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Volyn Massacre - the crime of OUN

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What is behind the phrase “ethnic cleansing with elements of genocide”? Judge for yourself.


Volyn Massacre - the crime of OUN

Hate policy. The victims of the massacre of Poles in Volyn in the summer of 1943 were most often unarmed peasants.


Before you start an argument about what the Volyn Massacre was like, and for what reason the Polish Seimas remembered it again, just look at these photos. On the corpses of slaughtered and executed women. Despite the fact that there were few cameras in 1943, pictures of those killed as a result of ethnic cleansing, which Bandera conducted in Volyn, survived enough. Ask yourself: would you kill your neighbor just because he speaks Polish? For the sake of Ukraine, would kill? Would a woman have her stomach ripped open? The baby, who neither in Polish nor in Ukrainian yet speaks, but, in your opinion, is probably already POLE, would you make a slap on the well-section of the well, so that the brain would sprinkle?

Let him ask himself the same question of Tyagnybok, Irina Fahrion, and each of those who call themselves Bandera’s followers today or simply yell: “Come Bandera, bring order!”. No need to theorize and replace reality with schemes. The wording “genocide” or “ethnic cleansing with elements of genocide” means nothing. You better imagine yourself to be one of those who surrounds the Polish village at dawn, chases people out onto the street, takes the best things out of the house, and then, without distinction of age and gender, again drives them into houses and sets fire to them. Would you do this? And if they did, then of their own free will or simply by carrying out an order? Tell me honestly, would you enjoy all this? And then, after many years, would you remember all this as a feat and tell your grandchildren with all the physiological details?


Before sitting down for this article, I asked myself: is it worth it to publish pictures that I myself do not give pleasure? And he replied that they should not be published! How else to show the horror of what lies behind the words "ethnic cleansing"? It is necessary to publish. Let them see. Even if those who today glorify Bandera, know everything and do not dissuade that they have not been warned. Hiding the past, even the worst, is criminal. Because then it has every chance to repeat again. Especially in a country like Ukraine, where you can not figure out who is Lyakh, and who is Moskal-begin to cut, for sure, you will have to break the belly. After all, every one of our “nationalist” just digs - under the skin of an exotic skeleton painted in the color of the national flag you will find that you will be amazed!

I advise you to read Viktor Polishchuk's book “Girka Pravda” at your leisure. Its author is Ukrainian, fatherly, and Polish, mother-born in Volyn, collected dozens of evidences of what is now united under the name Volyn Massacre.


Here are just a few of them: “We lived in the Polish village of Chaikiv, on the other hand. Sarni. In Chervnі abo lipnі 1943 roku from the side ukrainskih sil nad'ykhali before obіdom bander_vtsі on horses, vіd village Hіnocha. Budinki, pіdpalyuvali їх, but quiet, hto w utіkav, they were killed with saurians, bagnets. So vimorduvali a birthplace, and their budinka burned. They killed the birthplace of the Romanovskys, Mandrikh, Yakimovich, Grodovsky and Shchek ”.

Another testimony: “The village of Dubovytsia banderivtsy attacked 6 quarter 1943 p. about the year 11-th. The Old Man of Jozef Moskal was shown to be vinocity from the hati of tsynnі rechi, then uvіphnuli їх back at the hut and pіdpalili її. Oshkrobu shots Kolo Mlinivka. The Oshkrobi dwelt at home with her daughter and grandchildren, then threw a hand grenade. ”

And: “Mykolaivka village, Korets paraphilia, on Volinі. Napad banderіvtsіv Mav Miss 29.04.1943 p. in the forest Banderіvtsі, scho twisted s Kobilі, attacked the Polish Rodini Bruhlіvskih і Zagadlіv. Banderivs uvyshli to our hati nd died morduvati, kolyachi bagnets. They brought straw th burned. Menezh has struck with a bagnet and I am known, falling on a tie. If half a room has reached me, I have come to my senses, whispering visually. Banderivtsiv is no longer bulo. Miy Stogіn felt Spiridon, Ukrainians Spiridon, vіn zanіs memenia to іnshogo Ukraїntsia - Bezukhi, Kotrii kіnmi zavіz memenia to Kortsya to the hospital ".

As you can see, not everyone wanted to kill the Polish neighbors. There were other Ukrainians. So to speak, immune to the OUN ideology. But you can imagine the moral character of those who killed: “At the second, 14 lin лип 1943 p. at the village of Selets, povit Volodymyr-Volinsky, Ukrainian representatives beat in two of the older people - Józef of the Vіtovsky і і його zhinku Stefanіyu. Заh had been built up by a great house, a yak potіm p_dpalili ... On a half-day of that day, two senior people, Mihalovichіv і їхня 7-rychnu granddaughter older than her friends, Gronovich_ and I, I draw a letter, I draw a jersey granddaughter older than her friends At the throats of bravery, the fate of Іvan Shostachuk, which is up to the war in Poland’s Vіska business center and family life in Romanian Catholic. Yogi's younger brother, Vladislav, Orthodox, was the mother of Morelevsky (father and chotiri daughters) and the homeland of Michalkovich (father and two daughters) and, through the stench, stuttered. ”

So in fact most often happens: two brothers. One before the war "adapted" and during his service in the Polish army became a Catholic. To be on the side of the "pandean ideology". And then, when Poland fell, calmly slaughtered the Poles. The other remained Orthodox. And the Poles saved. Christianly. After all, the most terrible things are always shifters. Today he (she) is a communist (-ka). Tomorrow is already a nationalist or a nationalist. Tears party card. Burning out what worshiped yesterday. And most of all he wants everyone to forget what it was like. As if you can destroy all witnesses and kill the memory.

The number of victims of the Volyn Massacre is most often determined in 60 by thousands of people. So much was destroyed in the spring, summer, and autumn of the 1943 of the year. The number of Poles in Volyn did not exceed 15 percent. Most of them have lived in these places for centuries. Polish villages. Polish-Ukrainian villages. Mixed Ukrainian-Polish and Polish-Ukrainian families.

Nationality is most often defined by religion. Before getting married, the young decided: to go to the Orthodox Church or to the church. If the marriage was concluded in a church, the mixed Polish-Ukrainian family would become Ukrainian. If in the church - Polish. Both Catholics and Orthodox until the beginning of the Second World War lived, in general, peacefully among themselves. It is unlikely that he himself would have had the idea to settle scores with each other.

It is often written that the situation in Volyn was aggravated by the resettlement policy of the Second Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. In the interval between 1920 and 1939, Poland cut into Volyn plots the so-called "osadnik" - veterans of the wars for the revival of Poland 1918 — 1920. At the same time, they forget that tens of thousands of "osadnik" were deported from Volyn by the Soviet authorities in 1939 — 1941. The Bolsheviks took them to Siberia and Kazakhstan, and in this paradoxical way rescued from the Volyn massacre. The hands of Bandera suffered primarily local Poles, whose ancestors lived here in the XVIII and XIX centuries.

The misanthropic ideology that caused the Volyn massacre was imported from Galicia along with OUN emissaries (B). In the bloody ethnic cleansing, not even the entire OUN is to blame, but only its radical, Bandera wing - the fact that it split this organization on the eve of World War II.


The head of the Security Council of the OUN, the ideologist of the purges in Volyn Nikolai Lebed had the appearance of a typical mafia


Known and direct organizers of the Volyn Massacre. First of all, this is the head of the Security Service of the OUN (B) Nikolay Lebed. In the memoirs of the first commander of the UPA Taras Bulba-Borovets there is a description of how it all began. In the spring of 1943, the OUN (B) has not yet controlled the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, which was created by Bulba-Borovets. In the subordination of Bandera were only the so-called Military Departments OUN.

In the first days of March, a certain lieutenant Sonar brought Bulbe-Borovets from Nikolai Lebed a proposal to unite. The main conditions of the OUN (B) were: “Do not recognize the political situation of the UNR (the Uryadov of the Ukrainian National People's Republic on the emigration), and the order of the entire VIAVOI UPA political lithium of the United States. And also: “Clean up the whole of Povstan territory between the Polish population, like all other Ukrainian laws”.


Bulba-Borovets. Refused to conduct ethnic cleansing


When Bulba-Borovets refused these proposals, Bandera staged a raid on his headquarters. Ataman escaped with difficulty. His wife was murdered. Control over the UPA passed to the OUN (B), and its new commander became ardent polonofob Roman Shukhevych. From now on, the grouping of the UPA in Volyn has been headed by a man with a party pseudonym Klim Savur - a native of the town of Zbarazh in Ternopil region and a former student of Lviv University Dmitry Klyachkovsky. The direct implementation of the OUN Bandera plan for the mass extermination of the Polish population of Volyn lies on his conscience.

So that no one has any inclination to call these people heroes, I will allow one more quote from the book of Victor Polishchuk. He writes: “The 1943 Tie. P. My, on materі, tіtka Anastasіya Vіtkovska pіshla s Susіdkoyu ukrayankoykoy vodny before raztovshovanogo for three kіlometri vіd m. Dubna village Tarakanіv. They used to fry Polish honey, moreover, an illiterate woman, born in Lyublіnschini, didn’t zoom in on Ukrainians. Pslie stinks, schom pomіnyati desho on hlіb, more in tіtki - six children. Nikoli ni von ni dyadko Anton Vіtkovsky, people of ignorance are illiterate, don’t mix up to be-yakoy polits, alaj not mali about unfavorable holidays. І її, as well as the Sustainable Ukrainian language, drove into the banderіvtsі from the UPA and the Self-Defense Forces of the Dilated Viddiliv only for those who stinked romance in Polish. They drove it in their hands, they played it, and threw it into the roadside roads. ”


Dmitry Klyachkovsky led the slaughter


In my opinion, the Lord simply could not give victory to such an “army”, which the UPA became, after falling under the control of the OUN of Bandera. The destruction of unarmed children and women became the original sin of these formations. Turning everything they went into hell, they simply could not take possession, or rather, rape the whole of Ukraine. Indicative end of the Dmitry Klyachkovsky. Wonderful punitive operations specialist turned out to be a useless fighter. He was shot down by 12 February 1945 of the year during a battle in the forest near the Orzhev hamlet, senior sergeant of the Red Army Demidenko - a native of Donbass and also a Ukrainian. This happened in Rivne region - in the very places where countless St. Bartholomew nights took place two years ago. The organizer of the Volyn Massacre suffered a well-deserved punishment. From the Ukrainian hand.

DMITRY VEDENEEV, DOCTOR HISTORICAL SCIENCES: 40 RELATIVES OF THE EX-PRESIDENT OF POLAND ON THE WALFINA

Dmitry VedeneevKvasnevskim. By the way, the wife of the president of Kwasniewski, Iolanta, lost about forty relatives during the Volyn Massacre. Nonetheless, it was President Kwasniewski who showed goodwill on this sensitive issue. However, over the past ten years, especially during the 2005 — 2010 period, with its attempts to glorify the Ukrainian nationalist movement as the basis of the state ideology of Ukraine in Poland, the atmosphere around the Volyn tragedy noticeably radicalized.

The current resolution of the Polish Sejm "ethnic cleansing with elements of genocide" is a kind of compromise between the national-radical political forces of Poland, first of all, the Peasant Party and the more moderate wing, trying to soften the wording for good neighborly relations with Ukraine.

In addition, in Poland, since the 1990's, the so-called “cracked ruh” has actively declared itself. That is, ultrapatriotic organizations that are in favor of returning Poland to the lands of Western Ukraine, Belarus, and Lithuania, and some of them even put forward slogans to renew the boundaries of the 1772 model of the year on the Dnieper. With the support and partial funding of the state, a fund has been created to help the Poles in the East. Its representatives keep a register of property that the Poles lost after the 1945 year. In March of this year, the Polish Sejm even set up a working group on "oriental cress" issues. So persistently in Poland called the land of Western Ukraine and Western Belarus. Thus, the Sejm made a serious nod to the nationalist and chauvinistic organizations, which openly put forward territorial claims to Ukraine. But the Polish state itself as a member of NATO and the EU does not make such claims.


Gromnik (Poland). Monument to the victims of the Volyn massacre
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  1. Captain Vrungel
    Captain Vrungel 17 July 2013 07: 48
    22
    How tired of the topic of the OUN UPA. The whole world knows that these are bastards, war criminals, outside the law, and we have "heroes of this time in a semi-state." They defeated the KGB in fear that all the informers who had climbed into power were earning money, and the main ideologist of the Communist Party of Ukraine, Kravchuk, also dragged the brakes on the Banderaites on the sly.
    The power would be normal. these "eroi" would sit deep underground in the caches on Hoverla or Dovbush's cave. Now, against the background of 100% of the government's banditry, this infection is spreading as the only real force that has come out in defense of the people against the lawlessness of the government and its militants in police uniforms.
    The events in Vradiyevka, where the people clearly told the politicians, unwind your flags and get out of here, there is nothing to PR on our mountain, we do not trust politicians. But the "svobodovtsy", having found a niche, began to actively conduct actions and not without success. The regionals' project to divide Ukraine with Tyagnibok worked, but against the regionals, they escaped from under their cap.
    There was only one way out. Lost now. To ban two parties, "Svoboda", as traitors and accomplices of Nazi Germany in the destruction of the civilian population and the CPU as traitors and henchmen of big capital and bandits, irritants of "freedom". But this is possible only in the future life of Ukraine, if there is one. There is no reasonable hetman. The Cossacks scattered all over the world in search of a better life. The army is breathing in an incense. People in huts, don't chip tilka. Everyone dreams of a good master. The master will come and judge. Question. Maybe he will come, but from where?
    1. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. 17 July 2013 08: 48
      +5
      Its representatives keep a register of property that the Poles lost after 1945.

      The Germans also lost vast territories and property to Poland after 1945. Do they also "keep the register"?

      A very large part of Galicia remained in Poland. And the Poles also carried out "ethnic cleansing with elements of genocide" there. First, the Home Army slaughtered Ukrainians, Rusyns, Lemkos, Boyks, Hutsuls, etc. The rest were evicted in 1947 as part of Operation Vistula.

      A map of pre-war Galicia is here: mikle1.livejournal.com/2677455.html

      How to find out the maximum allowed image size for inclusion in a message?
      1. smile
        smile 17 July 2013 14: 23
        +5
        Nikolay S
        You are absolutely right.
        Of course I understand. why the author focuses on exposing the Ukrainian nationalist henchmen of the Nazis and their last-liberators. And I agree with him .... but do not forget. that the Poles acted in the same way ... the same axes, knives. bayonets. the same children, with their heads on the cart wheel ... only already Ukrainian .... if you take the massacre in 2MB (in fact, the Poles were engaged in similar matters since the 20s). then both disgusting parties. perhaps. achieved parity ... if during the first outbreak of national identity in 41, both sides destroyed an approximately equal number of civilians, then after Volyn Bandera cannibals took the lead ... but I can tell those who worry about Polish cannibals. that they more than won back after the liberation of their land from the Nazis .... even after the war they cleared the lands that left the NDP from the non-Polish population ... moreover, not only bandits from AK took part in this business, but also people's squads and the formation of the People’s Power ...
        I also want to remind you that this attitude towards civilians is not a national pastime for the Nazis, Bandera and the Baltic states ... the Poles were the first here ... remember, 80 thousand captured by the Poles in the most savage ways of the captured Red Army, taken during the Posh’s conquest war ... remember the tens of thousands of non-Poles they destroyed in the occupied territories, by the way, here the Poles killed more people than Bandera all. who could reach .... remember the nightmare that the Poles arranged for the German civilian population, who were deported from the donated by the Union of Prussia. Silesia (11-12 million) ... these people, without supplying food at all, were driven on foot to Germany by the Germans. those who were weaker than starving ... local squads came out of villages along the routes .... Germans were killed, raped and robbed ... up to half a million people, mostly old people, women and children, died in these death marches ... That's who can imagine that ours behaved like that?

        Now, after you look at all this, you understand that, for example, Kwasniewski is the same tynebok, only Polish and with the same difference that the Svoboda were not yet in power ... and the way Bandera’s behaved was the usual behavior for Polish nationalists, who always behaved this way, if the strength allowed ...
        1. Alex
          Alex 11 February 2014 00: 30
          +2
          smile, I somehow did not understand, are you trying to find rationalism in the actions of Bandera? The point is not that the Polish nationalists behaved no better than the scoundrels from the OUN-UPA (it’s only in the parades they have different forms, but how they take it off are all the same: gorillas, gorillas, forgive me animals). Is it possible to destroy people only because they have eyes of a different color or a nose of an inappropriate shape, can we build the future of the state (any one!) And the happiness of the people living in it? Is it possible to act on the principle of Hamurabi and consider that the murder you have committed is the last death and it is good? It’s somehow strange: does the massacre organized by the Poles justify the massacre organized by the Ukrainians? Both that, and another - crimes against humanity, for which there is no justification, and to look for which of the two bastards is worse is only to get dirty in this mud.
    2. neri73-r
      neri73-r 17 July 2013 11: 56
      +1
      May come and come, but where?


      Where from? From where he always came and saved, pulled an ass out of European shit, trained, fed and defended ...... from the East !!!
    3. sso-xnumx
      sso-xnumx 20 July 2013 20: 50
      0
      What kind of keel? The banner of Dilo - from Ameryky .........
  2. Greyfox
    Greyfox 17 July 2013 07: 52
    17
    The funny thing is that Pryshchenko and his orange pack of Poles were the main European "roof". It smacks of the same perversion as if Israel were protecting the former SS men ...
  3. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 17 July 2013 07: 53
    +6
    I read a lot of material about both OUN. Bulba organization is much prettier than Bender. Then the Bandera’s appropriated all the achievements of the Bulbov’s for themselves, and the atrocities seem to have been taken out of the picture and stuck out a sort of freedom fighter.
  4. revnagan
    revnagan 17 July 2013 12: 13
    +5
    Yes there were already to become on this topic, on the same site were. And there were a lot of photos. These atrocities were committed by dark, wild people, under the guidance of pseudointelligents who did not learn everything. And how much does a savage, leading a half-starved, hopeless existence, say, "your great-grandfathers , grandfathers, parents lived from hand to mouth in dugouts all their lives, because the Poles came to your land and ate your bread (bacon, potatoes), etc. Do you not want your children to live like this? Kill the robbers, and everything will be "What will the savage do? In addition, the article does not contain the whole truth, there is no evidence from the Ukrainian side. After all, the Polish Home Army did exactly the same atrocities with the Ukrainians. Where are these photos? The peoples were a toy in someone else's game, the Germans used and sponsored by the OUN-UPA, England-Home Army. The flame of long-standing enmity, artificially fanned, flared up with renewed vigor. And in the memory of Ukrainians the atrocities committed in Ukraine by the Poles in previous centuries under the pretext of "domestication" of Ukrainians are forever deposited. they have always been d and pigs and schismatics. Although this in no way justifies the Galician cannibals. It is impossible to do this even in revenge for an already committed exactly the same crime. Although I am now, at the computer so smart. But if I saw a Ukrainian village destroyed by the Poles exactly like this But, to be honest, I don’t know what I would do. I think so, it’s time for us and the Poles to get smarter, stop being considered offenses and dance on the bones (it’s only the Jews are good at promoting the Holocaust and making money on it), and start relations from scratch. And of course you must not forget, at least so that it does not happen again.
    1. Fetel
      Fetel 17 July 2013 16: 44
      0
      .Because the Polish Army of Craiova did exactly the same atrocities with the Ukrainians
      - but from now on in more detail. I do not idealize AK, I am not a fan of Poles who have oppressed Ukrainians for centuries, but as far as I know, the victims of Bandera were not AK fighters, but simple peasants, most often non-combatants - women, old people, children, less often combat-ready men.
      And the number of victims is incomparable.
      1. bagpipe
        bagpipe 17 July 2013 22: 14
        -2
        Believe me, it was the AK that mainly consisted of combatants, veterans of the Polish-Soviet war. By the way, the author, a well-known clown in Ukraine and a provocateur, who appears only because of arranging a srach, screwed up that At the hands of Bandera, first of all, local Poles suffered, whose ancestors lived here in the XNUMXth and XNUMXth centuries. it is not true and does not correspond to reality. I already noted in one comment, and here I will repeat myself - here is a link to the map of the Ludwipol district (now Sosnovoye Rivne region) http://www.mapywig.org/m/WIG100_300DPI/P45_S44_LUDWIPOL_1935_300dpi.jpg near Ludwipol for 5 hours there was a village zastawie (111 houses), above, after the Case - nowiny (60 houses) bielsk (41) and a dozen more villages on this map, inhabited by the name of the siege combatants. These villages were not on any map until 1917. they appeared after 1920 and disappeared after the events of 43. Now there is a field, a forest and people with metal detectors, by the finds of which one can definitely judge the contingent that inhabited these villages. Last year, only one familiar digger showed 2 Polish military insignia of the Polish - Soviet war: the Star of Przemysl and "For the war with the Bolsheviks", dozens of buttons and other ammunition of that war. I don’t know how in other districts of Volyn, but it was precisely in this that the Poles instilled fear in the Ukrainians, it was the Polish armed units that terrorized the district. they were opposed by local self-defense detachments, which were inferior to the Poles - veterans both in weapons and tactics. It was from these self-defense detachments, or rather, the people from these detachments, who defended the local population from the marauders of the encircled people in 41g, then from the Magyars and Germans - non-combatants who were in the garrisons, robbed the local population and organized round-ups on young people to be sent to Germany, then from the Poles and, ultimately, from the NKVD-MGB, and later formed the main cadres of the rebels, who often did not even know that acting as a self-defense detachment within a few villages they were "beasts" of the OUN-UPA. Among them, there was also some% of fighters - people who were mobilized into the Polish army and for whom the war began on 1.9.39, but there were only a few of them.
        To the topic. When the critical mass of Ukrainians with a gun / pitchfork / ax exceeded, the Poles with the convoys went to Kovel and Vladimir, and then to Poland, killing the Ukrainians along the way. One such convoy was destroyed and more than 30 Ukrainian villagers - Muschins and women who mowed grass in the meadow. Among the dead were the parents of my grandmother, born 23, now alive. According to her and eyewitness accounts, this was a real massacre, several people were killed by a firearm, and the rest by cold steel.
        Surely there were many casualties on the one hand and on the other - the people in Volyn suffered in the first half of the 20th century. - first there was a front in WWI for a long time, then for a long time there were "revolutionary" people, and in fact - bandits, then Germans, Poles and soviets walked 2 times, then from 1.9.1939. - general mobilization for the war against Germany, then 17.9.39, 41 years, etc. etc. Volhynia was shaking until Wed. 50g. What I mean is that it is extremely wrong to betray the Poles as victims, and the Ukrainians as mindless animals, hungry for blood "just like that". Those who are interested, who want to understand, understand what I mean. And those who, apart from the Marsist historians, have not heard anything, may not read my post.
        1. Yars
          Yars 18 July 2013 15: 51
          +1
          Do not drive Volynyanka! Nobody calls us mindless animals! OUN members are not Ukrainians, they are some kind of terrorists of that time, like those who today are fighting against Assad and the Syrians in Syria, and these and those are controlled and controlled from Western structures. Terrorism has no nationality! ! !
          1. bagpipe
            bagpipe 18 July 2013 20: 22
            0
            YaRS. Where you saw a race? you or misread or misunderstood.
        2. bagpipe
          bagpipe 1 August 2013 22: 51
          -1
          who - be it (except for the author of the article) can justify what they minus me?
          1. Alex
            Alex 15 February 2014 18: 45
            +2
            Quote: volynyaka
            who - be it (except for the author of the article) can justify what they minus me?
            I’ll venture to suggest, because you are a nationalist and champion of bandits. And for some reason they do not like bandits. And those who protect them, too.
        3. Alex
          Alex 15 February 2014 18: 41
          +2
          bagpipe, so many words, and for what? To justify the massacres? So do not strain, for the truth remains true - the OUN men never went to an open battle. Not with anyone: not with the Germans (to them they generally licked the anus), nor with the Poles, nor with the Reds (only at night and only on unarmed).

          I mean, to extradite Poles as victims, and Ukrainians as thoughtless animals
          A typical Natsik trick: put an equal sign between a UKRAINIAN and a NATIONALIST. I am Ukrainian, I did not consider myself an animal and do not consider it. You are a nationalist, and I also don’t consider you an animal, but only because I don’t want to insult God's creatures by placing such perverse sadism and cave xenophobia as you.

          Those who are interested, who want to understand - understand what I mean.
          Naturally, they understand. And what's so tricky: Nazism was not born yesterday, and sadistic thugs are also not a discovery in forensics.
      2. revnagan
        revnagan 17 July 2013 23: 21
        -1
        Quote: FeteL
        - but from now on in more detail.

        Paaajaluyusta ...
        http://www.e-reading-lib.com/chapter.php/1015435/122/Sever_-_Smert_shpionam._Voe
        nnaya_kontrrazvedka_SMERSh_v_gody_Velikoy_Otechestvennoy_voyny.html

        I hope you can copy and paste?
        1. revnagan
          revnagan 20 July 2013 13: 43
          -1
          Oh yes, mine is a strong argument.
    2. Alex
      Alex 15 February 2014 17: 46
      +2
      Quote: revnagan
      .Because the Polish Army of Craiova did exactly the same atrocities with the Ukrainians.
      That is, is everything right? And the OUNites are heroes who have risen for the people?

      Bravo, that’s exactly what our current neo-Nazis say!
  5. Klibanophoros
    Klibanophoros 17 July 2013 19: 10
    +1
    Belopolsha, in the pose of a victim, very skillfully and successfully operates with historical grievances to solve current political problems. Poland was not a harmless state, and we must think that the Westerners remembered well the Polonization of Volhynia and Galicia in the period 1920-1939. After manipulating the minds of the Ukrainians and opposing them to the Russians, whom the roguly have already refused of Slavic origin, Poland is pushing the time for the return of the Voskhodniye Kresei into its composition, and for this it needs a bloody foundation, about the same as Poland wanted to get in its time reparations from Russia, shaking bones from the Katyn graves. The situation is aggravated by the fact that the protesters make bellicose statements, with the complete weakness of their country.
  6. Sineys
    Sineys 17 July 2013 20: 06
    -3
    Quote: FeteL
    .Because the Polish Army of Craiova did exactly the same atrocities with the Ukrainians
    - but from now on in more detail. I do not idealize AK, I am not a fan of Poles who have oppressed Ukrainians for centuries, but as far as I know, the victims of Bandera were not AK fighters, but simple peasants, most often non-combatants - women, old people, children, less often combat-ready men.
    And the number of victims is incomparable.

    Look online, the first clashes occurred back in 1942, when both sides also massacred entire families, moreover, both Ukrainians and Poles. At the same time, the UPA was created only in 1943, and then there was a surge of aggression. According to the data of the Polish researchers themselves, about 32-34 thousand victims from the Poles were established (although they "round off" this figure to 50-60 thousand), Ukrainian historians have so far established about 24 thousand victims of Ukrainians, also mainly women, children and old people. In 1944, the massacre of Ukrainians by Poles began in the Kholmshchyna, Podlasie and Nadsyan regions. At the same time, the Poles call such actions repayable. Strange logic. In these regions, there were no UPA units, the population was not involved in the events in Volyn, but killed them. There is a photo of scum from the AK who burned down the village of Sagryn and killed all residents. Photo against the background of the people they killed. Doesn't it look like anything? There was simply an ethnic cleansing of the territory, which later went to present-day Poland. Read the appeal of the residents of Kholmshchyna dated 1944 http://avr.org.ua/index.php/viewDoc/9845/, and draw conclusions. It was a civil war. Both were nominally considered Polish citizens, and why does Poland now want an apology from today's Ukraine? Its citizens fought among themselves because of the discriminatory policy of pre-war Poland itself.
    1. Alex
      Alex 15 February 2014 18: 55
      +2
      Quote: Sineys
      UPA was created only in 1943 year
      Say this to your beloved UPA, they will cover you in the head. They are the history of the UPA with 1942 go.

      and then there was a surge of aggression
      It is good that you do not deny the fact of aggression - for banderlogs this is a very bold statement.

      Ukrainian historians
      What are these? Yavorivsky with his very broad views on morality and honesty?

      why now does Poland want an apology from present-day Ukraine?
      Yes, Poland, give her free rein, he will demand an apology from everyone. Perhaps the Martians, too, were guilty of something in front of them.

      Can you, so enlightened and clever, say how the murders of PEACEFUL CITIZENS can be a struggle for FREEDOM?
  7. bublic82009
    bublic82009 18 July 2013 00: 53
    +2
    however, Poland is pulling Ukraine into the EU by the ears, while the OUN members are not resisting.
    1. Cat
      Cat 18 July 2013 01: 08
      +5
      Quote: bublic82009
      however, Poland is pulling Ukraine into the EU by the ears, while the OUN members are not resisting.

      The European Union is a kind of pyramid, like MMM, where every new member must bring someone else to the system to earn money. Here clairvoyant and try.
      And the OUN members - what the OUN members ... they didn’t shine with quick wits, and even now they’re not so ...
  8. RUR
    RUR 25 July 2013 01: 24
    0
    Sergei s: "The Poles were the first here ... remember, 80 thousand prisoners killed by the Poles in the most savage ways"

    What methods do you mean? Have Russians infected typhoid, cholera and other infections? But it is known that bacteriological weapons were not yet
    (Poland has 100%) But it is known that in Soviet Russia the largest epidemics of infectious diseases flared up at that time (which was not observed in Poland)
    The army of Soviet Russia was significantly infected (google to help those who do not believe) even before coming to Poland. Antibiotics did not exist then
    too many Russians were captured (the Poles did not expect such a quantity. The Warsaw battle is included in the 100 largest battles of all time) Prisoners from Russia were held in camps built by the Germans (1 world war) for Russians. Such reasoning is a miserable custom-made response to Katyn.

    By the way, Russians after Katyn Poles were to heroically fight for the USSR
    AND THANKS HIM FOR RELEASE IN 1945 (ON SEPTEMBER 17, 1939 AND THE SECRET PROTOCOLS OF THE PACT There were no Molotov Ribbentrop. Although, what was condemned by the congress of deputies of Russia then?)
    1. Alex
      Alex 15 February 2014 18: 59
      +2
      Quote: RUR
      what then condemned the congress of deputies of Russia?
      Anything: there and to this day they operate according to the principle: "I myself have not read Pasternak, but they told me that this is bad."

      What methods do you mean?
      Yes, at least arrange a famine. And this is a real killing of hunger and disease, unlike the Bandera-orange ravings about the Holodomor.
  9. RUR
    RUR 25 July 2013 01: 24
    0
    Sergei s: "The Poles were the first here ... remember, 80 thousand prisoners killed by the Poles in the most savage ways"

    What methods do you mean? Have Russians infected typhoid, cholera and other infections? But it is known that bacteriological weapons were not yet
    (Poland has 100%) But it is known that in Soviet Russia the largest epidemics of infectious diseases flared up at that time (which was not observed in Poland)
    The army of Soviet Russia was significantly infected (google to help those who do not believe) even before coming to Poland. Antibiotics did not exist then
    too many Russians were captured (the Poles did not expect such a quantity. The Warsaw battle is included in the 100 largest battles of all time) Prisoners from Russia were held in camps built by the Germans (1 world war) for Russians. Such reasoning is a miserable custom-made response to Katyn.

    By the way, Russians after Katyn Poles were to heroically fight for the USSR
    AND THANKS HIM FOR RELEASE IN 1945 (ON SEPTEMBER 17, 1939 AND THE SECRET PROTOCOLS OF THE PACT There were no Molotov Ribbentrop. Although, what was condemned by the congress of deputies of Russia then?)