.
      1. Kolyma
        Kolyma 18 July 2013 03: 57 New
        +1
        the previous post is related to the statement of Grigorich 1962 :)
  16. Imigrantt
    Imigrantt 17 July 2013 13: 43 New
    +7
    He was born and raised in Khabarovsk and I know Far Eastern by hearsay. Traveled lengthwise and across! But left! There are a lot of talking rooms and window dressings; no shit is being done on the ground! Ishaev had to be removed for a long time, and the rest! These kids are corrupt to the root of the hair! Ishaev hog, greedy soul - got out of the nomenclature. GDP made a big mistake by putting Ishak to steer the economic development of the Far East region! He’s used to sawing from Yeltsin’s time, and he won’t cut it! But the one who does nothing is not mistaken! In my opinion, errors must be corrected! And to fix it more radically is not liberal, and I'm sure people will take it with a bang! Everyone is already tired, especially there (I have a mother in Khabarovsk and I am a frequent guest, I own the situation). We need a normal team of young people without a saw in their hands! Surviving for their land, wishing to live and work there! And there will be those who wish to go for permanent residence! But no one will go with a modern government program! Yes, and the outflow is now decent with the Far East! GDP needs Stolypin reform! And people will go, and those who leave will return, maybe not all - but most! For the Far Eastern nature with its wealth and diversity, with striped pussycat and fishing - nothing can replace !!! hi
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 17 July 2013 13: 58 New
      +4
      I wrote on the site about Ishaev. There is nowhere to put a test on it. Therefore, it is necessary not only to nod to Moscow about the collapse of the region, but also to the local kings. They are also to blame for the situation.
      1. Komsomolets
        Komsomolets 19 July 2013 10: 36 New
        0
        fzr1000 Do you really think that Ishaev is a local king himself? If so, then you are very naive. He unfastens the white stone in the right place, and everyone is happy.
  17. Takashi
    Takashi 17 July 2013 14: 18 New
    +4
    Simple calculation:

    Flight Khabarovsk-Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk = 8160 rubles (this is 40 minutes of flight)
    Khabarovsk - Moscow = 10000-18000 rubles (7 hours of flight)

    Sugar (Khabarovsk) = 30-31 rubles
    Sugar (Sakhalin) = 60 rubles

    Bread (Komsomolsk) = 24-32 (rubles) - ordinary roll
    Bread (Sakhalin) = 26 rubles (small), 35 rubles (normal)


    Continue to continue?
    And the salaries are not much higher than on the mainland, unless you are on a shift and you stick to the oil and gas pipe.

    Wretchedness, Remoteness, Separation from culture and the Motherland, Permanent temporary life (everyone always knows that sooner or later they will leave the Far East) - this is not a complete list of the mood of the population in the Far East.
    I got the feeling that everything is like on a business trip or in a settlement (just a little - and leaving)
  18. Semyon Albertovich
    Semyon Albertovich 17 July 2013 14: 59 New
    +1
    Everything is there for the development of the Russian Far East (resources, money ...), but the officials of this region do not care about state interests; After all, they personally live well at the expense of the authorities, and everything else is "tryn-grass" Can replace these overeating "fat cats" with young guys who are worried about the development of RUSSIA?
  19. Jrvin
    Jrvin 17 July 2013 15: 06 New
    +4
    I myself am from the Trans-Baikal Territory, who will go to live with us in a region where the light costs 3,9 rubles per kilowatt * hour ... light is more expensive than ches in neighboring China. Enormous reserves of everything and everything, but alas no one needs it, and if necessary, Moscow enterprises ...
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 17 July 2013 16: 41 New
      10
      Quote: Jrvin
      I myself am from the Trans-Baikal Territory, who will go to live with us in the region where the light costs 3,9r per kilowatt * hour

      And this is not the limit, although in the same Norway, this averaged kW / h is much cheaper ...
      And rightly they ask here why they forgot about other regions.
      The regions of the Far North are much closer, but the situation is the same. The people either get drunk with melancholy from despair, or "shake" to the "mainland" in search of "a place in the sun."
      The population of the inhabitants of the White Sea coast (not the North Pole, and not Yakutia!) Over the past 20 years has "lost" 80% of the "payroll", and continues to decline ...
      And only in the White Sea it is possible to catch the REAL SOMGA, without any antibiotics and other "infections".
      But who needs it? ... fool
  20. fzr1000
    fzr1000 17 July 2013 16: 07 New
    +1
    In the meantime ...

    Improvement of the embankments of the Moscow River will cost the city more than 100 billion rubles, said M. Khusnullin.
    The official noted that Muscovites "have forgotten how to walk", he sees the task of the capital's authorities in changing the Moscow mentality. Movement is health. The more a person moves, the more healthy he is. When we analyzed who and how many people walk to the metro, it turned out that if the accessibility is more than 5 minutes, people are already trying to get somewhere, "said M. Khusnullin.


    I would like to ask, is it really oh .... is it or is it specially done so that then again I can say that all Russia feeds Moscow?

    PS Khusnullin Nirazu is not a Muscovite, like Sobyanin, Putin and a bunch of people in power. So do not say that Muscovites are all ... it is. They themselves are all of them ..... well, in short, you understand.
  21. DZ_98_B
    DZ_98_B 17 July 2013 20: 17 New
    +4
    Who raises the FAR EAST AND SIBERIA? But really, who? Not so long ago, the head of South Korea announced ... We are extremely interested in the development of Siberia and the Far East !! What are we? WE ARE NOTHING AND NO !!! We sell China everything and everything !!! Koreans understand that China is a threat to their existence. And here ... In Krasnoyarsk, this is almost the center of RUSSIA. there is an area where the Russians leave. this area is occupied by the Chinese. How do you want to die with the wording destroyed RUSSIAN BAND FORMATION. In Chinese.
  22. Conepatus
    Conepatus 17 July 2013 20: 32 New
    +1
    It’s just necessary to create conditions for people to reach there. Although it is easier to build an oil derrick and more profitable for the authorities. Vangyu, nothing will be done, everything will remain as before. request
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 17 July 2013 21: 14 New
      +6
      Quote: Conepatus
      You just need to create conditions for people to reach there.

      I remember Arkhangelsk, April 1993. Unusually warm weather. The red-cheeked Plohish flew in, turned his head, and said: "It's as warm here in the north as in Moscow." And that's all. Since then, the regions of the Far North, Siberia and the Far East began to be developed on a rotational basis - the government's link to Canada - only there is no China with Japan and the Koreas.
  23. valokordin
    valokordin 17 July 2013 21: 40 New
    +2
    I read the comments, it became sad. Thieves need the Far East, people in the Far East do not need thieves and authorities.
  24. 2я19
    2я19 17 July 2013 22: 22 New
    +1
    four fifths of all presidential instructions formulated at the end of last year at the Presidium of the State Council on the development of the Far East and Transbaikalia were simply not fulfilled by the government. “I want to contact you, dear friends: will you work or not? Asked Putin, addressing the ministers. - What is this? We have already met in some regions and discussed how we work, what is the style. The vast majority of these assignments carried over to the fall. Well, let's look at what will be done in the fall ... " So I want to ask, Uncle, are you? Or just blissful?
  25. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 17 July 2013 23: 53 New
    +6
    I read the comments and so badly! I knew that everything was shitty there, but so! And the appeal of the Supreme to the ministers is like a voice crying in the desert! And this is not the first time! And the result? Is it really not clear that all this bureaucratic schoble does not care about the Far East together with Siberia! They love the Cote d'Azur, the Courchevels are different, they are all there and their interests are there, but here they can be said to work on a rotational basis! Yes, today is not the 37th year. But I would not want a repetition of the 41st and 91st year, and it could happen if you do NOT take ANYTHING against anyone and nothing afraid of the CASTA of officials who exist as a state in the state and are completely indifferent to the fate of Russia!
  26. Eric
    Eric 18 July 2013 00: 52 New
    +2
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    Too much "comes down" for the fall.
    And the army is "driven like an adult."
    The impression that in September we will see armored vehicles on the streets in Moscow, and on TV - the most popular work of P.I. Tchaikovsky laughing

    Good point! hi